Simone Biles's Olympic dreams are DEAD to me!

And after all those Uber Eats commercials!

She already has medals from 2016

Quitter!

How pathetic if it’s not because of physical injury! If she quit because she couldn’t take the heat, that is ridiculous.

Mental Health is important to people like her. Maybe she wants her teammates to prove they can do it without her.

who's face is she going to slap?

NBC was promoting her in constant rotation on all its platforms as the Second Coming of the Virgin Mary.

Tears and screams at the Comcast Building this morning,

She’s not an anamatronic wind up toy - real people have real lives that often don’t work out as planned. Even in the brightest spotlight.

Maybe she left her amphetamine bag at home. SAD! But she should have known that amphetamine was invented in Japan.

you bitches are so fuckin dramatic lmao

LOSER

DRAAA-MMMAAA

She only dropped out of the team competition. She's still set to compete in the individual events (for now).

Well the Americans blew it. Same shit as always all power and not able to control it well and zero artistry in dance. The little Russians shlyukhas deserved it.

Simone should have tried to do floor at least because Chiles was a fucking disaster.

[quote]She only dropped out of the team competition. She's still set to compete in the individual events (for now).

So she’s not a team player?

They say it was a medical issue.

"Medical issue" is quite wide-ranging - could include physical and mental issues.

Was it because she was molested?

On German tv they said it was because of mental issues.

IDK if she was working with a sports psychologist, but if not, she should have been. The way she's been built up as the second coming over the last few months would do anyone's head in.

With an eye on each side of her head - I guess she couldn't see that coming.

Maybe Nadia terrorized her?

Guess shr can stop calling herself, GOAT... you're not the GOAT if you fuck your team over and you also need performance enhancing drugs to get you through!

If it was mental, she made the 100% correct choice, she could get killed with the insane skills she throws if she is not in the correct frame of mind

She’s never had a mental issue in competition so likely physical

Absolutely no artistry in the floor exercises. Just jump jump jump.

If she makes it to Individual competition she just gave the judges a reason to loe ball her.. they hate her as it is.

*low ball

R24 Yep but now she will feel guilty that she couldn’t get some of her teammates a gold medal, some of them it was their only chance ever.

Gymnastics is not exactly a safe sport if you are distracted and not at your sharpest (even when you are at the top of your game).

Every girl who I knew was semi-serious in figure skating growing up ended up having some mental health issues due to the busy schedule and pressures from a young age as and many of them having eating disorders. I have heard gymnastics is pretty similar.

The older I get the less I get excited for the Olympics due to recent venues displacing people to build their venue, how cities often end up bankrupt, forcing this one through during COVID and not pushing it back from the rainy season because of ratings etc.

Some people power through.

Can’t wait to hear how this is white peoples fault.

Her limbs are too short. Overall aesthetic effect is therefore severely limited

If she has any decency she'll pull out and let a teammate who isn't selfish or a basket case compete in her place.

R33 would know, seeing as he measured them against his stumpy penis.

Sheesh- what’s the big deal? Chill- her reason, her choice- she ain’t refusing to cure cancer. At least she’s not pointing a finger at something else.

Were they really her dreams? More like corporate dreams. She lost motivation a long time ago.

A GOAT would have gotten their mental issues in check prior to the Games!

Yep she doesn’t give a shit about more gold medals she isn’t like other olympians that want to hoard as many as possible.

Perhaps she required that non-binary friend from the uber eats commercials for moral support. If so, let's face it, our judgemental world let her down. I can't pretend I don't hate it; I was counting on those golds.

Media whoredom and dickmatizing are a lethal combination to a sporting career. Bye Fellatia.

Bullshit, R39.. if you believe that you're not paying attention. She didn't care about THIS Gold medal. She knows she can still get at least 3 more.

“Why I Won’t Participate in Team Competition Anymore,” by Deidre Hall

This one decision, to cut and run and turn her back on the team, is the thing she will be remembered for above all else.

[quote] This one decision, to cut and run and turn her back on the team, is the thing she will be remembered for above all else.

Shannon Miller can relate!

R44 no it wont. She will probably be back in Paris and this will be forgotten by then.

r25

oh dear

[quote] She only dropped out of the team competition. She's still set to compete in the individual events

Yes, to Simone there is an “I” in team.

Fuck you, Kerri at R45. How embarasskng for you that you're a 0 time individual World and Olympic Medalist!

Marta is going Big Red on Tom Forrester right now.. "I handed you a Gold Medal Program.. you had ONE job.. once a failure always a failure, Tom."

^Tom Forrester's job is gone after these Games.

Girl loves her GOATs

Guess she shouldn't have been so cocky!

This happens every Olympics. Somebody all the networks over-hyped goes splat, then somebody else comes out of nowhere for a big win and becomes the next media darling.

R53, only Olympic AA gold medalists should pipe in on this matter, Svetlana.

Not in 2016... but hello, Sunisa Lee, 2020 Olympic AA Champion!

Who, R55?

The Russians are cheaters...they shouldn't even be there

R53 Svetlana around here you are known as Slutlana Whorekina.

She’s been injured and if you’ve been watching since the qualifying trials she looked miserable and I’m pain. It might have been mental health making the physical strain unbearable. She’s finally messing up, but at the Olympics, she’s under a ton of pressure to perform.

Sparkle Neely, sparkle!

She’s 24 years old and probably mentally stunted, like most Olympians. I wish she could get TeamUSA additional medals, but she’s proven her point as a great gymnast. She’s also 24, that’s young and this is more pressure than any of us have ever had to take on.

She’s been turned into a product and you can see she’s physically breaking down and mentally under pressure. Bowing out, then congratulating the winning Russian team was very professional and the right move for her. Sucks for her team, but athletes understand that at this level of competition, no one is giving up easily.

It’s surprising there is no up and coming darling to take Simone’s place . Sunnisa is meh.

She turned herself into a product.. and happily.

Well.. USA Gymnastics had to be preparing for competition life after Simone. I just didn't expect that it was going to be forced to happen during the actual Olympic Team Final!

R60

You nailed it.

Why should she have to carry the whole team anyway?

Can’t wait for the Op Eds. “What Biles can teach Black and Brown Women about protecting their emotional labor”, “No, Black women DONT have to take one for the team”, ect.

Twitter says she still plans on doing AA. Not a good look to be honest...and I am a Simone fan.

Shimone Byshesh.

[quote] She will probably be back in Paris and this will be forgotten by then.

Unlikely. She'll be 28-years-old by then (ancient in gymnastics terms). Plus, I really think she's just checked out of the sport.

R68, 28 is baby!

Carry the team??? We were doing just fine without her!

I mean she had a bad day... or maybe Russia payed her off.: lol

The Americans came second without her. In the team competition, 3 of the 4 team members have to do the apparatus so when she pulled out it meant the other 3 had to do all the apparatuses. They did pretty well to get second considering Chiles wasn't expecting to do floor or uneven bars. Biles did the first apparatus - the vault but didn't do the vault she had planned, pulling out of it in midair. Then she withdrew. She just did an interview where she said she just doesn't trust herself as much anymore, either due to age or pressure. That her mind isn't in it the way it should be. That there is more to life than the Olympics and that she would rather choose to withdraw if she isn't in the right mindset to compete safely rather than being taken out on a stretcher

Well said, R60. I've been telling my partner since the US Championships and Olympic trials that Simone looked not quite herself and I suspected she was nursing an injury. Shades of Jordyn Wieber in 2011. She came in as defending World All Around Champion but had a bone fracture somewhere on her leg or foot, I can't remember. And then Jordyn performed a bit under her capability and didn't even get to the All Around final which Gabby Douglas won. Simone is clearly injured. I don't know about her chances for the rest of these games. She's still incredible, but at 24 the type of pounding her body has taken leads to inevitable injuries.

Also, the media hype has been ridiculous. Russia was a much improved team. They benefited from the Olympics being a year later so that Listunova and Urazova could be on the team, pumping up their scores closer to the US than they'd been in the past. Sill, if someone told me that Russia could fall twice on beam and still beat even a Simone-less team, I wouldn't have believed it. But far too many errors from the US today. With Russia hitting all three floor routines, the fall from Chiles really didn't matter. It just increased Russia's winning score. And the media's constant drumming of Simone being GOAT is too much. Simone should have shut out all that talk. Instead, she participated in it. I think that was to her detriment. It's gotten in her head.

All credit to Russia. Other than beam, they hit today and deserved the gold. Other big surprise was Great Britain taking bronze and China having a meltdown.

Walmart is hiring..

Weiber? Jordyn Weiber is your example? Bitch, please.

R72, then she'd better pull out if the remaining events.

And let's not forget Tom gets a lot of blame for this loss... he fucked up the Team selection.

reddit /r/gymnastics must be having a proper meltdown.

Simone Biles is a fucking embarassment with no Patriotism or understanding of team work!

[quote] She just did an interview where she said she just doesn't trust herself as much anymore, either due to age or pressure. That her mind isn't in it the way it should be. That there is more to life than the Olympics and that she would rather choose to withdraw

So she got on the team this year just for the money and sponsorships and not to actually compete.

[quote]Sheesh- what’s the big deal? Chill- her reason, her choice- she ain’t refusing to cure cancer. At least she’s not pointing a finger at something else.

She was being hyped 24/7 as the “Greatest of All Time”. Which clearly she’s not.

I like Simone

It's funny she says there's more to life than the Olympics.. it's great she gets to have that perspective at her second Olympics, where she withdraws from the Team competition... too bad she couldn't figure that out so some others could have had the opportunity she can be so cavalier about!

Women’s artistic gymnastics used to justify the artistic psrt of the title. Toes were pointed and body lines counted for something. Simone Biles may be a GOAT but her brand of gymnastics is ugly to watch. Now women’s gymnastics is tumbling driven and therefore dominated by stumpy, muscular midgets.

You can't be GOAT if you can never fucking stay in bounds.

R85, oh Shannon, even with Simone melting down, you're America's most decorated darling no more.

R85 Big tits Shannon sit your flat ass down if the stupid age rule was not in place your Olympic medal record would be down the gutter like your original nose.

R84 Biles amazing tumbling is not ugly. She can’t dance for shit but her tumbling and the height she gets is truly special.

I feel sorry fie her. So much pressure, so much scrutiny. It couldn't have helped the media were hyping her to the point where it was treated like she was guaranteed to walk away with several medals.

She's brilliant, but she's also a celebrity making millions in endorsement deals after several years of success. I think like the USA basketball team and Naomi Osaka, she's being reminded the Olympics are for the hungry. They're for Tom Daley, who failed to meet the moment in previous games and only had a few more chances to get gold. They're for unknown Russians and Chinese athletes scrambling for crumbs. Simone was there once, but she's existed in a bubble of ass kissing and endorsements for a while (and no, I'm not trying to diminish any racial abuse she's experienced in a predominately white sport).

R73 We knew the rule changes would help the little russian whores the most. They only had to come up with three good gymnasts.

I'd like to hire her to replace both Robin and Beetlejuice. Can she laugh?

The more to life comment was in the same sentence as not wanting to be taken out on a stretcher so I think she meant she isn't prepared to sacrifice her body and health for the Games. She has also been pretty outspoken about her anger that those that turned a blind eye to the abuse happening are still part of the organization and that she is forced to compete under the eye and direction of those who allowed and supported abusers. She was crying in interviews not that long ago about this so I think mentally she is not in the greatest place. She is angry at the organization, tired of the sport, felt pressured to stay in it and compete through these Olympics and has decided she will only push her body so far in an effort to avoid serious injury. It will be interesting to see if she stays in her individual competitions. Once your mind kind of checks out and she has had that release of all the pressure and is talking about it, it has got to be hard to get back into a competition mindset and hurl yourself off the vault.

Simone is beautiful

Wrong, R86.. I'm still the Most Decorated. That quitter needs 2 more to pass me. Of course when it comes to the individual events the selfish sell out won't pull out like Steve always did!

The Russians shouldn't have even been allowed to compete.

No one pressured Simone to continue to compete. She came back after retirement of her own free will. No one was blowing up her phone asking her to puynjerslef through anything she apparently couldnt handle.

*put herself

Well, there's still so much more important in life than "sports"... wishing her the best.

Having said that - softball, women's soccer, men's basketball... US is no longer (was it ever?) automatically the best. Sometimes you come face to face with history and you blink. And then go on with life.

Simone was free to walk away from the sport like she walked away from her team!

I won gold AND am a Dancing with the Stars champ. I am the GOAT, bitches. Plus, I’m adorable.

Hey, Simone. Try The Masked Singer.

She'll get a book deal and biopic soon.

I always liked gabby more

Simone is just giving all the other girls an opening. Who will step up and be the new star? Anyone?

Shawn, GTFO of here. You couldnt even win Gold against a bitch with a fivehead who could barely do a salto on floor.

R101, she's already had both.

R103, Sunisa Lee has a very great chance at Olympic Gold on the uneven bars. Jade Carey probably wouldn't mind Biles pulling out of vault finals.

You liked Gabby more? The one who slut shamed sexual abuse survivors? Alrighty then!

