Dirty Laundry — The Death of Gabby Petito and the Hunt for Brian Laundrie

Continue what?

What we know as of today:

1) Remains of Gabrielle "Gabby" Petito were found in Wyoming (near an RV camp site at the Grand Tetons Park)

2) Her fiancé, Brian Laundrie, is missing and has been designated a Person Of Interest (POI)

3) The van has been confiscated by authorities in Florida

4) The Laundrie family never commented on the search for Gabby, Brian is not willing to talk

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I'd add to point 4 - Brian has escaped with the help of his family.

Absolutely, R4.

They're looking at an arrest warrant for abetting a suspect.

Was he actually confirmed as a suspect at the time? Or only a person of interest? I'm genuinely asking because I'm wondering if there are big legal differences between aiding just a person of interest vs. a named suspect, etc. I'm purely just wondering if it would be so big as obstruction of justice charges, etc. Quite a circus.

If I understand correctly, POI precedes Suspect. It's basically detectives having a strong hunch that you committed the deed, but they don't have enough evidence / testimonials to designate you as a suspect. But: A POI can also be someone who the police believe to know more about a case. This would have been the case for Brian Laundrie, for he was arguably the last to have seen Gabby alive.

Maybe a DL'er with a better grasp of US law can explain better, but this is how I understand the different definitions.

R6 I see your point: Enabling a POI to evade the police is probably not/less of an offence than helping a Suspect flee, even if that POI got later upgraded to Suspect.

There's no such charge as aiding/abetting a suspect or POI.

It's the aiding & abetting of a CRIMINAL. So the timeline of WHEN the parents helped him doesn't matter.

Only a person of interest. The cops kept saying there was no criminal investigation, just one (and later two) missing persons investigations.

For what it's worth we also have this thread which isn't even close to 600 but has been active for a few days already.

R11 it's not as fun.

R9 you may be right about the POI part, but abetting a suspect is considered Obstruction of Justice?

Actually the parents would likely be considered an accessory.

POS parents most likely got him out of their house in the trunk of the car.

Then they came back to get it with another key.

There's a great explanation on a sub-Reddit. One commentator says he's in Cuba.

He's had so much of a head start.

[quote]Actually the parents would likely be considered an accessory.

Nonsense. In my day, we knew how to accessorize!

No search of the Carlton Reserve today, according to CNN just now.

R13 Yes, you're correct. The parents could be charged with both obstruction and accessory.

Any shirtless pictures of the boyfriend?

DL starts obsessions with killers early in the game.

R19 Look at the police body cam footage of when they pulled over Gabby and Brian. The cops ask him to lift up his shirt so they can check for marks on him. Nice lean body.

What about pics of his dirty feet?

R21 I think you need to go to the dark web for that.

I highly doubt BL would be smart enough to survive in another country, and it's not as if you can just pack up your things and live out your days. You'll never be safe, always looking over your shoulder.

R23 Yeah, I still think he's offed himself.

He’s not dead. He’s too selfish for that.

Where the van was spotted in the YT video and where the body was found, across the creek.

Can't imagine that flimsy little guy dragging her all the way to that spot on the other side of the water, but adrenaline is a funny thing…

Search for Brian ended today - Monday, 9/20.

Does LE believe he might be elsewhere?

Can't find all of the links on Reddit (and elsewhere on the internet) as my laptop is dying (ordered a new one already) but DL sleuths might want to check out Brian's Instagram pictures and posts' history.

Very dark, Reddit says "Satanic" imagery. Fav book deals with a very bleak future in the remote wilderness and burying young women. Creepy pictures with his young nephew too (internet claims of pedo behavior suspected.)

Again I'm posting from memory of a few days ago but I can't believe it's normal even for today's young adults to post such downbeat images repeatedly.

I'm sure his parents have lied about heading to the Reserve, just to buy time and throw off LE. They've lied about everything from the beginning....a wild goose chase. LE is realizing this, I think. Protecting their murderous precious baby...

...lied about *him* heading to the Reserve....^^

Does anyone have a link to his IG?

The FBI is at the Laundrie house, they put crime scene tape up about 30 minutes ago, they're still there and there's a live feed.

Google it R31..

Re my previous post,

"Brian was reading the novel "Annihilation" during that long ever-isolating trek. Do you know what that novel is about?

In addition, do a search for his "art work". "

Were I her parents, I would hire the best PI I could find/afford to track him down. They seem less encumbered with legality and all that, and his parents have afforded him a significant head start. LE should concentrate on the parents…

DUPLICATE THREAD

There are a few threads on this....take your pick.

The first thread is near 600 posts and hard to load for people. Someone started this as a second thread when we already had a second thread, that's why there are duplicates.

