Continued from Part 2
Who Needs a Vaccine When You Have Thoughts, Prayers, and GoFundMe (Times Three)
|by Anonymous||reply 248||January 24, 2022 11:41 PM|
[quote]"If we had known it would be like that, we would have gotten vaccinated much earlier," said Kyle's mother Eileen Park.
Don't kick yourself, Eileen. How could you possibly have known — a mere eighteen months in — that COVID was real? Who knew? And why didn't anyone ever mention that safe, effective vaccines are available?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 10, 2021 9:09 AM|
If only someone told them!
I mean, the media and government are really keeping this whole virus thing under tight wraps. We don’t hear anything about it. Ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 10, 2021 12:05 PM|
A California police officer died of COVID-19 while he was on leave for not meeting San Francisco’s Nov. 1 vaccination deadline. Freedom!
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 10, 2021 8:07 PM|
It’s not Nyce to make fun, R3.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 10, 2021 8:37 PM|
Where’s the GoFundMe pitch? God is going to be pissed!
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 11, 2021 2:11 AM|
He's sick. Could it be....
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 12, 2021 3:12 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 12, 2021 11:12 AM|
Although it is hard to feel pity, it is easy to feel horrified. Imagine being 27 and a transplant patient for the rest of your life just for the sake of a stupid belief system.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 12, 2021 11:22 AM|
[quote] He's sick.
Well we already know that. He’s absolutely psychol—
Oh, you meant sick, sick.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 12, 2021 12:34 PM|
[quote]Imagine being 27 and a transplant patient for the rest of your life just for the sake of a stupid belief system.
Play stupid games . . .
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 12, 2021 6:07 PM|
I hope he suffers.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 12, 2021 6:12 PM|
Fucked around...found out. I give no shits R8
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 12, 2021 6:38 PM|
I can't even
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 13, 2021 3:05 AM|
He's a graduate of a bootcamp for Korean-American "Christ-ambassadors" whose end goal is a theocracy.
[quote]Student activism. Vietnam War. Sexual revolution. Hippie movement. This was the 1960’s in America. The core leaders of that generation launched a war on mainstream Judeo-Christian culture. [quote]Their efforts, known as the counterculture movement, shifted American society radically away from its Biblical roots. [quote]Today those young men and women of the counterculture generation are in positions of power and influence in government, education, media, business, arts, and entertainment, affecting not just America but the nations of the world. [quote]There is a great need for godly leaders to be at the forefront of the major forces that are shaping our world. Taking back our culture will not happen overnight. But we need to start now in training leaders who will take over these major forces for God’s Kingdom. This is GLDI’s goal. And this is why we need your support.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 13, 2021 3:05 AM|
[quote]Anti-Vaccine Doctor Who Called Mask Wearing 'Dangerous' Dies of COVID-19
There's some irony for you right there.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 13, 2021 6:08 AM|
New sorryantivaxxer.com hotness (might be my favorite so far)
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 13, 2021 6:16 AM|
[quote]It was a bit overwhelming for the family to hear from [Kyle’s] doctors about how tough and long the battle ahead is going to be.
I’ll take that as confirmation that there was no talking to the family, so the original hospital went the “that’s a question you’ll have to ask the transplant team” route. Good for them.
Also, this weekend’s marching orders have been issued. Pray for:
[quote] -wisdom & favor for Kyle’s new medical team
[quote] -Kyle to make significant progress quickly
[quote] -much favor in this whole lung-transplant process
[quote] -Kyle to grow deeper in his love, dependence and obedience to God
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 13, 2021 6:55 AM|
We need to do what Singapore is doing. If you refuse the vaccine, you have to cover your medical expenses if you are hospitalized for Covid-19. Medicare should be denied to anyone who refuses the vaccine and other Healthcare coverage should also unless there is a valid medical exemption. Kick religious exemptions out the door.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 13, 2021 7:02 AM|
Michelle started off sounding like a run-of-the-mill Teal Swan/Barbara Snow frauloon with the Satanic Mormons stuff, but then she somehow went leaps and bounds beyond that.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 13, 2021 7:10 AM|
[quote]It was a bit overwhelming for the family to hear from [Kyle’s] doctors about how tough and long the battle ahead is going to be.
Oh, I know what they mean. The recovery for me from the vaccine was a tough and long battle as well. I mean, it took almost two whole days for the injection site discomfort to go away. It most certainly was an arduous battle, but I made it, harrowing as it was.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 13, 2021 3:07 PM|
Dr. Christopher Foley displayed the typical Trumper loon traits - older male, gray goatee, mirrored sunglasses, and denial of reality.
[quote] Passed away peacefully on October 15, 2021 after an unexpected illness.
Even his obituary tries to cover up his Covid death.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 13, 2021 3:28 PM|
[quote] Passed away peacefully
So none of these people passed away kicking and screaming?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 13, 2021 3:43 PM|
R16 Michelle was an A List Loon of the first order.
The more one learns about anti vaxxers the more apparent it seems that an awful lot of them are mentally ill.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 13, 2021 4:11 PM|
[quote] …after an unexpected illness.
What morons. “How did that happen?”
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 13, 2021 5:50 PM|
Ericksen told KIRO radio he was “fighting a bad bout” with the virus while in the Central American country.
A fierce critic of Gov. Jay Inslee’s emergency pandemic orders — including the recent vaccine mandates — Ericksen this year sponsored legislation to protect the rights of people who won’t get vaccinated.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 14, 2021 1:44 PM|
[quote] Although it is hard to feel pity, it is easy to feel horrified. Imagine being 27 and a transplant patient for the rest of your life just for the sake of a stupid belief system.
I agree, it's hard to feel pity. It's almost ridiculous how in each post his family requests prayers for different issues connected to severe covid, "please pray for no long term damage to vocal cords or voice due to intubation". "pray for the right set of lungs to become available", etc. The vocal cord damage issue and the need for new lungs could have been avoided had been vaccinated. If the perfect set of donor lungs become available, I wouldn't be surprised if his entitled dumb fuck family gives no mention or thought to the donor's family losing a loved one.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 15, 2021 2:03 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 15, 2021 2:08 AM|
That's karma, to be stuck in a 3rd world country with Covid and now you are begging for monoclonal antibody treatment. As the article said, how is he going to get it? It's not something you can routinely send through Fed Express. And it has to be given in a timely manner, like ASAP.
The ignorance of some people astounds me but why must they live here?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 15, 2021 4:03 AM|
One of the comments from that, r28...
"Send those monoclonal antibodies via USPS. I hear they’re in fine running order. Oh wait…"
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 15, 2021 4:55 AM|
"Tamara Drock died Friday, 12 weeks after being admitted to Palm Beach Gardens Medical Center."
The GoFundMe page, created Oct. 6, has raised $10,000 of its $150,000 goal.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 16, 2021 4:59 PM|
Might as well shit in her mouth for all the good ivermectin does.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 16, 2021 5:07 PM|
I’m certainly not one to feel any sympathy toward hospitals and their money making objectives, but in the case outline in r30, I can see the hospital is between a rock and a hard place. I mean, what can they do? I see a scenario where the knucklehead husband sue they hospital saying they caused his wife’s death because they didn’t give her ivermectin. And if the hospital gives in and giver her ivermectin and she still dies, he sues because they gave her someone that doesn’t work.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 16, 2021 5:15 PM|
If they don't want the treatment the hospital has to offer, WHY DO THEY GO TO THE HOSPITAL???
