NYC DLers: Please Don't Vote for Eric Adams for Mayor

Racist Homophobic Cop

He has my vote!

What's the problem with Yang?

Who are YOU voting for Opie?

Don’t worry. I wasn’t going to.

Popular backpack, indeed.

I'm sick of Wall Street guys running for Mayor like it's a hobby to try--like Yang and McGuire

The media want Adam or Wiley. The media get what they want. Adams will probably win.

R5, Yang never worked in finance.

R7, "Wall Street" is a catch-all term for businessmen.

Stringer is the most qualified but he's a bore

I hope he’s not a black SUPREMACIST.

This is the only candidate who will be truly able to lead NYC.

R3 I'm voting Dianne Morales as my #1, Scott Stringer as my #2 and Maya Wiley as #3. To make sure Adams isn't the nominee, Yang is my #4. I don't have a fifth option.

Let me also remind you all that the idiots voting for Eric Adams are voting for a third term of de Blasio, but possibly even worse since Adams is more corrupt.

[Quote] De Blasio, a political operative by trade, also [bold] expressed a preference for Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, [/bold] questioned the veracity of Andrew Yang’s healthy lead in the polls and asked the union presidents if they would join forces in the race, the people said.

[Quote] “He said he liked Eric’s story,” said one person, referring to the biography Adams frequently shares on the campaign trail: The Black son of a single mother who grew up in poverty and was beaten by police officers as a teenager before becoming a cop himself. [bold] Adams and de Blasio share a political base in Central Brooklyn and the borough president is one of the few politicians who has avoided piling on the mayor during the low points of his tenure. [/bold]

So one more reason not to vote for him and choose Yang over Adams.

DeBlasio is probably the LAST white mayor of NYC.

Andrew Yang all the way!

Hey New Yorkers,

If you idiots had any common sense, you would see all the good things Democrats have done for NY in the past year and not vote Democrat at all. However, you don’t so you’ll just vote for another bad Democrat, and of course you’ll pick somebody based on identity politics.

I know Adams well -- he is a remarkable man who make a good mayor. He has his flaws like any other politician but he's quite good on important issues, he's very gay friendly (obviously), and above all, he hires extremely smart and talented people to work with him.

Yang, on the other hand, is basically a Trump-like narcissist who's only interested in his own career. He couldn't care less about issues other than those that give him headlines for his opinions on them.

Stringer, the third choice,, is actually a very decent fellow who would probably make the best mayor of them all. He has, however, all the charisma of a 9th grade wonk.

Eric Adams is a big too GHETTO for my taste.

My 5:

1) Kathryn Garcia . She's actually worked in city government, has a history of getting shit done, and is liberal without being woke. I really wish she was getting more attention.

2) Shaun Donovan. I like his ideas and he also seems progressive without being super woke. I also think his connections to federal government could be valuable now when the city needs so much help.

3) Scott Stringer. He knows city government better than probably any of the candidates. His lack of personality and super woke agenda are strikes against him for me, though.

4) Andrew Yang. I'm not sure he knows what the hell he's doing, but at least he'll be a cheerleader for New York and the city could certainly use some positive energy right now. And hopefully he'd hire good people around him.

5) Eric Adams. I'm not really a fan, but at least he knows the city and will be more immune to the super woke brigade who will call any else a racist when they don't get what they want.

Beyond that, I have no time for either Maya Wiley or Dianna Morales. Wiley seems like a hugely unpleasant person and when I've seen her interviewed she has no concrete ideas and just says everything is worth looking into or important to consider. Her work with DeBlasio is also a major strike against her for me. Dianne Morales was recently asked why she was qualified to be mayor and lead with the fact that she's an Afro-Latina woman from Brooklyn. Um, that's not a qualification to be mayor and I don't need identity politics running the city. While she has more ideas then Wiley, whenever she's asked how she'd fund them she says "with the money we'd get from defunding the police." Crime is up in the city, so making defunding the police a top priority right now is pretty fucking unappealing to me.

This is the type of shit Bill Cosby used to say before he was criminally convicted of rape. Just saying.

Quiz to see how your views align with the candidates:

Eric Adams is a lightweight who benefited from the economic boom in Brooklyn.

Typical that DLers would not like Adams given, you know, his, well, um, color....

R23: it’s not his color, it’s the aggressive toxic masculinity and homophobia endemic to black culture/men of Adams’s generation. Fuck that and Fuck Adams. And fuck his racism towards Asians and other non black minorities.

Maya Wiley is basically a communist. She is for having people who don't work live in luxury condos paid for by the working suckers. She wants NYC taxpayers to pay out reparations to all black folk. She has almost no white people working on her campaign. She is not the best choice, but vote who tickles your heart dears.

At this point any of them would be an upgrade.

Maya Wiley will be a continuation of DeBlasio's shitty policies. The city is doomed.

Yang is the only one who makes me feel hopeful and positive. The rest are just angry, entitled hacks. Well the high-profile ones. I don't know about less-known ones.

[Quote] Typical that DLers would not like Adams given, you know, his, well, um, color....

Or maybe because he's a corrupt clown who hangs out with homophobes like Tracy Morgan. How about that?

At least DeBlasio will be history and spend the rest of his life in hell for destroying a once great city.

R24 & r29, it's his color.........

He seems like trouble. If he found that much bad stuff in his kid’s room just over the course of a short video, what else could be in there??

Like I said, Democrats are destroying U.S. cities/states with their SJW/woke bullshit.

Andrew Yang is TRASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

The media want Adams or Wiley. Look at all the attack pieces on Yang. They want him out.

The media get what they want.

R33 spare us and just say the N word like your thinking.

Some guy asked Yang a bunch of questions as he was walking by him, seemingly friendly, and then his last question was "Do you choke women?" and Yang, already in a middle of a friendly smile and nodding along, continued doing so as he was passing the guy, in the way you do to a crazy person on the street, and the media turned it into "Yang Laughs at Misogynistic Joke". Fucking crazy shit, but it works.

Wiley's in the bag. The Times demands Wiley. And in NYC's Dem primary, only Dems can vote, so I fully expect the Times to get its way.

Oh lol just out in the last hour.

hey i like Adams just for calling out saggin'! if he wants to hate on us fags and other minorities just to get the black community straightened out, that's fine by me

As with all elections, people need to focus on not wasting their votes and picking the least objectionable candidate.

If I thought a 50 year old white guy had a chance right now, I'd probably vote for Shawn Donovan.

However, as that would not yield meaningful results, I'd want to make sure someone NOT objectionable actually gets elected, which means picking the least objectionable of the leading candidates - so Andrew Yang.

Maya Wiley is a non-starter.

People tossing lazy, pointless insults like "woke" and "SJW" are so sad.

Yang wants to buy a political office and it's looking like he'll get away with it, which is frightening. Running New York City post-COVID isn't a starter job.

R42, he's not that wealthy. Under $5 million.

I like Garcia, too.

Yang has zero experience. He's just a guy who used the media to get a lot of attention by running for president. There's absolutely no reason to vote for him unless it's a protest vote against the other candidates.

Adams may be tone-deaf at times and his positions often change but at least he knows the city well. He also hires really smart people and has an excellent staff.

The others are out of contention now. Poor Scott Stringer. He's been waiting all his life to be mayor. Not going to happen.

Yang has never voted in a mayoral election. He left Manhattan to spend the worst of the pandemic in his home in the Hudson Valley. Also, his whole give $1000 to every adult idea isn’t relevant in NYC. His only qualifications are he’s on tv a lot and that he’s pals with Joe and Kamala.

Yang is currently leading the polls but I remain skeptical. I know, you just know the next mayor is going to be black.

R35 They'll be perfectly happy with Ray McGuire.

Take whatever that loon Krystal Ball says and do the opposite! Always!

MSNBC hates Yang, of course.

Nice endorsement. Along with Martin Luther King III.

Huge endorsements for Maguire from Jay-Z and Diddy.

It’s racism by non-Black races against Black people that needs to be dealt with as harshly as possible because that’s the only kind there is.

The hits just keep on coming. I really do believe that Ray McGuire is going to box Eric Adams out in terms of key support in the Black community, making them not the decisive voting bloc this election cycle. Either Yang is going to win, as the polls predict, or Dianne Morales or Scott Stringer will pull off an upset victory.

Even the New York Compost acknowledges that Dianne Morales could pull off an upset, contrary to what some of you here believe.

No more White mayors for NYC.

The fact that Carlos Menchacha, who is considered a more left leaning lawmaker, is coming out for Yang indicates that he's going to get the progressive vote on the 3rd or 4th choice slot to stop Eric Adams if necessary.

Ryan Grim, a reporter for the Intercept, posted this snarky tweet attacking Black Lives Matter protestors in Brooklyn the other night, saying they aren't helping their "faction" in the mayoral race. People presumed he was talking about the left flank of the Democratic party. There's just one problem with that.

This is the opinion of the #2 polling candidate in the race, Eric Adams. So, if anything, this actually hurts him and not the supposed "left" Ryan thinks the protestors represent. The left punching will end up backfiring by taking out the most conservative candidate in the race LOL.

I like him.

Crime and public safety are polling as one of the most important issues to voters. Racial injustice is polling much lower. That's not good news for Maya Wiley or Dianne Morales who have built their entire campaigns around defunding the police and racial justice.

The Times has yet to hammer everyone hard. They want Wiley. They're just waiting for the right time to release the hit pieces.

Wiley is going to be mayor. The Times demands it.

R29 I was going to comment on how much he sounds like Tracy Morgan.

If it’s Yang, God help us.

Maya Wiley: Big Bird 2.0

He seems very moderate and stable.

Yeah, and the Times endorsed Quinn in 2013. And endorsed Warren and Klobuchar during the election. Their opinions are irrelevant.

R29 that’s enough, thank you!

R66 is correct. There was a time when Times endorsements were important, and they still can be for lesser elective offices that no one follows. But for the big ones, the Times no longer has any impact.

People are okay with wokeness as long as they are safe and their property is secure. Once their mom gets sucker-punched in broad daylight on the UWS, they care about police and bail reform.

Nobody has forgotten about what happened in this city last summer.

Oh come fucking on, Yang. WTF? Don't give this election to Adams. Our city can't afford it.

Businessmen should not be in government.

I like Kathryn Garcia too R19.

Eric Adams would be better than Yang. He has actual experience in city and state government. As a black former cop he’ll be tough for the woke crowd to deal with.

If Yang wins - that’s too bad and I’m scared how the rest of the country will vote in 22 and 24.

Seventy-five posts in and no appearance by the Veganism Is a Mental Disorder Troll?

She's slipping.

^ I'm sure she's not voting for Eric Adams then, so that's a relief at least.

Going on Fox News should be an immediate disqualifier for being the mayor, so of course this applies to Eric Adams.

The “empowered criminal” - that’s what Datalounge is so strongly for.

Candidates:

Andrew Yang, the former presidential candidate and current front-runner, has positioned himself as the city’s ultimate cheerleader in the race, and he has made accelerating the reopening of the city a central plank of his messaging. Scott M. Stringer, the city comptroller, describes a series of crises facing New York and promises to be a progressive mayor who will “manage the hell out of the city.”

