I got Pfizer vaccine . I am better than the people who get moderna , j&j and AZ

Are you always so judgmental OP?

Congratulations! Would you like a cookie?

OP How so? Haven't been vaccinated yet.

Perhaps Pzifer has more money to suppress the negative stories.

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OP- I got the Moderna Vaccine, however I have a LARGE penis so I am at the top of the PENIS chain.

R7, no , Moderna Vaccine will shrink your penis

[quote]The genetic mutation will kick in soon.

I hope I get Storm's weather control and not Nightcrawler's blue skin.

[quote]The Chinese vaccine is starting to look like the safest option at this point.

Also the most ineffective.

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OP- Uh oh.

R2 No thank you, I don't need a cookie. Knowing Pfizer is on my card and in my arm is all the reward I need.

Slaves, the lot of you. The Illuminati and VIP vaccine is the "Chiron", named after the centaur who taught medicine to the god Asclepius, Apollo's son. It's not ironic that Asclepius's mother was princess Coronis, a mortal princess. The Chiron is produced by Microsoft and Rothschild money in Israeli military laboratories and is said to double lifespan.

Developed in Russia so watch out for the mind control...

Moderna is American. It was developed in Massachusetts.

I am patriotic.

I did want the Moderna vaccine because it would be like having a little piece of Dolly Parton inside me, but Pfizer was the first appointment I could get.

I got Moderna.

That's that underground city Viki found on One Life to Live, right?

I got Madonna.

If you got Madonna, your body is working overtime producing antibodies to all manner of infectious agents.

It is very effective R20, but I felt very queasy for a couple weeks after.

I'm too lazy to get it. If I die, whatever. Take my life, who needs it.

Pfizer is the only choice for people who desire the finer things.

Yass kween ^.

It's adorable that you all want to give the impression that you and Pfizer are so close, yet you're not even on a first-name basis with him.

Comirnaty and I are laughing at you.

I got Madonna and have been voguing nonstop ever since. Terrible side effect but I’m in great shape.

R23, where does one go where you are given a choice? Everyone I know who got vaxxed got whatever was available. They couldn't pick and choose. I had to go to a mobile vaccination site because Kaiser still only has a limited supply.

Oh, OP... We know, that behind your screen, you look like Mickey Rourke and have 8% body fat.

Old fatties are never on top without cash up front.

I just canceled my moderna appointment and scheduled to get the J&J...for the convenience of 1 shot and I like that it was tested already on the newer strains. I’m under 40 and healthy(ish), leave the good stuff for the more fragile.

Does LVMH have a vaccine?

OMG me too OP! Let's be vax besties!

J&J effectiveness increases over time to around 90%.

[quote] where does one go where you are given a choice?

My state’s vaccine scheduling site indicated which sites had which vaccine, and so I could schedule my vaccination at whichever site had the vaccine I wanted. All three vaccines were available near me. However, I know some states are not as well run as others.

I got the J&J the other day and my sister called it “the ghetto vaccine” and someone else snidely said “good luck with that 80%”

I didn’t know there was a... status involved. But if it makes you feel better about yourself, have at it.

I’m just glad to have it.

[quote] Plus the nurse already gave me a lolli

See this is bullshit.

I ain’t got shit! I’m going to make a complaint.

Very noble, r27.

Seriously.

R27, in NYC, there was a window of opportunity to sign up for the J&J, so I did. Otherwise it was Pfizer, which I didn’t want. But most people don’t seem to have a preference.

*winking at R7*

How YOU doin’?

Mama and I both got scabby earlobes from the Pfuzer vaccine.

I got Madonna and grew cone tits.

Actually J&J is better and over time more effective but believe what you want OP.

It's a widely known fact Moderna is the best one out there but it's stupid to play the game of which is best. Get whatever you can get get and don't think twice about it.

here...

If you don't get Moderna you're nothing but trash and should jump into a grease fire.

P and M had much smaller pools in it's testing and that could be key. J&J had larger pools.

[quote] I'm too lazy to get it. If I die, whatever. Take my life, who needs it.

I feel the same, r22, but covid is a horrible way to die. (I wonder how Dorothy Parker would have slipped it in to her poem "Résumé."

I'm getting the Pfizer, too. It's the gold standard and was created by a Hungarian immgrant (like my paternal ancestors) to the US and Turkish immigrants to Germany. Suck on it, anti-immigrant fanatics!

I just discovered I have all 3 available to me but can’t figure out which to choose.

Come over here so I can slap you OP. Then return in 21 days for the second.

Serosorting is alive and well

Fauci got the Moderna vaccine

R51, Biden got the Pfizer Vaccine. Who is more important ?

[quote] Fauci got the Moderna vaccine

Considering Fauci’s track record, that’s a recommendation for Pfizer.

R52 not you

R53 you're a more trustworthy source than Fauci, so I'm sold

Moderna is the gold standard from the worldwide science glitterati to the Hollywood red carpet. It's fashion forward. It's all the rage and will be featured at the Met Gala this year. Take the others at your ow peril.

Moderna's second dose will kick your ass. But no pain, no gain.

^^I'll kick your ass.

AstraZeneca is so continental, dahling. It'll overtake them all.

Pfizer blows.

How empty you must be to flaunt an elitist attitude over something that is ultimately luck-of-the-draw.

They are all 100% effective against serious illness and death. The various other % come from the different trials, done at different times in different countries in different ways. Get the first one available to you and stop being so snooty.

