The Hunt For Brian Laundrie - 2

Link to Part 2

The Laundrie family's lawyer sucks donkey balls.

"Not a burner."

Sure, bitch.

The Laundrie family attorney says again that the phone the FBI has is the one purchased just before he left for camping, but when asked directly about the phone Brian had when he was stopped by the police near Moab, the attorney says he doesn't know where that one is.

Thanks for the new thread! The other one was so slow!

Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie Case @forGabbyPetito · How does it sit right with the @NorthPortPolice knowing that #BrianLaundrie’s parents helped his escape and they’re letting the parents roam freely around town?

How many millions are they wasting still searching the swamp? Aren't they disturbing the ecosystem, and shouldn't the gators, crocs, and snakes have some rights to a peaceful existence?

He's an ugly mutha fucka! I would have never let my daughter go anywhere with him. Too ugly!

FBI showed up at the house again about 15 minutes ago. Enjoy this video, apparently filmed with a calculator.

Apparently the parents left in the red pickup about 9:30AM their time, came back about 12:30PM, and 30-45 minutes after that the cops showed up, then the FBI.

Nobody knew that they went camping with their son until that dog guy got involved. They never even questioned him when he was home. Then they believed the parents when they said he took a hike in an alligator infested swamp spending millions.

I won't even begin on the police who stopped them and said she was abusing him when she was distraught and he was laughing.

This case seems to show law enforcement as the worst possible way to protect people and bring them to justice. The daily ineptitude is so bad it looks like it's on purpose.

[quote]Nobody knew that they went camping with their son until that dog guy got involved.

None of us knew, but the FBI may very well have known.

Local Fox affiliate video shows FBI agents coming out about 4:20 in the video with a bag, looks like a cooler.

Laundrie lawyer through Brian Entin says they were getting items to help the K9 units.

[quote]The FBI is at the Laundrie home today to collect some personal items belonging to Brian that will assist the canines in their search for Brian.

The lawyer seems to be full of it because the FBI went into the camper while they were there, it's hard to see because this is potato quality but they go in starting about 13 mins 50 seconds, but they appear to have taken swabs or samples. Not just items for the K9s.

I think he’s alive and his parents know it, I don’t think they know his exact location though which benefits the parents in case they get dragged in for questioning.

The preserve must have something of great value to the investigators, maybe it’s gabby’s cell phone or iwatch that could provide some crucial details on location, sites visited or timelines.

What. purpose does it serve to have these amateur "citizen sleuths" stalking that house 24/7. That's as creepy as the Laundries. I don't blame the neighbor for cracking. GO THE FUCK HOME AND LET THE POLICE AND FBI DO THEIR JOBS.

FBI were at the Laundrie's home to get DNA tests from Brian's parents.

Dog last night presented evidence of Brian being on that small island. Specifically he papped a Monster XXX energy drink can and a small purse. The latter is believed to have been given to him by his mother after she reported him missing.

There's an old man, who's a part-time park ranger living in seclusion on the island. Likely Dog interviewed him as to the exact dates Brian was staying on the island.

Brian is going to get extra time for running and hiding like the coward he is. And he'll deserve it.

While the mom is obviously an enabling dumbass, you know his dad is sitting there at night, drinking himself into a stupor and thinking about how his son is an utter waste and has always been a waste. Never had a job to speak of, killed the only girl he dated for any length of time, and refuses to face up to what he did like a real man would. It must really eat away at a guy like Mr. Laundrie, to realize that he raised such a spineless sack of shit. I know the mom will never see it, women like her make excuses for their little boys until their dying day.

If he didn't detest his wife before this, he does now.

[quote]Dog last night presented evidence of Brian being on that small island. Specifically he papped a Monster XXX energy drink can and a small purse. The latter is believed to have been given to him by his mother after she reported him missing.

That's not evidence that we know of, and even if it turns out to be evidence, some moron is holding the can with their bare hands.

The whole thing about the purse is that his mom was allegedly spotted with Monster cans in her purse, but you can't really tell what's in her purse. To me it might be one can but also a thing of chocolate milk, and we're seeing those items in her purse/bag as she walks into the house, not out of it "on the way to give Brian supplies" like people are claiming.

R19, As discussed on Twitter, Dog knows that DNA evidence will permanently remain on the can no matter how he or anyone else holds it. Also he was careful to hold just the top part where it's the hardest to get DNA.

My brother was not a murderer, but the dynamic of our family is as R19 describes.

My brother was an addict, couldn’t keep a job, always begging to be bailed out and rescued from dealers….while my father was disgusted and drunk, my mother was always finding away to save brother again and again.

[quote]Nobody knew that they went camping with their son until that dog guy got involved.

That's not true. The public may not have known the exact dates (or location), but we DID know that the Laundries had gone camping, well before that fame-whore Dog got involved. A few of the Laundries' neighbors mentioned it in early interviews, right after the story broke.

"and the bubble-headed bleach-blond, workin' on her siiiiite - lil Brian killed her, one dark Wyoming niiiiiight. The news loves it when those white girls die, give us dirrrrrty Launddddrie"

Did the neighbors know that Brian went with his parents to go camping after he came home without Gabby? And they were telling the newscasters? And yet the FBI is running around a swamp because his parents said that's where he was? The FBI sounds like a bunch of dumbasses. His parents know everything and are coming and going as they please. Let them do their job. Just like the cops in Wyoming who gave Brian a ticket to kill despite what citizens were telling them.

We have absolutely no proof that the mother gave any more help/aid/whatever to Brian than the father did. This is a grown-ass man who is fully able-bodied and capable of speech. Nothing was stopping him from doing the right thing. Both parents belong behind bars.

I agree, r25. Why the quick judgment against the mother? I don’t see the father being stifled anywhere.

'FBI returns to Brian Laundrie home in Florida as search for him in Gabby Petito case continues.'

Somebody needs to finally tell them he's not there. That boat has sailed.

The parents are scum as is their son. Frankly i dont think the fbi are as good as people think. They seem more concerned about going after americans for white collar crimes or going after people who expose them.

[quote]Police were called to the Laundrie house two times the day before Gabby Petito was reported missing. Reports attached. Police redacted the narratives. Reports say: "Problem Settled"

[quote] And three police reports connected to the Laundrie house on the day she was reported missing -- Sept 11. Again ...totally redacted.

Neighbors have repeatedly stated that they saw Brian after Sept 1 but definitely not after the 3-day camping trip with his parents.

Parents kept calling 9-11 whenever they heard protesters outside their door or on their lawn.

R30 those police visits were before this was ever public.

The parents sound like psychopaths just like their son.

"We have absolutely no proof that the mother gave any more help/aid/whatever to Brian than the father did. "

Pure speculation and assumption, based on stereotyping. All we know is that both parents seem to have helped their murderous boy escape, and neither is cooperating with law enforcement. They appear to be engaged in a folie a deux.

And it is a folie a deux. People who keep enabling and supporting their worthless offspring usually justify it by saying that one day he'll straighten out and be the son they feel entitled to, but that can't happen now. He's now a fugitive from justice facing anything from decades in prison or the death penalty, and he's nationally notorious. He will never be able to live a normal life, they can't save him, but they can go down with him, into his self-created morass of notoriety and criminal charges.

You don't get decades in prison or the death penalty for unauthorized use of a debit card, the only crime he's been charged with SO FAR.

"I have absolutely no knowledge of any hard evidence relating to this case, but I intuitively believe that the following complex, detailed and implausible scenario happened"

Just wanted to import this from the first thread.

Comment from elsewhere on the internet,

Joseph laundries, Brian's uncle, owns a yacht business with two different locations. One is near.where Dog has been searching. Another one. is called Montauk yachts

He should already be in a country where there's no extradition treaty if he could possibly face the death penalty.

If the Laundries had had sense, someone in the family should have bought a boat for cash, and sent Brian out into the Caribbean and told him to stick to international waters and uninhabited places. Or to head up the west cost of Florida, which is largely undeveloped wetlands, and a man with a boat has millions of little islands and channels to use as hiding places. Or told him to head north through international waters to Canada, where the east coast is thinly populated, and where they wouldn't extradite him if he faces the death penalty.

He isn't hiding on that tiny island where he went camping, but he could have used it as a jumping-off point.

Well he's been sighted in Canada so it would make sense if he went there. Considering that it's obvious his parents will help him in any way possible and they've been playing law enforcement officials for time he could already be free and clear.

When the police men and women and members of the FBI appear to have gone to the Keystone Cops school of criminal justice he might never have to answer for Gabby's death.

The FBI is taking samples from the Laundries'camper. I wonder what was in that cup.

Why didn't Brian and Gabby buy a camper like his Mom and Dad's (around 6k or so, shower, toliet, stove, TV, etc) and a reliable truck to pull it, instead of that tiny-ass, claustrophobic death van, that more or less, in its own small way, basically led to this girl's murder?

Because having a van is required to be a van dweller.

The Laundrie Family Lawyer is a real clown. Remember before Gabby was found and Brian was missing, he told the media TWO families are suffering thru her disappearance. Idiot. But Law Enforcement should have yanked the family to the Police Station weeks ago. Just because you have a lawyer doesn't mean you don't have to go to the Police Station to plead the fifth. Maybe they would have confessed to everything they know?...Not to mention Brian might turn have turned himself in if he heard about Mommy sitting in a Police Station talking to cops. There is no down side to dragging them in for questioning. I predict a lot of legal problems for Mommy and Daddy.

R42, so it's a question of "influencer" credibility, having actual Van as a crucial requirement, as opposed to a Camper or RV? Was the whole #vanlife hashtag that important to Gabby's "dream" of one million subscribers?? I guess I don't really understand the motivations they had.. at all?

She wanted to be a Social Media Stah, Baby!

And she wanted to get there through #VanLife

Dumb ambition, but I’m sorry she got murdered for it :(

"... some personal items belonging to Brian that will assist the canines in their search for Brian."

Brian's laundry? I'd like to sniff his used underwear.

r24, Utah cops (Moab), not Wyoming.

There's new bodycam footage today and it shows what happened before the second cop (the first video released) approached the back of the police car. At 4:20, cop #1 asks her about marks on her cheek and upper arm. He asks if she had been hit in the face and she pauses and says, "I don't know." She takes a long time inspecting her arm and again says she doesn't know.

She finally comes up with a story about trying to climb into the back of the van and accidentally scratching herself on a backpack. He tells her what the witnesses saw and then it's just a repeat of what we've already seen, only with better audio and no glare from the sun.

[quote]it's just a repeat of what we've already seen

Let me correct myself. What I should have said is that it's where the first video picked up. We've seen the rest of that particular interaction with her saying she had hit him first, but this new video is fifty-two minutes long.

It is pretty astounding Law Enforcement is being made a fool of because they cannot catch this clown. They know where to find his accomplices--also known as Mommy and Daddy.

Brian was the one who wanted to do the traveling, Gabby agreed and suggested the social media aspect, which makes sense because it would give her something to do and might bring in some money. Brian never seemed to care about money, his parents and Gabby were the ones with income. Based on the IG posts that we know about and the bodycam videos, I think Gabby comes across as someone who was trying to do what her boyfriend liked to do.

I don't find the criticism of the social media aspect of this and all the "dumb ambition" stuff to be fair, it just sounds like aging cranks complaining about kids these days.

R51 = Your armchair analysis makes you sound dumb.. And you also are not from America. Stay in your country. Who cares what you think.

I'll bet his parents bought him the Mustang.

"I don't find the criticism of the social media aspect of this and all the "dumb ambition" stuff to be fair, it just sounds like aging cranks complaining about kids these days."

Young people have always wanted to abandon their school or work and just travel, ever since travel became possible! It's a natural and common desire, so much so that sending your son on a "grand tour" when he graduated from university became a long-standing tradition, in my day kids in their early 20s would spend summers backpacking over Europe or India, or hitchhiking across the US.

Sure, Gabby hoped to make her trip pay for itself, and why not give that a try if it costs nothing. Because kids of 22 have been taking trips like that forever, if social media didn't exist they might have gone anyway. It's just that IMHO the social media aspect of this case is one of the things that's made it a good story, it's on top of the zeitgeist.

R53 = Exactly. Buying toys for their future killer instead of telling him to grow the fuck up and get a real job and get the fuck out of the house. That mustang says a lot about the Laundry family dynamic. They wanted to be the "cool" parents.

This part was drowned out by a ringing phone in the first video:

[quote]You probably could not physically destroy this man the way that he could if he attacked you.

I guess they got one thing right.

(32:54)

'Brian Laundrie May Have Escaped Warrant on a Cruise Ship or Plane, Says Ex-FBI Agent'

No he's hiking in the alligator and snake infested swamp with Elvis! His parents said so!

It was nice of Mommy to take Brian shopping and camping after he got home from thumping on Gabby and having to talk his way out of the cops arresting him. Mommy and Daddy are proud of their little angel.

How easy would it be for him to take one of his family's yachts and float over to another country?

2 more songs to add to the playlist to blast from a helicopter's loudspeaker to drive Brian into surrendering:

* Who Let the Dogs Out?

* I Fought The Law And The Law Won

(Song titles have each word capitalized. No "Oh Dear" is needed)

Brian's uncle sells boats according to a poster on Reddit.

Families don’t just become criminals because a kid has. The parents are into some private shit. You know who gets treated like this? People with mafia ties.

It's plausible that the parents have a few lightly sketchy business endeavors and they thought (wrongly) that Brian running off would keep the police from paying too much attention to them.

I also think they could have happily bought into some lie Brian told them about how Gabby was abusive and he needed to get away before she returned.

But every time I start speculating about various scenarios, I always come back to the week they spent clearing out the storage unit. I hate to say it but it just really feels like planning or premeditation.

Now that they've released a second officer's bodycam footage from the Moab stop, we know that Gabby told the police that Brian had hit her and scratched her face.

Later of course the officers ask Brian about a scratch on his face. Again, like I said in one of the other threads, they were pulling a both-sides thing to try to make it seem like both were abusing each other.

Super suspicious that the first bodycam footage had the part where Gabby says she was hit edited out.

They are the ultimate Long Island parents. It's two counties full of grifting amoral psychopaths.

[quote]Super suspicious that the first bodycam footage had the part where Gabby says she was hit edited out.

The cop whose bodycam recorded the first video is standing farther away and what she’s saying is partially obscured by traffic noise, but it’s there.

What is odd is that the version uploaded this morning by Fox 13 in Tampa removes the first ten minutes, i.e., the whole discussion of hitting, and starts with the cop is getting water bottles for her. Compare this video with the one at R48.

Really, it's on there? I must have missed it. My fault for being stubborn about headphones, probably.

Laundrie family lawyer says Brian's sister Cassie was at the Fort De Soto campground with the rest of the family earlier in September.

Cassie previously said in an interview that she hadn't seen Brian since he came back from the trip with Gabby.

What a family. Jeez.

To be hiding in the states is completely idiotic. He had to leave the country. He's the most wanted man in the US.

Sounds like this attorney should take his own advice, and keep his fucking mouth shut.

Being that after millions of dollars lost in the fruitless swamp search the FBI needs to ask Brian's family for further tips. He could be using his survivalist skills hiding out on Tom Sawyer Island in the Magic Kingdom.

The idiots blasting bullhorns in front of the Laundrie home and disturbing the peace of the entire neighborhood 24/7 are MAGAtards. I guess this is example of their inter-election activities. To be more specific, it may just be this mouth-breather and his mom.

I love that this attorney is a hot mess, r70.

They're not all MAGA but that grifter and his group absolutely are, r72. He's apparently notorious for causing massive problems at protests. He picks fights, which he's already done at least once, going into a neighbor's yard and hassling him. The neighbor pushed him away, supposedly to get him off his yard, and the whiny MAGA grifter called the cops and got the neighbor arrested.

exactly what do they think they are accomplishing?

I can see a scenario where both Gabby and Brian had scratch marks, etc. However, wouldn’t she have inflicted them on Brian if she was defending herself? Maybe she looked at it as a mutual fight, or her fault, but the police should know better. By a huge percentage, domestic violence ends up with the man killing/inflicting damage on the woman.

R68, Cassie weighs about 275. Wtf would she be doing camping? Hot, humid, sweaty. Zero fat people enjoy camping. Why was she there?

To say goodbye to her little brother before he took a run for the border, I'm guessing.

The Sister's kids and boyfriend weren't there, either. Obviously, this camping trip was a "family crisis" meeting, convened in order to concoct the best way to get Brian outta Dodge.

"Being that after millions of dollars lost in the fruitless swamp search"

We have no idea whether it was "fruitless" or not. Do you really think the FBI is going to call a press conference and hold up items of evidence, like, "Hey, Public-- look what we found today!" If this *is* a two-pronged investigation, and they are trying to link Gabby to the lesbian couple (which I believe they are), they are going to hold their cards as close to the vest as possible, so Laundrie doesn't find out and do something desperate. They want him alive.

Police should arrest those maga assholes outside the Laundrie home. I saw the video of the neighbor snapping. He was goaded by the magas who are STUNT QUEENS. Loud mouth assholes. How interesting even the Laundrie neighbors are arrested before the fucking garbage Laundries!

When the mom maga screamed at the neighbor, I thought of Jeffery Spaide. Pow! “You should have kept your fucking mouth shut”

Those “protestors” look like the weirdo types that would show up at post offices and stand there and video saying they were “auditing” . Why aren’t they being arrested?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say they're not being arrested because the cops agree with their politics.

[quote]Maybe she looked at it as a mutual fight, or her fault, but the police should know better.

The bearded cop has been in law enforcement his entire adult life and used to be a police chief….a very disillusioned one.

R81 Yeah that whole confrontation was the Goys vs. Jeff Spaide 2.0 (except without a gun/murder.)

.We have no idea whether it was "fruitless" or not.'

The entire country was wondering what they were doing in that swamp. They said it was because his parents told them he was taking a hike among the alligators. The FBI looked like fools coming up with nothing spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a day. Usually press conferences are held to say they have possible clues so that people know progress is being made.

Even Sheriff Judd of Tampa Bay said at a press conference they would have not handled the situation the way it was handled. For him to publicly criticize law enforcement colleagues you know he thinks they were a bunch of idiots or he would have said nothing allowing them to do things the way they saw fit without judgement.

He had a lot of time on his hands.

Not a great summary at R48.

Part of the police conversation:

[quote]So there’s two people that came to us and said they saw him hit you… there’s two people saying they saw him punch you… just independent witnesses by Moonflower

She was afraid to tell them the truth and she took responsibility for everything which is normal in abusive relationships.

