Ben Barnes, Part XVI

So BB I think Doug is way cooler than you. He is drunkenly dancing and singing with your girl and is all over her insta. She has clearly moved on from your boring British, weird ways. Oh where is the album? Or is that another lie?

In true stalkerish fashion, and due to the absence of the IG Sleuth, I’ve screen-recorded who he’s following so that I can definitively see in future who’s dropped or added. It’s annoying me that I don’t know who’s been dropped!! (Don’t ask me why I care but I do for some inexplicable reason).

R1 but is Doug gay? Unfortunately I don’t think he’s enough to take JH off BB’s hands. She’s probably going to make a stop at his house as soon as she gets off the plane and drag him out on an athleasure walk so she can remind LA he’s still her little lion cub 🦁

R2 lol their little social media quirks are chaotic as hell it’s like they want someone to do this! 😂 They could just follow an unspecified large number of random accounts like normal people and then no one would be paying attention to the churn but nope

If we get another pap walk from JH and BB I say the trolls should come out full force. Make him scared again. He is clearly not getting it. Maybe even get the fangirls involved.

I want to know what happened to Chike. His account disappeared a couple days ago. However, between Ben, Rob and Jack, nobody's follow counts dropped. Ben's went down yesterday, the others didn't change other than Rob's increasing yesterday. Weren't they all mutual follows previously? Did that change? I've checked other posts, like below as an example, where he should be tagged, but no longer is. Which makes me think it wasn't a simple name change.

I'm confused?

Did he block you? I can still see his account and its public because I’m not following it. Linked below

R6 he’s also still tagged in that post you linked. Not sure why you wouldn’t be seeing it unless you are blocked :/

R7 R8 Ummm why? Literally all I did was view his account the other day. No comments, no follows, no likes, no nothing. Just viewed.

I'm still confused?

R9 what do you see when you open the link in R7? It worked for me too. If the link doesn’t work at all it might be some glitch, but if it goes to the account and the account says no post and is blank I think that means you are blocked

R5 I truly couldn’t stomach another pap walk of those two. JH is so fakily flirty in that ice cream pap it made me heave. Yeah bring out the big guns!

R6 R7 Yes Chike’s definitely still around - his account suddenly disappeared months & months ago but then reappeared a while back, but I had to refollow. Actually that could be a reason that BB’s following count went down one, it could be that someone deactivated their account rather than him unfollowing someone.

R9 Close IG then go back in and try again, it’s played some tricks on me before.

Yeah verified accounts are required to be public so I’m pretty sure they would have to do something like deactivate or block to kick someone out of their following, but it’s definitely possible Ben just lost a follow from another deactivated account as well.

R10 I see the following..

"Sorry, this page isn't available. The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed. Go back to Instagram."

It's not the standard "you've been blocked" message. So still confused?

R13 What happens if you just search for chike1 in the Search screen?

R14 IG doesn't find/show the account. Shows only similar looking names.

The chosenatyourownspeed is Freddy. Chike deactivated. Ben wasn’t in Italy. I personally think JH sees everything you guys say and trolls yous. Ben seems to want to avoid it more then add fuel to the fire.

R16 *Ben has entered the chat* but seriously Chike did not deactivate lol, Ben still follows him, and he even posted an story today as evidenced in this screenshot. You must have some weird geographical restriction that limits access to certain profiles or you are blocked sorry

R16 what a sad sad life she must lead if she’s on an epic vacation to France and Italy and decides to spend her time scrolling through literally hundreds of messages on datalounge to find a way to subtly troll the like 10 max bored people that probably post on here regularly. And if that really is Freddy then why don’t Amita and Jessie and Archie follow him? Is there trouble in the Grishaverse? Please do tell more oh wise one

R17 Alright, I'm old and don't use IG for anything other than viewing other things. I've never posted and no one follows me. Is there a way to simply see accounts that have viewed your page? Cause I'll repeat, I didn't follow him, all I did was click on and view his page. Period. Literally, if it was purposeful, how the hell did he even find and single out my account to randomly block me? Still confused..

Chike is very much active and available.

I suggest simply making a new Instagram account to find Chike if you really want to. It’s either a glitch or you are blocked. The cynical side of me thinks you may even know Chike personally and got blocked for a reason a couple days ago and didn’t know it and came on here to figure it out and don’t want him to see this and think someone he knows is posting here because he’s able to view his recently blocked accounts. Even if you are blocked you should still be able to see his account by typing in the FULL chike1 into search, you just wouldn’t see any content. People can see who viewed their story but they can’t see who simply visited their profile (luckily lol)

So glad Ben Barnes, Part XVI has turned into a “where’s Chike” and Instagram technical support chat. Really hilariously thrilling shit right here

R22 ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?

Seriously. 'The Mob" these days.

Chike has given data lounge more discussion points in the last few hours than Ben has all week. The fan girls are going to start calling for a proof of life video soon if Ben doesn’t throw them another bone and sing something to them again ASAP. It’s genuinely amazing one of the most boring (but obviously attractive) celebs in the world has accumulated 16 threads of 600 comments each for doing almost nothing but acting like a Republican during a pandemic and thinking with his dick for a few too many months over a tiny little demon possessed blonde. As long as he doesn’t move on the Tomi Lahren next he still has a path to redemption IMO.

Could this Deuxmoi B/C lister pregnancy rumor be about JH and her niece’s viral tiktok? Was Benny B the sperm doner? Was she on her last hurrah before she starts showing? Did we see her drinking while she was traveling? Sorry Chike we need to reprioritize

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Looks like her new pal is straight. Funny how those daily mail pics look so different from the other pap shots. Maybe if BB was transparent and genuine we wouldn’t have to speculate about his boring ass life and have threads about his follower count. Trust broken because he is a dick, I think so.

A just-in-time pap article with a new mystery man plus well placed and clearly described alcoholic beverages next to JH to get ahead of the pregnancy rumors. Classic B/C list PR stunts.

I just think he's a genuinely bad person. All that time he's been pretending to be this sweet guy, but apparently he does all his best acting when there's no script.

R26 they wrote so much about her “perfect body” and figure that as she wrote this article herself! LOL There’s absolutely nothing to praise duh. And Benny B missed his allegedly Fan Art Friday and Sunday piano posts… too busy greeting his wHOe back???

R26 Many more positive comments on this article than usual - investing in that social media minion paying off, JH!

R30 To be fair, he doesn’t post those every week (perish the thought - regular posting!) and also I just can’t bring myself to believe they’re still a thing.

I stand with R22 and R27.

Here's an old JJ bit about Dougie and Derek in which Doug is described as "an entrepreneur." Mafia?

I’m pretty sure Doug is the brother of this asshole. Seems like the type of family the Houghs would be friends with

R33 HAHAHAA. Yeah, ambiguous “import-export business” = Mafia. At least it used to mean that back in Don Corleone's day.

That family is also linked to a wholesale jewelry company in NYC called Dasan Inc. I think it’s safe to say Doug has far more money than Ben, if JH is even interested in either of them anymore. She just has a bunch of Harry Burns candidates in her life I guess

JH is a social climber, she’d never settle for a B-list (on his best days) Netflix actor. She got some press from that relationship and i think moved on lol. You’d think near-quadragenarian Bin Bons would know that if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.

R36 Hahah love that!

His beloved Harry Burns is not rooted in the sparkles and rainbows that our perfect, never does anything wrong Benny wishes it was.

She is saying yummy to Doug, oh they are totally fucking! All her stories have him tagged, are from his private insta, when has he not been with her the last week. BB silent because he got rejected and even if that was six months ago he is still single, such a loser!

R38 This quote from that article is actually very relevant to Ben: “When Harry Met Sally is ultimately the story of Harry’s arc: The question it asks, in the end, is not whether women and men can be friends, but whether a guy who hates almost everyone can open himself up to a single someone. That he proves able to evolve suggests an absolution. Sally, at one point, frustrated with Harry’s antics, calls him ‘a human affront to all women.’ She concludes, though, with this: ‘You make it impossible for me to hate you.’”

Bens new bio: a human affront to all woman.

R38 Very interesting indeed! Maybe he should change that private IG username.

I think this may have been mentioned before but see point 4 in particular on this article.....

R42 Forgot ... point 11 too!!!

R42 R43 .....actually just about all of them!!! Peter Pan personified, I give you... Ben Barnes!!

R40 Well obviously you've overlooked one very key thing here. There's just no possible way Ben could hate people! As every fangirl knows, he's the kindest, sweetest, most caring human being that's ever lived! He's a professional actor, there's no way he could ever hate people! He would need to fool and manipulate everyone into thinking he was so kind all the time! How could he possibly do that?!?

I mean sure, when slip ups lead to us seeing into his private life, he comes across as a very different person from the persona he puts out publicly. And sure, he says ALLLLLL the time how much time he spends watching Netflix at home. Oh and also that he calculates how early he has to leave a party in order to watch several episodes of those Netflix shows. Oh but he's soooooo good at social media because of how much he loves interacting with people! Because he's always so kind and he loves his fans! I mean it's not like it's beneficial to him financially to act to make his fans believe he loves and appreciates them So. Much. through a carefully curated public persona.

Nope. It's impossible that Ben ever hates people. He's far too good and loving a person to be capable of that. Ben cares about other people, it's just who he is in his heart.

The “hates almost everyone” part is a bit strong, but if I were him I would probably mistrust almost everyone by now, especially any post-fame new people, because you would never know who is genuinely interested or who just wants to use you for social climbing and a quick thrill before spilling your perfectly brewed British tea to the ravenous internet and paparazzi. A friend and another source have confirmed over the last few months that Deuxmoi is purposefully withholding BB related info even about relatively benign but common Deuxmoi type content (like sightings or potential projects) that have been submitted/confirmed by multiple people, plus at least one thing that’s a little more salacious (something other than the Raya account they shared or anything JH related). It’s kinda annoyingly impressive that he has not only maintained a relatively unproblematic reputation after almost 2 decades in the industry, but also has people in the dregs of the gossip industry that are willing to protect him. That’s the power of BB I guess

R45 R46 His scarily pretty face and catwalk silhouette inspire trust and loyalty. It’s why pretty people rule the world 😉

R46 Oh please - give us the details if you have them!!! Especially the salacious one!!! Unbelievable that they’re shielding him - why??!!

She wouldn’t tell me details especially about the salacious one because she’s worried the secondary/technical way she confirmed this might lead back to the wrong people. She said it was juicy but not anything career ending, so she’s not sure why Deuxmoi is withholding this stuff. I think whoever runs that account has said they sometimes don’t post stuff about people they like, but also withholding minor stuff like brunch sightings seems odd. Maybe some PR people are powerful enough to put a gag order on certain people or topics with Deuxmoi.

R49 Apply the thumbscrews!!! Can’t she even drop a hint re the salacious ones! We’re gasping for tea over here LMAO!!!

Do we know who his publicist is? I would doubt they’re powerful enough to stop DeuxMoi from posting tbh, but DM definitely has her favs (for example you’ll never see anything bad or juicy about EmRata on DM). DeuxMoi is based in NY and kissed ses to hang out with B/C list celebs (like Hailey Bieber) so it’s not impossible that they know each other from when BB was shooting the Punisher and now doesn’t want to post about him.

R46 I’m sorry I don’t believe any of that. If BB has such a powerful team and knows the important people enough to get stories buried, than why has his career plateaued? His costars in Punisher and other projects are doing giant movies, and he has taken a side step since westworld. Deuxmoi does not fact check, there has been wrong information posted there before. I think he is a boring old man, who has pretty privilege, and I don’t believe there is anything racy about him. I call bullshit on all of it.

R52 It could be a career plateau or it could be some major announcements being held until studios stop clutching their pearls over pandemic delays and box office numbers and get through their schedule backlog or it even could be the clusterfuck that is the FTC scrutiny over a major tech company buying a major studio. Time will tell. At least 50% of Deuxmoi seems to be bullshit and there have even been rumors it’s been taken over by a team of moderators and the original NYC fashion girl is no longer involved, so makes it even more suspicious that they would be hiding anything on BB. I don’t follow it that religiously but I’ve never seen anything on there that sounds related to him

I tried DM for about a week, and it quickly became obvious that half of it was unverified fanfic and the other half was run like a high school lunch table with gossip (or not) about the same tedious clique over and over.

The new mods of the Deuxmoi subreddit have also been adding this disclaimer vaguely banning certain discussions but I haven’t been paying attention enough to see what caused it. It does seem to kinda defeat the purpose of a gossip site if discussions are limited to only people who aren’t as popular as the highly “stanned” people (whatever that means) and people who no one has ever heard of. Maybe the concept of Deuxmoi is circling the drain or they are under legal scrutiny

R55 Obviously can't be sure, but I read that in the opposite way I think. They ban Stan culture. Super fans are not allowed. So especially when uber popular celebs are involved, just stick to specifically discussing what's posted to avoid those stanning super fans defensively turning the conversation into a complete shit hole like they always do.

We all know how super fans protect and take care of their obsessions, don't we.

So wait can we get some kind of hint on the salacious gossip? Is this like has a secret kid level or like doesn't tip well level? Give us something! Is it ... He's a bad neighbor with all that loud singing? Or like owns a local sex club?

R46 R51 Remind me, is Ben friends with Just Jared? You know, the other guy that posts about celebrity sightings and what not all the time? But why though, does he seem like the kind of person Ben would normally have as a friend?

Or maybe, does Ben purposefully seek out and try to uber charm and befriend gossip site people with his pretty privilege in order to assure that his name stays out of those sites. Well except when he goes to premieres of course, those you can post about Jared, that helps his career. Anything else not approved of by BB??? *crickets*

Truly, I wonder what his sweet, innocent, perfectly good and lovingly angelic self has to do to these people in order to elicit such blind obedience and loyalty.

Of course, you do realize what kind of people religiously go to these lengths don't you. Someone with something to hide. An actually angelic person wouldn't care about their random mentions online. A guilty person would seek to ensure they're never mentioned.

Though, it's not like you could get ahead of the game by making people believe you're too angelic for the guilty gossip to be real. . . right?

He used to be. At least, they were frequently at the same parties and having their pic taken together. This one was labeled "Jared Eng's Birthday Bash"

Memorial Day pool party, 2014. These pics take me back so hard to the "BB is gay, Gay, GAY" days. *sigh*

R60 MAN look at how young Ben used to look.. Truly, those were the good old days.

Memories, like the corners of my mind....misty watercolor meeeemmmmmmorrieeeeees...

Which begs the question: whatever happened to these types of pics? Did Ben stop having friends? Did he REALLY stop going out ever to stay in and binge garbage tv? Did he lose all of his LA friends because he asked them to stop tagging him? WTF?

R62 Or did the sweet, pretty boy groom them into naturally treating him this way?

Of course he did delete all the contacts from his private IG *before* it was rediscovered publicly..

R63 He’s probably got another one......

I think that accidental following of the dancing/sexy girls IG on his verified account (no doubt he wanted to follow on his private!) spooked him into being more careful with IG, i’m sure he has/will make a new private account but it might me harder to find it. His IG count is still at 249, i wonder who will take the coveted 250th place.

R65 Haha yes.... naughty IG, imagine adding that soft porn account to Benny’s following count without his knowledge!!! Cos you realise it *wasn’t* Ben, of course!!!

I speculated that he was drunk, high or both at the time and we all know he occasionally mixes up his public and private account. He definitely needs to be more careful.

And for sure, any new private account will be Marty, Harry, Billy, Womble and sunset free.

So many friends of friends teasing gossip and then nothing comes of it. The truth will always come out eventually. Over the last year we have learned BB is not always presenting an honest portrayal of who he is. He is playing the game just like the rest of them. People don’t really change. He also has his weird fangirls saying he never does anything wrong so that echo chamber must be a mind fuck. I will be laugh my ass off if the juicy gossip is he is a gay! Only 25 million threads and years of us saying it.

What is she shilling now with these new shots on the French Riviera? Or does she normally travel with this team while on vacation? Also, is Ben still friends with Darren Criss? Cause The Ho is singling him out to show off now.

R58 When is she is going to get th fuck off my continent?!

Well she was tagging up a storm on her next stories too. I really really just wish she’d get her Covid travelling ass back home. How long has she been over here now - 2,3 weeks?!! 2 or 3 weeks too long!

I really hope BB can see her for what she really is. Those stories I think show exactly who JH is. The fake lips and the makeup does not make all that work she had done look natural at all. You can see the filler and the botox and her forehead is a different shape. If BB is the social climber asshole we speculated him to be, than maybe he has turned a new leaf. This z list Cannes party would have been perfect for that sort of bullshit. The more I think about paris he definitely didn’t go, as she has been in Italy for like three weeks now. Just flaunting her money and her yummy adventures with the dude and her fake ass life. She is not Jlo, I’ve met Jlo, Jlo has class and works her ass off. JH is not even close. Yeah she tagged everyone at that party, maybe throw it into BB’s face how special she is. When really homegirl you look insecure and alone. Where did Doug go? He couldn’t go to this party with you? Also I know she is not paying $1000 for her wardrobe, so who is she fucking to be on all these yachts for weeks on end. She seems like the type to not pay her share, just use it for glam and pics. Pay in clout. Honestly can the new girl BB has been singing love songs about just surface already. Sick of talking about this basic, white, rich woman who brings nothing to the table.

R68 BB follows DC on Twitter and IG but he doesn’t follow him back. There are a couple of tweets where BB replied on a DC tweet (no like, no reply) and a ‘5 perfect films, 5 friends’ from Apr 2020 where Jimmi Simpson nom’d BB, who in turn nom’d DC as one of his 5 friends. DC broke the chain and didn’t like/reply. So I’m guessing BB maybe crossed paths with DC for 5 mins at some ceremony or suchlike. Another ND/SW situation.

R70 According to one of the other female’s posts on JH stories it was a party for the Naked Heart Foundation, a charity for Russian needy children. Yes I’m totally sick of JH too and her fake ass (and everything else) lifestyle. I’m not that sure BB’s got someone new tbh, I think he’s serenading his lost youth. Either that or he’s just stirring up speculation.

While charities for children are usually a noble cause (unless they are super corrupt) I can’t help but think JH is there simply to look like she is dressed up with a glam squad in the mere vicinity of Cannes Film Fest just so it appears like she might have actually been cool enough to go for that instead of just being in France for an unrelated reason at the same time. This trip must have been insanely expensive and it doesn’t look like she’s been working so I doubt she’s charging it to one of her companies as a business expense, but this is the psycho who somehow weaseled her way into Davos so she must be fluent in freeloading off the mega rich

R71 Well as I remember it, Ben didn't bother to go to the punisher S2 wrap party in 2018, even with Jason Moore calling him out publicly for it, and instead rushed back to LA first chance he got. (I believed at the time that he was rushing back to Peyton, cause he was literally leaving for England in a week afterwards for Golddigger. OF COURSE it could also be because Ben hates people and can't even be bothered to celebrate with them at their big party that included him!) Then the picture below shows up. The next picture from the same night in this man's feed says he went to Darren's new piano bar and even got to meet him. Not guaranteed, but certainly likely that he met Ben at the piano bar too. So also likely that Ben rushed home, and immediately rushed out to celebrate Darren's new business. (Wait, he does support his friend's businesses? So just not his grifter extraordinaire of a girlfriend then. Classy?!?) So it seems like they were friends back then.

Also seems like this is just yet another blue check mark that no longer publicly associates with Ben Barnes. Strange that. . .

R73 Well spotted! Yes that could well be the connection. If they did meet even briefly that night seems it didn’t make that much of an impression on Criss as didn’t follow him back on social media?

Oh yeah - Peyton List - another short side note on his Messin’ Around playlist!

R74 No, didn't mean to imply that's when they met. I believe I remember (but not sure this time, vague memory) they already were friends, which is why Ben rushed to see his new digs. I think I even remember (again not sure) Ben also followed Darren's partner Lea something back then too. However, I don't remember at all if either followed Ben back back then unfortunately.

R72 that trip doesn’t necessarily could be this expensive if you’re not paying for it. There are billion of ways for a girl to get anywhere for free If you know what I mean. And she looks exactly that type of a girl.

R75 Thanks for clarifying - well as of 2019/2020 Criss is blanking him it seems!!!

