First episode’s OK. Steve Martin and Martin Short are good. Selena Gomez is…pretty. Her flat line readings already drive me crazy. Short plays a Broadway director-a hetero one. Which is stupid. The costume department obviously didn’t get the memo.
Anybody watch Only Murders in the Building on Hulu yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 386||January 14, 2022 1:25 PM|
As I kid, I adored these guys. They were the epitome of hip comedy to my teenage self. Which is why it's so upsetting to see them become codgers.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||August 31, 2021 7:11 PM|
I slogged thought the first episode, then went to sleep during the second.
There might be a good idea for a mystery comedy there, but it has been ruined by stretching it out into 10 episodes.
Martin and Short are their reliable selves, but Selena Gomez is godawful and makes the threesome getting together unbelievable.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||August 31, 2021 7:20 PM|
[quote]Selena Gomez is godawful and makes the threesome getting together unbelievable.
[quote]Selena Gomez is…pretty. Her flat line readings already drive me crazy.
All true, except the pretty part. Her delivery is just off as if she couldn't move her jaw.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||August 31, 2021 9:53 PM|
What the fuck is up with the show’s opening sequence credits, which completely has nothing to do with where they actually live in the building, that made no sense and threw the whole thing off for me?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||August 31, 2021 11:19 PM|
Not enough Jackie Hoffman.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||September 1, 2021 2:59 AM|
I really liked the first episode, Selena Gomez I think is supposed to be really stiff and off-putting, hopefully that will change as the series goes on.
Not sure we can say for certain that Martin Short's character is straight.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||September 1, 2021 8:19 AM|
[Quote] Selena Gomez is…pretty.
Lol i feel like this gets said alot in reviews for her movies/tv shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||September 1, 2021 8:23 AM|
Love the first episode. The no-nonsense detective's tantrum about true crime podcasts was hilarious.
I have not yet seen episode two and three (which are also available so far), but Mabel acts so incredibly shifty beyond the opening scene (and the final scene). Must be one epic misdirection if it's supposed to be a mystery.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||September 1, 2021 8:33 AM|
I think Charles (Steve Martin) is the murderer. He noticed the guy in that flimsy protective gear running up the stairs while everybody else was running down (probably followed him) and him showing up in the courtyard is way later than the viewer assumes. I think he's some kind of sociopath like Joe Goldberg (Penn Badgley) in You where Charles is obsessed Mabel. The neighbor extra in episode one mentions a Lucy to Charles which could hint to a previous obsession of his.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||September 1, 2021 9:10 AM|
I watched the first three episodes and enjoyed them. It's such a fun show. Steve Martin and Martin Short are hilarious. Gomez and her clenched jaw are the weak links for me.
Not sure who the killer is yet. Maybe the cop from E01 was right -- it's just a suicide and the true crime fans are making things up. That said, Oscar going to prison for 10 years for a crime that he didn't commit -- who really pushed Zoe off the roof? I'm thinking it has to be Oscar's dad, the building super. Son doing time so his dad doesn't have to is the only thing that makes sense.
I also think Oliver might have planted some of the evidence that they think indicates murder. He is broke and needs a comeback. He's desperate to make this a podcast and more.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||September 1, 2021 4:12 PM|
I watched the first three episodes during last night's storm but it was raining so hard that I missed some of the dialogue.
[quote]The neighbor extra in episode one mentions a Lucy to Charles which could hint to a previous obsession of his.
I missed this, I guess I need to give episodes 1-3 a re-watch before episode 4 becomes available.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||September 2, 2021 5:47 PM|
The current obsession with true crime is fucking weird.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||September 2, 2021 5:58 PM|
I haven't watched the episode, but just from the trailer, Steve and Martin REALLY come across as a couple.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||September 2, 2021 7:20 PM|
I first saw Selena in A Rainy Day In New York and she was quite excellent. (A boring film by the way) If she's bad in this it was likely her director. I won't go on Hulu because they won't accept gift cards and It's not clear if they will ever stop charging your credit card.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||September 2, 2021 8:56 PM|
Hulu also accepts PayPal and Venmo.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||September 2, 2021 9:04 PM|
[quote]I won't go on Hulu because they won't accept gift cards and It's not clear if they will ever stop charging your credit card.
I use a credit card and cancelled Hulu for a good year or so without problems.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||September 3, 2021 12:46 PM|
Is Mabel supposed to be on drugs or unknowingly being drugged?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||September 3, 2021 12:53 PM|
R14 she's not bad, just mediocre. She should be on a sitcom instead of trying to be a pop star.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||September 3, 2021 4:29 PM|
I was so excited for this. (100% on Rotten Tomatoes) Unfortunately I was underwhelmed. One episode in and I decided to abort.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||September 3, 2021 5:28 PM|
I'm calling the TX Attorney General r19!
|by Anonymous||reply 20||September 3, 2021 5:31 PM|
R20 - Bravo my friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||September 3, 2021 5:39 PM|
Don't forget the attorney's fees r21!
I sure won't.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||September 3, 2021 7:28 PM|
I know the brave new world of subscriptions is confusing and scary for the elders, so a good rule of thumb is to always use PAYPAL. If Paypal supports the company, they are legitimate. Paypal generally sides with customers in any dispute, even if they're wrong. My netflix and hulu are through paypal. I also have never had an issue subscribing or quickly unsubscribing from any streaming service. You can sign up, the payment goes through, and then immediately cancel before you watch a single show and still get your 30 days. if you get a free 30 days, you can cancel immediately so you arent rebilled and still get your 30 days
|by Anonymous||reply 23||September 3, 2021 9:32 PM|
[quote]Paypal generally sides with customers in any dispute, even if they're wrong.
They don't, at least not anymore. I had Paypal side with an eBay seller when I got scammed, and with DoorDash when I didn't actually receive my order. I wouldn't be recommending people use Paypal to make things easier or reduce potential overcharges.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||September 4, 2021 11:57 AM|
show must be really compelling if we're talking about PayPal
|by Anonymous||reply 25||September 4, 2021 3:05 PM|
Get a prepaid credit card and use that.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||September 4, 2021 3:22 PM|
It's meh. Selena Gomez is a personality, not an actress. I can't believe they're still trying to make her happen. Too bad they didn't cast a real actress in the role.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||September 4, 2021 4:58 PM|
There was already another thread about this.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||September 4, 2021 10:55 PM|
What are you the fucking thread police? Get fucked.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||September 4, 2021 10:56 PM|
[quote] What are you the fucking thread police? Get fucked. [quote]
You have no right to talk to me that way. Maybe I am the thread police. Maybe I should detain you. How would you like that?
|by Anonymous||reply 30||September 4, 2021 11:16 PM|
Two threads on this show and folks at each directing people to the other one. I love DL
|by Anonymous||reply 31||September 5, 2021 1:29 PM|
It’s cute. I’m enjoying it. Woody Allen lite. Fun to see an old-ish NY without the Covid nightmare and hurricanes using a setting that’s a combo of the Apthorp and Ansonia buildings. Steve seems a bit checked out, and Selena is good one second and not the next. Martin is great, he seems really into it. I’ll follow through with it. It’s nice little slice of comfort cake.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||September 5, 2021 2:09 PM|
I’m enjoying this even more than White Lotus!
Steve Martin is 76 but I’d still fuck him.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||September 5, 2021 6:27 PM|
Selena Gomez reminds me of a young Madonna in that she's incapable of reading one line correctly.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||September 5, 2021 6:32 PM|
R34 that’s a problem with most millennial actresses
|by Anonymous||reply 35||September 5, 2021 8:42 PM|
The show meanders, as do so many nowadays or they roll at breakneck methhead speed.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||September 5, 2021 8:43 PM|
Can we talk about the episodes that have aired so far?
Charles makes omelettes for someone named Lucy and immediately throws them away, who is Lucy?
In episode 3, when Oliver talks about losing his family Charles says something like “it happens, believe me I know,” could Lucy be an ex-wife or daughter? More likely a daughter because a neighbor asks about her says to tell her hello.
Where is Mabel’s aunt?
Does anyone in Zoe’s family still live on the 11th floor?
Oliver lights the fireplace before he sits down to listen to the podcast despite there being a rule against using fireplaces.
Charles’ nose bleeds when he’s anxious remind me of Niles Crane’s nose bleeds when he lies, maybe Charles’ bleeding is cause by lying and not anxiety?
What’s going on with Nathan Lane’s son (I don’t remember his name)?
Given how long Charles & Oliver have lived in the building, do you think Mabel has been inside their apartments before? Did Mable & her friends steal from everyone or only certain people?
Charles moves the picture of Sting and puts it on top of another picture, who was in the picture he covered?
Tim was fired from an investment firm for losing a client a lot of money… Oliver?
Was the handwriting on the note on Oliver’s door the same as one of the “suicide notes” in the trash?
In the preview after episode 3 you can see tie dye hoodie guy has a mustache.
I like the Police and I like Sting’s music but I don’t like Sting.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||September 5, 2021 9:25 PM|
Glad they did the Steve Martin tv show flashback
|by Anonymous||reply 38||September 5, 2021 10:19 PM|
My theory: Steve Martin’s character is deranged and wants to relive his glory days so he commits the murder to lead the “investigation”
|by Anonymous||reply 39||September 5, 2021 10:23 PM|
I've watched through episode 3 and so far it's pretty good! The New York Who's Who's among the building tenants is hilarious.
I'm curious about who cocained the dog - he mentioned cocaine to another tenant in an earlier episode, didn't he?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||September 5, 2021 10:25 PM|
I'm curious about Nathan Lane's son too. They keep introducing these characters that all have something Different about them and it's pretty fun to find out.
Why was the murdered guy storing obviously stolen jewelry in the Hardy Boy's books?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||September 5, 2021 10:27 PM|
Also, Steve Martin's character said the cat guy was clearly acting when he fainted from the sight of blood, I wonder what's up with that :-o
|by Anonymous||reply 42||September 5, 2021 10:29 PM|
I'm really curious why they had Selena Gomez playing the Mysterious Woman and taking up so much screentime - she's not the best actress. Does she have lockjaw?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||September 5, 2021 10:30 PM|
Selena should be credited as ‘Dissociative Millennial Cunt’
|by Anonymous||reply 44||September 5, 2021 10:31 PM|
r4 they evoke a somewhat updated-mood version of the opening credits (sort of) for PBS's Mystery! series. Animated and flat.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||September 5, 2021 10:34 PM|
Is Selena botoxed and Lexapro’d? She’s so dead and non-emotive.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||September 5, 2021 10:34 PM|
Who is this mysterious Aunt of Selena's? Why do we never see construction people working in the apartment if it's being remodeled? And where is all the furniture?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||September 5, 2021 10:38 PM|
This show is a great example of how Millennials have no personality and Baby Boomers are still interesting
|by Anonymous||reply 48||September 5, 2021 10:42 PM|
Martin and Short have great chemistry together. They even do well with Gomez, despite her various issues.