That said, the guy whining about the duplicate thread is almost certainly the little baby who has been complaining in all three threads for the last 20 minutes, because he's a child who wants attention.

Don't care.

Interesting that you came here to reveal that. If you really didn’t care, why not ignore it?

I think the person calling him a meth head is right. Obsessed with dark, violent imagery, hearing voices, possessive and jealous of her, no job, no future, p.o.s. parents...wow, what a winner. /s/

I agree he won't off himself, not unless it comes down to that or actually getting the cuffs put on him. He's a weak, loser pussy.

R22 there are a couple pics of his feet on his Instagram

Googling "Brian Laundrie artwork" offers multiple links with examples of his drawings and descriptions as well as Instagram links. Many involve blood and destruction/death of weaker animals, or hybrid humans and animals.

Hear hear, R38.

I checked out his instagram (it's public, search for bizarre_design) and there's nothing shocking. Some wicked drawings, like many draw at that age, trying to be edgy. The picture with his nephew was sweet and completely innocent.

People are reading way too much into this.

Well, I guess both mom and dad were escorted into an FBI van, the Daily Mail had a photo. From what I saw on the live feed there was someone in the neighbor's yard taking pics with their camera, I'm assuming that's who got this shot.

Just a friendly reminder for the Mom and Dad…. It’s trash pickup day and I don’t see the cans out on the curb.

Looks like the FBI is taking care of the trash...

Obviously Brian gives no shits about his parents either or what he's putting them through or else he'd turn himself in to spare them the negative attention. What a great guy they raised! So sweet, so considerate.

He most likely offed her, but maybe (as Dutchie speculated on the previous thread) more a case of a fight that escalated and she fell rather than him intentionally murdering her.

I thought at first that maybe she killed herself and he freaked, but the rest of his actions don't make sense.

My money's on him not being found alive.

[quote] What about pics of his dirty feet?

There are a few on his Instagram. He enjoyed hiking barefoot occasionally. Big, long feet with huge, fat toes. Really beautiful.

Wyoming Office of Tourism, advertising on this thread. Talk about exploiting a sad situation!

If it can be ascertained that he murdered her and he is found dead by suicide, can his parents be prosecuted for aiding and abetting him or obstruction of justice or something?

[quote] Very dark, Reddit says "Satanic" imagery. Fav book deals with a very bleak future in the remote wilderness and burying young women. Creepy pictures with his young nephew too (internet claims of pedo behavior suspected.)

Utterly retarded. His artwork was nothing special in terms of skill or idea, but it was not Satanic. “Pedo behavior,” don’t make me laugh. He loves Chuck Palahniuk and Fight Club. Perfectly common, basic bro. I’m not saying he didn’t kill her, but there is nothing about his Instagram that looks Satanic or pedophilic or that would be an indication he’s a murderous psychopath. Sounds like the Redditors you’re quoting have too much time on their hands and lead exceedingly sheltered, clueless lives.

R52 I hope so. They should be held accountable for at least obstructing.

[quote] If it can be ascertained that he murdered her and he is found dead by suicide, can his parents be prosecuted for aiding and abetting him or obstruction of justice or something?

Apparently all they have to do is stay utterly silent, retain their lawyer, plead the 5th, and the law cannot touch them. That’s what Brian has done.

They should at least pay for the bogus search of the Reserve.

I still think he killed the lesbians, and I do think they will prove it.

The murdered couple have to be related to this, it would be an almost impossible coincidence otherwise.

Yeah, it's so hard to believe there could be more than one homicidal male out there who hates women.

Have you not been following the case r59 or are you just hoping to get into a fight because you're bored?

"Yeah, it's so hard to believe there could be more than one homicidal male out there who hates women."

Yes, there are many, sadly. But 99.999% of them didn't have an altercation at the very coop where one of the lesbians worked, on the very day before the lesbians went missing.

It’s a strange coincidence, but what reason would he have to kill them?

They were living in a van traveling in a state park, of course they would have dirty laundry, but why highlight it?

I agree with r24.

R62, One victim might have been a witness to the Laundries' loud confrontation outside the Moonflower Food Co-op.

If someone is bringing up satanic and pedo shit, you can bet your fat ass it's 💩 hanging around. Those subjects are catnip for her.

....where she worked.

[quote]It’s a strange coincidence, but what reason would he have to kill them?

We don't know but one of the two may have been working at Moonflower that day, and if he thought someone at Moonflower called the cops on them, he could have been angry about that.

There are reports the couple was in a bar when Gabby and Brian were there, too. Completely unverified.

It's too much of a coincidence...hmmm.

It did not come up, R33, thus my question.

Artwork

Brian's IG.

Creepy fucker.

