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Beanie Feldstein/Jonah Hill in a wig *IS* 'Funny Girl'!

Good fuck, this looks terrible. As expected. Jane Lynch will only help the hopeless cause by cackling to the audiences.

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by Anonymousreply 601November 3, 2021 7:40 PM

Oh for fuck's sake it even walks fat.

by Anonymousreply 1October 17, 2021 6:02 PM

I know it is abhorrent to remark or observe that for Jewish people, waltzing into a bespoke showbiz career seems to have a lower bar of entry requiring none of the usual demands of a beautiful face, or lovely figure.

It does seem odd that schlubby overweight performers, even younger ones are so happily accommodated and defended if they're members of the Tribe.

by Anonymousreply 2October 17, 2021 6:37 PM

Babs should sue. She (nor Fanny Brice herself) was ever this, uh, zaftig.

by Anonymousreply 3October 17, 2021 6:39 PM

OP here...I need to pardon myself for not explaining in my post that a certain Mea Lichele wants to shit in Jonah/Beanie/anyone's wig involved with this project. Darren Criss is also not especially happy to not get the co-starring role Mea promised him a decade ago.

by Anonymousreply 4October 17, 2021 6:43 PM

R2 Is the little goy jealous?

by Anonymousreply 5October 17, 2021 6:45 PM

She looks like Mrs. Strakosh!!

by Anonymousreply 6October 17, 2021 6:48 PM

"If A Girl Isn't Pretty" is going to really connect with the audience this time.

by Anonymousreply 7October 17, 2021 6:52 PM

"Fattie, Fattie."

"I'm the Biggest Star."

"If a Girl Isn't Skinny."

"His Love Makes Me Thinner."

"Don't Rain on Me, a Parade Float."

by Anonymousreply 8October 17, 2021 6:53 PM

Word on the street is she'll lip-sync My Man

by Anonymousreply 9October 17, 2021 6:53 PM

Did you really think we hadn't discussed this at length over two months ago when the news first came out?

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by Anonymousreply 10October 17, 2021 6:54 PM

Yes....but to see a real life ad for it is...HORRIFYING!

by Anonymousreply 11October 17, 2021 6:58 PM

r10 WILL rain on our parade!

by Anonymousreply 12October 17, 2021 7:00 PM

If a girl isn't a looker like a Tijuana hooker

All she gets from life is mouthfuls of cum

Kindly name a tramp who hasn’t blown a baseball team

If she hasn't, she just never gets to bat

She must swallow each salty load

French kiss each rich old toad

by Anonymousreply 13October 17, 2021 7:01 PM

I bet Barbra is *delighted* with this casting.

There is nothing threatening about Beanie that will overshadow Barbra's performance.

by Anonymousreply 14October 17, 2021 7:02 PM

Jonie Hill

by Anonymousreply 15October 17, 2021 7:02 PM

R10 can kindly fuck off because I not only already had them blocked, but this trailer was just released. Go back to your basement, sad sap.

by Anonymousreply 16October 17, 2021 7:15 PM

This trailer was not just released. It was released two weeks ago and there was a thread on it.

by Anonymousreply 17October 17, 2021 7:27 PM

Are they using the original score? CORNET MAN? RAT TAT TAT TAT? HIS IS THE ONLY MUSIC THAT MAKES ME DANCE?

SURELY they won't stuff this chubette into roller skates!!!

by Anonymousreply 18October 17, 2021 7:31 PM

"Private Schwartz from Rockaway" is OFFENSIVE!

by Anonymousreply 19October 17, 2021 7:33 PM

The only way this ox should wear roller skates on a Broadway stage is if she gets in a gorilla suit and has the Emcee sing "If You Could See Her Through My Eyes" to her.

by Anonymousreply 20October 17, 2021 7:34 PM

She's bigger than a house. Should have been cast as Fanny's mother's neighbor, never as Fanny. Is this all happening because of the Jonah Hill connection?

by Anonymousreply 21October 17, 2021 7:44 PM

Was a revival of Funny Girl really necessary? It's such a creaky old relic of a show.

by Anonymousreply 22October 17, 2021 8:12 PM

[quote]Should have been cast as Fanny's mother's neighbor

Should have been cast as Fanny's mother's neighborhood.

by Anonymousreply 23October 17, 2021 8:18 PM

Is this going to have the songs from Broadway or the movie?

I think they'll have to use songs from Broadway to give Beanie time to do costume changes and scarf down a buffet.

You don't need others to sing in movies so you can change/rest, but you do on Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 24October 17, 2021 8:20 PM

I'd see this just for Ramin Karimloo. He is so hot and has a fine voice.

by Anonymousreply 25October 17, 2021 8:22 PM

Beanie can sing, but she has a super-annoying nasal voice.

Here, DOUBLE your irritation by hearing her sing a Sondheim duet with Ben platt.

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by Anonymousreply 26October 17, 2021 8:25 PM

Broadway fell apart with non-traditional casting. Sometimes it works, granted. But now that it's no longer important to have an actor fit the description of a role in any way (even in a biographical show like this), it's a free-for-all.

by Anonymousreply 27October 17, 2021 8:25 PM

She's okay, but quite honestly the girl who starred in my high school's musicals ("The Music Man," :Guys and Dolls," and "Carnival") had a much bigger and more compelling voice.

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by Anonymousreply 28October 17, 2021 8:26 PM

R28 Is she still available? Maybe there's time.

by Anonymousreply 29October 17, 2021 8:28 PM

Beanie and Ben Platt singing together represent the triumph of show-business nepotism.

by Anonymousreply 30October 17, 2021 8:38 PM

R30 Both can act and both can sing, not every son and daughter of known actors can say the same.

Lea Michele lost a role that was clearly for her for being a bitch

by Anonymousreply 31October 17, 2021 8:42 PM

[quote]Lea Michele lost a role that was clearly for her for being a bitch

I don't know if that is true. I didn't think Michele brought anything new or great to "Don't Rain on My Parade" when I saw her sing it in front of an audience.

Now, granted, I fucking hate that song, but I still wasn't impressed with her ability to put it over.

by Anonymousreply 32October 17, 2021 8:46 PM

Funny Girl is a star vehicle, so unless you have a STAR in the lead, it's going to flop. Just like Hello Dolly needed Bette Midler, Funny Girl needs a big star too. I doubt flyover tourists have even heard of Beanie Feldstein.

Lea Michele isn't a big enough star to carry Funny Girl, either.

by Anonymousreply 33October 17, 2021 8:48 PM

Funny Girl needed Lady Gaga.

by Anonymousreply 34October 17, 2021 8:52 PM

Please don’t eat me, but I can’t for the life of me remember who Lynch would be playing.

by Anonymousreply 35October 17, 2021 9:05 PM

Makes me year for Lea Michelle.

Fanny Brice was a skinny wisecracker.

Beanie...blech

by Anonymousreply 36October 17, 2021 9:08 PM

[quote]Funny Girl needed Lady Gaga.

It's called Funny Girl. Fanny Brice was a comedian. When has Lady Gaga been known for her comedic ability? Barbra and Lainie Kazan I can understand.

by Anonymousreply 37October 17, 2021 9:09 PM

Lea Michelle - another comic genius.

by Anonymousreply 38October 17, 2021 9:10 PM

She really does look so much like her brother, sadly.

Anyway, at least the man is very nice to look at.

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by Anonymousreply 39October 17, 2021 9:19 PM

Any guy who pays a quarter

For a blow job thinks he oughtta

Be allowed to grab your boobies or your gash;

So a gal should be a Hoover

And offer him a two-fer

And that lady will become a smash!

by Anonymousreply 40October 17, 2021 9:27 PM

"Hello gorgeous!"

Who's she talking to?

by Anonymousreply 41October 17, 2021 9:31 PM

How lucky they aren't releasing grosses this season.

How many weeks after opening until it's announced La Feldstein has swallowed a feather and will be out?

by Anonymousreply 42October 17, 2021 9:38 PM

Wow -- they're really going ahead with this.

by Anonymousreply 43October 17, 2021 9:38 PM

Wasn't it time for a Black version of Funny Girl?

by Anonymousreply 44October 17, 2021 9:39 PM

Feldsteins wobble but they don’t fall down.

by Anonymousreply 45October 17, 2021 9:57 PM

In what world does tall, lanky blond Jane Lynch even begin to approximate a card playing Jewish mother to this um....zaftig little matzo ball?

by Anonymousreply 46October 17, 2021 10:05 PM

FUNNY GIRL is a LONG musical - the film cut EIGHT songs from the Broadway show and it STILL ran 149 minutes!! (155 in the restored 2002 version) - so even without "Henry Street", "Who Taught Her Everything She Knows", "Find Yourself a Man" , etc, it's going to run LONG. The 1964 audience ate it up because Streisand was such a sensation.

Audiences tend to get restless at the two hour mark, even with an intermission - there are going to be some NUMB asses in the seats by the time old Beanie limps out to warble MY MAN.

by Anonymousreply 47October 17, 2021 10:22 PM

Who taught her everything she knows?

I taught her how to blow every Joe in Queens boro.

I taught her sodomy, and how to golden showers with her pee,

I taught her everything she knows!

by Anonymousreply 48October 17, 2021 10:37 PM

I think this is why Gen Z has become so disconnected from actors and singers. It’s like a freak show circus with Cardi B and Lizzo and Billy Porter and just all these fat and awkward or ugly people being championed as progressives.

And it’s why YouTube and TikTok and Instagram is so popular among Gen Z. The big stars of social media are skinny and fit and pretty and hot and fit more to the traditional standards of popularity.

by Anonymousreply 49October 17, 2021 10:37 PM

[quote] FUNNY GIRL is a LONG musical - the film cut EIGHT songs from the Broadway show and it STILL ran 149 minutes!!

Well, don't forget that they then ADDED six musical numbers too: "Rollerskate Rag," "The Swan," the title number, "Second-Hand Rose," "I'd Rather Be Blue," and "My Man."

by Anonymousreply 50October 17, 2021 11:00 PM

She will get a Tony nomination.

by Anonymousreply 51October 17, 2021 11:09 PM

Can’t stand her or her brother.

by Anonymousreply 52October 17, 2021 11:30 PM

“They said she’d never be a star”…

by Anonymousreply 53October 17, 2021 11:37 PM

[quote]Funny Girl needs a big star

Well, they got a HUGE one!

by Anonymousreply 54October 17, 2021 11:42 PM

Just stick a bevy of scantily clad chorus girls behind Beanie in every number.

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by Anonymousreply 55October 17, 2021 11:50 PM

That's the most ridiculous number I've seen in a long time.

by Anonymousreply 56October 18, 2021 12:14 AM

Lillias White IS better than Barbra.

Anna Kendrick would be cute too. Or Cheneweth.

Why does Fanny Brice have to be Jewish?

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by Anonymousreply 57October 18, 2021 12:26 AM

[quote]Or Cheneweth.

"Funny Crone"?

by Anonymousreply 58October 18, 2021 1:02 AM

But you have to admit, r56, they're really givin' it their *all*!

by Anonymousreply 59October 18, 2021 1:04 AM

[quote] Why does Fanny Brice have to be Jewish?

Originally the producers of the Merrill/Styne musical wanted Carol Burnett (who is not a Jewess) to play her on Broadway--Streisand was the second choice (Burnett turned it down to do another musical). And Anthony Sher tried to mount a revival ten years ago in NYC (which almost happened) starring Lauren Ambrose (who is also not a Jewess).

by Anonymousreply 60October 18, 2021 1:05 AM

R60. Bartlett. Antony (not Anthony) is too busy dying to do much else.

by Anonymousreply 61October 18, 2021 1:12 AM

That's interesting r49. I've never thought of that but you're right. Most people, regardless of generation, want to see celebrities who are thin and gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 62October 18, 2021 1:12 AM

Carol turned it down because she knew she wasn't right for it, r60. She told them they needed to get a Jewish girl.

by Anonymousreply 63October 18, 2021 1:23 AM

First we are supposed to buy her playing a woman with a sexual potency that would make a president risk the Oval Office for a BJ from her. Next we are meant to think she can come close to filling Barbra’s shoes? I like Beanie fine, but the Impeachment / Funny Girl one-two punch tells me she has the best agent or manager in the business. What the fuck!

by Anonymousreply 64October 18, 2021 1:30 AM

Oops, r61. you're right and I'm wrong. Thanks for the correction.

by Anonymousreply 65October 18, 2021 1:37 AM

They should of casted Lady Gaga.

by Anonymousreply 66October 18, 2021 1:58 AM

Lady Gaga doesn't do Broadway. You have to show up every day and stay off the junk. Though she is a Jewess, her voice is much better suited to the score of EVITA. Gaga really would have made the best film of Evita. She was born too late.

by Anonymousreply 67October 18, 2021 2:02 AM

Lady Gaga is not Jewish.

by Anonymousreply 68October 18, 2021 2:03 AM

She's a Jewess, R68.

by Anonymousreply 69October 18, 2021 2:04 AM

Lady Gaga (Stephanie Germanotta) is of mostly Italian heritage with some French, and her family is Catholic.

by Anonymousreply 70October 18, 2021 2:10 AM

That doesn't stop her from being a Jewess R70.

by Anonymousreply 71October 18, 2021 2:11 AM

"But you have to admit, [R56], they're really givin' it their *all*!"

I admire the kids, but the director who thought it was a great idea to upstage the soloist with what looks like the school dance team did her a disservice.

by Anonymousreply 72October 18, 2021 2:12 AM

You're odd r71

by Anonymousreply 73October 18, 2021 2:13 AM

Don't cry for me argentina @ R73. Shalom.☮️

by Anonymousreply 74October 18, 2021 2:45 AM

[quote]Why does Fanny Brice have to be Jewish?

Same reason Miss Jane Pittman is a schvartze.

by Anonymousreply 75October 18, 2021 2:49 AM

"I admire the kids, but the director who thought it was a great idea to upstage the soloist with what looks like the school dance team did her a disservice."

Ya think, r72?

by Anonymousreply 76October 18, 2021 2:53 AM

She's such a fat ugly pig, all I can see is her brother in a wig.

by Anonymousreply 77October 18, 2021 3:07 AM

That's not a nice thing to say about Sheldon Streizand R77.

by Anonymousreply 78October 18, 2021 3:13 AM

Was there any great demand for a revival of Funny Girl? Barbra is the only reason why it's still even known.

by Anonymousreply 79October 18, 2021 3:21 AM

Ms. Linda Eder is ready. She's been ready. Give her a call.

She's better than Barbaric OR Beaner.

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by Anonymousreply 80October 18, 2021 3:29 AM

No and exactly, r79.

by Anonymousreply 81October 18, 2021 3:35 AM

Because...

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by Anonymousreply 82October 18, 2021 3:37 AM

If Barbra hadn't been the lead in Funny Girl, it would be long-forgotten.

by Anonymousreply 83October 18, 2021 3:50 AM

R80. I love Linda Eder. Seen her many times in concert. Linda has one of the purest voices.

by Anonymousreply 84October 18, 2021 3:55 AM

Miss Eydie Gorme would be a great replacement or road show Fanny. She and Beaner even resemble one another. Is Eydie available?

I didn't post Linda Eder ironically R84. What a spectacular voice. I worked with her once - people always say that here, but I did. Her voice is orgasmic and she's also a very fine singer. You seldom get both.

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by Anonymousreply 85October 18, 2021 4:03 AM

[quote]Why does Fanny Brice have to be Jewish?

She doesn't!

by Anonymousreply 86October 18, 2021 4:11 AM

[quote]Same reason Miss Jane Pittman is a schvartze.

Schvartze. A Yiddish slur for against a black person. Something your aging racist Jewish grandparent might say. · Schvartze. 1. (derogatory)

by Anonymousreply 87October 18, 2021 4:12 AM

If I'm not mistaken the role of Fanny in the original production was also offered to Anne Bancroft, no?

by Anonymousreply 88October 18, 2021 4:13 AM

Anne, Eydie, Carol...Mary Martin.

