Richie Jackson says "openly gay" is an offensive term and we should only use "out" instead

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How terribly homophobic. I look forward to next year’s midterms. Goodbye.

Go with a classic. "Avowed Homosexual" is my preferred appellation.

We are a LADY!

Nope. Gay is forever.

Shut the fuck up, homophobes.

If I'm being honest: while I don't argue that it accurately describes some people, I never liked the phrase "openly gay" either. But I've never been closeted. So perhaps that's the reason I find it cringeworthy.

He seems far-left to me. So no thanks. “I’m gay”. “I’m openly gay”, “I’m out”—stop policing gay men!!

For this we beat Hitler? Talk about a pyrrhic victory!

It’s hard take anything serious from a grown person who goes by Richie, so I’m just going to ignore this.

"Straight" is an offensive term to describe any non-gay sexuality.

Richie Jackson has too much time on theys hands.

I prefer “avid pianist”

It’s fascinating how “openly gay” is offensive yet “queer” is all over his twitter. I guess he’d need to explain that rationale to gay men who were beaten to death and the last thing they heard was “you queer!”, not “you openly gay!”. But, meh. He’s woke and I don’t listen to the woke. They are all just noise.

Then maybe we should start doing the same to breeders.

I prefer Senator.

I think it's become clear that too many people have the ability to share their opinions in this world in too many ways.

Very few opinions are worth hearing.

Very few people are worth hearing.

Very few people, in fact, is what I long for.

[quote]He’s woke and I don’t listen to the woke. They are all just noise.

Oh, my! THAT was broadly stated.

Is this the one formerly known as Blanket?

He's right. Its super lowkey and often not intended to be offensive at all, but its one of the terms that can be, that can't really be reclaimed either. Again though, its SUPER lowkey offensive and you often wouldn't be able to detect it.

The words together are not offensive. But its a very correct that when its branded onto us, constantly, it leans towards insinuating that those who think it is shameful, have something of a point. 'Openly gay' isn't the words said in hushed whispers or such, but its giving the homophobic sector of society an implicit sway. He's correct that if we MUST use ANY word, its a better idea to use 'out' - a word decidedly not associated with public shame but gay power.

R13 Doesn't understand the social power dynamics. Queer definitely is an offensive word, and to this day these 'woke' people you complain about would often shun people who use it with scorn. Its also a claimed word that queer people decide to reinvent its purpose into something of celebration. Much of it started amongst gay people: we're here, we're queer, get used to it. Its not as generic as 'openly' and 'out' and it'll be used to target us so we may as well make it our sigil. Its not a lot different from women embracing their 'bitch' and black people augmenting the n word to 'nigga' for THEIR use. We know people want to use it poorly against us, so we make it a blessing that they're flummoxed others won't join in on bashing us with. It is working. More are out than ever, and more are accepting than ever, generationally, and queer is not dirty to so many youth including and especially straight youth. Its all in different ways (be careful about bitch, and do not say the nword), but its all about reclaiming power. Its an offensive word now TO bigots. Queer Studies scares the shit out of them.

R19 is a low-key homophobe. Word salads defending oligarchic bullshit about "generational shifts" to defend the normalization of hate speech are the signs of a low-key homophobe.

Loosen your fichu, R20. R19's post is almost entirely readable and makes perfect sense.

(Sigil? Really? That's obviously not going to be widely understood.)

I agree R13.

Oh jesus fucking christ. 'openly gay' vs 'out' ... basically the same damn thing. Use whichever you prefer or feels right to you...but to brand 'openly gay' as something truly offensive? That is the sign of someone with WAY too much time on their hands.

R16, I'd say marry me but I respect you too much.

Anyone who calls the word "gay" offensive will be canceled.

This homophobic motherfucker needs to lose his job pronto.

We need more shame!

Idiots need to stop policing everyone's language and get real jobs instead, like a garbage man or shoe salesman.

The headline is definitely questionable, R25. They knew what they were doing with that headline and they know people don’t read.

I wish I could get a job with the Language Police, R27.

From now on the acceptable term will be ”wardrobe” and not “closet” so we aren’t shunning are clothes holding furniture as well.

R29 No you don’t, the benefits blow, vacation is limited and no pension.

The opposite of straight is crooked. Therefore, calling heterosexual people straight is homophobic. From this point on, "straight" people will now be called "non-gays". If it's good enough for the T, right?

