Simone Biles' Olympic Dreams... (Part II)

Previous thread.

I do feel bad for Morgan Hurd. Biles owes her an apology.

R2 Why? She wasn’t even an alternate. Both our alternates got fucked with COVID-19.

r2

why?

Ok sorry for being out of the loop, who would have made the team if Biles bowed out before they started then?

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EIther Jade or Skinner and I am sure they would have picked Jade

R6 No, not Jade. Skinner maybe. But the alternates were the next in line.

From previous thread- I need more information than Moceanu is a deplorable other than “she was raised in Texas” which is the worst reason I’ve ever read on DL.

I wonder if they should have made Simone compete as an individual qualifier rather than put her on the Team.

Morgan wasn't an alternate because she wasn't allowed to petition into trials, isn't that right?

That's really unfair.

Morgan was fucked over.

Is it?

Sadly Morgan just not fucked over, she was not ready after injuries... I hope she goes to worlds this year

They still had plenty of Alternates to compete....

R10 Why wasn’t she allowed? I didn’t hear that.

Also, Shannon earned her right on the team no matter how she did it. Closest 1-2 finish in Barcelona. 5 medals. She lead all after the team and compulsories. She then calmed the team after they started fucking up on beam. Shannon was the most consistent gymnast in Barcelona and Atlanta until the last two events in the individual when she was leading.

This tweet speaks for me…

Keep telling yourself that, Shannon Petitions to Everything Miller!

R16, and? Who hasn't won with those same problems?

I won a Gold Medal in team and AA first, and was also carried the same Larry burden. Of course, unlike my slut teammates, I didn't dress like I deserved it.

R16 I might log into twitter just to like that tweet. Snaps to that bitch.

Everyone should take Thursday off for a "Mental Wellness Day."

R20 My ex is a teacher and they take mental health days off all the time.

Jade is replacing Simone in All Around.

So Jade and Sunisa?

Jade is a long shot to medal. If she does, wow, that would be fantastic.

I will be surprised if it’s not sunisa and two russians.

Lets break down Simone’s chances at competing and medaling in the event finals:

Vault- unlikely to compete. This is the event that caused her to withdraw period.

Bars- even if she does she will not medal.

Beam- unlikely to compete as she could get really hurt flipping on the beam

Floor- unlikely to compete. Too much insane flipping

Shannon will remain the most decorated female Olympic gymnast

God bless, R26... let's keep praying!

In gymnastics everyone is competing with a broken toe or a busted shoulder.

There is no way the higher ups didn't know something was wrong with Simone. Martha would have made Simone compete as individual instead of putting her on the Team. A meltdown like we witnessed doesn't happen all of the sudden. There were probably all kinds of red flags behind the scenes, red flags that Tom and all his enablers ignored. I feel bad for Simone, but she should have been left home. Jade got screwed. Thank god she is doing AA at least.

R28, I agree.

This didn't come out of nowhere so it's clear somewhere along the way it was known that Simone probably should have pulled out and let someone else compete. I don't think Jade got screwed because I don't think she would have been placed on the team regardless. I don't remember, but did Jade compete all four events in Qualifying? If so, would her scores have put the US in first over the Russians if you took Simone's scores out?

I suspect Tom was behind this mess. I knew without a doubt that something was going to get fucked up with these Olympics because he fucks everything up. He's wanted to make it to the Olympics so badly... for nearly 30 years... and it's actually sort of funny he finally gets there and this is his legacy.

Strike that, obviously Jade competed all 4 events in Qualifying if she's competing in the AA now.

I feel bad for Simone. Its harder to be everybody’s target than to be the underdog chasing after the top spot. She had the physical tools but mentally wasnt good enough. Why is it so bad to say she failed mentally? Why is this a tale of bravery now? She is a public figure, she trained for this, she called herself goat, she signed contracts with sponsors who will give her bonuses for every medal she gets, she couldnt handle the big pressure. And thats fine, very few can. She made the right decision to quit. How many athletes out there can actually handle big-stage defending champion pressure as big as this? Michael Phelps, Michael Jordan, I personally feel Yuna Kim did and she was robbed anyway but handled it magnificently.

Speaking of Yuna Kim, this is exactly what Russia is doing anyway. They are doping and bribing judges— Suni is world silver on floor who performed the exact same set yet Suni scores are much lower. They want the AA so badly, and they want it at Simone’s expense. They want to beat Simone the way they “beat” Yuna in figure skating. Im somewhat glad that Simone quit so they cant beat her. Give gymnastics a few years, it will be exactly like ladies figure skating now. It doesnt help the US Team coordinator is pretty inept.

Jade competed in all 4 in Olympic trials but I actually thought she got lowballed a little. NBC had to address the fact that athletes and US officials were being cunts to Jade because she earned her Olympic spot through international competition forcing them to take her. She was right in the end. The US would have left her home had she not taken the initiative to earn an Olympic spot through international wins.

Explaining "the Twisties".

[quote]How many athletes out there can actually handle big-stage defending champion pressure as big as this?

Don't look at me.

Jade doesn’t have a chance at medaling in the all around.

Of course not R35. The winner has already been pre-determined.

Who is angelina? One of the russian whores?

Will Sunisa become the next american gymnast sweetheart tomorrow?

They will low score Suni. Just watch. Those Russian whores could fall off every event and have a good execution score. The judges want a non-American winner.

Nyet, R38. Read R36!

It is sort of fascinating that right before the games the Russian Coach said without Simone, the US won't win anything... that they would.

And now they will.

The FIG couldn't blatantly rob Simone of Gold, but they can certainly do it to everyone else.

Funny how it always works out for the Russians, exactly how they want and say it will, huh?

