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Andre Leon Talley fights eviction

Thrown out on the street by a lifelong friend during a pandemic! Quelle horreur!

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by Anonymousreply 413a day ago

Oh, my God. I hate to think of Andre living under a tent somewhere ... oh, wait.

by Anonymousreply 102/21/2021

sounds very very messy. who would enter such an agreement. stupid on both sides.

by Anonymousreply 202/21/2021

Who?

by Anonymousreply 302/21/2021

Who paid taxes? Who paid utilities?

by Anonymousreply 402/21/2021

Andre is a fool.

by Anonymousreply 502/21/2021

Sharecropper to sharecropper in 3 generations.

by Anonymousreply 602/21/2021

Never, ever engage in a business transaction with a close friend. Especially when there is no written contract, but just a tacit “understanding”. When the shit hits the fan, you realise quickly that money always prevails over friendship, no matter how close and long-standing it is. This always ends in tears.

by Anonymousreply 702/21/2021

I'm so glad I'm frugal and squirrel away money. So sad to be his age and in that kind of dispute.

by Anonymousreply 802/21/2021

Tldr, according to the article who was in the wrong?

by Anonymousreply 902/21/2021

r9 both parties seem to have been idiots.

by Anonymousreply 1002/21/2021

The landlord is fabulous. And wants his damn rent money!!!

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by Anonymousreply 1102/21/2021

It's still madness that he's ended up broke and without a job. He must have had some serious emotional issues that made him spend like crazy, buy rent boys, and live like a Queen of NYC.

by Anonymousreply 1202/21/2021

It’s an ongoing legal case, so no one’s right or wrong yet. My thinking is Talley is in the right; the friend filed for bankruptcy and wants to raise cash by selling a property Talley has already, over time, purchased from him (even though the title was not formally transferred.)

by Anonymousreply 1302/21/2021

[quote]Talley also alleges in the lawsuit he has personally spent over $200,000 to maintain the home, including replacing the roof and the boiler ad had the windows and shutters replaced, spending at least $200,000 on improvements.

So, it is $200,000 or $400,000?

by Anonymousreply 1402/21/2021

^^ In response to

[wuote]r9 Tldr, according to the article who was in the wrong?

by Anonymousreply 1502/21/2021

I am sorry to hear all this- I’ve read his books. He’s had quite a life. His bios are very interesting and his honesty about his extraordinary life (not like being black greased the career trajectory) and battles with his weight and intimacy issues. He come ms across as a brilliant iconoclast who beat all odds by force of intelligence and personality- much of it at a huge cost to his sanity. Nowhere in his bios does he portray himself as a victim.

by Anonymousreply 1602/21/2021

I hope he's not like Roxanne Gaye- EXHAUSTED ALL the time.

by Anonymousreply 1702/21/2021

I hope a parade of rentboys are called as collateral witnesses to describe the what they saw and what they did in Andre's house! I would laugh my ass off if it turns out Andre was a big fat TOP and all the rentboys were bubble butted bottoms........ Quelle whatever.

by Anonymousreply 1802/21/2021

My last two houses were bought for me from guys I dated. And I am not a twink but over 50. I also didn't buy my last car. Could this be one of those situations? What kind of friend charges rent?

by Anonymousreply 1902/21/2021

That’s pretty shitty I feel for anyone going through this.

by Anonymousreply 2002/21/2021

R16- Yes he's had QUITE A LIFE- buying things he did NOT need and could NOT afford like a $45,000 car in 1999. In 1999 one could buy a brand new Honda Accord for only $19,000. Why did he need to spend THAT much on a car?

by Anonymousreply 2102/21/2021

That’s just wrong to do to someone unless they’re hurt children or animals.

by Anonymousreply 2202/21/2021

He's so piss-elegant his snack purse is a Birkin.

by Anonymousreply 2302/21/2021

Time to downsize, person and property.

by Anonymousreply 2402/21/2021

You think he is the only one whose money is all kinds of fucked up after a year in quarantine?

by Anonymousreply 2502/21/2021

R11- You can tell that QUEEN is gay from OUTER SPACE.

by Anonymousreply 2602/21/2021

Agree r7.

This entire set up was lunacy. I would never get into this type of financial arrangement with a friend, so often it will end in tears.

I am sure they did tell Andre he could have the house, but the fact is on paper it is their house and he should NOT rely on someone's word. You can't trust people with your life that much.