If the treatment they want is ivermectin, they can do that at home.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 16, 2021 5:32 PM|
[quote] I see a scenario where the knucklehead husband sue they hospital saying they caused his wife’s death because they didn’t give her ivermectin. And if the hospital gives in and giver her ivermectin and she still dies, he sues because they gave her someone that doesn’t work.
I’m not a medical malpractice attorney, but I would tend to believe had the doctors given her ivermectin, in spite of the warnings and contraindications, the family would sue them for negligence and malpractice and possibly have a very good case.
The doctors know they shouldn’t prescribe that but did it anyway?
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 16, 2021 8:39 PM|
R34, they didn’t prescribe it.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 16, 2021 8:42 PM|
Yes, I know that.
Re-read the last part I quoted. That poster said “…IF the hospital gives in and giver her ivermectin…”
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 16, 2021 9:09 PM|
Speaking of ivermectin and doctors, a family of a guy in Texas is suing so this suspended doctor can administer ivermectin to him as a treatment. The guy's family has a GFM which post after the story.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 17, 2021 4:41 AM|
The GFM for the family who wants the husband and father to be treated with ivermectin. He has been hospitalized since late September. They have a 50 k goal, I honestly hope the hospital goes after and tries to most of the medical expenses paid from this family. While I have plenty of sympathy for families who have been wrecked financially due to medical bills due to non-covid health issues or accidents. I no longer have sympathy for families like this guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 17, 2021 4:59 AM|
6 kids and 6 weeks in a coma. I hope they like sharing ramen noodles
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 17, 2021 5:07 AM|
Two of the six kids are adults. The gofundme says he's the sole provider, I'm guessing the wife maybe hasn't worked in years. Who knows. There are bunch of pro-ivermectin people posting comments on the gofundme page. If the guy dies, there will be floods of comments blaming the hospital and others for not giving the ivermectin.
Even if this guy Whether the guy lives or dies, his family is going to be fucked financially for years to come.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 17, 2021 8:02 PM|
Your prayers worked!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 18, 2021 8:37 PM|
[quote] "She was planning on getting vaccinated before she left Florida, but she ran out of time,"
Why do they all spout this bullshit?
Then again, I suppose I understand. I mean, 11 months is really too short a span of time to fit a potentially life-saving vaccine into your busy schedule.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 18, 2021 8:42 PM|
R42 she had to go to bingo!!
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 18, 2021 8:46 PM|
r41 Her first words -- "You were going to bury me under that piece of shit?"
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 18, 2021 10:41 PM|
Now they've got Kyle making videos. This should be required viewing for anyone who screams that it's only the Olds and the Fats who have to worry about serious illness.
If the need for a double-lung transplant isn't enough to convince them, maybe the sound of a 27-year-old trying to navigate a speaking valve while the secretions state their boundaries will.
The media's chosen imagery — obese elder silently slumbering on a vent — is too easy to dismiss.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 18, 2021 11:15 PM|
[quote] Why do they all spout this bullshit?
[quote] Then again, I suppose I understand. I mean, 11 months is really too short a span of time to fit a potentially life-saving vaccine into your busy schedule.
I think they spout the bullshit as an attempt to save face. But's lame as fuck because she's over 65 and has pre-existing conditions and she might have qualified for vaccination in the late winter and early spring in Florida. The whole "she ran out of time in Florida" is so lame as fuck,
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 19, 2021 1:16 PM|
[quote]Now they've got Kyle making videos. This should be required viewing for anyone who screams that it's only the Olds and the Fats who have to worry about serious illness.
[quote] The media's chosen imagery — obese elder silently slumbering on a vent — is too easy to dismiss.
If Kyle's story got national attention, it might jar more people into getting vaccinated and realizing even unvaccinated thing people could get severe covid illness and end up with life long problems which will be case for Kyle gets a lung transplant survives.
There's this story in Minnesota about a unvaccinated teacher who is now critical care. His sister who is running the gofundme and posting on social media is spouting the whole "he's a healthy guy, hardly ever sick" line. These idiots don't get that not every unvaccinated person who gets severe covid has underlying medical conditions or is overweight or obese. There was a thread on the Herman Caine subreddit sometime back about a personal trainer who died of covid and someone on there made some kind of comment like "Covid doesn't always give a fuck if someone is fit and healthy".
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 21, 2021 3:42 AM|
^I meant to type "which will be the case for Kyle if he gets a lung transplant and survives".
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 21, 2021 3:45 AM|
R47 to be fair, they also don't think having multiple chins is an underlying health condition. How many GFM's have we seen where it says "he/she was always healthy" and the photo is of someone who at least a 4X?
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 21, 2021 3:49 AM|
R49 Yeah, I have noticed that as well. One of the past threads, there was a gofundme for a obese couple somewhere in the South who died of covid. The family said both of them were healthy and had no underlying medical conditions.
I had a great aunt who was obese for a most of her adult life. She was a delusional toxic narcissist type who never considered herself to be unhealthy even though she had heart condition, diabetes, and other issues in her later life.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 21, 2021 4:10 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 21, 2021 4:22 AM|
[quote]Kyle was able to enjoy some solid foods for a few days but unfortunately had to pause due to a lot of coughing and mucous secretions.
[quote]He noticed more shortness of breath the past few days and had an episode where his blood oxygen dropped pretty low until they were able to suction out a mucous plug in his trach tube.
[quote]Please pray that Kyle won’t have any further issues with shortness of breath and that his new arterial line won’t bleed as much.
[quote]Let us continue to trust in God's plan and perfect timing!
God's plan appears to have a few glitches.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 23, 2021 1:46 AM|
No. God don’t make no mistakes. That’s how he got to be god.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 23, 2021 1:52 AM|
Is gods plan to torture Kyle first? Gee, what a benevolent god you believe in.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 23, 2021 1:53 AM|
As you know, my plan all along was for you to make a vaccination appointment on March 29th, the day they became available to your age group. I told you THEN, so I wouldn't have to wash my hands of you NOW.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 23, 2021 2:01 AM|
Kyle's family clearly can't accept that he's going to have various long term health issues due to the severe covid and the treatments he's had for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 23, 2021 4:03 AM|
R56 it's because they didn't give him the horse wormjuice! He would've been fine!
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 23, 2021 4:10 AM|
Attendees at an anti-vaxx COVID summit now sick with COVID.
“I have been on ivermectin for 16 months, my wife and I,” Dr. Bruce Boros declared at the end of the meeting. “I have never felt healthier in my life.”
Two days later, the 71-year-old cardiologist fell ill with COVID-19.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 23, 2021 12:49 PM|
Giggles and laughs.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 23, 2021 2:54 PM|
[quote[Attendees at an anti-vaxx COVID summit now sick with COVID.