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by Anonymousreply 89October 18, 2021 4:17 AM

But it's ok for you to use Beaner and Jewess r87.🙄

by Anonymousreply 90October 18, 2021 4:20 AM

Beaner is her name and I use Jewess to draw attention to the fool who keeps using such antiquated old white nana terms here. See irony. I'm black. We love Jews. Old white RACIST GAY MEN - not so much.

YOUR racism is well known here R90 and R75. As is your name. Don't make me say it.

Enjoy the Linda Eder and Eydie Gorme songs that I posted. They are both talented Jewesses.💋

by Anonymousreply 91October 18, 2021 4:28 AM

Say my name, "ancient white fags" troll. Go ahead. Mentally ill freak.

by Anonymousreply 92October 18, 2021 4:35 AM

Beanie's name is Elizabeth Greer Feldstein. She does not go by "Beaner" which is a racist slur for a Mexican.

by Anonymousreply 93October 18, 2021 4:36 AM

I don't use racial slurs so I've never heard of that, R93. I call her Beaner because I think Beanie is equally ridiculous. She is without vocal talent. That has nothing to do with being a Jewess or Mexican.

R92 seems to have called out HIS own name! That IS one sick old white man. RACIST. Famous on this site. F&F.

by Anonymousreply 94October 18, 2021 4:42 AM

Muriel needs to take out this troll, r94 et. al. He's disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 95October 18, 2021 4:44 AM

Say my name say my name!

by Anonymousreply 96October 18, 2021 4:46 AM

Some people just never learn.

[quote]At the same time, the buzz among Broadway ticket agents and other producers was that the star of “Funny Girl,” the television actress Lauren Ambrose (“Six Feet Under”), might end up giving a brilliant performance, but she was unlikely to sell many tickets on her name. Most musical revivals are star-dependent, since theatergoers tend to be familiar with the music; hence the casting of stars in current Broadway hits like “How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying” (Daniel Radcliffe), “Anything Goes” (Sutton Foster), and “Follies” (Bernadette Peters).

[quote]And “Funny Girl” was a star vehicle if there ever was one, with the original production making Barbra Streisand’s reputation for her performance as the comedian Fanny Brice — a legendary run that is one reason the musical has not been staged on Broadway since then.

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by Anonymousreply 97October 18, 2021 4:58 AM

R94 tells the truth. The disgusting one is protesting at R92 & R95. Very strange person. He posts all day and night! Isolate him and you'll see. Unhinged man who uses more than one IP. Is his name Muriel? Or just part of the crazy...

The voice at R80 is the most perfect Broadway voice I have ever heard. Thank you. I've never been to New York. We live in another part of a great big world. We speak Spanish. Only low class american MAGATS call people beaners. I've only ever heard it on the internet. DL. R93. DL is a very racist site. Old white gay men are racists. Most all of them.

We are many new voices here now. Thank you R94, et all.

R95 stocks good mens posts. He's done this with me too. F&F.

by Anonymousreply 98October 18, 2021 5:01 AM

r98/r94 are the same troll. Get a fucking hobby, you diseased freak.

by Anonymousreply 99October 18, 2021 5:03 AM

[quote] Old white gay men are racists. Most all of them.

No, it's just you

by Anonymousreply 100October 18, 2021 5:04 AM

Has anyone actually listened to that Meadowlark posted above? She sings flat a good 20 percent of the time. There is some power to the voice, but when she belts, its a completely uninteresting sound. This should be interesting.

by Anonymousreply 101October 18, 2021 5:11 AM

I am not old or white. Your thousands of posts represent you clearly R100. You're INSANE and RACIST and OLD and WHITE. You try to get rid of posters here who draw attention to your ugliness. Your own words define you. Hundreds of obsessive and hateful posts. So many of them racist. F&F. Doesn't matter. There is no Karma, but you'll soon be dead.

Invite people to have a look at your posting history. We have collected it before and presented some to the website and lawyers. We wear a mask to help with the smell of you.

You are a disgust.

by Anonymousreply 102October 18, 2021 5:16 AM

^^Die in a greasefire you fucking mental case

And posting shit you don't like on an internet forum is not illegal, dipshit.

by Anonymousreply 103October 18, 2021 5:17 AM

If you really are 38 as you claim I'm actually younger than you, bubbe.

by Anonymousreply 104October 18, 2021 5:18 AM

[quote]We have collected it before and presented some to the website and lawyers.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

by Anonymousreply 105October 18, 2021 5:21 AM

Don't show your hand R102. All in good time. We see you.

by Anonymousreply 106October 18, 2021 5:24 AM

See all you want. Who fucking cares.

by Anonymousreply 107October 18, 2021 5:26 AM

I wonder why Rosie isn't in it. She said she would be.

by Anonymousreply 108October 18, 2021 5:36 AM

Beaners & Jewesses & Black MEN care. That's what. You're a fucking ugly ancient white rampant racist FAG, R107. Grown people are tired of your accusations and relentless posts. We can't wait for you to die in your sleep - so we apply pressure for your removal from this site. NOW.

May jesus visit healing to your troubled mind this night. In your sleep. 🪅☮️🙌🏾♀️

by Anonymousreply 109October 18, 2021 5:42 AM

Jane Lynch gave such a strange performance when she took over Annie.

It was like she was looking for her mark all the time and worrying about if she was standing in the right place.

That's all I really remember except for my parents saying they thought she gave a poor performance.

by Anonymousreply 110October 18, 2021 5:52 AM

I didn't even know Jane Lynch could sing.

And I like her, but god does she come off as a diesel in everything she does.

by Anonymousreply 111October 18, 2021 5:59 AM

r109's addled mind is really going off tonight.

by Anonymousreply 112October 18, 2021 6:00 AM

It would be nice if someone occasionally turned down a part and said, I'm not good enough for this. Jane Lynch is a very limited talent. Specific kind of funny. Not a professional singer. She's not the showstopper of a Broadway Show. Miss Hannigan is meant to be.

Same with Beaner. She's homely enough to play homely. But she can't win people over that hump. She's virtually talentless as an actress. With autotune she can sing some songs - even then the pitch correction is not all the way there. Which means she's a really BAD singer. She sounds like Anna Kendrick on helium + ketamine.

by Anonymousreply 113October 18, 2021 6:00 AM

Jane Lynch has done some drama, and she's been good in it.

by Anonymousreply 114October 18, 2021 6:09 AM

Beanie has surprised me on Impeachment. She's pretty good.

by Anonymousreply 115October 18, 2021 6:09 AM

Maybe Rosie backed out because she isn't Jewish.

There has been that uproar from Sarah Silverman and all.

by Anonymousreply 116October 18, 2021 6:11 AM

Fannie Brice wasn't fat

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by Anonymousreply 117October 18, 2021 6:22 AM

Was Kay Medford a professional singer?

by Anonymousreply 118October 18, 2021 6:27 AM

She might be the appropriate body type by the end of the run. MAYBE.

by Anonymousreply 119October 18, 2021 6:34 AM

Barb played Barb, so Beanie can play Beanie.

by Anonymousreply 120October 18, 2021 6:35 AM

Beaner can't sing though.

by Anonymousreply 121October 18, 2021 6:38 AM

Harvey Fierstein is adapting (reviving) the book for this production, according to playbill.com. Did not know that. Maybe he'll adapt it so that it works for her.

by Anonymousreply 122October 18, 2021 6:40 AM

She. Can't. Fucking. Sing.

by Anonymousreply 123October 18, 2021 6:45 AM

Harvey already adapted it for London. I doubt New York will be much different.

by Anonymousreply 124October 18, 2021 6:48 AM

It was tailored for Barbra. When it was bombing in Philadelphia somebody (Garson Kanin?) came in and said the audience hates the show but likes her. Put her in every scene.

You have to wear a mask, trudge through the newly dangerous Times Square and all for Beanie Feldstein? This will end in tears and a big loss of money.

by Anonymousreply 125October 18, 2021 6:50 AM

Sigh. I really do believe that actors should come in a variety of sizes, shapes and facial features and I frequently mourn the fact we don't have as many great homely faced character actors as we used to have "back in the day" but...

She really is very unattractive. So is Jonah, but on men, they can get away with it a bit better but she's really does repel me.

I feel bad about saying that but...she makes Margaret Hamilton look pretty and appealing.

by Anonymousreply 126October 18, 2021 6:50 AM

She's such an egregious case of nepotism. Nobody ever heard of her and all of a sudden she's starring in a series and the lead in a famous musical.

Of course, not really being able to sing isn't a detriment to stardom these days.

by Anonymousreply 127October 18, 2021 6:52 AM

[quote]It was tailored for Barbra. When it was bombing in Philadelphia somebody (Garson Kanin?) came in and said the audience hates the show but likes her. Put her in every scene.

Kanin was the director of record, but after weeks of book edits and rewrites, Jerome Robbins, who had earlier quit the creative team before rehearsals came back to doctor the show in Philadelphia.

by Anonymousreply 128October 18, 2021 7:45 AM

If this is their Fanny, it's gonna be a LONG night...

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by Anonymousreply 129October 18, 2021 1:48 PM

And she can't tap either...

by Anonymousreply 130October 18, 2021 1:49 PM

She taps the table when the waitress is too slow bringing her third dinner.

by Anonymousreply 131October 18, 2021 1:51 PM

Why do Beanie and Jonah have different last names?

Did he take on a less Jewish last name to be in movies?

by Anonymousreply 132October 18, 2021 2:08 PM

Whenever even the least of movie stars come to Bway, people treat it like a huge deal!!

Beanie is coming to Bway!!!

by Anonymousreply 133October 18, 2021 2:09 PM

You'd think the private school at R55's link could've afforded a couple of dozen yellow roses and a tug boat to push on stage.

by Anonymousreply 134October 18, 2021 4:16 PM

JONI mitcHILL

by Anonymousreply 135October 18, 2021 4:20 PM

Fanny J. Block

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by Anonymousreply 136October 18, 2021 4:26 PM

Heather in high school...

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by Anonymousreply 137October 18, 2021 4:29 PM

How deluded is she that she thinks she can do this?

by Anonymousreply 138October 18, 2021 5:21 PM

I have three things to say: 1. Ramin Karimloo should get top billing since he I think he is too talented and good looking to be doing this kind of show. 2. Can she sing? 3. What the hell kind of name is "Beanie?" Hard to take you seriously in any profession with a stupid name like that.

by Anonymousreply 139October 18, 2021 5:31 PM

Who's this Ramen Kimono guy? Sorry, I'm not a NYC theater maven.

by Anonymousreply 140October 18, 2021 5:35 PM

She can sing, r139, but she doesn't have a Broadway Star voice and it's the wrong voice for Fanny's songs.

by Anonymousreply 141October 18, 2021 5:35 PM

Ramin is best known for playing the Phantom in Paint Never Dries. He's not a star - some (enough) people want to fuck him but he's not a noteworthy performer - so he should never receive star billing in anything.

by Anonymousreply 142October 18, 2021 5:37 PM

The only showbiz Beany I know spelled it with a "Y"

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by Anonymousreply 143October 18, 2021 5:39 PM

I bet Ricky Martin turned them down.

by Anonymousreply 144October 18, 2021 5:41 PM

How far away have we gotten from the real Fanny and Nick?

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by Anonymousreply 145October 18, 2021 5:57 PM

Can Jenny Slate sing?

by Anonymousreply 146October 18, 2021 6:01 PM

I agree. They shoulda The Wizzed this thang, renamed it Funky Girl and done a Hamilton type book featuring a binary Fanny who raps for three hours.

by Anonymousreply 147October 18, 2021 6:20 PM

Am I wrong to find this slow motion car crash amusing?

by Anonymousreply 148October 18, 2021 6:24 PM

It hasn't started yet.

by Anonymousreply 149October 18, 2021 6:27 PM

A merely decent singer in a big role can work if it's something like a Sondheim show or Gypsy where the material and acting do most of the heavy lifting, but the book of Funny Girl is awful and the only thing to look forward to are the songs. It might as well be a concert. If the person in that role can't blow the roof off the place with their voice, it's useless. For a show called Funny Girl, it's not really funny either.

by Anonymousreply 150October 18, 2021 6:28 PM

If I buy tickets for a musical, I want to hear amazing singing, not an actress who is only a passable singer. I didn't enjoy Glenn in SB for this very reason. I also wouldn't have enjoyed Tyne Daly in Gypsy. Not sure about Bette Midler in Dolly.

If I want to see great acting, then I'll buy tickets for a play.

by Anonymousreply 151October 18, 2021 6:44 PM

Sheridan Smith succeeded in the role FOR British audiences, presumably because New York Jews aren't really part of the cultural landscape of the UK. Anyway, Smith sang the score decently, when I saw her at the Menier. Not thrillingly, not one-of-a-kind. But she was winning and she held the evening together.

It will be interesting to see if Feldstein has the necessary force of personality.

by Anonymousreply 152October 18, 2021 7:33 PM

Her Private Schwartz from Rockaway will be one to behold...

by Anonymousreply 153October 18, 2021 7:38 PM

I remember in the early 90s Julie Styne was trying to put together a revival of funny girl with Taylor Dayne as Fanny.

by Anonymousreply 154October 18, 2021 7:39 PM

Wasn't Sandra Bernhard also attached at one point?

by Anonymousreply 155October 18, 2021 7:40 PM

[quote]When has Lady Gaga been known for her comedic ability?

Even the RuGirls know now that doing Gaga for Snatch Game is a one-way ticket to LSFYL.

by Anonymousreply 156October 18, 2021 7:42 PM

I find Beanie and Jonah the new Shirley MacLaine &warren Beatty.

by Anonymousreply 157October 18, 2021 7:53 PM

[quote]For a show called Funny Girl, it's not really funny either.

In the film, that "funny" Swan Lake scene is excruciating.

by Anonymousreply 158October 18, 2021 7:57 PM

R158 Fanny Brice was a singer and a comedienne. Streisand is a singer who thinks she's funny.

by Anonymousreply 159October 18, 2021 8:06 PM

[quote]What the hell kind of name is "Beanie?"

ExACTly!

by Anonymousreply 160October 18, 2021 8:08 PM

[quote] Did he take on a less Jewish last name to be in movies?

Everything would appear to indicate that.

by Anonymousreply 161October 18, 2021 8:11 PM

r158...

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by Anonymousreply 162October 18, 2021 8:14 PM

But Brice was homely, so a win for Beanie.

by Anonymousreply 163October 18, 2021 8:14 PM

Tyne Daly was probably the best acted Rose I've ever seen and knew when to hold notes and when to let them go because she couldn't sustain them. She didn't make a fool of herself. I wouldn't pay to listen to her simply sing the score, but the way she played her, you forgot any vocal shortcomings fairly quickly.

by Anonymousreply 164October 18, 2021 8:15 PM

[quote]Streisand is a singer who thinks she's funny.

Barbra can be funny with the right material. Especially when she was younger and didn't take herself so seriously.

by Anonymousreply 165October 18, 2021 8:16 PM

R162 Fanny Brice was rather low-brow.

by Anonymousreply 166October 18, 2021 8:17 PM

Babs' best movie is What's Up, Doc? She was definitely a comedienne.

by Anonymousreply 167October 18, 2021 8:17 PM

Only onstage, r166. Off-stage she was an elegant clothes horse and had a certain sex appeal (despite her looks).

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by Anonymousreply 168October 18, 2021 8:21 PM

Tell me about it R150.

I skimmed through the production with Block at r136 at she sounds terrific, but funny she ain’t. If the book was better, she could have pulled it off, but it’s a slog.

The only person who can make not particularly funny things funny the way that’s required in Funny Girl (in my ‘recent’ memory) is Valerie Harper as Rhoda. If you binge the MTM show again, the comedy wasn’t a knee-slapper, it was a low-key take on the mundane, everyday happenings around Rhoda that Harper breathed life into making the character so damn likable, you actually wanted to know what Rhoda thought of anyone and everything.

If Harper could sing like Block (or Streisand, obviously) she would have slayed as Fanny.

Trying to be funny as Fanny just does not work.

The person has to be innately funny without even trying, otherwise as stated upthread, you’re just biding time until the songs come.

by Anonymousreply 169October 18, 2021 8:25 PM

A lesbian sex appeal?