Two Twitter comments replying to the video:

[quote]Abusive men beat you down, isolate you, then love bomb you so you’re under the impression that their behavior is a one time thing. They drag you to your lowest so you don’t realize you can escape. They also threaten your life/theirs if nothing else works to keep you around.

[quote]Exactly, &before you know it you're in this neverending cycle of just trying to pretend it never happened, u surpress the thought of it b/c that's so much easier than being put down for the 100th time and there's no dealing with their rage, it's always you're fault. Never again.

(note: this is only part of the video)

This was one of the replies

[quote]At 41:55, the officer even acknowledges how women often go back to their abuser, the situation gets worse, and they end up getting killed. He says he can’t see it happening in this situation, but he doesn’t have a crystal ball. Just chilling 😔

If he'd just tried to take the van (and her phone) and leave her behind, she had ample reason to lie and downplay what he'd done, because she would have been afraid he'd get mad and hit and abandon her again.

I don't have time to go through it again so please feel free to correct me if I'm off on the timeline, but I think she says early on he hit her and scratched her face, then later modifies her story to try to make it seem like it was both of them doing some light hitting, it wasn't that bad, he didn't really do much of anything. She may have realized the situation was going south and was trying to get the cops out of there quicker before Brian got really riled up again.

She's horribly distraught while he's chuckling and the police think everything's probably going to be ok.

Reddit comment:

[quote]Someone made a post here earlier today, wish I could find it. They had a theory that was ridiculed. And they mentioned that Gaby was given a citation and had to show up at court, zoom court on the 27th. Everyone said this person had their facts wrong because she was not charged with anything at all. Just wanted to note. This person was correct, Gabby was not charged but she WAS cited. And she WAS going to be live at virtual court. The lawyer on JB's thing confirmed it.

JB is the guy on WLFA who does livestreams on YouTube.

^

[quote]The persons theory I believe was that Gabby may have hinted at possibly speaking up at her court appointment, which could have escalated any arguments.

All these drips and drabs of "new information" makes it all seem like bullshit. This story is quickly running out of gas, and those youtube "newscasters" and the Reddit Frausleuths who are working "8 hour shifts" on the case, are now making shit up, desperate to keep it going.

If nothing else comes from the conclusion of this case, the videos have education value. Very depressing. I hope he's found soon.

Wow.

R96, This video is the very definition of "Wow."

She flew from PA to FL to deliver flowers and a laundry basket, as one does, and flew into the rage at r96 when she saw the blinds move.

Saw a youtube - a longass 1+ hour stream one, but the cover had a photo of Brian in high school - and he had a fat doughy face. (pix of sister and high-school Gabby too - youtuber's name is iCkEdMeL.

Anyway, reminds me of Chris Watts. Fat, out-of-shape loser, goes to the gym and shapes up, then thinks he's the shit now and on top of the world... only to bring it crashing down on himself. Ugly moron.

Should have added, ugly EVIL moron

Link for the above cited YouTube video.

That crazy chick above sounds like Rosie O'Donnell.

I thought the video was surely a parody, then I read the comments praising and encouraging this scary and whack-ass behavior. Someone's gonna wind up getting hurt/possibly killed. How long before one these "protestors" tackles Mrs Laundrie when she checks the mail?

After seeing her panic about how far she’ll have to go to pick him up and saying she never really drives the van, I’m wondering how much of this was actually her idea.

A get-rich-quick scheme using her face and labor seems more in keeping with his character. He gets to travel around and avoid adulthood while he pressures her to come up with new content, edit it, and market it while simultaneously trashing her self-esteem and telling her she fails at everything and is ruining “her” influencer dreams. This, after he gave up his whole summer to drive the van and support her!

She spends more and more time working on it hoping to gain his approval and he just rages because now she isn’t paying attention to him 24 hours a day.

“Gabby never goes outside.”

"Because kids of 22 have been taking trips"

Even though she acts like a 6-yr. old she's not a kid.

I can't believe 16 cops spent an hour on that slapfest. Nothing else to do in Rattlesnake Bend?

Eh, the Laundrie saga sadly lacks the piquancy of the murdered Dallas gay man or the Atlanta park lesbian & her dog. Have either of these cases been solved?

Update from the "Wow" woman who left flowers, laundry detergent, etc in a laundry basket in front of the Laundrie's home::

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Now CNN has Randi Kaye posted up outside the Laundrie home along with this guy, whose Twitter followers have exploded from 26K pre-Laundrie to 228K and still climbing. Along with the assorted nutcase “protesters” who camp out there it must be quite a jolly scene. The neighbors should charge rent to allow these people on their property.

R96, just going to post that from Reddit. The broad is a wack job. She looks like the type that would blow Dog the Bounty Hunter in back of a Wendy’s dumpster.

Brian's sister is a real lard. Did she eat Brian? Has anyone checked her septic system for his remains?

USA seems totally degenerate with these creepy citizen this and citizen that. Dont people have jobs?

R98, that was like TOTAL mental illness. She needs to be in a John Waters movie. Or White Lotus season 2.

r111 its just Florida. These people are typical trash from New York who come to Florida with a little money, they don't have to work real jobs and just use up the states resources with bullshit like this. They are total leeches.

If they don't have any significant leads in a few days, the news cycle will move on. Interest in the story will drop off significantly and the chances of them finding him will also decline.

R111, my thoughts exactly. I was looking at the Reddit sub, and many of these folks are treating this investigation very, very personally... Like it's a job (got my Starbucks n' ready to get back at it!)

It makes me wonder about these people, their jobs(?), and their personal lives. Christ.

Just Curious ----->> Do the "protesters" have GoFunder Begging set up?....Someone is footing their bills.

Twitter poster has interesting theories about some of the characters in this case. Was it possible for Brian to drive alone from where Gabby's body was found all the way back to FL in the time frame given?

Also more info on both the US veteran and neighbor arrested for assaulting the protester and that same protester who called LE on him.

Could this tale get any crazier?

R116, Continued,

Alternative NOAA @altNOAA This is connected to the Laundrie investigation. I've blocked the name and won't say anything else about it because I suspect there is a reason the FBI isn't putting this on the news. But, there seems to be more happening with investigation than people realize. He had help.

Name on government watch list blocked but there's a copy at the above Twitter link.

These two cuties have become emblematic of the aimless Zoomers flopping on their parents' couch cuz they won't do no boring-ass job. Stay tuned!

R116, Continued,

Alternative NOAA @altNOAA · I would challenge anyone who believes it's possible to try driving solo from Tetons to North Port in 36-hours, but it it isn't safe so I won't. It's also not possible. #BrianLaundrie had help. There had to be a second driver.

Alternative NOAA Retweeted Alternative NOAA @altNOAA · Replying to @Joannaknows

He's also a week behind that bureaucracy pretending to search an area that has already been cleared. It only has value to him as he plays to an ignorant audience while trying to launch a new TV series on the back of a young woman's death.

I don't agree that the chances of finding him will go down once this gets out of the news, I think it'll increase, because the interference on this case is sky-high right now.

[quote]I thought the video was surely a parody, then I read the comments praising and encouraging this scary and whack-ass behavior.

There are so many people in Twitter and Reddit comments who are absolutely over-invested in this, they talk constantly about how they're shaking, nauseated, can't sleep. They got the idea that this could be solved online and now they don't want to stop "looking for clues."

On top of that there are a lot of MRAs, incels, MAGAts, and other assorted trash who gravitated to this story when they first thought Gabby had been the aggressor and Brian was an innocent, delicate, pasty white trash flower. There were other trolls using the "you only care because she's blonde" angle to start troll threads. They're still around and they're causing enough of a fuss that other usually normal people are sticking around, trying to combat the trolling.

We had MRAs on here of course, they always show up in a crime thread like this, but there was also someone who spent days posting "who cares?" replies and new threads, hoping to cause fights and distractions. This crime is a troll magnet.

I am shocked — utterly shocked — that she went creeping around this other house.

R122 = She has an ATTENTION FETISH. She wants it but is too lazy for an OnlyFans.

Sounds like Gabby went nuts and started slapping him, and he basically had to fight her off. I'm sure it wasn't the first time. She seems really unstable to me. I can totally imagine her hanging herself or otherwise committing suicide.

You're so right, R124. It's clear that Brian is the real victim here. Now the poor thing is running like a dog through the Everglades.

r124 has no concept of domestic abuse and the signs of it.

r126 has no concept of trolling and the signs of it.

Actually, R127, there are people here who will post shit like R124 in all seriousness.

Because no marginally attractive man can ever be guilty in their eyes.

The guy who says she probably hung herself was on the earlier threads, too. Lonely, I guess.

I do not believe the cops will let another week pass without throwing someone in a cell. Mommy better get her toothbrush ready.

[quote]The parents sound like psychopaths just like their son.

I think they're tremendous.

R117: Embedded tweet from Godlikeproductions.com? They like to discuss "UFOs, secret societies, etc." Highly "Q"uestionable site.

[quote] I can totally imagine her hanging herself or otherwise committing suicide.

Her best trick was burying herself. After she died. 🙄

A lot of what that person posts is questionable stuff that they pretend is actual evidence or real facts, r132. They've done that on a lot of threads about crimes, it gets real old real quick.

Actually I believe there are men who are such psychos they make the women who love them sick and hysterical and insecure women can't leave them. They are such nasty manipulative fucks. My father was exactly like that. And my mother wouldn't leave him. Of course the only answer was me taking a shotgun and blowing his head off which I didn't. Much to my eternal regret..

He has a big nose and large hands. It was the dickmatization what killed her.

I finally watched Gabby's #vanlife video on YouTube, the sum total of her social media goals. It's very sad, she's portraying their life on the go, as this hyper-romantic adventure, multiple kisses, Sushi, handstands on the beach, arcade games, etc when it was clearly nothing like that, at all. The opposite, in fact. It's pretty upsetting to think about, that this young girl idealized her situation like that, so deliberately, a true facade.

It seems like the blow up at the Mexican restaurant was what led to her death. The same evening, her mother got a text, purportedly from Gabby, who referred to her Grandfather as "Stan". Gotta think she was dead by then.

Also, just how long does it take to drive from Wyoming to Florida?

According to google maps, it's about 2000-plus miles from Wyoming to Florida, depending on where you start or finish. and by car it takes 30-odd hours without stopping. Of course none of us elderfarts could drive that far without stopping to rest, but Brian L. is at the age when a person can stay up all night with no ill effects... even if he wasn't highly motivated to get back to the only people on Earth who'd help him.

So I would say that it's... possible that Brian drove all that way in 36 hours, give or take a few.

Yup I can see him doing that, r138, especially will the help of pharmaceuticals.

Posting this Tweet only because there was an earlier question of how the Laundrie's made their money, Barbara Allen @Barbara45191823 Have you guys looked into the parents real estate deals. They flipped one house last summer for $144,000 bought a few months earlier for $99,000. Also another one a few years before that. I wonder how many properties they own, he could hide in?

Myfavoritecakeisdonuts @Doozeydozen Has anyone got an idea why BL supposedly was in Benton, ILL? It’s way out of the way and not much is there

Linda Whiteside @lindawhiteside ·@MerlG_Official If you map the fastest driving route from Grand a Tetons to North Port FL, the route goes directly through Benton, IL.

Ugh, “with” at r139. I’m full of typos today.

[quote]Posting this Tweet only because there was an earlier question of how the Laundrie's made their money

I mentioned the real estate in the last thread. This screenshot is from the Sarasota County Clerk's office.

^ I also said:

[quote]This isn't a lot of space for four adults and a home-based business.

^ BL's father owns a juicer sales & repair business

[quote]BL's father owns a juicer sales & repair business

Did we used to see him on late-night informercials?

So I read this on Reddit (sin #1) and I can't find the post (sin #2) PLUS I didn't watch all the camera footage (sin #3) but someone on Reddit posted that Gaby was asking for water and when they asked Brian he said he "doesn't use plastic". All the frau's are now convinced he would do things like ration her water and restrict her diet (well, it wouldn't surprise me). I guarantee if Bryan was/is such a douche, smug asshole about his plastics and being Mr.Environment he WILL get caught eating a big ass burger out of a Hardee's dumpster. It's always the loudest, irrational ones that still tend to do all the stuff they lecture about in private. Yes, plastics are bad and evil but sometimes in an emergency a cop won't have a refreshing metal cup full of virgin springwater available.

He doesn't do plastics yet he drove a gas-guzzling Mustang? Ok...

"So I would say that it's... possible that Brian drove all that way in 36 hours, give or take a few."

Many on Twitter and Reddit are speculating about a second driver, and most of them seem to think sister Cassie is the most likely suspect.

But wouldn't she have to have flown out there and there would be a record?

R144, interesting that it’s registered as a foreign corporation. Is that typical? I mean, they’re not going to Spain to fix juicers.

People saying psycho Brian couldn't have driven 30 hours by himself have obviously (luckily) never had to spend "quality" time with someone who's bipolar 2 or schizophrenic and off their meds. Those nasty fucks can stay up for days, ranting and raving, with the energy of a full blown crackhead. It's absolutely terrifying.

Brian probably just switched off between voices in shifts for the 30 hour drive.

Nobody ever talks about him being in a foreign country. If he is in the US how long does he think he can last without being found and what's the point? Does he feel an extra free days are worth it? I really don't mind the family being harassed. Fuck em. They're creeps and if the neighbors have such a problem with the protesters they can take it out on the charming couple. Like we hate you here move!

Gabby's mother created a Twitter account.

@Nikischmidt927

Her step-mother also created a Twitter account.

@TaraPetito

Wow, it's so cool to see people who aren't raging maniacs after their divorce! I'm glad poor Gabby had at least some healthy love in her short life.

What R151 said.

What's going on with Moab LE and the investigation of the brutal murder of the lesbian couple?

Woody's bar owner speaks out re the last time he saw them alive on Fri and not on Sat as LE claims.

"People saying psycho Brian couldn't have driven 30 hours by himself have obviously (luckily) never had to spend "quality" time with someone who's bipolar 2 or schizophrenic and off their meds. "

Look, when I was college age, there were times when I stayed up all night to write papers or watch movies, and my cooler peers would stay up all night to party or whatever. Even without manic energy, people in their early 20s can stay up and function for 36 hours if they can get enough caffeine. And well, it's not like a man who's just committed a murder is going to be able to sleep anyway.

Moab, Utah population-5,000. My town's population- 50,000. Three young people were brutally murdered there within a couple of weeks. Are residents not worried for their lives? I know in my town, nobody could rest until the killer/s were found.

I checked the timelines again. I wonder if they have and good leads on the Schulte/Turner case. Petito and Laundry were checked by LE on Thurs., 8/12 in Moab, Utah when Petito spent the night in her van and Laundrie got the hotel room. Turner & Schulte were last seen in Moab, Utah in a bar on Fri., 7/13. Somebody knows something. The reward now in the Petito case is up to, what, $20,000! Money talks. These two cases should be solved by now.

R159, The reward for finding Brian is up to $180,000.

There is a reward posted by the younger lesbian's father for finding her killer but I don't know the amount.

I don't like people turning this case into their own personal true crime reality show, like the skank in that video, with flowers and a laundry basket, muttering to herself. Really awful. Fuckin A!

R160, the reward was originally $10,000 but a local business doubled it at the beginning of September.

Kylen’s father has just gone back to Montana after three weeks of sitting at a picnic table in the park every day, hoping that someone would stop by with a tip that would get things moving. The tips he did receive were already known to the police, or at least that’s what they told him.

R162 Sad.

Now she’s at the sister’s house.

R162, Repeating the only tip I've read so far on the internet re the married couple's murders, A man called LE and complained that an "older, creepy" jerk had approached his 9-year-old daughter and asked her several extremely odd & inappropriate questions. He quickly left when he showed up.

Unnerved the father then called LE and was blown off. Still upset he checked the local media and learned about the 2 women complaining about a creepy bald man who matched the same descriptions of the jerk.

Don't know if LE ever contacted any of the 100 guests at the very nearby wedding. Organizers had given full info an all participants & employees yet they were never interviewed re anyone unusual they might have seen.

Wouldn't security cameras have recorded any creeper camping in the area? Were fees charges so park rangers would have had vehicle info? Such was the case of my recent camping trips in AZ and UT.

Pizza & doughnuts were sent today to the front of Brian's sisters home specifically designated for the protesters with the bull horn. Papped by another Twitter poster who's playing amateur reporter with lots of posts.

[quote]Were fees charges so park rangers would have had vehicle info?

They weren’t at a campground, r165. People automatically assumed that it happened at Warner Lake, but their campsite was on the other side of Whispering Oaks Ranch — up La Sal Loop Rd, left on FR4651, and then left onto a dirt trail. There are no gates or entrance fees.

Anyone could have taken a short walk along the creek from Whispering Oaks and not be seen on the road.

[quote]Repeating the only tip I've read so far on the internet re the married couple's murders, A man called LE and complained that an "older, creepy" jerk had approached his 9-year-old daughter and asked her several extremely odd & inappropriate questions. He quickly left when he showed up. Unnerved the father then called LE and was blown off. Still upset he checked the local media and learned about the 2 women complaining about a creepy bald man who matched the same descriptions of the jerk.

What if the married women's killer is a "creepy bald" misogynistic/homophobic LEO? This would explain why local LE isn't too keen to follow up on the case. Letting it hang on Laundrie would also be extremely convenient. Not that Brian should be disregarded as a suspect, but any motive is rather sketchy. Unless this punk really is a serial killer who finally blossomed. Or at least who finally fucked up.

R168, Everything you suggested was discussed all over the internet and especially on certain conspiracy sites immediately after the 2 women were murdered.

Possible time lines were created, detailed maps drawn of the distance between Woody's bar, the 2 places were the women worked, and where their bodies were found.

Important that absolutely none of their coworkers, friends, casual observers mentioned the possibility of an irate customer with a violent steak, a stalker, etc. The women were well liked by all who met them.

There were no conclusions except that it was likely a homophobic act from a stranger.

Could LE want to ignore the case as it's "bad for tourists?" Was it just overshadowed by the other case?

It’s the NY Post so make of it what you will…

[quote]A Florida engineer is adamant he spoke with Brian Laundrie on a deserted road near the Appalachian Trail in North Carolina on Saturday morning.

[…]

[quote]”Dog the Bounty Hunter’s daughter sent me an audio file of Brian’s voice and the voice was the same I heard.”

[quote]A lost and dazed man allegedly waved down Davis on Waterville Road, where the Appalachian Trail runs nearby the border of North Carolina and Tennessee.