Wonder if he DID kill those lesbians too?

I googled, Brian Laundrie Instagram...it came up, but that was yesterday. It may be down now, R70.

I linked it above, R73, but thanks. I had searched for his name on IG, the account has a different name.

Hope the MF is dead.

[quote] In addition to sharing his art, Laundrie, like Petito, regularly posted updates on the couple's trip and often posted images of them both together. In a post from July last year, he shared an image of himself and Petito which was geotagged "Love Of My Life!!!!" "My biggest fear is that one day I’ll wake up and it will have all been a dream, because that is what every second has felt like since the moment we found each other," the post continued. "Till death do us part or until I wake up, I’m so happy the answer was yes, Love you hunny."

Yeah, it's a bit creepy...it looks like typical teenaged/young adult male type of art, though. They like that shit.

I don't think his IG is really dark.

Maybe they called off the search because they found him or think they found him. Or maybe the weather is supposed to be bad today.

It was an accident and he knew everyone would think he did it on purpose because of the police being called only days before so he ran. He's screwed no matter what because there is no way he can ever prove that he didn't do it on purpose. they were both violent people which is why they were probably attracted to each other.

"It’s a strange coincidence, but what reason would he have to kill them?"

First of all, there are many straight men who despise lesbians-- the real kind, not the "girl-on-girl" porn kind-- for simply existing, and rejecting their peen. Now imagine one, or both, of these lesbians confronting Brian about his mistreatment of Gabby, or even just giving her sympathy/comfort. This is a guy who didn't even want Gabby to go shopping with female friends!

I want to know how they were paying for this trip all over the country

I'm still not ready to assume he killed her. Granted, he's behaving really suspiciously, but lots of things...fear...could trigger that. I'm ok with waiting to see and hear the evidence.

[quote] Can't imagine that flimsy little guy dragging her all the way to that spot on the other side of the water,

I read somewhere that it’s a dry riverbed, so no dragging through water. The west is in a terrible drought.

[quote]This is a guy who didn't even want Gabby to go shopping with female friends!

I haven't really followed this but is this true? That's a huge red flag and the sign of an abuser.

That makes sense. I thought it was a field, but yeah...very dry out there.

[quote]It was an accident and he knew everyone would think he did it on purpose because of the police being called only days before so he ran

Thanks for weighing in, Long Island Medium.

Know this - I can solve this.

How long does a person have to be deceased before a dog would pick up the scent of a dead body, like in the van? I ask because LE are saying they found no evidence of a murder in the van, correct? (I guess they could be lying, though.)

The lesbian couple were shot multiple times while sleeping. They complained at the bar on Fri night, payday, that there was an OLDER man creeping them out who was staying nearby. Went so far as to state that they would be soon changing their campground location as they were worried about being attacked.

Neither Brian nor Gabby were at the bar that Fri night. No evidence that they were camping in the same place as the married women.

Another traveler said he reported to LE that a creeper in his 40's had been harassing his 9-year-old daughter and talking to her about trafficking (drugs, women, "illegals?") Police ignored his calls so he posted a strong warning on the internet. This is just a claim, don't know if his story of reporting to LE was ever verified.

Others on the internet have claimed it was a drug deal gone bad as pot, drug paraphernalia (to weigh the pot) and etc were found near the 2 women. Again repeating what I remember from reading on Reddit which admittedly isn't always accurate. Yes some of the posters are likely homophobic and anti-drugs.

Numerous legitimate media have repeated LE statements that the murders are not connected and are just coincidental.

[quote] Others on the internet have claimed it was a drug deal gone bad as pot, drug paraphernalia (to weigh the pot) and etc were found near the 2 women.

LOL. A murder over a pot sale. Imagine how clueless you’d have to be to think this. What is this, Mexico in the early 80s? How much pot are we talking, 300 pounds?

Gabby's BFF Rose was quoted in the Daily Fail as saying Brian was unreasonably controlling and didn't want his then fiancee going out to bars or elsewhere. At one point he temporarily took away her ID and the keys to her vehicle.

Gabby was supposed to meet up with Rose on 8/29 on her birthday in the mountains. When she didn't even contact Rose thru Social Media as was her norm Rose became alarmed. Gabby was known to be extremely reliable and predictable.

When their arguments got too bad Gabby stayed at Rose's home, a total of 10 times over the past year. Rose lived about 30 - 45 minutes away from Brian's parents.

Gabby originally met Rose on the BFF side of Bumble an internet matching site. There's also a side for those of the same sex to meet for romantic friendships. Since Gabby had recently moved to FL she hadn't yet made girlfriends.

R88, You should hear the REALLY CRAZY stories on Reddit and elsewhere on the internet re the lesbian married couple and their supposed connection to Brian and Gabby.

