Theatre Gossip #416 - The "Do You Know the Way to San Jose FOLLIES" Edition
|by Anonymous||reply 366||10 hours ago|
"There's a s--- It's terribly messy!"
|by Anonymous||reply 1||03/31/2021|
Previous Thread (Now Paywalled).
|by Anonymous||reply 2||03/31/2021|
Yay! A new Follies I haven't seen.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||03/31/2021|
Pay the two bucks, ya cheap slag.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||03/31/2021|
I'm still waiting for the girls upstairs
|by Anonymous||reply 5||03/31/2021|
San Jose needed Miss Warwick as Carlotta.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||03/31/2021|
[Quote] Pay the two bucks, ya cheap slag.
Sling yer 'ook!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||Last Tuesday at 10:51 AM|
Can we discuss They’re Playing Our Song here or do I have to go to the They’re Playing Our Song thread? Asking for a friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||Last Tuesday at 11:37 AM|
Sure. It's thee ay tur.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||Last Tuesday at 11:58 AM|
for the die hard fan.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||Last Tuesday at 12:13 PM|
This is the brilliant thread title you couldn't wait to foist upon us, OP? I hope you're blocked forever from being able to start new threads, because you fucking suck at it.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||Last Tuesday at 12:45 PM|
One of the die-hard Sondheim fans on twitter reposted a tweet purporting to contain a porn star's "diary" entry describing in pretty detail his sexual encounter with the man....only the first page, and there must have been more, but unfortunately the tweet and the responses were taken down fairly quickly. Pity.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||Last Tuesday at 12:47 PM|
A current porn star or someone who tricked with Travolta in the '80s?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||Last Tuesday at 12:51 PM|
Jeffrey Seller seems quite slappable.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||Last Tuesday at 12:52 PM|
Not current, r13. The journal entry, or whatever it was, was typed on an IBM selectric with an italic font.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||Last Tuesday at 1:00 PM|
Were there any typos?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||Last Tuesday at 1:05 PM|
A sexual encounter with Sondheim? Was there a dungeon involved? I'll be really disappointed if there's not.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||Last Tuesday at 2:07 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 18||Last Tuesday at 2:29 PM|
Well give us a summary!
|by Anonymous||reply 19||Last Tuesday at 2:39 PM|
A lot of making out, then proceeded to the bedroom....average size cock---and that was the end of the page. We'll never know what was on page 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||Last Tuesday at 2:49 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 21||Last Tuesday at 2:50 PM|
Sondheim is now 91 years old. I doubt his sex life is much beyond a kiss and a cuddle
|by Anonymous||reply 22||Last Tuesday at 6:26 PM|
Is his dungeon mechanically kitted out? I presume he just presses buttons.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||Last Tuesday at 6:29 PM|
Since nobody has used a typewriter, much less a selectric, in many years, I'd guess this was an encounter in the 70s or 80s.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||Last Tuesday at 6:37 PM|
It's a very short road From the pinch and the punch To the paunch and the pouch and the pension It's a very short road To the ten thousandth lunch And the belch and the grouch and the sigh
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Tuesday at 6:46 PM|
[quote] Is his dungeon mechanically kitted out?
These days it's more like knitted out.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||Last Tuesday at 7:12 PM|
I wanted to post this old, old clip from Chuck Barris' primetime variety show, "The Rah, Rah show". On the Gong Show, he had these three doing "Chatanooga Choo Choo", calling themselves the Pointless Sisters. I remember one of the judges was Rex Reed who said he was willing to undergo psychological tests, but he thought the act was sensational. Apropos to this thread, he noted that it was like "Broadway's Follies on acid." Especially watch the completely all out and over the top performance of the lead singer. Ethel Shutta, take note.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Tuesday at 8:44 PM|
[quote] Sondheim is now 91 years old. I doubt his sex life is much beyond a kiss and a cuddle
That's only after he finishes screaming "plow me in my shitpussy!"
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Tuesday at 8:48 PM|
Isn't he a dom top?
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Tuesday at 8:51 PM|
like anyone on DL can answer that question from personal knowledge.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Wednesday at 10:04 AM|
I love old musicals. They have something special in them
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Wednesday at 11:11 AM|
Dance a Little Closer had 25 previews and closed at the opening night.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Wednesday at 11:21 AM|
Young Rita Moreno in Gantry. Had 31 previews and closed the day it opened. Rita had beautiful voice but it didn’t save this show in early 1970.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Wednesday at 11:28 AM|
Joan Diener singing very beautifully. Yul wasn’t playing in one musical only. It got just 12 perfomances, last one was its opening night.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Wednesday at 11:33 AM|
I am no Peters fan but I think young Bernadette was rather ideal for this role. She has childlike mannerism like Giuletta had, althoug Giuletta was superior to Peters. Nevertheless the show was a short running flop running only two weeks. The movie La Strada is my top 5 movies.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Wednesday at 11:38 AM|
Why are you spamming the thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Wednesday at 11:41 AM|
R36 Who? Me? You get to decide what to post here? We can only post certain musical clips? Are you aware all of these short lived Broadway shows? Are we supposed to talk same old things thread after thread? Is this spamming? I don’t think so. I just want to post different stuff. This is theater thread and I am posting theater clips. What’s the problem? Don’t read nor open any of these if you prefer to talk about Follies.
This is from Ed Sullivan show in 1953. The shortest running musical to win Tony for best musical. Just 6 performances. But those men were handsome.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Wednesday at 11:50 AM|
Any Dolores in that clip?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Wednesday at 11:51 AM|
^^ Sorry, won best actress in a musical
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Wednesday at 11:51 AM|
One more at this point before more people will get angry. I just wanted to post perhaps a bit unknown Broadway history. I am not trying to make problems. Sorry. Joyful Noise lasted two weeks and closed right before Christmas in 1966 and after hearing the song I can imagine why.
Go on, let the Follies discussion roll on and on and on.......
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Wednesday at 11:58 AM|
The only issue with many posts from the same person in one thread is that it skews the ratio of posts to posters, which is what causes a thread to become paywalled. It's an antispam measure on the part of Muriel.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Wednesday at 12:00 PM|
I love Karen Morrow's little anecdote about her flop nonmusical play in New York. After the show, a queen patted her hand and said "you shoulda sang, honey."
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Wednesday at 12:01 PM|
I mean... if you are going to post about A Joyful Noise, at least post an entertaining number. Choreography by Michael Bennett, with Tommy Tune, Baayork Lee and Leland Palmer, among others.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Last Wednesday at 12:09 PM|
If you post endless youtube videos Muriel will put the thread behind a paywall.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Last Wednesday at 12:22 PM|
[quote]It's an antispam measure on the part of Muriel.
And paying your fucking measly 2 bucks a month is the anti-anti spam measure.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Last Wednesday at 12:29 PM|
[Quote] And paying your fucking measly 2 bucks a month is the anti-anti spam measure.
I don't wholly disagree, M. But paying puts you in the pen with some bitter motherfuckers.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||Last Wednesday at 12:31 PM|
Karen Morrow has one of the greatest belting voices of all time, but she's not much of an actress. It's a shame, too, because she has the voice for a whole bunch of great roles and could have probably sung them better than anyone, but I saw footage of her in Gypsy somewhere in stock and she's an awkward, stilted actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Last Wednesday at 12:52 PM|
I couldn't actually get through this. Even for playing an unsophisticated character, the performance is tasteless.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Last Wednesday at 12:54 PM|
There was a Merv Griffin "Broadway Belters" (well, "Broadway Belters and Ann Miller") episode on YouTube. Morrow came across very callow and she must have been well into her thirties at the time. The other belters were Ethel Merman and Dolores Gray.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Wednesday at 12:56 PM|
Morrow does quite a lovely "It Never Entered My Mind" here. It's not unusual for performers who come up through musical theatre/variety to err on the side of schtick.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||Last Wednesday at 12:58 PM|
It's not even that Morrow does schtick - it's that she hardly registers as a performer. She has a great voice, but it's not enough to make her compelling or competent enough to watch for over 2 hours.
I find the same thing true of Betty Buckley. She always makes me sleepy when she's doing anything but singing on stage, but to her credit, she's very good on film. Seems odd that she'll be more remembered as one of the great Broadway belters when many of her best performances have been on film and not stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||Last Wednesday at 1:00 PM|
Thanks so much for all these wonderful old video clips.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||Last Wednesday at 1:00 PM|
As Long as He Needs Me.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||Last Wednesday at 1:05 PM|
Morrow was an absolute hoot as Aunt Minerva in the short-lived '70s series Tabitha.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||Last Wednesday at 1:08 PM|
I Want My Hat Back.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||Last Wednesday at 1:54 PM|
Karen as Mrs. Sally Adams--
|by Anonymous||reply 56||Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM|
Karen is fun in that Madam clip. She does less well with "I Don't Want to Know." She sings it so damn straight.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||Last Wednesday at 2:55 PM|
This is probably one of Dolores Gray's last performances. Betty Garrett can be seen at the end.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||Last Wednesday at 2:56 PM|
Carnival in Flanders
|by Anonymous||reply 59||Last Wednesday at 3:27 PM|
The Babylove Miracle Show
|by Anonymous||reply 60||Last Wednesday at 3:33 PM|
[quote]The only issue with many posts from the same person in one thread is that it skews the ratio of posts to posters, which is what causes a thread to become paywalled. It's an antispam measure on the part of Muriel.
Oh, is THIS why so many of the theatre threads got paywalled? I always figured it was because the theatre threads are some of the most popular and enduring threads, so it's a good way to get posters to pay up. For the record, I had a good year, so I'm paying my dues to Muriel and her gang.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||Last Wednesday at 3:37 PM|
[Quote] Oh, is THIS why so many of the theatre threads got paywalled?
