He wants another Oscar!
Leo IS Jim Jones!
|by Anonymous||reply 172||November 28, 2021 10:08 AM|
Who wants to see a movie about Jonestown?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 8, 2021 10:12 PM|
R1 I do.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 8, 2021 10:14 PM|
Yeah i'd watch it
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 8, 2021 10:19 PM|
Didn’t Jones have sex with female and male church members to dominate and humiliate them?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 8, 2021 10:22 PM|
I'm surprised they haven't already made a movie about this thing a long time ago. And not just one. It's an automatic award magnet.
And the main actor has to do some weird body transformation (loose a lot of weight, gain a lot a weight, not shave for a year, gain a lot of muscles (Well I guess in this case Leo can't do much since he has been chubby for the last 20 years and Jim Jones was chubby) to show how dedicated he is to the character, the story and do the accuracy of the movie.
And drop some hints that he is doing crazy method acting on the sets (like not getting out of the character even after the cameras are off, being in character when talking to the fans on the street) and the media and fans will eat it right up. He would be getting tons of praise and awards predictions before anyone would even see a second of the movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 8, 2021 10:26 PM|
Don't we have enough sociopaths in our daily lives (see congress) without doing a movie about one of the most famous ones?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 8, 2021 10:33 PM|
R6 But stories about the good folks just don't make interesting movies.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 8, 2021 10:36 PM|
[quote] "I'm surprised they haven't already made a movie about this thing a long time ago. And not just one. It's an automatic award magnet."
They have, at least twice. Once in 1980, which resulted in an Emmy Award win for Powers Boothe as Jones. There was another film in 2007, but I haven't seen it.
DiCaprio as Jones? No thanks.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 8, 2021 10:41 PM|
A movie about Jonestown wouldn't spawn many sequels.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 8, 2021 10:54 PM|
It’s almost too disturbing to make a film about. In a way it feels like a no-go zone for a prestige project. I can’t imagine someone well-regarded making a film about Sandy Hook, for example.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 8, 2021 10:57 PM|
Powers Boothe was really phenomenal in that film, R8. His performance still haunts me to this day. RIP to an outstanding actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 8, 2021 11:00 PM|
R8 I meant a huge Hollywood blockbuster type of movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 8, 2021 11:11 PM|
Lindsay Lohan IS Kool-Aid drinker #36.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 8, 2021 11:12 PM|
Leo will be great in that! Hope it gets made.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 8, 2021 11:43 PM|
MAGA catnip. They LOOOOOOVE cults of personality
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 8, 2021 11:45 PM|
Blech, ugly story. Is Irene Cara available to return?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 8, 2021 11:49 PM|
Even now, looking at pictures of Jim Jones makes me shiver. He was one scary-looking motherfucker.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 8, 2021 11:50 PM|
The worst casting decision ever. Joaquin Phoenix would have been a better choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 8, 2021 11:51 PM|
Jim Jones and his followers were socialists
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 8, 2021 11:51 PM|
They didn't even drank Kool-Aid
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 8, 2021 11:54 PM|
Can I play a bloated corpse, Leo? Can I? PLLLLLEEEEEASE can I?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 8, 2021 11:55 PM|
I had no idea handsome Powers Boothe died.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 8, 2021 11:58 PM|
It was sudden. He died in his sleep.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 8, 2021 11:59 PM|
Make sure you show up for the awards.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 8, 2021 11:59 PM|
R23 Did he drank Kool-Aid?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 9, 2021 12:02 AM|
Powers Boothe did look a lot like Jim Jones.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 9, 2021 12:03 AM|
What was the poison they put in the Koolaid?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 9, 2021 12:04 AM|
I am curious about the lives of the victims/ cult members. I think they started with good intentions, they weren't initially malicious.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 9, 2021 12:07 AM|
Cyanide was purchased supposedly for jewelry making. Jim Jones didn't do it alone, various people ordered the cyanide, signed for it and had it stored away.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 9, 2021 12:08 AM|
The saddest part is that the children were made to drink it.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 9, 2021 12:10 AM|
No one wants to see a movie about the mass murder of children.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 9, 2021 12:13 AM|
R30, Jonestown and the Atlanta child murders are the first news stories that I paid attention to, precisely because children were among the victims and I was a child myself.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 9, 2021 12:15 AM|
This is all just an excuse for him to gain 40 additional pounds.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 9, 2021 12:16 AM|
Young Jim Jones
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 9, 2021 12:19 AM|
R31 does not speak for all of us!