You have to look out for yourself and you can only count on things that are actually in your name, not other people's goodwill.

by Anonymousreply 2702/21/2021

For someone who worked for Vogue, Talley sure has alot of credit "issues". Where did the money go? Also why not go to good friend Anna Wintours house and sleep on her couch until this whole thing is worked out?

by Anonymousreply 2802/21/2021

The landlord owns a restaurant and a dairy farm, etc etc. Good luck to Talley trying to convince a judge the RICH home owner wants to sell the house for a quick buck. Talley better find a shelter that will take him in.

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by Anonymousreply 2902/21/2021

[quote] Why did he need to spend THAT much on a car?

Retrofitting a car to move the driver's seat back 3 feet so he could fit his fat ass behind the wheel is quite expensive.

by Anonymousreply 3002/21/2021

Bing bang bong

by Anonymousreply 3102/21/2021

Boy, this is like every other case on Judge Judy. It rarely ends well for the "verbal contract holder" versus legal documents showing ownership.

"He said the car was mine because I gave him the money, but he never signed the title over to me... No, I don't have any emails or text messages memorializing the verbal agreement..."

by Anonymousreply 3202/21/2021

If you live in New York City why do you need a car? Just call a car service!

by Anonymousreply 3302/21/2021

Talley was gay but mostly chaste. All in his books. He’s quite poignant and sad when speaking of his sex life, or lack there of and difficulty with intimacy. Also when he was thin early in his career all the sexual innuendo he received when he would befriend a designer (liked for his big black dick). He did not use or hire hookers- hardly.

by Anonymousreply 3402/21/2021

Always get the house in your name. The only reason you wouldn't is if you had garnishments or liens---which sounds like a possibility here. All I pay on my house is taxes. My ex bought if for me. I bet Anna Wintour is avoiding Talleys call right now.

by Anonymousreply 3502/21/2021

He won't be calling Wintour, they had a falling out.

by Anonymousreply 3602/21/2021

R36 Homelessness has a way of smoothing over hurt feelings. Anna better hang on to her checkbook.

by Anonymousreply 3702/21/2021

I hear Big and Beautiful Magazine needs an editor.

by Anonymousreply 3802/21/2021

Sad, final days.

by Anonymousreply 3902/21/2021

OP, post the story. Not a single person on this site wants to go to the NY Post

Failure

by Anonymousreply 4002/21/2021

[quote] If you live in New York City why do you need a car?

White Plains is 35 miles from NYC.

by Anonymousreply 4102/21/2021

White Plains is 25 miles from NYC.

by Anonymousreply 4202/21/2021

Reading between the lines I think ALT is full of shit and is making the whole "once I paid them back the house was mine" thing up. He's undoubtedly made a lot of money in his career yet he refuses to pay his damn bills on time and has shitty credit? That says volumes. Sorry chubs, you ain't got no written agreement it ain't so. Pack ya big ol' tent dresses and hit the road Toots.

by Anonymousreply 4302/21/2021

[quote] White Plains is 25 miles from NYC.

WRONG!

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by Anonymousreply 4402/21/2021

All this tsuris for White Plains, someone above mentioned taxes. If Talley has proof he paid the taxes, well case closed.

by Anonymousreply 4502/21/2021

People will argue about anything. Manhattan is 13 miles long r44. The distance to White Plains just depends on where you decide to start counting.

by Anonymousreply 4602/21/2021

Chile....does Andre get a disability check?

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by Anonymousreply 4702/21/2021

If he can prove he put the 120k down payment that he says he did, he is at least a partial owner.

Didn't all the editors at Conde used to get an interest-free loan from the company to buy a fabulous house?

And the car wasn't 47k. If he had the 47k in cash, which he said he did, his credit issues would have been irrelevant. It was probably some ridiculous car--and the 47 was the required cash portion (in addition to financing).

by Anonymousreply 4802/21/2021

I don't buy it. And i don't think he did, either. He's always been a pretentious twat, so I'm sure he would tell everyone it was his, when he was just renting. This will be interesting reading, though, for the next few months.

by Anonymousreply 4902/21/2021

Andre should move in with Wendy Williams! They are both a MESS. I can see them getting old together, rolling around NYC in their mobility scooters, running over people they dont like.

by Anonymousreply 5002/21/2021

This is Anna's revenge for what he said about her in his recent autobiography.

George Malkemus is very close to Anna and supplied the lifetime's worth of those strappy beige Manolo heels she constantly wears.

She probably made an offhand (but very intentional) comment to George implying it would be a good idea to turf Andre out. I'm certain of it.

