Let's discuss all the things we hate about NYC

"Still the best city of the US and possibly the world, though."

I hate the delusion.

35th street between 8th and 9th.

R2 that area is a shithole. My mom came to visit 2 months ago and stayed in a hotel on 40th between 8 and 9th. I made it a point to escort my mother to the fucking door every night I was so freaked about something happening to her..

Ernie Anastos

[quote] Still the best city of the US and possibly the world, though.

What percentage of U.S. cities have you lived in in order to be able to make that comparison? Considering the number of terrible things about living in NYC, there are no doubt better cities to live in.

Honestly , I've spent a significant amount of time in most US major cities except the Texas cities and Atlanta, and IN MY OPINION its the greatest. My god, you're all so prickly.

No washer/dryers and rare dishwashers.

OP In his Memaw's basement.

Loud ass scooters blasting down roads morning and night.

Pushy shoving rude people.

Impatient drivers honking Non-Stop.

Difficult to communicate with people because half the population is from other countries (and they tend to work in jobs where they need to talk to people).

The white people who live here tend to be smug and oh so perfect, so you can't even look down on them like you could if you lived somewhere like West virginia.

NYC is dirty. European capitals are nowhere near this dirty

The subway is over a century old and looks like it. This is supposed to be America's greatest city?

Pathetic

I can agree about the subway system, compared to those of London and Munich.

"Honestly , I've spent a significant amount of time in most US major cities except the Texas cities and Atlanta, and IN MY OPINION its the greatest. My god, you're all so prickly."

You were the one who started the thread about the things we hate about New York. Then, you get pissed when people call you out for saying its the best city. I hate that.

It's really difficult to find a WELL HUNG man in that town.

[quote]My mom came to visit 2 months ago and stayed in a hotel on 40th between 8 and 9th. I made it a point to escort my mother to the fucking door every night I was so freaked about something happening to her..

Are you joking? Because that's one of THE WORST blocks in one of the very few remaining areas in the city -- or, at least, in Manhattan -- that do remain shitholes. If your mother was stupid or cheap enough to stay there, and if you were stupid enough to allow her to do so, then you deserve to have been put out by having to escort her back to her "fucking door" every night.

OP is overstating the climate. NYC typically gets 10-20 days above 90 per year and has days below freezing (often at night) for only about 10 weeks. Temperatures below zero are very rare.

Of course, it’s academic since it’s much cooler in the Hamptons and warmer in St. Barts.

R15 I was thinking the same thing. What idiot would allow his/her mother to stay in such an area.

Manhattan proper - especially downtown - is super-boring, flat and generic now. Everyone is 25, has money and wants to be even richer.

The nasty attitude of city employees throughout, especially in the subways.

Rude people. I've been to numerous crowded cities around the world but I've never encountered the rudeness that I do in NYC

Rude ass people , traffic

Manhattan has become a mall like any other in the US. All the stores are those big chains. What made NYC special, as a place to find unusual items, is gone.

OP is definitely wrong about the climate. There are so many tall buildings here that the city is practically it's own weather system, and it's almost never extreme. There are a few hot weeks in the summer and the winters are very temperate. Spring and Fall are lovely.

[quote] Rude people. I've been to numerous crowded cities around the world but I've never encountered the rudeness that I do in NYC

PFFFFT

I wish NYC had more public bathrooms. It's tough for both tourists and the homeless.

R17 JFC, Excuse me for not knowing it would be that bad.

As far as the weather not being that bad, NYC is a literal subtropical climate. The winters are less severe than the heat to me. But they are still pretty terrible,

The lack of city planning. Garbage set out on the sidewalks? Really bitch? You all are some nasty hoes over there. Do like Chicago and just set that shit on fire to start over.

The smell. The city stinks.

The idiot tourists.

R26- You got that information from Wikipedia. Atlanta Georgia is in a subtropical region. NYC is humid continental.

Garbage on the sidewalks because space is too valuable to waste on alleys. Besides, you know who lurks in alleys? Jack the Ripper, that’s who. No thanks.

R24- A lot of cops are RUDE too.

R31 if your space is valuable then maybe you shouldn’t waste precious walking space on funky garbage.

upstairs neighbors in converted brownstone apartments

winter wind and cold along the Hudson

the subway in summer

Open to suggestions, r31. Tie the trash to large helium balloons? Put it on the roofs and collect it with helicopters?

[quote]As far as the weather not being that bad, NYC is a literal subtropical climate. The winters are less severe than the heat to me. But they are still pretty terrible,

You can keep insisting, but you're obviously as ignorant about this as you were in not realizing what a bad idea it was to let your mother stay in a hotel on 40th Street between Eighth and Ninth avenues.

The stench of NYC in the summer: a putrid aroma of garbage, piss and shit.

All the flyover tourists who walk in packs usually four abreast as if they are marching in a parade leaving no room for anyone to get past them.

R30, You're welcome

And this as well

It’s filthy; even the air feels filthy. I feel like I need to take a shower and wash my clothes after just walking down the street

What has made NYC “subtropical” is milder winters, not hotter summers.

From r40’s link:

[quote] The New York Times recently published a report that revealed the new distinction by the National Climate Assessment. Apparently to classify as subtropical, an area must average summers above 72 degrees Fahrenheit and winters above 27 degrees Fahrenheit. The city has met the former requirement since 1927, and the latter for the past five years on average (with the occasional cold bursts).

True about the odor. When I flew back home from NY as soon as I opened my luggage it smelled like NY and I had to wash everything. Paris smells too, but it's not as permeating, it doesn't stick to clothes/fabrics. I blame that underground/sewer system.

R15, I guess Mom didn't want to leave Port Authority!

[Quote]Loud ass scooters blasting down roads morning and night

YES. I've known people who had to move because they couldn't deal with the noose those bike groups made.

[Quote]No washer/dryers and rare dishwashers.

Yep in NY you are expected to go without in unit laundry and central air. Only the very rich can afford buildings with those "luxuries", which is objectively absurd.

Mama's sellin' her ass at Port Authority while Junior's at work.

R22, Gotta go up the East Side and down to Soho. In between, other than around Rockefeller Center, it's Fuhgeddaboutit.

[quote]Still the best city of the US and possibly the world, though.

I've travelled a lot and always get this weird sense of relief when I leave New York. I wish I felt about it as others do, but it's just an ok city to me that I'm always glad to leave when the time comes.

[quote]Yep in NY you are expected to go without in unit laundry and central air. Only the very rich can afford buildings with those "luxuries", which is objectively absurd.

That is just unacceptable for a major city in the 21st Century.

Honestly that's fair r48. New York is exhausting. It's packed tight and loud and the energy of the city is not for everyone.

Rudest people in America, and yet New Yorkers have the highest opinion of themselves of anyone on Earth and it's hilarious.

Crazy expensive tiny apartments we all consider normal.