Apparently Fox (sorry) has the 911 call made in Moab about Brian and Gabby and the caller says Brian was hitting her, not the other way around.

R91 Well that's not surprising - sadly

The caller was mistaken. She was attacking him, and he was swatting her hand(s) away. We know this.

Is that you Dionne? Surely you’re a member of the Psychic Friends Network if you know more than an eyewitness…

R94– Bodycam police footage recorded them explaining what happened, no?

Totally understandable why Brian wouldn't want a sweet-faced girl like Gabby going to a bar or shopping without him. She might meet a guy with a job, a future, hair, who didn't hear voices, one who wouldn't go on to kill her one day.

He has really sexy feet, though.

The thing I find the hardest to believe about this case is that there are DL-ers who actually think this guy, who pretty much defines "creepy looking," is "hot."

he obviously didn't have control over her or he wouldn't have allowed her to go to Rose's house.

didn't she say on that video that her OCD made her hit him?

r84 I am from Long Island (no longer) but I am not THAT Medium

Laundrie family atty will hold PC tomorrow, 1pm.

Hoping that the FBI also got a warrant to allow electronic surveillance of the parent's home and modes of communication. They'll have to talk to each other by writing on whiteboards.

Apologies that I don't know any teenage boys or their artwork style and interests. However I'm not the one all over the internet, including MSM, calling the BF's tastes weird.

Laundrie family will hold a press conference tomorrow afternoon at 1PM in New York, apparently their family friend/lawyer is based in New York.

Brian's not a teenager, though. Comparing his art at his current age with art drawn by 15/16 year olds is just another way to excuse this loser.

R104 was not aimed at R103, it was a comment on those implying "all teen boys draw yucky stuff, har-har!"

They didn't hold a press conference when Brian went missing, did they?

"Went missing" is more accurate, of course. But they never publicly asked for him to return home.

Autopsy will be tomorrow. They’ll be able to estimate how long she’s been dead and if there’s evidence of blunt force trauma, gsw, stabbing or strangulation. Cause and manner of death will be weeks away pending toxicology results.

I haven't seen any source for the actual location of where her body was found. That map posted above is from someone said someone said someone could tell where the tent was in the drone shot and then found the location on google maps. I doubt he dragged her 900 feet across a dry riverbed. You can see in the video that there are other campers / trucks close to where they parked. Dead bodies are heavy.

POI is just someone police want to talk to because they might have information that is useful to the case. It doesn't mean they think the person is a suspect necessarily. Some cases have dozens of POIs.

That police call! Did the cops who saw them and separated them get it wrong???

R109 I think the police who pulled them over got it right, based on interviewing both Gabby and Brian for over an hour. They separately stuck to the same story - that she hit him in her attempts to get the keys to the van. He put his arms up and swatted her away to stop her movements toward him.

I heard the 911 tape, but the ultimate decision made by the police was based on speaking to the subjects.

The police also spoke to Christopher on the scene as well (the guy who called 911). The police report has been released

Ford Mustang towed away from Laundrie home by FBI, and the local weather is bad, it's raining.

The 911 caller wasn’t wrong.

"Others on the internet have claimed it was a drug deal gone bad as pot, drug paraphernalia (to weigh the pot) and etc were found near the 2 women."

Moab is close to the Colorado border, and marijuana is so legal in Colorado that there's a dispensary on every corner.

From Brian's IG:

[quote]Humans are primates, great apes in fact but I don’t know all how great we are as a species. Chimpanzees share 98.8% of there DNA with humans, our closest living relative, but as I see it every living creature is in some way our relative even trees. Only 800 million years ago animal cells started appearing on earth comprised of mainly the same parts and following the same functions as plant cells. Requiring oxygen, solar energy, minerals, nutrients and water. This tree(Juniperus osteosperma)was surviving in only inches of soil, in an area of extreme heat and drought. I think our culture, our society has put itself above all living creatures, creating needs purely to support destructive economic practices. This tree doesn’t require an Apple Watch, it doesn’t stream its favorite shows, or have a microwave oven, pay health insurance or drink grande iced caramel macchiatos. It is just a tree but you rarely see geese riding jet skis or wearing designer clothing either. I think if we all want breathable air and drinkable water we all need to learn how to live with less

This guy is your young male basic bitch 100%. This is exactly the type of faux-profound unearned cynicism that sweet, aimless, not too bright, slightly insecure and slightly lost young girls like Gabby go for. Men like that, unaccomplished and deeply insecure about their own masculinity, go for girls like that like fat kids go for candy. The only thing that makes them feel like men is pretty girls who mistake their insipid ramblings for intelligence and seriousness. These guys never respect any girl willing to fuck them, and usually resent them for their "clinginess" and easily impressed natures at the same time as they need both very badly.

