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We Told You We Were Next

So many of you gays on DL pshaw'd about those of us concerned about the Texas abortion bills being OBVIOUSLY only the first step in a big plan that involved REVERSING GAINS MADE IN GAY CIVIL-RIGHTS.

We told you they'd, too, be coming for us. But, noooo. You scoffed because their immediate sites seemed to only be set on women's rights.... and you only have scorn for fish.

Here's some slightly edited parts of the article:

"The amicus brief (pdf) that Murray highlighted—co-authored by the architect of a new abortion ban in Texas-- also takes aim at Lawrence v. Texas, a 2003 case that overturned homophobic state sodomy laws, and the 2015 equal marriage case Obergefell v. Hodges, suggesting that the court should not "hesitate to write an opinion that leaves those decisions hanging by a thread. Lawrence and Obergefell, while far less hazardous to human life, are just as lawless as Roe."

"Of course" the so-called "right to life" movement is also coming after cases that established key LGBTQ+ protections, said Mystal, "because it's never about 'life' and always about 'Christian fundamentalism.'"

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by Anonymousreply 63September 19, 2021 10:17 PM

Mine Fuehrerin Mariechin!!!

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by Anonymousreply 1September 19, 2021 11:26 AM

[quote]you gays on DL pshaw'd

I’ve never been accused of pshaw'ing In fact, I don’t believe I’ve ever pshaw'd in my life.

by Anonymousreply 2September 19, 2021 11:26 AM

enough with the fear porn, MARY!

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by Anonymousreply 3September 19, 2021 11:29 AM

Just fucking move your fat ass elsewhere!!!

by Anonymousreply 4September 19, 2021 11:30 AM

I would say about 90% of DL found the abortion ban disgusting and dangerous in terms of civil rights. A few right wing loons and some naive twinks thinking it won't have any bearing on their lives as gay men were the minority. The board is comprised of older gay men and a few lesbians who knew what was up right away.

by Anonymousreply 5September 19, 2021 11:33 AM

The biggest threat to REVERSING GAINS MADE IN GAY CIVIL-RIGHTS comes from unhinged trans activists advocating childhood sex changes.

by Anonymousreply 6September 19, 2021 11:57 AM

[quote]I’ve never been accused of pshaw'ing In fact, I don’t believe I’ve ever pshaw'd in my life.

Perhaps not, R2, but ask your doctor about it at your next check up. It's perfectly normal and healthy to pshaw once in a while but incorrectly pshaw'sing can lead to toe jam, inverted nipples, and the reversal of civil rights gains.

by Anonymousreply 7September 19, 2021 12:14 PM

R6 - I am not anti-trans but you are right. We are very insular. Being in a developing country has made me agree with you and other DL-ers about the trans issue (not with the anti-trans crazy trolls though). Urged by the church and festering right-wing groups, much of Eastern and Central Europe has become even more anti-gay than ever. Why? There was zero to little knowledge about human sexuality and now the masses are being fed that "those gays want to force your kids to transition". I hear it every day as nationalist talking point and also, it's being touted as "LGBTQ propaganda" made to force people to change their sex and get the "evil vaccine". Witness Poland and Hungary...Romania is no better and neither is Bulgaria. What is scary is that a lot of southern Europe is also jumping on that wagon. American missionaries all over are fueling that flame further and, since everyone secretly admires Americans, they buy into it. This is reflected by our own "Eastern and Central Europe" at home in places like Texas and the far right groups gaining momentum.

IF gay men and lesbiand don't start to be more vocal and educate and reach out, we are screwed and so are many of others gay people all over the world.

by Anonymousreply 8September 19, 2021 12:16 PM

[quote] but incorrectly pshaw'sing can lead to toe jam, inverted nipples,

Maybe that explains it!

by Anonymousreply 9September 19, 2021 12:17 PM

Fuck off, Metthew @ r6. Go wage your anti-trans, pro-Trump jihad somewhere else. Unless you want to get red-tagged yet again.

by Anonymousreply 10September 19, 2021 4:20 PM

This should be California’s cue to remove Prop 8 from the books (it’s still technically the law). Because if the fascist SCOTUS overturns Obergefell, then same-sex marriages could be invalidated immediately.

by Anonymousreply 11September 19, 2021 4:24 PM

R11 = Unhinged.