I lived in London for many years, so I am used to big city, get out of my way behaviour. I don’t think New York is as bad. The people are warmer. I have to say that I absolutely love New York with a passion. I have been many times and I keep going back for more.

I've been watching the Walking Commuter on youtube and he walks all over the city and across the bridges. I told him the nice thing about is that I can feel like I am on the walk but don't have to have my radar up all the time knowing what is going on all around me so it's relaxing. It's a really nice way to see the city and he has walked by my niece's place and were my Aunt lived before she died.

R53 and 54 don't know what this thread is all about.

Grocery shopping sucks.

Grocery stores are small with limited selection, everything is expensive and often things are expired or will be expiring soon. Gotta be careful.

yes, it's awful to post something so positive in such a negative thread which is what this whole place seems to be coming to.

Mostly I hate the attitude of New Yorkers. Half their problem is they think the attitude is some aspect of impressive. And if the city is making act like an asshole, what does that tell you? Because I'm sure you're actually really lovely.

[quote] Grocery stores are small with limited selection, everything is expensive and often things are expired or will be expiring soon. Gotta be careful.

YES! when I first moved to NYC and saw the tiny grocery stores, I thought WTF! thankfully Whole Foods and Trader Joes have moved in.

What goods does NYC export? Does it have any sort of manufacturing or is it all corporate HQs, finance, and retail? I don't know when I last obtained a product from NYC other than coffee (which was imported from another country)

Does the US in general export anything but weapons any more?

I mean you would have to be pretty crazy to run factories in NYC given the cost of real estate.

For you, R60. Plus art and music.

You don't have to back up by the walls when you're riding the subways. Just be near one of the big metal poles that you can grab onto just in case (or one of arms of the benches for sitting). I learned this when I took the subway to high school when i was a kid.

Why did I strike a nerve with my question? I was just curious. I have some 'antiques' that were made in NY. I think that it would make for a good badge of quality given the city's status

New Yorkers aren't particularly rude, they're just in a hurry to get where they want and while we love our tourists and their money that they bring to the economiy, it's not fun having to have some rush onto the street in front of you and then suddenly slow down to a snail's pace, especially when you are 3 or 4 of you blocking access to get the hell in front of you.

I totally get the tiny grocery store complaints. I swear these people buy a tiny sliver of property and then expect to build a supermarket on it. All of the aisles are built so only anorexics can make it through and you are always bumping asses with people and having to wait 5 minutes till they finally decide what type of peanut butter they want before being able to make it through. Don't even get me started on the bodegas.

Yep r66.

In New York the sideways really are a road. You can't just stop and block traffic, move off to the side when you need to look at your phone. And you need to walk with purpose and keep up with the flow of traffic, and if you're slow make sure people can past you.

Gotta treat the sidewalks like you would a road in the rest of America.

🙊[italic] Let's not and say we did.

I'd love to own a tiny grocery store

The biggest fear was not knowing. Unless you are wealthy, own your place or have a rent controlled or lottery apartment, not knowing how you’d continue to afford it.

You scrimp and save and persevere. You beg, borrow, steal or call in favors to get a certain living and working arrangement so you can be a proud NYer. This type of striving is the very backbone and moral fiber of every person that struggled to finally make it.

I didn’t care I was making essentially the same salary four years in a row and everything was increasing. I didn’t care that when it snowed they’d shut down large swaths of subway and it would take an hour to get to work. I didn’t care about violent attacks in my neighborhood.

Then I saw how miserable my old lady roommate was and decided I didn’t want to grow old in the city. She really was a miserable cunt of a woman with a gorgeous three bedroom in a doorman building off Union Sq. but for all it’s appeal, it’s a restrictive cage. She cannot afford to move and it’s only a matter of time before they’re able to push her out.

When I got married I had an “out” and took it and have no regrets.

How noir. Was that from a Crawford picture?

Oh lord OP why are you stirring the pot and provoking the inevitable onslaught of anti-NY posters who will be rock hard to attack the city??

That being said, to answer your question…

-I hate having to grocery shop without a car. Being aware that you are going to have to carry whatever you buy back home (unless you plan on paying for a cab) can be exhausting and impractical.

-34th street. Period.

-the west 4th street subway station.

-port authority.

-Jay street metro tech area in Brooklyn.

-how expensive it is to cab to/from the airports to Manhattan.

I love it though. Wouldn’t live anywhere else.

The subway stations. No matter which ones. One is never happy to enter them. It's like your spirits sink to your feet any time you do.

R36 Should she have stayed in The Lucerne on the UWS with the homeless?

[Quote]Unless you are wealthy, own your place or have a rent controlled or lottery apartment, not knowing how you’d continue to afford it.

NY is expensive, but many people make it harder on themselves by they live in a cool (ie expensive neighborhood).

You can live in upper Manhattan, live in Queens, live in Jersey. Many places that are relatively more affordable if you are fine with spending more time in transit to get to the cooler places.

Ny is expensive alright.. So are San Francisco and Southern California. I don't know where everybody gets their money but there's a lot of it going around

Living in NYC you ask yourself "where the fuck does all their money come from?" about other people 100 times a day.

The people in New York are CRAZY. I don't know where the normal people lived and hung out but I never met normal people there. A lot of seedy shit goes on, too. Seedy fucking people approaching you in every single place. I also hate the subway and the buses so much. It takes, like, an hour of travel one way plus the time it takes to walk to and from wherever you're going. The groceries are expensive as hell and forget about dining out. The city is majority rich college kids or weird homeless druggies.

[quote]I also hate the subway and the buses so much. It takes, like, an hour of travel one way plus the time it takes to walk to and from wherever you're going.

Idiotic comment.

Yeah there are so many rich people in NY it does blow your mind. You walk past all these super expensive buildings and wonder how all these people can afford it.

R80, how? Everywhere I went took a million years. Not to mention, was expensive as hell.

All the horses just running wild in the streets and shitting everywhere, just like this!

Sorry, R82, but what the FUCK are you talking about. First of all, you were discussing how long it takes to get placed BY BUS OR SUBWAY, so how can traveling that way be "expensive as hell?" And also: It can take a long time to get somewhere by bus because of -- DUH!!!! -- all the traffic in NYC, but you can travel very long distances by subway very quickly for the cost of one fare.

Yeah complaining about the subway is par for course, but honestly it's cheap, runs 24/7, and a efficient way to get around a lot of the city.

R85, god knows we all have our major complaints about the subway, but to say that it takes a long time to get anywhere on the subway is just plain stupid.

$4 per ride on the subway is not cheap to me. Neither was the week-long pass when I lived there. You girls must be making a lot of dough to not resonate with that.

New York has lost its charm. Now, it's all chain stores and restaurants, catering to the family. The bohemians have moved out.

You can hop on the subway and go from Harlem to nearly the border of Long Island for 2.75, that's cheap r87. Imagine how much a cab/uber would be.