[…]

[quote]The man believed to be Laundrie pulled his car up alongside Davis to ask for directions to California using only back roads and refused Davis’ suggestion to take nearby Interstate 40.

[quote]Davis, a father of four currently hiking the Appalachian Trail, said the Laundrie-look-alike acted skittish and rambled about being in a fight with his girlfriend.

[quote]Davis said he believes if the man was Laundrie he was “wigged out” from being on the run and the situation with Petito.

[quote]”He said ‘man, I’m lost.’ I said ‘what are you trying to find?’ and he said ‘me and my girlfriend got in a fight but she called me, told me she loves me, and I have to get to California to see her.’

[quote]”I said ‘well, I-40 is right there and you could take it west to California’ and he said, ‘I’m just going to take this road into California’.

[quote]”He was worried and not making sense.”

[…]

[quote]The man Davis sighted drove a white or light-colored pick up truck resembling a Ford F-150 and wore a dark bandana on his head.

[quote]Davis is frustrated three calls to the FBI and 911 calls in both North Carolina and Tennessee have not been returned by law enforcement.

R170, That story was reported this morning on Twitter by the man's wife. She said she contacted FBI and LE and was disappointed at their response.

Dog's daughter said she would have her father investigate the sighting.

Twitter currently has a description of the pickup truck "Brian" was driving, adding that he was wearing a blue bandanna around his head.

Another poster Tweeted a picture of Brian adding that he doesn't have a gap between his front teeth as is the norm.

Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie Case @RIPGabbyPetito · IMPORTANT: The man Dennis Davis sighted, who’s allegedly #BrianLaundrie, drove a white or light-colored pick up truck resembling a Ford F-150 and wore a dark bandanna on his head.

SHARE THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION #GabbyPetito #justiceforgabby

Does anyone else read this as "The Hunt for Bin Laundrie? Yet another detestable fuck who used family money to engage in murder porn?

Except for the scale at which Bin Laden actually needed to get chubbed and satisfied. Bin Laundrie looks small time by comparison to Bin Laden's need to murder thousands in order to climax.

Why hasn’t Brian Laundrie been charged with a more serious crime?

“I think it’s coming.” – Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aronberg says.

He also explains why the full autopsy report hasn’t been released. (LE officers likely are holding the details of the report closely in order to help them flush out the person or people involved in the homicide.)

And what would it take for Brian’s parents to be charged? (Doing something that clearly breaks the law, like scrubbing the van of evidence. Refusing to speak to LE is not against the law because they have the right to remain silent.)

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Interesting to note how invested and identified with this case people get, like Chris and Shanann Watts and Corrie McKeague, to the point of becoming seriously emotionally affected. The impact of social media and true crime podcasts?

True crime is a long-standing genre in literature and film (in the U.S. at least) The Black Dahlia case is a good example that's spawned decades of fascination and revisiting the case, some good lit (e.g. James Ellroy), and film. The Manson murders is another. Even before that lurid stories sold newspapers at a time when there were many in a single city and newsboys sold them on street corners. Thinking of the Lindbergh kidnapping. Negative information more easily captures people's attention and when it reminds us of mortality and sheer dumb bad luck more so.

The emotional overinvestment to the point of obsession is where it gets weird and it seems new. I can understand family and friends of Gabby's protesting in front of the Laundrie home for a little while, but complete strangers who have disrupted the neighborhood for two weeks now? It's bad enough that they have to deal with media trucks and looky loos, but a hostile group tramping all over their property? I guess it's the hothouse atmosphere of SM...

It’s a an eventuality that a nut with a gun shows up.

Lame that the FBI hasn’t found this loser yet.

R177 yep. It was interesting to see the split in terms of emotional investment on Shanann Watts, about half of Facebook literally deified her, and the other half started off sympathetic but then did a volte-face and completely turned on her. That was one the first of these cases I really very closely followed, heard about it on Datalounge as a matter of fact.

R179, Previously the NY Post stated that there was a sighting of Brian near or in North Carolina. He was driving an off white truck very similar to what his grandfather owns. Grandfather lives in North Carolina.

One would think the FBI would immediately post Wanted posters all over gas stations in the surrounding area after either NY Post reveal.

That the FBI is still focused on the swamp leads one to question if they really want to catch Brian.

[quote]The emotional overinvestment to the point of obsession is where it gets weird and it seems new.

I would lay the performative social-media histrionics at the feet of My Favorite Murder, which was the gateway drug. They're addicted to the attention as well as over-the-top comforting the most distraught of the distraught receive: "Ohhh, Kayleeygh! You're sooooo dedicated to [victim] and I knooooowww she's telling the other angels how proud she is of you!! But PLEASE take care of yourself!! We all love you sooo much and [victim] NEEDS you to stay healthy, girl!!!!"

MFM was the first podcast to really rope in millennial (and younger) women and it also coincided with Michelle McNamara investigation of EAR/ONS. The fact that Michelle McNamara never got anywhere close is completely ignored and now we have an army of Reddit and TikTok superdetectives thinking they're going to solve the next big crime, just like she did.

The guy who finished writing her book, Billy whatever, wrote his own on how to become a "citizen detective" and part of his advice is identifying yourself as a victim advocate if you decide to contact murder victims' families. That's what he does, he said; he doesn't tell them that he's a podcaster or former journalist.

Before, true crime online seems to have been mostly blogs devoted to specific crimes, a bunch of shut-ins on Websleuths, and one annual convention. Since then, true crime has become an identity as well as a cottage industry with Etsy stores selling "Choke Me Like Bundy; Eat Me Like Dahmer" t-shirts and "True Crime and Pumpkin Spice" mugs.

Well we should go back to a time when executions were public.

I think Brian should be guillotined rather than hanged. It would be compellingly macabre to see his shiny bald chuckling head rolling around on the scaffold.

This was weird too = after knowing Laundrie went to Desoto Park with Mommy and Daddy = "Another location, Fort De Soto Campground in Pinellas County, has also become an area of interest, though NO OFFICIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT BODY is INVESTIGATING THE CAMPGROUND" (CNN)----------->WTF? You are not searching one of the last verifiable locations they know Brian was at?.....No wonder they cannot find this clown. He is an IDIOT and so are the searchers...

Forceps baby….

You are very very mean R185. Honest but mean.

Will Brian's lawyer claim Insanity Defense to avoid the Death Penalty?

No, Brian's lawyer will claim that Brian was abused by a tiny little girl, and that the death was sdlf-defense, manslaughter, or justifiable homicide. Or suicide.

When he is caught considering how incompetent everyone is if he is found guilty the judge will just give Brian a sentence of anger management classes.

R189, Hope you're wrong but any guesses of the real reason re why LE & FBI are so incompetent? Do they not want to catch Brian?

Internet rumors claim Mrs Laundrie at one time worked for the DA's Office and may know some secrets. Or that the Laundrie's have MOB connections. Can't always believe what you read, of course.

NY Post Update = Dog is still desperate for attention--video of him wading thru waist high water---who know why?.....The Protesters are now harassing Brians sisters neighbors (video in story)....Dogs Daughter is an attention whore too = "“People are sending financials, vehicle records, addresses, phone numbers,” of the Laundrie Family.......Dog better hope the family gets arrested or Mommy and Daddy might start suing for harassment....

R189 🤣

Is the FBI heading to the swamp again tomorrow? Or are they going to the campground? I assume at this point Brian is in the Maldives.

I wonder what was his explanation to his parents as to why he returned home without her? She lived with them.

I remember Dogs daughter "Baby Lyssa" from the show. I was pretty convinced she had a significant learning disability?

He's probably hooked up with another girl by now. Brian's used to being taken care of by Gabby, Mommy, Daddy, and lard sister. Those voices of his aren't going to be much help out in the real world; if they were he wouldn't have been such a huge waste and mooching off of his 22 year old girlfriend and family. No skills, no useful education, running out of money and no way for Mommy and Daddy and lard sister to get him more because the feds are watching them. He'll have to land another small blonde girl who doesn't know he's a loser and a killer to bankroll him.

If he doesn't then God forbid he might just have to turn himself in or, even worse, GET A FUCKING JOB.

Those protestors are a bunch of kooks.

I hope Dog and whichever of his family members are still speaking to him finds this Laundrie cunt.

He'll get a job alright. In the prison laundrie!

Neighbors do not like the Laundries. This one got a bit creative by blasting a specific song.

Strangers are delivery pizza, doughnuts, and pulled pork sandwiches to the protesters (and to LE.)

[quote]Strangers are delivery pizza, doughnuts, and pulled pork sandwiches to the protesters (and to LE.)

Make them fat so they don't have the energy to protest.

This is the Court of Public Opinion in open action, holding an open campaign of harassment against people who haven't been charged with any crimes.

That said, they sure look like fair targets.

The Court of Public Opinion doesn't need any stinkin' charges!

Someone flew a drone over the Laundrie house yesterday & caused the Laundries to flee from their garden beds.

Brian’s Google reviews

[quote] Here is the full 911 call from Appalachian Trail hiker Dennis Davis. He says he saw Brian Laundrie in a pickup truck along the trail in North Carolina.

Update on Brian sightings.

This guy keeps getting mistaken for Brian Laundrie

So Sister Lanudrie is being harassed too, is she?

Does that mean that even though the parents are supposedly acting from a "SAVE MY CHILD" parental instinct, they're expecting the sister to endure harassment to protect the brother? Even though the sister seems to be the successful sibling, the one who wasn't living with her parents and hasn't killed anyone?

So the guy at R208 is a actually Brian.

This case is so fucking boring.

It's probably always been like that for Lard Sister, R209. Mommy and Daddy Laundrie putting baby Brian first. Making excuse after excuse why Brian was a loser, never had a real job, why Lard Sister and Gabby should go easy on him, etc.

"Brian tries so hard! He has such a bright future, he just needs our help! Go easy on him, he's your brother! He may not have a job or a bright future like other young men your age, Gabby, but no one will love you more violently if you try to leave him than our baby boy!"

[quote]This case is so fucking boring.

And yet here you are, R211.

Anybody heard anything today ???

r1 is truly crazy. Like you have any fucking idea what their lives were like, cunt-frau.

His google reviews (I skimmed)... so lame the humour tries. Also mentions the gf a few times. Chilling in retrospect. Oh..and one abt growing up in Mexico. Surely he is down there by now.

r212!

My morning jizz shoots over to the 2 on my laptop. Sticky.

Twitter updates, summary.

interested in photos of the "Dirty Laundry Basket" left on Brian's parents doorstep?

TMZ claims Brian bought a canoe which is why Dog's searching So FL islands.

Banner flown over Laundrie house says Tik Tok . . . Vid on Twitter.

Drone caught the Laundrie's watering their plants. Vid on Twitter.

Costco was the food delivered today to the protesters, pictures on Twitter.

Lots of people hoping to get the $180,000 reward money so are searching the Appalachian Trails. Unfortunately native of No Carolina says a LOT of young nmen in that part of the state look very similar to Brian.

Distinctive physical characteristics of Brian described with pics.

Sister of the man who did Brian's and Gabby's matching hand tattoos says their permanent and not henna.

Back on Dr Phil for an update on where Brian might be hiding.

Gabby's father, stepfather, mother, stepmother, and grandmother all invite you to "Like" their Social Media specifically Twitter accounts.

Brian Entin @BrianEntin · Latest from the Laundrie house for @NewsNationNow . Banner plane circled for about an hour -- with a message for the Laundrie family. It was paid for by a group of TikTok users. Message voted on by Tik Tok users said, "Justice 4 Gabby Tik Tok Times Up."

Also -- Dennis the hiker tells me the FBI is investigating and he plans to meet with them tomorrow.

He actually can be found hiking in the Urals.

Circus continues, Protester finally got a video interview with Brian's sister and her husband. Now he's trying to sell it.

Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie Case @RIPGabbyPetito Clout chasing idiots as well as money whores. They want to sell the interview with #cassielaundrie for money. You must know that in America, it’s money first followed by justice second. It’s just our sad reality. Our society is money driven.

Tyler 🕸 @Tyler199x Ofcourse the only 2 people that got footage of Cassie talking are 2 clout chasing idiots that have no compassion #BrianLaundrie

Read a news blurb on my Google feed today, where a "protester" was briefly interviewed. He admitted he didn't know Petite or Laundrie, but said "We all miss Gabby".

Whut? He didnt and doesn't know anyone involved in this mess. How in the fuck, could he claim to "miss her", and include other people he doesn't even know in his little statement?

I can understand being sympathetic, or bummed out, but this whole websleuth/Reddit phenom has gone way too far. Don't these people have jobs, lives, or responsibilities, beyond going over the edge over a person they never even met, or heard of a month ago? It's all pretty disturbing to me.

R223, Gabby has been labeled "Americas's daughter."

Meanwhile Brian's sister has been accusing her parents' lawyer, and therefore her parents, of throwing her and her husband (and their grandson) "under the bus." Exactly what was her involvement in trying to help her brother?

I love you guys for, “Lard Sister”.

People being fascinated with true crime stories isn’t a new thing… there was Jack the Ripper.

[quote]Gabby has been labeled "Americas's daughter."

I think one person said this during a candle light vigil, upon seeing this on the news some people repeated it and others said wtf?

[quote]Dozens of people showed up to North Port City Hall with candles in hand and prayers in their hearts. The light from the candles represents hope. Lisa Correll is the organizer of Saturday’s vigil. “Tonight, we are going to be honoring Gabby,” Correll said. She believes we need to keep hope alive.

[quote]Petito still isn’t home to those who love her and those who miss her. “She’s America’s daughter. She is everybody’s daughter and I have daughters myself and I just couldn’t imagine the grief that the family is going through and not knowing where she is and not having an answer, so it’s very poison. I can’t imagine what they’re going through,” said Correll.

Bernie Sanders chimes in.

How can you not watch such an entertaining show? Do you think Lifetime could create such a soap opera?

R225 - Jack The Ripper was almost a hundred and forty years ago. Not simpatico, in the least. Plus, there's a huge difference between "fascinated" and "completely obsessed to an unhealthy degree". These people, gathered on the Laundries front lawn, have no real stake in this tragedy, bit they certainly act like it, for their own, unknown selfish reasons. Period.

These Protesters remind me of the Self Proclaimed "Video Vigilante" in Oklahoma. He would go to neighbors houses (with the local news) to knock on the doors of people who got arrested and he would hand out fliers "warning" the neighbors. He went to a gay park (Trosper Park) to film gay sinners--then post the video online. He had all kinds of antics going. But you know what they had in common? He was asking for donations (this was before gofundme). He wanted to "clean up" the gay park so a Donation Website was created. He didn't like the District Attorney, so he created a Donation Website. He wanted to "clean up his neighborhood so his kids could live in a safe place'---->>it turns out he DID NOT even live in the neighborhood and has NO kids..Etc Etc..He called himself a Commercial Activist...Finally HE got arrested. Mugshot on Smoking Gun...He used to Brag online how much the Maury Show would pay him for going on his show..

Is Westboro Baptist still around? Gabrielle Petito's memorial service, seems like a prime op for these subhuman fucks.

This is what happens when MAGA rallies are few and far between. You can be sure that if someone tweeted a Roger Stone sighting at a Starbucks across town, the street would clear out in twenty seconds.

[quote]Is Westboro Baptist still around?

Probably just as a post office box. We don't seem to hear anything about it since the death of its hateful founder.

R232 = Westboro used to protest a lot. This was before social media and cell phone cameras. We used to see them all the time in Oklahoma City at major intersections. They would show up to Pride Festivals creating hell. What you might not know is the Police would be at their protests protecting THEM. Westboros would be calling people Queers Fagz etc and trying to provoke people because they knew the cops were right there to keep them from getting an ass whipping. I was there when Barney Frank was at a Tulsa Pride Parade and went over to talk to them and all they did was scream non stop---dialogue wasn't really their thing...The last Westboro Protest I saw was 4 people at the corner of Western and Wiltshire screaming their heads off. It was really pathetic at that point. They lost their momentum for sure and Social Media replaced them as the "go to" place for spreading hate.

I can’t believe they talked for eighteen minutes.

[quote]Brian Laundrie’s sister, Cassie Laundrie, took questions from a small group of protestors outside her home Monday

"We all feel very sorry for you, Cassie."

"It's Carrie!"

Protesters agreed to leave Brian's sister alone after the interview. After all she has a small child (children.)

Also she claims no to know anything at all.

R236 = Cassie LIED in her interview on Sept 17 ...She claimed she hadn't seen her brother since he returned but that was a lie....LINK...Fat Sis better get ready for HER trial next...The whole damn family is in a lot of trouble.

bunch of fucking liars, the lot

Look at these two fat slobs (Cassie and Pedro). I always find it astounding that people who look like this can get laid.

She reminds me of the Pale Lady from Scary Stories To Tell in the Dark

Fuck of fatty Cassie. Is her short skirt to show us how sexy liars can be? Her husband! Jesus! And she demands to be left alone! Fuck you, lying heap of shit!

Is that tub of guts pictured beside lard sister her husband? They both look 45 months pregnant with triplets.

If they're truly expecting they should be left alone, though. The baby is already at higher risk because of the mother's obesity and it's uncle being a psychoic, mooching murderer. If anything, there should be a letter campaign trying to convince her to give the baby up for adoption so it might have a chance of not ending up being a crazy shithead.

Liars , the whole family.

I, too, love the term lard sister. So datalounge…

Timeline details from Cassie's video + info about a round-trip flight that Brian took from Salt Lake City to Florida (at least partly paid by Gabby) in the days before Gabby's murder

LOL @ "Brian paid". That mooch paid for jack shit.

"Cassie LIED in her interview on Sept 17 "

Lying in interviews isn't a crime, R237. If it was, every actor and politician in the world would be in jail.

Lying to law enforcement IS a crime, but we don't know that she's done that, or done it to a degree worthy of prosecution. She says she's now "cooperating with law enforcement", which is more than the parents have done, although she may not know anything worth telling. If she does, well, she's the family member most likely to crack under pressure, because what are the odds that spoiled, entitled Brian treated a fat sister with kindness and respect?

Fat Cassie will turn on the family and make $$$$$$ from this situation. Interviews, book, movie. $$$$$$$&&&&&&&&

*no &&&

Gabby stayed in a hotel while Brian was back in Florida. It has always been known that he made that trip back home. Gabby had spoken about it to friends and family. From what she had told them, the understanding was that the Laundrie family was emptying out storage units that they had rented during a previous move and that Gabby and Brian had belongings in the units and so Brian went home to sort through the storage units.

Brian flew back to Florida from his road trip of terror to clean out storage units and the then flew back to Utah again? Then he killed Gabby after killing the lesbian couple and that 40 something year old man who left his daughters to go on a hike?