It's basic misogyny. So common most of us don't even recognize it for what it is.

[quote] the ultimate decision made by the police was based on speaking to the subjects.

That and the fact that Brian had visible scratches on his face and arn while Gabby had no marks. The cop talking to Brian remarks on that right away and later took photographs before letting them go. Enough trashing the cops already.

I'm sure those cops feel terrible wondering what they could have done differently to have kept this from happening

Fuck you, r116 fucking cop apologist asshole. Go tsk tsk somewhere else.

It's telling how many people are unable to read between the lines of that bodycam video.

Regardless of who the abuser is, once the police are involved in a relationship, nothing good can come of staying together. Police shouldn’t encourage couples involved in violent altercations to reconcile and certainly not a young unmarried without children who had no strings to untie.

in theory, the cops could arrest the girl and that might have saved her, but in reality if the involved parties stopped fighting and were not belligerent after the police arrived, they would received a citation at most if there is an injury etc, an arrest is very unlikely especially if she showed remorse, so I don't know how different the outcome would be, even if they did issue a citation, she would be still in the van with him.

The could have counseled them to split up rather than offering to carry “love you” messages.

also the outrage "the police should have done more to protect her" is ridiculous, she was the aggressor in that incident, if someone needed to be "protected", it would be Brian, but a lot people on Twitter are too stupid to reason with.

I'm definitely not willing to say that we "know" she was the aggressor. We know a witness reported seeing Brian beating her, and we know she didn't tell the cops he had been violent. It's much easier to believe this was a pattern (a common one, you have to admit) of a psychologically beaten-down partner coming to the defense of their abuser.

Fuck this guy. And fuck the idiots on this thread who have some need to see him as a victim.

R123 "if someone needed to be "protected", it would be Brian, but a lot people on Twitter are too stupid to reason with."

Oh, the irony

[quote]We don't know but one of the two may have been working at Moonflower that day

She was probably too afraid to say she was being hit by him. She knows she would get it worse later. Like women trying to escape from their abuser...or getting a restraining order (a joke)...the anger of abusers is ramped up and feel like they're really losing control...and usually end up killing the victim. Well...unfortunately, she ended up dead.

[quote] Fuck you, [R116] fucking cop apologist asshole.

Awww, am I spoiling your Bad Cop!! fun, dear?

The cops had 2 people, one of whom had visible scratches and the other having no marks. It’s not rocket science why they did what they did.

Agree, R127. Restraining orders, often used as a last resort, are often gleefully violated by violent abusers.

"It's only a piece of paper!"

"I love the thought that she'll always have to worry and wonder when I'll kill her and the kids."

Etcetera.

He comes across as a wannabe eco Joe Rogan at r115 — a dumb person’s idea of what an intellectual sounds like.

“The machine elves said we’re just talking monkeys trapped on a rock flying through space, but since we share 99.999999% of our genome with bananas, we went quantum and invented fractals. Then the fractals gave mass to dark matter. Dude, if you’ve ever eaten romanesco, it’s IN you now, bro.”

His art work is highly derivative.

So, according to the mother, on 27/8, a text was sent from Gabby's phone to her about her grandfather leaving voice-mails and missed calls and asking the mother to sort him out. In the text, the grandfather was referred to as "Stan," which isn't a way Gabby talks about her grandfather.

We also know that Gabby's body was found across the river bed from where the Bethune's spotted the van on 27/8 6 PM. I can't imagine someone--even someone who wasn't bright--would drag as body in broad daylight across what looks to be an open river bed.

Does it sound feasible that it was done in the dark, the van had been there the whole day, and Gabby was killed the night of 26/8 (or that day)?

It would be interesting to see Christopher's full statement because it seems based on the linked police report that he didn't give the same versions of events as he had on the phone to 911.

R132 - we don't know where Gabby's body was found. There has been a little map with two points on it circulating but there is no source for that.

R68, See r65 and r67.

R132 I think she was killed in the back of the van on that very day, dragged across the creek at night.

Have they checked the cabins on the shore of the lake for Brian?

[quote]That and the fact that Brian had visible scratches on his face and arn while Gabby had no marks.

Brian himself said the scratches on his arm were not from Gabby.

If you're going to believe Brian's version of the story then believe it, don't just pick and choose which bits you believe just because you want this to be the murdered woman's fault.

So Kylen Schulte WAS working at Moonflower the day Brian and Gabby were seen in an altercation in front of the store, but she'd gotten off work 1 1/2 hours prior to the 911 call.

Still, Brian tells the cops he was there until 3:00PM, meaning they were in the area during her work shift.