Maya Wiley, a civil rights lawyer who is particularly focused on matters of racial justice, often urges a “reimagining” of a more equitable city following the pandemic. And Eric Adams, the Brooklyn borough president, suggests that public safety is a prerequisite for progress and speaks often of his experience as a Black former police captain who pushed for change within the system.

How come no one likes Kathryn Garcia? I don't live in NYC but she sounds a lot better than some of the alternatives.

I live in NYC and I've never even heard of her, R80. Only yesterday, I found out Scott Stringer was running. How many people are running? Jesus. I know at least five. I can't keep up.

Eric Adams is right. Disbanding the plainclothes unit was a mistake. It’s ok to go on Fox and tell the truth.

I went down the rabbit hole on these candidates after the odd accusation against Stringer (not sure I buy it, but are we allowed to question credibility anymore?):

The biggest problem is that none are close to perfect. That shouldn't be a problem (who is perfect?), but with Yang and McGuire beholden to corporate interests, and Adams being a worse deBlasio (and in the police pocket, to make him even worse), it's pretty imperative the Dem voters figure out who to get behind.

I think Stringer was who I was about to get behind (he's probably the most experienced and least likely to try and spend too much money on grand initiatives), but this takedown seems geared to get him out of the way. Morales and Garcia seem to have no visibility while Maya Wiley sucks up the spotlight (and the oxygen out of the room). Shaun Donovan seems interesting, but a bit bland (not that bland should be a problem--have we learned nothing from Trump?).

Worse, they all seem alike. Take one of those quizzes, and it'll rank the candidates for you, but your Top 6 may be within 5 points of each other. They have similar policies, and that's making it harder to prevent the cult of Yang from happening. (Ironically, Yang was 5th in my quiz results, but there is something so repellent about him--smells like the cult of personality/Trump all over again).

Is he leading yet?

Yang is a homophobe.

Adam’s lives near my mother and is a great man.

The OP is that racist obsessed freak who keeps getting red tagged

Adams is a vegan who cares about health and animals -- that's a kind of weird character trait for a politician (Corey Booker is similar). As a result, Adams actually has a kind of empathy and kindness that's rare in someone running for mayor. He wrote a very good book about health just recently -- again, unusual for a political, who generally just write about themselves and their remarkableness.

Is Kathryn Garcia growing in the polls at all?

My mother and Adams live on the same block. He’s wonderful. She likes him a lot and says he’s very kind and respectful. He has a nice car.

Yang is a homophobe. Only self hating gay Republicans would vote him.

R80: She’s from DeBlasio land.

Yang has been exposed as a homophobe and his response was “how can I be homophobic? I employ gay people”.

Similar to the I have black friends shit.

Why would you want this Yang dude now? Why not Eric Adams? Why do have people vote for the flashy empty suits—why not substance and someone who’s actually worked in government for years and years?

Go yang!

R92 because OP hates black people. Yet lives in NYC. And is a transplant.

[quote]People are okay with wokeness as long as they are safe and their property is secure. Once their mom gets sucker-punched in broad daylight on the UWS, they care about police and bail reform.

Lick that boot, boy.

Lick it.

Harder.

[Quote] Why not Eric Adams?

This whole thread has provided tons of examples on why [italic] not [/italic] to vote for Eric Adams? Here's just one more reason.

R96 still not seeing a reason to not vote for him.

Unfortunately people like to vote for celebrities, or whatever Yang is.

Yang is a homophobe

[Quote] The OP is that racist obsessed freak who keeps getting red tagged

LOL Of course you're Officer . No wonder all of your posts haven't been showing up for me in this thread. It would make sense that a homophobic cop would support his fellow homophobic cop.

[Quote] Adam’s lives near my mother and is a great man.

That's nice, but he's not a great man and just because you choose to ignore all the evidence to the contrary doesn't change that fact.

Also, more reasons not to vote for Adams.

Weird that OP etc. keeps trolling against Eric Adams, posting constant negative stuff about him, but nothing negative about the others. Yes Adams has his issues, but so do the others, and for the most past, worse than Adams'.

Seems like Yang's people have discovered the DL and are using it to promote their little homophobe.

^ This is a thread on Eric Adams and why he is awful, but see R70.

If you have the stench of the de Blasios. you have no chance in hell. Maya has no chance. Even Dems won't support her knowing she'll just be diB 2.0.

We don't want to pay in a city where the homeless and criminals have the run of the place.

R103 then leave

Adams is the next mayor. The media decide the election — not the mindless voters.

As long as it’s not Yang.

R104, I don't have to leave. I'm allowed to expect my city NOT to go to shit on behalf of the homeless and criminals.

R107 your city?

R108, are you really so fucking desperate to come for me that this is how you're going to do it? Yes, I'm clearly the first person in history to refer to the place I live as "my city" or "my neighborhood" or "my town or "my state."

God, you're weak. Won't play along.

R109 where did you grow up?

Bring back porn to Time Square!

Brooklyn, R110.

And not since I was a little kid in the 80s have I had homeless come to the car windows trying to get money. Since BdB, you cannot get off a god damned exit where there's a stop light and not have homeless come to the windows for money. At least in the 80s, they were squeegee guys and they'd clean your windows. These assholes just stand there waiting for you to give in. And during a pandemic no less.

Eric Adams is the candidate of choice for Tucker Carlson. Yet another reason not to vote for him.

r113 Disqualifying for Adams.

I like Eric Adams! I donated to Garcia, time I donate to Adams.

Adams as a black man isn't intimidated by the "woke" crowd. That's the only thing Carlson really likes about him.

At this rate, the people saying they like Eric Adams are coming out as nazis and will be put on ignore by me. No difference between the two.

I liked Eric Adams before Tucker Carlson. Don't lump me in with that guy.

Pretty thorough profile of him in the Times today. He’s clearly focusing on campaigning in Brooklyn and Queens.

Good for him. I wish we has normal Democrats here in Michigan.

we *had...

The endorsement from Carlson will work in his favor.

Re Fucker Carlson's support of Eric Adams -- here's Adams' tweet about it:

"I don’t want or need the support of Tucker Carlson, or anyone else who perpetuates racist, anti-immigrant propaganda."

Good for him. Suck on Carlson.

Whoops. Left out the "it" above. Please don't suck on Carlson.

R112: Yes, Bill DeBlasio PURPOSEFULLY put the homeless on the exit ramp to get YOU. You ridiculous freak. I will never understand the DeBlasio Derangement Syndrome from people on here. Last opinion poll had 50% of the city approving of the job he was doing. I guess online people just hate him for weird nebulous reasons.

[quote]How come no one likes Kathryn Garcia? I don't live in NYC but she sounds a lot better than some of the alternatives.

I didn't know much about her but she's actually pretty great. Take the quick posted above.

She's now my #2 choice.

Adams is a freak. He goes to the grand opening of an LGBT seniors housing project and slams it for not being inclusive (of whom?). Suggests it will provoke neighbors to violence.

Any gay person who votes for this loon is an idiot.

Kathryn Garcia.

[quote]At least in the 80s, they were squeegee guys and they'd clean your windows. These assholes just stand there waiting for you to give in. And during a pandemic no less.

Real New Yorkers don't drive.

Kathryn Garcia has been the subject of profiles in both the Times and the New Yorker recently. I really suggest people look into her as she is very very qualified despite her unfortunately low name recognition.

Don’t be scared by low name recognition! Donate to her campaign!

When is the primary? Isn't it next month? I wouldn't want to be peaking now.

NY primary - June 22nd

Maya Wiley is an opportunist who hates white people and is only where she is because of Mrs. DeBlasio and Al Sharpton. A vote for Maya is a vote to disband the NYPD and let the felons run the city.

R134 thanks. I will be voting for her now

Maya Wiley will give the power back to the people and not continue the sellout to corporations.

Maya Wiley is an airhead who will be a worse mayor the Bill Db.

Maya Wiley= DeBlasio 2

The NYT clearly wants Eric Adams to be the next mayor of NYC. Everyday they publish a NEGATIVE article about Yang and yesterday they published a GLOWING article about Eric Adams.

R138 is correct.

And honestly, who the fuck cares what the NY Times wants? They don't decide elections, as R66 correctly pointed out. I hope that Richard Spencer and Trump come out to endorse Adams next. It will sink him.

It its true that the NY Times has surprisingly little sway in NY politics any more. It's due to a combination of newspapers being increasingly irrelevant in our times, the perception that they're out of touch with the real world, and in the Times' case, the sort of (older) people who care about politics will probably never forgive the Times for cheerleading the Iraq ware. Remember the execrable Judith Miller? Finally, the Times has so many jokes working for its, from Maureen Down to Thomas Friedman, that no reasonable person could really care who they endorse when they can't even pick good people for their own staff.

That said, Adams is probably gong to win -- he has the best ground game and that still counts for a great deal in getting out the vote.

^War. Not ware.

Damn the lack of editing feature on this site.

R139 I would hardly call that NYT article about Eric Adams “glowing."

I am voting for Adams

[Quote] It may not help that Mr. Adams has had a history of embracing divisive figures, aligning himself with Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader, and the ex-boxer Mike Tyson after his 1992 rape conviction. Mr. Adams has also faced several ethics probes during his career, including one that questioned his role in allowing a politically connected company to gain a casino franchise at Aqueduct Racetrack.

[Quote] His switch to the Republican Party in the following years, while Rudolph W. Giuliani was mayor and the party controlled the State Senate, seemed opportunistic; he explained then that “if you take a look at some of the concepts of the Republican Party, you’ll see that many of them are our values.”

Glowing endorsement, really.

Sounds perfect for New York. Is anyone really qualified?

Don, Jr. could have a real shot against these bozos.

Don Junior couldn’t beat Curtis Sliwa.

The Times endorses Kathryn Garcia.

Hey NYC Taxpayers: Go Woke, Go Broke!

R149 The kiss of death for Garcia. Almost assured she won't get the nomination now.

Adams is pro-cop. I like that.

If Adams runs the city like he runs Brooklyn, we are in trouble. Crime is worsening in the nice neighborhoods like Park Slope and Williamsburg. I honestly care more about crime in the areas where taxpayers live more than the ghetto neighborhoods that don’t bring in any revenue.

R153 Adams doesn’t actually “run Brooklyn.” Borough presidents don’t really have that much power.

R154,

What is the role of the borough president?

Eric Adams still won't say what he will do to get the guns off the streets, he has no idea, in spite of his brief time in law enforcement. He seems more opportunist than leader.

Good overview of the borough president position

Thanks R157. That was informative and shows how much waste is in our government.

Eric Adams and Maya Wiley both feel that blaming whites for everything is the key to winning and election. Eric does not like white men and Maya doesn't seem to like anyone white. Sad.

Maya is EXTREMELY woke.

[quote] Let me also remind you all that the idiots voting for Eric Adams are voting for a third term of de Blasio

NYC deserves another term of deblasio

They do. They voted his stupid, fucking ass in TWICE. The city is full of people without an ounce of common sense. You all need to learn the hard way

I would not mind Kathryn Garcia as mayor.

I like her. I want to see her as mayor because mayor of NYC could lead to great things.

Like jail?