R104, big talk from someone who cost the U.S. a team gold medal herself, Alicia.

R106.. I also wouldn't mind if selfish Simone pulls out of vault!

She's a former foster kid and she was fingered by Nassar. She's been through some real shit.

Good for her for telling them to fuck off and dropping out. I hope it costs them money.

Fuck you, Bridget. Keep trying to hop on John Rs gay dick.

I QUIT! What a DIVA move! DL'ers should relate.

Morgan honey you better get used to disappointment. Biles will be back in Paris because lets face it deep down she LOVES the attention and at worst she will be a floor and vault specialist.

R111, you would know all about gayface husbands, Alicia.

hah. Simone will not be back in Paris. After this stunt, USA Gymnastics will give her the Shannon Miller 2000 Olympic Treatment. They already hate her.. she's now given them the ammunition to outright be done with her.

R100 Stump... I mean Shawn we all know that the gay Derek Heough carried your ass to that win.

I've never cared for Simone, the hype around her, nor the fact that she's allowed to use Adderall while competing. But this was clearly a case of NBC, the pervy US gymnastics association (I don't care enough to look up their actual organization name) and sponsors like UberEats wanting to cash in on her. Sure, she could've easily walked away, especially with the year's delay for the Tokyo games. But at this point she's practically a brand in and of herself, and no doubt is supporting her family, her agents, etc. As others above have said, all that pressure and stress wears on the body and mind. If anything, this should be a cautionary tale to other athletes feeling forced to compete "just one more season," etc etc. It will be interesting to see if she competes in the individual events, and if she takes a hiatus after the Olympics for herself.

What is with these gymnastics darlings crashing and burning at the Olympics?

Don't start me on Simone Biles, she stayed in the Olympics program because she wanted "That GOLD Medals". She only complained "after all the shit hit the fan: about the Dr in the media" OH I FEEL REALLY DIRTY, where's the camera at?" Fingered out old hag!!

Biles is the greatest gymnast ever. She bailed solely because there must have been something really wrong

R88 Not just talking about Simone but the state of women’s gymnastics today, dominated by tumblers who don’t bring artistic elements, in fact like Biles, they don’t even try anymore. Poor lines, legs carelessly apart when they shouldn’t be, toes not pointed not even when doing splits, upper body carriage, simple stuff like that which just 20 years ago is like night and day. Linked video of Katya Lobazniuk in Sydney 2000 doing floor exercise, musical and fun to watch routine (with great body lines) but also with great tumbling. Unfortunately this gymnast blew out her knee a year later in 2001 at age 18 and never came back fully, retired the following year. She coaches in Canada now.

She's not taking a hiatus.. she has her very own gymnastics tour after the Games where she'll make money off the teammates she just screeed over! Let's face it she came back of her own free will, pressured by no one, to make fast cash.

R120 She has just said that the problem wasn't physical, it was emotional. Just too much pressure on her as the "lead"...

She was such a huge "brand" with so much riding on her performance, I'd be surprised if she didn't have counseling to help her sort it all out. Independent of anything else, it'd be an interesting study to assess what kind of support she did and didn't get.... for someone "that big", simply giving up because of the pressure is odd, unusual.

R121 poor form and overall sloppy gymnastics is a direct result of compulsories being taken out of the equation.

If she wasnt capable of handling the pressure of being, "the lead," she can't be considered GOAT.

She couldn’t handle the mental pressure and she caved. That’s not what you would expect from “the greatest”.

This will all be blamed on systemic racism.

R72

Wrong! Chiles was not expected to do beam or bars. She actually did pretty well on those, but landed on her arse in floor which is one of her specialty events.

R124, bingo! That's why each quad of gymnastics has gotten progressively worse and less artistic since 1996.

Sick of the “goat” acronym

I can understand mental health issues, but it's not like they are a lightswitch you just turn on and off. it will be very suspect if she suddenly feels well enough to compete in the individual events. It would have been better if she had pulled out before the event started if she was feeling not up to it, and not after that sloppy vault. All that added drama and pressure for her teammates.

She'll later blame it on pressure and hype.. and ignore that she herself caused the hype by repeatedly shoving GOAT in everyone's faces.

I'm sure Simone's teammates are secretly a bit thrilled to have some independence of her. Now they feel lightened and probably will do better with the freedom of knowing that they have the perfect excuse if they don't win team gold. I'll bet with the new found freedom from all the pressure, the other teammates will perform above their personal expectations.

Is Biles going to go the route of mental health/ wellness like Naomi Osaka and many other celebs? Using mental health as crutch or excuse and as preemptive strike against even the mildest criticism that’s not even personal but professional?

More like they're happy she faltered and they don't have to live in the shadows of her hype.

R135, I’m pretty sure they would rather have a gold medal

Her mother should have taken care of this long before now!

One thing I disliked about Simone was her talking in the press about how the FIG was unfairly targeting her and not giving her skills the value they deserved and they wouldn't do it to any other athlete.

That in itself was revising history as all her skills, save one, were given the value they deserved. Only one. her double double off beam was undervalued to not encourage it... and she's not the first to have that done to her, so it was disingenuous to paint that sort of narrative.

I'm sure Naomi Osaka and Meghan Markle have already sent her a personal note of support.

Sure, R136, but two things can exist.

A few weeks back Simone did an interview where she voiced concern that she wouldn't do as well without a crowd there.. maybe she can't succeed unless she has screaming adoration behind her... definitely not a trait of a GOAT.

This “mental health” thing is only just beginning with athletes. Thanks so much Naomi.

I’m sorry but this is fucking ridiculous. This is what you train for, this is why you are a WORLD CLASS ATHLETE. If it was for “normal” people everyone would do it. This is a pussy ass generation and the sad thing is, the media is going to shower her with praise for “taking care of herself.”

I have no sympathy for her and also glad to see Osaka sent home.

R129 the Sydney games was the last hurrah for great artistic gymnastics IMO. It was my favorite because the Russian team had so much drama and was stacked with talent and should’ve won the gold but they made uncharacteristic errors in the team competition. Then you had drama with HBICs on that team starting with Khorkina then Prudonova. Baby gymnast Lobazniuk trying to stay out of the bitches’ way. Zamolodchikova the whole package gymnast who should have won AA gold but fucked up in FX only to redeem herself in FX event final. Khorkina gave up her spot in the vault event finals to Zamo (which Zamo won gold) because Zamo had better shot at gold than she did. In the floor event final, Khorkina was leading and was going to win the gold until Zamo came and did this. Khorkina was pissed.

Well it wasn't an issue for her for close to 8 years.. and it's doubtful it just happenef this week, so what did she do to work on this? And if it was an issur she knew she was dealing with, maybe she should have given someone else the opportunity, stayed home, and saved herself the stress. Whatsnher responsibility in this?

Khorkina likes to tell take of how she graciously offered her Vault spot to Zamo... bullshit, you're in the Russian Team.. you had no fucking choice.

[Quote] dominated by tumblers who don’t bring artistic elements

r121, it's the same with ice skating.

It would be wonderful if someone say from the. FIG it USA Gymnastics said, "Since you've expressed concern for your mental health and physical well being, we have made the decision to withdraw you from the rest of the competition as we can't be sure you're in the right state of mind to make these decisions."

Yes, that would be wonderful. I think I'll start a petition.. I'm good at petitioning.

r138

I thought she made those comments back in 2019 and she was 1,000% correct about her beam dismount though... her triple double was fine but even by FIG logic the rating for the double double off beam made no sense

*FIG or USA Gymnastics

If this is what she needs to take care of herself, good for her. It's ridiculous how she's just expected to carry Team USA and win everything all the while she's being underscored on some bullshit premise about safety. Team USA has not fought FIG hard enough on this, and just expected to coast on her anyway. And then 2 days ago we hear nothing but "Oh Simone was slightly less than perfect so Team USA is in trouble!" For fucks sake, how much can one person take?

R143, agree with your post up until Khorkina being pissed off. Bitch was always sour about something, and she messed up herself in TF. That's why I never agreed with the "Khorkina was guaranteed to win gold in the AA if it wasn't for the vault fiasco!" camp. Biotch was always messing up in some of the biggest meets of her life -- she may have peeled from bars even without the incorrectly-set vault.

R148nnomsjr wasn't correct about it because all her other skills have all been properly credited for it. And again, they didn't just target her for it as she likes to say they did, there's precedent for them doing that and it's been done to several gymnasts over the past 30 years.

*no she wasn't correct about it

Khorkina may be one of the most undeserving Gold medalist that was repeatedly allowed to undeservedly Gold medal.

R138, this has been an ongoing issue with Simone, all they way up to the present. They also devalued her Yurchenko double pike vault, and yet everyone still expected her to guarantee Team USA 's win with them.

I don't think the US needed to rely on Biles to win Gold. They could have won Gold without her.. the problem was in how Tom stupidly selected the team. It was clear he was in over his head and had no idea how the 2 extra qualifiers worked and how to best utilize that.

It may not have the value she thinks it deserves, but the Yurchenko Double Pike wasn't undervalued because they are targeting her or are trying to keep her down. It was given a preliminary value because its not yet in the code be susr it hasn't been performed and the logic behind the preliminary value is based on the current value of the Yurchenko vaults and the value of the tucked version. The logic behind how they determine values is severely flawed and it's always been a mess... but it wasn't intentionally done because they have it in for her.

But she's the "greatest of all time"!!!! Just like loser Lydeki. GOAT!!!

r155

Did she complain about the value of her new vault though? I thought she said she was fine with it

r152

I'm sorry but she was correct(and I do understand others have been screwed over as well)...

a double back off beam is a D and is worth .4

a full twisting double back is a G and is worth .7 so a +.3 difference so by that logic adding another twist would be a J which is worth 1.0! The Biles off beam was valued at an H so only .1 difference

again FIG logic is at fault

She absolutely confessed to being a selfish bitch: “I feel like I’m also not having as much fun - and this Olympic Games I wanted it to be for myself and it felt like I was still doing for other people.”

She's an example of "quit when you're ahead".

R151 I meant Khorkina in her head thought she’d win the gold, lol and then was pissed off when Zamo paid her back. But I agree, Khorkina was a great gymnast who brought unique style to the sport but she was always either fucking up just enough for her bitchiness to show through. But that was also part of her appeal, she had a bitchy charisma to boot.

Yes the logic is at fault but the low rating of her dismount isn't being done to attack her as she likes to paint,.so no, I don't think she's right about it.

r62 she took advantage of opportunities granted to her and when needed she matched the hype. She's been competing with an injury and getting points deducted because her routines are too complicated. Can we just give her credit for remaining a professional? Athletes always have to withdraw due to injuries. Sometimes it's before a huge event, other times it's not. She's still a great athlete and should make America proud. We all know that you can sign up for endorsement deals, but the media slapped her face on everything, making her the face of US Olympics. Meanwhile, she's performing through an injury, as are MANY athletes at the Olympics. Difference for her is that her "downfall" get's 10-30x the coverage.

Let's give the woman a break. I'd rather her withdraw then severely injure herself or suffer any mental breakdowns.

I like Simone, but was turned off when I saw her wearing slippers with GOAT on them and leotards with an embroidered goat. I don’t think GOAT is something an athlete should be saying about themselves, and especially not while they are still in their career. Can only set them up for a fall.

Let's face it.. Simone is an attention whore who always makes everything about her so that all eyes are on her at all times.

She most likely did this all intentionally because she knew it would get her even more attention than just winning another stupid Team Gold. Trust me on this!

Great, encourage more young people to drop out of shit.

R174 she only gets a break if she also withdraws from the individual events.

R165 I'd add that it also seems unsportsmanlike to her competitors.

[quote] It's ridiculous how she's just expected to carry Team USA and win everything

I like Simone and I feel for what she is going through mentally, but this is false. The U.S. women still won Team Gold and AA gold at a Biles-less 2017 Worlds.

Exactly what I've been screaming, R170!

Simone is one of the few who has had the issue of underscoring come up repeatedly. And FIG has done a piss-poor job of explaining the inconsistencies in their scoring system (because they really can't be explained). That plus Nellie Kim's straight up garbage comments about her give Simone every right to feel targeted or at least disrespected.

Simone can leave if she doesn't like it... she's proven she knows how!

R170, would you know that from ANY of the media coverage for the past 6 months? Or they way Tom Forrester has handled team selection?

I watched it all live and I knew as soon as she almost fell on her face she was going to quit. The GOAT can't handle being just like everyone else.

She wants the media attention like Naomi Osaka and Sha'carri Richardson. The real money is in celebrity endorsements, and nowadays you don't need to win. Megan Rapinoe is on every other commercial and they just pathetically lost.

R176 You're trying much too hard. Rapinoe would be invisible if the USWT hadn't dominated so thoroughly at Olympics and World championships. Biles's endorsements would have been much higher $ if she had performed as expected this Olympics.

What's your underlying motivation?

I knew something was going to go south with Biles when she did her Vault warm up. I don't even know why I thought it as she didn't have an noticable problems but something in her body language told me she was gonna mess up.