If you get a monthly unlimited that is 127, much cheaper than the cost of a car.

Crazy people trying to push strangers in front of subway trains.

Bus lanes and Bicycle Lanes

$4 subway rides? A subway ride is $2.75, and you can get rides for a lot less than that if you’re doing a lot of traveling and buy an Unlimited MetroCard.

The worst thing about riding the subway is waiting on the platform for a train that runs every 8 minutes or something like that, except it’s LATE, and you’ve just missed the train by a minute, and now you’re waiting 13 minutes or something for the next one. Dear lord I loathe the G train. Running or speed walking through stations and up several flights of stairs to make a connecting train is even worse. Because god forbid you just miss the next train and have to wait another 10 minutes. I’ve wasted so much of life just waiting on the damn subway platforms here.

Which brings me to the subtropical climate… I’m only going to say this once, folks: it’s not the heat, it’s the humidity. I don’t care how few days in any given summer actually get above 90 degrees. Do you know how many days the HEAT INDEX makes the air feel like it’s between 90 and 100 degrees? Because that’s what really matters in the summer. 85 degrees is nothing if the humidity is something like 45%. But if the humidity is 85% on an 85-degree day, guess what—it’s going to feel closer to 95 than 85.

Anyone who doesn’t think the summers have gotten more humid and unbearable in NYC since the planet started heating up, is obviously someone who lives in air conditioning, doesn’t take the subway, and doesn’t actually look at what their phone’s weather app is telling them.

What else do I hate about this place? It’s Basic Bitch Central. All the cool mom and pop stores are gone. This city just isn’t interesting or gritty anymore. Even compared to 2010, it’s lame. Not sure it’s worth staying. To anyone thinking of moving here, I would say—why?

Rich kids living off of trust funds or their parents have taken over. Basic Bitch Central, indeed. People like that are the most annoying and boring people on Earth. But no other kinds of young people can afford the city now. It's awful.

Leave me and my friends out of this, R93!! Clearly you're from Darkest Flyoverstan.

Rich people in New York? Who could have imagined?

r95 of course rich people have always lived in NY, but now that's all there is. As Fran Lebowitz said "a city with nothing but rich people is not really a city. It's boring."

Stupid comment, R95.

R92.."It's not the heat, it's the humidity"

Finally someine gets it.

I've only spent a week in NYC, which for me was enough. It's exciting and cool but I definitely couldn't ever live there.

The constant car horn honking and sirens all hours of the day and night were probably the most annoying thing to me.

I was actually quite surprised at how grubby and basic the subway is.

Obviously, it's expensive - almost goes without saying.

The streets were really dirty, loads of litter everywhere.

People are rude, yes, though I might say brusque, but they are not unhelpful or cold. They just have so little time, there's no time for anything but the matter at hand.

What is annoying are those newbies who come and try too hard to be cool. Boring. You know they are bound to go back to the suburbs.

Lastly, you need to be a bit neurotic to be a nyer.

I hate how the city has destroyed so much of its history. For a city that’s nearly 400 years old (which is about as old as you’re going to get in the U.S.), New York has little to offer in terms of historical charm. It tore down most of its buildings of historic interest (its two executive mansions, the old Federal Hall, etc.) and it demolished many of its impressive monumental structures (the old Penn Station, many of the old robber baron mansions, etc.). And although I know many people love the skyline, I’ve always thought it was a bit of a mess, particularly with all of the new god awful ugly skyscrapers that have been built in the last decade or so.

A certain NYC flavor has been gone for a long time. I think the death knell came in the early 90s when rent for even a tiny apartment hit the $1500 mark. Now it's all financiers, or bougie creatives in commercially successful endeavors.

Odd because even in the 1980s, NYC was expensive. We shared rooms, lived in far out borough neighborhoods and ate pizza and a soda for $2. I would be curious to see data of how it compares now. Is it perhaps just that younger people don’t want to bunk up or just eat pizza? Or that they see spending so much on phones and Instagrammable food as “essentials” that we didn’t have? Does a store clerk or damn assistant make much less relative to rent now?

It does seem like downtown Manhattan is filled with rich kids. But so was the UES in the 1980s. Just that downtown has now become the new UES - super wealthy - and Queens/outer Brooklyn the new Lower East Side.

The dirt and the smell, when you first step out of Penn Station. Right now, the random violence happening is keeping me away. I used to take the train to the city, to see a play or exhibit....sometimes just to walk around. I won't do that now. The good thing about NYC is the excitement and energy you feel, when you step out into it. It hits you and is energizing. I know violence is always a threat...it's a big city....but it seems to be out of control now.

R100...The people are pretty nice, actually. Yes...they are rushed and it's fast paced, but have been helpful, when I needed directions. New Yorkers get a bad rap, overall. There are ruder people in my state.

NYC never recovered its spirit after 9/11. Not simply because of it but it was also the beginning of 8 years of Bush Jr. and the effects of 8 years under a Republican mayor began to be seen in real estate and suburbanization. .

I don’t understand the small grocery store complaints. TJ’s near me in Chelsea is huge. Ditto Whole Foods, although I rarely shop there.

R60, what do we export? Culture. Yes, Broadway has become Disney-fied and littered with shitty jukebox musicals, but when you can see Patti sing Ladies Who Lunch whenever you want, that’s an honor and a privilege.

I’ve probably been 20 times since my first trip in the mid 90s. I have enjoyed it every time. Great memories. By the end of most vacations I am ready to go home, but I always want one more day in NYC. I’ve always gone with other people, and my favorite thing to do is ditch them for a while and strike out on my own.

I’m sure it would be different to actually LIVE there and have to deal with it in “real life” instead of vacation mode. I haven’t been since 2019, and I can’t wait to go back.

"It's not the heat, it's the humility."

R108 obviously doesn't understand the thread.

*whispers* Considering it’s “America’s melting pot,” it’s actually pretty segregated, especially the school system.

New Yorkers hold themselves out as the most savvy and sophisticated people in America. But when you look at the grifters and smooth-talkers they elect to political office, it's clear that they are more easily fooled than the dumbest rubes from small town U.S.A. It's no wonder P. T. Barnum made his fortune in NYC.

Manahattan was too expensive for me in the 1980s to get an apt on my own (I refused to have roommates) but at least Astoria was extremely cheap back then and the subway commute was very quick. Now that’s impossible too; as well as anywhere in Bklyn.

The city has lost a lot of what made it exciting back then; it was dangerous but not sterile like it is now. All the franchise stores and unaffordable rents everywhere not to mention how expensive Broadway shows are. Depressing. You either have to be wealthy or living in subsidized housing, the middle class is totally screwed here.

I have loved Manhattan all my life but it doesn’t feel the same anymore.