Oh kween. Stop. ^

R159 -- I am a white man who has worked for Eric Adams and I can tell you that he does not hate white men. He's one of the warmest and kindest guys I have ever met, and he's that way toward everyone. Just a truly sweet guy.

But would be a sucky mayor

Absolute shit choices. The lot of them.

Ms. Garcia is starting to look like someone I will vote for. She may be woke like some of the others, but she balances it out with being pragmatic. Running the Sanitation System of NYC is not a place where a lot of the woke hang out in their career, so she knows what hard work means and that most people should work, even if it is picking up trash before getting their govt money. It keeps them busy during the day and tired and night and out of trouble most of the time.

Garcia is woke?

How perfect Garcia would be for NYC, since she's used to dealing with garbage.

Garcia is liberal, but I wouldn't describe her as particularly woke. In the NYTimes interview she describes herself as a "practical progressive." Her answers back that up too. For example:

Q: But your first-term goal is to house 50 percent of that street homeless population. Why is it acceptable for 50 percent of the street homeless population to still be homeless at the end of your first term?

A: I believe that this is what is achievable in terms of looking and digging into the numbers of what I can get produced in the first term.

Garcia is hands-down the most qualified candidate of the bunch. Unfortunately she doesn't have celebrity status in NY politics.

I'm planning on putting her on my preferred list.

^ That's the benefit of ranked choice voting, by the way. You get to put your preferred candidate first and then put someone in down the line who is more likely to win. It allows people to vote for who they want without the fear of wasting your vote.

The first mayoral debate is tonight. I'm curious to see how it goes.

How did it go?

NY Times scores:

Eric Adams 6.2/10

Shaun Donovan 4.8/10

Kathryn Garcia 6.7/10

Raymond J. McGuire 6.0/10

Dianne Morales 6.0/10

Scott M. Stringer 6.2/10

Maya Wiley 7.3/10

Andrew Yang 6.3/10

Maya Wiley wins!!!

^ That's from this.

Here's a summary.

Maya Wiley was the most articulate speaker. Too bad her policies are looney and she'd be even worse than DeBlasio.

Eric Adams and Andy Yang were the best overall. Since Datalounge seems to hate Eric Adams, he's obviously the best candidate and my vote goes to him.

I wasn't impressed by Wiley. She's a good speaker and was articulate in making jabs at other candidates, but I don't think she made a good case for why she should be mayor. I actually thought Morales did a better job of articulating a progressive vision for the city, even if most of what she said isn't really achievable. Adams was better than I expected, particularly on defending the role of police, but he really needs to keep his ego in check. Maguire, Stringer, and Garcia were all fine, but didn't seem to say very much. Though of the three, Garcia had the most detailed plans (unsurprisingly). Yang was underwhelming as usual and for someone with a big idea during the presidential election, seems to have very few concrete ideas for the city. Donovan was just embarrassingly bad. He rambled on about his past experience with Obama at every turn, but didn't say a single thing about what he'd do as mayor. And he was woefully underprepared for the obvious questions about his dad's PAC donations.

Go Maya Rudolph!!!!!!!

Donovan was my choice but then he slipped up to say the average cost of a home in Brooklyn is 1 hundred grand.

That figure is what homes SHOULD cost but do not since around 1996. The slipup exposed him as a carpet bagger who isn't attuned to the city.

Scott Stringer was a guest on WNYC two weeks ago, he had to spend 20 minutes discussing the sexual harassment accusations. This is why people just resign when they are accused, it's a distraction.

Garcia also gets the Daily News endorsement

More reasons not to vote for Eric Adams. It seems that now that Adams is the frontrunner, the gloves are about to come off.

R185 I’ve said it before but I would just never trust a former police officer, period. The mentality, the corruption, the list goes on. That’s not how we make safety a priority (and obviously defund the police isn’t either)

Adams or Wiley, R186? You're getting a black mayor, so which one will it be?

R187 A lot of the posters here have insisted that the media would push for a Black mayor, but with the exception of the fascist NY Post, all the papers have supported Garcia. It's not a shoo in at all that we'll get one, no matter how much they try to coerce the public.

Yang is calling for Adams to be investigated for his campaign financial violations that are similar to de Blasio's. This will drive home the fact that Adams is just de Blasio 2.0.

I've said it before and now again: I've worked with Adams closely on several projects and he is not in the slightest bit homophobic. He's always been supportive of me and any other gays in his organization. He's a very kind man --a vegan who cares about animals as well as people -- and he would make a good mayor.

More reasons not to vote for Adams. Refusing to accept the results of an election is Trumpian behavior that must be condemned widely.

Maya Wiley is another Lori Lightfoot, RUN RUN RUN away from this crazy lady who is part of the DeBlasio corruption team.

Look what your current mayor is doing instead of dealing with the crime and health issues.

More Trump supporters support Eric Adams. Let's not, NYC.

Yang is 100% right here:

[Quote] Speaking to supporters, Yang said Mayor Bill de Blasio has been working behind the scenes to help Adams get elected. "Eric Adams is not going to say a word about Mayor de Blasio squandering our resources," Yang said. "Eric Adams is business as usual and New York City needs a new kind of leadership, and that's why I'm going to beat Eric Adams at the polls."

Eric Adams is thuggy and corrupt. He's just getting what he can.

I have a friend in business who does corporate liaison work with government agencies. When dealing with Eric Adams he openly asked how one can work around laws.

He says the quiet part out loud at least.

R195 exactly. Why are NYers insistent on making the same mistakes over and over

No one ever accused New Yorkers of being smart when it comes to political choices, R197. " Follies" casting - sure. Electing good representatives - no.

It's becoming more obvious that Eric Adams is who de Blasio is backing, even if it's only off the record. If the race comes down to Yang and Adams, DLers should vote for Yang, period.

Here's an idea: let's not vote for either of them.

Garcia deserves major consideration, but virtually any other candidate is better than Adams or Yang.

^ That's the UFT position and it's a stupid one. Is there a chance Garcia could come out on top? Sure. However, it's very unlikely that she's going to do so. The winner is going to have to pull together a diverse coalition of voters in order to stake out victory in our ranked choice system. Garcia's appeal is very limited. Without stronger Black and Latino support, she stands no chance of winning, no matter how competent she purports herself to be. Unless someone rallies at the last second, it's going to come down to those two, so voters should have one of them as their top 5 to fend off the other one. In my view, Yang is the better option, even if he isn't the ideal option. So, he's my #5 choice and he should be everyone else's here as well.

I know you all hate Maya Wiley, but this is a strong ad.

Maya is for Defunding the police and letting Undocumented Vote. Caveat emptor.

I thought Yang was ovah. DL said so.

R203 Is the ad wrong? No. It speaks for itself.

R203 - You mean Wiley wants to let ILLEGAL immigrants vote.

Donovan. Stringer, or Yang, pls.

R196 has a "friend" who knows that Adams works around laws.

That's just crap. I do work with Adams, and he's a thoroughly decent and good man. Hardly perfect, and sometimes you barely understand what he's trying to say, and he can often give the impression he's miles away in his head - but he is as honest, or more so, than any other politician I've ever worked with. (I will say that if you live on the Upper West Side, you have a chance to vote for the most honest politician in the country, as far as I can tell -- Gale Brewer).

Also, as a gay man, I've never worked with a politician for whom my gayness was completely irrelevant (ie: it wasn't just that it didn't matter, he never once tried to use it to his advantage politically).

maya is now playing the mom card.

I like Adams enough. We need some law and order in the Big Apple. It ain’t happening the way we are going at the moment.

That’s good to hear, r208. There’s something holding me back with Adams. I’ve been leaning towards Garcia, but Adams seems like the total package.

I also like Brewer. She shows up for everything, she’s a goddamn workhorse and I get the feeling that she really serves the people of this city, rather than her own self.

This is one of the best threads I've ever started because it has allowed me to find and put on block a whole list of reich wing trolls. Topics like this are like moths to a flame for trolls.

Yang hits out of the park here.

Eric Adams chickens out of the upcoming debate. Pussy ass bitch.

R214 because he’s a fucking corrupt POS. Haven’t we had enough of that?

Evidently not, according to the polls.

Adams is a Black former policeman and former Republican. If anyone can bridge the gap between the Black community and the cops in NYC it's him.

I'm voting on that alone.

I was originally supportive of Adams, but the more I read about and see of him, the less inclined I am to even include him in my top 5. After 4 years with the orange POS, all of the corruption allegations and his general condescending attitude toward his critics aren't something I want to deal with. I really hope it goes to Garcia.

Every time I sour on Adams, he pulls me back. This time, it’s because he slaps at Maya Wiley living in a neighborhood with private security patrol. Calls her a hypocrite.

Hot damn, that’s a good one. Because it is.

But generally, I think he has a hot temper and lacks impulse control.

The Yang bros, probably none of whom live in New York City, are really at it going against Adams.

Only makes me want to vote for Adams even more.

I only voted for him as my second choice but Yang does have a nice ass.

Meanwhile, which neighborhood does Eric Adams really live in? Who knows!

He doesn't even live in the state he wants to run as mayor. What the fuck is he even doing in this race? Drop the fuck out, Eric.

definitely not maya wiley.

she wants to defund the police 👮‍♀️

[quote]He doesn't even live in the state he wants to run as mayor.

Oh dear.

R223's grammar is a good indication that he's either a Russian bot of some sort, or a mentally challenged Yang-bro.

Eric Adams is pulling a reverse Bloomberg. He's a Republican but no R is getting elected Mayor in NYC after the Orange Afterbirth, so he's running in the Democratic primary. If he gets the nomination, I expect one or even more of the defeated candidates to run in November on different ballot lines. Remember, the November election is still First Past the Post, and you can run on multiple ballot lines due to electoral fusion. The Democratic primary is not the end of this. It's only the beginning.

Oh, and Andrew Yang sucks.

I honestly wish Hillary would run. And I'm not even a huge fan, but she'd be better than any of these fools running.

I hate everyone running

I have no problem with voting for Adams. But then I'm a former Republican who switched to the Democrats under Trump. I purposely vote in the primaries for the most conservative candidate. You guys need me to save your asses from you extremely active left wing.

Buttigieg in the last presidential primary if you must ask.

Eric Adams has pathetic, corrupt surrogates making excuses for him.

Laurie Cumbo is a corrupt city council person who represents Brooklyn despite living in Staten Island. She and the city are being sued for millions for using her power to arrest a critic of hers at Medgar Evans College and having her suspended, despite no violation of the university's rules. This is the type of person you should expect to be employed in an Eric Adams administration. This is why you should not rank him at all.

Eric Adams just recently had his surrogates violently attack protestors who showed up to a campaign rally to protest his desire to privatize public schools. Very dangerous man. Don't rank him on your ballot.

I wasn't sure who to vote for, but now I'll be sure to vote for Adams. The fact that the Datalounge De Belasio-loving-mob doesn't like him is all I need to know. Thanks, OP.

The more the Yang-bros pour on their Adams-hate, the more DLers are going to vote for Adams.

Hey bros, you're being way too obvious. Try a little subtlety,

R233 - Typical bright NY voter, which is why you regularly have abortions as political leaders.

I live in Chicago and I got my ballot by mail to vote in the NY election and the CA election too. I LOVE mail in voting.

