Ivermectin has been falsely touted by some anti-vaxxers as an alternative to getting vaccinated.
Joe Rogan Says He Tested Positive for COVID-19, Takes Unproven Horse Dewormer
|by Anonymous||reply 303||September 17, 2021 3:19 AM|
Oh please please let him have dire consequences.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||September 1, 2021 9:26 PM|
Can I have his stuff?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||September 1, 2021 9:27 PM|
Watch - this piece of shit will just happen to get better, by pure luck, then he (and similar idiot trash) will celebrate - SEE, WE TOLD YOU WE DON'T NEED YOUR VACCINES.
I hope he craps out his intestines.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||September 1, 2021 9:28 PM|
Why does he trust the test but not the vaccine?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||September 1, 2021 9:28 PM|
There have been clinical trials and the horse dewormer doesn’t help. (SJP was in the trial before they crossed over to humans.)
It’s amazing how these idiots double down on this nonsense.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||September 1, 2021 9:29 PM|
This smells of a PR stunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||September 1, 2021 9:30 PM|
[quote] "Can I have his stuff?"
Sure, R2. But I'm taking his Spotify money (including residuals, if any).
|by Anonymous||reply 7||September 1, 2021 9:32 PM|
[quote]Why does he trust the test but not the vaccine?
Why does he trust the de-wormer but not the vaccine?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||September 1, 2021 9:32 PM|
He's also taking antibiotics - cos you know, those work against viruses. 🙄
|by Anonymous||reply 9||September 1, 2021 9:33 PM|
He’s just trying to score more points with his followers.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||September 1, 2021 9:38 PM|
I'm with R1. Bye Bye Joe Rogan.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||September 1, 2021 9:39 PM|
What are these radio hosts all doing, dipping their mics in public toilets
|by Anonymous||reply 12||September 1, 2021 9:40 PM|
Did Ivermectin sponsor Joe Rogan's podcast?
Was Joe paid to take it?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||September 1, 2021 9:41 PM|
I've never watched Joe Rogan, but I thought he was at least pretending to be a non-partisan "libertarian." This ivermectin business clearly makes him sound like a full-blown MAGAt.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||September 1, 2021 9:44 PM|
Fucking hell. Joe Rogan has a huge fanbase (why I'll never understand), him trying to promote this damn horse worm drug is terrible.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||September 1, 2021 9:48 PM|
I'm sure he's doing it as a publicity stunt, IF he's actually taking it.
I suppose if you had untreated roundworm and started taking it for your Covid infection it would make you feel better.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||September 1, 2021 9:49 PM|
My Trumper relatives sent me his three hour video shilling Ivermectin wherein Rogan ignores the fact that the so-called study he and his guests cite has been withdrawn for being scientifically unsupported. . He's been promoting Ivermectin for quite a while. I'm not posting the link because I don't want to encourage its use. People are getting very sick from using this stuff. Rogan needs to be held accountable.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||September 1, 2021 9:55 PM|
I hope he was hanging out with Boris and they are sharing the horse medicine.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||September 1, 2021 9:56 PM|
[quote]I've never watched Joe Rogan, but I thought he was at least pretending to be a non-partisan "libertarian."
Yes, that was the pretense.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||September 1, 2021 9:56 PM|
Wonder if he's telling the truth. I don't put it past these nutjobs to say they got it and was cured by dewormer for some sick reason. If he has it, dies of it...oh, well. Should have been vaccinated. I won't mourn him.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||September 1, 2021 9:58 PM|
There are few people I wish were dead.
He really is one of them.
And I'm not apologetic about it. The harm he does far outweighs the negative karma of wishing someone would die.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||September 1, 2021 10:00 PM|
Rogan has been vaccinated.
Lex Fridman interviews Columbia virologist, immunologist, and microbiologist Vincent Racaniello; at 2:29:47, they discuss Ivermectin.
Racaniello: So, full disclosure, my wife worked on ivermectin at Merck for 20 years, ok? So, I just want people to know, but, I didn't, I don't talk to her all the time about it, but anyway, she's been at Merck for a long time. As you know, ivermectin is a very safe drug used to treat certain parasitic infections...
Racaniello: ...right, and it is approved, it's amazing, you can take one dose a year and be protected against river blindness in Africa, in certain parts of Africa, it's remarkably effective. And, so, um, it's quite a safe drug at the doses that are approved. Now, early last year, a study was done, I believe in Australia, which showed that in cells in the lab, if you infect with SARS-CoV-2 and then put in ivermectin, it would inhibit the virus production substantially, it was quite clear, right? But the concentration they were using were rather high and could not be achieved by the approved dosing, so you would need to do a dosing study to make sure it's safe; the reason is that ivermectin binds to receptors in your brain and it can have...high doses, some people take high doses inappropriately and they have neurological consequences. So, if you needed 10 times more ivermectin, you'd have to make sure it would be safe....
Fridman: So it's a question of safety, too.
Racaniello: Right. So, I think, it has always been the case that it should've been properly studied, but it wasn't. There were lots of trials here and there, lots of improperly controlled trials where someone would just treat some patients and say, hey, they all did fine, but have no control arm, and there were some control trials, but they were very small. So, right now, a 4,000 person trial is enrolling to test in a randomly controlled trial setting whether it works or not, there's still plenty of cases that you can do, so you can ask whether there are any side effects. I think that's completely fine and if it says it works, then we should use it. In the meantime, I always tell people, if you want to use ivermectin, you can do it off-label, it's FDA approved, and if your physician says I'm gonna give you this off-label, I don't have any objection, but, I don't know if it's gonna work. A friend of ours, last week in New Jersey, got Covid, he went to his local hospital, and their regimen was remdesivir, dexamethasone, ivermectin. It was written...that's what they do for every Covid patient, they just give it to them automatically. And, um...he recovered, who's to say it was or was not ivermectin? I don't have any strong ideological opposition, I just think it should be tested for what you want to use it for.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||September 1, 2021 10:00 PM|
[quote]Why does he trust the test but not the vaccine?
This is a pretty succinct answer:
|by Anonymous||reply 23||September 1, 2021 10:05 PM|
so he'll probably be ok in a week and his fans will think it's because of the house paste. i hate this
|by Anonymous||reply 24||September 1, 2021 10:09 PM|
He's on PrEP. How many gays on it that you personally know have gotten serious Covid?
Think about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||September 1, 2021 10:09 PM|
Rogan was busted telling people falsely that the COVID vaccines are "gene therapy" altering and manipulating people's DNA.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||September 1, 2021 10:11 PM|
Rogan ends his video to fans by sending "much love to modern medicine" for his recovery. That won't go over well with the "Big Pharma wants to kill us!" trolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||September 1, 2021 10:20 PM|
How do we even know he's taking the shit?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||September 1, 2021 10:21 PM|
Just heard this on my local news broadcast. They said he's also taking the monoclonal antibodies. If he gets better, THAT'S what did it, not the horse dewormer.
Yes, I'm looking for that in a written source ...
|by Anonymous||reply 29||September 1, 2021 10:22 PM|
According to him, he's taking (or he took) monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, Z-pak, prednisone, an NAD drip and a vitamin drip.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||September 1, 2021 10:25 PM|
That's the question, R28. These right-wing loons (and yes, he is a right-wing loon in my opinion) are such shady bitches that you can never know when they're being authentic and when they're lying their asses off, even where it comes to their own health. They'll proclaim distrust of the vaccines (even though they secretly took it) while propping up nonsense like horse dewormer (and claiming they took it when they didn't). You just never know.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||September 1, 2021 10:26 PM|
All that, even when he's vaccinated? He must have had quite the breakthrough case.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||September 1, 2021 10:27 PM|
buh bye now
|by Anonymous||reply 33||September 1, 2021 10:27 PM|
Well heck, he admits to it in his Instagram post. Here's the NBC story, and a link to his Instagram is within.
Of course, everybody's focused on the horse stuff. They should focus on the monoclonal antibodies.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||September 1, 2021 10:27 PM|
I’m on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||September 1, 2021 10:28 PM|
DUHHHHH IM JOE ROGAN DUHHHHH 🥴
|by Anonymous||reply 36||September 1, 2021 10:29 PM|
Has he ever said that he was vaccinated? Or does everyone just assume that he is? I don't listen to him but I thought he was antivax like all the other conservative radio hosts.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||September 1, 2021 10:39 PM|
There is a lot of controversy about the effectiveness of Ivermectin - the Benha University study swore by it as the most effective treatment, but they've had to retract and unpublish the study after being raked through the coals. The truth is that the findings are incidental at best, and other studies are required.
On the other hand, pharmaceutical companies stand to make spectacular profits from the yearly vaccines, whereas Ivermectin is a cheap medication that can be produced by most manufacturers, which would limit the power of Pfizer, Moderna, Astra-Zeneca and the likes, as well as their dominance over the market with COVID.
