The Diana Scream: The Whole Story

This thread has been done several times, doll.

This is the extended version, R1.

LMAO

Has anyone heard that Diana called her step-mother "Acid Raine"?

and last but not least, my favorite version

What card game were they playing?

[quote] So ... I just learned that this video that I shot in 1997 has become a topic of conversation on some discussion boards. To answer some questions that have popped up there - Yes, this video is real, not faked later to a videotape. You think we're that good of actors? Some people call this video the first of what are now called "reaction" videos, a term didn't exist in 1997 (and neither did YouTube). Why was I recording? I was trying out a new camcorder recording friends playing the card game UNO. Then my mom called me to say that Diana was in a car crash and to turn on the TV so I kept recording my friend's reactions. It was recorded in Iowa City, Iowa. All of the guys in the video are still alive today (as of today, March 12, 2021). Yes, we are all gay, so what. The guy who screams when he learns Diana has died is my friend Ken who lives in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. It is his genuine reaction to the news of Diana's death. Some people call it a "Wilhelm scream." (Apparently that's a movie term). The guy who stifles a smile after the scream is Scott. (He smiled because of Ken's Wilhelm scream reaction) When CNN announced that Diana had died I didn't turn the camera back to the TV because I thought it was more interesting to capture my friends' reactions.

Scott is my fave.

When did we get the Zoom reunion of all the queens together!

It's the scream that never ends!

Ha! The tape at R11 is followed by . . .Oprah Winfrey!

I wonder how DLers would be a Ken and how many would be a Scott? Without a doubt I would not be a Ken. would almost definitely be a Scott.

OMG, we need them to do a Zoom reunion, R14! Great idea.

The person who recorded and posted the video to YouTube, obviously knows about DL. Hopefully he or one of his friends is reading this!

Most DLers would say they're a Scott or a John, but they're really a Ken, R17.

Fess up DLers. How many of you are in this vid?

It is interesting listening to Ken. He has a nice radio voice.

It's cool to "hear" the backstory from the OP, and I would also be down for a Zoom reunion.

I'm a Clark

Jesus fucking Christ. Why bother with threads anymore if we have 500 for every conceivable topic?

Whenever I see a thread I don't have an interest in, instead of playing hall monitor or bitching, I just:

My ex would scream like that if he dropped something, was frightened, stubbed his toe, etc. It was totally real and totally embarrassing. And he was a big bear of a guy.

Once he was handing me the food from a drive-in window and spilt one of the drinks: "WhuhOHAAGGGHHH!!", then he grabbed at his chest like he was experiencing angina or something. The look on the fast food girl's face was priceless (surprise/disgust/bemusement).

Oh, hush, r24, just...

I let out the same scream when I saw the tragic wall-to-wall carpet in that house.

Anyone who screams like that for any reason is not okay, I bet his "friends" secretly hate him.

I’m surprised there are no drinks on the table. Maybe they were all sober?

It’s hard to convey how shocking it was when Diana died. In the mid 90s, it seemed like everything had played out. The Gingrich revolution, Diana’s death, W’s election grab, and 9/11 were jolting. Now we just accept the shittiness of the US and the world.

Thread should be titled Boring Queens React to Princesses Death

[quote]r31 It’s hard to convey how shocking it was when Diana died.

I personally didn’t find it shocking (though I’m admittedly a bit emotionally detached.) She was just a celebrity. I was kind of surprised friends and family cried. Inside I was like, “Did you KNOW her? She didn’t know YOU.”

Clearly I was in the minority, however.

That queen must be truly tedious to be around.

So Hubbard appeared on the Dutch soap but did her scenes in English?

I love her, but I'm LOL'ing at the idea of the language barriers plus Liz's known tendency to improvise. That must have been a nightmare for someone.

There's really no need for context or explanation, nothing left to expand upon, it's simoly:

"Princess Dies, Queen Screams."

whoops wrong thread! sorry!

A friend and I walked into Rome a bar in Chelsea NYC around 11pm and the bartender said with something like glee "Did you hear the devastating news?" very surprised though in no way devastated.

I remember going into a bar in PA to meet friends and everyone was so quiet - they had the TV on.

At Halloween a few months after her death, a friend came to work dressed as a "dead cheerleader". I asked if she was Princess Diana and EVERYONE went "oooohh", like it was too soon. Her death really was a real shock to everyone!