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by Anonymousreply 170October 18, 2021 8:25 PM

I believe the word is “shvartze,” not “schvartze.”

by Anonymousreply 171October 18, 2021 8:35 PM

[quote]I remember in the early 90s Julie Styne was trying to put together a revival of funny girl with Taylor Dayne as Fanny.

That sounds like a total nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 172October 18, 2021 8:40 PM

[quote]I believe the word is “shvartze,” not “schvartze.”

You can spell it either way, darling.

by Anonymousreply 173October 18, 2021 8:43 PM

Are they going to get Lainie for U/S?

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by Anonymousreply 174October 18, 2021 8:47 PM

That fat little mieskeit is taking on Barbra's role in Funny Girl? Oy Vey! What a shonda! No way am I schlepping into the city to see that mishega.

by Anonymousreply 175October 18, 2021 8:49 PM

What's scary is how this young girl seems to think this is her destiny and therefore her right. "I've been singing this since I was 5!" The Platt family obviously sharing some heavy (get it) helpings of narcissism pudding with her.

by Anonymousreply 176October 18, 2021 9:11 PM

What happened to Lea Michelle, thought she was going to star in this?

by Anonymousreply 177October 18, 2021 9:18 PM

Lea has been banned from show business by every stagehand who has ever worked with her.

by Anonymousreply 178October 18, 2021 9:48 PM

Beanie Feldstein as Fanny Brice sounds like a long fucking evening.

by Anonymousreply 179October 18, 2021 9:52 PM

WHO Iis Jane Lynch playing? Other than Jane Lynch? Is she doing the Kay Medford role? Or Florence Ziegfeld? The casting people on this have lost their minds.

You could say Ramin is good casting for Nicky Arnstein but who the fuck is ever going to believe he’d go for Beanie Feldstein?

by Anonymousreply 180October 18, 2021 9:55 PM

I would never see the show with Lea. I detest her voice

by Anonymousreply 181October 18, 2021 10:17 PM

I would love to see Jonah Hill in a Broadway revival of “Fiorello!”

by Anonymousreply 182October 18, 2021 10:37 PM

R157, they're the anti-Warren Beatty and Shirley McLaine. He is hideously ugly and constantly overacts (as opposed to Warren, who was spectacularly beautiful but mostly inexpressive), and she is a horrid troll with a barely mediocre talent (as opposed to Shirley, who was very pretty when young and has always had talent in spades).

I also disagree with the poster who has said that the public wants gorgeous celebrities. What the public wants are celebrities who have something impressive to offer: either talent, intelligence, charisma or beauty. Some celebrities, in fact, often possessed EVERYTHING, but the unattractive ones who were character actors used to have three out of four. Conversely, nowadays we mostly have the ugly and mediocre children of producers or millionaires with many contacts in the film industry, or else marginally talented and somewhat good-looking people who can't really overshadow the products of nepotism (I'm looking at you, Channing Tatum).

If we compare this greasy Feldstein dumpling with Barbra Streisand, we'll see that Barbra was rather ugly, but was very charismatic, had a spectacular voice and is still a good actress. The problem with Barbra is that she doesn't have any taste whatsoever and is incredibly arrogant and self-indulgent, which has ruined her career. However, when she was properly guided, she was a legend: her collaborations with the Bee Gees and Paul Jabara are above and beyond outstanding, and her turn in The Way We Were is also superb. Everything else is questionable, though.

Now, when will the greasy dumpling match Streisand's glorious heights with that tiny little whine of a voice, no charisma and a barely passable acting talent?

by Anonymousreply 183October 18, 2021 11:23 PM

Barbra doesn't have a big voice either.

by Anonymousreply 184October 18, 2021 11:32 PM

R180 It's Florenzzzz

by Anonymousreply 185October 19, 2021 12:09 AM

[quote]her collaborations with the Bee Gees and Paul Jabara are above and beyond outstanding, and her turn in The Way We Were is also superb. Everything else is questionable, though.

I don't agree with any of this

by Anonymousreply 186October 19, 2021 12:13 AM

Nor do I, r186. Silly comment.

by Anonymousreply 187October 19, 2021 12:15 AM

There were no roller skates in the Broadway production. They took them out before opening because they were a nightmare to use on stage. But Beanie in roller skates would be a lot of fun to watch.

The score is pretty great. Maybe that's why people think they want to see the show. It's a classic Broadway musical title whether the show is any good or not. Outside of Streisand even the original Broadway cast was outstanding.

by Anonymousreply 188October 19, 2021 12:15 AM

Babs

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by Anonymousreply 189October 19, 2021 12:16 AM

I loved some of the songs on [italic]Guilty[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 190October 19, 2021 12:30 AM

Sutton

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by Anonymousreply 191October 19, 2021 12:31 AM

Bahahhahahahha! *inhale* bahahhahaha Jonah bahahhhahahha *inhale* bahahahhahahababababahaha! Hill *inhale* bahahahhaHahahahha! In a *inhale* bahahahahaHAHAHA WIG!!!! Babahahahahahaha!!!!

by Anonymousreply 192October 19, 2021 12:38 AM

Ramin.

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by Anonymousreply 193October 19, 2021 12:41 AM

Beanie as Fanny Bris? Cut it off.

by Anonymousreply 194October 19, 2021 12:43 AM

Didn't Charlie Chaplin get Barbra pregnant during the Funny Girl run?

by Anonymousreply 195October 19, 2021 12:43 AM

It was

MY

roll.

I mean role!

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by Anonymousreply 196October 19, 2021 12:45 AM

Yes, r195, wearing only his derby.

by Anonymousreply 197October 19, 2021 12:46 AM

Did no one use condoms, (Secondhand) Rose?

by Anonymousreply 198October 19, 2021 12:50 AM

Barbaric Streusel miscarried nightly. She was too lazy to even sing the fucking score at full voice. Legend says they had to cut numbers and force attractive men to fuck her to keep her on stage.

by Anonymousreply 199October 19, 2021 1:18 AM

^^put down the crack pipe and go to bed, dear.

by Anonymousreply 200October 19, 2021 1:23 AM

Jesus is my portion.

by Anonymousreply 201October 19, 2021 1:31 AM

Streisand does not have a small voice. I have been in a rehearsal room with her.

by Anonymousreply 202October 19, 2021 2:05 AM

Why did she use a head mic?

by Anonymousreply 203October 19, 2021 2:06 AM

Streisand had great vocal dynamics, breath control and a hummingbird fast vibrato. So she could spin notes into space. Giving the illusion of power. She was gifted with an unusual beautiful burr to her tone - but it IS a small voice. She sounds instantly harsh when she pushed to sound BIG. She's a recording artist, not a singer.

She could never in a million years sing Don't Rain on My Parade like Linda Eder.

by Anonymousreply 204October 19, 2021 2:15 AM

^^You're a fucking idiot.

by Anonymousreply 205October 19, 2021 2:25 AM

Linda Eder? I don't even know her!

by Anonymousreply 206October 19, 2021 2:25 AM

No, R205. I am a professional. You are the CONSTANT idiot. You know nothing of music, singing or vocal production. Next time you get up - sit down.

by Anonymousreply 207October 19, 2021 2:32 AM

A "professional" Well, smell you. You're still full of shit and most musicians/singers would disagree with you on Barbra Streisand's abilities.

by Anonymousreply 208October 19, 2021 2:36 AM

Barbra has a full sound to her voice-it isn’t thin or sketchy as far as pitch. When she sings ballads, it’s beautiful. She’s a fine musician as far as interpretation and selling a song. Even now, she can still sing better than most younger singers.

by Anonymousreply 209October 19, 2021 2:37 AM

For real?

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by Anonymousreply 210October 19, 2021 2:39 AM

Good ok Bonnie Franklin!

by Anonymousreply 211October 19, 2021 2:41 AM

Barbra Streisand doesn't strain for pitch? Her voice is as weak as your ankles. She's a raspy old witch. With zero charisma. A studio singer, with bad taste.

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by Anonymousreply 212October 19, 2021 2:50 AM

^^Oy vey! What a mishiga this one is!

by Anonymousreply 213October 19, 2021 2:56 AM

Streisand herself stated in a radio interview about 20 years ago"I don´t think i have that big of a voice, ore as Ethel Merman would have said am a belter". The interviewer disagreed and Babs finally said "Well i guess on occassion i belt"

By the way ;Ramin had a guest spot at Barbras Hyde Park Concert in 2019 and did a duet of Music Of The Nigth with her.

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by Anonymousreply 214October 19, 2021 3:13 AM

Facts are facts. If you know anything about singing - you would never say that Streisand has a BIG voice. She doesn't. She knows it.

She once had a very beautiful voice and wonderful natural technique. But she didn't value singing. And she didn't like to sing for people. Including herself. She's a recording artist. Not a singer.

by Anonymousreply 215October 19, 2021 3:53 AM

Um, no. She's a singer. I'm not even a huge fan, but she's one of the greatest voices of all time. Pretty much everybody would agree on that, including people who matter. And you are not one of those people.

by Anonymousreply 216October 19, 2021 4:17 AM

[quote]She’s a fine musician as far as interpretation and selling a song.

Barbra is a song [italic]stylist[/italic].

Judy is a song interpreter!

by Anonymousreply 217October 19, 2021 4:22 AM

Her voice couldn’t have been that small on Broadway in Funny Girl. Did they even have body mics taped to their foreheads back in’65 like they do nowadays?

by Anonymousreply 218October 19, 2021 4:31 AM

Puttin' on the Kritz

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by Anonymousreply 219October 19, 2021 4:33 AM

Isn't she a little fat for the show?

by Anonymousreply 220October 19, 2021 4:43 AM

Michael Craig, her London Nicky, made a point of mentioning that Streisand used a mic in the show.

by Anonymousreply 221October 19, 2021 5:03 AM

Someone always posts Leslie Kritzer. Is that you, Leslie?

by Anonymousreply 222October 19, 2021 5:04 AM

No, r222, it's...me...

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by Anonymousreply 223October 19, 2021 5:10 AM

[quote]There were no roller skates in the Broadway production. They took them out before opening because they were a nightmare to use on stage.

I didn't know that. I always assumed the stage production included the roller skate number since the cast album included...roller skates on the cover.

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by Anonymousreply 224October 19, 2021 5:19 AM

Beanie would be great in a SILENCE OF THE LAMBS musical as the Great Big Fat Person.

by Anonymousreply 225October 19, 2021 5:41 AM

I didn't realize footage existed of the original show. Even if it's very choppy. What a shame that shows weren't taped or filmed in their entirety then. It was possible so I don't get why no one thought of doing it.

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by Anonymousreply 226October 19, 2021 5:48 AM

[quote]But Beanie in roller skates would be a lot of fun to watch.

I see you're on castors these days darling, how cute. Y'know I think they're a great way for hauling around big large hefty objects.

by Anonymousreply 227October 19, 2021 5:51 AM

[quote] but it IS a small voice. She sounds instantly harsh when she pushed to sound BIG. She's a recording artist, not a singer.

I'm not even a Streisand fan but if this isn't a singer I don't know who is, and in this show she wasn't a recording artist, now was she?

(My Man, live - final night of Funny Girl:)

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by Anonymousreply 228October 19, 2021 6:00 AM

Streisand was one of the first singers on Broadways to have her own body mic. That's a fact, hon. Post all the bootlegs you want.

by Anonymousreply 229October 19, 2021 6:01 AM

So what r229?

by Anonymousreply 230October 19, 2021 6:03 AM

It speaks to the size of her voice.

by Anonymousreply 231October 19, 2021 6:04 AM

It means that new technology was coming in. Body mics quickly became standard. And of course Barbra has a big voice. She wasn't Merman, but her voice was more than adequate for a Broadway show.

by Anonymousreply 232October 19, 2021 6:11 AM

Huh? Yes, Streisand was adequate. But her voice only shines on recordings. Unfortunately, most of her records are DRECK.

by Anonymousreply 233October 19, 2021 6:23 AM

She's very good live.

by Anonymousreply 234October 19, 2021 6:29 AM

[quote]Streisand was one of the first singers on Broadways to have her own body mic. That's a fact, hon. Post all the bootlegs you want.

A body mic wouldn't make her sound like she had a bigger voice, it would just amplify the voice she had. Which you can tell from the recording is powerful enough.

[quote]It speaks to the size of her voice.

All performers are miked, now. Does it speak to the size of their voices? If not, why do they need mics?

by Anonymousreply 235October 19, 2021 6:43 AM

[Quote] All performers are miked, now. Does it speak to the size of their voices? If not, why do they need mics?

Babs Cook used to do a song in her concert set without a mic. Singers back then projected. Streisand didn't have that kind of voice. That's ok. Not everyone has to have a big voice.

by Anonymousreply 236October 19, 2021 6:55 AM

Barbara Cook was the size of a whale. All that blubber helped to project.

by Anonymousreply 237October 19, 2021 7:00 AM

[quote]All performers are miked, now. Does it speak to the size of their voices?

One of the biggest complaints people have about Broadway now vs then is there are no voices anymore, thanks to mics, so yes, very much so.

by Anonymousreply 238October 19, 2021 7:17 AM

Broadway made the biggest mistake by not casting the greatest star.

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by Anonymousreply 239October 19, 2021 1:22 PM

DLers react to Lea not getting the role.

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by Anonymousreply 240October 19, 2021 1:33 PM

[quote]Babs Cook used to do a song in her concert set without a mic. Singers back then projected. Streisand didn't have that kind of voice. That's ok. Not everyone has to have a big voice.

In the 40s, before miking, there were people in Broadway shows like Betty Garrett in Something For The Boys, Betty Comden and Adolph Green in On The Town, Gene Kelly in Pal Joey, June Allyson in Best Foot Forward - so many others who were hardly bigger voices than Streisand. Even Mary Martin. My mom saw South Pacific from the back of the second balcony because those were the only tickets available. When I asked her what the show was like, she said, "I couldn't hear it." She was around 21. She always tried to get orchestra seats after that.

by Anonymousreply 241October 19, 2021 2:40 PM

*I meant to write "back of the balcony". That's all she ever said. Second balcony was another theatre story about another show.

by Anonymousreply 242October 19, 2021 2:43 PM

A DLer posted about how their mother used to sit outside a Broadway theater on her lunch breaks to listen to a matinee Merman performance.

by Anonymousreply 243October 19, 2021 3:58 PM

That's a good story and I'm sure is true, but people here act like everyone on Broadway could sing as loud as Merman, and there were very few singers like Merman. And she wasn't in every show.

by Anonymousreply 244October 19, 2021 4:34 PM

OMG, THANK YOU, R228! That "Auld Lang Syne" at the end! She was 23 years old at this point.

Beanie should be strapped to a chair and made to listen to this every single day!

by Anonymousreply 245October 19, 2021 4:45 PM

R245 It was amazing - I never heard it before! I was just thinking - that was after she had just sang and acted the whole show, and her voice still sounded amazing. She was 23? I didn't know that. Glad someone else appreciated it.

by Anonymousreply 246October 19, 2021 4:49 PM

By the way, that looks like Jean Stapleton (Edith Bunker) in the photo at the beginning.

by Anonymousreply 247October 19, 2021 4:51 PM

People forget what a sensation Streisand was in the early days.. No one (except maybe her audiences in those little NYC clubs) had ever seen anything like her. I remember a magazine described her unconventional looks as "a cross between a Babylonian queen and an anteater" - !! But it was her voice and the way she interpreted lyrics that was really dazzling: she could take a vintage song like HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN, starting slowly and deliberately, and then let it SOAR. Her enunciation was so precise at times, like in HE TOUCHED ME - she would sing/speak phrases at times, even laugh or giggle, and the audience would just be waiting for that power ending to be released.

The early/mid 60s was a good time for the public to accept her early look: the klutzy/kooky/thrift shop Second Hand Rose thing, and her FUNNY GIRL persona helped capitalize on that look. But those TV specials and her live concert got her glammed up but quick - the gowns, the nails, the elaborate piled up 60s hairdos, the eye makeup.

Here she is at 25, in my favorite performance, literally knocking it out of the park -

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by Anonymousreply 248October 19, 2021 5:18 PM

Because it is. Check your Playbill, r247.