Thank you for proving my point.

by Anonymousreply 12September 19, 2021 4:25 PM

R6 can fuck all the way off, along with every asshole that "W&W"'d that post.

Nobody who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 has any room to talk here... you're the problem. You did this. And I don't care if you think your state was reliably blue or reliably red so your vote didn't matter... that's just fucking stupid.

by Anonymousreply 13September 19, 2021 4:27 PM

Not unhinged. Prop 8 was overturned by SCOTUS, not by the people or legislature of California.

Similarly, many states still have “sodomy” bans on their books. They’re not able to enforce them, but if Lawrence is overturned, there’s nothing preventing the fascists from implementing $10,000 bounties for people to snitch on men having sex with each other.

by Anonymousreply 14September 19, 2021 4:28 PM

Thank you, r13. The anti-trans jihadists look at EVERYTHING through that lens. It’s fucking tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 15September 19, 2021 4:30 PM

Unhinged radical trans activists hate gay people.

Please start your own separate group.

by Anonymousreply 16September 19, 2021 4:31 PM

I’m gay, not trans, and certainly not an “activist.”

And I think you anti-trans jihadists are full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 17September 19, 2021 4:33 PM

But thanks for continuing to bump this thread, you loathsome trans-hating freak. People need to be aware of the danger facing ALL of us in the LGBTQ community because of the fascists you love so much (because they’re attacking trans people).

But the enemy of your enemy is not our friend. To demand the extermination of trans people is to play right into the GQP agenda which is, basically, Gilead. (See: Texas abortion law.)

by Anonymousreply 18September 19, 2021 4:37 PM

Way back when (aka back in the day) didn't they arrest us for just being gay? They didn't have to catch you with your dick up someone's ass, they arrested you for being with another man they knew was gay.

It was assumed you were engaging in sodomy if you were a gay man and therefore in violation of the law.

by Anonymousreply 19September 19, 2021 4:37 PM

Correct, r19. If men were dancing with each other in a bar, they were all subject to arrest.

And this is the world that the GQP fascists want to drag us back into. Nothing to do with trans. (I’m sure some freak will be along in a minute to shriek that anti-gay laws were somehow Christine Jorgenson’s fault.)

by Anonymousreply 20September 19, 2021 4:40 PM

r1, that thread deserves to be ignored because of the dumb typo. "Hay rights"? Come on.

by Anonymousreply 21September 19, 2021 4:41 PM

I can't take seriously anyone who throws around the word jihadist. It just makes them seem emotionally stunted.

And dare I say unhinged?

by Anonymousreply 22September 19, 2021 4:43 PM

r18 no one here is advocating for the extermination of trans people.

But I can be persuaded to change my mind if you are going to promote trans blindness to the harm RADICAL (is said radical got it?) trans activists have done to gay and women's rights. You don't win by putting your agendas before the community you rode in on or by erasing half of humanity and the indignities they have suffered.

by Anonymousreply 23September 19, 2021 4:43 PM

Is it “unhinged” to remind DLers of how life used to be for gay people?

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by Anonymousreply 24September 19, 2021 5:04 PM

These aggressive and unhinged MtF trans activists are basically straight men who hate gay men (and get their rocks off infiltrating female spaces.)

Don't equate your hateful kink with anti-gay brutality.

by Anonymousreply 25September 19, 2021 5:09 PM

R8 if there is a rise in homophobia because of increased hatred for trans people, that’s not trans peoples fault, rather it’s hate filled straights. How can you not see that. Straight people enact anti gay laws, straight people attack gay people in the street and it’s straight people that cause discrimination against all LGBTQ people in areas of housing, employment and discrimination. Jeez you people.

by Anonymousreply 26September 19, 2021 5:14 PM

Yeah R26 and the trans militants (like the ones that bullied that poor guy from the LGB group) are giving them an extra weapon to hurl at us and using our movement as a human shield. Like you said, we ALREADY have enough hate to deal with from straights...let's now be associated with trans who bully and has-been Hollywood loons who say their kid is "trans" for attention (cuz we weren't also beat on because we were confused with pedophiles by the ignorant and hateful masses).

by Anonymousreply 27September 19, 2021 5:22 PM

R27 you’re just making excuses for homophobic straights and placing the responsibility for their hate onto trans people who incidentally are also fighting the same type of discrimination and same enemy. You realize how stupid that is ya?

by Anonymousreply 28September 19, 2021 5:39 PM

"...trans people who incidentally are also fighting the same type of discrimination and same enemy."