Sorta' right .... we don't say openly a drinker,

Actually I can't think of a better word than "openly". Maybe "candidly" gay?

How about FABulously gay?

How about hole-presentingly gay?

How about “confirmed bachelor”?

"Gay" is a shitty term to use. It's nearly meaningless when applied to homosexual men and women.

At 64 years of age, I will remember when this 'community' was struggling decades ago to find a post-Stonewall word that would be generally acceptable. 'Homosexual' being too clinical. 'Queer' being, at the time, as yet unreclaimed. And on and on. There was a lot of discussion and debate before "Gay" finally won out. I never liked it, but I adopted it because I had no choice. That's the word the community finally seemed to settle on. I feel it far too lightweight. It has no stature, no substance, no gravitas, and we deserve better than a word that, in my opinion, is just only a small step better than "pansy" or "limp-wristed." As usual, it was the assimilationists that wanted a 'respectable' word to name our community. Middle class morality is a powerful thing. But not always in a good way.

When "Queer" began to be reclaimed, I embraced it. "Gay" has a diminutive quality that is just embarrassing.

Does he mean "out gay" is ok? Or is both the "openly" and the "gay" part "offensive".

R38, you're a homophobe. The q-word is a slur. It means abnormal and disordered. It will never not be hate speech.

This is also the network that employs Joy Reid.

[quote]When "Queer" began to be reclaimed, I embraced it. "Gay" has a diminutive quality that is just embarrassing.

Queer means weird. It's a negative word.

You think happy is worse than weird?

How does that even make sense?

Calling gay people the q-word is incitement to violence.

I prefer "ylnepo yag".

People who prefers "Queer" over "Gay" are ideological loons tranny defenders.

I've seen more rational and civilized behavior from Warner Bros. cartoon characters, R45.

From Merriam-Webster, defining the word "queer": differing in some way from what is usual or normal

Perfect. Better than Gay.

Nope, that still means "abnormal." It's a slur, and you're a homophobe if you defend it. Fail, fail, FAIL!

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You all don't seem to understand that being a homosexual makes him an expert on this subject!

He's a self-hating tool of the oligarchy, R50.

You now he's married to that wretched creature Jordan Roth? That thing is an embarrassment to the LGBT world. Also his father is on of Trump's best friends.

Queer:

Noun

[quote]strange or odd from a conventional viewpoint; unusually different; singular:

[quote]of a questionable nature or character

Verb

[quote]to spoil; ruin

Yeah. Perfect. If you're a fucking asshole.

Does anyone remember "Doing time on maple drive" that made for tv movie about the family and there was a gay character? It came out when gay wasn't that common on network tv so of course I watched it.

The son comes out as gay and the dad gives him this patronizing speech where he says "I don't like the word gay. It's a good word that has been used for something it isn't. You're a homosexual" or something along those lines.

That always stuck with me, and I think of it whenever anyone says they don't like the word "gay".

Don’t fucking tell me how to describe myself.

We prefer gay.

"Noted homosexualist"

Denizen of the twilight world.

Richie Jackson is correct.

He was a rotten basketball player.

Openly gay is a stupid term but it isn't offensive. It's really weird when phrases like "first openly gay Senator" is used; yeah there was probably a bunch of closeted homosexuals over the course of U.S. history but if they didn't identify with the community can we really call them gay? I doubt Lindsey Graham thinks of himself as gay.

Queer is supremely stupid, especially when used to refer to Lesbian and Gay people as a whole. Some people are comfortable with the word but a lot are not, it should not be applied to someone unless they want it to be.

"Openly gay" is only offensive to closet queens.

Open is a synonym for “out”.

I think these sorts of things are just a product of twitter giving everyone with an opinion a platform, and the media sucking it up because it’s clickbate.

At one time queer and faggot were very powerful words…they were used to hurt and instill shame…they were co-opted into Gay vernacular to rob them of their power…so that when homophobe straights used them against us….those words just didn’t hurt anymore.

Those words are still hurtful today, R64. They will always be slurs. Anyone not offended by them is self-hating. They are incitement to violence.

Throw this, “queer”, “non-binary”, “LGBTQ+++”, the “progressive” Pride flag, and “furries” into the woke noise bucket.

Oh and “trans”.

I'm on R32's side. Hell, I was on R32's side before R32 was!

Sure, fine. Let's all be EXHAUSTED together.

At least she said that [italic]Golden Girls[/italic] episode pulled for blackface wasn't blackface, R69.