LOL, as people used to say!
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 23, 2021 8:21 PM|
Karma: Unvaccinated former GOP Vice Chair of the Wayne Co (MI) Bd of Supervisors William Hartman is on a ventilator this Thanksgiving with covid. He refused to verify the 2020 election, said covid was “hullabaloo,” and compared mandates to Nazi Germany.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 26, 2021 4:15 AM|
[quote]Karma: Unvaccinated former GOP Vice Chair of the Wayne Co (MI) Bd of Supervisors William Hartman is on a ventilator this Thanksgiving with covid. He refused to verify the 2020 election, said covid was “hullabaloo,” and compared mandates to Nazi Germany.
Are the Hullabaloo Dancers providing bedside entertainment for him?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 26, 2021 4:42 AM|
They're appearing nightly in his oxygen-deprived fever dream.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 26, 2021 12:54 PM|
Anti-vaxxer televangelist dies. I think you can guess what he died from
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 30, 2021 10:21 PM|
"Meanwhile, the Canadian government has yet to procure even a single piece of evidence showing that the injections do anything beneficial for people’s health.
There are no trials to show that the jabs stop either infection or transmission. In fact, there is no evidence to even back the widespread government claim that the shots help to prevent severe symptoms, which is evidenced by Niesing’s untimely death."
|by Anonymous||reply 65||December 1, 2021 12:48 AM|
Dumb antivaxxer Maine State legislator, who lost antivaxxer wife to Covid, resigns State House seat.
[quote] In his letter to House Speaker Fecteau, Johansen said his wife's dedication to the family farm allowed him to serve in the Legislature and that he no longer has the time to manage both duties. He said the decision was difficult because of the ongoing fight against what he described as the expansion of state power during the pandemic.
This guy still hasn’t publicly acknowledged that his wife died of Covid, and hasn’t even published an obituary for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||December 1, 2021 1:11 AM|
[quote]Anti-vaxxer televangelist dies. I think you can guess what he died from.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||December 1, 2021 2:09 AM|
[quote]Anti-vaxxer televangelist dies. I think you can guess what he died from
|by Anonymous||reply 68||December 1, 2021 2:31 AM|
[quote] Anti-vaxxer televangelist dies. I think you can guess what he died from.
Shame, for a start.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||December 1, 2021 2:37 AM|
More about the televangelist asshole
|by Anonymous||reply 70||December 1, 2021 4:43 AM|
Not that I want him to be, but that televangelist is smelling a whole bakery of cookies!
|by Anonymous||reply 71||December 1, 2021 5:37 PM|
It seems like the biggest risk for Covid death is having one of those douchy little Van Dyke beards.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||December 1, 2021 7:43 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 73||December 1, 2021 11:08 PM|
The goatee (preferably salt-and-pepper toned), the backwards cap (preferably MAGA), the sunglasses and the big belly... all add up to an easy target!
|by Anonymous||reply 74||December 1, 2021 11:40 PM|
MAGA: making America great again... one COVID-19 death at a time.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||December 1, 2021 11:53 PM|
Man and his 12 year old daughter are hospitalized with covid. The daughter was scheduled to get vaccinated. The dad hadn't been vaccinated. The mother is pregnant and another daughter said that the dad promised to get vaccinated before the baby was born, but hadn't yet. That's pretty stupid especially since he could have been vaxxed months ago. They have a gofundme. I feel bad for the 12 year old, not so much for the dad.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||December 2, 2021 1:31 AM|
I'm feeling sorry for the maggots and flies.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||December 2, 2021 10:16 PM|
So precisely how did goatees and Oakley sunglasses become a COVID prerequisite?
|by Anonymous||reply 78||December 2, 2021 10:46 PM|
Kyle doesn't have a spot on the list yet, but he does have a new template. Each paragraph now goes: bad news-bad news-bad news-prayer request.
[quote]Thank you for your continued support and prayers for Kyle. Last week, he had a couple of procedures done and had to rest more but is still taking small steps in the right direction. His labs showed that there are blood and lung infections that are being treated with antibiotics and antifungals. After six tries, his team was finally able to find a good vein to place an IV in and take out his PICC line to minimize any invasive lines. His temperature reached 100 due to infection but thankfully has subsided now. [bold]Please pray that God will protect Kyle and that these medications will treat his infections.[/bold]
[quote]Through another bronchoscopy, Kyle's doctors saw some irritation that was causing some bloody mucous from his tracheostomy tube. They cauterized the area and switched out his tracheostomy tube to a shorter one to minimize irritation. They did a third bronchoscopy to remove more mucous from his lungs. In addition, the suture for his right chest tube was ripped, so his team will monitor to see if they will need to insert another chest tube later. Through an ultrasound, they found some blood clots near his collarbone, so his team is trying to find the balance between avoiding blood clots and bleeding and deciding when to give him blood thinners. [bold]Please pray that Kyle will be protected from both of those issues.[/bold]
[quote]Kyle was having shortness of breath and lower blood oxygen levels, so his team switched out the oxygenator for his ECMO machine. It's crazy to believe that Kyle's been on ECMO for 73 days now! Whenever his blood oxygen levels are low, they put the ventilator back on his trach tube to allow him to rest. His doctors said his latest chest x-ray shows that his right lung is more closed off which might be causing his shortness of breath. [bold]Please pray that Kyle will be able to breathe easier without the help of a ventilator.[/bold]
[quote]Kyle’s speech therapist did another x-ray swallow test to evaluate him and found that he no longer has a severe swallowing problem and can have liquids or soups along with his tube feeding. His doctors want to be careful and prioritize his physical therapy before moving back to regular food. Despite everything going on, Kyle was able to walk in the hallway of the unit while taking two breaks. They said he walked about 120 feet in total! [bold]Please pray that Kyle will regain the weight and strength he needs to reach his goals for physical therapy to get listed soon![/bold]
|by Anonymous||reply 79||December 2, 2021 11:08 PM|
It's almost like the prayer warriors thing is pure horseshit or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||December 3, 2021 1:37 AM|
R73, nothing says "I'm a rebel" like making your elderly father sick
|by Anonymous||reply 81||December 3, 2021 1:42 AM|
Kyle's family pretty much rolls out a prayer wish list with each update. They could keep simple, but saying something "Please pray for overall improvement in his condition". Around 2010, a friend's nephew was paralyzed in a car accident. My friend ran a private Facebook group to update on his nephew's condition. My friend and his sister (nephew's mom) come from a religious family and their father was a pastor and another sibling is a pastor. The updates my friend and his sister posted would occasionally ask for prayers, but it was simple in the sense that they just hoped the nephew would adjust to his situation and remain in the best health possible. They rarely posted anything where they asked for different prayer requests for different problems.
I think there are religious people who can easily accept that not everything will completely go their way, but just want hope and strength to deal with what they are dealing with. Then there are people like Kyle's family that have their long prayer wish lists and don't seem to accept he might not recover in the way they hope he does.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||December 4, 2021 2:52 AM|
Can't these people find a way to die more quickly and inexpensively? I mean, it is hunting season.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||December 4, 2021 3:12 AM|
“You have a sound mind!” Feuerstein preached in a sermon five months ago. “You don’t have to wear a mask! You got Jesus. You don’t need the vaccine! You got Jesus.”