Not by a longshot.

Don't piggyback on gay rights groups. Your issues are much different. And you really do seem to hate gay men (and straight women for that matter. Lesbians too.)

by Anonymousreply 29September 19, 2021 5:42 PM

R29 news flash gay rights are part and parcel of LGBT rights lol. I love gay men, and lesbians, and women, I just hate homophobia and transphobia (and they’re inextricably linked whether you like it or not).

by Anonymousreply 30September 19, 2021 5:45 PM

R28 - no, I am saying that said homophobic straights are being given extra material to use against us by trans bullies and attention whores tying their wagon to the latest "cause" for a few more minutes of relevancy. You understand now? Because you clearly didn't understand my point at all.

by Anonymousreply 31September 19, 2021 5:45 PM

R29, your irrational hatred of trans people makes me think you're projecting your hatred of them onto them allegedly hating gay people.

You seem to be the one with the issue.

by Anonymousreply 32September 19, 2021 5:45 PM

And nobody was talking about transphobia. Read my statement again (I am R27 not R29 (who makes a very valid argument BTW because trans and gay ARE different)). I said no issue with trans rights but don't confuse the already ignorant and hateful homophobes by now showing that we are also into changing our gender, encourage kids to do so (thanks Hollywood bimbos). No, we are a sexual orientation. They are people who have an issue with gender. Let's not mix apples and oranges because, in the end, we gays and lesbians, are gonna be the ones getting them thrown at us the most.

by Anonymousreply 33September 19, 2021 5:50 PM

Trans activists, if you want to save the lives of other trans people, you should work to transition trans people out of the sex work industry. Being a trans prostitute ups your chances of being murdered by a high margin.

You should also encourage trans people to get out of abusive relationships if they are in one. They are more likely to be murdered by an abusive partner than a random stranger.

And encourage your trans brethren to disclose their trans status to unaware straight men before having sex with them. It's the right thing to do.

Other than that, live a productive life and contribute something to society. And take a break from Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 34September 19, 2021 5:59 PM

It's about eugenics.

White supremacists are terrified of having their special status taken away from them and they think the best way to protect themselves is by ratcheting up the white birth rate. Outlawing abortion and birth control, forcing gay men and lesbians back in the closet to get them breeding, and nipping trans rights in the bud are all part of the plan. So yeah, they are kind of definitely interrelated in that way.

by Anonymousreply 35September 19, 2021 6:04 PM

Why must the trolls turn every thread on DL into a trans thread? Why must every thread about the danger of today's GOP be met with "But what about trans people? They're the REAL threat!" It's getting very tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 36September 19, 2021 6:05 PM

There are many trolls on Datalounge

This site is mostly older gay men who run the gamut from "slightly left of center" to "extremely left of center"

So when you see someone extolling Trump, defending Stop the Steal or applauding the end of abortion rights, you can be assured they are Not From Around These Parts

by Anonymousreply 37September 19, 2021 6:06 PM

Trans people can't even create their own DataLounge equivalent. They just come here to shit on everyone. What a bunch of parasites.

by Anonymousreply 38September 19, 2021 6:09 PM

Funny, because the people who are actually shitting over every single fucking thread are the anti-trans jihadis.

by Anonymousreply 39September 19, 2021 7:59 PM

The only “trans people” who actually post on DL are lame parody accounts, like that “Ayyyden Dudegash” or whatever its name was.

by Anonymousreply 40September 19, 2021 8:01 PM

End abortion. End gay "marriage". Bring back sodomy laws.