This story keeps getting more convoluted and nonsensical as more information drips out. Instead of trying to make sense of any of it just exterminate the entire Laundrie family and make the world a better less confusing place.

Lots of people get laid. You can be fat, dumb, ugly and poor and still have sex. It is amazing.

Were the lesbians murdered before or after the "trip to clean out the storage unit"? Because if after...

New Nickname = Fat Assy Cassie!!!

Boring case.

Here's a video of FL engineer Dennis Davis talking about his run-in with BL.

In addition to what appears to be a legitimate testimony, and Cassie Laundrie now coming clean (especially in the manner that she did), it wouldn't surprise me if BL was located within the next week or two.

I wonder if the authorities have some kind of obstruction charge they can lay on BL's parents. Seems like that could be a tactic to draw him out.

[quote]Boring case.

And yet here you are, R256.

[quote]Were the lesbians murdered before or after the "trip to clean out the storage unit"?

They were last seen on the 13th and their bodies were found on the 18th. His flight was on the 17th.

Thanks for the post [r257]

R257 = At this point I think the cops are waiting to catch Brian then link the parents to helping him. The cops won't even upgrade Brians charges to murder which makes me wonder what evidence (or lack of) they came up with in the Gabby autopsy. People linking the Lesbian Case to Brian are stupid. No evidence Brian ever had a gun and if he was running around with one the Cops would have warned the public by now.

how dumb are people? I saw Laundrie but didn't call the authorities who I knew were looking for him but I did call Dog The Bounty Hunter because that is who you call when you have really important info. *eye roll*

How dumb are people? They elected the grifting conman Trump from the Apprentice to be POTUS and still follow him to this day. Of course people call Dog, not the FBI.

Checked out the Gabby Petito Reddit sub, and there's a thread where people are listening to police scanners in and around Tampa, and roleplaying like they're working in an office (I left sum donuts n' hot coffee in the break room for ya'll!) Disgusting. Also, the people (YouTube wannabe journalists) are openly harassing his sister, who isn't guilty of anything. It's so fucking ugly.

DOG is working for FOX NEWS. He is on there non stop giving out his worthless dribble of no results.....So we definitely do not want DOG and his daughter Muttsy to find Brian...

This has certainly resurrected Dogs flagging career, so that sunburnt piece of white-trash, island piece-of-shit wins, either way. Not to mention his obvious, mildly-retarded daughter, "Baby Lyssa"

Five sightings place BL near the NC/Tennessee border-area on 28 September. Several sightings link him to a Hyundai Sonata registered to BL's uncle (already mentioned in this thread), as well as young woman (Jennifer Laundrie).

BL's uncle has a home in New Bern, NC (not too far from the East Coast; about 480 miles due east of NC/Tennessee border sightings). A contact of Skyline news says he saw BL "in the bushes" near the uncle's home on 29 September (though, the account does sound sketchy). The police investigated and discounted this, which Skyline still disputes based on the activity occurring in that area. I'm not sure how much this makes sense if the Florida engineer's sighting was on 2 October, as it creates an odd back and fourth. If the engineer sighting was 25 September, then it make a trip to New Bern more linear.

The Florida engineer also reports that BL was driving a pickup truck.

The automobile sighting makes sense. This kid is not an Eric Rudolph type survivalist, he was a kid who liked to "hike", and smoke weed, no real skills. if he is still alive, people are helping him hide. No way he's out in woods, huffing it. He couldn't handle it, period.

oh my god (r64) it's even worse than you describe...I'm cringing through the screen just thinking about these people.

SlammedAway· 10 minutes ago Ahhhh…. Toucan Slam checking into my happy place with my Froot Lööps (just in case there aren’t any real ones tonight).

mysterypeeps 13m I lost a dear friend unexpectedly while texting her last night, so no loops for me today. Keep it locked down night crew 😘 leaving a plethora of frybread in the break room in her honor.

Arperiod_Io Rad Io clocking in. Are we patrolling Florida or the southern AT tonight, crew? (I'll be watching W North Carolina, E Tennesse and N Georgia.)Vote

angel_kink ·18m I’m watching Florida because the AT is boring to me. But it’s good to have eyes in multiple places.

Creeperdoodle ·21m Mountain bandit clocking in. Anything going on this evening? Over.

Reddit is fool of losers. So is the DL.

^full.

"I have to leave work early, 2nite guys! I'm thinkin' bout Gabbie, n how bad we miss her rite now. I'm ok 2nite, but even the slytist bit of bad news, cud trigger me. Thoughts n prAers!!! ( I left sum coconut h20 in da fridge 4 my peeps!)

Those sound less like protestors and more like vigilantes.

The point where the guy filming said he didn't want anything bad to happen to her parents, like storming their house for example, was genuinely a bit creepy. Reminds me of the 'Dark Justice' anti-paedophile vigilantes that are all over Facebook the last couple of years.

Everything is going better than my wildest dreams.

R273 = Exactly. These Vigilantes are showing their crazy all over social media...

"my mom is in a bad mood tonight, so I KNO whut Gabby went thru. Pray 4 me team!"

Engineer stated he called FBI/LE immediately and was disappointed in their lack of response.

On his behalf his wife posted details of his encounter on social media threads re Gabby and especially on Twitter.

Dog's daughter quickly contacted engineer's wife with a recording of Brian's voice. Engineer confirmed it was the seemingly disoriented man he encountered who wanted to know the way to California. There's a California in the Appalachian Trails area. Not confirmed if that was the locale of which Brian was speaking.

Eventually NY Post picked up the story of the engineer's encounter.

R257 Thanks for posting that first-hand account. Boy listening to him tell what happened made the hairs on my neck stand up. Just in time for Halloween.

I hope we get more first-hand accounts like this. It sounds like Brian has an enabler or two as he mosies on out to California.

Brians lawyer is an idiot. If Brian was smart he would come out of hiding for 15 minutes to announce he fired his lawyer. Then go back on the run....LoL....Is Law Enforcement still running around the swamps? At this point even the Crocs are probably laughing.

R261 Brian is thought to have a license for Concealed Carry, so he most likely has a gun with him.

R280 = I do not believe Brian is running around with a gun and the cops haven't warned the public. I just find that too much of a stretch. Can you imagine the police NOT warning people and he goes on a rampage? They already put up with being accused of letting Brian get away. They haven't even warned the public to not approach Brian if they see him. I really think there might be problems with the Gabby Autopsy. There has to be some reason they haven;t filed murder charges yet.

[quote]"Cassie LIED in her interview on Sept 17 "

R237: She claims she didn't lie to ABC on Sept 17th -- the way they edited the interview for broadcast was misleading. Having re-watched it, and having read the full transcript....I'm inclined to agree with/believe her. It was misleading.

She never said that she hadn't spoken to Brian since his *return* to Florida. It was the ABC reporter who stated "since his return" on the broadcast voice-over -- and then it immediately cut to a snippet of Cassie saying: "I haven't been able to talk to him. I wish I could talk to him."

She was referencing that she hadn't spoken to him since Gabby was reported missing (Sept 11th) & it became a big story. The question she was asked, which viewers didn't hear: "As his sister, what is the oddest thing about all of this?" (referring to the whole situation with her parents' behavior & Brian's subsequent disappearance, etc).

To which she replied: "That I haven't been able to talk to him. I wish I could talk to him." (ABC edited "That" out in the snippet they used)

Not sure if the ABC producers were trying to "juice" the story by making it appear that Cassie lied....or they were just truly incompetent/got it wrong. It could go either way.

"I wonder if the authorities have some kind of obstruction charge they can lay on BL's parents. Seems like that could be a tactic to draw him out."

IMHO Brian won't lift a finger to save his parents. He's spoiled, entitled, immature, and utterly selfish, and the events of the last few weeks will only have reinforced his belief that his parents only exist to support him. If they're arrested and sent to jail for protecting him, and he remains free, he will be very angry at them for getting into a situation where they can't send him money.

COMPLETELY agree with everything r283 said.

[quote]If they're arrested and sent to jail for protecting him, and he remains free, he will be very angry at them for getting into a situation where they can't send him money.

R283, yet, without money, his options would dry up and rob the little hope he would have surviving on his own.

[quote]I really think there might be problems with the Gabby Autopsy. There has to be some reason they haven;t filed murder charges yet.

For a coroner to conclude that Gabby was murdered and for investigators to decide they have sufficient evidence to bring murder charges against Laundrie are different things entirely.

You need a gun if you're living in the swamp (or wilderness). Snakes, crocs, how do you eat when you run out of food? It would be very easy for him to get guns from that uncle, if not from ma and pa kettle in FL.

As far as LE not warning the public - what do you expect? They look so incompetent, spending millions on that nearby swamp, walking around in waist high water, ignoring the eye witness hundreds of miles to the north (apparently)... Did Trump gut the FBI like he did the post office? He moved us quite a way toward "third world" status. And I guess, considering our moronic population taken as a whole, we deserve it.

At this point, I don't believe Cassie's insistence that she doesn't know anything about Brian's whereabouts or his involvement in Gabby's murder. She says that the last time she saw Brian was on September 6, just 5 days before Gabby was reported missing. She also says she didn't suspect anything unusual. Then how does she explain Brian showing up back in Florida in Gabby's van? Without Gabby?!

She says that her parents should "come clean" if they know anything about Brian's current location and that she would turn in Brian if she knew where he is. But I don't believe for a second her acting as if she'd easily sell Brian down the river, as if he's a mere brother from another udder. She and her parents may truthfully not know exactly where he is right now, but they definitely helped him escape. Anything she says right now is out of sheer self-preservation because she knows she's looking at serious jail time if/when Brian is caught.

R288, we're kind of passed that. Read R282. More reading, less typing opinions.

The sister doesn't know anything. She's insignificant to the case at this point. What you think about her is irrelevant.

R288 I find her teeny, tiny mouth and the tight-lipped way that she speaks incredibly distracting.

R289, what you think is irrelevant, Cinecunt.

She sure didn't seem to give a shit that Gabby had been murdered - strangled!

Wasn't Gabby living with the parents for a year or so? And the sister has like no fucks to give? The single most important thing about this case is that she was murdered - probably by your evil brother, bitch -- not that poor widdle you couldn't talk to your bubba. Like who cares? and who believes it's even true? She could talk to him plenty on that camping trip, with him smiling with the young cousin or whatever - and Gabby's where? -- oh you didn't care, did you?

Exactly. She's obviously trying to cover her own ass now after she already helped aid and abet her homicidal brother. She's lucky if she doesn't get shanked in federal prison for helping cover up the murder of America's daughter.

[quote]She also says she didn't suspect anything unusual. Then how does she explain Brian showing up back in Florida in Gabby's van? Without Gabby?!

She didn't go to the house, she just met them at the campground, and may not have known he brought the van back. She said she'd seen them fighting so maybe when she was told they'd broken up, it wasn't a huge surprise to her.

If Brian was sticking with some story like they broke up, Gabby had been hitting him ("even the police officers noticed it"), she'd left on her own and would come back for the van at a later date, he could have easily asked his family to not respond to Gabby and her parents or talk about it because he was really upset.

The mom and dad would have realized it was a tall tale at some point because Gabby's parents were texting and asking for information, but the sister was out of the loop. For all we know she had no idea any of this was going on until Brian went on the lam, and then she put two and two together and is now both mad and terrified at the position she's been put in.

Why can't some DLers think more critically like R282 and R294?

Why do they have to be morons like some of the others?

We had people making fun of Redditors earlier. As if there is room to judge ...

It's quite possible that she has zero interest in her brother's life and no curiosity about his relationship with his girlfriend. She can't very easily admit "I paid no attention to what was going on with him because I don't particularly like him or his girlfriend".

Why indeed, Cinetwat ("Cinecunt" is much too pedestrian? Siding with a murderer's fat sow of a sister is the most cosmopolitan thing a dedicated DL troll and his socks could do. Nancy Drew has got nothing on you, dear. Brava!

R297 just schooled us in the art of trolling by posting a perfect example of trolling.

Just because someone has proximity to something, doesn’t make them guilty. And you’re trolling if you think that isn’t logical and what your opinion is is truth.

^ btw, r297, you cited r295 when that post itself was a troll post.

No, R299, R295 was not a "troll" post.

R295 was an "I'm fucking annoying with the morons here and I've been spending too much time on the DL" post.

Good night.

^annoyed

But, yes, I can be annoying, I'm fully aware.

Didn't she say at some point she loved Gabby? So Brian and the parents simply told her they broke up? They why didn't she make that clear? That she had never been to the parent's house and seen the van? If that's her story she sure hasn't made that clear. Now she's throwing everyone under the bus because the lawyer told her not to talk and because of that she's being harassed so she's talking.

R301, I assumed the post was not written by you because of the signature. Therefore, troll post.

When they catch moocher Brian he's going to tell on Mommy, Daddy and Lard Sister. He and all of his voices. He didn't take responsibility for what he did to Gabby and is happy to let his fam deal with harassment and scrutiny and, when when the time comes, will blame them for the p.o.s. he's become, too. If he doesn't accidentally die doing something stupid before those morons swimming through the swamp find him, he'll take his entire family down with him.

Cassie like Tucker Carlson looks like she has a head taken from Easter Island.

According to the eye witness in Appalachia's account, Brian is now living in fantasy land whee he still has a girlfriend. It's all so pathetic. The family should have made sure he killed himself OR turned him in. Don't let loose a deluded insane murderous person like Brian. It's even mean to Brian. There's always the possibility if he is criminally insane he could get medicated in the psychiatric prison. This might help the victims parents make sense of the act, too. A certifiably insane person.

Dog the Bounty Hunter and all of the Reddit losers are easy to make fun of, but to be honest they are doing more than law enforcement at this point, and seem to have found and processed much more information as to his whereabouts.

R306, Van dwellers and campers who encountered a hitchhiking Brian at the end of August all said he talked about his GF as if they were still a happy couple. Then he acted nervous and even paranoid at the suggestion to meet her. In some cases he jumped out of their vehicle.

Clearly the boy's not dealing with reality.

Also didn't Cassie begin to crack because of the nutty protesters in front of her house? Everything is getting scary for her and she's got to save her own skin. This is not a bad thing.

"According to the eye witness in Appalachia's account, Brian is now living in fantasy land where he still has a girlfriend."

Well, that's certainly what he *wants* us to think.

R309, It has been implied that Cassie agreed to answer a few questions to the one protester, so he'd get off her lawn. She seems to have been worried about Brian's young nephew who was upset by the ruckus outside.

Whether or not she was also paid for her brief interview is unknown. Obviously Cassie was trying to claim innocence or at least non-involvement. She doesn't seem very bright.

Okay, Datalounge Detective Agency... What do you see?

R312… hah a plant? Really, no idea.

A cellphone wedged in the dirt?

Carrie?

It looks like some critter like a snake or a mole came out of the area between the dirt and the board/border.

A baby Audrey II plant?

Underground bunkers exist in FL but not in the part where the Laundries live.

Had trouble posting that same Tik Tok video so thanks for doing it. Think it's imagination gone wild.

Sister Laundrie probably doesn't know anything worth telling. She didn't live with her parents, she seems to only have seen Brian for a few hours after his return, and it's unlikely that she shares the parental believe that Brian must be protected at all costs.

Sibling relationships aren't all loving and protective. Sometimes they're best friends, sometimes there's deadly rivalry, sometimes they treat each other like shit, sometimes there's enough favoritism that they come to hate each other, etc. So my out-of-my-ass wild guess is that it's the last. Betcha Brian has always been the Golden Child, the one who's assumed to have a brilliant future and who gets endless family support in spite of his uselessness and fuckups. If I'm right, there's good odds that Sister Laundrie has hated him for years and the only thing that kept her from trying to throw him under the bus straight off was that her parents would never forgive her.

Yep, r319. They say sibling rivalry really has nothing at all to do with the siblings' relationship to each other, and everything to do with the siblings' relationship with the parent(s).

Didn't papa Laundrie say to Gabby - "now we'll get some good looks in the family!"

Something like that - can't remember where I heard that but it really stuck in my mind, knowing he had a sister who had at least one kid. Then after I saw her, it made sense. But woah it's cruel to say it.

I have no idea what communication was like between Brian and his parents but he goes home from the 17th to the 23rd of August for storage unit clean out. Maybe he tells them about all the fighting and how this isn't a happy trip and he doesn't know if they should be together. Maybe parents see how bad his mental health is (it has been said he was hearing voices and had other mood issues happening) and tell him to come home. That he should break up with Gabby or at least come back to Florida. He flies back on the 23rd to Utah and meets up with Gabby again. I wonder if he talked to her about breaking up / leaving / ending the road trip and they got into a big fight and he killed her. This guy doesn't seem like a mastermind criminal. He sounds like someone with poor anger control who slightly out of touch with reality and in a high conflict relationship who loses it or overreacts or defends himself too violently. My guess is he is probably dead. I don't think he planned this and so the shock of realizing you killed your girlfriend then driving back to Florida with no sleep - acting like all is well and being in denial and then having that crash down and knowing you are about to go to jail for life along with being mentally ill was probably too much stress and guilt and embarrassment and he offed himself.

I think Brian is too selfish, spoiled, immature, and douchey to kill himself this early in the game. IMHO if he ever kills himself, it'll be after he's run through all the money and help the family is willing to give him, and he's left with nothing but his own ability to survive in the wilderness or work for a living.

Is it Gabby's journal that documents her abuse by Brian that his mom is burying in the planter box?

Do girls raised in the social media age still write in paper diaries?

I live in NC, went to ASU. If he was legit trying to hide, the NC/Tenn portion of the Appalachian Trail, would be the very last place he would run to. It's loaded with folks, especially this time of year.

There's more a Wikipedia entry about this case.. It's a good summary for anyone interested.

Apparently, Dog the Bounty Hunter's team has relayed that the man Dennis Davis saw on the Appalachian Trail in TN/NC was not BL (at 12:30).

As it stands, GP's mother reported her missing 11 September. The latest from the BL parents is that they last saw him 13 September. By then, the case had exploded. It sounds like the BL parents weren't prepared for how big this was going to get. They certainly have managed a "calm" front and protected themselves with a lawyer, even freezing out the daughter.

Perhaps BL is still in Florida. If he is, he succumbed to the elements and is probably dead floating somewhere in the Carlton Reserve, where the Mustang was found. Him being in the De Soto Park makes no sense, as it's a small area and essentially a dead-end.

I’m getting the feeling the FBI doesn’t give a shit.

r329 maybe FBI is working on tying this to other crimes/murders of lesbian couple, more? Let Dog’s activities take public attention for more time?