I can see a bunch of hysterical millennial queens recreating this scene over bottomless brunch if Meghan Markle died

If Diana died today, there would be 5,000,000 TikTok videos up within 20 mins ... it would trend on Twitter for five hours ... and then people would mostly lose interest between the death and the funeral.

The first video above is very touching.

Does this guy's friend have any issues with being made into a gay meme?

How old are they now?

In their 60s easily.

Charles seemed unemotional throughout. Maybe he was glad the details of his 'problems in the bedroom' died with her?

But they look early-20s r46!

Early to mid 50s I'd guess. They looked late 20s-early 30s in the video.

What about Ken, he must have been 40 at least in the video.

John is adorable

I wonder if Scott and Jeffrey are still together.

I never realized that you can see his reflection as he screams. He actually leaps up from his chair

Where are they if Scott and Jeff are visiting from Raleigh-Durham, where they just happened to have purchased a fabulous new home?

Is Clark the screamer?

Is Allen filming?

R53 Nice catch. Never noticed that before and I’ve watched this 1000 times

R54

Ken is the screamer and yes, Allen is filming.

Thanks, R53! Like, R55, I never noticed that before.

Jesus Christ ,R12, its in tne description AND the video! Who wipes your ass for you?

The queens in this thread must be racist motherf*ckers because I can't see responses 2 through 9. Will the one or two of you decent, kind-hearted anti-racists please post the podcast link again so that genteel, morally upright, God-fearing people can access it?

R2 is a jerk. Thanks OP for bringing this to our attention. It's great seeing the extended cut and reading about the identities of the boys!

Per the uploader, when asked if they're still friends:

[quote]Yes, with the exception of Jeffrey, who is seated on the far right at the table, we all keep in touch regularly. We would still play UNO games sometimes until Covid 19 came along a year ago.

Wonder what the story with Jeffrey is?

What did I do, R59? All I said is that this is the extended version.

R60, maybe Scott and Jeffrey broke up and the other guys took Scott's side or were more friends with him in the first place?

Maybe it ended in tears!

[quote]I personally didn’t find it shocking (though I’m admittedly a bit emotionally detached.) She was just a celebrity. I was kind of surprised friends and family cried.

Diana was the most famous person in the world after the Queen, and the kind of fame she had does not exist today. She had a real connection with people in a way that very, very few public figures have ever had. She was EVERYWHERE, not a week went by when you didn't hear something about Diana.

I was 20 years old at the time and I couldn't remember a time when Diana wasn't famous, she'd always been around, a constant presence. It was surreal when she died.

I think celebrities a la Diana can no longer exist in a world with social media.

I think Princess Diana's death was especially poignant for Gen Xers. We all remember where we were and what we were doing when we heard. Most of us were too young to remember the deaths of Elvis or John Lennon. The Boomers had Kennedy, while we all grew up with Lady Di.

true r65. Nobody could be that famous or have such a connection with the public today.

Definitely r66. I was born in '76 and Diana's death was the most shocking death of a public figure for our age group. We were too young to remember Elvis and Lennon, and they were also of a different generation. Diana was someone we grew up with and was part of the times we lived in. She was a very contemporary figure, not someone who peaked before we were born.

But where is Mike?

[quote] Wonder what the story with Jeffrey is?

Ask him. You know he is lurking about here somewhere.

Jeffrey isn't DL fave Jeffrey Spaide by any chance?

Ken is definitely a DLer!

So is whoever said, "in other words, her face got it," R72.

R57, lol! Touche. I've seen this video a handful of times on here and I was so focused on their faces, I never paid attention to their card game. I can't believe these queens were sitting around playing Uno!

I but they had passionate anal grief sex that night.

Has no one ever done an overlay of The Scream painting and this video?

This is like the Criterion Collection release of this seminal film!

It just needs a 4K Blu-Ray restoration, a reunion of the principals at the Paley Center and a specially branded deck of UNO cards.

I'd totally have had sex with Ken that night.

The guy on the couch caressing him had to at least have blown him in the past.

So why aren't Jeffrey and Scott together? I wonder what happened.

^^^ Only one of them got invited to the funeral.

Does anyone still live in the "fabulous" house in Raleigh-Durham (probably some tract house with ugly finishes). I remember being in Singapore airport when this was announced my reaction was a bit different---literally killed by the publicity she was always seeking. By then, Di was no longer so sympathetic---I mean dating someone from a slimey finance family. that owned touristy-trappy Harrod's. and the Brits were unhappy that he wasn't "English".

