Ben Barnes, Part XXIII

Ha gmta

Thanks Ross, I only posted it because I was afraid someone would bomb us

As I was saying: in the light of afghanistan being taken by the taliban again they have to better idea than to choose 9 and 11?

11 being bad enough for everybody concerned

R3 Totally unbelievable. I don’t think the Chargers have noted that - yet.

Who ever the Twitter Mango is, please tag Ben in the 11-9 you so kindly posted

R1 Indeed! But I just had to give 23 that title, didn't I? ;)

R3 But like, I don't get it, like what's so bad that happened on November 9th?!? Other than being the morning after Trumpy won..

Ha check it. Must be Cheryl.

Cheryl or Tammy. Or someone else.

R6 Reverse the order. 9-11

R3 They are dumb and dumber

R4 I'm sure they will soon when someone points it out. Even the LA Charger fans know what is going down when JH and Nina are in the vicinity....

R5, sorry but no, doing it on purpose: I want that account to thrive a little longer. 😂 But anyone could reply to me and tag him, soooo... 😅

Lilly your link was wrong

I’m still shocked that she posted that story with the face mask on.

Looks like Hannibal Lecter!

Oops sorry

R9 Sarcasm dude.. Sarcasm. SmartAss isn't the only one that wields it round these parts. Like, it's a language!!

R13 You mean the character that inspired Ben's Darkling performance? Maybe he has a particular kink?

The Berlin Wall fell though, so … Cindy will be happy.

Just to fix that vision. In fact Hanni looks better in his.

Haha R15 - yeah maybe it’s for Benny Baby, y’never know! Maybe lingerie doesn’t do it for him!

And of course R10 - aside from the somber overtones of 9/11… Julesy just *had* to pick the 11 jersey didn’t she? Still trying to steal his thunder!!

While others are evacuating people from Kabul, JH os evacuating spirits from her ass.

R17 PS feel free to pop that on SM if you like 🤣

Seriously, what is wrong with this woman? This might just be the thing that gets the fandom popping.

Ok call me cruel, mean, shitty, an asshole...but why devote so much time to fanart? Does she sell it? Or does she just hoard it like really crappy treasure?

T15 Gotcha, sorry 🤦‍♀️

Ok I obviously meant Cindy but I have a link.

R23 Aaaaaand when he doesn’t pop a boner in gratitude?

R16 Sorry I’m confused (gin) - could you explain please? 😁

R23 I think she posts it for BB to worship, then hoards it. I think I recall someone (on her behalf) giving one of her drawings to Ben at a red carpet or awards ceremony.

R25 what happened on nov 9th.

Contrary to sept 11th.

I see we have two XXIII threads, I say we use the other one when we are done here, to confuse him and others even more.

BTW.. should we have fun analyzing why Nina posted the first of the face mask pics the day after his birthday with the hashtag "jetlag"

Did JH delete the 11:11 Instagram post of her and Brooks? I don’t see it but maybe I didn’t look far enough back

R28 they did not fly to Bath for a day.

R29 November 11, Friday, should have been in 2016.

Still there! Awkward

Go look at Ben's tags right now!

Lol wow. He could just change one small setting to prevent the ability for people he doesn’t follow to tag him if he really wanted to avoid this. Another pro tip for Ben and friends

Tammy has it in for him today

Is that the blackface? Or does her face look that stupid in that pic?

Someone's wilding! 😂😂😂

Too bad, someone already tagged him, but it was very beautiful. Home someone screenshot it. But it will come together over night repeatedly.

Holy shit, too funny 😂

R34 SSSSHHHHHHHHHH

Oops. Take 2

I give up.

Of course I got a screenshot.

Holy fuck, he UNTAGGED THEM ALL. Benny’s wiiiiide awake!

R33 Amazing!!!!!

R43 Hahaha I got a S/S too!!!

Well, Benny, you should consider your insta settings. Not that hard.

Maybe he has to watch the chargers game as a good puppy for 9:11

His fans would flip out if they could no longer tag him.

He will never sleep again now. But Ben, that was Cheryl, not even us.

Keep at it. The fucker can’t stay awake all night.

Next suggestion: ask your gf to delete her 11:11 post from 2016.

R49 he will for true love, watch and listen to JHs football comment.

R47 Very true!!

For the record, if anyone missed it in the very short space of time it was up…

Part 1

R52 Part 2

I’m sure the OP got better ones but you get the idea!!!

Check his tags now. Cheryl WILL NOT BE IGNORED, BEN.

I actually feel sorry for him … but could we get the 40 on the nose on a spread?

R55 Feel sorry for him when he contracts gonorrhea courtesy of the Ho.

Why not tag her too!!??! She’s the one that should also be embarrassed and thrown under the bus!

R57 she would not be embarrassed.

He can thank Cindy for that one. This is not on us. This is Cheryl. He already blocked all of us during Montanagate.

Hahaha!!! OK I got nice clean s/s before they disappear.

Part 1

I saved some.

I feel bad for him too haha this is a bit much for me (not enough to act like Cindy of course). I just wish he would drop her. I don’t think people would be acting this way about Payton List, but I understand why he might think people will act this way about anyone he dates.

R61 Thanks! That’s great. Wonder how long they’ll be up for. Love that they used the blackface shot on her football pic!

R62 why alert everybody to their dating then with emojigate???

R62 Some would, without a doubt. Most would be ok.

It’s just… her.

She’s so fake, vapid and toxic but covers it all with “sparkles and fairies.”

Remember what Chuck said about her after their split - whole other person than he thought she was. And Brooks - ‘her behaviour’

There you have it. BB’s a bigger fool than I’d ever have credited him to be if he *is* enmeshed with this tarantula.

Well, she could either stay silent or congratulate him officially. Nobody, repeat, nobody is forcing them to send secret hidden messages via millions of viewers.

R62. Yes, I think it‘s crass, but that‘s just it. Nobody here knows or can control what anybody else does. Ben can‘t control the Darklina Stans either and they are boiling as well. All he can do is control his narrative.

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Did Cheryl retag him? It is all back?

R62 R66 We can all see that because we’re not self-obsessed Hollyweird idts.

Frankly, I just don’t get it. I’ve said it before but they absolutely *knew* that people would pick up on it.

So, Mr Privacy Barnes is either about to publicly declare his undying love for this piece of horribleness, or else they’re just having a damn good laugh and thinking that the publicity/hype is great for Ben’s EP.

Nah.

R70. As if there was a hype. No new people are being gained. Only the old ones alienated.

R71 Oh yes - we all know that but somehow Ben doesn’t. And it’s doing him no favours. I still think the Ho told him this would be a good idea 😬

R71 He’ll figure that out soon enough.

R73 then it will be our fault for sabotaging him.

R69 For the moment! And ‘Tammy’ or ‘Cheryl’ added another one. See R60 and R61 for the evidence.

R74 But of course! Nothing to do with him.

Makes one feel like Cassandra. I predicted this during sunflowergate. Before Whitehorse even dropped the 33 bomb.

Does anyone find the heart on this really eeeuuwww? Just use BB’s favourite heart 💗emoji, ffs.

I think it‘s so pretentious to align himself with Donny Hathaway. Really, he must think he IS a prince and that his tribute is an honor.

R49 Not gone *yet* - so either sleeping or on overnight flight back to LA???

Just saw that Jules and Dob now have some contract with the NFL? For all the wine sipping football fans?

R80. Guess sleeping. Overnight would have long been gone and you do get internet there these days.

R82 True but does Benny know that?? 🤣

R81 Oh so that’s what the ‘exciting news’ was?? Yeah, sell it during the games, I’m sure it’ll go down really well!!!

BTW he hasn’t liked the Ho’s latest thirst post. Not even promoting anything that I can see.

BB ‘thinks to self’… “Hmm, maybe Jules got it wrong with all this stuff…..”

So Tammy is a Leo Stan who has joined in on our little crusade because of what JHo said about Leo. Everyone say Hi Tammy!!!

R85 Hi Tammy!!!

And what she insinuated about Ben … she ‘knew’ him. Knew meaning faked some orgasms with him.

R50 Let’s check back on that sometime!!!

R81 A concessions contract. They’re like upscale hot dog vendors!

R85 Leo DiCaprio? What did the Ho say about him?

Couple of interesting comments added.

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Lol my friend fucked Leo a few times and unfortunately what Julianne said about him is true….sorry Tammy

R89 R92Lol! Not a huge surprise. He can’t even take care of himself, why would we expect him to know how to take care of a woman?

R93 plus when you are him you don’t need to be good in bed there willl always be someone who wants to fuck his regardless of his reputation

R94 Maybe it’s because I’m type A and my MO is anything worth doing is worth doing well, but… I also just wouldn’t want to risk the world-at-large hearing that I was bad in bed. Point of pride & all that.

Untagged. Ben must be insomniac or have just returned from the pub.

R96 Just arriving to say that exact thing so I was wrong in R80!

R97 Forgot to say, or he’s worked out how to use wi-if on the plane.

R90 Along with the @‘d BB comment and one pointing out the jerseys, there’s a GIF saying “Who?” and a comment saying Yawwwn

🤣

R98 You think he flies coach or first class?

R100 Oh First Class, darling. Numerous photos posted in the past show him in those fancy little cubicle things.

R100 R101 This one sprang to mind.

R96 Or he just did his usual and woke from the post coital nap in order to slip out the door and go home. Guess he's not an awkward morning after type?

R101 R102 Ok, fair enough. So he has the greenbacks now. But back in 2013, 2014? Maybe not.

I think he’s a love bombing cuddler. But when he’s done, he ghosts.

R96 I can't find the account. Did he untag or was it reported?

R104 Oh yes, probably not. There was this one too. This might not be First, possibly the equivalent of Business so not quite coach. (There’s also a cringe comment from Cindy on there!) Although depending on the aircraft configuration, you usually get a free seat in the middle of the three in Business.

R106 Oh, you think Tammy’s account has vaporized? It’s possible he reported her. Or she got mad at us for mocking Leo, and 86’d it.

R108 How long does it take IG to block? Seems a bit quick for that so maybe like the JH/BL 11:11 poster, they’ve changed URL’s to avoid getting blocked. Or yeah - deleted/deactivated.

R109 Well, if she changed the name but he was still tagged, they’d still show up. Hmmmm. Deleted or deactivated then.

R110 SmartAss we apparently need your help.. you found out she was a Leo stan and all.. ;)

R110 Or saw they’d been untagged and thought ‘I’ll change the URL” as guessed he’d report them? But they’re in the wind whatever the reason apparently.

R108 The tagged photos disappeared about an hour ago. I checked for the account (babygirltammyy) after it happened and couldn't find it. Not sure if she deactivated/changed the name/was reported.

Just saying… The Ho hanging around with NFL players???

Big hunky sportsmen are her thing are they not? “Muscles and pecs”, remember?

How much are these guys on? Any big earners?

Watch out, Benny - one of these guys might carry off your gf!!!

R114 Just looked up the salaries myself.

Woah.

Bye bye Benny, Benny bye bye…

And Brooks earned $28m over his NHL career so… yeah.

BB not even in the ballpark.

She should sashay her fat ass back onto DWTS. They get some athletes on there.

It’s getting difficult for even the BB DL thread participants to keep track of all the BB threads haha trolls have no chance against this chaos

Tammy deactivated before he blocked so she can do it again. If he would just block he could get rid of them in one fell swoop. Dumbass.

R119 If he was even half as smart as he thinks he is, he’d always block objectionable posters instead of merely untagging objectionable posts.

He seems like he's objectively stupid, just as he's objectively handsome, skinny, a terrible person and going to hell. I know how he loves to say he *went* to university, but did he like actually graduate? Or did he just like fuck his way through four years and receive a framed certificate for most ass-to-mouth-contact on the most professors by one student?

He graduated with honors and won a writing award during uni

JH is at the airport lounge late at night. Overnight flight to the UK?

Kingston University is ranked 104 in a UK University Rankings for 2021. I’m less than impressed with his academic prowess.

lol well good think you don’t need a college degree to be an actor I guess. He still seems more book smart than many other actors, but he could definitely use some technical literacy education if he wants to keep his private life private

R125 agreed, just pointing out that he’s no bradley cooper or tom hiddleston on the academic front. And you don’t see them reminding people in every interview that they went to college (nevermind that it was yale and cambridge).

*georgetown (not yale)

R123 I think BB will either be on his way back to LA very shortly or might be en route as we speak. She’s probably on her way to another vacay destination or some other stupid promo for that swill they call wine.

Or maybe she’s on another husband-shopping stadium tour! 🤣

Shaun is very supportive of Nina and the wine. As should be. JH sitting all by her lil self in the stadium with nobody a-kissin‘ her!

R129 Probably headed to the locker room afterwards 😉

BTW, does it make sense for a woman who suffered from endometriosis to sell alcohol?

Why hasn't Tammy/Cheryl joined us on the dark side over here at the DL BB anti-fandom? I think she's earned her entry into the Club of Eternal Disappointment. Come on over Tammy! We wanna make friends!

