WHET the Reardon Boarding House?

I was staying at the boarding house when a semi truck transporting a house crashed into the boarding house!

Crazy time! Scary time! Bea gave all us boarders free rent for the night because of the commotion.

Bea had the hots for that manly Henry Chamberlain.

I used to dream about Tony showing me a lot more than his kicks.

Tony was such a stud.

R4, agreed!

I want to be the center of a Tony/Kelly Nelson sandwich.

When was the last time we saw Bea? Was it 1988? Or did she come back for visits after that?

R7 I remember she was there for the first year or so of Chelsea's run.

Boarding house? Really? I simply couldn't.

Tony Reardon made me hard - down there.

R10 is Alan Spaulding posting from the grave .

They're all small potatoes compared to me.

Between Tony and Jim, those Reardon boys were strapping and beautiful.

Why did Tony and Annabelle leave town?

I was obsessed with Rusty Shayne’s feets.

R14 Because Tony was caught getting sucked off by Louie Darnell at the Springfield Rest Area.

Well, Katie Parker was the biggest f*g hag in Springfield.

Speaking of Katie -

Invite me to your event so I can complain for 3.5 hours about how awful everything was on THE Guiding Light!

So what did Denise Pence do after GL? Anything noteworthy? Ya gotta love how all these great talented actors were fired mercilessly but never went on to do anything noteworthy. Ellen Parker included.

[quote] So what did Denise Pence do after GL? Anything noteworthy?

Denise and her husband BOTH receive two sets of royalties from "A Chorus Line" as they are in Tier 1

So they don't have to worry about money

[quote] Tier 1

Whatever the fuck THAT means.

Denise and her husband were the inspiration for two of the characters in A Chorus Line, so r20 is saying they get royalties from that .

R20 thank you for the translation.

And I guess they’ll get a wheelbarrow-full of royalties when the Ryan Murphy miniseries version of A Chorus Line comes out which will actually go in depth on those taping sessions.

WHET Katie's brother Floyd Parker, aka Tom Nielsen who was married to Lisa Brown for a while?

On the show he ended up being the character that killed someone (I'm forgetting who).

He killed Andy Ferris

Don’t you want to know how I ate out Jennifer Cooke?

oh yeah

He became obsessed with Beth Raines and Andy Ferris created the explosion that blinded her so…Floyd was pissed at him.

I thought Phillip was behind that explosion?

(this is RIGHT when I started watching so it's a little fuzzy)

Philip hired Andy Ferris to set off the explosion.

The original explosion was that Grant would take his Pendulousness out and splash it into the ocean, but they were fearful of a tsunami and decided on an explosion instead

His dong gets wet all the time because it hits the toilet water whenever he sits on the shitter.

I still laugh when I think of Grant teasing CB with him going to gays bars

I’m the one who heard the story first-hand from my ex who was on set at the time. It was relatively early in Grant’s tenure on the show (spring 1983) so Bernau, although quite aware Grant was straight, understandably had the hots for him.

[quote]The original explosion was that Grant would take his Pendulousness out and splash it into the ocean, but they were fearful of a tsunami and decided on an explosion instead

LOL!

Yes, GL had to be careful not to destroy all those sets via a tsunami.

I can just see it now: Chris at home, in his short smoking robe, waiting on his queen sized bed for Grant to walk in and pound him into next week.

Nola's machinations to snare Kelly were pathetic, given that anyone could see that Kelly was as gay as a Christmas tree ornament

[quote]anyone could see that Kelly was as gay as a Christmas tree ornament

That wasn't quite as obvious in 1980 as it is to us now 41 years later.

And we all knew that Hillary was a dyke.

I can remember sitting in front of our old behemoth basement TV, seeing an episode with Kelly in his swimsuit walking around.

Still my own shooting record for distance and velocity that day.......

This brings back such wonderful memories of the late 70s. I was a lifeguard one summer in high school and took a little TV to work with me every day so I could take my break during one of the half hours when The Guiding Light was on. I can’t tell you how obsessed I was with the Kelly, Nola, Morgan triangle.