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 9, 2021 12:19 AM|
Older without his sunglasses
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 9, 2021 12:20 AM|
Why are there no jokes about Jonestown?
Because the punchlines are too long.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 9, 2021 12:23 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 9, 2021 12:31 AM|
Leo doesn't have the speaking voice for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 9, 2021 12:38 AM|
I'm actually interested in seeing this.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 9, 2021 12:39 AM|
Wasn't James Gandolfini rumored to be in the running for this before he died? How I would love to see that version.
Frances McDormand should plays Jones's mom. Zendaya can take Irene Cara's part.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 9, 2021 12:47 AM|
I read up alot and listened to podcasts about Jonestown, always had a strange fascination with it. The story goes so much deeper and is so much creepier than people give it credit for. It would work so much better as a docu mini series than a dumb ass 2 hour movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 9, 2021 1:18 AM|
Leo doesn't do tv
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 9, 2021 1:22 AM|
For if it wasn't known here already, Harvey Milk ( yes, that Harvey) wrote a letter to the Carter's telling them to ignore the rumors already circulating that Jim was a crazy, abusive piece of shit....this was in January 1978, just 10 months before the mass suicide. This was because Jim got him a shit ton of voters in the past. Lesson of the story. kudos to Milk for what he achieved but a politican will always be....a politician
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 9, 2021 1:23 AM|
Setting aside the vocal and physical differences---it's an obvious fit, almost too obvious. Charismatic but morally vacant has become Leo's metier. I wish he'd branch out more rather than limit himself to this grandstanding notion of what acting is or should be.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 9, 2021 1:24 AM|
I object! This is cultist! Why can't they hire a true cult leader actor to play the part of a cult leader?
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 9, 2021 1:26 AM|
Jim Jones held a lot of power in San Francisco at the time and Milk knew he was not a man to cross.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 9, 2021 1:27 AM|
I have an outline for the sequel where he escapes to San Francisco and hijinks ensue!
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 9, 2021 1:28 AM|
Jim Jones also had sex with men - will that be explored in this new movie
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 9, 2021 1:28 AM|
R4 - The TV movie did show that Jones was bisexual. A scene had him welcoming a young drug addict into the church, and he soon became fixated on the young man. There was a very intense scene with him tending to the guy through withdrawal, holding him down in bed and tenderly wiping the sweat from his body. After that, Jim made the guy his right-hand man.
Later, the guy left the church because his girlfriend sensed that Jones was too "friendly" toward the guy, and Jones tracked them down to an apartment. After sweet talking the guy to come back, he kissed him in front of the guys girlfriend, who stood there crying, realizing that she was losing her partner. Of course because this was a TV movie made in 1980's they cut the scene right before their lips met, but it was still a crazy scene for the day.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 9, 2021 1:34 AM|
Thank you, r45. I'm starting to give up hope for one more teaming of Leo and Kate, but this time a smart romantic comedy. I want to see the charming deftness with light comedy he showed in Titanic.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 9, 2021 1:37 AM|
Ironically, Milk and Moscone were killed just 9 days after Jonestown.
R50, I've seen that on youtube. Powers Boothe played JJ. He was great. The ending is so fucking creepy.