I think that Joe Rogan has been extremely reckless (if not stupid) by using himself as a Guinea pig, but I do agree that it wouldn't be the first time that big pharma tries to destroy a threat to their future profits by misusing science to their own nefarious advantage.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||September 1, 2021 10:45 PM|
Thoughts and prayers, and I am not praying for a recovery.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||September 1, 2021 10:46 PM|
Isn't Rogan just the type to "claim" he tested positive, "claim" he took Ivermectin and then "claim" it cured him? Then start selling it on his show?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||September 1, 2021 10:52 PM|
Yes R40. All these magacunts lie. MTG has been vaccinated but won't admit it.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||September 1, 2021 10:55 PM|
I'm embarrassed to say that early in the pandemic, when we didn't have the vaccines and the research was more about what [italic]might[/italic] work vs. what definitely doesn't, I ordered hydroxychloroquine from an online pharmacy and horse paste from Amazon (along with Chinese herbal medicines) as preventatives after reading about them on the COVID subreddit. Luckily, I didn't make myself sick.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||September 1, 2021 11:11 PM|
The only thing that would keep these idiots from taking horse dewormer is for Biden to order them to.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||September 1, 2021 11:20 PM|
It's basically greed that's driving the COVID disinformation. High-profile right-wing grifters are making a lot of money off the lies. When they're called on it by the media or activists, they double down, which is further proof of their authenticity to the base ("base" as in Al Qaeda.)
|by Anonymous||reply 44||September 1, 2021 11:21 PM|
Please please please let this result in painful diarrhea, bleeding hemorrhoids, and may he need hospitalization for covid so the public sees he's a jackass.
Oh, he's going to be shedding those mucous intestinal lining "worms!"
|by Anonymous||reply 45||September 1, 2021 11:41 PM|
He's not going to get sick and die because he's been vaccinated. He's playing to the rubes. He's not stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||September 1, 2021 11:47 PM|
Call me when he's on a ventilator, I'll come over and pull the plug.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||September 1, 2021 11:48 PM|
He could still develop liver damage from a high dosages of Ivermectin.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||September 1, 2021 11:51 PM|
What a fucking idiot!
|by Anonymous||reply 49||September 1, 2021 11:51 PM|
Stupid people dying makes the human race better
|by Anonymous||reply 50||September 1, 2021 11:54 PM|
People like this are the reason people die. You know he either got the vaccine and decided to say he didn't or he got remsevair like rich people can get and will lie and say it was the horse medicine.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||September 1, 2021 11:58 PM|
Retardation: A Celebration
|by Anonymous||reply 52||September 2, 2021 12:00 AM|
Tonight's episode of Fear Factor is really dark
|by Anonymous||reply 53||September 2, 2021 12:01 AM|
He’s lying ! And watch him say he was cured
|by Anonymous||reply 54||September 2, 2021 12:01 AM|
I hope he suffers mightily.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||September 2, 2021 12:06 AM|
"Takes Unproven Horse Dewormer"
Being that he's a big jackass, this makes sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||September 2, 2021 12:10 AM|
[quote]And watch him say he was cured
He says he had one bad day, started taking all the Big Pharma (and Big Vet Pharma) meds, and has felt completely fine since.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||September 2, 2021 12:28 AM|
Not being flippant, but just realistic: the only way he can come out of this gracefully is if he dies. This would actually be a blessing to his followers.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||September 2, 2021 12:28 AM|
He’s knows there is huge money (grift) playing the right wing insane machine so he’s playing the game. He probably doesn’t have COVID-19, and if he does (he doesn’t), he did not take horse deworming meds.
I bet very few of these “right wingers” are even conservatives. They’re making money hand over fist to see who is the craziest and they’re happy to keep one upping each other. Win win.
Joe is an attention whore grifter.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||September 2, 2021 12:39 AM|
If he's been vaccinated and on monoclonal antibodies, he'll recover. It has nothing to do with the ivermectin he's been using. Shotgun therapy like he's on is usually more dangerous than not.
If he damages/ destroys his liver, had neuro side effects-thank you, ivermectin!
|by Anonymous||reply 60||September 2, 2021 12:40 AM|
Gets Covid + uses Ivermectin to treat it = a true American folk hero.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||September 2, 2021 12:47 AM|
I just read an article today with Russ Wallace, the father of Caleb Wallace--the anti-masker/COVID denier who recently died. The dad said he and his son initially felt better after a few days, but then they both ended up having to go to the hospital. The dad was in there a few weeks and the son stayed over a month before dying.
Joe isn't the epitome of good health, and overdosing on vitamins won't have any impact on your health.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||September 2, 2021 12:53 AM|
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||September 2, 2021 12:55 AM|
[quote] I bet very few of these “right wingers” are even conservatives. They’re making money hand over fist to see who is the craziest and they’re happy to keep one upping each other. Win win.
It's going to be tough to one up Phil Valentine and Marc Bernier...they already died to own the libs
|by Anonymous||reply 64||September 2, 2021 12:56 AM|
Ivermectin treatment was associated with lower mortality during treatment of COVID-19, especially in patients with severe pulmonary involvement. Randomized controlled trials are needed to confirm these findings.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||September 2, 2021 12:57 AM|
I don't get it, I don't get it, I don't get it. Why do these fucking whackos jump through all kinds of hoops promoting treatments that MIGHT work despite having overall harmful effects on your body, rather than wear a mask or get a vaccine?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||September 2, 2021 1:02 AM|
Joe, you’re a pussy…just man-up.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||September 2, 2021 1:02 AM|
Sorry girls, but natural herd immunity beats the vaccine's fake 'herd' immunity.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||September 2, 2021 1:07 AM|
Well at least he won’t be scooting his ass across the living room carpet in front of guests anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||September 2, 2021 1:08 AM|
Meanwhile, vaccines are losing their effectiveness day by day...
|by Anonymous||reply 70||September 2, 2021 1:12 AM|
[quote]Sorry girls, but natural herd immunity beats the vaccine's fake 'herd' immunity.
Sorry, girl, but the author of your linked op-ed has already proven himself an idiot:
|by Anonymous||reply 71||September 2, 2021 1:12 AM|
Hurry up and die, Joe
|by Anonymous||reply 72||September 2, 2021 1:13 AM|
What happened to his "strong immune system" that would fight off COVID?
|by Anonymous||reply 73||September 2, 2021 1:14 AM|
R71 bless Betty
|by Anonymous||reply 74||September 2, 2021 1:14 AM|
All anti-VAXXERS should take ivermectin.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||September 2, 2021 1:15 AM|
[quote]Meanwhile, vaccines are losing their effectiveness day by day...
Your sources aren’t getting any better. Now it’s the guy who falsely claims to have invented mRNA vaccines.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||September 2, 2021 1:17 AM|
He co-invented them. And by the way, he got vaccinated. So he's not an anti-vaxxer, just has concerns about these rushed out, untested vaccines.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||September 2, 2021 1:18 AM|
Thanks for telling is you're a dumb cunt R77
|by Anonymous||reply 78||September 2, 2021 1:18 AM|
[quote]He’s knows there is huge money (grift) playing the right wing insane machine so he’s playing the game. He probably doesn’t have COVID-19, and if he does (he doesn’t), he did not take horse deworming meds.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
If he really has it, he's probably already vaccinated. He's just saying this stuff to play into his audience.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||September 2, 2021 1:20 AM|
R71, Maybe you should actually read the study the author linked to in his article.
Quoting for those to freakin' lazy:
"Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. "
|by Anonymous||reply 80||September 2, 2021 1:21 AM|
I thought I'd blocked the idiot spreading vaccine-skeptical spam, but I'm still seeing his crap posts—are there two of them?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||September 2, 2021 1:22 AM|
[quote]He co-invented them
|by Anonymous||reply 82||September 2, 2021 1:23 AM|
It keeps switching accounts, R81.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||September 2, 2021 1:23 AM|
According to the NYT, he's also taking the antibody cocktail, "vitamin infusions," and prednisone.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||September 2, 2021 1:25 AM|
R80, you're a jackass. While it's true getting COVID-19 would provide greater protection due to higher levels of antibodies, the disease can do long-lasting and permanent damage to your body. Why go through weeks or months of pain and discomfort when you can take preventive measures?
Damn. Do you think people should get 3rd degree burns so it destroys their nerve endings in case they're in another fire?
|by Anonymous||reply 85||September 2, 2021 1:26 AM|
[quote]Maybe you should actually read the study the author linked to in his article.
I read it yesterday, thanks, along with a bunch of criticisms and cautions from epidemiologists. It’s one study that hasn’t been peer reviewed. It’s way too early to use it as the basis for your claim.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||September 2, 2021 1:28 AM|
The lazy, Russia peddled anti-vax shit is weak.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||September 2, 2021 1:28 AM|
[quote]Fucking hell. Joe Rogan has a huge fanbase (why I'll never understand), him trying to promote this damn horse worm drug is terrible.