R131 typed a whole comment and it disappeared. Was saying I'm skeptical of her whole endo story. Usual Disclaimer: I could be wrong.

R131 R133 exactly JH will be caught out in a web of lies about many of her health and sexulaity admissions, she has a track record of treating men like shit too...no ones gonna touch her, she would have to pay Them!

...or she will go back to bearding!

Interesting observations on your take of idolised people in society Benny, interesting....

Awwww how sweet of this fan to help him out. She goes on to screenshot how to do it.

R123 I believe JH is on her way to Surf City, North Carolina for a family get together. Her sisters (and their families) have gathered at a beach house there and Katherine (sister) posted an IG story yesterday with the caption "waiting for @juleshough and the parents".

We should follow all the family's stories and check if Ben unwittingly shows up.

R139 The Sleuth used to track them. He’s never shown up before, I thin the consensus in the past has been he’s never been invited. He should be grateful. Could you imagine having to hang out with the whole bunch of them?

Take me to the asylum.

R140 *think* !!!

R140 At this point, I imagine he would fit right in. 😬

So if Ben flies there after London to be with the Ho, then we will have Montanagate, the sequel. NorthCarolinaGate🤣

R140 Exactly, their thing makes no sense to me. Maybe they really are just fuck buddies. Does the Sleuth participate on these threads? Or does he/she just sleuth?

I agree with R138 I don’t know why he doesn’t just remove the ability to tag. The only thing he would be missing out on is their childish reposts of every single photo plus amateur edits and art. It would go a long way towards aging up his image and fan interactions

I thought this was funny. You guys just stop being so obsessed haha

As this has been said many times in past threads, if he was just transparent and honest as he claims to be than there would be no hate. There would be nothing to talk about. Since he decides to post secret emojis and a bunch of bullshit, people are going to respond. If his real love music inspiration is a a vile woman who does black face not long ago, people can also comment about that as well. He has done this to himself.

Also if I can add you don’t see his birthday buddy andrew Garfield getting any hate, oh yeah because he doesn’t do stupid shit. Or at least he keeps it private. BB pulling this whole I want privacy, all the while I want to sell you music that is directly tied to my very private personal life. Can’t have it both ways. You either are transparent as you sell your music or you shut the fuck up. So maybe stop having your fuck buddy west an 11 jersey when your album is called 11 11. They want people to talk, they are talking.

Lol it’s like one or two trolls harassing him but they think it’s a whole army from here 🙄 not everyone is as obsessed with him either with hate or love as these people

R148 there was plenty of hate for Andrew the last few days especially with how much Spider-Man is currently being discussed. The difference is it’s less concentrated in one place because Andrew doesn’t have public social media accounts. I think Ben should do the same. That’s how Andrew, R-patz, Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, etc live and they are probably much happier for it

Hugh Jackman hasn’t been tagged in anything on his Instagram since 2019 and it was one thing since 2018 because he has tag approvals on. He doesn’t actually owe his fans the ability and most of it good and bad is pretty cringe anyways so I hope a settings change is a positive thing to come out of the trolling

It‘s not as if it has not been amply stated that he HAS TO MANAGE his bloody SM. Tag approvals are far less work than having to go through the tags and removing yourself.

To the visiting readers: we are not all the same. Most of us came from where you are now. We know you want likes and brownie points from him, that‘s why you are defending us, but all you do is generate more traffic to these threads.

R152 defending him, obviously

I have a question though: how can a 40 year old dude who has had a male roommate for years and was just fucking some model not long ago know anything about real love and what it means to sacrifice for that love? I feel like this album is going to be a tween perspective of adult life because when has BB ever committed in a real way? 🙄 he just uses people.

R154 my thoughts exactly when I read the Canada comments. Stuff he read about. Real love sacrifice, my ass. Real love is so many things. Very little about it is drama. Most of it is everyday life.

This may come as a shock to you, but what the DL/public know about his life is not in fact 100% of his life. Only a fraction of his love life has been made public and even then that’s all been pieced together over a punch of social media scraps. And since when does having a roommate and maybe fucking a model for who knows how long preclude you from having or knowing anything about other relationships? And you are conveniently leaving out the clues of other serious and more mature relationships like Peyton and even Tamsin

R156 As a forty year old myself, I think the previous poster was talking about true love as in lifelong commitments. Reflecting about true love, not about relationships per se. About living together, raising kids together, going through ups and downs of a life together, which is the kernel of true love.

So unless you have found someone to get married and raise kids with by 40 you aren’t allowed to talk about love? What is this the 1940s? As a mid 30s year old who has had a very interesting life with tons of life experiences and a few love interests along the way that have served their purpose even if they haven’t turned into a life long commitment, I strongly disagree. Especially for people that are focused on a successful career. And I have no desire to have children and don’t think that’s the only path in life or the only way to achieve true love. Also a very narrow view of love considering the forum this is on

R158 well thanks for sharing your opinion, we clearly can all state our opinion. I have no interest in conversing about the meaning of love or even your personal life.

From what Ben has presented to the world and also that poem he released after 1 million followers on Instagram I don’t think his music will be what he is trying to sell it as. That interview he did to me was a lot of word salad and made little sense. Art is subjective.

Hollywood especially has this thing where they like to talk about things they know nothing about. He has been corrupted, in my opinion, by this hollywood machine and he romanticizes things. The interview about the old hollywood system where he says it was romantic, how many of those actors came out later in life and said they were horribly abused by those systems and were given no agency and treated like shit.

Yes we don’t know everything about his life nor do I want to, but from we do know I can have an opinion and state that on this forum. Just like the two trolls can talk about JHs black face.

Ha … part 1

Ha… part 2

(Someone here might’ve posted that Anon screenshot 😉)

R160 PS that Twitter account has been temporarily suspended

R156 We have no idea how serious any of his relationships were. Just because he was in pictures with Peyton and Tamsin doesn't mean he hasn't been serious with other women. Hell, it doesn't mean he was even serious with them. Also LoL at people pointing at him fucking a model meaning he can't know what love is? Maybe he loved her. We literally know nothing.

I think the whole music thing will be an embarrassment but I'm ready to reserve judgement on the lyrics front and what deeper meanings exist. TBD. My point is more that people here speak with such certainty about things we really don't know about.

I’m sure all those videos of JH with the baby on her stories yesterday has him pining for her even more now

R163 I see your point but this is datalounge, not the Washington Post, so everybody can surmise what they want. Ben has said in the Gold Digger interviews that somehow finding a partner does not really work out for him, so it‘s not all speculation. Since none of us are hacking into his phone or reading his mail, his own statements are all we can work with.

R165 I don't disagree and of course people will surmise whatever they want, was just bringing us back to reality for a second. I don't personally believe we have enough info to say whether or not he's ever been In true love (according to his own statements about this album, he believes he has been in love or currently is in love.) And I also think it's off base to claim he could never understand love because he fucked a model. LoL. Maybe that was true love for him.

Honestly I hope the guy just gets married soon so we can all know what's going on.

R166 Have a feeling (despite what he said) that Ben would do a ‘David Thewlis’. He got married 5 years ago and nobody knew or figured it out!!!

R167 Rachel Brosnahan did the same thing lol she was apparently married for years before it was casually made public in an acceptance speech or something. I would definitely do that if I were Ben just to avoid all the outrage of the heaving little ones for a bit of marital bliss

For all we know he may have written that 11:11 thing 15 years ago. Maybe he told the Ho about it. We don‘t know that either. All we know is they are emojiing one and other publicly and unashamedly without spending any time together physically.

Her niece needs to get back on tiktok to tell us the tea

R169 Perfect summary! And yes couldn’t agree more R170 😁

Now that I’ve seen it I still think it’s very odd Ben didn’t say anything to promote Reminiscence besides posting pics at the premier. It’s a really good film. And Jimmi should do a proof of life post or something because I haven’t seen him interacting with any Ben or Lisa or ERW content lately which is unusual. Maybe he’s just on a social media hiatus

R136 thanks Lilly for posting that. You know, actually, I really don‘t like him. I don‘t like his voice, I don‘t like his accent, I don‘t like his smile, I hate the way he says „sort of“ all the time. I think I just want someone, anyone, to obsess about and he got in the way. Sobering. Maybe I should quit. But then I love the DL and I want to see the next Episode.

R172 Jimmi had a severe health condition recently, he has done some dubbing it seems, hope he is alright, he seems a very authentic person to me in his own odd way.

R174 oh wow I didn’t know that! And apparently going through his second divorce too! Hope he’s ok

Oh fuck they broke up? Oh no!!

R174 R175 Oh no!! I really like Jimmi - hope he’s ok.

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I hope he has a speedy recovery so he and BB can be wing men for each other and go hoing around London and Budapest to get Ben over this JH obsession

R146 But I don't get it? All everybody's doing is posting all their fanart to his tags!

I guess everyone's a critic..

Remember that account recently called out by BBG?

Check out the comment on this post on BB’s Insta from 2017. Interesting.

R181 Yeah, that account has been around for a long time. I don't remember ever seeing anything trolly from her, but I wasn't looking for it either. *shrug*

R182 I think I saw one mildly admonishing comment about his Covid travelling on the restaurant pic when it got posted on a Dobrev fan page. I think BBG’s possibly calling out the wrong account?

Must be dinner time. He's liking things on Twitter again.

*sigh* *rolls eyes* *whatever else implies exasperation*

R184 Yeah I just saw that and eye-rolled. This account will be “screaming” as has been trying to get his attention for a while. Congrats, love… you finally timed it right and got the content to catch his eye!!

That’s annoying he liked a comment like that. Who cares if one person pushed the dislike button it would be unrealistic for anything anyone does the be universally liked by everyone. I personally don’t agree with the trolling but I also think trolls should just be ignored so I don’t think it’s in his best interest to encourage people to attack anyone that trolls him or simply dislikes him music. It’s just going to fuel the toxic fandom reputation

That’s also they same account who considers herself to be the sub to dom Darkling and has said some pretty weird think lol so maybe he’s just into that

R187 weird things*

also meant to add he has liked her stuff before

R188 Yes. Yes he has liked An Insane Fangirl's tweets before. Also, she named herself appropriately.

Basically how I see all the heaving little ones of the BB fandom waiting for BB to throw them a pitiful like

6 times! It’s going to be battle royal when her and Cindy meet in Paris clamoring for Queen stan status. I’d put my money on this one’s tactics working over cindy’s fucking artwork especially if Ben likes being a dom

His new fans 😂 Cindy has no chance

R191 Oh wow I take it back then, didn’t realise she’d had multiple likes from him! Problem is, he *never* checks their feeds so likes ‘innocuous’ thirst posts while 2 posts back they’ve been fantasising about deep-throating him 🙄

R193 there was some chatter I think on his birthday about him liking a post and then also liking a retweet from that same account which he probably would have had to go to their profile to find because the two posts weren’t close together time wise, so if that’s true then he might look at at least some of the profiles

R194 Unless she @‘d or #’d him on the retweet? I’ve just seen him be incredibly idiotic with his likes on certain accounts and just feel he doesn’t pay enough attention to their bio’s or feeds.

He once liked a fan account’s tweet who’d changed her pfp/header to appear as if she was Netflix.

If he’d taken just a second and looked at her @ he would’ve seen it wasn’t them 🙄

Then there’s this one who is still so mad he hasn’t liked her little tweezer diamond project and thinks everyone but her should stop posting 😂😂😂 case in point for why it would be more diplomatic to just turn off tagging for everyone

Quick JH rant. So sick of her acting like she built FVW herself. That company was established. Danica patrick did the same thing her and nina are doing, attaching their name to the product and shilling it, before Danica started her own wine company. JH did not create this company! All the footage of them developing the wine is for promo, we all know those girls are not sustaining that company. Idk if they now are sole owners, just pisses me off because she just acquired something already established and those initial investors used to highlighted and now they are gone. Idk just annoying.

Ok back to whatever Cindy is doing. Gonna be awkward in Paris that is for sure.

R190 Hahaha brilliant. I can always rely on a laugh from you guys even after a tough day.

Well our 40yr old is still liking insane, young impressionable trolly twitter Barnacle Stan accounts, stiring the pot amongst his fandom while trying to hide his shady 'mysterious life' from his anti-fandom revealing some glimmers of home truths about him.

R173 me too, the more BB is showing his messy ass with his SM interactions with his Barnacle Stans and JH the more I can't stand to look at him, never mind contemplate listening to his music or watch his shows.

R193 R194 He's under a big microscope with DL and I think we're seeing a bit more of BB's secret enjoyment, reveling of his idolised stature, he loves it! I find it hard to piece together a man who painfully hid the majority of his adulthood in the media, scrutinise what he says to people and how people share their life of him to the point of scary controlling behaviour then likes teeny bopper accounts that talk about deep throating him!!! What the fuck!? He's living his best juvenile 40yr old life...living his dream.😏

P.s big fan of Jimmy since his early Always Sunny days, sad to hear he's not doing good health wise and relationship too...speedy health to him

R196 This is the fan who I think is on the cusp of being a serious risk to his safety.