Yes. When Richard Madden was revealed to be living with that twink, a thread filled up in a single day. There were many posts but also many posters. At not point was the thread paywalled. The theatre threads have a lot fewer posters.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||Last Wednesday at 3:44 PM|
*At no point
|by Anonymous||reply 63||Last Wednesday at 3:44 PM|
I loved that Gantry clip. Not that it was particularly good, but I’ve never seen nor heard anything from the show before. Moreno had a gorgeous voice back then. And how genuinely weird to see Robert Shaw in a musical.
There have been other attempts to musicalized Elmer Gantry, right? Have any of them been any good?
I still think there’s a terrific show to be written about Aimee McPherson (the model for Sister Sharon), but I imagine Kathie Lee's show salted that ground for good.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM|
Moreno's "Some People" is shockingly amateurish.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM|
Why don’t they give Follies! the “Hamilton” treatment and update it for today’s Broadway?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM|
So with all this rare footage, where the hell is Darling of the Day?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||Last Wednesday at 5:11 PM|
Onslow is sat on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||Last Wednesday at 5:14 PM|
I thought Karen Morrow sounded pretty good with the book songs that were cut from Ballroom. She sang them on one of the Lost in Boston cds.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||Last Wednesday at 6:27 PM|
I didn't realize In & Of Itself was on Hulu. The last time I was in NY, a friend was desperately trying to get us tickets. She was so forlorn when we were unable to get them since the run was ending that month. She looked at me with... almost pity because I'd never get to experience this groundbreaking theatrical experience that she'd seen twice already. I was also disappointed.
Until I watched the show tonight. Jesus Christ. What a load of crock.
Boo hoo. Emotionally stunted magic nerd had a dyke mom, met a drunk stranger in Europe who stared into his soul and played a few cons on cardsharks so now he's going stare pensively into the horizon while you, simple audience members, just try and comprehend what it's like to be such a tragically gifted philosopher-cum-illusionist.
Get outta here.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||Last Wednesday at 7:41 PM|
R57, can you please attempt to explain what the hell you mean by your comment that Karen Morrow's performance of "I Don't Want to Know" is "so straight?" If you mean that you don't think she sings it with as much sadness, regret and even anger as one might want to sing it in the show, perhaps you should consider that she was singing it out of context in a concert.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||Last Wednesday at 8:09 PM|
Karen Morrow was a regular on Jim Nabor's tv variety show along with Frank Sutton, who had played Sgt. Carter on "Gomer Pyle". Morrow was fun in sketches, and of course, her voice was marvelous. Another really good belter who doesn't quite get her due is Joanne Worley.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||Last Wednesday at 9:46 PM|
Remember a couple of years ago when the NY Times was going to run a series about Broadway abusers but legal problems caused them to kill most of the stories? Allegedly they killed a big story on Rudin but maybe now the dam is breaking. I just posted this Hollywood Reporter story on another thread:
|by Anonymous||reply 73||Last Wednesday at 10:01 PM|
^ And I just posted in yet another thread that the according to local NYC news, the first off Broadway show reopened last night. Don't remember the name and sorry it's after 2am, I'm too sleepy to search.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||Last Wednesday at 10:15 PM|
I don't think it was "legal problems" that caused the Times .to kill that series. That's what was said but I think it was serious threats of getting all their Broadway advertising pulled. Like all newspapers, The Times runs on a shoe string these days and the financial loss would have been significant if not devastating.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||Last Wednesday at 10:38 PM|
R67 There have been music from it before. Pat Routledge sang the songs beautifully.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||Last Wednesday at 11:51 PM|
Worley was not good as Miss Hannigan. You almost expect her to say "was that a chicken joke?" None of the timing or sadistic joy that Sally Struthers brought to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||Last Thursday at 12:00 AM|
Neil Diamond jukebox musical opens next year in Boston.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||Last Thursday at 12:08 AM|
The music for Darling of the Day has never been obscure or hard to find. RCA Victor put up a substantial amount of the original production costs, partially to secure its rights to make the OBCR, which is easy to find. But there is little if any video.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||Last Thursday at 12:09 AM|
Isn't Not on Your Nelly on video or is it just stills along with the recording? I thought I saw it once.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||Last Thursday at 12:28 AM|
There's a youtube video of Not on Your Nelly but the audio is Routledge on the OBCR with a production photo her and Price as the video.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||Last Thursday at 12:41 AM|
Just stills, R80. "Not On Your Nellie" was performed by Patricia Routledge and company on Ed Sullivan on February 11, 1968, but the video has never turned up. It's a Holy Grail for show queens.
I saw one of the York's incarnations of Darling of the Day. It's a smart, tuneful and charming show that just has this flop energy about it, so it never quite lifts off.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||Last Thursday at 12:42 AM|
Didn't DOTD have many problems out of town, going through multiple directors and book writers? Sounds like there was quite a bit to like but they never got it quite right.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||Last Thursday at 1:09 AM|
Yes. Also title changes. I think it was variously titled Alice Chalice, Married Alive, Buried Alive, and The Great Adventure along the way before the not especially meaningful Darling of the Day stuck. (Married Alive is probably the title that makes the most sense with the plot, though none of them are really great).
Jule Styne and Yip Harburg kept writing songs at the request of an ever-changing creative team. Final book writer Nunnally Johnson removed his credit before the Broadway opening, so no book is credited in the Playbill. It opened at the George Abbott Theatre on West 54th, known as a notorious house of flops. Although several major critics liked it, it got a typically stupid review from Clive Barnes in The New York Times, and that was that. Even with Vincent Price croaking his way through the score, and a clunker song or two, it still has quite a bit going for it on disc - with Patricia Routledge at the top of the list. She is so charming and winning.
In the York version, I felt like the show just needs a really good edit. The songs, good as they are, tend to run too long. The book that exists is somewhat slow and laborious. The plot is clever and also touching, so you just want the pace to be quickened and to get on with it. But it's one of the few flops of which people say "there's a good show in there" where I would agree,
|by Anonymous||reply 84||Last Thursday at 1:45 AM|
Jesus, if ever there was an unofficial theme song for DL it would be "Not on Your Nelly."
|by Anonymous||reply 85||Last Thursday at 1:56 AM|
Andy Mientus and friends are here to prove they're still the wokest!
[quote]We’re going to make theater this summer. Real, in person theater. Immersive theater, devised democratically by a diverse company. It’s going to be out of this world. I hope you’ll come see the maiden voyage by @ForestofArdenCo, ALIEN/NATION
[quote]The third show, “Alien/Nation,” is a world premiere immersive production that asks audiences to journey through Williamstown by foot or car and “plunge themselves into the center of stories inspired by real events that took place in Western Massachusetts in 1969,” according to a news release. Scheduled to run from July 20 to Aug. 8, it is the brainchild of the Tony Award-nominated director Michael Arden and a company called the Forest of Arden, who devised it along with the playwrights Jen Silverman and Eric Berryman. Early last summer, Arden and some of his collaborators created a similar, experimental piece called “American Dream Study” in New York’s Hudson Valley.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||Last Thursday at 2:06 AM|
Is Michael Arden still fat?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||Last Thursday at 2:09 AM|
Gooning is his latest thing, apparently. And Andy has gone from describing himself as a top to vers. So they've had a productive lockdown.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||Last Thursday at 2:15 AM|
[quote] Jesus, if ever there was an unofficial theme song for DL it would be "Not on Your Nelly."
It should be! It's a hell of a song. The one true showstopper in the score. But I am sure you are celebrating it for the meaning of nelly around these parts.
The expression, "not on your nellie," incidentally, originates from Cockney rhyming slang. It means "not on your life," The origin of the expression in late 19th century UK appears to have been "not on your puff" (for the intake of air your breathe in order to live), which in Cockney rhyme, for some unknown reason, became "not on your nellie duff" and then shortened to "not on your nellie."
And this is more about Darling of the Day than I ever intended to write at this hour of the morning.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||Last Thursday at 2:22 AM|
Is Michael Arden still into piss play?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||Last Thursday at 2:33 AM|
Still, R73, you've got to admire someone who can achieve this (from the linked article):
[quote]The HR person left in an ambulance due to a panic attack. That was the environment.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||Last Thursday at 2:35 AM|
That Karen Morrow clip of Hostess with the Mostess is amazing in her ability to find ways to vary what's ultimately a pretty monotonous string of verses - the distinction may be that she was great at acting *within* a song but not when not singing - also check out her I'm Still Here vid from Long Beach ...
|by Anonymous||reply 92||Last Thursday at 3:00 AM|
DOTD might have worked with a leading man to match. Routledge. I think Alfred Drake was considered. But it also was a bit out of step with its time. Barnes hated it, but Kerr followed up with a glowing review. Btu too late. This was the HAIR era, and ersatz rock scores were the darlings of the day.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||Last Thursday at 3:28 AM|
Thank you r73. I was amazed this hadn't hit DL and I was gonna post today if it didn't. A sign of the times (and perhaps the decline of DL) that it took so long to show up here. But of course, there's [italic]Follies[/italic] and [italic]Darling of the Day[/italic] to talk about.