Oh I love the slo mo version. Sweet guys. My friends are like them.

It’s funny how Ken asks if what he said is on tape and follows it up with “that’s how I’ll be remembered.” Just a few seconds later he lets out that scream and we are left with his true legacy.

It's truly genius, r83

People who are saying Diana couldn't have been so famous today, nor the public so in love with her, are underestimating her I think. The only reason there's nobody with those levels of fame now is that there's nobody like her.

The proof of how glamorous and charismatic she was is that in the decades since, nobody has been able to find a movie star (aka the most glamorous people in the world) to play her who doesn't look like a photocopy after the ink has run down. Clive James said of her, "When she looked at you it was like the sun coming up - if the sun came up giggling."

IMO if she were in her prime today, social media would be smothered in images of her. She would still be on the front of every magazine every week - and magazine circulation would be a lot higher than it is. Because of her Royal duties and the particular types of philanthropy she chose she was always on the news, and still would be. She wore the best clothes, and because of her role she could get away with things no-one else could: matching hats for daywear, jewels the size of the Ritz and ballgowns studded with pearls. She had two children more gorgeous than the current Cambridges and she liked to be photographed hugging them while doing Of the People stuff like theme park rides. She was a world-class master of optics. Yet until the fateful Panorama interview she hardly ever spoke, which also made her mysterious.

She was a total narcissist and I fully understand why the BRF in general and Charles in particular couldn't stand her, but even so, as long as her public utterances were confined to pleas for her good causes and pictures of her adorable throne-bound kiddies, I can't imagine an age in which she wouldn't get away with being every girl's ideal princess, every gay man's style icon and every straight man's idea of unattainable heaven.

Ironically, in light of Meghan's obsession with Archie's nonexistent Princedom, Diana's real title was "HRH Diana, Princess of Wales", NOT "Princess Diana", which carries the connotation of being born to Royal blood. But from the day she married that was what the public insisted on calling her, and it would not be told otherwise. Honestly, it was mow-you-down levels of fame and adulation.

Scott was cute

Her commanding height had a lot to do with her charisma. It’s a small thing but I remain convinced it’s true.

Which one of them is the DLer?

Which one of them ISN'T, r88?

I wonder if they watched the events of 9/11 together?

Back in the 90's, if the chemistry was right, I would have had sex with all these guys.

The 90s were a magical time

I wonder if the sky was blue that day?

If they only knew the horrors that the next twenty years had in store for them.

My personal horror is that I can’t look at Ken’s face without seeing Warren Jeffs.

Same, R91. I find Scott to be the most attractive, but they're all cute in their own way.

The original Scream Queens.

I love how Ken goes from being sarcastic to screaming in a nanosecond.

Ken looks like this porn star Jack Sanders...

I love how every single comment under the video is 100% serious. “What a time capsule!” “This made me cry!” “That scream is so heartbreaking!” Is that queen screening the comments?

I do think it's funny to look back on that day. I don't have a recording it, but I remember it very, very clearly. It was an odd watershed night for me.

I was 17 and had started dating my first boyfriend. I'd spent the night at his house (lied to my mom and told her I was at a friend's house.) We had done blow the night before. And to ease the come down, we ordered pizza and watched movies. It was super fun and sexy, even if we were exhausted from the night before.

I remember we watched Running on Empty. It was easily the most depressing movie ever. Well, more bittersweet I guess. River had just died a few years prior. The flick really got to me. Then we discovered Diana had died. Jay was nearly 15 years older than me and he didn't care at all. Wasn't his world. He was too manly for the monarchy.

But I did, even though I didn't give two shits about Lady Diana as a celebrity. It was something more. Some existential loss. Innocence or the reality of death or the ephemeral nature of everything. Or some other teenage angsty thing that I didn't know how to synthesize. Or maybe it was the cocaine come down. Or the movie. Or the pressure of having a man I loved (I did. We stayed together for seven years), but not being able to tell anyone but my two best friends. It all seemed so fleeting and delicate and at the same time too big and heavy to understand.

Either way, on the way back home that night, as I drove home alone, I just balled. And I am not a cryer.

And that's my weird Diana story. Not as good as Uno playing queens screaming. But still...

I don’t remember where I was. It may have been I’d called my mom to check in on her, and she told me.