"If you've ever wondered what shoe Anna is wearing at all time, allow Andre to explain. "Now, I can say with all authority, Anna's had a lifetime of Manolo Blahnik custom- ordered footwear given to her by our mutual friends, Manolo Blahnik and George Malkemus III," he writes. "Manolo Blahnik holds back nothing for Anna Wintour. In turn, Anna Wintour has not worn any other shoe but Manolo Blahnik— except for little Chanel ballerinas on the weekends— since 1989. I would meet Manolo and tell him what colors and styles Anna wanted, then he would create eight or nine versions for her to choose from."

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by Anonymousreply 5102/21/2021

[quote]But, “Because this promise was not reduced to writing, Talley has no adequate remedy at law.”

Apparently ALT is yet another one who has never watched Judge Judy!

Something about him indicates profligacy with money. How can a grown man who's worked his whole life including for a big publishing corporation have bad credit and no savings? He made "periodic payments"? Why does that sound like "was always scrambling not to get evicted" to me?

by Anonymousreply 5202/21/2021

People in the arts, however liberally you want to define arts, are usually terrible with money and tend to believe people because there is so much fantasy involved in their lives.

by Anonymousreply 5302/21/2021

[quote] If he can prove he put the 120k down payment that he says he did, he is at least a partial owner.

If his name is not on the title, then he is not part owner.

Sounds like he had insufficient credit & could not get a mortgage loan for that amount. What he should have done is have the friend co-sign a loan with him. Both names on the title, both names on the mortgage loan. Still messy, but it's better than his current situation.

by Anonymousreply 5402/21/2021

Perhaps he was Jules from St. Elmo’s Fire or Mozart from that Mozart movie

by Anonymousreply 5502/21/2021

Introduction To Law 101:

Oral agreements are not worth the paper they're printed upon.....

by Anonymousreply 5602/21/2021

I think R51 is on to something. The memoir was published in May, and he was being told to pack up in October.

by Anonymousreply 5702/21/2021

His income from Conde/Vogue was something like 250k. He wouldn't have qualified for a 900k loan--plus, he also had a place in the city. And the ridiculous clothes and car. The "periodic payments" is a problem.

It sounds like his friends used to be rich and generous (to have agreed to buy him a house and let him pay "whenever"), but have become poors.

by Anonymousreply 5802/21/2021

And, if they are going through a bankruptcy, creditors don’t care about informal agreements on assets.

by Anonymousreply 5902/21/2021

What was he/she/they wearing?

by Anonymousreply 6002/21/2021

The probably lent him the money because they wanted coverage for their shoe company in Vogue. When one page in Vogue costs like 200k, they could get endless non-paid coverage and their money back, if one of the editors was beholden to them.

by Anonymousreply 6102/21/2021

I imagine this was friends pulling some scheme to avoid paying taxes or something. But, like marriage or employment at VOGUE, friendship doesn't last forever.

by Anonymousreply 6202/21/2021

The condition of that home might be an issue. His history of senseless consumption and obsessive focus on material things are markers for hoarding, probably exacerbated by the loss of stature and support of influential friends. A very sad, embarrassing situation.

by Anonymousreply 6302/22/2021

I think ALT & that silly queen Dwight Eubanks (formerly of Real Housewhores Of Atlanta fame) who hasn't been seen for years, are made from the same cloth. Like ALT, Eubanks was once claiming he owned the home he lived in. Atlanta Magazine did an article on his home with lots of photos. It was indeed a lovely place full of all his collections. Fast forward a couple of years and the report comes out in the Atlanta Journal that all his belongings had been removed from the house and set on the sidewalk by the eviction processors. Just couldn't find it possible to keep his rent paid.

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by Anonymousreply 6402/22/2021

Damn, who is that creature at 64? That scared me.

by Anonymousreply 6502/22/2021

Sadly, you can drag out an eviction for a pretty long time. I worked at a property management company. Poor people can drag it out 4 to 6 months. But in this case, with lawyers involved he might get it dragged out longer with the counter suit. When a tenant is evicted there are two issues : Back Rent and Eviction. Most landlords will forego the back rent part of their claim so they can get a faster eviction. If ALT has zero proof of his claims he will be gone by fall. If ALT has proof he was paying repairs on the property he can offset that amount of rent but he would have to proof he provided it in writing to the landlord--every lease says repair requests have to be in writing. In this case ALT is claiming to actually own the house---if he never paid taxes on the house, he isn't going to sway a judge of ownership.. ....