Shannon Miller, in Atlanta, lead all gymnasts after the team and compulsories. She lead all gymnasts after two rotations in the all around. She was dominant then stumbled in the 3rd rotation on floor.

She will remain the most decorated female gymnast.

R41 yep. Always. But *SPOILER ALERT* not in the men’s all around!

R42, that's sweet.

But Shannon was never going to win the All-Around.

Shannon's the Queen of leading after Compulsories and Options and not winning the Gold, hah!

How many times had Brody gotten head from Sam? Just wondering.

r42

Actually she was in 2nd after the 2 parts of of the team competition

R46 She was first

r47

sure Jan

Suni is actually not a bouncy power gymnast like mykyla, simone and chiles, she is the artistic one among the americans. Her execution scores are still being low balled. Americans are being lowballed for being short and stumpy. They are padding the russian bots by giving 8.5 execution scores to account for their lesser difficulty.

(Although to be honest, this team including simone doesnt seem as cut as the previous ones, I think with the exit of evil Karolyis, they probably started feeding them)

WRONG, R47. Lilia was first going in to the AA. FIG wasn't going to screw that up.

The Russians, much like Tee-Rump, always tell you exactly what they're up to. They can't help themselves.

It’s tragic these girls end up in AA at such an early age.

It's sad what Meth can do to you, huh?

I don’t give a fuck about gymnastics or gymnasts but why is everyone falling over themselves to praise her for quitting? Is she the Meghan Markle of gymnasts? Where you have to heap underserved praise on her or else you’re CANCELLED for being racist??

When you tattoo GOAT on yourself, you invite hubris.

By all means let others label you such, but not yourself.

No sympathy here for such arrogance.

Many other Olympians have had much more adversity, kept it to themselves and either triumphed or competed nonetheless.

She took the coward option and chickened out.

She's getting a free pass because she is African American.

White trash would invite less sypmathy.

The FIG tells you exactly how it cheats when you look at how you are only allowed to file an inquiry on the technical value of your routine... not on the execution.

10.0s for all Russians! 6.5 for all Americans!

Shannon was first after all events until the 3rd rotation in the all around where she was short on a pass.

USA gymnastics fell apart after the first Karolyi retirement. It looks like they’re going to fall apart again. Why can’t they take what good they did and ditch the bad? The girls had a bit of fear in them regarding the Karolyis.

R55 many Olympians are just running, swimming or playing with balls they are not doing death defying flips, stupid deplorable!

International judges always judge Americans harsher. It is why they upped the difficulty.

Many gymnasts in the past have pulled out due to the twisties, it’s just no one cared.

Does Shannon own a voodoo doll btw?

Yes, R61.

Why does the media worship this girl? I can’t wait until the woke craze is over for good.

Really, R60? Please let us know which Gold Medal Favorite at the Olympics, or even World Championships, has pulled out because of the Twisties. I'd be interested in knowing, thanks.

Whatever happened to Gabby Douglas? Is she still around?

Three time Gold Medalist, Gabby Douglas is doing wonderfully! She continues a thriving career of lying and slut shaming sexual assault victims, thanks for asking!

So NBC does it again. Showed ONE rotation and now suddenly we are on rotation 4. FUCK THEM!

The Me should be required to perform their routines shirtless and only wearing their shorts. There'd be much more interest. Ratings galore!

*The men

R67 do you have access to the NBC Olympics App? At least their Men's AA coverage is 3 1/2 hours.

So NBC can show all swimming heat and semis but can’t show all rotations in gymnastics?

It's also been said that one of the reasons Gymnastics doesn't pull in as large an audience as it used to is because of the change in scoring. Casual viewers can't make sense of the points system or why they see a perfect routine and why someone else with a less perfect routine scores higher.

Does NBC replay their coverage on demand anywhere?

I think on Peacock.com you can replay stuff. It's a free streaming service. Never tried but I heard that. I looked at the website the other day.

Jade didn't compete all four events at Olympic Trials. She was resting an injury and did half of the events.

Simone should not be pressured into a situation where she could end up paralyzed or even dead.

Poor Kerri Shrug, explained in the article below, got pressured into a vault that was not needed as the US team was far ahead in the lead, broke her ankle and prematurely ended her gymnastics career because of it.

Not even into hour 2 and NBC is almost finished showing the men’s all around. Shameful. I’m turning it off after.

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here you go

[quote]USA gymnastics fell apart after the first Karolyi retirement. It looks like they’re going to fall apart again. Why can’t they take what good they did and ditch the bad? The girls had a bit of fear in them regarding the Karolyis.

USA Gymnastics is probably going bankrupt due to all of the lawsuits due to the Nassar scandal. Biles is the only one of the women who charged Nassar that is still competing and I think she has filed a lawsuit also.

That article is wholly inaccurate and revises history, But cool.

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Here's an example, don't watch if you don't want to see an injury :(

R71 Luckily most American male swimmers are fucking cute.

R81 what would I be seeing exactly?

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a world/Olympic medalist on vault getting lost in her twist and injuring herself badly. Gymnastics is no joke and the gymnasts could legit get themselves hurt or even killed if they are not on their game

Question: Is Ms. Biles the only female gymnast at the Olympics to have the 'Twisties'? Because if the GOAT with all of her professional help is having them, you'd think we'd hear about lesser gymnasts at the Olympics suffering from the 'twisties' too. Are we to understand that every time we see a gymnast change a double to a single flippy thing, that they have the twisties?

R84 Was it gruesome? I don’t want to see gruesome.

Well someone called it. The men’s AA was over in less than an hour. No drama. Showed only three, THREE routines by the Americans. Now it is swimming semis. What a joke. NBC is terrible.

R65 ahem, I’m still around. I just won the Masked Dancer. And I don’t dress like a whore.