R177 I love Simone Biles. She is really likeable, and I wish her the best. These endorsement deals aren't just made on performance alone. These companies work with marketing companies to find relevant and popular ambassadors for their companies and products. They make these deals months and months ahead of the events. It's probably based off of this like sports media buzz, social media follower count, and their ability to talk to a camera. I'm sure that either her publicist or maybe even the companies PR suggested it would be better for her to quit and go for the "disrupter" angle rather than the loser angle. What's your motivation?

R171, poor Morgan. After contributing to USA gymnastics all quad, she was done wrong in the end, IMO.

She's been competing with injuries for a long time. She even postponed treating kidney stones for Worlds. She's also been publicly dealing with being one of Nassar's victims. Then the Olympics delay due the pandemic. Add in all that pressure and everything else and I think it just wore her down. Everyone talks about her like she's some superhuman freak of nature but clearly she is not and is tired of being regarded that way.

And yeah, maybe she's rather go out as a disruptor than risk competing but not doing well. So be it.

R181 all of the things you said Biles was dealing with, aside from Nassar, the rest of her competitors and teammates had also been dealing with as well. I lean more towards the leaving with a bang and setting up narrative of mental well-being for her post-retirement endeavors.

No one else has been under the same kind of spotlight Biles has. Also suggesting that they're fine so she should be too is absurd.

She was pretty bad in qualifications and even with that she qualified to all finals and was first in the AA.

Unless it's something really serious she will compete (and probably win)

She wanted to make the statement that she, and she alone, carries the team.

She'll sweep the individuals.

R181 Wow you are so totally getting Subway for lunch wearing your Nike shoes and gym shorts. In solidarity, of course. Again, I didn't say I didn't like her, I just see the sports media environment for what it is.

No r182, other teammates and most athletes are better able to fall into the crowd as a member of a very large crowd, be it Team US, Russia, or China. Simon is like Tom Delay and Michael Phelps, household names. The average person would struggle to name another gymnast on the US team, not to mention the number one for China or Russia. The West knows how the market the fuck out of their brands. She had considerably more pressure. There is a ton of pressure on all of them, but media attention can be intense.

I've been watching the Olympic Tik Tok videos. They are hilarious and awesome, btw. Almost every athlete, no matter the team, get's asked if they've met Simone. She famous internationally, thanks to the US media power and her skills. When even fellow Olympians are pushing to "run into you", you know you're not on the same stress level as the average athlete. Thankfully, her fellow athletes are being awesome supporters because all of them, no matter their sport or country, understand the pressure to perform.

No matter your views on Tik Tok or Simon, you all should check out their Ti Toks, it's great mundane fun. Especially when they thirst over each other, horny 20 year olds, lol.

^ I didn't say you didn't like her. You have me confused with someone else.

R185 so she deprived herself of another team gold medal just and a possible historic gold medal sweep just to stunt? Yeah, OK.

I get that she felt she needed to pullout for mental health reasons. I know how easy it is to mock world class athletes as "weak", especially when they seemingly have everything most of us could ever want.

But I won't do that. She HAS looked frazzled all week. Off.

However, pulling out of the team competition and staying in (apparently) the all around? Yikes. That's sure doesn't seem like a mental health issue. It does, however, feel very, very selfish.

She had an off day and that's all.

Anyway, Sunisa Lee should be a clear candidate to medal

R183 being in the spotlight comes with the territory as someone in her position should WANT to be in the spotlight. That’s the whole point behind marketing her persona. Are you saying the spotlight is a bad thing to be used as an excuse now? Or is the spotlight only good when people/ corporate sponsors are kowtowing to athletes?

An example of being in the spotlight and not falling back on excuses was Michelle Kwan in both her Olympics. Tgat was a time when ladies figure skating was huge, bigger than what gymnastics is today. Not having her personal best skates (she still should’ve won over Lipinski IMO) against lesser skaters who won gold. She was gracious afterwards and really became an example of great sportsmanship. If she was competing today, maybe she’d fall into the trap of athletes blaming mental health, pressure, everyone else.

Well, now I'm reading it was NOT a physical injury per Simone's own words as upthread posters noted. I didn't realize she was in such a bad head space. Once you quit, though, it gets harder to get back out there. We'll see what she does. I wonder if she'll even compete the rest of the Olympics. Her statement to the effect that she wanted this Olympics to be for her could mean she'll be in a better frame of mind for the individual events. She'll get dragged for that for sure though. Just look at this thread.

Well, Simone was gracious in defeat too. She congratulated the Russians one by one

I'm not saying being in the spotlight is bad or good, what I'm saying is that it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the athlete. We are saying that we understand the pressure, we understand that she's human, and we understand that at 24 that's a lot to handle. Any athlete that asks to bail out on a competition, after making it to the freakin Olympics, is not going to be a decision taken lightly.

She's bowed out with grace, congratulating her competitors, and continues to represent my country with honor and grace. I've played sports but was never great under pressure so i commend anyone that can find that focus point.

r19 this is r194, my statement was for you. I don't give weight to the mental health excused used all too often in the world today BUT someone in her position actually has a valid excuse as the pressure increases. It makes sense for a Olympian, not so much for a high schooler going through their first breakup or a recording artists crying about their pronouns. There is a huge difference, in my opinion. There are no tricks or excuses that can hide an athlete's deficiencies or failures, the way a high schooler or recording artists can cover for their mistakes.

R191, was she supposed to predict how her mind and body would react to that spotlight? Was she supposed to predict just how intense it would be? Among other absurdities you're basically blaming her for it being more than she could handle.

Ah. Mental health issues, the new Get Out if Jail Free card.

The minute she made that imperfect landing, bets were being laid that she suddenly realised she wasn't perfect after all and might actually lose ... and did exactly what some of us expected.

But after fucking over her team, she'll still be happy to compete for individual gold, making a miraculous recovery after ssf omw rest and meditation and therapy, right?

Just like Osaka pulling out of the French Open before risking losing on the kind of court she's least good on.

She gets all the way to the Olympics and suddenly after an imperfect landing finds she has mental health issues.

Please. If she has an ounce of integrity she won't insult her former teammates by recovering enough to try to go looking for individual glory.

Yes, it's just such a copout when people who are made to feel they are letting the whole world down if they are less than perfect don't want to perform if they think they won't be perfect.

R196 did I say anything about “predicting “ reaction to spotlight? Read my post again. I was responding to someone who used being in the spotlight as one of the excuses of concerns for mental health. Also “blaming”? Where the fuck did I blame her? I said in other post that I’m leaning towards the mental well-being angle for marketing purposes after retirement. That’s the extent of my “blaming”. And it’s not really blaming per se but just a more cynical take. Learn not to “blame” posters who have different views or who don’t kowtow to Biles.

Simone was flawless for years, everybody has an off day from time to time.

I still think she will win AA. Her routines are so difficult that she can even fail a bit and still win

Sets up a great story, huh? Falters big time in the team, all eyes on her and then she comes back courageously to win the Gold in the AA, overcoming her adversities and winning just for her!

Wish my mother had been such a good storyteller!

Match fixing. Paid off?

She should just come out as non-binary. Everyone in the media will hail her as a stunning hero.

The mental health angle would be interesting even suspicious, if she comes back for the AA. What better narrative than a GOAT suffering mental health breakdown yet is able to overcome it just in time for personal glory in AA. Great marketing angle, Biles would be even more revered than before. Overcoming mental meltdown/ breakdown in such short time and then win gold. If I was her agent I’d be suggesting the breakdown just to get to this point.

She and her team still won silver medals!!! After she withdrew, she was seen getting chalk for her teammates, staying on the mat to cheer them on, before congratulating the Russians. To back out and still get silver shows that she and her team are badass.

ALL THE TROLLS CAN SUCK PUTIN'S ASSHOLE!!!

Not the GOAT, apparently.

She also has physical injuries. pretty much all gymnasts do. Simone has a lot of issues with her ankles and is always in pain. During practices, she typically roles out of her moves to avoid landing on her feet due to the ankle issues. You can see fighting through the pain when you are mentally strong but when your mental state weakens, the physical pain and injury just seems a lot worse and you don't want to keep hurting with every step.

Disgusting. She owed me an Olympics performance. I deserve it.

Clearly she was under enormous pressure. She is among the greatest of all time, and I wish her well. I hope she doesn't compete more - it'd just complicate her own "recovery"

Clearly she contributed to the level of pressure. (GOAT on her clothing but one example)

My tight PUSSY got fingered, I'm Dirty...It's not OKAY to be OKAY!! Fucking Gash, and the Bitch is on Adderal. Speed Freak

R207 Competing injured is part of the job of an Olympic athlete.

At 24 she was older than most and years of pounding the mats have hurt her joints etc.

But this amazing woman was 46, ya think she hurt a bit?

I keep hearing reports that she was getting "lost in the air" during her practice and then competitive vaults. That means she was having trouble focusing, or experiencing something like vertigo. And if she couldn't get a handle on it, she had no choice but to pull out. This is the flip side of her incredible skills that are undervalued because they are "too dangerous"--if she is not up to performing them, then she is putting her life and health at risk trying. Unlike some other athletes, she can't just half ass her routines. If she couldn't manage an easy vault (for her) then she needed to stop before she got into the far more dangerous stuff. And that explains what she said in her press conference--she didn't just say it was mental, she said she didn't want to risk doing something "silly" and getting injured or costing the team a medal.

R212

Well that would explain her worried expression for the last two months.

I think it's appropriate to be kind and understanding to her - she is a great, great athlete.

I think being more conscious and sensitive to mental health and emotional balance is the right choice. The pressures at her level are enormous.

I also think that there was a day when "mental toughness" was something admired. Someone who, in spite of everything, could did down deep and perform, no matter what. Think Michael Jordan in the 1997 finals... deadly ill with the flu.... suited up and showed up and scored 37 points to lead his team to a victory. Think about Tom Brady playing all season and winning the Super Bowl with torn MCL... at 43 years old.

I think this kind of toughness is part of the quality of a GOAT.

Simone was "flying through the air speeding her brains out". Drugs are BADDDDDD...MMMMMMKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!

R212, my understanding is that it's a fairly common phenomenon with gymnasts, I've seen it referred to as the 'twisties', as in you lose where you are in the air while twisting. This would make sense in light of Simone's vault, which was supposed to be 2 1/2 twists but she turned it into 1 1/2.

Even Kippy Strug got back up after his foot fell asleep...

R216, but it usually happens to newbies or someone working too rapidly on a new skill. If it's happening repeatedly to someone as seasoned and well trained as Simone and she can't get a hold of it, that's a sign there's a bigger problem.

OMFG!

I knew it. She has been off since trials. She looked off in every way. Even her statements have seemed off. She could have adjusted her routines to make them less difficult. She really let her team down. I am pissed. I have been having a bad feeling about Simone for awhile. I told a friend I was worried she was not going to win Gold. I think she’s out of the Individual all-around.

I agree, TEAM USA is not being run correctly. The selections were not right. Tom is really fucking things up. Marty, as big a bitch as she is, would not have let this happen. Simone should have been seeing a team doctor for stress.

Grace was never going to add much value. Chiles has uncharacteristically fucked up. Suni has been less than on some apparatuses. The whole team has seemed off in one way or the other.

And I am sick of the person always posting those Russian whores as being examples of what THEY think graceful gymnastics should be. Fuck them.

1. She has looked off for quite a while now and while she's a part of a team she shouldn't have to carry them. It's possible they would have still come in second anyway as they did previously.

2. This isn't the same as Naomi Osaka. If Simone messes up she could break a bone, paralyze herself or worse. You don't think she knew how people would react if she dropped out? She did. She's having to face it now and somehow all of this negative attention was somehow better than her getting up there again. That says a lot.

3. People keep comparing this to Kerri Strug. Sorry, but not only did Kerri not need to do the routine for the US to win but she really shouldn't have. She could have messed herself up worse than she already was. That was a landing she couldn't walk away from. She had to be carried. Hero? Brave? Possibly? But "Brave" in the way the media will run a story about a single mother, working three jobs, just to pay for her son's medical treatments. Such a situation shouldn't even exist.

4. The Russians shouldn't be competing and yet somehow they are. That sours everything for me.

I just wonder if years down the road if she’ll have regrets. I think she will. That’s the sad part.

If Tom Brady called himself the GOAT, stitched GOAT on his uniform and then went out, threw an interception and walked off the field and quit instead of staying in the game, the same people praising Simone would crucify him for being a spoiled brat. She quit because she fucked up out of the gate and couldn't take it.

If Brady threw an interception because he had the spins and couldn't tell what direction he was throwing the ball, and then stepped back so his back up QB could take over and salvage a win, anyone who called him a spoiled brat for it would be an asshole.

What happened to the Chinese? I didn't get to watch the final.

[quote]If Tom Brady called himself the GOAT, stitched GOAT on his uniform and then went out, threw an interception and walked off the field and quit instead of staying in the game, the same people praising Simone would crucify him for being a spoiled brat. She quit because she fucked up out of the gate and couldn't take it.

Which Tom Brady?

Deflategate Tom Brady?