Anyhow, who here has first-hand Rudin experiences to share? Gossip, people. He's hung up on my twice, and I was once in the office for one of the rolling 7AM calls, and the assistant panicked when I actually answered.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||Last Thursday at 3:45 AM|
r77 do you have a favorite or complete Struthers video link?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||Last Thursday at 3:45 AM|
There's an active DL thread about that story, R94. Darling of the Day makes a nice respite.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||Last Thursday at 3:49 AM|
I really liked In and Of Itself (the movie, didn't see it live). I felt DelGaudio took a while to warm up in front of the camera and the whole Rouletista story fell flat for me because of his performance, but after that, it was smooth sailing and I found the illusions to be fascinating. I'm not a huge magic fan or anything, but this worked for me. However, I can completely understand why someone would have the opposite reaction.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||Last Thursday at 3:54 AM|
R73 The Rudin stuff reminds me, WEHT William Ivey Long? Is he going to be welcomed back when Broadway reopens?
|by Anonymous||reply 98||Last Thursday at 3:56 AM|
Welcomed back? He never left.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||Last Thursday at 4:01 AM|
This happened last year, just after the pandemic hit, and got lost in the Broadway diaspora.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||Last Thursday at 4:12 AM|
[quote]He's hung up on my twice
I shudder to to imagine what he did to your once.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||Last Thursday at 4:15 AM|
[Quote] Is Michael Arden still into piss play?
No. He's had sufficient.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||Last Thursday at 5:47 AM|
It's about fucking time someone exposed Scott Rudin. He's the biggest asshole I've ever met, and I've met Jeffrey Seller and Bernie Telsey!
|by Anonymous||reply 103||Last Thursday at 6:28 AM|
William Ivey Long is a pig, but you can work for him without fucking him.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||Last Thursday at 6:32 AM|
"But of course, there's Follies and Darling of the Day to talk about."
You were sneering when you typed that, weren't you, r94?
|by Anonymous||reply 105||Last Thursday at 8:16 AM|
This thread is in bad need of Lola Falana.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||Last Thursday at 8:19 AM|
What's the deal with Bernie Telsey? He has tons of young guys and girls working in his casting office, most of whom are scared of or have no idea what to do with a big legit voice when they hear one.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||Last Thursday at 8:32 AM|
Did someone just mention "Follies"? This video pieces together the entire show from clips, photos and a complete audio track.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||Last Thursday at 8:53 AM|
[Quote] What's the deal with Bernie Telsey? He has tons of young guys and girls working in his casting office, most of whom are scared of or have no idea what to do with a big legit voice when they hear one.
Are shows written for big legit voices nowadays?
|by Anonymous||reply 109||Last Thursday at 9:05 AM|
William has always been a treat to know. Rudin came at me once, but a very powerful agent squelched it, and I quote, "Stop it."
|by Anonymous||reply 110||Last Thursday at 9:06 AM|
[quote] DOTD might have worked with a leading man to match. Routledge. I think Alfred Drake was considered. But it also was a bit out of step with its time. Barnes hated it, but Kerr followed up with a glowing review. Btu too late. This was the HAIR era, and ersatz rock scores were the darlings of the day.
Clive Barnes did not review "Darling of the Day" on opening night; he left it to second-stringer Dan Sullivan, who didn't like it. Walter Kerr in the Sunday Times liked it, and Barnes mentioned it favorably in a subsequent column. But Sullivan's opening-night review killed it.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||Last Thursday at 9:12 AM|
R109 Some revivals are for legit voices, also some newer ones like "Light in the Piazza" as well as some others that place in the past. The jukebox ones, no.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||Last Thursday at 9:40 AM|
Seems like the Rudin expose is resounding with a thump. Hasn't been picked up by other media outfits, lots of silence from the powerful people he worked with, and even people who love to tweet (ie the Jen Tepper crowd) are quiet.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||Last Thursday at 10:06 AM|
He's honestly so insane people have fear
|by Anonymous||reply 114||Last Thursday at 10:13 AM|
And yet, Telsey & Company casts fucking EVERYTHING.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||Last Thursday at 11:03 AM|
R95, Sally has been doing the role since Nell Carter left the touring production so more people have seen her than probably any other Miss Hannigan. She's really, really good. She adds a lot of '70s schtick, like Lily Tomlin's Ernestine laugh or a Mae West interpretation when she's flirting with Bundles.. I really like how she looks like she could be an orphan herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||Last Thursday at 11:25 AM|
[quote] Why don’t they give Follies! the “Hamilton” treatment and update it for today’s Broadway?
Because Hamilton sucks and Follies rules!
|by Anonymous||reply 117||Last Thursday at 11:43 AM|
“Is Michael Arden still into piss play?“
Honey, he ain’t playing.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||Last Thursday at 11:43 AM|
This thread is piss elegant.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||Last Thursday at 11:45 AM|
Sally doing Ernie Flatt...
|by Anonymous||reply 120||Last Thursday at 11:46 AM|
I've seen Struthers in several workshops and readings, and she's always really good. I feel bad she's rarely cast. She should have had a better career on Broadway
|by Anonymous||reply 121||Last Thursday at 11:57 AM|
I've heard Sally is one of the nicest folks in the biz.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||Last Thursday at 12:36 PM|
I went to see Sally in Hello Dolly in Ogunquit with 100% intention of saying I saw what I thought would be a train wreck BUT she was funny , great stage presence and the audience LOVED her... I was happy to be mistaken
|by Anonymous||reply 123||Last Thursday at 12:38 PM|
I wondered what it would be like to be vaccinated and back in a theater. My panic lifted as soon as the lights went down:
|by Anonymous||reply 124||Last Thursday at 12:49 PM|
Uggh, can’t these people wait until September to premiere their precious, pretentious works of art?
|by Anonymous||reply 125||Last Thursday at 1:25 PM|
that photo at r124 looks like what would happen if Norbert Butz got really realiy fat on cortisone
|by Anonymous||reply 126||Last Thursday at 1:43 PM|
Sally seems like a great gal. Always entertaining.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||Last Thursday at 1:49 PM|
Isn't Sally one of those "singers" incapable of sticking to the key the orchestra are playing?
|by Anonymous||reply 128||Last Thursday at 1:51 PM|
[Quote] Some revivals are for legit voices, also some newer ones like "Light in the Piazza" as well as some others that place in the past. The jukebox ones, no.
When former boybander Matt Morrison was cast to sing "Younger Than Springtime," I knew it was over for legit voices - yes, even with Paulo Zsot as Emile.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||Last Thursday at 1:51 PM|
R129 I though Szot was better in his acting than his singing. He hasn't the biggest voice, even though he sings opera, as he does the more lyrical repertoire, but in "South Pacific" he really didn't sell the the curtain ending "Never let her go!" at the end of Act 1 nor did he sing out quite as legit as Pinza on the recording. I'm not sure if the director told him to hold back. Hell, that same director had both Lauren Ambrose (on the recording) and Laura Benanti, who I saw, hold back on "Show Me" probably Eliza Dolittle's most thrilling song in "My Fair Lady".
|by Anonymous||reply 130||Last Thursday at 1:56 PM|
I wasn't impressed with Szot at all when I saw him in London. The Nellie was not even community theatre level quality singing.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||Last Thursday at 1:58 PM|
Isn't more likely that Ambrose and Benanti held back to protect their voices. Neither is known as an eight show "slave."
|by Anonymous||reply 132||Last Thursday at 1:59 PM|
FYI William Ivey Long was banned from participating in the Netflix filming of his show DIANA and he is unlikely to be offered any decent Broadway work once Broadway comes back. Word is out among his union as well as Equity and SSD&C and The League. He's over.
Can anyone tell me what DARLING OF THE DAY is about? Just a couple of sentences will do, TIA!
|by Anonymous||reply 133||Last Thursday at 2:05 PM|
Ambrose hadn't done a run before like anywhere, but she has a lovely voice. Benanti has, though she has a spotty reputation for canceling. Both probably were aware that Julie Andrews ran into vocal troubles with the role which Julie first did as a lass of 21. But "Wouldn't It Be Loverly", is a charm song, "Just You Wait" -- ok, angry, harder sing, "I Could Have Danced All Night" totally legit, only goes to F at end, "Without You" mostly middle voice and sung passive-aggressively, are Eliza's other songs. "Just You Wait" and "Show Me" are big powerhouse solos. Granted, Eliza has to do the whole of "Pygmalion" in her book scenes, but I was rather disappointed even on the recording Ambrose holds back (that's probably how she did it in performance). Benanti is capable of a gutsier performance, though, in "She Loves Me" she got right off the high B at the end of "Ice Cream", so I guess she is conscious of not overtaxing her instrument.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||Last Thursday at 2:05 PM|
Plus "The Rain in Spain" is an easy sing too - to complete Eliza's songs in "My Fair Lady".
|by Anonymous||reply 135||Last Thursday at 2:07 PM|
Bart Sher is a total hack whose entire fame is based on directing perfect big musicals with big budgets like South Pacific, My Fair Lady and The King and I but totally fails with new material and even some other classics (Fiddler).
|by Anonymous||reply 136||Last Thursday at 2:13 PM|
R128 Sally has good intonation (sings in key) in that "Annie" video. Very funny, too! She was very pretty back in her "All in the Family" days.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||Last Thursday at 2:17 PM|
[quote] Can anyone tell me what DARLING OF THE DAY is about? Just a couple of sentences will do, TIA!
I tried to do it, but it is quite intricately plotted. So here is the synopsis from Wikipedia.