What did G Douglas say, exactly?

[quote]What did G Douglas say, exactly?

I said what I said.

R90 Seriously, what did she say?

R89 if you really must know...

After several of her teammates revealed they had been sexually assaulted by Nassar, she essentially Tweeted that it was sad but maybe if some of them didn't dress like whores, they wouldn't have deserved it. I think the words, proper or modest, ie, "if they behaved more like ladies and dressed modestly," it wouldn't have happened. I believe she was referring to Aly or Mackayla, I don't remember.

Simone fired back a Tweet, not addressing Gabby specifically, but everyone knew what she was referring to.

Gabby got a lot of heat and immediately then claimed she TOO was a victim of Larry!

When the Nasser allegations came out, she said she wasn’t molested, in part because she dresses modestly. Huge blowback, then the next day or so she came out & admitted he’d molested her too.

My bad, Simone DID directly address Gabby.

Wow Gabby is a huge cunt. Simone saying “it doesn’t surprise me “ is very telling. Gabby looked like a cunt. You could see it in her eyes.

Gabby... talk about an Olympic AA Champion that should have an asterisk next to their name as, "only won because someone didn't qualify."

R96 But that’s the name of the game. Those are the rules. If you’re going by that, Gutsu should definitely have an asterisk by her name.

I hate Gabby now. Worst AA ever.

Olympic "Champions"

1972: Tourischeva* 1976: Comanaeci 1980: Davydova* 1984: Retton* 1988: Shushonova* 1992: Gutsu* 1996: Podkopayeva* 2000: Amanar* 2004: Patterson* 2008: Liukin* 2012: Douglas* 2016: Biles*

Only one Champion since 1972 won because she was truly the best and doesn't need an asterisk next to her name!

R97 the rules have long needed to be overhauled. All Around and Individual Event qualifications should be separate and have nothing to do with the Team Competition. I don't think other sports mix their qualifications like this.

If Simone had competed and won the AA this year, at 24, she would have been the oldest gymnast since 1964 to win. As it stands, her win in 2016 made her the oldest since 1988.

Back to the subject of NBC's shitty coverage... thinking back on it, even in 1996 when the Olympics were in Atlanta, they didn't air the competition live. They delayed it for Prime Time.

could you elaborate r98? Why do the others all have asterixis?

R101 Exactly! I knew the US won team Gold so I wasn’t freaking out when Keri fell on her first vault. This shouldn’t be about what is live. In Rio, it was a nightmare of swimming for hours because it was all live. The gymnastics coverage was terrible but nothing like how bad it is this year. The coverage is shockingly bad. I can’t see how USA gymnastics doesn’t throw a fit over this. They literally showed Brady M on two events and Sam M on one. That was it. They showed only THREE performances by the US men and barely any of the others.

All Olympic athletes are under pressure, Simone was pulling a hissy fit.

R102, it was mostly a joke but:

1972: Tourischeva --- Only won because Olga faultered!!!! xoxo, Olga Korbut

1980: Davydova--- Only won because it was in the USSR and the judges fucked with Nadia's score!!! xoxo, Nadia Comaneci

1984: Retton---- Only won because it was in the US, the Soviets Boycotted, and the New Life Rule hadn't been implemented!!! xoxo, Eckaterina Szabo

1988: Shushonova--- See New Life Rule above and the FIG lowballed Silivas because of her haircut!!!! xoxo, Daniela Silivas

1992: Gutsu--- She didn't even qualify!!! And she only won because the New life Rule was put into place!!! xoxo, Shannon Miller

1996: Podkapayeva--- She only won because the FIG pre-ordained her in 1995. The judges wouldn't properly deduct her and they would not let an Asian on the podium!!!! xoxo, Mo Huilan

2000: Amanar---- She was only named Champion because her teammate had it snatched from her for having the sniffles AND of course.. THE VAULT.!!!! dxoxo, Svetlana Khorkina and Andreea Raducan

2004: Carly Patterson--- She only won because the judges didn't like how beautiful I was!!!!xoxo, Svetlana Khorkina

2008: Nastia Liukin---- Bitch could barely do a backflip. She only won because of who her Daddy was!!!! xoxo, Shawn Johnson.

2012: Gabby Douglas---- She only won because I had to do the heavy lifting in the Team competition and I didn't qualify!!!! xoxo, Jordyn Wieber

2018: Simone Biles---- She only won because she gets a pass to take Ritalin, a banned substance!!!!! xoxo, Gabby Douglas & Shannon Miller

2016: Wouldn’t that be xoxo Aly Raisman?

The judges are international judges so they didn’t lowball Nadia.

[quote]The judges are international judges so they didn’t lowball Nadia.

Awwww how naive.

R107 Those judges are biased towards Russians for sure.

how many girls did that doctor molest? How'd he get away with it for so long?

R109, go watch Athlete A, on Netflix.

Anyone going to be watching the Women's AA Final live?

Poor Viola. I saw she lost again. She looked very good though. Quite young.

She seems in desperate need of a complete, radical makeover.

Shannon Miller went to law school, between that and cancer, she might be a Never-Trumper Republican instead of an out-and-out deplorable.

FYI- All around starts in less than an hour.

Ready for the judges to hand the first two spots to the Russians and barely give third to Sunisa!

I think the judges are probably itching to give the AA gold to a Russian. If Melnikova has a clean meet, I bet she wins. One thing that has really surprised me is how much the judges are holding down Suni Lee's floor scores compared to the 2019 World Championships where she got silver behind Simone Biles. Now Lee is scoring about five or more tenths lower than she had been.