At least there is an effort to stop some of the misinformation.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||September 2, 2021 2:35 AM|
From Kulldorff's Wikipedia page:
[quote] Kulldorff is one of the three authors, along with Sunetra Gupta and Jay Bhattacharya, of the early October 2020 Great Barrington Declaration, which argues for letting COVID-19 spread in lower-risk groups to promote herd immunity while advocating "focused protection" of older, high-risk people. The declaration was sponsored by the American Institute for Economic Research (AIER), a libertarian free market think tank. The World Health Organization (WHO) and numerous academic and public-health bodies said the declaration's strategy was dangerous and lacked a sound scientific basis. They warned that the declaration's strategy could cause many unnecessary deaths, that it would be challenging to shield medically vulnerable people, that the long-term effects of COVID-19 were not yet understood, that herd immunity could be undermined by the limited duration of post-infection immunity, and that it was most likely to cause recurrent epidemics.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||September 2, 2021 2:53 AM|
R88 He tapped into the same shit trump did. Why him of all people but he is super swarmy and really goes for that, “I’m not no any side but let me constantly make the right look good” schtick. A large portion of the population eats that shit up.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||September 2, 2021 2:54 AM|
Kulldorff, apparently, keeps interesting company:
|by Anonymous||reply 91||September 2, 2021 2:57 AM|
He must be unvaxed. Everyone who gets it and is vaccinated makes a point of saying that they are double vaxed.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||September 2, 2021 3:21 AM|
Delta - you're on a hot streak - don't leave Joe behind.
Do your thing Delta! Go Delta, Go Delta, Go Delta - get busy, get busy, get busy!
|by Anonymous||reply 93||September 2, 2021 3:23 AM|
[quote]He's not going to get sick and die because he's been vaccinated.
Well I guess we'll all find out soon enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||September 2, 2021 3:24 AM|
So this “virologist” at R22 makes this claim:
[quote] he went to his local hospital, and their regimen was remdesivir, dexamethasone, ivermectin. It was written...that's what they do for every Covid patient,
Is that true? A hospital giving ivermectin to “every Covid patient”?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||September 2, 2021 3:38 AM|
^^This alleged hospital is in New Jersey btw.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||September 2, 2021 3:40 AM|
He was a horse's ass to begin with, so this is working out well for him
|by Anonymous||reply 97||September 2, 2021 3:48 AM|
It’s been used for over 40 years in the treatment of a wide variety of parasitic diseases, and is known to be very safe. It is a substance that was originally found as a *single* particle in a *single* soil sample in Japan, and has never been found occurring naturally anywhere else in the world.
[quote] Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug that has also been shown to be effective in vitro against a broad range of viruses including HIV, Dengue, Influenza and Zika virus.
Dr Wagstaff cautioned that the tests conducted in the study were in vitro and that trials needed to be carried out in people.
“Ivermectin is very widely used and seen as a safe drug. We need to figure out now whether the dosage you can use it at in humans will be effective – that’s the next step,” Dr Wagstaff said.
“In times when we’re having a global pandemic and there isn’t an approved treatment, if we had a compound that was already available around the world then that might help people sooner. Realistically it’s going to be a while before a vaccine is broadly available.
Although the mechanism by which Ivermectin works on the virus is not known, it is likely, based on its action in other viruses, that it works to stop the virus ‘dampening down’ the host cells’ ability to clear it, Dr Wagstaff said.
Royal Melbourne Hospital’s Dr Leon Caly, a Senior Medical Scientist at the Victorian Infectious Diseases Reference Laboratory (VIDRL) at the Doherty Institute where the experiments with live coronavirus were conducted, is the study’s first author.
“As the virologist who was part of the team who were first to isolate and share SARS-COV2 outside of China in January 2020, I am excited about the prospect of Ivermectin being used as a potential drug against COVID-19,” Dr Caly said.
Dr Wagstaff made a previous breakthrough finding on Ivermectin in 2012 when she identified the drug and its antiviral activity with Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute’s Professor David Jans, also an author on this paper. Professor Jans and his team have been researching Ivermectin for more than 10 years with different viruses.
Dr Wagstaff and Professor Jans started investigating whether it worked on the SARS-CoV-2 virus as soon as the pandemic was known to have started.
The use of Ivermectin to combat COVID-19 would depend on the results of further pre-clinical testing and ultimately clinical trials, with funding urgently required to keep progressing the work, Dr Wagstaff said.
Read the full paper in Antiviral Research titled: The FDA-approved Drug Ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||September 2, 2021 4:00 AM|
I am completely fine with his fan base taking loads of the horse-paste version of Ivermectin. Send them all free tubes of it, I say.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||September 2, 2021 4:06 AM|
Will he be taking Trump Bleach Cure next? Fucking Idiot....I am rooting for Covid!!
|by Anonymous||reply 100||September 2, 2021 4:21 AM|
I wish I had been that cleaver!
|by Anonymous||reply 101||September 2, 2021 4:35 AM|
The Truth I Bring by DJT
|by Anonymous||reply 102||September 2, 2021 4:39 AM|
He’s so ugly. His head looks like a basketball.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||September 2, 2021 4:41 AM|
Joe has turned into a right-wing disinformation asshole for ratings. Please let him get it and die. And no, I don't feel bad saying that.
He's a loud-mouthed short Italian goomba who was never able to make it big in acting or comedy. It really is only about the money.
Money fucks over many people's sense of morals.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||September 2, 2021 4:42 AM|
It's not fair that this piece of shit didn't really get ill to the point of no return. Someone that is so high profile with so much influence has been reckless and criminal with his bullshit about covid to serve his career. Fuck him.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||September 2, 2021 4:44 AM|
[quote]It's not fair that this piece of shit didn't really get ill to the point of no return.
Patience, grasshopper. They all talk like this until their lungs crash. Give it a few more days.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||September 2, 2021 4:46 AM|
How'd he get so popular? I missed a step. He was the host of Fear Factor and then suddenly he is the most listened to podcaster? How did that happen?
|by Anonymous||reply 107||September 2, 2021 4:46 AM|
I wonder what yellow skin troll makes of Joe's braunschweiger complexion
|by Anonymous||reply 108||September 2, 2021 4:50 AM|
Joe Rogan is the best dumb guy King we've ever had.
He appeals to confused young heterosexual men who don't quite understand masculinity or intellectualism. Folks not quite retarded enough to believe in Alex Jones, but aren't smart enough to read The Atlantic.
He can be a decent interviewer sometimes and has had some interesting guests, but his whole persona/identity is ridiculous, created to appeal to a very specific demographic.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||September 2, 2021 4:52 AM|
He's part of the Intellectual Dark Web! You people are just too ignorant and biased to understand what he's saying!
|by Anonymous||reply 110||September 2, 2021 8:39 AM|
Die! Die! My Douchebag!
|by Anonymous||reply 111||September 2, 2021 8:40 AM|
[quote]Dr Wagstaff cautioned that the tests conducted in the study were in vitro and that trials needed to be carried out in people.
[quote]“Ivermectin is very widely used and seen as a safe drug. We need to figure out now whether the dosage you can use it at in humans will be effective – that’s the next step,” Dr Wagstaff said.
A SHITLOAD OF THINGS cure a shitload of things in vitro — meaning, in test tubes — and have little to absolutely no effect, or even the opposite effect, in the human body.
Test tube studies mostly do not hold up in actual humans.
Animal studies mostly do not hold up in actual humans.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||September 2, 2021 8:45 AM|
Boycott Spotify for giving this piece of shit a platform.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||September 2, 2021 9:58 AM|
I know someone who took Ivermectin and it knocked out his Covid-19 in 3 days.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||September 2, 2021 10:33 AM|
Because he died, R114.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||September 2, 2021 10:37 AM|
R114 No, he's alive. He had to do it because he's from overseas and was visiting the US when he got stuck in the lockdowns. He doesn't have medical insurance in the US/travel insurance.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||September 2, 2021 10:46 AM|
Sorry. I meant to reply to R115
|by Anonymous||reply 117||September 2, 2021 10:47 AM|
Covid is killing all the wrong people.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||September 2, 2021 10:53 AM|
[quote]I know someone who took Ivermectin and it knocked out his Covid-19 in 3 days.
You don't know if the ivermectin did it, it could have just been coincidence. Most people who get symptomatic covid clear the virus themselves.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||September 2, 2021 11:12 AM|
Why would people take prednisone against a viral infection?
That shit stops your immune system.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||September 2, 2021 11:31 AM|
Joe Rogan and Andy Cohen are why I don't believe in Karma.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||September 2, 2021 11:33 AM|
r120 I think Prednisone stops the Cytokine storm, which is an out of control immune system and resulting fever and inflammation - it stops the inflammation.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||September 2, 2021 11:36 AM|
[quote]Why would people take prednisone against a viral infection?
There have been some indications that corticosteroids like prednisone can help if the patient is experiencing a cytokine storm, which is basically a massive immune system overreaction. But taking it in the absence of systemic inflammation certainly seems like it would hamper the immune system's ability to fight the virus. Unless Joe was much sicker than he's letting on, it doesn't make sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||September 2, 2021 11:37 AM|
Was it the ivermectin on huffing Rhonda Rousey’s farts that cleared his covid?
|by Anonymous||reply 124||September 2, 2021 11:38 AM|
INSANITY = I won't take the VACCINE. But I will take Horse Medicine......WTF with these stupid people.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||September 2, 2021 11:56 AM|
In the OP photo, Rogan looks like a cock head someone has painted a face on.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||September 2, 2021 12:32 PM|
[quote] Why would people take prednisone against a viral infection?
Probably for inflammation in his lungs
|by Anonymous||reply 127||September 2, 2021 1:00 PM|
900 degree molten lava kills COVID-19 in vitro. Doesn't make it an effective cure in humans.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||September 2, 2021 1:58 PM|
R114 - and why should we believe you?
|by Anonymous||reply 129||September 2, 2021 2:55 PM|
[quote]I think Prednisone stops the Cytokine storm, which is an out of control immune system and resulting fever and inflammation - it stops the inflammation.