Occasional Trump Supporter Tom Brady?

or Spygate Tom Brady?

Congrats on choosing the actual worst example.

R224 China finished 7th. They need to get with the times and start training muscular body types for women’s gymnastics. Look at their team, all body types from bygone era with wispy, longer limbed gymnasts instead of stocky, tumbling circus powerhouses that make up the US, GB, and Italian teams, all finished ahead of China.

I have very mixed feelings about this. I feel badly that she was in a bad place mentally, but aren't world class athletes competing in the Olympics supposed to have a bit more grit? She's not a newbie or a youngster, if she knew she was mentally in a bad place days ago couldn't someone else have taken her spot?

It became more of an issue for her I suspect because of the unreal amount of HYPE from NBC/US Media.

r223 If she pulls out of individual events I'll believe she's actually having a problem.

R205 of course she still helped out.. she wanted to make sure she still got camera time!

R212 if she was truly having issues with air sense, etc. It didn't happen overnight and she should have pulled out before the competition started. And again, if that's the reason then she needs to pull out of the rest of the competition. It's all too suspicious if those issues magically clear up for her to win individual medals.

Sorry, wait . . . she is only mentally ill for the team competition but not the personal competitions?

SO she can still win gold for HERSELF but not for her team?

Oooookay, just a peculiarly unique mental health issue. LOL!

WTF is going on with these pampered athletes?

She loves money so how much did those Russians pay her off? This entire scenario is just all too convenient and her 2 1/2 yurchenko to 1 1/2 looked all too intentional!

I agree, R220, about 1, 2 and 3 in your post. In regard to Kerri Strug, that's an example of what Simone was fighting against, that old idea that you should do anything to get a gold medal. I remember how NBC's canned coverage of that Olympics made it seem like Kerri secured gold. She didn't need that second vault and the US would have still won. The US team leaders knew that, too, although I think they denied it. When I found that out afterward, I just though my God, why did they let that girl vault again? No thought for the athlete.

Simone decided her health was more important. You have to be in the right frame of mind to do the life-threatening skills that Simone attempts. There have been gymnasts who have been paralyzed for life after missing a skill. She clearly was not mentally with it when she twice bailed out of her Amanar to do a Yurchenko 1 1/2 instead, and squatted down on both attempts, in both the warm-up and the one she competed. Something was wrong. Even if that was just that her head wasn't in the right space, that's still potentially life-threatening, or has the potential to permanently disable an athlete.

It seems there is a different mindset among the US women's team now. They didn't seem disappointed to get silver. I think they truly were aiming for top 3 and didn't care for the pressure of having to win. Russia on the other hand was quite determined and you could tell those women wanted it more. They had the same determination the US did in the 2012 Olympics when they beat Russia for the title. I like the the US women seemed genuinely happy for Russia. They were simply the better team on the day. That's what the Olympics is all about.

Kerri absolutely needed to do that vault... no, they did not know they didn't need her vault at the time. The Russians hadn't finished floor yet. They found out after the fact that the vault never mattered.

And again, the entire Russian Federation should not have been allowed to compete. This is the second Olympics they've been given a pass, and Lord knows why.

R234 = Marta Karolyi

R236 = Dominque Moceanu who never let facts get in the way of her constant lies!

R221 no, because people are making an actual VIRTUE out of what she did. It’s so fucked up.

This is akin to the girl that wants a big white wedding so bad, but doesn't realize that she's not in love.

I think Biles needs to do what she feels comfortable, it’s her body/ headspace after all. What I’m saying below is not directed against her, in fact I think she was very gracious and mature in her statement towards her teammates. However, I think the criticism of celebrity athletes using mental health as a way to buttress against pressure or scrutiny is a cop out. The implication is that their mental health is fragile, suggesting that pressures of competition is on par in severity with actual mental health disorders. I don’t think this conflation is helpful to the public discourse on mental health/ well-being.

Experiencing stress, having negative thoughts/ feelings related to work, family, and personal life, these are a normal aspects of the human experience. They’re a part of life. It’s about how you navigate these things and how to distinguish between them from actual mental health disorders. But now it seems like a thing for top star athletes to use mental health to preemptively strike against scrutiny. They only want positive press and publicity in promoting corporate sponsors/ commercial deals.

Sorry it should be “ I think the criticism of celebrity athletes using mental health as a way to buttress against pressure or scrutiny as a cop out is a valid one”

Let's say it for what it is; she was crushed by the pressure while the world looked on.

The first Olympic swimmer from Alaska is 17 and she won the gold medal. The people back home were in what looked like a school gymnasium watching and when she won they were literally leaping with joy. That one story is worth more than all of Biles' drama.

She didn’t help herself with GOAT stuff too. Maybe in retrospect she knows she shouldn’t have carried it that far? Who knows. But that’s an extra piece of pressure that she put on herself.

The unintended consequence now is that most of the attention is on Biles for withdrawing from team competition, not how her teammates working to take the silver. On SM too a lot of the praise is directed towards Biles as being heroic and courageous in tackling her own mental health condition. Like I say, she needed to do what’s best for herself, but I take issue in the media/ SM narrative of this action as extraordinarily heroic. She did what she felt like she had to do. The attention and praise should be given to her teammates as Biles herself has said.

And Im sure Simone eillmdecode it's in the best interest of her mental health tomgonahrad and compete for Individual glory, no problem!

*will decide

Greatest Quitter Of All Time.

She choked on the biggest sporting stage in the world.

As expected, the media rushed to brand this as brave. They were never going to attack a black athlete.

Now hold up a minute. Wouldn't she have had access to probably the best sports psychologists in the world over the years? She's a global sports superstar; she must see psychotherapists routinely, you'd think it would be mandatory for team members, and wasn't she molested or something? And yet we're expected to believe that this is an all a sudden breakdown in the middle of the team competition at the olympics? Sorry, but something doesn't add up for me.

It's fascinating how NBC Primetime's coverage has obviously gone and retroconned their coverage and set it up to paint a portrait of Simone as having all of these issues that everyone was aware of so that when they get to her vault, they don't act shocked. They're doing a great job of making her out to be a victim of media pressure, as though she didn't play a huge part of the hype herself.

It's also sort of weird watching her teammates non-react to her vault. Literally none of her teammates told her it would be okay or even offered her any reaction.

R250 You sound ignorant.

There is a good video breakdown by a former gymnast explaining that Simone got “lost in the air” or as some gymnasts have described it, the twisties. It’s almost like vertigo, because of the disorientation she involuntarily started opening up too early in the air preparing to land, its incredibly dangerous as the most important thing a gymnast needs to know at all times is where they are in relation to the ground. This can be exacerbated by stress. Her mental game may have been the initiator but the reasons she pulled out I feel absolutely had physical safety implications and she and her coaches made the choice that she felt was right for her.

I don’t feel there was any failure to prepare on anyone’s part, once it happens there is a huge risk in continuing.

Glad she did what was best for her safety, she would have been damned either way, she continues and underperforms she lost them gold , she opts out she lost them gold.

R250, exactly. And yet we're expected to buy the line, from her own mouth, that she's the GOAT.. that's not GOAT behavior.

Additionally, it'll be harder to swallow when she's magically able to pull it together and have no issues when it's time for her to compete for individual medals.

Nbc must be loving this drama and you can bet they will milk that will she or won’t ensuing drama for the event finals.

It's not ignorant to question how this "came out of nowhere," and at the same time, the story is that she's had issues like this for some time. If she has indeed been having these issues, she should have pulled from the competition sooner.

Something doesn't add up. Is it all Simone, doubtful.

I wonder how much Tom played a part in this. Is he the one that pressured her to continue anyway because he so poorly selected the team around her?

Did you see the slow motion of her vault? The look in her eyes was chilling. She got completely lost in the air. WTF is happening? Of course it is our BEST athlete! Mother fuck!

Let's face it.. Simeone found the way to make the story ALL ABOUT HER!

Bitch really is stealing everything and coming for all of my titles!

All this high blown rhetoric is smoke and mirrors. ALL she will be known for now on is being the girl who quit and let her team down. Period. Get ready for all the interviews blaming racism,blah,blah,blah. Shes a fucking quitter,no prettying that up.

Nah, R258, it's clear that with the help of media, she's going to be made a hero for self-care and for her amazing ability to overcome mental stress when she somehow manages to pull it together and unselfishly win all her individual medals.

Can someone BEAT THE SHIT out of the poster who is bringing up race? STFU you fucking psycho. NO ONE has brought up race except YOU you deranged republican.

IDK what has happened to Simone but she has been off before the Olympics. She was off at trials. She just didn’t have that same look in her eyes. Something happened to her outside of the sport. Who knows what but you can see it in her face. Something just snapped.

And it had to be the fucking RUSSIANS who won. Fuck them. Chiles didn’t have a lot of time to warm up on two events because she was not supposed to do them.

Watching primetime coverage and the slo mo replay of both her practice and actual vaults, it looked like she blanked out and broke form in the middle of it each time. What ever the reason why, that's scary and as everyone keeps saying very uncharacteristic for her. She has to be laser focused to do what she does or she'll end up with a broken neck.

It's possible whatever is happening to her snuck up or feels like it snuck up on her. It's possible it all came to a head for her after she got to Tokyo. But it's also very possible she's been struggling for a while and was pushed (by herself and others) to just suck it up and keep going, because the biggest narrative around her is that her at her worst is still better than everyone else at her best.

R259 Then she will come back in Paris and help the US reclaim gold from the evil russian barbies.. NBC will want it no other way.

R256 look in her eye in slow mo? Are you kidding me? All I saw was how staged and calculated it was and how she's clearly got a huge Russian paycheck to sell out America!

Seriously though, they're claiming she had these problems in training and practice before the meet. I'm going with Tom Forrester pressuring her to compete anyway because he fucked up the selection process so badly . He always fucks everything up, trust me, I know all about his sad, pathetic, inability to do anything right.

[quote] She just didn’t have that same look in her eyes. Something happened to her outside of the sport. Who knows what but you can see it in her face. Something just snapped.

Blame the boyfriend... every time she mentions the boyfriend I immediately sense he's a bad influence!

She's not going to make it to the Paris games. USAG will definitely use this as an excuse to blackball her. They already hate her and were just waiting for a reason.

If she even tries for Paris, which she has indicated she has no plans to, whoever is in charge in 2024, probably someone like Zmeksal, who'll be more than happy to be USAG's mouthpiece, will say she's too unpredictable to be put onto the team.

24 seems old to be an Olympic gymnast. Aren't they usually teens? I recall in a couple of Olympics that the Chinese had a couple of competitors that were said to be 14 but looked 11.

She won’t try for Paris.

There is a gymnast that is close to 50.

R267 We will see it is just three years away, so my bet is after a year and a half off she will make a comeback for Paris.

R268, you're referring to Oksana Chusovitina, 46, who came to these Games as an 8 time Olympian.

An anomaly, and a record that Biles will not break.

I agree R243. Lydia Jacoby's swim and the reaction from back home in Alaska gave me goosebumps, all three times I watched it.

That's what the Olympics should be all about.

What really pisses me off about NBC's Primetime coverage with Daggett is that the commentary is so clearly done after the fact.

[quote]Simone got “lost in the air” or as some gymnasts have described it, the twisties. It’s almost like vertigo, because of the disorientation she involuntarily started opening up too early in the air preparing to land, its incredibly dangerous as the most important thing a gymnast needs to know at all times is where they are in relation to the ground

R252 LMAO I reading this and thinking, "hey, this came exact phenomenon of losing your position relative to the ground happens in flying with pilots, and usually ends in a death spiral, and is why equipment is so important!"

Just a reminder that I never abandoned my team the way these supposed, GOATs have... looking at Simone and Shannon.

R272, Nastia gave it away when she said "live" that she messaged Simone's coach to ask if she was OK and revealed the response. As if Simone's coach in the midst of all this chaos is checking for Nastia's texts.

R274 Deplorable Kerri you were always expendable.

She had to…she’s hosting Jeopardy next week.

Her eyes looked out of it when she was landing the vault. Scary.

At the Alaskans jumping for joy- ever since I noticed the boy in green shorts grabbing his dick like 3 times that is all I can see. It is obvious. Must be a nervous tick.

R278 what? I need to see that again which is weird cause NBC has showed that clip about 29374927394 times and I did not catch it.

All the idiotic GOAT hype, much of it self-imposed, probably did her in. It’s an idiotic amount of pressure to put yourself under. Every two years NBC hypes one or two individual Americans as the best hope for Olympic gold, but doing the whole “greatest ever” routine was likely too much for Biles to live up to. Like, heaven forbid she got silver, that would still be a major failure in the eyes of pretty much everybody watching the games.

Domimque Moceanu at R276, kindly shut the fuck up.

I was known as a teenage hero... you were known as a teenage whore.

The only thing expendable was your virginity which you so quickly gave up when you ran off to the Cayman Island's and let some married dude pop that puss.

Smooches!

Everybody remembers Kerri Strug as a hero. Biles will always be remembered as a quitter.

Watching the Americans on floor makes you wish they all would have quit.