Pfizer = Britney Moderna = Christina J/J = Mandy Moore . . AstraZeneca = Jessica Simpson

[Quote] Pfizer = Britney Moderna = Christina J/J = Mandy Moore . . AstraZeneca = Jessica Simpson

OMFG!!!! I'm Mandy! I love her! Delish! My fav MM song! Fab!

another Moderna here

R57 it didn't kick my ass, so there.

[quote]How empty you must be to flaunt an elitist attitude over something that is ultimately luck-of-the-draw.

You're obviously new here.

I've been here since 2002, R67.

How do we inoculate for prevention of a shitty sense of humor?

I'm starting to think high schools need to offer a class on interpreting satire and sarcasm in online environments.

[quote]interpreting satire and sarcasm in online environments

No, OP is just an unfunny troll who posts things like this:

[quote]Why gay men are obsessed with farts and poops ?

my dr, head of internal medicine at may clinic, said pfizer the worst.

HOPE U DIE

MINE SAID MODERNA THE MOST EFFECTIVE. AND LEAST SIDE EFFECTS

Moderna is better.

I took my first Moderna shot on Wednesday. I got up from a nap before and I couldn't remember what day of the week it was.

Is that a side effect of the drug?

I sought out Moderna as it's not as fragile as Pfizer in terms of cold storage and date usage. Got my first shot this week and feel fine - except a sore arm. But it's a fricking long needle - that's expected. Surprised I didn't have a bruise.

And now there may be a slight difference.

Moderna is testing another booster vaccine that can deal with the B.1.351 (South African) variant.

Pfizer/BioNTech is already 100% effective against it in South Africa but they are still testing a booster shot anyway just in case one day they're not.

Why is no one talking about J and J? Is it because it's new?

If I wanted to switch vaccine makers in 2022/2023 can I?

Let's cut to the chase: Pfizer is the best of the three, then Moderna, then Johnson and Johnson.

Everyone knows Moderna is stretched with that disinfectant Trump suggested as a virus killer.

we all will be getting boosters in 2021 (much less 2022/2023, r78)

[quote]Why is no one talking about J and J? Is it because it's new?

It's rare.

My friends were in the same situation as the person up above. They heard somewhere was offering it and they had to hustle to get an appointment to be vaccinated by it. Two of them got appointments. The rest of us, getting vaccinated at various locations, have all ended up with Moderna or Pfizer.

My partner got J&J earlier this week. I receive the 2 Moderna shots in late Jan. & Feb.

I felt yucky about 24 hours after the 2nd Moderna shot. It lasted a day. My two sisters had more severe reactions. One for 2 days; the other 4 days with chills, weakness, etc.

The sore arm for me was more intense on the 1st shot.

My partner would only take J&J. He had zero side effects.

The hospitals, county heath center, and larger medical facilities are primarily giving the Pfizer vaccine: long lines, hard to schedule appointments, etc. Pfizer requires the stronger refrigeration. That's why the facilities injecting this vaccine are more limited, along with the supply factor.

Get the first available.

[quote} I took my first Moderna shot on Wednesday. I got up from a nap before and I couldn't remember what day of the week it was.

I got the J&J on Thursday & woke up today sure it was Saturday.

R77, I talked about it. It was my preference and it’s not as available in NYC. I got it at the Javits Center and there were separate areas for those getting that brand. ??? I was lucky with timing, and when I saw there were openings for J&J, I signed up and told a bunch of people, who also got appointments for it. It was just luck.

As did my husband, I developed a fever and chills that night and spent the next day feeling like I had the flu. Slept a lot, no appetite, woozy. Then after a good night’s sleep, felt fine the second day. I’m interpreting that as a sign that my body was doing what it was supposed to. Oh, sore arm, too.

My cousin ended up in the hospital after having the Moderna shot. In fact, the majority of horror stories I’ve heard first hand were all from people who got that one. No issues with my Pfizer vaccine.

[Quote] My partner would only take J&J.

Did he say the reason?

J&J is nothing more than liquid baby powder.

I got the Aldi store brand vaccine. I couldn't get on the list for the Kirkland Signature brand.

The side effects of the first shot of Moderna was 24 hours of feeling weak, tired and sluggish. The second dose kicked my ass for up to four days...tired, weak, achy muscles, sluggish, generally out of it for several days. I'm still glad I got it, but it kicked my ass. Most people didn't have the severe reaction that I did.

[quote] Moderna is the gold standard

Yes, it’s the Harvest Gold of the middle class. So standard.

R87, I had to push him to go. A pharmacist called two from towns away (I inquired in his behalf) and he received one of two slots left. He only wanted to go one time. He wasn't against having a shot, but can be one to procrastinate. That, and he carries a little bit of social anxiety.

My doctor told me to avoid phizer, said some new shit comin out but how its not that effective....

[quote] AstraZeneca is so continental, dahling.

Sorry, steerage class from the continent is no longer welcome here.

Get whichever one you can. All vaccines are the same.

That’s like saying all bottled water is the same.

Take what you can get for now. When we have to go into the second mass vaccination program then it may be that people will have more of a choice. As it is, I was able to choose between J&J and Moderna. I took the first one available.

R93 what did your Dr. say, specifically?

[quote] Take what you can get for now.

The purpose of this thread is not to review what proles have to do.

theyr all better than nothin, get whtev u want....good lord

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[quote] P and M had much smaller pools in it's testing

Oh, dear!