Going back to the Westworld thing for a moment, one of his recent follows is Lisa Joy Nolan (co-creator of WW). Looks like she created her account on 3 May. He liked every one of her 6 posts during May and then eight of her 22 posts during June & July. That’s a lot (for him!) - ‘hello, remember me?’ perhaps?!

R76 Speaking of, I'm still waiting for to hear about the reason for Ben's Really Gay Yacht Trip of 2016.

Going through Ben's old candids, the random house party type of shots really begin to disappear around 2017/18. After that, most of the pictures are from cons or he's out with castmates.

R79 Long filming gigs away from LA from The Punisher onwards to beginning of 2020? I can imagine that in Hollyweird you’re only as popular as the last party you went to, so perhaps with his pretty face missing from the party circuit for long periods of time, he dropped off the invites list? Maybe why hardly any blue tick interaction too, especially being submerged in Budapest for 5 months or so.

R79 Remind me Syl.. when did Ben first "make it big" by starring in Westworld and Punisher?

Asking for put upon friends.

He went from D to B 2017-2018 when he went from Westworld to Punisher.

What if he met someone during punisher in 2017 and from late 2017 to 2020 they were together which is why he kind of disappeared from the party scene in LA. There is really just project stuff from him during that time and some touristy or con stuff. Then the first pap walk was April 2020 with JH so assuming this random normie thing definitely wasn’t a thing early 2020. She could have been someone who is not pictured with him, but was around. I’m making this all up of course. Or even a dude. He could be secretly gay, we really don’t know. I don’t think the Peyton thing was anything. I think they were just friends. Those pap pics seem innocent. The Raya was for appearance, so no one would go looking for this girl or guy. There is so much we don’t know.

Awwwww.. Jack just unfollowed The HoughMonster today. So sad to see such trouble in paradise.

R84 Wish his brother would follow suit!!!!!

R83 I hear you but don’t forget he was on and off Raya during those years so... who knows as you say!?

R84 finally some good news!

R85 Nah. That boy is literally addicted to the constant thirst trap super sexy pics she posts of herself. He will never remove those from his feed.

He likes inspiration, remember?

Longtime lurker, finally signed up so I may weigh in.

—Jack unfollowing JH is huge. HUGE! Best indicator yet that they’re done. —My best guess is that The Benny doesn’t make much. He lives a lean, staff-free life, with lowkey furnishings and goes to a normal person gym. home is not posh, inside or out. He gets all the last-minute castings for gigs that film on non-local and often far away locations. Has he ever filmed anything in LA? Pretty sure the answer is a hard no, aside from some studio stuff in SoCal for Westworld, which also filmed quite a bit in Utah. He really hasn’t been in a position to settle down & make baby Bennies. His only income in 2020 was likely audiobooks, ja? He’s been 100% dedicated to his career & trying to get ahead, thus the revolving door of disposable fucktoys prior to JH. —Circling back to JH: She’s essentially a C-list celeb/social media influencer, who gets free clothes & trips in exchange for promoting stuff. Or selling herself. He’s classy in comparison, which as has been detailed hilariously & ad nauseum, isn’t saying much. —The Leo who sucked in bed must surely be our 8/20 Leo, BB.

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Oh! Not sure if y’all noted this already (tho I’m sure you have — you impressively leave no stone unturned!) but BB and Tamsin no longer follow one another, after years of doing so post-break-up. Anyone know/remember when this came about?

R90 Fraid I didn't notice when that happened, but welcome to this merry band of persistent nausea that once used to enjoy Ben!

R89 Welcome fellowish newbie! I refuse to believe Ben sucks in bed lol but I have heard that to be true about the other Leo from a more credible, non-JH source. Unlike BB, it’s a numbers game for him and he doesn’t have to worry about his career being negatively impacted by his sex life.

Regarding his lack of appearances in candid party photos on the stalker fan website and due to my supreme procrastination skills ahead of a real-life job responsibility due tomorrow, I took the liberty of making this list. It’s the estimated filming months for his recent projects that would have taken him partly if not mostly away from LA and this does not include press tours, auditions, etc. Feel free to make any corrections/additions, I only really became aware of Ben again in the last year so I don’t have the wealth of background knowledge that some of you have so kindly contributed here. Based on this relatively busy schedule and focus on the turn in his career, plus the typical reduced partying that happens to many in their late 30s, I think the lack of party appearances is more about career/life logistics and less about any friends shunning him. I hope all this shit with JH was just a boredom induced quarantini mistake that Ben has finally left behind because she’s clearly a manipulative psycho.

Sons of Liberty June 2014- August 2014 Westworld season 1: July 2015- April 2016 Punisher Season 1: October 2016- April 2017 Westworld season 2: July 2017 - January 2018 Punisher Season 2: February 2018- August 2018 Gold Digger: August 2018- December 2018 Shadow & Bone: September 2019- February 2020

R90 I’ve only really paid attention to his follows/followers for the last 18 months and I don’t recall seeing TE on there during that period, so I think they’ve probably not followed each other for some time. We know BB likes to keep up appearances and follow most of his exes: TE was one, RR was another (on his private account), am not sure PL actually has an official IG for him to follow, Seyfried’s still on his follows but I don’t think that was ever more than a studio publationship, and I don’t think he’s ever followed Meganne Young?... but this is evidence that eventually - after a non-confrontational period of time - he will unfollow. Wish I knew who unfollowed who first, just to be nosy! I’m betting TE. Josh probably asked her why she was still following BB.

Also, I confess I’ve forgotten when Jack started following the Ho, wasn’t there a bit of follow/unfollow there well before Montanagate? I could be wrong of course as it’s hard to keep up.

[quote] His only income in 2020 was likely audiobooks, ja?

Don't forget residuals. "Dorian Gray" has just been added to Amazon Prime video!

R89 When and how did he afford buying his house? Was that right after Narnia or something? It may be modest by Hollywood standards but Hollywood Hills still isn’t cheap especially when you only get to live in it less than half the year. He clearly comes from a relatively well off family though so he’s probably never been a struggling and starved actor

R90 R93 I’ve just had a quick scroll through some of TE’s posts - she opened her account in 2014 (I think she & BB were together from some time in 2010 through to some time in 2012?) so well after they spilt. Don’t think he’s ever liked any of her posts from what I can tell, although Chiké has been liking her stuff on and off over the past 3 years or so and his last like was 19 May this year.

R93 Both Jack and Rob followed The Ho in November last year, first clue I got something was rotten in Denmark. Then both of them unfollowed February 5th, I believe the same day Ben deactivated his private IG if I remember correctly (you can go back check the previous threads, it was noted as it happened). Rob never refollowed The Ho, but Jack at one point did. Then a few hours ago, he unfollowed again.

Also just a curious note, Jack also followed Nina up until. . . a couple months ago was it? But it was definitely long after Ben unfollowed her. Honestly made me wonder if Jack was just hate following the both of them, and finally just couldn't fucking take it anymore. (wise bro..)

Who’s Nina? And: Do we know if Ben gets residuals—was/is he big enough to command that? And have we confirmed that he owns vs rents?

He must’ve lost his shit when Meganne posted pics of them together, then personal pics of him alone. She seemed keen on exploiting their association, which he never acknowledged.

R57 Well I guess I have inadvertently joined the BB protection squad now because I got details on the gossip but only in exchange for my silence so I won’t be posting it here. The silence isn’t really due to the nature of the info but more due to the offline drama it’s caused (which does not involve Ben) and due to working in an adjacent industry that’s becoming increasingly less adjacent this year, so I’m excluding myself from this narrative. But while I’m adjusting to this new phase I will say that the people who have followed or participated in these threads for a while will probably be pretty disappointed with this gossip. Not only is he definitely not gay, the name/abbreviation of the main person in (and maybe one of the anonymous submitters of?) this story has made occasional appearances on these threads, even the only few recent ones I’ve scrolled through after rediscovering Ben, despite most of these events taking place in and around 2016 during a relatively busy time for Ben. So maybe some of it was pieced together from social media here (I’m not reading that far back to find out) but there’s definitely more details to this story. I fully understand some of you will probably think this is bullshit and there’s nothing I can or will be able to do to prove otherwise. Maybe it will come out of Deuxmoi eventually. You all have clearly proven your sleuthing skills

Nina Dobrev, The Ho's best friend who also went to Montana, and also who Ben *obsessively* liked every damn pic she posted last year. But she's pretty so that's expected.

But what do you mean by "personal pics of him alone?"

(and for whoever referenced above that he didn't follow Meganne, yes he did, from the private account)

Re: Nina: Oh, duh. Of course. My brain blanked.

Re: Meganne, if I remember correctly, there was an IG post of just him that was clearly taken by her.

R100 While I fully respect protecting sources and therefore needing to be vague, I'm afraid that was kinda really hard to follow. Can you try to clarify/correct my potential understanding?

Firstly are you referencing one, or several gossipy stories?

Can you specify (more?) why you think we would be disappointed if/when we heard the story?

The gossipy story(ies) solely took place in 2016.

The gossipy story(ies) all reference one person, who is/was associated with Ben (in 2016?).

We know who this person is and have often referenced him/her by name.

You wonder if some parts of the gossipy story(ies) were sourced from DL itself.

Wait, there's definitely more details to what story?

Hope those questions don't violate your agreement, but they'll hopefully help translate your previous post for us!

Assumptions/deductions I’m making are that 1) this adjacent industry is music, and it’s becoming less adjacent b/c BB is working on an album, looking to crossover; 2) the 2016 business involves RR, and that the experience adversely impacted her.

Sidenote: Can’t figure out how to tag OP, I’m embarrassed to confess!

If by "tag" you mean include the post you're referencing, just type in an R together with the number of said post, like R104 to reference yours with your question.

And both music and modeling are crossing over with acting these days. And Rayana does all three of them. So does Ben. Well at least, he wants to do music, but nobody will publish it for him.

Wait why does 2016 RR gossip have anything to do with now? I’m so confused. Is he her baby daddy? Why should we care. I thought she has been in a serious relationship for a while now. Weren’t they definitely not a thing come like mid 2017? All ancient stuff. Why are things that happened five years ago relevant? Also RR is first a model then a bad amateur singer. So I don’t get how sharing a story about gossip from years ago would affect her. Her career as a singer has not taken off and her music is not great. Like are BB and her fucking right now? That would be something. This whole drop speculation like you have facts but then say no I’m gonna be silent, why share at all? Looks like old, stale tea to me.

I have not personally read what was submitted to DM so I don’t want this to turn into a game of telephone where the potential “facts” get even more skewed by retelling. R104 #2 is correct. By potentially “disappointed” in this gossip it meant many people here might think this news is anticlimactic because they already had assumed a connection between BB & RR and many were also hoping he was still gay lol. But this story seemed more detailed than someone just sourcing a few details from DL and resubmitting to DM for fun. R104 on #1 this was more referring to the increasingly blurred lines between the entertainment and tech industries, but perhaps this story is being brought up again because of the shift towards the music industry. That’s just speculation though

R106 lol the aforementioned expected disappointment already showing

RR told everyone she was fucking BB that’s how we know. We don’t need some gossip site to confirm it, she confirmed it. Yeah him being in his mid thirties dating a 22 year old while hanging out with Chris Delia all at the same time. Yeah that is what is disappointing. Shows who he really is, now that all the truth has come to light. I still hope he is no longer that type of a trash human being. I hope RR didn’t get hurt in that. Men taking advantage of young woman and using their power to only benefit them. So gross.

[R107] Gotcha, thanks for confirming #2. I’ve always assumed there were multiple sides to any of the stories with his dalliances/relationships. But re: this one, I will say this: Due to RR’s youth and the disparity in their levels of professional achievement, I always suspected a little bit of a Ryan Adams situation went on here. I’m likely projecting, but in my mind, I suspected he took advantage of a young, naive & ambitious kid who was in awe of him, and perhaps made promises to assist that he never followed through with, or that he left her in the lurch in some way, shape, or form. Admittedly I could be totally offbase.

Understood R107. Thanks for clarifying.

Honestly though, anyone who was paying attention back then probably knows more than this gossip story anyway! Here look! It's all of them having brunch when Rayana came to visit that October! Everyone knows they were a couple for most of 2016. Regardless of how much Ben insisted on hiding it. Was it because she was only 22? Does anyone still believe he has scruples about who he dates?!?

R109 Ah, we clearly drew the same conclusions re: the RR-BB sitch.

I think he drops like a hot potato any women who namedrop him. He has no problem exploiting women, but it’s a fuckinghellno if they dare exploit him. The JH trainwreck is so fascinating in part simply because the playa is getting played.

R111 wait so is the person with the watch Ben and he later untagged himself but this is how people knew about them? Admittedly I was not paying attention in 2016 so this is all news to me, but yeah not sure why it would be coming up now except that people are just always asking for tea on him on Deuxmoi/Reddit now that he is having another renaissance

Just had a look at her music videos and two of them are fairly disturbing/sad.

I get that the guy wants to keep aspects of his life private, but he’s secretive, not private. The extremes to which he goes to maintain the secrecy are abnormal. And as has been said before, one is secretive when one has something to hide, not when one wants privacy. Some transparency would actually neutralize, defuse the intense scrutiny. Right now, he has just a bunch of armchair PIs stirring the pot. But lawd help him If he’s ever big enough where the paps care. His brain (and career?) will implode.

R110 Well Rayana herself partly confirmed some of that back then. I can't give you the exact quotes because she erased all the posts from back then, but she alluded to a bad break up between them. I remember words like, "even when you think you've actually found a good guy.." and something to the effect of they disappoint you. Her best friend Jaime consoled? her by saying there weren't any guys good enough for them because they were special unicorns (so it wasn't her fault??).

And probably the biggest clue. Ben unfollowed her after they broke up. Eventually they reconciled months later and refollowed (also following her dog's IG account at the time), but immediately after the break up? When does Ben ever unfollow his exes? Nah, there was definitely bad blood there back then.

R113 Yes, Ben is in the blue shirt with the watch and Rayana is next to him in the orangey and ivory jacket. Again, she erased the posts where she was in that outfit and she and Jasmine walked around Williamsburg later that day, but I promise you it's the same. And I also assure you, Ben was *NEVER* tagged in that photo. There is no way in Hell he would have allowed Jasmine to do that. You can even see Katzz's comment saying she forgot to tag him. (I remember katzz's repeated commentary re: his secret relationship quite fondly.. she was great..)

R116 I think what some of us are suggesting goes beyond bad break-up — not that bad break-ups in & of themselves aren’t reason enough for bad blood. But what we’re suggesting is closer to #metoo than garden variety douchebaggery.

He’s definitely a control freak with emotional avoidance issues. That gets reinforced again & again. So JH is some shitshow schadenfreude.

R115 yeah the armchair PIs stirring the pot is just unnecessarily skewing this story that shouldn’t have even been brought up in the first place. But just to clarify, this was more of a RR story than a BB story which is probably why it wasn’t posted because no one knows who the fuck RR is except for people on DL apparently. And the details in the recent story don’t actually match the narrative that’s being painted in this thread above. RR was actually involved with Dominic Howard (an even older guy than Ben) both before and after and according to recent accounts also during her short stint with Ben and it was actually Ben who got shafted in this situation with RR trying to get sympathy when she had a falling out with both guys for a while before ultimately making up with D. It only worked for a while because she also wanted to keep it quiet due to her ongoing relationship with Dominic, she was definitely not the victim in all this. The fact that this is even coming up now just makes it seem like either RR trying to remain relevant or a fangirl stirring the pot for no reason.

R118 To be fair, we didn’t re-open the RR topic ;-) but once done, we did explore it. The pot stirring mentioned refers to all things BB, not merely RR-related. If he got shafted, then I’m not sure why RR asserted that BB didn’t turn out to be the good guy she’d thought him to be. I’m hearing mixed messages here.

If the whole thing was afterall just a case of garden variety douchebaggery from one or both of them, then I for one am glad to hear it. I certainly don’t wish a #metoo scenario for either of them. Remember, we want BB to be the guy he presents himself as, who we all once believed him to be.

R117 I would wonder about "how bad" it was too except that they did become friends again after a while, which makes me think it didn't stretch into MeToo territory as most people understand that "term." Something that falls to that level shouldn't be able to be swept into bygones that quickly. I never got the impression he took *that* kind of advantage, only that it was a bad ending.

Though he is obviously a control freak. He is absolutely religious about EVERYONE around him keeping his women private.

R120 It’s not unusual to be on the ropes for awhile with a guy who mistreats you. Sometimes you try to make it work for a bit longer than you should, walk away a little later than you should. So circling the drain for a little while hardly absolves BB. If they mistreated each other, then… we can call this one a draw. NEXT!

Remember one of the original comments bringing this up before they had the details even said it was described as “juicy but not career ruining” gossip. Believe me I’m not Cindy fucking Dakin coming to defend Ben for any minor hint of negativity, but did this really have to take the dark turn that it did? This clearly turned out to be a stupid story that never should have been brought up in the first replace because her relationship with DH is easily verifiable as crossing this timeline since they weren’t as secretive. but a false #metoo accusation can absolutely ruin a career and that’s not a conclusion that should be jumped to, especially considering the basic known facts and good reputation of the person in question and an unverified but likely story that Ben was cheated on. It’s old news

As you may recall, I said veering toward. There is a broad range of bad behavior that fell under that hashtag, and I’m not seeking to debate the validity of which should or shouldn’t. For me, any hint of abuse of power differential fell within that and still does. We were skeeved out by his dating a 22YO for a reason, and it’s not because we didn’t think she’d catch all of his pop cultural references. Furthermore, we were appalled for a reason that he kept company with the likes of Chris Delia. Let’s not now pretend that we haven’t long raised some ethical concerns here.

R122 Obviously I don't know, but the only thing I'll add is that Ben was a more frequent poster back then, and I don't remember one hint of him acting "upset" or otherwise differently in any way after they broke up. Like he has after other suspected relationships ended. Nope, after Rayana, I remember him always being his normal self.

Which, if he was the one to unceremoniously end it to leave her upset in the lurch. . . fits. But I don't at all think MeToo. That doesn't fit.

IMO he was more active then because 2016 was a busy year and a big turning point in his career with the airing of Westworld and the filming of the Punisher and being in a new city for half the year. Just because he (allegedly) got cheated on doesn’t mean he was necessarily severely depressed over it, he could have been like fuck it, fuck her I’m too busy to care. You can’t pick up those reactions from occasional Instagram activities. I think I remember in a recent S&B interview he said he listened to a lot of muse while preparing for the darkling role. I do wonder now if that was because he just enjoys Muse or if it had some moody and motivating dark vibes for that role lol

In any event, BB’s latest post & story clearly would like to refocus attention awaaaaay from his sex life, so I’ll oblige him. I’m curious if he’ll squeeze in any other acting work before S&B resumes shooting in what we’ve surmised is that fall.

For what it’s worth, my take on the RR/BB situation is....

They hook up while she’s split up from D

She’s just a fucktoy for BB

She and D then go into on/off for a while during this time

BB finds out and even altho he’s not into anything long term with her himself, male ego demands he ghosts her (and unfollows)

She - probably on a break from D again - goes all ‘woe is me’ over this for a while, remember she’s got an ego too so how very dare he

She gets back with D, and her & BB are pals (only pals this time) again

Probably not as cut and dried as that, but there you go. Here endeth the first lesson and I for one don’t want to hear anything more about her!

Ben when he wakes up and realizes the only reprieve from the JH discord on DL is some 5 years old drama he expected to never hear about again lol. If he thought Jack’s unfollow would finally satisfy DL for a bit he probably thought wrong.

Can I just say again how much I hate his hair in S&B. It doesn't go with the whole OTT heavy fantasy edgelord look at all. Even the weird mullet thing from the flashback was more suitable.

ANYway....

[quote] I get that the guy wants to keep aspects of his life private, but he’s secretive, not private.

THIS RIGHT THE FUCK HERE. And let's talk a moment about the ludicrousness of his stated "When I find someone I want to marry, I'll let you know" position. How is that supposed to work, Benny? You want to date someone for...years? In ABSOLUTE secrecy, never giving anyone a glimpse of this mystical woman. Then out of nowhere you'll spring an engagement announcement on us? Or will you not even do that? Keep the whole engagement secret and not let us know until the wedding? And this woman who you'll be treating like a dirty shameful secret is going to want to MARRY you?