I love Shorts' character's apartment decor - it's so elaborate and theatrical and cozy. Martins' is cold and functional and masculine, and Selena's is a barren mess, which are pretty good reflections of their characters.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||September 5, 2021 10:46 PM|
That was an electric fireplace in Martin's apartment. Maybe Lucy is Steve Martin's ex. He murdered her and told people she left him.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||September 5, 2021 10:48 PM|
Fun fact I found out from someone on the crew (don’t ask me who the murderer is because she won’t tell me):
In the third episode there’s a scene where Martin and Gomez’ character meet with the tenant whose cat just died. The actor playing the tenant had just recovered from a second bout with Covid and had tested negative so was no longer considered infectious. Gomez was still very uncomfortable being near him in a scene, though. So what happened was a photo double was hired to “play” the scene with Martin and Gomez when the camera was on them. As this was happening the actual actor sat in a cubicle thirty feet away with a monitor and would say his lines to them. When the camera turned around to the tenant character the actor stepped in and they used two photo doubles to play Martin and Gomez’ characters in the scene. They, of course, did the dialogue with him, not Martin and Gomez. If they’re ever in the same frame together that’s because they used a split screen (like the bit when the tenant fainted).
|by Anonymous||reply 51||September 5, 2021 10:48 PM|
Too bad Woody Allen is canceled, he would have excelled at directing this and probably pulled a decent performance out of Selena the wooden board.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||September 5, 2021 10:49 PM|
It does feel like a Woody Allen movie, but I think they're doing better than they would have with him directing. His films tend to get bogged down in character dialogue, whereas the dialogue in this one feels natural and not like you're watching a play.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||September 5, 2021 10:51 PM|
[quote]The actor playing the tenant had just recovered from a second bout with Covid
So we now know that the actor was a total whore!
|by Anonymous||reply 54||September 5, 2021 11:14 PM|
I just can't with Selena Gomez. She is talentless, her line reading are flat and she's a void of charisma. They needed to cast that role with an actress who can actually act.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||September 6, 2021 12:14 AM|
Can't believe that anyone is getting into this beyond the first episode which was somewhat amusing and promising. Second episode was boring and the third was outrageously awful. I'm old so Selena is new to me and I'm SHOCKED at how utterly charmless and amateurish she is. She doesn't seem to me to believe in the dialogue she's being asked to spout, so maybe she's not so stupid. But if she's what the kids love these days than maybe Beanie Feldstein IS the new Barbra Streisand.
Oh, but I do love the opening credits and wish the series had the wit and charm they have.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||September 6, 2021 12:29 AM|
I'm also very skeptical of these various "clues" some of you are chatting about. I'll be surprised if the solution to this has any logic or reason.
I believe the actor playing Nathan's son is actually deaf, as is his character, FWIW.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||September 6, 2021 12:32 AM|
I don't mind Gomez, I haven't seen her in anything else and for me, the way she's playing it fits perfectly of what you think of when you think Millennial.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||September 6, 2021 12:43 AM|
R56 ummm is that supposed to be a compliment to Beano?
From the Let’s Be The Mirror Has Two Faces Thread:
I'm the corny, unfunny dialog intended to make Barbra's character plucky, self-deprecating, endearing and adorable.
Hannah: "Why don't you wear some makeup?"
Rose: "What's the point? I'd still look like me, only in color."
|by Anonymous||reply 59||September 6, 2021 12:54 AM|
No, not a compliment. I guess I'm just saying I don't get what turns these millennials on.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||September 6, 2021 1:00 AM|
R60 being Borderline is what they like. Playing like they’re detached and cool, but ready to have a breakdown and become a histrionic victim at any moment. Empty vessels.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||September 6, 2021 1:04 AM|
Can't help compare but I just watched the first 2 episodes of GUILT tonight on PBS Masterpiece Mystery and it was a delightfully funny and suspenseful Scottish murder mystery with a darker edge (starring the fab Mark Bonnar!) that puts ONLY MURDERS... to shame. The Brits always do these series better IMHO. This one deserves its own thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||September 6, 2021 4:23 AM|
The Brits are fantastic at crime drama.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||September 6, 2021 4:25 AM|
They should replace Gomez with Jackie Hoffman and rewrite the last 5 episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||September 6, 2021 4:48 AM|
[quote]Steve seems a bit checked out, and Selena is good one second and not the next. Martin is great, he seems really into it.
Selena is a Disney starlet and it shows. That's all she can do. Steve is also not putting in the best performance at times. Given how sloppy the continuity is with wardrobe, hair and makeup, I think this was shot a bit too quickly. Martin Short however is absolutely sensational and I'm going to be angry if he doesn't get nominated for SOMETHING for this.
Overall it's so inoffensive that I cannot figure out how anyone can be violently angry about this series like at least one person apparently is, but I guess some Dataloungers will always find a way to get murderously unhinged over nothing.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||September 6, 2021 7:35 AM|
I'm enjoying it so far!
|by Anonymous||reply 66||September 6, 2021 10:04 AM|
[Quote] Is Selena botoxed and Lexapro’d? She’s so dead and non-emotive.
She's been fucking with her face for years. And she's a drug addict. But if you ask Selena it's because of her lupus and the fact that she's bipolar.
[Quote] Too bad Woody Allen is canceled, he would have excelled at directing this and probably pulled a decent performance out of Selena the wooden board.
Selena's worked with Woody before. Don't know if she was any good though.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||September 6, 2021 11:40 AM|
R67 I made a very disparaging remark about Selena’s acting on the very first trailer that came out of Umbrellas in New York or whatever that film is called, and years later every few weeks I get a Selena Superfan telling me the fuck off for saying she’s a terrible actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||September 6, 2021 12:34 PM|
R68 lucky you 😆 Hope you told them to fuck off.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||September 6, 2021 12:45 PM|
The audience for this is too old to know who the fuck Selena Gomez is.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||September 6, 2021 4:31 PM|
Selena Gomez - beautiful gowns.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||September 6, 2021 4:35 PM|
Steve Martin and Martin Short were on Bill Maher a few weeks ago (sans Selena...quelle surprise) and they were all waxing sentimental about the current dearth of good comedy duos à la Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello, Nichols and May et. al. and said that this show is an attempt to revive that tradition. I agree with them to some extent, but Selena doesn't have any comic instincts or training, so we just get an awkward trio that never takes off. Even on Bill Maher all they could say about her was that she introduced them to current pop culture/social media trends of which they'd otherwise be unaware. Her casting thus strikes me as cynical because you know Hulu execs told them they needed someone young, preferably a woman, who is somehow "of color" (even if it just means being tan or having ethnic grandparents) to garner an audience. I get that Martin and Short on their own wouldn't attract a demographic interesting to advertisers, but Gomez just does not add anything to the proceedings.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||September 6, 2021 5:03 PM|
It would been much better with just Short and Martin, but yes they needed a young person for the demographic they wanted to attract.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||September 6, 2021 5:08 PM|
Rosie Perez would find the laughs in that role even if she's too old for the HULU demographic.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||September 6, 2021 5:13 PM|
At this point Selena has done extensive TV and film, as I like to point out Beezus was NOT Latina, how is it that she’s still such an awkward actress looking like it’s her first time? Hell, even Addison Rae did better first time out leading a movie?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||September 6, 2021 5:21 PM|
It's not just that she's awkward, she comes off as being very disinterested, like she's slumming and would rather be anywhere else.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||September 6, 2021 5:27 PM|
r70 hardly, it's for Millennials, Gen Xers, and Boomers, but not Gen Z because they smell
|by Anonymous||reply 77||September 6, 2021 8:39 PM|
r72 We said Duos, not Trios!
|by Anonymous||reply 78||September 6, 2021 8:39 PM|
Gen Xers are too old for Selena Gomez.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||September 6, 2021 9:07 PM|
Luckily there's two other main actors in the show!
|by Anonymous||reply 80||September 6, 2021 9:08 PM|
The "disinterested" part is obviously on purpose, she's supposed to be sullen and uncooperative. She's just not a great actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||September 7, 2021 2:09 AM|
That smell is new...
|by Anonymous||reply 82||September 7, 2021 2:30 AM|
I just can't with the brutal cat humor. I know objectively it's funny but as a cat owner I get very sensitive about that. I know it's kind of MARY! of me but as soon as he opened the freezer I knew what he would he looking at and covered my eyes for the next minute while that all played out.
The cat foot caught me off guard 🤢🥺
|by Anonymous||reply 83||September 7, 2021 3:39 AM|
Plus, the frozen cat wasn't remotely funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||September 7, 2021 4:48 AM|
I laughed so hard at the frozen cat I was crying
|by Anonymous||reply 85||September 7, 2021 7:33 AM|
I didn’t know Warner Brothers had a cruise line?
|by Anonymous||reply 86||September 7, 2021 5:07 PM|
One would have hoped Sting had squeezed in some acting lessons since Dune, but I guess not.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||September 7, 2021 5:08 PM|
The cat owner is hysterically funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||September 7, 2021 5:10 PM|
r87 Sting was hot in Dune, and that's about all I remember of his acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||September 7, 2021 6:04 PM|
Oliver 100% poisoned his own dog. He's a sick man!
|by Anonymous||reply 90||September 7, 2021 6:55 PM|
The bassoonist is homely and a bore. I can't understand why Martin's character is so infatuated with her.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||September 7, 2021 9:20 PM|
Oliver's son looks nothing like him, even if he's biracial. Oliver's wig changes with each scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||September 7, 2021 9:23 PM|
Oliver took the cat’s leg out of Charles’ hand when they were sitting in the couch in Oliver’s apartment, what did Oliver do with it? Maybe the cat really was poisoned and Oliver’s dog at her leg and got sick?
|by Anonymous||reply 93||September 7, 2021 10:20 PM|
What the hell does the title mean?
|by Anonymous||reply 94||September 7, 2021 10:32 PM|
It's the title of the trio's podcast because they only investigate murders in the Arconia.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||September 7, 2021 10:37 PM|
Don't new episodes drop today? Has no one watched them?
I'm reluctant to waste more time on this series.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||September 8, 2021 1:11 AM|
It's one episode released each week now.
E04: Martin Short called his son about his poisoned dog--the son is a vet. The dog is fine. Steve Martin goes on a date with Amy Ryan. He lies to her about his romantic past, she is aware of it, the date ends badly. He eventually tells her the truth: he had a live-in girlfriend of several years (Emma) who had a young daughter that he doted on (Lucy). He made Lucy an omelette every morning. They broke up after a Caribbean cruise, a story that sounded like total BS, but Amy Ryan bought it. They are going to have a second date. Martin Short, Steve Martin and Selena Gomez visit Sting because they think he's a suspect in the dog poisoning and the murder. Sting says that he confronted Tim Kono over money that Tim had lost/misinvested and he apparently told him to kill himself. Sting has felt guilty since that is apparently what TK actually did. The trio tell him that they believe Tim was murdered and Sting is relieved. They don't consider him a suspect anymore.