[quote] If I wanted to switch vaccine makers in 2022/2023 can I?

Yes, r78. All the experts are saying take what you can get for now because you’re not locked in to that brand. If the vaccine is needed annually, we’ll have much more of a supply and you can choose then if you want to.

[quote] I just discovered I have all 3 available to me but can’t figure out which to choose.

Just my two cents:

Pfizer, because of its effectiveness and three weeks is shorter than four. I got Pfizer three weeks ago and go for my second one Monday, and that was a LONG ass three weeks. I couldn’t imagine waiting four (as silly as that sounds).

I think they are all good. I chose Pfizer because it seems to have the least amount of side effects, a lot of data was collected about it when it was launched first in Israel, and it's now been authorized (or in the process of) for children 12-16. Moderna is working on it, but right now it's only approved for 18+. It's not relevant for me, but Moderna seems to cause women more side effects including the "Covid arm" that seems to pop up about 5-8 days after the injection. This is harmless and goes away quickly I've read. I originally want J&J because I thought it would be the most mild in terms of side effects, which with the 1 shot, seemed like a good trade off for *possibly* less protection (the verdict is still out on that with the variant protection). Then I read J&J slams you for a few days after. Bottom line is that it's all an experiment. If there are options out there to choose, I don't think you have to just accept whatever is offered. On the val sites in CA, you can see which place offers what and choose accordingly.

Don't go down the reddit rabbit hole from the vaccinated sub. There is good info, but most people only post reviews when they have had some sort of reaction vs. the millions where everything is fine, like Yelp. I stopped reading a few days before the appt.

[quote] LONG ass three weeks. I couldn’t imagine waiting four (as silly as that sounds).

Yes, it does sound rather silly.

Take the first one you can get. They all offer 100% protections against severe illness and death from COVID.

I thought I was getting Moderna, but when they said, "You have to wait 15 minutes", I knew I was getting Pfizer. I guess I'm glad I got it, seeing all the comments here. 3 more weeks til my second one!

Are you in a country that differentiates between the two, r108?

The CDC guidelines are: 30-minute wait for people who have ever had an immediate allergic reaction to any injectable or vaccine, and also those who received J&J because an mRNA vaccine was contraindicated. Everyone else waits 15 minutes.

I'm in California- for some reason Pfizer is the only one where they make people wait 15 minutes after injection.

I'm in FL and was advised to wait 15 minutes after my Moderna just in case I had a baby or something.

[quote] They all offer 100% protections against severe illness and death from COVID.

100%.

I got my second dose of Pfizer yesterday. Nurse suggested I take Tylenol right after the shot to prevent a possible headache. I’ve read online that you should wait 24 hrs before taking Tylenol because it might interfere with the shot. Fortunately I didn’t have a headache at all but I am concerned that this nurse is giving out the wrong info. Or is she?

I got my second Moderna yesterday and the USAF guy who gave me the shot said he could call by at my house later that day to take my mind off the headache. He did and it did.

A USAF guy gave you your shot? I got my shot by a woman 👩 at CVS

Yes R115. He's tall, sexy and simples adorable.

I’m in CA, too. It’s crazy to think that some places are ignoring CDC best practice. I’m not frontline but I see the reports and we’ve had a bunch of anxiety attacks as well as quite a few cases of vasovagal syncope during the post-vaccine wait. I’d hate to be on the road with them when it hits.

I don't fraternize with people who got the lesser vaccines like Moderna, Johnson and Johnson or, heaven forbid, Astra Zeneca.

[quote]I thought I was getting Moderna, but when they said, "You have to wait 15 minutes", I knew I was getting Pfizer.

It's 15 minutes (at least) for all of them. You were misinformed.

R113, it's NSAIDs like ibuprofen that you're supposed to avoid. Tylenol is okay as far as everything I've read.

Mariah got her first shot today.

Whole family got Covid after Pfizer jab

The best development of the whole vaccine process is discovering how many hot male nurses there are out there. There were some smoking hot male nurses at my vaccine site. I wish I had gone to nursing school now. And you know they're all hooking-up after work.

WHAT KIND OF A CUNT PUTS UP SUCH A PRISSSY THREAD

THEY ALL GOOOD. THATS BEEN PROVEN

R121, you’re still trying to make that something, huh?

Ok, so we’ll say it again: It’s completely expected that one can get COVID after vaccinations. It’s not 100% effective against you getting it (no vaccine is). It is, however, 100% effective against one getting ill enough to require hospitalization and/or die.

Breakthrough cases are completely expected.

r118 is the Barbara Thorndyke of vaccination status.

I’m getting Johnson and Johnson tomorrow, who wants my stuff?

my doc said get moderna, but they all seem just fine....snotty thread if u ask me.....

I got the Pfizer as well, but it was luck of the draw. It's just what they had that day.

Why are those of you saying their doctor told them to get one or the other not providing any context or detail? Is that all they said and you didn't ask why?

Who are the public healthcare shills on here saying people should just take whatever they are offered? If people have a choice, let them exercise it, and let them do what’s right to them. If people want the more prestigious vaccine, they should take it.

DLVAS - Datalounge Vaccination Anxiety Syndrome

I got the Pfizer and had zero side effects both times, now I am paranoid they gave me a bum shot or that they weren't effective.

For those like r132 who got the placebo for the ongoing study, sincerely, thank you for your service.

J&J was tested on the newer strains!

Bitterness is not getting Moderna.