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by Anonymousreply 6602/22/2021

R65 It must be bad. The posting doesn’t even appear on my screen. Possibly removed by a moderator.

by Anonymousreply 6702/22/2021

Has anybody confirmed that Andre Leon Talley and Roxanne Gay are not the same person?

by Anonymousreply 6802/22/2021

Separately the NY Post’s coverage of his situation is unusually harsh for a media outlet which was granted exclusivity of the story. You wonder which side of the dispute has granted access here.

by Anonymousreply 6902/22/2021

r67, it's someone you blocked. I can see it, it's not bad.

by Anonymousreply 7002/22/2021

"The papers allege that in 1999, Talley needed to buy a new car but was unable to do so because of “issues with his credit.” Malkemus allegedly offered to buy the car on his behalf using $45,000 in funds provided by Talley."

I assume ALT was making good money but had debt he wasn't repaying. Spending $45,000 of his own money on a car would have demonstrated decent cash flow, which he did not want to do. So he pretends that his friend bought a car for him.

Or maybe it's all BS.

by Anonymousreply 7102/22/2021

Hot squatter video.1:57...The good news is he lives in a mansion. The bad news is he (allegedly) isn't paying rent. I know how he can earn some money...

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by Anonymousreply 7202/22/2021

He should use one of those tents he wears as a tent.

by Anonymousreply 7302/22/2021

The COVID-19 pandemic led to a moratorium on evictions in NY. If the owners have struggled to pay the mortgage on the home without rental income, they may be trying to recover at least a portion of their initial investment through a short sale. Both parties might be under financial duress, and the Bank might call the note and initiate foreclosure proceedings on the property if they have the right to do that. Poor ALT might not have the cash at hand to settle $500k in debt, and even if he did, he could still end up with nothing if the home is legally the property of the plaintiff. Taxes (nearly $30k per year) would be billed to the home’s owner, not the tenant. The absence of a lease and the presence of a title both leave ALT in a tough spot. It sounds really stressful and sad.

by Anonymousreply 7402/22/2021

R65 why are you asking who that creature is? Did you not read the R64 post where it plainly states who he is?

by Anonymousreply 7502/22/2021

Maybe that pathetic cunt should have paid them off before he spent hundreds of thousands of dollars improving what wasn't his yet.

stoopid

by Anonymousreply 7602/22/2021

R74 = The owners are a rich gay couple. They own a dairy farm and restaurant and were fancy shoe designers. Only ATL is talking about them wanting to sell the house. If you look up the owners they clearly are not strapped for cash .

by Anonymousreply 7702/22/2021

[quote]Vogue legend André Leon Talley is being dragged out of his $1 million New York home

Yeah, good luck with that. If ALT is set on staying, they'll need one of these to get him out.

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by Anonymousreply 7802/22/2021

I'm telling you.. THIS is Anna's revenge.

by Anonymousreply 7902/22/2021

So the Devil wears (free) Blahnik?

by Anonymousreply 8002/22/2021

Can he move in with Sarah Jessica?

by Anonymousreply 8102/22/2021

I’m just shocked that there is any property worth that much in White Plains.

I guess this is why having having good credit is so important. Had Talley had decent credit (the article doesn’t say why he doesn’t), he wouldn’t need an intermediary to buy his cars and home.

by Anonymousreply 8202/22/2021

Regarding the photo at R51, for all her desperation to be regarded as elegant, Wintour has classic white trash/chav face, and her wigs are hideous.

by Anonymousreply 8302/22/2021

R53 Wasn’t Talley in the business world though? He worked for a magazine, and publishing is all about selling your product. Part of his job would have been to ensure sales, so surely money was discussed.

Even if he isn’t good at or interested in managing his money (as some aren’t), someone in his position would hire a financial advisor. Didn’t he have any colleagues/friends encouraging him to do this?

by Anonymousreply 8402/22/2021

It’s sad that although he has the far better claim, he’ll likely be be evicted long before grifter Kate Gladstone. He should’ve acquired a child to use as a weapon, as she did.

by Anonymousreply 8502/22/2021

R72- PLEASE, let me have the honor of conducting a FULL CAVITY strip search on this HUNK after he's evicted and arrested.

by Anonymousreply 8602/22/2021

Andre Leon Talley sounds like a TYPICAL DL Queen. He's OLD,OVERWEIGHT,PRETENTIOUS and ALWAYS wears a CAFTAN.

by Anonymousreply 8702/22/2021

[quote] Had Talley had decent credit (the article doesn’t say why he doesn’t)

The same reason 99% of people with bad credit are in that position. He wouldn't/couldn't pay his bills on time.

by Anonymousreply 8802/22/2021

On what planet is that house at the R72 video a mansion?

by Anonymousreply 8902/22/2021

R88 I assume that most people with bad credit aren’t making $250,000.00/yr, though...

by Anonymousreply 9002/22/2021

[quote] [R53] Wasn’t Talley in the business world though? He worked for a magazine, and publishing is all about selling your product. Part of his job would have been to ensure sales, so surely money was discussed.