R196 R197 Just imagine what picking up and sticking each little plastic crystal to that template, hour after hour, no sleep, no food, no drink, no human contact … then Ben *doesn’t* *like* *it* !

She must be borderline psychotic by now 😳 ooooh watch out BB!!

So, uh, the Calgary event is 10-11 Sept. Gotta wonder if Benny boy is even planning to return to LA before S&B pre-prod or prod resumes in Canada.

R200 If she comes at home at least all he will have to do is firmly tell her to stop and kneel and she will be thrilled to obey. She’s the one who originally suggested all the fans wait on their knees until he shows up at the con photo session hahaha

I’d be far more worried about his safety around R196 and her pointy tweezers

R202 I hope he doesn’t. His costar Julian was also looking for a place in London for a few months so maybe some pre-production stuff is starting in London first, but it’s not clear how big his role will be he’s basically the Darklings bodyguard still I think

R203 That’s who I was referring to, crystal tweezer psycho.

R205 sorry I was looking at the wrong post. Yeah the anger coming out of tweezy and Cindy towards other fans isn’t going to do them any favors in front of Ben if that’s what they are hoping for 😂 he’s being paid to act like he loves all of them. I hope they aren’t as touchy feely as previous ones. I wouldn’t be surprised if they went virtual again if the flu season plus covid is bad by January and people don’t have booster shots yet

R204 Starting to think that BB & JH came to an abrupt end when he learned about her plans for her monthlong yachting quest, because he knew that meant it was the end of the line for them. To my sleuthing mind, that hashtag (#notgoinganywhere) from the 6/1 Friends post was directed to her & reflects his friendzoning.

R207 but isn’t that also when emojigate started? Weird breakup ritual if true.

I don’t know if this is directed at the DL radicalized trolls or someone else but this made me chuckle 😂

R207 I still wonder why the cover with Lizzy is one of the only ones JH hasn’t liked. Maybe Ben meant his statement about your heart “healing, growing, or bursting with love, magnetized to another” as a signal he was moving on. That was 5 days before his “darling” bday message to her though so I kinda doubt it

R207 My theory is that emojigate started as cute little shows of long-distance support to one another, but morphed when first DL picked up on it & then the Twitterdumb.

R208 Awwwww let me spell it out for you Sky!! You're very young, and therefore, still inescapably selfish. You likely can't help it, don't notice it, but will someday have the chance to change it.

"Some people on here" are full grown adults. We have long ago shed our selfish egos and embraced a full sense of empathy.

No, Ben didn't hurt us personally. But he could easily have hurt lots of OTHER PEOPLE because he engaged in risky behavior despite knowing better with people who regularly demonstrate that they don't care about other people either. And he did it because he wanted to have sex.

I know that doesn't make sense to you now because you still can't see beyond your own desires. Maybe give it ten years or so and return to this moment. You can see if anything has changed then.

I’m a moron & replied to myself. R210 was meant to be reply to R209

The trouble is, since we know his Emoji Stories are Ho related (be it to troll the haters, be it to send her cutesy stuff), so one is tempted to search for messages for her in whatever he does.

R211 it‘s not only about hurting. It was said he had it, so the risk was smaller. But it‘s about solidarity, about making an effort, also about being a role model. Especially after all the instagram lives and posts about it (which, like the emojis, nobody ever forced him to make).

Well if it’s to troll the haters hopefully his untagging/reporting lately of troll accounts that were definitely noticed by fans has made him learn his lesson. Fuck about and find out

R215 he was warned and warned and warned on this very forum that he was playing with fire.

R214 if he has been “caught” traveling with someone less problematic than JH would it be better? To me a lot of the hate he’s getting is due to her. I don’t hate him and I want him to he happy but I think he’s made some wildly stupid decisions and they all tie back to her, so not only is she a problematic person on her own, she’s also a bad influence on him. But if he did have it and felt comfortable (considering the narrative/info at the time) traveling and it was with someone else would this have gone down differently?

R198 I think he has no concept of stanning. Also he doesn‘t get that they change their profile names every five minutes. So he keeps liking the one who attacked Eric Heisserer and will harass anybody who even jokingly teases him. God, I love this shitshow. He is the gift that keeps on giving after a long day at the office, so to speak.

R217. No I don‘t think so. Not if in a restaurant just days after coming back from mega variant city London.

R218 They have also discovered the personal account of one of the people who runs the Netflix Geeked Twitter and have been discussing whether to fight her for calling Ben old. But that person kinda provoked it by liking tweets asking who runs that account and has their job in their profile so they weren’t exactly hiding. Netflix has a very liberal social media approach so I don’t think it’s bad for the company but I certainly wouldn’t want to make my private account known to Darklina twitter 🙄

Adding to R217. You have to think back what it was like xmas 2020. People could not visit their dying relatives in hospital, there were no tests, to vaccines. We tend to forget how bad it was then, because now things are easier. The icecream pap walk, licking each other‘s cones was already unpleasant, Covid-wise.

R209 that was the same post that Darren Criss left a trolly message when he was with JH in Italy and then they immediately posted a 'crappy' drunk duet on insta...and Darren still hasn't liked anynof BB music posts so far after Ben liked 2 of his music releases last week! They are trolly as fuck...BB and his Barnacles needs to sort those trolls out first before coming for us, Nina too.

R206 BB is going to seriously need to up his protection when at cons from his Barnacle Stans he's been liking on twitter/ig, getting them all worked up about him, liking all their fantasised thirst/godlike posts. What a shmuck he didn't think it through, they've all been homebound and for most their first/moderate long distance travel is going to see him!!! They're going to eat him alive like zombies from the walking dead💀

R211 R214 that's the core issue and everything that unfolded from that since then!

R217 It’s threefold:

1) He didn’t practice what he’d preached to his followers about staying home. Four-fucking-thousand people/day were dying in the US alone at the time he was traveling.

2) He went from the UK to Montana without the mandated quarantine period between countries.

3) He met up with a repeat, Covid-traveling offender, which indirectly meant exposing untold #s of people if he’d passed something from the UK to her, Nina, or Shaun.

R223 I don‘t know the US rules. Did he have to quarantine as on officially recovered person?

R224 You entered from or into another country, you quarantined. There were no special exemptions or caveats. And if he’d had Covid, which we surmise was thereabouts last March after WW S3 event, then he was long past the immunity grace period by late December.

R222 and he still doesn‘t get it. He still thinks he‘s entitled to mock and educate. Like with instaboobgate, that might have gone worse, naked teenagers and Hollywood don‘t mix well at all these days. I don‘t mean the accidental liking before somebody whips out Chris Evans. I mean the darklinas‘ reaction as in offering themselves up to him. He feels he has the right to only get the good things from fame and is unwilling in a stubborn way to realize that it is his responsibility to accept the downsides, like being forced to behave in a certain way.

R224 the rules technically weren’t different between people who did and didn’t have it, so IF he had been in the UK he should have quarantined according to CDC. He was in a state with one of the most relaxed approaches to covid in the country through which is why people were eating indoors which wasn’t allowed in some other places at the time. So he wasn’t breaking those local guidelines but was breaking overall CDC recommendations. This is also all based on one pic placing him in the UK which still doesn’t really have me convinced he was there because there, but that’s what other people are taking as evidence as the cross border travel.

R224 Furthermore, public officials were BEGGING everyone to stay the fuck home for every holiday, because there were huge spikes after memorial day, july 4, labor day, and thanksgiving.

R225 I am suspecting he had it last August, same as Rob. I checked Robs cameo, and he made a message in the same position, same clothes, same hair, same still TV reflection, declaring how he was looking forward to use cameo. I‘m fairly sure that was last year. But hypothesis of course.

R225 we have no idea for sure when he had covid and we still have no idea how long natural immunity lasts, so that statement about a mythical immunity grace period is complete bullshit lol

R227 it was the botany and the time of the posting. (Around 11 am UK time, which is 3 am LA - as we all know thanks to JH)

R230 - I think that was only an EVEN IF

R230 Tell that to the public health officials who were saying 3-4 months. Better yet, tell that to my friend who’s the head of a California public health dept or to my childhood friend who’s the former acting FDA commissioner. They’re the literal medical and professional experts.

No fighting, you are not disagreeing!!!

R233 this was from the NIH in December when there was still a much more optimistic view about long term natural immunity and the new variants had barely been sequenced yet especially in the US. If you can surface something from that time from the medical professionals that says 3-4 months I’m happy to read it and stand corrected, but I don’t remember any one talking about an immunity window at the time and I’ve been part of an antibody study for the last year specifically tracking potential long term immunity so if that were the case I probably would have heard about it I’ve been following it pretty closely

R214 It was said by who though. He never said it. And merely seeing "people caught it at the Westworld premiere" in no way *confirms* that he has ever had it.

If you have a legitimate source that explicitly says Ben had it please share. Otherwise it is a very big assumption to believe he ever had it, full stop.

(Of course, if true, that would still make me wonder why he bothered to wear a mask when outdoors in the dogsled video. Did he think he could catch/spread it or didn't he?)

It was the poster who claimed to have fucked him, who also claimed he had Covid. (Checked that with the ignore button back then to make sure it was none of our multiples)

R218 also another gift that keeps on giving...which I'm sure he's shares....herpes!😂

R226 It's annoying how he plays the bumbling British 'oh I don't know anything' persona in his interviews he likes to play on que when he's challenged.

R227 R231 BB also spoke of going home to the UK in the mount wolf interview and got quite animated when discussing the topic as he 'definitely was not missing out on going home for Xma' -not the exact words but thereabouts. I'm too lazy to direct quote. so we don't need proof, the dumb ass said it himself on camera!

R235 oh yeah I remember you popped up before on old threads with this study you did!

236 I think he was being extra cautious as he knew he had been jumping about and was hiding his face from people's cameras as in the video alot of people were taking photos of the beautiful huskies...that's another reason why we think Nina dropped him in it, low-key trolled him. He was with them and in every photo video he hid away.

R236 I assume masks were required by the company who was taking them dog sledding. They were even required at some ski resorts outside like while on the chair lift and stuff so it wasn’t completely unusual to use them outside. I was in a nearby state with similar weather at the time and didn’t mind the mask for staying warm either haha

Would breaking quarantine be a felony in the US?

R239 the Ho and the Do were not wearing them. Neither the Sho.

R240 no no covid rules were enforced basically anywhere haha this country is way too obsessed with freedom for that. I think in some of the bluer states they were giving out fines for not wearing masks, but that’s about it. Certainly not in Montana. I think the FAA changed their rules under the Biden administration so it could be at least a misdemeanor to refuse to wear a mask, but even that cant be as serious as a felony if I’m remembering correctly. And this all went down when trump was still President and every state and business was basically doing their own thing

I meant the disregard of an isolation order. Not wearing masks.

R242 correction: the FAA rule is in relation to wearing a mask while flying. Everywhere else the federal government didn’t have jurisdiction and it was up to states for various mandates but they were basically recommendations because they weren’t enforced (except in the court of public opinion of course, as evidenced by the reaction to BB here)

R243 yes sorry I was using mask mandates as an example of one of the few things they were enforcing, but they were not enforcing quarantine. There basically weren’t any isolation orders in the US, just isolation recommendations by the CDC which is a federal agency but doesn’t have the ability to enforce any covid rules, that’s up to the states and even at the state level the legality of enforcement was challenged in court or was avoided all together. The government system and culture in the US is uniquely disadvantaged at dealing with public health crisis

R239 Exactly R241, Ben was the only one wearing a mask on that trip. If the dogsled company did require it, the others disregarded it, which also makes Ben look bad in the company he keeps way.

R238 Technically a possibility, but he literally needs professional help with his paranoia, but also like his fans aren't going to recognize that bright orange beanie so he's an idiot!

Btw, the one who bitterly complains about us, has this to say about the Ho. They are in denial.

LOL “everyone knows she’s unstable” what a thing to have said about your potential current or ex GF 😂 maybe Ben is just keeping her around as a pet therapy “I can fix her” project and the emojis are the type of interaction only suitable for her level of intelligence and mental capacity

Their theory, it appears to be (read that in several places) is that the Ho is insane and unstable and tried to get his attention/gain some shade or whatever. Which is true too, but he is a willing participant.

LoL R247 This girl isn't wrong about a large number of posts here. We definitely over analyze, spend too much time talking about JHo and think he's linked to every woman he's been in a picture with. Wish I could say she was wrong but alas.

She seems to read every word we say though

And my fav:

R250 lol true but there’s at least some self awareness of that here and attempts to temper it with different viewpoints and healthy debate that occasionally devolves into unhealthy debate. I’m not aware of harassing anyone just because they have met Ben so I don’t know what that’s referring to

R250 we all readily admit we are totally addicted to this hobby. No pretense here, dear StarlessSaint39. I bet you shiver with fear everytime to come here, afraid something new about the crackhead came out, as you put it.