R134, Pfizer is also protective against the new variants. Moderna is still undergoing testing but might not be as protective. They are, however, creating a booster based on the variant and are currently testing it. Basically, it would be added to the vaccine as it is currently made.

Did no one correct R6? They said Ii'm surprised no one else went the deactivated virus" which isn't true, because all the vaccines EXCEPT the Moderna and Pfizer are using the standard vaccine technology, which uses a deactivated virus. And no one wants to use Sinovac because the Chinese (and the Russians with their vaccine) can't be trusted to publish their research and testing to the acceptable standard. They withhold information that makes them look bad. The Russians didn't even do proper testing on theirs.

The shitty vaccines no one wants like Sinovac and the Russian one are the ones that are going to the poor countries.

[quote] A USAF guy gave you your shot? I got my shot by a woman 👩 at CVS

Ewww, a woman?! Why didn’t you refuse?

[quote]The Chinese vaccine is starting to look like the safest option at this point.

In a rare admission of the weakness of Chinese coronavirus vaccines, the country’s top disease control official says their effectiveness is low and the government is considering mixing them to get a boost.

Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu.

The second shot of Pfizer is no joke! I felt fine all day, except for being tired, and then it hit me like a ton of bricks about 9 pm. It's the worst I've felt in over 20 years. I still feel achy after 24 hours. I honestly don't know how anyone could get the second shot of Pfizer or Moderna and not experience any side-effects.

I'll switch to the J&J shot if we have to get another vaccine in a year. There's no way that I can go through that again every year.

^^ Puss

JJ causes blood clots, yes?

The Philippines received a shit-ton of Sinovac, but nobody wants it because Filipinos don't trust China. Distribution of AstraZeneca has been suspended. Pfizer and Moderna promise their vaccines are coming but when? Meanwhile, Covid cases continue to surge.

South African COVID variant can ‘break through’ Pfizer vaccine: study

JERUSALEM – The coronavirus variant discovered in South Africa can “break through” Pfizer/BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine to some extent, a real-world data study in Israel found, though its prevalence in the country is low and the research has not been peer-reviewed.

The study, released on Saturday, compared almost 400 people who had tested positive for COVID-19, 14 days or more after they received one or two doses of the vaccine, against the same number of unvaccinated patients with the disease. It matched age and gender, among other characteristics.

The South African variant, B.1.351, was found to make up about 1% of all the COVID-19 cases across all the people studied, according to the study by Tel Aviv University and Israel’s largest healthcare provider, Clalit.

But among patients who had received two doses of the vaccine, the variant’s prevalence rate was eight times higher than those unvaccinated – 5.4% versus 0.7%.

This suggests the vaccine is less effective against the South African variant, compared with the original coronavirus and a variant first identified in Britain that has come to comprise nearly all COVID-19 cases in Israel, the researchers said.

“We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group. This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine’s protection,” said Tel Aviv University’s Adi Stern.

The researchers cautioned, though, that the study only had a small sample size of people infected with the South African variant because of its rarity in Israel.

They also said the research was not intended to deduce overall vaccine effectiveness against any variant, since it only looked at people who had already tested positive for COVID-19, not at overall infection rates.

Pfizer and BioNTech could not be immediately reached for comment outside business hours.

The companies said on April 1 that their vaccine was around 91% effective at preventing COVID-19, citing updated trial data that included participants inoculated for up to six months.

In respect to the South African variant, they said that among a group of 800 study volunteers in South Africa, where B.1.351 is widespread, there were nine cases of COVID-19, all of which occurred among participants who got the placebo. Of those nine cases, six were among individuals infected with the South African variant.

Some previous studies have indicated that the Pfizer/BioNTech shot was less potent against the B.1.351 variant than against other variants of the coronavirus, but still offered a robust defence.

While the results of the study may cause concern, the low prevalence of the South African strain was encouraging, according to Stern.

“Even if the South African variant does break through the vaccine’s protection, it has not spread widely through the population,” said Stern, adding that the British variant may be “blocking” the spread of the South African strain.

Almost 53% of Israel’s 9.3 million population has received both Pfizer doses. Israel has largely reopened its economy in recent weeks while the pandemic appears to be receding, with infection rates, severe illness and hospitalizations dropping sharply. About a third of Israelis are below the age of 16, which means they are still not eligible for the shot.

Blood clots in Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine recipients under investigation

A European drug regulator is reviewing blood clots among four people in the United States who received Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine, according to a report.

The European Medicines Agency said three serious cases of clotting and low platelets occurred in the US during the rollout of J&J’s vaccine from its Janssen unit and that one person died from a clotting disorder reported during a clinical trial. The EMA’s report is the first to mention a probe of blood clots associated with the J&J vaccine.

Johnson & Johnson said it was aware of the rare reports of blood clots and was working with regulators.

“At present, no clear causal relationship has been established between these rare events and the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine,” the company said in a statement to Reuters.

The Food and Drug Administration said it was aware of the blood clot issue and also had not found “a causal relationship with vaccination.”

Nearly 5 million people in the United States had received J&J’s vaccine as of Thursday morning, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The issue of blood clots in the brain reported by some in Europe who got the AstraZeneca vaccine is also under probe.

that's why China has to spy and steal fucking all kinds of info. THEY ARE SHIT!!!

their vaccine is only 50% effective! Pfizer is 97%

FUCK THEM COMMIE CUNTS!!! They have a dog eating festival where tens of thousands of dogs are killed! FUCK THEM!