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by Anonymousreply 249October 19, 2021 5:28 PM

Beanie Feldstein is such an egregious example of Hollywood nepotism it's almost offensive. It's like the Hollywood Establishment is just giving the finger to everybody and saying "suck it bitches, we'll make anyone a star if we want to."

by Anonymousreply 250October 19, 2021 10:11 PM

OMG! BEANIE IS A LESBIAN?!?!?

How did I not know this?!?!?

Gag.

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by Anonymousreply 251October 20, 2021 3:56 AM

Lea Michelle will do the movie

by Anonymousreply 252October 20, 2021 3:57 AM

Also, is Ramin getting hazard pay for making sweet sweet love to THAT 8 times a week?

by Anonymousreply 253October 20, 2021 3:58 AM

How could Beanie NOT be a lesbian? She's the new ideal of central casting.

I want to see Ariana Grande as Fanny Brice! I'm not kidding either. She's lovely and sings like a dream. All muffled and hard to hear but with golden high notes - like Streizand.

by Anonymousreply 254October 20, 2021 4:04 AM

[Quote] Lea Michelle will do the movie

Yes, she'll stream "Funny Girl" from iTunes. Yet Again.

by Anonymousreply 255October 20, 2021 4:05 AM

Pia Zadora already did GIRL, r254.

by Anonymousreply 256October 20, 2021 4:06 AM

[quote]I want to see Ariana Grande as Fanny Brice! I'm not kidding either. She's lovely and sings like a dream. All muffled and hard to hear but with golden high notes - like Streizand.

Fanny Brice wasn't a midget

by Anonymousreply 257October 20, 2021 4:27 AM

Gaga and Ariana are the only ones who could pull it off. Ariana would come the closest to Streisand's performance.

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by Anonymousreply 258October 20, 2021 4:38 AM

In what universe do Gaga and Grande read as Jewish?

by Anonymousreply 259October 20, 2021 4:39 AM

She might be a little too old for it now, but Anna Kendrick could nail this part.

by Anonymousreply 260October 20, 2021 4:47 AM

Kendrick is a second lead.

by Anonymousreply 261October 20, 2021 4:48 AM

Feldstein is a crowd scene extra, so it's a step up.

by Anonymousreply 262October 20, 2021 4:52 AM

Has Jen 'Cuddles' Cody complained about Hollywood casting on Broadway again?

by Anonymousreply 263October 20, 2021 4:55 AM

Feldman. His name is Feldman damnit!

by Anonymousreply 264October 20, 2021 4:56 AM

R247 R249

Jean about Barbra in FG: "She was in a snake pit"....."marvellous,brave and strong"

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by Anonymousreply 265October 20, 2021 7:30 AM

Barbra doing a medley of FG in her first TV special. She was still doing the show at the time,so this is the closest we have of a filmed document of the bravura,talent and personality of broadway Babs.

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by Anonymousreply 266October 20, 2021 7:45 AM

Is Linda Eder still married to that gay guy who writes shit musicals?

by Anonymousreply 267October 20, 2021 8:35 AM

Barbara was in I Can Get It For You Wholesale, did the Miss Marmelstein number, and was funny. Laine Kazan was funny. Carol Burnett (who was considered) was funny, though wrong for it. Ariana Grande and Lady Gaga are pop singers. If they thought a pop singer was right for Funny Girl they would have cast Leslie Gore. I can't see Ariana Grane singing I'm The Greatest Star, or doing the Jewish comedy...Lady Gaga...no. It requires a Broadway-type talent. Not just a belter.

by Anonymousreply 268October 20, 2021 10:58 AM

While Grande has a spectacular voice, it’s so pallid. I feel nothing when I hear her sing

by Anonymousreply 269October 20, 2021 1:18 PM

Jennifer Hudson will star in the new film version and Jamie Foxx will be Nicky.

by Anonymousreply 270October 20, 2021 1:25 PM

Well, to be fair to Grande, would you feel anything singing the shit songs she's given?

by Anonymousreply 271October 20, 2021 3:45 PM

[quote]Jennifer Hudson will star in the new film version and Jamie Foxx will be Nicky.

No, at this point I'm sure they will give the lead to someone like Laverne Cox and rebrand it as "Funny Non-Binary Person".

by Anonymousreply 272October 20, 2021 3:51 PM

I wish T obsessives could be cut out of DL, like Anne Francis in FG.

by Anonymousreply 273October 20, 2021 3:55 PM

I wish people like R273 had a sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 274October 20, 2021 3:57 PM

FANNY! TRANS!

by Anonymousreply 275October 20, 2021 6:50 PM

There's something...funny...about that girl.

by Anonymousreply 276October 20, 2021 6:52 PM

Funny...You're a stranger who's come here, come here to enjoy the buffet

by Anonymousreply 277October 20, 2021 7:11 PM

Have an egg roll, Beanie Feldstein

by Anonymousreply 278October 21, 2021 3:01 AM

Have two.

by Anonymousreply 279October 21, 2021 3:02 AM

Beaner has not shrimped on the eggrolls.

by Anonymousreply 280October 21, 2021 3:02 AM

Streisand is a grotesque talent and woman. This Beanie seems unable to match that.

by Anonymousreply 281October 21, 2021 4:36 AM

Put down your crack pipe and go to bed r281. Remember, you have to cover Janbot's shift at Popeye's tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 282October 21, 2021 4:43 AM

When you’re too fat to even play Monica Lewinsky, then maybe you shouldn’t play the very slender Fanny Brice.

by Anonymousreply 283October 21, 2021 4:49 AM

Beanie does look a little like Mimi Hines here.

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by Anonymousreply 284October 21, 2021 5:05 AM

Poor thing has a face like Divine.

by Anonymousreply 285October 21, 2021 11:28 AM

So theatergoers are meant to cough up hundreds of dollars to watch this hunk of man fall in love with Beenie? For that level of fantasy, I say fuck it and just go see Aladdin or Harry Potter.

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by Anonymousreply 286October 21, 2021 12:27 PM

As opposed to many of Babs' leading men?

by Anonymousreply 287October 21, 2021 12:55 PM

In real life some handsome men have loved Streisand, though.

Beanie should star in a show based on the life of Sophie Tucker, or Kate Smith, not Fanny Brice.

by Anonymousreply 288October 21, 2021 5:41 PM

There actually was a Sophie Tucker musical a year before Funny Girl (in the same theater). The words and music were by Steve Allen, all terrible--but they call for a belting lead woman just as Funny Girl does, so BF would still be boxing way above her weight class.

Also, this was about the young Sophie: trim and tight, so BF wouldn't suit that role, either.

She wouldn't be good as Kate Smith, either, because Smith could really sing, with a luxurious tone.

BF was fine in Hello, Dolly!, and that's the kind of thing she should stick to: sidekick parts. That YouTube video of her singing and dancing with the dog is embarrassingly terrible.

by Anonymousreply 289October 21, 2021 6:26 PM

Well I was just talking...because she's heavy...I didn't really think she'd be right to play Sophie Tucker or Kate Smith.

by Anonymousreply 290October 21, 2021 6:33 PM

The Six Feet Under actress surprised people with her singing.

by Anonymousreply 291October 21, 2021 7:24 PM

[quote]Puttin' on the Kritz

She ain't no Stephanie J Block.

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by Anonymousreply 292October 21, 2021 7:58 PM

It's me, Stephanie J Block!

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by Anonymousreply 293October 21, 2021 8:00 PM

Barbra was never obviously "pretty" but she was very visually striking. She was still pretty gawky in the early/mid 60s but by the late 60s/early 70s she was sexy as hell and it was quite understandable that men wanted to have her. Ryan O'Neal and her made a gorgeous couple in "What's Up, Doc?"

But, poor Barb only had that brief moment when she looked great...she got that horrible perm for A Star Is Born and it was downhill from there.

Meanwhile, Beanie has NEVER had any moment when she looked sexy, alluring or anything other than..."plain" would be the nice word to use.

by Anonymousreply 294October 22, 2021 5:45 AM

I disagree. Beanie can photograph well.

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by Anonymousreply 295October 22, 2021 6:03 AM

That's the only good photo of her I've ever seen. I hope she gave that photographer a tip.

by Anonymousreply 296October 22, 2021 6:24 AM

Like most of us, within a certain BMI range, she looks fine.

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by Anonymousreply 297October 22, 2021 6:35 AM

The debate about the "size" of Streisand's voice is interesting to me. I would've assumed she had a huge voice, and that her performance in Funny Girl was near supernatural. BUT, coincidentally, my high school drama teacher recently mentioned having seen her in Funny Girl in 1964, and the only comment she made about the performance was "you could hardly hear her." After having read through this discussion just now, I've emailed her and asked her to elaborate. I asked where her seat was, how late in the run it was, if she knows if Babs was mic'd, and if she meant both the singing and the dialogue parts.

Given all I thought I knew about Barbra Streisand's legendary run in Funny Girl, her comment baffled me. But, then, it is interesting to note that she didn't win the Tony Award. Now, there may be political reasons for that, but it also could partly be because she wasn't as astounding as I've imagined her to be all these years.

Frankly, it shocks me that Beanie Feldstein is the best voice they can get for Funny Girl. Where ARE the voices today? I watched that Sutton Foster clip. Did nothing for me. Nor did Lea Michelle. I actually think Lady Gaga would've been excellent in it ten years ago.

When I remember seeing Patti LuPone in Anything Goes in 1988, my heart beating out of my chest from her singing (Mary!) It was maybe the single most thrilling performance I've ever seen. Where ARE the belters today?

by Anonymousreply 298October 22, 2021 7:31 AM

Streisand is not a creature of the stage. She was known to lose interest and mark it.

by Anonymousreply 299October 22, 2021 7:36 AM

R298 The 1964 Tony Awards were dominated by Hello Dolly, a popular and critical hit.

Funny Girl was nominated for 8 Tony Awards and won....none.

Hello Dolly was a show almost everyone loved...it had a charming book, and good songs and a talented and likeable cast.

Funny Girl had some good songs and Barbra Steisand in a star making role but the book is terrible and the songs that aren't the big hits from that show are...not that good.

I don't think it was political as it was a question of Tony voters really loving Hello Dolly and giving Carol Channing the award she deserved.

by Anonymousreply 300October 22, 2021 8:22 AM

R300 I just meant political in the sense of Channing having paid her dues, and Barbra being a newcomer. Also, she sounds completely miserable in the interview here from opening night. Maybe this kind of thing rubbed Tony voters the wrong way. Also, maybe her habit of cutting some songs, and rushing though others got around.

I asked my drama teacher to elaborate on her comment that she could "hardly hear" Barbra when she saw Funny Girl. She said she saw it in previews. She says Streisand wasn't mic'd when she saw it. She said she was difficult to hear both with dialogue and when singing. She also told me she assumed that this was corrected by opening night.

Ultimately, I think you're right. Channing won the Tony because she deserved it.

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by Anonymousreply 301October 22, 2021 11:43 AM

Oy… 🙄

by Anonymousreply 302October 22, 2021 11:57 AM

Hello Dolly! was a cultural phenomenon. While Babs was wonderful, of course, she wasn't going to beat that juggernaut.

by Anonymousreply 303October 22, 2021 3:42 PM

R302 What?

by Anonymousreply 304October 22, 2021 5:12 PM

No disrespect intended but can someone explain to me the rapid career rise of this woman? Does she have an amazing singing voice? Her appearance is unremarkable. She landed this huge role in the Ryan Murphy thing, but the performance doesn't give my any indication of the huge jobs thrown her way.

by Anonymousreply 305October 22, 2021 5:13 PM

R305, which woman?

by Anonymousreply 306October 22, 2021 5:15 PM

Beanie Feldstein, the subject of the thread r306

by Anonymousreply 307October 22, 2021 5:18 PM

Nepotism r305. And being Jewish doesn't hurt either.

by Anonymousreply 308October 22, 2021 5:21 PM

Indeed it was, r303!

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by Anonymousreply 309October 22, 2021 5:24 PM

MY question is- did losing the Tony to La Channing stick in Barbra's craw so much that it led her to usurp Channing for the movie role? Hmmmm? Tell me.

I know the movie isn't well regarded, but I think Fathom Events should run it one evening in the original 70mm with great sound ect. I'd totally go to see it.

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by Anonymousreply 310October 22, 2021 5:31 PM

From what I read, Streisand didn't want to do Dolly. She thought, correctly, that she wasn't right for the part.

by Anonymousreply 311October 22, 2021 5:36 PM

Who did they cast in the Anne Francis part?

by Anonymousreply 312October 22, 2021 5:40 PM

[quote]Who did they cast in the Anne Francis part?

They have an offer out to Lea Michelle. No word yet on if she's accepted.

by Anonymousreply 313October 22, 2021 5:46 PM

The whereabouts of the person who delivered the offer is unknown, r313.

by Anonymousreply 314October 22, 2021 5:52 PM

So Beanie doesn't like weanie?

by Anonymousreply 315October 22, 2021 7:30 PM

In any other time, the best gig Beanie Feldstein could get would be 'singing' an Oscar Meyer weiner commercial.

by Anonymousreply 316October 22, 2021 7:33 PM

[quote]But, then, it is interesting to note that she didn't win the Tony Award

No, just the Oscar. Lee J. Cobb didn't with the Tony for Death Of A Salesman. (Rex Harrison did, for Anne Of The Thousand Days). Does this mean Lee J. Cobb wasn't good in Death Of A Salesman? Or Garbo wasn't good in Camille, when she lost the Academy Award to Luise Rainer? Losing an award should never be taken as a sign of the quality of someone's performance.

by Anonymousreply 317October 22, 2021 7:47 PM

Streisand ain't all that as a live performer. She doesn't even like singing.

by Anonymousreply 318October 22, 2021 8:05 PM

I loved the movie Hello, Dolly! when I was a kid. Even though, as an adult, I know she's totally wrong for the role (mainly age wise), she sang the hell out of it and acted well too.

by Anonymousreply 319October 22, 2021 8:16 PM

[quote]MY question is- did losing the Tony to La Channing stick in Barbra's craw so much that it led her to usurp Channing for the movie role? Hmmmm? Tell me.

Channing's turn as Muzzie in Thoroughly Modern Millie was a screentest of sorts to see if she could pull off Dolly.

Her performance was "razzberries."

by Anonymousreply 320October 22, 2021 8:28 PM

Do you really think nobody heard Barbra in the unmiked I Can Get It For You Wholesale?

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by Anonymousreply 321October 22, 2021 8:38 PM

R317 I didn't say it was the end all be all. I said it was a factor that might be considered.

by Anonymousreply 322October 22, 2021 8:43 PM

It is true. This fat ugly thing only gets work because she is Jewish. Let is not delude ourselves.

by Anonymousreply 323October 22, 2021 8:45 PM

Ugh I really wish it was that wretched cunt Lea Michele now.

by Anonymousreply 324October 22, 2021 8:45 PM

"Funny Girl" starring "Beanie" Feldstein

A Max Bialystock Production

by Anonymousreply 325October 22, 2021 10:10 PM

Featuring all new songs, including "Springtime for Beanie."

by Anonymousreply 326October 22, 2021 10:11 PM

They've Updated the Songs

Overweight

This Girl Isn't Pretty

Barbra Was a Greater Star!

Lots of Cornet Toilet Paper, Man!

Who Forget To Teach Her Anything Barbra Knows?

His Blindness Makes Me Beautiful

I Don't Want to Be Seen With You Tonight or Any Other Night

Porkchops

Don't Rain on my Buffet

Where Is the Audience Now?

by Anonymousreply 327October 22, 2021 10:20 PM

Barbra has always had more of a studio voice. Even in her nightclub days, she was working with a microphone. Her voice is powerful when amplified correctly.

I think Channing winning the Tony over her was simply because Dolly really is a better role in a much better show. She's not on stage as much and doesn't have to sing as high, but Fanny doesn't get many dramatic moments. At least Dolly has those potentially moving moments where she talks to her dead husband. Plus, it was such a great fit for Channing to the point where she rarely played another role for the rest of her career. She was always touring with or reviving that show somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 328October 22, 2021 10:28 PM

This is an outrage!