I ran into John Wesley Shipp in a locker room in Philadelphia (when he was playing Brick in a regional production of Cat on. Hot Tin Roof) about 5 years later. I told him how much I loved the show. He was polite but didn’t wax poetic about the experience. Maybe he just didn’t want to talk to me, an obsessed fan, in a locker room of an almost exclusively gay gym. I still think he was the most beautiful man who ever walked the face of the earth in his GL days.

Sometime soon thereafter, I saw him dancing at a gay bar. But he was with a group of men and women, so I couldn’t be certain he was gay.

I wonder how many hundreds (thousands) of gay men have walked up to John Wesley Shipp and told them how much they loved seeing him walk around in a speedo on GL.

I am among those who told him that one of the times I met him.

I'm sure he's tired of hearing it by now.

You met him, dear Liz?

(Goodness, Freud is with us...I initially typed "You meat him?")

How divine!

Yes, Donna dear, r45

Several times over the years while he was still living in LA. JWS sightings were actually fairly common in those days.

I may faint, Liz!

Go away Serial Nutjob!

The only nutjob here is Susan Stewart, toots.

I met The Pendulous One but was way too shy to say/ask much.

As Marsha Clark said during the shooting of the Morgan/Kelly nuptials-“First wedding I’ve ever been to where the groom has bigger tits than the bride.”

MARY!

Nothing was good on TGL after they dropped “The.” Oh, and I am a loser.

Vetsoapfan, SON’s resident loser, wanted all fat people except for Fat Reva on his TGL (what a loon). He wanted fatties Bert, Ed, Mo, fat writers, fat producers, and a fat name by keeping “The.”

TGL had the most obese cast in daytime!!! Vee is in the biz, you know. THE BIZ!

Alan Sarapa is a hottie! Watch his interview along with fat Dee produced by Nellie Bottom. Not to be missed!!!!

When is Queen Locher interviewing Eileen Fulton?

I just watched a few Another World episodes (from 1983) and really enjoyed Stephen Yates' portrayal of Jamie. I was young during his run so don't remember him. I only recall Laurence Lau and Russell Todd's versions -- neither of which I found very exciting.

This made me wonder about why it seemed so difficult for writing regimes to create strong, lasting characterizations for the sons of daytime's best divas. I'm talking specifically about Jamie Frame, but also Shayne Lewis (GL) and -- though not a P&G soap -- Viki's Lord's two sons, Kevin and Joe.

Shayne finally got some heft toward the end of the show's run when they cast Jeff Branson. He was great and seemed like a Lewis -- I loved him with Josh Newman. Yet before that, the character was either off canvas or adrift. Viki's sons were played by so many actors there was little consistency in their characterizations and portrayals. My favorite Kevin was Dan Gauthier (Tim Gibbs may have been sexy as fuck, but he WAS NOT Kevin Buchanan). DL fave Nathan Fillion is the one true Joey.

Are Dumb Dylan and Vee rebooting GL? Vee is in the biz, you know. Will vetsoapfan force them to add “The” to the title and cast Fat Ed Bauer? Has Dylan (the idiot who doesn’t know his theres, theirs, and they’res) thrown himself into traffic because Mark Grossman didn’t get an Emmy nod?

Truly the best soap opera around involves Dumb Dylan and Vee, who is in the biz, you know. Vee ordered them to drop The from TGL.

Finally found this thread!

Who was the idiot who decided Jamie should abruptly switch from being a writer/publisher to a doctor?

That would be Maggie DePriest, r62, who also killed off Sally and Frankie Frame (she came back in 1996) and wrote out the Matthews and Ewing families.

Not surprised, R63. She was one of the worst ever hacks to be in the rotation on soaps. She had zero respect for the history of the shows she worked on.

She's practically Irna and Agnes rolled into one compared to some of the shitty ones we've had in the last 20 years.

VetSoapLoon loves all the fat and homely P&G HWs.