Take it, sluts.

by Anonymousreply 41September 19, 2021 8:03 PM

What this trans-radical obsession with the word jihad? It must titillate them. Like a girl's locker room.

by Anonymousreply 42September 19, 2021 8:05 PM

[QUOTE] You should also encourage trans people to get out of abusive relationships if they are in one. They are more likely to be murdered by an abusive partner than a random stranger.

spoken like a true person of privilege

by Anonymousreply 43September 19, 2021 8:12 PM

R43 - You're right. That would disrupt the trans-radical victim narrative .

Please encourage abused trans people to stay in violent relationships.

by Anonymousreply 44September 19, 2021 8:15 PM

It’s now common knowledge that Russia has an interest in influencing the American information space, interfering in our elections, and otherwise sowing chaos in our country. But how exactly do they try to accomplish this? In the second episode of Trust But Verify, we examine the Kremlin's strategy for dividing Americans through influence operations, in the hopes that we can better defend ourselves against this information barrage.

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by Anonymousreply 45September 19, 2021 8:18 PM

Why is it when Trans-radicals can't defend their poor choices they bring up Russia?

It makes them look desperate (and dishonest.) I think you secretly know the trans thing has a real dark side to it.

by Anonymousreply 46September 19, 2021 8:20 PM

I'm not deflecting, if you're talking about r45, r46.

Many posters are only here to divide and discourage, which is why it is important to understand how they accomplish their objectives.

by Anonymousreply 47September 19, 2021 8:25 PM

I don't think Russia is that invested in The Data Lounge.

by Anonymousreply 48September 19, 2021 8:26 PM

Of course you don't, r48. Unfortunately, the experts disagree with you.

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by Anonymousreply 49September 19, 2021 8:28 PM

Posting the same link twice doesn't make for a stronger argument.

And I think the Russian government chuckles at The Data Lounge.

by Anonymousreply 50September 19, 2021 8:30 PM

The goal of the anti-trans jihadists is to shut down all neutral and pro-trans discussion, so they can then point to the overwhelming number of anti-trans comments on DL as “proof” that all gay people hate trans.

It’s so transparently pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 51September 19, 2021 8:31 PM

R51 - This will surely disappoint you, but most gay people don't think of you at all. You need to do more with your life than just be a radical trans activist. Achieve something substantial. Contribute something meaningful to society.

To us, you are nothing more than an angry cartoon.

by Anonymousreply 52September 19, 2021 8:36 PM

Thank you OP. So many people on here had the "it won't happen to me" attitude.

by Anonymousreply 53September 19, 2021 8:38 PM

Reaction to trans-radical activism fueled the Texas abortion reversal.

Pressuring children to change their gender and opening up locker rooms to sexual predators set the stage for the conservative abortion voting.

So thanks, trans-radical activists. You basically shit on everything without ever taking responsibility for anything.

by Anonymousreply 54September 19, 2021 8:43 PM

why do we have two of these hysterical, divisive, black-hole of negative energy threads going on in tandem?

oh, right ....

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by Anonymousreply 55September 19, 2021 8:57 PM

How does a trans-radical activist kill time in between Data Lounge posts?

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by Anonymousreply 56September 19, 2021 9:07 PM

No one besides your sock puppets cares about your anti-trans jihad anymore, Metthew.

No one at all.

by Anonymousreply 57September 19, 2021 9:09 PM

The lonely life of a trans-radical activist. How do you spend the rest of your day after you jerk off? What's left to look forward to?

by Anonymousreply 58September 19, 2021 9:12 PM

Unhinged.

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by Anonymousreply 59September 19, 2021 9:13 PM

R59 - That's an interesting site. Thanks for sharing.

by Anonymousreply 60September 19, 2021 9:29 PM

Unhinged.

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by Anonymousreply 61September 19, 2021 9:30 PM

R44 women are more likely to be killed by their partner than a stranger too. Should every heterosexual relationship also be dissolved based on this?

by Anonymousreply 62September 19, 2021 9:31 PM

Anyone in an abusive relationship should get the hell out asap.

by Anonymousreply 63September 19, 2021 10:17 PM
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