As someone who moved to NYC 3 years ago, I found no real problem with the people....there's a...bluntness, but not a rudeness. And contrary to what I have seen in other cities like London or Paris there is a suprising feeling of neighborly solidarity in the city. The energy of the city and it's people can be a little hard to take though. A little too hyper, a little too aggresive. But super stimulating.

fucking duane Reade and Starbucks on EVERY fucking corner in Manhattan

R115 I remember coming 10 years ago to nyc and being flabbergasted at the amount of Starbucks on every fucking corner but since then many of them have closed and there really are not that many now. The DR's and CVS's remain though.

I note the contrast between the mourning of grittiness lost and the considerable complaints about crime, violence, filth and stench. If that's not grit, what is? Sounds like the heaven you think you've lost hasn't gone anywhere.

These days you have to be willing to go further out if you want more affordable rents r113. Astoria isn't as affordable as it used to be, but you can look at Jackson Heights.

[quote] New Yorkers aren't particularly rude, they're just in a hurry to get where they want

It's not walking down the street where I find them particularly rude--they're rude when dealing with workers, in lines for something, in getting a taxi, etc.

The envy is so thick you can cut it with a knife, lol.

If people posted what a great town Sheboygan MI is, New Yorkers couldn’t care less.

Thin skinned.

The Jews

• Unairconditioned subway stations in the summer especially as the incoming train brings gusts of hot air

• The smell in the summer

•  Flyoverstanis who live in NY for three years and start referring to themselves as "we New Yorkers"

• Taxi drivers who don't own deodorant or soap (less of a problem since Uber, but still....)

•  Bill DiBlasio and his ex-lesbian wife

• No easy way to use mass transit to get to the airports

• Staten Island

• Hudson Yards

• Penn Station

• The chain store/mall-ization of many parts of the city.

Yes the smell of NYC in the summer is that of trash

No more pornos

[Quote]Flyoverstanis who live in NY for three years and start referring to themselves as "we New Yorkers"

I'm honestly curious, in your mind how long does someone need to live there before they can call themselves a NYer?

R19, I experienced that in San Francisco a few weeks ago. Everyone was chill, helpful, open, friendly, except many of the cable car and bus operators....nasty, angry, rude black people.

R123 honestly I have been living in the city for over 3 years, I work here, pay my taxes and have to deal with the city and its people everyday. What else am I supposed to call myself? I would never consider myself a native new yorker, I don't feel I need too, but I absolutely consider myself a New Yorker and will until it's no longer where I live and work.

"The envy is so thick you can cut it with a knife, lol."

Envy? Only a New Yorker would think that any of the remarks displayed envy. "Disdain" might be a more appropriate word.

I visited New York from the UK around 5 years ago, fully prepared for a barrage of rudeness (having been promised it by American friends here in the UK), and was really shocked by the fact that people were so damned friendly. There were a few oddities on the subway, but apart from that people were open, chatty and helpful, even when I got hopelessly lost on the subway and came up into a sketchy neighbourhood.

It’s not in the spirit of this thread really, but I absolutely loved it and can’t wait to go back.

Where do the best bottoms live in NYC?

The tax rate of NYC is equivalent to that of Denmark. In Denmark, however, you also get free healthcare, child care, and college.

The tourists from flyover who constantly bash NYC.

Where did you come from, R133?

The gays are super pretentious in NYC. It's probably very difficult to form any lasting relationships with other gays there. Also, the subways and sidewalks need a good pressure washing. They are filthy--nothing like European cities.

R103 A friend in the late 80s/early nineties paid half of $1200 to share a studio, and attended school FT, worked two PT jobs. I don't know how much that apartment would rent for today, but probably at least 3K, meaning even to share that cramped space one would have to have a well-paid FT job, not cobble together a living out of PT hours.

The rising cost of rents in NY was faster than inflation and the increase in salaries. The city is factually more expensive to live in than it was in the past r100.

Meant r103*

People talking here about everyone being in a rush in New York makes me think of that scene of Carrie screaming at that man in Sex and the City:

"Oh, you're [italic]SO[/italic] busy! You're [italic]SO BUSY[/italic]!

That’s the standard NYC answer to “How are you?” Not “fine.” “Busy.”

[quote] That’s the standard NYC answer to “How are you?” Not “fine.” “Busy.”

No one wants to hear the answer

I remember a line in a gay movie—Parting Glances?—"You can't spell New York without W-O-R-K."

People bringing up the airports is correct. Its really not as convenient to get to JFK, Laguardia or Newark on public transportation. Many other major cities have a direct public transportation to airport, for New York you have to deal with transferring.

You can also get on a bus in midtown that takes you pretty conveniently to these airports -- though I would say Newark and LaGuardia are easier to get to than JFK.

What in the name of all that was sacred and holy could possibly be convenient about taking a bus to the airport? The suitcases alone would get you shot.

Newark has a shuttle, to and from. You can take it in front of Grand Central, Bryant Park or Port Authority. I don't believe the other ones do though.

No one wants to take a fucking bus to the airport.

They want a train.

La Guardia, despite being the nearest one to Manhattan is probably the most complicated to get to. Very limited subway and bus lines that connect with it. JFK takes longer but it doesn't have as many transfers and the Airbus is pretty simple and straightfoward to, and it has more subway/bus connections. In my experience, EWR is probably the easiest and fastest with the shuttle, but obviously you have to pay for it. 17 one way, 30 round trip.

source: I had family and friends come visit me 3 times this summer and I learned alot.

R146 The other buses/shuttles moved a couple of blocks away from where they used to around Grand Central. There's room under the bus for your non-carryon bags.

The vacant lot on 9th at 37th street. Rats as big as Maine Coon cats.

I'd rather stay home - no, [italic]I would rather die[/italic] than arrive at an airport in.a.bus.

Or just call it a jitney like they do to go to the Hamptons and deny it's even a bus. Does riding that give you any extras, like food or a newspaper or water? It looks like all it does it give you the cover of not riding a bus, you're riding a jitney!

[quote]What in the name of all that was sacred and holy could possibly be convenient about taking a bus to the airport? The suitcases alone would get you shot.

There are dedicated buses, run by private companies, that go to the airports from the Port Authority terminal in Times Square and other locations, and of course they have storage for luggage. We're not talking about taking your luggage on a regular city bus, you dick.

R151 I took the train from Gatwick to Victoria Station in London and the first thing I saw from the train was the Battersea Power Station...my god that thing was huge....an as a long time very avid Pink Floyd fan arriving in the UK for the first time I think I bust a gut from the joy.

You can get to both JFK and EWR by train, but both are a PITA

You take LIRR from Penn Station to Jamaica and then switch for the monorail Airtrain thing- involves several escalators and long walk through the station that must be very confusing for non-English speakers.

EWR is NJT from Penn but then you also need to switch for a (free IIRC) monorail thing.

R153, types poor in every respect.