Making Jamie Frame a doctor certainly came out of left field, but it opened the character up for more storyline possibilities since he could be involved with hospital and medical plots.

Having Jamie as a writer limited the story possibilities. I mean, Phillip Spaulding was a writer for a while but they ended up moving him over to be a Spaulding exec.

Hell, romance novelist Felicia Gallant also ended up being manager of Tops, a talk show host and countless other things.

Wasn’t Irna controversial because she would spitefully kill characters off?

[quote] Romance novelist Felicia Gallant also ended up being manager of Tops, a talk show host and countless other things.

and she hosted her talk show in the middle of Tops - a restaurant!

[quote] Wasn’t Irna controversial because she would spitefully kill characters off?

Well, I don't know if that was controversial as much as the way it was done. She was the Head Bitch In Charge.

Why. did they fire Fat Ed? I want TGL back!

nooooo

Let's list boarders at Bea's Boarding House. Kelly, is that where Nola met him?

I hated the Reardons. They were never TGL material. I luv Fat Ed Bauer. He put the “The” in TGL.

How many soap characters have been talk show hosts? On the P&G side, we have Felicia Gallant, Kim Hughes and Reva Shayne (and I'm sure there were more). Dr. Marlena Evans hosted a radio show and Jennifer Deveraux also had a talk show. Let's see, there's Leanna Love and Erica Kane, Pat Ashley, Dorian Lord, Melinda Cramer and Tiffany Hill.

R75 Luna on OLTL hosted a radio show.

If reporters count, Brooke English was one (anchorwoman?).

Gilly Grant was a reporter - and I think she did some sort of talk thing, or on the street reporting. .

My girl Gilly could do it all - write it, report it, work it all day and go out that night to sing Straighten Up And Fly Right looking like Sade and Anita Baker's younger sister!

More talk shows:

Tad, Ryan, Hayley amc Sam gh Hillary & Mariah yr

R67, I disagree. Jamie could have been grioomed to head up Cory Publishing after Mac died. There would have been many storyline opportunities branching out from that.

Alan Sarapa, Twitter’s most ugly soap “critic” is saying that he doesn’t like the new EJ on Days’ looks????? What the fuck. The ugliest gross person Sarapa is not in a position to speak about anyone’s looks. Soap critics are at an all time low. Look in the mirror you ugly fuck Alan.

r81

The pics don't do NuEJ justice... he looks much better in this vide0

NuEJ is FINE looking!!!! Alan Sarapa, not so much. He’s fucking UGLY!!!!!!!!!

Please ignore the mentally ill person at R81.

As for nuEJ, he can be discussed further here:

Vetsoapfan likes everything FAT. Fat Ed Bauer. Fat Bert Bauer. Fat soap families. Fat soap writers. Most importantly he loves fat soap names like THE Guiding Light (or TGL). Most people love the beautiful, slim, skinny name Guiding Light (or GL).

Erica Kane also had her own talk show, which she co-hosted with Tad Martin

Vincent I has said they’re going to bring Lujack back when he returned in 1991. Has anyone said what the story was going to be? I’ve heard rumors that they were going to say Infinity faked his death to extort Alexandra later on. The details get fuzzy here but the organization falls apart leaving Lujack in this jail in another country. He reads in a paper Beth is alive and breaks out to be with her again. Philip and Beth were already gone. They could have had Phillip break his parole and go to jail with Beth returning.

Vince has said on his Locher Room interviews that he was in talks for many months to return to GL before they finally reached a deal and brought him back in July 1991.

I suspect that when they first started talking to him, Phillip and Beth were still on the show. However, in late 1990, both of Grant's parents died within a few months of each other. Grant has said he felt overwhelmed by so much loss and told the show he was going to need some time off to mourn his parents. He asked the show to wind down Phillip's storyline and write him out. So, GL accommodated him, marrying Phillip and Beth and sending them to Arizona in Feb. 1991.