Everyone knows the role should have gone to a trans Asian American.

by Anonymousreply 329October 22, 2021 10:35 PM

I doubt Carol Channing was the 2nd choice either for Dolly.

by Anonymousreply 330October 22, 2021 10:37 PM

Where does Beanie sing? Is there a video or something? I still think this is going to seem VERY much like a high school performance.

by Anonymousreply 331October 22, 2021 10:41 PM

"This is an outrage! Everyone knows the role should have gone to a trans Asian American."

Fuck that shit! I should have gotten the part!!!

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by Anonymousreply 332October 22, 2021 10:54 PM

Adding insult to injury, it’s opening on Broadway on April 24th, Barbra’s birthday.

by Anonymousreply 333October 22, 2021 10:56 PM

[quote]Plus, it was such a great fit for Channing to the point where she rarely played another role for the rest of her career.

Sure, that’s why she rarely played other roles. It had nothing to do with the fact that she couldn’t act and had a singing voice that was so awful and grating on the nerves that if you closed your eyes you’d swear Harvey Fierstein was singing.

by Anonymousreply 334October 22, 2021 10:58 PM

[quote]Adding insult to injury, it’s opening on Broadway on April 24th, Barbra’s birthday.

I wonder if Babs will be there on opening night?!

by Anonymousreply 335October 22, 2021 10:59 PM

Laurie Beechman would have been a wonderful Fanny Brice. She was gritty, sexy and vulnerable. Such a pretty voice, piercing but never perfect. RIP.

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by Anonymousreply 336October 22, 2021 11:01 PM

Laurie Beechman lacked her own style or point of view.

by Anonymousreply 337October 22, 2021 11:03 PM

You know nothing about her R337. Laurie was not only a better singer than Streisand, she had a better voice.

by Anonymousreply 338October 22, 2021 11:07 PM

I've dipped into to Beechman's work. She's on a similar level to Debbie Shapiro.

by Anonymousreply 339October 22, 2021 11:09 PM

Beechman was nowhere near Streisand, you troll.

by Anonymousreply 340October 22, 2021 11:23 PM

Streisand should show up, r335, and leave at intermission.

by Anonymousreply 341October 22, 2021 11:28 PM

Streisand ain't it. She's still alive and already forgotten. Unlike Dolly, Cher, Bette, Dionne, Patti, Gladys or even Nancy Sinatra - she is not held in high regard or followed with any affection. Her film work, her recordings and her alleged singing "style" are already anachronistic. The majority of people have never heard of her.

by Anonymousreply 342October 22, 2021 11:32 PM

r342 shouldn't you be busy polishing your two Grammys and Glenn Gould Award?

by Anonymousreply 343October 22, 2021 11:34 PM

I don't polish my own awards.

by Anonymousreply 344October 22, 2021 11:36 PM

Because you don't have any, as has been proven in another thread. Lying little troll.

by Anonymousreply 345October 22, 2021 11:44 PM

I'm not a Streisand fan but the anti-Streisand troll is a nutter.

by Anonymousreply 346October 22, 2021 11:50 PM

He's a hideous troll who shits on any thread about a female singer. He needs to get banned. He's as batshit as that Anscher guy, who apparently Muriel finally did something about.

by Anonymousreply 347October 22, 2021 11:53 PM

Streisand had a much much sweeter pussy, in her youth, than our zaftig dyke Beanie…

by Anonymousreply 348October 23, 2021 5:13 AM

As if you're invested in pussy quality.

by Anonymousreply 349October 23, 2021 5:14 AM

R330 It's well known that Jerry Herman wrote Hello Dolly with Ethel Merman in mind. When it was finished, David Merrick sent the script, with a recording of some of the songs, to the Merm via bonded courier. The courier was instructed to wait while Merman read the script and listened to the songs. He was then to get the script and recording back from Ethel, and deliver it to Merrick. It was all very top secret.

When Merman was done, she called in the courier. She flung the script at the man and exclaimed "Tell 'em to send it to Roz Russell!" and she slammed the door, both figuratively and literally on Hello Dolly. Until 1970, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 350October 23, 2021 9:54 AM

Laurie Beechman is fucking FANTASTIC on the OBC of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. Belts her ASS off. Did she ever do Evita? I know she did Cats for a few years.

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by Anonymousreply 351October 23, 2021 10:05 AM

Now, I'm not gonna say Elaine Paige was better than Barbra at singing On a Clear Day You Can See Forever, but she certainly did give her a run for her money in this live recording from June of 1987. I think this is one of the greatest female vocal performances I've ever heard. My eyes actually widen as she reaches those final notes.

I just happened across this recording one day years and years ago, and I remain astounded. Again I ask- who, under 35, can even approach a vocal performance like this today? The "big belters" and La Merman used to call them, are all but gone.

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by Anonymousreply 352October 23, 2021 10:23 AM

Even if Beanie has talent, somebody, more importantly several somebodies have gone out of their way to create a career for her that would be the envy of any actress in her type/age group. I'm not saying she doesn't have talent or isn't a lovely person. However, I can tell with 100% certainty that if she just got off a bus from the Midwest she wouldn't be able to get an agent or manager to see her, let alone represent her. There are many, many girls just like her and I'd go as far to say with more marketable looks and some with really great talent. The only thing really marketable about her is her name. Somebody pulled a whole bunch of strings to make this girl happen, but the question remains: Why?

by Anonymousreply 353October 23, 2021 2:40 PM

I read that Broadway musicals are very expensive to produce, like somewhere between $8 million and $12 million dollars. This musical apparently has great music and a so-so story completely dependent on the charisma and vocal talent of the star. So the producers have to be deadly serious about this. Who has that much money to throw away if the key part of this musical is completely inadequate?

The New York Times in a recap of the upcoming Broadway season said, "To say this musical is highly anticipated is an understatement." So she has a real opportunity here in that she is so seriously underestimated, at least here on this forum. What do Broadway professionals say privately about this casting?

by Anonymousreply 354October 23, 2021 3:38 PM

[quote]The only thing really marketable about her is her name.

I never heard of her until this thread. And her brother has a different name. So what's marketable about her name, just curious?

by Anonymousreply 355October 23, 2021 3:46 PM

[quote]When Merman was done, she called in the courier. She flung the script at the man and exclaimed "Tell 'em to send it to Roz Russell!" and she slammed the door, both figuratively and literally on Hello Dolly. Until 1970, anyway.

And yet she accepted Happy Hunting.

Hello, Dolly was probably a hit, originaly, because Carol Channing understood the character better than Merman would have. It doesn't really seem like a character for Merman's sledgehammer approach. Dis she really have the personality of a matchmaker? Ruth Gordon played the part in the successful rewrite (The Matchmaker) by Thornton Wilder of his 1930s play, The Merchant Of Yonkers (that starred Jane Cowl). Dolly is probably supposed to be warm and charming, if wily. I saw Molly Picon in it and she was great.

by Anonymousreply 356October 23, 2021 3:55 PM

I just...how is Beanie going to sing the score 8x a week? It's a lot of material. I still see "high school" all over this.

Has anyone ever even heard her sing anything like Don't Rain On My Parade?

by Anonymousreply 357October 23, 2021 4:10 PM

Two of Broadway's biggest stars who got there due to their enormous talent, without help from anyone else. This is what Broadway theater has become - kids with a dream working hard to do it on their own. So New York!

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by Anonymousreply 358October 23, 2021 4:21 PM

Jane Fonda was Henry Fonda's daughter. The Barrymores were from a theatrical family. Broadway star Alice Brady was the daughter of a big theater producer. I usually discount the complaints about people being related to someone. If they're good, they're good, if they're not, they're not. Do they get breaks other people don't? Yes. But that's a fact of life, it's nothing new.

by Anonymousreply 359October 23, 2021 4:28 PM

Many people who aren't related to anyone still use a friendship, a family friendship, or something like that, to get opportunities. A lot of the people you assume made it on talent alone, probably didn't.

by Anonymousreply 360October 23, 2021 4:34 PM

Jane Fonda did not star in a Broadway musical at 28 years old. Jane Fonda didn't even give a decent performance until she was in her 30s. Beanie is the poor man's Anna Kendrick. Clear clean voice - very nasal and juvenile sounding.

I would give the Funny Girl lead to Celine Dion or Adele! And Dolly should be played by Dolly herself. Or Miss Reba.

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by Anonymousreply 361October 23, 2021 5:01 PM

The 11 O'Clock Number:

Gravy,

People who have gravy,

Are the luckiest people in the world.

Roast pig needing more roast chicken.

And then letting pizza pies

Hide all the fries inside.

Tasting more like suet than suet.

Hot dog eating contestants,

They're the luckiest people in the world!

With one sheet cake

One very special sheet cake

A feeling deep in your gullet

Says eat half, no, the whole!

Just when you think you’re full it

Never happens because you’re someone

Someone who needs more gravy

And people who have more gravy

Are the luckiest people in the world!

by Anonymousreply 362October 23, 2021 5:10 PM

Beanie tells Kelly and Ryan that Barbra is her everything.

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by Anonymousreply 363October 23, 2021 5:21 PM

Just wait and see. That supreme ASSHOLE Barbra Streizand will have a NYC concert on Beanie's opening night, or better yet, drop the fuck dead on her 80th birthday.🤞

by Anonymousreply 364October 23, 2021 5:26 PM

Can you imagine Beanie at the Bon Soir?

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by Anonymousreply 365October 23, 2021 5:26 PM

[quote] "Tell 'em to send it to Roz Russell!"

That wasn't bad advice. Why wasn't Roz Russell considered?

by Anonymousreply 366October 23, 2021 5:27 PM

[quote]Jane Fonda did not star in a Broadway musical at 28 years old. Jane Fonda didn't even give a decent performance until she was in her 30s.

Jane debuted in 1960, at age 23, in a film comedy, Tall Story, and a Broadway drama about a girl who is raped, There Was a Little Girl. Both the film and the play were directed by Joshua Logan, who had originally directed her father with the University Players on the Cape in the 20's, and later in Mister Roberts on Broadway in the late 40s, and was a lifelong friend of the Fondas.

If she didn't give a decent performance until she was in her 30s, you're just proving my point.

by Anonymousreply 367October 23, 2021 5:29 PM

Barbra is not generous when other women attempt to do her previous roles. She was supportive of Gaga when ASIB first came out, but she recently shaded it.

She was furious when Diana Ross released a Funny Girl album and even said in an interview: "I just don't like the idea of her [Ross] singing my songs and with my musical arranger."

I have to agree with Barbra on both of these fronts. The Cooper/Gaga ASIB was a direct rip-off of her version, and Diana Ross had no business releasing a Funny Girl album at that time. It was a bizarre move on Ross's part.

by Anonymousreply 368October 23, 2021 5:38 PM

"While living with her father in Malibu in the summer of 1958, Jane Fonda befriends next door neighbor Susan Strasberg, daughter of Lee Strasberg, the influential founder of the Actors Studio. Jane has long worried about whether she’s pretty and talented enough to succeed as an actress. Lee Strasberg accepts Jane as a student after a long talk at the beach house. 'The only thing that made me take her in was her eyes,” he says later. 'There was such panic in her eyes.' "

Just guessing a different girl, from Topeka, who just moved to LA and is waiting tables, wouldn't have been living in Malibu and hanging around with Susan Stragberg, and auditioning for Lee Strasberg at his beach house.

by Anonymousreply 369October 23, 2021 5:38 PM

*Susan Strasberg

by Anonymousreply 370October 23, 2021 5:39 PM

[quote]The Cooper/Gaga ASIB was a direct rip-off of her version

Also known as a "remake".

by Anonymousreply 371October 23, 2021 5:41 PM

My broadway queen husband has tickets. He can’t wait. I’ve posted before that we see everything & it’s not my thing. A good musical is a good musical but I still don’t really care. I’d rather Funny Girl then the Music Man (ugh) that hub is also excited for!

by Anonymousreply 372October 23, 2021 5:48 PM

Is Jonah Hill going to be in The Music Man revival?

by Anonymousreply 373October 23, 2021 5:50 PM

Beanie Feldstein/Jonah Hill needs to do Yentl/Yentoria

by Anonymousreply 374October 23, 2021 5:50 PM

For you R351. The AMAZING Laurie Beechman. Her voice was made for BROADWAY. Like a comet and she sang with such joy.

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by Anonymousreply 375October 23, 2021 5:50 PM

It will always be Betty Buckley's song to many, but Laurie Beechman played Grizabella the longest. There's some distortion here. It's Merv! Laurie was a beautiful, singular talent.

Streisand has never sung Memory live - because she can't.

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by Anonymousreply 376October 23, 2021 5:55 PM

Word is that Glenn Close has realized that she's now too old for the film version of Sunset Blvd and has handed over the role to Beanie. Filming will begin as soon as she has completed her Broadway run in Funny Girl.

by Anonymousreply 377October 23, 2021 6:02 PM

" Diana Ross had no business releasing a Funny Girl album at that time. It was a bizarre move on Ross's part."

Hardly, r368. That kind of thing was done to help a Broadway score enter the world of pop music. That's like saying it was bizarre of Eydie to record If He Walked Into My Life.

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by Anonymousreply 378October 23, 2021 6:04 PM

"And the minute I heard her voice, I said Barbra who?"

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by Anonymousreply 379October 23, 2021 6:05 PM

I don't think Beanie seems right for this at all, but does Funny Girl really require a belter? The original possibilty for the lead was Mary Martin.

[quote]After reading the screenplay, Mary Martin contacted Stark and proposed it be adapted for a stage musical. Stark discussed the possibility with producer David Merrick, who suggested Jule Styne and Stephen Sondheim compose the score. Sondheim told Styne, "I don't want to do the life of Fanny Brice with Mary Martin. She's not Jewish. You need someone ethnic for the part." Shortly after, Martin lost interest in the project and backed out.

Sondheim was right. Then they considered Anne Bancroft (Italian), Eydie Gormet (Sephardic Jewish), and Carol Burnett (WASP, I guess?). Eydie and Carol were belters, but I think the part could be ok with just a good singer who can do comedy and who seems like a NY Jewish girl. A lot of people are ignoring that Fanny Brice was a comedianne and the show is called Funny Girl, not Belter Girl.

by Anonymousreply 380October 23, 2021 6:05 PM

The score was written for Streisand's voice, r380.

by Anonymousreply 381October 23, 2021 6:11 PM

And from what I've read, Eydie Gormet would have gotten the part had she not insisted that husband Steve Lawrence play Nick Arnstein.

by Anonymousreply 382October 23, 2021 6:14 PM

Eydie Gormé is what I meant, of course.

by Anonymousreply 383October 23, 2021 6:15 PM

Was the score really written for Streisand? I didn't think so.

by Anonymousreply 384October 23, 2021 6:17 PM

Eydie Gorme had a much more thrilling voice than Barbra. Streisand's voice was pretty. And small. Harsh up top.

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by Anonymousreply 385October 23, 2021 6:21 PM

[quote]Just wait and see. That supreme ASSHOLE Barbra Streizand will have a NYC concert on Beanie's opening night

Barbra will do NOTHING to take attention away from this trainwreck.

She may even go so she can say afterward, "Well, it was a very different interpretation. It's fascinating to see such brave casting against type and to watch an inexperienced performer try with such extraordinary effort to overcome obstacles that aren't her fault to put on a very difficult show to pull off well."

by Anonymousreply 386October 23, 2021 6:22 PM

[quote]Was the score really written for Streisand?

Not initially, but the score was changed many times during tryouts on the road, so by the time it reached Broadway it had been tailored to Streisand's strengths.

by Anonymousreply 387October 23, 2021 6:23 PM

Bancroft dropped out because she knew she couldn't handle the score, r384. Streisand could. Whatever was added to the score after she was cast would have been written for her abilities.

by Anonymousreply 388October 23, 2021 6:23 PM

[quote]it had been tailored to Streisand's strengths.

I won't even attempt to repeat those two wordsh on the end together.

by Anonymousreply 389October 23, 2021 6:26 PM

Weekend already sold out. Looks like it's a hit.