What if in light of racial bias criticism, they’re intentionally keeping low public profile, or they’ve backed off of case?

Why did Gabby's family wait so long to report her missing? They didn't know Brian had returned with her van and they weren't hounding the Laundrie family? Gabby is missing and Cassie takes not one but two vacations? Disneyworld and that De Soto camping trip. Did she and her family get on Ride of the Resistance?

I find Fat Assy Cassies face interesting....Its like a face smashed into a giant blubber cake....

His parents would have believed whatever story Brian gave them. He could have said she took off with another guy, met up with friend to continue experience, he was tired of van life and missed home/them. She was using drugs and he didn’t agree...whatever would bring sympathy and paint him in victim or flattering life.

^^^^light

R325 Yes, girls and women still write in paper journals. Victims of domestic violence are encouraged to keep a hidden diary of all instances of abuse to use in case you need a restraining order or the abuser goes to trial.

When LE said that they found something of interest in the van, I thought it could be that they found a hidden diary or Gabby's iWatch that might have recorded her vital signs or GPS tracking.

Brian had her passwords and pins for her bank account and debit card. It's likely he knew the passwords to her laptop and phone.

As discussed earlier in Part 1, Gabby's mother sensed immediately something was wrong as she kept in constant contact with her daughter.

Unfortunately LE has a waiting period for investigating missing adults.

Frustrated Gabyy's stepfather confronted the Laundrie's and was told by LE to back off.

R336 Another problem was that Utah LE wouldn't let Gabby's mom declare her missing because Gabby was not a resident of Utah. Other states have the same law. Gabby's family is trying the change those laws.

There is no proof Brian killed Gabby. People need to stop jumping to conclusions without any facts.

R338 You idiot!

r337, wouldn't it be Wyoming LE? I thought Gabby had made contact with her family, including at least once via FaceTime, from the area near the Tetons (where she went missing & was murdered).

I'm not sure when the FaceTime was and where she was at, but we know GP was in Wyoming on 27 August at the Merry Piglet restaurant in Jackson at about 1:30 PM (? I forget the exact time).

The Bethune family video puts the van at Spread Creek Dispersed Camping Area in Wyoming by 6 - 6:30 PM 27 Aug, 28 or so miles from the restaurant (her body was found nearby in a creek bed).

The "Stan" text from her mobile went out to GP's mother (which she believes wasn't from her) on 27 Aug (according to GP's mother). Not sure when the time was.

Now that Cassie's beginning to crack the the Laundrie parents say they want to help law enforcement. Everybody's shitting a brick and it's probably due to harassment rather than the brain dead police force and FBI.

So, the Mustang apparently was not in Carlton Reserve, but parked several miles east in Myakkahatchee Environmental Park.

They have also found remnants of a recent campfire in Carlton Reserve.

Carlton Reserve has been closed since 21 September until further notice.

Why are the FBI/LE convinced Brian's not near the Appalachian Trail or off the coast of FL where Dog found DNA proof?

Still don't understand the focus on the swamp?

What DNA proof was that?

There is a video of this knowledgable cattle rancher who knows the area in the link below. It's 5 minutes. He basically says that if BL was in the Carlton Reserve, there is no way he is still alive. Look for buzzards circling his corpse--that is, if he died on dry land (which there isn't much of).

But, I dunno, R344. Do you have a link to the DNA proof Dog found near the FL portion of the AT? All I could find is that Dog found DNA in De Soto Park he sent to the FBI (and we know BL was in De Soto Park from 6 - 8 Aug, so I'm not sure why it's significant).

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The LE focus seems to have been on the swamp from the beginning with little diversion to elsewhere, which leads me to think that they don't think he's alive and hasn't been for some time. I don't think he ever left the swamp, either. He's most likely compost by now, thanks to the non-discriminating diet of alligators.

The supposed sightings on or near the AT were all bunk anyways, which is what I thought from the beginning. There's no way that BL would've allowed himself to be so recklessly visible, considering that he obviously realized that he had become headline news overnight. Plus, someone like him doesn't seem to have half the brain or the extreme savvy required to elude such a massive search effort, not to mention the army of web sleuths and amateur detectives who think they're hot on his trail.

R340 and R341

Gabby's last FaceTime call with her mom was on Aug 24th when Gabby was in Salt Lake City.

"Schmidt said she last spoke to Petito when she received a FaceTime call from her on August 24 as she and Laundrie departed Salt Lake City. Prior to her disappearance, Petito would FaceTime with her mother about three times a week while on the trip, Schmidt told CBS New York."

Gabby's mom believed that the "Stan" text was not sent by Gabby.

Gabby's mother did not know about the Jackson Hole restaurant , Merry Piglet, fight until after she filed a Missing Person's Report in NY for Gabby

eta:

Whether it was Utah or Wyoming , the point is that laws need to changed . Someone should be able to file a Missing Person's Report at the location you've gone missing, regardless of where you legally reside.

Does anyone have links stating that the engineer who talked to "Brian" at the Appalachian Trail turned out to be a conversation with just another slim, bald, bearded man? The incident got a lot of pap attention but limited response from the FBI.

Also thought the vehicle "Brian" was driving was verified to be his uncle's who lives in No Carolina.

Notice Dog's been silent this week. His daughter just claims he's searching thru tips and leads.

Part of me can't help but feel a little sorry for Brian and all he must be going through.

How can you feel sorry for a psychopath who causes so much misery for so many, thinks it's a joke and has no conscience?

He could be on a beach in Mexico laughing at Gabby's family and the FBI dragging a vast swamp.

Brian’s father has arrived at the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park adjacent to the Carlton jr. reserve and taken into brush with police

r252, I bet you also thought Ma and Pa Goy were "good people."

* sorry r352

Now that Mr Laundrie has finished his gardening he has time to look for his son.

Why so much focus on an abandoned campsite? Countless outdoor survivalists must hang out in the swamp. Everything the Laundrie's have told LE appear to have been lies.

Sounds like Lard Sister and Daddy Laundrie are done enabling murdering, moocher Brian. Oh well, he's still got his Mommy! That Gabby was never good enough for her sweet baby anyway!

R358 The reservation has been closed to the public since mid-September. There shouldn't be anyone but LE there.

On another note, I don't understand why everyone thinks the FBI is so inept because they've decided to contain their search efforts to the swamp. These people are not stupid by any definition, and they must have no evidence of any real substance that BL is anywhere else. Dead or alive.

From Brian Entin: "Chris was asked to point out any favorite trails or spots that Brian may have used in the preserve."

I'm surprised Pops Laundrie is out there at all but I wonder if he's been, shall we say, compelled?

R360, IF the FBI catches Brian or proof of his remains it will improve my opinion re their competence.

R361, at this point the FBI probably just wants to separate the Laundrie parents with any excuse. Get one engaging and talking without the other one around.

Why would the FBI be bringing in Brian's father to help their search at this stage in the hunt? I'm sure they don't expect him to wade through the swamps. My guess is they found something and need Dad to identify it. Camping equipment? Clothing? A body?

[quote]Part of me can't help but feel a little sorry for Brian and all he must be going through.

What the hell is wrong with you?

He likes bald murderous narcissists.

Chris Laundrie has returned home.

Brian Entin's conversation with former FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer:

[quote]I believe the FBI has found something at the reserve, something that may or may not be significant but something that can’t be transported. Possibly a camping site and they want his father to come look and perhaps how the fire pit looks or the setup of the camp to see if it something that he recognized or is familiar with Brian Laundrie possibly sets up a camp

[quote][italic]Is this unusual for them to be doing this? With you know, with his Dad?[/italic]

[quote]Under the circumstances of this case where you have an attorney representing him meaning the Laundrie parents from the beginning and Brian Laundrie from the beginning it is unusual because this request had to be made thru the attorneys and now is putting the FBI in closer contact with the father so it is a bit unusual but I guarantee they have questions for him regarding what they have found that they believe he can answer.

[quote][italic]Do you think there’s any chance that they’re using this moment to get closer to the Dad? [/italic]

[quote]I don’t think that was a ploy pre-se but that can end up being what happens they have not talked to him because he has retained, we have very strict rules on that and we do not break the rule when somebody has asked for an attorney. However, just that familiarity of working together, sometimes relationships can form and it can open doors

[quote][italic]Yesterday you saw there was a lot of action in the reserve, what did you make of what you saw?[/italic]

[quote]Most FBI agents do not drive SUVs, the agents that do drive SUVs are in specialty areas like Evidence Recovery Team, what we call an ERT, SWAT members because they have a lot of gear to carry, so it could be because of the terrain out there that they need all terrain four wheel drive larger vehicles that they have that out there but it is also indicative of an ERT team which would make a lot of sense that they found something specific to comb over.

Timeline:

[quote]Brian Laundrie flew cross-country to visit his parents' home in Florida during his trip with Gabby Petito, according to the Laundrie family's lawyer, Steven Bertolini. The attorney confirmed to CBS News that Laundrie flew home on August 17 and returned to Utah on August 23, 4 days before Petito was last seen.

[quote]According to Bertolini, Laundrie flew to Florida to get some supplies and close a storage unit to save money. He and Petito were thinking about extending their road trip, Bertolini told CBS News Wednesday.

[quote]Laundrie flew back to Florida shortly after he and Petito were stopped by police over a domestic dispute. Officers from the Moab Police Department in Utah stopped the couple on August 12 after a bystander reported seeing Petito slap Laundrie, who then "grabbed her face and pushed her back."

[quote]Five days later, Laundrie flew to Florida, where [bold]he stayed at his parent's home in Fort Lauderdale for six days before returning to Petito.[/bold]

[quote]Petito last video chatted with her mother on August 23 or 24 and was last seen on August 27. On September 1, Laundrie returned home in the couple's 2012 Ford Transit van without Petito. Petito's family reported her missing on September 11, sparking the nationwide hunt that ended when police found her body in Wyoming on September 19.

[quote]Police found the remnants of a campsite that appeared to be used recently in Florida's Carlton Reserve

[...]

[quote]Laundrie's father, Chris Laundrie, went to the reserve on Thursday morning to help law enforcement's search, family attorney Steven Bertolino told CNN.

[quote]"Chris was asked to point out any favorite trails or spots that Brian may have used in the preserve. Although Chris and Roberta Laundrie provided this information verbally 3 weeks ago it is now thought that on-site assistance may be better," he said.

[quote]Additionally, the North Port Police Department confirmed that a notice was placed on an abandoned vehicle belonging to the Laundrie family near the nature reserve on September 14.

[quote]after a bystander reported seeing Petito slap Laundrie

They got that wrong, we know now that the bystander saw him hit her. I wonder if they just went on old information, or if the attorney told them the wrong thing?

Very much interested in hearing more about this campsite they found.

Two comments about the FBI & Chris Laundrie at the reserve:

[quote]If the FBI had found something interesting then many more agents would have been in the CR today, but instead ChL and a single FBI agent in a John Deere cart drove to a spot and looked at something. I suspect the whole action had other reasons. Possibly the FBI just wants to find out what ChL and RL are telling each other once he gets home (house is bugged). Does RL wants to know if traces of Brian were found, or is she rather asking how the FBI behaved ? Just speculation of course, but something doesn't seem to be as it seems.

*****

[quote]So does anyone else think this whole Chris Laundrie going to help search the Carlton reserve for an hour or so thing was a publicity stunt for him to appear to be “helpful”, or no? Yesterday their lawyer claimed the parents supposedly tried to help search, but NPPD cops said to come another time. NPPD claims this never happened and directed questions on it to FBI. No on confirms this and everyone on social media seems to think it’s bs. Then suddenly he goes today? CL spent less time searching for his “missing” son than I’ve spent on hold with Xfinity. Then the video of CL speeding away from Fox News after he left the “search”. This whole cause is just so weird.

Interesting theory which may or may not be viable re how Brian could have survived in the swamp. Apologies for the computer voice.

[quote]New Laundrie attorney Mr. Bertolino statement: "Today Chris Laundrie accompanied members of law enforcement into the Reserve to show them the trails and places Chris and Brian have hiked and which Brian was known to frequent. There were no discoveries but the effort was helpful to all. It seems the water in the Preserve is receding and certain areas are more accessible to search. The entire Laundrie family is grateful for the hard work of the dedicated members of law enforcement that have been searching the Preserve for Brian over the last few weeks. Hopefully Brian will be located soon."

[quote]CNN now reporting that police spokesman says NO campsite has been found in the reserve. As in, the "recent" campsite we all heard about last night.

[quote]It was just on tv. Victor Blackwell had a reporter on. I didn't catch her name, sorry.

This comment made me chuckle.

[quote]Brian Entin chasing Chris like he's Princess Diana is really about what I would expect from someone like Brian Entin. Need those views, no matter the cost.

I liked Brian Entin at first but when he started following Chris Laundrie today I was really put off.

At least Brian Entin is keeping Gabby's vicious murder in the news. Some suspect if Brian's parents were dirt poor FBI would have nabbed him already.

He's also doing a weekly expose on other overlooked but unsolved missing victims.

Same here, R376.

[quote]He's also doing a weekly expose on other overlooked but unsolved missing victims.

That's good to know, R377.

Today is the 20th day of the hunt for Brian in the Florida wilds. In that period, John Walsh, a brigade of internet sleuths, and Dog the Bounty Hunter have joined the search but have turned up nothing substantial. Meanwhile, local authorities, after finding nothing, have turned the case over to the FBI, who, after scouring the Floridian swamps, to the virtual exclusion of other possible leads from other areas of the country, likewise have found nothing.

In the interim, Gabby Petito's body was found by LE and a colorfully controversial Wyoming coroner determined that she was murdered, but no further details have been released, leading followers of the case to speculate what's going on.

Now the FBI is asking the father of the principal (make that only) person of interest, still not a suspect, to help with the investigation. This is the same father who helped hide Gabby's disappearance, and likely even her murder, for at least 10 days, and his son's flight from justice for at least 3 days.

I swear, if I had never heard of this case and someone were to describe it to me, I'd think it's a Month Python or Mel Brooks comedy script, or else some dark comedy featuring the Keystone Cops.

I sincerely hope some abusive unemployed murderous bald 20-something barefooted nature enthusiast hasn't gotten the better of dozens of various law enforcement agencies. Because that would be epically embarrassing.

At this point Brian's had enough time to move to Bolivia, take on a new identity, start a family and advise the local government on means of repressing opposition through murder.

"Brian Laundrie flew cross-country to visit his parents' home in Florida during his trip with Gabby Petito, according to the Laundrie family's lawyer, Steven Bertolini. The attorney confirmed to CBS News that Laundrie flew home on August 17 and returned to Utah on August 23, 4 days before Petito was last seen."

What was Gabby doing the week Brian was gone? Camping alone? Or maybe she met a guy who hadn't just smacked her in the face. Anyone have baseless speculation to add?

We don't know much. The conventional wisdom is that she was staying at the Fairfield Inn and Suites at the Salt Lake City International Airport, as she was seen there the morning of 24 August (which would have been after BL's arrival back from his 17 - 23 August trip) and the hotel reported she had been multiple days. It's possible that she was working on their YouTube video and preparing stuff for social media for potential posting. She posted a retrospective photo on 20 August.

Perhaps she was living in the van by herself during part of his absence, but it's doubtful considering how (unfortunately) dependent she was on him. Obviously, this would have cost money that she hadn't budgeted into the trip.

CNN updated the article linked at R369:

[quote][bold]Police say no campsite was found at the nature reserve during search for Brian Laundrie[/bold]

[quote]North Port Police say investigators did not find a campsite in the sprawling nature reserve that has been the focus of the search for Brian Laundrie, the missing fiancé of Gabby Petito.

[quote]Police spokesperson Josh Taylor's confirmation that there was no campsite comes after a source close to the Laundrie family told CNN's Chris Cuomo that they had been informed by investigators that police had made a discovery in Florida's Carlton Reserve.

[quote]The source on Thursday insisted that the Laundrie family had been told a campsite had been found.

[quote]"Is it possible that they thought that there might be a campsite out there or something they may have seen from the air but when they got on the ground that's not what it turned out to be? Sure, I think that's a possibility," Taylor said. "Bottom line, is that investigators are telling me that no campsite was found out there."

R380, Why do you think Brian's in Bolivia rather than another South of the Border country?

Mrs. Laundrie and her lawyer have personal contacts in various countries, as does Cassie's husband.

One of the WFLA news anchors joined Reddit and is posting in the Gabby Petito sub.

R384 I think r380 was being humorous.

Lighten up.

Let me get this straight. So the only source of info that the FBI has used to spend all this time and money in the Carlton Reserve is Brian's parents statement that he was going hiking there? When the entire family is a collection of pathological liars?

R387 Florida PD wasted their resources on the dumb swamp first.

R387

Well his car was there and had to be taken away when he didn’t return. He evidently DID go there.

I don't think he ever went there. The Laundries want everyone to think that, so they parked his car there. He is long gone out of the country, the FBI likely told the father they found a fresh campsite to gauge his reaction, and the father went there pretending like his son could be there.

I just sincerely want to say "Thanks" to you DL posters for the reporting and insights and humor. It's a fine diversion from all the Covid stuff.

If Dog, Walsh, and FBI have not seen hide nor hair of this average young dude, he's probably gone ... done in by his dad, of course, because anger runs in the family, and buried in their Florida garden.

Any family member or friend could have driven his car to the swamp. Or Brian may have driven the car and then been picked up by a friend.

I think Cassie and her husband ate him.

Brian Entin @BrianEntin Correspondent for @NewsNationNow based in Miami. Traveler. Aviation nut. Dog lover. Total newshound. Email: bentin@newsnationnow.com Miami, FLNewsNationNow.comJoined April 2012

Just talked to Dennis the hiker again. He says he met with the FBI yesterday for 45 minutes. He says they took a lot of notes and they are taking him seriously. ·

Coincidence that the FBI "handler" with Chris Laundire resembles Brian?

Tea Crime Club @TeaCrimeClub· Not sure this should be public but well……..

Daniel Victor @dvictor11 Replying to @BabyLyssaC

All, they towed a BRAND NEW, immaculately clean atv that now gives the FBI Chris’s fingerprints, and they also have the MACID of his cellphone to intercept communications. Even just that was well worth the time, and even worth manufacturing something for him to see.

nik t. hatziefstathiou @nikthehat · (1/2) #GabbyPetito: I submitted q’s to lawyer for #BrianLaundrie + parents asking: was 9/6 at Fort de Soto the last time Cassie + parents spoke

is Brian on meds how will Brian refill meds did Brian take meds recently

is it true Chris Laundrie owned a “glock” and—

nik t. hatziefstathiou @nikthehat · —stored it in #BrianLaundrie’s glove compartment in the Mustang

did Chris / Roberta Laundrie report the “glock” stolen from the Mustang in the park.