What happened next is a blur, but I know I fell to the floor, sobbing gutturally and rending my clothes with hands that had become shaking claws. I then threw myself from a 3 story window.

(Just kidding -being an American, i didn’t care.)

Someone needs to write a play about this.

Did we know they uploaded a 16 years later video?

Not sure I'd want to be around when he cums.

[quote]The 90s were a magical time

R92 = born in '92

R14, unfortunately:

Screamer: RIP

Gasper/Pointer: On her third husband

Comforter: Moved on to Palm Desert after inheriting the Screamer's stuff

Sly Smiler: RIP

Videographtress: Videoing grandpa porn for third-tier studio

Hubba: No ones knows.

Hysterical queens + Crazy as fuck colonic irrigation-addicted princess + Tunnel = The Whole Story

R108 is no fun.

Good god, many of you need to get mental counseling.

I want a 25-year, where are they know, reunion special.

The full video is lovely. Nice to see unfiltered gays.

People under 30 don’t realize how big celebrity was back then. There aren’t really celebrities now like there was back then and nobody was bigger than Diana and JFK Jr.

Did they cash in on the NFT?

Does anyone have any pictures from social media of what the guys in the video look like today?

I wonder if the guy who took the video got a nice little check from the HBO documentary producers for using the footage. I hope so.

Here are the guys in 2011.

Here are the guys in 2016.

True r113. I just watched the HBO documentary. While I remembered the events clearly, seeing the footage again was revelatory. It was so interesting seeing and hearing the reactions. Some were quite prescient, but it was indeed annoying to see the odious Barbara Walters, Henry Kissinger, Graydon Carter and the annoying Christopher Hitchens again at their respective heights of power.

R117 & R118 Thank you for finding these! I’m going to watch right now!

THE SCREAM happened 28 years ago today. I wonder if that scream queen is still screaming ?

R12 Uno and this is the first time I ever realized that. Or maybe I knew but just forgot. I discovered these well to do white queens from DL. The Maryiest thing ever. UNO? They shoulda been playing Poker.

[quote] It was recorded in Iowa City, Iowa.

Well, that explains it all.

I wonder if the couple who moved to the "fabulous home" in Raleigh-Durham are still together?

No surprise why I already had pussy R1 blocked.

An innocent game of Uno and not an intoxicating drink in sight. Well done!

I wonder if any of them are still friends ?

LOL

Makes me glad to be a queen!

Is Scott the one who initially smiles when Ken screams? He’s cute. He aged well.

They seem like a fun group. They even got some younger gays to join game night years later.

These are quintessential DLers.

You also have to remember that in the days leading up to her death Diana had been in the news every single day. Her romance with Dodi in France on the Riviera was on the front pages of newspapers around the world. So when she died it was like finding out that someone you had spoken with on the phone yesterday had just died in a plane crash. It was unreal,

And a mere six weeks prior Versace had been murdered in Miami and Diana was prominently pictured in the funeral photos.

I will forever love the slo mo version.....whoever created this deserves a medal.

Loved this, OP. Never saw any of the previous threads. The guys are adorable.

R101 "We had done blow the night before"

Such a reliable historian.

I hadn't seen this video either, despite it being several years old!

I still remember Diana's death. I'm in the UK, so it happened in the early hours of the morning for us hence most of her learnt of her death when we woke up on 31 August. I was only a kid at the time and I was first downstairs in the morning as per usual, so I put the TV on while I ate my cereal. Then I went upstairs and told my parents and they didn't believe me at first - I guess cause I was young they thought I was getting confused with someone else.

It's strange because I was young at the time I saw Diana as "old", so while I understood it was very sad, I didn't really understand the tragedy. Now I'm older than Diana was when she died, I realise how young 36 is and of course she was beloved at the time which just added to it.

Nice to know they're all alive and well and still friends so many years later.

These guys really remind me of all of my gay friends I knew and hung out with around that time.

Yes, R10. That was a widespread rumour during her lifetime. It was said the Spencer children used to chant, "Raine, Raine, go away," too.

I also heard that when Diana was a teenager Raine told her to turn down her music. Diana hired a guy to come and screw up the wiring on Raine's stereo.

Diana and her siblings allegedly also tried to push Raine down the stairs.

Granted, about 99% of the population of Britain would've loved to have pushed Raine Spencer down the stairs.