I don’t know about y’all, but I’m just a person. It’s not like I say, “oh, Bob and Mary - they’re my openly straight neighbors. I’m not saying that declaring someone is “openly gay” is offensive. It’s just not necessary.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Oh, was that OFFENSIVE?

R64 they are still offensive. And yes people can claim they are "reclaiming" them but they don't speak for all of us, and they use them as perjoratives (like on Twitter, the f-slur is still used as a slur) so I think there is some internalized homophobia inherent in people who use them today.

And "queer" is offensive AND meaningless because it's been applied to everyone in the word salad so it can even mean straight people!

R71 I'm offended by gays who use "y'all".

I’m offended by the offended…

I'm offended by cocks that are smaller than 7"

"Openly gay" honors and enables the closet. This guy is "openly gay" so we can talk about him. But the other non-openly gay men who we all know about... we can't talk about them. We sure as hell can't write about them in the media.

At this point in history, hiding in the closet like Lindsey Graham is offensive. So is the term "openly gay."

I prefer "fag".

I prefer the more direct route...I like the cock!

According to Luke Sissyfag the only way we can overcome is when we learn not to fear word and each of us is delighted in who and what we are. Then the foolishness of our century will have had us giving apology where no offense was given.

[quote]Richie Jackson

who the fuck is that cunt?

[quote]I prefer "fag".

I’m sure this woke gay man, and the woke gays, and the woke people will prefer it one day too.

But you can’t say tranny.

"trans" will be declared offensive eventually, too.

I have already declared everything other than homosexuality offensive and will continue declaring it so.

Well, what do the remaining living Jackson 5 have to say about it, after all Michael was there brother too?

Not cool, dog. Not cool.

He is wrong about why we use X was the first openly gay person to do Y. We need to qualify that so-and-so was the first openly gay Oscar winner, because they likely weren’t the first gay Oscar winner, but rather the first to be out of the closet at the time of winning.

If someone comes out 20 years after winning their Oscar, that’s an important detail.

He's full of shit.

This sort of parsing is mentally ill.

DLers, when adding posts like this in the future please provide the language police badge number of the subject of the post.

Team first amendment. I'm tired of a few deciding what they think is politically correct and trying to shame the rest of us into using their terms.

[quote] Anyone not offended by them is self-hating.

Fuck you. Someone left me a voicemail on my office phone calling me queer a number of years ago and I LAUGHED.

Self-hatred is no laughing matter, R91.

Look at how progressive R91 is, everyone.

[quote] Self-hatred is no laughing matter,

Oh, really? Maybe I just don't give a shit what other people think, or say.

Is that what constitutes being progressive in 2021, R93? Being okay with hate speech and violence against women?

R95 What did R93 say that related to violence against women?

The same people responsible for the normalization of anti-gay hate speech are also to blame for this:

[quote]Oh, really? Maybe I just don't give a shit what other people think, or say.

There’s that very common gay apathy.

[quote]Is that what constitutes being progressive in 2021, [R93]? Being okay with hate speech and violence against women?

Yes.

And this is why we get shit like this trying to have it both ways:

I prefer to be called "fierce".

Anyone who claims not to care about what other people think is not fooling anybody.

Unapologetic cocksucker.

I prefer”Practicing Skin Flutist”.

I knew Richie when we were in our twenties. He was a sincere guy, very engaging, and promising.

What happened, R105?

Jordan Roth I guess.

I prefer sodomite!

[quote] How terribly homophobic. I look forward to next year’s midterms. Goodbye.

Honey, this midterm shit you keep pushing is baloney. Try something else.

R90: Richie Jackson isn't the government, you moron.

R110, keep trying. Maybe you'll get it someday.

The First Amendment was used by R90 figuratively and effectively. It has nothing whatsoever to do with actual government application of the First Amendment.

Both terms are idiotic.

was Ritchie Jackson one of the Jackson 5?

[quote] Anyone who claims not to care about what other people think is not fooling anybody.

Why would I care if someone thinks I'm gay or calls me queer? As I'd tell them to their face, it's their problem, not mine.

R11: keep trolling. Maybe someone will fall for your bullshit someday.

The First Amendment was used by [R90] incorrectly and ineffectively. It has EVERYTHING to do with actual government application of the First Amendment. It ONLY applies to government. There is no other way to evoke it. R90 is uneducated and so are you.

^Oh, dear. R111 is the poster being spanked above.

don't we just say 'Top' or 'Bottom'