The episode ends with Martin Short's vet son telling him that Selena was friends with Tim Kono and is bad news. Selena is shown walking down the street and the guy in the tie-dye hoodie is following her.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||September 8, 2021 1:33 AM|
Seriously we don't need the spoilers :-o The new episode JUST came out.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||September 8, 2021 2:09 AM|
This episode was fun, but I wish I had just waited and binged the whole thing. I don’t like waiting a week to see what happens next.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||September 8, 2021 2:45 AM|
Episode 4 was the best so far, mainly because Gomez's role was diminished.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||September 8, 2021 3:11 AM|
Tina Fey also appeared in this episode. She's the top dog podcaster who nudged the trio in Sting's direction.
Also, Steve Martin's character hallucinated a lot. Something's not right with that man.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||September 8, 2021 4:51 AM|
I’m no Selena fan but think she’s doing fine. I like this weird unlikely trio. The fondness Steve Martin’s character has for her was explained in this episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||September 9, 2021 3:16 PM|
Early on Selena said that they were the Hardy Boys, is it possible instead of being the girl from that group she was the other boy and is Trans and came back as a boy, you know like “Come to the Five and Dime Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean? That would explain her masculine looking puffy face? I’m assuming she looks that way from the steroids and anti rejection drugs she needs to take, but then if it works for the role, why not?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||September 9, 2021 5:40 PM|
r101 Tina Fey was in the first episode, too!
|by Anonymous||reply 104||September 10, 2021 6:30 PM|
r103 the other boy from the group was the super's son, who was in prison and who just got released.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||September 10, 2021 6:31 PM|
[quote]Oliver's wig changes with each scene.
I'm only on the third episode so I'm skipping some posts here to avoid spoilers, but wanted to say that even though the performances are really improving, whoever is doing the hair on this show needs HELP. In the third episode Selena's hair is five inches longer when she's in Howard's apartment than it is in the rest of the show. Maybe her curls just fell, but it was really obvious.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||September 11, 2021 9:09 AM|
Don't think so r103, we've seen flashbacks and her screen saver.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||September 11, 2021 9:10 AM|
Not only Selena's hair length, but there's just a general sloppiness and carelessness to the way this thing was produced and shot. I imagine the Covid restrictions didn't make it any easier.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||September 11, 2021 2:04 PM|
I'm finding I have no interest in going back and watching the new episodes (I've watched the first 3). There are no posts here encouraging me either,
|by Anonymous||reply 109||September 11, 2021 2:05 PM|
Just realized who would have been better in the Selena Gomez role: Zendaya. She’s the only actress that age that has the presence to compete with the other two.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||September 11, 2021 2:09 PM|
Worth watching Steve Martin and Martin Short. They look like they had fun doing it.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||September 11, 2021 2:13 PM|
Was that really Tina Fey or a someone doing a bad impression of her? Either way, I was not impressed. I’d rather have more Jackie Hoffman. She better get a good dramatic arc on this show.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||September 11, 2021 2:55 PM|
That was Tina Fey.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||September 11, 2021 2:56 PM|
Tina Fey has aged in dog years...
|by Anonymous||reply 114||September 11, 2021 6:43 PM|
It has a very white, straight male twee tone reminiscent of Wes Anderson, but not as insufferable. It's fine but feels extremely unrealistic.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||September 11, 2021 6:57 PM|
I’m kind of hoping one of the three gets killed before the end, that would add an original twist to this tale, which is much needed, and would be a dark twist undermining the humor.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||September 11, 2021 7:03 PM|
Martin Short should finally get that facelift that he's been asked about for at least a decade.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||September 11, 2021 7:04 PM|
I know he was married to a woman and all…but are we sure Martin Short is straight???
|by Anonymous||reply 118||September 11, 2021 7:10 PM|
I thought we might find out that Oliver wasn't straight, but after the flashback in the 3rd episode, I think he is.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||September 11, 2021 7:19 PM|
[quote]I'm finding I have no interest in going back and watching the new episodes (I've watched the first 3). There are no posts here encouraging me either,
People are talking more about the actor's appearances than they are about the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||September 11, 2021 8:37 PM|
Martin Short has played a swishy straight man in every performance I've seen.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||September 11, 2021 8:51 PM|
[quote]It has a very white, straight male twee tone
Are you familiar with the UWS?
|by Anonymous||reply 122||September 11, 2021 9:57 PM|
Just speaking for myself, I'm only talking about appearances and surface-level things because I don't want to give away any spoilers, and I don't want to GET any spoilers, I'm only on the third episode. I'm trying to space these episodes out. I wish they were released more often, this is a very binge-able show.
It's also not really my job to make people want to watch the show. I really like it, but I'm also tired of every thread on DL turning into a fight, so if a dozen people want to scream about how the show sucks and Selena is history's greatest monster, I'm not gonna bother responding.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||September 12, 2021 10:10 AM|
Here’s a theory I just saw on Reddit:
[quote][bold]Zoe’s Ring & The Dimas Style[/bold]
[quote]The ring is an emerald, very large carat size, and fits on Zoe’s index finger, meaning it was likely made for someone with larger hands than her. So who could be its rightful owner? Let’s look at people’s personal style.
[quote]Otherwise, there is a noticeable lack of rings on the female characters.
[quote]Teddy Dimas is shown wearing multiple rings both in 2005 and in the present day. He has two, on his right ring finger and pinky, in the Splash flashback. In the present day, he wears one on his right pinky and left ring finger. All of these rings are pretty large. I didn’t notice any other male characters with rings, except Oliver with a wedding band in the flashback.
[quote]Additonally, the Dimas apartment color scheme is green + metallic. The logo for their company has green. And, side note, is there a bunch of oranges in that apartment too? (Godfather reference)
[quote]So stylistically, of the characters shown so far, it seems that the most plausible origin for the ring is the Dimas family. My personal theory is it belonged to Teddy’s wife (it is a style of ring Teddy would choose but still small enough to fit on Zoe at all). Theo, at the party, saw Zoe wearing it and became upset, causing the confrontation Tim saw. And since he is deaf, it could have started with a communication gap between them.
[quote]Seems like he can wear a big ring on his pinky, so theoretically Zoe’s ring could be his.
[quote]Teddy has been my guess for Tim’s killer as Nathan Lane isn’t just there for the paycheck or as a favor, he is going to get to shine AND I buy that Tim was poisoned potentially by takeout food from Dimas Deli. That said, I totally missed these visual cues.
[quote]Ooh, that could also explain how Evelyn (Evelyn? -the cat; what’s-her-name) was killed - there was leftover poisoned food from the Deli, & Evelyn came in (after Tim’s murder) & ate it.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||September 13, 2021 12:12 AM|
[quote]I hope the twist is that the detective was right, it was a textbook suicide. But because of all their melding, they got tie dye guy actually murdered (but not by Mabel).
[quote]we may be able to get the best of both worlds--the mystery of Zoe's murder (assuming it wasn't an accident) and a suicide ending. Also, I think the whole "Tim was poisoned before he was shot" idea is a really interesting one, it could have been attempted murder that ended in suicide.
[quote]I think its suicide but the three have stumbled onto something big that did involve Tim Kono
[quote]When Mabel confronts Tim at his apartment, present day, and they get into the argument where he tells her to act like she doesn’t know him his body language as she walks away doesn’t look angry it looks worried and sad. I think he was trying to protect her from something or someone. Maybe Mabel was right all these years to have faith in Tim and he really was afraid of someone.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||September 13, 2021 12:15 AM|
I’m sorry, but that was ridiculous having them head towards the George Washington Bridge by driving through Central Park and taking the FDR, and even the most casual New Yorker would know that. They are on the west side already, they wouldn’t have traveled east. It only made sense in that they could then easily switch to the new location of Long Island. If it would have been a minute scene it might have been OK, but they spent so much time during the episode on the firsts part of the drive.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||September 14, 2021 5:21 PM|
I like the new actor they added, he seems to have a spark and heart. Short really is the MVP in this, which is interesting, usually he does short sketches better, but he’s really been great at sustaining a long term character and growing that personality in completely believable ways, even when it’s ridiculous. Like you can completely believe he’d keep a car, yet not have a license.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||September 14, 2021 5:25 PM|
Have to admit, I’m surprised this came so early, right now I’m up in the air about another season, but maybe the end really sticks the landing or Martin is strong producer to secure this.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||September 14, 2021 6:08 PM|
What does the title mean?
It is unwieldy.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||September 14, 2021 8:52 PM|
R129, it means the three “detectives” will only investigate murders in the apartment building they live in. It’s also the title of the podcast they’re involved in.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||September 14, 2021 8:54 PM|
[quote]R91 The bassoonist is homely and a bore. I can't understand why Martin's character is so infatuated with her.
That actress’ name is Amy Ryan. She’s not glamorous, but she does classy projects.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||September 14, 2021 9:15 PM|
I liked her on “In Treatment.”
|by Anonymous||reply 132||September 14, 2021 9:22 PM|
Episode 5 taught me pressing your thumb against the roof of your mouth stops brain freeze.
I wish we didn’t have to wait a week for episode 6, I hope they finally show how Theo Dimas relates to all of this and give us more details about things that happened in 2010 when Charles was on prednisone.
Charles doesn’t remember Zoe’s murder because of the prednisone, could he have met Mable in 2010 and just doesn’t remember that either?
Knowing that I Lucien & Vaughn (the horticulture podcast guys) know Cinda Canning suggests this wasn’t just a one-off appearance.
Was Oscar cheating on Zoe with Mabel or was that wishful thinking?
[quote]You're lying to your boyfriend 'cause you feel like even the way you're thinking about me is cheating?
There is a couple kissing in the dark during one of the full season previews and it’s clearly not Charles or Oliver.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||September 14, 2021 9:52 PM|
Sorry, Mable should be Mabel ^
|by Anonymous||reply 134||September 14, 2021 9:54 PM|
I love the show, but not gonna lie the dead cat has me triggered. :(
|by Anonymous||reply 135||September 15, 2021 5:01 PM|
Just binged this. I agree that Martin Short is fantastic, he is carrying this on his shoulders. They could have cast someone stronger than Selena Gomez, she isn't terrible, but there are other twenty somethings that could do so much more with this role.
This isn't anything great, but it is a pleasant watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||September 16, 2021 1:09 AM|
[quote]What does the title mean?
In the first episode, Martin Short mentions that there was a murder committed in Central Park that the trio should consider investigating for their podcast. Steve Martin's character exclaims, "only murders in the building!"
Selena isn't bringing anything interesting to the role. Someone else would have been better. She's very wooden at times and talks as though she's clenching her jaw.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||September 16, 2021 1:53 AM|
Imagine a young Marisa Tomei in this.