He seems perfect for New York:

It was a curious start to the political career of Eric Adams, now Brooklyn’s borough president and one of the top contenders for mayor of New York City. Adams has led a more peripatetic political life than most: he has been, at times, a strident Farrakhan supporter and a registered Republican, a gadfly reviled by the establishment and a canny backroom operator. In the years since defending Farrakhan, Adams has forged strong relationships with Brooklyn’s Orthodox Jewish community.

Last month, Adams garnered several days of citywide news coverage for declaring certain New Yorkers should “go back” to Iowa and Ohio, implying out-of-towners were responsible for the city’s rapid gentrification. Last week, he raised eyebrows again when he promised he would forego his security detail if elected mayor, and carry his own gun.

His remarks drew criticism and introduced many New Yorkers beyond Brooklyn to the Adams approach to messaging, which has remained remarkably consistent despite his roving ideology.

“He took pleasure, then as he does now, in shocking people,” said Andrew Kirtzman, a political consultant and author who covered Adams as a journalist in the 1990’s.

Adams told the News that he believed Democrats had failed the black community and “there are a large number of closet black Republicans in the city, and if you take a close look at some of the concepts of the Republican Party, you’ll see that many of them are our values.”

In 1999, Adams was self-identifying as a “conservative” Republican. The allegiance to the GOP ended in the new millennium, when Adams, back in the Democratic fold, secured the support of party power brokers to run for an open State Senate seat in 2006. Facing nominal opposition, Adams easily won.

R236 is currently one of the morons looking for "bamboo."

I'm actually embarrassed for you if you legitimately believe in voter fraud. If you're just mocking them, good job.

R235 He's not a typical NY voter. He's a MAGAT. He's on my ignore troll list.

The rights against searches and seizure are protected by the 4th Amendment, not the 1st Amendment.

What a jackass!

That video r232 posted is an older Asian woman moving another woman’s sign and then the woman. It wasn’t very violent.

^ Thats not how the protestor would describe it.

Which candidate wants to keep NYC safe by supporting the NYPD?

Which candidate wants to keep the city’s economy solvent by eliminating welfare programs that attract deadbeats from all over the country while simultaneously taxing the working class out of the city?

Which candidate wants to end political corruption and waste?

If the Democratic Party offers a candidate like that, he’d get my vote.

R237- STOP pitching

^ Who the fuck would want to support the NYPD? They are awful.

R243 That's basically a Republican candidate. No one wants that here.

"That's basically a Republican candidate. No one wants that here."

Then the city should have a Republican mayor, since the Dems have done such a great job.

Adams is that Republican candidate and he needs to win. Wiley is second place today, after AOC 's endorsement.

Wiley would be the death of New York City.

R247 No more Republicans. They have done enough to ruin the country for one lifetime.

I hope this scandal finally sinks Adams for good.

Honestly, I'm mostly sick of seeing fat and obese NYPD. Why are there no enforced guidelines for these hippos?

Watch the debate at 7:00 tonight. I’ve got my popcorn ready.

Maya Wiley is a sneaky cunt. Sneakier than Adams and that’s saying something.

I’m voting Garcia first because she’s that white trash coworker who gets shit done.

Yang graduated from Phillips Exeter Academy, attended Brown University and Columbia Law School and is entitled to a full tuition refund. He's not intelligent or articulate.

The Post says to vote for Adams.

The NYPD may be lazy fat slobs, but the criminals are worse. Maybe we should have a mayor who will whip the PD in to shape. I’m tired of blatant law breaking in this city. I pay a couple hundred thousand in income taxes and around 30K in property taxes every year. I get very little in return.

I always said Rudy's greatest accomplishment was forcing the police to go from working 5% of their time on duty to 30%.

Does Yang think he's too good to first start by being on city councils?

I've had enough of these arrogant assholes who immediately punch above their weight. Go fucking run for Borough president, you tourist shit.

Anybody but Wylie but I do find Adams kind of charming.

Wiley!

Wiley is beautiful and glamorous. She doesn't have a good speaking voice. DeBlasio is an attention whoring loud mouth but he speaks well and at ease in public.

Maya Wiley is as glamorous and beautiful as a Women’s Studies professor can possibly be, with her Eileen Fisher wardrobe and abalone shell earrings.

It’s a stiff competition who makes my flesh crawl harder; her or Stringer. They’re creepy as fuck.

Adams and Yang seem like nicer people. Who knows how good they’d be as Mayor?

Is Kathryn Garcia a smoker?

Adams is at the debate. Wiley won't pledge to let police keep carrying guns!

As someone said on DL, she's the creepy Women's Studies professor who wants to be mayor.

Wiley's speech patterns are extremely annoying. She overemphasizes words for no reason and usually sounds like she's lecturing a 4 year old.

[quote]Maybe we should have a mayor who will whip the PD in to shape

If that were only possible. The PD, in many ways, has more power than the Mayor.

[quote]Adams is that Republican candidate and he needs to win. Wiley is second place today, after AOC 's endorsement

That Eric Adams totally lives in the city ... and that's totally not his son's apartment ... stunt soured me on him for good. If he's pulling that con now I can only imagine what he'll do when he has real power.

[Quote] The PD, in many ways, has more power than the Mayor.

The mayor is in on it.

R264, female politicians have to be very very careful about their voices. Voices are overlooked. And perhaps it’s sexist of me, but I don’t care. (I am a woman.)

Women in power have to strike the right balance. Any hint of scolding or patronizing, and they alienate people. I don’t think those people even realize what they’re reacting to. If I could give any advice to any female politician, I’d encourage them to work with a voice coach to modulate their voice.

Wiley also has a southern twang that I find especially grating. Bitch, you’re not a New Yorker.

And to be fair, Stringer’s voice makes my flesh crawl. I have a visceral reaction to him. He’s a creep.

Anyone but Wiley!

Eric Adams wants to continue remote learning with teachers teaching 300-400 students at a time. Pure insanity! Don't rank Adams.

Agree OP he’s a corrupted and racist homophobe. He’s done nothing impressive

Eric Adams tried to deflect from his bullshit idea and claim he meant 30-40 kids per teacher, rather than 300-400, but that's [italic] still [/italic] too many. Don't vote for Adams.

Also found an Adams boosting DLer on Twitter LOL.

Voted for Garcia #1, then Stringer (who's boring and non-telegenic), the Wiley, Donovan (anyone but Adams) and ok, Yang (again to override Adams).

Aside from her voice, Wiley pisses me off because she always talks about her two kids but never mentions their father. You know the guy she lives with and who pays the bills for the private security in Brooklyn. He doesn’t’ exist I guess because he’s rich, white and Jewish.

I wouldn't vote for this guy, but TBH, posts like this one make me want to run out and vote for him just to spite OP. It's like those "If you don't like and share this, you hate everyone with cancer" posts my great-grandmother posts on Facebook.

Interesting how much DL hates Adams, the moderate black with actual governing experience.

former Republican now Democrat come lately, besides being black, too

[quote]Interesting how much DL hates Adams, the moderate black with actual governing experience.

I'm usually the person posting this sort of thing on other threads but a lot of people, including black people, dislike Adams off of Datalounge. His policies on policing, his 300-400 kids in a classroom and his response (lie) to whether or not he lives in NYC put a lot of people off.

The real problem is that the media didn't decide to really investigate him until basically "the last minute" after they spent so much time ripping apart Yang.

If you want safety, vote Adams or Garcia or Yang.

do NOT VOTE Wiley or Morales, they want to DEFUND the police.

R279, agree.

Also, Manhattan District Attorney is crucial for public safety. Liz Crotty is the ONLY one who wants some law and order around this town. And she’s family.

actually Tali Fahredian Weinstein (however you spell it) is probably the smartest and the toughest on crime while also being fair.

R281 and clearly has the most money behind her. Her commercials are on every 5 seconds. I haven’t even seen anyone else’s.

Tali is smart as a whip, but she’s out of touch with real people. Her “I received death threats when I was pregnant” doesn’t sway me. Her husband is a bazillionaire and she’s a pampered princess.

Crotty grew up in Stuy town and gets it. I’ve been on her town halls and I like her policies. Admittedly I don’t know anything about Tali’s, even though I see her ads nonstop.

Tali is my #2, though.

My husband has been campaigning outside a Manhattan polling place (not for a mayoral candidate). He said, among the women he’s spoken with, they are overwhelmingly voting for Garcia. But that’s not a scientific poll or anything. We think it’s because they’re worried about public safety and she’s not all “DEFUND! EMPTY RIKERS!”

Eric Adams is faking living in the city. He wants to bring back stop and frisk which didn't even work! Crime kept falling after deblasio got rid of it. And he thinks kids should be in 400 person Zoom classes. He's bad at this. Eric Adams is don't rank for me.

I already voted for Adams and I'm happy I did it, bitches!

Adams seems dimwitted and not very bright; that, coupled with corruption accusations, eliminates him from my list.

I'm a Yangster.

It looks like Adams is going to win. And he deserves to win as well.

The ANGRY black man deserves to win?

Does de Blasio have to blatantly come out and say he's supporting Adams or is this enough for you all to get it? Don't rank Adams if you want to avoid a third term of de Blasio.

This will end in tears (for NYC).

Why would DeBlasio back Adams?

He wants to claim his place as the greatest of mayors and knows that Adams will be destroyed by scandal.

The thing is to be telling your friends that, regardless of which unwinnable candidate they rank first, they put Garcia second or third (and ahead of Adams and/or Yang). Garcia can easily win this election, but people need to understand this system is as much about who they don't rank/rank low as it is first choice.

R294, wait what?

Ranked choice is absolutely bullshit. I’m putting Garcia first and that’s it.

Garcia and Wiley are best. I can't imagine putting Adams top. He's a fool.

Ranked choice is about eliminating extremists from getting in; Trump, for example, would never have won the Republican primaries 5 years ago with ranked choice because so many voters would have left him off ballots, and some other centrist would have, by the last round, passed him.

I'm also putting Garcia first, but I'm trying to tell my friends insistent on voting for Stringer or Wiley that they should be ranking Garcia high behind them (cause that's how ranked choice works once your preferred candidate is eliminated).

Voter turnout is low so far. Bad news for Yang and good news for Wiley. Manhattan also has the highest amount of voters, which is good news for Garcia, though Brooklyn is catching up. Absentee and election day votes will tell a more complete picture, but I have a feeling Adams will lose once all the votes are ranked.

Eric Adams is so salty over that Matt Skidmore account on Twitter doing damage to his campaign, that he's filing a pathetic campaign violation complaint against Yang for it. Desperate loser.

[quote]Eric Adams is faking living in the city. He wants to bring back stop and frisk which didn't even work! Crime kept falling after deblasio got rid of it

Your logic is spurious. Stop and Frisk did in fact work as crime wen down a ton. The fact that it kept going down after DeBlasio stopped it doesn't mean it didn't actually work. In fact, it coudl mean that it worked so well that that it had a pervasive impact long after it was initially being done.

And while everyone loves to say how it was "racist," the facts are that poverty/crime is associated more with Black and Latino neighobrhoods so that is the reason more black and latino people were stopped, because they lived in high crime/poorer areas.