The Men's AA was a great competition. It was a four-way battle for the Gold between Daiki Hashimoto, Nikita Nagorny, Xioa Ruoteng and Sun Wei. Hashimoto won gold, Ruoteng silver and Nagorny bronze. It all came down to the last rotation on high bar. Hashimoto is much better on high bar than the other three and when he hit a clean routine, I knew he had the gold medal. I can't remember when it was that close between four competitors. Even a couple minor mistakes made the difference in the medal color for the podium. I can only hope a Simone-less Women's AA is equally as exciting.

I am really sorry for her. Not optimal for others but who ever had panic attacks can probably relate. She didn't do this on purpose. I hope she gets better soon.

She will always be remembered as a ‘huge’ champion who blew up Rio with GOLD 🥇. Thank god 🙏🏻 or whoever, that we’re not measured by our worst day(s)

Anyone else hate the forced groupings and Olympic order for the AA?

I preferred when they were all in mixed groups and random order. It felt more exciting that way.

[quote]She seems in desperate need of a complete, radical makeover.

Not everyone can be a natural beauty like ME!

It's kind of refreshing that Jade doesn't really seem to wear makeup and doll herself up like a whore. I saw one promo where they did put makeup on her and she looked like an entirely different person.

Did anyone else's feed get interrupted in the middle of a routine for a commercial?

Do better NBC!

Sunisa delivered on vault.

I still can't believe some of these gymnasts are doing double twisting Yurchenkos as a competitive vault today... the entire Soviet team back in 1991, including Boguinskyaya was capable of a DTY.

Bridget Sloan is way better than Nastia. NBC should switch.

The reason the coverage is horrible these days is because both Nastia and Bridget are awful. Neither of them deliver like Elfi!

Do these little Russian whores eat?

How nice it looks like the Russians "randomly," got the prime late spots in the rotation. Do we bet they go last on all the events?

Oh Bridget... she's Russian... of course the judges aren't going to take the tenth!

You see it already with Melnikova outscoring Suni on vault. Suni's vault was better but somehow scores lower.

This is some serious bullshit.

Again, it isn't about Biles's "toughness" or "patriotism" or "shafting her teammates."

It is, quite simply, about her hubris.

Don't get into a betting match with the gods. They'll win and laugh every time.

[quote]Don't get into a betting match with the gods. They'll win and laugh every time.

Pretty sure it has more to do with my prayers and the needles I've been sticking into my Simone doll!

I haven't been watching NBC's Primetime coverage... have they completely stopped airing the 15 minute fluff pieces where we learn about how tragic, poor, and injured these athletes are?

It wouldn't be an AA without one of the Chinese gymnasts falling!

China is flopping hard these Olympics.

Lu Yufei's disappointment makes me feel for her.

R137 with the exception of 2000 and 2008, when haven't they?

Do the judges still charge for an Inquiry? It used to be that if you filed one you had to pay a couple of hundred dollars, in cash, upfront, in order to file one. If you lost your inquiry/appeal, you didn't get the money back. Basically, it was bullshit to dissuade you from questioning the judges and preventing an athlete from exposing the judges' cheating.

It would be nice if the Brazilian medaled over one of the Russians.

I like that Rothlisberger has seemingly done his best to learn how to pronounce most of the athlete's names correctly.

R142 His voice is terrible though, and kind of annoying.

Is Simone even in the building? It would be nice for her to cheer on her teammates but at the same time, would probably also be a distraction, taking the attention away from the rest of the gymnasts on the floor.

R144 yep

R143 it's not any worse than Tim Dagget's.

R139 They might leave these games with Zero medals on womens side.

R146 Don’t get me started on that closet case’s voice.

Did someone say closet case?

Bridget laughing when some of the gymnasts fall is so bitchy.... I love it!

R150... I thought I imagined that, hah.

How convenient the Russians "randomly" got late draws in the second rotation too!

How lucky for them!

Angelina is exactly the kind of pretty the FIG wants as the AA Champion. Not as pretty as the Painted Bird of Odessa... but she'll do!

The Russians will fall on balance beam again.

r152

not lucky... just the way it had been since they have the same rotation order for about 10 years now

R154 so what? If they do they'll still score 15.5!

Yes, but they're "luckily" getting the later draws in each rotation. So convenient!

At the halfway point, If no one falls off anything the final standings will be Andrade, Melinkova, Lee.

Well Carey fucked up.

Dismounts off bars haven't changed since 1992.

Bridget joking that the beam might be slanted... after 2000, if I were a coach I'd be measuring and leveling every single damn event before my athlete got up.

Whoever has that Ed Sheeran floor music is unfortunate.

R162 it's one of the Chinese gymnasts.

The worst rotations to start on have to be Beam or Floor. I'd want to start on Bars.

The Americans seem to like these Russian whores maybe they aren’t bitches like previous ones?.

Funny that John says it shows such sportsmanship for the US team to be shouting encouragement for Melinkova... they were obviously trying to fuck with her!

Word!

That's sweet of you, R165. If there's one thing you never do is give the Russians the benefit of the doubt!

They shouldn't even be competing.... they should not have been allowed to send a delegation.

I thought for sure Suni was gonna be off the beam.

Sunisa saved an almost near disaster on her wolf turn. She is not taking any steps on landings. She’s got this!

The problem for Suni looks like Floor Exercise where everyone in the top 6, it looks like, outscored her in Quals.

Not good that Suni's score is taking so long.

I thought for sure Andrade would have messed up by now but she came to slay and medal today.

Really hope that Suni can pull this off...

No matter who wins though there's going to be an asterisk after their name!

I'm actually surprised the judges aren't low balling Suni as much as I thought they would. I guess they're just really glad to not have to hand Simone the title.

Advantage Andrade going to floor. If she hits, I think this is hers.

What's the point separation between everyone?