Kerri you were known as the Mushroom headed Gollum. Are you still jealous that men actually wanted my puss, unlike yours?

Thank you Jordyn and Simone! Now I don't look as bad as those two losers!

Chiles was a fucking disaster US needed an Aly Raisman.

R284, uh.. no. Why would I be jealous your father loved your twat?

Imagine if Russia had to field a team of 6, would they even place in the top 12?

Russians crashed on Beam.

Americans are being scored low. It is obvious.

R286, the US needed me.

If this were a 5 or 6 member team the USA would have crushed everybody.

It is SO "In" right now to plead mental illness these days in sports. It's a popular excuse for giving up or not being able to cut it. And oh my, don't the ones who whine about their supposed mental illness get admiration heaped on them! As for Simone Biles, well, I'm sick of her. I'm sick of hearing how perfect she is. I'm sick of the praise constantly heaped on her. It's disgusting.

The US isn't getting scored low... they're being deducted for their atrocious form and dance.

Icarus. No one shared that story with her.

[quote]NBC was promoting her in constant rotation on all its platforms as the Second Coming of the Virgin Mary. Tears and screams at the Comcast Building this morning,

There's still Springsteen's daughter to hype straight into the ground. When does the equestrian events start? And what Bruce song will NBC use in their Jessica Springsteen package?

R292 are you tired of the praise she heaped ON HERSELF?

Where did the Chinese falter? Of course, NBC isn’t showing it. Is it me or has gymnastic coverage shrank considerably this year?

R255

Well, duh! I'm sure she also felt something was wrong a while back, but like you or anyone would do, she chalked it up to nerves or pressure.

Then when she started performing worse and worse (Olympic trials day 2, qualifying for Olympics etc.) she kept on fighting, but she reached a breaking point. Unfortunately, that was at the beginning of the meet.

Do you know how events actually happen, R255. There are gray areas in life!

US is being scored low, I agree.

To lose your best gymnast and still get Silver is great.

Gymnastics did everything in it’s power to keep other countries competitive with the USA. This Russia gold is really like that stupid annoying stumps 1984 all around gold should be followed by an asterisk.

r301

sadly it's true because Russia won because of a gymnast who would NOT been able to compete last year(because of her age) was able to this year

R297 they have really low start values on vault and floor. They also didn't take advantage of their best events, bars and beam.

R302, Jordan also wouldn't have been eligible last year.

Melinkova is the prettiest gymnast out of Russia since the Painted Bird of Odessa, the last true, great Champion, Tatiana Gutsu!

R305 Another cheater

R298 and if she had an indication that there were problems, a TRUE GOAT would have withdrawn !

r304

uhhh Jordan placed 2nd at nationals in 17 so she has been eligible BUT she definitely learned her newfound (kinda) consistency and confidence this past year

This loser is no Kerri Strug, that's for sure.

The US women were scored too low on beam, but on floor and bars I think they just didn't do what they could.

It’s menopause. For sure.

R305 She is probably a huge whore like Gutsu.

Our resident racist loves BLOND Russians. So funny

All the Russians are whores. Duh

I agree, Americans scored fair on bars and floor. Unfair on beam. But Russians have been over scored on just about everything.

Those judges so badly wanted the Russians to win.

Simone needs to get her shit together. At the WORST possible time. I’ve never seen a collapse this spectacular.

Shannon may hold her title now. Aahahahahahahaha to the Shannon haters.

This!

WHY IS NBC not showing ALL the gymnasts? We’ve seen none from other countries aside from USA and Russia. Fucking sucks

[quote]But Russians have been over scored on just about everything.

Lies!

R318 because most American viewers don't care about other athletes.

Tune in to Peacock or NBC Olympics for full coverage.

R320 Not true

Russians are always overscored. Judges paste over a lot of errors because of those balletic moves and posture. Reminds me of Oksana Baul winning gold with one of the weakest long programs ever because everyone was so dazzled by her tippie toe ice dancing.

R315, the FIG hates the American dominance. The stuff with Simone gave them an easy opportunity to fix it.

r320

it's not that much better there either sadly

Absolutely true. Most casual American viewers don't give a shit about watching other countries. NBC's coverage of athletes from other countries has been non Existent since the 90s.

None of the teams were sharp. None.

R322 Preach!

R324, which feed are you watching? The NBC OLympics App offers Main Coverage, American Coverage and a Four Screen, no Commentary, All Event Coverage.

American viewers like seeing other countries in GYMNASTICS.

Fuckin Russians always overscored.

All teams really sucked. One of the worst Team Finals ever.

R322 Russians don’t even like Artistic Gymnastics. Rhythmic is far more popular there and it fits more to the ballet movements.

American Gymnastics Fans like seeing other countries in Gymnastics, Bo and Debbie in Montana only want to see Muricans.

Doesn't this make you miss the last, actual great days, of Gymnastics?

R330 Most like seeing the other gymnasts. Gymnastics is so interesting and popular. This is the worst gymnastics coverage ever. Atrocious.

Not really.

Yeah, all teams were off. Shitty Team Final.

Why the fuck are the fucking Russians allowed to compete???

Fuck them and the radioactive bus they rode in on.

Fuck them.

r327

I'm watching on nbcolympics but the main feed and even the us tracker misses lots of routines. The multi feed is nice but can be very overwhelming on what to focus on... I would give the coverage online a B but it usually gets better after the team events are over. FOr example, how many routines were shown on the main feed for the bronze medalist GB team?

I'm sympathetic.. it's still called 'artistic' gymnastics. The ugly clunky stuff - robotic jerks here and there passing for 'artistry' - makes me cringe. Can nobody do both?

Let's remember, Americans only watch Gymnastics because of ME!

Hey, can I see your wallet for a second?

in the MAG team, neither feed showed more than half of the gold medal winning Russia team

R337 US coaches just don’t care to send their girls to ballet and dance training.

R336, I don't think NBC even showed a routine that wasn't Russian or American.

The NBCOlympics Main Feed with John and Bridget was 100x better than anything NBC has shown in 20 years.

I would rather tumbling and full on athleticism but then again I’m younger. I don’t mind artistry but this is an athletic event.

I agree, all teams seemed to struggle.

[quote]If she wasnt capable of handling the pressure of being, "the lead," she can't be considered GOAT.

Incorrect.

I keep seeing this over and over again, "She called herself the GOAT!" "She thought she was the GOAT!" "She had GOAT on her shoes!"

She has 4 gold medals and 2 silver so far at the Olympics. She has multiple moves named after her that no one has ever pulled off before and when you consider her medal count over the course of her career she really is still, unarguably the greatest woman gymnast of all time by the numbers.

Her agreeing that she is the GOAT is her owning that. Did it do her in? It probably helped but absolutely none of it was a lie. Whatever happened here will absolutely not change facts for anyone that actually is involved with any of this.

She has outdone every gymnast in history including all of the people that were referenced here. There isn't a single serious publication that will say otherwise. She just is for now until someone else wins more than she has.

(My fave was Dominique Dawes, not Simone BTW but even I know she couldn't hold a candle to her.)

R341 I mean there was a nice chinese, GB and Italian routine here and there, but still meh. They will probably show gymnasts from different countries in the event finals.

Was she a Larry Nassar accuser?

Nah, you can't be the Goat if you you can't handle the pressure!

I'm still Queen Supreme so far... and I had three skills named after me!

Yes, Simone was one of Nassar's victims.

She is the GOAT. Her World Championships and all prove that. No female, and most men, aren’t as good as she is on her worst day. Had she stayed in, I bet USA would have gotten Gold even with her very off.

Again, no female gymnast has been as technically great and as consistent for so long as Simone. It is a shame this happened.

[quote]Again, no female gymnast has been as technically great and as consistent for so long as Simone.

Come talk to me after she's made it to 5 Olympics!

Let's not forget... I have TWO Team Golds!!!

R348 lmao EVERYONE is better than her "on her worst day" because she QUIT!

And you, r252, sound gullible. Ever heard of critical thinking?

She is mentally weak as fuck! She ain't no goat! She crumbled when the going got tough! That ain't the way a real champion react!

Maybe she was too busy fucking in the village

R353 the going wasn’t tough when she won her 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and on…..World Championships? Or her last Olympics when ALL eyes were on her? Or the years after Rio? Look, IDK WFT is going on. It is crazy. I think something is going on with the boyfriend.

People are acting like Simone is Vanessa Atlar or something. If Simone was mentally weak she would have fucked up badly and not even make an olympic team despite having amazing skills( like Atlar)

USA wasn’t good Russia had many falls, landings wobbly Chinese collapsed

Did Romania not even make it? Wow

The gymnast also said her main inspiration to “focus on my well-being” was tennis ace Naomi Osaka.

Blame Naomi!

Also, she already made millions on endorsements, she probably hasn't been working that hard

R357, Romania hasn't had a team in the past TWO Olympics.

She just gave up, didn't even try. Fucking useless cunt.

I agree with R259. If I thought we lived in a world in which shenanigans were pulled - crazy thought, right? As if! - I’d wonder if it wasn’t a setup to highlight this weirdly over-the-top “mental health” kick we seem to be on.

R359 They won’t have one in Paris either.

Maybe all those gymnasts who were badly hurt in the past should have focused on their mental health?

She isn't saying she is mentally ill or has a mental illness. She is talking about mental health / mental fitness just like physical health / physical fitness. Everyone has mental health that varies in terms of how mentally healthy we are depending on the day, week, month, year etc. Completely different from mental illness.

If you aren’t laser focused in gymnastics you could die. Or be seriously hurt.

That said, WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NBC shows ENDLESS swimming, but barely showed their marquee event- gymnastics. I don’t remember them showing this many heats and semis before. Next week, it will be almost nonstop track and field. They need to spread some of this out. They did a shitty job in Rio (and London) with showing gymnastics but this year is by far the worst.

There's Gen Z for you.

R367 they should just kill themselves like gen x huh?

This is the beginning of the end. Gymnastics is gonna be like womens figure skating now. All russia all the time. All the girls eating nothing but meldonium or whatever that is.

I do blame the coordinator Tom though. 2 alternates, 1 with covid and another quarantined. All the eggs in the Simone basket. No scouting of other teams, just over reliance on Simone and cockiness. Didnt rein in all the Simone coverage- everybody and their mother was interviewing her, thats gotta be a distraction. He let Simone also do whatever the fuck she wanted, he couldve told her to stay in bounds and work on that! He didnt develop any other bars worker other than Suni and a gimpy Riley Mckusker who is embroiled in some crazy drama. He made the other ladies who isnt Jade Carey (who told him to f off prob coz she already got her spot) compete all around style, therefore not developing their strengths, making the rest of the team jack of all trades master of none. He relied on Simone way too much. The Karolyis were abusive, but they knew their team well.

As much as Simone brought up the GOAT conversation herself, she has nobody to share the olympic spotlight with this time around. In 2016, Michael Phelps was around. Lebron was around. Bad ass Aly Raisman was there on the team with her and that woman is tough. Gabby Douglas was taking the media heat because of her overbearing mother, but she delivered.

Mental health has long been overlooked so fuck some of you.

Gen X and Millenials have far fewer serial killers than Boomers or The Greatest Generation which produced so many you can’t keep up.

Let's be honest. Would she be the GOAT if she didn't take Ritalin all these years? All you need to legally dope is get a doctor to diagnose you and prescribe stimulants. Is that really fair?

Katie ladecky is not doing well either... No gold for her. She came in 5th!

I wonder if they had the covid and the virus fucked up their fitness etc.

I'm sure all the Russians all have medical waivers for Ritalin too now!

This Olympics is a damn disaster.

So Ritalin makes you flip, twist and jump higher than everyone now?

Part of sport is mental toughness. I can say I do amanars and chengs in my living room, but if I cant perform it in front of everybody, then they didnt happen. But then again, its just sport, nobody cured cancer. She shouldve called herself goat after the olympics though not before, that was very unnecessary.

R376 “Mental toughness” comes and goes with some people.

Don’t bring up doping and not bring up Russia!

Ritalin doesn’t give you an edge if you honestly have ADHD. It can make you sluggish if anything.

I agree, the USA gymnastics program is not going well. You can FEEL the discipline is gone. The tightness is gone. Karolyis could have been reigned in but they knew what it took. I agree with much of what R369 said. They relied on Simone and didn’t manage the rest of the team well.

Men - She's a quitter.

Women - She's brave.

First of all gymnastics needs to get rid of the age rule. it is pretty damn stupid to see 14 year old divers and skateboarders and not gymnasts. They should be showcasing the best of their sport regardless of age.

IF you really have ADHD.

The rule used to be 14 and who did that ever hurt?

China kept cheating on the age rule. Their 14 was really 10.

What’s the deal about the Gymnastic Federation not giving Simone Biles full score for difficulty for fear other gymnasts will hurt themselves trying to copy her???

The Simone thing is soooo odd but she has proven herself over and over and over. So not a quitter. Or, I think she should have gotten help for whatever is going on. It’s the boyfriend.

R384 That is code for we don’t want you to dominate. It is ridiculous they wouldn’t give her what she deserves. How many gymnasts are going to try the shit she does? NOT MANY. If ANY.