I get it. I get it now. It's like a fairy tale plot. Princess and the Pea or Cinderella or Patient Griselda or some shit. Subject a girl to a whole lot of mind games and pointless suffering, and only if she willingly and happily goes along with it will she prove herself worthy to get Prince fucking Caspian in the end.

Good luck, Ben! You shoulda been gay.

R101 While we’re trawling the BB Ex archives.... thanks for clarifying that he’d followed MY on his private IG. The sneaky little devil. Wish I’d known that at the time, could have gone snooping for likes etc and if/when he unfollowed. Yet again, as with most of his known relationships, it doesn’t appear to have been anything serious if indeed it was anything at all to begin with.

I wonder if he looks at TE and Josh and their little rug rats and thinks of what could have been? That was by all appearances quite a serious thing between them, going by length of the relationship. I always wondered why they split... he just wouldn’t commit or she cheated on him with Josh? I think she met Josh before she got with BB so maybe something rekindled there! And if BB wouldn’t commit.... buhbye BB.

R130 I’ve always wondered how Ben feels about Josh and TE too. The timing certainly lines up for TE jumping right from Ben to Josh but who knows if they were even together enough for it to be considered cheating. That seemed to be the last girl he was willing to do the more coy celebrity act with of being seen together but never confirming anything publicly, rather than just avoiding or hiding relationships all together. Josh has talked a lot about how glad he was to leave Hollywood and how proud he is of his wife and kids and enjoying how the roles available to him have gotten more interesting as he has gotten older and left behind the Pearl Harbor heartthrob imagine. It’s kinda like reading about an alternate reality of Ben Barnes if he had made some different decisions or moved back to London.

Ok, so sex life it is. Lol.

Seems like we’re detecting a pattern of women allegedly cheating on and/or leaving BB for a more emotionally available man. I will say this: doesn’t sound like his cock is made of gold and his tongue made of silver, ‘cuz if they were, keeping a relationship on the downlow wouldn’t be the biggest hardship. As a bf, the guy must be pretty lacking in a few areas not to compensate for a mere privacy quirk.

R132 I think you’re right. I think it might be a combination of totally ott paranoia (some of them probably thought, what? you ain’t that famous, man), dumping them if he thinks they’re posting ‘dangerous’ pix or getting the least bit clingy (hello Billy Russo), and an unreasonable sulky/ghosting reaction if the women are hanging out or seen with other guys. And complete lack of commitment on his part.

Of course, we are assuming he’s screwing these various women along the way, but what if Mama’s counselling from an early age messed up his head? He could actually be keeping it firmly zipped up in his pants (frightened of dick pics or little Benji baby claims) all this time and that’s why the ladies move on. LMFAO could you imagine if that was the case???!!!

BTW I still don’t buy the ‘family man’ claims, no matter how long he’s been making them. He’s that Peter Pan man child person- doesn’t want the responsibility or to interrupt his ‘hedonistic’ lifestyle.....

R133 I doubt highly that the guy’s been a monk, but he’s clearly a commitment-phobe with no desire to be obligated to anyone. On the one hand, it’s understandable why he eschews the messiness of attachments and wants to own his time when he is frequently uprooted for large stretches of time, yet on the other hand… he’s pushing 40, and other steadily working actors clearly figure it out. (Think Matthew Goode, or Tamsin/Josh.) And it’s not an all-or-nothing proposition. One can have an actual relationship without being married with a gaggle of kidlets.

In terms of BB love life we really know nothing. Everything can be manipulated on social media. RR can play the victim when she wasn’t, they could have just been friends and she was in NY, he had the same social media behavior with Alicia Sanz during punisher and no one said they were together, although I would not doubt it. We can look at patterns and it is clear he has commitment issues. Seems to be some selfishness there. Nobody wants to be with a selfish partner. Perhaps some maturing as well. You can have it all and I cannot imagine there was no one good enough for him. Hopefully he can be more generous in the future, with his fans and the people he loves. Being a secret I’m sure is not fun. I bet a relationship with a genuine woman would make him more popular, people love couples.

Do we know or surmise who BB’s ladyfriend(s) were during the Gold Digger and S&B shoots? He seems to have one (and a playlist) for each project ;-)

R135 yeah this might as well be a giant Ben Barnes fanfic story because we know nothing. He could be like Costa Ronin who had a very lowkey relationship with a normal girl who didn’t live in LA and didn’t really become public until they were engaged. Ben doesn’t come across as emotionally unavailable or selfish in his interviews and if anything I’ve thought he might have the problem that he’s TOO nice and emotionally available, which can be off putting and an automatic ticket to the friend zone, but maybe that’s just my taste 😄

R137 also he is an actor. I know people who on the outside seemed kind and supportive and like amazing, genuine humans and than come to find out behind closed doors they were cruel and abusive. It is very easy to fool people and Hollywood people are great at that. With a camera in front of you of course everyone is their best self. JH is actually masterful at that sort of manipulation so the fact that he aligned himself with her for so long makes me think they have something in common. Also he is rich, famous, good looking I doubt he is ever being friendzoned. He just clearly has commitment issues. He is old enough that if he wanted the family life is could have it.

They just happened to meet in real life and she's already invited over to his house?

Dude.

(btw, what the hell is all over his beard?!?)

Ha he totally begged her to do that. If he didn’t have over a million followers would her team even have let her? Totally orchestrated, another lie from BB. I saw she has been in LA hanging out with Dove Cameron and that lot. Lizzy sounded perfect, BB a bit pitchy. When is he not?

Also love how he put she picked that song. So he can say JH with the new man and his brother unfollowing her has nothing to do with this song choice. 🙄

R139 Little Lizzy turned up earlier than expected and he had a razor rush incident? Looks like he took a chunk out of it. I think it was all his idea, yes! The fangirls are less exuberant this time, I guess they’re also not too happy about her turning up at his pad. All the others have been on zoom lmao.

R141 PS wow she’s 21... I thought she looked about 15!!!

Holy scheisse. He is telegraphing loud & clear that he’s ramblin’ on without the Ho. Wow. BB, you are one passive-aggressive mofo. What’s next? Fleetwood Mac’s Secondhand News, or Never Goin’ Back Again?

There are very frequent fan girl requests for him to cover a Taylor Swift song especially her most recent stuff, but I seem to remember an interview where he was asked about his favorite song of hers and he seemed to not be able to remember the names of any and seemed kinda visibly annoyed she was brought up? Has anyone else gotten the impression he doesn’t like her or was I imagining that? Maybe it’s just due to the drama between tswift and his friend Camilla Belle. I’ll post the interview if I find it

R144 Yeah I think I remember that, he got asked on one of the lives about it and he fluffed a bit and didn’t answer!

So all the gossip is about Rayana? Boo. R100 are you the one who said his friend got screwed over by BB a couple threads ago? If not, I really wanna know who that was about.

R144 I think it was this interview around min 25, but it’s not actually as harsh as I remembered it so it’s probably imagined. The question about his relationship status just makes me embarrassed for everyone involved though. I think any interviewer that does a quick Google of him prior to the interview would know it’s pointless to ask, so most don’t bother

R146 no not the same. Screwed over how? I want to know more too!

Is this taken in BB’s pad? I can’t decide.

R149 I think so. We used to be able to see beamed ceilings in the piano videos before he changed the angle. And that boot collection surely looks like BB's.

I am supposed to know who this girl is?

R149 I don’t think so. She has pics in the same room from June 23 with another guy. His ceilings are much higher and meet over his living room and those look like a roof over a partial outside area

R149 If it is, I’m noting a change of outfits from the piano. 🤔 I agree that the boots look like BB’s.

R150 This is his singing partner from today, Lizzy McAlpine. Or her ‘new BFF’ as she described him in her post. Bet the fangirls nearly freaked if they misread that as BF hahaha

So if JH is celebrating her birthday in Cannes with Nina we can definitely say with his brother unfollowing her and clearly BB is not flying out there this whole JH and BB situationship is officially dead!

He is just in LA hanging out with a 21 year old and people who are 20 years younger than him? Winning my dude! Sounds like he is definitely fitting into the mold of weird hollywood old dude.

R151 You’re right, definitely not BB’s (R150 R152), thanks for that. Referred to as Phillip’s new place. I’m reattaching the link as it wouldn’t work for me for some reason!

R151 Oh good. I'd hate to think that Ben is that much of a slob, on top of his many other failings!

R153 Never, ever heard of her before today. But hey, I'm nine years older than Ben!

It definitely feels like the end of the JH era. She hasn’t even liked his new song or darkling costume post yet which makes me think whatever software or minion she had instructed to like things quickly from an account that doesn’t follow anyone has been given different instructions now. I wonder when and where he plans on celebrating his 40th since it seems like half of Hollywood is working or on epic vacations and he is just in LA. It looks like that girl Lizzy has a lot of music producer friends, so maybe he’s just trying to network and charm the music industry

I mean BB will never be a rockstar. That dream is not gonna happen for him. I know that is what he has always wanted to be, but it’s like Johnny Depp and his band. They all seemed old and sad. If the album of original songs was good he would have never said it was coming out soon, because there would be a marketing team and late night show performances lined up. It would have never made that comment of not doing any covers to then two weeks later do another cover. I doubt he has any of that. I think he is trying to be cool, hope he isn’t trying to have sex with any of those 20 somethings. Wish he would find an age appropriate woman and settle. This chasing relevancy isn’t cool, it’s so sad.

R152 My first thought exactly. But do these boots look like any other men’s boots? And her change of outfit could be major proof it’s not his pad. Considering all his privacy issues, I doubt he would agree on posting any pictures outside of his house.

R159 Covered in R151 and R155 - not BB’s place.

R152 R159 It’s Philip’s house those are probably Philips’s boots as well. I don’t get any kind of romantic vibes from them I think it was just a collab. Maybe he’s just trying to make an album of collabs. If he does ever actually come out with an album it will probably just be something that was enjoyable to make and listen to that involved partnering with a bunch of different people like he did for the soundtrack music he’s on, but not meant to take him on a new career path. He has said he’s not a writer starting from a blank page and not good enough to attract and anchor a full band

I volunteer as tribute to be his birthday fucktoy! I’m an 8-hour drive away, in SF

I predict he flies home to his family in London for his 40th.

R162

R164 If you can do things to me that make sing, Benny B, then sing for you I shall. I can also accompany you on the guitar (6- or 12-string), cook for you, and, well, make you sing. 😂

R163 I think you might be right, I doubt his parents would risk going to LA? (altho Jack probably would). As discussed he doesn’t seem to party much in LA any more so I could really see him returning to the bosom of his family for the milestone birthday party.

There are still travel restrictions from the UK to US so they wouldn’t be able to come here

R167 Yeah, he’d definitely travel to the UK - still ok at the moment with negative covid tests.

That last line in his post, “magnetized to another” thoughts? Is he magnetized to someone? The song I would take is love not returned and therefore lost so just confused by that last part. Maybe there is actually someone in the picture romantically for BB.

T169 I noticed that, and thought it sounded like a private something he probably used to say with someone special to him. Like private live language/pillow talk. Or a line from a song/book/film/poem.

Just going to leave this here. And try my damnedest not to laugh my goddamn ass off. Jesus fucking Christ. Of course considering the flippantly maskless morons his housemate regularly infected himself with, Rob was at extreme risk of contracting and passing on the virus. So thank God one of them thought with his brain instead of his dick.

R171 just looked rob up and he really hasn’t done much. Yeah good for him for seeing how his actions affect other people and making positive changes, I hope BB is learning that lesson.

R169 R170 I think that’s just one of BB’s new agey/guru little quotes, I’m not reading anything too much into it. Don’t forget that he commented on LM’s post of their duet that she’s a ‘magical musical unicorn’. Lmao.

R141 No, he always has those little "bald spots" in his beard. I mean all that white. . . powder that's so reflective in the sunlight? To the right of his mouth? Am I the only one seeing this? Did she bring powdered donuts?

R144 If you happen to remember the INFAMOUS Jackie & Ryan interview where he told the very gay interviewer that he wouldn't let a stranger into his mouth. . . he reacts with utter disgust when Katie starts singing Shake It Off. No, I'm thinking Ben definitely isn't a Taylor Swift fan. But I will give him points for covering it up serviceably enough in the interview at R147.

R154 No you see, as R152 pointed out, she has on a different outfit today! So the singing video was definitely filmed earlier! Ben only posted it today to throw us off the scent from him traveling anywhere!! *evil laugh*

Of course it's technically a good thing this was filmed earlier considering LA mandated everyone regardless of vaccination status to wear masks indoors today. And singing was early on one of the WORST ways to spread Covid. Not to mention they ain't social distanced..

R169 Or maybe he's been watching too much rightwing news and thinks the vaccine turns you into magneto? Of course now I'm going to have to shout out the nerds and make an inverse cube joke. Careful Ben, you double the original distance between you and your lady love, and that magnetic attraction drops to 1/8th its original strength. Triple the distance? You're down to 1/27th the strength. Of course, maybe that's why Ben keeps getting cheated on. . . he leaves for months at a time to film. Ouch.

Or. . . what if the secret message is to the posters here?!? (Whaaaaaaaaaattttttt??) Ben's never going to be able to make us love him again. But at least he hopes we're healing and have moved on to a newer MUCH BETTER celebrity crush. How sweet. Of course what actually would have worked in his favor in the goddamned beginning was if he actually owned what he did and apologized. That's all it would have taken for me. Instead he tried to cover everything up after it was all over the place. So shockingly, no. There's no healing and I ain't leaving him alone any fucking time soon.

R174 (re R141).... toast crumbs or bits of banana pancake? We know BB’s partial to both haha.

R173 Especially after the conversation here yesterday, the fact that Darren Criss commented on Lizzy's post of the song, and even after she mentioned that you had to go to Ben's account to watch the whole thing. . .

Am I just missing a comment from Darren on Ben's post?

Is it wrong how humorous I find this?

R176 Wow, that comment from Darren Criss on Lizzie’s account was rude & trolly. Now I’m feeling very protective of BB. Darren Criss is lower down the food chain from BB, so what soapbox is he on?

R177 Nuh uh!! Darren gets to hang out and sing duets with Juliane Hough in Cannes, France for her birthday!!!!!! He's clearly way above the food chain!!!

Obvi.

I'm just wondering if he made her sign an nda before he gave her his address or if he had to drive her with a good over her head until she was inside...I mean, what if she accidentally spilled the beans and his fangirls find out his address????

*with a good over her head.... damnit autocorrect.

R179 I’m going with the hood option.

R180 It got you a second time but we know what you meant! Happens to me all the time but then it doesn’t correct what you actually want it to. Fickle af.

Just scrolled through the comments on that LM post to see what the DC comment was - that took a lot of thought Darren - and predictably saw numerous screeching “why’s he looking at her like that” and “OMG I thought that said BF” examples (told you so!)

Watch your back Lizzy, the BB Fanpack have your scent now!!!

[quote]and predictably saw numerous screeching “why’s he looking at her like that” and “OMG I thought that said BF” examples (told you so!) Watch your back Lizzy, the BB Fanpack have your scent now!!!

Vomit.

But at least it's perfectly appropriate for children to be fans on her page.

R183 I saw a few comments dissing him due to his age. The winner said something like “dad energy,” and I thought OUCH.

R184 Ohhh I missed those during my speed-scrolling. Ouch indeed!!!

It's hysterical that Ben's fans are perplexed that he doesn't like Taylor Swift. BB is an older guy who has his parents' musical tastes. This has been known forever. Also, he loves old-school soul music and TS is...the opposite of that.

Hiya everyone first time poster long time reader of DL and CDan uses to be a lover of BB and only found out about montanagate after the 2nd BB and JH pap walk and the adapted dumpster fire pic which was still on his profile although I was a prev reader of BB threads here and ventured back hear to see what was going on....and holy shit what an eye opener! Between you guys and Cdan hands down the best celeb goss, sleuthing, info gathering and trolling (although I dont condone some chat bits) overall its been the entertainment of lockdown life for me. Well im bringing this to the table from a recent cdan reveal about JH which explains alot of recent events and weird social media of JH and BB and the now depressing songs BB's about.

Oh and BB everyone told ya so! you were used by ur so called best friend to be a lockdown pit stop to something bigger and better and richer. God knows what you were thinking you could change JH!! You watched how it went down with brooks so no sympathy for you! You have a poor judgement of friends and no self worth to put your self in that position. Maybe its karma from your covid travelling: acknowledge it, learn from it and be a better person for you and your loved ones sake!

Lilly welcome! Are we not surprised? Between the fake hair and the fake face, those lips are not good, and the thirst trap photoshopped pics of course she is looking for some rich dude. She has been in Europe for like 20 days now, almost a month. She has been on a yacht somewhere for most of her trip. How sad BB actually thought he had a chance. Brooks was worth what 30 million and that wasn’t enough so no doubt she is looking for a billionaire. There are 500 billionaires in the world. Benny B has like what 3-5 million if that. That is poor to most rich people. Hope he is learning all the lessons. From the Covid traveling, to his friend groups, to just how not to treat people. Sizing people up based on who they know or how much money they have doesn’t necessarily mean you surround yourself with good people. Maybe that is asshole behavior. Karma, I’m sure what JH has done to him is exactly how he has treated some woman in his life. All comes back around.

R187 Wow that’s a good one! I’m too lazy to scroll through cdan - anything else we might’ve missed?

And yeah, BB - everyone told you so!!! It’s depressing if he’s pining for her, I truly hope not.

Let’s see what surfaces on her birthday from the ex Loyal Puppy! Too much to hope for a private/public post confusion?? Lmao.

How is JH an A lister? I think only she would be delusional enough to describe herself as that.

R190 They think BB’s an A-lister...

Ha she is C lister reality personality/influencer who does have some money I’ll give her that. Oh she totally thinks she is part of that world. Just because you fucked Leo doesn’t make you important. There are hundreds of models no one knows about who have done the same thing. You are not special.

BB is B not even close to A-lister status. No one knows who BB is and A-listers are known world wide. Talking oscar winners and 20 million a movie. When has BB ever won an award?

Thanks for the welcome everyone :) Im a daily poster on cdan have been for years and enjoy the overlap of goss about JH, BB and many other stupid celebs doing stupid things. Yes cdan celeb ratings are off it depends on awards and main role castings, which Ben has consistently done but due to his inept social media issues/OCD privacy settings its basically kept him back from having more prominent star status and general awareness from the average joe public.

He is his own worst enemy, he really shouldnt be in control of his social media (late night liking of porn hub material of young girls)...stop being stingy BB and hire a professional!!!! ps not JH's tho. There haven't been that many of JH and BB cdan goss other than the stuff revealed earlier in the year of them both with BB being described as being used...I wonder who is giving CDan the goss tho?

It must be a close but concerned friend of BB and JH giving BB the lowkey warning signals of JH and her tricksy ways of grifting/blackface shenanigans! Chike or Rob maybe?! I still cant believe BB got with a racist!!!!..I can imagine his friends taking a back seat to that choice. Interesting that he no longer posted frequent BLM stuff in stories, posts etc. after they had their 2nd pap walk/Montanagate until very recently, another reason to keep their fling on the down low.

I think BB and JH were together in Paris and it was their last mutual agreed fuckin around trip before they went on their different paths....to hell!! Ha!

This is the only other thing that I’m aware of related to Ben on CDAN, but maybe there are a lot more that haven’t been revealed yet. I don’t frequent the site.

Maybe Ben started out with her in Paris (hence the coy social media and that heart/lion thing) then they had a falling out, he stopped in London on the way home to LA, and she went on her way to find a yacht husband and told the bachelorette she was even willing to take her hunt to national TV just to get it out there that she’s looking. Not that quality billionaires would even pay attention to that. Once she had her taste of the mega rich lifestyle at Davos she probably had her list of targets then, but the pesky pandemic got in the way of her networking so she settled for the emotional support of Benny B to heal. There was also a blind about Brooks and JH that pretty much confirmed JH cheated and I wouldn’t be surprised if that happened multiple times but Davos was probably her playground.

I feel like JH would break up with someone by saying she’s healing, growing, and ready to be magnetized to someone in a way that BB wasn’t able to offer her. I think the last line of BB’s last caption was meant for a specific person, not just a wellwish to all his followers

R193 I hear you, it’s definitely a possibility they were in Paris together. I did think at one point that he was with her, but now I’m not 100% convinced it was him.