Andrade scored .7 more than Lee in Quals. Melinkova had .6 ahead of Lee in quals and .3 in Finals.

What gets me is the CHinese team and how they don't build up their strength on Floor and vault. With the exception of 2008, it's been this way for them for 30 years.

They got it together for 2008... it's amazing they didn't keep it up.

Enjoying watching Nina Derwael. She should have a good chance for a medal on bars on Sunday.

IN the last rotation did they even show a single floor or vault?`

If Sunisa wins she'd be the first person of Asian descent at the top of the AA podium, right?

So it's just the Americans who don't bother to dance on the floor.

I will say I'm glad to not have to watch Simone's awful floor routine.

My sleep cycle is so messed up getting up at 4 am since Saturday to watch gymnastics live. What a difference between live and the dumb prime time coverage.

I’m in love with Suni and the Belgian young gal - Nina. Nina’s lines and moves are so elegant.

Angelina is ridiculously pretty, too bad she is most likely a whore.

I enjoyed Suni more than Angelina. She deserves it.

Come to think of it it's actually a lot more fun and interesting to watch an AA without Simone competing. It's nice that there's a little suspense.

Andrade is going to win it.

She has to stay in bound.

Suni has got this, wow. An asian wins it and not from China.

I've long said an out of bounds needs to be more than a 1/10 deduction. That's the same deduction it's been for 40 plus years. An out of bounds needs to be a percentage off your score.

I'll be really happy if that just gave that to Sunisa. I really like her.

Suni was cool as a cucumber all day, she doesn’t even seem that excited?

Congrats to Sunisa!!! So well deserved!

This was worth staying up to watch!

Sucks for jade to go last.

Wait Angelina got bronze? Hmm I thought she deserved silver. I l grew to like her.

Jade’s floor music is pretty cool.

Suni! I’m crying. She is so cool and does so well under pressure!

[quote] My sleep cycle is so messed up getting up at 4 am since Saturday to watch gymnastics live.

Why does it matter so much to you?

Wow, Suni wins! Somewhere Nellie Kim is having a meltdown that another American won the Olympic gold. That's five Olympic AA titles in a row for the US.

I thought Suni was the best today. I thought Andrade had a real shot, but her two out of bounds on floor sealed her fate. Melnikova in bronze seems right, too. Who'd have thought the judges would get it right?

Nellie Kim is shoving daggers in her pussy right now because there's no way in hell she ever wanted an Asian to be at the top of the podium since she never got to be.

I honestly think the judges were just glad to not have to hand it to Simone. Having an actual competition to watch actually makes it more fun to watch the sport.

Suni seems so deserving so I'm super happy for her.

This coverage was a little over 2 1/2 hours long.. and I still don't think we saw that many routines.

I can’t see Sunisa being back for Paris she will be a one olympics and done like Carly.

I didn't realize the athletes had to put their own medals on their necks.

Now the country can put Simone behind and going forward celebrate the Asian girl.

And just like that... the trajectory of Suni's life has changed completely.

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except she did 10 times in world and Olympic competition with 6 of those being individual medals as opposed to team and 3 Individual gold medals at the Olympics

Too bad peacock does not show the family's reaction.

I'm surprised Sunisa is allowed to compete with those eyelashes.

R207... not as AA Champion, haha. Nellie Kim sucks!

I hate the dyke Nellie Kim also.

I do love that this generation of gymnasts genuinely seem to have camaraderie and genuine affection towards one another.

R212 I hate that, I miss when the Russians like Slutvana Whorekina were complete total bitches that hated the Americans.

Svetlana Khorkina at R211, you forgot to sign your name.

R213, Whorekina hated everyone, including her own teammates.

Sunisa now has to send Simone a huge fruit basket and give her her first born.

You not clutch sis, get a better sports psychologist next time

I love this story so much. I wouldn't have mind seeing a fluff piece on it!

I thought Sunisa could pull this off. So happy for her.

yeah bitch, who needs you? Lee is da BEST!

Morgan Hurd must really be hurting now... Morgan and her glasses could have been the first Asian Olympic Champion!

Shannon, maybe you can give Morgan one of your special dolls... in the likeness of Tom Forrester.

R216 Now Suni gets dancing with the stars, a movie and book deal. Thanks Simone for getting the twisties.

Suni was still wearing a boot last month and in the classics, could only compete beam and bars. People thought she was only aiming for specialist spot. Simone was already unraveling at trials. Suni did beat Simone on day 2 of trials. Plus her nails and lashes are just quuen!

Totally agree R209. Those fake eyelashes are dumb and so sad. More power to well-scrubbed natural Jade. But Suni came through!

Suni is the REAL clutch performer. Suni, not Simone, IS Team America!

R221 Morgan definitely needs to get a hold of those voodoo dolls , and then Paris will be her time to shine.

Morgan Hurd is injured. She was slated to peak last year then got injured.

wow, I have great respect for Lee, she is so tough mentally!

Her father fell off a ladder helping a neighbor with yard work and was paralyzed from the chest down. she was going to compete at the U.S. National Gymnastics Championship just 2 days after her father's accident. Suni contemplated not going to nationals after her dad’s fall, but at his insistence, went and competed.

In that championship, she earned a gold medal on uneven bars and a second place in the all-around behind Simone Biles — an event they were supposed to compete in together in the Olympic individual finals Thursday, before Biles withdrew.

We don't need old ass Biles, we have lots of new, and up coming talent !

Has Biles withdrawn from the Bars event?

No, r174. No asterisks are added because of the absence of anyone.

Name another example of an added asterisk other than Roger Maris.

R227 Maybe it’s best Morgan got injured since Tokyo has been nothing but bad juju for female Chinese gymnasts.