Yeah, that's why they put the Orange Turd on dexamethasone.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||September 2, 2021 2:59 PM|
Ivermectin has shown some efficacy against Covid replication in early stages in some testing, but the required dosages to be both safe and[bold] effective [/bold] are not yet known. What is definitely known is the veterinary formulations of Ivermectin idiots have been using on themselves are not safe
|by Anonymous||reply 131||September 2, 2021 3:01 PM|
Do we know if he was vaxxed or not? I can't seem to find any info on that.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||September 2, 2021 3:04 PM|
OMG! The side effects of COVID make you bald, ugly, and stupid!
|by Anonymous||reply 133||September 2, 2021 3:04 PM|
[quote]Do we know if he was vaxxed or not? I can't seem to find any info on that.
Like Candace Owens he says no. Like Candace Owens it's nearly impossible to determine the truth in anything they say.
COVID-19 knows, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||September 2, 2021 3:07 PM|
Is he dead yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 135||September 2, 2021 3:28 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 136||September 2, 2021 3:31 PM|
[quote] OMG! The side effects of COVID make you bald, ugly, and stupid!
Now you see why we’re so frightened of it. That’s a fate worse than death.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||September 2, 2021 3:34 PM|
Can he just die already?
|by Anonymous||reply 138||September 2, 2021 3:39 PM|
These "shock jock" stunts are getting edgier and edgier. Next will be an on-air suicide I guess.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||September 2, 2021 3:47 PM|
Surprising he hasn’t succumbed to the HGH yet. Gasheaded dope was juicing for years.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||September 2, 2021 3:53 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 141||September 2, 2021 3:55 PM|
R82 ah, yes, fraudulent straight man taking credit for a woman’s work, and everyone buying into it. Of fucking course.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||September 2, 2021 3:59 PM|
It will be interesting to see what all of his past steroid will do. These musclebound "healthiest person you know" that have been getting so, so sick or dying had me wondering if they were on roids and if that had an affect on their outcomes. It would be great if he got all sick, lost all of his muscle tone, his breath and voice and got even brain foggier. His misinformation has harmed millions. I feel the same way about Candace Owens
|by Anonymous||reply 143||September 2, 2021 4:10 PM|
Can someone clarify? I keep reading that people are taking "horse dewormer" and "veterinary medicine" ivermectin. I just looked ivermectin up on Wikipedia and it says,
[quote]Ivermectin is a medication that is used to treat parasite infestations. In humans, this includes head lice, scabies, river blindness (onchocerciasis), strongyloidiasis, trichuriasis, ascariasis, and lymphatic filariasis. In veterinary medicine, it is used to prevent and treat heartworm and acariasis, among other indications. It can be taken by mouth or applied to the skin for external infestations...
[quote]Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and came into medical use in 1981. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. Ivermectin is FDA-approved as an antiparasitic agent. In 2018, it was the 420th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than one hundred thousand prescriptions.
Why would someone like Rogan and all the other prominent ivermectin-promoters take the veterinary, not the human, form of the medicine? Is there supposedly some benefit to taking the horse dewormer vs. the approved/commonly used human form of the drug?
|by Anonymous||reply 144||September 2, 2021 4:12 PM|
Joe is a game-show host who got extremely fucking lucky with a transparent personality/lifestyle scam, like any other ‘influencer’. People will literally die for him. Doesn’t matter to drooling listeners that Rogan is more wealthy, famous, and better protected than they’ll ever be, or that he’s a grown man who has a beautiful family he could and ought to be raising but still spends most of his time behaving like a broke incel paranoid teen living in mom's basement.
If you're an undereducated unsupported and scared young guy, trying to exist in this scary new paradigm, who spent formative years playing video games in a basement or jerking off to Pornhub, you too would find yourself disaffected by the world in which smart non-Americans with Ivy League degrees land coveted tech jobs, while guys with money and social prestige date and marry all the hot girls (and, having been raised on porn, only one of those silicone-filled Instahos will do). So, you settle into your minimum wage job and Joe Rogan/Jordan Peterson and their ilk sell you a convenient, easy to digest explanation why your life sucks and how to fix it: weird diets and iffy supplements which will "make you a real man", the cult of faux-hypermasculinity, and a blind baseless hatred of liberals/women (especially feminists)/gays/immigrants/educated people/whoever is holding you back (in your mind).
There's a lot of money to be made off bullshit. That hormone-addled stoned chimpanzee Joe changes his facile opinion every 5 minutes doesn’t matter. He’s mind-numbingly stupid, and talks to other stupid people and acts (key word is ACTS) like he’s intelligent and so by extension, THEY’RE intelligent because they listen to and indulge him. These rubes who pay his subs are not looking for smarts, just talk.
Admittedly, it’s not easy to talk nonstop about nothing for hours at a time, and sales patter is a skill of sorts. A grifty sketchy former friend of mine during College was a junior radio host—aside from having a ‘radio voice’, he had the ability to talk without ever saying “umm”” “errrrr,” “like,” or any other filler words. His voice was clear, crisp, and erased of any regional accent. You would’ve thought he was college-educated, but he was a high-school dropout who lied on applications saying he graduated from an international private school and he was midway through a broadcasting degree. Heaven knows what else he lied about, he had a bad habit of doing that—type of dude who’d sell his grandma for good weed or fresh kicks or a promotion.
Look at Trump, same thing. He lies about everything, credentials being just one part. He speaks in word salad and *mesmerizes*. He’s a sociopath, who we know has a long checkered history of lying, cheating, stealing & sexually assaulting. His fans don’t care. He talks. And talks. When he flubs a word, he just goes on as if nothing happened.
Haven’t we learned that America long ago mowed its amber waves of grain then replaced them with a superhighway, a mall and a parking lot? And people are fine with it? That’s why someone like Joe got popular.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||September 2, 2021 4:14 PM|
Joe Rogaine will do anything to keep that paycheck coming—even lie to his listeners.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||September 2, 2021 5:00 PM|
I listen to Joe all the time, and y'all have built him up into some kind of bogeyman that he's not. He's an ordinary schlub who lucked into a career interviewing people from diverse walks of life, and the surprise is that he does it extremely well -- when he interviews, he asks genuine probing questions, challenges people on the more absurd claims, but also allows the guest time to express themselves fully. These are deep conversations that sometimes go over 3 hours. He's talked to everyone from Miley Cyrus to Neil Degrasse Tyson to Bernie Sanders to neurobiologist Andrew Huberman -- there's a reason why his audience is vastly larger than the major news channels combined -- people are starved for in-depth conversation, not these sound-bites of people screaming at each other for 30 seconds. He has said that he got the vaccine, and I'm sure he's taking Ivermectin under proper medical care. Y'all need to calm down; seriously, listen to a couple of his shows before passing judgment.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||September 2, 2021 5:10 PM|
[quote] some kind of bogeyman that he's not.
Here’s looking at you, kid.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||September 2, 2021 5:14 PM|
You were saying, r148?
|by Anonymous||reply 149||September 2, 2021 5:15 PM|
I don’t believe he’s even got COVID.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||September 2, 2021 5:17 PM|
He probably secretly took the vaccine months ago. Like a lot of Repubs, they just love having an anti-vaxx "cause" to rally around. Anything to hurt Biden and bring chaos. Anti-American is more like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||September 2, 2021 5:46 PM|
He didn't "secretly" take the vaccine. He mentioned on his podcast months ago that he got the vaccine.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||September 2, 2021 5:51 PM|
Joe is a comic, with countless fans. It’s hard not to have bumped into at least one enthusiastic listener of his.
You can usually tell how smart someone is by what they laugh at. So in a way, Rogan is doing an important public service as an intelligence index and personal alarm system.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||September 2, 2021 5:51 PM|
In clinical trials performed outside of the US it is shown to lessen the duration of symptoms. Maybe placebo but it has no harmful effects and is widely used outside of the US in hospitals.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||September 2, 2021 5:54 PM|
[quote]Why would someone like Rogan and all the other prominent ivermectin-promoters take the veterinary, not the human, form of the medicine? Is there supposedly some benefit to taking the horse dewormer vs. the approved/commonly used human form of the drug?
R144, the human-formulated Ivermectin is not approved for off-label usage against Covid, so most doctors won't prescribe it. Although some preliminary lab studies showed Ivermectin inhibited virus replication, it was at large dosages, that likely wouldn't be safe if scaled to humans. Other studies at lower does are inconclusive. So, since humans can't usually get the human version, they're resorting to getting the veterinary versions which don't require a prescription (you can get it at the farm feed store). And they're then poisoning themselves by overdosing.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||September 2, 2021 5:54 PM|
R144 The equine version of ivermectin is available to anyone at your local farm supply store. Human ivermectin requires a prescription through a physician.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||September 2, 2021 5:55 PM|
[quote] the human-formulated Ivermectin is not approved for off-label usage against Covid, so most doctors won't prescribe it.
r155, except many doctors apparently are; my brother got Covid in June and his doctor prescribed Ivermectin. And per the interview posted above, a hospital in New Jersey prescribes Ivermectin as part of their regimen for Covid patients.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||September 2, 2021 5:58 PM|
R112, they have been using Ivermectin on humans for decades. Its safety for humans has been proven time and again and for all ages and groups (like children and pregnant women).