R385 I agree he is a BAD influence I also get druggie vibes from him.

It's Melnikova, thank you very much.

Angelina.

R377 exactly. Which is the main Lebron vs Jordan argument. Lebron is much more physically gifted than Michael Jordan, but if you need a basket in the game when it matters, most people will give the ball to Jordan. Which isnt to say Lebron isnt tough, I think he toughened up over time. But MJ is not just goat but biggest asshole of all time, he finds a way.

The whole issue of not valuing a skill isn't to "keep her down." It's a common practice in the sport. They've devalued a ton of skills because they don't want the sport going in that direction. It's often ridiculous but it's not a personal attack toward Simone.

R390 Why devalue a skill? If you can do it, you can do it. Oh well. Tough titty if you can’t and somebody else can.

Simone should withdraw from the individuals. Some of her teammates who did well in qualifications can't compete because of the two per country rule.

Ironic considering the US is the one that pushed for the 2 per country rule.

R392 Jade would have no chance at an overall individual all-around medal. It is either Suni or nothing if Biles is out.

R393 Why would they? They’d sweep a lot of medals.

They definitely needed an Aly, Gabby, Laurie on this team.

R393 the US pushed for it because they were pissed back when Romania and USSR/Russia/CIS kept winning everything and the US couldn't get into the medals.

Now that the US has dominated on/off for the past two decades, it has backfired on them.

R395 those countries didn’t sweep everything. Shannon Miller won a shitload of individual medals starting in 1992. A few others won individual medals.

Simone has a fucked up fam? How about finding out, as an adult, that your parents gave up your SISTER at birth because she was born without arms or legs!!!

The Romanians/USSR/Russia were better in this sport. They just were. The the US went all bat-shit and decided they'd become thick athletes and all interest went out the window. It started with that stupid little Mary Lou Rotten Crotch. Why don't they just chuck barrels across the mat and see how they tumble? It would be just as intriguing.

And no, I'm not Russian. I'm American born and raised, also a gymnast for years. I continue to love the sport, but hate what it has become.

I wonder if she'll suffer as much as Viola?

R398 Oh STFU so sorry your Russians and Romanians had more artistry but can’t keep up the difficulty. The sport MOVED passed them. Sucks to be them. They have to pray our best flames out to beat us.

The sport actually became about, shock, athleticism. What a concept.

You're completely forgetting about what it was like Pre-1990 and Post 1996...

US could NOT get in the medals in the 70s and were pissed the Soviets were taking all three medals in events.

Hence the push to limit it to two per Country.

R397 how about you're just a liar liar? You were like 6 and supposedly didn't realize your mom was pregnant?

Stupid or dumb, take your pick!

DL is a racist shithole. Muriel, why do you refuse to address hate speech?

R398 Just watch sissy princessy rhythmic gymnastics and watch anorexic skeletal girls throw ribbons in the air if you are afraid of bouncing tiny women who have muscles. Russians win all them too, so it will make you happy.

It’s called Artistic Gymnastics for a reason. It should be about artistry.

You said it, R406.

R406 Art is in the eye of the beholder and watching people do amazing ATHLETIC feats is art.

R405 EXACTLY. Nobody gives a fuck about that boring shit. Toes pointed perfectly? Oh JOY! NOT

Yes, much like listening to someone who can technically sing well, but fails to really bring it in terms of artistry. Fascinating stuff.

R403 I was just a baby& since the fetus didn’t have legs, mommy’s tummy didn’t stick out so much. I thought she was just getting fat.

R410 Not EVEN remotely the same. This is about ATHLETICISM

Men compete in artistic gymnastics also, and yet there's never this "need more artistry!" controversy on their side.

It's the same with figure skating. Everyone understands it's about executing difficult elements well when the men do it, but for some reason with the women we get all tangled up in "so what if it wasn't as difficult, it was PRETTY!"

Girls, girls, stop! The same argument can be made about figure skating.

Yes, it is. Gymnastics is closely related to dance, ballet, etc. which are all based in musical arts. There is a very strong connection.

And if you want to consider those things as insignificant or inferior because they're perceived as more feminine (they aren't, check who historically have the creators these things), that's your problem, not mine.

Sorry not sorry but being athletic in gymnastics is more important. The Russiaphiles are upset it is no longer that way.

Simone Bails is more like it!

But nobody is stopping you from watching rhythmic gymnastics if dancing and ballet is what you want to see.

R419 And what a joke that sport is!

If we want to watch dancing, we watch dancing. If we want to watch ballet we watch ballet. I don't think it's too much to ask for some balance when performing "artistic gymnastics".

R421 No, if someone is doing insane tricks and the execution is still very high (with Simone) I’ll go with that over whether it “looks” pleasing to some old fogey.

Gymnastics coverage has been horrible. They show every swimming event (because it’s live) so they sacrifice gymnastics. I agree, this is the worst coverage I’ve ever seen.

They need to move gymnastics to the daytime so they can actually show them live in the statres but NBC prefers their highly edited bullshit.

The coverage is garbage, and NBC has been maligned for it year after year, and they haven't changed shit.

If you watched men's diving the other night or gymnastics tonight, you'd think there were only three nations competing in diving and two in gymnastics.

It's edited to death, and it's not what the Olympics is about.

I don't care if Dee and Dan Plorable only want to see Muricans while they shovel Cheetos into their fat recliner-encased holes. The Olympics is about a meeting of nations—not just in swimming when they can get the camera on everyone at the same time.

[quote] They need to move gymnastics to the daytime so they can actually show them live in the statres but NBC prefers their highly edited bullshit.

The gymnastics are during our daytime. The Men’s All-Around starts at 6:15am Wednesday morning and is viewable online.

R425 It wasn’t always that way. I’ve heard so much about how NBC is going to show us “as many sports as ever” when NOBODY wants to see, in primetime, a marathon or a heat in swimming or a meet in water polo. They sacrificed so many minutes to HEATS in swimming when the biggest story was gymnastics as it always is, whether Simone was in it or not. What a joke! In 1996, they showed, probably, the gymnastics coverage for hours nonstop.

R426 Yes but show it on a platform we can record! On a streaming service. Most of us WORK. Even then, most have said the coverage is lacking.

r428, why would you need to record it? You can watch the replay videos of the events online any time during the day that you want on NBC Sports.

R429 Not the same. This is their marquee event.

r430, that’s why they have the coverage for gymnastics available both online and on primetime, so that no one can say they didn’t have the opportunity to watch such marquee events. Of course, there will be some people like you who deliberately choose not to take the opportunity (out of spite or something(?)).

This is sadly the way things are going to go and I don't see it improving for anyone here that hates it anytime soon.

They know which events will do well being watched live on TV.

They know which would be best suited for streaming because most people won't watch them.

They also know that most people will watch replays and clips of just the highlights of the day online preferring not to have all that other stuff in between.

That's not the way it was when I was kid but I will at admit, I know if something great happens I do figure I can just watch clips of it later.

R431 As some have said here, the coverage wasn’t much better there.

The coverage was pretty good for the Rio Olympics because they were in the same time zone as the US. so we saw stuff live.

R434 They weren’t. You’d think they were. They were bad.

ABC had the best coverage of all time.

R436 Couldn’t be worse than ABC

I've told you guys before that American networks suck at covering anything international. Get BBC or CBC and CTV from Canada for proper and professional international coverage of world news/events.

R437 Sorry, couldn’t be worse than NBC

Abc woud be much better they own the espn channels so they would show a lot more live action on tv instead of relying on their shitty app/ website.

Live coverage is not all it’s cracked up to be esp since most people work during those live hours. The shit they choose to show during prime time now is ridiculous. They want to show as “many sports as possible” but in doing so they satisfy nobody. Yet, they’re happy to show ALL the swimming heats which they didn’t use to.

I can almost guarantee on the US coverage of sports, it is to make sports political. Swimming is one sport where men are more close to nude than women. I know that is why they are featuring that sport. It's to prove some stupid point.

R442 WHAT? You sound like a stupid trumper. Prove a point because of how they’re dressed? Their coverage would prove the opposite-the less dressed the more coverage by the sexist media.

The US women’s execution scores were lower than they should have been.

[quote]Simone Biles withdraws from individual all-around competition at Tokyo Olympics to focus on mental health

[quote]"After further medical evaluation, Simone Biles has withdrawn from the final individual all-around competition at the Tokyo Olympic Games, in order to focus on her mental health," the statement read. "We wholeheartedly support Simone's decision and applaud her bravery in prioritizing her well-being. Her courage shows, yet again, why she is a role model for so many."

The full statement:

Wow, R445... this is proof that God really does love Shannon Miller the most.

It'll be interesting if Simone pulls out of the vault final. If she does, she won't get that double pike Yurchenko named after her.

She wants to avoid injury that will impact her earnings potential post-Olympics. No Wheaties for you, sourpuss.

What a disaster.

She's just invalidated her legacy.

Coaches and teachers are having enough problems teaching kids perseverance. Now the "GOAT" Olympian is the role model for participation trophies.

With the announcement at R445... that would seem to prove the Gossip at R449 as made up fiction. Blind Gossip fiction? Imagine that!

I wonder how her sponsors feel about this.

Right after a news story about her dropping out today, NBC ran a commercial for a protein shake, starring Biles, talking about how she relied on it for her recovery, which she considered as important as her performance.

Adults who have never been exceptional at anything should reflect and then shut up about this woman’s decision. Whining about a gymnast! Embarrassing.

McKayla Sjinner should replace Simone in the vault final.

R452, they probably don't care. All this extra coverage is just giving them more for their money.

Plus, it can be spun so that it looks like they're supporting someone who is brave and putting their mental health first, which means x Brand also cares about important things like your mental health!

Sorry, but this is supposed to be the best of the best. I'm not interested in every sport, but there should be some level of competition. That's the whole idea, Someone dropping out of what was once one the most popular Olympic sports overall, but one of the only that is dominated by women, is weak. Particularly for someone who bedazzeled themself with GOAT. No, I don't think so.

If Simone pulls out of Vault, Mykayla will replace Simone, as she was the 4th qualifier. I sort of wish Simone's absence would open up a spot for Chusovitina to compete.

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Choke choke choke.

So GOAT means she like goats...and lambs and cows and other farm animals, I guess.

Nice.

Right because her teammates are gonna come out and say to everyone that Simone fucked them over.

The social media-centric Generation Z is really producing a bunch of mental lightweight ninnies, especially in women. Everyone has “mental health issues” and none of them give a damn about duty, integrity or perserverance. It’s fucking gymnastics, put your big girl panties on and do what you’re expected to do before tranny athletes start filling the void.

In adversity, true champions....exit stage left?

She just withdrew from the rest of the Olympics

Why the hate? A Black woman is supposed to be like an ox or a mule but a White woman is a shrinking violet to be protected and coddled at all costs. Get the fuck outta here with that!

This woman has been through a lot, including being molested. She should be allowed to have some mental health issues and anxieties. She is a human being. Nobody trains their whole life to drop out for no reason. Cut her some slack. I'm pretty sure no one is more disappointed than she is.

r464

link?? I thought so far it's just the all around

She sucked, so she bailed out. What a loser.

R341

That is an outright lie. I saw Italian, Chinese, and British.

Stay off the drugs, R341.

I would have respected her less if she bowed out of the team final and suddenly felt well enough to do AA. You don't drop out of an Olympics competition just because you have a bad day or bad mood...it better be more serious than that. I don't imagine sure that all the blowback is going to do her mental state any more favors, though.

I honestly thought she just wasn't quite focused enough in qualifying and could fix that before the finals. I'm sad that she's just decided not to give it a go at all.

R455 Exactly. I expect to see a slow-mo "tribute," with "brave" music.

[quote]I would have respected her less if she bowed out of the team final and suddenly felt well enough to do AA.

Yes - I have no idea what is in her head, but that it would have put a bad taste in my mouth. I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes you cannot control these things and while you can feel these things building, you always think you can handle them until all of a sudden you cannot.

On a not totally rational note, she has more of my support now that the right is bashing her - Charlie Kirk of all people calling her a sociopath. These are people threatened by masks and vaccines much less flying feet on the air doing spins and hoping not to land in a way to get a back or neck injury.

[Quote] Everybody remembers Kerri Strug as a hero. Biles will always be remembered as a quitter.

Except Strug was basically tortured by her coach to vault with an injury, the injury that ended her gymnastics career. The coach cared about the medal, not the health of the gymnast. Biles took charge of her health first. Good for her

Biles is still GOAT. Fuck the haters

No she ain't no goat. she fucking sucks!

Victim and hero.

She DIDN'T EVEN TRY!!!!!

she's gonna have regrets 100%. If you tried everything and still lose, I would have more respect for you. that's all you can do as a pro, you try your best and give it your all. SHE DIDN'T EVEN TRY!!!

WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!

She’s going to be an even bigger star after this.

Yeah, she trained her whole life, why quit just like that? this is her last olympics. is this how you want to end your career?!

she is a dumb cunt!

I sure ain't gonna be supporting the brands she's been sponsored, she's a fucking quitter and loser.