R298- You say Adams will lose. But who will win?

Adams has the same shady connections to NYC real estate as Trump did. Him being black doesn't make him a saint. I mean he's making the same appeals to 'law and order' that republicans do. With Yang at least NYC gets a bit of a fresh start.

Adams will pull big in Brooklyn. Older Blacks and the Democratic machine there will work for him. I got an old Black lady (she had the voice) phoning me the other for Adams. I told I already voted for him. Those numbers look pretty good for Adams.

I'm mixed race, Native and white but am an eldergay and vote like an old Black person on the whole. Did support Buttigieg as gay but was very happy Joe got the nod.

[quote] The fact that it kept going down after DeBlasio stopped it doesn't mean it didn't actually work.

Well, they found some guns and drugs. Sure. It could be you weren't listening to WNYC as much as I was. NYPD was doing hundreds of thousands of totally random stops. There was crazy number crunching at the height of this suggesting EVERY black man in the city between 20-40 in a 2 year period was stopped randomly an average of 1.33 times by the police. That's not community relations, ok?

I might not have that stat exactly right here's one "Stop-and-frisk peaked in 2011, when NYPD officers made nearly 700,000 stops."

Yeah and it worked. Crime went down.

Whomever you choose, you'll hate that person within a couple of months, and we'll be subjected to numerous DL threads about what's wrong with that person.

R307 All the candidates suck. It's just that Eric Adams sucks the most.

I hope it's not Maya.

Eric is so stupid, he wants 1 teacher to teach 300 to 400 students! And then he claimed he said, "30-40". But he told another news outlet 300-400. He tells bold face lies.

He's gonna be useless like dinkins

Big jump in early voting today, the most so far since it started. 21,000 people in a day. Brooklyn has now surpassed Manhattan in votes, which is alarming. The other boroughs have abysmal turnout. Please consider voting early if you haven't already. Not only will it make it more likely that the city will keep it, but it will help to bump out Adams who has a strong ground game in turning out the vote.

Someone pointed out some good news at least. Manhattan's big turnout per capita may be a big boost for Garcia when the rankings are done, even if Eric Adams leads in the initial results.

NYT says Blackx are torn as to whether to vote Adams or Wiley when 40+% are voting Adams and 11% for Wiley. Four times as much, hardly torn. 70 % Black New Yorkers against defunding the police. The Times is a shit rag.

I just convinced a friend of mine to vote Adams cause "that's the one Black voters are supporting."

Suck it, bitches!

Useless like Dinkins. Not useless like Deblasio. Interesting comparison.

R314 De Blasio got his start in Dinkins' administration. Dinkins is the reason we have de Blasio in the first place. The uselessness permeated from one failed mayor to the next.

Dinkins should have been called STINKINS

We need someone who cares more about New York City than his own political gain. Of course defunding the police, taxing businesses out of the city, giving homeless free housing in tourist areas are all terrible for the city, but that’s what sells.

Defunding the police does not sell in NYC.

Are you referring to light-skinned blackx or dark-skinned blackx, R313?

De Blasio goes out publicly to bat for Eric Adams, albeit subtley.

Vote for the deBlasio stooge!

It's been reported Mayor Bill is supporting Eric which is reason enough not to vote for him,

Adams will bankrupt NYC.

Garcia. Period.

I wonder if de Blasio's supposed backhanded endorsement is meant to sink Adams.

R325, that endorsement puzzles me, too. Makes no sense.

He's either trying to undermine Adams or perhaps more likely he's just an ass clown who makes no sense. I tend actually toward the second as he thought he could be president. Fucking ass clown de Blasio.

Garcia beats Adams in this poll when the rankings are done. This is the best we can hope for at this point.

2 of the 3 recent polls show Garcia coming out on top. Hopefully this is enough to stop Adams.

I voted for Stringer, Wiley and Garcia. I should have put Yang after, just in case. Anyone but Adams, who is really a repub.

Tell your friends to rank Garcia high (even if she's not their first choice). That's how we'll prevent Adams (or Yang) from happening (and the bonus: we may get a good mayor out of the deal).

R331- I'll cross my fingers that Garcia wins.

García needs a more polished look, the orange hair is distracting.

Really damning article on Eric Adams.

[quote] Yeah and it worked. Crime went down.

And it kept going down even when they got rid of it altogether. Kinda my point. Turning NYC into a police state wasn't the best approach IMHO.

R333, the nameplate is trashy, too.

She was in my neighborhood recently and a woman friend said she needed her hair done, and a good pair of Spanx. I think the nameplate is godawful, but it might appeal to certain demographics, and might be calculated.

More stories on Adams' corruption. Hopefully this is enough to persuade the on the fence voters not to rank him on their ballots.

Even more stories on Adams' corruption are coming out.

The left wing media is throwing everything at Adams. They want Miley to win. These are minor things or will be perceived as such.

I'm a lefty and t am voting for Adams -- he's the only candidate who seems to understand the city, both the good and the bad, and the only one with the kind of urban governance experience we need. Not wild about everything he's done, but then, the others seem worse (except Stringer, who seems to be genuinely a good guy but doesn't have the fortitude to handle the job -- and of course, he's recently been accused of sexual misconduct).

Oh, please. Adams is a sleazy party hack.

R341-He comes across as a bit THUG and GHETTO to me.

R342 is posting from the Women's Republican Club in midtown.

And is aroused by Adams

R342, same. He sounds like a dummy, like Tracy Morgan’s character on “30 Rock”. Dumb.

LOL This endorsement for Eric Adams has big loser energy.

Adams seems like the type of person who should be mayor of a CRAPPY city like Detroit or Baltimore.

No, he'll be mayor of a crappy hellhole called New York City.

R347- Are you saying NYC already is a hellhole or that he'll make it a hellhole

Adams got rid of those terrific free concerts Marty Markowitz had for years near Coney Island. Adams was instrumental in building in indoor venue, but the concerts aren't free anymore, as promised.

I even put down Donovan on my 4th choice to keep out Adams and put Yang as 5th (not that I want Yang). I'm hoping Garcia wins.

I'm praying this serves as the knockout blow that takes down Eric Adams once and for all.

"Are you saying NYC already is a hellhole or that he'll make it a hellhole"

Yes.

Love him. He’s a real NYer. Yang isnt.

Adams winning would be kind of fun. He’s quite the character. I’ll go with anyone but Wiley. Imagine 4 years of that voice and big bird vibe.

Garcia and Yang are smart to team up.

They need to. Adams was beating them for most of the time. Yang is terrible.

Imagine running away from the city you’re running to lead when things got tough.

No candidate is perfect. Adams is by far the most charismatic and might be what this dying city needs. Yang seems socially awkward and I don’t trust him.

Yang has been outed as homophobic by people who worked for him

[quote]Yang has been outed as homophobic by people who worked for him

He comes off as a try hard, desperate to fit in.

And then ran away when things got tough. No thanks.

He literally never stepped foot in the city throughout the pandemic until recently

R355- Adam's being CORRUPT makes him charismatic ?

Eric Adams sounds like Tracy Morgan.

Yang is corrupt v

Agree with Op and please DO NOT VOTE FOR COREY JOHNSON to be comptroller -- he has no education... don't put this irresponsible moron in charge of the $$$

You are OP

He has an education

I'm not OP... and no he doesn't

He does.

Adams is seething over the fact that Yang is teaming up with Garcia to campaign together today to take him down. He goes full out racist because he fears the tag team will work.

Yang isn’t a person of color?

Fingers crossed that it doesn't happen, but if he wins, Adams would be the first mayor to be taken from Gracie Mansion in handcuffs.

Baby dolls and bullets. That video’s hilarious, Op!

Yang is not a person of color. Only black people are "persons of color." It's the height of arrogance.

LOL This is rich coming from a Sharpton.

Sickening and Trump-like^^.

Corey Johnson spent less than one month in college before dropping out. That's several weeks. He is uneducated!

This is as close to a Trump endorsement as we're gonna get. Ghouliani endorses Adams. Don't rank him if you haven't voted yet.

Good lord. ^

LOL Adams deflects from the Ghouliani endorsement by saying he doesn't want it and that he's being endorsed in order to hurt his campaign. It should make people wonder why all these people who he doesn't want endorsing his campaign have been endorsing his campaign enthusiastically. It can't be that Tucker Carlson and Fox News and the Post are all backing him to hurt his campaign. It's because they like and support his message. Don't rank him.

It is hypocritical of him to accept the Post and maybe Carlson but not Giuliani. He should have just said nothing.

I think a seasoned politician, with legitimate connections to businesses and other politicians, is what the city needs right now, wether mildly corrupt or not. He’ll get things done.

So a man who has corrupt ties to business and other politicians is acceptable to be mayor, because he can run his corruption game and " get things done"? Would you accept that if he were a Republican ( which he used to be)?

[quote]So a man who has corrupt ties to business and other politicians is acceptable to be mayor,

Not really moving on from Trump, is it.

It’s the season of the Trump.

It used to be called good graft

I’ve known of Adams since he co-founded 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement back in the 90s and casually followed him as he rose in the ranks both in the NYPD and in the political arena, forming contacts and connections along the way.

NYC has a broad and vast constituency and we need an experienced hand charting its course.

Not Kathryn Garcia, R383?

A hand experienced in corruption. That way he won't have to have a training period. He already knows how to be a crook.

Bitch, it's the circus.

Ladies and gentlemen, the race card. Expect it being played frequently if he is elected.

More Trump. New York loves Trump, yes?

Is he the Black Trump? I voted for him bit am not happy with him saying Yang and Garcia are engaged in voter suppression. I ranked those two tho.

You voted for the black Trump. It’s the season of the Trump.

I didn't know at the time he was the Black Trump. Rudy had not endorsed him yet.

[quote] am voting for Adams -- he's the only candidate who seems to understand the city

Is that why he thinks kids should be taught in 400 person zoom classes? Or any of the other absurdities immediately above?

R366, that’s super pathetic of Adams.

Thanks R376 for helping me make up my mind. I’d happily take 10 more years of Giuliani than 10 years of that moron De Blasio.

Giuliani today or Giuliani 20-25 years ago?

Billionaires want Adams. From the Times:

Steven A. Cohen, the hedge fund billionaire who owns the Mets, donated $500,000 to Mr. Yang’s super PAC and $500,000 to Mr. Adams’s in mid-May, when the two candidates were leading the polls. But as Mr. Yang’s support appeared to wane and Mr. Adams’s grew, Mr. Cohen cut off Mr. Yang and donated another $1 million to Mr. Adams.

A similar trajectory characterizes the giving patterns of Daniel S. Loeb, another hedge fund billionaire and an outspoken supporter of charter schools and former chairman of Success Academy Charter Schools. He donated $500,000 to Mr. Adams’s super PAC and $500,000 to Mr. Yang’s super PAC in mid-May. Three weeks later, as Mr. Adams was cementing his front-runner status, Mr. Loeb gave Mr. Adams’s super PAC another $500,000.

The billionaires are controlling the narrative.

Giuliani today is crazy and criminal. He also didn't do anything special on 9/11. There, I said it.

R394 Well, with Eric Adams, you'll be getting both, which is why he deserves to lose. They are both awful.