"Transmissions from Jonestown" is an excellent podcast series that goes into great detail of everything pre/during/post the tragedy. Highly recommend it if you're interested in the subject.3
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 9, 2021 1:39 AM|
CNN did a great documentary just a few years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 9, 2021 1:46 AM|
I'm not the biggest Josh Brolin fan, but he would be much better than DiCaprio.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 9, 2021 1:48 AM|
Josh Brolin would actually be a great choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 9, 2021 1:49 AM|
That CNN documentary talked about his current Rep Jackie Speir was there to check on the well-being of the people from CA and ended up shot and almost dying.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 9, 2021 1:53 AM|
R54 Absolutely and he would have kind of a weird connection to it since he played Milk's murderer. Think he might be a bit too old though.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 9, 2021 1:54 AM|
It wasn't Kool-Aid. It was some other copy colored drink.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 9, 2021 1:55 AM|
Jackie Speir's story is unbelievable. That woman was made of steel.*.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 9, 2021 1:56 AM|
Flavor-Aid which they carried at Aldi when I was a kid.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 9, 2021 1:56 AM|
It was the cheaper version of Kool Aid. My mom would jump back and forth between brands depending on funds or specials
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 9, 2021 1:58 AM|
Something that always surprised me about Jonestown was how many African-Americans were involved and ended up dying there. Black people don't seem like they are easily led (or brainwashed in this case), especially by an insane white man.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 9, 2021 2:09 AM|
I'd be interested in a movie about Jonestown but I've never been interested in a movie starring Leonardo DiCaprio and never will be.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 9, 2021 2:10 AM|
R62 actually the whole tragedy is a good way to see how "well meaning" people can take advantage and manipulate people in very bad positions in society.69
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 9, 2021 2:15 AM|
The People's Temple welcomed those who were outcast from society. Many blacks and gays joined to feel part of a community.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 9, 2021 2:21 AM|
That's part of these types of why some of these stories are so interesting. There are people from all walks of life, all positions, backgrounds, etc. It's a right place/right time sort of thing, and I assume a lot of them do find friendship and camaraderie. It's a pretty fascinating subject. Not just official cults, but people who get caught up in a way of thinking that is ultimately destructive. Hell, even staying alone, and fearing others can become its own destructive mindset.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 9, 2021 2:24 AM|
One of the survivors was a gay man who left that day with Leo Ryan. He unfortunately left his son behind who was killed.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 9, 2021 2:26 AM|
why does DL trash him? I like him. Good actor--makes interesting choices.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 9, 2021 2:27 AM|
Tbh by it's last few years, Jonestown was barely a cult and more of a political comune.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 9, 2021 2:27 AM|
The best part of the story is when they had a politician visit and said they would allow anyone to leave that wanted to. But then they killed them all when they actually tried to leave. however i believe there were some survivors of the final massacre.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 9, 2021 2:36 AM|
It's doubtful that Jim Jones gave the orders to kill those who were leaving. In the death tape it's clear he's high as fuck and has no clue what's happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 9, 2021 2:40 AM|
R70 Yeah and it's all on film. You can just feel the absolute heavy, shitty vibes in those videos.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||November 9, 2021 2:40 AM|
Jones had a pet chimp named Mr Muggs, who was shot before the Kool Aid was distributed.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 9, 2021 2:46 AM|
Before he became a minister Jim sold monkeys through ads in the backs of magazines.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 9, 2021 2:48 AM|
If we see Leo as Jim shoot Mr Muggs he can never be redeemed.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 9, 2021 2:50 AM|
There are still thousands of people, including myself, from the Bay Area who met Jim Jones. My lover's mom, a member of the Church of Christ in Oakland knew dozens of his victims. Jim Jones was evil, I thought Satan himself lived in him. He hit on me and tried to rope me into his cult. He gave me the creeps. I know this will sound strange but he and Donald Trump had much in common.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 9, 2021 2:51 AM|
I think Leo is a good choice for this. If I were doing casting in my head for this story, I don't think I would have come up with him as my choice for Jim Jones, but now that it's been mentioned I get how this could be good.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 9, 2021 2:52 AM|
Will they shoot on-location in Guyana?
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 9, 2021 2:53 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 79||November 9, 2021 2:53 AM|
One of the most chilling things I have ever heard was the tape of the young woman brave enough to interrupt Jones during his death speech to argue with him to please not do this to the children. She was so brave and I think they forced her to drink. While Jones may have been high he was very eloquent and coherent.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||November 9, 2021 2:57 AM|
He knew exactly what he was doing. Doesn't matter if he was high or not. He knew he'd dug himself in deep, and saw no way out but to take himself and everyone around him out as martyrs. He took his followers on for a fucked up ride.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||November 9, 2021 3:04 AM|
I would love to see it! It was absolutely shocking back in the day to see aerial footage of those 900 bodies. And then to hear the recording. Jim Jones was pure evil. And it was such a sad and awful event.