The homeless. The recent transplants who refuse to assimilate (I don’t mean immigrants).

R45, I’m not rich and I have a washer and dryer in my Apartment. It’s the reason I refuse to move. In our old walk up building, we installed a portable Malber that we hooked up to the sink. We paid the super to look the other way when it was delivered. We gave it to him when we moved. Such is the life of a New Yorker

SJWs are spawned in NYC.

[quote][R153], types poor in every respect.

Ah, really? Then please point out the errors in my post. I was merely responding to the fool who thought it was being suggested here that people take their luggage on regular city buses to get to the airports.

Agreed R29.

The idiot tourists who walk four or five across and won’t move for anyone for fear they will get separated and never see each other again.

I like thicker guys who work out but have spare tires and fat butts, and they are generally found in the boroughs or New Jersey. Manhattan has so many distractions that it's too easy to skip the gym.

R146 it took me longer to get from Newark airport to Hell's kitchen by bus then the plane ride from Toronto. So densely populated and so much traffic in the NY metro area.

Can someone please explain to me what's wrong with Penn Station? I've never been but the pics look gorgeous

[quote]Can someone please explain to me what's wrong with Penn Station? I've never been but the pics look gorgeous

The new Moynihan Train Hall at Penn Station is gorgeous, if that's what you're referring to. Who said anything is wrong with it?

R163, people do have incredibly strong feelings about.

R164 people in this thread???

That story reminded me I flew into Newark and trained to Penn Station. I had blocked it out. What a shit hole. It made LaGuardia look good.

But I was a tourist so New Yorkers can have the satisfaction I was disgusted. I gather anything that makes a tourist unhappy thrills you no end.

To clarify, I assumed that the person who said that pictures of Penn Station "look gorgeous" was referring to the new Moynihan Train Station that was constructed out of the old main branch of the New York Public Library. The old part of Penn Station, which still remains, is a notorious shit hole, as some people in this thread may have mentioned.

[quote]I was a tourist so New Yorkers can have the satisfaction I was disgusted. I gather anything that makes a tourist unhappy thrills you no end.

We don't hate all tourists, only fools like you who don't know how to behave in a big city.

That's funny, I hate local cunts who draw wrong conclusions with no basis, so I guess we're good.

I actually do hate New York, because it's such a scam. The current surge in violence notwithstanding, it is the dullest big city on earth. Block after block of soulless glass towers. Give me London any day. Or Paris. Or virtually anywhere else. But one weekend in New York and you've pretty much had the experience, unless you want boasting rights for suffering through living there. And before you tell me not to come, the last time I stayed was around five years ago when a connecting flight got cancelled for weather and I have no desire or intention of coming back again. It's boring. All brand and bullshit.

Good R171! We don't need you!

I apologize, R170. I have no idea if you do or don't know how to behave in a big city. I was referring to other tourists who don't, like those who walk four abreast on the sidewalk.

But....you're still a fool for writing about New Yorkers: "I gather anything that makes a tourist unhappy thrills you no end." That's just nasty, sarcastic bullshit.

I remember when I was 16 walking into the Penn Station bathrooms, this is when it had one lonnnng row of urinals and no dividers, and every guy there was flagrantly jerking off. It was INSANE.

Just going by so many posts on the thread, R173, and ad nauseam since the first post on DL.

I won't touch the irony of a reference to nasty, sarcastic bullshit.

R171 has clearly only been in Midtown, if he has ever been here at all.

Can the arrogance, R171... you don't know anything except how to make an ass out of yourself.

Why IS New York so dirty compared to European capitals? It's not like there isn't enough money in the city to keep it clean

But we learned arrogance from New Yorkers.

"Why IS New York so dirty compared to European capitals? It's not like there isn't enough money in the city to keep it clean"

The people are pigs.

It really depends, some neighborhoods are cleaner than others. But I remember taking family to Greenwich Village during the day a few months ago and regretting it. I realized some neighborhoods are better to be seen at night, and GV was one of them. The dark hides alot of the dirtiness/trash.

R169 you mean wander into traffic like Adderall Zombies, constantly beep your horn in traffic, pay no attention to traffic lights or signs, push people who are trying to exit the subway back in, avoid using bike lanes, refuse to stop for pedestrians. . .

We love New York!!!

R182, all of those things are real and serious problems. Of course, not all assholes are tourists, and NOBODY SAID SO.

Pizza rat!!

Pedestrians, cabbies, cyclists who rather run you over than stop.

^ and joggers on crowded sidewalks who will run you over if you don't get out of their way.

The crowded stores with narrow aisles.

[quote] Envy? Only a New Yorker would think that any of the remarks displayed envy.

This poor poster doesn’t have the first clue. It’s like she was born ten minutes ago. It’s so cute!

R73 the reason is ny'ers think they are so far above the rest of the country when you really live in a literal shit hole fulk of pompass rude people, pay outrageous rents, and think you are living in paradise. Thats why.

New Yorkers are surprisingly provincial and proud of it.

It is without a doubt a great city. But there are other good places too.

No chain restaurants once you leave Times Square!

Who knows what they put in that food!

Madonna and Iggy Pop define New York and they're both from Michigan

Most streets smell like urine, weed, or both.

How tragic to live in New York and complain about tourists

OP bred to believe NY is the greatest city in the world. Put a fork in it, it's done.

The fucking garbage. With all this outdoor dining the last year I’m like why do I want to sit amongst fucking rats and garbage? Romantic it ain’t.

And of course our mayor, but thankfully that’s ending imminently.

New Yorkers blame everything on the mayor no matter who it is

R198 not really true - I’m 43 and a native and never has someone been universally loathed by both parties - it’s definitely a first in mu lifetime.

Agree with R199 Bloomberg, Dinkins and Rudy at least in his first term were never hated as Lurch is. De Blasio reeks!

All this projection will roll over to the next mayor

[Quote] New Yorkers hold themselves out as the most savvy and sophisticated people in America. But when you look at the grifters and smooth-talkers they elect to political office,

Most of the savvy and sophisticated New Yorkers do not vote. They are not US citizens. That's what makes NYC a brilliant city.

Yeah, my mother and grandmother both grew up in NYC too and say Warren Wilhelm Junior (his real name) is singularly hated among NYC mayors by people from all walks of life. Which is compounded by the fact that he does not seem to even remotely grasp how much he is hated.

I always wonder who is funding his races for president and now, likely, governor. Just give me the money instead if you want to throw it away.

[quote] For a certain type of gay man in his 50s, Madonna and Iggy Pop define New York

Fixted

The Trump family and all their works, all their cronies and enablers.

[quote]source: I had family and friends come visit me 3 times this summer and I learned alot.

News flash: if you live in New York City, family and friends don't come to visit YOU. They come to visit New York City.

Move to Birmingham, Alabama and see how many visitors you get.