But it appears Jesus ain't got the Rev.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||December 6, 2021 7:17 PM|
[quote]But it appears Jesus ain't got the Rev.
I'm so shocked that the reverend is fat.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||December 6, 2021 7:22 PM|
The denial train rolls on. Kyle has bleeding of obscure origin and has required two bronchoscopies in four days to suction the stew from his lungs. Aspergillus and candida have also set up shop and he needs a circuit, oxygenator, and cannula change today. The cannulation site might have to be moved as well.
And here’s what the family has to say:
[quote]After Kyle is able to recover tomorrow [today, that is; same day as the procedure], we hope to see him keep up the good work in physical therapy.
Yes, I’m sure he’ll be up and leading the ECMO train on a half-marathon through the hallways before Hannity starts.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||December 6, 2021 8:13 PM|
"They didn't even have any underlying health conditions!"
Photo on GoFundMe: -everyone is wearing a 4X shirt
|by Anonymous||reply 87||December 6, 2021 8:19 PM|
So is one conscious on an ECMO machine? What physical therapy are they talking about at r86?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||December 6, 2021 8:48 PM|
There's intense physical therapy of all kinds in preparation for a lung transplant. Prior to COVID it was more common for people to have a long period of deterioration in which to prepare. When it would become apparent that transplantation was in the cards, they'd have some time to get themselves into shape by exercising on their own at home as well as regular PT visits.
With COVID patients in need of a transplant, they've basically potatoes. They've been ventilated and bedridden for long periods of time and then been parked on ECMO for stretches previously unheard of. Now matter how healthy/athletic they were going in, they end up in horrendous shape with massive inflammation, malnutrition, postextubation dysphagia, severe muscle wasting, and neurological issues — all of which need to be resolved before they can be considered for a spot on the list.
And, yes, a lot of ECMO patients are conscious, talking, and walking. It requires people to push the machinery; people to make sure nothing gets unplugged; people to monitor the patient and cannulation site; people to watch the levels, etc.
You can see what a circus it is in the video below and also get an idea of why fully staffed ECMO beds are hard to come by. Each ECMO patient requires an insane level of around-the-clock care and monitoring.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||December 6, 2021 9:57 PM|
I just did a double take. For a second there I thought the title of this thread read, "Who Needs Vivian Vance When You Have..."
|by Anonymous||reply 90||December 7, 2021 2:19 AM|
Thank you, r89. Who would choose that over a vaccine???
|by Anonymous||reply 91||December 7, 2021 2:53 AM|
Large numbers of people, apparently...
|by Anonymous||reply 92||December 7, 2021 3:13 AM|
[quote] Thank you, [R89]. Who would choose that over a vaccine???
|by Anonymous||reply 93||December 7, 2021 2:26 PM|
Anti-vaxxer Republican who refused to certify the election results dies from Covid
|by Anonymous||reply 94||December 10, 2021 3:29 AM|
[quote]Anti-vaxxer Republican who refused to certify the election results dies from Covid.
A life filled with stupid choices.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||December 10, 2021 5:33 AM|
Unvaccinated Michigan man Clive Ellis hospitalized for his SECOND Covid infection.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||December 11, 2021 1:12 AM|
Latest update on Kyle. He got on the transplant list and less than 24 hours later, the transplant team got a call about potential set of lungs. His asshole family clearly doesn't give a fuck that the potential donor's family and friends are dealing with a loss right now as there's no mention of "Please pray for the family of the person", or anything along those lines.
[quote] Less than 24 hours after getting officially listed yesterday, Kyle was informed by his transplant team today that they got a call for a potential offer! Tomorrow, the surgeon will need to go evaluate the lungs to see if the condition is acceptable to their high standards. If everything looks good, they would be able to perform the surgery tomorrow around 4 PM! We are so shocked and surprised at how quickly the turnaround was after just updating everyone about Kyle getting listed. Everything is happening so quickly, but we know that God is in control and is answering all of our fervent prayers. Would you please pray that these lungs are healthy and in excellent condition? If it is God's will for everything to work out tomorrow, please pray for the surgeon who will perform the long surgery and Kyle's recovery. May it be successful and without any complications. His transplant team informed us early on that there could be many emotional ups and downs when there are offers that don't end up being accepted. If the lungs don't end up being good enough, may we continue to trust God and be patient until Kyle can get his new set of lungs!
|by Anonymous||reply 97||December 12, 2021 11:16 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 98||December 12, 2021 11:29 PM|
[quote]please pray for the surgeon who will perform the long surgery
Someone remind them that the surgeon (and everyone else in the room) will be wearing face masks
|by Anonymous||reply 99||December 12, 2021 11:31 PM|
[quote]We are so shocked and surprised at how quickly the turnaround was after just updating everyone about Kyle getting listed.
Thank you, Jesus, for killing a donor right away!
|by Anonymous||reply 100||December 12, 2021 11:51 PM|
Any news on the lungs? I’m shocked they became available so soon. Lungs are very difficult to obtain. I know two people who died (not of Covid) waiting on the lung transplant list.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||December 13, 2021 12:56 AM|
The problem is that of the small percentage of registered organ donors who end up with brain-stem death, only ~20% have lungs fit to donate.
Ex vivo lung perfusion can salvage some, but only if they were right on the edge of being suitable for donation to begin with.
With those marginal lungs, transplant pulmonologists/surgeons are put in a position where there are no good options, so most tend to take the conservative approach. I doubt very much that Kyle will get a set on his first go-round.
And while we're on their lack of concern for the donor, what about Kyle's KOVID-kasualty dad? Remember him? It was "he died" then he was never mentioned again.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||December 13, 2021 1:51 AM|
^^Make that "fit to transplant" and "suitable for transplantation." I'm obviously in need of a brain transplant tonight.
You can donate a dozen stained caftans covered in cat hair to DL's Christmas auction, but if no one bids on them...
|by Anonymous||reply 103||December 13, 2021 2:07 AM|
Thanks r102. I always wondered why it was that lungs were harder to come by in transplants. Hearts and livers are more accessible—livers because you can actually donate a portion of your own if you’re a match—it grows back.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||December 13, 2021 2:11 AM|
R101 This was the most recent update. Lungs weren't acceptable and of course, they have put out their prayer request for lungs in perfect condition.
[quote] About two hours ago, the surgeon was able to examine the donor lungs in person and found them to be in poor condition and not acceptable for the transplant, unfortunately. Please pray that another offer will come quickly and for the lungs to be in perfect condition for Kyle. We will continue to wait and trust in God's perfect timing!
|by Anonymous||reply 105||December 13, 2021 2:38 AM|
I feel horrible for sort of wishing Kyle doesn’t get lungs. My two friends upthread who died waiting for lungs did everything right. Their lungs went due to auto-immune diseases, not because they refused a life-saving vaccine. I feel that healthy lungs should go to someone who at least was smart enough to get vaccinated. I know that it’s not based on that criteria (I think they even accept ex-smokers), but geez, he’s in this situation because of obstinance and stupidity.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||December 13, 2021 2:43 AM|
[quote]Lungs weren't acceptable and of course, they have put out their prayer request for lungs in perfect condition.