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned repeat it.” - Jim Jones. Such a creepy sign hanging above all of those poor, unfortunate souls (many children).
|by Anonymous||reply 82||November 9, 2021 3:09 AM|
R62 My understanding was that Jones was promising minority members the idea of a non racial society, where they would be judged only by their character. To them it probably seemed like a better deal than the chaotic mess back at home. For all the upheaval of the era it seemed a slightly more optimistic time, many people really threw themselves into various social movements. I think for most of the Jonestown members it was a frog in the water type of situation, where things gradually grew more sinister until it was too late to leave.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||November 9, 2021 3:10 AM|
Leo is going to win multiple Oscars in the next few years. The movies he has lined up right now is beyond impressive. I predict that he'll be the male actor with the most Oscar wins before the decade is over.
He's probably the last great Hollywood star we'll ever see.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||November 9, 2021 3:11 AM|
I give Leo credit for not going the superhero/franchise route. God knows he could've easily done it and made a bloody fortune but he's stayed away from all of that.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||November 9, 2021 3:14 AM|
R49 did he have sex with Harvey Milk?
|by Anonymous||reply 86||November 9, 2021 3:17 AM|
R49 Never been confirmed, I don't think . I suppose it's possible but I think by then Milk was monogamous and with a partner.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||November 9, 2021 3:21 AM|
I wonder if Leo will squint, shouting through clenched teeth and sticking his chin out, all while making his face red, spitting and jabbing his finger menacingly at someone.
You know— for a change.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||November 9, 2021 3:22 AM|
I hate the idea. Leo is a good actor but every time I see him in something, I always feel like I am watching Leo portray X character which is not so bad when it comes to fictional characters but terrible when portraying a historic/real life one.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||November 9, 2021 3:23 AM|
R88 Have you seen footage of Jim Jones?
It will seem like it's going to cut off after pt 1, but it does keep going.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||November 9, 2021 3:24 AM|
Leo would be incredible as the next James Bond, but y'all aren't ready for that conversation.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||November 9, 2021 3:29 AM|
I think the worse thing I found out about Jonestown was that one of Jim's "secretaries" (who were always white, young pretty, despite Jim always going on about racial equality) who was out of town and not in Jonestown heard the news and killed herself and her 2 kids by his orders. And it wasn't with Kool-aid either.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||November 9, 2021 3:30 AM|
In the early evening of November 18, at the Temple's headquarters in Georgetown, Temple member Sharon Amos received a radio communication from Jonestown instructing the members at the headquarters to take revenge on the Temple's enemies and then commit revolutionary suicide. Later, after police arrived at the headquarters, Sharon escorted her children, Liane (21), Christa (11), and Martin (10), into a bathroom. Wielding a kitchen knife, Sharon first killed Christa, and then Martin. Then Liane assisted Sharon in killing herself with the knife, after which Liane killed herself with the knife.
Stephan, Tim and Jim Jr. eventually found them dead after they arrived at the Temple headquarters in their efforts to return to Jonestown to stop the suicide.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||November 9, 2021 3:34 AM|
The TV mini-series with Powers Booth did include scenes with him having sex with men. It was hot too.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||November 9, 2021 3:35 AM|
[quote]Joaquin Phoenix would have been a better choice.
Absolutely. Little acting required!
|by Anonymous||reply 95||November 9, 2021 3:37 AM|
R94, there was alot of insinuations and things that were implied but tv was so innocent then they even cut away from Jim and the guy kissing.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||November 9, 2021 3:45 AM|
I hope this is good. This whole situation has always fascinated me.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||November 9, 2021 3:50 AM|
Leo DiCaprio does play maniacal well...such as in "The Wolves Of Wall Street". I can see him in this role.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||November 9, 2021 11:30 AM|
Adam Driver would be a better choice imo8
|by Anonymous||reply 99||November 9, 2021 1:34 PM|
Leo doesn’t do TV R43?