WEAK!

[Quote] Yeah, she trained her whole life, why quit just like that? this is her last olympics. is this how you want to end your career?!

This is why I understand it to be something major. She’s a fierce competitor. She wouldn’t quit unless this were a huge deal

This is a great opportunity for others, she's a fucking weak cunt, I'm sure there are many younger and better trying to fill her void.

R481, she's no longer has the competitive spirit. She has made millions and won enough medals in her mind. She thinks she's Goat.

This is a huge mistake on her part. A true Champion does not act the way she does.

R482

Sweetie, you can't even string two sentences together without one of the them being a run-on. Spare me your righteous indignation.

R481

A sentence starts with a capital letter. Maybe we can start YOUR self-improvement program with that.

R483

why are they all so short and stumpy looking? do they stunt their growth somehow?

She'll be fine. She'll rebrand, give interviews and write a book focused on "mental health." Alas.

The "bravery" message is out in full force.

She is a quitter!

Yeah, everyone (other pro athletes) can support her publicly but they are probably saying something else behind closed doors.

She quit! That's a fact! That's all people are gonna remember.

she's so full of herself, she wore goat leotards, goat slides...gee, hasn't she ever heard of the idiom, self praise is no praise?

Is she religious? Now, what does the bible say about pride?

I think her head got big from all the endorsements/recognition and she didn't practice as much and it showed, so now she's using the mental issue card to pull out. She's rich, she doesn't have to jump or flip through the air no more!

R468 NBC’s primetime coverage only showed the US and ROC. It was inexcusableno other country was shown. You might be referring to their app or streaming service.

NBC has having been bad, IIRC in 96 they showed all 24 of the American routines but THREE from other countries... even IG called them out on it

[quote] NBC’s primetime coverage only showed the US and ROC

You mean the two superpowers, American and Russia? Um, how does that not make sense?

r494

agreed but I wonder if we would have seen them if they were not in the same rotation though

Of course not one person who questioned her motivations yesterday has acknowledged they misjudged her. Instead they'll just move the goalposts and call her a loser/quitter, even though she's competed for years through injuries and sexual abuse, has a bunch of gold medals and her name permanently imprinted on the sport already, and knows quite well what she can and can't handle and what she is giving up.

NBC didn't even show all the Americans last night. Poor Grace was practically invisible. But we got lots of replays of Simone's vault, so I guess they decided that was good enough.

I can't remember an Olympics that I thought NBC did good or even OK job of covering. ABC's was great, CBS' was good/OK.

I only watch swimming. If other sports are on when I switch on the TV, I will watch it. But I will definitely make it a point to watch swimming. I don't even bother to watch Track and Field anymore. all drug cheats. I'm sure there are drug cheats at other events too, that's why I don't even bother to watch them.

another big part is that they need a GOOD producer to know who to film and they haven't had one of those in a LONG time

The cunts from LSA are all over this thread.

she will say she is molested or soemthing, everything will be fine

If she's pulled out of individual I believe her that she's having some sort of problem. I respect the decision. It would have looked awful to bail on the team but go for personal glory.

r330 Yes casual sports fans do and NBC is happy to cater to them because $$$. It is unfortunate that those that are into the sport have to endure the awfulness that is NBC's Olympic programming every four years.

Coming: Oprah interview, book deal, production company, Netflix deal

This is what we reward now.

R501, She's been very vocal as a victim of Larry Nassar, dumbass.

R505 I know. She will find another perpetrator.

Nothing she gets from pulling out will have as long a shelf life as what she was poised to get for the expected wins. And she knows it. She'll be one of the several "face of mental health in sports" and her draw there will last until the next high profile athlete takes up the banner. But no one is going to do what she was expected to do at the Olympics this year for a very long long time.

She starts filming Gymkata 2: Electric Boogaloo next month.

She pulled out of the AA, it's clearly a mental block with twisting. To be honest, Simone has had an incredibly long career as a Senior elite (since 2013) and she competed at 5 World Championships and an Olympics without every having to withdraw due to injury. That's a lot of years and a lot of competitions at the highest level without major injury for a gymnast. Something had to give at some point.

Just Announced: Simone Biles World Tour! Tickets on sale now.

r225 None of that negates his achievements. You know...like how Simone will forever be the greatest of all time no matter what else she does in or out of sports. Now fuck off. I'm done with your hero worship.

[quote] A true Champion does not act the way she does.

Bitch, how the fuck would you know? What are you the true champion of?

Until someone comes along and surpasses Simone Biles achievements TO DATE, then TO DATE she is the GOAT. She was the GOAT into the olympics and she will be the GOAT coming out.

R512 fuck off to LSA, dumb nigger

She stopped training coz she has the money and medals. she got complacent. now she can't deliver what she has done in the past, so she's using mental issues and abuse as excuses...

she got lazy folks. simple as that.

she lost the mental edge coz she stopped training the way she used to.

oh, she's dating an NFL player? you know those guys have like 10 gfs right? maybe she found out he was cheating on her while she's away in Japan?

All elite, competitive athletes deal with some form of emotional and physical scars, both during their career and afterwards. Watch or read in-depth interviews of top athletes and they all say the same thing. That is why being psychologically strong (personal trait strengthened by support system) and being disciplined pay off in the end. Those who endure the challenges as well as love the discipline find that both the process and rewards justify the dedication. They determine these emotional and physical scars are worth it. They learn to develop mental and physical toughness that justify sacrificing normal life to get there. It is impossible to find one elite athlete, especially one at top of their game, who doesn’t have emotional and/ or physical scars. These are unavoidable parts of elite sports.

Competitive sports leave imprints on them. Look at how those retired basketball stars like Kevin McHale and Charles Barkley walk, they will admit to dealing with physical pain on a daily basis. Prolonged and chronic physical pain can cause stress and depression. The physical and psychological aspects of elite sports training are intertwined. Again, no escaping from it.

Many are perplexed at the current trend of athletes using attention (press, public), and pressure of expectation to jump on the mental wellness/ health bandwagon. Dealing with expected psychological stress of training and competition is not the same thing as suffering from mental illness. Yet the media/SM and corporate sponsors conflate the two distinct issues by praising the athletes as heroic for recognizing their implied mental illness. Lost opportunity for honest discussion about what mental well-being is and isn’t.

It is part of life to experience negative emotions and feelings; it’s called being human. Stress, anger, sadness, and anxiety are all parts of normal life. One can experience these things in professional or personal life, they can spring forth internally or externally due to life circumstances. Mental well-being is having or learning to have personal tools to help manage these negative aspects of life. It is NOT curating a belief that these negative aspects of life are bad/ abnormal and therefore we shouldn’t have to experience them. In doing so we are unnecessarily medicalizing life experiences/ human condition.

I blame the media narrative which is increasingly stupid and shortsighted. The narrative is not about mental health when you have athletes and celebs jumping on the mental wellness bandwagon. It is so “in” to get applauded for being brave or for highlighting mental illness when that is so far from the truth. I work in psych and what pisses me off is the media conflating mental well-being with mental health disorders. It de-emphasizes actual mental health disorders and the people living with them. Not to mention the risk of medicalizing normal human emotions and experiences. Pretty soon everybody will have a mental health disorder. I’m getting more inquiries from concerned parents, asking whether or not their kids can be seen/ given diagnosis in order to be exempt from x, y, z ( or get extra test time) due to blah blah blah. We need to teach people how to deal with negative emotions, not how to run away from things so that we don’t experience them.

I wish Biles well, she was very gracious in her praise if teammates. I take issue with knee jerk media and idiotic SM in this mental health bandwagon.

[quote]She DIDN'T EVEN TRY!!!!! she's gonna have regrets 100%. If you tried everything and still lose, I would have more respect for you. that's all you can do as a pro, you try your best and give it your all. SHE DIDN'T EVEN TRY!!! WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!

R477, did you not see her fly out of bounds on the floor exercise and on her vault landing on the first day? Did you not see her have to change her vault mid air during Team Finals because she lost her bearings in the spins, and almost not land it? She DID try. If she kept going, she would have pulled the team down and they may not even have gotten the silver.

Whether or not she has regrets later remains to be seen.

R515 Imagine if she had kids. You thought the pressure eon her was bad wait till the kids have to live up to Mommy and Daddy!

Bart Conner and wife Nadia Comaneci were on Don Lemon last night - they kept emphasizing how she could have sustained serious injury, paralysis, etc etc by being so off her game.

Bart looked pretty cute.

As some have speculated upthread, I wouldn’t be at all surprised it it was an issue with her boyfriend. Her lapses in concentration are sudden and very uncharacteristic, like she’s bothered by something that just happened. Most straight men do NOT like to be outshone by their gfs, especially when it comes to athletics. Hopefully he didn’t act out his resentment. Otherwise, next week’s Enquirer headline will read:

My Night of Passion with Simone’s Lover: Exotic Dancer Diddy von Tittie Tells All!

R519, I saw Bart Conner, Mitch Gaylord and that great team at a gymnastics expo after their Olympics. They looked just as yummy in real life as seen on TV. I think I still have Connor's autograph somewhere.

Simone's now bulletproof. Texas' deputy attorney general Aaron Reitz tweet-denounced Simone, calling her a national embarrassment. However, not long ago, Simone did a favor for evil-fucker Texas Attny Gen Ken Paxton, who has almost apologized for his deputy's tweet. BUT... Reitz can't stop tweeting about the incident. nor has Reitz deleted his tweet.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hoda Kotb says Simone Biles seems ‘relieved’ after Olympics withdrawal

Simone Biles seems “relieved” to have withdrawn from both the team and individual all-around Olympic medal events, Hoda Kotb said Wednesday after talking to the gymnast.

The “Today” co-anchor, 56, was preparing to go on air live from the team finals in Tokyo Tuesday when Biles, 24, removed herself because she wasn’t feeling mentally ready.

“I was not expecting this in a million years … but Simone actually seems kind of relieved to me,” Kotb exclusively told Page Six. “It was like a moment when you make a very big decision and you feel relief and you can exhale and you feel calm.”

The journalist was in the gym to tease the primetime gymnastics team finals when the athlete walked out following an awkward, low-scoring vault.

Moments later, it was announced that Biles would not be joining her teammates in the rest of the competition.

he decorated superstar later said she would not be competing in the individual events either.

Talking from the “Today” set in the Japanese capital, Kotb told us: “It was right as the meet was starting off that there was this huge dramatic announcement. You could really feel it in the gym. Everything went quiet, and the gym was already super, super hushed.

“I watched Simone go up and tell her teammates, ‘This is your game right now.’ I was not expecting that. It was very emotional watching her support and love up on her teammates. But she said, ‘I don’t feel that I can trust myself.'”

Co-anchor Savannah Guthrie added: “It was just stunning. We shifted to breaking news mode. It shifted our Olympics.

“Hoda does have this incredible existing relationship with Simone that goes really deep, so she got to talk to her and the other teammates right after the event.”

Guthrie, 49, was also quick to tell Biles’ critics to pipe down, adding: “People take their potshots on social media, sitting on their couch. But it’s not easy to be here. … It’s our privilege to get to watch these athletes; they don’t owe it to us.

“Simone is doing her best, and it’s a pleasure to watch her greatness.”

Kotb noted that “gymnastics is not like other sports,” explaining, “A slight error is not about finishing an arm’s length behind in the pool or missing a shot in tennis. You can end up hurt with a spinal cord injury if you flinch. Simone made the best decision for her.”

Biles drew a line between the trauma she endured from imprisoned ex-Team USA doctor Larry Nassar’s sexual abuse and her decision to pull out of both the team and individual all-around medal events for the first time when she retweeted a statement of support Wednesday from gymnast-turned-fitness trainer Andrea Orris.

“We are talking about the same girl who was molested by her team doctor throughout her entire childhood and teenage years,” Orris wrote.

Kotb echoed to us: “We all know what Simone has been through, and part of the reason she left the Olympics was the weight of all of that.”

Not surprised she withdrew from individual competition; if she had decided to compete, the media pressure would have been like flies on shit.

She had to withdraw from the Individual. If she didn’t it would have looked bad.

I do believe something happened with the boyfriend. Her lack of focus is sudden. As somebody said upthread, she went through 7 years of elite gymnastics without a major injury. Her focus and skills were superhuman. I do believe this is mental and I believe it has to do with her boyfriend. Mark my words he cheated or she suspects he did.

I am selfish she withdrew and I am pissed. I think she’s will withdraw completely.

She placed undue pressure and expectations upon herself. GOAT talk and leotards, interviews proclaiming herself to be unbeatable even if she falls. Also saying yesterday that she wasn’t having fun, that she’s competing for other people whereas she wants to do it for herself. Is that part of her psychological breakdown?

Who are these others that she’s referring to? Her corporate sponsors, fans, coaches, teammates, the entire country? It’s taken her until now to realize it?

If this was Simone at her first Olympics she would not have forfeited a chance for gold medals. But Simone is now at a different stage in life, where gymnastics takes a backseat to boyfriend, post-gymnastics career, and having fun. When the motivation isn’t there (aside from commercial deal$), it would be difficult to conjure motivation to become great again.