The roller coaster has left the gate.
Please pray that God will immediately cause a young organ donor of Kyle's blood and HLA type to become brain dead. Please pray that this donor is extremely healthy and that God cuts them down in the prime of life. Please pray that their lungs will be the perfect size for Kyle's thoracic cavity. Please pray that this donor arrives in their state of brain-stem death with minimal damage to their lungs and absolutely no pulmonary edema.
Please pray that God will grant the parents the wisdom and discernment needed to remove their child from life support quickly and without drama so that we can enjoy Christmas with Kyle and his new lungs.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||December 13, 2021 5:16 AM|
"Unfortunately, with the vaccine now being pushed on increasingly younger age groups, we could well see even more cases of myocarditis. It is believed to be behind at least some of the recent high-profile incidents involving athletes collapsing on the field, and it is important for anyone who experiences the symptoms of myocarditis to get checked immediately – especially if they have had a COVID-19 vaccine."
|by Anonymous||reply 108||December 13, 2021 5:21 AM|
Bye, bye, antivaxxer troll @R108. Vaccinedeaths.com? Really??
|by Anonymous||reply 109||December 13, 2021 5:22 AM|
Please pray to Our Lord and Savior that all these anti-vaxxers and their families JUST FUCKING DIE RIGHT NOW AND GET THIS OVER WITH INSTEAD OF CLOGGING UP OUR HOSPITALS AT A MILLION DOLLARS A POP JUST BECAUSE THEY REFUSED A SIMPLE, EFFECTIVE AND FREE VACCINATION.
Lord, Hear Our Prayer.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||December 13, 2021 5:57 AM|
The word of Saint Patsy of Hello! Magazine.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||December 13, 2021 10:30 AM|
R110, that was perfect!
|by Anonymous||reply 112||December 14, 2021 1:17 AM|
R108, did you make a wrong turn on your way to Stupidville?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||December 14, 2021 1:19 AM|
[quote] Unvaccinated Michigan man Clive Ellis hospitalized for his SECOND Covid infection.
With a name like Clive, he didn’t stand a chance anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||December 14, 2021 2:16 PM|
Wonder if the wife will be stuck with legal debts.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||December 14, 2021 10:42 PM|
After two months on some combination of MV, ECMO, and CRRT; cecal perforation and ensuing large bowel resection; thirty-minute+ oxygen drops into the fifties; assorted clots; sepsis; and multiorgan failure, this unforgettable 39-year-old face from the last thread has finally owned you.
She flew home a few days ago, straight into the arms of Jesus.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||December 14, 2021 10:50 PM|
[quote] cecal perforation
I think I had that once after an exceptionally rough night with a BWC.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||December 14, 2021 10:52 PM|
R116 What she put herself through is truly horrifying. And her husband, as a nurse, knew she wasn’t coming back from this, I don’t care how many prayers he said. All because of some bullshit belief system. Wow.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||December 15, 2021 12:59 AM|
Things change quickly in COVIDville; from the highs of Kyle's Christmas Lungs to the reality of today. His chest tube was blocked by a clot. He's leaking blood like a sieve. And, a week after the ECMO circuit change, the invasive fungal infection is still brewing.
As such, he will require the replacement and repositioning of the chest tube as well as CT angiography to locate the sources of his bleeding. When/if they find those sources, the next step will be threading a catheter through his body to try to close them off. That sometimes starts a game of Whack-a-Mole. Everything in this paragraph opens new entry points for infection.
Worst of all, invasive candidiasis and aspergillosis are frequently fatal in ECMO patients because the machinery keeping them alive, and from which they can't be removed, also extracts the drugs from their blood. It's tricky with antifungals because dosing is so important and resistance is always lurking in the shadows.
But it's the vaccines that are to be feared.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||December 15, 2021 8:31 AM|
Jason Hitch, who was a pivotal part of season 2 of "90 Day Fiancé" has died after complications from COVID-19 ... TMZ has learned.
Jason's sister, Shannon tells us he passed away Tuesday night inside the ICU of a Florida hospital. We're told Jason's family was able to be with him when he died and held his hand in his final moments. Shannon says Jason was not vaccinated and did not have preexisting medical conditions, to the family's knowledge.
Can't find a GoFundMe yet, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||December 16, 2021 4:34 PM|
Gimme a minute, damn it
|by Anonymous||reply 121||December 16, 2021 4:38 PM|
R116 That cunt looks rough for 39.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||December 16, 2021 10:57 PM|
She looked rough when we thought she was 44, and also when we thought she was 40. She can keep getting younger, but she’ll never get older.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||December 16, 2021 11:05 PM|
So Pfizer has applied for emergency use authorization for Paxlovid, its oral pill to treat COVID. So will these Herman Cain nominees refuse the pill as they refuse the vaccine? Will still insist on Ivermectin?
|by Anonymous||reply 124||December 17, 2021 1:35 AM|
We have another Herman Cain award winner
|by Anonymous||reply 125||December 19, 2021 3:02 AM|
There's a popular antivaxxer meme that reads "If your shot works, why do you need mine?"
I feel the same way about prayers — if your prayers work, why do you need mine?
|by Anonymous||reply 126||December 19, 2021 3:18 AM|
Fat ginger antivaxxer neckbeard with four kids, no life insurance and stay at home wifey dies.
YOU MUST SEND THEM MONEY.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||December 19, 2021 3:23 AM|
R127 One income, no insurance, 4 kids.
Can you say Bad Decision Bingo?
|by Anonymous||reply 128||December 19, 2021 3:26 AM|
No gas station sunglasses but at least the neckbeard is there.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||December 19, 2021 3:27 AM|
I still feel Michelle might be the QNut Queen of all the dead antivaxxers.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||December 19, 2021 3:32 AM|
Michelle's story is as nuts as she is.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||December 19, 2021 3:41 AM|
"The most shocking data point of all is the death toll between vaccinated and unvaccinated. The disparity is so dramatic that there is no longer any denying that the jabs are what is killing people, not some “virus” floating around in the air."
|by Anonymous||reply 132||December 19, 2021 3:49 AM|
Go away r132.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||December 19, 2021 3:50 AM|
Ooh papa tooney, we got an antivax LOONY!
|by Anonymous||reply 134||December 19, 2021 3:51 AM|
I'm looking forward to R132 getting the top billing on sorryantivaxxer.com. For once in his/her sad, frustrated life someone will pay attention to him/her.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||December 19, 2021 3:54 AM|
I don't give a fuck about the unvaccinated. It's been a year. Fuck off and die already if that's the path you choose.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||December 19, 2021 3:56 AM|
I bet the relative organizing the GFM at R127 will up the fundraising goal soon once they realize 10k will not cover the funeral and other expenses the guy's wife and kids will have.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||December 19, 2021 6:26 AM|
She hit the Covid Jackpot.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||December 19, 2021 5:43 PM|
The list keeps growing . . .
|by Anonymous||reply 139||December 23, 2021 12:52 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 140||December 23, 2021 11:44 AM|
I do feel sorry for people who can't afford to close their businesses but John Parney did choose not to get vaccinated.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||December 23, 2021 6:23 PM|
[quote]I do feel sorry for people who can't afford to close their businesses but John Parney did choose not to get vaccinated.