R253 The self awareness helps, I agree. We know who we are.

Re: harassing perhaps they meant NYC girl. I don't think I've seen other harassment here aside from her. Stalking PL's old Pinterest doesn't count in my book.

But if they are referring to making fun of some fans because of their ridiculous behavior then we absolutely do that lol and she’s dishing is right back which is her right. We clearly don’t all have the same opinion here and aren’t all trolling him on social media just like not all his fans are crazy, but if he didn’t want some of his actions analyzed then he wouldn’t leave secret messages to be found in his posts. I guarantee you many of those girls criticizing the behavior here are also Taylor Swift fans and this is their specialty, so it’s ok when it fits their narrative but not ok with Ben

R255 yeah, that was not *us*, as far as we exist. StarlessSaint39, you are dangerously close to the same assumptions we have made … as you are live reading us tonight, please elaborate on twitter, why Julianne Hough hid a black 40 on that lion‘s nose, which she postet at 11:11 London time on his birthday?

So, Deborah, you are a control freak too, hm?

R257 Are you referring to me as the twitter poster? LoL. I am most certainly not her.

Can someone enlighten Deborah that oh, indeed, Jack did follow Julianne, as did Rob. And Ben just recently followed Derek Hough, and her mom is following him … ah, Deborah … my heart aches for you.

R259 no, I am referring to her. She is reading us tonight. So I thought, I might talk to her directly.

Also wasn’t is Cindy who was harassing his friends and family by sneaking in and following their private accounts and posting pics from private Instagrams? Didn’t Jack have to kick her out? So we are definitely not the crazy ones

Cindy is harassing BB

I like how she absolves his Covid-traveling transgression because it was last year. Those 600k people who died? Last year. So 2020.

And StarlessSaint and Deborah. If you ever want the chance to say something to Ben he really notices and reacts to, you have to join this forum. Isn‘t it tempting? You know he reads this …

LMAO “keep the crazy to yourselves” tell that to tweezy and Cindy who are either having a mental breakdowns for not getting likes because they are mad Ben now has too many fans and doesn’t see everything they do or baselessly attacking one or a group of people for the actions of another. And then there’s Ainhoa having a picnic by herself and coming up with a thousand different birthday ideas and is worryingly obsessed with him. I hope they all get well soon because they have some issues to work through

Muahahahha! So, Starlybabes, how do you explain HIS hidden emojis? I wanna know …

Oops

R252 Cindy literally posted a pic from a private Instagram that said “you can’t hide from us” or something like that lol so fucking creepy

I think the Darklinas and Cindies are at odds as well.

At least we can all agree JH fucking sucks even if we express it in different ways. Could be worse

R264 How many times can I like this? Only ONE?!? Fuck you DL!!!

So StarlessSaint, let me spell it out for you: we think it would be better for Ben to stop trolling around with JH! You should agree to that! That is our message here.

She has clearly not seen Ben’s side of all this activity because she blocks everyone who even mentions him in a mean way

You think she does not know Ben started the entire Emoji shit with the football post? With the SAME LION ON HEART? And then kept on and on with fairies? Oh sweet summerchild.

Look, if Psycholina’s theory is that JH is trolling DL, then how does she explain his obvious complicity? He’s also trolling DL? Ben, since we know you read this, you got Covid because you fucked a Covid-traveling loon. She prob also gave you herpes. You wanna know who’s gonna get the last laugh? Circle back for our full-length LP, Songs From the DL.

R276 - we KNOW this is all DL trolling gone very bad and have alerted to it a million times. Don‘t feed the trolls! Even if that troll is me (I‘m not one of the trolls, I‘m just one of those who thinks he is stupid for leaving his flank open and deserves no better).

It’s interesting seeing such denial in real time. I can almost hear Ben quoting “Reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. That was their final, most essential command.” He must be proud of his little Orwellian barnacles

R277 He clearly needs more work, then. He has far too much idle time for someone who thinks he’s a serious thespian and musician. He should maybe spend that time revamping his Raya profile.

I must prefer this side of the fandom. If it comes to fandom war the Billy Russo cult is who I’d want on DL’s side

Slight change of pace for a moment.. These were really funny when they first popped up last year. But for some reason I just can't put my finger on, it just got hilarious!

Okay, carry on!

R281 he looks younger than all them and he’s 40 😂 whoever picked that filter is was counterproductive to the point they were trying to make

R280 LOL!!!!

R280 I‘m sure he liked her stuff too.

R280 Maybe she got a preview of the lyrics to Ben's next single???

R285 #Ishootmyloadat50feet

Eleven:Eleven I thought this was heaven A fay on a lion You weren‘t a shy‘un You broke me apart With a pulsating heart.

R286 Oh my word, that’s awesome.

Eleven:Eleven … Cross the land aboard a 747 … Yeah we‘re living in .. in a Covid world

R284 I’ve got a distinct feeling he did in past but can’t be bothered checking.

R290 but then they all look the same.

R284 R290 Forgot to say, that’s what I meant upthread about them saying they wanted to deep-throat him or whatever sexual act/kink they fantasise about! And then along trips Ben 2 tweets later and likes one of their more low key thirst posts.

Shaking in my boots.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Yes, honey, you had no idea. Care to join in?

R293 Oh my Lord!!! Are a chill pill, dear. You’ll have an aneurysm otherwise!

R296 *Take*

R294 I was cryyyying when I met you, now I‘m crying coz I‘ll meet you, my life is sweeet misery! I was crying just to bait you, now I‘m cryyying coz I made youuuu, like all my post and you will cry tooooo

R294 I do feel kinda bad making fun of her because I think she’s definitely not all there mentally or going through an especially strong parasocial relationship phase fueled by adolescent hormones, but to quote her friend: keep the crazy to yourself!!!

R296 you mean an Ainhoarism?

R296 Did you literally shaking in my flip-flops here in SF? 😂

R300 That too! 😁

Darlin’ the only shakin’ is from laughter. The only one who should be scared of her psychotic ass is BB. I find the Twitterdumb to be mindbogglingly stupid. Is she stabbing voodoo dolls? Chanting over cauldrons?

R303 no she is manifesting and crying as it is Ainhoa in her Twitter embodiment.

I‘m fairly certain, if he has to meet one of his *fan* groups, it would be the DL. At least we are fun.

I slightly blame Ben for encouraging them by liking that tweet earlier today but also I hope he’s at least slightly amused when he reads this thread because I am shaking with laughter too 😂 All while dialing up his manager to arrange personal security for the cons of course. They are going to come at him or eachother with their tweezers and knitting needles and it will not end well

I totally blame him. He likes one and then they escalate to get his attention. He knows what he's doing.

R305 oh yes, the diamond carpet lady is French!

R305 I’m going to be super interested to see how close they’re going to let them get to him at these cons? Like - any more koala-like hugging still allowed? What procedures and requirements are they going to put in place? Vaxxed, negative tests??

R304 We are hilarious who wouldn’t want to (at least for the moderate DLers)

R307 French Canadian. One of her other meltdowns was because he wasn’t going to the correct part of Canada. She so entitled

Ben, you have to like the Diamond lady. Please, for all of our sakes. Feature her in a fanart story, or she will tear out Ainhoa‘s hair. Also, tell Cindy to show her blanket, it‘ll be fine. They all donated thousands of Euros to SU2C and preordered your single on all platforms.

R293 R294 This isn't just a language translation barrier. She is literally. . . is developmentally disabled an acceptable term these days? Talking about her is the peak definition of punching down. Way, way, waaaaaayyyyyy down.

If he‘s lucky they and he will all wear masks. Also good because he can‘t bring a filter.

R308 BB will only do zoom chats from another room or will do a David blaine and isolate himself in a clear 360⁰ box in the cons.😂

DL you've had me laughing all night thanks 👌🏾

I’m just worried what’ll happen if they have to postpone any of these cons for Covid surgery reasons or suchlike. Seriously - there will be an absolute meltdown.

Umm, did ANYBODY here think that???

R313 He really doesn’t have a clue what he’s in for. I’m guessing most previous con attendees have at least been late teens/twenties. The Paris one is going to be a whole hall full of teenage hormones!! 🤣

R315 Well, we wouldn’t past him for shagging a girl in her early 20s. But Lizzy is too homely for him.

R315 Lol WHAT? That girl has some reading comprehension skills. If you are going to spread hate at least be truthful about it

R315 Well this proves we're safe from Cryin-hoa DL. All of this OBVIOUSLY is in no way related to us. They're all clearly talking about Cheryl.

I basically picture them like this

Who the fuck is Cheryl?! I swear Cindy made her up as her alter ego and she’s responsible for at least half the memes Ross didn’t do

R314 but BB will be happy, relieved😅 he doesn't want to see this shit in real time.

R316 He's fucked, he will have to pull out his best acting chops to say 'he's soo happy to see them' to their near enough face😂

R315 BB is using his Jedi mind tricks on them, thick and fast!

R315 I really don’t think so! Seem to remember someone asking if she shot her vid story (that she posted later that day) was at Ben’s place.

But that was because they just wanted to know if the piled-up boots in the foreground were his!

And also because it would have been a previously unseen part of his house!!

They’re DELUSIONAL!

R314 That was “Covid surge” reasons btw. Thanks again predictive text!!

R321 Well it was either Boil His Bunny or dissociate into Cheryl cause Ben isn't giving her as much one on one attention with all the new younger model fans he has now.

Shame.

I thought we had established that we are all Cheryl.

R315 I’m fairly sure everyone here has been only complementary about many of his actual friends like Zelda and Brooke and Chloe and his costars Katherine, Amber, etc and also so positive about Floriana that one of them literally came here to attack us for it! I think mostly everything was nice comments about Lizzy too besides some jokes that he likes girls her age in relation to the account of young girls HE liked. So I’m not going to bother going back and finding references to all the evidence but there are actually tons of examples that disprove everything they said here and it’s embarrassing for them how poorly they can read yet speak with authority about it on Twitter lol

What was in the box? What was in the booooox?

He looked like Lizzy‘s enthusiastic and slightly unkempt piano teacher. We all know the guy.

R328 Which box?

If she had read carefully, she would also have read that apart from one personS, nobody was moved the slightest by the knowledge of him having casual relationships with models, but thought it totally normal. It is THE HO that freaks everybody out, including herself.

R330 Reference to Se7en. Adding to the bunny-boiling.

The Ho uses the crassest filters on herself with no shame.

I have ever maintained that I don't care where he puts his dick because it will never be anywhere near me. I'm not delusional to think that I could ever be with him. I think he does seem like a user supreme, and I get the impression that he's fucked and dumped quite a few women along the way. I think Peyton seemed fine except for the shirt that he wore to the punisher season 2 premiere. He was a giant fuckin hypocrite about the covid stuff. He can fuck Jules til he goes blind from syphilis for all I care.

R334 thanks Cheryl

R332 Ahhh ok! Thanks 🤣

R333 I’m still reeling from the fact that she posted that story of herself yesterday in the mask!! That was so fucking scary looking. She must’ve thought she looked good??!!

Anyhow, all the little ponies are startled right now but give them a quiet night and they’ll be back to their usual thirst-posting tomorrow.

R334 Hahaha, I like that you blame that God-awful shirt on PL. That was one fugly get-up.

I’m going to laugh when 11:11 comes out and it’s very obvious it is about her and they all have a meltdown about it. She has over 1k followers so all she’s doing is getting the word out that it was actually more than just friends with JH and it will either be enough to start the speculation and sluthing themselves or they will come here looking for answers. That’s the problem with trying to be the Ben Barnes protection squad, it only stirs the pot more and makes people more curious and then people look for things and jump to right and wrong conclusions

R338 that‘s exactly how it goes. She just created new converts. Like Angelique …

R338 Yup. She’s sending straight here for the intel. She’s inadvertently spreading the gospel of Ross.

R327 Remember dear, this is also the same sort of fan that came in here and accused us of literally doxing his address. They're very obviously either 1. Not talking about us but the new round of "filth" making its way through Twitter after emojigate became fully realized in the fandom, or 2. Goddamn fucking morons who failed the SAT reading comprehension section or whatever children take these days.

And I'm literally at 50/50 between those two. The main core of us here are proud of the way we actually "troll him." Show us the barest respect and site your sources accurately children!!

R340 Is she Cheryl?!? Is she secretly working with Ross?!?!?

R342 Ross’s learning-impaired intern

R341 they are all slobbering on this thread hoping somebody would dox his address. Hypocrites.

How much y’all think BB gets paid to deal with the shitshows of these events? Thousands, tens of thousands, or base pay + % of ticket sales?