Does Sinovac cause death or side-effects? I don’t mind 50% efficiency. I don’t go anywhere.

One little discussed difference between Pfizer and Moderna is the amount of vaccine in each shot. Pfizer is 30ml while Moderna is 100 ml, over three times more in each dose. This is why they think that people get more/stronger side effects from Moderna, but it is also thought possible that the larger amount makes it somewhat more effective both against the variants and over longer periods of time. Too soon to know yet however. The vaccines are in fact almost identical in their composition.

China admits that it’s COVID-19 vaccine isn’t very effective: official

BEIJING — In a rare admission of the weakness of Chinese coronavirus vaccines, the country’s top disease control official says their effectiveness is low and the government is considering mixing them to give them a boost.

Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu.

Beijing has distributed hundreds of millions of doses in other countries while also trying to promote doubt about the effectiveness of Western vaccines.

“It’s now under formal consideration whether we should use different vaccines from different technical lines for the immunization process,” Gao said.

The effectiveness rate of a coronavirus vaccine from Sinovac, a Chinese developer, at preventing symptomatic infections has been found to be as low as 50.4% by researchers in Brazil. By comparison, the vaccine made by Pfizer has been found to be 97% effective.

Beijing has yet to approve any foreign vaccines for use in China, where the coronavirus emerged in late 2019.

Gao gave no details of possible changes in strategy but mentioned mRNA, a previously experimental technique used by Western vaccine developers while China’s drug makers used traditional technology.

“Everyone should consider the benefits mRNA vaccines can bring for humanity,” Gao said. “We must follow it carefully and not ignore it just because we already have several types of vaccines already.”

Gao previously raised questions about the safety of mRNA vaccines. He was quoted by the official Xinhua News Agency as saying in December he couldn’t rule out negative side effects because they were being used for the first time on healthy people.

Chinese state media and popular health and science blogs also have questioned the safety and effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine, which uses mRNA.

As of April 2, some 34 million people have received both of the two doses required by Chinese vaccines and about 65 million received one, according to Gao.

Experts say mixing vaccines, or sequential immunization might boost effectiveness rates. Trials around the world are looking at mixing of vaccines or giving a booster shot after a longer time period. Researchers in Britain are studying a possible combination of Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines.

I think the AZ vax is safer for older folks. From what I've read, it's women and under 40 having problems with it

Which vax is safest for younger people l?

I just got my first Pfizer dose yesterday. I read that some guys who've received it think it made their penises longer.

R4 I just read in the NYT that the Chinese vaccine has a very low rate of effectiveness.

I got Pfizer because I didn't have a choice. Of course vaccination brand status is a thing - because people are lame.

R4, check the SCIENCE! Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and AZ are better than shitty Chinese vaccine!

[quote] Does LVMH have a vaccine?

Available only at Les Galeries Lafayette.

I was sick for several days with the first Moderna. I felt like I was on speed for the first day and a half, threw up, giant lymph nodes, shivering. UGH. Feeling better. Will the 2nd give me Dolly tits?

[quote] Pfizer is 30ml while Moderna is 100 ml,

R148, WTF are you talking about?

Pfizer is 0.3 mL and Moderna is 0.5 mL.

JFC, and we wonder why there’s so much misinformation out there.

My gut tells me that people who had a strong immune response to the vaccine with nasty side-effects will maintain immunity for much longer(perhaps years) than those who had little to no side-effects.

Ha!. Even China today admitted its vaccine is dog shit. Chinks can't do anything well.

[quote]Experts say mixing vaccines, or sequential immunization might boost effectiveness rates.

Why yes - let’s just keep pumping even MORE weird stuff into our bodies and just see what happens for the heck of it!

And no I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but this let’s throw anything at the wall and see what sticks when it comes to our bodies is getting ridiculous.

Maybe R159 is right, I don’t know.

[quote] let’s just keep pumping even MORE weird stuff into our bodies

Oh, honey, that’s a Saturday night for me.

R159, that's not what the studies show, so I'll trust those over your gut. Also, those who are having strong reactions, might have been the people who already had a asymptomatic case of covid. That's what the actual scientists think might be the reason for such different reactions. So, again, I'll believe that over your gut.

I don’t know, r164, he’s got a pretty big gut.

No side effects from either Pfizer dose, I hope it still is effective.

They ran out of vaccine for you, R166. You got some left over water from a bottle they found in the back room.

Absolutely no side effects from the first Pfizer vaccine. My second is April 23. Should I expect the same? Or should I take off work that day?

I'm getting it tomorrow at Clinique Générale-Beaulieu, Genève. I must be getting the ne plus ultra of vaccines!

R168. I had flu like symptoms about 3 hrs after my second shot. I was glad I took the day off.

Got Pfizer #2 about five hours ago and feel fine so far. I hope my immune system exists.

R6

[quote] I don't know why no one else went the inactivated virus route

Probably because you’re not a virologist just some dumbfuck opining on a message board about someone you know absolutely nothing about.

And OP is obviously Boris with his Slavic missing articles.

I got my first dose last week, and no side effects other than my arm was sore for a few days. I’m hoping I don’t have any side effects with the second one either.

If you don't get side effects then it means your immune system is not that strong anymore.

[quote]If you don't get side effects then it means your immune system is not that strong anymore.

This is absolute bullshit. In case anyone is wondering.

[quote]If you don't get side effects then it means your immune system is not that strong anymore.

Link to this supposed scientific fact?

R175 Thank you. That’s what I thought.