Would have totally killed it, stolen the show, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||September 16, 2021 1:57 AM|
I agree with the person who said it should’ve been Zendaya. They should kill Mabel and bring her in as the new main character to replace her.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||September 16, 2021 2:42 AM|
Sarah Steele would have been hilarious in Gomez’ re if this was done five years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||September 16, 2021 8:10 PM|
Is there another thread for this show? Or is nobody watching?
|by Anonymous||reply 141||September 19, 2021 5:58 PM|
Why is Selena talking like she has marshmallows in her mouth?
Someone should cast her in an Anna Nicole Smith biopic, btw - their faces are very similar!
|by Anonymous||reply 142||September 20, 2021 12:20 AM|
[quote]Is there another thread for this show? Or is nobody watching?
I have given up on trying to get people to talk about something other than complaining about Selena and stick with Reddit.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||September 20, 2021 12:35 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 144||September 20, 2021 12:47 AM|
R142 Does the Reddit keep them from saying bad things about Selena?
|by Anonymous||reply 145||September 20, 2021 12:58 AM|
It’s a cute show and a nice break from all the somber shows I’ve been watching lately
|by Anonymous||reply 146||September 20, 2021 1:01 AM|
I’m watching it now. I was having problems with my Roku months ago and accidentally turned on the Roku robot voice. It’s female. It drives me crazy. I can’t figure out how to turn it off.
Selena Gomez in this show sounds exactly like the annoying Roku robo voice. I want to murder her. How is she an employable actor?
The show is annoying. Everything about it. The look, eg, doesn’t look anything like Manhattan. Sure, they do outdoor shots with the iconic Freedom Tower in the distance. But the interior shots just don’t look like NY. They’re like an “It’s Complicated” version of NY, where everything is perfect and clean and everyone is dressed fantastically and has great jobs, interesting lives and is some kind of formulaic stereotype with a “kooky” trait. It’s sterile, has no spark and doesn’t remotely resemble anything real. And Martin Short is reminding me of Bob Durst
|by Anonymous||reply 147||September 20, 2021 2:10 AM|
r143 Selena is a giant turd on this show of course people are going to talk about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||September 20, 2021 2:12 AM|
Let’s hope Selena’s character makes a sacrifice at the end and dies protecting someone and they just continue with the hot jailbird actor a s the third lead.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||September 20, 2021 2:18 AM|
Martin Short surely can't actually be straight? Being married with kids doesn't actually mean he's straight (and the kids were adopted).
|by Anonymous||reply 150||September 20, 2021 8:46 AM|
I do not get the Selena hate here. She actually behaves onscreen like a recognizable human being.
Short and Martin cannot act. With every episode their performances move further and further into sketch comedy.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||September 20, 2021 12:38 PM|
[Quote] Someone should cast her in an Anna Nicole Smith biopic, btw - their faces are very similar!
That would be an absolute trainwreck. Lifetime or bust lol
|by Anonymous||reply 152||September 20, 2021 1:47 PM|
I'm only familiar with Selena in Woody Allen's 'A Rainy Day in New York' and I thought her performance was seamless. But that might have been because of her director. If she's not good in this (I've only seen clips) it had to be because of the way she was directed. Directors do more than tell an actor where to stand.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||September 20, 2021 2:14 PM|
[Quote]where everything is perfect and clean and everyone is dressed fantastically and has great jobs
It does take place in a expensive co-op in the UWS, so of course the people have to be wealthy r147.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||September 20, 2021 2:19 PM|
R153 you just reminded me of the blind item about Selena sleeping with Woody for that role...
|by Anonymous||reply 155||September 20, 2021 2:26 PM|
I HATE Martin Short's schtick whenever I see him on talk shows and stuff, but he's pretty funny on this show.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||September 20, 2021 6:32 PM|
Selena is a better fit for Barney & Friends. The three were on Steven Colbert recently, the old codgers trying to make Selena happen, but she was awkward and stiff. Very weird interview that put me off actually watching the series.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||September 20, 2021 6:57 PM|
Selena has an executive producer credit on this show which can mean just about anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||September 21, 2021 12:07 AM|
IMBD and Reddit are full of phony reviews. They all gush over Selena Gomez’s marbly monotone and parkinsonian face as “a flawless performance.” Reddit is rather hilarious for 2 seconds before you have to close it in disgust.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||September 21, 2021 12:25 AM|
I don’t think they’re phony, just Selena Gomez stans.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||September 21, 2021 12:27 AM|
Deeply flawed more like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||September 21, 2021 12:27 AM|
So Gabby and Brian went to Bayport Long Island high school, coincidence, maybe not?
|by Anonymous||reply 162||September 21, 2021 12:29 AM|
Is still don’t understand, they have a comic genius like Jackie Hoffman on your show and other then a few background scenes you don’t use her?
|by Anonymous||reply 163||September 21, 2021 3:07 PM|
They missed the opportunity for a big joke there- Nathan’s grandmother’s secret account for giving out money could have been called the Ya-Ya Sisterhood.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||September 21, 2021 3:10 PM|
Jimmy Fallon is a complete whore and will do anything for a paycheck.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||September 21, 2021 3:11 PM|
Is Lorne Michaels producing this, why are there so many Saturday Night Live people on this? Thankfully that loud Black lady that was most recently fired didn’t play the cop. Was Steve Martin ever a host after the first initial run, I can’t think of him being on the show after Gilda left?
|by Anonymous||reply 166||September 21, 2021 3:13 PM|
If two of the four “Hardy Boys” are dead, one in the last week, shouldn’t the other two be worried about their safety?
|by Anonymous||reply 167||September 21, 2021 3:19 PM|
Nah, they’ll be too busy fucking.
No Amy Ryan in this last episode so that was good.
I liked whoever played Mabel’s mama.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||September 26, 2021 5:30 AM|
Ep 6 was a snoozer. After two slow episodes in a row, we are losing faith in the show, which started with good pace and lots of frequent New York humor.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||September 26, 2021 11:50 AM|
I don’t mind Selena Gomez in this. She plays the straight man to the wackiness of the other two. Too much personality would make it unbalanced
|by Anonymous||reply 170||September 26, 2021 1:47 PM|
I agree r169. Show is starting to lose me, recent eps haven't been as entertaining.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||September 26, 2021 2:49 PM|
Agree recent eps haven't been great. The actual murder plot isn't very interesting. They need to get back to the building and the New York types like Jackie Hoffman who live there. In fact, she should be the murderer. Half of the show for me is the apartment porn . I still like the show and hope they return to form in season 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||September 26, 2021 3:04 PM|
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I like this show because it's a fun and light-hearted way to spend 30 minutes. I think I will like it even more once it's finished and I can binge the episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||September 26, 2021 3:55 PM|
The show was at its best when they showcased the eccentrics who live in the building. Don’t give a damn about Mabel’s boring mother.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||September 26, 2021 5:21 PM|
She’s only in this episode, R174, lighten up.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||September 26, 2021 9:16 PM|
This is the first time I've seen Selena Gomez in anything. I like her.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||September 28, 2021 3:38 AM|
She was in a Paul Rudd comedy essentially playing the same character.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||September 28, 2021 4:12 AM|
Ugh, in these PC times making a plot device out of someone’s disability and then making them the villian is pretty cringe.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||September 28, 2021 10:27 AM|
Are murder walls real things police use or is that just a visual device invented by Hollywood?
|by Anonymous||reply 179||September 28, 2021 10:28 AM|
I wish most of the additional cast were primarily NY stage actors like Nathan Lane and Jackie Hoffman, and they gave Jackie more to do. Maybe they can make her more front and center next season. Perhaps she becomes a competing Miss Marplesque crime podcaster? Nathan has a handsome head of hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||September 28, 2021 10:32 AM|
Jackie can only look sour and toss off nasty asides. She’s fun when she does that (in very small doses) but I wouldn’t expect anything more.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||September 28, 2021 4:21 PM|
Does this mean that Steve Martin was a fan of “Herman’s Head”?
|by Anonymous||reply 182||September 28, 2021 5:36 PM|
That escalated fast. Wow
|by Anonymous||reply 183||September 28, 2021 6:24 PM|
That opening 5 minutes though. Great TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||September 28, 2021 10:32 PM|
[quote]Ugh, in these PC times making a plot device out of someone’s disability and then making them the villian is pretty cringe.
Zoe was an accident. Yes, he is a villain but he isn't the mastermind (that we know of), he's his father's puppet.
Also, the actor is deaf and the episode was from Theo's perspective.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||September 28, 2021 11:20 PM|
This episode was kind of creepy. How many episodes are there going to be?
|by Anonymous||reply 186||September 29, 2021 2:02 AM|
I kinda wish I didn’t read the Reddit theories, because that spoiled the mystery for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||September 29, 2021 2:17 AM|
I'm watching the episodes on 1.5x and they still feel long.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||September 29, 2021 2:34 AM|
I’m fast forwarding through anything Amy Ryan is in. She’s not a bad actress but this thing with her and Steve Martin’s character is ridiculous and also boring as hell.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||September 29, 2021 2:35 AM|
Amy Ryan is no beauty or spring chicken but she's 23 years younger than Martin. Kinda gross. I guess Betty White wasn't available?
|by Anonymous||reply 190||September 29, 2021 2:40 AM|
Even though she's 23 years younger than Martin she look his age or older. There are 10 episodes total.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||September 29, 2021 2:43 AM|
I really enjoyed the last episode. Alot was explained and it moved along at a great pace.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||September 29, 2021 7:30 PM|
I've never seen (or recall) Amy Ryan in anything else. In fact when you all were talking about Amy Ryan, my brain kept thinking you were mentioning Amy Adams. So every episode I was looking for Amy Adams.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||September 29, 2021 7:32 PM|
Amy Ryan was fantastic as a lowlife in the Boston-set Gone Baby Gone. She’s worked a lot over the years but lacks whatever it takes to become a star.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||September 29, 2021 7:43 PM|
I believe that's called "Star Quality"
|by Anonymous||reply 195||September 29, 2021 7:55 PM|
Amy Ryan played the woman who stole Michael Scott’s heart on The Office and took him away from the show. The audience knew it was true love and not lust on his part because she is neither beautiful nor sexy.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||September 29, 2021 8:28 PM|
I'm surprised they pulled off the no talking for pretty much all of episode seven. Very "Hush" (Buffy The Vampire Slayer). Nice reveal, even though it was figured out early on by Reddit posters.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||September 30, 2021 1:41 PM|
I have trouble watching no talking shows (and subtitles) because I tend do something else while I watch tv.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||October 1, 2021 12:26 AM|
Yeah it was an interesting idea but honestly didn't need to be the entire episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||October 1, 2021 2:37 AM|
All I know is that the final episode will end with Steve Martin making Selena Gomez an omlet. Maybe Amy Ryan, but he will be making someone an omlet.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||October 2, 2021 5:35 AM|
Dang. Twist at episode eight.