The issue here is how much dosage is needed to be effective for its use for newer treatments. That calculation will be found in time and I believe there are studies where they have found the right dosage for its treatment usage - they have been using it in other countries for treatment for covid for a while now. It has proven effects on some of the covid effects on the body like in terms of inflammation.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||September 2, 2021 6:05 PM|
He had a breakthrough case which are usually very mild. Why all the remedies. He likely has other serious health issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||September 2, 2021 6:06 PM|
There's plenty of shit going in and out of his bloated body.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||September 2, 2021 6:07 PM|
Goddamn, just tell them that the study touting ivermectin was Egyptian. And debunked. The brown skin of its publishers will put an end to this nonsense.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||September 2, 2021 6:08 PM|
I'll be happy as a pig in shit if Ivermectin proves to be an effective way to help mitigate Covid infections. It currently is showing some promise in unreplicated studies and generating some wild anecdotal stories. But until then, all the self-dosers are doing is foolishly using themselves as guinea pigs, exactly what they accuse government and Big Pharma of doing with legit vaccines. Irony abounds.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||September 2, 2021 6:18 PM|
So...he already got vaccinated, for free, but is going to claim this boatload of expensive shit saved him. Got it.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||September 2, 2021 6:44 PM|
Tell them the Ivermectin studies were funded by [bold]ANTIFA![/bold] and Critical Race Theory. And the research was originally published in the "1619 Project".
That oughtta stop it.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||September 2, 2021 6:44 PM|
[quote] 900 degree molten lava kills COVID-19 in vitro. Doesn't make it an effective cure in humans.
Hmmmm. We’ll look into that.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||September 2, 2021 7:16 PM|
If Ivermectin didn't show promise as possible treatment for COVID then it wouldn't currently be getting tested in clinical trials as a treatment, you absolute clowns.
It's almost like you DON'T want it there to be other possible treatments for the disease. It's really bizarre.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||September 2, 2021 7:25 PM|
MAGA alert on aisle R166!
|by Anonymous||reply 167||September 2, 2021 7:26 PM|
I'm sure Joe tests positive for a lot of things.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||September 2, 2021 7:27 PM|
r167 I think the DLers with sense have gotten privy to the fact that tossing anything "Trump" related is a piss-poor (and tired) attempt at dismissing valid points. I know it's only started making me actually look into information further. So, you're having the opposite effect. I hope you realize that.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||September 2, 2021 7:28 PM|
Double downing Trumpster Dumpster alert......R169
|by Anonymous||reply 170||September 2, 2021 7:30 PM|
So in a way, Rogan is doing an important public service as an intelligence index and personal alarm system.
What's funny-ironic is that one of Joe Rogan's repeat guests, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, has sensible and good suggestions for immune system boosting supplements. Daily I take one of her recommended supplement stacks. I am also fully vaccinated, with two doses. I have had zero Covid-19 symptoms.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||September 2, 2021 7:35 PM|
I hope you realize that. R169
|by Anonymous||reply 172||September 2, 2021 7:36 PM|
r172 Your momma.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||September 2, 2021 7:37 PM|
Keep "doing your research", R169. Can I have your stuff? Oh, wait. forget that.. MAGA don't have good stuff.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||September 2, 2021 7:45 PM|
[quote] suggestions for immune system boosting supplements.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||September 2, 2021 7:53 PM|
r175 Such as Zinc plus Vitamin C, Omega-3 fish oil, magnesium, Vitamin D3, and glycine. B-50 complex at times.
I include a link to a webpage listing her supplements.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||September 2, 2021 7:55 PM|
Sorry R166, when multiple posters here have explained that Ivermectin's use for covid is still experimental and unproven, you're not going to get away with making the leap from "showing promise as a possible treatment" to "acceptable for people to take outside of a study." That you think you can—and that you make a further leap to accusing us of not wanting treatments, when many posters have mentioned e.g. monoclonal antibody therapy—bespeaks the low intelligence of the antivax MAGAt.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||September 2, 2021 8:04 PM|
[quote] Omega-3 fish oil,
I ain’t touching nothing to do with fish, much less their oil. Eewwww.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||September 2, 2021 8:57 PM|
I don’t care what treatments he got. Rogan should just clearly say he was vaxxed and that’s why he’s fine. The treatment is besides the point unless you’re not vaxxed. Than you have a problem.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||September 2, 2021 9:44 PM|
r177 To be fair, all of the vaccines, save for Pfizer as of last week, are also experimental and are backed by 6 months worth of data and an placebo group that was eliminated before Phase III trials were completed. And not only do a lot of you stand behind them, but you push them religiously.
I never stated that it was ok to use off-label. The FDA doesn't recommend it for COVID treatment, but it isn't prohibited, thus its use in many clinical settings by attending physicians. I'm criticizing the haughty attitude you lot have about it as though it's been completely discounted as a possible treatment, when it's not and has been given genuine consideration in medicine and two current large studies; one in the UK and one in the US.
The dismissive attitude and arrogant labeling of anything you disagree with as "Trump/maga, whatever..." is childish. No physicians on this planet are completely writing off Ivermectin as a possible treatment for COVID, so you all just look incredibly silly. I mean...fucking Christ, the inability and outright refusal of so many of you to just DISCUSS this virus, treatments, and vaccinations like normal, functional, people is appalling. Holy shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||September 2, 2021 9:46 PM|
Joe Rogan is a moron. You should have taken the fucking vaccine instead of your stupid horse pill, moron. Use your broadcast platform for good. But no, you thought you were a medical expert. Fucking moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||September 2, 2021 9:49 PM|
I am Joe's Liver. Bye bye.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||September 2, 2021 10:06 PM|
Yet here you are, r180.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||September 2, 2021 10:13 PM|
We are discussing them, R180; we're just not making an equivalence between vaccines backed by clinical trials and decades' worth of research and a drug that's shown some potential in vitro but gives no clear result (yet) in humans with covid—and that people are taking in veterinary form, in unsupervised doses. We're not dismissing Ivermectin's potential, we're just not exaggerating it, as you are. Your accusations about our "haughty attitude" is a pretty gross straw man argument; the fact is that taking Ivermectin right now, in any form, has no verified advantage against covid and is being pushed by the same right-wingers who discourage people from getting the vaccines.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||September 2, 2021 10:25 PM|
R180 fancies himself to be smarter than all medical scientists put together. In reality, he's probably some mouthbreathing Newsmax watcher and YouTube rabbit hole follower.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||September 2, 2021 10:28 PM|
All this hysteria will only win him new fans.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||September 2, 2021 10:29 PM|
Oh, please, this bald cockface is about as sick as his ex-gay donkey teeth fellow right wing grifter. Has Jordan Peterson announced his COVID-19 status and the ensuing horse dewormer therapy?
|by Anonymous||reply 187||September 2, 2021 10:33 PM|
No idea what r180 is saying, but it must be stupid since I have him blocked. And I pretty much only block MAGATs.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||September 2, 2021 10:33 PM|
r184 The drug has been around for decades, is approved by the FDA for use as an antiparasitic, and has shown enough effectiveness in actual clinical settings to warrant larger randomized clinical trials which are currently happening in the UK with PRINCIPLE and the US with ACTIV-6. So, no, it's not just in-vitro where there the drug has shown effectiveness that warrants further investigation. I'm not big on over-exaggerating its effects either, but I'm also not big on prematurely dismissing a medication that could potentially save a lot of lives and shows promise in a clinical setting.
Maybe you, specifically, are discussing this matter like a normal, functional, person, in which case, my little outburst doesn't necessarily apply to you. But there are a significant amount of DLers to whom it does. And that is who I was mainly addressing. Here's the ACTIV-6 trial details:
|by Anonymous||reply 189||September 2, 2021 10:48 PM|
r185 I'm a female and I actually studied medicine at university. I'm not a practicing physician and make no claims to be an expert on these topics, but I do have an understanding and working knowledge of material related to it. I just happen to enjoy reading and learning about anything related to biomedical sciences and like talking about it. Calm down.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||September 2, 2021 10:52 PM|
It's crazy how some people are completely melting down with rage because a man who's fully-vaccinated *dared* to hedge his bets by taking a drug that not even the FDA claims is dangerous (in human-approved form), and at worst, was a waste of a few dollars he doesn't care about anyway.
For the record, there's very little disagreement that ivermectin, when given early in the infection, measurably reduces viral load compared to no ivermectin. Even studies that ultimately argued ivermectin wasn't useful agree that if you compare the viral loads of people who began taking ivermectin early in the infection against those at the same stage who haven't taken ivermectin, the range among those taking ivermectin is unquestionably lower.
The disagreement is whether the lower viral load actually MATTERS, because the difference isn't huge. If you plot the viral-load ranges of ivermectin vs no-ivermectin side by side, you can clearly see that the lower end of the "ivermectin" group is about 500k copies/dL lower than the other... but the actual observed RANGE is really more like 7-9 million copies/dL for no-ivermectin, vs 6.5-8 million copies/dL WITH ivermectin. So... the trend is there, and clearly visible... but... it's kind of like comparing how wet you're likely to get walking outside in a downpour with a sheet of paper over your head, vs none at all. Either way, you're going to get soaked by rain, even if the sheet of paper manages to keep your forehead dry.