"In 1905 London, Priam Farll is an artist, brilliant, unconventional and shy, although he can be violently outspoken. He once offended Queen Victoria and was exiled to the South Pacific (shades of Gauguin), but Edward VII has succeeded to the throne, and Farll has been recalled to London to receive a knighthood. Appalled by "society's" expectations of its "darling of the day" (a common Victorian/Edwardian term meaning something like "fashionable celebrity") Farll seizes the chance to "get out of the world alive" when his faithful butler Henry Leek suddenly dies, and their identities are confused by an official. Instead of correcting the error, Farll quietly assumes the identity of the deceased, and Leek's corpse is officially buried in Westminster Abbey as the famous artist. He soon finds himself married to Alice Challice, a bright, well-to-do widow who had been corresponding with the real Henry Leek – and settles down to a happy "upper working class" existence. Farll continues to paint, and when his wife runs into financial difficulties he sells a few paintings. Complications naturally ensue, and his "cover" becomes increasingly flimsy. Just as it looks as if he will be compelled to resume his real identity, a piece of truly Gilbertian nonsense brings all to a satisfactory conclusion, and he is allowed to stay plain Henry Leek after all."
|by Anonymous||reply 138||Last Thursday at 2:21 PM|
I should have read it more carefully. As I remember it, SHE sells the paintings, and the art world, recognizing his distinctive style, discovers that Farll is alive. The "Gilbertian nonsense" referred to is the song, "Butler in the Abbey," where Farll posits that if it became widely known that a butler is buried at Westminster, it would lead to England's shame and ruination. (It sounds crazy, but the Yip Harburg lyrics are pretty sensational).
|by Anonymous||reply 139||Last Thursday at 2:26 PM|
How many DUIs does Sally have? Just the one, dear?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||Last Thursday at 2:32 PM|
How many DUIs does Sally have? Just the one, dear?
|by Anonymous||reply 141||Last Thursday at 2:32 PM|
Speaking of Sally, do any elders have memories of the female production of The Odd Couple? Was it just a gimmick production or did it speak for itself pretty well?
|by Anonymous||reply 142||Last Thursday at 2:33 PM|
Loved the female Odd Couple. Sally was fucking hilarious. Wasn’t crazy about Rita Moreno but went back to see Brenda Vaccaro who was every bit as funny as Sally. Lewis J Stadlen and Tony Shaloub were great as the male version of the Pigeon sisters. I’m usually more of a silent laugher in the theatre but I burst out laughing several times. MARY!
|by Anonymous||reply 143||Last Thursday at 2:50 PM|
Darling of the Day is based on a novel called Buried Alive
|by Anonymous||reply 144||Last Thursday at 2:53 PM|
I could swear I saw the actual video of Not On Your Nelly quite a while ago. Could it have been posted and then got pulled for rights reasons? Like some of the stuff on bluegobo?
|by Anonymous||reply 145||Last Thursday at 2:58 PM|
Can someone put the TV performance of Susan Johnson's "Almost Like Being I Love" back up on Youtube, thankyouplease.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||Last Thursday at 3:02 PM|
Romeo and Juliet with Josh O'Connor.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||Last Thursday at 3:11 PM|
The Portrait of Dorian Gray with Dame Joanna Lumley.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||Last Thursday at 3:15 PM|
Alfred Enoch is playing whom?
|by Anonymous||reply 149||Last Thursday at 3:17 PM|
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|by Anonymous||reply 151||Last Thursday at 3:19 PM|
Maybe I never did see it. I'm trusting my memory less and less.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||Last Thursday at 3:37 PM|
r145, if you did see it after the original, you're a rare bird. I saw it first run because a friend was in the chorus singing behind Ms Routledge. This was WAY before VCRs, so no way I could have preserved it. But she was a hoot.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||Last Thursday at 4:36 PM|
You would think with Routledge's increased profile via Alan Bennett, Victoria Wood, Hyacinth etc. that the BBC would have recorded her in the role for their musicals in concert series. It would have made more sense than Diana Rigg in A Little Night Music or Kim Criswell in Call Me Madam.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||Last Thursday at 4:41 PM|
Ambrose had a lovely voice as Eliza and could easily handle the score, but she had a weird quality when she sang. It was almost like she was stepping out of character to deliver the songs and go right back in when it came time to do another scene. Very odd. Didn't seem to know what to do with her body during the musical numbers. It was awkward, but something a director should have caught early on.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||Last Thursday at 5:10 PM|
^ She looked bizarre.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||Last Thursday at 5:14 PM|
I'm confused. Alfie Enoch is playing Three Sisters?
|by Anonymous||reply 157||Last Thursday at 5:21 PM|
Why does Dorian Gray have such bad skin?
And why doesn't Russell Tovey appear in the trailer?
I call bullshit!
|by Anonymous||reply 158||Last Thursday at 5:29 PM|
Moss Hart is famous for spoon feeding Andrews the role. And this was in the original production where there was no precedent. I guess Sher is no Moss Hart. We have pretenders.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||Last Thursday at 5:39 PM|
I'm confused. Enoch Snow is playing Alfie Boe?
|by Anonymous||reply 160||Last Thursday at 5:43 PM|
[quote]Isn't Sally one of those "singers" incapable of sticking to the key the orchestra are playing?
Totally inaccurate. Next question? (But please don't bother if it's going to be such a stupid one.)
|by Anonymous||reply 161||Last Thursday at 8:35 PM|
Who needs questions...
|by Anonymous||reply 162||Last Thursday at 8:41 PM|
Re “Nellie” the previous week, Sullivan introduced Pat Routledge from the audience and said she would be back the following week to sing from her show. THAT episode was on YouTube for a while, but not the one with her doing the number.
Back when all those Sullivan clips were making the rounds, the man who.controlled the rights had a hissy fit when he found out. He went on the warpath and got them mostly pulled. Then he put out a volume of the Sullivan Broadway clips on dvd, figuring there was a fortune to be made. It bombed so there was never an incentive to release any more. Whether the “Nellie” episode exists in the official Sullivan archives or whether it’s just permanently lost is unknown. It
|by Anonymous||reply 163||Last Thursday at 8:49 PM|
There's been a lot of Sullivan clips uploaded on their official channel. Perhaps it will turn up.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||Last Thursday at 8:57 PM|
Is there a way of finding out who else performed on that show?
|by Anonymous||reply 165||Last Friday at 2:58 AM|
Yes. That info is readily available.
Summary: Music: Roberta Peters (soprano) - "Shadow Song" (from Giacomo Meyerbeer's opera "Dinorah"); The Lennon Sisters sing "California Dreamin'" & "Where Are the Words?"; Broadway: Vincent Price and Patricia Routledge perform a scene from the musical "Darling of the Day" (which ran on Broadway from Jan. 27 - Feb. 24, 1968). Segment includes Patricia Routledge singing "Not On Your Nellie."; Comedy: Morey Amsterdam, Totie Fields, Hendra & Ullett (comedy team) . Jimmy Nelson (ventriloquist). Also appearing: Eddie Albert (actor) - recites excerpts from Carl Sandburg's writings on Abraham Lincoln. Vaughn Bullivant (water skiing champion, appearing on film?). Les Dollies (unicycle act).
|by Anonymous||reply 166||Last Friday at 3:22 AM|
When I saw Pirates at the Delacorte I had no idea who she was. She knocked me out and I thought Who is this lady? It is so unfortunate she did not come to Broadway. Parsons was understudy level. At the Delacorte it was quite the event with the audience building into a frenzy and practically roaring after With Cat Like Tread. I went twice and got seats front center both times. This was at a time when if you got there early enough you got terrific seats. I believe that changed and all those seats went to sponsors after Papp's death.
I understand there is a new video of the Delacorte far superior to the one that has been making the rounds for years and which I found a real disappointment.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||Last Friday at 3:25 AM|
I should mention that the audience was brought to a frenzy with the one two punch of Rose's I am the Very Model at the end of act one and then Tony Azito's performance at the beginning of act 2 of When the Foeman Bares His Steel. This was already an embarrassment of riches. Then came With Catlike Tread and it was too much and the audience turned to bedlam.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||Last Friday at 3:39 AM|
[quote] I understand there is a new video of the Delacorte far superior to the one that has been making the rounds for years and which I found a real disappointment.
Yes, that video was posted here on a prior thread. While still not perfect, it was vastly better than what was commercially released.
I only saw it indoors, but agree that Pirates was absolutely delightful. My understanding is that Patricia Routledge had committed to a project in London (was it Noises Off?) and couldn't or wasn't willing to continue. Too bad, as it would have been the one hit of her snakebit Broadway career.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||Last Friday at 3:45 AM|
Damn I [italic]glanced[/italic] at that Struthers [italic]Annie[/italic] clip above, and now YouTube is serving me [italic]Annie[/italic] after fucking [italic]Annie[/italic]. Who is Hannigan in this one, you old queens?
|by Anonymous||reply 170||Last Friday at 4:00 AM|
Patricia in Pirates.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||Last Friday at 4:09 AM|
R171, that is the film that has been going around for years.
I always thought it was pretty good, but now I want to see the newer found one that R167 spoke about.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||Last Friday at 4:11 AM|
"When former boybander Matt Morrison was cast to sing "Younger Than Springtime," I knew it was over for legit voices - yes, even with Paulo Zsot as Emile."
Matthew James Morrison (born October 30, 1978) is an American actor, dancer, and singer-songwriter. Morrison is known for starring in multiple Broadway and Off-Broadway productions, including his portrayal of Link Larkin in Hairspray on Broadway, and for his role as Will Schuester on the Fox television show Glee (2009–2015). Morrison is signed with Adam Levine's 222 Records and received a Tony Award nomination for his featured role as Fabrizio Nacarelli in the musical The Light in the Piazza. From March 2015 to January 2016, Morrison starred in the lead role of J.M. Barrie in the Broadway production of Finding Neverland.