R345 guess that depends. Might be the distributor (Netflix) is handling all the shit, making the money and he may be contractually obliged to go? Gets flight plus hotel and over? Otherwise I‘m sure there‘s a fix amount, I‘d think 10.000 dollars and flight/hotel/food

I am definitely not part of the trolling and proud crowd here in terms of taking it back to social media and I somewhat resent them thanking that’s all that happens on these threads because it’s definitely not all hatred here, but I don’t know if I’m in the majority or minority since we have no idea how many participate here regularly and it seems to have been growing. But I do appreciate the discussion it’s been an entertaining distraction especially for the people who have good enough critical reasoning skills to not fit into the other parts of the fandom who just blindly follow him no matter what. Ben and JH have created this game between themselves and if they didn’t expect people to play along then they wouldn’t do it on a public forum it’s as simple as that. Honestly I wish he was better at it because I enjoy the speculation about his career and would rather it be about that then his love life, but that’s not the phase of life he seems to be in right now. I just hope JH and this game don’t have any detrimental impacts on his career prospects, which is why I’m eager to disprove its as childish as it appears but so far no such luck

R346 That’s on par with what I was guessing. Maybe a smidge higher since he is now the star guest with an additional ticket.

R345 R346 R348 This article’s from 2018 but I doubt much has changed.

R349 Holy shit. Well. That explains why he feeds the Twitterbumb — while he doesn’t command Chris Evans cash, he can still pay off his mortgage or bankroll remodeling with these events.

R349 Sorry *2016*

That’s why I don’t understand why he bothers with the personal headache and risk of managing his own social media when he could easily maintain a relationship with his fans and get paid a shit ton of money to do it through conventions. They can also make a shit ton of money working out promotional deals for their projects on their social media so you could also argue it’s worth it to keep it for that, but he could easily be one of those stars who goes quiet when it’s not work related and he certainly does not have to leave it as a free-for-all tagging mine field that is used by both trolls and crazed fans alike. And he could easily find a way to host fan art Friday some other way like via tag approvals or DM submissions or submissions to a fan site. If he’s going to keep growing his fan base hopefully his manager is advising him on some of this because it’s just common sense these days in this industry. I’m surprised he hasn’t hired a privacy consultant

I think JH is implying on her story that sliding into people’s DMs is her new life lol so good riddance leave BB along and go hit on some blue checked muscle

R353 May whatever powers there be make it so!!

R353 R354 All while BB is publicly pining for her via his 🎹 That would make me 🤢 from 50 feet.

R353 R354 R355 Funny how she’s suddenly talking about DM’s when she was just in a football stadium yesterday with a load of very rich, very ripped football players, no? 😉

R356 We love to see it!

But also fuck her for breaking Benny B’s heart if that’s what happened and I hope she never finds happiness

Do you think she forgot to type out the rest of her Tweet or is this the new way to try and get his attention?

[quote] That’s why I don’t understand why he bothers with the personal headache and risk of managing his own social media

I don't either, especially after listening to his wistful comments about the old Hollywood studio system upthread. I feel like he implied that he would have preferred those days when all you had to do was show up and act, and the stars could behave however they wanted to in their private lives because there was the massive machinery of a studio creating and selling totally fake public personas FOR them.

[R360] My takeaway was that he viewed it as guaranteed handful of films, without competing with so many for so few plum jobs now.

Hey, Sleuth! Danielle Galligan has re-activated her IG, yet BB remains at 249. Who kicked it?

R362 Oh well spotted! I’ll get on it 😉

R361 but if you look at the data it’s actually the opposite now compared to then with the streaming company wars competing with the traditional studios for movies and TV and the 180 degree turn in the reputation of TV acting there’s more roles and investment than ever in entertainment which makes me wonder if he has poor agent/manager representation. I think he’s romanticized view if it is because they only really had to act and live the glamorous life of a movie star that the public only saw rare snippets of through pictures taken at public events and the celebrity culture was a lot less invasive to the rest of your life

R364 Agreed! Just relaying what I heard him say in the beginning of that vid

Ok I am not Cheryl. I have only ever worked with Sylvia and The Sleuth.

R362 I wonder if Danielle got attached for using “shadow daddy” in her BB bday post. She said she was going on a social media hiatus and then deactivated and I seem to remember that was only a few hours after her bday story, so it’s weird she’s back so soon but maybe it was just for the weekend

R367 attacked*

Although I did pass along some Fresh Vine memes to wandavision coz I can't be bothered.

For those of you who were worried about Jimmi.

If Netflix doesn’t make Ben do this with Darklina Twitter tweets like those above to promote season 2 then they are useless

R366 Well we all know here, we're just making our own Cheryl "memes." Cause that's a thing now. Also R369 #humblebrag

R370 then Ben must not be his special little British blessing anymore because he has stopped liking/commenting on anything of his. Glad he’s at least alive or else his captors are remaining active on his SM throughout the hostage situation but not doing a very good job

R362 R363 I’m struggling to see who else has dropped out tbh… I’ll try again in the morning if someone else hasn’t worked it out by then. The original deactivating Emma Mackey is still not back yet but that would have taken him to 251.

R371 That’s hilarious. Absolutely they need to get Ben to do that!

He’s at 250 now so didn’t Danielle just make it go back to normal?

R376 Mine still shows 249, how bizarre. Maybe that’s why it all matches my last screen record which was 250. Each I’ll check it later and see what’s what!

R377 ‘Yeah’ not each!!

R374 Thanks for checking!!

Damn I wasn't trying to #humblebrag. It was more of a full disclosure thing.

I still cannot believe they are together, but I get why he never goes on these family trips if they are. Can you imagine BB just sitting there watching all these white woman dance around making tiktok videos. Watching that one sister dance ugh these are the worst kind of people. BB run! Republicans from Montana, run.

R381 Nothing about her makes any sense with him. Nothing.

Is this the pic people have referred to before of Peyton with Ben at the Punisher premier? I wish they had stayed together they make a beautiful couple

Now that we know that Pinterest was for sure Ben’s and some of those shared boards with Peyton were edited as recently as 10 and 12 months ago (with oldest shared one being edited 2-3 years ago) and he painted his dining room one of the colors on that board in around March 2020, my theory is that they were still together in 2019 and during the time he was filming S&B in Budapest. And that’s why she’s in Rob’s citizenship pics from Feb 2020 right before S&B wrapped (either invited as Ben’s gf because they are all close or maybe she was even living in the house at that time?). Then they broke up sometime early in the pandemic after he got home but they were still together or it was amicable enough at the time that he still used one of the paint colors she had picked out in March 2020. The punisher premier pic is from January 2019 and that Maltin on Movies podcast, where he seemed to almost say “much to the chagrin of my girlfriend” before catching himself when talking about playing his music too much, was recorded in December 2018 which would have aligned with her maybe living/staying with him in London while he was shooting gold digger at the end of 2018. She might also have been a good enough reason for him to skip out on the punisher S2 wrap party. In interviews about S&B he also said he almost didn’t take the part because he’s done the thing of moving to Eastern Europe and leaving behind friends and family for months to film and it makes sense he would be more hesitant to take that if he were in a relationship in 2019 than if he were single. Using Pinterest boards to discuss redecorating is also something that can be done long distance when you can make couple trips to Home Depot. His first pap walk with JH was in April 2020 which was shortly after he used the Peyton-influenced blue paint color in March, so if this theory is close to correct I sincerely hope he didn’t break up with PL for JH once it seems like JH might be single again for his WHMS moment 🤢

R383 He’s got the exact same ‘happy face’ in that pic as in the pic of him, Anna’s husband and PL in May 2019.

R384 Interesting theory. It’s always possible but as usual we’ll probably never know. The pics that do exist of them have zero loved-up chemistry to my mind but perhaps that just BB paranoia?

R377 R379 Yup follow count back to 250 so maybe my app needed a few hours to update the actual number *shrugs* although DG’s actual account was showing on the list.

Thank you for this thread phrase: Welcome to The Den of Eternal Disappointment. It's really just perfect.

Benny, if you threw Peyton over for JHo, we like you even less. If you rebounded with JHo as her marriage disintegrated, well, then… you were clearly in a really low place, lacking all judgment whatsoever.

Since his Gold Digger interviews were given in late 2019, I believe P and he broke up then. The rushing with little romance must refer to her.

R389 What is that quote? I’ve read/watched a shit ton of GD interviews, but unsure to what you’re referring

R389 we recently had it up here. He said in it that it was difficult to build a relationship, when he always has to go off for months, and that it feels rushed and not very romantic.

R389 As usual I could be wrong, but I’m not convinced it was that long-term or even anything serious between them. I’ve always really got a ‘true good friends’ vibe off them (not the so-called ‘just friends’ with JH thing).

R295 really interesting times we live in, where 16 year old girls with usernames like @DarklingOneBestSlut who regularly broadcast how they are going to (insert your BB fetish), think they can lecture us on obsessive, inappropriate behavior.

Yeah I could be wrong, but it’s hard to tell chemistry from a still photo so I don’t really know if I get friend or more vibes from him. Ben will always look annoyed when there are paparazzi nearby. I think the Pinterest board, their edit timeframe and use of a paint color, the fact he was willing to be seen with her at the punisher premier (in NY?), her sighting in London, and her attendance to robs little citizen thing make me think it was more than just friends and covered that time frame. I don’t think a friend would plan Pinterest boards with him and his mom unless they have been like best friends for years, and I don’t think she would travel across the country or pond to see him if it were just friends too. He also mentioned he had visitors in Budapest that he took to that castle but that could have just been his family. We will never know for sure or if there was overlap with whatever happened with JH, but the Pinterest boards and any sign of Peyton seemed to vanish even though he’s actually been in LA for a long time now

R398 Ah, well, BB, that speaks to the growing apart that occurs in LDRs.

I did watch an interview where he spoke to the difficult personal choices/sacrifices he’s had to make throughout his career, when choosing roles. So my sense is that… he would love local projects that enabled him to have both and not keep having to choose the job over the relationship. And that the pandemic was his first opportunity to explore or pursue something while stationed at home for an extended period of time. Thus he glommed onto JH. Prob saw her as his pandemic #silverlining That’s my two cents

I'm so incredibly disappointed and confused by his behavior. I truly am trying to be open minded about it but I'm struggling. He says one thing, does another. Hypocritical to a point where I've sincerely lost trust in him. I'm a firm believer in actions speaking louder than words and the things he "likes" on social media are lacking in substance. He peddles himself as this good-guys-finish-last type and everything else we have been saying for years here but then his actions... I mean, wtf?!

R394 Sadly he didn’t look too unhappy on the 2 JH papwalks 🤢

I hear what you say, and it’s all perfectly possible. but he and PL have been friends for a while (which would include Rob, Chiké too), since at least 2016 if not earlier. There was a ‘plus 2 guy’ at the Punisher launch apparently. Visiting him in London is more indicative of a relationship, definitely. But all built on speculation because BB never confirms/denies anything.

R397 Honestly, if this was some female friend if yours, you know you’d be telling her that all of these clues, signs indicate that he was *with* PL. The writing is on the wall. I just hope their relationship was open during the time period that seems to overlap with Pixie snd possibly Rayana.

I believe Rayana was in 2016 during season 1 shooting so no overlap if Peyton happened starting in 2018. I have no idea when/if Pixie is suspected of fitting in to all this.

R399 it was 2016 into 2017 - then Pixie 2017 into 2018,, then went to London for GD - what did he do in early 2019?

R380 And for my part, I have only worked with Sleuth and SmartAss and maintained two anti-BB IG accounts. Neither of which is WandaVision. I have no clue who WV is, and I have next to no Twitter presence. All of those people on Twitter really are multiples of fans with legitimate gripes about Benny, there's no mastermind behind this situation, unless it's SmartAss for his unflagging efforts to get the word out.

R398 Hey - chill. All I’m saying that as always it’s all built on speculation as per BB usual MO. I’ve gone to events with close friends of the opposite sex, visited them abroad, helped them choose houses or apartments as well as decor. Not impossible for it to have been a relationship, not impossible for it to have been close friends. We just have no confirmation and probably never will. And if a relationship then it seems to be over so another one consigned to history.

And the Pinterest board which we’re convinced is his, now has 3 followers. Ana32 and Marie. So, actual new BB friends or DL lurkers from Twitter? I don’t think any DLers would’ve been stupid enough to alert him by following it?

Also, has anybody ever checked what PL was working on at the same time? If she was even in LA when he was there? My wild guess: they were set up by friends, there was mutual sympathy, but not enough luv to go the distance.

R403 Could be - she was in his friend circle anyway from at least 2016.

I really love all of those speculations here. Since I work in the creative part of the industry, my juices are always flowing after a session on the BB DL. Wonderful. I should find out if I can deduct the 1.99 from my taxes.

R405 It’s what we do!!! The DL Schtick. Speculationville.

Because Barnes leaves us no choice!

Of course it will always be speculation, but If these things don’t all add up to BB being in a relationship with PL at some point then I don’t know what will. Seems like more evidence for PL than what we have for JH but also different. Being part of the friend group first might have made it more organic if it grew into something more vs some Raya thing, though there’s some overlap with this suspected PL timeline and when he was seen on Raya so maybe it was a more open let’s see where it goes thing for a while especially when it was long distance. The two additional followers besides Peyton on Pinterest are new because when he first change the name all but Peyton were gone due to the existing of the two public shared boards. So they are either DL or lurking fans I assume

Ypu‘re welcome, Anna and Marie. Guess it‘s lurkers.