There is a difference between work and your private life. I've seen plenty of doctors, cleaning ladies, or bankers who were a hot mess in private who couldn't provide the service for themselves they do at work for others. (doctors and their private unhealthy habits, cleaning ladies having messy homes, bankers not able to manage their own money).

by Anonymousreply 9102/22/2021

Only one solution now, Andre has to call Sister Tyler Perry for a love offering. TP is generous when he sees people in the business who have fallen off.

Im kinda surprised sister Andre doesnt have a credit repair stunt queen to finesse him a nice little place!

by Anonymousreply 9202/22/2021

Maybe he can use one of the tents he wears as a tent.

by Anonymousreply 9302/22/2021

I have met him twice, he could not be a nicer person. He's one of those people that make you feel like the most important person in the world. Sad that his life has come to this. Read his books, you'll see the real person.

by Anonymousreply 9402/22/2021

I pray to Cher they get Michael-Leon Wooley to play him in the movie.

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by Anonymousreply 9502/22/2021

Everybody making the tent jokes, that was literally the first reply.

by Anonymousreply 9602/22/2021

[quote]Andre should move in with Wendy Williams! They are both a MESS. I can see them getting old together, rolling around NYC in their mobility scooters, running over people they dont like.

They could share Mumus

[quote] This is Anna's revenge for what he said about her in his recent autobiography. George Malkemus is very close to Anna and supplied the lifetime's worth of those strappy beige Manolo heels she constantly wears. She probably made an offhand (but very intentional) comment to George implying it would be a good idea to turf Andre out. I'm certain of it.

Why she's a regular god damn Martha Harti.

by Anonymousreply 9702/22/2021

Is it even possible to evict someone that large?

by Anonymousreply 9802/22/2021

Told you I was hardcore.

by Anonymousreply 9902/22/2021

[quote] Oh, my God. I hate to think of Andre living under a tent somewhere ... oh, wait.

Oh snap, that is a good one, that’s funny

by Anonymousreply 10002/22/2021

[quote] It's still madness that he's ended up broke and without a job. He must have had some serious emotional issues that made him spend like crazy, buy rent boys, and live like a Queen of NYC.

You mean rent boys would actually knowingly tap that? Do they get hazard pay?

by Anonymousreply 10102/22/2021

I read one of ALT’s bios and he had a lot of complicated friendships with rich/eccentric people who would give him expensive things and let him stay with them in fabulous European homes, and then one day would be done with him.

George Malkemus may be rich, but he’s no longer running the Blahnik empire and he’s being sued by his old company for close to $1M. His need for ALT is gone and he needs some cash for that lawsuit.

by Anonymousreply 10202/22/2021

Maybe he [italic]can't[/italic] leave the house.

by Anonymousreply 10302/22/2021

You'd think someone who was Warhol'd (2nd) Factory receptionist, and has been employed in fashion for 45 years, would have banked a little coin.

Maybe the Kardashians will help him out, as he helped legitimize them with his lavish Vogue articles.

by Anonymousreply 10402/22/2021

Brilliant R1. Best of Datalounge! This is why I come here.

by Anonymousreply 10502/22/2021

Does he live alone? I would be so uncomfortable living alone in a large house. I grew up in one but we were a big family and my grandmother even lived there.

by Anonymousreply 10602/22/2021

I don't understand how someone who earned significant money for at least a decade (if not longer) didn't put away money to purchase a place to live.

by Anonymousreply 10702/22/2021

Isn't it a major conflict of interest that he entered into a financial agreement like this with a designer while working at Vogue? It would be like the government buying a house for a reporter.

by Anonymousreply 10802/22/2021

For some reason this sounds like a Black Jeopardy answer under the category:

"Wha' Ha' Happen' Was"

by Anonymousreply 10902/22/2021

"Then in 2004, Talley was renting a home that developed a mold problem and he needed to find a new place near New York. “At the time, Talley’s work schedule was particularly demanding and he could not obtain traditional financing,” the lawsuit claims."