Don't see any boyband mentioned. Although this version is more poppy than bombastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||Last Friday at 4:15 AM|
R172 Ha, fucking posted the wrong one. Duh!
|by Anonymous||reply 174||Last Friday at 4:22 AM|
Pat blah blah
|by Anonymous||reply 175||Last Friday at 4:30 AM|
[quote]Moss Hart is famous for spoon feeding Andrews the role.
That's hardly what Moss Hart is famous for, R159. What a silly thing to say about a man with Hart's rich and accomplished career.
He was MFL's director. Andrews was the show's leading lady. She was only 21 years of age and he directed her.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||Last Friday at 5:07 AM|
Thinking about Pirates of Penzance and some of its showstoppers made me wish Graciela Daniele had had a better Broadway career. She's one of the Bennett and Fosse disciples who has choreographed and/or directed some great work (as well as her share of clunkers). But her work on Pirates, The Rink (except for the shitty Act 1 Chita gang rape), Edwin Drood, Once on This Island and Ragtime had quirky and idiosyncratic ideas and the knowledge of how to build an exciting number that would delight an audience.
She got royally screwed when James Lapine prevented her Hartford Stage Falsettos from coming in. Her production was the first to pair March of the Falsettos/Falsettoland into one evening, to incorporate "I'm Breaking Down," and to add a true coup de théâtre at the end that is still talked about after 30 years. Needless to say, it was a thousand times better than the Lapine version that came to Broadway. She might have had better luck if that hadn't happened to her.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||Last Friday at 5:11 AM|
[quote] a true coup de théâtre at the end
What was it?!!?
|by Anonymous||reply 178||Last Friday at 5:25 AM|
Hartford Stage is a thrust theatre with an enormous upstage wall. The two acts had these different curtains masking the wall. For Falsettoland, it was a sort of crudely drawn American flag. After Whizzer dies, you at first saw his name flicker through the curtain. Then, the whole American Flag curtain disappeared, and you saw that where your eye was trained to look was just one of many squares of the AIDS quilt, stretching up into the flies and filling the entire wall. This was 1991, and the moment was incredibly powerful. I hope I did it justice, as it still moved me as I wrote these words trying to describe it. (MARY! I know).
|by Anonymous||reply 179||Last Friday at 5:45 AM|
It was mentioned by the Boyculture blog, which is run by a novelist who also wrote for teen mags.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||Last Friday at 5:45 AM|
Simmer down R176. What R159 probably meant to write was that Hart famously spoon-fed the lines to Andrews.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||Last Friday at 5:56 AM|
Agree R179. That was an incredibly powerful moment. Many in the audience were sobbing when the show ended.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||Last Friday at 5:57 AM|
Am I crazy or are those two Penzance performances on YouTube that were just posted exactly the same?
|by Anonymous||reply 183||Last Friday at 6:02 AM|
R173, Matthew Morrison did have some brief experience in a boy band that went nowhere, which I assume is why that's not in his bio. I would say his rendition of "Younger Than Springtime" is fine overall EXCEPT for the high notes, which do sound way too "pop" for the style of the song (and the era of the action). From WIkipedia, re MM's boy band history:
[quote]In 1999, while still at NYU, Morrison appeared on Late Show with David Letterman and Total Request Live as one of five members of the fictional parody boy band "Fresh Step", an act that was conceived by several Late Show writers. The choreographer hired for "Fresh Step" was also the choreographer for the Broadway musical Footloose, and helped Morrison to get cast in Footloose later that year. Morrison dropped out of NYU to begin appearing in the show.
[quote] In 2001, Morrison was recruited to complete the quartet for the band LMNT. Morrison was replaced instead by Jonas Persch by the time its first album was released. Morrison commented in an interview about his experience in the boy band by remarking, "It was the worst year of my life. You know when you're a performer and you're out there on stage and you're embarrassed that you're doing something wrong. It was pretty bad."
On another note, are we sure there are two versions of the Delacorte PIRATES video, and that one is better than the other? I saw a clip or two from the version that's supposedly better, posted on DL, but it wasn't noticeable to me. I think the truth is that there's one existing video, and it looks a lot better in some scenes than others. For some reason, the color in some of the shots is so faded that it almost looks like a black and white videotape, whereas in other scenes the color is fine. I'm sure this could be fixed if someone put enough money into it, but that's unlikely given the potential market for something like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||Last Friday at 6:09 AM|
There is a streaming version of the Delacorte Pirates on BroadwayHD and that is also the same as what was commercially released on DVD. And it looks much worse than either of those YouTube links. It has almost no color at all, and the warping at the end is noticeably worse, as if it was from a third generation master of the same video.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||Last Friday at 6:26 AM|
oh, i see. thanks for clarifying. i thought they were saying that the two youtube links were somehow different.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||Last Friday at 6:27 AM|
I think I was confused because a poster here made me think there was a THIRD video.
There was a commercially released video that was terrible. Then about 10 years ago, this other one showed up with better camera work and color. This other video got posted all over.
When someone here said a "new" video better than the one that made the rounds, I thought he meant newer than the one seen about 10 years ago and ever since.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||Last Friday at 6:30 AM|
r179 that's cooler than anything Lapine did in his combo production--without taking anything away from what Lapine did with the originals.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||Last Friday at 6:37 AM|
[quote]There is a streaming version of the Delacorte Pirates on BroadwayHD and that is also the same as what was commercially released on DVD. And it looks much worse than either of those YouTube links. It has almost no color at all, and the warping at the end is noticeably worse, as if it was from a third generation master of the same video.
I have the DVD, which I purchased years ago. I just took it out, skipped around and reviewed the final few scenes. I see no "warping" at all, but as I said, the color saturation varies greatly from one shot to another, for some reason. You can see this happening very noticeably in "With cat-like tread...." If you're referring to the YouTube links that are posted in this thread, I think they're from the same source as the DVD -- probably FROM the DVD.
Can you please identify where you see "warping" in the DVD video that has also been broadcast on Broadway HD?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||Last Friday at 6:44 AM|
Listen to the audio in the finale when they are in the "Poor Wandering One" reprise. It's sounds like you are listening to a partially melted LP.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||Last Friday at 7:02 AM|
Kevin Kline was perfect in "Pirates"...
|by Anonymous||reply 191||Last Friday at 7:07 AM|
And in Phoebe Cates.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||Last Friday at 8:00 AM|
Nice hair, Matt...
|by Anonymous||reply 193||Last Friday at 8:19 AM|
The girl playing Annie in R170 looks more like Pete from [italic]Pete's Dragon[/italic]. It's just as well since Jo Anne Worley was playing one of [italic]The Wuzzles[/italic] at Disney around the same time.
I actually met Roger Perry before he died. Class act all the way.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||Last Friday at 8:33 AM|
Here's some news from this century...
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Last Friday at 8:47 AM|
[quote]Here's some news from this century...
About a show from the last century.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Last Friday at 8:49 AM|
That shows just how much the quality of Broadway shows have degenerated. The budgets have gotten bigger but the music and lyrics have gotten dumbed down along with the rest of popular music.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Friday at 8:50 AM|
Music Man without Jackman? Bring back Dick Van Dyke!
|by Anonymous||reply 198||Last Friday at 9:00 AM|
Bring back Daniel Radcliffe and make him huff and puff his way through dance heavy routines just like in "How to Succeed"!
|by Anonymous||reply 199||Last Friday at 9:01 AM|
I think in the new WOKE Broadway, it will be Lea Delaria.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||Last Friday at 9:03 AM|
Hugh Jackman invited Ivanka and Jared to his birthday???? What a fucking asshole. Damn, I loved him.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||Last Friday at 9:16 AM|
[quote] That was an incredibly powerful moment. Many in the audience were sobbing when the show ended.
Howard Sherman, who was Hartford Stage's PR director at the time, writes a little more about the Graciela Danielle production of Falsettos here, particularly the ending. Quoting the following paragraph:
"While the quilt at Hartford Stage was not part of the real quilt, it replicated panels from that extraordinary expression of loss that once covered the National Mall in Washington. Because members of the company had been asked if they had family and friends who they had lost and wished to see included, audience members who worked in theatre quickly discovered they knew people on the Hartford quilt facsimile. While much of the audience was in tears, those who saw the names of those they loved and lost were often overcome."
|by Anonymous||reply 202||Last Friday at 9:16 AM|
I'd go see a Lea Delaria Music Man.
This does bring up an interesting issue - what's going to happen to The Music Man? This was going to be the next big Broadway hit to bring in the tourists and god knows Broadway needs one after this last year of being shut down. Can they replace Rudin as a producer and keep the rest of the creative team or will they have to cancel it and start from scratch?
|by Anonymous||reply 203||Last Friday at 9:17 AM|
Someone said the Rudin article wasn't gaining traction. Has there been a turnaround?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||Last Friday at 9:22 AM|
"A turnaround"? WTF does that mean. Twitter and Instagram is going crazy over this.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||Last Friday at 9:43 AM|
Not everyone uses Twitter and Instagram. Thank you for the information but you may drop the attitude.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Last Friday at 9:45 AM|
[quote]Someone said the Rudin article wasn't gaining traction.
That person is delusional, or maybe has an agenda.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||Last Friday at 9:51 AM|
R201 He even defended his friendship with them saying he values loyalty over politics. Yeah.
R203 Barry Diller and David Geffen are also producing TMM, so I'd say there's a good chance they force him out if it gets to that.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||Last Friday at 10:12 AM|
Howard Sherman is great when writing about his own personal experience.
But when reporting on other stuff, you have to be cautious in reading him. He does not correct factual errors he makes the way a journalist would. But so many read him as if he was a journalist since newspapers and periodicals have disappeared.