His response was “No comment” for 1-3. Ignored glock. Will try again after lunch (assuming he’s at lunch). #GabbyPetito (2/2)

Im sure criminals flee the country everyday, but how easy is it to do undetected?

How do we know that Gabby wasn't killed while Brian was in Florida by the real killer?

Beginner-level logic tells me that if Brian is innocent, he would have come forward with all the family lawyers already.

I cannot believe the police are this fascinated with the swamp. WTH? Seriously. That just feels like a farce. Brian is psychotic enough to go camping after killing Gabby. I hardly think he chose Swamp Hiding over running north...And according to the news I saw all Daddy did today was point to trails he thought Brian would go down? Again---what the hell?

In for a penny in for a pound. The FBI knows the Laundries have sent them on a wild goose chase costing them enormous resources in terms of manpower and money and are too humiliated to pull out now.

R398, Brian's uncle owns a boat rental service. Brian's parents have money plus connections in multiple South American countries.

Let's place bets then: when someone (not any of those dipshit LEO eating Dunkin in the swamp) find Brian, will he have offed himself with his Daddy's glock from the Stang's glovebox or will he have decided to puss out with liquor and (finally his) medication?

That coward isn't going to just stop running and man up. He's too big of a baby. Do, pills or firearm?

I don't know how outlandish it would be for Dog's team to be playing down (at R328) what might have been a legitimate lead back up at the AT in the TN/NC area in order to assist the investigation and fool BL into thinking they're not on his tail. Or it just may have been a mistaken ID that was backed up my multiple other mistaken IDs in the TN/NC border area (as relayed by Skyline News R267).

As this search drags on and more information trickles in, while I think the parents are complicit in covering for him, I am having doubts about just how elaborate their scheming was. As I referenced earlier in R328, the shit hit the fan on 11 Sep. I'm not sure BL's parents could have conceptualised just how much this case took on a life of its own. Whatever plans they had must have been hurried as 1) He was still sticking around his parents' home ten days after his return when this story went national, and 2) He was gone--according to the latest intel--within the next 48 hours hours.

Occam's Razor--to me, based on all this--would be that the parked Mustang wasn't a devious tactic, and that BL is somewhere in the reserve, probably dead, as it has been 24 days. That being said, I still wouldn't rule out BL being in the AT, but that would be the parents were way more involved and strategic than perhaps they should be given credit for, as R402 could also be right.

R399, BL was with GP on 27 August. There are verified eyewitness accounts at the Merry Piglet by the Tik Tokker from Louisiana and the restaurant management. Their van was cited at around 6:15 PM that evening by the Bethune family parked along a gravel road next to the creek bed where GP's body was found. GP's mother received a text that very day that was uncharacteristic of GP and highly indicative that someone other than her sent it. Two different people attested to picking up as a hitchhiker two days later not far from that area. He made no mention that his fiancee was dead.

Daily Mail shows Brian's dad having a pleasant stroll in the park while searching for his missing son, who may have killed his future daughter-in-law. The mind reels.

I think that there have been 11 additional sightings of Brian near where Dennis the Hiker spoke to Brian at the border of NC and TN. Dennis thinks that Brian was headed to nearby Gatlinburg, TN, which is a popular hiding spot for fugitives besides being a favorite of tourists.

Brian better stay the hell out of Dollywood! Dolly deserves to be free of Brian's brand of evil.

TN anti-vaxxers hassle people who wear masks. Wearing a Covid mask may make Brian stand out from other people.

Oh goody, R408. Maybe it'll be Brian & His Voices vs. The Shitbag Anti-Vaxxers, with no survivors! 🎉

What's partly fascinating is the behaviour of the parents, like R406 just mentioned. Every situation has a context, but, my God, I couldn't help but be perplexed by the shot of the father smiling (laughing?) with the agent (who may or may not have deliberately been assigned to escort him due to how much he resembled BL).

The ability of the parents to remain so cool, calm, and collected since this story broken over three weeks ago is just mind-boggling. Their demeanour is what has made it easier to believe that they are capable of such elaborate scheming that they would invite the daughter and their grandkids to a final get-together with BL without telling her anything, before creating the Mustang distraction that got him up to the AT, closer to the uncle.

Then again, maybe their approach was more hands-off. Perhaps they harboured him whilst he figured out what to do. Once he decided that he was going to go off to the Reserve, they were like, "Good luck son!" Maybe they're emotionally detached. But, then, they were invested enough to not implore him to turn himself in. Their pathology is interesting.

R407, I am only aware of Dennis Davis and five other IDs in that area in article referenced at R267. Do you have a link to the others?

Here's Amanda Smith saying she saw him driving a van 30 September with someone else in the cab, about 80 miles east from where Dennis Davis spotted him 2 October. She took a picture of the van.

She doesn't come across as credible to me as Davis, but who knows.

Brian apprehended at Dollywood, TN! What a headline.

R409 Plus, it is not easy being a vegan in TN.

R412 Dolly gave Vanderbilt Medical researchers a donation of $1 Million to fund the Moderna vaccine. The anti-vaxxers' heads would explode if Dolly caught Brian at Dollywood.

Dollywood is near the towns of Pigeon Forge, Sevierville, and Gatlinburg, TN.

[quote]Plus, it is not easy being a vegan in TN.

Don’t cry for me. It’s not that difficult when you’re a “vegan” who eats salmon and Chobani yogurt.

Finding attractive melon rinds to drink out of, on the other hand…

I thought that the FBI in Florida was going to take Brian's dad to see his old truck camper parked somewhere out in the swampland. The FBI would ask Bran's dad how his camper got out there.

R417 Salmon? You mean salmon croquettes or catfish?

Just wait until Brian finds out the 3-Vegetable Plate he just ate had pork in every dish.

I think he is in some obsure place, maybe even a state park...I used to go to the state park in Wewahitcha (in the panhandle). It's between Tallahassee and Panama City. Totally deserted area. Shower facilities...A guy in a tent could find a hiding spot easily enough off the main path...That is the only way I can explain him being gone this long..I used to go hiking out there. Never a soul around...Even if you saw someone it was from a distance...A lot of areas like that in the Panhandle. Where is my reward money?

When Brian runs out of women to mooch off of (Gabby, Lard Sister, Enabling Mommy), the voices will convince him it's time to go.

I agree with those who say that Brian was NEVER in the reserve, and I don't think the FBI believes he was ever there, either. But they know the Laundrie parents were there, doing God knows what. Probably tossing evidence. The evidence is what they're after in that location-- not Brian or Brian's body. They know he's long gone.

If Brian is in the Appalachia area he is due for some upcoming cold weather..

He must be running out of food and water, especially since he won't drink from plastic bottles haha. Even if mommy loaded his pack with a ton of MRE he still needs water.

R422 = No he isn't. Mommy will send her little angel a coat and winter socks.

" Dennis thinks that Brian was headed to nearby Gatlinburg, TN, which is a popular hiding spot for fugitives"

Why would Gaitlinburg be a favorite hiding spot for fugitives? Tell me more!

And if Brian is trying to hide in the woods off the Appalachian trail, it's likely enough that he'll get lost in the woods and never be seen again. You don't go off the path on large swaths of the Appalachian trail, if you do, you're likely to die.

RE: Appalachian Trail/TN-NC-border-area Sightings.

In all of these instances, thus far, the sightings have been associated with a vehicle (Hyundai Sonata, the pickup truck Davis saw him in, and now a van that this Smith woman mentions), along with another person. I don't believe one of these AT sightings actually put him on the AT free of any vehicle, which I think is interesting. Having him in a vehicle makes him more vulnerable to being found out (requiring him to buy fuel) than someone who is actually hiking the trail and living off the land.

R425, I ran across this Youtube tarot card reader who lives in the Smoky Mountains. He talks about why fugitives hide in Gatlinburg.

This is the first video that I watched by the Smoky Mtn tarot reader. He has an usual way of throwing the cards, which he calls the "Ghost Card, the card the spirits pick with a distinct message.

I see he has a new video posted about Brian's dad joining the search.

I haven't been to Gatlinburg but have lots of family in TN and have visited often.

Sevierville had a devastating fire few years back, so I don't know whether there are many hiding places there. Bless her heart, Dolly Parton, gave the victims of the fire Basic Income of $1000/month as long as they needed it. Dolly is an angel.

Ghost Card redaing about Brians dad joining the search.

I haven't watched it.

I've watched a handful of Spirit Box sessions with Gabby and there is some conflicting stuff. Sometimes she says that Brian is dead. One time she said he was alive in St. Croix. Another time she said he was in Canada.

^^ Forgot the end quote on "Ghost Card."

Isn't it considerably easier to live off the land in a Florida swamp, than along the Appalachian trail? There's a lot more fish and large birds in Florida swamps than in the forests of the AT.

AT hikers don't live off the land as they go, they bring food and they buy more when they run out.

DL has now reduced this thread to GHOSTS commenting on the Laundrie Family?....Oh my...

Out of respect for my Appalachian neighbors. I have heard it said wrong on numerous shows.

New Bern is right off the Intercoastal Waterway.

R433 he is correct but he took forever to make the point.

Oh, good. The Tarot Troll again.

R435 I’m gonna throw an apple at cha

[quote]The FBI knows the Laundries have sent them on a wild goose chase costing them enormous resources in terms of manpower and money and are too humiliated to pull out now.

It's like when a couple of dubious friends convince you to fuck some highly recommended escort in a dark room. You're convinced you're having the time of your life, then suddenly the lights turn on and you realize you're balls-deep in an old toothless hooker, but you still determinedly keep pounding away because you've already paid. You're just praying nobody notices.

[quote]Police in North Port, Florida, were surveilling Brian Laundrie, Gabby Petito's fiancé, as best as they could legally before he vanished, police spokesperson Josh Taylor told CNN's Randi Kaye on Thursday.

[…]

[quote]CNN also learned that authorities never spoke with Laundrie before he went missing, even though they had eyes on him. When police went to the North Port home September 11, he was not seen and there was no opportunity to speak with him, Taylor told CNN.

[…]

[quote]Authorities do not have the phone Laundrie had with him on the couple's trip, nor do they have Petito's phone. Neither phone was in Petito's van, which Laundrie drove back to Florida, Taylor told CNN.

[…]

[quote]North Port police confirmed that a notice was placed on an abandoned Ford Mustang belonging to the Laundrie family outside the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park on September 14. The park acts as an entrance to Carlton Reserve.

[quote]Bertolino, the family attorney, told CNN that upon further communication with the FBI, "we now believe the day Brian left to hike in the preserve was Monday September 13." His parents had previously told authorities he had left on September 14.

[quote]Chris Laundrie went to look for his son on the night of September 13 when he didn't return from the park, Bertolino told CNN on Wednesday. The next day, Brian's parents returned to the area to look for Brian and saw the citation on the car, Bertolino said. The parents returned again the next day, September 15, to retrieve the vehicle.

[quote]"The Laundries were basing the date Brian left on their recollection of certain events. Upon further communication with the FBI and confirmation of the Mustang being at the Laundrie residence on Wednesday September 15, we now believe the day Brian left to hike in the preserve was Monday September 13," Bertolino said.

[quote]CNN asked Bertolino whether Brian's parents believe he's in the reserve or another area. "No, they don't believe he's in another area. They believe he is in the preserve," he said.

More internet speculation:

[quote]Why now would CL assist the police in the search. We’ll that got me thinking…

[quote]I’m an attorney (and former criminal defense attorney) and I think this is why. Look at the (1) TIMELINE + (2) THE ATTORNEY’s RECENT STATEMENTS: This week BL’s parents admitted he left on 13th & not the 14th after new evidence came to light that disproved their version of events (we can infer this from the attorney’s statement about a recent convo with the FBI). This evidence showed that the mustang wasn’t in the driveway on the 13th AND that CL’s truck wasn’t in the driveway on the evening of the 13th for several hours (see Brian Etin’s videos). When CL is questioned by the FBI, he THEN claims that he mixed up the dates—that BL left the 13th not the 14th AND that he left the house on the evening of the 13th FOR SEVERAL HOURS TO SEARCH for Brian in the preserve (attorney then issues a statement to support CL’s new version of events). The REASON the FBI asked CL to come out and “assist” in the search yesterday was to have CL show them WHERE he allegedly searched for BL for several hours on the evening of the 13th. That’s why they were searching on foot for three hours (as opposed to using a tractor which would be faster). The FBI wants to prove that CL is lying about searching the preserve for BL on the evening of the 13th (either because there were trail cams on the route he allegedly took that show he wasn’t there, or because the area would have been underwater and impossible to pass at the time he claims he went there, etc. that’s why the search lasted approximately 3 1/2 hours-because that’s approximately how long CL claimed he searched for BL on the evening of the 13th. Attorney’s statement about “pointing out Brian’s favorite trails and hangouts” is only half of the truth—CL likely told the FBI he searched for BL on the evening of the 13th in areas/on trails that were BL’s favorite. Just my two cents.

[quote]When police went to the North Port home September 11, he was not seen and there was no opportunity to speak with him, Taylor told CNN.

Ah, clarity. I saw an article say that the police HAD seen him and he just wouldn't talk, and I even linked to it, but when I went back to the article that whole passage had been removed. I wondered if it was because it had been a mistake, and I guess it was.

No surprise those parents said he left on the 14th when it was the 13th. It could have been even earlier, probably when the cops showed up on the 11th they call got spooked and he ran off.

[quote]His parents had previously told authorities he had left on September 14.

[quote]Chris Laundrie went to look for his son on the night of September 13 when he didn't return from the park, Bertolino told CNN on Wednesday.

Yeah, they didn't accidentally get those dates confused when they talked to the cops, not if the dad went out to search for him the night of the 13th.

That theory posted at r440 makes sense to me, and I'd bet they won't find the dad on any trail cams that night.

But if they've been searching the reserve this whole time based entirely on what Brian's parents said, they are idiots.

[quote]Q: Are the parents in legal jeopardy?

[quote]It’s hard to say because we don’t know all the facts. To be arrested for being an accessory after the fact you would have to have knowledge that Brian committed a crime and then you would have to take actions to prevent his arrest or his punishment and we just don’t know what the parents know. Now we can make an inference that they know because Brian came back without Gabby, they didn’t tell anyone, they refused to communicate with Gabby’s parents and so it looks bad for them in the court of public opinion but prosecutors are not going to file charges against them unless they have definitive proof, proof that that they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were involved in some way in a crime.

[quote]I don’t think they were promised immunity, I think their lawyer may have told them to talk to the FBI. The FBI probably distrusts them based on their silence so this could help them avoid a charge of being an accessory after the fact. Interestingly, when they communicated with the FBI about Brian’s whereabouts, according to reports they refused to communicate with the FBI about anything to do with Gabby so obviously that tells you something, but it’s hard to know at this stage what their level of cooperation is with the FBI because the FBI handles these things in secret. All we know is what we saw on camera today, we saw the father go out there, it looks like they are worried about their son but there are also other things like they didn’t report their son missing for 5 days. He went missing on Monday without his phone, without his wallet, they didn’t report him gone until Friday so that’s suspicious in itself.

[quote]It makes me believe Cassie a little bit that she went out and talked to a group of protesters without a lawyer, she’s been cooperating from the beginning. She’s referred to Gabby as Gabby. Remember when Gabby went missing the parents issued a statement calling Gabby Miss Petito. That to me was a tell that they knew more. As far as why the parent’s lawyer are telling the parents not to communicate with Cassie I think it’s because the lawyer knows that there is no privilege to prevent the communication between the parents and their daughter from becoming public. Communication between spouses are protected under the law, there’s a spousal privilege in the law so what they say to each other is protected from disclosure but it’s not the same thing for the stuff they tell Cassie. Cassie can tell all what she is told by her parents and that’s why the lawyer says don’t talk to your daughter.

[quote]Prosecutors have a charge out there that will get him behind bars if and when he is caught and so there’s not a huge rush to charge him with murder because once you charge him with that serious crime then there are certain procedural rules in place. For example, you’ve got 180 days before you have to put him on trial for that case, that’s the speedy trial rule, it’s based on the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution. Also, there are rules that once someone is arrested prosecutors have to file charges within 30 days or that person goes free before trial without conditions. Prosecutors want to slow these things down whereas police want to rush it.

[quote]I think they got a tip, they got some evidence that Brian was out there in that swamp at some point and they are looking at it. They may have found a campsite or something. Or else I can’t imagine they would have brought the father out there. I don’t think they’re bringing the father out there to try to get him to talk against his attorney’s will because that’s not what the FBI does, that’s against their guidelines and they don’t want to jeopardize this case by breaking the rules, giving any chance to suppress evidence so I think this was just about a tip and it looks like he was there at some point although I’m not sure he’s there right now. I think the person up on the Appalachian Trail may have something there, it looks like the FBI spoke to that witness for about 45 minutes today.

Carlton Reserve closes at 6 pm which further makes CL look like a total liar. If his son had frequented the swamp then why didn't dad know that fact?

R444

Where did it say CL did NOT know Carlton Reserve closes at 6pm? He went out there in the daytime with the FBI for 2 hours and then left. ?

What are you talking about?

He means when CL went to search for Brian, r445.

If it closes does that mean he can't access the reserve at all? Honest question. We have parks around here that close but they don't have gates or anything so you can still go there, until the cops chase you off, at least.

R446, Thanks for clarifying my post. Yes it doesn't make sense that CL went alone to search for Brian at night in a swamp after the park was closed back in mid-Sept.

Link to a Twitter feed from an amateur reporter with a lot of followers. Both sensible info and wild theories.

Claims to be the 1st to state Brian's a serial killer (murder of 2 lesbians?) and was told my LE email to keep quiet about it.

Now NY Post says Dog's reviving that theory based mainly on Brian's reading material.

PNN also claims Rose Davis is somehow involved and that Gabby stepped out on Brian when he flew to FL. Lots of speculation re the latter theory even naming a man from AL.

[quote]Now NY Post says Dog's reviving that theory based mainly on Brian's reading material.

Dog may be distracted by personal issues for a while, R448: breach of contract, defamation, homophobia, racism & convicted felon carrying an illegal weapon (taser)

So, if I sign up for a YouTube account, and make a few videos, I can call it "news", and call myself a "newscaster"? There are no reliable news sources anywhere, anymore. If I went on Reddit, and posted "I went to a Starbucks in Mississippi, and Brian Laundrie was my Barista!"? CNN would be reporting it, in less that two hours.