My only real concern about whether he was the creep at the campgrounds is how he got there, since Gabby was the one who took the van. But maybe they didn't stay apart that night at all, I'm not sure we know for certain that they did separate, they may have said they would and then a few hours later met back up again.

"We are sorry Gabby is dead. But we all die sometime. Thankfully our perfect son is still on Earth. We look forward to attending the funeral and picking up the engagement ring from Gabbys family She doesn't really need it anymore".-----How the Laundrie Family really feels?

My Theory = After Brian killed Gabby he panicked and was just trying to get away from the scene. Everything. The body. The van. The place. Everything. That explains him hitchhiking. But then maybe called his parents and they told him to get home and he went back to the van and hightailed it home. I think no matter what Brians parents are going to get arrested for obstruction (at the least).

Witnesses saying that there was a"creepy, older man" around the cafe in regards to the murdered lesbians could very well have been talking about Brian. He looks older because he's bald. (I know bald guys don't want to hear that, but it's true.). And we already know that murdering, voice hearing, shitbag would creep others out, as well.

R142 I really don't think anyone would describe Brian as an "older man," despite his bald head. He doesn't look old at all.

I don’t know—Brian does look older than 22-23, but 40s? When compared to Gabrielle, he definitely looks quite a bit older than her to me. On the other hand, the murdered women could have seem him from afar, and he might have projected an older image to them. It is just an incredible bizarre coincidence that these people crossed paths that closely. It just about defies belief. And don’t forget—the murderer of the girls has not been caught.

He doesn't look like he's in his 20s, R143. Especially from a distance he wouldn't look that young. If I hadn't seen his official age listed I would have assumed he was late 30s and if he was wearing sunglasses then maybe even early 40s. Balding ages the fuck out of you (again, sorry)

The lesbians mentioned an "old, creepy guy" lurking around their camp, not at the cafe.

Older would be 50+, and while Brian could pass for someone in his early 30s, you wouldn't peg him for a guy in his 50s or older. I swear some of you want him to be the next Zodiac killer.

[quote]I swear some of you want him to be the next Zodiac killer.

A woman who worked at Moonflower and her wife were murdered the night after Brian & Gabby had the police called on them because of an altercation right outside Moonflower. They were camping, Brian & Gabby were camping too. That's odd. People are going to talk about it. If you can't handle that, then that's all on you.

Yeah, r146, it’s difficult to reconcile the “old, creepy guy” description with Brian. Maybe the woman who reported it was the younger one. Sometimes to young women, anyone over 30 is old. But again, if the deaths were some bizarre coincidence, it would be bizarre indeed. I mean, some creep killed these girls out of nowhere, for no reason, seemingly, and we have Brian in the exact vicinity, who also killed a girl. I don’t know—I would have be be dissuaded that there was no connection. It’s just too coincidental. Brian may not be the next Zodiac killer, but he might be a killer who killed these girls, and found it made it easier to kill his girlfriend.

I wish we had more info from LE as to what they have and what they think.

Is the Moonflower altercation the same one as the cop pull over altercation?

Yes, the cops were called on them while they were outside the Moonflower, then they took off and the police caught up with them down the road.

Why is everyone acting like Older Creepy Guy AND Brian Laundrie couldn't possibly exist together in the same community, and both be a threat to the lesbians? Read one of the many articles written about how common encounters with these predators are for women in the camping/hiking/climbing community. It's quite possible that the lesbians complained about someone who WASN'T Brian Laundrie-- and then were murdered by someone who WAS Brian Laundrie.

I skimmed the article above, but don’t think I saw mention of the murder and shooting of a Lesbian couple in 1988 on the Appalachian Trail. I’ve posted this before, they were hiking and camping at the midpoint of the whole trail, which is near my family’s cabin. The survivor made this amazing and heartbreaking short documentary of her returning to the spot decades later. This was the first thing I thought of with the recent couple murdered, very similar situation.

Am I missing something, because the lesbians were shot, right? Is there anything at all to indicate that Brian/Gabby had a gun? If not, where would he have gotten a gun in the middle of nothing?

R153, the supposition was that they had one already for protection.

Wouldn’t her parents know, if it were the case that they’d had a gun with them? And wouldn’t they have mentioned this in their interviews?

R155, not sure why they would mention it, unless asked.

"Is there anything at all to indicate that Brian/Gabby had a gun?"

No, there's been nothing concrete about them having a gun, but he had indulgent Florida idiots for parents, so it's possible they could have been stupid enough to give or loan him one for the trip. We don't know one way or another, because it's not like the parents are talking to the press.

As for who killed the gals in Moab, have any of the other people camping near them commented on whether Brian Laundrie was the "creepy guy" seen around the campground?