[quote]Most of the savvy and sophisticated New Yorkers do not vote. They are not US citizens. That's what makes NYC a brilliant city.

And that's why this is the true theme song of New York City.

I’ve been here since Koch and cannot remember a time when everyone hated the mayor the way they hate Big Bird. People hated Giuliani, but he had plenty of support.

The only thing I’ve ever heard him praised for us Universal Pre-K. And it was BLOOMBERG who laid the groundwork.

I’ll miss Big Bird because he brings people together. I’m not looking forward to the next four years of tumult.

I agree - WHO are these people funding DeBlasios delusional belief in higher office? I loathe him for his incompetency, laziness and failure to accomplish anything despite manipulative progressive rhetoric. IMO, Christine Quinn would have made a stellar mayor - if she wasn’t railroaded by the horse carriage nonsense funded by DeBlasio.

I have no idea how Eric Adams will change things. As an ex-cop, he concerns me - having lived through the Giuliani SS years, I have no desire to see cops given free rein again. The connection between crime and unfettered cops is a right wing myth.

[quote] Madonna and Iggy Pop define New York

Iggy Pop??

When people were surprised Eric Adams won its because people forget that Manhattan and "cool" Brooklyn is is only a fraction of NY. All those working class families in the Bronx, Queens, and outer Brooklyn vote and there are more of them. People forget about the world outside of their social circle.

I’m so glad Eric Adams won.

[quote]ny'ers think they are so far above the rest of the country when you really live in a literal shit hole fulk of pompass rude people, pay outrageous rents, and think you are living in paradise

No, R190. The only people we think we're above -- or, rather, KNOW we're above -- are racists, homophobes, religious zealots, and Trumptard "Republicans" who live in places where everyone is like them, never travel more than a few miles in any direction, and have no tolerance whatsoever for people with lifestyles and beliefs different from their own. Like you, for example.

R213 Donald Trump is a New Yorker. And acts like one. He’s famous because he was a NY personality. Why didn’t you brilliant people see through him?

The truth is there are lots of trashy people in NY. Didn’t Staten Island vote for Trump?

R214, Trump has been a JOKE here since the 1990s. The rest of the country ate him up like a delicious dessert.

Y’all ate him up in the 80s. And he’s still YOUR fool, NYC. He is not a flyover.

[quote]The truth is there are lots of trashy people in NY. Didn’t Staten Island vote for Trump?

Yes, they did. But Staten Island is generally considered a shit-hole in many ways, not only in terms of politics but also racism, homophobia, and the fact that it's one of the capitals of the world when it comes to prescription drug abuse. Also, there has been repeated talk of S.I. actually seceding from the NYC -- that's how extremely different the mindset is there (if you can call it a mindset).

[quote]Y’all ate him up in the 80s.

First of all, at that time, a great many of his truly horrible deeds were, of course, far in the future. And not everyone "ate him up" back then. Many people had his number ever since he took out those huge ads in newspapers calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5 -- who, MANY years later, were exonerated.

[quote]He’s still YOUR fool, NYC. He is not a flyover.

What in freaking hell is the point of this statement? Do you think anyone is saying that no evil assholes were born and bred in New York City? ABSOLUTELY NO ONE said that, you complete idiot.

De Blasio is to mayors what Harris is to VPs.

All you need to know about Trump and NYC is that he and his entire clan now live in Florida.

R210 Iggy Pop

All these stomping toddlers bummed that no one is impressed that they live in New York

"35th street between 8th and 9th. "

"[R2] that area is a shithole."

I haven't been to NYC in 12 or 13 years. Given all the development and gentrification and articles about the common man has been driven out and it's a playground for the rich and upwardly mobile, I can never get a good grasp of whether there is still grit and dangerous and seedy areas throughout Manhattan.

[quote]All you need to know about Trump and NYC is that he and his entire clan now live in Florida.

Exactly. Thank you.

[quote]Given all the development and gentrification and articles about the common man has been driven out and it's a playground for the rich and upwardly mobile, I can never get a good grasp of whether there is still grit and dangerous and seedy areas throughout Manhattan.

There are definitely still pockets, for example, the areas immediately around and in between Penn Station and the Port Authority bus terminal.

People in New York are consumed by their security blanket phones just like everywhere else in the world

ALL the politicians in NYC are corrupt and spineless. And, you only see them out in public when it's time for re-election. Gale Brewer, I'm looking at you.

The Port Authority/Penn Station area is the last part of Manhattan that's still shitty.

R226 came here again to say just that. Although parts of the UWS (basically once you get above the Lincoln Center area) are starting to look and feel pretty seedy again, too.

East Harlem is pretty dangerous, high rate of violent crime there still.

If you earn less than high six figures a year, you are living in poverty with a very low quality of life

I'm not posing this question to start an NYC v. Chicago debate or get people piling on Chicago (I know lots of DLers have issues with the Windy City). But, just comparing big, dense cities, why is Chicago so much cleaner? Is it simply the benefit of having alleys? Is it simply the size/density difference - Chicago is big, but NYC has much more people packed into a smaller space. Or is it just government services expectations -- residents have a certain expectation and the government meets them at that level.

Obviously Chicago isn't uniformly clean, but in comparable areas, you can really see a difference.

No mayor of New York wants to up with complaints of the city not being gritty enough.

The thing that irks The Woke, Especially the Guilty White Woke about Eric Adams is that they were backing Wiley because they claimed that she was the only one who cared about and understood the concerns of working class people of color.

And then all those working class people of color disappointed them by voting en masse for Adams.

Property taxes are way too high.

Too many nut jobs running around.

Cops are never there when you actually need them. I remember when cops patrolled the subways. Public housing even had their own police on patrol.

R229, bit of an exagerration. I dont make anywhere near a 6 figure salary a year and while I could be doing better and its harder to earn than it should be, I do well enough and live well enough.

NYC Road Rage Compilation

Fat 11 year old girls throwing poppers at my dog.

R236, bravo for that one :-)

The lack of hot men and the surplus of bossy bottoms

The door games played at trendy nightclubs.

I don't like cities, but I like New York!

Can someone explain R236? I laughed at it, but then I realized I have no idea what that person means.

R241, there was a recent incident where an 11-year-old girl was part of a group of kids harassing dogs in a dog park, and when one of the dog owners reacted by punching the girl, he was arrested but, of course, she suffered no consequences whatsoever -- other than getting punched :-)

[quote][R241], there was a recent incident where an 11-year-old girl was part of a group of kids harassing dogs in a dog park, and when one of the dog owners reacted by punching the girl, he was arrested but, of course, she suffered no consequences whatsoever -- other than getting punched :-)

Is there a GoFundMe for Nathaniel?

He's my hero!

R232- I don't like Eric Adams he seems like a SHADY character but what THEY don't like about him compared to Wiley was that he's NOT woke.