But then, Only Murder in the Building is about two murders (or one murder and an accidental manslaughter and its cover up).
|by Anonymous||reply 201||October 5, 2021 10:35 AM|
Surprised there isn’t more discussion on this. I found this weeks episode….frustrating. So much going on. It seemed like nobody took a second to think. This could have been two episodes. It was all rushed.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||October 5, 2021 3:47 PM|
Honestly, I was into this show for the first couple episodes but I’ve totally lost interest.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||October 6, 2021 11:48 AM|
Given that the episodes are only about half an hour it's a rather quick binge to catch up on. I binged on another show the last few weeks and was up to speed with OMitB in less than two hours.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||October 6, 2021 11:50 AM|
The last episode did confuse me. I thought they already knew about the poison? It was off to me that it wasn’t brought up in that group meeting.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||October 6, 2021 12:13 PM|
r205, the inner circle was so focussed on the Dimas family that they lost the plot so-to-speak. Oliver even mentions it when he brings the fans along to help them see something they might have overlooked, but hisses at Jan when she dares to open her mouth.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||October 6, 2021 4:47 PM|
I enjoy the show. The episodes are short, the old guard are great.
Gomez though is a very mediocre actress. Her speaking voice is unbearable, and the total lack of diction inexcusable.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||October 6, 2021 5:09 PM|
Did Oliver's dog ever drink any of the Gut Milk? Was there any evidence that Tim had Gut Milk in his possession?
Gut Milk has to play some part as it is mentioned in just about every episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||October 7, 2021 1:58 AM|
So who poisoned Tim Kono? This is very confusing.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||October 7, 2021 2:02 AM|
It does seem like it’s coming together at the seams.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||October 7, 2021 2:04 AM|
Maybe Jan took Tim some (dry) pizza rolls?
This show paints the NYPD in a hilariously inept light, and I'm not mad about it. They've bungled the whole thing since minute one.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||October 7, 2021 3:06 AM|
Why would they put out the podcast without getting all the facts if they knew that if they were wrong (or even if they were right) it would paint a target on the backs?
|by Anonymous||reply 212||October 7, 2021 5:06 AM|
R212 yeah seems like they are setting themselves up for a huge lawsuit without a whole lot of caveats and “allegedly”s
|by Anonymous||reply 213||October 7, 2021 12:00 PM|
It's a TV show, not real life, folks.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||October 7, 2021 1:50 PM|
Amy Ryan isn't getting an omlet now.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||October 7, 2021 4:24 PM|
The super's son should be the murderer. He has the most obvious motive and knew Jan was on to something. But I'm sure they won't go there. I like the show when they're in the building.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||October 7, 2021 4:31 PM|
I never trusted Jan.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||October 7, 2021 10:56 PM|
Yeah, she kept pushing the dead cat guy as the suspect. Anc her pizza rolls were dry as fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||October 8, 2021 12:35 AM|
There are theories for almost every character on Reddit. It’s interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||October 8, 2021 1:29 AM|
I enjoyed Tony winner Ali Stroker as the fan in the wheelchair.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||October 8, 2021 2:51 PM|
She’s always going to be the fan in the wheelchair.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||October 8, 2021 3:18 PM|
The fans in front tried to cover as many minorities as possible: Asian, wheelchair, old. Did they have a Black guy?
|by Anonymous||reply 222||October 8, 2021 5:15 PM|
The kid was certainly POC but not black.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||October 8, 2021 6:03 PM|
The young POC guy, Jaboukie Young-White, is black.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||October 8, 2021 9:20 PM|
I think horndog Oscar is closeted bi and secretly dating/fucking Howard, AKA his sugar daddy (the first murderer). Howard poisoned Tim Kono (who he already despised) because he found out Oscar had a thing with him as well and he was jealous. Evelyn followed him into the room, and accidentally consumed the poison, which freaked him out so he hid Evelyn in the freezer thinking no one would find her and test her for poison.
Howard told Oscar what he did, so Oscar took the opportunity to run up to collect the jewelry. But when he heard the gunshot (from the second “murderer”) he ran.
Jan pointing out Howard triggered Oscar and so he killed her (or he informed Howard who killed her).
|by Anonymous||reply 225||October 8, 2021 10:40 PM|
This was crying out for a better actress than Gomez. IF they had got that right it would've been much better, although she does have some chemistry with the two older leads. Being in the podcasting game, I did find it odd that Oliver was supposed to be a bumbling technophobe who still manged to string together and publish a podcast from random recordings made on hos phone. Also, Steve Martin's apartment was way too nice to match his character.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||October 8, 2021 10:47 PM|
Gomez is an executive producer on the show, so I don't think they could have gotten another actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||October 10, 2021 3:53 PM|
R227, she was made an executive producer after she was already cast. This kind of thing happens all the time now. It’s not a power position, more of a figurehead with percentage points.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||October 10, 2021 6:00 PM|
Yeah, it was probably negotiated with her salary.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||October 10, 2021 6:22 PM|
Gomez is branching her career out. She’s producing here. I walked by a Sephora yesterday and saw she has a line of cosmetics.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||October 10, 2021 7:41 PM|
Selena Gomez was also a co-producer of 13 Reasons Why without playing any role in it.
She is doing stuff behind the camera and has business ventures outside Hollywood.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||October 10, 2021 8:19 PM|
Isn’t she the one who got a kidney transplant?
|by Anonymous||reply 232||October 10, 2021 10:29 PM|
R230 Rare Beauty has been out for a while now. Rumour is she started it to pay back her record label.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||October 11, 2021 12:21 PM|
Wow. The show is good at throwing you some amazing curve balls. Jane Lynch? A female love interest of Charles leaving him for a woman? And later leaving that woman for a man? Wow. Of course, the twist at the end of the latest episode was kind of foreshadowed the moment Jan got stabbed. It's a common trope for a murderer to throw off suspicion by staging an attack on himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||October 12, 2021 12:10 PM|
I wonder if that was a subtle jab at Anne Heche leaving Steve Martin for Ellen, then leaving her for a man.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||October 12, 2021 12:18 PM|
I don't know if that has been mentioned before, but during the opening credits. Doesn't the woman in the final window look like Bea Arthur?
|by Anonymous||reply 236||October 12, 2021 12:44 PM|
I thought this was going to be the finale, but I guess there’s at least one more? It’s beginning to feel like a Ryan Murphy show, falling apart plot wise in the late episodes and going over the top to hide try an hide it.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||October 12, 2021 3:48 PM|
Why did Jan poison and shoot Tim Kono?
|by Anonymous||reply 238||October 12, 2021 5:52 PM|
Tim Kono hated noise and Jan played that fucking bassoon every night. Perhaps she only did the poisoning and someone else did the shooting?
|by Anonymous||reply 239||October 12, 2021 8:49 PM|
One Reddit theory/conversation:
[quote]Jan, as we saw throughout the ep, has issues with being second. My theory is that the prodigy bassoonist was Tim’s girlfriend as we see her new boyfriend and he’s Asian so obviously that is her type. Jan hates being second so she tried to poison the prodigy as we know there were two people at Tim’s place that night and instead of getting the bassoonist she got Tim. That explains the bassoon cleaner being in the apartment and then why there were two glasses from the night of the murder. The motive is there but that would explain the shot to the head. Sorry if this was already said before but I just watched the episode. Let me know what you think!
[quote]If Jan tried to poison the prodigy bassoonist, it was because she was jealous of her taking her place in the symphony, not because she had a thing for Tim. Tim may have accidentally ingested what was meant for the girl (this is assuming that Tim and the prodigy were together). But then, where was the girl when Tim was shot? And I have questions about the timing - in the elevator, Tim says it will be 12 minutes until he is killed. Does that mean 12 minutes until he is poisoned or 12 minutes until he is shot? If it was 12 minutes until he was poisoned (which is the actual cause of death) then someone could have been waiting for him in his apartment, known or unknown to him. Death from poisoning doesn't happen instantaneously - it takes several minutes at least. But we also hear the sound of the gunshot when Oscar stands in front of the door with the alarm still going off. Which means there wasn't all that much time between the poisoning and the gunshot. So, now I'm thinking it was one person who did both, but I don't think it's Jan. Mainly because her secrets seem pretty understandable and there is a pattern so far in the series to portray secrets that seem more sinister than they end up being. People lie for all kinds of reasons.
[quote]There's no evidence Tim knew her. It's more likely he had a thing with Jan. They live in the same building, and he got on the elevator on floor 6. A girl that young drinking bourbon? I think Jan is more likely to drink that.
[quote]Jan would also fit Sazz's theory that the suicide notes in the garbage bag from floor 6 belonged to Tim's lover and that the notes talked about how lonely they were. Tim could've stolen Jan's trash, or maybe the therapist's (both on floor 6), if Jan was seeing the therapist and he had her journal her feelings. Interesting that Jan is never in the frame while Sazz is talking about the lover's motive and premeditation. The next time we see her is only when Charles goes to her and hurts her by accident while saying they were in a passionate relationship.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||October 12, 2021 8:57 PM|
[quote] If Jan tried to poison the prodigy bassoonist
This would only make sense if the prodigy bassoonist also lives in the building, and it was her trash Tim was carrying. A bassoonist who doesn't rehearse as much as Jan, or at all (or she has a soundproof room?). Unless the show manages to separate Tim's secret lover, the original owner of the trash Tim was carrying, Tim getting poisoned, and Tim getting shot and matches an individual to each mystery, which would be completely bonkers in a final episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||October 12, 2021 10:04 PM|
It's a fun show.
But Selena and Nathan Lane's son should've switched roles. Listening to her drone is like water torture.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||October 12, 2021 10:25 PM|
Martin Short’s character is getting on my nerves. I hate when they tell comedians to ad-lib to fill the air. Reminds me of the quote “Don’t just do something, stand there.”
|by Anonymous||reply 243||October 12, 2021 10:52 PM|
she has this weird affect to her voice... it's kinda like vocal fry but different
|by Anonymous||reply 244||October 12, 2021 11:05 PM|
It's vocal fry that lives in her nasal passage.