I'm not sure how a busy work schedule could negatively impact creditworthiness, in fact one might assume the opposite would be true, but I suspect ALT's obvious lack of impulse control led both to his swollen stomach and empty bank account. Maybe the White Plains school district needs a student counselor à la RuPaul in the Brady Bunch movies?

by Anonymousreply 11002/22/2021

A lot of Andre’s job was puffery and exaggerated reality. I agree he likely had an expense account and had things given freely to him- and didn’t really have to think about money.

The other half of this is upbringing and the way your parents (or partner) teach the diligence behind how to handle, save and spend money. You can’t do this if you’re expensing everything to Vogue to pay.

Also, media has been downsizing for decades. I doubt he was bringing $210K home a year and today’s editors and interns come from wealth and are willing to work for much less just to have a prestigious job.

by Anonymousreply 11102/22/2021

R111- PUFFERY-LOL.

True

by Anonymousreply 11202/22/2021

They'll need a forklift to evict him.

by Anonymousreply 11302/22/2021

R87---Quite the zinger! Ouch!

R109---STFU, racist fuckwit.

by Anonymousreply 11402/22/2021

$250,000 per year doesn't sound like that much money. He probably felt compelled to keep up with the lifestyle that was all around him. Thus, he blew through his salary quickly. $45,000 doesn't seem like a crazy amount for a car. But in his world, you don't buy a $45K car and drive it for 10-20 years. You trade it in in 2 years. It's never-ending.

I hate to generalize, but I think successful black people feel like they have to help (financially) their family and friends who are less fortunate. He probably gave / lent a lot of money.

by Anonymousreply 11502/22/2021

If he isn't on the deed he owns shit....Now, how easy was that?

by Anonymousreply 11602/22/2021

ALT could ask a court for an equitable remedy (outside of contract). I'm forgetting the terms, but "unjust enrichment" and possibly "quantum meruit" come to mind.

by Anonymousreply 11702/22/2021

The article refers to a "never operative lease agreement". I am guessing that Manolo guys and ALT did sign a lease agreement, which was intended to be a disguised real estate purchase agreement. ALT could show creditors that he was not buying an asset - just paying rent! But secretly, ALT and the Manolos would treat it as a purchase agreement. Then, the Manolo guys run into problems, and the "never operative" lease agreement becomes operative.

by Anonymousreply 11802/22/2021

R82, a million dollar home doesn’t sound all that fancy. My Boston condo is worth more.

by Anonymousreply 11902/22/2021

The article makes him sound super naive. It's a miracle a gullible person like that managed to survive in the cut-throat fashion biz for so long.

by Anonymousreply 12002/22/2021

He had paid $200k for upkeep of a house with a title that’s not in his name? Not even written agreement stipulating the “gentlemen’s agreement “ in the absence of title in his name? One wonders if the money he claimed to have spent in upkeep was supposed to offset annual property tax. I hope for his sake he kept a paper trail of receipts and emails/ texts since there’s no written agreement.

by Anonymousreply 12102/22/2021

Him claiming he had a "gentlemen's agreement" is so sad. I have heard that he's actually a very kind and polite man. I think he was / is out of his depth, business-wise.

by Anonymousreply 12202/22/2021

Send it to Judge Judy. She’ll get to the bottom of it in 15 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 12302/22/2021

[quote][R109]---STFU, racist fuckwit.

That's an actual SNL recurring skit led (and probably written by) Keenan Thompson, moron. Stop virtue signalling,.

by Anonymousreply 12402/22/2021

R82 I don’t think you know White Plains or the real estate market as well as you think you do. $1 million will get you a nice house but not anything that could conceivably be called a mansion. $1 million will barely get you a Cape over on Spaghetti Hill.

by Anonymousreply 12502/22/2021

He can live in an apartment like the rest of us do. I don’t know why he feels entitled to live in that mansion he doesn’t own.

by Anonymousreply 12602/22/2021

250 grand a year? For such a high profile job in NY? What kind of multi-million perks did the job entail?

by Anonymousreply 12702/22/2021

Have you seen his wardrobe? He has expensive tastes - even if he gets a huge discount, they add up. He lived beyond his means for a long time and now when he’s practically jobless, he’s in serious trouble. I’m a fan of his so this is sad.

by Anonymousreply 12802/22/2021

He needs a sugar daddy.

by Anonymousreply 12902/22/2021

"What kind of multi-million perks did the job entail?"

The finest, the most billowy caftans on the face of the planet.

by Anonymousreply 13002/22/2021

This is the most "data lounge" story, ever. You can't make it up.

by Anonymousreply 13102/22/2021

So, how many bolts of fabric does it take to make one of his getup's? Are there any mechanical assistant devices built inside to help support the 10lbs of pounds of material ? Could it be that Ms. Talley just 'floats' along keeping the fabric (and herself) in constant motion to give the impression of lightness and weightlessness? If she's in dire financial straits I'm sure there's a way to repurpose some of his moving sculpture to help cover some of the bills.

by Anonymousreply 13202/22/2021

[quote] Have you seen his wardrobe?