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by Anonymousreply 390October 23, 2021 6:28 PM

[quote]She was furious when Diana Ross released a Funny Girl album and even said in an interview: "I just don't like the idea of her [Ross] singing my songs and with my musical arranger."

The thing that really infuriated Streisand was that Jule Styne gave Diana Ross the new song that had been written for the movie. So Ross released the new song before Streisand. I would have been pissed off about that, too.

And Ross recording an entire Funny Girl album was just odd. Ross was a big enough star that she shouldn't have been doing other people's material. I always read that she was obsessed with Streisand and wanted to be like her. Doing that album seemed like career stalking.

by Anonymousreply 391October 23, 2021 6:34 PM

[quote]That kind of thing was done to help a Broadway score enter the world of pop music. That's like saying it was bizarre of Eydie to record If He Walked Into My Life.

People back then covered Broadway songs, but they didn't do an entire LP covering the songs of one musical made famous by a rival.

by Anonymousreply 392October 23, 2021 6:39 PM

Did Streisand and Diana Ross ever meet?

by Anonymousreply 393October 23, 2021 6:41 PM

[quote]Eydie Gorme had a much more thrilling voice than Barbra. Streisand

That must be why most people today would say, "Eydie who?" (In fairness, most young people would also say, "Streisand who?")

And why her most famous song, the gimmick song "Blame It On the Bossa Nova," had been offered to Barbra first.

by Anonymousreply 394October 23, 2021 6:41 PM

[quote]Did Streisand and Diana Ross ever meet?

I read that they were at the same party, were acutely aware that that other was there, but never spoke.

by Anonymousreply 395October 23, 2021 6:42 PM

R390 tickets are less than $40.

by Anonymousreply 396October 23, 2021 6:44 PM

For DLers who have been around awhile.....what was the name of that unknown girl we were following for awhile who had moved to NYC and was determined to conquer Broadway? Her parents were bankrolling her and she had a pretty nice apartment - but she too was kind of chubby and schlumpy and obviously her "career" never took off?

We had photos and commentary, so maybe we were following her insta? Somebody should remember -

by Anonymousreply 397October 23, 2021 6:45 PM

R390 Why does the art for the show make it look like Fanny Brice is talking on an iPhone?

by Anonymousreply 398October 23, 2021 6:45 PM

[quote]Did Streisand and Diana Ross ever meet?

Yes they did! They met at a party around 1976. An argument between the two turned violent when Ross threw her drink at Streisand and completely drenched her, then pushed her into a lamp which shattered and electrocuted Streisand's wet body, instantly frizzing up her hair. It supposedly took about 7-8 years to straighten back out.

by Anonymousreply 399October 23, 2021 6:49 PM

I love Beanie. I don’t get the hate.

by Anonymousreply 400October 23, 2021 6:51 PM

R356 I believe, considering the time frame, that Merman turned Dolly down because she'd made the decision to semi-retire. She no longer wanted to take on a show for two years plus tour.

I think her comment to David Merrick may have had to do with lingering bitterness over not getting the movie version of Gypsy, though I don't think it was Merrick's fault.

In any case, I would agree that Channing was born to play the part. Though it was nice when Merman played it to end the run.

by Anonymousreply 401October 23, 2021 6:52 PM

Rare pic of Streisand/Ross meeting.

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by Anonymousreply 402October 23, 2021 6:57 PM

[quote] People back then covered Broadway songs, but they didn't do an entire LP covering the songs of one musical made famous by a rival.

I'm going to guess they probably did. Doris Day and Robert Goulet did an Annie Get Your Gun album in 1963. It was made famous by Ethel Merman. I doubt Ethel was angry Doris did it. Those things were done all the time. Cover versions of any song or show were not uncommon. It's only in recent years that doing a cover of anythng had gotten a negative connotation. "Cover" was not even a term that was used back then, was it? If there were songs that existed, people sang them.

by Anonymousreply 403October 23, 2021 7:13 PM

R397 Careful, mentions of her name (which I don't remember either) have gotten threads deleted before.

by Anonymousreply 404October 23, 2021 7:13 PM

Really, R404? Now I am curious who it is.

by Anonymousreply 405October 23, 2021 7:14 PM

Yeah, it's really weird, god knows how much her parents must be spending on a lawyer to threaten Muriel, but I've been in a few threads about her that got deleted pretty quickly.

by Anonymousreply 406October 23, 2021 7:17 PM

CAREFUL! If the thread was deleted it would be a TRAGEDY!

by Anonymousreply 407October 23, 2021 7:21 PM

CANCEL that art, r398!!!

by Anonymousreply 408October 23, 2021 7:24 PM

Streisand looks like an uglier Harpo Marx in that pic @402. Looks just like her.

by Anonymousreply 409October 23, 2021 7:27 PM

I understand why Barbra would be pissed that Diana got to release the new Funny Girl song first. But she had the right to be pissed by anybody who had done it. Beyond that, why would there be any sense of competition between the two?

by Anonymousreply 410October 23, 2021 7:29 PM

Diana Ross is still a superstar. A lot more people are listening to her music than the B.S. catalogue.

Streisand is a rich old hag.

by Anonymousreply 411October 23, 2021 8:12 PM

Jane Fonda was fucking drop dead gorgeous, had star quality and a lot of talent. She's one of the very few people who I believe would've succeeded in show business even if she'd been a plumber's daughter from Ohio. She just had "it." And as the above poster said, it still took her awhile to hit the big time. She toiled in shitty B movies for most of her twenties.

by Anonymousreply 412October 23, 2021 8:50 PM

r402 that's Lena Horne you fucking moron

by Anonymousreply 413October 23, 2021 8:58 PM

R413 I think you are the moron, as that was clearly a joke.

by Anonymousreply 414October 23, 2021 9:24 PM

Babs was pissed off at Diana and yet went on to record the songs of "Sunset Boulevard" before the cast album with LuPone had time to do its thing.

by Anonymousreply 415October 23, 2021 10:00 PM

Ben Platt's brother isn't a star... And Beanie has been playing supporting roles. Were some of you outraged at Mindy Cohn daring to appear on your screens back in the day?

by Anonymousreply 416October 23, 2021 10:01 PM

"Cats" opened on Broadway in October 1982. The biggest song from that show was "Memory", sung by the character Grizabella. Barbra Streisand released her album "Memories" in November 1981, almost a full year before "Cats" opened on Broadway. The song "Memory" from the aforementioned Broadway musical, was released as a single in February 1982. The nerve of her!!!!

by Anonymousreply 417October 23, 2021 10:07 PM

Has anyone actually watched the film version of Funny Girl recently? It's quite a dramatic performance.

Streisand totally buys into the perception of herself as an ugly duckling and you see how hurtful and awkward it is for her - and yet, she succeeds (to a point) despite that.

Not sure how Beanie is going to pull that off when the current climate won't even acknowledge her looks as a potential hindrance to success (personal and professional). Not sure how she is going to make this rather dreary show interesting.

by Anonymousreply 418October 23, 2021 10:20 PM

The Funny Girl movie should have ended at the tugboat.

by Anonymousreply 419October 23, 2021 10:21 PM

Sorry!! I didn't realize......

by Anonymousreply 420October 23, 2021 10:34 PM

Sheridan Smith was plucky. If the audience roots for Fanny, most of the job is done.

by Anonymousreply 421October 23, 2021 10:34 PM

[Quote] She no longer wanted to take on a show for two years plus tour.

Merman rarely toured her shows.

by Anonymousreply 422October 23, 2021 10:36 PM

[quote]Sure, that’s why she rarely played other roles. It had nothing to do with the fact that she couldn’t act and had a singing voice that was so awful and grating on the nerves that if you closed your eyes you’d swear Harvey Fierstein was singing.

And yet, Channing originated both the role of Loreli Lee in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes and Dolly Levi in Hello Dolly.

What have you done that compares?

by Anonymousreply 423October 23, 2021 10:38 PM

It's rather idiotic to suggest that Channing kept doing musical theatre because of her awful, grating voice.

by Anonymousreply 424October 23, 2021 10:40 PM

Carol got magazine covers...even for a flop.

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by Anonymousreply 425October 23, 2021 11:16 PM

Oh god, now we have an unhinged Carol Channing troll....

by Anonymousreply 426October 24, 2021 12:53 AM

Right, r426, because for the past two hours, there's been nothing but Channing posts.

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by Anonymousreply 427October 24, 2021 1:04 AM

Raaaazzzzzzberries R426.

by Anonymousreply 428October 24, 2021 1:06 AM

R422 She toured in Gypsy and Call Me Madam, honey chile.

by Anonymousreply 429October 24, 2021 1:07 AM

That's two out of how many, r429?

by Anonymousreply 430October 24, 2021 1:27 AM

R378, Diana Ross is amazing in that video!

by Anonymousreply 431October 24, 2021 2:00 AM

[Quote] And Ross recording an entire Funny Girl album was just odd. Ross was a big enough star that she shouldn't have been doing other people's material. I always read that she was obsessed with Streisand and wanted to be like her. Doing that album seemed like career stalking.

It wasn’t Streisand’s song yet, was it?

by Anonymousreply 432October 24, 2021 2:03 AM

[Quote] Weekend already sold out. Looks like it's a hit.

That’s not how hits work

by Anonymousreply 433October 24, 2021 2:04 AM

Jane Fonda was fucking drop dead gorgeous, had star quality and a lot of talent. She's one of the very few people who I believe would've succeeded in show business even if she'd been a plumber's daughter from Ohio. She just had "it." And as the above poster said, it still took her awhile to hit the big time. She toiled in shitty B movies for most of her twenties.

You have no idea if she ever would have gotten the kinds of breaks she got. Maybe she would have quit before she got anywhere, because it was just too tough for a plumber's daughter from Ohio with no money or connections. It's absurd not to acknowledge that being Henry Fonda's daughter and having his name had nothing to do with her fame or professional breaks. What about Peter Fonda? Bridget Fonda? Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Sean Penn, Nicholas Cage, Jamie Lee Curtis? You think living in LA and being related to well known, sometimes very famous, industry people didn't have anything to do with their success?

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by Anonymousreply 434October 24, 2021 2:10 AM

(Top paragraph above should have been a quote)

by Anonymousreply 435October 24, 2021 2:11 AM

Diana Ross had STAR quality - equal to anyone. She was nervous, but fearless. Her sound has proven to be signature. Recognized the world over, almost 60 years later. She was THE most alive performer from the very start. Streisand and Diana are alike in that they both truly became superstars. If Barbra had the historic voice, Diana has the songs people still love and a performance style that was both theatrical and welcoming. She was homegirl & glamorous. Fame made them both seem beautiful. Only one of them was.

It hurts some people on DL, but there are many singers as good as Streisand. Quite a few better. MANY more loved.

by Anonymousreply 436October 24, 2021 2:13 AM

Those saying Barbra cant project....fuck you. Here she is live on tv.

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by Anonymousreply 437October 24, 2021 2:24 AM

r436...put down the pipe and back away

by Anonymousreply 438October 24, 2021 2:28 AM

Babs singing on TV (while mic'd) has nothing to do with her audibility back when performers had to project on stage.

by Anonymousreply 439October 24, 2021 2:31 AM

Move over Beanie. Diana Ross IS Fanny Brice! The Funny Girl songs are theatrical and mostly a bit goofy. Rodgers and Hammerstein or Lorenz and Hart they're not. Lots of people can sing them. What's amazing is that the Supremes like most of Motown were worked and recorded to death - this was just a weekend's work for Diana Ross. Ha. But we're supposed to think these songs are untouchable because Barbara Streusel touched them? Fuck that.

Beanie is not right for it, the show needs an actual star. There are always stars who can sing as well as Barabas Streizand. Her elongated notes, egotistical non musical ways with melody just to show off her voice and the spitting of words is no longer fashionable. Streizand wanted to be both conversational and GRANDE as a live performer. To cover her vocal limitations. Which she did beautifully.

Some girls just know how to sing. Linda Eder, Laurie Beechman, Eydie Gorme or Anna Kendrick would make a great Fannie Brice. Even Lea before the fallout. Not Beanie.

Barbra was in ONE good movie in her not very prolific and pretty embarrassing film career. It was Funny Girl. That she can keep. But because the bitch don't make money off of it - she doesn't care for it. Her life is tasteless, tacky schlock when it comes down to it.

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by Anonymousreply 440October 24, 2021 2:39 AM

Carrie Fisher, MIchael Douglas, Ben Stiller, Natasha Richardson, Hayley and Juliet Milles, The Redgrave sisters, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kiefer Sutherland, NIcole Richie, Drew Barrymore, Mariska Hargitay, Laura Dern, Elizabeth Montgomery, Angelina Jolie, Kate Hudson, Nicholas Cage, Amber Tamblyn, Matthew Broderick, Dinah Manoff, Jennifer Grey, and many, many more celebs (didn't even mention singers, rock stars, country stars, etc.) have been related to other people with established names in the business.

by Anonymousreply 441October 24, 2021 2:43 AM

Wow. Barbara is really bad and shrill in that early performance @ R437. It's frantic and kind of ugly sounding. Her voice was very harsh and far too forward in the nasal mask for the first few years of her career. But at R437, she is also guttural and shrieking. It proves nothing except that she could hit *some* pretty notes. Not all of them. Sheesh.

Babs belonged in the studio. And even then....Celine's voice and range and abilities did come to surpass her.

by Anonymousreply 442October 24, 2021 2:47 AM

The ancient white fags nutcase troll has a bizarre fixation on Barbra. He's not well. Hopefully the drugs and booze will do their work. Soon.

by Anonymousreply 443October 24, 2021 3:02 AM

Wow R440. Diana Ross really can do it all! That's live, and a bit strange. Thank you. Your posts make me hard. I think you are informed and unique. Don't listen to this sad old man at R443. He is upset about John Mulaney. And incontinence. He's always being mean to people here. A sick old man.

by Anonymousreply 444October 24, 2021 3:14 AM

r440/r444 = troll talking to himself with his sock puppets.

by Anonymousreply 445October 24, 2021 3:28 AM

Yes, thanks. It's true, R444. Diana is way underrated. Some us know stuff. Here is Barbra actually singing. Well. And quite beautifully. She's trying hard and we can see it. To form her vowels, build the vocal and use her dynamics and phrasing in a meaningful way - without dismantling the song. She seldom achieved this in her long career. And the final mixed belt was prerecorded. That's her home.

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by Anonymousreply 446October 24, 2021 3:48 AM

r446 = ancient white fags troll sock puppet.

by Anonymousreply 447October 24, 2021 3:50 AM

^is this poster stroking out?^

by Anonymousreply 448October 24, 2021 4:01 AM

I'm watching an Ella documentary. When did Patti Austin lose all the weight? Dinah Washington was her godmother.

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by Anonymousreply 449October 24, 2021 4:15 AM

All this talk about Funny Girl made me feel like listening to the OBC recording, which I just did.

Oh my God. This revival is going to be a fucking disaster. Count on it.

by Anonymousreply 450October 24, 2021 4:19 AM

Good luck Beanie...

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by Anonymousreply 451October 24, 2021 4:22 AM

I'm still trying to figure out how someone becomes a Laurie Beechman troll? That is some hardcore elder gay shit.

by Anonymousreply 452October 24, 2021 4:30 AM

Laurie Beechman is not old FAG territory. That's Barbra, Joan and Judy. As you well know, R452.

by Anonymousreply 453October 24, 2021 4:34 AM

Where is Muriel to get this putrid troll who keeps calling posters "fags" on a GLBT forum banned?

by Anonymousreply 454October 24, 2021 4:36 AM

Joan Sutherland?

by Anonymousreply 455October 24, 2021 4:38 AM

She's so bad at R437. Why post that to defend her?

by Anonymousreply 456October 24, 2021 4:47 AM

^^ This thing at R454 needs to be removed. It has a sick intention and odour.

by Anonymousreply 457October 24, 2021 4:51 AM

You rang, r455?

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by Anonymousreply 458October 24, 2021 4:52 AM

r457 = 💩

by Anonymousreply 459October 24, 2021 5:22 AM

I really liked Barbra when I was a kid. She did stuff like at R437. She was a type, she had a personality, she sang classic songs, standards, show music. This was her original persona and it suited her. She had a comedic, self-deprecating, slightly kooky quality, but could also sing "serious" and emotional. But she was not a pop or rock singer. Or a Hollywood glamour star.