I would totally watch this.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||November 9, 2021 1:52 PM|
Leo doesn't do tv r100. That obviously means now, as a major movie star. Not when he was starting out as a kid. God, some of you are dense.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||November 9, 2021 1:54 PM|
Only interesting if TPTB are willing to go out on a limb and discuss Jones' CIA ties including using People's Temple Members to fight as mercenaries in Africa. Also wild tales of using coffins to transport drugs to SF like what was supposedly done in Viet Nam.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||November 9, 2021 2:03 PM|
This is why I hate the idea of a 2 hour o3r less movie, There are so many crazy things to get into about Jones. No way they will be able to go into everything. This should be a docuseries or miniseries on Netflix.3
|by Anonymous||reply 103||November 9, 2021 2:06 PM|
Who’s going to play Willie Brown or Jerry Brown? Will Jane Fonda make a cameo?
|by Anonymous||reply 104||November 9, 2021 2:07 PM|
I think they should go with someone English.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||November 9, 2021 2:08 PM|
[quote]positions in society.69
|by Anonymous||reply 106||November 9, 2021 2:12 PM|
A wicked con artist and flawed, gullible sheep who took the lives of innocent children.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||November 9, 2021 2:18 PM|
It will probably look like his Django character. He’s not an interesting choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||November 9, 2021 2:19 PM|
This film will be straight washed. Leo will never play gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||November 9, 2021 4:29 PM|
R109, Leo has played gay already -- he played teen poet Arthur Rimbaud in the movie "Total Eclipse", where you check out him lip-locking with David Thewlis.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||November 9, 2021 6:26 PM|
There was also a campy, low-budget exploitation version made around the time of the Power Boothe movie: [italic]Guyana: Cult of the Damned[/italic] (a.k.a. [italic]Guyana: Crime of the Century[/italic]), starring Stuart Whitman as "Jim Johnson." (The main characters' names were changed because the writer took liberties with the story.)
|by Anonymous||reply 111||November 9, 2021 6:44 PM|
^ *Powers* Boothe
|by Anonymous||reply 112||November 9, 2021 6:45 PM|
Wow - Joseph Cotton had a cameo in that Cult of the Damned movie. That's almost Joan Crawford Trog-level career desperation.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||November 9, 2021 6:50 PM|
R113 Well, Cotton had already appeared in Doomsday Voyage, Syndicate Sadist and Lady Frankenstein by this time so Cult of the Damned was a step up.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||November 9, 2021 8:02 PM|
Who plays Jackie Speier?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||November 9, 2021 8:08 PM|
That's Jim Jones son in the clip at R90? He is hot!
|by Anonymous||reply 116||November 9, 2021 8:10 PM|
I hope fucking Ryan Murphy isn’t in any way involved!
|by Anonymous||reply 117||November 9, 2021 8:14 PM|
I agree Josh Brolin would be a better choice, he definitely has a harder edge about him than Leo, and physically he is a closer match. Joaquin could do it but as the poster above said, it probably hits to close to home.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||November 9, 2021 8:15 PM|
Joaquin has a weirdly hypnotic charisma but it's different from Jim Jones. I always thought Joaq would play a great Rasputin.
I still say Adam Driver would be better. Josh would be best but he's too old.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||November 9, 2021 8:30 PM|
I'm guessing Matt Dillon is too old for the part?
|by Anonymous||reply 120||November 9, 2021 8:39 PM|
This is the excellent CNN special "Escape From Jonestown." It is riveting to hear the stories of the survivors.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||November 9, 2021 8:51 PM|
November 18 is the 43rd anniversary.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||November 9, 2021 8:57 PM|
[quote]The saddest part is that the children were made to drink it.
Sad is such a strong word.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||November 9, 2021 9:12 PM|
R67 Vernon Gosey. He was an openly gay HIV positive police officer in Maui . Sadly died early this year in a bypass surgery.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||November 9, 2021 9:44 PM|
Gosney was instrumental in gaining an early release for Larry Layton, the man who shot him .
|by Anonymous||reply 125||November 9, 2021 10:07 PM|
I won't see it. A movie about a sick fuck is not my idea of a good time.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||November 9, 2021 11:03 PM|
We just went through 4 years of having as President a sick fuck who tried to tell everyone to kill themselves. So I could see it reimagined as "Trumptown" with all the MAGA followers dying of bleach poisoning.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||November 9, 2021 11:06 PM|
Modern-day DiCaprio is sadly devoid of charisma
|by Anonymous||reply 128||November 10, 2021 12:16 AM|
He gives me depression.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||November 10, 2021 12:18 AM|
Leo doesn't physically resemble Jim Jones but could probably do a decent job, anyway.
Agree that Joaquin Phoenix is a good idea.