Sex and the City tours

Thank you R242! I’m very familiar with that dog park, go to it all the time! I didn’t hear about this incident. Can’t say I’ve ever seen kids misbehaving there, but maybe I’m not there at the right time. If anything, junior high school kids will come in without a dog, and just sit on a bench hoping to pet or play with some of the dogs. They’re not supposed to do that, but they’re generally harmless and not irritating like this group of kids evidently was.

I’m glad the young man punched her!

Just found the full, nearly 3-minute video that captured what led up to him punching the girl. In my opinion the teenage boys were even worse—they should’ve been pummeled. The school teacher or whoever was there not controlling the kids should be sued/criminally charged/fired.

I seriously want to beat the shit out of the teenage boys who were escalating the situation and calling the woman “Karen”.

Melania wants to bring Barron back the live in NYC. She will be welcomed in all social circles.

^..." bring back to live..." I've had too much pinot grigio.

Trust fund hipsters, 'creatives' feeling the need to tell everyone within earshot they are "creatives", humble braggers, Yuppie scum, millionaires and billionaires.

Wealthy flyovers and wealthy ex-pats who have absolutely no idea what NYC was about before they planted their privileged asses in NYC.

All these people have ruined NYC. Few have actually contributed, they simply take.

Here's one of the worst things about NYC, from someone who's lived here all his life: I think this may be only now starting to change, but for decades, landlords have received huge tax write-offs when they keep commercial spaces empty for long periods of time -- restaurants, retail stores, mom-and-pop shops, etc. This has resulted in landlords continually jacking up the rents to astronomically ridiculous levels, knowing that if the restaurants or stores in question can't afford it and move out, the landlord will get those tax breaks, which are very valuable to them. This has decimated the city because it has resulted in many commercial spaces remaining empty for years, even before the pandemic.

That’s disgusting, R251. I remember about ten years ago when a lot of the best mom-and-pop shops or little restaurants started closing because they couldn’t afford the rent anymore. That is what sealed NYC’s fate. It’s completely over now.

I spent two summers in NYC working like an animal in restaurants. Both times, I stayed at Jackson Heights. Never again. I'm sure I missed out on the finer parts of the city but I absolutely fucking hated there (Jackson Heights). Also, the pace of the city is so overwhelming that it feels like time just ticks faster there. I swear I would lose all day just doing laundry on my day off.

Hedge fund managers.

What New Yorkers did to King Kong.

R253, Jackson Heights is definitely a fucking armpit. Most of Queens is. I lived just down the road in Astoria, and not the ‘hip’ end that you take the N/W to get to—I took the fuckin R train. Most of my neighborhood looked like Jackson Heights. Great food in JH, though.

And you’re right, the pace of life here makes it slip by too fast. Where do you live now?

R256 Oklahoma 😭😭😭

The smell of urine in the streets. Good Lord it needs a good wash

I have to say I never really encounter much urine smell in the streets. Occasionally I’ll pass by a little nook under some scaffolding, where drunken assholes or homeless people pee, but those are few and far between.

When New Yorkers claim that NYC is the cultural/artistic capital of the world, the epitome of class and sophistication, when two of the biggest dirtball scumbags in recent history, Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump, were both born and raised there and spent most of their careers there (much to the detriment of the nation).

[quote]That’s disgusting, [R251]. I remember about ten years ago when a lot of the best mom-and-pop shops or little restaurants started closing because they couldn’t afford the rent anymore. That is what sealed NYC’s fate. It’s completely over now.

Not completely over, but a shadow of its former self in that respect.

[quote]When New Yorkers claim that NYC is the cultural/artistic capital of the world, the epitome of class and sophistication, when two of the biggest dirtball scumbags in recent history, Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump, were both born and raised there and spent most of their careers there (much to the detriment of the nation).

That has to be one the most ridiculously idotic comments every typed. Please step away from the computer, R260.

I grew up in Forest Hills, Queens--it wasn't that bad. If I could afford it, I would buy one of those big Tudor houses in Forest Hills Gardens and never leave.

Forest Hills = Jewville

R260 so two assholes being born in NYC somehow erase every single artist and creative that has come out of the it?

What a fucking idiotic thing to say.

Adding my name to the above list — R260’s comment is completely idiotic.

Inescapable smell of piss and marijuana

I have no problem with pot and will indulge from time to time but the pot smell has gone way over the top since the legalization. Anywhere that is near to a park or a square it's unbreathable. Is there a way we can keep it legal but ban pot smoking outside?

[quote]Adding my name to the above list — [R260]’s comment is completely idiotic.

Yes, but he's probably too stupid to be embarrassed by it. Either that, or he's a troll. Or both.

[quote] Is there a way we can keep it legal but ban pot smoking outside?

I sure as hell hope not!

I don't like the smell of pot smoke either, but that's just an inconvenience of modern life. Nothing much you can do about it.

The summers are not bad. I think I actually used my AC about 10 days this past summer.

Agree with the heat in the below ground stations during the summer.

Since you the pandemic, I have seen way more rats.

Entitled homeless people. Suddenly, they have a huge chip on their shoulder. Weird.

Criminals taking full advantage of the mask wearing mandate..

What I completely fucking loathe about NYC is that not all places can be as amazing and more often than not are in fact stripmall hell.

NY is becoming a noisy, dirty, dangerous strip mall.

The honking horns.

I realized early on that New Yorkers (Manhattan, specifically) believe themselves to be the most sophisticated people on earth. Dream on.

Don't understand at all the complaints about the weather. Clear that either the complainers have never lived in NYC or have never lived in alternates like Chicago or Phoenix.

But the tiny supermarkets are really bad.

The gentrification of Times Square.

R275 I feel the opposite, people who think NYC weather is good have never lived anywhere else.

R277 You're twisting. The point is there's no good reason to complain about NYC weather, especially compared with most US alternatives.

Nobody's saying it's San Diego. But there you'd have to put up with all the sailors.

R276 It is becoming less and less gentrified now, and that is NOT a good thing.

The weather isn’t THAT bad here.

Maybe this a national problem, but the vets here are so expensive. Just to put my health cat on the table for his annual checkup is $100. A battery of tests later and I’m out several hundred. I love my cat more than anything, but the vets are out to bleed us dry.

I’m old enough to remember NY in the seventies, and it was thrilling to me as a kid. When the train came up on the other side of the meadowlands, the canyons of the skyscrapers and the noise snd the energy were unbelievable. I loved all the coffee shops and automats and glamorous department stores. Now I’ve lost that lovin’feeling, partly the onset of old age but mostly because I can’t get that excited by Mattress Discounters, Old Navy and Panera Bread. I see that shit all the time on route seven in northern Virginia. It doesn’t feel as unique as it once did. I don’t agree with the complaints of rudeness though, I’ve always had good experiences with New Yorkers., they’re a lot more loquacious and entertaining than the thin lipped Washingtonians.