She became a movie star, started taking herself more and more seriously, trying to be a beauty. She became a rock singer (Stoney End) and a California blonde wearing hippie-ish fashions. She did the very La-70s A Star Is Born rock remake. And so on. She lost her eccentricites, her New York qualities, became bland, conventional, Hollywood Hills Barbra. And I lost interest in her.

by Anonymousreply 460October 24, 2021 7:34 AM

R460 Well I liked her with when she had the Egyptian eyeliner and the page boy haircut, singing songs like "Free again, LUCKY, LUCKY me, I'm free again"

Then, as you say, she moved to Hollywood, and crimped her hair. She went down the stony end. She never wanted to go down the stony end.

Come back to the 5 and dime, Barbra Streisand, Barbra Streisand!

BTW Did I ever tell you about the time I saw Any Wednesday with Sandy Dennis?

by Anonymousreply 461October 24, 2021 9:22 AM

I don't believe she was raised on the Good Book Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 462October 24, 2021 9:28 AM

THE WAY SHE PLAYS MONICA LEWINSKY MAKES ME PUKE.....SUCH A VICTIM,,,, OY YEA, NOT

by Anonymousreply 463October 24, 2021 10:43 AM

But isn't Lewinsky a producer on that show?

by Anonymousreply 464October 24, 2021 10:56 AM

sow.....

by Anonymousreply 465October 24, 2021 11:12 AM

Bill Clinton would not have had an affair with a woman who looked like Beanie Feldstein.

by Anonymousreply 466October 24, 2021 3:34 PM

GOLD

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by Anonymousreply 467October 24, 2021 3:48 PM

Can a virgin like Beanie really give the role all it needs?

by Anonymousreply 468October 24, 2021 4:39 PM

I like Linda Eder but she comes off like a Barbra imitator. If Linda had some first, maybe she would have been a bigger star

by Anonymousreply 469October 24, 2021 4:40 PM

Two very different voices, r469. You think this sounds like Barbra?

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by Anonymousreply 470October 24, 2021 4:44 PM

Those gorgeous overtones Linda produces in the above performance are from outer space or heaven. Take your pick. Her voice is phenomenal.

by Anonymousreply 471October 24, 2021 4:58 PM

[quote]All this talk about Funny Girl made me feel like listening to the OBC recording, which I just did.

I did, too. And I was struck by what a shitty recording it is. It's as if they placed one mic on one side of the stage and one mic on the other and told the performers to just walk around quietly.

On one song, Barbra sounds far away on the left. Then, she crosses to the right and becomes louder. Just a really shitty way to record the show.

by Anonymousreply 472October 24, 2021 5:25 PM

It was in the early days of stereo where people didn't really know what to do with it, so they'd keep experimenting.

by Anonymousreply 473October 24, 2021 5:44 PM

It's like those early Beatles recordings, where all the vocals come out of the left speaker.

by Anonymousreply 474October 24, 2021 5:54 PM

Beanie is the modern day Florence Foster Jenkins. This is what happens when over-valued self worth+ middling talent+ money+ connections= legitimate career in show business

by Anonymousreply 475October 24, 2021 7:56 PM

Nobody asked me but I prefer The Music That Makes Me Dance to My Man.

by Anonymousreply 476October 24, 2021 8:38 PM

And I can't imagine Beanie singing it.

by Anonymousreply 477October 24, 2021 8:39 PM

R476 - I agree. It's a much better song and actually written for the show.

by Anonymousreply 478October 24, 2021 8:45 PM

I can't wait until this fiasco opens and we can REALLY TEAR IT TO PIECES!!!

by Anonymousreply 479October 24, 2021 10:53 PM

Some song staging changes announced so far:

"You Are Woman, I Am Man" will be performed in a real restaurant with mountains of pate and a side of beef bordelaise.

"I Want to be See With You" will be performed with real macaroons from mother's salon.

"Sadie, Sadie" will be performed with a real icebox stocked with brownies and ice cream.

"Don't Rain on My Parade" will be performed with real candy and a real ball of butter.

by Anonymousreply 480October 24, 2021 11:35 PM

It really needed to be My Man, r476 and r478.

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by Anonymousreply 481October 24, 2021 11:59 PM

^ She can't even bother to lip synch the song well. It's a big flaw in that film. Barbra is a cow. And yes I know she sings the last few notes of My Man, *LIVE*. There's nothing unbelievable about her voice. It's a good song. Fade to black. Diana Ross and Billie Holiday both sing the song better.

by Anonymousreply 482October 25, 2021 1:03 AM

* first few notes are live.....Streizand was SO fucking overrated. As the world now knows.

by Anonymousreply 483October 25, 2021 1:05 AM

^^kill yourself

by Anonymousreply 484October 25, 2021 1:16 AM

[quote]It really needed to be My Man

More like My Ham.

by Anonymousreply 485October 25, 2021 1:18 AM

Will Beanie sing Sam, you made the pants not wide enough?

by Anonymousreply 486October 25, 2021 1:20 AM

She's okay. It's a drama. Barbra sort of invented oversinging. The endless modulations with end notes extended beyond taste or musical meaning. She's not the best at it. Or the best voice. Not at all.

by Anonymousreply 487October 25, 2021 1:25 AM

Ohreally?

by Anonymousreply 488October 25, 2021 1:26 AM

They cast a cis-female?

by Anonymousreply 489October 25, 2021 1:30 AM

Give it a rest, T obsessive.

by Anonymousreply 490October 25, 2021 1:36 AM

Is Billy Porter playing the mother?

by Anonymousreply 491October 25, 2021 1:39 AM

Is R484 an older Trans female? s/he speaks the language. So nasty and angry. It's a threatening discourse.

Streisand is welcome to her 17,384 remaining fans. They are willing to drop a lot of money on her mean rasping old ass. STILL?

What a bitch she is. Barbaric is no longer overrated. More forgotten. But it was a pretty voice. Glenn Gould was obsessed with the buzzing burr tone and the golden vibrato that was Barbara. Mentally ill people hone into certain sounds and become obsessed with them. Glenn Gould didn't live to see what trash Streisand made of her talents. 🙏🏾

by Anonymousreply 492October 25, 2021 1:41 AM

Will the lyrics of "My Man" be changed to "My Sperming Person"?

by Anonymousreply 493October 25, 2021 1:41 AM

[quote] Glenn Gould was obsessed with the buzzing burr tone and the golden vibrato that was Barbara.

The one who gave you your award lol?

by Anonymousreply 494October 25, 2021 1:45 AM

Christ jesus fuck you're dumb R494. Glenn Gould did not hand out Glenn Gould awards. They are named in his honour. It's a prize.

by Anonymousreply 495October 25, 2021 1:59 AM

[quote] Mentally ill people hone into certain sounds and become obsessed with them.

Like R494? Over 85 posts on this thread are from him. From one of his accounts. He has other devices and fixations. Sick old man.

by Anonymousreply 496October 25, 2021 2:06 AM

r495 we know. And you received one hahaha!

by Anonymousreply 497October 25, 2021 2:27 AM

When she wins the Tony ( which is inevitable), will DLers disavow that show?

by Anonymousreply 498October 25, 2021 3:46 AM

DL has never claimed that Funny Girl is a classic show.

by Anonymousreply 499October 25, 2021 3:48 AM

It's MAME that some act as if it's a classic that deserves a first class revival.

by Anonymousreply 500October 25, 2021 3:48 AM

No, It's...SKYSCRAPER!

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by Anonymousreply 501October 25, 2021 3:53 AM

MAME is DL's favorite horror movie.

by Anonymousreply 502October 25, 2021 3:56 AM

[quote] When she wins the Tony ( which is inevitable), will DLers disavow that show?

Fat ass won't be the first "star" who won an undeserved Tony award.

by Anonymousreply 503October 25, 2021 5:14 AM

See also: Tracy Turnblad.

by Anonymousreply 504October 25, 2021 5:27 AM

I'll give Beanie a chance. She was kind of charming in that promo. I just hope she has the voice.

by Anonymousreply 505October 25, 2021 1:41 PM

I can kid of see her pulling this off if she goes the buffoony-cutesie route

by Anonymousreply 506October 25, 2021 2:15 PM

I’m not a musical theatre fan so I’m not familiar with this but I really liked her in Impeachment. The series wasn’t that great but I found her very likeable.

by Anonymousreply 507October 27, 2021 3:24 AM

Let's just get ONE thing straight before another poster makes a fool of himself.

My Man is NOT, I repeat, NOT sung in the stage version of Funny Girl. There was talk of putting it in, but Jule Styne wouldn't have it. He wrote Music That Makes Me Dance to be the My Man stand in, and frankly, I like it better. When they made the movie, Ray Stark insisted it replace Music That Makes Me Dance. Styne was furious. I don't believe his estate would ever allow them to do the stage show with My Man.

As elder gays, you should've all known these things.

by Anonymousreply 508October 28, 2021 9:31 AM

Wow this is a rare find. Thank God for YouTube.

Babs doing The Music That Makes Me Dance in Newport in 1966.

Not a great recording, but very rare. A special arrangement done for the London production. A new verse added with new lyrics.

It's VERY clear that this was an attempt to make it sound even more like My Man. It's quite lovely.

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by Anonymousreply 509October 28, 2021 9:50 AM

Sorry, but I like this version better than Barbra's, which is too affected and less sincere.

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by Anonymousreply 510October 28, 2021 12:28 PM

^ Sorry, didn't mean to put " less affected."

by Anonymousreply 511October 28, 2021 12:35 PM

Andrew Rannells sings as plastic as he looks.

by Anonymousreply 512October 28, 2021 1:07 PM

Would a Monroe type work in the role?

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by Anonymousreply 513October 28, 2021 1:25 PM

disgusting how they made lewinsky to be a dam victim, dint no one make her suk him off. good god! she is ridic and so is old beanie.

by Anonymousreply 514October 28, 2021 3:15 PM

R509. Laurie Beechmans' version is still best. Streisand should learn to respect the melody of a song. She gets so guttural when she wants to add volume to her top notes. Screechy, to be honest. It has an exciting dynamic and subtle dramatic melody, that song. Barabara is too conversational and then too theatrical. Her BIG weaknesses as a singer. She dismantles the song to show off her "style" and voice.

She modified singing that way later - instead aiming for her pure, pear shaped perfection and perfect modulations. Big beautiful end notes WITH vibrato. In the studio. Not coincidentally, the same time she stopped singing LIVE.

Judy - still trying to compete.

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by Anonymousreply 515October 28, 2021 4:58 PM

Don't tell them about the King's Academy production, r508

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by Anonymousreply 516October 28, 2021 6:39 PM

She sings great, but doesn't look Jewish.

by Anonymousreply 517October 28, 2021 7:22 PM

It's a Christian academy, r517, what do you expect?

by Anonymousreply 518October 28, 2021 7:36 PM

Rannells has a very very nasal upper register. The song should have been transposed down a whole step.

by Anonymousreply 519October 28, 2021 9:00 PM

Yeah r515 we get it. You have a pathological hatred of Barbra. Nobody gives a shit.

by Anonymousreply 520October 28, 2021 10:26 PM

Beanie talks to Seth about auditioning for Funny Girl at 1:50

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by Anonymousreply 521October 28, 2021 10:38 PM

Huh? Stop being INSANE R520. That's right - you can't.

by Anonymousreply 522October 28, 2021 10:38 PM

"It's a Christian academy, [R517], what do you expect?"

Isn't the premise of the show the fact that Fanny was plain and thought to be undesirable to affluent men? The girl looks like she's right out of The Disney Channel. Bu then. her [parents probably would have sued for not making their dear daughter look like the precious star that she is. Egad.

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by Anonymousreply 523October 28, 2021 10:55 PM

R523 That is a shockingly big production for a high school.

by Anonymousreply 524October 29, 2021 1:39 AM

I guess the religious schools have big budgets, r524

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by Anonymousreply 525October 29, 2021 1:47 AM

[quote]Let's just get ONE thing straight before another poster makes a fool of himself. My Man is NOT, I repeat, NOT sung in the stage version of Funny Girl.

Of course not. It's from Mame, isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 526October 29, 2021 3:17 AM

Babs probably would have won had they used Music, but using My Man clinched it for her.

by Anonymousreply 527October 29, 2021 3:58 AM

My Man is too good of a song for Funny Girl to be honest. It was a great ending to the movie tho. A director's choice. Nothing to do with Streizand. She eats nuts but she couldn't screw up everything in her first movie. She's quite good in it. Not a bad actress. She has no emotional attachment to anything musical. She *thinks* she does to colors and flowers and ice cream. But she really is incapable of human feeling or emotion with music. She thinks about how to sing it, but not much about what it means. And when she claims too - it's fake. That's why her music is so lifeless. She can give impassioned speeches from Teleprompters and has donated to some good causes - but the woman shows no emotion when singing. She *thinks* feeling. Barbaric is both heavy handed and not too bright. She is, as she wanted to be - an actress. Not a bad one. Far from great. *

She had the every ability to be a GREAT singer, but she didn't want it.

Barbara's closest to evocative song - The Way We Were - is and always has been sung better by Gladys Knight.

Oh My Man - Like Streizand ever felt passion like that? Nope.

by Anonymousreply 528October 29, 2021 4:04 AM

Funny Girl is no longer the story of Fanny Brice. It's all about Barbra Streisand. Streisand IS Funny Girl. So whoever gets the lead in the show is portraying Barbra, not Fanny. The fact is that no current or future actress/singer can meet that challenge.

I can't imagine that Barbra is too happy that this chubby, mediocre actress/singer has been chosen to play her. Frankly, it's an insult to Barbra and her legend.

by Anonymousreply 529October 29, 2021 4:05 AM

Barbra ain't all there is was or ever will be. She's wallpaper as a performer.

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by Anonymousreply 530October 29, 2021 4:10 AM

Trust me, r529, Barbra isn't losing sleep over it.

by Anonymousreply 531October 29, 2021 4:13 AM

Barbra doesn't lose sleep over anything but bagel belly and restless ego syndrome.

Gladys Knight ALWAYS sang this song, the best. She still does.

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by Anonymousreply 532October 29, 2021 4:19 AM

We get it ancient white fags troll r528, you have a pathological hatred of Barbra. Which is a pretty ancient white fag thing itself, BTW.

by Anonymousreply 533October 29, 2021 4:20 AM

Forty years later and still golden. Gladys Knight.

Yeah, we're black. What's your problem old RACIST fag @ R533?

Streizand is not an old fag thing - she is one to be inventoried. Any day. Even Whitney said - "There will only be one Barbra, there is ONLY one Aretha and there will never be another me."

It's too bad that Streisand pissed on her only talent. But the quality of her voice was beautiful. Bad art makes people angry. Streisand could have at least done something worthwhile with her major talent.

Whitney and Aretha have the greatest recorded popular voices of the last 60 years. Barbra is forgotten now. But Whitney showed Barbra's voice and career respect. Because it was one of a kind.

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by Anonymousreply 534October 29, 2021 4:36 AM

I used to work with an older woman in an office furniture company. There was background music all day. Whenever Barbara Streisand came on, she always said the same thing: "What's that screeching?"

by Anonymousreply 535October 29, 2021 4:54 AM

Clive Davis made Whitney record a lot of then-popular Adult Contemporary shit, which sounds really dated and lame now. Talk about a major talent who pissed it all away - that's Whitney. Her discography is pretty lacking for such a major talent.

by Anonymousreply 536October 29, 2021 5:23 AM

[quote]Barbra is forgotten now.

You truly must be the stupidest person alive.

by Anonymousreply 537October 29, 2021 5:24 AM

Barabaric Streizand IS forgotten. ^ This elderfag is stupefyingly out of touch with reality. Her style of singing and her bad movies and her obnoxious personality and constant disappointment when she did appear has made her a total anachronism. People changed the channel on Barabara long ago. Those recordings - sheesh. The Grammy Awards flat intonation warbling, terrible. The "concerts" - pay for each raspy note and lazy inflection.