There must not have been anyone near the couple who were murdered because apparently no one heard the shots.

The Feds were asked to help on that murder, too, so if there's a link between the crimes we'll know soon enough, I'm guessing. I'm not sure Brian had a chance to get away in a vehicle by himself that night but who knows.

Was the other man who complained to LE, during the time period the lesbian pair were murdered, re an old creeper talking to his 9-year-old daughter about "inappropriate" topics ever recontacted?

He stated on social media that his calls were ignored. He then looked into other complaints re creepers in the Moab area and came across the murders of the 2 women.

The double-murder perpetrator supposedly using the gun of the victims—if they even had one—seems extremely unlikely. It would certainly have been mentioned by LEO. Something like that is no petty detail.

What homicidal psychopath is going to take the risk of attacking someone knowing they have a gun without having one of their own? The theory that he took their supposed weapon and then shot them instead of using his own is absurd. Secondly, the police have stated very clearly that they've left no stone unturned into their investigation of any possible connection with the two events. Surely with the sloppy, guilty behavior of Brian he would've left evidence behind.

People are grasping at straws in trying to unite the two unconnected events into one thing.

Laundrie family press conference cancelled, according to the lawyer, after he spoke to FBI yesterday, the family have decided not to face the press. Also according to an unconfirmed source, they (family/FBI) think Brian has killed himself, they are trying to locate his body.

Brian will never kill himself. He may get killed if he's trying to survive in the wilderness, but he'll never off himself as long as he can leech off his parents and blame them for failing to get him out of the trouble he's created for himself!

...well he can’t leech off his parents anymore. He’ll be facing prison time for murder most likely. He knows this. He absolutely would kill himself.

Oh, but he'd expect his parents to mortgage their house to pay for his lawyers in the first trial, and then sell it to pay for appeals, and to live in a tent while working full-time because it's their job to find a way to get him out of jail!

Everything about this guy screams entitled leech, he's never supported himself, he lives off his parents and his girlfriend, he slaps his girlfriend around to feel like a man and leaves his parents to face obstruction of justice charges and the scorn of the world when he gets himself in real trouble. My totally out-of-my-ass prediction is that one of his parents will commit suicide before he does,.

Bri-Bri's Mommy, maybe R164? Women abusers like Bri tend to be "close" to their mommies.

Just so we’re clear, is that pronounced “Brigh-brigh” R165?

R165, Very common in some cultures for Moms to be overly close to their sons, overly idolizing even the Incels.

Are you saying many of these grown up little boys turn out to be abusers?

[quote]Are you saying many of these grown up little boys turn out to be abusers?

In the old days, it was assumed they all grew up to be homos.

[quote]The lesbians mentioned an "old, creepy guy" lurking around their camp, not at the cafe.

Where was his age mentioned? The early reporting used only “creeper dude.” That wording came from the friend who found their bodies, Cindy Sue Hunter, and she was quoting Kylen Schulte’s father.

Before anyone else was covering the Schulte-Turner murders, she spoke to the Moab Times Independent:

[quote]While she was on the mountain, Hunter said that Sean-Paul Schulte called her to say he had just learned that the couple had talked at the bars on Saturday about a “creeper dude,” as Hunter put it, being near their campsite before they left.

Later, the Daily Beast interviewed Kayla Borza, a friend who was at the bar with them:

[quote]“We were just having a great time, having a couple drinks, and all they said was there was a creep [staying] next to them,” said Kayla Borza, who was one of the last people to see Kylen Schulte, 24, and Crystal Beck, 38, alive. “And that was it.”

[quote]Neither of them shared further details about the strange man, Borza told The Daily Beast, adding, “I don’t know why the creep wanted to kill them.”

And this is how it was described in the affidavit for a search warrant:

[quote]Investigators were informed that Kylen had mentioned to her friends that if something happened to them, that they were murdered. Kylen had continued by saying there was a “creepy man” around their camp and they had been intimidated by him. Kylen and Crystal were reported to be last seen at Woody’s Tavern. Bar security footage shows them at the bar on the night of August 13, 2021 leaving at approximately 20:30 hours.

[quote]The lesbian couple were shot multiple times while sleeping.

They had a tent nearby but they chose to sleep in a creek; each naked from the waist down and one with her bra pulled up to expose her breasts? That sounds uncomfortable.

It was a homicide, gurlz!

I went out and saw a little of the real world today, no phone, no computer, no news.

What did I miss in the last 12 hours???

Brian murdered all three. A young woman might have described him as "old." Moreover, he had to have seen her earlier, and wouldn't have known when her shift ended.

All Laundries knew was that there was a probable witness to his altercation with Gabby. He tracked her, found her together with her wife, and eliminated them both (in for a penny,.....) to secure his freedom.