By the time the deal with Vince to return was done, Phillip and Beth were no longer on the show. Since Lujack returning without Phillip and Beth around wouldn't make much sense, they brought Vince on as a new character.

Robert Hogan (Vince, AW; LJ (Larry’s dad), ATWT) has died.

Aw.

Thanks Aunt Liz. I know that story but I’ve been curious what they initially had in mind for a Lujack return. They wouldn’t have thought about it without having a story in mind like how was Lujack alive. That would have been a helluva story and would have coincided with GL hitting on all cylinders by mid-1991.

[quote] Vincent I has said they’re going to bring Lujack back when he returned in 1991. Has anyone said what the story was going to be? I’ve heard rumors that they were going to say Infinity faked his death to extort Alexandra later on

[quote] By the time the deal with Vince to return was done, Phillip and Beth were no longer on the show. Since Lujack returning without Phillip and Beth around wouldn't make much sense, they brought Vince on as a new character.

Actually there is more to the story than bringing Vince on as a new character, since Phillip & Beth were no longer on the show

Guiding Light producer Robert Calhoun was the one who initiated talks with Vince in 1990. At the time, Pam Long (who created the character of Lujack) was still writing the show

There was alot of back and forth between Vince, P&G & GL team as to story. They did have a story in mind, then suddenly Pam Long quit, and Robert Calhoun followed Pam out the door as well.

And a whole team was put in place of Guiding Light. So the whole deal fell apart.

It was only after Guiding Light had a talent drain of leading men leaving the show (Grant Alexander, Michael O'Leary, Robert Newman) that P&G approached Vince again and then finalized a deal.

Was Robert Calhoun ever in talks to bring FatEdBauer back to TGL?

R93 P&G approached Mart Hulswit TWICE when Peter Simon vacated the role of Ed Bauer. Both times he declined

P&G also approached Carl T. Evans to reprise the role of Alan-Michael in 1996, when Rick Hearst left after six years. He also declined

At SON Eeyore Negative Depressing Carl misses TGL. Dumb Dylan was born after the show was canceled.

Dumb Dylan has been absent since his love Grossman got engaged. Woe is me Carl is worried about him. I’m just worried why TGL dropped The from its title. I’m still not over that.

still can't believe Nick and Beth NEVER interacted

Or Nick and Phillip.

R97 Somebody should have been executed for this. I know Vince left the show when Beth came back but in 12 years since Beth’s return in 97 to cancellation you couldn’t lure him back for a Lujack return or Nick/Beth?

No other show would have allowed such egregious history to be ignored. At least up until then. Beth/Nick would have been 🔥🔥

Someday I'll do a long list of the things they forgot or overlooked and publish it.

Harley came back in 1997 and they forgot that Dinah and her were close friends until about a month or two before Wendy Moniz left the show. So many missed opportunities - it could drive you crazy.

[quote] in 97 to cancellation you couldn’t lure him back for a Lujack return or Nick/Beth?

Vince was on "All My Children" under contract from 1997 until its cancellation in 2011

R102 AND HE WAS GREAT!!! Though he was off of AMC from between 2006-2008, when I guess GL could've lured him back.

[quote] Though he was off of AMC from between 2006-2008, when I guess GL could've lured him back.

With what, two nickels and an extra Guiding Light t-shirt laying around somewhere?

[quote] Though he was off of AMC from between 2006-2008, when I guess GL could've lured him back.

he straight to "The Young and the Restless" from 2006 to 2008 - and when he left that show, he went straight back to All My Children from 2008 until its cancellation in 2011

So no matter what, Vince was under contract on various soaps, so there was no way GL could lure him back

R105 I mean if they had really wanted to, they could've tired at the time Y&R got him. But, like R104 said their budget was so low at the time they probably couldn't have competed with Y&R.

When GL couldn't lure Carl T. Evans back in 1996 you'd think they wouldn't go from aiming so high to scraping the bottom of the barrel the way they did. Michael Dietz was as awful as they come. I remember his debut was in some dumb Fifth Street rally scene and I actually snorted a little when they had Alan-Michael 'stand up' to Amanda and Alan.