So now we have online writers who are not journalists in practice or ethics, but get treated as if they were.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||Last Friday at 10:13 AM|
I would assume if Hugh leaves Music Man that will kill the project. Although maybe Sutton could play Harold Hill since she doesn’t have the voice for Marian.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||Last Friday at 10:13 AM|
Hugh will not leave Music Man. He won't be responsible for putting so many out of work.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||Last Friday at 10:24 AM|
I'm shocked PLAYBILL would have the guts to do this article. All their content is basically dictated by press agents.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||Last Friday at 10:27 AM|
Rudin is having the author of the article KILLED.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||Last Friday at 10:49 AM|
That makes sense, r211. I wonder if he might try to talk Rudin into dropping out?
|by Anonymous||reply 214||Last Friday at 11:33 AM|
'That's hardly what Moss Hart is famous for, [R159]. What a silly thing to say about a man with Hart's rich and accomplished career.'
No that's the only thing he is famous for. Directing Andrews in MFL. Nothing else.
And you must be famous for being a silly dimwit.
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|by Anonymous||reply 216||Last Friday at 12:35 PM|
Joanne Worley in Pirates of Penzance on Merv Griffin. Andy Gibb starred in the touring company with Pam Dawber who had left when this was taped. Barry Bostwick was the Pirate King and Gibb looks like a wimp next to him. Poor Joanne seems like Jean Stapleton in the she became famous for a certain personality and then played it in everything she did because it was all she could do.
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|by Anonymous||reply 219||Last Friday at 1:25 PM|
Colette might have sucked, but the artwork was fantastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||Last Friday at 1:32 PM|
You could always count on Hilary Knight, r220. HIs poster for the megaflop DR. JAZZ is the most beautiful Broadway poster ever designed.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||Last Friday at 1:37 PM|
THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: In 1972, "Sugar" opened at the Majestic Theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||Last Friday at 1:47 PM|
Please report any attacks of flying baked potatoes in the work place here in this safe space.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||Last Friday at 1:49 PM|
You might have mixed up your Cyma Rubin musicals, R221. Raoul Pene du Bois did the art for Doctor Jazz. Knight did the (fantastic) art for Rubin's No No Nanette.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||Last Friday at 1:50 PM|
So all of you here who've been vaccinated -- and with some theaters now reopening -- are you comfortable with the idea of going to sit in a theater again? Or do you still want more time?
|by Anonymous||reply 225||Last Friday at 1:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 226||Last Friday at 1:52 PM|
Here she is boys...
|by Anonymous||reply 227||Last Friday at 1:53 PM|
OMG, I'm so embarrassed, r224, you are absolutely right (and you even kindly posted a link). If I'd looked at that poster myself before posting I'd have remembered that it was Raoul. I stand humbly corrected.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||Last Friday at 1:57 PM|
So this thing with Rudin is complicated because he is entwined with other powerful people in the Broadway community and the eventual question will "why didn't anyone do anything sooner" I would look for him to be quietly pushed out of any visible role in upcoming projects, but I don't see him disappearing completely unless his name on production affects ticket sales. That is not out of the realm of possibility. Rudin's problem is he has literally no defense and nobody believes he is anything short of a monster. Jackman isn't pulling out of The Music Man, he is signaling to the productions other producers that he doesn't want to be sandbagged by this press around Rudins behavior.
Rudin has been behaving this way for decades and everyone knows it. The people who enabled him are afraid not just of him, but of their past associations with him when it was common knowledge Rudin was a class A abuser.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||Last Friday at 1:58 PM|
Sunset Boulevard with Patricia.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||Last Friday at 2:00 PM|
Patricia Routledge? Morison?
|by Anonymous||reply 231||Last Friday at 2:01 PM|
Waiting for the Divine Miss M (and former Dolly Levi)to comment on bullying.......
|by Anonymous||reply 232||Last Friday at 2:02 PM|
This is in the Rudin thread:
"Barry Diller, David Geffen and several others are already involved as co-producers. The worst that will happen is that Rudin steps back from any public participation or public credit but retains his financial interest. But I doubt even that will happen
Hugh Jackman in The Music Man? The show must go on!"
|by Anonymous||reply 233||Last Friday at 2:04 PM|
For some reason though I might have missed it nobody mentioned that Easter this year was on the exact same day in 1971 exactly 50 years ago.
April 4 1971 was Easter Sunday and I remember switching back and forth between the news channels for their reviews on Follies(mixed) which opened that night.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||Last Friday at 2:45 PM|
R230 Patricia who? I’ve watched it before and it’s Patti as Norma.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||Last Friday at 2:48 PM|
Jesus, some of you really need blowjobs.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||Last Friday at 2:52 PM|
R230, her name is not Patricia. It actually is Patti. She is related to the 19th century diva, Adelina Patti< (who is mentioned in Dorian Gray), and named after her.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||Last Friday at 3:59 PM|
Patricia Routledge married Matthew Morrison and then starred in Kiss Me, Kate.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||Last Friday at 4:05 PM|
Was that before or after Dressed to Kill, r238?
|by Anonymous||reply 239||Last Friday at 4:08 PM|
Patricia Morison was lesbian, yes?
|by Anonymous||reply 240||Last Friday at 4:14 PM|
If you made it to 236 you clearly need one as well.
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|by Anonymous||reply 242||Last Friday at 4:36 PM|
R201 Inviting Ivanka and Jared Jackman's birthday is almost akin to Mel Gibson's sins in this woke atmosphere also with regard to honoring a contract with the latest Hollywood scoundrel, Scott Rudin. They'll flip over at ATC over this! Dramedy better have his dropsy cure at the ready.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||Last Friday at 4:53 PM|
Yes, both Patricia Routledge and Morison are family. Though confirmation of the latter only seemed to emerge after her passing.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||Last Friday at 11:05 PM|
All the many Hyacinth lovers would be dismayed. Well the straight ones.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||Last Saturday at 3:16 AM|
R215 I am full vaccinated and I am 100% fine with the idea of sitting in a theater.
I am not fine with sitting in a theater in a mask for two and half hours. I get masks, I get why they're important, and understand science. I am just saying for me - I would be completely uncomfortable and all I would not enjoy the experience.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||Last Saturday at 4:01 AM|
Frankly, sitting in a theatre is not comfortable, period. I feel claustrophobic in those seats, unless I'm on an aisle, so if I had to choose between wearing a mask while sitting in a seat with noone on either side, or packed in as I would be normally, I'll take the mask.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||Last Saturday at 4:08 AM|
For the past 30 years, or so, every time a Broadway theater has been renovated, the seats grew more narrow, as did the leg room, and an additional row or two of seats were installed. The theater owners went to great trouble to make their theaters LESS comfortable, but more profitable for them.
Well, profitable for them until Covid came along. The theaters are more crowded and less comfortable because of the theater owners' greed. And now, they are less safe, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||Last Saturday at 4:17 AM|
I’m seeing Absinthe in Las Vegas next month; socially distanced seating and masks required. It’ll be about a month after my second shot and I’m feeling okay about it. Mind you, I wish my first show back was something a bit meatier (where’s a revival of Follies when you really need one?), but I’m excited to be sitting in an audience again.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||Last Saturday at 5:05 AM|
R248 I don't have much positive to say about ALW or Mackintosh, but at least when they refurb their theatres they actually remove seats to (somewhat) improve the seating. If only they were able to make some kind of hostile takeover of Shubert or Nederlander.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||Last Saturday at 5:49 AM|
r248 and didn't they extend the orchestra seating and thus reduce the space in the bar area-creating that insanely airport-like logjam in the back of every auditorium? I never can believe that people who paid that much for their experience are then crushed in a Walmart-on-Black-Friday situation when they enter, during intermission, and when they leave. Broadway treats its patrons like shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||Last Saturday at 5:54 AM|
[quote]The theater owners went to great trouble to make their theaters LESS comfortable, but more profitable for them. Well, profitable for them until Covid came along. The theaters are more crowded and less comfortable because of the theater owners' greed. And now, they are less safe, too.
And I guess now we'll have to fear, if they remove seats to make theaters safer due to COVID, that they'll jack up the ticket prices to cover lost revenue from those missing seats.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||Last Saturday at 7:06 AM|
Dick van Dyke is too old to still be Harold Hill even if he's managed to sober up since then.
He can still play Mayor Shinn.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||Last Saturday at 7:36 AM|
Does anyone know what happened with the WSYWA group? They posted a big "mea culpa" on their instragram, and there's all sorts of controversy, but I can't tell what its about. Anyone know?
|by Anonymous||reply 254||Last Saturday at 7:43 AM|
Dick Van Dyke was terrible as Harold Hill the first time around. Really not good.
He was better than Tony Randall who I saw do it in stock. That was just bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||Last Saturday at 7:44 AM|
Dick Van Dyke should have been really good as Harold Hill, but his energy was low and something was off. I don't know if it had to do with alcoholism or other personal problems at the time, but it was a huge disappointment. Fortunately, he's still with us and must be about 95 now. Forrest Tucker was supposed to have been very good as Harold Hill.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||Last Saturday at 7:47 AM|
Okay, so now we're talking about Forrest Tucker? In what universe is this "Theatre Gossip"?
|by Anonymous||reply 257||Last Saturday at 7:50 AM|
He had a big dick. Plus he did theater = Theatre Gossip.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||Last Saturday at 7:52 AM|
Dick Van Dyke's persona seems too nice to be Harold Hill. It's why Broderick was so wrong on that crap TV version, too. Hill is a con man and a rake and a scoundrel whom Marian and the kid tame and should have some edge or danger. I'm not sure if Jackman can do it either. He's got the requisite BDE but not sure about the edge.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||Last Saturday at 8:07 AM|
The Music Man is cornball crap imagining an America that never was. Could not sit through it, even with Jackman.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||Last Saturday at 8:32 AM|
[quote]Dick van Dyke is too old to still be Harold Hill even if he's managed to sober up since then.