My three cousins - all sisters - have the same affect and it drives me nuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||October 13, 2021 12:32 AM|
I tried with the first episode. It was too hokey and slapstick and I hated Selena's humorless and unrealistic character.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||October 13, 2021 12:33 AM|
Someone on another board said that Selena's speech is affected by her lupus. She also has arthritis already.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||October 13, 2021 1:40 AM|
R245, the woman from Better Call Saul has the same thing. It's very distracting. Clenched jaw, nasal fry. It's hard to understand their words.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||October 13, 2021 2:28 PM|
So much depends upon
A bassoon cleaner
To propel the plot
Forward to the finale.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||October 13, 2021 2:44 PM|
This was a really accomplished episode, with Jane Lynch taking it down a notch in her conversation with her doppelganger, she, the physical firebrand, and Steve Martin with his flaccid caution. She could have delivered her lines in that scene as a reproach, but she did it beautifully, as if she's talking to herself in the mirror and giving him the push to go to the concert. (Never mind what ensued, I'm talking about how that exchange made the most of the whole bit about her being his stunt double.)
|by Anonymous||reply 250||October 13, 2021 5:43 PM|
^ taking it UP a notch then?
|by Anonymous||reply 251||October 13, 2021 5:54 PM|
Well, taking it down a notch in that she's often over the top, relying on her big personality. I thought she forwent the opportunity to rip into Steve Martin's character, and instead was rather loving. I see what you mean, though; I could also have said she took it up a notch in the quality of her performance--but then, I really love her.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||October 13, 2021 6:01 PM|
Jane was fantastic. Apart from Selena's part, the show is really well executed.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||October 13, 2021 6:37 PM|
Jan might be in the revenge game , thinking her daughter is the dead girl Zoe. She’s pissed about the young girl being first chair over her , somehow that plays into a Tim Kono storyline (she has a thing for Asian men , her date sat next to Charles at the concert). I think MANY people tried to kill Tim, something about the GUT MILK plays into it.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||October 17, 2021 4:17 AM|
Episode 9 was the best and funniest yet. I didn’t laugh that much with other episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||October 17, 2021 8:35 AM|
Jane Lynch was vicious to Martin Short when he was on that TV game show she hosted. It wasn't just humorous banter between them. She was nasty. I think it's interesting they are in this show together.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||October 17, 2021 9:06 AM|
Is Jane Lynch just a hateful cunt or is that an act?
|by Anonymous||reply 257||October 17, 2021 3:12 PM|
any clip of said cuntiness?
|by Anonymous||reply 258||October 17, 2021 3:15 PM|
She’s not a cunt, she just plays one on TV. I work on the set of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel and she’s very warm, charming and self-depracating. She does screw up on her lines, though. It gets so bad the lovely Rachel Brosnihan even fucks up on purpose so it won’t make Jane look so bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||October 17, 2021 6:50 PM|
[quote]It gets so bad the lovely Rachel Brosnihan even fucks up on purpose so it won’t make Jane look so bad.
You work there but you can't spell the star's name correctly?
|by Anonymous||reply 260||October 17, 2021 6:57 PM|
Oh, so sorry, R260, haven’t had a look at a call sheet recently. (roll eyes)
|by Anonymous||reply 261||October 17, 2021 7:03 PM|
Are all the episodes up now? I want to binge the whole thing but except for here, it gets no attention anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||October 18, 2021 6:23 PM|
R262 Last episode is tomorrow
|by Anonymous||reply 263||October 18, 2021 6:28 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 264||October 19, 2021 2:54 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 265||October 19, 2021 7:40 AM|
Loved the reveal who got murdered in the tye dye hoodie. The rest was rather meh, turning the bassoonist into a crazy bitch who was able to keep it hidden the whole time. However, Steve still got it when it comes to physical comedy (the elevator scene and the mumbling while under the influence of the poison).
|by Anonymous||reply 266||October 19, 2021 9:21 AM|
Users from homicide threads on DL, especially when they are attracted to the killer.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||October 19, 2021 11:02 AM|
I thought the finale was fantastic, until the very end when they had to create new drama for season 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||October 19, 2021 12:38 PM|
I agree, R268. Didn’t love that.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||October 20, 2021 2:05 AM|
Excellent finale! And Steve Martin is adorable.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||October 20, 2021 2:06 AM|
She’s on TikTok live with 35,000 viewers answering questions. She’s just as flat and as unanimated as her character, talking about how she doesn’t like to listen to actual podcasts or knit. She has this air about her like she has a terminal illness and is in pain or drugged up that I’ve experienced working in a hospital.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||October 20, 2021 2:39 AM|
If Jackie Hoffman isn’t bumped up to a main character in Only Murders in the Building season two I’m not watching. Please someone make sure this gets to Hulu.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||October 20, 2021 3:18 AM|
She's probably the murderer r272, she's the only other big star.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||October 20, 2021 4:27 AM|
What am I, chopped souvlaki?
|by Anonymous||reply 274||October 20, 2021 4:31 AM|
That wasn’t very realistic. Jan would’ve made sure to kill Charles because she knows he’s an actor.
And then she’s stopped by such an idiotic way. She would’ve killed all 3 of them before they had the chance to touch her.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||October 20, 2021 3:57 PM|
Whimper, not a bang.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||October 20, 2021 3:59 PM|
Have they started on Season 2 yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 277||October 20, 2021 6:38 PM|
It’s being written,, but haven’t started filming. I am assuming they’ll wait til spring to film since season one ended in March and if they’re picking up where they left off, it would make sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||October 20, 2021 7:44 PM|
I've never heard Selena Gomez sing, but her speaking voice sounds like she has a sinus condition.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||October 20, 2021 9:30 PM|
^^ I was unaware of her Lupus.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||October 20, 2021 9:39 PM|
Just wrapped - I thoroughly enjoyed this. Short and Martin are just perfect together.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||October 21, 2021 3:29 AM|
Knew it was Jan and her F***ing Tim Kono was weird. She should’ve been out for revenge for the death of Zoe (maybe her daughter? Niece?) but the ending wasn’t as satisfying as I thought. Also, she’s a murderer so she’s not letting Charles off that easily, she would’ve made it look like someone else did it. The fact is too many loose ends TBH. Oliver’s Veterinarian son is sketchy as hell, so is Oscar the jailbird with way too nice of a disposition and Cinda (Tina Fey). Something is odd about her being at the Arconia when they barely got the cops there, it’s like she has an inside track at NYPD to know when a murder occurs to get ahead of it for her pod. Oh and WTFuck with the weird drink stuff Oscar has way too much of (Gut Milk) ? There’s something about that as well. Then there’s the knows it all Doorman who is chatty and gossipy. Still wish it was Sting.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||October 21, 2021 3:38 AM|
I liked it. It was cozy.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||October 21, 2021 3:45 AM|
I laughed out loud at Martin's expression while being wheeled around on the dolly.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||October 21, 2021 8:04 AM|
It’s not really the kind of show you watch for the mystery. Or the plotting. Or the characters. Or the humor. Or the… why do we watch it?
|by Anonymous||reply 285||October 21, 2021 8:38 AM|
I watched it for Martin Short and Steve Martin. I didn't expect much more from the show other than just watching them do their thing. I was not disappointed. Martin Short made me laugh out loud at least once per episode, and honestly these days anything that can make me laugh is ok by me.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||October 21, 2021 10:05 AM|
Basically revealing the killer at the end of episode 9 was really dumb. They could have made it a total red herring. Perhaps the young bassoon player could have been the actual killer.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||October 21, 2021 10:25 AM|
Jan was oddly ok with admitting the whole crime, almost too ok with it. She’s either a schizophrenic with multiple personality disorder or she’s covering for the real killer knowing her mental disorder will get her off on charges because she isn’t the true real murderer. I can’t buy her and Tim Kono having an affair. He was a kid even though he acted older, their age gap was huge. She is weird and has issues but I think she has a revenge plot against Tim yet she didn’t shoot him as she claimed. She poisoned him but I don’t think she was alone doing it. Or I just don’t like how neatly this was packaged for the final episode. Somethings odd. Cindra (Tina Fey playing nasty girl is always a favorite) showing up while they just had a new murder in the building ? We need more Nathan Lane so that can’t be over. The building super seems to be suspicious since his son was framed for a murder yet he kept his job there? Why didn’t Charles and Oliver press Mable on her BNAs as a teen? She was going into peoples apartments, very uncool, and she lied to them since day one. Also wouldn’t they ask her where her Aunt is?
|by Anonymous||reply 288||October 21, 2021 1:03 PM|
Let's also ask why Mabel's aunt would want that horrendous "art" painted on the wall of her apartment.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||October 21, 2021 2:21 PM|
Well, at least the American Horror Story finale made this one seem quite palatable by comparison.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||October 21, 2021 2:22 PM|
My favorite Martin Short lines:
When Steve Martin says, when they start recording their first episode, "And why are we doing this in a closet?" "Oh now you sound like Patti Lupone."
Another: "As I said to Paula Abdul during our production of Hedda Gabler: We gotta start thinking outside the box here."
|by Anonymous||reply 291||October 21, 2021 4:52 PM|
That Patti LuPone line made me giggle because I was on set of Law & Order when LuPone whined about having to carry a briefcase. The tough as nails prop gal said “You’re playing an attorney. You get a briefcase. At least I didn’t fill it with rocks.”
|by Anonymous||reply 292||October 22, 2021 1:32 AM|
Do you think we’ll find out more about Jan in season 2? Or is she a done character?
|by Anonymous||reply 293||October 22, 2021 2:05 AM|
The creator/showrunner hinted that we might not have seen the last of her but who knows.
Why wasn’t Jane Lynch in the finale?
|by Anonymous||reply 294||October 22, 2021 3:30 AM|
Selena talks like she has new teeth or her jaws are clenched, she is not a good actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||October 22, 2021 5:01 AM|
Finally, a Reddit theory that I can get behind:
[quote]Fact: Jan has serious unchecked mental issues.
[quote]Fact: Jan has a serious deep rooted hatred for being number two.
[quote]Fact: Even in tense situations she cracks campy jokes.
[quote]Fact: Jan is in her 50s, meaning she grew up in the 70s.
[quote]Fact: Jan has blond hair.
[quote]Theory: Given the evidence I am forced to the assumption that Jan is actually middle child and fellow psychopath Jan Brady. Perhaps she changed her last name to distance herself from her family and more successful sister.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||October 22, 2021 5:07 AM|
Great ending. Great show.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||October 22, 2021 7:08 AM|
Is Jackie Hoffman related to John Hoffman who wrote it with Martin?
|by Anonymous||reply 298||October 23, 2021 12:27 PM|
The woman who made them buy the gut milk for info on Tim Kono, maybe she is the one who did Babs in?
|by Anonymous||reply 299||October 23, 2021 12:32 PM|
[quote]Is Jackie Hoffman related to John Hoffman who wrote it with Martin?
I wondered as well, but it doesn't appear so. She needs MUCH more to do for season 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||October 23, 2021 3:53 PM|
I wonder if she’s the murderer. She seemed the closest to Bunny. I wonder if there’s more there.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||October 23, 2021 5:21 PM|
I love the concept of this show. I think it’s one that could continue for many years. They could even pass the torch to a new trio of fans.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||October 23, 2021 5:22 PM|
[quote]The woman who made them buy the gut milk for info on Tim Kono, maybe she is the one who did Babs in?