I imagine JH and BB getting in a fight in April/May about BB’s choice of the blue wall color once they start hanging out since it was the influence of some other woman and JH fancies herself an interior designer 😂 he said his plants in his video background were a gift from a friend so I wonder if PL or JH gave him that and if he found the eclipse picture all on his own. Guess we’ll never know. Maybe once he goes through another decoration change we can guess it might be the influence of someone new

R407 You’re convinced, I’m not, we’ve just got differing viewpoints and that’s fine - we live for that here, after all!

Waiting to see if the Pinterest board disappears now….

I personally am sick of all this speculation I look forward to him being back with the wholesome S&B cast and actually working again. Obviously I still participate in the speculation so not sick enough to leave yet, but it turns out it’s not that fun to speculate when you never actually get the reward of finding out if you were right or wrong 😂

R411 it‘s my job and my vocation to always imagine the most outlandish things, I therefore regard it as exercise. I like it best when the DL discovers something which at first seems totally random and speculative, like the lion on her shirt, that then grows into this big thing, and nobody really knows who reacted to what. It‘s like the butterfly wing causing a hurricane.

Plus BB still being so idiotic to react and confirm by changing accounts etc. It is just so tempting to push his buttons.

Remember when we thought for like 2 mins BB was in a love triangle with FL and Chris Evans because the CE fandom was doing the same thing we do here with reading into social media too much and it created a fandom crossover on FL 😂 good times. I’m still disappointed BB isn’t going to be in the True Blood reboot he could have taken his bad guy craft to a new level. We just get this music video about JH instead

Ir‘s so cute how he always changes his little names. Call yourself JaneMyers1969 and nobody will ever know who you are buddy.

R415 where? Who is Jane Myers?

I think it’s hilarious that the fandom lurkers mostly pick up all the ‘scandals’ here first. Otherwise they’d be *totally* in the dark.

DL Sleuths rule!

Don't forget that the Peyton age was the dawn of the "woo her with songs on IG age." First was the David Bowie major Tom remix that went on the public IG by accident, then all the jealous guy stuff. I think it became his way of publicly acknowledging her without coming right out and saying HEY WE'RE TOGETHER in an attempt to appease her.

R416 it‘s Cheryl.

No, I just invented some random woman‘s name that he could use when creating a new profile wherever. He seems to have this thing of things having simbolsm and connection.

OMG I can’t with this Cheryl nonsense. I’m doing to assume Cheryl is Cindy’s alter ego and the DL is her villain origin story because I’m still so confused on what/who Cheryl actually is

R420 going*

R420 nobody knows who Cheryl is. It‘s a running gag. Whenever somebody trolls BB, we now accuse Cheryl of it, because Cindy called her out, believing she was all of us.

Cheryl is the Karen of the BB universe

[R414] that speculation about CE and FL is still ongoing out there 😂

It‘s so funny, BB could completely bore us out. Yet he doesn‘t. If his Pinterest had remained unchanged, nobody would have thought about it anymore or reported about it. Same with the old private insta.

R424 oh god is there anything new/interesting? I can’t keep up with another fandom this one already occasionally seems to interfere with my day job when an emoji emergency arises that my brain unfortunately still thinks is interesting

Edit R425 gettit Benny, we are just like your twitter and insta fangirls. We thrive on your reactions to us. We are just as egocentric as they are. They celebrate your likes, we celebrate your panicky reactions.

Deuxmoi has been falsely building up the CE girlfriend speculation because they are trying to save face after saying something that turned out to be completely wrong and leading the whole fandom on a wild goose chase. TBH I’m glad Deuxmoi ignores BB

R418 I absolutely believe the song was for Peyton given that he changed the words to "this tin can far ACROSS the world" (in his trailer in England), but it wasn't accidental. He left it on his public IG the whole 24hrs. Of course it's believed she doesn't have social media at all, so putting it up on the public one is the only way she would see it (other than just sending her the video? Could you do that with the IG filter back then??).

But also just for the record again, I do not think the woman in Rob's nationalization pic is Peyton cause I don't think it looks like her, and I'm reeaaallllllllyyy dubious that that Pinterest board is actually him either. I think fans were having fun and once it got called out on here the whispers went viral and. . . they spooked. Absolutely no proof on the last one, just a feeling though.

R429 if he hadn’t painted his dining room walls the exact color blue that’s listed as multiple slightly different shades in the Pinterest from a year+ ago I would probably feel the same way about the Pinterest. Also the fact he change the name and made the non-shared boards private on Pinterest right when he also made his venmo private makes me think it was definitely him because those two security suggestions were listed on the same thread in the same day or two here and he must have just gotten to it or heard about it and changed it

R430 there are some other elements that highly suggest it to the advanced sleuth.

R431 what elements?

R429 Since people keep talking about this, the woman in Rob’s citizenship party picture is not Peyton. When he first posted it he originally tagged her. She’s the wife/girlfriend of the other guy in the picture.

R431 i e Rob has far less compunctions about filming himself eating with his dog in full view of a punisher mask in the living room, on the terrace, in the kitchen, with the piano., with the big weird tree next to the house. There are just certain design elements etc that fit the pinterest., so I believe.

R400 "[Rayana] was 2016 into 2017 - then Pixie 2017 into 2018,, then went to London for GD - what did he do in early 2019?"

This is why we need a GD timeline

Rayana, Pixie, Peyton, JH- in that order?

R435 That we know of. We were smugly told, several threads back by someone who claimed to have the inside scoop on what’s in his breeches, that there were far more women than we were aware of here on the DL. (Though I don’t honestly think that came as a surprise to any of us.)

R430 I have no idea how Pinterest works, but I could still see the board, albeit now with only one follower, so didn't know anything went (apparently???) private?

R434 But just for the record, I know his house and actually do NOT believe the pictures fit it at all. That alone doesn't prove the negative of course.

R437 Pinterest is for pinning ideas of things you like from other sources on the internet. Unless he has uploaded pics of his house to Pinterest (highly doubtful) those are just ideas from other sources that he/PL likes, NOT his actual house. So if you are trying to fit it to what you know of his actual house it won’t be an exact fit. The boards that are still visible are the boards shared with PL. She may have been the original creator of them so she would have to be the one to make them private. The fact that they aren’t makes me think they aren’t on speaking terms. There was another board there originally for gate security ideas that was not shared and therefore Ben would have full control over the settings, and that one has been made private (I.e. invisible to everyone but him) or deleted.

I remind all that the Pinterest was built during a couple of years (dates of pinning in the RSS file) and also shared with an account that seemed to be Ben's mother. If it's the work of a fan, congrats, it was masterful.

On the other hand, how moronic do you have to be, to make a personal social media in your own famous name? (Ben, FFS, I beg you: make your next secret identity be Karen Something Something! Or, I don't know, hire me, I can be nice for pay)

Also, as far as I know, no one ever bragged about finding it online, it's pretty much a DL exclusive. What was the "fan" doing with it?

R436 Oh I must have missed where that was said. Wouldn't be surprised, but as the timeline stands, it looks like there isn't any overlap actually between the women we know of.

Has anyone been bold enough here to try to talk to Rayana? She seems like she'd be desperate enough to answer some DMs

R433 do you have another pic of that guys gf/wife as reference? I don’t know how that girl in Rob’s pic could NOT be Peyton it looks exactly like her with the same bone structure/height, just maybe slightly lighter hair than previous jobs, maybe not the most flattering pic, plus no makeup like all her mostly professional/done up pics available on the internet. I could be wrong but I just can’t see anything else but Peyton when I look at it and without reference to the other girl you are referring to

Just like Pixie, I don’t think most people care enough here about past flings like rayana to harass them directly. The PL one is interesting because it seems to be one of the more serious ones with the travel, public appearances, and news of this Pinterest, and would be more interesting to current times if it had any overlap/ending related to JH, but I also wouldn’t condone talking to her either. I know that doesn’t mean much on the DL though I don’t control anyone’s behavior. I just don’t really want to feed the mostly untrue fan accusations that people from here harass his family and friends because as far as I know that’s not true besides maybe that crazy guy and pixie, unless there’s some history I don’t know about

R442 Oh I agree, I was not suggesting anyone message Rayana. Was just curious if anyone had in the past.

I guess it's just me and a few others who care about his past rships but I find it fascinating to consider the women he's been linked to. Even though it isn't current it gives some insight into who Ben is/was, who/what kind of person he is attracted to and wants to surround himself with, and given we know so little about him I guess that's why I find all of that interesting.

R439 I agree there’s no motive to spend years and multiple accounts building a Pinterest that appears to be Ben with benign house decorating pins and with a love interest that wasn’t widely known or confirmed, and then do nothing with it (and what could even be done with that anyways?) so IMO I definitely this all signs point to it being real. The other Pinterest that was posted with a similar user name and the pics that would make it appear like Ben was gay if every found is more of an example of a silly fake Pinterest a fan/troll would create and maintain to make it look real.

R433 R441 Pretty sure the other guy in the photo with Rob and Peyton is Sam Caird, Anna Popplewell's husband.

R445 I thought so too but there aren’t many pics of him so also hard to verify for sure

R441 I’m sorry, I don’t. I follow Rob on IG and I checked out both her and the guy when he first posted it, but I can’t remember what her name is now.

R446 Anna is also a private one so she might have been taking the pic, but it would make sense that Anna, as one of Ben’s best friends, would make an effort to include Ben’s GF even if he’s not in town, so this is another (unconfirmed) piece of evidence that supports the above relationship theory

R445 Sam was also with Ben and Peyton in the paparazzi photos we've seen, but they cut him out of most of the pictures.

R449 yes and Peyton and Sam are about the same height in the pap pics, which also aligns with Rob’s pic

R441 FWIW, I never thought that was PL.

R442 FFS, don’t ever contact any of these people. That’s completely inappropriate—and 100% validates BB’s privacy MO re: his personal life.

R450 and none of them have social media so it would make sense there are none tagged in Rob’s pics. I know someone said there were people tagged previously but why would those people who look like Sam and Peyton remove their tags? I’m open to other alternatives if there are other people as reference, but from my perspective these always looked like Sam and Peyton to me

Was Rob living with BB in Jan 2019? I thought he didn’t move back in until fall 2019. Aaaaaaand… you know Benny’s gonna make Rob archive that post now.

R453 I thought he didn’t move back until fall 2019 too. The pics we are referring to are from February 2020

R453 yes, he was. That is the house. You can even see Bens photo with the naked women in the sunglasses. And the piano too.

I thought the weird hug lady was the gf of some other guy and this one always peyton and Anna took the pic.

R438 Apologies, I understand it's not literally pics of his house. But R434 said because he saw Rob's pics of the house, the Pinterest pics could be applied. I was merely trying to get across that because I know the whole house, not only Rob's pics, I didn't think they could be applied. Yeah sure he could add a pergola structure over his existing backyard (at least theoretically, but I don't know building codes), but he can't otherwise expand it further (to keep it vague fangirls). Also his bathroom at least looks too small for the fancyish upgrades seen there.

Confused yet? Anyway, that's all I was trying to say.

R457 I understand the pinterest as just inspiration for colors and some general ideas. Not actual plans.

Piggy backing off of 443 I find it interesting that none of his past flings were with women who were super model beautiful. Maybe I am bias but Ben is so handsome that he could have the most beautiful women in the world. I've seen such gorgeous women who date ugly men in real life and in Hollyweird. So I just find it interesting that all of the women he's been linked to are very pretty but not supermodel gorgeous. Seems like he likes women on the pretty side of normal but not *too* pretty.

JH I don't get AT ALL but even in terms of looks. All of this drama for HER?

R459 I don‘t think he‘s that hot. He has that fairy prince thing and can be very pretty from the right angle. But as a general figure, he‘s not drop dead. My opinion. Head too small and all.

R459 have you ever met a woman who was supermodel beautiful and could also discuss English lit? I’ve met a few supermodels and I think I lost a few brain cells just talking to them. I think Ben values more than just looks and that’s a good thing (though they have all been pretty by normal people standards)

For the record, I think Rayana is very very beautiful.

R461 you erased JH from your memory, completely. I see.

R469 haha lucky you! I wouldn’t be here wasting this time if I didn’t think he was hot probably lol

I have known many men who pride themselves on their academic success but have with total dullards. Let us not forget that for the heterosexual male it‘s about how HE feels about HIMSELF when he is with a woman, not about her so much.

R464 i still find him fascinating. Just not in that way.

R454 Doh! I stand corrected. Insomnia brain. Yes, photo in question is from early 2020. Ok, so even it was PL, we know BB was still in Budapest. So she could have been there strictly as Rob’s friend, not as both Rob’s friend & BB’s SO.

R460 LoL the small head thing still slays me. I really do think he's quite gorgeous especially in his Billy Russo days.