No we dont, our coordinator is pretty bad, and the russians are coming up with their own gymnastics factory. The US is all about participation trophies and mental health and they cant tell anybody to get off carbs anymore.

You've already been given your list. Keep up!

R233, don't worry. Tom is no longer Team Coordinator as of next week.

Suni Lee wins AA gold. But, of course, the only thing she will hear is how she only won because Biles wasn't there. No publicity for lee - she's the wrong " Person of Color."

Told ya!

Good riddance to Forster but who will take his place?

I am so tired of this asterisk shit. As they say: you play the hand dealt to you.

[quote]As they say: you play the hand dealt to you.

But don't dress like a whore when dealing with that hand.

SUNI beat biles on day 2 of trials. Let that sink in…. Biles peaked early and has been unravelling since then…

Why is Sunisa Lee going to Auburn for college of all places? Spending four years in Alabama sounds like hell to me.

R242, you mean why WAS she going to go to Auburn.

Aren’t college athletes able to get paid now?

Simone is really sweet to Sunisa on her instagram she seems genuinely thrilled for her.

She'll be going to college. Education is paramount in Asian homes.

I thought Lee might pull through after hearing that story about competing while her father was in the hospital. That's someone who knows how to focus. The most graceful of the American gymnasts as well.

I really blame the coordinator and Biles' coaches for a lot of this. She'd clearly been having issues for a while--the kind that with a less-talented gymnast would have kept her out of the finals or the team in the first place. Everyone took Biles for granted because she is so damn talented that she doesn't have to be at her best to win. But the red flags were there.

It's clear that she wanted to retire before this and that she's angry at the federation, understandably, over Nasser. I'm sorry her career is ending this way because it does leave a mark on her legacy--the gymnast who quit and left her team in the lurch. People can say nice things about the need for mental health, but she's not going to be seen as the role model that she was. It's a real shame because she was a good face for the sport--impressively talented, PR savvy, I never heard of her putting a foot wrong on that front (looking at you, Gabby Douglas).

I do wonder if there's something physical going on just because her performance has deteriorated so quickly in the last few months--all those step outs during qualifying, getting lost in the air. Some inner ear thing maybe?

Anyway, hurray for Lee. Yeah, her win will always be tied to Biles dropping out, but there are worse things than to be known for rising magnificently to the occasion.

Yes, the trajectory of her life just changed enormously. She will always be introduced as “Gold Medalist in the women’s all-around in Tokyo”…and, if she plays her cards right, never has to get a real job in her life. Tara Lipinski nabbed gold in skating at 15 and never looked back!

YAY! We kept the AA GOLD!

And NBC will show 36 minutes of it tonight move on to even MORE SWIMMING heats and semis! Woohooo

I do wonder who badly they’ll fuck this up tonight. Each time I think they can’t fuck up more, they do.

R249 is that a challenge?

Congratulations to Sunisa! Now I'm going to do what I do best (second to balancing a 20 lb scrunchie on my head)... and make today ALL ABOUT ME!

Smooches..

R250 I have NO DOUBT they could do that.

[quote] Shannon Miller, in Atlanta, lead all gymnasts after the team and compulsories. She lead all gymnasts after two rotations in the all around.

Miller was second after two rotations, behind Dawes. Both fucked up on FX.

I dont take it against Simone that she withdrew, she did the right thing, but it is not bad to say she had a mental breakdown and wilted on the big stage because it is what it is. Was she under bigger pressure than anybody else? Yes. But that isnt the other gymnasts’ fault and Andrade had the weight of Brazil on her and Suni the Hmong nation as well. She really peaked physically and mentally too early and by the 2nd day of trials, Suni managed to beat her. There shouldnt be any question mark at all, Suni had what it takes to take advantage of any opening. I dont see why anybody should be hating on Simone, she had been extremely gracious and just a classy person throughout all of this. Her only mistake is calling herself goat before the olympics even started.

Suni DID beat Biles on day 2 of trials after Simone fell(and she may have fallen twice but I forget)

Miller was first.

So it would have been another 1-2 finish for Team USA if Simone would have competed.

[quote] She will remain the most decorated female gymnast.

Miller received her share of undeserved medals and over-scoring. As did Khorkina, Milosivici, and Gogean.

R257 They ALL did.

R257 shut your lying, whore, face. Shannon earned everything she ever got. And God clearly is in her side as she's magically still keeping her record.

But you're absolutely right about that cunt Gina Gogean!

God or voodoo magic?

Shannon did deserve everything she got. She was so steady and had the most consistent stuck landings.

Suni Lee winning was fantastic. Rebecca was great and I felt a bit for her. Suni missed a wolf turn and Rebecca stepped out of bounds so both had mistakes so I feel Suni was the rightful winner.

Yes, I especially deserved the title 1992 Olympic Trials Champion! Even though by the rules, I could not be named Champion, but USGF gave me the title anyway as part of their effort to systematically break down that Pumpkin Shaped Zmezkal!

[quote]Suni was the rightful winner IN THE ABSENCE OF GOAT SIMONE BILES.

Fixed that for you.

[quote] Shannon did deserve everything she got.

Absolutely not! Not the '92 FX bronze and neither of her AA Golds! Let's not even get started on this joke of a compulsory bars routine which netted a 9.525 overscore -- just one of countless examples of her being overscored.

Who is fanboying for this Oklahoma 40-something-year-old frau anyhow?

If Simone had competed, she would have lot to Suni, period. Simone has a broken headspace that can’t handle pressure, while Suni has the spirit and drive of a champion that overcomes adversity and rises to the occasion.

Lot = lost

Oops, forgot to sign my post at R264.

Simone who? Yesterday's news.

R 265 is absolutely correct. Biles would have been defeated and lost a lot of lucrative endorsements. GOATS don't quit.