Adams turned down Guiliani's endorsement in a very public way. It was actually pretty cool. Apparently Moody Rudy had a shit fit when he found out.

A CORRUPT SLEAZEBALL like Adams would be a perfect mayor for a SHITTY city like Detroit or Camden New Jersey.

[quote]Adams turned down Guiliani's endorsement in a very public way.

But he’s fine with the Post, Tucker Carlson, Fox News?

Anyone but Wiley. If she wins the primary, I’ll vote for Sliwa. (Incidentally, his campaign just ran a float - or some kind of vehicle - up Third Avenue with a bunch of loudspeakers!)

I ranked Maguire and Garcia for 1 and 2 because they know how to make deals. Maguire is smart and serious.

I ranked Garcia, Stringer, Donovan, Yang, Maguire. I don't even want Yang or Maguire but I'm hoping to block Adams who is totally corrupt and Wiley who I just find insufferable.

From HuffPo. It looks like a perfect fit for NYC:

Adams has leveraged long-standing relationships with politicians, business people, clergy and union leaders to a career in public office that has been defined by sometimes-outlandish antics, loose ethics, and a savvy nose for the direction political winds are blowing.

“The way he talks, the way he debates ― he is so old-school New York politics,” said Olivia Lapeyrolerie, a Democratic media consultant who used to work for de Blasio.

Another word to describe Adams might be “transactional”: He appears to trade favors for support. As Yang is fond of noting, Adams has been the subject of federal, state and local investigations for alleged violations of campaign finance or ethics laws.

None of the probes has resulted in anything more than a rebuke of Adams’ judgment, though it is clear that he has used his campaign account ― and a nonprofit not subject to contribution limits ― to solicit support from real-estate moguls and other well-connected individuals whose interests he went on to boost while in office.

At the same time, Adams has a unique personality. Faced with a Type 2 Diabetes diagnosis in 2016 that threatened his eyesight, Adams became a vegan and an exercise nut who lost 30 pounds and eliminated his Diabetes symptoms. He meditates every day and writes in a journal; he credits the latter habit for his tendency to refer to himself in the third person.

Although Adams was an outspoken member of a group of Black cops calling for reform within the NYPD, he was also a registered Republican in the late 1990s and suggested that the party had something to offer Black Americans.

[QUOTE] At the same time, Adams has a unique personality. Faced with a Type 2 Diabetes diagnosis in 2016 that threatened his eyesight, Adams became a vegan and an exercise nut who lost 30 pounds and eliminated his Diabetes symptoms.

That explains the great body.

I'm voting Adams, Stringer, Wiley, Garcia, Maguire.... I can't deal with Yang.

No Wiley. Nasty creature of privilege who has mooched off of foundations/taxpayers etc for her overpaid livelihood ( yes after a few years of real work as a prosecutor she left for cushy paper jobs).

How dare she tell NYers to defund the police while her multimillionaire husband pays for their private security. Fuck her and Harlan and their millions.

Eric continues to bloviate all over television about Garcia and "Ann You" Yang teaming up together, calling it racist.

This is focusing New York. Great job!

Pull the race card, Eric. Yeah, do it. Anyone who doesn't vote for Adams is a racist. New Yorkers are doomed.

I still have hope Kathryn Garcia.

He said Blacks and Hispanics hate the racist Garcia !

She's white, so, of course, she's racist.

Well, we live in that era, R414.

Eric Adams is already pushing his own version of the Big Lie. All of the trolls here who voted for him should be ashamed of themselves. If you haven't voted yet, please vote tomorrow and don't rank this Trump clown clone.

Here's the video.

He's the man New York deserves.

A banana republic style election.

In our NYC banana republic styled elections, the cops campaign for the cop in the race.

A cop doing what cops do best: disregarding the rules that stand in the way of getting what they want.

With Wiley polling second and Adams first I'm back to being happy with voting for Adams.

Literally anyone but Wiley, even a corrupt machine politician.

Anyone but Wiley or Yang.

R423- or ADAMS

Soon that will be Mayor Adams, R424.

I'd rather have STINKINS I mean Dinkins as mayor as LOUSEY as he was, at least he was a class act, unlike the GEHTOO ish Adams.

Our city is fucking doomed if Garcia doesn't pull off an upset when the rankings are done.

I ranked Garcia first, but Adams second. There’s nothing wrong with having a cop in charge who will clean up the crime in this city.

Why do you think Adams won? I thought for sure it would be Yang.

Adams hasn’t won yet. Not with this ranked vote craziness.Yang came across to me as unprepared and clownish.

He's leading in the polls by almost 10 points. I mean yes, there are still over 100,000 absentee ballots to be counted, but that's a pretty sizable lead to overcome, not to mention that most of Maya Wiley's voters put Adams as their second choice. We won't know for weeks, but I'm feeling pretty shitty at the moment. Hopefully, someone decides to run third party and kick both Adams and Sleazewa's asses in the fall.

I can’t take Yang seriously.

Yang has conceded.

It just occurred to me that a city as outsized and crazy as New York can handle, and often does well, under outsized crazy politicians. Adams may be what's called for. I'm ok with my vote for him today. Wiley would be a disaster and if she gets in with ranked voting I sense 4 years of a weakened mayor due to perceived illegitimate election procedures. I could see Adams also getting the Conservative and Independence party lines and running in the general. (A weird thing I'm NY State, and yes there is an "Independence" Party which is basically the state branch of the national Reform Party. It had a large membership because morons enroll in it thinking they are registering as independents. The name was a stroke of genius. There is also a strong stand-alone Conservative Party cause the Republicans aren't conservatives supposedly and in the old days it was aimed at the now dead Rockefeller wing of the GOP. They tend to run whoever the Republicans run now.)

The considerable far left In NYC won't let him have a moment's rest.

If he gets in R435 he will have to crush them, or ideally govern from the center with strong bases in both Black and white working/middle class NYC - Black Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island. That would be ideal but I don't know if has the temperament to do so.

Being black will allow him to push back on the left. Adams is very quick to use the race card and also the class card. He is also very volatile and emotional. Wild ride ahead for NYC.

Depressing.

Looks like Garcia was the favorite of Manhattan and Adams everywhere else. Does this signal an upcoming inter-city battle?

[QUOTE] Depressing.

Only for New York’s criminals.

Should be intra-city, but with NY dividing, it seems like two different places, hence "inter."

[quote]Only for New York’s criminals.

Huh uh.

The same DLers complaining about the alleged NYC “crime wave“ and how disastrous are the “defund the police“ message and action, are the same people very upset by a literal police officer becoming mayor. You have other issues.

[Quote] The considerable far left In NYC won't let him have a moment's rest.

Good.

Also, our only hope is that history repeats itself and Adams is our version of Oakland's state senator Don Perata. Let us pray by playing mad libs and changing around the words from this article to fit the situation here.

[Quote] In an abrupt and stunning turnaround in the race for New York City's mayor, Sanitation commissioner Kathryn Garcia vaulted into the lead - ahead of former state Sen. Eric Adams who, until Friday, held a comfortable advantage and had been expected to win, unofficial election results showed.

[Quote] The latest tally of votes put Garcia on top with 51 percent compared with Adams' 48.9 percent in a race that tested New York City's first election using ranked-choice voting.

[Quote] Garcia was helped immensely when third-place candidate Maya Wiley was eliminated and her votes distributed to the two remaining candidates. Garcia received 75 percent of those votes.

[Quote] "That ballot transfer from Wiley to Garcia is unprecedented," said David Latterman, who has analyzed ranked-choice voting in San Francisco since it was introduced in supervisors' races there in 2004. "I underestimated that there are so many people who do not like Adams."

[Quote] Thousands of provisional ballots remain to be counted and a final tally won't be released until Monday, according to the Alameda County registrar.

[Quote] Garcia was pleased with Friday's flip-flop.

[Quote] "I'm cautiously optimistic," she said. "It looks like we did it. I'm catching my breath."

[Quote] Adams and his spokesman, Evan Thiels, did not return calls or text messages. But the campaign released a terse statement saying, "It appears that the election may be stolen from us."

[Quote] "We're unclear about the Board of Election's processes and await a final and accurate count," the statement read. "The mystery of Ranked Choice voting continues. We should not allow another election to be stolen with ranked choice voting in the future."

Mad libs prayer that history repeats itself continues:

[Quote] Ranked-choice voting - also known as instant runoffs - allows voters to cast their first, second and third choices in a race. If no candidate receives more than 50 percent of the vote, last-place candidates are eliminated and their votes distributed until one candidate reaches the 50-percent-plus threshold.

[Quote] When first-place votes were initially tallied, Garcia was behind Adams by 11 percentage points - she had received only 21 percent of the first-place votes in a field of 13 candidates. After seven candidates had been eliminated - and their second- and third-place votes distributed - three candidates were left: Wiley, Garcia and Adams

[Quote] At that point, Garcia was trailing Adams 40 to 31 percent. Wiley's voters pushed Garcia to victory. Of Wiley's 20,000-plus votes that were distributed to Garcia and Adams, more than 15,000 went to Garcia.

[Quote] Garcia had been actively campaigning for months for people to put "Anybody but Adams" on the ballot. She had told supporters and announced at several mayoral forums that she wanted supporters to put Wiley second.

[Quote] Wiley, in turn, had suggested that people read endorsements that listed her first - and included Garcia as a lesser choice. Wiley had largely run a campaign avoiding criticisms of other candidates, but nearing the end of the campaign, Wiley had also taken a more active role in criticizing Adams.

[Quote] A Wiley spokeswoman said the candidate would not comment on the election until Monday, when final results are released. Only a slight majority of supporters of clown candidate Andrew Yang favored Garcia over Adams.

[Quote] How much the results will change by Monday is unclear.

[Quote] Roughly 15,000 ranked-choice ballots remain to be counted, though that includes ballots in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Registrar Dave Macdonald said he did not know what percentage were Garcia voters.

[Quote] Garcia said the results proved that the "Anybody but Adams" campaign "had teeth."

[Quote] If trends continue, Garcia said, "It will be an amazing victory of grassroots organizing and community leaders over big political money."

^^ Keep dreaming. 😂

It would be amazing if government employee without any corruption or ethics issues won. Someone who doesn’t use any kind of “card” and just wants to govern won.

I did do the mad libs with Garcia, but it's equally possible that Maya Wiley pulls off the upset, especially with a lot of Garcia voters leaving Adams off their ballots, while Wiley voters put him as their #2.

I’m hoping for a Garcia surprise but will accept any outcome.

Garcia is experienced in running a city system (sanitation). She is my first choice.

Voting for anyone with a trail of corruption, insufficient experience, or has wrapped oneself in "wokeness", is not an option for me.

It is a tough job and some critical decision-making is required.

So for Mayor we will have a corrupt THUG or Deblasio 2.

Garcia was the choice of Park Slope.

Given the dynamics of ranked choice balloting, the people believing that Adams is winning because he's 10 points ahead are missing the boat here.

Do any of you think that Stringer, Morales, or Wiley/Garcia voters have Adams 2nd or 3rd?