He will be found dead, either by his own hand or by running out of food. It's not like he's going to go unseen from the air if he dares light a campfire.

Why would he have gone hiking in a Florida swamp? Hey mom and dad I'm taking a hike in alligator and snake infested wetlands! OK son have a good time! From the very beginning the family has been dicking law enforcement around buying their son time. Is this the famous Florida stupidity everyone talks about?

They may not be looking for Brian in the swamp, R174, but for evidence he tried to get rid of there before fleeing.

My own opinion is that he drove to the swamp area, where he was met by his parents with a clean car. They gave him the car and drove his back to their house. Fake registration, fake drivers license, etc. they had the time to plan it, he was home for close to two weeks before all this blew up. And the guy in the swamp wasn’t him.

Of course, I could be wrong.

I wish we knew when the Mustang got back to the house. We know it was there Wednesday because it was seen in a video Brian Entin did from the home that day. Laundrie allegedly took the Mustang to Carlton Reserve on Tuesday, the day before.

[quote]Cops had previously left a note on the car, which was found by his family Wednesday and had been parked near the Carlton Reserve in Sarasota County, according to the family's attorney Steven Bertolino.

[quote]The note had requested the car be removed, but the family left the vehicle there until Thursday, hoping he’d return to it, Bertolino told the New York Post.

[quote]However, video appears to show the car parked on the Laundrie’s driveway Wednesday, according to a Crimeonline report.

[quote]Footage from NewsNationNow reporter Brian Entin appeared to show the Mustang convertible back in the driveway on Wednesday night.

[quote]Laundrie is said to have gone off for a hike in the 25,000-acre nature preserve Tuesday, according to his family.

R170 Sounds like they were raped before they were killed.

The couple was found "IN" the creek or by the creek? Because if they were IN the creek half clothed and there was evidence of rapes, it sounds like the killer might have placed them IN the creek to rid the bodies of DNA evidence. Don't know...just supposing.

Seems Brian used Gabby's credit cards and now - FINALLY - there's a warrant out for his arrest.

Too bad his cold, dead hand won't be able to grab it.

My god the stupidity. There would be less risk in stealing money or food or whatever than using her credit cards!

Guess mom and dad aren't as supportive as I expected. There wouldn't be time for him to have maxed out their credit cards yet -- or maybe they let him know the cops were monitoring their cards now too, so he thought, what's the difference.

He was probably only stupid enough to use her credit cards to get home, because it's not like he would have been rolling in gas money. He'd have stopped after his parents paid for a lawyer, but not before he'd committed theft and left a partial train of evidence.

The question is... is he using his parents' credit cards NOW? They've only just issued a warrant for his arrest, did they have any right to search the parents' credit card records before this? Because if they've been stuck in Florida the whole time and the cards are being used to buy gas in Ontario...

[quote]Lol so actually he is a diagnosed narcissist he has narcissistic personality disorder. He makes AMAZING videos that bring awareness to NPD & NA while also validating the victims of NA. HIGHLY suggest you explore his stuff.

^^ That doesn’t prove anything about Brian though, does it?

NOW they put out a warrant for his arrest?!! How do they know he was the one who used the credit card? After all he drove home the van of a missing person and they wouldn't even keep surveillance on his home. For all we know at this point he could be in Asia. Despite his parents protecting him only Florida cops would be stupid enough to believe what they say.

Possibly seen in Toronto. There will be sightings all over the world. Everywhere but the Florida swamp where people for some inscrutable reason seem to like to hike.

If the gators don't get him, Swamp Thing might.

Brian is the new Madeleine McCann

Is this story “over” now that they’ve found her body? The threads on this topic have all but dried up, despite Brian still being missing and unwashed.

He washed his feet and now nobody cares.

Fox News is reporting that someone allegedly saw Brian Laundrie driving a white pickup in Tennessee on Saturday, Sounds like he was acting-out:

"Dennis Davis, the hiker who claimed he saw Brian Laundrie on Saturday morning near the Appalachian Trail, made comments to police that were consistent with what he told Fox News Digital on Saturday, according to a 911 call.

Davis, who spoke to a number of news outlets on Saturday, claims he saw Brian Laundrie driving in a white pickup truck around 12:30 a.m. ET on Saturday in Tennessee near the North Carolina border.

"He was talking wild. He said that his girlfriend loved him and he had to go out to California to see her, and he was asking me how to get to California," Davis can he heard telling a 911 operator in the audio. He added later that he was "99.99% sure that was him."

“talking wild”… Gonna need more details, preferably an impression of Le Laundrie.

Why am I picturing Brian using a globe to map out his adventures and asking where the longitudinal lines are?