Dick Van Dyke is 95 years old. Can't put anything over on R253!
|by Anonymous||reply 261||Last Saturday at 8:37 AM|
Could Marilyn Maye sing Marian?
|by Anonymous||reply 262||Last Saturday at 8:38 AM|
Marilyn Maye can sing the phone book.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||Last Saturday at 8:43 AM|
Went to see The Music Man twice at the Walter Reade in Lincoln Center. The print was gorgeous and was in stereo. How did Preston not win an Oscar? Don't need to see it on stage again. Saw some of the Broderick on TV. Lousy community theater. Why do people even try?
|by Anonymous||reply 264||Last Saturday at 8:47 AM|
Because Mr. Peck did, r264.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||Last Saturday at 8:56 AM|
Today on Saturday morning cartoons...
|by Anonymous||reply 266||Last Saturday at 9:00 AM|
Our man, Van Johnson played Harold Hill in London. It's hard to tell how effective he is from the OLCR, but I imagine if Forrest "I'll take just enough out to win" Tucker made it work on the road, Van would have been a solid MGM style Hill.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||Last Saturday at 9:11 AM|
Did Alfred Drake ever play it?
|by Anonymous||reply 268||Last Saturday at 9:37 AM|
I was a teen when I saw Tucker. Thought he was wonderful.
Harold Hill should be sexy. DVD is not.
I believe the quote above about "just take out enough" was said about Milton Berle. But maybe it's always been apocryphal.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||Last Saturday at 9:39 AM|
I do believe The Music Man was right in the midst of Van Dyke's alcoholism. He's mentioned it before. That'd probably account for his low energy. He does still seem a bit too nice for the role.
I always thought Seth McFarlane would be a great Harold Hill. Has the voice for it and just enough smarmy to pull it off.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||Last Saturday at 9:50 AM|
Some people just own roles.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||Last Saturday at 9:54 AM|
[quote]Does anyone know what happened with the WSYWA group?
How annoying of you to ask a question like that using an acronym, you lazy lout. I'm not even going bother to ask what WYSYWA is, so please don't bother to tell us.
[quote]The Music Man is cornball crap imagining an America that never was. Could not sit through it, even with Jackman.
This statement indicates that one of two things must be true: (1) You never actually saw THE MUSIC MAN on stage or film; or (2) you are so incredibly stupid that you somehow missed the entire point of the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||Last Saturday at 12:00 PM|
I'd rather see a younger and sexier Harold Hill like Stephen Pasquale or Andy Karl or that Kazee guy from Once (WEHT?) than Preston (who was probably younger than all of them when he created the role).
|by Anonymous||reply 273||Last Saturday at 12:04 PM|
I'd like to see Steven Pasquale or Andy Karl take out just enough to win.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||Last Saturday at 12:25 PM|
How out of it are you, r 272. WSYWAT = We See You What American Theatre. If you don't know what that is, go back to your bootlegs of The Grass Harp and leave us all alone.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||Last Saturday at 12:27 PM|
You couldn't even get it right, r275.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||Last Saturday at 12:28 PM|
Ladies, stop fighting over typos. To the question: Does anyone know what happened?
|by Anonymous||reply 277||Last Saturday at 12:30 PM|
They held a town hall lately around the attacks on the AAPI community, and it basically devolved into division between black attendees and AAPI attendees, the former demanding that "anti-blackness" in the AAPI community be addressed, the latter asking where the black community was when it came to standing up for AAPI people. Also a lot of anger that there was a specific AAPI town hall, but not a specific black town hall, Hispanic town hall, etc.
There's now a sort of conspiracy theory going around that WSYWAT is actually headed up by white people trying to create division between minority groups (though the evidence seems to suggest white people are hardly needed to achieve that). This is aided by the fact that no-one knows who's behind WSYWAT. A couple of the people who co-signed that original We See You post are pissed because people think they're associated with it - when in reality they were just idiots who signed something without knowing who was organising it.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||Last Saturday at 1:02 PM|
[quote]There's now a sort of conspiracy theory going around that WSYWAT is actually headed up by white people trying to create division between minority groups
Just like Antifa stormed the Capitol Building carrying Trump flags.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||Last Saturday at 1:16 PM|
What, American Theatre...indeed.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||Last Saturday at 1:20 PM|
[quote]I'd rather see a younger and sexier Harold Hill like Stephen Pasquale or Andy Karl or that Kazee guy from Once (WEHT?)
Sadly, it appears "that Kazee guy from Once" is not quite right in the head. Which I guess answers your WEHT question.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||Last Saturday at 1:26 PM|
I wonder how Barry Bostwick would have done as Harold Hill BITD.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||Last Saturday at 1:33 PM|
Preston was 39 when MM opened. Pasquale and Karl are in their mid-40s, so they could work.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||Last Saturday at 1:35 PM|
Asian American Private Investigator community?
|by Anonymous||reply 284||Last Saturday at 2:07 PM|
The list of demands in that WSYWAT manifesto were insane. Almost as ridiculous as those woke RADA students attempting to restructure their classical theatre curriculum (ie. removing Shaw's name from the theatre, banning playwrights, getting rid of traditional voice-and-speech and Received Pronunciation because their everyday voices 'were enough'). It was basically these students throwing away any notion of what it means to be trained actors... ie. playing people OTHER than themselves! Completely moronic. The worst bit is that RADA actually caved to the pressure of these ignorant, bratty 20 somethings.
This radical authoritarian approach is NOT the way to rectify these perceived inequities. Its inherent antagonism (and arrogance) turns off even its likeliest supporters from having any rational, productive discussion. But then you quickly realize that these anonymous groups don't actually want any unifying, healing discussion! Creating and maintaining this greater division is too profitable for all involved. I've always been a super progressive liberal, but this woke shit is toxic. And decidedly illiberal.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||Last Saturday at 2:07 PM|
James Corden as Harold Hill? Or Tevye?
|by Anonymous||reply 286||Last Saturday at 2:07 PM|
Phil Hartman would've made an interesting Harold Hill. Definitely could've handled the slick/sexy/sincere demands of it. Probably would've evoked a lot of Preston actually.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||Last Saturday at 2:15 PM|
George Clooney can't sing, can he?
|by Anonymous||reply 288||Last Saturday at 2:25 PM|
I assume he can do a passable Botch-A-Me, r288.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||Last Saturday at 2:29 PM|
Richard Gere after Pretty Woman, anyone?
|by Anonymous||reply 290||Last Saturday at 2:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 291||Last Saturday at 2:42 PM|
r291 doesn't have a clue how to solve the swingin' Riddle.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||Last Saturday at 2:46 PM|
It'll never happen since he's canceled or whatever, but Kevin Spacey would have been a great Harold Hill.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||Last Saturday at 2:52 PM|
A Kevin Spacey-led Music Man would have led to the first time anyone fearing for the safety of Tommy Djilas.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||Last Saturday at 3:07 PM|
We See You WAT lost me when they asserted that being on time and tech rehearsals and 6 day work weeks were white supremacist constructs.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||Last Saturday at 3:07 PM|
[quote] Phil Hartman would've made an interesting Harold Hill.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||Last Saturday at 3:10 PM|
R294, it's just the shot of electricity this old war horse of a show needs.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||Last Saturday at 3:12 PM|
I just watched a movie with Rupert Graves. Wasn't he one of the objects of Spacey's unwanted affection?
|by Anonymous||reply 298||Last Saturday at 3:35 PM|
Debbie Reynolds as Bobbi Adler as Professor Carol Hill.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||Last Saturday at 3:43 PM|
I love Botch-A-Me!
|by Anonymous||reply 300||Last Saturday at 4:00 PM|
Mitch Miller gave Rosie Clooney all these Italian novelty numbers to sing as part of her contract. She sold 'em well, though I think she didn't really like doing them. But they are lots of fun. I wonder how George would sound doing them?
|by Anonymous||reply 301||Last Saturday at 4:04 PM|
I prefer her duets mit Marlene...
|by Anonymous||reply 302||Last Saturday at 4:12 PM|
Nelson Riddle did some new arrangements of her hits for her TV show. There was a CD of them several years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||Last Saturday at 4:13 PM|
Ooooh....a Gretchen Wyler/Barbara Sharma Dames at Sea...
|by Anonymous||reply 304||Last Saturday at 7:08 PM|
A lady never starts fights. But she can end them.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||Last Saturday at 7:41 PM|
Yes, R298. They were in The Iceman Cometh in London and Spacey stalked him, followed him to his house and would sit in his car for hours. When the production got a NY transfer Graves declined because of Spacey’s unwanted attention. The role was played by Robert Sean Leonard.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||Last Saturday at 8:02 PM|
Botch-A-Me is worse than AIDS...
|by Anonymous||reply 307||Last Saturday at 9:12 PM|
Nothing was worse than AIDS. You are trying to make a joke about something that killed almost all of my friends and my partner who died in my arms. The years go by, the pain doesn't go away.