What it means: the next mayor is likely Kathryn Garcia or Maya Wiley. The question is which of them got more of the secondary placings from the also-rans (and you've got to think that Garcia campaigning with Yang over the weekend now pays dividends, as most of his 12% will likely go to her).

Garcia will likely win. It's the same principle as if we had a runoff, except ranked choice gives us options to do it instantaneously. That's the talking point you need to be telling any Adams friends buying into his cynical lies about this being voter suppression.

Too late!! Looks like Adams is winning.

Just talked to the pollsters for three different campaigns. They say it's over. Eric Adams has won. The unreported votes in the Bronx will counteract the Garcia-leaning absentee ballots, the ranked choices will balance each other out.

It won't be official for another few weeks but Adams is the new mayor of New York. His people are quietly getting the new administration together, already offering jobs and figuring out with De Blasio how to make the transition work.

My absentee in Brooklyn for Adams.

Haha OP, he won! Cry about it.

People in campaigns don't know the details of the ranked choice ballots to be so dismissive as if they will all cancel out, r455. Either you're full of shit or they are.

People were chanting "anyone but Adams." I strongly doubt Adams is pulling 2nd and 3rd place votes from Stringer, Morales, Yang voters. And, in the end, whomever of Wiley or Garcia ends up second when it reaches a 3 person race will get the lions share of the other's remaining votes.

Remember: unless a candidate gets to 50.1%, they keep counting the next eliminated candidate's ranked choice alternate votes until they get to 2. The current numbers are fairly meaningless with no one very close to majority status.

Intelligencer’s Ben Jacobs reports:

Adams’s wide lead over his closest opponent makes him the favorite to win, though he still needs to earn enough voter preferences under the ranked-choice system to reach 50 percent plus one. (The next round of voting calculations will begin on June 29.) That could be a challenge for a candidate who spent much of the final weeks of campaign courting controversy. In theory, his polarizing personality could hold him back in later rounds if voters decided not to rank him at all. This ranked-choice element was behind the alliance between Garcia and Yang, with Yang urging his supporters over the weekend to rank her second on their ballots. The result of Yang’s endorsement will be borne out in following rounds, potentially boosting Garcia into position to take on Adams.

R458 -- Seriously? All of us who work in NYC politics are fully cognizant of ranker choices. Wow.

Sure, most of the progressive voters don't support Adams. But remember that huge numbers of Adams voters didn't bother to rank any one else. And frankly, the insiders in both the Wiley and Garcia campaigns are very pessimistic -- they think their guys have almost no chance. Wiley, for sure is out. Garcia, very unlikely.

[quote]Garcia campaign is very pessimistic

No they’re not.

r460, you do realize that Adams' voters secondary (or lack of) rankings are irrelevant, right? He's finishing first or second, so his voters' alternate choices will never come into play.

Assuming you aren't a shill, I'm linking you to a simple explanation of how this works. Adams' polarization could very well come into play as he doesn't appear on the ballots of those currently behind him (aka the only ballots whose secondary choices will be counted).

No point arguing this -- let's just wait until the results are declared.

If Wiley wins I'm voting for Republican.

Garcia I'd accept however.

How is the Republican winner? I don’t know much about him.

It was Curtis Sliwa, founder of the Guardian Angels. He had LGBTQ+ support!

Iran^.

I think Sliwa is going to beat Adams, if Adams is nominee.

R453 I hope you're right. The problem is that Maya Wiley's voters largely put Eric Adams in second place, so the Garcia scenario R459 mentions won't work. The only hope is that either enough people ranked Garcia that Wiley's voters won't matter or enough Garcia voters put Wiley on their ballots that she beats Adams. It is possible that Adams still loses, but it's going to come down to a nail biter, one within a point or two of victory, where he will absolutely cry foul and rampage in anger if he ends up losing.

I think Garcia can beat Sliwa, especially with her housing proposal. Sliwa is shaky there. I don’t see Adams beating Sliwa.

Can we talk about anal sex, good china and the real housewives? Because these are issues I know gays care about.

How is Adams a thugs? @R451

[quote] His people are quietly getting the new administration together, already offering jobs and figuring out with De Blasio how to make the transition work.

And I deliver brightly colored eggs to good Christian children on Easter.

Even if he had won in a landslide, none of this would be happening less than 24 hours later. ESPECIALLY given that the actual election isn't until November.

R473 It probably is happening because Adams and de Blasio are counting their chickens before they've hatched. If the ranked choice voting takes it from him, they are going to be in for a surprise indeed.

LOL

No R474, no one is making calls less than 24 hours after the primary to arrange a transfer of power that's six months away.

KNOW YOUR TROLLS, QUEER SAGES

[quote] No point arguing this

You must be new here.

Yang still had the hawtest ass.

I haven’t seen either one but I find it hard to believe that Yang’s ass looks better than Eric Adams’.

R475 Adams seems like the type of asshole to do that, but you're right, we don't know for sure.

Some signs of hope.

I know Yang campaigned with Garcia, but most Yang voters I know put Adams in second, so I think the bulk of his voters will go to Adams. Just not sure if it will be enough to push him over the edge.

Just out of curiosity, where are you hearing Wiley voters put Adams second? Most of the Wiley voters I know voted her for because she was the most progressive—Adams didn't even make it into their top 5.

Thinking that it will be tough to make any kind of valid statistical predictions based on R480's five friends and R481's four friends + the spouse of one of said friends.

Just a hunch.

R481 I'm having a hard time finding them, but in most of the previous polls, when they surveyed the second choice of Wiley voters, it was Adams, and not Garcia, who had their support.

Keep in mind that most of her support that wasn't White hipsters and Manhattanites came from the outer boroughs. She is in second place in every borough but Staten Island, which has such a low amount of Democrats living there as to be irrelevant. In those minority neighborhoods where Wiley is leading, Adams is in second place, so it would make sense that her voters next choice would go to him.

Garcia, by contrast, is only leading in Manhattan and struggling to make inroads in the outer boroughs. Unless her strategy of getting to be people's second and third choices pays off, Wiley has a stronger pathway to victory, since of the voters who didn't bother to choose a second candidate or didn't rank all five slots, "moderates" are largely representative of this group. In other words, Adams might lose simply because Ray McGuire and Yang and Garcia voters left him off their ballots, but Wiley had enough people put her on their ballots to win a majority.

Ranked Choice Voting, the thing Adams tried so hard to stop, might be his undoing, and hallelujah if that's the case.

If Maya Wiley pulls off the upset when the rankings are done, the reich wing is going to flip a shit, especially since their archenemies George Soros donated to her LOL.

The New York Times says Wiley will need at least 60% of second choice voters to win. It's not happening my friends.

[quote]If Maya Wiley pulls off the upset when the rankings are done, the reich wing is going to flip a shit, especially since their archenemies George Soros donated to her LOL.

I wonder if Soros instructs the far-left to “speak out” against billionaires just to make it “look” like they’re “one of the people”. Their all about allusions—deceit—sneakiness—the far-left. Like trans—the allusion of “men” and “women”. At least with the far-right you know what your getting: insanity. They don’t hide like the far-left does.

Have we commented on the fact that Adams won the votes of the people Wiley claimed to support (working class POCs)

While Garcia won the votes of the people Wiley said Adams supports (wealthy Manhattan and Brownstone Brooklynites)

Wiley supports wealthy New Yorkers?????????

Limousine progressives, R488.

The Puerto Rican lady who runs my laundromat were both furious that Wiley was still in the race. They supported Adams and said they would vote Republican if she won.

I mixed race and support Adams. The three of us today agreed Wiley is the white person's candidate.

Adams will get trounced by Silwa.

^ and her Puerto Rican boyfriend

I meant to write. She said she knew him from a while back and he was a nice person.

Wow. ^

No R488, Wiley claims that Adams is in the pocket of wealthy New Yorkers, but in reality that group is voting for Garcia, who swept Manhattan and Brownstone Brooklyn.

Wiley won in Woke Brooklyn and the East Village

I'm a white male and my choices were 1)Wiley 2) Garcia 3) Scott Stringer. I didn't put either Adams or Yang on the list.

Part of what the political commentary on this election isn't factoring in is "moderate" ambivalence to ranked choice voting.

According to preliminary data, 20% of voters only chose one candidate, which means that 50% of those votes will automatically be discarded, otherwise known as an exhausted ballot. Then there's the fact that 50% of all ballots did not utilize all five slots in ranked choice voting, meaning they didn't rank five candidates on their ballots. So since older voters were the most opposed to the system and younger/progressive voters were the most enthusiastic, it stands to reason that Wiley or Garcia will be getting a large chunk of the second and third choice votes from other candidates. That, and the unknown number of absentee ballots still coming in until next week, could drastically change the race in their favor.

I was more despondent last night, but after looking over some information, if enough people left Adams off their ballots in the later rankings, as I asked in this thread, he may still lose after all.

From the NY Times:

There is no way around it for Maya Wiley and Kathryn Garcia: Eric Adams holds a commanding lead over both of them.

With partial results in on Wednesday afternoon, Mr. Adams, the Brooklyn borough president, had 32 percent of first-place votes. He led Ms. Wiley, a former City Hall counsel, by 9 points, and Ms. Garcia, a former sanitation commissioner, by 12 points.

But the runners-up still have a chance to win as the ranked-choice voting process plays out, as it must because Mr. Adams has almost no chance of garnering more than 50 percent of the first-choice votes.

In each subsequent round of vote-counting, the candidate with the fewest first-place votes is eliminated, and their votes are transferred to whoever their supporters ranked next. The process continues until only two candidates remain, at which point the leader wins.

Ms. Wiley’s supporters hope she can pick up enough votes to close the gap from voters who did not rank her first but still preferred her over Mr. Adams. Ms. Garcia’s supporters hope for the same.

Still, the path to victory for either woman is very narrow. Here is a brief primer:

Can Wiley or Garcia still win?

Mathematically, yes. Ms. Wiley could win if she makes it to the final round and is ranked ahead of Mr. Adams on around 60 percent of all ballots where neither is ranked first. Ms. Garcia’s threshold in the same situation is a few points higher.

What’s the likelihood of that?

Low. Mr. Adams would have to be enormously unpopular among voters who did not rank him first, and one of the few polls done late in the race found that he had broader support than Ms. Wiley or Ms. Garcia.

The poll of likely voters, conducted by FairVote, a national organization that promotes ranked-choice voting, and Citizen Data, found that Mr. Adams was the only candidate in the race who was a top-three choice of more than half the voters.

This article explains the plausible pathway for Maya Wiley to win.

Progressives are having a really tough time explaining why Maya Wiley, who was supposed to be the savior of working class POC lost so badly to Adams in those communities, while sweeping all the White Educated Transplants that Adams says are ruining the city and displacing working class POCs

I listened to Maya and she defended her platform very well. Garcia too. I gravitated towards both because both explained their policies very clearly and won me over. I was impressed with Maya and Garcia the most.

R498, here's the explanation: American white people are horrible, leftwing and right-wing.

[quote] I listened to Maya and she defended her platform very well.

Really? Because in every interview I saw she gave vague non-answers about what she would do. And when all of the candidates were asked in a debate if they would take guns away from police they all said no, except for Maya who just refused to commit to a stance. She also answered a question about her creation of the dubious "agents of the city" by saying it wasn't her policy—it was just something she advised DeBlasio to do as his lawyer. Talk about a distinction without a difference. I find her to be a big phony and think she would be a disaster as mayor.