Jared Leto also comes to mind, something about the eyes.
The church / Guyana was supposed to be a post-racist society. However, turns out that all the people in power were white (in the Jim Jones organization).
|by Anonymous||reply 130||November 10, 2021 12:28 AM|
a thread about the cast of the mini-series.
Tons of DL favs including DIANA SCARWID!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 131||November 10, 2021 12:51 AM|
It would seem Leo has a vested interest in this subject? He along with a couple of others produced an absolutely excellent 2 part BBC documentary on the subject last year. Worth checking out.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||November 10, 2021 1:11 AM|
*not last year, in 2018
|by Anonymous||reply 133||November 10, 2021 1:12 AM|
r132 thank you for that
|by Anonymous||reply 134||November 10, 2021 1:23 AM|
R128 He had tons of charisma in The Wolf of Wall Street.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||November 10, 2021 1:35 AM|
There is so much dark, dark info on the internet about People's Temple that the excellent Powers' Booth miniseries and the doc above gloss over. For example many members were former drug addicts and the chronically unemployed. There were pressured into turning over their SSI checks to Jim Jones. He also got money from SF government to absolve the City of their problem occupants.
Jim Jones moved to SF because of repeated claims of child abuse, sexual misconduct, physical and emotional abuse, and questionable financial dealings in the Midwest locations. Stories leaked are horrendous.
Many of the stronger members ran into the jungle trying to escape being forced at gunpoint to drink the poison. They were shot down.
Some escaped to reveal what had happened to them also revealing that most were too weak to run and to save themselves. Crop failures in the harsh Guyana jungle meant massive malnutrition among people struggling to cope with the challenging and unfamiliar jungle climate. Jim Jones would never have admitted to the massive failure.
Jim Jones' son was playing basketball at another location with his teammates the day of the tragedy.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||November 10, 2021 1:37 AM|
I wish Leo had done The Devil in the White City instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||November 10, 2021 1:38 AM|
Leo has the best instincts in Hollywood when it comes to picking roles. He doesn't miss. Of course, it doesn't hurt when you're Martin Scorcese's favorite actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||November 10, 2021 3:21 AM|
Pity how he's never been able to find a good wife.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||November 10, 2021 3:22 AM|
From DeNiro to DiCaprio was a real nosedive for Scorsese.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||November 10, 2021 3:27 AM|
R140, Are you pressed that Scorcese doesn't favor Timothee?
|by Anonymous||reply 141||November 10, 2021 3:40 AM|
R50 that was hot in his day Brad Dourif. I don't blame ole Jimmy for that one!
|by Anonymous||reply 142||November 10, 2021 3:59 AM|
And the girlfriend was Diana Scarwid, Christina Crawford.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||November 10, 2021 4:00 AM|
Scarwid is actually very good in the mini-series. I can see why she got plum film roles after it. (and Christina Crawford was probably thought of as a really good role at the time. Who knew the reception it would get.)
|by Anonymous||reply 144||November 10, 2021 4:07 AM|
R137, I bet it came down to money: it's a lot cheaper to reproduce the 1970s than it is the 1890s, particularly when the latter requires recreations of the titular White City at the World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago.
My suggestion: use the massive set on more than one film - find other properties that could utilize the set: an elaborate remake of Show Boat? Or biographies of other people famously associated with the Exposition?
|by Anonymous||reply 145||November 10, 2021 4:14 AM|
Save your money. There is no way Leo could improve on Powers' performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||November 10, 2021 5:00 AM|
[quote] Leo has the best instincts in Hollywood when it comes to picking roles. He doesn't miss.
He certainly missed in the awful J. Edgar, where he was once again miscast.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||November 10, 2021 5:02 AM|
Leo is certainly bloated, so good casting.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||November 10, 2021 5:04 AM|
Leo missed with The Beach and Gangs of New York. No one is perfect.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||November 10, 2021 5:14 AM|
Gotcha, R12. It was still pretty raw in 1980, and I'm not sure folks would've responded to a blockbuster version as well as they did the T.V. movie. Oh, and apparently, the 2007 film is a documentary style film, with reenactments.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||November 10, 2021 9:43 AM|
[quote] I still say Adam Driver would be better. Josh would be best but he's too old.