I’m thinking it’s entirely possible she bumped into someone in LA or on her many covid travels who caught her eye. Someone who’s maybe European, rich and camera shy like BB. One of the Eastern European oligarchs? Since when does that attention whore move off the continental US - where all her pap contacts are - unless there’s a very rich prize at the end of the rainbow?

Or could possibly have met this person at the Family Film Awards she performed at/attended. Me and the IG Sleuth always felt that *something* happened that night, cos she went into total radio silence on social media the next day for several days. Could she have been flirting like hell with some other guy and BB went ballistic? Male ego and all that. Just wish someone would spill all the tea about that whole train wreck of a ‘relationship’!!!

“So much more that that…”

R196 Didn’t see that one! “So much more than that”... WTF?! Damn these vague hint-dropping blinds!

Was the crying in the car and deleted stories of JH before the awards show? I was for sure they were done then, he put out that cover the next day “where is the love” basically about a woman who used and lied. I can see them meeting up for him to say this is what I’m doing. Didn’t his brother unfollow her then, but then refollowed her again.

Idk if he was in Paris. I think after montanagate they both realized they could get some traction if they liked each other posts and pretended there was something. JH is all about presenting an image that isn’t real, her ex bf Chuck basically said she will lie and that it wasn’t his fault they broke up so as she always been a cheater? BB who is obviously insecure just fell for it all. She manipulated him and used him and he probably really thought she cared about him. People don’t discard people they care about. All with his therapist parents you think he would have seen her for what she is.

Therapists and empathetic people are notorious for wanting to find and believe the best in people and hoping people can change or be fixed in some way. Maybe Ben is still holding out hope she will eventually come around and that’s why he thinks he’s Harry Burns. But he’s really the Sally in this situation

R198 Yes I think that was all round about the same time. And your last point... that’s what I could never get my head round - I said at the time, how could he get involved with her when he had a ringside seat at the JH/BL circus. But of course he would only have heard her side of things.....

R199 Haha thanks for the belly laugh I’ve just had about that!!!

What makes everyone think that BB was with JH in Paris at the fancy hotel? If he was and things have been and since, perhaps heading into it he misunderstood the trip’s purpose or what it meant for them, but and had a disappointing realization/come to Jesus coming out of it.

*things have been bad since

I mean, I don't know what everyone's thinking. . . he's already liked her new post. At an abnormal time for his usual pattern. Something different today or did he turn notifications on..

Wait, WTF. He just liked her latest post, of her snowboarding pr wakeboarding, or whatever the hell it is she’s doing. Has he no self-respect at this point?

What gets me the most is JH selling her pseudo-emotional intelligence/life and fitness guru persona is the biggest joke of all!!!

This white privileged racist prostitute feeding derivative wellbeing knowledge to the public and praising herself as a strong independant woman who owns her own multiple "businesses" and on the other hand being an old whore on a beach and rejecting an opportunity of love from someone (idiotic enough to fall for her) and not be secure in her own wealth and to have what...more money, to have fake likes on insta and to have (manipulated) pics of herself to stay relevant in a vapid industry.

Look im very aware of the entertainment industries code to social climbing to being a top level star, celeb or serious creative of your craft: actor, singer, dancer etc. there are certain exchanges of sex that has to be done to get to a certain basic level status of popularity and wealth. For all the opportunities JH and BB have to be positive role models and to do actual positive real work and support in communities with their social platform and influence pre and post pandemic...they're greed for superficial adoration from young vulnerable females and materialistic things makes them look empty and ignorant...Ben "climbing 500yr old Joshua tree for an insta pic" Barnes your not cut out for Hollywood your too soft in the head! Mate get yourself home and get some free sessions with the parents...or has that been the problem!- rant over

Well since he liked her shit clearly this is not dead. Thought her BFF DC’s salty comment on the duet would mean they were all laughing at BB on the yacht, but he could be on a plane to meet her right now.

Trolls get ready. This shit is still not done. Her birthday is right around the corner. Since we all know he was liking all her shit before Montanagate. R205 yep he has no self respect. He is getting played and just loving it? Why did I ever find him attractive?

She’s gonna give him a raging STD.

R206 empty and ignorant, ain’t that the truth.

Ahhh JH at least you've still got BB to boost your confidence and give you a like when needed!

For all your thirsty posts, reels etc. of you trying to be relevant in celeb world the past few weeks you didnt make it onto the amFar insta stories looking sparkly with Nina alongside all the Alist peeps....but your bestie Nina and DC did, that must sting abit!!

Even Rupaul drag race Miss Fame got more coverage than you on amFar insta stories and she looked even more stunning than you...that must sting a bit more!!! Oh well back to the drawing board JH what else you got in your bag of tricks...besides tricks!;)

R196 Oooh, I want to know what the "much more" is! June 2020 definitely fits the cheatin' with Our Ben timeline. Pretty obvious they were fucking the entirety of lockdown, cluminating in Montanagate.

Syl except in November when she went back to brooks. What a joke that was? Her howling with his dog, playing the good wifey. Ben singing sad songs. He better hope that adultery shit doesn’t come out as true. If he broke up a marriage, than Covid traveling just to get his dick wet, then tried to play it off like he was the victim. If all of that is true, we know most of it is, than wow he is garbage.

R208 What do you mean "going to give?" The bitch didn't ever wear a mask during a HIGHLY communicable deadly pandemic as she traveled around and played in spot after spot after spot. What makes you think she would EVER have someone wear a condom?

R207 just been having a wee peek on insta of general pics of the gala so far and nope i think JH is moving swiftly on...there are lots of pics and videos of Nina and JH (being very thirsty and over the top) in photos and videos sniffing around the "Emily in Paris" hot hot French actor Lucas Bravo and being tagged in loads of pics surrounded by hot richer looking men prob by her PR. By the looks of JH its a "Ben whats his face is too poor for me Barnes" scene. Ben you plonka stop liking her shit you look like tool!

If JH manages to land Lucas Bravo I will eat my hat!!

The way her friends treat him on social media reflects what they know of him from her. So maybe he’ll let her jerk him around some more, or maybe he’s wised up, but I can’t imagine his obsession will survive 6 months of Budapest.

Hasn’t it been said on here multiple times that he often stays in touch with and likes posts of his ex? I think this discord about him liking her posts is an overreaction IMO. If they went to great lengths to hide their relationship in the first place they (plus any decent PR team) would also do at least the bare minimum to make it look like the split was amicable and they are just back to being friends (because they want you to think they have just been friends this whole time).

R215 I mean this has been going on for over a year. His obsession and likes and covers that are exactly mirroring their situation has been going on for over a year. Even in a global pandemic this bullshit continues. During a time when you should be growing and releasing toxic shit because you could fucking die and not just die but die alone unable to talk or say goodbye or right wrongs or say I love you or anything!

JH has been traveling every month for this past year. She could give a fuck about anyone besides herself. She has not stopped or quarantined or anything. I think she sat at home for like a total of two weeks straight and then was in Hawaii, or Vegas, or some other random place.

He really needs to stop supporting her. Totally true about her friends, they never followed him or supported him. Why? That came from how JH presented him in her life and he was clearly not a priority. Not someone to be taken seriously or even be respected!

He seems to make her a priority and what does he get in return? Her saying how yummy things are with some other guy and running around flirting with richer men at some Cannes party.

Oh and maybe a like on a song he posts, but her friends will talk shit and make comments behind his back or on someone else’s insta post for everyone to see. Like we all knew who JH was with and than that person comments on Lizzy’s post about their duet. You know all of them are talking shit making fun of him and they have so little respect Darren knew he could comment. He knew he could publicly say anything, but of course it was never directly to Ben. Ben has allowed all of this. He has allowed them to treat him this way.

Ben stop! You look pathetic! Just stop! Take your power back, these people are walking all over you.

Ahh but we know he’s gonna like her posts for a good long time. Can’t be looking jealous, can he (even tho he sang that for her). She didn’t like his duet with the kid yesterday so as someone already mentioned her social media minion’s probably been told to ignore him!

R210 Lilly love how they found the one pic of nina alone to put in their stories when we can all see there are tons of pics with her and JH on that same carpet. Love that! We seem to not be the only ones who don’t like her.

R217 Yes he does look totally pathetic. She’s used him since day one and the idiot just doesn’t seem to see it. And you just need to read back through all our rantings around Montanagate to see we were convinced ND & SW dropped him in it on purpose, cos they thought he was a complete dick with his ‘no photos’ shit. I almost feel sorry for him, but hey you make your bed, you lie in it.

After her birthday - cos perish the thought he wouldn’t wish her a sparkly happy birthday - he should just gradually wind down the likes and then stop. We know he won’t go cold turkey. And it’s not like she’ll notice anyhow.

Really looking forward to seeing what she posts on his 40th!!!

R217 not necessarily disagreeing with you, but if his likes and covers have been exactly mirroring their situation then what was happening with that cheerful love on top Beyoncé song? He seemed pretty happy

R221 In denial? Thought he was getting an invite to Italy or Cannes? I truly don’t think he’s set foot outside the Us the past couple of months, just sat at home crying over her IG stories maybe??!!

R221 yeah those songs could have been prerecorded and he posted them right after Paris. He was silent for a good two weeks prior to those songs being posted. So he was happy because they were in Paris together.

Ha yes! 222 BB trying to show face and showing off his best acting skills yet...which should warrant an award of some kind! Most idiotic fuckboy covid spreader enabler of the year goes too....BB! Congrats Benny!

As R216 and many others have pointed out BB needs to maintain a specific social media presence of we're not fucking and we're just good pals nothing going on here persona!

The DCriss comment was a very telling show of disrespect from JH and co. towards BB...so where are his legion of superfans to protect him and pounce on JH and co for that low blow. Im surprised Cindy Dakin and a lynch mob didnt storm the gala in Cannes to publically crucify JH and DC...tho that is an insta reel I would love to watch!!

His ‘new BFF’ has posted a new duet today. I’m not hip or trendy enough to know who he is (all she says is ‘Adam’) but she’s fangirling over him a bit. Sorry BB, you’re yesterday’s news. And no like for it from him (yet).

R204 He is sometimes on IG around 2-4 pm his time, so not too unusual. He posted the S&B costume pix around that time.

R219 Yes!!! JH is defo getting ghosted by certain media outlets (the more classy kind?!) Nina overall does seem to get more media coverage than her bestie and that must put a strain on the friendship. I can imagine JH being the more insecure of the both and lowkey jealous!

Ha dang Lizzy had a packed schedule. BB who? Oh old man Netflix fantasy dude. Ummm cool bro. Long and forgotten. Where is Cindy! My girl, you need to defend your idol. He gettin disrespected out here and on your turf, insta! Maybe they will make a new weird video again because he didn’t bring this all on himself.

R224 Tbh when I first saw the DC comment, I thought it was just a kind of ‘woah’ type thing. But then someone on here pointed out it was rude & trolly, and when I looked at it again I thought yeah, it is. And Lizzy didn’t like or reply to it. Someone else did say to DC that he needed to duet with BB tho! So I think it’s flown under the fangirls’ radar.

Oh and the lad is Adam Melchor if that means anything to you. On her stories she’s larking around with him and has posted loads of other people’s stories about it. BB got one story from her original post which wasn’t even the full song?? BFF... don’t think so.

R228 they should not be BFF she is 21 and he is old as fuck! Ben leave the children alone!

What did DC say? I don’t have Instagram, was it mean?

R230 He just put ‘uhhhhhh’ ... that was it, no emojis or anything

Oh the shade! That is rude. Just uhhhhh. . . Like this is bad and why are you doing this? kind of uhhhh. I would be madder but BB doesn’t deserve it. He is inviting that.

R232 Yeah, I think so. But he didn’t have the balls to put it on BB’s post, you’ll notice. And everyone seems to think they were friends at some point? Sounds like JH has maybe been dripping some poison into DC’s ear about BB, just like I think she did with BB about Brooks.

Still unclear on why some of you seem convinced BB was in Paris with JH.

R216 Good point. I think we all just have JH PTSD. I like that he finally was into/serious about someone, but appalled with who it was and the hypocritical behavior it led to. (Yes, Benny B, we know your squirrelly relationship with the truth has you rationalizing lies of omission. You’ve told us yourself.)

And sadly, it does seem like karma has bit him in his flat ass :-(

I just saw this sad breaking news and thought of this thread. Peace, Biz!

I have to give it to Nina and JH for their professionalism in grifting so far at the gala...theyve managed to slide into the presence of Lucas Bravo and the chair of the sponsoring organisation (red sea film) of the gala and into his insta stories @Mohammed al Turki...she aiming high BB!

R234 I’ll act as Devil’s advocate here, as I’m really not 100% convinced he was there....

BB posts that depressive Elvis song on Sun 20 June, and an IG story of a deer (no stickers) in the woods. BB looks tired and a very unhappy bunny. Radio silence ensues.

The Ho starts posting on 29 June - moody art shots and selfies (truly selfies! - no-one else in them) from museums and art galleries, and who likes going to them? Not JH!!!!

She posts a story walking across a bridge with a load of love padlocks on it, some thought you could hear BB talking/laughing in the background (have to say I didn’t think it was him)

She posts a story/selfie of her in a red dress and some eagle-eyed person on here spotted a tiny red heart emoji with a lion emoji on top of it stuck on her chest (the same emoji BB used in his England football stories)

All the above from the Ho were stories

She starts actually IG posting again on 4 Jul and suddenly she’s on yachts in Capri

Ben posts the hippy happy Beyoncé song on 5 Jul

So, the evidence for the prosecution is .... radio silence from BB over the time period we surmise she’s in Paris, her uncharacteristic coyness about posting who she’s with, the ‘getting some culture’ stuff, the heart/lion emoji, BB posts the day after she reappears on IG posts in Italy

All the above is undoubtedly true and suspicious-looking, but unlike Montanagate we have no photographic proof. BB’s lack of posts - nothing new. All the rest - could be totally coincidental and we’re reading things into it all that aren’t there.

The Ho was with someone that’s for sure - we just don’t know who.

R236 Edward Scissorhands has been at that dress the Ho’s wearing! If you wanna hook a husband at these fancy parties JH -dig that push up bra out of your drawer dear, it’ll help.

R237 Ah, thank you. It is indeed suspect.

One thing I’ll point out about the Love on Top post: the two 🍯 honeypot emojis. It definitely conjured unwelcome visions of BB’s head between JH’s thighs. 🤢 Wonder if that was somehow related to JH’s fake orgasm references.

Funny I thought those emojis were because the first two words of the song are honey, honey. Thank you for that image, which I will now try to never think about again.

R238 Ha! You know it didn’t dawn on me what they were, duhhhh. That is weird!

Yes, undoubtedly it looked suspicious but I still say there’s reasonable doubt!!

R239 Oh thank you for rescuing my mind which was circling the drain. Yes... absolutely a BB thing to do.

Since JH and Nina spent most of that party hanging out with Lucas Bravo, the emily in paris guy, hopefully he can entertain JH for her birthday and BB won’t be there. Nina seems to like Lucas so already winning over BB. Also emily in paris completely bought that Emmy nomination, that show was awful. Lucas and JH have things in common like buying opportunities and notoriety. JH we see you with your 300 comments out of 4 million followers.

R242 Yeah - magically doubled up by her ‘likes & replies’.

She was obviously busy doing that while wiggling her ass on the dance floor.

I’m hoping she’s gonna stay out there for her birthday. In fact I hope she just stays there.

And as already mentioned, BB ffs stop liking her posts, you absolute fool.

Not meaning to henpick you, Benny B, but liking the posts of Darren Criss when he doesn’t follow you back and publicly mocks you is even more bizarre. You’re being Mean Girled by people who make a career of chasing the very same paparazzi spotlight from which you religiously hide. Makes absolutely no sense.

How sad he is asking for validation from people who openly hate him. Maybe he is going out there, I mean is DC on the yacht? Trying to make nice before he crashes the party?

Where’s Darren’s wife, Mia, and Nina’s bf Shaun White amidst all of their hijinks with JH?

His wife was at the party. There is video of them kissing and she has on the ugliest dress I have ever seen. As for Shaun idk probably working or with his side chick. He does like to cheat on his girlfriends.

Ah well, I can at least say I’ve never read any rumors about BB cheating. So unless I’ve missed those, that at least is one redeeming quality in his favor.

R247 Shaun had knee surgery recently and is home recovering.

R249 Is that why The Ho said Nina *finally* made it to France? Cause she was home taking care of Shaun instead of in France taking care of her where she belonged? Certainly plausible..

I think Nina had some other events booked. She was at some event with some tiktokers in all glam, trying to get that clout. That’s why they are such good friends, totally there for the cameras and nothing else. The videos of nina posing with that dog are so awkward. Those girls brought their own photographer to that event? So weird. As for Nina not everyone can just leave LA and travel Europe for a month like JH. Wonder why JH didn’t fly the hair stylist friend out to retouch that fake hair? Is it maybe because LA might go into another lockdown as Covid is spiking? She should just stay in europe, become a rich housewife, it’s her perfect role.

R247 Worse than the Ho’s dress? Cos that was one ugly ass piece of fabric.

R248 Maybe that’s the salient point - we’ve just never read about it! But that’s because we never see anything about his possible relationships in the first place lmao. Get the feeling he’d be the one cheated on because of his paranoia about going public. And he kinda shot himself in the foot on that live by saying he wouldn’t be so coy if he met someone he wanted to marry cos he never has so far, has he? So that truly just says “Messin’ Around” to the women he’s dated and off they go into the arms of someone else?

R251 I think I’d even put up with her being on my continent if she became a rich housewife. Anything not to have to see her stupid face again. Interested to see if she makes it back to LA for her birthday.

R244 Oh dearie me, yes - another ND/SW situation. I’m betting BB didn’t see that shady comment from DC on Lizzy’s post….

OK can we just start a 'we clearly hate jh thread and aren't jelly that BB plowed her like a field in springtime' and not talk about her fake ass anymore until we see it in a pic with BB again? I am so sick of her I want to be violently ill.

R254 Well everyone it does seem like the gods above answered peoples previous prayers of JH and BB not to be together! I am intrigued about how this all unfolds further but yes JH and BB fatigue! R251 and R252 JH is approx. a 20hr drive from my front door!! No that is way to close for comfort take her back to the US and throw her in the fire dumpster! 248 that would be another convenient aspect of being lowkey on social media for BB, the cheater just got cheated! R237 valid points about the timeline...always the speculations with Benny Boy!

R254 R255 I can’t tell you how much I DON’T want to talk about the selfish irrelevant airhead publicity whore that is JH any longer, but every time we think she’s out of the picture, something else happens to bring her name back up (yeah that’s me gagging) eg Paris.

If idiot Barnes would only just stop liking her self-aggrandising posts and give us something else to dissect….

R256 well next stop JH and BB birthday rounds coming up after that shoot them both put to space!

R257 Oh yeah - and but then there’s … what’ll she post for his big 4-0? I’d love it to be a big fat nada but I’m sure she’ll try and squeeze every last bit of speculative publicity juice out of that lemon. Eye roll.

R254 Exactly. Everybody's all, "so glad we don't have to talk about JH anymore!" then proceed to write 60 posts about her. Unless it directly involves BB, give it a rest. Social media likes mean nothing to someone of Ben's advanced years.

I wish Ben was evolved enough that his likes didn’t mean anything, but I think he only works in code, so then he can get away with stuff if everything is subtle and speculative. I think those likes say a lot. Especially when her friends who she is on a yacht with are basically making fun of him, yet he still likes their posts.

R60 Sadly I think you’re spot on there. He thinks he’s being all Secret Squirrel but we see you, Ben!

Even if that DC comment was meant to throw shade I think it’s weird you all think Ben even saw that when it wasn’t even on his own post (because DC wouldn’t have the balls to do that) and there are thousands of comments per day that he doesn’t see because of the amount of followers and activity on his public account. And I think this reading into the likes and time of day of Instagram activities is frankly bizarre when I doubt anyone is that militaristic about their social media usage here and likes are hardly an insight into someone’s life when that’s the most minor of all human interaction on a site that shows the highlight reel of maybe 5% of a person’s whole life. It’s going to be highly amusing when it turns out Ben has been busy with other things this whole time and this ridiculous JH obsession was just a welcome distraction.