That said... as long as you don't go overboard on the dosing, it's not going to HARM anything besides maybe your wallet and the sensibilities of some self-righteous internet critics who read about you doing it. IMHO, if someone who's vaccinated wants to take ivermectin & it helps them worry less and sleep better at night, fuck it, let them enjoy their ivermectin. Maybe it'll help, it probably won't, but either way, it's no skin off my back.
Seriously, the way some people online are acting, you'd think Joe was murdering newborns and deep-frying their foreskins to snack on.
People get sick and take shit that's never been "scientifically proven" to "work" EVERY FUCKING DAY. Seriously, try to find any "randomized controlled trial" showing that phenylephrine is even slightly effective at reducing the symptoms of rhinitis or runny nose. Hint: there aren't any, because it DOESN'T. Years ago, someone proved to the FDA that it's mostly harmless, semi-abandoned it after pseudoephedrine ended up being way better, then after the DEA started to bitch about pseudoephedrine being too easy to turn into crystal meth, the companies that make cold medicine asked the FDA to let them just use it instead and it said OK without ever requiring the slightest bit of proof that it even WORKS, let alone works even partially as well as pseudoephedrine. If y'all want to be outraged about anything, be outraged over the fact that the DEA basically bullied the companies that sell cold remedies into substituting a drug that doesn't do jack shit for one that "kind of" works, albeit poorly.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||September 2, 2021 11:03 PM|
All that verbal diarrhea, R191, for what exactly? To cut a basic asshole some slack?
|by Anonymous||reply 192||September 2, 2021 11:05 PM|
r192, no, it's because right now, the internet's self-righteous guardians have gotten whipped up into a froth in the latest moral panic, and feel like it's their duty to stamp out any public dissent from the official narrative.
Never, in goddamn fucking HISTORY, has there been this much public outrage directed against people using a drug the FDA long ago approved as safe to treat a disease with no officially-approved treatment. Amidst public fear and uncertainty, some have responded by lashing out and bullying those who dare to do anything besides go home, take tylenol, and passively wait to either spontaneously get better or turn blue and die.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||September 2, 2021 11:14 PM|
R193 is disingenuously pretending that these claims about Ivermectin aren't completely implicated in an anti-vaccine and anti-mask discourse that's actually causing high rates of sickness and death. Also hyperbolizing our ridicule of Joe Rogan as "self-righteous" "melt-downs with rage"—although anger might not, in fact, be an appropriate response to this ideology and its consequences.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||September 2, 2021 11:18 PM|
Newsflash: hypochondriacs (who were among the first to get vaccinated earlier this year) were taking ivermectin LAST YEAR... long before antivaxxers had even HEARD of ivermectin.
Believe it or not, ivermectin's hypochondriacs hate the antivaxxers even more than you do.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||September 2, 2021 11:31 PM|
Like he's not injecting test twice a week anyway. And he got you talking.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||September 2, 2021 11:33 PM|
R86: "It’s way too early to use it as the basis for your claim."
|by Anonymous||reply 197||September 2, 2021 11:53 PM|
Why go through all this bullshit nonsense, i.e., Ivermectin, etc., especially when you are not a medical expert and when you can take a free and safe vaccine that has gone through three stages of clinical trials and now has been approved by the FDA (Pfizer) with the Moderna vaccine approval soon to follow?
|by Anonymous||reply 198||September 2, 2021 11:59 PM|
Joe looks like a walking STD. I’m actually surprised he’s still alive.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||September 3, 2021 12:13 AM|
Dear Joe Rogan,
I'm not sure who you are (radio host?) but I know you by your reprehensible public statements that land in the newspaper. Please die.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||September 3, 2021 12:15 AM|
r180 "No physician on the planet...."
Your statement was so.....two hours ago......
|by Anonymous||reply 201||September 3, 2021 1:18 AM|
I hope he dies.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||September 3, 2021 1:28 AM|
His asshole must be so chapped
|by Anonymous||reply 203||September 3, 2021 10:05 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 204||September 3, 2021 3:24 PM|
How’s Rogan feeling?
|by Anonymous||reply 205||September 3, 2021 3:28 PM|
He looks like an aged fly over high school football player, one who eats too much beef.
Is he dead yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 206||September 3, 2021 4:02 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 207||September 3, 2021 4:35 PM|
Please stop talking about me.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||September 3, 2021 4:43 PM|
Is the guy on the all beef diet?
|by Anonymous||reply 209||September 3, 2021 5:04 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 210||September 3, 2021 5:23 PM|
Go fuck yourself R210. Or better yet, don't take the vaccine and swallow bleach and horse dewormer.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||September 3, 2021 5:25 PM|
No, R209, that was me!
|by Anonymous||reply 212||September 3, 2021 5:26 PM|
R211, I’m not him but did you misunderstand his post or something?
The tweet he linked to was making fun of the idiots who won’t get vaxxed due to “big pharma,” yet they’ll get prescriptions for big pharma.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||September 3, 2021 6:52 PM|
The exaggeration does no good. There needs to be honesty and transparency about medicine such as the vaccines and things like ivermectin. Why the need to demonize a medicine that is a widely used preventative and treatment around the world for the past 40 years? We should want to find all possible treatments and preventatives possible for a world wide pandemic.
If people could rely on factual assessments perhaps they would trust the powers that be more and accept that the vaccines will save lives and protect long term health. But when the public is misled about one ting then that taints whatever else is being discussed.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||September 3, 2021 8:14 PM|
r207, John Cooper is full of horse shit. At BEST, he took an account of some random episode, then warped & exaggerated it into a fake crisis.
Say... Joe Sixpack consumes an entire tube of ivermectin paste (vs the ~1/6 tube that would be a more appropriate dose for a 200lb adult human). He drives to BFE Memorial Hospital, parks in front of the emergency room door, and walks inside to talk to the triage nurse. While he's talking to her, an ambulance pulls up, and has to park behind him. Z0mg! Ambulance backup!
He might not be telling a literal lie, but he's certainly presenting it in a way calculated to be as sensational and misleading as possible.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||September 3, 2021 9:05 PM|
[quote]John Cooper is full of horse shit. At BEST, he took an account of some random episode, then warped & exaggerated it into a fake crisis.
John Cooper didn't write the story.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||September 3, 2021 9:17 PM|
[quote] There needs to be honesty and transparency about medicine such as the vaccines and things like ivermectin. Why the need to demonize a medicine that is a widely used preventative and treatment around the world for the past 40 years?
I can agree with you, generally. But we’re not demonizing the medication, just the idiots who think they know more than the damn CDC, who has posted numerous tweets imploring people not to take it.
If and/or when it’s FDA approved for use in COVID-19 cases, we’ll stop making fun of those who take it under a doctor’s care in the appropriate form for humans and in the appropriate dosages. Until then, it’s another hydroxychloroquine situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||September 3, 2021 9:34 PM|
Dr. Mike Hansen reads Joe to filth
|by Anonymous||reply 218||September 3, 2021 10:19 PM|
Does Joe Rogan know for sure how all those different substances react to each other inside his tummy?
|by Anonymous||reply 219||September 3, 2021 10:33 PM|
This article from NPR gives some non-sensationalistic insight into the alleged "flood" of ivermectin-related calls to "poison control" hotlines.
Wisconsin's definition of "flood" = 9 calls in July, vs 1 call in a typical past month.
Kansas' definition = 13 calls in 2021, vs 1 last year
So... the number has increased, but we're still talking about something that's almost a rounding error compared to their monthly call volume. It's a tempest in a teapot of manufactured moral panic.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||September 4, 2021 4:35 PM|
[quote]I suppose if you had untreated roundworm and started taking it for your Covid infection it would make you feel better.
Yes, but if Joe has the dreaded Tapeworm variant, that Ivermectin won't work. Ivermectin is only for the Ascarid variant....
|by Anonymous||reply 221||September 4, 2021 4:52 PM|
Thank you r214. Common sense...
|by Anonymous||reply 222||September 4, 2021 8:29 PM|
Let's not downplay this dangerous behavior. "Mississippi’s health department said that 70 percent of recent calls to the state poison control center in August came from people who ingested ivermectin from livestock supply stores."
|by Anonymous||reply 223||September 5, 2021 12:53 AM|
Another: “The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities." To be fair, there must be a good number of gunshot victims on any given day in rural OK.
Interestingly, “Growing up in a small town, rural area, we’ve all accidentally been exposed to ivermectin at some time. So, it’s something people are familiar with. Because of those accidental sticks, when trying to inoculate cattle, they’re less afraid of it." But there's still no warrant to dose yourself.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||September 5, 2021 2:30 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 225||September 5, 2021 2:42 AM|
[quote] This article from NPR gives some non-sensationalistic insight into the alleged "flood" of ivermectin-related calls to "poison control" hotlines.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||September 5, 2021 7:14 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 227||September 6, 2021 4:33 PM|
Joe Rogan used to be so sexy...
|by Anonymous||reply 228||September 6, 2021 5:02 PM|
Thanks for linking to someone who retweets Jack Posobiec, not-so-subtle troll @R225. F&F.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||September 6, 2021 5:03 PM|
Anyone want to explain R210’s post to R211?
|by Anonymous||reply 230||September 6, 2021 5:16 PM|
Upside to this?