R450 = Yes you could....LINK = Ths guy is an expert on all things "evil" Hollywood. And Trump. He has mastered the Photoshop Red Eyeballs too...I wouldn't be surprised if he writes a book about Incels next. He has 190,000 followers and I just can't imagine how many of them are Magas....So much for YT cracking down...

So… what does DL think of the crackpot theory that Brian is hiding UNDER his parents’ flower bed? I saw it on Google News, came here to see what Datalounge was saying, but I can’t find any discussion about it.

FLOWERBED THEORY (with photos).....LINK..

Thanks, R453. I gotta say, I don’t see a damn thing in that video.

They are not gonna find him and will eventually stop looking.

Cops are so fucking incompetent when it comes to enforcing the law against "certain" people.

He'll go live in some other part of the country. White men disappear like this all the time and take on new identities to get away with shit.

[quote]So… what does DL think of the crackpot theory that Brian is hiding UNDER his parents’ flower bed?

Breaking news: He just emerged.

A drone shot from the Laundries' back yard at night. It looks like Brian's hand. 🧐

If he’s living, I’ll piss in his mouth. If dead, I’ll piss on his grave.

R423 If Brian is in TN, he has these options for his water:

1. Moonshine jug 2. Stainless steel Tennessee Titans water bottle 3. Mountain Dew can

People believe Q-anon stuff, why shouldn't they believe the Flowerbed theory?

People are stupid.

[quote]too humiliated to pull out now

Pics please.

the flowerbed stuff, are you fucking serious? who believes this?

It's honestly terrifying that this flowerbed theory has made it to what I THOUGHT were legitimate news sources.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Brian is in the backyard shed and nobody bothered to look there?...

Want a better rabbit hole discussed on Twitter by "citizen sleuths?"

Father of one of the murdered lesbians found a key card near the bodies. It's linked to a climbing club and to Brian. Some LE think Brian is a serial killer. We know he can use a gun.

Tea Crime Club Retweeted robyn @robyn87651971 Replying to @xxjanedoexx2209 and @TeaCrimeClub Wonder why the family found the keys and not the police. Not much confidence in the police

The key card wasn't linked to Brian, it was potentially a key card to a rock climbing club and some people think, based on a photo on his IG, that he used to work at a rock climbing club, but that's it.

Kylen's dad turned over the key card to the police apparently.

Brian's dad kept a Glock 9 in the glovebox of Brian's Mustang. Now, of course, Brian's mom has filed a police report that the gun was stolen from the Mustang when it was parked in the swamp.

So yes, Brian is carrying his dad's Glock no matter what a persistent poster keeps saying that Brian doesn't have a gun.

I tried to find a Youtube link that I just ran across where Vinnie Politan (HLN) had a panel of male talking heads and they were going to discuss the Moab murders. Vinnie said some new info that was shocking to me. He said that both women were shot multiple times in the back, front, and sides. I have only heard that both women were shot once in the head.

R466, Thank you for that updated info. Don't you think it's questionable that Moab LE didn't find the key card? Good that Kylen's dad is on top of things.

Don't know whether or not Brian's a serial killer, or there's another homophobic psycho in the area. However linking the stories keeps the tragic double murder from being buried. I don't fully trust Moab LE to do due diligence.

When did Brian's parents file a missing person's report for Brian with police?

Of course people believe the flowerbed theory. We live in a country where a group of people took Operation Jade Helm seriously and believe Trump had the election stolen from him. Those morons would believe any conspiracy theory.

My feeling is that it would be strange and odd if the murders of the two women and Petito’s murder WEREN’T connected. As others have posted—Occam’s razor. What are the odds that two homicidal maniacs were in a remote area at the same time?

Question btw—can anyone confirm that the fight between GP and BL happened in the parking lot of the store where the two women were working? I believe I read that neither were in the store that day though. The two women disappeared later that night and were killed and their bodies were found days later?

[quote]Don't you think it's questionable that Moab LE didn't find the key card? Good that Kylen's dad is on top of things.

I don't have any idea when Kylen's dad found them or where they were, so I can't even begin to speculate as to whether they're part of the case.

The best I can tell, he said he took them to the police and they said they weren't related and the keys were a "dead end."

I go back and forth on that, r471. I believe I read that someone else in the camping area said he also saw a "creepy old guy" but now I can't find that, so maybe I'm not remembering right. We do know the couple saw a "creepy guy" hanging around, and my gut instinct is that Brian wouldn't have had any way to get there without the van. However, if he and Gabby got back together that night and didn't stay separated, he may have had access to the van. We just don't know.

We do know that they were fighting in the parking lot of the Moonflower, it's in the police bodycams. That was the afternoon of August 12th. Kylen was employed there and had worked that morning but wasn't there when the fight happened, apparently.

Kylen and Crystal were last seen on August 13th, a day after the fight, and believed to have been killed on the 14th. They were found on the 18th.

Brian left to go back to Florida on the 17th.

Maybe Brian killed Gabby because she knew about his involvement in the killing of the married couple.

"Kylen was employed there and had worked that morning but wasn't there when the fight happened, apparently."

Kylen worked at the Moonflower from 9:00 AM until 3:00 PM that day, and both Brian and Abby told the police they had been hanging out in or around the coop "all day." So there was plenty of time for interaction.

And yes, there are a lot of crazy, violent heterosexual men in this world, but this still seems way too coincidental.

Nobody has answered my question and I couldn't find an answer online. So they never filed a missing person report on Brian so they don't consider him missing? He just went for an extended hike and they know he's fine? But they put in a report for a missing gun?

[quote] It's honestly terrifying that this flowerbed theory has made it to what I THOUGHT were legitimate news sources.

I agree, and that’s how I felt earlier this week when those kooky “Zodiac Killer identified!” stories were published.

Most news outlets these days print bs because even that makes money and sometimes it’s because it suits theI agenda. That is why the phrase ‘fake news’ came about. The sad thing is so many believe the bunk.

Fake News was actually basically “hoax” articles. Nonsense written by people who knew they were writing lies. It was done either as a joke or to serve a political interest. It happened in the lead-up to the 2016 election. Trump took the term and ran with it, completely bastardizing it.

I’m not sure what examples you had in mind, R478. Am I describing what you were thinking of? The stories that fit the pre-Trump definition of ‘fake news’ weren’t mainstream and still aren’t.

R676, Yes the Laundrie's called 911 re Brian 3 days after he left his cell and wallet behind.

Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie Case @RIPGabbyPetito· Sep 27 Brian Laundrie's parents didn't hesitate to call the cops on @DogBountyHunter but it took them 3 days to call the cops when their SON went "missing."

Absolute joke. If the word "GUILTY" had a name, it would be "LAUNDRIE" #BrianLaundrie #dogthebountyhunter #GabbyP

That time sounds right r475, it was reported that she got off work about an hour and a half prior to the altercation, which was 4:30PM. It would be kind of weird if Gabby and Brian hung around a small co-op for hours.

Also I realize now that Kylen and Crystal were seen at a bar on the 13th after Gabby and Brian would have presumably gotten back together, having spent only the night of the 12th apart, so I wonder how he could have managed to be creeping around their campsite when he and Gabby were back together in the van by then.

It is one hell of a coincidence, though. You'd also expect that, if there were a creeper roaming around attacking women at campsites, he would have struck again by now.

[quote]A day before Turner and Schulte went missing, an incident related to another unsolved case happened just outside the Moonflower, where Schulte had been working until 3 p.m. on Aug. 12. A witness called 911 to report a possible domestic incident between Petito and her fiancé, Brian Laundrie, around 4:30 p.m. that day.

R481, It's been repeatedly reported that Gabby & Brian hung around the Moonflower Coop all day editing their travel videos. Does the Coop have free or low-cost internet?

Laundrie FL home was approved for a bunker years ago.

Oh, Jesus, R483! LOL. I will kinda love it it turns out he's been there the whole time.

They weren't hanging out in the Moonflower parking lot all day on the 12th though, they were across the street at the coffee shop with the wi-fi, correct?

[quote]Oh, Jesus, R483! LOL. I will kinda love it it turns out he's been there the whole time.

"We're as surprised as anyone!"

That lady's bunker tweet has been deleted.

Her tweet about that FBI agent at the reserve who looked just like Brian is still up. It's freakish. I'm sure the FBI said, "Hey Agent Bob, you look like Brian, go talk to his dad and see what happens" but it's still creepy.

R487, Lady's corrected bunker Tweet with lots of info linked.

Are we to believe that the FBI, all local LEO and walking skin cancer Dog BH all missed an underground bunker in Mommy and Daddy's front yard, then? Alright.

R489, Not saying Brian's been hiding out in an underground bunker but that his lawyer as well as Mommy & Daddy know exactly where he's been. If all were smart they'd negotiate a surrender before he gets shot.

Why don't these people become actual detectives, FBI agents, or true crime writers?

Where's Hans Landa when we need him?

R479

Then evidently you believe the media's bs stories? Like when it was reported Hillary was fired on by snipers in Bosnia, and that turned out to be false. Or when they reported that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary even though Sen. Clinton was born in 1947, and Sir Edmund Hillary and his partner Tenzing Norgay did not ascend Mount Everest until 1953. How about when Brian Williams, the nation’s top-rated news anchor, has admitted fabricating a tale of being forced down by enemy fire in a helicopter over Iraq a dozen years ago, only it was found out that never happened and he only admitted to it after it was pointed out. Or how about when CNN's chief medical correspondent, Gupta, who was a neurosurgeon, boasted that he went to Nepal after its devastating April earthquake and performed a lifesaving brain operation on a girl who’d suffered injuries to her skull, But it was discovered the girl never had brain surgery — or surgery of any kind — and was treated only for a broken wrist and some minor head wounds. Or how about this one? CNN originally denounced Trump’s claim in March of 2017 that former President Barack Obama was wiretapping phones in Trump Tower as a “flat-out lie.” Then, in September of 2017, CNN reported that the FBI had a wiretap on former campaign chairman Paul Manafort — who has a residence in Trump Tower. While it is unclear if the FBI tapped Manafort’s phones in Trump Tower or picked up his conversations with the president, it’s plausible enough that CNN should not be dismissing Trump’s claims out of hand but it suited their agenda to write it. Or how about the salacious and unverified Steele dossier was paid for by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, but that hasn’t stopped CNN from pinning the document on the GOP. Former Obama official and current CNN reporter Jim Sciutto was just one network talking-head who claimed the dossier was “initially paid for by Republicans.” Or CNN claimed that only Democratic members of Congress gathered to pray before the 2017 Congressional Baseball Game — the first game after House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot and nearly killed. But there were pictures of the prayer circle that clearly showed both Democrats and Republicans praying together, and CNN eventually deleted their tweet claiming otherwise. They knew but did not want to be caught red handed. The oldest and biggest: Trump colluded with Russia to win in 2016 and might be a Russian agent. That scam involved crooked FBI agents and led to the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who took two years to conclude there was no evidence to back the charge. How about the “kids in cages” firestorm, complete with gripping photographs of migrant children in metal containers? Democrats such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rushed to the border with photogenic outrage. They vanished when it was revealed the Obama-Biden administration built the cages and the heart-wrenching photos were from 2014. Or how about the “Muslim ban” that wasn’t? Or the 2017 tax cuts were only for the “rich” despite studies showing 80 percent of the population benefitted? So many others, the list goes on and on.

What if the fight between Gabby and Brian on August 12 was *because of* Turner and Schulte? Maybe Brian had gotten into it earlier with one or both women, then he took the van (maybe even with Gabby in it) to stake out Schulte's place of employment, maybe to settle a score. Then he confronted her after her shift.

OR, maybe Gabby and Brian were arguing about something else and Schulte happened to be the witness who saw them arguing that day. She might've come to Gabby's defense and confronted Brian.

Either way, Brian, might've developed a deadly grudge against Schulte because of such an encounter. Then Brian later could have gone to hunt down, sexually assault, and kill the ladies. He might've confessed it to Gabby, or else she otherwise knew what he'd done. She freaked out, they fought, then Brian killed Gabby.

As others have noticed, it's too coincidental how these two crimes overlap. The two couples likely were aware of each other in that small co-op.

Add to that the fact that Brian's parents have now reported a "stolen" Glock. What if Brian had the Glock with him the entire time on his van trip with Gabby? He could've used it to kill (premeditated) the lesbian couple. He might've used a different method — strangulation, for example — to kill Gabby (likely a crime of passion), which may be a reason why law enforcement might think the two cases aren't related. Brian then could've taken the gun back to Florida and asked his parents to dispose of it.

In any case, the overlap in dates and events are too powerful to ignore.

Oh 493, you must be despising Mar a Lago. So sad everyone hates you.

Jesus Christ, R493. No, I didn’t mean any of those stories. None of those are what I was describing at all.

They were all mainstream lies.

You can’t prove that any of the news outlets KNEW they weren’t true. Not a single one of those. To any thinking person, they weren’t deliberate “lies”. Fake news (deliberate lies, published by non-mainstream outlets and designed to spread online) is what I described at R479.

R491, Many talented & skilled people cannot afford college or the necessary training to go into criminal investigation fields. Others are limited by where they live or family circumstances. More don't realize their innate abilities until way later in life.

Maybe YouTube University can start giving those people Criminal Justice degrees and PI Licenses, along with the degrees in Medicine, epidemiology and chemistry they've been handing out since COVID, R499.

Do you have a laser printer and a magnifying glass?

[quote]Does the Coop have free or low-cost internet?

Moonflower has a small eat-in area with free wifi. At least it used to; I haven't been there since the pandemic.

Moab residents believe clues in the murder of the lesbian couple have been ignored by LE.

Well at least a non-MSM is willing to give the case some pap attention.

Sorry, Boris at R493. tl;dr.

Is the public losing interest in the story yet?

I can't believe that allegedly-bipolar outdoorsy Brian would be willing to spend weeks in a small, confined, underground space, even if he were afraid for his life and freedom. It'd be like jail, only with wifi and his mother's cooking, for what that's worth.

Betcha that if the bunker exists and the Laundries have access to it, and his parents offered it to him, he refused and decided he'd rather make a run for it in some fashion. Get a boat and take off for near or far, get a car and hit the road to a place he'd feel safe, head into a Florida swamp and get eaten by an alligator, whatever.

Brian being in a small space he's unable to leave, with no company, can't go outdoors or get fresh air, and shitty food, with only his voices and periodic visits from his enabling Mommy?

I'm liking the idea of this bunker more and more! Sounds similar to jail, except he can't get any DL penpals yet.

It's been over 2 hours since a body of a man was reported in the area of ATL No Carolina near where Dennis the engineer reported his encounter with Brian.

May not be BL as there are a lot of bodies found in the mountains. Also we don't know if the victim died by suicide or from an accident.

Laundrie's would have to be notified 1st before a public announcement. Still Twitter's suspect as there haven't been any denials it's BL.

Dave Faherty @FahertyWSOC9 · Breaking Watauga County- a body has been found near a popular overlook along the Blue Ridge Parkway. Sheriff deputies are confirming a male was discovered dead near the Thunder Hill overlook near Blowing Rock. Park Rangers, the SBI and sheriff deputies are investigating.

Dave Faherty @FahertyWSOC9 Breaking Watauga Co- sheriff deputies are now confirming to channel 9 that this is a death investigation.

This is a photo of the Thunder Hill Overlook near where the body was found. This photo is from last fall, at above link. (Cannot correctly link it on DL.) Dave Faherty is a local MSM reporter.

Dave Faherty reporter for several No Carolina counties Twitter link.

[quote]During an interview with NewsNation last night, Walsh made a claim about how Petito had been murdered by Laundrie, who remains as a person of interest in her homicide.

[…]

[quote]”Brian ‘Dirty Laundry’, and I call the Laundries dirty laundry because they are so dirty,” said Walsh as he was addressing Joe. “I mean he’s just a coward that beat to death a beau- probably beat to death a beautiful young girl.”

[quote]After he said that, you can see Joe visibly shaken — closing his eyes in thought. Walsh continues by saying that he needs to stay strong and not lose hope, even if the FBI does.

[quote]This wouldn’t be the first time that Walsh has shared this theory. In an interview with CNN, he also claimed that Laundrie beat Gabby to death, calling him a coward again.

[quote]”He’s an egomaniacal control freak,” Walsh said. “He’s too much of a coward. He beat to death a 95-pound, wonderful young lady, my heart goes out to that family.”

LINK.....Watauga County Investigators said they know who the body is already..They are going to reach out to the family before releasing the name publicly....Stay Tuned...This could be it....

R511, Why are you linking an article dated March 22,2021?

Because it could be Brian...DUH!!

Geez, you guys; try to keep up. They already identified Brian's body when he died that time in March.

No updates yet re the ID of the body found in No Carolina hiking trails. Nothing on the cause of death either.

Lots of flights directly over the area. Someone's spending a lot of money for unknown reasons. Strange.

The suspense is killing me.

Aren't there any DL psychics who have a sense where this fellow is? I'm thinking he's relaxing at one of his parents' properties, coloring and surfing the internet.

If Brian were actually found dead near a North Carolina hiking trail, the first thing I'd suspect is that someone who was aware of the story took the law into his own hands.

[quote]Aren't there any DL psychics who have a sense where this fellow is?

It's been said before: da cabins!!!

Toronto or Puerta Vallarta.

Strange Brian would try to hide out in AT when everyone knows what he looks like and everyone carries a gun.

Volunteers long ago passed out and posted his picture and identifying marks (like the tattoo on his hand) to hundreds of local small supply shops which hunters use in the entire AT area. Therefore even the anti-social hikers know there's a huge reward on his head.

Nerdy Addict @Nerdy_Addict The (2) unmarked (cars) aren’t at their (the Laundrie's) home, they were camped out down the street-

I always saw one when there but neighbor says another one is on street too now

life lessons 101 @y_u_ackinsocray Replying to @Nerdy_Addict

At the same time? When my brother took his life, when he was found, 2 unmarked cars showed up,

By now, this case consists of one of the following two scenarios: 1) BL is dead. 2) He’s out of the country and in hiding.

The first one is the most likely. Otherwise, he must have a Jason Bourne level of skill sets and intelligence that is allowing him to evade detection. Given what is known of him, that seems virtually impossible.

R522, Brian had a lot of family help.

He was repeatedly spotted driving his No Carolina uncles vehicle. Sometimes he was driving with a woman who resembled his uncle's daughter. Brian's parents weren't the only ones aiding him by buying him burner phones and a glock.