Shannon did deserve her titles. She was under and over scored like all of them. Russians are more overscored. Fact.

Lets get ready for the 13 minutes NBC will give gymnastics tonight. Starts at 7pm. CST here. I bet coverage is over by 8:15.

Eat my diapered ass, R265. I'm QUEEN of the Compulsories!

One thing about Shanon... as the GOAT she never abandoned her team during competition... well except that one time!

R272 When did Shannon abandon the team? What am I missing?

Simone Biles abandoning her team clearly shows she's stalking me and trying to carbon copy everything I do. True GOATS dont copy... I'm the original!!!

R273 let me tell you about Shannon abandoning the team...

All I can tell you, R273 is that if it were me, "I would still be here and so would my athlete!"

NBC's Primetime Coverage is on now and it sucks because once again, we know TIm and Nastia do their commentary after the fact and they're already doing PR for Simone by reiterating over and over how Suni finishes second to Simone all the time.

Um.. they're already showing SUni's vault? Wasn't she actually later in the rotation? I thought Jade vaulted before she did in the earlier coverage.

Shut up Shannon you were washed by age 20.

[quote]Shut up Shannon you were washed by age 20.

And by 19 I was the most decorated US Olympic Gymnast of All Time.. a record which I STILL HOLD 25 years later! GOAT!

R273, Shannon abandoned the U.S. team at 1994 World Team Championships after the compulsories and after that embarrassing performance at R265. This was right around the time Shannon was starting to get chunky.

Jade Carey's mom eerily looks like Vanessa Atler.

R282 Are we sure it isn’t Vanessa Atlar?

Yes, R283. Jade's mom would have to be twice the size to be Vanessa.

I'll say this... watching the top qualifiers, is sort of a stark contrast to Simone because for the most part, they all have better form and more aesthetically pleasing gymnastics than Simone. I'm particularly impressed with Andrade's execution.

Oh yes, we love a good Fluff Piece!

THere's nothing better than having your hot daddy at your side and coachign you!

Wow Nike jumped on the bandwagon quick and already came out with a "respecting Mental Health," commercial.

Shannon still won WORLDS in ‘94.

You mean she was handed a second World Title, R299.

Asterisks next to both her AA titles since someone better faltered two years in a row!

Her quitting the team competition was so obviously a premeditated decision. And I am willing to bet that decision was something she made long before these olympics . Basically she goes in to these olympics with huge financial endorsements and marketability as the 'GOAT'. But she knows full well, if she loses, well those spoils will diminish pretty quickly. So she decided that yes, she will go to Olympics, but if she finds that she is not going to win, and as such risk losing the financial windfalls, well, she will pull out, so her sponsors can't ever say she 'lost' or was beaten. As fate would have it, she screws up the vault, unintentionally, however the immediate march out of the arena with her 'doctor' and returns a shockingly short time later to announce that she is finished with the team competition. Then the next day she drips out the info that she out of the AA. It's all so predictable; just follow the money trail folks. She must have decided a long time ago: at the first sign of any tarnish to the reputation, I'm not gonna fight and risk it losing it all, if I'm not going to win, I'm pulling the rip-cord immediately.

R291 I mean you could have shortened that to simply:

Biles took a shitload of Russian money to throw the competition!

Good old NBC Primetime Coverage. I had forgotten the rule is only one routine before 10 minutes of commercials kick in.

Chellsie, Jade's daddy is a DILF, too.

[quote]Biles took a shitload of Russian money to throw the competition!

Except it wasn't Russian money, it was American money.

r289

there were TWO worlds that year, Shannon did win the AA/EF worlds which was held in the spring and she only did compulsories at the TEAM worlds in the fall of 94. IIRC Shannon and Nunno still maintain that they told US Gymnastics that they would only do compulsories as they were not in optional form. USAG kept hoping that Shannon would get competition fever and decide to compete in optionals even though Nunno was clear that she would NOT

Yes, Shannon and Steve are good at sticking to bullshit stories, R296. She also continues to maintain that she , "won," the 1992 Olympic Trials.

Regardless of her not competing, she and Steve showed what cunts they were by not sticking around to even support her teammates. She got the fuck out of there immediately after her shitty bars routine.

[quote] 2004: Carly Patterson--- She only won because the judges didn't like how beautiful I was!!!!xoxo, Svetlana Khorkina

Oh, Whorekina. This is my favorite routine of yours of all time! I'm so very glad we escaped ever having you as Olympic AA champ.

And the assumption that you would win had it not been for the vault fiasco? Bitch, you fell [bold]four[/bold] times at an Olympics on your only decent piece of apparatus (the bars)!

I like how NBC doesn't think Gymnastics is important enough to provide decent coverage but at the same time, because they know how popular it is, they withhold their shitty coverage of it in order to hold viewers hostage and force them to sit through swimming, which they're happy to broadcast every heat.

Thank you, r241. It's illogical to say that Suni won only because Simone didn't compete. What we witnessed of Biles to that point was not Gold-Medal caliber. Suni might have surpassed her fair and square.

Rio Gold was not an automatic Tokyo Gold.

What sucks is that Simone's reputation gives her a pass and allows it so that it gets to cast doubt on the success of the other athletes.

Everyone will say, yeah, but if Simone had competed she would have won... Nope. Youd ont know if she would have competed, been a basket case and completely tarnished her reputation.

She didn't compete becuase she wasn't in the mental state to win... Suni was. That's part of the competition, right?

Getting really sick of Daggett repeating, "we have to remember the woman who was supposed to come and win all of this, isn't here!"

Tim, you only won medals because the Soviet Bloc countries didn't attend your Olympics, so STFU!

R291, You make eminent sense. This scenario would account for the undetectable "mental issues" as the excuse.