Why didn’t the show add “The” back to the title? It would have lured millions of us back!

R107 Carl T, Evans was just not interested in returning. GL made an attractive offer, but by then Carl T. Evans was focusing on a career as a film maker

R106 At that time GL was so low-budget, I doubt they could afford Irizarry asking price. Plus the character of Beth had changed so much, it wouldn't make sense to bring back the character of Nick McHenry

I've said before I never got to see Beverlee McKinsey's Alexandra Spaulding, Marj Dusay was my original, and I enjoyed Dame Joan Collins short take on the character. But, I liked Dusay and Irizarry's chemistry as mother and son on AMC more than on GL. Maybe it was because Vanessa was allowed to be just plain evil, whereas Alexandra was neither good nor bad.

Bev was so lazy. She never wanted to work. She was known throughout the industry as a complainer and not a team player

The downfall of TGL started when they dropped The. I knew then that the show would be cancelled.

R111 Bev was indeed lazy. She left Texas for the exact same reason. Over worked. Imagine only getting 8 weeks off a year and not working more than 3 days a week. The poor dear.

I stopped watching in ‘05. I heard the show was really good in ‘06. It won the Emmy for Show that year. I tuned back in when Phillip came back. The show looked better. Some of the outdoor scenes were stunning at times. What ruined them more often was the terrible bluegrass/country songs they HAD to play over every scene when none elevated the scene.

The show was good the last 9 months. It seemed like GL again.

Robert Hogan was always a handsome man, but he'd aged pretty well. I had no idea he was 87!

I don't remember if I ever watched VI and Marj as son and mother on GL, but they were fantastic together on AMC. Even though many of their storylines were ridiculous, as most of the AMC stories became in the 2000s, they sold it.

I don’t understand when people say Beth (Judi’s version)was weak with Philip. While he was her “knight in shining armor” Beth didn’t need him as much as he needed her. That was made clear over and over. She fought through being abused (and then raped) by her stepfather with determination and grace. She then moved on from Phillip when Mindy got pregnant with lightening speed when she started dating Lujack. I think we see her as stronger with Lujack because she was tutoring him and was the aggressor in going after him. She also broke him out of jail then gave herself sexually to him. She was overused on the show (her and Reva were on 4/5 days a week in 84/85) but I always found Beth interesting and a bit fascinating.

Beth was definitely overused and Beth always reminded me of whatever role Molly Ringwald would play in a movie.

If Beth was the Molly alike on GL then India was the Ally Sheedy role - in much more glamorous clothes of course.

But you're right R117. The idea that Judi's Beth was a victim isn't really correct. She did have her struggles but she was a pretty strong woman by the end of Judi's run.

Agree to disagree. Beth was interesting and I liked both her and India.

India wanted Beth’s clit. India was a dyke. India was Never believable with men.

We always talking about Beth or Reva or others since being overexposed or being tired of them......

Can you imagine watching in the 60s and thinking "ugh, do I have to look at that dour cunt Bert Bauer AGAIN??!???"

Or "Is Rita going to fuck EVERYONE in Springfield?"

R121 Beth had good story so I didn’t mind her being on a lot. She was hugely popular.

Judi's Beth had classic story.

When Beth and Alan fucked.....just NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Interesting

What the Pendulous One said:

SIDEBAR:

The Women in Phillip's Life

Who They Were and What They Meant to Him

>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<

Beth Raines (Judi Evans)

Beth was the love of his life. She was the kind of person in which he could reveal all the things that he was uncertain about himself. She had a way of making everything seem all right about him. He didn't have to make excuses for himself, she accepted him for what he was. And loved him for all those things. It was the unconditional acceptance kind of thing, and he loved her. She was just a very wonderful character. And very strong.

Mindy Lewis (Krista Tesreau)

Mindy is the kind of woman that Phillip does not take seriously because she is the obvious choice. It's the old, you've got money, they've got money, you both belong to the country club so you should be happy together. And that's the kind of woman that Phillip would never invest enough of himself in to really see if there was a possibility for a relationship. Phillip is one of those characters that craves depth.