"I'd rather die than get vaccinated!"
|by Anonymous||reply 142||December 25, 2021 9:39 PM|
We know how much she likes goatees and mirrored Oakleys, but SARS-CoV-2 also has a thing for this facial expression.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||December 26, 2021 8:24 PM|
Anti-vaxx Podcaster got Covid at a QAnon event
|by Anonymous||reply 144||December 26, 2021 9:40 PM|
NYT editor Carlos Tejada died of a heart attack the day after getting a Moderna booster
On 12/17 New York Times editor Carlos Tejada posted his booster injection selfie on Instagram
On 12/18 his wife announced his death by heart attack via his Twitter account
On 12/22 New York Times published an article regarding his death. The article mentions nothing about the booster shot, even though government health agencies and vaccine manufacturers across the globe are aware of and have reported connections to heart problems following vaccination. Ironically, the article does mention that he contributed to "Pulitzer-winning coverage of the Covid-19 crisis, editing an article about how China had censored online news and opinion about the coronavirus early in the pandemic." Can the irony of that get any deeper? It's an obvious tragedy that he leaves behind a family now. But no mention of an investigation? No mention of the potential cause? He and his family could be a victim of Pharma & Phriends, but there's no mention of pursuing that avenue...
|by Anonymous||reply 145||December 26, 2021 10:37 PM|
[quote]Anti-vaxx Podcaster got Covid at a QAnon event
A perfect storm of stupidity.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||December 27, 2021 12:49 AM|
Anti-vaxxers are so tiresome. it must be exhausting constantly trying to prove how stupid you are.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||December 28, 2021 12:52 AM|
The antivaxxers who gathered in Dallas on December 10th and got sick are saying that they've been infected with anthrax not covid. You can't reason with these people.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||December 28, 2021 3:40 AM|
Oops, anthrax already mentioned in R144's article. Sorry.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||December 28, 2021 3:44 AM|
[quote]The antivaxxers who gathered in Dallas on December 10th and got sick are saying that they've been infected with anthrax not covid.
Fine. Whatever works.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||December 29, 2021 6:53 AM|
Don’t be sorry, r149.
I didn’t read the article so your post told me something I hadn’t known.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||December 29, 2021 1:23 PM|
LOL LOL LOL LOL
|by Anonymous||reply 152||December 29, 2021 6:04 PM|
[quote]Maurizio Buratti died in a Verona hospital less than one month after telling radio listeners he was out mingling in public while seriously ill.
What a barrel of laffs he must have been.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||December 30, 2021 2:42 AM|
Oh Maurizio. How did you manage to live to 61 when you're so gullible?
|by Anonymous||reply 154||December 30, 2021 3:00 AM|
I scheduled my booster for Friday. I was super sick with the flu a couple weeks ago and my doctor told me to wait three weeks before getting the booster, but what’s a couple days. Omicron is freaking me out. I feel like it is March 2020 all over again
|by Anonymous||reply 155||December 30, 2021 3:19 AM|
Thoughts and prayers! I
|by Anonymous||reply 156||December 30, 2021 4:05 AM|
Funny you can't find reports of all these vaccine deaths in a major, reputable news source. Let me guess, R156. The mainstream media are hiding the truth. Of the many millions of vaccine shots that have been administered, there have been adverse reactions and some deaths but I find it really hard to believe the number is anywhere near 400,000. Overall the benefits of vaccines far outweigh the drawbacks. Hope you don't end up like Maurizio, R156, who figured out far too late that he was a sheeple follower of quacks.
If you're a Trumpist, R156, you do know that he's had two shots of covid vaccine plus a booster shot, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 157||December 30, 2021 4:17 AM|
All those right wing 'tards, including Trump, Tucker, Dan Bongino, and the rest, including everyone on the Fox News, are vaxxed to the max. It's only the sheeple they manipulate who are supposed to defend their freedumbs, reject vaccines and masks and die for the cause, like medieval peasants.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||December 30, 2021 4:26 AM|
R156, if you’re a Dumper, we all want you to forego the vaccine. It’s dangerous, I tell ya! Dangerous!
|by Anonymous||reply 159||December 30, 2021 5:00 AM|
Isn't this your fearless leader, R156?
|by Anonymous||reply 160||December 30, 2021 7:47 AM|
Oh look, we have another one with that smug "I'm about to own some libs and you can't stop me, lolz" facial expression to join R143 and R116.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||December 30, 2021 8:58 PM|
[quote] t they've been infected with anthrax not covid.
Did they perchance get handed an anthrax rope by a skinny little runt? That'll do it to ya!
|by Anonymous||reply 162||December 30, 2021 9:11 PM|
The woman at R161 kind of looks like a Cabbage Patch doll
|by Anonymous||reply 163||December 30, 2021 9:31 PM|
She looks obese. Enough said.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||December 30, 2021 11:26 PM|
[quote]She looks obese. Enough said.
Fat and stupid is no way to go through life.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||December 31, 2021 2:33 AM|
Another unvaxxed couple dead of covid. The husband had diabetes and his sister said "he wanted to wait and do more research". I roll my eyes whenever people use the whole "wanted to do more research" crap excuse.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||December 31, 2021 4:17 AM|
Oh, wow, I feel terr—
Hey, look at that! The rain stopped and the sun is coming out. Fantastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||December 31, 2021 1:38 PM|
The woman at r161 looks like she's smelling cookies.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||December 31, 2021 2:26 PM|
[quote]The husband had diabetes and his sister said "he wanted to wait and do more research."
Damn! If only that MacArthur grant had come through in time, he might still be alive today.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||December 31, 2021 6:57 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 170||January 4, 2022 3:36 PM|
The anti-vax DA had a huge forehead.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||January 4, 2022 7:44 PM|
[quote]The anti-vax DA had a huge forehead.
And yet, ironically, apparently had a tiny brain.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||January 4, 2022 9:44 PM|
Idiot antivaxxers everywhere including tennis player Novak Djokovic.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||January 6, 2022 2:15 AM|
Another Herman Cain Award winner
|by Anonymous||reply 174||January 6, 2022 8:55 PM|
But he looks so healthy in that picture!
|by Anonymous||reply 175||January 6, 2022 8:57 PM|
Kuzma broadcast on the FROG network which stands for Fully Rely on God. I guess Kuzma made God mad and He wanted him dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||January 6, 2022 9:06 PM|
I fully rely on god to kill these evil Repugs because they’re too stupid to get a vaccine for a deadly illness.