R128, I know you weren't trying to be funny, but I think this is part of the problem. Him wearing these caftans / graduation gowns / whatever, 24/7, says (IMO) that he has given up on life. I don't care if that caftan is made of silk. He needs to wake up & smell the coffee, get his life and finances in order.

by Anonymousreply 13302/22/2021

[quote]What kind of multi-million perks did the job entail?

The tiny little flats were gifts. The steel reinforcements that kept them from bursting came out of his own pocket.

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by Anonymousreply 13402/22/2021

Are Data Loungers so tight with their coins that no one has yet launched a Friends of Data Lounge for the Legal & Housing Needs of ALT?

He does somehow manage to be both a ridiculous hot mess and oddly endearing.

by Anonymousreply 13502/22/2021

I don’t get the fallout with Wintour. I remember a documentary that showed Talley playing tennis because Wintour told him he needed to exercise!

by Anonymousreply 13602/22/2021

Here's the background on the rift. There will be no reconciliation betw. ALT & Wintour.

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by Anonymousreply 13702/22/2021

^. I think him getting fat played a big part.

by Anonymousreply 13802/22/2021

He can always hightail it up to “small town Hudson” and bunk with palsy-Walsy Kevin Sessums. They can open up a tasteful olive oil cake stand

by Anonymousreply 13902/22/2021

This actually is not that rare. A lot of these fashionistas--even ones who start out as fairly affluent (like Izzy Blow)--go broke trying to live that lifestyle.

He's a hanger-on of the rich. Much like Grace Mirabella found out when she was fired from Vogue, the minute you don't have the job and can't offer the rich access anymore, you are personally worthless--and they drop you FAST and HARD.

He was crazy to live in such an irresponsible way that--as an adult who was sort of famous--he couldn't even buy a car in cash or a house under his own name. Presumably, he was afraid his creditors would seize the car.

His house of cards, like those of many other seemingly rich people who become broke suddenly, is on the ebb.

by Anonymousreply 14002/22/2021

He looks like Uncle Remus's gay brother.

by Anonymousreply 14102/22/2021

I find it all very sad. He's 72, broke, probably losing his house. I hope he's been paying his income taxes. Will he even have social security? I don't know how anyone starts over at that age.

by Anonymousreply 14202/22/2021

Photo at R134 reminds me, didn't he show up drunk at one of those Met Galas?

by Anonymousreply 14302/22/2021

He bought his grandma's house in North Carolina, the documentary showed it was tasteful and he could move around easily in his billowing caftans. At least he has a place to go to. The doc also showed the White Plains is filled with his stuff. Hoarder with credit problems.

by Anonymousreply 14402/22/2021

He can stay in my closet..

by Anonymousreply 14502/22/2021

He’s fighting eviction but lost the fight with obesity. Damn Diabetes Poster Child.

by Anonymousreply 14602/22/2021

[quote]He needs to wake up & smell the coffee.

He did. And flapjacks, eggs, home fries, caviar, bacon, sausage and ham.

by Anonymousreply 14702/22/2021

The worst evening of my life was spent at a dinner party where he was also a guest. RUDE, disgusting, and had the table manners of a goat. HORRIFIC halitosis also. Mean spirited.

by Anonymousreply 14802/22/2021

I've always imagined that he would be another Margaret Case (except he no longer has a window to jump from past the second floor). Forced out of Vogue (finally), nowhere really to go, nothing to do, money squandered, abandoned by all the superficial friends, vile, cuntish personality after years of practice, physically repulsive, mentally ill. You know it just isn't going to end well, one way or the other.

by Anonymousreply 14902/22/2021

I’d like to think someone like Tom Ford steps up and helps him with a lawyer and funds, maybe lets him stay in his cabana if things don’t get sorted out.

I wouldn’’t mind staying in Tom’s cabana myself!

by Anonymousreply 15002/22/2021

R90

Think again! Plenty of people who earn more than $250k per year have "issues with credit", up to and including being forced into bankruptcy.

Yearly income $250k per year, but a household lives as if earns $400k or more means something is going to give sooner or later.

You'd be surprised how many so called "well off" persons have everything from late payments on credit reports to stiffing local trade and service people for months with unpaid bills.