R461 I agree I think that's a good thing. Again by no means am I saying these women aren't pretty (they all obviously are) but you are right that I'm sure he is interested in more than just skin deep beauty.

R465 Another good point. Maybe these girls were really good at gassing him up? Although somewhere I remember him saying he preferred "bad girls" who are hard to get, so perhaps they served him in that way. That was always why I never believed he dated MY. Far too into him/trying to make it look like they were a thing/average in looks.

Well, they say your choice in partners reflects your self esteem, so either he he doesn’t view himself as otherworldly or… he doesn’t want to be upstaged/overshadowed by his partner. 🤷‍♀️

I think he speaks to a certain taste. NONE of my friends think he‘s even interesting to look at.

**Important to note I would never have a chance at dating Ben because I am ugly and too old and fully recognize every woman we have mentioned here is a thousand times better looking than I am. Merely thinking he could be with supermodels if he so pleased. JMO

Of course, none of these theories explain his attraction to an uneducated attention whore.

As I said, I don‘t think he‘s drop dead. When I see him next to Rodrigo Santoro my eyes will always drift to Rodrigo. Ben is just so much more interesting as a creature, even if only in a weird way.

JH has the psychogames down.

R474 Fair enough.

R459 I think his reaction and answers every time his attractiveness is brought up in interviews make it pretty clear he doesn’t see himself the way other people see him. And really who does? Everyone has insecurities. He of course could he lying but I don’t get that impression. I think he values low key private, at least semi intelligent/well read but also willing to spend a night in watching TV or hanging out with friends. As opposed to most shallow pretty women in LA who need to be seen out and on social media to get validation.

Nobody has a harder time finding a man than an intelligent supermodel.

R476 Yes. And I could never see him with one of the typical LA women who have tons of plastic surgery, fake tits/fake lips/fake everything.

I will say I remember when he did that ridiculous swan photoshoot with Bella hadid and aside from her dramatically younger age, I thought they looked so gorgeous together. (Yes, I know she is the epitome of plastic surgery and that goes against what I just said. But if I hadn't seen her before photos I wouldn't know she'd had so much work done.)

Are we talking about the man who spent months exchanging loving emojis with a cretin, or...

R479. That‘s just it. People here are again seduced by his self created image.

R477 Agreed, seeing as mere existence is a prerequisite to the activity of finding a man 😂 but in all seriousness I think Peyton is almost supermodel pretty especially how she looked in Mad Men, I haven’t seen her in anything recent. And I have no idea what her intelligence/personality is but that’s why I’m so intrigued about why this may have ended and how serious it was. The other ones just seem like flings and less interesting for me because they are probably one of many

We all know that attraction and beauty need not go together.

R477 beauty does not exclude intelligence in a woman. I have known - and envied - some gorgeous and very intelligent women. But they do have a hard time finding men.

R482 Again I do think the women (aside from MY) are very beautiful. But you do raise a good point and that made me think of that interview where he said he likes bad girls. Since all of these women are above average but not Angelina Jolie status, I wonder if they all have personality traits across the board that drew him to them. Were they all "bad girls" who seemed hard to get? Fun to ponder.

R484 then there is what one thinks one likes, and what one really likes/needs/gets you off. What people say in interviews is mosrly meant to sell movies.

R482 this 👌🏻 I find it so weird that I think Ben is one of the most attractive guys I’ve ever seen now while some of my friends don’t even look twice at him. And I told my story about meeting him a few threads ago but when I randomly met him 7-8 years ago I didn’t even know who he was and he didn’t really leave an impression on me. Now that I’ve rediscovered him when he’s older he’s suddenly so attractive/intriguing I found myself on a gossip site interested to learn more when I have barely ever paid attention to celebrities outside of work in the past. Attraction is weird 😂

Wasn’t he talking about mysterious witches in that interview? I wouldn’t take that too seriously haha I remember it being a short retort to the interviewers comment more than an actual thoughtful statement about his preferences. He was probably using it to end the conversation on that specific topic

R486 escapism, darling. Pure covid escapism. We‘ve been into that before. As I said earlier, I desperately needed to obsess about something other than my life in the context of covid, and he got in the way.

To R488 he‘s my brain wave parking lot.

I also think he comes across so dorky in interviews--- not sure if he's that way IRL of course-- but it could be off-putting/friendzone him in certain circumstances. He's so earnest that a more sophisticated woman might look at him as a little brother/sweet puppy as opposed to someone who has raw sex appeal like many other attractive actors. I do find his on-screen chemistry very....act-y. I've really never seen him convincingly seem attracted to a costar in a way that seems natural. there are some actors out there who have chemistry with every woman- even man- and I think Ben lacks general sex appeal outside of his good looks.

He was (un)lucky that Shadow and Bone hit right into the slot where people were mentally exhausted and stood no chance against a dark eyed magical prince who exchanges secret messages with the Ho. It appeals to all senses, both the visual and the mental, if you are receptive to that kind of stuff.

**Forgot to add with the exception of Billy Russo. I thought he managed to pull off sexy, even though I was not convinced of his chemistry with either love interest. Especially Floriana.

R490 that‘s what I meant earlier. He fascinates me, but let‘s say, he‘s not my choice to masturbate on.

R493 He’s easy on the eyes, but oh-so-vanilla.

I think most of us are actually obsessed with the DL exchange and the other posters‘ reactions and sleuthing results than with the actual man. It‘s our World of Warcraft.

R492 I definitely think he had more chemistry with amber than floriana. I think he had good on screen chemistry with JML. I know the age difference bothers some people but I’ve been dating 40ish year olds since I was 25 lol so I guess I have weird age standards that I’m growing into now. But I thought that when I first saw the show and before I went down the rabbit hole and saw interviews where they definitely seem close with a brother/sister relationship, so I don’t know if I would feel the same way if I watched it again.

R494 Yes, that's it. When I watched him make out with Jessie Mei Lee I was shocked by how the youths were reacting. Really? You think that's chemistry? As much as I'm sure they're buddies IRL, there was not an ounce of natural sexual chemistry on Ben's side from my standpoint. She also clearly isn't his "type" based on other women he's been with so that was a no-brainer for me.

I think the closest think to real chemistry I saw him have was with Amber. But even that, she was in control to me. As hot as I found him as Billy I really just couldn't never see him as a domineering guy. He's so beta. It was a good attempt though.

He and JML have good visual harmony.

R495 HA way to put it into terms Rob can more easily understand/translate to Ben next time they discuss the latest from the DL baddies. I like that

He does not exude BDE, or anything remotely take charge or alpha-ish.

Also it‘s the classic Jane Eyre setup and all girls will always fall for it. JML does a very good job being all starstruck.

I look forward to seeing JML in Last Night in Soho and later on in S&B or other projects when she gets to be more confident and less starstruck and timid. The Darklina obsession makes more sense to me with some of these fan cams they make than the actual show sometimes haha

R500 Precisely. And it's not lack of confidence necessarily, I think he thinks highly of himself. He just doesnt have that innate sex appeal. He'd probably be better off as a model than as a romantic lead actor. I don't believe any of his on-screen relationships.

R501 Jessie is the only person in that duo who demonstrates real sexual interest imo. Or maybe it's her being star struck. Either way, she seems genuinely into him on screen and he seems like he's acting. Also will never get over how gigantic her head is to his tiny one.

R500 he also lacks that slightly self-depricating self irony. He thinks he‘s so funny, but really he isn‘t. He likes to quote funny things but I have yet to hear him make a truly original funny remark. To self-conscious for it. Running around like a chicken because his wifi broke down. Yeah, that turns me on … Well, I guess it‘s why people thought he was gay and why teenagers adore him.

R503 I mean she plays starstruck by the darkling. Not starstruck by Ben.

R504 some of the tweets and comments in interviews I’ve seen from around Westworld/punisher era plus his dubsmash obsession made him seem much more funny and confident then than now. Like I thought this interview was pretty entertaining, but it’s all subjective I guess. He needs to get a bit of that attitude back

He looks so good there. Kudos to Pixie or Rayana for fucking Billy Russo. That was his best era.

Seriously, he should have become an unkempt music teacher, staging school musicals with lots of enthusiasm, marry a lawyer/doctor and sing to his embarrassed children. Too late.

R507 i so disagree. That was his worst I think. I liked him shorn and I like him scruffy

His episode on my dad wrote a porno was hilarious too I think he should do more podcasts that are less serious. Most interviews are pretty formal and meant to sell something so it’s hard to gauge personality and sense of humor from that

I think this was his hottest interview haha the post season 2 Billy and gold digger look is my fave once his hair came back a bit. I don’t like the jelled back season 1 look.

R510 yes I heard it, he is good at silly talk, but even there I thought he lacked originality.

R510 Agreed. He’s at his most appealing when he’s not actively trying to sell something. The GD interviews were really painful, because I don’t think it was a project he believed in. And since he was coming hot off of Punisher and in a relationship with PL (for argument’s sake, let’s treat this as confirmed), I’m truly confused as to why he rushed off across the pond to another far-away shoot.

R511 he just always tries too hard. That what makes him the uncool kid Nina Dobrev despises. Do you recall the filmed radio interview for Killing Bono where they had to count the U2 songs? He was so miffed because he wrote them all down but that was not the challenge. I can empathize, I have that streak, and it made me a uncool kid too.

R513 he made a big deal about saying it was the first time he finally felt comfortable playing something closer to him and in his own accent again. If he was with Payton and it was getting pretty serious maybe they had discussed the possibility of relocating to the UK to be closer to his family and try for work there and gold digger was a trial run or something, which is why she might have been spotted over there and interior decorating on Pinterest with his mom. But all speculation of course

R511 He does absolutely nothing for me there. Would never look at him twice with short hair and all the scruff. I like him clean cut with cleaner facial hair (and by God, please no neckbeard.) And longer hair...either Billy Russo style or S&B, or even Dorian Gray style when he was young worked for me. He looks so regular with short hair/it emphasizes his ears.

[quote] He'd probably be better off as a model than as a romantic lead actor.

Yes! He "gives good face," knows his angles, and can look so smoldering in still photos.

Then he opens his mouth.....

R508 I really dig your Alternate Universe BB concept.

I liked logan season 2 best

R514 that uncool nerdiness and quirkiness is exactly why I find him so intriguing I think so Nina and the other cool but not cool kids can fuck off haha

R519 we are all here because of it. But we were discussing the sex appeal. Not the general appeal.

R520 yes but to me that also has sex appeal haha so I guess all of us are just here for different reasons

Watch come September oh I’ve started dating Ben Barnes even though they have been “allegedly” fucking for almost two years.

DLers, which roles did you find his on-screen chemistry most believable in?

I honestly only think him/Amber in S1. I kind of bought him as having mommy issues/his chemistry in a childish way in GD but not in a sexual way. There is a clip from long ago, behind the scene of the Punisher where he's with the guy who plays Curtis and he buries his face in his neck while they're talking. He gave me little boy energy there too. That is much more convincing to me than any romance. You can tell that's genuinely more his personality. Still leaves me confused as to how he is romantically IRL. Does he like women who mother him? Hmm

Also how sad she is like I need to slide into some dms, this is my new single life and BB is over here like twinflames I’m in love! I found real love. Ummmm is she trolling? She is the first one to play into the game that they are together. She is making him look so stupid once again. If he is in love with someone else, ummm maybe just like let people know? I’m sure he would sell a lot of music if he did.

R523 I think BB wants everyone to like him and plays games with his costars like he actually cares about them and is invested. Once the project is over he moves on and drops them for someone new. I think all this “chemistry” we see in press and on socials is a game to him, he is acting even if it is his “real” life. He is out for himself and his own gains and that’s it.

R522 🤢 yes saw that IG story of hers yesterday. Repeating myself here but she’d just spent the day before in a stadium full of rich chunky football players. Ha ha. Bye bye Benny Boy.

Oh pray tell, can anyone enlarge this to read it (at work, can't take too much time myself)? I want to know what my unicorn divine angel numbers are! Also, who's getting poked with the horn. . . .

R523 so random lol I just saw this video you are referring to for the first time this morning on my FYP. He gives goofy boy energy at first but I mostly noticed how his demeanor changed to Russo vibes at the end and I thought it was interesting. He’s definitely very hard to read from the little snippets we all have. Maybe he was just trying to get back into character and the firs bit is real Ben

That video she posted was cringe a month ago when the hairstyle posted it and it is still cringe. Shaking her ass for all those football players? Once again embarrassing BB. Also her family seems exhausting.

All I saw on the unicorn post is romance is coming you are lovable. Hopefully that isn’t a hint that something coming, as we know she picked that card out and it wasn’t random. She knows people write articles about her insta stories. She is insufferable.

R527 Oh FFS! I’ll check it for emojis though!!

Her latest thirst post was up 3hrs ago. No like from Ben. A further version of her similar one from a couple of days ago, no like on that one. Not selling anything on either. Notifs off, BB??!!

R529 Totally insufferable. No wonder Brooks ditched her.