Foot-in-mouth Rogan may have encouraged people to OD or infect themselves with Covid and Spotify will be sued up the wazoo, ending Rohan’s undeserved multimillion dollar platform.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||September 6, 2021 5:20 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 232||September 6, 2021 5:22 PM|
Every time I see Rogan's face my first thought is if this piece of shit dudebro douchebag moron is one of the most influential people in the country then maybe the US isn't worth saving.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||September 6, 2021 5:24 PM|
R229, what's your problem with Jack Posobiec? Seriously, if you're going to cast aspersions on someone, you should back it up. You can't just say they're "right wing" anymore - in 2021, that could mean a diehard liberal who still believes in free speech.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||September 6, 2021 6:21 PM|
R234, Jack Posibiec is a rancid right wing piece of shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||September 6, 2021 6:56 PM|
Again, that could just mean he knows biological sex is real and isn't afraid to say so. Can you clarify?
|by Anonymous||reply 236||September 6, 2021 7:05 PM|
Dr. Campbell has had several vids covering the Ivermectin studies.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||September 6, 2021 7:07 PM|
LInk below to the ICON study
|by Anonymous||reply 238||September 6, 2021 7:11 PM|
Well I for one want some horse dewormer right now!
|by Anonymous||reply 239||September 6, 2021 7:20 PM|
I also have worms crawling inside my body. Horse dewormer please.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||September 6, 2021 7:25 PM|
I too have worms eating through my brain. I'd like a prescription for livestock dewormer. Thanks ever so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||September 6, 2021 7:29 PM|
Been feeling cold and just so dead lately. Worms in my stomach and my eyeballs. Really wanna try that Ivermectin Joe keeps talkn' about.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||September 6, 2021 7:33 PM|
It didn’t work for you, Phil. You were given it over the objections of your attending physician.
Didn’t do shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||September 6, 2021 7:33 PM|
My mortician says I have worms so I guess I should try the cow dewormer. Thanks Joe!
|by Anonymous||reply 244||September 6, 2021 7:40 PM|
That metadata study analysis was debunked, or at least seriously challenged, r247, as you know, but you keep posting it anyway as though it were the latest valid thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||September 6, 2021 7:42 PM|
MY mortician said the same thing! I have worms too! He said they eat the soft parts first. That means they're eating my brain and my dick. I want some Ivermectin, STAT!
|by Anonymous||reply 246||September 6, 2021 7:45 PM|
My worms are from God, but I want the Ivermectin anyway. God Is dead to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||September 6, 2021 7:50 PM|
I can feel the worms eating my organs, but I ALSO have a maggot problem. Will Ivermectin help me with that?
|by Anonymous||reply 248||September 6, 2021 7:58 PM|
R245 Menluvinguy, I do believe you're confusing me with another poster, as I have never posted anything about Ivermectin before.
There is an utter lack of treatments. People advocating for these especially in India, the Third World, etc have their merits to their arguments. None of them are "Anti-Vaxxers"either. Some feel there exists a real need for a treatment protocol available to patients before hostalisation should occur. Very few receive Regeneron, usually only Dexamethasone.
I wouldn't take it, and I am not advocating for people to take it. However, many around the world feel differently on the subject of using already approved medicines as OFF LABEL treatments for Covid, especially when theres NOTHING else to give.
In Campbell's vid, he lists SEVERAL studies in the video's description. His met-analysis isn't one study. Perhaps you could provide a link to the Meta-Analis study you're referring to. I would certainly read it.
The physician below covers these studies as well, and from what I've learnt, there is suppression of giral replication when administered EARLY ON. No, it is not a cure, nor is it a replacement for, or substitution for vaccination. It's simply being tried as a possible tool, when there are no treatment protocols which are standard.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||September 6, 2021 8:10 PM|
I will spend any amount of money and take any and all voodoo meds by the handful, just don't give me a proven vaccine that works for free!
|by Anonymous||reply 250||September 6, 2021 8:12 PM|
Except, it doesn’t appear to work, D.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||September 6, 2021 8:49 PM|
Thanx Dr. Boris!
|by Anonymous||reply 252||September 6, 2021 8:51 PM|
We all die eventfully, you know?
|by Anonymous||reply 253||September 6, 2021 10:10 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 254||September 6, 2021 10:15 PM|
Joe's first show since the brouhaha is up.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||September 7, 2021 6:15 PM|
I heard he had horse dewormer shoved up his asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||September 7, 2021 6:25 PM|
Yes it's true. The way you take Ivermectin is anally. Make sure you take a lot of it. You get a fistful and shove it up your ass. It helps if you get someone to do it for you. All you do is place an ad on Craigslist and pick the one with the largest hands.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||September 7, 2021 7:20 PM|
I can vouch for Joe. It's really simple. Just put the Ivermectin in a hollowed out cucumber. Then gently shove the cucumber deep inside your asshole. Use a shoehorn if necessary. Really good and deep. Then use your butt muscles to clench the cucumber until it explodes inside you. Works every time.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||September 7, 2021 7:28 PM|
What a childish comment R258.
Turns out the whole 'our ICUs are backed up due to people using Ivermectin' is FALSE. As Trump would say, FAKE NEWS.
And here's proof. Oklahoma's KFOR news was the first to run a fake story that made this false narrative explode. September 1, 2021, KFOR reported that emergency rooms were overrun with patients who had overdosed on horse ivermectin. The claim was supposedly made by doctor Dr. Jason McElyea.
But ACCORDING TO THE HOSPITAL -- he hasn't worked there in months -- yet the media ran with it.
And it's stories like these that Trump supporters and other republicans WILL RUN ON IN 2022 and 2024.
Pay attention girls.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||September 14, 2021 2:29 PM|
Yeah, DL hashed that out 10 days ago, R259. R88 from the linked thread:
That doctor didn't say ANYTHING about ivermectin overdoses filling the ER.
That's what I'm trying to tell you guys. Watch the KFOR video interview and see for yourself! He NEVER says that. He talks separately about ivermectin potentially causing serious problems, and about the ERs being overflowing with patients, but never links the two together. It's the local journalist who does, then Rolling Stone repeats it in their own article that's taken largely from KFOR's information.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||September 14, 2021 2:35 PM|
Nice dodge, but people still should not be taking a medication that hasn't been approved for covid and whose laboratory effectiveness against covid is dubious and, if valid, only works in dangerously high doses. And they certainly shouldn't be taking the veterinary version of any medication.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||September 14, 2021 4:02 PM|
Let those fucks die on horse shit. They deserve it.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||September 14, 2021 4:04 PM|
[quote] He talks separately about ivermectin potentially causing serious problems, and about the ERs being overflowing with patients, but never links the two together.
How naive can you be. No he doesn't - he just conveniently and misleadingly leaves the bread crumbs and leaves it to us to link the two together.
Seriously, this isn't about ivermectin, this is about manipulating the public. Whatever the issue is. That's how you do it.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||September 14, 2021 4:25 PM|
There are clinical trials (first phase) looking at Ivermectin (human doses/human medication) for treatment for Covid. These trials are NOT showing any positive results. It does NOT work. This will not advance to more clinical trials. Merck, the main pharmaceutical company, stated this as well. I will post their statement in the link for you all to read. Sadly, there is not any promising treatments for Covid.
We have a vaccine though that is PROVEN to work. It has gone through all the clinical trials. It has been approved by various scientific medical bodies in various countries. It is widely be administered. It is prove SAFE to use.
Do not take medication made for horses. A human is not a horse. This is ALWAYS dangerous. The ivermectin in this small studies is not horse medication. It is the active drug and other ingredients made for humans. Also, at a dose safe for humans. Do not take horse medication.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||September 14, 2021 4:32 PM|
It's ridiculous how Republicans have even thrown away BASIC common sense. Let them die "owning" us.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||September 14, 2021 4:37 PM|
[quote] These trials are NOT showing any positive results. It does NOT work.
Except that's just not accurate. But go ahead and believe what you want. There are clearly properties in ivermectin that are properties needed to diminish covid related symptoms. I will wait for the fuller studies not conducted or interpreted to produce a pre-conclusion - from either side of this debate.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||September 14, 2021 5:02 PM|
If Ivermectin actually worked they wouldn't have to fake the studies and papers showing it worked.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||September 14, 2021 5:04 PM|
Trump trolls NEVER stop. Go ahead and take your horse shit and DIE already.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||September 14, 2021 5:04 PM|
vaccines have clinical studies backing them up. Also, scientific medical bodies in many countries are also approving them for use. They are in mass use now. Please get the vaccine. These vaccines do work.
Right now, we do not have effective treatments for Covid.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||September 14, 2021 5:20 PM|
Ivermectin does not work to treat Covid. They already did the small clinical trials and it does not work at all. This is HUMAN MEDICATION.
Vaccine WORK. Clinical Trials PROVE THIS. They are being used in many countries.