Every time they get force-fed their own evil words, I say a little prayer of thanks.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||January 6, 2022 9:11 PM|
[quote]Anti-Vax Podcaster Who Got COVID at a Conspiracy Conference Has Died
Have others stepped in to carry on his great work?
|by Anonymous||reply 178||January 6, 2022 9:23 PM|
I kind of want Paxlovid to be delayed so the virus can remove more Republican trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||January 6, 2022 9:27 PM|
How many people are in the hallway on a gurney waiting for a bed while this clown's in the ICU?
|by Anonymous||reply 180||January 7, 2022 3:23 PM|
Well, no one now.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||January 7, 2022 3:30 PM|
Shockingly, he was really quite fat.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||January 7, 2022 7:48 PM|
Another ECMO begging family. Guy has six kids and is on a vent.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||January 9, 2022 2:27 AM|
Omg, R183. Six kids and another on way. I guess it's a safe assumption he isn't vaccinated since he's only 36 years old.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||January 9, 2022 7:53 AM|
“It only kills the olds and those with underlying conditions!!”
Whoops. Guess they were wrong about that.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||January 9, 2022 1:40 PM|
Whitney Houston - Why does it hurt so bad, from Waiting To Exhale soundtrack. This was at her peak.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||January 9, 2022 2:32 PM|
Shit! Sorry, wrong thread again. I’m sleepy.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||January 9, 2022 2:33 PM|
Mr. Rocha, if you survive, it's time for a vasectomy.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||January 9, 2022 5:36 PM|
R185 someone needs to make a shirt "If you have more than one chin, you have an underlying condition you dumb cunt"
|by Anonymous||reply 189||January 9, 2022 5:48 PM|
Teenager loses most of family after she is the only one with the sense to get vaccinated.
“I was the only vaccinated one in my family,” she said. “I told them to go to the hospital and they didn’t listen to me. I knew something bad was going to happen.”
Sara Golembiewski said they all had underlying conditions. Her mother suffered from lupus, hypothyroidism, and diabetes. Her father was obese and suffered from lupus, heart problems, and diabetes. Her aunt also had diabetes and lupus.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||January 9, 2022 5:51 PM|
R186, the title fits in well here.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||January 9, 2022 6:50 PM|
Another Herman Cain Award winner
|by Anonymous||reply 192||January 11, 2022 3:18 AM|
Vaccination doesn't make much of a difference -- except to prevent severe symptoms. But of course you'll all disagree, and get your 4th, 5th, and 6th...and......92nd boosters.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||January 11, 2022 3:25 AM|
r193, and you'll be dead, just like all those right-wing talk radio guys
|by Anonymous||reply 194||January 11, 2022 3:35 AM|
Um, “severe symptoms” like death? You were dropped on your head as a baby, weren’t you?
|by Anonymous||reply 195||January 11, 2022 3:38 AM|
R187. I didn’t realise you had posted on the wrong thread. I thought you were commenting on their pain and breathing difficulties.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||January 11, 2022 3:42 AM|
R193 is a Qcumber.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||January 11, 2022 3:45 AM|
Oh r193, your post was the most idiotic post on DL for a long, long, long, long, long time. Congrats!
|by Anonymous||reply 198||January 11, 2022 4:03 AM|
[quote]Vaccination doesn't make much of a difference -- except to prevent severe symptoms.
Was this supposed to be a joke? Because it may be the stupidest remark I've ever read on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||January 11, 2022 6:33 AM|
[quote] Vaccination doesn't make much of a difference [bold]-- except to prevent severe symptoms.[/bold]
|by Anonymous||reply 200||January 11, 2022 1:09 PM|
Eriksen went to be with Jesus on December 17 2021. I hope his relatives kept the receipts for his Christmas gifties.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||January 11, 2022 3:30 PM|
Nice timing! Jeebus’ birthday was a couple days later. He was there to kick back and celebrate with him with some beer, joints, and porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||January 11, 2022 6:18 PM|
Can they return his Christmas grifts?
|by Anonymous||reply 203||January 11, 2022 7:04 PM|
R198 and friends: Did ANY of you idiots actually READ THE STUDY?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||January 12, 2022 8:22 AM|
Oh we did, r204. And your post. The question is—did YOU read the study? The one that says the vaccines prevent severe illness? The one you posted? The one where you said vaccines don’t make much of a difference? I think the difference between severe and non-severe is pretty great.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||January 12, 2022 1:37 PM|
r193 / r204 Nope... r198 and friends certainly did not read your study as that would be blasphemous to their Branch Covidian Death Cult.
Next time... could you please post about an irresponsible rightwing anti-vaxxer dying and leaving young children behind?
|by Anonymous||reply 206||January 12, 2022 1:38 PM|
Have any porn performers bit it yet? There were a few Trumpers in the bunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||January 12, 2022 2:56 PM|
Mensa has lost another of its members to Covid.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||January 21, 2022 1:01 AM|
Derek passed away unexpectedly early Tuesday morning. Calvin said good night to his dad around midnight, and at 1:30 a.m. Derek went to tell Calvin that an ambulance was on its way, right before collapsing to the floor. Derek died of Cardiac Arrest due to a blood clot, six days after receiving his second Covid-19 vaccine. The vaccine was listed as a secondary cause of death on his death certificate.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||January 21, 2022 1:11 AM|
So sad about the millions who have died from getting the vaccine.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||January 21, 2022 2:20 AM|
Oh, hi, Qcumber @R206!
|by Anonymous||reply 211||January 21, 2022 3:15 AM|
Apologies, meant for the covidiot @R209.^^
|by Anonymous||reply 212||January 21, 2022 3:16 AM|
No fundraiser that I'm aware of, but here's a rare gay (dead) anti-vaxxer in the wild.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||January 21, 2022 12:56 PM|
TMZ is reporting that Meatloaf died of Covid, and that he recently railed against vaccine mandates. Gee, I wonder—was he vaccinated??
|by Anonymous||reply 214||January 21, 2022 1:28 PM|
Meatloaf was most likely vaccinated since he was working on a new TV show.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||January 21, 2022 6:07 PM|
Kyle is still in a holding pattern, but his baseline is dropping from update to update.
[quote]The emotional rollercoaster of potential offers that don't go through has been discouraging for Kyle and he feels more emotionally exhausted after being in the hospital for over four months now.
But at least he didn't have to suffer through 24 hours with a mildly achy arm. There's alway a silver lining.
[quote]Pray that God would open another door for the perfect, healthy set of lungs for Kyle very soon.