R262 Puh-leeeeez. He’s the one most likely to spend all day analyzing a text, remember? So yeah, he’s like most other people who are purposeful about how they interact with those they’re either chasing… or pushing away. BB isn’t unique in this regard. It’s hardly uncommon to communicate passive-aggressively through our social media accounts.

R262 We don’t think he did see the DC comment. Mentioned as recently as R253.

R262 PS BB *is* that militaristic about social media, he’s got ‘slots’ when he generally interacts.

I think he did see it which is why he liked DC post.

I think he does read the comments and the messages and these threads because he spent weeks getting accounts shut down and untagging himself during montanagate. We all know his fangirls read these and report back to him. I get some of you are late to this game. You weren’t on these threads a year ago when everything went down. So welcome to the ways in which BB works. Welcome to the disappointment of who he really is.

oh and he will do everything in his power to bury the truth. That is why there are so many threads and accounts trying to hold him accountable and bring out the truth, but the truth is ugly. From what the truth looks like is he definitely was traveling in a pandemic when there were no vaccines and a lot of people were dying, oh and a lot of people are still fucking dying! When he preached for months about caring about keeping people safe. He didn’t even have a mask on in that restaurant. Then he aligned himself for 10 months with a woman who could give a fuck about anyone but herself, but she is gonna sell you on the idea that she is a healer and she cares about your well being. All the while she took 10 vacations before the vaccine ever came out.

I need all this judgement to take a fucking step back. You are clearly new, catch up.

The burying of the truth is exactly why the likes and timing don’t mean anything. If it’s in his best interest to make it appear like these are and have been nothing more than amicable acquaintances and friendships then why would he do anything publicly to indicate otherwise? The grave missteps of the last year were learning experience, people rarely make the same mistake twice once they learn how technology works, and once they are savvy enough they know people will only find what they want to be found.

I don’t understand your argument. He knows we watch everything he does so him liking stuff he knows people will know. We don’t know they are friends, he just likes posts and gets nothing in return so not sure how good of a friendship that actually is. If he didn’t want people to know anything about anything he could send a DM or like on his private account and not do it on a public account.

The timing is so we know what time zone he is in or did you miss that part? Yes people make mistakes and adults usually take accountability for those mistakes instead of play the victim and pretend it didn’t happen. He thought no one would find out about Montana. Yet here we are.

Are you BB? If you are, once again you still aren’t getting it.

Oh man, if BB does read these threads, then listen up. Choose better women, treat women better, recognize that lies of omission are still lies, prioritize having a grown-up relationship, be accountable for your mistakes and poor choices, and know that being a polite, charming conflict avoider does not make you a good person; it just makes you a polite, charming conflict avoider.

He has loyal minions who do read these threads (and we know who the main culprit is) then scuttle off and DM him, “Oh Benny, Benny, they’re saying mean shit about you again”. He acknowledged that in some interview, saying he sees several familiar fan pages who ‘always look after him’. I think he probably scrolls thru the first handful of the thousands of comments on his own posts, but on someone else’s? Nah. Not convinced he saw that DC comment as I don’t think he would’ve liked his post. Don’t forget the Ho was posing away in the first pic of that post.

R269 has written such a perfect, concise mission statement we can probably shut these threads down now. LOL

Cindy, liebchen -- tell Ben:

[quote] Choose better women, treat women better, recognize that lies of omission are still lies, prioritize having a grown-up relationship, be accountable for your mistakes and poor choices, and know that being a polite, charming conflict avoider does not make you a good person; it just makes you a polite, charming conflict avoider.

And I would add: Get a new agent, choose better projects, move back to England for a few years, do theater, and don't skip leg day!

Danke schön!

I guess I could have tagged Cindy...

R272 Well, he won’t miss that, will he!!! Lmao

TBH I can't tell if that was shade or if DC is just really bad at expressing himself. Maybe he was trying to say that he was stunned or speechless with how good it was.

I mean, it's POSSIBLE.

R274 Yeah, it’s ambiguous - but you’d think if it was ‘how good’ he’d have added an emoji or two? Or at the very least an exclamation mark.

And sorry to bring this up but BB’s liked the Ho’s latest thirst pic of her on the amFar red carpet which she apparently posted 4 hours ago??!!

Guess she had to post some of herself cos no-one else did!!!

R275 yeah he did. in the middle of the night in LA?! Another sleepless night checking out what more successful people with real life were up to?))))

R276 Or he’s in Europe? Cinders - you *shall* go to the Ball? God, I hope not - that would be way past pathetic.

Oh no. The timing of his like does not bode well for his presence in LA. If he is in Europe now to meet JH for her birthday, then he’s utterly hopeless.

R278 we’ll find out soon enough… Fingers crossed there is still some hope for him

R275 R276 R277

Exactly. To all the naysayers, this is why you pay attention. According to IG, she posted about 3amish LA time. And according to R275, he had already liked it by about 6amish LA time. (I'm presuming you weren't watching to notice exactly when he liked it..)

Now, he does always get up earlier on Sundays lately, but not that early! And also to all the naysayers, just because *you* don't have regular social media check in times, do not presume that Ben doesn't. Those of us that have followed him for years know that he does, and what they are. And yes of course he can always change them, or be otherwise occupied, we are aware and we note it. Like now. Either he's not sleeping, or he's not in LA.

Fin.

Or he could be in the UK visiting friends and family or having auditions or fittings and other pre-production meetings for S&B there before filming starts in the fall. Considering the reports JH is husband shopping and her general behavior over the last month I think JH is the least likely reason Ben would be in Europe. Jack probably unfollowed her after a brotherly discussion in the pub about what a psycho she is. When he knows every online move he makes is tracked here why wouldn’t he be using that knowledge to manipulate the people following him and throw people off what he’s actually doing.

It’s almost like this thread doesn’t actually want to get off the subject of JH…..Maybe she needs her own thread?? When was the last time we actually had any compelling clues they were even a thing anymore besides some likes that are basically maintaining the status quo of their previous friendship. Also that “uhhhh” from DC could have been because he was the one who introduced them and didn’t get credit and he knows Ben isn’t in LA and that video was prerecorded and maybe there was also one that included DC she hasn’t posted yet. He wouldn’t have liked the video if he meant for that comment to be negative. I’m not sure why the assumptions here are that the people upthread suggesting alternatives or playing devils advocate are new and working on less information that everyone else, when it could in fact be the opposite and the little clues you all used to go off of don’t carry as much value now that they know who and how things are tracked

He’s back up to 250. Those who track this more closely: Who’s the follow, eh?

It’s someone who deactivated and then reactivated their Instagram, otherwise it would show up as the latest follow instead of Freddy’s private account

R284 Ooooooh, you’re good. Those are some topnotch cyber PI skillz.

[quote] It’s almost like this thread doesn’t actually want to get off the subject of JH…..Maybe she needs her own thread??

It can't be said enough fucking times.

When he unfollows her and stops liking her shit or she shows up with some new guy, because he will probably like those pics as well being the simp he is, then it will be known she is out of the picture and then these threads will die because he lives a boring ass life. Without the speculation there is nothing interesting about him. Cool a 40 year old shooting a fantasy tv show, riveting.

R282 remember we had their first pap walks and then no more clues except the likes and comments before Montana. That was 9 months of just likes and comments and then Montana and then right after that the second pap walk. JH divorce wasn’t final so I get the we are just friends to get away from she cheated narrative. She did a pap walk all smiley with brooks right before her romantic vaca with BB over the holidays. When those pap pics come out soon or her birthday pics come out and they are together those saying there is nothing to read into here are gonna have some egg on their face.

R287 There's only one point I disagree with you on dear. He is riveting. To the nearly one million new children he gained as followers from shooting that fantasy tv show.

It's only us adults that find him utterly pathetic.

Lol let’s be honest everyone here finds him riveting, especially the people who track his online interactions down to the time of day. Riveting doesn’t always need to be in a positive sense.

No I don’t. I think he is an asshole and he needs to own what he has done. Also getting teenagers as your main fanbase doesn’t really work in the long run. Where will those fans be in five years? When he is 45? They are no longer disillusioned. Gone, they will be gone. Enjoy your time in the sun Benny B, hope JH shares her money with you.

R291 ha hate is stronger than love. What do they say about meeting your idols, oh don’t.

R290 Admittedly true.

Also just want to point out, some that now (again, but completely understandably) never want to hear about The Ho again were just a couple weeks ago freaking out because of the "social media signs" of a secret lionheart emoji and a secret name change to Harry Burns. We still don't know with certainly the "whys" behind all that, but I don't begrudge you your freak out. It was perfectly understandable as those felt like legitimate clues to you. So you talked about them here.

I only ask that we all be fair and not now "freak out" when others of us continue to notice other changes in patterns and little potential clues to what's going on and bring them up here. After all, it's entirely possible we could be noticing and confirming something that proves Ben and The Ho are fully separated and we don't ever have to talk about her toxic ass ever again. If we don't bring it up to each other to have more eyes looking, the likelihood that only one person will figure it out. . . .

Here I'll start a positive observation. Today's like was a break in his usual pattern. He only liked the post talking about missing red carpets. He *didn't* like her utterly over the top super sexy glam thirst trap post. Whereas previously the latter is the kind of post he *ALWAYS* liked (especially from his private account for other ex-girlfriends). The only time he didn't like sexy posts is when The Ho was using them to shill her businesses (his pattern indicates he doesn't support those). In today's sexy post, the only tags were the people/brands who made her look glam for her event. So unless Ben's jealous that those guys got to get close enough to make her that glam and he didn't, he would have no previously known reason not to like that post too. What does it mean? Absolutely nothing. But it's a change in pattern noted for the future record.

R293 fair points. Also my impression on the red carpet post like (coming from my own viewpoints that they are romantically finished) was that Ben liked it because it was a caption in support of amfAR, a cause he supports, and not just because it’s a pic of her in a dress.

R293 All good points. I get it that some - no, all of us tbh - are sick of hearing about JH but then keep posting about her. Unfortunately that’s because she’s still linked to him in however tenuous a way. And yes, I found it very interesting that he didn’t like her “look how sexy and pouting I am’ video.

Talking of Benny’s IG interactions, he’s been liking up a storm on Lisa Joy Nolan’s posts - just about every one! Much more frequent than on the Ho’s posts. Hoping for that slot on WW4??

Well well well look at that he’s not with JH in Europe after all. Floriana is a significant improvement on the company he keeps, even if they are just coworkers again

Wonder what they are shooting together? Is that Malibu? Glad he is working on something and also glad he is not with JH. Although I think she is flying back as she always posts old random stuff when she is traveling.

R298 Intrigued to know…. his sticker says ‘Rise Up’ with some music notes. I’m guessing this is why he was up super early this morning.

R297 The fangirls will not like how cosy they look!!!

It kinda sounded like he was singing in the background of her story. Maybe they are filming a music video for him

Lol the fan girls are already starting to spiral into despair on Twitter. As far as I know she’s still with Casey Affleck. At least she has been his work love interest before and probably has experience dealing with the fandom

R300 Yeah I hear the singing, but I don’t think it’s him?

R301 Oh dear!! As far as I know too, they’ve been together a while - since 2016, all during Punisher filming I reckon. Haven’t seen anything about Casey’s relationship breaking up, just his bro’s.

Floriana’s IG post from yesterday has her in Massachusetts, so that would explain the early post for PST. Glad he’s back on set in some capacity!

Are there palm trees in Massachusetts? His background looks kinda tropical, definitely greener than a lot of California, but I haven’t spent enough time on the east coast to know if that is or isn’t Massachusetts

Photographic evidence elsewhere on the internet says there are indeed palm trees on Cape Cod.

And the beach is not very Californian looking (Floriana’s story). Wonder what’s happening…..

Hopefully he doesn’t hop the pond after this shoot. He’s inching his way closer to Hoville.

Well, well, well.

Ben has a heart emoji… on his sleeve…..

Wtf??!!!

Code for JH?

Oh fuck here we go again…

Oh fuck. He’s such a dumb fucking twat. Fine, be your own villain. Hang yourself with your own rope.

Does this solve the mystery of what he was leaning on in the sunset pic? That white railing and glass could have easily faded into the background

R310 Yes…. I don’t think I can stand this.

BB uses hearts on literally everything he frequently comments a while heart on Floriana’s posts and put a white snow heart on his fake private account. I think it’s more likely that he’s trying to drop some hint about this new project or just trolling everyone, not anything related to JH.

R269 and R271 well put! Our BB needs a support worker or life coach of some sorts to keep him on track! R272 Bahahaha Joshua trees throw the shadiest shade especially to shady people! Dont worry im sure Cindy is on the trail already. R275 and R276 Oh Benny Boy what a sad state of affairs! BB put down the 3rd bottle of blue wkd and go to bed. Well that answers R262 earlier defensive comment about BB and this whole JH scenario "Ben has been busy with other things this whole time"...nope no he has not!

R314 I hope you are right, because I’m so tired. So so so very tired of this JH bullshit.

R315 Great, I guess I’m now volunteering as tribute to be BB’s straightshootin’ friend who tells him to DELETE HER #; NO, BLOCK IT and step awaaaaaay from her IG profile. Do not engage with her, BB. Hollywood is a polluted sea filled with plenty of other toxic fish.

Do the fangirls still have Floriana permanently canceled as a "rape apologist"? I can't keep up.

R315 ha If he’s been on the cape since at least July 2 when he posted that sunset pic then it actually sounds like he has been busy with something else this whole time as stated in R262. If the only proof we have of any relation to JH (who remember has been off husband hunting for the last month) is a tiny heart posted by a guy who uses hearts constantly for basically everything then I’m going to save myself the stress and say it’s still over between BB and JH until there is something more definitive

R314 Yes he does but I’ve never seen him put one on his own photo before. And on his sleeve? ‘Here I am darling, wearing my heart on my sleeve for you’. We don’t know who it’s aimed at though. Ho or a new girlie? I truly hope you’re right tho.

R318 Yes, I think they do. I saw a comment saying that his only flaw is his friendships, and how can people celebrate them?

R319 Not sure he’s been there since 2 July, but has obviously been working on ‘something’, no doubt we’ll find out soon just what. How juvenile with the emoji thing though.

R321 Well, the bulk of his fanbase is juvenile, afterall. Perhaps the heart on his sleeve is reference to the name of the album we all suspect is coming. ‘Heart on My Sleeve’ or something similarly saccharine.

R322 Haha yes could well be. It’s definitely some kind of message. Wish he’d just stop with all the ‘mysterious’ shit!

He used a variety of hearts after saying that “magnetized to another” thing on his last caption, including one that matches the heart on his sleeve. Maybe it’s related to a song or whatever project he’s working on there? Who knows

I can just imagine BB and FL sitting on that balcony laughing their asses off reading this thread and the fandom fallout after dropping those ambiguous stories lol

R320 He might not have done this before with a heart, but he was putting little eclipses on his pics as hints before the S&B cast announcement, so he’s definitely done something like this related to a work project before. Maybe he finally found a romcom to do since he’s been looking for one for years, and that’s why he put Harry Burns and a white heart on his fake private Instagram account he knew you all would easily find again.

How sad if he is reading these, how sad if he is trolling the trolls. He should be enjoying his life and should be mature enough to not care what a bunch of random people have to say. Oh wait, we aren’t dealing with a mature adult and someone who is turning 40 next month. Like do you see Bradley Cooper putting emojis on stories and playing out this train wreck soap opera, no he is being an alpha and producing movies and making millions.

Ok, time to mock the BBster. If he were to have an album of original songs (which we know he won’t, but if it did), I could see ‘Magnetised to Another’ as lead song. I even gave it the British spelling, as a concession to HRH. Album cover would be a sunset pic.

R328 This you?????

But why go to Massachusetts of all places to do anything music related? I think they are filming a movie

R330 Keep in mind that if they were filming anything official, like a movie, they probably wouldn't be posting anything about it with no official press release. They'd likely be dealing with an NDA preventing pictures of any kind.

R331 true. Unless they were allowed at some point to start building anticipation for it ahead of the casting announcement, which often happens around the same time as filming begins. I think he and others were already dropping hints in Budapest before the official S&B announcement, but I don’t know the exact timing so I could be wrong.

R329 Oh my word, no — but that’s awesome! You can find 2 snarky comments from me via a finsta on the Ho’s latest post, though.

R308 Also just noticed the. . . rose??? . . under the sun sticker. Anyone know if that's always part of it or did Ben add it? I wouldn't even know where to look to check for myself.

But also yes, what the actual fuck is up with the secret super tiny emoji additions from these two morons. *rolls eyes*

That sun sticker comes up when you search for sunset on Instagram and that thing at the bottom was added, but I thought it looked like the same pink heart💓 that’s on his sleeve, not a rose

He’s just alluding to sunset loving again just like he did when he posted that sunset pic from there. Not sure what it means or if it means anything at all

Does he think he is Taylor Swift with this Easter egg shit. She did it better and we know you aren’t her biggest fan. You are lookin like a loser my dude.

I get the uhhhhh comment now from DC. Same, I feel the same 😐

R338 Ooooooh :-( I love his voice. Not every recording is amazing, but I respect that he’s putting himself out there. And I think it was his quarantine equivalent of bread baking/knitting/etc , a sanity-saving exploration of his first love (music).

I wasn’t referring to his singing voice I was referring to how he presents himself to the world. The emoji game playing. He made bread during quarantine, banana bread.

Also when did BB become a saint. We get it he likes music, he sings. Weren’t you just calling him a wanker? Glad to know you are in the fan club, I’m sure Cindy will love to have another helper.

FVW has a Netflix special. Man I actually had respect for that platform.

R342 Lol seriously? this thread wouldn’t exist unless you all were at least slightly infatuated with BB enough to be curious about what he is doing, even if you aren’t always happy with what he’s doing, so I hardly think it’s an accurate comparison to equate giving him a complement with sainthood and jumping straight to the extremism that is Cindy if someone says anything good about Ben. It’s also difficult to be consistent with opinions of him when Ben is so secretive that nothing is consistent

Well this person thinks it’s a fairy 🧚‍♀️ AND a heart 💓 on the sunset and I can kinda see it’s LOL what the FUCK does that mean

JH- she does love sparkles and magic.

R341 Ah, ok. Again, his fandom is super young, so he’s either appealing to their sensibility or just being playful. Hardly the worst of his offenses. And it’s clearly working at building hype since we’re all obsessing over it. (Banana bread is cake, btw, and baking 101. I was referring to the sourdough bread baking craze that led to a flour shortage.)

No it’s not, it’s bread hence the name. Does it really matter? No, you sound just an juvenile as those fangirls.

R348 seriously, is that a joke? It’s cake. Any pastry chef or baker will tell you that. Or cookbook. They even pointed it out in culinary school, from I graduated, and any study of the recipe & directions will demonstrate this in about 10 seconds. Now go look at a bread recipe & directions. Then compare it with all of your cake & muffin recipes. Need I continue? And It’s called Banana Loaf in the UK because they know it’s not bread. It’s just baked in a loaf pan instead of a cake pan or muffin tin

Ahahhahahaha really? Got you all in your feels. This thread went from where is Chike and tech support to what is bread? The intelligence and gravitas is astounding. I would rather talk about JH. I get why the fangirls call this trash. Why would anyone take this seriously with these arguments. Hope JH and BB get married, it’s a mess over here. Don’t even know what the subject is anymore.

R345 Yeah, definitely the same heart as on his sleeve and another one underneath. Could be a fairy I guess.

R340 Any of those mean anything to anyone? Not sure it’s something as grand as a film but we’ll see no doubt.

R326 Ah I must’ve missed the emojis from pre-S&B pix, good spot. Nd he put 3 white hearts as a comment on Lima’s post the day before….

R333 Ha what did you say? (Sorry can’t face wading through the sickly syrupy bot comments!)

Looks like FL’s going to be heading to Vancouver BC soon, according to this article so whatever this ‘something exciting’ is, it’s nothing long term.

Hi all, finally have the ability to post as opposed to just reading.