But once we start to go in that direction, will a sign-post be one that says her 1 1/2 turns instead of 2 1/2 on the vault were intended and not a case of the "twisties"?

Plus, "premeditated" would make all of Simone's self-aggrandizement with her GOAT bedazzled accoutrement NOT a matter of hubris, as I've argued, but rather a cold currency calculation.

Will Biles still perform in the Olympians' "Gold Over America Tour" (GOAT), I wonder. The tour is promoting her as THE attraction.

R304... isn't that tour HER tour? She's a co-owner in the tour, I believe.

I guess she will; it seems Simone is a driving force for the tour!

Can we just take a moment and really think about what today really means? Today is an amazing day of celebration as I, and I alone, remain the Most Highly Decorated US Olympic Gymnast in History! Tonight could have gone so differently wherein I might have had to share the title. So let's celebrate!!!

God is Good! God answers prayer! And I'm the GOAT!

Please keep praying through to next week while I go sharpen my pins.

Love you all!

Thanks you bitches for making this thread hysterical.

But I wonder why I've not been mentioned much?

Does my gold not count as much as others?

R308, who are you?

Any word on whether Simone is competing in Event Finals?

I really want her too, R310. It'd be great drama.

R311, me too.

Watching the Olympics Gymnastics Individual Event Finals will be interesting.

Supposedly one can watch them LIVE and FREE on the Peacock Channel, starting at 4:00 a.m. (ET) Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday (August 1, 2, 3).

We'll see. I'm willing to bet that they will be shown on $$ Peacock Premium only, same as with Olympics Basketball.

I wish I wouldn't learn results as "breaking news" before an event is shown tape-delayed in prime-time.

Can you imagine if Green Bay packers go to Super Bowl and Aaron Rodgers pulls out citing mental health reasons?!

r314

the difference is Aaron Rodgers isn't tempting death with multiples twisting and flipping... seriously I don't understand why people are grasping this

AREN'T grasping this

Sunisa is statuesque for an Asian gymnast.

R316, quarterbacks face the sack which is dangerous too

r318

if you can't see the difference between a quarterback and this... I really can't help you

I see the difference, R 319.

A quarterback would probably at least be able to finish one floor routine and stay in bounds!

[quote] I really want her too, [R310]. It'd be great drama.

I really hope she doesn't! She should just hang it up and go out with some dignity. There's no shame in being Second GOAT!

She'll be forever remembered as 'The Quitter with the Twisties'

Mykala Sknner was ready and set to head back to the US but now is in limbo waiting to see if Simone pulls out of th Event Finals.

Hasn't Simone already put her teammates through enough mental torture? She needs to prove she's not selfish by just making the decision to back out of the remaining events now!

I have a feeling Simone is going to go off the rails after she gets home. I keep getting Tonya Harding vibes from her.

well she's out of vault and uneven bars finals :(

That's WONDERFUL news, R325. Source???

If the news isn't confirmed, more than likely Simone willc ompete and they'll let her compete every event with a tumbling harness. They've already spent years bending over backwards for her and letting her get away with stealing medals left and right with those banned subtsances and all.

^^ here you go

Now she won't get that vault named after her.

She wasn't going to medal on bars anyway though so she's probably just preserving her record.

she should just go a a little world cup to get the vault named for her... I do wonder if she will continue to worlds now to end her career on a much better note

The Russians are too damn cheap to offer Biles anywhere near enought money to make it worth her while to throw the Olympics.

Not saying she did it on purpose but...

if Simone pulls out of the remaining competition she can claim to have been undefeated since whenever.

If she doesn't pull out of the rest of the competition... we just need to pray that Quals hold and the only medal she gets is on floor. That will at least keep ME as TIED for Most Decorated... but I'm gonna sharpen my needles just in case.

Is she out of olympics entirely?

Doesn't she do flippy things on the balance beam and the floor exercise? Aren't 'twisties' a threat on those apparatus as well? And please with the not as far to fall crap; she could just as well break her neck on either if she has the 'twisties'. This whole charade is straight up suspicious to me.

R335 she's still currently not made a decisio for beam and floor finals. She most likely wouldn't medal on beam.

Meanwhile, the top story from the Olympics is that she has withdrawn from two events. All the media has made it the top story. Get the fuck out .

Sounds like a great Media plan, R338!

r319 He just tempts death with each snap of the ball and a good tackle is when he isn't concussed, doesn't break a collarbone or injure a leg or get paralyzed like several players have in the past. You are seriously the most obnoxious person on this site. Gymnastics is very dangerous. It's not the only dangerous sport.

Here's just one example of a guy having is career ended with one tackle, even though I know Simone the Goat faces more danger than any other athlete who has ever existed so I'm sure this doesn't count.

Is this thread locked up?

SImone has officially pulled out of the Floor final! She's undecided about Beam.

Proof again that God loves me.

Now at the very worst, I will share the title of Most Decorated US Olympic Gymnast!

On the beam, she does a twisting/flipping dismount. Maybe she'll change that if she can take out the twist parts, though her difficulty will be much lower.

Shes' not likely to medal on Beam anyway, so she really should just hang it up and not be selfish and let one of the Reserves have peace of mind and a proper preparation.

I assume she already knows she won’t do the beam, why is she dragging this out? Yes, let the alternates have some time to prepare.

Definitely not GOAT behavior.

Simone has pulled out of floor finals as well.

[quote]I assume she already knows she won’t do the beam, why is she dragging this out? Yes, let the alternates have some time to prepare.

You can't expect her to be a Team Player NOW!

Love you, Roza!

[quote]Love you, Roza!

Yes, absolutely love ya, Roza!!!

New thread in case anyone wants to discuss Event Finals tonight.