The humidity is fucking terrible in the summer. You cannot walk 2 blocks without getting drenched. And this is from someone who grew up in South America.

Are the people rude?

New York died when Kitty Carlisle Hart died.

We are not rude. New Yorkers, despite the reputation, are quite friendly. We don’t like having our time wasted (slow walkers are the worst), but if you stop me and ask which way is Times Square, I’ll happily point you in the right direction.

Swatch, the dog in that fabric store called Mood.

Thank you, Mood.

Woody Allen.

Sidewalk sheds that stay up for years and years and constrict the flow of foot traffic.

New Yorkers are not rude, for the most part. Sure if you happen to catch the subway during rush hour, you may encounter some rudeness.

Other than than that, I think people are mistaking loudness and bluntness for rudeness..

That's the winner, R289.

Rats, roaches and other vermin.

I will complain with the rest about about specific aspects of NYC, or make broad and negative generalizations. (The remarks above about overestimated savvy and sophistication on the part of the inhabitants, as if merely to live in NYC is to have accomplished something important strike a bell with me; one of its disappointments is that the place is often too American in an old-fashioned way, too provincial.)

But hate the city? No. I can't even think of much to say in hating specific small things about the city. It's a magnificient place for all its faults. I spent plenty of time there and thought for a long time I would live there, or needed to live there. By the time I had the freedom and money to do that easily (enough), the urge had passed. I wouldn't live there now unless part-time if I were stinking fucking rich.

For me the real brashness of NYC is about putting people in their place. No matter who you are, there is someone more important and better about whatever distinguishes you. No matter how rich you are, someone living in the same building or the same block makes your life look rather miserable and mean. The readiness of the place to impart the lesson that you are not half what you think you are, or even half what you would like to be could wear a person down, but some people rise above it, by necessity or by the strength of their character (though the number who succeed at this are fairly few.) It's not a place I want to live now that I could live there reasonably well and comfortably, certainly. It's a city with a heavy measure of hard work doled out for every bit of pleasure and in that sense it's upside down for me. Yet it's undeniably a wonderful place, warts and all. If I think of NYC it's always a flood of images of the best things about it, and only later does it get around to the, "oh well, but the X is terrible."

It's not a very hateable place in the end.

R293 =New Yorker who is trying to change the narrative.

R294. No, never a New Yorker, and no desire to be.

[quote]The remarks above about overestimated savvy and sophistication on the part of the inhabitants, as if merely to live in NYC is to have accomplished something important strike a bell with me; one of its disappointments is that the place is often too American in an old-fashioned way, too provincial.)

Big ouch there but it's so true... the way so many New Yorkers carry on here they plainly do think moving is an accomplishment.

I adore New York in the Spring!

[quote]East Harlem is pretty dangerous, high rate of violent crime there still.

Is the Museum Mile portion of East Harlem still safe? It used to seem perfectly pleasant in the day. I know some violent crime has been trickling down to East 95th Street across from where the Carhart Mansion is located in the last few years.

R298 It is. EH becomes somewhat seedier post 110th and really only east of Madison, and even then its still pretty safe until 116th. Then it gets significantly worse , and I would completely avoid 125th st and up. But 5th ave and Madison still manage to be pretty safe till at least 125th.

I hate that it's so big.

I prefer cozy.

Serendipity is a good movie set there.

Warren Wilhelm Junior wants to run for governor...

I adore New York in the summer...hot and steamy, with the aromas...

Balls are my favorite NYC summer aroma, R303

[quote] Maybe this a national problem, but the vets here are so expensive. Just to put my health cat on the table for his annual checkup is $100. A battery of tests later and I’m out several hundred. I love my cat more than anything, but the vets are out to bleed us dry.

It’s not a national problem, it’s a NYC problem. Take your cat upstate to a vet (if you ever find yourself up there with your cat!) and you’ll spend $40-80 for an exam + shots or whatever, which would’ve cost you $400 in the city.

What isn't expensive in NYC? Yeah, there are free pleasures...the parks, concerts in the park...just walking and observing. But to buy anything, you're going to pay a lot more there.

...services, too...^^

Buy? Just steal it! That's what many are doing!

Walked by a Duane reade earlier and some guy walked out with a garbage bag full of stolen goods, his accomplice was waiting for him outside where he had a shopping cart full of big, black garbage bags, probably all stolen shit. They usually have a police officer there but he was nowhere to be seen.

The thieves have gotten bolder....in broad daylight, with people all around. Nothing to see here...

This will make the tourist dollars dry up and cause taxes to go up. In addition to making the city more dangerous.

Toll collectors

Troll collectors.

The Vessel was closed. Where else can New Yorkers jump to their deaths?

For the cat owner, the ASPCA has an animal hospital, they even have reptile vets. Why not go there, it's definitely cheaper than a private vet.

Years ago, I took my now 24 year old turtle to the Animal Medical Center, the bill was over $400!

My turtle was egg bound and needed those unfertilized eggs to come out or she could have died, The exam and X-rays were expensive. I knew she was egg bound because she was doing weird kicking motions and wasn't expelling this eggs. The vet gave her one 'abortion shot' , I had to give her another one at night. All the eggs came out the next day. I was annoyed that the vet actually charged me for the first shot, they could have thrown that in, to me it was part of the exam.

The ASPCA also helps pet owners in financial need, call for more information.

R313 The Brooklyn Bridge? I wonder why it's not as popular for suicides as the Golden Gate.

Too many mutha fuckin people!

R315, for one thing it's nearly 100 feet shorter at 127 feet. You can definitely die of course jumping into water from 127 feet but you could also survive. The 220 feet of the GG bridge almost guarantees death. That last thing you want is to not die but be seriously injured and survive like that or drown because you're injured. I guess if you're trying to commit suicide drowning after jumping might be okay, but I don't think anyone wants suffer while dying.

Too many creeps.

People who chew gum.

Dogs that don't wear diapers.

Raindrops on roses.

The Fashion Industry

While generally people are very nice in NYC, there is definitely a significant share of nasty people.

I will call a business for some reason, and right off the bat, you hear the attitude in the person's voice.

R323, of course in any city with SO MANY people in it, there will be larger number of nasty people than in smaller cities, though not necessarily a larger PERCENTAGE of nasty people :-)

Ew! When Kevin Sessums visits, and bebobbles his pumpkinhead with that bemused smirk on his face

The arrested delusionals who still think it's the "greatest city in the world!" #gag

TOURISTS!

I feel attacked, R327!

^Ugh, that was meant to be R326 - I totally spoiled the joke there!

R329 No one cares

“Will the following customer please step down!”

"Where is the manager!??"

Young woman changing her baby's diaper on the N train, "WTF are YOUSE lookin' at? Wanna shit filled diaper in your mother fucking face?" This crazy bitch then proceeded to leave the shit filled diaper on the seat and got off the train.

This really happened.