Who is Babs?
|by Anonymous||reply 303||October 23, 2021 5:36 PM|
So many people on Reddit are so desperate to pin everything on Oscar. I really doubt it was him.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||October 23, 2021 5:52 PM|
They should give the cat man a boyfriend.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||October 23, 2021 6:02 PM|
Wait, I just realized, the cat paw in the freeze was just a red herring, nothing became of it?
|by Anonymous||reply 306||October 23, 2021 6:08 PM|
I love the show, but I get that odd sensation of someone screaming "don't make it too jewish!". There are these moments where the show gets this Woody Allen kind of deep or quirky, only to turn around so quickly that you suffer a whiplash.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||October 23, 2021 6:11 PM|
[quote]Wait, I just realized, the cat paw in the freeze was just a red herring, nothing became of it?
Except at least call-back jokes. The best: "and that smell is new..."
|by Anonymous||reply 308||October 23, 2021 6:45 PM|
Lot of stuff was just red herrings. Like, Gut Milk.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||October 23, 2021 8:20 PM|
The show needs to be more Jewish. That's actually the best part of the show but I guess only the Martin Short character is actually Jewish (and Bunny and Jackie Hoffman of course.)
|by Anonymous||reply 310||October 23, 2021 9:00 PM|
Are you serious? The season is over and they don’t say who the murderer is?
|by Anonymous||reply 311||October 23, 2021 9:04 PM|
R311, they do say who the murderer is.
Then they introduce a new killing to be solved in the second season.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||October 23, 2021 9:25 PM|
It was cute but I have no desire to watch a second season
|by Anonymous||reply 313||October 24, 2021 1:47 AM|
r303 oops sorry I meant Bunny.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||October 24, 2021 3:33 AM|
I will say they are not afraid to hire ugly actors, almost everyone on that show is below average looking.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||October 24, 2021 3:35 AM|
Jan spilling her guts was too easy an out. And Tim Kono was weird looking. Oscar is shady. Oliver’s son is shady. Where’s Mabel’s aunt?
|by Anonymous||reply 316||October 24, 2021 3:53 AM|
The aunt will appear in Season 2 and be played by Rosie Perez.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||October 24, 2021 2:49 PM|
[Quote] I will say they are not afraid to hire ugly actors, almost everyone on that show is below average looking.
They’re all character actors—each gave a finely edged performance
|by Anonymous||reply 318||October 24, 2021 3:45 PM|
I want Aaron Dominguez inside of me.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||October 24, 2021 3:48 PM|
Am I wrong in thinking that at the beginning of the series Martin was playing his character too over the top but toned it down after about the 3 third episode. The rest of the series he was just right and I wanted to see more of him and his bad theater director bits.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||October 24, 2021 10:00 PM|
R319, he can fuck you after I’ve had my way with his nipples.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||October 24, 2021 10:12 PM|
r320 are you talking about Martin Short? Confusing when they both have Martin in their name.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||October 24, 2021 11:39 PM|
Yes 322 Martin Short but I would also say that both seemed to relax into their roles as the episodes went on.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||October 24, 2021 11:42 PM|
I want Martin Short's son in my shower.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||October 25, 2021 4:34 AM|
If any of you haven’t seen Amy Ryan’s performance in Gone Baby Gone, you should. She is a real actress, in that she can actually change her behavior for different roles.
Most actors can’t do that - they have a particular persona and act out variations of that. But she can actually become different people.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||October 25, 2021 5:47 AM|
Crew friend told me Season 2 starts shooting the middle of next month and goes until late March.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||October 25, 2021 8:09 PM|
Selena Gomez is perfectly fine in this. She has been great at moments.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||October 29, 2021 2:59 AM|
^^ Yes, when she wasn't speaking.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||October 29, 2021 11:07 PM|
Maybe they can incorporate Selena's leaked videos for season 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||October 30, 2021 3:28 AM|
Loving every moment but I think I missed something. Mabel says she's going to Teaneck New Jersey but they go to Long Island..Whadda I miss?
|by Anonymous||reply 330||November 6, 2021 2:45 AM|
Just finished the show, loved it, Martin Short was the best but most of the character actors were fantastic too.
Some of the "red herrings" in season one will probably be mentioned in season two, since the current murderer is clearly upset about the podcast, meaning that it probably has something to do with Tim's murder, even tangentially. We also never found out who the engagement ring Tim bought was for. Jan said he was seeing someone else so that's a loose end that was never tied up.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||November 7, 2021 11:20 AM|
Tim Kono was FUG , glad they offered him.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||November 7, 2021 12:35 PM|
[quote]Amy Ryan is no beauty or spring chicken but she's 23 years younger than Martin. Kinda gross.
At least they mentioned it a LOT, really dunking on Martin about it. She also looked a decade older than she is, I didn't even recognize her at first, it was kind of jarring.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||November 7, 2021 1:13 PM|
Playing the bassoon must take years off of your life.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||November 7, 2021 2:02 PM|
I’m still wondering about the murder in the park. Was that ever explained?
|by Anonymous||reply 335||November 7, 2021 2:07 PM|
I think there was something more between Tim and Bunny. Because, why didn’t she evict him with all those complaints? Hm.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||November 7, 2021 2:16 PM|
Right? When she said anyone with 8 complaints is subject to a vote from the other tenants as to whether they can still live there or not, I wondered how Tim was never even voted on.
They did make sure to always put Bunny in those big statement necklaces so maybe that was a clue that she was in on the jewelry thing with Tim or the Dimas'.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||November 7, 2021 3:58 PM|
I wish they would've revealed that he was bisexual, after they mentioned the possibility that Tim's lover could've been a man.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||November 7, 2021 4:35 PM|
I thought they were going to make him gay and Oscar bi and make them lovers (meaning Oscar actually had a thing with each of the Hardy Boys). I thought they were hinting at Oscar cheating on Zoe with Tim. But I was wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||November 7, 2021 4:44 PM|
I thought Tim was closeted gay at first because it was bizarre how Mabel knew nothing about his love life.
|by Anonymous||reply 340||November 7, 2021 5:19 PM|
Bunny in on the scam with Tim and the Dimases to steal and sell jewelry? Tim F***ing old Coots in the building like an escort so he kept his apartment buy being a kept man for the old building hags?
|by Anonymous||reply 341||November 9, 2021 1:45 PM|
Jackie Hoffman wasn't put to much use, maybe she will be involved in the murder?
|by Anonymous||reply 342||November 9, 2021 5:32 PM|
Can I ask about a scene? Steve and Martin are in the car and they do this whole bit about towns on Long Island. Being from there I got the humor, but to people who know nothing about LI, or from the rest of the country, did you find it funny or just some ramblings? To me it seemed like such an inside joke.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||November 9, 2021 10:02 PM|
It just sounded dumb to me. And I come from LI.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||November 9, 2021 10:04 PM|
It’s too easy for Oscar to come out of prison for ten years and assimilate right back into his life with the girl he thought was a friend but never visited him. Now they’re automatically a couple?? He can go live in the building that he was arrested for killing his ex in? Fishy as fuck. Mabel just fucks him like this was normal? Then Kono, clearly playing on our team, is with a woman twice his age having loud noisy Hetero sex? Not buying it. If he and Teddy Dimases’ deaf twink son were secret lovers, I’m all in. Also, Oliver’s half breed, veterinarian son is shady. He harbors resentment toward his dad for using his hard earned money to invest into his career but the son feels it was his money for college? No parent owes you a college fund. Where’s Oliver’s ex wife? I can’t buy the one killer only and it’s the bassoon playing middle aged white woman. Where’s Michael Scarn (the office Michael Scotts alter ego crime fighting super agent) when we need him.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||November 10, 2021 12:46 PM|
Stop trolling with your racist nonsense, r345. You didn't even bother to get main plot points right, but maybe you're hoping you'll get attention from people who will correct you.
|by Anonymous||reply 346||November 10, 2021 12:49 PM|
Oscar staying with his dad, who is the maintenance guy of the building, makes perfect sense. His dad can provide him with a steady residency that is required for released former inmates.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||November 10, 2021 12:54 PM|
Crew friend told me first shoot day for S2 has been pushed to early December. And for some reason some of it will be set in the 1950s.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||November 12, 2021 4:39 AM|
I enjoyed watching the show and much of it was cute and clever but it had so many damn plot holes in it.
1) Why would Teddy sponsor/encourage a podcast that could find out about his own shady shit? Also: why the fuck did the King of Delis also own funeral homes?
2) The stuff with the cop was idiotic. Detectives don't just show up and declare "Case closed! It was a suicide!" before an autopsy is done. Also: was that cop on the take? Cause how else could she afford that hugeass apartment she had?
3) The bit with Bunny evicting people right and left, from a co-op, was also ridiculous and stupid. Not how eviction works, not even in a rental.
4) Why is Serena Gomez's mom middle class and the aunt (is it her sister?) rich enough to be able to live in that building? Where is the aunt anyway?
5) Why did Oscar get such a great credit in the show, listed in the opening credits? He really wasn't that important of a character. Also, the actor seems hella gay....not that there's anything wrong with that.
6) Charles was a big TV star in the NINETIES?!?!? So, he's 70something now so 40something when he had his hit show...what was he BEFORE he became a star?
7) Why did they make Martin Short's character straight? He seemed RAAAAL gay. But, Martin Short seems pretty gay in everything he does...
The plot was rushed along too fast, too. It really should have been longer...12 to 16 episodes would have given them the right amount of time to structure the story better.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||November 12, 2021 7:45 AM|
[quote]Also: why the fuck did the King of Delis also own funeral homes?
Where do you think he gets the meat for his salamis?
|by Anonymous||reply 350||November 12, 2021 7:46 PM|
Has anyone asked what Martin Short's lovely wife thinks about the program?
|by Anonymous||reply 351||November 12, 2021 7:46 PM|
[quote]Her casting thus strikes me as cynical because you know Hulu execs told them they needed someone young, preferably a woman, who is somehow "of color" (even if it just means being tan or having ethnic grandparents) to garner an audience. I get that Martin and Short on their own wouldn't attract a demographic interesting to advertisers, but Gomez just does not add anything to the proceedings.
How could Selena not be in the series? She's one of the producers. 😂 🤣
|by Anonymous||reply 352||November 23, 2021 7:07 AM|
[quote]The bit with Bunny evicting people right and left, from a co-op, was also ridiculous and stupid. Not how eviction works, not even in a rental.
Bunny was thoroughly ridiculous. A co-op board president, if that's what she was supposed to be, doesn't have the sole power to evict people. Nor would they use such vulgar laugh when talking to a cooperator.
The entire co-op board usually gets together to discuss a problematic tenant, then there's a period of warnings. If the tenant continues their terrible behavior, then their are fines for whatever reason a cooperator might considered for eviction.
The lobby scenes with the other tenants present, when Bunny was embarrassing and yelling at Martin Short's character, were especially ridiculous, that would never happen, especially in that sort of co-op.