Whitney was gracious to include her. They have once in a lifetime voices is what she meant. No one sounds like Aretha, Whitney or Barbra. Don't kill a kind messenger. Whitney and Aretha live forever. Streisand is the one reported to still be alive - but she is dead to most in the modern world. Y'all can't even get ironically propped up about her like people did for Dionne in the last year. Streisand thinks she is god's gift. Her music is DRECK. And she suffers from obnoxious personality disorder. She is at her very best when humming the intro to the way we were.

by Anonymousreply 538October 29, 2021 6:16 AM

r538 you are quite stupid and delusional. People like you deserve as little attention as possible, which I’m more than sure you’re used to.

by Anonymousreply 539October 29, 2021 6:26 AM

I blocked r538. Nutter.

by Anonymousreply 540October 29, 2021 6:38 AM

Beanie is very charming in that Seth Meyers interview.

by Anonymousreply 541October 29, 2021 6:40 AM

R540. OUCH you leaking bariatric POUCH. If you blocked me - then why do you keep harassing me? Day after day on all kinds of topics? A man needs room to spread his WORD. An expert will never apologize - I can only expand on my opinion. I was taught that at the Royal Conservatory. Every day, for 8 years. One doesn't cater their recital to the taste of their audience. Maybe that's why you like Barbaric so much? She's a condescending performer and a soulless singer. Tacky. Enjoy your memories from 1961 R540. The oldest Eldergays are what keep this site UGLY. Happy 82nd birthday!!

I gave Barbra her due. It was a modest offering. Please reward us both with your absence.

by Anonymousreply 542October 29, 2021 7:13 AM

r542 every single person on DL either ignores you or mocks you. You are an insane loser and nobody ever, ever agrees with anything you say or compliments you in any way. You get nothing but cold indifference or ridicule. Much like your real life, I'm sure.

by Anonymousreply 543October 29, 2021 7:34 AM

Ha. You're hilarious R543. How can I miss you if you never leave? You promised to go. I get BIG approval for everything about me here and in the greater world. I wish peace for your angry old face. It is reported to be most ugly. The smell of you can't be helped, but try to be a bit cooperative with the nurse sometimes. Shit is not the place to live. Cold indifference is redundant btw. No one ridicules me here. Just you, from multiple devices. I am often met with passion. You are mad for me yourself R543. And just mad in general. Of course you are many other posters here too. Not hard to track. Or expose.

Every single person on DL feels nothing in particular about me. What a ridiculous and desperate attempt on your part. Use "I" statements like they taught you back in group. With a failed mind, you must harness the power of your heart R540. Please try blocking me, again. For the greater good.

May Jesus visit healing to your troubled mind this night. ☮️

by Anonymousreply 544October 29, 2021 7:50 AM

^^time to change your meds, dear. They're making you even more delusional.

by Anonymousreply 545October 29, 2021 7:56 AM

Barabas StreiZand cannot sing. She's flat and raspy and performs like Bubbie at the Bar Mitzvah. What a graceless performer. Worried about parking. Tacky. Cover up the tit bags old woman. She looks like George Washington on a bad wig day. Moves from foot to foot....backs out the door. What did I sing tonight? Nothing. If she weren't so pathetic, she would be hated. The reviews are no longer kind to her. Time to stop lying about the alleged greatness of Barbaric Streusel.

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by Anonymousreply 546October 29, 2021 8:07 AM

word is her funny girl show is horrid.

by Anonymousreply 547October 29, 2021 8:34 AM

I had an uncle that used to say "Barbra Streisand screams." I've always wondered if people who say that kind of thing are tone deaf. No, seriously- if they aren't able to distinguish keys, it makes sense that anyone belting out a song would sound like screaming to them.

by Anonymousreply 548October 29, 2021 9:02 AM

MONICA LEWINSKY ON BWAY......FUK DAT SHIT

by Anonymousreply 549October 29, 2021 11:58 AM

"word is her funny girl show is horrid."

Undoubtedly started by Babs.

by Anonymousreply 550October 29, 2021 1:36 PM

Could "Buyer and Cellar" be turned into a vehicle for Beanie?

by Anonymousreply 551October 29, 2021 2:00 PM

[quote]People like you deserve as little attention as possible

Is that why you've constantly been responding to that poster?

It's no wonder this site gets flooded by so many trolls given how many of you love to feed them.

by Anonymousreply 552October 29, 2021 2:18 PM

I wonder, in a world where Instagram is being taken to task for making girls feel bad about their bodies, will the song "If A Girl Isn't Pretty" still sit well with an audience?

I think it is going to make the show's time of writing, not setting, seem very dated

by Anonymousreply 553October 29, 2021 4:38 PM

Hopefully Beanie will be this light on her feet.

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by Anonymousreply 554October 30, 2021 2:06 AM

This is just beautiful. Who is she? Almost as good as Laurie Beechman.

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by Anonymousreply 555October 30, 2021 3:51 AM

Fannie Brice *is* black.

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by Anonymousreply 556October 30, 2021 3:59 AM

Why “Beanie”? Does she have Crohn’s disease? Is she gassy? Does she wear a yarmulke? Inquiring minds want to know!

by Anonymousreply 557October 30, 2021 4:29 AM

Thanks to all who took the time to post the links in this thread. I’ve loved watching so many of these performances. Some really delicious Barbra nuggets — hugely appreciated. And the Barbra haters can fuck right off…

by Anonymousreply 558October 30, 2021 9:16 AM

Nonsense. This wouldn't be DL without bitchery.

by Anonymousreply 559October 30, 2021 9:37 AM

The "Barbra haters" are one disturbed troll with sock puppet accounts.

by Anonymousreply 560October 30, 2021 5:21 PM

Barbra haters are a much larger group than Barbra lovers. In the real world.

by Anonymousreply 561October 30, 2021 7:10 PM

[quote]Barbra haters are a much larger group than Barbra lovers. In the real world.

I don't think it breaks so evenly into two, strong-minded groups.

I used to be a Barbra Lover. Now, I'm pretty much indifferent to her.

by Anonymousreply 562October 30, 2021 7:21 PM

I was using the lingo of the loon at R560. Most people don't even know who Barbra Striezand is, to be honest. Mass indifference.

by Anonymousreply 563October 30, 2021 7:39 PM

^^moron

by Anonymousreply 564October 30, 2021 7:43 PM

Beanie Feldstein?

OY! A shanda for the neighbors.

by Anonymousreply 565October 30, 2021 7:44 PM

Lordy there are some screwed up people posting on this thread…

by Anonymousreply 566October 30, 2021 7:53 PM

r557

She’s a crone, all right, but without Crohn’s!

by Anonymousreply 567October 30, 2021 8:18 PM

Anastascia has Crohn's. Could she play Fanny?

by Anonymousreply 568October 31, 2021 7:54 AM

Only *one* Crone will do!

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by Anonymousreply 569October 31, 2021 4:15 PM

When they adapted the movie into a Broadway musical, they shouldn't have messed with the songs.

by Anonymousreply 570October 31, 2021 4:20 PM

My only surprise was that Barbra let ANYONE else sing in the movie after cutting the other character's songs.

by Anonymousreply 571October 31, 2021 4:34 PM

She had most of Anne Francis's scenes cut - how she got that kind of power in her first film, I don't understand.

by Anonymousreply 572November 1, 2021 3:06 AM

She didn't get Anne Francis' scenes cut, r572.

by Anonymousreply 573November 1, 2021 3:09 AM

I am no particular fan of Barbra's (though I used to be from about 1963-1967) but to believe she had the power to have Anne Francis' scenes cut is pure insanity. Did you miss more Funny Girl screen time with Ms. Francis, r572?

What's odd about the character of Georgia in FG, is that it was initially a fairly big supporting role in the original Broadway show and the well-known character actress Allyn Ann McLerie was cast to play her. But the part was continuously dwindled down in out of town tryouts until they finally cut the role altogether before they arrived in NY and so McLerie left the show. Why anyone thought it was a good idea to reinstate the character for the film after that is beyond comprehension. Once again, Georgia could be entirely cut from the story of Fanny Brice without missing a beat.

by Anonymousreply 574November 1, 2021 3:17 AM

Anne Francis herself admitted that the popular belief that Streisand had her work on Funny Girl sabotaged was false. This lie was started by Francis' PR rep, a close friend, and Francis didn't want to embarrass her..

Then, years later, the friend died, and Francis came out with the truth.

IN any case, it's absurd to think that Streisand had that kind of power on her first movie. She was actually quite vulnerable at that point, as no one knew how Funny Girl was going to go over. The suits at Columbia Pictures had wanted Shirley MacLaine.

by Anonymousreply 575November 1, 2021 3:21 AM

Shirley MacLaine as Fanny Brice would've been excruciating.

by Anonymousreply 576November 1, 2021 3:24 AM

Brabaras is excruciating. In everything. She's a grotesque human being. Talented at the start.

by Anonymousreply 577November 1, 2021 3:32 AM

the Anne Francis letter to BS is in post R77

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by Anonymousreply 578November 1, 2021 3:49 AM

True, Barbra didn't have any power to change things on a movie at that time.

by Anonymousreply 579November 1, 2021 3:52 AM

Anne Francis was quoted as saying this: "I have no feud with Barbra. But doing that film was like Gaslight. What infuriated me was the way they did things—never telling me, never talking to me, just cutting. I think they were afraid that if they were nice to me, Barbra would have been upset."

by Anonymousreply 580November 1, 2021 4:01 AM

Anne Francis was lying. Who is Anne Francis?

Barbra had power once. People are ready to talk about her now. A monster of arrogance and narcissism. No one can stand her. Not a single collaborator or hired hand. Or family member. They choose their words very carefully.

by Anonymousreply 581November 1, 2021 4:10 AM

And Arlene Francis was quoted as saying...

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by Anonymousreply 582November 1, 2021 4:27 AM

Thank goodness William Wyler and Ray Stark had the good sense to cut Anne Francis's scenes so we could get more Barbra. That's who everybody wanted to see, not a nobody like Anne C-list Francis.

by Anonymousreply 583November 1, 2021 4:36 AM

Sondheim has been forced to say something approximating nice about Barbaric Streizand too. That proves nothing R582. He collaborated with her. She made him change the lyrics to his most famous song and repeat the bridge, with a modulation. Not his style at all. Sing the damn song and find the emotion within it. It's already there. Barabas destroyed a few of his other songs too. They made money. He LOATHES her. Everyone who has ever worked with her or for her - hates her.

by Anonymousreply 584November 1, 2021 4:37 AM

Yes, Funny Girl wouldn't have been improved with more Anne Francis. It was all about Barbra.

by Anonymousreply 585November 1, 2021 4:37 AM

Barbra's version of Somewhere was huge, and made that song more popular than it ever was. The Broadway Album was one of her best.

by Anonymousreply 586November 1, 2021 4:38 AM

Where's that cut footage today?

by Anonymousreply 587November 1, 2021 4:39 AM

Barbra's version of Somewhere is not good. The outer space synthesizers. THAT album is her last good one. 37 years ago. But she still robs lyrics of meaning and destroyed some great complex songs. She did better with the Rodgers and Hammerstein songs. Sondheim to this day regrets helping her Barbrasize those renditions of his songs.

Of course she never managed to sing Somewhere live. Not well at all. It's not even that hard a song to sing. But it requires a leap of emotion and something more that $$$ to make the audience feel. She thought that taking deep breaths and flipping her hair were substitutes for power, emotion, or vocal dynamics? We can hear you bitch - no matter how much carpet you laid down. There are fifty better recorded renditions of "Somewhere."

Time travel to a piano bar or airport lounge. Any night. You'll hear it sung better, and the lyric will retain some meaning.

Barbra Streisand recordings are where showtunes go to die.

by Anonymousreply 588November 1, 2021 4:58 AM

Barbra's Broadway album is wonderful. Her Somewhere is spacey and ethereal and quite different from the other versions, almost like Giorgio Moroder produced it. A nice change of pace for her.

I'm not a huge fan of Barbra's but the Broadway albums and her pop stuff from the late 70s/early 80s was good stuff.

by Anonymousreply 589November 1, 2021 5:18 AM

Why don't they reinstate the songs for Ramin Karimloo? I saw the Fierstein script at the Menier. The second act is still a problem.

[Quote] Jule Styne told writer Donald Zec that, while in Boston, “We had the dénouement with the trial, the lawyers, the whole thing, even a scene in a hospital. That way the second act came on stronger because we showed Nicky's shortcomings, but Fran Stark did not want us to present her father in that light. We lost five songs that way, including a very moving lullaby Arnstein sings to his baby daughter. After a couple of tries the second act songs for Nicky Arnstein had to be discarded. I don't regret the loss because Chaplin couldn't sing them.”

by Anonymousreply 590November 1, 2021 6:21 AM

Why didn't they dump Chaplin?

[Quote] I shall never understand why one of the new songs, “Come Along With Me,” was given to Sidney Chaplin, who makes every note sound like he needed to gargle. He still plays Arnstein with the same flare as if the character had been cut from cardboard.

by Anonymousreply 591November 1, 2021 6:22 AM

[Quote] Isobel Lennart wrote a character named “Nora” who was a beautiful show girl and friend to Fanny Brice. The actress Allyn Ann McLerie was hired to play her, and she was given a song and dance number called "Baltimore" to perform in the show. The character of "Nora" also worked as a foil to Fanny, confronting her about the choices she was making with Nick. In “Baltimore" (also written as "Baltimore Sun”) the Ziegfeld girls lament arriving in Baltimore (“When the birds fly south to the Swanee star, they relieve themselves over Bal-ti-mar...”) According to Edwards' Streisand biography, the song was shifted to Barbra, then cut altogether.

Shifted to Barbra, huh...

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by Anonymousreply 592November 1, 2021 6:55 AM

If Sondheim detests Streisad so much why is he accommodating her asking for changes over and over again? Showing up to present her with the Grammy Legend Award.etc

Just to cash in and use her to familiarize millions of people who are not broadway aficionados with his work?

Hoping we finally see the purists ligth on a gay cruise when "Being Alive" is presented to us with the "broadway guts-vibrato" challening the eardrums and sloppy pronounced vowels?

by Anonymousreply 593November 1, 2021 11:45 AM

I don't know if Sondheim detests Streisand but... he's a smart businessman.

by Anonymousreply 594November 1, 2021 12:19 PM

Sondheim only told Betty Lynn that he hated her interpretations when she pressed him about it backstage at one of her concerts. It wouldn't surprise me if he holds Barbra's arrangements in similar contempt.

by Anonymousreply 595November 1, 2021 12:21 PM

It will be interesting to have a Nick Arnstein actor (Ramin Karimloo) who actually has a great voice. Sydney Chaplin couldn't sing for shit, and Omar Sharif was a fucking disaster on screen.

by Anonymousreply 596November 2, 2021 3:45 PM

[quote]She made him change the lyrics to his most famous song

She was right about the lyrics to "Send in the Clowns." It ends stronger with her change.

And if Sondheim resented Barbra so much for changing his lyrics why did he, years later, rewrite the lyrics to "I'm Still Here" for her concert?

by Anonymousreply 597November 3, 2021 5:18 PM

Sondheim strikes me as someone who likes to avoid conflict and keep things pleasant unless someone persistently asks him what he thinks and then he'll drop a truth bomb like with Buckley and her horrible arrangements of his songs.

by Anonymousreply 598November 3, 2021 6:28 PM

Sondheim threatened to sue Eartha Kitt for the unauthorised lyrics she sang to "I'm Still Here" in her club act. He obviously didn't hold a grudge as she later replaced as Carlotta (who sings "I'm Still Here") in the original London production of "Follies."

by Anonymousreply 599November 3, 2021 7:13 PM

[Quote] why did he, years later, rewrite the lyrics to "I'm Still Here" for her concert?

$$$$

by Anonymousreply 600November 3, 2021 7:13 PM

Streisand gave the single most lightweight and silly rendition of I'm Still Here of anyone who's ever performed it. She used it to brag and settle scores. Her specialties in life.

by Anonymousreply 601November 3, 2021 7:40 PM
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