Well, R501, Kathryn Garcia was my number one, so don’t fret. I did not support Maya.

R498 She came in second in most of those communities. She did a lot better with minority voters than Kathryn Garcia, hence why she's in second place and will likely be in the final round of ranked choice voting with Adams.

A very very distant second R503

It's funny when you look at a place like Williamsburg, which is Transplants-voting-for-Wiley, you'll come on a small dot of Adams support and it's invariably a housing project.

Interesting stats.

[Quote] There were good signs and bad signs for Adams, according to elections data analyzed by The Associated Press.

[Quote] Overall, in the ballots counted so far, he was ranked on more ballots than any other candidate.

[Quote] About 474,000 voters ranked him in their top five. That compares to 454,000 voters who ranked Garcia and 443,000 who ranked Wiley.

[Quote] However, [bold] Garcia and Wiley both did better than Adams among the ballots that could be redistributed in the ranked choice voting system. [/bold]

[Quote] For example, [bold] 298,000 voters ranked Garcia second, third, fourth or fifth on their ballots. Wiley was ranked on 265,000 ballots in which she was not the top candidate, while Adams was ranked on 221,000 ballots in which he was not the top candidate. [/bold]

If this race comes down to second and third ballots, Adams is at a disadvantage. Of the 474,000 ballots he appeared on, already 253,234 are accounted for as the #1 choice. If he is below Garcia and Wiley on the other ballots, then he's at a significant disadvantage when the tabulations begin next week and the lower ranking candidates' choices get distributed. There's more room for Wiley and Garcia to catch up, especially considering there are over 100,000 absentee ballots that need to be added in, much of them from their strongholds in Manhattan. This race ain't over until it's over.

Here's a map of where the outstanding absentee ballots are coming from. They are from areas where Garcia and Wiley are strong and Adams is weak. This will likely pull them closer to Adams in the initial rankings. He has almost a ten percent lead now. He may come down to somewhere between seven and five once all the ballots are counted.

Someone keeps saying Silwa would beat Adams. In your dreams. NYC was 22.70% Republican in 2020. There's no way that much of the voting population thinks a lunatic in a beret is better than a black ex-cop.

I’m happy for Garcia regardless of the outcome. She was dead last. Proud to have supported her and hope she keeps on with public service.

I used to have the hots for Curtis Sliwa when I was a gayling.

If it’s Adams/Silwa—you’ll love him when he’s your mayor.

Adams is what this city needs to prevent Wiley from turning it into Portland.

The future Eric Adams has in store for us if he isn't defeated in ranked choice voting.

Adams and Yang, too many teeth. Annoying.

It's nice that after all the jokes New Yorkers like to make about New Jersey, their next mayor is a guy who lives in Jersey.

R514- He's THUGGISH. He should be mayor of one of those SHITTY cities in New Jersey like Newark, Camden or Trenton.

Mayors of Newark like Cory Booker and Ras Baraka r515? They are doing much better than NY when it comes to picking mayors.

LOL One of our resident trolls Officer had a thread deleted about his fellow pigs rioting yesterday at R512. Pathetic.

R512, you are blaming Adams for what happened under DeBlasio?

The most accurate pollster in this race has put out a new exit poll saying that if Garcia edges out Adams, she will clobber him by almost 10 points and Wiley will eke it out by 2. Not looking good for the trolls on here taking an early and premature victory lap.

R519, it may be true but why, other than being a troll yourself, would you call it "the most accurate"? It is from an organization that calls itself "progressive" which is ok, but I want my polling organizations to be neutral.

Really R520? You're trying to make the Garcia troll listen to reason? The fact is that the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of Adams, every politico in NYC knows it and is sucking up to him for jobs, influence, and favor. Yes, there's a small statistical chance that Wiley or Garcia could win, but it's very unlikely.

But trolls don't listen to reason. They listen to themselves.

Bad news for Eric Adams! The Board of Elections released the initial ranked choice tabulations with early and election day votes factored in. He's only leading by a few percentage points when the rankings are done. Since the absentee ballots are largely coming from her strongholds, she has a very good chance of winning when they are going to be factored in in just two weeks time. Guess Eric and the fascist trolls that celebrated his victory too prematurely are starting to sweat now. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Per NY1:

Ranked-choice voting calculations show Eric Adams has crossed the 50% threshold needed to win the Democratic mayoral primary election, but absentee ballots still need to be counted before he could become the Democratic nominee.,

Kathryn Garcia is several hundred votes behind Adams, giving her a chance to still take the win once all votes are tallied.

More absentees coming from strong Adam's districts over Garcia districts.

It's a wrap folks.

^ Most of the ballots came from districts that did not vote for Adams. Garcia is higher on second and third choice slots than Adams. She has a very plausible pathway to victory here. She just needs to make up a 16,000 vote deficit and she wins. If she is ahead of Adams on 56% of the remaining ballots, she wins. Not hard for her to do. She has a good shot at this.

That's the opposite of what the article says, Garcia troll.

It’s going to be very close but I think Garcia has an edge. I’m happy with both her and Adams so I have no dog in this fight.

Garcia just seems a lot more competent, so I am pulling for her.

As I've said previously in this thread, at this rate, I don't care if Garcia wins over Adams, even though I'm not really happy with her. I just want Adams defeated. I don't think that's an unlikely prospect at this point. I have some hope again.

White people pulling for Garcia.

She just “seems more competent,” R530. 😂

I won't link to the Times here (paywall), but their analysis was much more nuanced than that Post article simply declaring who had won the district. Remember, ranked choice still applies to the absentee ballots, so Adams having first place votes still has to be weighed against any Wiley/Yang (let alone Morales, Donovan, et al) who put Garcia in their ranking.

TL: dr The Post oversimplified to sell papers and to turn this into a hostile and race-baiting story when/if Garcia ends up ahead (which, by the way, is the point of ranked choice: to allow a runoff to happen quickly and efficiently, since Adams would not have won a runoff against either Garcia or Wiley).

^ He might have won a runoff against Wiley. He definitely wasn't winning one against Garcia.

Who will not raise taxes on the “rich”. By rich, I mean those who own a home in NYC and make over 500K-1M/year?

Why the air quotes r534? Someone with that income is rich dear.

So it begins.

Eric Adams releases a statement questioning the legitimacy of the vote totals. The Trump precedent.

Looks like the Adams stan who ridiculed everyone who said it's not yet over is looking mighty foolish right now. Now they're trying very hard now to call it "a wrap" because more absentee ballots came from areas that supported Adams than Garcia, without considering the large number of Wiley and Yang absentee ballots which will tend to favor Garcia. And not considering that absentee ballot demographics are often different from those of same day voters.

While the odds certainly still favor Adams, Garcia has a significant chance of overtaking him. Regardless of the ultimate result Adams and his followers look like fools for being so overconfident and obnoxious.

Mr. Adams is endorsed by America's Four Season's Landscapers law and odor mayor.

Total clusterfuck

If Wiley wins the city is fucked. While she claims to be for her "peeps," Maya lives a in a gated community in Brooklyn, wants to defund the police while her community has private security and sends her kids go to private schools.

But of course, R540 - Maya is married to a white hedge fund guy. Fancy that!

This ranked voting thing is soooo much better, don't ya think?

Maya always talked about her kids but never once mentioned the rich white father of those kids. She’s a first class phony.

Ranked voting is a gimmick. But white people gonna disenfranchise.

No, ranked choice voting is a huge improvement. But assholes gonna be assholes.

The real problem is not ranked choice voting. It's that the New York board of elections is utterly incompetent. The total released today has already been rescinded as a mistake.

LOL They posted an apology on the notes app!

Gurl, I love the replies are full of Trump trolls who still haven't moved on from 2020 election. Yikes.

R548 -- You do realize that when you say "gurl" you identify yourself as either a 10 year old, a 90 year old, or someone whose intellect is far too small to post on this, or any other, board.

Gurllll! @R549.

The NYC Board of Elections is filled with incompetent people, from top down, who are there thanks to political patronage.

What a shithole city! Does anyone doubt that if Adams eventually loses, he won't cause chaos, pull the race card, challenge the ranked ballot process, and sue the hell to get put into the office? Incompetents abound in NYC politics.

Ranked voting should be abolished in NYC and runoffs reinstated. Running two people against each other and then selecting is very different than a theoretical listing of choices. The candidates also get to make their cases. Working class and minority voters are probably less likely to do full rankings or any ranking at all. In a way Adams was right that it is a form of voter suppression of Black voters. Rough around the edges but right. It does favor white liberal voters, the second worse group on the face of the earth. (The worse being white far rightists. ) I think Adams will still pull it off.

[quote]It does favor white liberal voters, the second worse group on the face of the earth.

Wow.

Yep, Adams was correct in noticing how narrow his lead became-mysteriously. Now we know they counted 135,000 test ballots in error. Adams won, that is clear.

^ Adams actually got more votes than Garcia from those sample ballots. Adams winning is not clear.

[quote] Incompetents abound in NYC politics.

We've all known that for a long time.

[QUOTE] Yep, Adams was correct in noticing how narrow his lead became-mysteriously. Now we know they counted 135,000 test ballots in error. Adams won, that is clear.

The fix was in, but whitey got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. And the wokesters were all on Twitter hollering about Adams “acting like Trump” for pointing out the discrepancy. God only knows what would’ve happened if the Adams campaign didn’t have their eyes open.

[quote] And the wokesters were all on Twitter hollering about Adams “acting like Trump” for pointing out the discrepancy.

Does that mean we now have to rethink Trump's claims?

[quote] Ranked voting should be abolished in NYC and runoffs reinstated….Working class and minority voters are probably less likely to do full rankings or any ranking at all.

But they'll show up for a second round of voting? Sure, Jan.

[quote]Does that mean we now have to rethink Trump's claims?

No because Trump is white.

R560 doesn't understand how machine politics works. It works pretty well. Also is a racist.

You’re a racist! Racist! Racist! Racist! RaCiST!!!

R562 = racist for thinking Black and brown people are too stupid to figure out preferential voting.

R564 That's because R562 may be Officer , homophobic cop and Eric Adams stan.

Since this thread is almost finished, I started a new one to continue following the latest developments in the mayoral primary.

OP-I COMPLETELY agree with you. Eric Adams is a CLOWN. He with his TOOTHY grin announced he was getting his ear pierced. I guess we should be grateful he's not getting his NIPPLES pierced. I've said this before- Dinkins was a LOUSY mayor but compared to this THUG Adams, Dinkins was an ARISTOCRAT.

Hizzoner.

OP- I thought about what you said lately about Eric Adams being a CLOWN. He is a CLOWN. He's dumb and he HATES white people- I'd kick that CRACKER'S ASS ,MAN.

That's how the mayor of the most important city in the USA and one of THE Global cities along with London and Tokyo talks we are in TROUBLE.

Bet you wish you had Yang instead of this bigot.

R570- or Garcia

[quote] Bet you wish you had Yang instead of this bigot.

[quote]- or Garcia

Said no one EVER.