BTW are you married? If not, would you marry me? I’ve always wanted to marry a doctor.😍

[quote]My gut tells me that people who had a strong immune response to the vaccine with nasty side-effects will maintain immunity for much longer(perhaps years) than those who had little to no side-effects.

My gut tells me to place trust in science. Science knows more about this than you or your gut. Stop spreading false bullshit that tacitly encourages people not to get vaccinated.

Most of the people I know who got the second Phizer shot had little reaction. Moderna on the other hand.....

I got my shots and stopped speculating. It’s done. I’m vaccinated and I still take precautions. I’m not going to drive myself nuts trying to figure out what I don’t understand.

[quote] If you don't get side effects then it means your immune system is not that strong anymore.

That’s true.

I'm young and healthy with a strong immune system. I had no reaction with the first Pfizer shot but have no idea about the second. The Moderna vaccine seems to cause more side effects. A couple of my friends, male and female, were still feeling the injection site almost 2 weeks after the first shot plus Covid arm with a female friend after a week. Pfizer is the only one approved for 16 and up vs. Moderna. I have heard the J&J effects can be from mild to wild. Ultimately it is what it is, whatever you get.

R181 is a lying piece of shit.

[quote] I got my shots and stopped speculating. It’s done. I’m vaccinated and I still take precautions. I’m not going to drive myself nuts trying to figure out what I don’t understand.

Once you’re fully vaccinated (~3 weeks after second mRNA dose), you really don’t have to take precautions, unless you’re just neurotic. Mitigation measures past full vaccination are meaningless, statistically speaking. You have maybe a .05% chance of getting a non-serious infection. Not a 5% chance, not a .5% chance, but a .05% chance, maybe less.

[quote] My gut tells me to place trust in science. Science knows more about this than you or your gut. Stop spreading false bullshit that tacitly encourages people not to get vaccinated.

It doesn’t seem like that person was trying to spread anti-vax sentiment at all, unless there were other comments by him that I missed. I’m not saying my gut agrees with his gut (at all), just that there’s nothing that sounds anti-vaxxer.

But yes, I agree—trust the science.

[quote] Why yes - let’s just keep pumping even MORE weird stuff into our bodies and just see what happens for the heck of it!

[quote]And no I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but this let’s throw anything at the wall and see what sticks when it comes to our bodies is getting ridiculous.

This, on the other hand, does sound like anti-vax sentiment.

[quote] JJ causes blood clots, yes?

Yes, at about the same rate that lightning strikes a single person in their lifetime.

[quote] Most of the people I know who got the second Phizer shot had little reaction.

Me too. That includes me, mother, brother, friend, and five coworkers.

No reactions at all.

r188, that’s not good.

[quote]Yes, at about the same rate that lightning strikes a single person in their lifetime.

Yaaaas kween yas.

[quote][R188], that’s not good.

This sinister troll as no idea what the fuck he/she/they is talking about. And the intent is clearly malign. DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT

ha ha,,,,need a 3rd shot if u got this dud????

[quote]Once you’re fully vaccinated (~3 weeks after second mRNA dose), you really don’t have to take precautions, unless you’re just neurotic. Mitigation measures past full vaccination are meaningless, statistically speaking. You have maybe a .05% chance of getting a non-serious infection. Not a 5% chance, not a .5% chance, but a .05% chance, maybe less.

And that is good enough. It won't get better, the stats are more likely to be less reassuring over time.

Almost 6,000 Americans who were 2 shot fully vaccinated with the Pfizer contracted COVID in the last 2 months. 74 of them died. There are no absolute guarantees. People's understanding of the efficacy rates are skewed. And the rates themselves are based on the limits of time than the vaccines have been used in real world settings.

The truth is that J&J and AstraZeneca will probably turn out to be just as "effective" as Moderna and Pfizer. Because the real tests are yet to come. Some of the more old fashioned vaccines are likely to provide a system for immunity that the others aren't tested to address. Regardless, you can still get COVID and die even if you had the best vaccine on the right schedule and didn't drink any alcohol or see anyone for 6 weeks after. The risk is small but it's not invisible.

We can't throw masks off in public and shouldn't start travelling the world - but we can finally feel comfortable with other people who have been vaccinated. Maskless, eating and drinking, laughing and/or fucking. Otherwise what is the point?

Moderna is fancier. It's the super star company for mRNA vaccines.

I had the Dollar Store vaccine. No adverse reaction but everything tastes like pound cake.

Dollar store pound cake is delicious if you microwave it for 25 seconds. Yum.

[quote]Almost 6,000 Americans who were 2 shot fully vaccinated with the Pfizer contracted COVID in the last 2 months.

A doctor was just on MSNBC and said that it was less than 1% who got sick after the vaccine. She also said that we already knew from the trials that a minuscule percentage of vaccinated people got sick after vaccination, and that she wasn't the least bit concerned about it.

And what did I say different from that R197? 76 of them died. The vaccines are not foolproof. The original data that said they were 100 percent effective against hospitalization and DEATH, is not true.

My point was that the J&J and AstraZeneca vaccines are probably no more risky. None of them protect you from possibly contracting COVID, but the adenovector vaccines make your less likely to pass on infection than the Pfizer or Moderna.

You seem overly sensitive to this information R197. It suspect it's some kind of vaccine snobbery that has no purpose or context. Don't worry dude. You're safe until you're not. Life will never be normal again. I stand by my post @R193. LIVE.

[quote]Life will never be normal again.