Horse Medication has always been DANGEROUS. This horse medication that people are taking is dangerous. It is not the medication used in these small studies, that again did not show any positive effect. Horse medication is always DANGEROUS to humans. DO not take. It will do nothing to treat covid. You are hurting yourself.
Please get the covid vaccination!
|by Anonymous||reply 270||September 14, 2021 5:28 PM|
[quote]I will wait for the fuller studies not conducted
You do that honey.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||September 14, 2021 5:31 PM|
Let conservatives die. They're always screaming about how they can't wait to "meet the face of god". Go right ahead, fuckers. You won't be meeting anyone except the worms eating your rotting brains
|by Anonymous||reply 272||September 14, 2021 5:32 PM|
Don't worry, Joe. You may have survived Delta, but I've still got a few variants up my spiky sleeve.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||September 14, 2021 5:33 PM|
Note to Trumptards and Ya’ll Qaeda: My Lib ass will feel particularly owned of you guzzle a bottle of bleach.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||September 14, 2021 5:37 PM|
R147 I've heard a few of his podcasts now, before giving an opinion, and I'm sorry, I'm not seeing the mass appeal. He's extremely blah. His interviews didn't offer much more info than I anyway knew about the interviewee and it went on way too long. It was like sitting in on a conversation between 2 people at a bar... a boring bar during the day... actually I'm wrong, that would still be more exciting than his show. No exaggeration and I'm not even very fussy about entertainment. It was like the 2 were talking, but I couldn't tell you what about.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||September 14, 2021 5:55 PM|
And to the Ivermectin cheerleader, let's say it did slightly relieve symptoms. It's not a replacement for vaccines and that's the problem. We need covid to stop spreading, killing people, and mutating. If this Ivermectin did do something, it still doesn't fucking do what we need it to do. It's actually quite selfish of individuals to only want to take something that will help them in the moment and help them alone.
Antibody treatment taken early on can work and that's been used in a lot of cases, but same thing with that being an individual solution -- back to not addressing the reason it's a pandemic in the first place. I know someone that got it and it saved their life, but guess what? Him and his wife still wo get the fucking vaccine, and that treatment only gave them more of an excuse to not get one. They can just go in for it and all better! I guess fuck the people they're spreading to in the meantime and fuck the problem of it mutating.
It's like some asshole taking cold meds to alleviate their symptoms, but they keep going about their business -- only this is worse because it's a pandemic where people are fucking dying.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||September 14, 2021 6:08 PM|
AT&T fucking sucks. I had been with t-mobile for fifteen years. AT&T had a plan where you get an iPhone 12 Pro Max when you switch to their plan. I needed a new phone, and I didn't think there would be much difference in their service, so I switched.
Now I have a phone that has 5G capability but the speed is SO slow, I'll never even know what that means. It hasn't been this slow since 2010. FML.
Not a fan of AT&T.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||September 14, 2021 6:16 PM|
why don't you just get the covid vaccination?
Realize it was stupid and dangerous to take medication for horses. And know, you are not able to get human ivermectin. Human Ivermectin does not work to treat Covid. Moreover, it never was suggested as a medical preventive. VACCINE are and they work.
Vaccine are better. You do not want to be in the ICU getting some experimental medications (that most likely do not work) if you can prevent it. And you can. Get the Vaccine. The vaccine is far better than treatment.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||September 14, 2021 6:17 PM|
R276, so who's saying we don't need vaccines. I think we need to be researching all possible treatments.
We also need to research why countries with routine mass drug administration of prophylactic chemotherapy including ivermectin have a significantly lower incidence of COVID-19. That's vital and to ignore it for whatever unscientific reasons are proffered does not advance the battle against covid or other corona viruses.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||September 14, 2021 6:18 PM|
^I hate these fucking false equivalences. Take your horse dewormer and die. That's you job as a Republican.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||September 14, 2021 6:23 PM|
I guess science just ain't your thang, R280. Neither is discerning the politics of others. Stick to the cock and balls threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||September 14, 2021 6:26 PM|
^Stick to fucking PARLER.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||September 14, 2021 6:29 PM|
R279 and who's saying they're not allowed to be studied? No one is saying that! They're saying do not take something from the damn feed store right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||September 14, 2021 7:24 PM|
R279 and furthermore, we have something that works that's been studied more than the other things you mentioned. Fine, study all the back up solutions, but you're acting like it's back at the beginning before we had a proven vaccine. Nothing about this is logical. When deaths of vaccinated are .0001% why the hell would anyone be so adamant about alternative meds, that don't have the track record vaccines do. It sounds loony.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||September 14, 2021 7:30 PM|
Perhaps the Ivermectin cheerleader is under the influence of Liberty Counsel chairman Matt Staver, who today claimed that, "Ivermectin is proving to be a formidable alternative treatment for COVID-19" and that "the FDA, the CDC, Dr. Anthony Fauci and the Biden administration continue to push false information about the drug."
Staver also claims that vaccine mandates are causing suicides and plane crashes, and that the vaccines themselves are causing miscarriages, sterility, brain damage and "procreation problems." Earlier this summer, he hosted a guest on his podcast who claimed the vaccine contains graphene oxide with the intent of “linking people to the internet.”
How Staver finds time to push his anti-LGBT agenda amidst all this, I have no idea. (But he does.) I also have no idea why the Ivermectin cheerleader doesn't stop to consider that the people who share his view are all charlatans. But such is the world we live in.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||September 14, 2021 7:46 PM|
[quote] "procreation problems."
Just because no one wants to fuck you doesn’t mean there are "procreation problems."
|by Anonymous||reply 286||September 14, 2021 8:04 PM|
R285 interesting info, thanks for sharing that. It's nice to find out who is behind some of this propaganda. I'd love to get a look at their stock investments.
You know we're in a real nosedive when these conartists are getting away with murder. There's no debating that pregnant women are at a 10 fold risk of dying from not being vaccinated. How can anyone instead recommend a dewormer to pregnant women and sleep at night? It's insidious.
And though I have a feeling this all goes back to money, I'm still confused at those causing mass deaths. How is that good for business? Sometimes I wonder if they know climate change is getting that bad, and that resources are going to be that tight, they want a lot of people to die before shit hits the fan. Less people to wrestle with over clean water, that's for sure, and though it's mostly their "side", they know their side has more guns (and are nuts). I hate to go the conspiracy route, but seriously, wtf is going on?
|by Anonymous||reply 287||September 14, 2021 8:05 PM|
Both sides are tiresome for the same reasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||September 14, 2021 8:48 PM|
False equivalency. There is the side of reality, of science and vaccines to stop deadly plagues. And there are political shits, who lie about "freedom" with fake outrage for political gain while killing people. FUCK YOU, YOU LYING MUREROUS SHIT.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||September 15, 2021 12:16 AM|
R289 gets it exactly right.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||September 15, 2021 2:50 AM|
Joe Rogan is vaccinated, was given steroids, monoclonal antibodies, and ivermectin.
Funny how he’s crediting solely the ivermectin for making him well.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||September 15, 2021 3:23 AM|
[quote]I'd love to get a look at their stock investments.
Meh, that's not always a good thing to go on. I hold shares in Moderna (MRNA) and Pfizer (PFE) because I knew that these vaccines, that I have no intention of taking just yet, and have no qualms about saying so, would cause their stocks, and subsequently my portfolio, to skyrocket. That's a guaranteed massive return on investment.
I'm a skeptic, not a retard. Well...maybe only slightly retarded, considering the other stocks I YOLO'ed into earlier this year. :-/
|by Anonymous||reply 292||September 16, 2021 2:55 AM|
He can go ahead and kill all his fans. The world would be a better place
|by Anonymous||reply 293||September 16, 2021 3:07 AM|
[quote]Funny how he’s crediting solely the ivermectin for making him well.
Except, he's not? He said he took a bunch of different meds, one of which was Ivermectin, the media went apeshit and then ran away with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||September 16, 2021 6:11 AM|
Yeah! Listen to Joe!! Let's all take dewormer and LIVE! And a bunch of other random shit! Don't take that Demorat vaccine! My body my choice! Except for chicks.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||September 16, 2021 6:29 AM|
can he die already
useless, oxygen thief
|by Anonymous||reply 296||September 16, 2021 6:31 AM|
He certainly took a lot of pharmaceuticals for someone who consistently rails against "Big Pharma."
|by Anonymous||reply 297||September 16, 2021 12:49 PM|
R294, he talks alot about Ivermectin and how supposedly many doctors recommend he take it, which I somehow doubt.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||September 16, 2021 1:51 PM|
Yeah, quack doctors who haven't noticed that the studies so far are completely inconclusive and that the doses that supposedly help against covid are too high to prescribe safely. The sleeve tattoos are unfortunate. Midlife crisis?
|by Anonymous||reply 299||September 16, 2021 1:56 PM|
With Rogan, it's life crisis.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||September 16, 2021 2:01 PM|
[quote] how supposedly many doctors recommend he take it,
People are saying…. Many people. Many people are saying it.
Where have I heard that before?
|by Anonymous||reply 301||September 16, 2021 2:51 PM|
He got lots of publicity with this so is milking it
|by Anonymous||reply 302||September 16, 2021 6:53 PM|
If it is meant to kill parasites, won't Joe Die?
|by Anonymous||reply 303||September 17, 2021 3:19 AM|