Co-op meetings, between the board and the tenants, usually don't take place in the building's lobby. Talk about ridiculous.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||November 23, 2021 7:25 AM|
Apparently some here think it's a documentary and not a situation comedy.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||November 23, 2021 10:14 AM|
Amen R354. Imagine the scintillating television that would emerge from filming co-op board meetings as they occur in real life. Sign me up.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||November 23, 2021 10:29 AM|
1) Teddy said he was sponsoring them as a "keep your enemies closer" move. Also, WHY he owns funeral homes isn't a plot hole, it's so he can steal the jewelry, which honestly didn't make a lot of sense but I think we're going to hear more about that in the second season.
2) The cop said they didn't know for sure it was suicide. She said what she did because she was angry about true crime nuts getting in the way again and was trying to shoo them off. And no one in the show realistically could have afforded the apartment they were in, except Teddy and Tim.
3) I agree the eviction stuff was flimsy, all three of them would have gotten an attorney within moments and fought the eviction and probably won.
4) Again, not a plot hole. The aunt not being shown or explained is almost certainly so there's more information to reveal in the second series. Remember, Mabel said there were loose ends that they didn't get to. This is more of a loose end than a plot hole.
5) Oscar is, for some reason, listed in every episode when he's not actually in about half of them. Not sure why that is.
6) Charles' show "Brazzos" was probably late 80s to early 90s, but they're vague about the dates. I think the reason the show looks so bad on the YouTube clips is on purpose and meant to indicate it was never on cable in reruns, because it wasn't ever that popular. That means the only copies of the show online are old VHS copies taped during its original run.
7) I still think we might find out Martin Short's character was gay and closeted.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||November 23, 2021 12:37 PM|
The aunt wasn't around because the apartment was gutted for renovation. Many rich people rent another place so they don't have to live there during the mess.
|by Anonymous||reply 357||November 23, 2021 1:42 PM|
But where are the renovators?
|by Anonymous||reply 358||November 23, 2021 1:47 PM|
Mabel was fucking it up and shouldn't have been in charge.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||November 23, 2021 4:24 PM|
There's something to the name Theo Dimas, right? God + The People? Or just a very nice name?
|by Anonymous||reply 360||November 23, 2021 5:54 PM|
[quote]Amen [R354]. Imagine the scintillating television that would emerge from filming co-op board meetings as they occur in real life. Sign me up.
What's your problem? You cannot afford to live in one of those fabulous grand and very large NYC co-ops?
Don't be so ignorant, there should have been some semblance of reality. Besides, someone as tacky as Bunny wouldn't even be living in such an expensive co-op.
|by Anonymous||reply 361||November 23, 2021 7:24 PM|
Part of the series was filmed at The Belnord, a Manhattan condo. The Belnord is located at 225 W 86th Street, its 13 stories high with over 200 multi-million dollar apartment units.
Among the condo's amenities are a club lounge, concierge, children's playroom, teen room, sports court, and a private residential elevator. The landmarked, Italian Renaissance building boasts six residential lobbies, a grand, open staircase and a courtyard with over 20,000 square feet of lush gardens.
Some viewers assumed the series was filmed at the Apthorp, another grand condo on the UWS. The Apthorp is the building where Cyndi Lauper was subletting for an extremely low amount, about $650 a month and actually accused the owner of ripping her off. Unbelievable.
One six room apartment at the Apthorp now rents for $35,000 a MONTH!
|by Anonymous||reply 362||November 23, 2021 7:30 PM|
Isn't Selena Gomez the former Disney 'star' who got a kidney from a friend?
I noticed how yellowish her skin looked, she didn't look healthy at all.
No, I'm not the Yellow Skin troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||November 23, 2021 7:46 PM|
Apparently you are A if not The Yellow Skin Troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 364||November 23, 2021 8:21 PM|
[quote]Don't be so ignorant, there should have been some semblance of reality. Besides, someone as tacky as Bunny wouldn't even be living in such an expensive co-op.
Your head must explode when re-runs of "Bewitched" and "I Dream Of Jeannie" come on.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||November 23, 2021 8:30 PM|
Tomorrow’s the first day of shooting on Season 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 366||November 29, 2021 10:59 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 367||November 29, 2021 11:24 PM|
Selena is the weakest link
|by Anonymous||reply 368||December 3, 2021 2:16 PM|
I hated the black detective who cursed up a storm. So unrealistic to have her talk that way to the rich people In the building. I guess that was to show NY is gritty. DItto for coarse Bunny. FAIL.
|by Anonymous||reply 369||December 3, 2021 2:50 PM|
[quote]Your head must explode when re-runs of "Bewitched" and "I Dream Of Jeannie" come on.
Not, you c'mon! Don't be absurd, the way Bunnie acted has nothing to do with fantastical TV shows. There's no comparison whatsoever.
I guess you'd have to be a native New Yorker, and live in a co-op, or at least know people who live in one, to understand how the insanity of thinking a co-op board meeting, with the residents, would not happen in a building's lobby, especially the type of high end building depicted in the series.
Bunnie was a ridiculous caricature, the way she talked to certain residents also would not happen, especially in front of other residents. Bunnie's behavior wouldn't be acceptable from the co-op board president or even an on premises co-op manager. If there's a problem with a cooperators, letters are sent to them, things are done discretely. Not by some crass loudmouth in a building lobby.
The Black woman stating she wanted the dead resident's larger apartment? That's not how a co-op works, you cannot simply take over another resident's apartment, you can try to buy another available apartment, not simply move into it because you desire a larger space or like the view better. Unless the co-op also rents apartments in the building, that wouldn't happen either. Some co-ops don't even allow a person to own more than one unit.
|by Anonymous||reply 370||December 3, 2021 8:00 PM|
[quote]I hated the black detective who cursed up a storm. So unrealistic to have her talk that way to the rich people In the building. I guess that was to show NY is gritty. DItto for coarse Bunny. FAIL.
The Black woman detective was yet another ridiculous caricature which also does not exist. Why such foul language?
Her GF was also unrealistic, the GF was much too good looking and normal to be involved with that foul mouth crass cow. I could picture the Black woman working at the post office , sweeping the subway platform or in a Rite Aid, not be a detective. EPIC FAIL!
|by Anonymous||reply 371||December 3, 2021 8:05 PM|
Filming on Season 2 started this week.
|by Anonymous||reply 372||December 3, 2021 8:20 PM|
They adding Cara Delevine (I know I misspelled that) to season 2. Another bad actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||December 3, 2021 10:08 PM|
My co-op has the annual shareholders meeting in the lobby. It's the only space big enough for us all. Do you really think we're going to have a separate room for a meeting held once a year?
The problem is some of our units are rentals and we had renters (ewww) walking through...some stuck around to try to listen and the super (who also owns a unit separately) was asked to chase them away.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||December 4, 2021 3:08 PM|
[quote]I guess you'd have to be a native New Yorker, and live in a co-op, or at least know people who live in one, to understand how the insanity of thinking a co-op board meeting, with the residents, would not happen in a building's lobby, especially the type of high end building depicted in the series.
Wow. I am a native New Yorker, but never lived in a co-op, upper west side and Noho, but really now. It's a situation comedy, nothing more. How many murders have been in your building? We are up to two in a matter of days because it's a TV show. I just want you open your mind and think real hard... why did Ginger bring six years worth of formal gowns on a three hour cruise?
|by Anonymous||reply 375||December 5, 2021 4:45 PM|
Let's start a Go Fund Me for R370 which can then fund their hyper-real documentary on NY co-op board meetings.
|by Anonymous||reply 376||December 5, 2021 5:37 PM|
[quote]My co-op has the annual shareholders meeting in the lobby. It's the only space big enough for us all. Do you really think we're going to have a separate room for a meeting held once a year?
That's your co-op. Not all co-ops consist of just one building, especially in NYC, there are actual co-op complexes, in Manhattan, Queens and Brooklyn. I grew up in one. The co-op I currently reside in holds their Board meetings once a month and never in the lobby.
The co-op where I grew up was a complex, each building had a large rec room on each lobby level, this room was used for Board meetings as well as rented on to the cooperators for Birthday parties, after-funeral family dinners etc. The co-op, of course, charged a rental fee which helped with co-op expenses. This co-op still exists and is thriving, as soon as an apartment is for sale, it sells quickly, especially as the apartments feature spectacular views of Manhattan. While not as expensive as some co-ops. one apartment recently sold for $800,000.
Obviously, one size does not fit all.
Some of you are completely ridiculous arguing about things you know nothing or little about. A woman as rude and nasty as Bunnie would never be picked to run a co-op Board. A co-op president, must be neutral and they certainly would not scream at a cooperator in front of other residents.
Sure, it's fun seeing crazy characters in a TV series, but Bunnie was not real on any level. Some viewers actually do notice such things, there is nothing wrong with noticing glaring mistakes.
|by Anonymous||reply 377||December 6, 2021 1:46 AM|
Seek help, R377.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||December 6, 2021 5:16 AM|
Typical lame totally unimaginative DL response when someone wants to bring some reality into a silly TV series situation.
R378, kindly FUCK OFF!
|by Anonymous||reply 379||December 6, 2021 9:23 AM|
R379, do you realize your point is exactly as absurd as arguing that Sgt. Schultz on Hogan's Hero's wasn't anything like real prison guards in Nazi Germany, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 380||December 6, 2021 9:45 AM|
R379, kindly link to a video of your recorded co-op meetings so we can submit to the Emmys!
|by Anonymous||reply 381||December 6, 2021 9:51 AM|
They were shooting today outside the Belnord (?) on West 86th St today where the fictitious Arconia is set.
|by Anonymous||reply 382||December 7, 2021 10:29 PM|
Shirley MacLaine and Amy Schumer join the show for S2. Cara Delevingne is also apparently going to be in the show.
MacLaine - YES, perfect.
The others? Meh. Big, big meh.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||January 13, 2022 5:06 PM|
R363, I thought she didn’t look well. I’m glad she’s working, though. Lupus is a real bitch of a disease.
I love this show, despite its flaws.
And I am the last person to cheer for PC/ affirmative action shit, but the inclusive casting warms my heart. There are all kinds of characters and actors in this show, and it doesn’t feel terribly forced.
|by Anonymous||reply 384||January 13, 2022 5:16 PM|
Glad to hear from crew guy that Jackie Hoffman will be used more for this season.
Half the crew tested positive a few weeks ago so the start date after the holiday break got pushed to this Tuesday.
|by Anonymous||reply 385||January 13, 2022 5:51 PM|
R384 give it a rest! Every show you see is darker than the next, it’s “inclusion” overload! Every commercial voice over is a POC, there’s “black voices” categories to watch “black only” films, it’s being shoved so far down our throats, we’re shutting out wokeness. Sometimes people of different races don’t live near each other or have different shades of friends but it doesn’t make them racists, it’s called reality.
|by Anonymous||reply 386||January 14, 2022 1:25 PM|