Too bad there wasn't an internet back in 1918-1920 so we could see the other idiots like you spouting off nonsense.

You're so scared R197/R199. I can't help you with that. This is nothing like 1918. The world is not like 1918. These mutations are the opposite of what happened then. And the world moves not just from town to town, but all round the world, every minute of the day. Life will never be normal again. Better, for sure. Be happy. You seem to think Pfizer is best, ha.

Pfizer has seem to become the front runner for vaccine preferences. I had no choice and got it, and had very little side effects. Actually no one I know had side effects from it. OTOH, Moderna and J and J has been varied.

[quote]And what did I say different from that R197? 76 of them died. The vaccines are not foolproof.

Link to that, R198?

R200, you're really just pathetic and typing to read your own words at this point. You are arguing things that no one is disagreeing with on one hand and spouting absolute bullshit on the other hand. No, this will not last forever. No life is not changed forever. You have zero idea what you are talking about but keep pretending if it makes you feel better.

Also, R200, you don't think people were moving around the world in 1918-1920? You might want to crack a history book.

Gosh you're dumb R204. I do believe you were moving around the world in 1918, though.

[quote]You have zero idea what you are talking about but keep pretending if it makes you feel better.

Don't be so scared R203. Pretend whatever makes YOU feel better. God Bless You.

[quote]The United States is also tracking infections in people who have been fully vaccinated, Rochelle Walensky, director of the U.S. Centers of Disease Control and Prevention told the House subcommittee hearing.

[quote]Of 77 million people vaccinated in the United States, there have been 5,800 such breakthrough infections, Walensky said, including 396 people who required hospitalization and 74 who died.

[quote]Walensky said some of these infections have occurred because the vaccinated person did not mount a strong immune response. But the concern is that in some cases, they are occurring in people infected by more contagious virus variants.

I'd like to know the ages and health conditions of the ones that were hospitalized or died. I'd also like to know how long past their vaccinations they were and how much risky behavior they engaged in. I still think it's pretty hilarious that you haven't looked up what the word "likely" means and that you can't do the math to get the percentages of your numbers out of 77 million and that you haven't figured out the massive movement of people around the world in 1918-1920 or what happened to that virus. You can keep saying snide and stupid things in response and pretend you are professing some great truths but you aren't. But, you be you because no one else would want to be.

I’m using thoughts and prayers to prevent being infected with Covid. Jesus is the best vaccine of all.

R207, in context that seems to be saying that 74 people have died of Covid out of all vaccine repicients to date, not just out of the Pfizer recipients (as stated in R193). Is that right?

Statistics:

[quote]Of 77 million people vaccinated in the United States, there have been 5,800 such breakthrough infections,

.008%

[quote]Walensky said, including 396 people who required hospitalization

.0005%

[quote]and 74 who died.

.000096%

And, R211, presumably that .008% (not to mention the .000096%) could be largely characterized in terms of preconditions, age, and other factors.

R211, don't harsh that idiot's vibe with actual numbers. He'll be so disappointed that his anti-vax agenda has been spoiled.

I thought previous reporting indicated that though there are breakthrough cases, no one who has been vaccinated has died, so I’m surprised to read this. Could the deaths all be from the lower vaccines, and not Pfizer and Moderna?

R214, that's because the original studies were on 40,000 people. We're now talking almost 80 million people. Most likely, they had covid and died but may not have died from covid. That's why we'd need to see their ages and comorbidities to determine that. We also have all these nice new variants brought to us by the fucking maskless morons who should be tried for manslaughter and shipped off to live on an island of fellow idiots for the rest of their lives while we all watch then go all Hunger Games on each other on pay-per-view to help defer the costs they've plagued the world with through their irresponsible and irredeemable behavior.

J&J is not good.

J&J is fine.

Chance of getting blood clot after J&J = 1 in 1,000,000

Chance of just randomly getting blood clot = 5 in 1,000,000

Chance of getting blood clot on birth control pills = 1 in 3,000

The only information you need.

Looking at the chart, r218, it’s crazy that anyone would choose J&J.

Thank you, r215.

I was about to say the same thing, but less eloquent and informative than you did.

Apparently, only 35% of the breakthrough cases were men, so we can feel a little more secure from that.

[quote]We also have all these nice new variants brought to us by the fucking maskless morons who should be tried for manslaughter and shipped off to live on an island of fellow idiots for the rest of their lives while we all watch then go all Hunger Games on each other on pay-per-view to help defer the costs they've plagued the world with through their irresponsible and irredeemable behavior.

This.

So can you mix vaccines? And what about the booster shots next fall? Can you switch?

R223, yes.

If you got Pfizer this year and wanted Moderna next year that’s not a problem. In the beginning of the vaccination effort, the doctors were saying “get whatever one you can get, when you can get it. You’re not then beholden to that particular company and, if next year we need another booster, we’ll have much more supply then and that’s when you can choose.”

[quote] then go all Hunger Games on each other on pay-per-view to help defer the costs they've plagued the world with

Oh, dear!

[quote]Apparently, only 35% of the breakthrough cases were men, so we can feel a little more secure from that.

Doubtful on this site. Men? Ancient white gay men with multiple comorbidities are not safe from anything in this world. Except a legacy.

R20, I see what you did there.

[quote] It's a widely known fact Moderna is the best one out there

It is a known fact that a woman DO carry an evening bag at dinner time.

There's no getting around that!

An evening bag shouldn’t be that large. You should be able to get around it.