Translation: Dear God, please cause a car accident in which the door pops open to provide an unimpeded trajectory for the lungs' disposable packaging as it's ejected headfirst onto the road, causing massive head trauma while leaving the rest of the packaging and its contents untouched. Do this for Kyle. Amen.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||January 21, 2022 9:08 PM|
He was not vaccinated.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||January 22, 2022 1:43 AM|
Meat Loaf is the latest celebrity Covid denier dead from Covid.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||January 22, 2022 5:56 AM|
Same narrative over and over again. Whoever is against it dies from it.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||January 22, 2022 8:34 AM|
Sometimes, I think humanity is genuinely too stupid to survive much longer, or at least a significant portion of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||January 22, 2022 7:23 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 221||January 22, 2022 7:26 PM|
I wish I could R221, starting with every Republican in this country.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||January 22, 2022 7:37 PM|
Another unvaxxed parent dies and leaves behind a bunch of kids.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||January 23, 2022 3:07 AM|
I'd love to have one of those Go Fund Me things and get tens of thousands of dollars! I just have to figure out how I can do it without dying of COVID.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||January 23, 2022 2:26 PM|
Six kids and pregnant with a seventh, but a free vaccine was a bridge too far.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||January 23, 2022 6:17 PM|
A 27-year-old with six children? Was she a member of the Duggar family?
|by Anonymous||reply 226||January 23, 2022 6:31 PM|
[quote]“Me and my wife, we talked about it,” Rico told the Houston TV station. “She was pregnant and so she had some concerns. It all happened so fast and it was being pushed on us very fast and she just didn’t want — she didn’t feel comfortable and so I wasn’t going to go against her wishes.”
On the plus side, she no longer feels uncomfortable.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||January 23, 2022 6:34 PM|
Who the fuck has sis kids by age 27? Have these people not heard of birth control? Christ!
|by Anonymous||reply 228||January 23, 2022 6:42 PM|
^ six not sis
|by Anonymous||reply 229||January 23, 2022 6:42 PM|
And hubby is a lardass too.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||January 23, 2022 6:51 PM|
Jesus needed another angel, but got Crystal Hernandez instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||January 23, 2022 7:31 PM|
Some of these covid related GoFundMes won't cover all the needs the people have.
Kyle's medical bills are going to be a lot more than 250k his family is trying to raise. I feel like an asshole for saying this, but I wish hospitals would try and go after Kyle or the families of unvaxxed deceased people to recoup as much money as possible.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||January 23, 2022 9:29 PM|
It's still too new, and as far as I'm aware there hasn't been a breakdown of ECMO costs specifically for COVID patients awaiting a double-lung transplant, but I can give you an idea of what it cost pre-pandemic:
It was running just over $1.6 million per month for a lung-transplant patient. Back in the good old days of 2019, the average length of stay in the hospital prior to transplant was 35 days, with only about 9 of those on ECMO. It was always meant as a bridge to transplant; never as long-term life support.
Kyle has been on ECMO since mid-September.
Before COVID, most transplant patients had time to prepare themselves. They were at home, exercising and working with physical therapists to get themselves into the best possible condition prior to transplant. We're in new territory with these patients who are lingering on ECMO for months and months; who, if they're lucky, build up to a short daily walk down the hall. Even that is an ordeal for them and they end up exhausted, and worse.
There have always been serious ethical concerns with ECMO and when/how it should be discontinued, but what's happening now is far beyond what prompted those concerns.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||January 23, 2022 10:34 PM|
Thanks r233. I can also say that lungs, unlike hearts and livers, are much rarer re transplants. It was difficult enough before to find compatible lungs, I can’t imagine how much more difficult it is now. I know two people who died on the lung transplant list while waiting.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||January 24, 2022 12:54 AM|
I suppose it’s unethical for them to reserve the lungs for someone who has a genetic disorder that’s beyond their control as opposed to someone suffering from what could have been prevented.
I remember the outcry when Mickey Mantle received a liver transplant. The prevailing attitude was he was a drunk who did it to himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||January 24, 2022 1:04 AM|
Didn't people bitch about Larry Hagman getting a liver transplant?
|by Anonymous||reply 236||January 24, 2022 1:12 AM|
I don’t know, but I’m sure it’s possible. I don’t think Hagman was as much of a public drinker as Mantle was.
Larry was an alcoholic, but most didn’t see him and immediately think “drunk party boy.”
|by Anonymous||reply 237||January 24, 2022 1:16 AM|
Livers are easier to find. For one, you can donate part of your liver to someone who’s compatible—both will grow into full-size livers. I know someone who was a raging alcoholic who received a partial liver transplant from his son. He had to jump through hoops re sobriety, but he was approved in the end.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||January 24, 2022 1:34 AM|
[quote] For one, you can donate part of your liver to someone who’s compatible—both will grow into full-size livers.
Well, I’ll be damned. The stuff you learn on DL, I swear.
I had no idea.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||January 24, 2022 2:56 PM|
Mickey Mantle also had metastatic cancer. He shouldn't have been on the transplant list for that reason, not because he was a recovering alcoholic. Larry Hagman was pretty aggressive about his recovery program and obviously was very successful. He lived a long time with his transplant.
Pulmonary patients can also receive live donor transplants. My colleague's daughter had Cystic Fibrosis. She was able to receive a lung lobe donation from her mother and one from a neighbor who matched.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||January 24, 2022 6:39 PM|
R240, that’s correct, but the lungs obviously don’t grow like the liver does. If you donate a lung, you’re left with one lung. Why can’t a family member donate a lobe to Kyle??
|by Anonymous||reply 241||January 24, 2022 7:25 PM|
One of the big "bridge to nowhere" ECMO cases also involved cancer. It was a teenage boy who was on ECMO awaiting a double-lung transplant for CF. He was good spirits, doing schoolwork, playing video games, talking to his friends, etc. But then he was diagnosed with cancer, which took him out of consideration for a transplant.
There was a fight over what should happen next. One side argued was that he was being kept alive solely by ECMO and as it had only been a bridge to a transplant, not a means of long-term life support, he should be removed from it immediately.
The other side argued that although he was being kept alive by ECMO, his quality of life was such that it warranted keeping him alive. Also, patients receiving dialysis or mechanical ventilation are dependent on machinery and this should be no different.
The first side came back with: if keeping this kid on ECMO is appropriate, why not just put every patient in respiratory failure on it and let them live out their days?
In the end, rather than removing him, they just let it run without performing the normal maintenance. As clots built up inside the oxygenator, it gradually failed and he died.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||January 24, 2022 7:29 PM|
Question…if you’re on ECMO are you conscious? As opposed to being on a ventilator.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||January 24, 2022 8:46 PM|
Since R242 stated the kid was playing video games and doing homework, I believe it is safe to assume you are conscious.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||January 24, 2022 8:48 PM|
Thanks r244, I did see that but wasn’t sure if some are conscious and some are sedated. That has to be pretty crazy to be conscious.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||January 24, 2022 8:50 PM|
That’s horrible r242. Death by negligence? Was the cancer so untreatable?
|by Anonymous||reply 246||January 24, 2022 9:06 PM|
R243, some are sedated to varying degrees; some are wide awake, going for walks, and are completely aware of their situation.
The latter tends to be a huge mindfuck because when non-COVID patients are put on ECMO, they’re suddenly oxygenated to a degree they haven’t experienced in a very long time…or maybe ever.
They feel better than ever, yet they know they’re dying.
R246, that’s the only agreement both sides come to as he would never be able to live outside the ICU. An ECMO patient requires staffing that far exceeds what’s needed for a ventilated patient.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||January 24, 2022 9:20 PM|
R241, you are correct, transplanted lungs don't "grow" like liver tissue. However, live donors donate a lobe (standardly a lower lobe), not an entire lung.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||January 24, 2022 11:41 PM|