Had something to add to a reply a ways back, about BB renting his house vs. owning. Someone asked. I can 100% confirm that he does not rent. He bought the house back in 2015 and it wasn’t purchased under his name for anonymity purposes.

R354 Ah, thanks for circling back — that was me who asked :-)

[R355]

Also, to make matters worse. JH and BB live a 4 minute drive from each other! Just google mapped each address and it is exactly 4 mins.

R354 I’m glad he didn’t purchase it under his name! Wouldn’t want any psycho fans showing up, especially ones so volatile they get triggered by being corrected about the intricacies of naming baked goods. They might just snap if Ben accidentally slipped and called it banana loaf

Ugh if you know the address please refrain from posting it here or anywhere. That’s just fucked up

Definitely NOT posting their addresses. Just providing context.

R354 That is pretty savvy of him. Which then begs the question of how R356 knows his and JH’s addresses?!?

Hers is searchable online and for his, discovered it through one of his stories.

R361 Ah, so much for savvy. 🤦‍♀️ Ben, Ben, Ben.

R359 Thanks for that. There a few people who’ve had this info for some time but haven’t posted it, thankfully - that’s a step too far.

Was trying to pinpoint where they might have taken those vids but there are a lot of choices! FL located herself at Truro in her previous post but that could have been a day trip. Calling all Cape Cod experts - any ideas?

R340 from what I could tell from the name/email of these that are in production in MA, most have already announced the cast or are filming somewhere not on the coast, so I’m not sure he’s in any of these. One of them is the musical Ryan Reynolds and Will Ferrell are currently filming in Boston called Spirited and it would be absolutely hilarious to see Ben in a musical with the two of them! 😂 I think it’s likely something smaller like a music video or maybe a pilot

Forgot to say - just for the record, it was Emma Mackey’s IG account which was deactivated/reactivated on BB’s.

BTW, did anyone else get more of the "weird Ben hugs" vibes from yesterday's video? Did he triple pump that thing or am I seeing things?

R367 What are weird hug vibes? Seemed more like an effusive hug toward a good friend, nothing creepy or inappropriate 🤷‍♀️

R367 I think she double-hugged him rather than the other way round?

R367 there’s a video going around of him triple thumping a tree after hugging it haha maybe that’s what you saw

R368 It's a bit of a running joke after commenting on the famous "he hugged his dog walking friend with really spread legs" picture. Cause who does this?? Just bend a little bit dude!

R371 haha I forgot about this! No one in that hug looks comfortable except maybe the partially visible dog. If he can put up with his fans at cons demanding he hug them from the front, back, and side all while wearing the props they bring him then you think he would be a pretty seasoned hugger by now, but the paps clearly make things tense.

R368 Oh, forgot about that pic. The only reason a man hugs with his legs spread like that is so the other person can feel his package. So I suspect that woman was a FWB who he was really happy to see ;-), not merely a friend.

Lol well then I guess he got cock blocked by the dog, its leash, and her arm in between them. Poor guy can’t catch a break

R374 Her arm, no doubt, was keenly aware of whatever he was sharing. She seemed equally happy to see him, and pretty jazzed in her backwards glance, so I think the only ones made uncomfortable were those not involved in that hug. 😂

R373 I think that theory was explored a while back, apparently the girl (forgotten her name) had a boyfriend at the time, and I can’t remember whether it was her or the bf that he knew. There was also a comment that he was adopting a version of the ‘Trump Bent Foward At The Waist’ stance to emphasise that there was no touching of bits!

Yes heaven forbid if the bits might touch while the paps are around! The horror!!! But I’m not sure how much an existing boyfriend would matter if a Ben Barnes opportunity presented itself….he’s blessed/cursed with the looks that wreck homes whether he likes it or not 😂

The fandom is still in meltdown with three camps established…..

The ‘I’m going to kill myself’ camp…. they think BB and FL are together and/or engaged (where did that come from?!) and are also bewailing the fact that she got a ‘forehead kiss’ and they didn’t. I didn’t see one of those, did you?

The “Rape Apologist/brown face’ accusers… how can he even be friends with her!? Some of them cross over into camp 1.

The “Leave them alone” camp. Or they will beat you.

Hopefully should calm down soon, once they see whatever it is they were shooting.

I could suggest a fourth of course - no social distancing. See link - this was issued on Sat 17th. There are restrictions still in place and one line caught my eye.

-Handshaking, kissing, hugging or other forms of close contact increase risk of transmission of COVID-19.

Still possibly covid spreading, Benny Boy?!

R378 I’m not sure why social distancing would be required if they’re both fully vaccinated?

Ben must have kicked someone out of the 250 club because his newest followed account is this cinematographer. Maybe they worked together yesterday on whatever that was

R379 Doesn’t stop you getting or passing it on. There’s been a surge in cases in the Provincetown area (idk where they are in Cape Cod) and they’re still making recommendations about mask wearing and social distancing in that article. We still don’t fully have a handle on this pandemic so why take unnecessary chances?

Oh but hell, BB’s been doing that anyway since New Year so guess it doesn’t really matter…..

R379 Well, they get to decide who they let into their own bubbles. It’s not like he was hugging or kissing an unwitting stranger — and if they’re both fully vaccinated, it’s definitely not a Montanagate sitch.

R380 somebody here was screen recording his followers when he came down to 249. So if this person is still here, please sleuth your way to figure out who was dumped)))

Ok the criticism for what he did at New Years was obviously warranted. There was no widely available vaccine and the time, it likely involved international travel, and we were in the middle of a massive covid wave. This in R381 is kinda ridiculous especially since the CDC guidance says it’s safe to go without masks as long as you are vaccinated and they were traveling for work it wasn’t even like it was a vacation, although that would be ok too as long as you are vaccinated and still following local guidelines. Plus the only evidence we saw of them together was outside which greatly reduces the risk of transmission. Do you expect everyone to just sit at gone and not work even if they are vaccinated? You are just grasping for something to be negative about at this point

Plus the film industry has been one of the most careful about regular testing and contact tracing even if everyone is vaccinated in order make things work and continue production, and has been one of the only industries national governments have approved to cross boarders with strict precautions, so it’s also highly likely they were actually more careful than the average tourist, because they certainly wouldn’t be allowed to go back and forth between the US and Canada for work without those precautions, which Ben did last year for S&B final shooting and FL is doing for her show. I get that some people are content and have the means to just sit at home forever, but the tourism, entertainment, service, etc industries need to eventually move on to survive, and it’s not just the rich actors who participate in those industries

R381 R382 No, I’m not just grasping for negatives, No, I don’t expect them to sit at home if they’re vaxxed, but I’d like to see some common sense involved. As far as we know he hasn’t seen her since Punisher days so that’s a risk for both of them right there. We don’t know what the project is but is it really necessary for them to film together? - especially if it’s just a music video for his album which seems to be the current speculation. That’s hardly a top priority.

My friend’s niece (age 31 and double vaxxed) has just caught covid and is pretty ill with it, vaxx or not. Another friend, who works for our health service (NHS), has lost several colleagues to it just over the past few months and they were not in the ‘vulnerable’ groups. Today is ‘Freedom Day’ here in England with the restrictions no longer being law, but at the same time the Govt. is saying ‘remain cautious, don’t do this, don’t do that and oh yeah we might need to review this’ so it’s a mixed message. The number of cases is rising again here - Covid has not gone away and the vaxx won’t miraculously stop you getting or spreading it.

The NHS is quietly preparing for a third wave and sadly they were right last time when they anticipated the second wave.

We can just agree to disagree on this, I know that not everyone agrees with my viewpoint and that’s fine. I’m just sick of celebrities doing what they damn well please, same as they have throughout this pandemic.

R383 Yep I’m still here, I’ll get back on it!

R377

“ But I’m not sure how much an existing boyfriend would matter if a Ben Barnes opportunity presented itself….he’s blessed/cursed with the looks that wreck homes whether he likes it or not”

Truer words were never spoken!!! LOL

I’m not saying the concerns aren’t valid and I’m definitely not excusing his behavior around NYE, but I think the general consensus is covid is not going to go away for the foreseeable future and we are going to have to learn to live with it, which is going to look vastly different in each country. You are lucky to have the incredible NHS that’s free, quality care for everyone and a government that for the most part tried to take care of its people and businesses when they were forced to close and stay home. In the US healthcare, if you are lucky enough to have it at all, is tied to your employer or quite expensive to pay for yourself so when your job, income, and very minimal government benefits disappear there’s not much to fall back on. But we were also very lucky to have fast easy access to highly effective vaccines (for now) so the pandemic in the US has turned into a pandemic of the unvaccinated (for serious illness and death, I know breakthrough cases still happen). So if it’s relatively safe for the vaccinated to have more freedoms and that freedom might encourage the hesitant to get vaccinated, it’s become especially frustrating to see people still judging and shaming certain behaviors like there’s no vaccine at all, especially when it comes to your employment and employing others who need jobs. There will of course be more waves and variants, but right now the vast majority of cases and deaths in the US are due to our unfortunately numerous numbers of incredibly stupid people who choose not to get vaccinated and probably still think that orange piece of shit is present and has their best interests in mind.

R389 I hear you! And your points are all very valid. The vaxx is definitely the way forward, we do need to move towards our ‘new normal’ and we have also been lucky in the UK to have had a fast rollout, although we also have ‘hold outs’ who think it’s going to make them grow two heads or something. (I checked this morning and I’ve still only got one!)

I think I’m just ticked off that BB could *possibly* be travelling on a vanity project which just seems really selfish? I - along with millions worldwide - lost my job thanks to covid so that is also not making me feel very happy about this little Cape Cod trip! On a personal level for them, FL is about to begin filming that series she’s on and he’s got S&B2 coming up so if god forbid either of them did catch it, that could screw things up big time for them.

My friend’s niece contracted it after meeting family members in a park and having a good old hug! If anything, BB should be out there on the vaxx campaign trail encouraging everyone to get it.

Then again, they both live in LA so there must be some reason for the Cape Cod location. She doesn’t post pix of her & her bf so we don’t know if this is their vacation and BB’s just hopped on that bandwagon, or if it’s an actual real proper honest to god shoot.

Let’s hope this Mystery Project is worth it! (The fan mock suicides, FL trolling, BB x FL x JH speculation!)

R380 R383 Stand down…. totally boring unfollow of Song Exploder, a podcast & Netflix series in which artists break down a song of theirs piece by piece. He probably used it for that ‘Jealous’ cover, remember he said he’d ‘looked it up’ and found out it was about a father and son?

Wonder if that was before or after he’d warbled it for She Who We Will Not Name?!!

R391 my god!) I just keep wondering how he chooses whom to dump to add someone new to his 250?)))) if it’s like him scrolling up and down his following list and deciding who is already not worthy?😅😅😅 some quality waste of time indeed 🙈🙈🙈

R392 Since I’ve become The Follow Sleuth over the past few days LMAO - I and my screen-exhausted eyes can tell you that he’s followed some accounts that he never seems to interact with (mainly like the one he’s just unfollowed but some people too) and some which he loyally ‘Likes for Britain’. Surprisingly that doesn’t include the Ho, it’s others where he likes just about every post… some co-stars from the past for instance. Granted they don’t usually post anywhere near as much as our favourite publicity whore!

[quote] BB should be out there on the vaxx campaign trail encouraging everyone to get it.

THIS.

Remind me, has BB even posted about being vaccinated? Even if he has, that's not enough. Every celeb with any sort of following should be beating the vaccination drum.

R393 Checked out the new follow…. has been a bit of a Jack-of-all-trades, works on mostly shorts. So.. a fantasy Punisher S3 where Russo & Dumont meet up in the afterlife or… a music video?

R394 No, he hasn’t. Not a squeak.

Haha as much as I loved Russo and would love an alternate redemption ending, Marvel would never give them the rights to make anything punisher related. Maybe one or both of them decided to write and direct a short, or it’s a music video, or some cause related commercial/ mini documentary. I didn’t see any previous music video work so I’m less sure that’s what it was now

She has quite a few commercial clients too so really it could be anything

Another sunny story, but this time I don’t see any cryptic emojis. Maybe he’s doing a Beatles cover next

R399 Possibly…..

….‘here comes the sun, little darling’ sticker…..oh please… please… don’t let this be a reference to *her*…. (birthday tomorrow). Fucking so sick of her!

R397 R398 Yes some good ‘possibles’ there!

R400 Meant to say… LA or Cape Cod do we think?

It could be a hint S&B will be filming soon and he will be reunited with his sun summoner shortly. Between that, his Billy Shears/Beatles obsession, his general obsession with sunsets there are so many other things that come to mind first before that irrelevant Ho. She’s been spouse shopping in the sun this whole time they are over

R401 Just answered my own question… we don’t know when this was taken of course, but I can make out the same hills in the background so Cape Cod.

R402 From your typed post to the god or gods’ ears. Please.

R403 Funny, I would say the opposite.. to me those look like the hills to the north of Malibu again. Of course it's no where near late enough for the sun to be that low in the sky over there yet, is it? Yeah basically I don't know where he is!

R394 R396 Sillies. He liked this tweet an hourish ago or so.

TELL ME HE DOESN'T READ THESE THREADS!! LOL!!!!!!

Maybe the sun just doesn’t look that low to me, but I don’t think it’s Malibu because the sun would be setting in the west behind him and over the water. That pic looks like the sun is just high or setting in the opposite direction of the water, which makes me think east coast. Who knows

R406 Not saying you're wrong, I obviously don't know, and apologies for getting way too into the weeds, but in mid-July (close to the summer solstice) the sun sets in the NW, not the west over the water. Similar to this video, which Rob took in late September, so the sun is pretty darn close to setting due west. (also I'm assuming that's Malibu cause it looks like it)

However, to me the sun in the sky is correct for 7pmish east coast, not 4pmish west coast, which would mean you're correct. Unless of course it's not a photo from today. Who knows!

R404 R405 R406 R407 Mr Ambiguous strikes again! Whhhherrrrre’s Benny!!! As usual we have no real idea, lmao.

Also, apologies in advance but I’ve got three thoughts re the sunset pic….

1. I can’t find that sticker on Giphy, Google or Insta. If Create was used (not sure BB would venture there to make this but…), I can’t get that solid pink colour only gradient, so I’ve hit a dead end. Maybe he did just find it on the internet somewhere.

2. The lyrics don’t appear in the song in that order. Adapted by BB for his own unknown reasons.

3. This one’s tenuous! The pendant’s on prominent display in this pic (it’s called ‘Be Here Now’). It was hidden under his T in yesterday’s posts.

So, no emojis but more hidden messages? Rolls eyes. If he posts a cover of this tomorrow……

R405

What tweet did he like?

R396 What an absolute twat.

R409 This one!!! Ironic seeing s we were just kinda discussing this!!

I think he liked that quite a few hours ago because I remember seeing it shortly after Freddy shared it on his Instagram story, but anything is possible. The freedom day is quite controversial

R408 Also, if that's the setting sun, shouldn't he be saying "there goes the sun, doo doo doo doo" (I'll see myself out..)

R406 But I've now just spent entirely too much time watching and comparing his video from yesterday and today's pic, and yes, given the "notches" in the hills, I'm going to agree that's still Cape Cod. However that means the place he's staying is on the west coast and those hills that jut out are to the north of him! Anyone want to try to find it??

R413 Haha! Yes, he really should! Didn’t someone say earlier, wish he’d put this shit on his private IG?!

I started trying to look around Truro Hills but we don’t know if FL was just on a day trip there the day before. I eventually gave up as too many places to look without more clues. I put a call out to any Cape Cod experts but nothing so far!

Of course in other news, Flo is apparently no longer in Cape Cod.. And that cinematographer he followed today (who didn't follow him back???) says she's LA based. . . dammit I'm confused again..

R409 He liked a tweet from Freddy that said “ Keep wearing a mask for the sake of everyone who doesn’t have the privilege of pretending this is all over.”

Damn, I was way too slow in posting that. Lol. Y’all are on fire today!

Maybe it’s a pregnancy announcement 💣 little darlings

R418 Ha! With the amount of alcohol the Ho has been swilling? That alone is reason to hope not, nevermind mind every other reason already covered herein.

Well if he’s going to spring this on us hopefully he’d have the decency to get someone else pregnant besides her lol that exorcism wasn’t enough to fix whatever demon spawn she might produce. But really he’s probably just living the simple life out there with his sun and necklace

R415 Oh, I’m slipping in my sleuthing, I forgot to check if they’d followed back!

R418 R419 If there’s an announcement of any sort regarding that female, take me to the river. I’ll drown myself along with the fangirls!

Is it too much to hope that she’s hooked some Russian oligarch while she was husband-shopping?!

Russian oligarchs have too much taste for her. I think at best she can probably hope to be the first wife of a formerly nerdy and desperate tech bro with a large but volatile fortune that he over invests in crypto while they are experimenting with psychedelics to upgrade their energy

Hmmm.. just wanted to point out Flo was in the same spot last year. . .

Hmmmmmm..

Why do I feel like that story was for her birthday which is tomorrow?

Well wasn’t brooks at her last birthday party last year. That pool party at her house. Ben wasn’t around then, so maybe he won’t be around this time as well.

I’m guessing the private IG with no follows is a decoy to throw us off his trail, and there’s another, real private IG account out there. He also prob left this decoy as a test to see how quickly it was discovered, and he pinged with follow requests.

R424 Unfortunately it smacks of that. I’m trying to tell myself it’s not but…. Wonder if all this emoji, song, sticker shit is his version of going public? If so, then stop inflicting it on us and fuck off to your new private IG (R426, yes I think you’re right).

R425 BL well out of the picture this time, last year they were still ‘reconciling’ at that point. I sincerely hope BB is not pining after this low rent empty-headed twat but I’ve got a nasty feeling in the pit of my stomach that he is.

Of course, this could all be BB’s attempt at wooing her back. Sincerely hope it doesn’t work.

R423 Well spotted!! I floated that out there in R390 and I think you’ve just confirmed it.

That dress she is wearing in those stories she wore in the pap shots a few days ago. I think those were prerecorded. BB is silent. I really think they are together.

Idk if they are together, but you can see the flowers in ninas pics that are in those stories. I think you are right those videos are not from today. If we get a cover from him about love today I will throw up.

You know what I wish? That she’s having a par-tay for all the cool kids. And he’s not invited.

R430 Definitely pre-recorded. And if he posts a ‘Lurrrrve’ cover today, surely he knows that’s not exactly gonna be keeping things on the downlow? Intrigued to see what happens. I think he might just go radio silent again. With him, you never know whether that’s telling or not.

Hmmmmmm.. So Georgia is the most recent follow on Flo's Insta, checking backwards she has directed a music video before, and she's posting pictures of Sunday titled "Rise Up" with Ben's most recent cinematographer follow that he liked.

I swear. . . I'm getting closer. . . .

R433 Good spot! Ties in exactly with his ‘Rise Up’ and music notes sticker on his story. And Benji’s liked it. The clapperboard doesn’t give any details of course, but it says the shoot was 18 July, daytime and interior.

Hmm… Rise Up and what, exactly? Sprinkle sparkles around and be kind to unicorns?

Well, if it is his music video rather than some commercial venture and if our Flo’s in it - and there seems no doubt she will be - there’s gonna be outright war in the fandom!

They were bad enough when he posted a 15 second IG story with her. A music video with them (probably) kissing and/or fucking? Head to the nuclear bunkers, people!

R434 Following on from that, that name should have rung a bell… BB’s been following her for a while , since around the same time he followed Westworld and FL. She’s followed him back for a while too, but Chiké for even longer.

Love it how the fangirls are like we should support him if he is happy and this thread is horrible for speculating about JH, then he is seen with a woman who we all know has been in a relationship for years, Ben said they were working together on a shoot (so she is not his girlfriend) and they freak out and give her hate. 🙄

You know if BB just posted a happy birthday my dear friend than all the speculation would die because he confirmed they are just friends. It’s like he likes the drama of being known as a home wrecker.

R435 Ben and Georgia have been friends for a very long time.

R437 He's confirmed that they are just friends many times. The thing is, he's a liar.

Could he be doing a video for a cover of Andra Day’s Rise Up? Totally the vocal stylings he’s drawn to. Plus some luuuuuurvvy lyrics.