You must be very young.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||Last Saturday at 9:37 PM|
Moose Murders killed all of my friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||Last Saturday at 9:43 PM|
Stomp stomped on all my hopes and dreams.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||Last Saturday at 9:48 PM|
I've been through Brenda Frazier before the lyric change and I'm here!
|by Anonymous||reply 311||Last Saturday at 11:16 PM|
The Producers pulverized my mussy, but I’m here!
|by Anonymous||reply 312||Yesterday at 12:41 AM|
Cats clawed out my eyes and ears!
|by Anonymous||reply 313||a day ago|
We need a palate cleanser...
|by Anonymous||reply 314||a day ago|
Has Michael Hayden been in a musical since? How disappointed I was after having grown up listening to John Raitt's performance on the OCR and Gordon MacRae in the move.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||a day ago|
Wasn't that one of the first revival-revisal-whatever-the-fuck-they-call-them to hire someone who couldn't sing the damn thing in the name of "authenticity"?
|by Anonymous||reply 316||a day ago|
Why doesn't Davis Gaines work more?
|by Anonymous||reply 317||a day ago|
Bob Mitchum should have done a calypso musical!
|by Anonymous||reply 318||a day ago|
[quote]Has Michael Hayden been in a musical since?
I saw Hayden play Franklin Shepard in the Kennedy Center's 2002 production of "Merrily We Roll Along," produced as part of its Sondheim Celebration. He was okay, but overshadowed by Raul Esparza, who was terrific as Charley.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||a day ago|
I thought Hayden's casting made sense in one respect; he brought sex to the table. Every production I'd seen before then (all regional) had some fat, old baritone hitting all the notes but making Julie's desire for him laughable.
Just a pity he couldn’t really nail his big notes.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||a day ago|
Michael Hayden was also one of the Cliffs in the Roundabout "Cabaret," when the other leads were Susan Egan and Michael C. Hall. Of course in that version Cliff has almost nothing to sing.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||21 hours ago|
R317, Gaines comes from an extremely wealthy family (the Gaines Food Company the created the dog food Gaines-Burgers) fand doesn't need to work. Also, the ridiculous vibratto and hammy acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||21 hours ago|
Davis Gaines also has some of the worst plastic surgery of all time (which is saying something). It’s extreme and extremely unsettling.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||21 hours ago|
The wife confirms.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||20 hours ago|
Forrest Tucker was married to Andrew Lloyd Webber?
|by Anonymous||reply 325||20 hours ago|
Forrest Tucker was married to John Kenley?
|by Anonymous||reply 326||20 hours ago|
John Kenley fervently wished that he was married to Forrest Tucker.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||20 hours ago|
Forrest Tucker was married to Geraldine Fitzgerald?
|by Anonymous||reply 328||20 hours ago|
That reporter at r324 seems like a real asshole
|by Anonymous||reply 329||18 hours ago|
R322 - thanks for the insight. I recently heard him on Alec Baldwin's podcast. It was a good interview though it got a bit sad when Gaines admitted he'd love to do more film/tv/stage but didn't have any management. You can tell Baldwin was a bit taken aback by the admission.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||17 hours ago|
[Quote] Gaines admitted he'd love to do more film/tv/stage but didn't have any management.
Is there a story behind this?
|by Anonymous||reply 331||17 hours ago|
And Orfeh as Widder Paroo!
|by Anonymous||reply 332||17 hours ago|
Davis Gaines fucked himself out of a career with that awful plastic surgery. No one wants to look at an elderly burn victim.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||16 hours ago|
I don't think face work affects stage employment.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||16 hours ago|
[quote]Michael Hayden was also one of the Cliffs in the Roundabout "Cabaret," when the other leads were Susan Egan and Michael C. Hall. Of course in that version Cliff has almost nothing to sing.
And therein hangs a tale. Apparently, the took that job -- as a replacement in a long-running musical, in a relatively thankless role, knowing that he would almost certainly get no reviews or publicity for his performance -- and in so doing, he turned his back on a major regional classical theater that had been planning to build an entire season around him. So I guess, aside from not being able to sing very well, he's not that smart when it comes to career choices.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||16 hours ago|
[quote]I don't think face work affects stage employment.
It can when it's THAT bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||16 hours ago|
He doesn't stand out here.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||16 hours ago|
Bad face work can look worse on stage since you are seen at close range by a number of audience members and you do not have the make-up and angles that can fix things on camera.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||16 hours ago|
He was a great Phantom, once upon a time. But, yeah, that plastic surgery is tragic.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||16 hours ago|
Nowadays, he could almost play the phantom without makeup
|by Anonymous||reply 340||16 hours ago|
If Hugh pulls out...
|by Anonymous||reply 341||16 hours ago|
But by taking the CABARET gig Hayden was paid 3 times as much as the regional job and was able to remain home with his wife and daughter. As well as make to auditions in NY for other work.
|by Anonymous||reply 342||16 hours ago|
The face worked just fine for Davis's Nostradamus.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||16 hours ago|
[quote]But by taking the CABARET gig Hayden was paid 3 times as much as the regional job and was able to remain home with his wife and daughter. As well as make to auditions in NY for other work.
Someone who I suspect knew more about the situation than you did had a very different interpretation of it. I was told that the wife and the daughter would have been well accommodated in D.C. Also, news flash, working in D.C. does not preclude auditioning in NYC. And not only did taking the replacement job in CABARET do absolutely nothing for Hayden's career, it may even have damaged it, as in: "Oh, so the guy who got all that publicity for originating the male leading role in that hit revival of CAROUSEL is now replacing people in other shows, but at least in this part he only has to sing a few lines."
|by Anonymous||reply 344||16 hours ago|
Michael Hayden was excellent in Edward Albee's The Lady from Dubuque at Signature about 9 or 10 years ago. It's the last major production I saw him in. (I didn't see the recent All My Sons revival - just have seen that play so many times already). Lady from Dubuque is about many aspects of death and dying, but I remember his performance really vividly, especially how Brantley describes it here toward the end of his review. Carousel was too big a sing for him, and I do wonder if it adversely affected his career, but he is a really strong dramatic actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||15 hours ago|
Davis Gaines and Joanna Gleason in Mummenschanz!
|by Anonymous||reply 346||15 hours ago|
Hayden was also in "Enchanted April" on Broadway, but with Elizabeth Ashley and Molly Ringwald in the cast and Michael Cumpsty baring his butt, not too many people noticed Hayden.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||15 hours ago|
Password Plus just began. Miss Joyce Bulifant and Dick Gautier.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||15 hours ago|
Hayden was so handsome in ENCHANTED APRIL and also very sexy in the AR Gurney play FAR EAST (one of Gurney's best plays IMHO) at LCT's Mitzi Newhouse theatre. And come to think of it, he was really hot as Prince Hal in LCT's HENRY IV opposite Kevin Kline's Falstaff - that was a gorgeous production.
I can't really blame him for wanting to act in NY instead of DC. More of a mystery to me, with his looks, that he hasn't done more film and TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||14 hours ago|
With Broadway Theaters Still Dark, Some Performers Turn To Singing Telegrams:
|by Anonymous||reply 350||14 hours ago|
If it was good enough for C.C. Bloom ...
|by Anonymous||reply 351||13 hours ago|
Who the fuck wants some germ-spreading chorusbottom showing up at your door, spraying Covid in your face?
|by Anonymous||reply 352||13 hours ago|
Read the article -- it's telegrams over the phone.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||13 hours ago|
[quote]and in so doing, he turned his back on a major regional classical theater that had been planning to build an entire season around him
Are you referring to the Shakespeare Theater of DC? Speaking strictly from a career perspective, it could be great for the art, but that won't advance your career in NYC much and shlepping from DC to NY for tv auditions would be drag.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||13 hours ago|
I was actually involved in that production of Coriolanus in DC that Hayden dropped out of and, believe me, he made the right decision. Or, let's just say, he didn't miss anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||13 hours ago|
I saw Tony winner Boyd Gaines as Cliff in Cabaret. At the time I assumed he needed the paycheck. His co star in She Loves Me (Diane Sutherland) was Teri Hatcher’s standby in the road company.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||12 hours ago|
Whatever happened to Willy Falk? And why did he call himself Willy?
|by Anonymous||reply 357||12 hours ago|
Ooooo, I made a lot of money back in the 70s doing singing telegrams.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||12 hours ago|
Wait I thought we were talking about DAVIS Gaines? Not Boyd.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||12 hours ago|
Why not both?
|by Anonymous||reply 360||12 hours ago|
How is Boyd nowadays, anyway? I vaguely remember conflicting reports that his health's awful.
|by Anonymous||reply 361||11 hours ago|
Ditto M. Getz.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||11 hours ago|
The Boyd Gaines is ill troll seemingly died.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||11 hours ago|
[quote]Carousel was too big a sing for him, and I do wonder if it adversely affected his career.
I would say it did. Just look at his Broadway credits post-CAROUSEL., nothing but flops and limited runs. And his last Broadway role was Jim Bayliss in ALL MY SONS, for pity's sake. (I'll save you the trouble of looking it up, that's a minor role. And that show was also a limited run of a Roundabout production.)
[quote]Are you referring to the Shakespeare Theater of DC? Speaking strictly from a career perspective, it could be great for the art, but that won't advance your career in NYC much and shlepping from DC to NY for tv auditions would be drag.
Playing a lead in a solid production at a major regional theater, and hopefully being well reviewed for it, would probably have advanced his career in general at least as much as replacing in a relatively thankless role in a Broadway musical, and not being reviewed for it. As for "shlepping" from DC to NY for auditions, it's really not that much of a shlep, and anyway, how many auditions do you think would have come along for him during that period?
|by Anonymous||reply 364||11 hours ago|
If he coulda been, he woulda been.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||11 hours ago|
Hayden was plucked right from Carousel into a lead role on a network series for two seasons. He's moved from NY theater to television, back to NY theater (with a Tony nomination), regional and abroad, and back to television for a 25+ year career. He's a working actor and has nothing to apologize for.
|by Anonymous||reply 366||10 hours ago|