Chelsea Reardon (Kassie Wesley)

That's the toughest one. The Chelsea/Phillip relationship was written from the standpoint, "okay, so we got these two and Grant just came back to the show, and she's not with anybody, so let's just throw them together and see what happens." I think invariably when you do that, you end up short-changing everybody. Ultimately, I think they ended up with two people looking at each other and saying, "yeah, it was all there, for some reason or another, but it wasn't meant to be." But I think there is a lingering fondness.

Blake Lindsay (Elizabeth Dennehy)

That's a confusing one to me. I'm trying to work it out. That was a relationship that was born out of the [writers'] strike. I'm asking a lot of questions right now trying to get an understanding, because I really don't know. Pam Long (the headwriter) wasn't happy that Blake was developed during the writers' strike, because she had plans that didn't get to be brought about. She now knows she wants the characters to be very much in love. But there are so many other stumbling blocks that they have to get through. Now we are at the point where we are trying to figure out how we can make certain things work. Because we have to play a love and a trust that story-wise is not yet there

Somehow we missed that Grant turned 60 last August. Maybe it was the pandemic?

Otherwise we would have had a week long celebration: SIXTY YEARS OF PENDULOUSNESS! Or something like that.

Grant has a dirty dong. It hits the toilet water.

Grant has been with the same woman since his college acting days

and he is an animal activist - so I guess he can't be too bad.

I really like Beth. I actually thought it was entertaining how every man in SF fell in love with her. I saw it as a running gag with the writers. Saint Beth was right but she had an edge to her I liked. Watching those YouTube vids of her and Bradley going at it shows her edge well.

Grant is a kind person.

I'll say this, I like Beth more than I like Lily from ATWT. I suspect I'm not alone on this particular ledge.

What was wrong with Lily’s teeth on ATWT? Did they make Noelle Beck wear fake teeth when she took over for Martha Byrne?

I liked Beth, but I loved her mom Lillian.

The moms of the Mary Sue types are usually more interesting. Lillian rather than Beth, Lucinda rather than Lily, Donna rather than Marley. Going outside of P&G, and for the exception, Christine/Cricket was more interesting than Rebecca, I suppose.

Is anyone going to discuss my eyelift and facelift from late 2003/early 2004? HELLO KIDDOS

Lillian more interesting than Beth? Really?

R134 Jessica, Rebecca was the actress.

Back to my plastic surgery!

Looks great for 60.

Lillian was underutilized with a few exceptions.

Wouldn't Iva be Lily's mom?

R140 Which was a shame.

Speculation on Judi and Vince/Grant relationship- I heard she was in an emotionally abusive relationship with a show producer. This was at the end of Grant’s run. He was leaving and didn’t provide much emotional support. Both John Bolger and especially Vince did. She’s felt close to them ever since. She felt Grant wasn’t there for her. Heard this from someone who ran a Vince fan website.

[quote] Saint Beth was right but she had an edge to her I liked.

Saint Beth of Raines!

India should have been more involved in story with Beth. The dialogue was funny and smart. Only Pam really got Beth. Writers can take other writers creations and make them their own but no writer really got Beth until the last one.

Writer’s creations^^^^

Jill Laurie Hurst got Phillip and Beth because she actually wrote the characters she knew they were, and didn't try to make them be everything else under the sun. Unfortunately it was too late

Ugh. Jill Lorie Hurst. She certainly banged those last few nails into TGL’s coffin.

I wasn’t a huge GL watcher past the mid 80s, but I did think Beth Chamberlin would have made a good recast Liza Colby on AMC. Instead we got Jamie Luner who was Liza in name only.

That was the era where so many roles were recast with actors that only vaguely acted like or resembled the earlier characters.

Most of ATWT was unrecognizable with all the recasts.

Not to mention, wandering ABC actors appearing on ATWT.