Adam Driver's height/appearance would have been enormously distracting.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||November 11, 2021 3:04 AM|
When DiCaprio just morph into Jack Nicholson? He wants to be Jack so very bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||November 11, 2021 8:15 PM|
Leo doesn't have Jack's sense of humor. Nicholson could be very funny, even in his serious roles. Leo just wants to be serious all the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||November 11, 2021 8:21 PM|
Leo laughs at others.
He doesn’t source funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||November 11, 2021 8:30 PM|
And, is it me, or does even adult Leo sound like an adolescent trying to come off as an adult?
|by Anonymous||reply 155||November 11, 2021 8:32 PM|
We had a huge thread on Jonestown. It's morbidly fascinating.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||November 26, 2021 9:02 PM|
Milk's relationship with the Temple was not entirely similar to other politicians' in Northern California. According to The San Francisco Examiner, Jones and his parishioners were a "potent political force", helping to elect Moscone (who appointed him to the Housing Authority), District Attorney Joseph Freitas, and Sheriff Richard Hongisto. . Milk spoke at the Temple and defended Jones in a letter to President Jimmy Carter in 1978. (In that letter he called Jones "a man of the highest character," and criticized outspoken Temple defectors for trying to "damage Rev. Jones' reputation" with "apparent bold-faced lies". However, When Milk learned Jones was backing both him and Art Agnos in 1976, he told friend Michael Wong, "Well fuck him. I'll take his workers, but, that's the game Jim Jones plays." But to his volunteers, he said: "Make sure you're always nice to the Peoples Temple. If they ask you to do something, do it, and then send them a note thanking them for asking you to do it."
|by Anonymous||reply 157||November 26, 2021 9:06 PM|
Leo will have 4 Oscars within the next 5 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||November 26, 2021 9:21 PM|
R157, yes I heard that. I wasn't trying to single Milk out, but just show that a politician is not above being a politician which is why...I am not a huge fan of them or could never trust them completely, no matter how revolutionary his sexual orientation may be.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||November 26, 2021 9:25 PM|
He picks the best projects and directors out of all the actors working in the last 20-25 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||November 27, 2021 4:25 PM|
Will he get the Academy to drink the Flavor-Aid and give him another Oscar?
|by Anonymous||reply 161||November 27, 2021 4:26 PM|
He hasn't gone the dumb fratboy comedy route or the superhero route, so that's commendable. He could do it in a minute and make millions and millions if he wanted to, but so far he's picked interesting projects instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||November 27, 2021 4:27 PM|
This story is so old and played out. Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||November 27, 2021 4:32 PM|
^ It's not really old. It happened in the 70s. So recently. And it's not played out either. It's not like there is dozens of movies about Jim Jones and Jonestown. This will be the first "big" movie about it
|by Anonymous||reply 164||November 27, 2021 4:39 PM|
LOL only on Datalounge are the 1970s "recent!"
|by Anonymous||reply 165||November 27, 2021 7:34 PM|
R165 Humans have been on this planet for six millions years, dummy. So yeah, story from a few decades ago isn't old or played out.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||November 27, 2021 10:01 PM|
Six million? Ok.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||November 28, 2021 12:10 AM|
I better not see any product placement in this movie: neither Flavor Aid nor Kool Aid.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||November 28, 2021 12:15 AM|
[quote] He picks the best projects and directors out of all the actors working in the last 20-25 years.
[quote] He hasn't gone the dumb fratboy comedy route or the superhero route, so that's commendable. He could do it in a minute and make millions and millions if he wanted to, but so far he's picked interesting projects instead.
He gets offered his choice of the best projects. He doesn't have to do comic book movies. Those comic book movies are lifeboats for some. He doesn't need that.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||November 28, 2021 5:03 AM|
He could easily do a comic book movie if he wanted to. More people watch those than the films he does do, and it's a young audience.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||November 28, 2021 5:26 AM|
R167 Human ancestors, not homo sapiens.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||November 28, 2021 8:25 AM|
I really can’t see the saga of Jim Jones and The People’s Temple being a 2 - 3 hour movie. A limited series would be best. Otherwise, focus on the last day - particularly Jones’s sermon and pressuring of members to commit “revolutionary suicide”.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||November 28, 2021 10:08 AM|