Pfizer for the elites, Moderna for the middle class, and J&J for the proles. It’s real.

And the people who don’t get vaxxed?

I don’t believe that, r30.

My entire family got Pfizer. Why? Because that’s what they had when we got our appointments.

I New York they recently started listing what vaccine is at specific locations. Every state site has Pfizer as do most of the pharmacies. I have not seen Moderna in New York or on their website.

J&J was given at one site in the state and only at night (the Javits Center).

I took all of them. The end can’t come soon enough. When you live in MAGA country you have that option! 😛

[quote]Pfizer for the elites, Moderna for the middle class, and J&J for the proles. It’s real.

Pfizer has a much higher availabilty at the moment so not so elite.

And, I wish people would stop even joking about this because, with my luck, all the joking will lead to the universe making sure that in six months my Pfizer vax will make me grow a tail...out of my forehead!

Sort of a whole new definition for face-fucking then.

R205 Not as dumb as you. Troops were moving around the world, going home from the war. Course they weren’t travelling around the world and Instagramming their every move - but there was mobility.

Well, if they didn’t ‘Gram it, did it even happen?

J&J is the vaccine for lazy people who can’t be bothered going back for a second shot.

[quote] Pfizer has a much higher availabilty at the moment so not so elite.

That’s what’s great about it. Discerning people who choose to be in the Pfizer elite aren’t restricted by scarcity.

I received the Moderna shots. That was the first available to me by appointment. My partner received the J&J a month after my 2nd shot.

Pfizer was the first distributed and has the more intense refrigeration requirement. Most people seem to go for what's available when making appointments.

A relative and a veteran, received the Moderna through the V.A. hospital, a federal government facility.

I’m glad I don’t know people who would take “first available” when it comes to selecting which vaccine to be injected with.

I got my vaccine 💉 injected in my bussy.

I am grateful that I was able to get the vaccine. Think about those poor people in the 3rd world countries where they don't even have jabs for their citizens...do you guys even check up on the news around the world? The covid cases are going up all over the world.

Get your vaccine and wear a mask! those variants are more contagious! stay safe.

Can I have your stuff?

I chose Moderna because it does not need the ultra-cold storage temps that Pfizer does, and I didn’t want that extra potential for error. Just get vaccinated folks!

R241 just stay sheltered & uninformed, Dear.

There should be a website or concierge service that provides assistance to people specifically wanting Pfizer.

EU just bought over 100 million doses! Do not despair my European DLers!

R193/198/200/etc is such a lunatic troll. Talking about breakthrough infections occurring in <.05% of fully vaccinated people like that’s proof that “life will never be the same again.”

For you, maybe, you freak. The rest of us will get on with life, fully vaccinated, UNMASKED, fucking and sucking.

THE SKY IS FALLING!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!

I have American friends (who are a couple) who are temporarily living in London for work for a year (arrived mid-March) . The wife of the couple just flew back yesterday to L.A. to get the vaccine. However, the husband can't and is still too young to get it for a while. And he's not happy with the choices that the U.K. is offering.

R251, is the husband under 15 because everyone in America who is over 16 is now eligible for a vaccine.

R252, the UK is still vaccinating according to age groups. The husband has to stay in the UK and is probably in his 30s, which means he will have to have the AstraZeneca.

Wow the UK is a mess and so far behind.

My vaccine site is still hot under the skin after almost a month.

Yes my husband under 15. And he my brother.

What did you get, r255?

Your friends sound like douches, R251/R253.

They're not my friends r258 and I'm not r251, but in the UK now everyone over the age of30 has to have the AstraZeneca because of the brain clot rare side effect. The few Pfizer and even fewer Moderna doses will have to be reserved for the under-30s and pregnant women and - hopefully - second doses. We're hardly getting any Moderna and rushed to use up all our Pfizer, without even reserving second doses. Whatever small Pfizer supply we're going to get will go to the under-30s from July.

I even read about guy who had a first Pfizer shot but has now been told that he will have to wait beyond 12 weeks for his second, with a still unknown date of when he might get it, or have AstraZeneca as a second dose instead.

Remember that scientist from Oxford last year confidently talking about their wonderful vaccine? It was all over the news as being our greatest hope, but it turned out to be the worst of the bunch (except for the Chinese and Russian vaccines, of course).

Well, I know someone who worked the trial data for Modernas and they chose Pzifers.

They didn't care.

....and you apparently don’t care to, (or can’t) spell r261.

What does it matter? Any vaccine is better than none. Just get the jab.

Pfizer and Moderna vaccines do not appear to pose serious risk during pregnancy, new study suggests

From CNN Health’s Jessica Firger

The Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines don’t appear to pose any serious risks during pregnancy, an early analysis of real-world data from the United States shows.

The analysis only looked at Pfizer and Moderna shots, which are both based on newer mRNA technology, so the findings are not relevant to vaccines such as those made by like AstraZeneca or Johnson & Johnson.

The new data, along with existing research showing mRNA vaccines are effective in pregnant and breastfeeding people, suggest that the benefits of the vaccines outweigh the risks.

The analysis, published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine, looked at the data of more than 35,000 pregnant people who had reported their health status through CDC reporting systems, including a smartphone app, and followed up with a group of 3,958 pregnant participants who had received an mRNA vaccine.

It found that adverse outcomes, including pregnancy loss and preterm births, were not significantly higher in people who had been given a vaccine.

R262 yer darn tootin