R440 That’s a good guess but if it is a music vid, didn’t he say his album was going to be original content? You’d think if he was paying for an actual vid he’d make sure it showcased his own material. Ah who knows, just release it already BB and stop being so damn mysterious.

R441 Could’ve sworn someone recently said he *wouldn’t* do original, as he’s not a songwriter. So unless someone provided him with original material to record… my guess is covers.

R440 Just read the lyrics (heave) yes that’s totally his style. Maybe it’s a birthday present for ‘someone’.

He said he was doing original songs that he has been writing for the last couple of years.

R442 He said it on a recent live, I can’t remember which one now, that he’d been working on this famed album and it contained original content. Someone here might remember which interview.

R442 Ben previously said a while ago that he didn't think he could do "blank page" material, however in the S&B interview where he said his album was complete, he said it was all his own original content.

Self-deprecation? Lies? Desperation induced inspiration during lockdown? As per usual with Ben, you can never know what the truth actually is.

Could it be a variation of this project that was likely put on hold due to covid? Maybe she has switched from staring in it to directing it or both? The “single camera” line and the fact that it sounds like something BB would be interested in make me think so. FL seemed to only be there for a day or two in between traveling with her mom and going back to LA so maybe she is just making a guest appearance, but I think Ben has been there for longer, starting with his first sunset pic at the beginning of this month. It also sound like it could have a modern day When Harry met Sally “soulmates” vibe which is why he’s using his old private account and various hearts to send hints to his ??? (We need a Ben equivalent to swifties, I suggest for Ben’s barnacles)

R439 For shame Sylvia, Ben is a perfect angel, he would NEVER lie to his fans! He loves and appreciates them as much as they love and support him! They're sure of his honesty! He definitely cut his own hair while hanging with his girlfriend for New Years, he said so!!!!

Of course for me, the most utterly *hilarious* part of all Ben's lady troubles lately is even I know how much the fangirls ***HHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTEEEE*** Floriana. I know it because they *flooded* Ben's pages with their hate back in Punisher2 days. There's no way Ben didn't see any of it, it was extreme and constant. So Ben knows how much they hate her, and he chose to shove it in their collective faces by first (probably) choosing her for his project, and then calling her a wonderful person as he squeezed her awfully tightly in an embrace like they wish he would do for them. At least for Punisher2, it wasn't his fault, he didn't cast *HER* as his love interest. But if this truly is his project now? He absolutely DID. Choose. Her.

Because Ben does not give one single fuck what you think or want fangirls!!! He does not actually care about you At. All.

R447 Hmmmm… interesting, very interesting. That could definitely be a possibility.

R448 And wasn’t his biggest fan page the ringleader in all that, or am I misremembering?

R450 I would not DARE risk the fangirls' wrath by saying which is his Biggest Fan, but yes, A LOT of the biggest and most utterly obnoxious ones are prime players in the We Hate Floriana fanclub.

Oh I just got it! Ben finds you just as repugnant and obnoxious as I do and THAT'S why he's rubbing this in your faces fangirls!! Oh this just got even better. . . .

Wow, if this album contains Ben-penned lyrics, we’ll have PhDs in literary analysis in record time.

They call me a liar Little old Benny B But anyone can see My pants are only on fire For youuuuuuu Jules

Wait so maybe that story is from today as there is a fan pic with her and nina and it says from today. So if they are together in that castle than BB is not with them. Am I correct in that conclusion? Thoughts? So she isn’t back in the states?

Also one of the few times if ever I think I have seen her in a mask.

R447 Of course it's a possibility, I obviously have no idea. But the only Aye I can think of in support is Ben said he found a RomCom that he wanted to do this year but the timing wouldn't work.

The Nays in no particular order are this says it's a series for ABC. It doesn't say limited series, so that should be 22 episodes ("11 episodes" if you count they're actually only a half hour long) and that would take a LONG time to film. They only just started filming and 8 eps of S&B took over 6 months. Unlikely. If this was something official like that there should have been an announcement before cast and crew are posting anything at all from the set. ESPECIALLY if Disney (ABC) owns this show! Unlikely. Also don't think Ben has been there all this time given that he seemed to be watching the Euro match from his house, some of his recent social media activity took place in late night if LA time, but would have been over night if east coast, and Georgia was apparently doing studio work in LA after the "sunset pic" you mentioned and was having brunch with friends just fiveish days ago. All makes me think unlikely.

Though I would just like to mention, P-town just issued new mask guidance given the massive covid outbreak going on there even amongst the vaccinated. And Truro, Flo's location tag from Saturday, is apparently about five miles away. Well at least Georgia and the cinematographer were wearing masks in their photo. *rolls eyes*

R453 Are you able to link it, please? Just for the novelty value of seeing HoFace in a mask. I have to say I’d be ecstatic if she was still in Europe, but I suppose that doesn’t mean to say she wouldn’t fly in friends & family to party with her.

R454 Yeah, the other most famous occasion being that damn pap walk (it still makes me sick to think of her ott flirty fucking performance).

R455 Kudos to them for following the guidelines.

R453 JH and Nina are together, not back in the US, Ben is not and has never been secretly with JH in Europe, yes sometimes JH does the shockingly weird thing of rewearing a dress while she’s living out of suitcase(s) on vacation, and no Ben and JH are not in a relationship. It’s time to move on or migrate to a thread dedicated to JH because this is just getting embarrassing in a way that an anonymous thread should make impossible lol. Yes with her level of social media visibility and general reputation there will always be some mental gymnastics way to tie every little emoji and song lyric and sunset to her, but just because you can doesn’t mean you should put yourself through that. It’s over

R457 Hallele-fucking-lujah

Idk the silence is sus. Her not posting a million stories of people praising her for her birthday, sus and I don’t trust silence from Benny anymore.

R459 If she’s still in France (please some link the fan pic) then she’s par-taying at the moment. She’s probably wrecked.

R460 Here you are.

Plus, Ben is obviously silent today because he now has exactly one month to go until he turns 40. Panic must have ensued. Poor baby.

R461 Thank you for the link. Wow they truly are wearing masks. The fan probably had to show them how to put them on though. Nothing posted by either of them tonight as they’ve met a couple of hot French guys and Nina doesn’t want Shaun to know she’s cheating on him.

Haha yes … panic stations! Alarms and sirens going off. I’m not surprised he’s silent, we know this is his m.o. Gives the fan girls a couple of crumbs … back to radio silence. I can’t remember him ever publicly wishing his little buddy a HB before with a post or story, so I’m just glad nothing’s changed.

Really intrigued to see what this project is now so I know whether to stay off Twitter or not.

Alright. . . I mentioned before that Flo had posted pics from Truro last year up thread. And honestly, that video from Ben seemed to be way too tropical looking to be Cape Cod to me, but I've never been so I wasn't sure. But this pic? That's a proper palm, not one of the cold hardy varieties that *can* grow on the cape.

Do we think we're still sure they were ever in Cape Cod? Or did we just assume because of Flo's picture tag? Did they randomly film there for two days but are now continuing in California?

I have growing doubts.

R460 yes they are still in France and with some random guys who like to praise them like the guy’s story Nina shared in hers.

R463 I also thought it looked too tropical it reminded me more of Hawaii not just because of the palm trees but the other tropical plants on the hills. And now that pic looks like dry California

R462 he posted a cute little “happy birthday angel” on Amita Suman’s bday post yesterday, but for the most part he doesn’t seem to be a big bday poster. I know this thread would have a meltdown if he said anything like that on JH’s posts

R465 Yeah weirdly enough it feels like he spends more time wishing random people he's met a HBD with a story of a pic of them together, but his actual friends??

Oh wait, that would be a public admission that he actually has any friends. Right, that all has to be kept strictly private. Silly me.

Can you imagine being so scared that people might find out who you're *friends* with?!? Is there literally *anyone* that Ben is proud enough of that he could admit to having them in his life?

I don’t know I guess I’m basically the same way with my HB posts without meaning it. Like if it’s a long distance friend I haven’t seen or talked to in a while I might post an old pic or a comment and wish them happy birthday, but for my closest friends and people I see regularly I would call them or wish them a happy bday in person so then also doing something on social media at that point would seem to just be for attention. Also if I were a normal person and friends with Ben I would most definitely NOT want him posting anything about me just to have the fan hive storm in and all this speculation. So it might be more out of respect than lack of pride in friendship…

There’s like a 10 second delay between appearing on any BB related social media and having your life, follows, career, acquaintances, location, life choices, and emoji preferences picked apart on a BB DL thread LOL yeah no thanks I’ll take my happy birthday in private or not at all

R463 You definitely have a point. Yes I think we did assume it was Cape Cod because of FL’s post but of course she could be doing the same as a lot of celebs and screwing with her timeline. Maybe it was Malibu like someone suggested? And aren’t the other two based in LA too?

R464 Haha I said that as a joke but now here’s the proof…they’ve met some boys! That guy describes himself as an entrepreneur. Maybe they really are trying to introduce their swill into France!

R467 Yes I tend to do that too. And most normal people would definitely not want dragged into a fan/stan scrum.

And Benny Boy, if you’re not actually at home I’d get there quick, I think it might have been trashed lmao.

R468 Well in DL's defense, had we been picking apart every aspect of his life and the people in his pictures before he chose to fuck The Ho and become a COVIDIOT? Am I misremembering last year and the decade before? Cause I'm pretty sure SHE is where everything really started.

Oh and where are my manners. . . Happy birthday HoughMonster. Thanks for exposing Ben's private life and ruining his public life for him. I've never had more fun tearing into both of you because of it. Cheers.

Why all of you are acting like the hate FL gets is baseless? Are you ok with sexual abuse and shaming victims? Because that’s what she did. Plus, 99% of her roles were meant for women of color

R471 Where has that been said in the threads? I believe you’ll see comments about his choice of friends and how the shit’s gonna hit the fan particularly if she’s in his music video if that is what those Rise Up project is. I believe that most people on here ‘love’ her as much as we ‘love’ JH. And that’s a lot of ‘love’. I’ve always ‘loved’ how cosy and cuddly BB’s always been with FL.

If 99% of her roles were meant for women of color then how is that her fault and not the casting directors? And how do you know they were meant for women of color? Her role in the punisher didn’t seem to require any specific race in the context it was written and I doubt all her roles have been open casting so curious how would even know what they were originally meant for. And who did she sexually abuse? I hadn’t heard that before

R350 each to their own, yes we're chattin shit and having an opinoin on random stuff and all things BB just like any other forum in the fucking world and this forum by far is not the worst! So jog on and live happily ever after in your JH and BB married life fantasy!

R351 I think old Barney is messin with us and having a good old laugh playing the DaVinci code with us trolls...which im up for playing Ben😉im enjoying our little cat and mouse game! If they were ever to do a remake of that film id happily vote for BB to play that lead!

[quote] And who did she sexually abuse? I hadn’t heard that before

She was (is?) in a serious long term relationship with Casey Affleck, who was sued for sexual harassment by two women with some pretty strong accusations. Guilt by association. (That's not MY opinion. I find FL too boring to muster up an opinion.)

[473] If she played a woman of color once I’d get it but all the time? She knows it’s meant for women of color so that’s her fault. In The Punisher her character was meant for a latina, which she is not… like most of her roles. She didn’t abuse anyone but she dates/dated a sexual abuser for years and went far enough to shame his victims and call them liars, that’s why she’s an abuse apologist. The way some of you talk about the fanpages totally passes off as like you think they’re crazy for not liking her.

Let’s not even start with the fact that FL loves to pretend to support the LGBTQ+ community when she’s a scientologist herself

[R472] It’s just a bit suspect how some of you talk like people are nuts for disliking an abuse apologist and someone who steals woc roles for a living when those a very good reasons to dislike someone

I’ve been reading those threads for a long time now, after BB’s montanagate it’s been a constant and I’ve never seen any of you saying a word about FL, but I’ve observing the way you talk about people who hate her… the fangirls are nuts but if they hate her for that reason they’re not wrong -this is actually the only thing I agree with them. Her own (former) fans called her out and got blocked, some of them were threatened to get sued for saying anything about Casey. FL is awful.

R476 That still didn’t answer the question….how do you know any of these roles were MEANT for a Latina? Particularly if the casting details aren’t public. Not sure if you know how auditioning works but it’s up to the casting director, showrunner etc for who is selected for a role, the actor has no power in the decision. Also not sure how you are using the term Latina. If the role was looking for someone with Latin origins or that could reasonably fit into a story line of being the daughter of immigrants or something then having Latin European heritage (she has stated she is a mix including Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, etc) is technically fitting especially considering the historical ties between Latin European and Latin American countries. It’s not exactly the same as casing a white person in a role meant for a black person. And I’m sure we have all had friends who have dated people we don’t like but I’m not sure what that has to do with Ben. Was he supposed to quit the Punisher season 2 because his coworker was dating someone who may or may not have done something bad in the past? Have you guys ever actually held a job? That not how normal adult professional and personal friend ships work lol

R480 So you’re telling me that FL is mixed with all kind of whites (Spanish, Portuguese and Italian) and still see no problem with her playing latinas? Latinos are born in Latin American countries, this has nothing to do with her being mixed with white, white and more white… when she plays Mexicans all the time. Ben has nothing to do with it so I don’t know why you brought him up when I didn’t, I’m exclusively talking about FL and the way some of you pretend like she’s the best

Perhaps Ben will post something today, so we can get back to discussing Ben Barnes in the Ben Barnes thread, and not analyzing/discussing ad nauseum the careers & sexual partners of women in his friendship circle.

“Ben has nothing to do with it” yet you are ranting and raving about FL on a Ben Barnes thread? Why can’t you just start a separate FL thread if you want to talk about this so badly? I don’t think anyone is pretending she is the best or worst on here it’s just not relevant to get into the casting decisions of casting directors in Hollywood when she made a 2 second appearance on Ben’s stories

R482 Good because I’m tired of seeing some people in this thread invalidating other people for hating an abuse apologist

R482 Good because seeing the way some of you invalidate people for disliking an abuse apologist is exhaustive

R481 you still have produced no evidence that any of those roles were actually “meant” for Latinas and your comments on whether she is purebred enough to play a notoriously ambiguous definition of Latin when it comes to race and ethnicity is actually extremely insulting to mixed race people in general. Go hangout on one of the many threads discussing racism and sexism in the entertainment industry and take your ignorant and irrelevant self off this Ben Barnes thread

R483 Had so say something about the borderline abuse “apologism” from some of you… I’d say the same about people bringing JH up here all the time when she’s not even with Ben anymore

R484 Valid topic in a thread NOT about Ben Barnes. If we want to go down the moral highground path based on peripheral, ancillary relationships to Ben Barnes, why don’t we discuss Holocause deniers since Ben’s mom is Jewish? Why don’t we discuss the evil of Nike towards its female athletes since he wears sooooo much Nike clothing? TAKE IT ELSEWHERE.

R486 Why me bringing up FL playing latinas are so offensive to you? It’s a bit weird, I’d say

R489 playing latinas and being an abuse apologist and me pointing out how awful she is*

R489 Why is staying on topic in a Ben Barnes forum so offensive to you? Go hijack some other thread.

R488 Because the last things you talked about were about Ben and FL and how people are nuts for disliking her. Don’t play dumb

R489 Because we’re not acting as apologists for her but you’re determined to say we are. Bug off bact to the Twitter hate groups.

R491 I’d say the same about you bringing JH up all the time, also weren’t you talking about FL too? I didn’t know I’d piss her secret fans so much

Awww, someone’s had a ‘long, cold, lonely winter’. That says a lot for your company, BB!!!!

Not as long, cold, and lonely as some people who’ve had friends or family members die on them. Selfish twat.

R493 then stop acting like you are abuse apologists too. And no, I won’t go anywhere as long as I see any of you defending her like Ben fans do to him

R496 FFS WE ARE NOT DEFENDING HER!!!!!!

Go get some comprehension tutoring cos you’re reading things WHICH HAVENT BEEN SAID!!!!!!

Well, JH just quoted ‘Here Comes the Sun’ Soooooo… now they’re channeling George Harrison to communicate to one another through social media? I think Dhani Harrison is single, and he lives in LA. He’ll New Age your ass outta these threads, Jules.

R496 no one is defending her we are simply asking you to substantiate your claims with evidence and explain why this subject belongs on a Ben Barnes thread and your can’t even do that so you are irrelevant to the discussion here. Seriously why are you trying to make up stuff people said here when there’s an easily verifiable record of the statements made here, none of which match what you are claiming we said. Why can’t you go talk about FL on a FL page I’m sure there are many

R496 Summary for ya: Not a single person has defended FL. What several people are doing is asking you to take your FL obsession to a different thread. No one here shares your off-topic obsession with FL.

R498 Oh yes… but what a line to choose from it (see R495)!!!

R497 Why are you so angry? R499 Some of you were clearly making fun of people who dislike her and have a very good reason to do so. I just had to point out how it looks like, you know, when you make fun of people who are against abuse. That’s all. Just had to be said

R495 Of course she’s using the “here comes the sun” line to try to maintain appearances of being secretly linked Ben to remain relevant on DL. Can’t have FL taking all the thread activity from her

R503 Lol. She’s trying to get her IG engagement up by inciting both the DL and BB’s rabid fans to comment on her posts since her bought followers don’t.

You would think by now and with all her antics around Europe she would have at least found a publicity target with greater reach than Ben Barnes even if she can’t manage to snag a rich husband. BB only just recently broke a million followers on one platform and has a relatively niche fandom of bookish fantasy lovers and whatever collection of lovely random people hang out on this former “is Ben gay” thread, no not really her target market or reach for any of her endeavors. I always thought he was just a target of opportunity for her and a nearby fun quarantine fuck to fill in the time between workouts and social media posts

R505 Agreed. Tbh, she’s prob specifically baiting him, and seeking his attention again. Now that the excitement of yacht parties & Cannes has past, it’s BAU snd she’s seeking adoring attention from a previously known source/supplier. Narcissism 101.

R502 I’m frustrated not angry. Firstly, that’s the very last thing I’d personally be doing. Secondly, you keep insisting that we are defending her or making fun of people who don’t like her. We are not.

If you re-read the threads and apply the proper context you will see we are laughing at the *whole* situation from a BB viewpoint.

In equal amounts, we are both laughing and annoyed at the fact that he, having had numerous little bumps in the smooth road of his public persona so far this year, has chosen a controversial person to appear in whatever this project is. You will see “he doesn’t give a fuck what his fans think’ comments because that’s how it looks to us.

He knows we don’t like her or JH and he just doesn’t care, he’s still friends with them so let him get on with it and take whatever backlash that creates. We already know he didn’t like the heat he got after Montanagate but he still didn’t get out of the kitchen. No doubt he’ll just do the same when this all blows up in his face.

You’ll be pleased to hear I’m finished commenting on this ridiculous allegation that we’re defending Ms Lima.

R506 She’s in Portugal now, not quite over the ‘Grand Tour’ vibes yet. He probably sent her the sunflower bouquet (hence his IG story) and you’ll note she doesn’t say who sent those. Then she’s in a field of sunflowers and quoting Here Comes the Sun.

But - crash! down comes that fantasy - she quotes *that* line.

I feel like that’s an insult to him right there! ‘Here I am frolicking about in a whole *field* of sunflowers, you loser, go fuck off with your tiny little bouquet of them. I’m husband-shopping.”

R508 And in the time it took me to read a few posts on here and write the above, he’s liked the post, the dick.

The baiting of JH with that video right after his story with that song and the fucking stupid tiny emojis, I’m so done with her and honestly both of them! She has been traveling for over a month, that must be costing so much. If this is some secret signs they are giving each other I just once again want to throw up. Him liking her posts again, furthering this shit. So right he doesn’t care about his fans or anything. Like I said before selfish!

R510 At least one person called her out on the Covid travelling, and another (a BB fan) asked her if they were speaking in code. And told her to go off and get a Greek god, lmao.

No doubt those comments (and any others I missed while speed scrolling) will be deleted soon.

Dear Ben - should you be reading this thread and think it‘s funny to feed the trolls with emoji bs etc, think again. You are upsetting your faithful fans too, they are following this as well, those who are willing to pay for things you produce. You can be friends or lovers with JH, I don‘t care, but don‘t endanger your career by riling up people who probably know more about you than you‘d like and in the meantime disappointing those who loyally support you. This thread comes up very early on Google for you, and you have a lot of presence through S&B at the moment, so don‘t think your antics will only be noticed by the few active posters here. If you‘re not reading this and all of that stuff is purely coincidental I just wasted 1,99 on you.