Connie Ford is the subject of a recently started thread.

Have we been M'd?

No, r153.

Fuk. We’ve been Murieled.

Does anyone have episodes of TGL, TYATR, TSS, TEON, and AWSS they can share on YouTube?

I’m a miserable old fuck. TGL was always TGL.

[quote] We’ve been Murieled.

I have no idea what it means to me We’ve been Murieled.

[quote]I have no idea what it means to me We’ve been Murieled.

Welcome to DataLounge! Hope you're enjoying your first few days here.

R159 I have been on DL for over 20 years

You’ll fit in fine as long as you call it TGL.

In any case, we have not been M'd.

Let’s get back to GL talk. Here’s the June 4, 1990 episode: Reva going bonkers, Josh worrying about Reva, Vanessa and Nadine bickering. I loved this era!

It’s TGL.

Reva was losing her SHIT!

[quote] I have no idea what it means to me

When a thread has been Murieled or M'd, the free members can no longer comment. Which brings conversations to a crawl, since there's only a handful of paid members.

[quote] since there's only a handful of paid members.

Since I'm a paid member, I guess that is why I don't notice it when threads get Murieled

Bea Reardon was quite the active pussy with all them kids she had.

anyway......

r167

thank you for being another person who pays 2 fucking dollar a month for this site

Question to discuss

Was Reva really just Rita for a different generation?

Did Rita flash her beav in the town square?

Rita’s beaver was quite busy when she was married to the fat Ed.

Would Rita have ever been crazy enough to drive off a bridge?

Old miserable Vetsoap fan is going on and on about TGL and fat Mart. It’s been 40 years since the fat Ed left. Get over it you miserable old fuck.

Geez, you talk about him like he was John Goodman or something.

Or Jordan Clarke.

anyway....

The Classy Emmy Winning Actress Christina Pickles trading barbs with Beverlee McKinsey on Another World

R179 What the fuck was McKunty wearing on her head? Jesus Christ! Maybe the “over worked” actress should have spent less time in the beauty helmet head salon!

In the clip from R179, Elena looked like she was staring right into the teleprompter. She did not try to play it off at all.

I love Bev but damn, she and Christina Pickles are having a contest as to who can have the more matronly hairstyle.

The 70s were awful for that shit.

Beverlee was SO over worked yet she could spend hours getting that hair done?

The two of them are 44 in r179’s video. Victoria Wyndham didn’t look matronly like that.

To put it in context, Laura Wright is now 51 and Sharon Case is 50.

Bev always looked old.

R184 Yep. Hairstyles were just so matronly for older women at that time. Kathryn Hays had an almost grandmotherly hairstyle on ATWT and Kim was a leading character.

Then again even the younger women had unflattering short hair and often curly styles then.

Douglas Cramer, who was a producer for many different things including Dynasty, just died.

Did not know he was involved with early days of GL and ATWT on TV (based on the timelines they talk about here I am guessing late 50s or early 60s)

I mean, looking at my parents' high school yearbooks turns up a lot of "old people," so it stands to reason that everyone came across as matronly back in the day.

Ellen Stewart on ATWT had the old lady hairdoo.

Dylan from SON is dumber than rocks! He deletes his posts every time someone disagrees even if they have quoted him. Idiot! He is going to disappear for a week and wack off to pictures of Grossman, who left him for Sharon Case.

Dumb Dylan truly is an idiot. Vee, who is in the biz, needs to have a chat with Dumb Dylan.

It's hard to get people to care about the soaps when there are only four left.

Dylan, the Moron, just posted that he misses Chuck Pratt’s Y&R. He will probably delete it soon just before goes to wack off to Grossman/Adam Newman again.

Oooh papa tooney we got a looney

Erika Slezak had the most matronly hairstyles on OLTL throughout the 80s. Made her look decades older than she actually was.

We still don't care about anyone at SON. We will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever CARE about who posts what, says what, thinks what at that board.

Ever.

Is there a new thread here?

this one, sort of

Eh. More about old movies, no?