Nerdy Addict Retweeted Lauren Johnson @Lejohnson01 · Replying to @FahertyWSOC9

My fiancé and I found the body. I can confirm that it was NOT Brian Laundrie like everyone is asking..

NerdyAddict was the 1st to claim last night the body found wasn't Brian.

R523 With all of these alleged sightings, in broad daylight in well-traveled areas, it's difficult to imagine how he's evading capture. I'm not buying it. People are seeing what they want to see.

Even with the supposed aid of extended family, phones, glock, etc., the several sightings alone should be enough to zero in on him. There's a reason why LE isn't coalescing en masse every time someone claims they saw him.

He has such a generic look I am sure people are convinced they are seeing him everywhere.

I just come to this thread to see the gays speculate. I can't believe you guys are so interested in this story. Dude is clearly a murderous psychopath on the run and he's not even cute.

When we get bored with Brian----THIS CUTIE offed his mother......LINK...

Now I’m just annoyed by this case, I want to know the ending...I’m tired, I want to go to bed but I’ve sat through the movie and want to know how it ends to justify my investment.

He probably took a submarine.

R530 = After all this time there are only TWO LANES left at this point. Brian is not "on the run". He is either hiding in one particular location probably a shack or with some distant cousin being paid-- or Brian is dead. Brian is not out of the country. He isn't a nature expert living off the land. He not a criminal genius who murdered two lesbbys...

Man throws empty laundry baskets on the Laundri's lawn.

Chris Laundry removes a huge sigh with Gabby's picture on it in the middle of the night. It was placed there by a neighbor.

Twitter sleuths are looking into Laundrie's past financial dealings with their RE lawyer and doing an expose. Claims they deserve the moniker "Dirty Laundrie's."

Does anyone know what Mommy and Daddy do for a living?....They sure indulged Brians Slacker Lifestyle. And that mustang ain't cheap. Also Fatty Cassie (the sister) lives in an expensive house and yet she and her slobby husband look like they belong in a trailer park...Something is going on here...What does Cassie do that SHE can afford to live in that neighborhood? Video of her house...

Inside Edition (2 days ago) = They said there are free cabins all throughout the AT (which I didn't know). Video Bonus = Cutie Callahan Walsh makes an appearance. No Wife? DL knows what that means.

Check the cabins!

How could such a HOTTIE like Brian have such a PIG-FACED sister?

Hottie, R536?

R529, set a reminder on your phone, that's what I do with these cases that go nowhere. The Piedmont Park murder, the cause of death of those hikers (though I'm almost positive that's just plain old heat stroke), now this one.

R536 Brian Laundrie is not a hottie! He's only 23 but he looks 43!

[quote]Brian Laundrie is not a hottie! He's only 23 but he looks 43!

Making him the very antithesis of a Datalounger!

That’s right, ,r538- was the Piedmont Park murder ever solved?

No, R541, not even a lead, everything just went quiet and it seems like everyone's forgotten about it.

R533, Twitter sleuths have uncovered a rabbit hole of questionable financial dealings involving their RE attorney. Highlights include , a paid off corrupt judge, PO Boxes instead of actual businesses, and plenty of hints of money laundering.

Officially the Laundrie's own a juice repair business.

Tea Crime Club @TeaCrimeClub Plot FUCKING THICKENS.

TCulver @TCulver18

I just got the shivers when I saw the name Anderson. I think Brian is with Stan Anderson( Chris Laundrie business partner that lives in Mexico) Stan was mentioned in a text from Gabby’s phone. Brian sent that to Gabby’s mom but was meant for Roberta

DRUG runners! Drug runners the lot of 'em! As plain as the nose on yer face!

Nerdy Addict @Nerdy_Addict · Expect subpoenas this week.

Twitter sleuth that's made a lot of accurate predictions and has done extensive investigations into their business dealings including visiting their NY "offices" of record. (Turned out to be just a mail drop.) Wonder if he'll push LE to subpoena the Laundrie's on financials?

I hope the investigation exposes a huge ring of fraud which results in hundreds of shiesty carpetbaggers living in Florida being thrown in jail. The Laundrie's are a textbook case of New York trash bringing their bullshit fake businesses to the state while they buy up prime real estate and drain funds from already struggling local governments. Im sure their connections run deep and Im looking forward to all parties involved being exposed.

I too was surprised by the nice home Gabby and her husband live in. Either of them must have a very good job or somebody is giving them money. I mean they do really look like they belong in a trailer park.

I wonder if the FBI is looking into the financial dealings of the Laundrie family. I doubt it. Too obvious. They'd end up looking for money in the swamp.

*Cassie*

Yes!

Sorry.

[quote]Josh Benson of Florida news outlet WFLA has confirmed that Chapman sustained an ankle injury in the search.

[quote]"DOG. Just got an update from Dog the Bounty Hunter's team. They say he's headed back to Colorado soon to meet with his doctor after injuring his ankle in the search," Benson tweeted.

[quote]"He's also raising funds to continue what he calls an 'expensive search.'"

[quote]Benson confirmed that Chapman assembled a team to continue the search in his absence.

[quote]He added: "Team says he's put together a talented network of local team members he calls the 'Florida Team' that will continue the search while he's gone. He says he will continue to process leads in Colorado while he's there."

Dog was served with a $1.3 million lawsuit last week (see R449)

[quote]Does anyone know what Mommy and Daddy do for a living?

R144 has incorporation info for Chris Laundrie’s juicer sales & repair business.

R142 has a list of real estate deals. It’s unknown if these are/were flipping homes or rental properties.

R143 has their home value & interior pictures.

If Brian were the son of the Queen all searches would be called off and he would spend the rest of his princely life being a mean fuck.

Brian is leaving his parents holding the bag, because they're visible they're the focus of public anger and a target of every random wannabe "investigative journalist" on the internet. If Brian had any decency he'd turn himself in to spare them the complete ruin that's in store for them if he stays hidden, but he's incapable of that, he'll just get angry with them for running out of money to funnel to him.

If he's found a safe place to hide he may not be caught until his parents run out of money to give him. He may turn to his sister or other relatives at that point, and they've got no reason to risk everything to protect his worthless ass. They might turn him in.

Or he's already dead. Or they're willing to take the heat to protect him. It will die down soon enough. This is only the fifth reply in the last 8 hours.

The coroner is holding a press conference about Gabby's autopsy results today at 2:30 Eastern.

Cause of death was strangulation.

She wasn't pregnant.

She died an estimated 3-4 weeks before the body was found.

[quote]Teton County Coroner Dr. Brent Blue has confirmed Gabby Petito’s cause of death to be strangulation with the manner of death being ruled a homicide.

[quote]Dr. Blue stated Petito’s body “was outside for three to four weeks” before her body was found.

[quote]He did not comment on Petito’s condition at the time of discovery. While Blue did say her body was outside, he could not say if her remains were buried or exposed, explaining that the FBI would have to give the answer.

[quote]The coroner said DNA samples were taken by law enforcement. Forensic pathologists and anthropologists assisted in the examination in Teton County, Wyoming, according to Blue.

[…]

[quote]“While Brian Laundrie is currently charged with the unauthorized use of a debit card belonging to Gabby, Brian is only considered a person of interest in relation to Gabby Petito’s demise,” Laundrie attorney Steve Bertolino said to 8 On Your Side Tuesday. “At this time Brian is still missing and when he is located we will address the pending fraud charge against him.”

[quote][bold]Blue said Wyoming state law does not allow any other information regarding her body’s trauma to be released. A death certificate is not being completed at this time, according to Blue.[/bold]

[quote][bold]Ex-FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer previously told News Nation Now that authorities will typically withhold autopsy findings so they can be used to corroborate confessions in murder cases.[/bold]

[quote]“That is an ongoing investigation and those details are so crucial for the investigation,” Coffindaffer said. “Moreover, say that specific details are released —as an example, that she was strangled—and later, there are witnesses that say they thought they observed something perhaps, a strangulation. Did that come from this coroner’s report and specifics of that, or was it something they really saw? It is really important that those types of details are concealed in this type of case.”

[quote]One thing Blue did say was that Petito was not pregnant at the time of her death.

"John Walsh said that Brian Laundrie beat Gabby Petito to death" --R510

Way to go, John. Got a little carried away there.

I had figured strangulation.

There was that photo of the van with her flip flops and her phone on the ground. From where those items were, it looked like she was trying to get back into the back of the van and she was strangled from behind.

[quote]Gabby Petito official cause of death: Death by manual strangulation/throttling

Definition of manual strangulation/throttling:

[quote]Ligature strangulation (garroting) is strangulation with a cordlike object such as a telephone cord or clothing items. [bold]Manual strangulation (throttling)[/bold] is usually done with the hands; manual strangulation also may be accomplished with the forearms or by standing or kneeling on the patient's throat

[quote]The mother of Gabby Petito fired back at comments made Tuesday by the Laundrie family’s attorney concerning the death of her daughter.

[quote]Attorney Steve Bertolino issued a statement via text, calling Petito’s death a tragedy but doubled down on her fiancé, Brian Laundrie, being only a person of interest in her death.

[quote]“While Brian Laundrie is currently charged with the unauthorized use of a debit card belonging to Gabby, Brian is only considered a person of interest in relation to Gabby Petito’s demise,” Bertolino wrote. “At this time Brian is still missing and when he is located we will address the pending fraud charge against him.”

[quote]However, Petito’s mother, Nichole Schmidt, rejected his comment.

[quote]“His words are garbage. Keep talking,” she wrote in a text to WFLA’s J.B. Biunno.

[...]

[quote]According to the Petito family attorney, no other statements will be made by the victim’s family until they bring her remains home.

Interesting semi-related news, Teton County Corner Brent Blue has a history of domestic violence: he shot at his wife and missed.

In 2014 his Wyoming Concealed Firearm permit was denied “based upon previous contacts with law enforcement.”

[quote]The “previous contacts mentioned” stem from Blue’s 1999 arrest for a domestic violence situation during which Blue admitted to shooting a .32-caliber handgun at his then-wife’s car in an attempt to keep her from driving away.

[quote]The sheriff’s office report of the incident states that the couple was in the process of separating and Blue wanted to stop his wife from entering their home because he believed she was removing his possessions from the residence.

[quote]At the time, Blue allegedly stated “I can’t believe I missed,” hitting her rear tire.

[quote]An original charge of aggravated assault and battery was dismissed, but two charges — reckless endangerment and breach of peace — were not, court records show.

The worst that can happen to Brian's parents are what they deserve. They should be hounded until they give all the information they have concerning their son. Because they lawyered up immediately they are untouchable by law enforcement agencies. The only way they will be forthcoming is by citizens making their lives a living hell within the bounds of the law. Like their son they are psychopaths without a conscience. The only way they will respond is by immediate threat.

"Immediate threat" is within the bounds of the law?

As in the shrines put up to Gabby shoved in their faces.

These parents are foul.

If he’s caught, would they be arrested for obstruction?

HE'S. NOT. DEAD.

This personality type (schizo and narcissist) don't generally kill themselves. They believe they are entitled and deserve protection.

I've said before that he's too spoiled and selfish to kill himself, R587, as long as he's got some freedom and someone he can leech from.

That doesn't mean he's alive, though. If he tried to hide on a Florida swamp, it's decent odds he's gator poo now.

I don't think he tried hiding in the swamp, but I do think the FBI thought he killed himself and his body was in there.

I also don't believe the AT sighting was him, I doubt he's mentally impaired or suffering from delusions. He apparently seemed just fine when he was with his sister and her kids.

Didn't someone say the family had connections in Mexico or somewhere in Latin America? They probably now if he's caught in the US, it's curtains.

* they probably know...

Brian Entin is stalking the parents again, Chris is mowing the lawn

If he is on the lam why in the world would he have stayed in the US? He has a much better chance of hiding out and changing his identity in another country. He certainly had the time before he became notorious.

Someone with an overactive imagination came up with this

[quote]Brian Laundrie may look very different now

So now he looks like Jon Hamm?

He started taking that Propecia thing? Boy it works fast.

[quote]Sounds like Gabby went nuts and started slapping him, and he basically had to fight her off. I'm sure it wasn't the first time. She seems really unstable to me. I can totally imagine her hanging herself or otherwise committing suicide.

Fuck you, R124

blonde slut bitches are always cunts.

From those interviews with the police officers she seems like a real handful. No wonder he was always slapping her. He was trying to knock some sense into her. Not that it's ever really possible with a woman.

LOL ^^

[quote][bold]When KSL’s Chopper 5 flew over the crime scene that day, a photographer spotted the remains above ground, but covered, possibly by a blanket.

[quote]Hiking shoes were on the ground next to the body.[/bold]

[quote]While KSL has elected not to make that particular part of the video public, we did show it to someone who had worked numerous homicides.

[quote]“Oh, dozens,” said Kurt Morgan, a longtime Salt Lake County prosecutor. “Virtually ever murder that I prosecuted, I went to the crime scene.”

[quote]Morgan came away with distinct impressions from this scene.

[quote][bold]“This was quick. This was not sitting here for five or six hours, trying to figure out how to conceal a crime,” he said.

[quote]He also didn’t notice any obvious signs of a struggle on the ground.[/bold]

[quote]“One of the things I’ve been seeing in this story is a history of these individuals getting into fights and she attacked him,” said Morgan. “I don’t see that here. All I see is one individual who suffered the damage and no evidence of injury created by her.”

[quote]To clarify some confusion:

[quote]KSL was streaming live footage via heli over the search area, following the search teams, when GP was found. The original live footage briefly caught GP's body on cam but cut away when they realized that it was her. KSL now only has a post of the edited footage, with voiceover explaining that the heli crew saw GP's body and that the video was edited to not show what they saw.

[quote]Supposedly (using this word because I do not have a source other than murmurings on social media and out of respect for GP and her family, I purposefully didn't seek it out), someone out there on the internet managed to screenshot GP just before the live vid cut away. I do remember talk of it here on the sub weeks ago, that someone had linked said screenshot and that (for obvious reasons) it had been removed. Again, I cannot personally verify such a screenshot exists because I did not seek it out, out of respect for GP and her loved ones.

Time for a new thread, OP.

The thread linked below is hasn't gone off the rails the way all of the others have but we should probably start a new one with up to date information at the OP.

[quote] He also didn’t notice any obvious signs of a struggle on the ground.

But her shoes and phone were found just behind the van. Why would he think they struggled on the ground near where the body was found?

That thought never occurred to me - I figured he strangled her either just outside the van, where the phone fell, or inside the van, and as he carried her out, the shoes/phone fell out or he threw them down, or maybe while she was being strangled, the shoes came off and she dropped the phone.

Anyway, he could easily carry her to wherever it was he laid her down on the ground - and there wouldn't be any sign of struggle because she'd be dead when he did that.

You know, that creepy video where someone closes the back door of the van - and you can see her shoes on the ground (and apparently the phone was nearby)?

He probably had her inside the van - or her body. Otherwise, either she would have picked up her phone when it fell -- or he would have already put her body in that field nearby or whatever and when he came back, he would have picked up her phone for sure and probably her shoes. Leaving the phone behind would make it too easy for someone to figure out she was dead even sooner than they did.

Not the OP of this thread but went ahead and created a part 3

Thanks, R586. Unfortunately, the new thread is already a shit show so I'll pass. I think three of us were keeping this thread up to date so someone else can take the lead.

Three comments responding to R581:

[quote]I think they were possibly camping there. Once she was dead, he ran off (#1), leaving everything behind. Hoping that someone would chance upon it, and when he finally returned, he'd have an 'Oh god, I was hiking" moment.

[quote]That didn't happen. No one saw her.

[quote]So this time he decides to run off home (#2) thinking that no one even saw him there. But he knew if he took the van, he'd have to take the tent, campsite, whatever. All of it. It makes no sense for that to be there without the van. Maybe left her boots there to make it look like she hiked there, grabbed her credit cards, and took off. He probably thought the same thing would happen as before. Someone would find her, and he could go "I was never there. I dropped her off 30 miles away at such and such and drove home. She wanted to stay to meet her friend. Someone must have stolen her credit cards and dumped her there"

[quote]But then the body cam footage showed up. Which was just about the same day he fled (Sept 13th) Which he probably didn't even think was recording him. Everyone knew they were fighting. Now he'd be a major suspect. He probably got paranoid that cameras were everywhere. Were they at the restaurant? The gas station on the way home? The highway? The campsite?

[quote]So he ran off again (#3).

[quote]Then the footage of the van showed up online a few days later. And the FBI discovered he used her credit cards. His alibi is shot to shit.

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[quote]Is there a timeline of consideration that BL killed her AFTER his little hitchhiking trip? As in they went to Spread Creek, parked the van. He storms off at one point (triggering her fear of abandonment, punishing her, getting her under control) hitchhiked around and then either cools off or wants to go fight some more. (Like the Merry Piglets incident, he had to keep coming back, unable to control his temper and getting off on the agro adrenaline) She stays at Spread Creek, waiting for his return. He returns and they set up a tent like they usually did, or at least go scouting for a campsite, but he attacks her out there instead and then immediately flees in the van.

[quote]The “hitchhiking for an alibi” doesn’t quite sit right. If an alibi was your planned intent, you’d go to a popular bar/spot in town and be gregarious and noticed by lot people and get on camera. As people point out, BL doesn’t seem terribly bright, but you don’t have to be a criminal mastermind to figure that out. Versus “I’ll hitchhike in the hopes that a couple of randoms will later remember me.” I mean, he likes to read edgy murder books, so he wasn’t totally in the dark there. Plus he seems pretty reactive, not proactive (see running home to Mommy after killing her, versus just going on the lam from the scene of the crime.)

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[quote]I wonder if he killed her in the van, and then used the equipment bag from the top of the van to dump her body out there. That would explain no signs of struggle where her body was found, and partially covered by what looks like a black sleeping bag.

[quote]He just needed darkness and would have had the streams to provide noise. Where this the case, after a couple of weeks, animals would have come snooping into the contents of the bag following the scent and partially covered could be the effect.

Has Dog the Bounty Gunter found him yet?

Lol.

Maybe he should stick to searching for paper towels.

Hunter

R589, I can’t believe anyone would take a reality star seriously and think they were going to be effective. Oh wait…

He should search for some sun screen - but it's probably too late.

Multiple people created a new Part 3 when we already had a Part 3 PLUS a new thread started at the time of the coroner's press conference. They were all linked here in this thread already.

The few people who are on this thread don't even read it, do they? What a joke.

Laundrie’s sizemeat?

Found his remains. He is dead.

Yes, they compared dental records, it’s him.