R531 Adding … I love the ‘random actors’ comment.

BB, you’re a ‘random’. Sorry bout that.

[quote] Once the project is over he moves on and drops them for someone new. I think all this “chemistry” we see in press and on socials is a game to him, he is acting even if it is his “real” life.

R525 He has maintained friendships with many of his female costars (e.g. Anna is one of his best friends, he’s clearly very close with JML) and they clearly like him enough to want to work with him a second time (e.g ERW, Floriana, Katherine Heigl), he was hand selected by Eric for S&B partly based on his wife’s experience working with him on the punisher, Lee Toland Krieger (a S&B director) worked with him again for his music video, another S&B director in this article was very complementary of him, and Lisa Joy’s latest insta post from her premier shows they still have a professional and personal relationship, etc so I’m not really sure what you are referring to here. He may make some stupid decisions when it comes to his love life (from what we have observed here) but you can’t really fake all these other factors of his professional life that clearly show he’s pretty dedicated and has a good reputation in the parts of the industry he’s been exposed to so far. Which is why it’s very critical he doesn’t throw it all away for that Ho he has amazing potential

R528 Yes that was the video. He really screams little boy energy to me. He strikes me as someone who needs to be taken care of as opposed to being the caretaker.

R533 I agree. His former and current costars genuinely seem to love him and many keep in touch so I'm not sure why some users here think that. I think that some DLers hate him and color everything he does through that hatred/dislike.

Well this pile of unmitigated bullshit can be read two ways. First para…. BB or whichever NFL player she’s going to hit on!

Today’s thirst trap video from JH was first posted by her hairstylist on her birthday, 7/20. So she’s really digging deep for content to recycle so soon.

R536 Part 2 …. TW nausea alert!

If she’s publicly trolling so hard for a new boyfriend, gotta wonder what she said to BB when she friendzoned him *after* fucking him, what her excuse was.

R537 Definitely shaking that ass for any new NHL viewers.

R539 Something like this, maybe?

JH: “Oh, Bennnneeee….. it’s you, not lil me. No muscles, no huge bank balance. Sorry, darlin’ but you know how it goes.”

BB: “Oh, uh, well. uh… okay. #notgoinganywhere #youstopmyheartfrom50feet.”

JH: “Bennneeee… #justfuckoff.”

Love how people act like they know anything about hollywood and how that whole thing works and what relationships actually look like in that sphere. There were people who said they loved Harvey Weinstein and they knew the whole time he was hurting young woman, but he helped them so they were all supportive. Where is all the love from all these devoted friends on his brithday and for his music? Where have they been when he is following his dreams? I see crickets from them. Networking is not the same as having genuine relationships. It’s not hate, just facts.

R540 With how much I hear about James Bond chatter at work plus comments like Neil’s on his bday, I have a (probably irrational) nagging sense of dread that if Ban actually does get selected for the next Bond (which I personally would love) JH is going to do a complete 180 on this attitude you are mentioning here and suddenly Ben will be her type and it will completely ruin the image 😩 So she needs to get married off to another athlete ASAP and she can shake her ass on Instagram all she wants until she gets there.

Love how JH is literally spreading her legs on her insta. stories with those cartwheel videos. It’s just what they do.

R541 LMAO are you comparing Ben to Harvey Weinstein?! Some of us actually do know a bit about how Hollywood works we aren’t just full time keyboard warriors. Also social media is not real life we have no idea what was said to him in private in terms of support (which is my preferred method of communication for most of my close friends and professional relationships because it’s actually genuine and relationship building) but also unless you are blind I don’t know how you could miss all the messages and stories for both his bday and his music posts (which haven’t even launched yet). There are truly some irrational creatures on the DL how do you get by during these times with such blind hatred over the most pointless things? Harvey Weinstein and Ben Barnes should never be in the same sentence lmao

R541 True, true. We know that his IRL friends don’t get acknowledged on his SM and aren’t allowed to acknowledge him on SM. So the fair assumption should be that he uses SM strictly for promotional and networking (and DL trolling) purposes.

R533 i don‘t hate him at all, why would I, I don‘t know him at all, he‘s just my hobby from time to time, BUT because I have a certain sympathy for him, a warmth let‘s call it, it makes me so angry to see him jeopardize his standing by refusing to eat some humble pie and start managing his image.

R546 Because Jack works in sports marketing, BB likely thinks he already has a consultant with marketing expertise. And has yet to realize that he’s in over his head & needs to next-level the sitch.

If he really wants a career in music, he has to figure out who is target group is, create a persona, think about how to appeal to them and act accordingly. Also, be prepared for criticism and set yourself up so it won‘t matter much. Imagine the deepthroaters twitter harassing some music journalist because they give you 3,5 stars and think there is room to grow. That is a very likely scenario.

Also, the internet never forgets. Two years from now, JH may be convicted for some crime (remember that blind …) and guess whose fairys and instaboobs will come to light. That‘s why it is important to control social media. Your ever helpful consultant.

R549 I think that BB will bite the bullet and hire someone soon. He won’t be able to do anything much as he’ll be busy again with actual work soon.

Also, it‘s very intersting for JH to bring the demographic of your fans to her instagram page. Her media data will display that plenty of women age 14-25 are watching her content, which is a selling point to the brands she wishes to influence her. The media data do not report that most of her pageviews come from a place of hate. She can thus command greater figures.

Little update about Rob‘s cameo, he did indeed get a review 19 days ago thanking him for the birthday wishes, and feeling sorry he was unwell, so it must have been from this summer.

R551 Depending on what the KPIs are, the # of page views won’t matter if she isn’t delivering conversions (i.e., registrations or purchases) so the CPL will be really high, too high.

R553 come on, don‘t spoil my fun. 😇

R554 lol. I also don’t think 14-25YOs are the target market for wine, range rovers, or nordictracks ;-)

R555 that‘s what she has for now! But she might ger Sketchers!!!

I‘m sorry, but why do people still feature young children on their Instagram? Especially in bathing suits? Don‘t people know that this is strongly advised against?

R557 that was referring to the Hos latest story

R556 Which would explain why the Fresh Vine venture is struggling, and she’s resorted to blasting her celebrity network with pricey samples (box filled with rose & bottle of rosé). She’s trying to piggyback on *their* followers. Also explains why the NordickTrack promo failed so hard & was pulled so quickly. Sketchers would be good fit with her demographic.

Just an update from one of Ben‘s recent likes!

Also for your degustation:

From the makers of

R562 note, this one had 41 likes

R560 Yup!!!! Pretty much expected

R562 R563 I’m heading over to like it now!!!

(not really but I do totally support the sentiment!)

The DL could have preached, accused, posted, tagged - nobody would have given any credence to us if not for the now immortalized emojis. Yay yay yay. I dearly hope for you, Benny B, that nothing in any of your lyrics will even remotely resemble any of those emojis.

R566 Oh go on, don’t wish it away! The meltdown. I’d pay to watch it.

Oooh what was that splash?!

11:11 sinking like a stone into the “I demand a refund” pool.

R557 R558 But whatever could you mean?

J-Ho and her like inhabit a sparkly world of fairies, unicorns and magic dust. And Slide into My DM’s games.

Nothing nasty can happen there!

A bit too far with this one 😬

Link dont work, darlin

It was Ainhoa. She just went private. But definitely knows about the chatter about her on the DL and not that my opinion matters but I think it would be best to leave her alone 😬

What did she say now? Is she crying?

Public now

544 love how you say I’m emotional and you seem very emotional in your response. No I was not calling Ben barnes Harvey Weinstein, good job missing my point entirely. Can you step off your high horse please, it’s sad. I say you take your warmth and maybe comment on a different forum. Funny you support him so much and yet engage in something that is actively doing the opposite. Pay in fact to comment so passionately. Seems a bit hypocritical no?

R574 I was the warmth, but I was not the Weinstein.

Look what y'all did to her.

She wants to die because of this thread.

You guys are evil.

Sorry, Ainhoa, you know, you are just the most famous Ben fan! Come on, take it as a compliment.

Not that what my opinion matters either, but I think we should please consider what we say about Cindy and Ainhoa and the like. I definitely have thoughts when it comes to them, but they feel like soft targets. I think this is a really funny and witty forum, but I also think we should be careful it doesn't devolve into a space that is hurtful towards ordinary people. Hope I'm making sense? Still think it's open season on Ben and the Ho though. Just my two cents.

I've already alerted Muriel about this thread and specific posters.

Y'all are SICK.

R578 agreed they should be left alone

R579 so the troll who was obsessed with doxing pixie and hating Ross suddenly wants to be the good guy? Nice try but you have done plenty of damage here already you don’t need to keep posting her tweets too

R575 warmth?! Yaaaasssss the sun summoner here to set us right 🙏🏻☀️

R574 what point exactly were you trying to make about Harvey then? Since you seem to know SO much about Hollywood relationship do tell us more

R581 They made their point. What did you not understand?

R578 Understood, and agreed.

To Ainhoa, should you read this: I am really sorry you took this so hard When you wrote yesterday that Ben Haters should not sleep anymore at night because you were behind them until they shut their mouths, I felt we could go against that a little, but I realize now that your feelings were truly hurt by our reactions to your tweet. Please, I really mean it, I misjudged the intensity of your feelings about all of this. Sorry again.

R585 Threatening people because you disagree with them is not okay, Ainhoa, but mocking them is not okay, either. I apologize for making hurtful comments about you.

R586 Agreed.

R582 No they did not in fact make their point it makes no sense. What is the point of bringing up Harvey Weinstein unless you are trying to imply that Ben’s relationships are so transactional and toxic that they would be worth covering up sexual assault for. Do you even know what Harvey did and the movement is started? Don’t throw out casual accusations like that and then call it “facts” when you have literally no evidence to back it up. Careers can be ruined by trying to draw these false equivalences. Do you get some sick pleasure in that?

And you ask where were they but ignore the fact that there was very visible support from his friends all day for both his bday and an announcement! not even a launch, not to mention his friends directing, staring, and doing production design for his MV. Just because you collaborate on a project with friend doesn’t make that friendship less real. If you think that you really don’t know how friendship, networking, or Hollywood works and how hard it is to get literally anything made especially independently. And if you think a friendship is only real if it’s visible on social media you must lead a very sad life. So no you did not make any valid points

[quote] Where is all the love from all these devoted friends on his brithday and for his music? Where have they been when he is following his dreams? I see crickets from them. Networking is not the same as having genuine relationships. It’s not hate, just facts.

I would also like to point out that nobody here is actually really, aggressively, criminally attacking Ben Barnes! The worst thing that has been said about him is that was an asshole for travelling to Montana during the height of a pandemic and for putting strange Emojis on instagram stories. None of this is even in the slightest hurtful to his person. So I guess we don‘t think of ourselves as the terrible haters the other side of fandom sees us. And the worse thing that happened in the past days was people tagging him on pictures of Julianne Hough and her husband or in a 11 Jersey, accusing him once again of Covid travel. In the light of that, I found it amusing to be warned off so severely, since in my book, actual hate looks very different. But I repeat, it was not okay to call you names, Ainhoa, I apologize again.

R588 I am not the poster who referenced Harvey, but it was very clear to me that the point being made was regarding networking with people regardless of the sincerity of your public-facing association with someone. There was absolutely no comparison drawn with Harvey Weinstein himself. You are jumping to very false & erroneous conclusions about what OP was conveying, and are getting really worked up about it instead of recognizing that you misunderstood the post. Let it go.

The OP brought up Harvey Weinstein as a way to explain “hollywood and how that whole thing works and what relationships actually look like in that sphere.” If there was absolutely no comparison drawn to Harvey Weinstein and the type of relationships he maintained then there’s no need to bring him up at all. He is not representative of all of Hollywood. And coupled with the completely asinine implication that none of Ben’s friends showed any type of support for his bday or announcement, it’s pretty clear the OP wasn’t just trying to make a distinction between transactional networking and friendship, they were trying to make Ben look worse than he actually is

R591 You’ve made your point clear that you disapprove of the example used. You’ve also made your point that you feel that Ben received sufficient and ample online support from Ben’s SM friends. Let’s move on now.

Service post for later

R476 the thing is, the humble, sweet guy he's been selling in interviews for years is an act. He's an actor. He's shown himself to be a self-involved douchebag.

R594 Oh, this will throw off the DL haters! Also: good recycling

R595 I think you mean R593

R596 Tired. Yes.

R593 Ben will be disappointed. He’ll think he’s not worth an XXIV thread!!!! 🤣

Ok Ainhoa has made more than one threatening tweet about people insulting her little schnookums Ben Barnes. I guess I don't understand the rules of engagement here. She's allowed to say whatever she wants on a public forum, but if anyone mocks her for doing so, we're the villains? This kid needs parental supervision. Tell ya what, she doesn't make any more threats to anyone picking on the asshole who continent-hopped during A FUCKING PANDEMIC, and I will also play nice. Seems fair, right?

Well, it has been made known here.