Gymnastics gold medalists have a shelf life. Is Nastya Liukin even famous anymore? Gymnastics is going the way of figure skating in terms of tv popularity. No longer as enjoyable to watch when the artistic component is vastly diminished (figure skating) or done away altogether (gymnastics). Now it’s stocky midgets tumbling, which while impressive to watch, doesn’t engage/ endear with audiences in the same way. It’s jumps overvalued in figure skating do that it’s basically jumping with some figure skating skills in between. With gymnastics it’s tumbling and acrobatics without any attention to artistry. One might as well watch the tumbling and acrobatics championships, I believe there is such a thing.

[quote]Now it’s stocky midgets tumbling

Where have you been for 30 years?

R527 it’s way worse now

2019 Tumbling championship, some of these ladies are insane with their skills.

Umm….excuse you R527, Lilia Podkopayeva was known to be a complete gymnast with beautiful lines, upper body carriage, and pointed toes. In fact she was known to be a stickler about the latter, often adding ballet steps to her floor routines.

Uh no.. R530. FIG hyped her ass as being "balletic," when they chose her to be Olympic Champion in 1995. She was nothing more than a squat, little, midget who turned out to be a Prostitute like all Ukranian Gymnasts become.

R473, Strug was not "tortured," by her coach to do the vault. Kerri was thirsty as fuck and was going to do that vault no matter what. She also wasn't that heroic because there's not an athlete in that building, that wouldn't have done the exact same thing. The second vault also didn't "end" her career. She wasn't going to have a career post 96, and it was the first vault that actually ended her competition. She was never going to be able to compete AA or Events after she landed that first one.

Also, if we want to get into whose fault it was... it was Mary Lee Tracy's fault for not setting Moceanu and Strug's vaults correctly and Jaycie can get some of the blame too for not passing the message along that she fucked up the spring boards and needed to fix them.

The Ritalin Queen, Miss Simone Biles "SPEED KILLS BITCH"

R513, LOL

BRING OUT THOSE CLAWS KLAN GRANNY!

Just understand that I’m better looking than you, make more money than you went to a better school than you, reside in a more upscale neighborhood than you, and just all around have a better life than you. And please stew over the fact that at least some of it, I got thanks to affirmative action.

So that’s Mister Dumb Nigger to you. Know and recognize your superiors please. Haha

Good for Simone now lets move on.

Maybe the special emoji was the straw that broke the GOAT'S back.

R531 okay , Gina “I wouldn’t know balletic if it hits me in the ass” Gogean. You’d think competing against me would’ve rubbed off some grace on you but guess your gymnastics reputation for lacking artistry was hard to shed.

^^^ Forgot to sign off

Oh GOD not the “it isn’t popular now being they don’t POINT THEIR TOES like *I* like” bullshit. Nobody fucking CARES aside from OLD queens about their toe points and ballet moves. OMG they actually are MORE athletic the HORROR!

Figure staking isn’t as big now because the Americans suck. Gymnastics isn’t as popular because, unlike pre-2012, they hardly even show them now during the Olympics. Somebody mentioned 1996 being all American gymnasts but that wasn’t the case. I fondly remember seeing all of Nemov’s routines. I remember watching a ton of the other females from other countries. What is missing now? They don’t even show all the USA gymnasts, especially the men! When gymnastics was on before 2012, the entire primetime was almost exclusively devoted to it. Now, it seems a distant second to swimming because they want to show every MFing heat. It isn’t made to be the marquee even it once was. Once it was special now it gets about as much coverage as beach volleyball and cycling. It’s bullshit.

The one great thing out of this is the Shannon haters are in a tizzy. She will still be the most decorated US female gymnast. That is likely to never be taken from her.

So now people are trying to move the goalposts again and claim, without a shred of evidence, that it's "the boyfriend."

Yeah, sure. Simone Biles with a 10 year history of competing as if she's made of bionic parts, who has competed through fractures, kidney stones, sexual abuse, publicly coming out as a victim of said abuse, who has been a model of a rock solid laser-focused competitor and who performs very dangerous skills with eerie perfection. THAT Simone is just going wobbly because of her boyfriend. For fucks sake, the stupidity and sexism is mind-boggling.

Nevermind there's a far simpler and more realistic explanation: She's got a bad case of the twisties. Due to stress and the cumulative effects of years of competing at her level, she isn't able to get a hold of it. Her routines are far too dangerous to risk attempting them if she's struggling. End of story.

It wasn't fun for her anymore. This Olympics was supposed to be for herself. It hurt her heart that she was doing it for other people (like her country, her team, the history books . . .)

And what's more, no one asked her if she was OK.

Jesus fucking C. No wonder the Chinese are going to take over eventually.

Yeah WTF happened to them showing more gymnastics? They zipped through the both team finals so fast they were done before the 2nd hour was up. That has never happened before and their coverage of 2016 in Rio was terrible. I never thought it would get this bad. Even with a smaller team, NBC couldn’t be arsed to show every US gymnast. I’m curious to see what they show tonight with the men’s all around. They’ll show 4 events, tops, and show the our two, the Russians, the Japanese and maybe a Chinese gymnast. And I bet they hurry through it.

Is this the mindset of her generation, that it’s okay not to do your job and your most important responsibilities if you are not in the right headspace at the moment?

I don't get it either. Gymnastics have always been among the highest rated coverage. They used to drag it out so they were showing the most anticipated events/gymnasts at 10 or even 11pm. So what's the rationale for drastically reducing coverage, of even the Americans?

R544 I'm sorry, which generation values putting your life at risk by doing something incredibly dangerous if mentally you are not prepared/capable? Because that whole generation is fucking stupid.

Meanwhile people who actually know something about this are supporting her:

R544 Judging how fucked up the Greatest Generation, Boomers, and older Gen X(born 1964-1969) are I wouldn’t knock it. What generation seemed to produce serial killers like crazy?

R545 I agree. It is starkly noticeable how much less they are showing gymnastics. They are shoving in so many other sports and diminishing their most popular. It has gotten worse with every Olympics. I was shocked how fast they showed them and how few gymnasts they showed.

Sad that gymnastics is so full of disgusting dance that someone can be fooled by Lilia's, "toe point," and believe it was actual, beautiful, ballet!

Lol.

She's got the yips

To those asking about he diminished coverage of gymnastics, the sport itself is also to blame. Look at what they've done to the format. By dwindling down the number of members of the, "team," and formatting it so that two teams go on the same equipment at once, the competition itself has gone from needing three hours to cover to less than an hour.

Bring back FULL teams. Six routines or bust!

You know Kerri at R548 wanted to end that, United States of Amerikkka.

R553 Then how to explain why they didn’t even show every routine from the Americans? They didn’t even show every routine from the Russians in the same rotation. So you think having more members to show would make for more coverage? They don’t show them all now. There is no fucking reason for the shitty coverage.

R540 Shannon would not be the most decorated under the current Fig rules. She would not have made Barcelona. She is most decorated with an asterisk, we all know who the best really is.

FIG has ruined the sport. Bunch of idiots.

R556 Give it a fucking rest.

Is Miller a deplorable or is it just Strug?

R553 those changes should make complete coverage easier--in fact, I remember some of the criticism of the changes being that they seemed to be catering to casual Olympics/Worlds audiences.

I mean it's stupid to say, "under the CURRENT FIG, Shannon isn't most decorated..."

That's like saying.. under the current FIG, Nadia doesn't get to be the first gymnast to claim a Perfect 10 in Olympic competition because she wouldn't be eligible!

You could use the same logic and say, using the old rules, Simone could never have as many titles as she has because the Worlds weren't held every year and she would have had to compete on an old floor and vault, which would prohibit her from doing the skills she does and she also would have had to split up her training competing compulsories so she'd never accomplish as much!

R560 those changes *SHOULD make it easier, but they don't because of how quickly it goes, it gave NBC an excuse to cut down the coverage. It doesn't make sense, and you'd think you'd at least get more coverage, but that's not how NBC Operates.

R559, the Deplorables from the Mag 7 are:

Strug, Moceanu, Borden, Phelps

R456 Literally my least favorites, fuck those stupid cunts !

Whatever the reason, my thoughts are with her. She's an amazing athlete, and an inspiration to many...particularly young black women & other young women of color.

I sadly think Miller is a deplorable. She’s married to the former Duvall county republican chief. She was previously married to a big loud TX republican. I believe he is a dentist.

Are we sure Moceanu is a deplorable?

Moceanu is definitely a Deplorable.

R566 I think so as well. You gotta be deplorable to marry one, right? Dominique surprises me did she forget she is an immigrant and is not white?

R541 I agree. Additionally if she had competed and done poorly, it could have cost her team and teammates medals and she would never have heard the end of her failure at the Olympics. I also listened to an interview she did a few months ago and she said it took her a year to learn her floor routine because she doesn't have the greatest air awareness and she was always losing herself in the air. She relies more on repetition and body memory vs air awareness. It likely scared her when her body didn't remember what to do during that vault and she likely just felt really relieved to have landed on her feet.

Mental grit, strength, stoicism isn't valued the same way it once was in society, the idea that you push through at all costs for your country just isn't something the younger generation believe in. Maybe a good thing.

NBC has truly fucked up its gymnastics coverage. In Rio it was endless swimming and this year it is endless swimming with a dash of gymnastics. It is infuriating. We don’t need to see swimming heats for semis unless it is in daytime coverage.

Greg Louganis cracked his skull open on the diving board and finished with a gold. And he had to do the same dive again that he hit his head on.

That’s a GOAT.

Unsure of Miller then because she's friends with Betty Okino, who is NOT a Deplorable, and has liked many of Betty's non-Deplorable posts.

Moceanu is not an immigrant and is white.

R570 Maybe the shitastic ratings will finally make NBC change their shitty coverage.

Don't forget that Moceanu was raised in Texas.

R569 She did not say that. Simone has the best air awareness of anybody I have ever seen. It has been commented on a lot.

R572 Can you give examples? Did she like something obvious like, “President Biden is the greatest” or something like that?

R574 I doubt it. They are convinced if they show more sports it is better when we want to see gymnastics. They’re up swimming ass and have been for awhile since Phelps.

R575 So was I and I am not deplorable. I know the Karolyis are huge deplorables.

Send those deplorable Gypos back to Romania.

[quote] It's ridiculous how she's just expected to carry Team USA and win everything

She is tired of [italic]wiping their asses[/italic] for them!

R578 Biles is giving the others a chance to shine and they fucking blew it. Especially that Chiles girl talk about blowing it.

Shannon has liked Betty's LGBTQ, Black Lives Matter, Vaccine and Mask, and Obama posts.

But again, if she's married to a Republican, who knows?

As far as Moceanu... she was raised in Texas and look at her parents. She's also extremely gullible and doesn't think for herself. She's a Deplorable.

This notion that Biles "Carries" the USA team is really actually false. The US Team still dominated without her at the 2017 Worlds.

Team USA did NOT need Biles to win Team Gold. They could have fielded several teams that would have swept the Team medals. The problem with THIS team is how they were selected. Tom Forrester fucked up and created a team built around Biles.

R579 Chiles did great on bars and beam where she wasn’t even supposed to compete. She only blew it on floor. The Russians fell twice on beam yet still won.

R580 Thanks! Interesting esp BLM, vaccine and masks, and Obama! Maybe she changed.

R581 So true. And with a larger team, the Americans dominate. The selections were botched. Even at the time Tim and Nastia were a little surprised.

R281 Give it a fucking rest. No ONE of notice competed in the 2017 worlds that is why Morgan Fucking hurd breezed to the all around title!!!

r581

1. There was no team competition in 17

2. Dominated in 2017?? That was one of the weakest fields in years and 2 americans won medals, 1 gold, and 3 silvers.... I'm not sure that is domination

Waiting for more proof that Moceanu is MAGA other than "she was raised in Texas."

Somebody please start another thread before this one runs out. TIA

There's already one up.

R587 Thanks!

Ah yes, and Morgan still managed to be able to Medal in 2018.

Other than Simone, only 3 other American gymnasts have won individual medals this quad, Morgan, Jade and Suni

Should Tom have put Morgan on the team, anyway? I wonder if she would have even been ready.

I'm glad we get to experience all the latest right wing culture wars memes as they are breaking!!

Morgan didn’t even make it to be an alternate.

R593, pretty sure that was because Morgan wasn't granted a petition to trials.

You do you R539, just because you like watching stocky gymnasts who don’t pay any attention to artistic side of gymnastics, don’t assume others want the same.

New thread in case one of you bitches missed it.

R595 You should watch Rhythmic gymnastics sounds like that is for YOU.

R595 Nobody cares, dear

R598/ R597 Sounds like you care a lot because you can’t stand someone not agreeing with you about the state of gymnastics. Why do you care whether or not I or anyone else offers own opinions about the sport, or how watchable it is? Because you feel you’re right and you’re the overriding expert? Don’t bother answering, it’s a rhetorical question.

New thread for worshipping the Most Decorated US Olympic Gymnast of all time... Shannon Miller!