R510 That was me who called her out on the Covid traveling.

It‘s like an addictive soap opera. You just google Ben Barnes after watching Shadow and Bone and two weeks later you find yourself still reading this forum thinking OMG I see it too now, how stupid can one single actor get? The porn girl account was bad karma imho for just this shady shite.

Ha love karma and love how the fangirls are commenting. The truth it always comes out eventually, let’s see how many will love our Benny then.

Well, probably 70% of the posters here are those same fangirls, starting a fire to extinguish it on instagram.

Why do I get the feeling this formerly obscure BB thread on a site most people haven’t heard of has suddenly gone main stream lately? And yes there may be more trolling on here than other places but you all wouldn’t be here if you weren’t all mostly fans and R512 is correct it is very easy to find now and there are definitely people here who know Ben better than others. I don’t think he’s intentionally trolling his trolls, but if so he will soon learn that playing stupid games wins stupid prizes. His desire for privacy his valid and respectable and hints about professional projects can be fun for people to speculate and figure out, but if all this stuff is actually related to a real or fictional relationship with JH he’s playing with fire and it might come back to bite him. We shall see

Check. Their. TAGS!!!!!

It does not all have to be about JH - but after the girl account follow and unfollow, when he was alerted, he defo realised what was going on here. It was even announced on this thread that a post would be coming after the semifinal and boom: there was the lionheart. Just like the sunset and name and heart change on the Harry Burns account were immediate reactions to whatever went on in here. Just too many coincidences. And everybody can read it and follow up on it on Instagram because the fangirls save every story and every post ever made like an encyclopedia. Must be weird to have all the downsides of boygroup-style-fandom without the upsides of real fame.

I don’t have Instagram so no not everyone here are those same posters. Also most of the trolls on here are proud of their work and link it. Unlike Benny b we have nothing to hide.

Would love if these threads became more prominent. A few threads back I had to dig to find these.

Well, since we know he keeps up with his reviews and iMDB, etc, it’s a safe bet he reads this thread. So Ben, hi! We would love to get back to liking you. But a lot of your behavior & life choices are akin to a teenager or early 20s who has no awareness of the impact of said decisions. The company you keep calls your question into character— this holds true at any job, public or private sector. And this is a group that wants to hold you accountable for having a private persona in hypocritical juxtaposition to your public one. It’ll only get worse if & when you achieve the level of professional success you crave, because with that comes heightened scruitiny.

(This site needs an edit function, FFS)

If someone wants to keep their privacy private, fine. But don‘t toy with people who are impacted by you. You chose a profession were people will be impacted by you and the way you handle yourself and they will react. Especially if you are aware of the scrutiny. You can whatsapp, signal, smoke sign, drum, phone, videosnapchat with JH and all of your female friends. But Instagram is public and meant to be public, and if you act as your blue hook account, it‘s all on you what you do there. So stop the bullshitting please. It‘s upsetting and alienating the wrong people. Maybe even potential employers, friends or lovers. Everybody is an internet stalker these days.

With the both of them this whole thing has been a year and a half full of pap walks, cover songs, emojis, liking posts (never professionals successes of course), and friends and family unfollowing and following. All the while she is vaca flirting with other men, sounds like the best relationship ever. So jealous that everything has to be in code and now for BB even the ones that liked you are now starting to hate you. JH and BB you guys are doing really great! Totally redeeming her image after her broken marriage and a divorce that brooks never wanted.

Yes even the intellectuals he would certainly want to be associated with will sooner or later google BB gf or gay and be dragged into the vortex and start wondering.

Did you guys see her story that said song change? My phone isn’t playing it. Did she change the song? They both be reading these! Fangirls keep those comments up.

Since they have been friends for eight years they might think it‘s a good laugh to get this forum all hot and bothered. But let‘s repeat, it‘s Cindy reading this, it‘s your neighbor and it‘s Quentin Tarantino too.

I hope they keeping laughing when she is getting more hate posts of her in black face. Happy birthday JH.

How stupid Ben and JH are for still trying to get some buzz over their failed fling? Because have your racist past and covid travels brought up every time when they’re desperately trying to avoid them isn’t worth it

R530 having* ughhhh

Tom Hiddleston is just around the corner lokifying all the fangirls. There won‘t be another SB season for eons, and with Delta, no Emmy nominations, and Netflix stock going down, who knows what the future holds. Get a grip, man, even if it was fun at first to troll. Now you are just looking like a pathetic DL lurker who does not get the internet, Ben.

In my fantasies of Benji, he's on his knees with my cock down his throat. I'm holding him by his hair and fucking his face hard. He has tears running down his face and his cock is so hard it's dripping, but I won't let him touch it, because he's my little bitch. When I let him have some air, he begs me to fuck his asshole, so I tell him to bend over and present himself to me for my approval. Then I spread his tiny cheeks apart and ram my cock in his fudge hut, and he screams in ecstasy and shoots his wad while I fuck him hard until I'm ready to come, then I have him open his mouth and cum all over his face and have him clean my cock.

R527 I don’t think she did change it. I read that as she quoted the HCTS line in her post but then attached ‘Let the Sunshine In’ to the story.

To think how FL has unnerved the Gals, what will sunflowergate do to them? Paying audiences, Ben!

I mostly agree with you all but also how sad would it be if those hints Ben was trying to drop were actually related to his new project just like he has done in the past with things like hinting at his audio book, then JH independently happened to pick that song and bam now suddenly people think it’s related to JH and are furious about it when it’s actually not lol. I definitely think that song change is related but who knows if it’s trying to correct an accidental misunderstanding created by a poor song choice at the request of Ben or if they see the negative backlash and are trying to correct it.

This forum is more entertaining than anything Ben has ever been in so I can understand the temptation. But not good.

Ok, so she changed the song to Let the Sunshine In. So she knows she triggered a shitshow. She should update the post, too. BB was probably like Hey, you! Get off my cloud!

She changed the song in the story, not in the post which he liked after she changed the story. It‘s still there.

R533 I used to think like you do, but now that Ben is an elder....well damn, I can't even say he's an Elder Gay now, can I?? Anyway, now that he's a 40 year old sun and smoke damaged washed up has-been and not a creamy complected twink, my cock just wilts at the thought of him.

Alas!

I don’t think you can edit a song in a post after it’s already there. She would have to completely delete the post and we know she isn’t going to do that

The only reason I paid 1,99 is that there are young girls out there who are reacting this shit, who are suffering. Especially if JH is just a friend. You want fame? Respect your fans. Don‘t make them sick and sad because you want to take the piss out of some ol‘ gay bitches.

R539 I still can’t believe she chose that line to quote. Firstly because of all the suffering *other people* have been through with this pandemic, and as usual with her, it’s all about Meeeee. And secondly as mentioned it’s not very complimentary to BB when he spent part of it with her.

I’ve been down the rabbit hole and back, with all the emojis/hidden message shit. Let’s face it, it can be pulled about and made to fit whichever scenario we want to suggest.

If you want to think they’re still together or are hooking back up, I just think it’s telling that she’s out there partying and posing and air kissing and all that shit and he’s stuck at home singing his hidden message covers as usual and posting IG stories with emojis. Get back on your private IG ffs.

If you want to think he’s promo-ing this Rise Up thing (featuring another toxic female) then yeah, that fits too. He’s definitely been a hint-dropper in the past (audio book recordings springs to mind). I wish I’d paid more attention to his pre-S&B posts, as I didn’t notice any little eclipse emojis at the time but if so, then that sets a precedent.

I can’t make up my mind whether it’s a music video for him or a short for the two film-makers. Or totally something else.

Just get the damn thing released and we’ll at least know what all that was about.

R542 We get it, you're the Joan of Arc of BB fans, sacrificing your $1.99 for.....what was your purpose again? To keep Ben's fans from being sad and disillusioned? That's Ben's job hun. He's in this position now because he's had a lifetime of fangirls covering for him and doing the heavy lifting.

Anyway, I'm not an OLD gay bitch. I'm middle aged, just like Benji! And I can't believe that he would still bear a grudge for us calling him a Bossy Bottom for all those years.

I am a woman, and I will say this: If a man I’m fucking looks like that and is sweet on me and is good (or better than good) in bed, I’m keeping him on a short leash. So either his package is deficient, he sucks in bed, or he’s one clingy/suffocating motherfucker.

I have a feeling he won’t let anyone get close to him. Just uses them for what he wants and then bolts. Typical fuck boy behavior.

R518 Now I see it (couldn’t at the time) - thanks HRH, that made me laugh!

R545 R546 I think that you’ve both got good points right there. But now he’s turning 40 and maybe regretting it all? For a hot minute.

R542 wait first of all welcome but I’m a little confused about what they are reacting to because it seems like a lot has happened in the last few months/year. Was it the FL stuff that pushed them over the edge? Or did some of them just find out about Montanagate as a result of finding this thread? Or is it the latest secret message stuff? Just honestly curious

R549 I suspect they've got whiplash from the FL post then the JH "here comes the sun" coincidence stories right in a row. But I actually don't see where the upset fans are. I checked a couple of big fan accounts, and one had a little snark about FL but nothing on JH, and of course BBG and her followers are still all up on their "BEN IS AN INFALLIBLE GOD" bullshit in lockstep.

So where these tragic fangirls at??

Fuckboys don’t travel to Montana for double date vacays during pandemics, or do restaurant brunches with your friends. They expend bare minimum effort & keep the non-bedroom activity under wraps and to a minimum. Booty call on speed dial, if you will. So I suspect that he leads a somewhat inflexible life due to long location shoots, and while he wants something steadier/more stable, isn’t ready or willing to commit prematurely to cohabitation or marriage in order to achieve that. The secretiveness absolutely does not help, as it doesn’t foster security or confidence in what is there. That’s my take.

R551 Yeah, I think he thought he was onto something round about Montanagate but the Ho wasn’t invested at all. She used him from day one and he was stupid enough not to see it.

R550 I think some of them have group chat equivalents on Twitter where they let it all out and have little wars with each other about BB and what he’s up to. And I saw at least one tweet with replies which was vitriolic about FL. Some have definitely found DL too. They are definitely aware.

I saw some comments on JH post that were then deleted. She deletes all negative posts.

R550 R552 R553 Forgot to say, there’s stuff on Tumblr about him, JH, FL too.

Looks like she deleted this one lol not from me but I thought it was funny so I saved it

R554 Got any links?

R555 Yeah that was the one I spotted (see R511). I knew she’d delete it. Think her social media minion must be on holiday too as doesn’t seem to be liking/commenting on every damn thing.

R554 Sadly not but from memory I think one of the Tumblrs might have been called sohoharlem.

R556 Sorry got the link wrong in the last post! Try this?

R556 And this one just as an example.

Oh shit. They also think he has shit taste in women & has made some crappy life choices in last few years. Outside of the JH bullshit, enlighten/remind me as to his other poor life choices? The Tumbler said 2.5 years, which predates pandemic by a full year…

R560 Yes, these conversations are taking place evreeeewhere. I think that must refer to his choice of the S&B role instead of a ‘proper’ job!

Why do people think S&B isn’t a proper job? Just because it’s fantasy? Maybe it’s just because I’m a fan of the genre but I think Game of Thrones, Westworld, and the eye watering amount of money Amazon is pouring into Lord of the Rings has gotten rid of the notion that big budget fantasy/sci-fi shows are somehow less prestigious than movies. First season shows usually have cautious budgets and don’t get emmy’s but Netflix is definitely investing in S&B at the expense of some of their other shows. If you look at the graphs of how many people watched the first season of GoT vs how many watched the last you will see why streaming companies chase that kind of trajectory and potential and the first season is just about building momentum. It was relatively well received before they even got into the fan favorite content of the other books. With the tech giants like Apple and Amazon investing in this space (especially the MGM acquisition) data is going to become a much bigger factor in how decisions are made and speaking from the inside, this increased chatter across a variety of platforms is actually doing him more favors than harm. So keep it up little darlings because we are all still secretly rooting for Benny B as the underdog James Bond pick.

I think it is more the basis of the show that people feel it is not exactly a leg up in his career. The fact that the content is more in line with twilight than these other epic fantasy’s dramas. It did well, but honestly I don’t see Netflix giving it more than two seasons. Honestly there are people who will watch anything on Netflix. If we weren’t in a pandemic, idk if it would have done as well.

Benny B as James Bond ha. He is not cool enough and the A listers will have way more of a chance than him. Now he has aligned himself with an influencer/reality tv star and not some A list actress, or even someone respectable, that doesn’t make him popular in those circles. I was still seeing that Candice pic in the happy birthday messages to JH, people really think that is her. Those models are more connected to those bigger projects than BB. He had a chance and made stupid decisions because he is insecure and I’ll be surprised if he gets past the old man in fantasy dramas with problematic content concerning young woman and older men phase.

R562 100% agreed. S&B is a hit and has raised his profile with a new generation, so nothing to sneeze at. BB from 2015 onward is an entirely different actor, IMO, than pre-2015. But it would be great to see him bring these acting chops back to the big screen in a quality role. And I think he’d be a great choice for Bond.

R563 Exactly what I meant. It’s not the genre as such - far from it - I think it was the character, who just seemed faintly ridiculous and not a good pick for him - ok, he’s a general but that name - The Darkling! It’s so… euuwwww.

R563 Ah but you see that’s exactly the point, he’s not an A lister. Daniel Craig was relatively unknown before they picked him for James Bond and that was for a reason and they are expected to do that again. Having a womanizing bad boy persona with pretty but vapid women isn’t exactly a knock against bond potential haha

R566 Having a womanising bad boy ‘but really I’m a good boy cos my mama says I am’ persona LMAO

Next Bond will be political. Gay or black or a woman.

I think a POC has a better shot than BB. Times have changed. This isn’t 2006. Also Daniel Craig had huge movies, Oscar nominated films, under his belt before Bond. He might have not been a household name, but the industry knew him which is all that matters. Studios could care less about fans, otherwise Amber Heard wouldn’t be shooting Aquaman 2 right now if they cared.

SB is big, and because of it he should get a bloody PR manager who tells him what a like means to 20 year olds today. That girl account follow was a close call. Cancellation looms at every corner these days.

The James Bond producers have already said publicly it won’t be a woman. I do think Rege-Jean Page has the most obvious chance of getting it and I think he would be great, but Amazon is about to own James Bond soon if all goes well and believe me we are very used to operating outside the boundaries of political correctness in favor of disruptive growth and success 😉

R568 R569 I think you’re right. Benny Boy has missed the boat on Bond, I fear.

R570 Never a truer word. When you think that his IG following (bought or not) only really mushroomed in the past 7 months, he’s still stuck in the dark ages IMO. Has he forgotten there are people like us who will check and see what posts he liked and what accounts he follows? I truly think he does sometimes.

For Bond you need to go all the way. Paps everywhere, talk shows, private life galore on the Graham Norton show … I see Luke Evans.

R571 Haha yes there is that of course! BB better start sucking up to Amazon.

If he wants bigger roles he has to get his social media under control. Those cover songs may be cute for the jubilating fangirls but I wonder how many of the Daren Criss Gang are secretly sneering at the face pulling and the body bending. You know whatta mean.

Something completely different. Isn‘t anybody concerned at all that the next SB season will still be shot in Hungary with that new anti-LGBTQ law? With that show being so diverse, Jessie a she/they, several gay plots and gay producers? I‘m outraged at that.

R576 Have they confirmed that? I thought they might go elsewhere, the new laws and all the Covid shit on top of everything else. Did you see that there are athletes at the Olympics that have had to withdraw and/or self-isolate as they’ve got positive tests? And Netflix have already had to have short delays on two shows (Bridgerton being one of them) due to positive tests amongst the cast?

Things ain’t what they used to be, folks.

But one thing never changes - BB’s IG awol moments. C’mon guy, drip us the next few hints.

Is it just me or does GMK seem a bit too enthusiastic for this project to be a BB music vid? Beginning to think it’s one of her projects rather than BB warbling stuff for 3 minutes. Whatever it is I hope we’re not getting a reprise of TP S2 between BB and FL as that was heave-worthy, I hated that whole storyline. And if BB thinks there isn’t going to be any backlash for that pairing… well, I think he’ll soon find out that isn’t the case.

Leigh Bardugo wrote in her newsletter a few days ago that casting for extras happens in Budapest.

Did JH send those bouquets to herself coz she tagged her own accounts.

To me the whole Montana story plays out like this. Benny home alone (not in London) for xmas. JH takes pity because she leeeeeaaaned on him, tells him they fly private and no problem they are in their own lil house and then they all wanna got out for dinner and KARMA hit. And since the Montana story only came up after the papwalk, Bennyboo had a fit and Nina and Shaun got annoyed but JH can‘t drop him like that after all the egotistical leeeeaaaning.

Hey, if Chris Evans survived uploading his dick pic and Guard That Pussy/Chris Evans meme, then BB’s porn account follow wasn’t that big of a deal.

Fangirls on twitter going crazy because Netflix Geeked disrespected Ben somehow (which I don‘t see really) but they want it cancelled. Already a new video is in the making I swear.

R582 Yeah I’ve been wading through all that stuff trying to figure it out but I haven’t. I think they said they ‘stan’ Malina and there are a lot more Darklina stans out there.

The Netflix Geeked acc reacted harmlessly to a post that said Ben looked like Jessie‘s dad by posting three skulls and now the fans think that it was an ageist slur against Saint Ben. I don‘t envy him for those stans. No sense of humor whatsoever.

Yeah the children seemed a bit riled up. He does look like Jessie’s dad, it’s creepy. Also knowing in real life he is old as fuck and they are taking bts pics of him right in her face. Creepy, just no. We all know Ben likes them young, but just no.

Ouch. Well, he’d have a better handle on 40 if he hadn’t dragged out his 20s for an extra decade.

I actually think he only gets them young. When I watched the Westworld group interviews I always thought he had a thing for Lisa Joy and him liking most of her posts now… well … but the elder ones probably see the manchild that he is. His older co-stars like Heigl and Reevah etc treat him like a puppy.

R587 Because women of the same age as him who are moms recognize that he’s putzing around like an overgrown child.

I don’t know when 40 became old as fuck lol but he still looks like he’s 30 and probably attracts younger women. I’ve been dating 40ish year olds since I was 25 though so I guess I just grew into my taste over the last decade haha but I think BB has only really become attractive in the last 5 years. He was too pretty before that. I also thought he had a thing for Lisa Joy especially the way he talked about her writing. Most of his costars who are his same age like FL and Heigl and Revah were all in relationships or married when he worked with them but at least they are all friends after so he can’t be that horrible of a human that some people here make him out to be. It seems like he’s more comfortable with that age group or older like Lisa but can more easily get the younger ones

R587 Yeah I noticed he was liking just about every one of her posts. Thought he might be angling for a spot on WW4??!

R590 I think so too and the (at least) two random BB appreciation posts from various HBO social media accounts seemed to be hinting at something but nothing has been announced yet

I don‘t think he‘s a bad person, I just think he‘s bad at his PR and still trying to be popular with the cool kids. Which never works.

I’m not sure why, but I have it in my head that I don’t see him partnering with someone who already has kids or a kid. I could be basing that on absolutely nothing of substance.

He said in some interview that Golddigger made him think about what if some has kids already but that there are priorities and blabla. Very romantic.

R587 R589 I always got a ‘schoolboy with favourite teacher’ vibe between him and LJN. He’d need to be careful not to upset Jonathan if he *was* simping over Lisa!!

R594 Ah yes, he was trying to diplomatically tiptoe around it the topic of a woman who already has kids. I think he also said he like to have his own kid(s).

R595 haha yeah getting on the wrong side of the Nolans would definitely not help his career

Well, dude, if it‘s love, real love, all of that doesn‘t matter. If they have kids, or don‘t have them, or don‘t want them or can‘t have them. Seen it all. So many couples who did the kid thing and it broke them apart. So just roll with it and stop searching for the ideal female for breeding, just find someone who enjoys being around the real you. Amen.

So this is getting dangerously close the the limit in record time…will a new thread be started or is this the end of the BB DL saga for now?

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