We're not talking about people with temporary cash flow problems, but those who live way above their heads and simply cannot pay monthly bills on time based on income.

In the old days people like that ran up huge tabs all over town, but paid things off when a windfall arrived (sold a book, got an advance on script, someone died and left them buckets of money, married money, etc..). Today of course creditors simply sell things off to a collection agency or sic lawyers on debtors.

by Anonymousreply 15102/23/2021

R51, I worked for a woman that owns a luxury salon and she and her husband made this kind of money. It was in a beautiful multimillion dollar mansion but equipment was worn out, bills wouldn’t get paid on time, providers were wary of her, the 40K limit credit cards were declined and she ran the business like a piggy bank. One day we were at Nordstroms trying to chat up the head of personal shopping (who looked exactly like Edith Head) and the glare and iciness she gave my boss made me realize there was a whole other side of the story I wasn’t seeing. When she sold her personal home for several million, I assumed she’d pay off all the debt and we’d be able to run the shop better. I was so very wrong.

I found out later she has a terrible reputation as a business owner, her husband has bailed her out numerous times, and she spends more than she makes. I quit shortly after.

by Anonymousreply 15202/23/2021

R152

Had a friend in college (he went to FIT) that worked for someone exactly same. Got the job off the student employment notice board so presumed it was legit. Nearly every other paycheck, which often came late, bounced.

Job was quasi receptionist, secretary, gofer, assistant in a small office. Every other day people were calling up about unpaid bills, some rather nasty, but was told to take messages and someone would call back. He would be told to place orders for lunch/food to local places and put in on house account (anyone remember those?), but often places just said "no credit". So either had to have cash in hand when stuff arrived, or gave credit card number.

by Anonymousreply 15302/23/2021

Few persons of the present day have any really solid qualities, any of the qualities that last, and improve with time. We live, I regret to say, in an age of surfaces.

by Anonymousreply 15402/23/2021

Maybe he can join the demimonde of France like Beau Brummel did.

by Anonymousreply 15502/23/2021

High fashion intertwined with world of beautiful (but wealthy) people is and has nearly always been one of whites. ALT when a young man wasn't exactly an oil painting, but then again neither was James Baldwin who managed to pull his share of white or black men.

So ALT is black, gay, and over years grew increasingly heavier. The cards were just too stacked against him; plenty of white gays didn't mind apparently being his friend, but that's far as things went.

Much of the dirt ALT is spilling many in or adjacent to fashion world have known for ages. It largely is racist, and only now that things are being called out that places have opened up in name of diversity and equality. There is still huge amount of ground to cover, and don't see needle moving towards middle or even three-quarters anytime soon.

Suppose on some levels ALT can be seen as a bitter old queen settling scores. But then again considering his life and work the man should be slightly more ahead in life than he is now. Many of the white gay men his age in the business or adjacent own a house or two, many have married maybe have children..... They're certainly not enaging in bitter public legal battles over who gave what to whom and for how long.

ALT at this point puts one in mind of some tragic figure of a mistress who has run her course and finds doors closing. Worse having failed to insure some sort of financial security and independence, now finds what she thought were permanent gifts merely considered temporary loans.

Moral of story boys is when you're young and fabulous riding that wave buy something. A house, small apartment, something you can afford to keep no matter what.

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He should eat his friend in retaliation.

by Anonymousreply 15702/23/2021

[quote]The landlord is fabulous.

The landlord has no lips.

by Anonymousreply 15802/23/2021

A couple of years ago, when he was promoting his book, he was on Terry Gross' show.

After interviewing people for 40 years, Terry is pretty unflappable. But she met her match with ALT. He was ignorant, rude and condescending, and most times wouldn't let Terry get a word in edge wise. He was going to conduct this interview according to his agenda, not hers.

by Anonymousreply 15902/23/2021

With all the attention understandably on ALT, I wonder also about Makelmus. The same age as ALT (late 60s/early 70s), he's jumped from a 37-year arrangement with M Blahnik, is chased by a $1M claim from this former partnership, and seems to be chasing after various business deals to relaunch his career.

At his age why the haste to jump from the frying pan info the fire again? I assume some of his various side ventures have suffered from the same Covid stresses that put other businesses under; but is he just a workaholic or did he never give a thought to being in a position where if something unforseen happened (Blahnik is 78, for example), he would be in a position to walk away comfortably. Or not it seems.

by Anonymousreply 16002/23/2021

We shall likely never get full dirt on why Blahnik and George Malkemus parted ways, but there is likely a story out there no one is telling.

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"We shall likely never get full dirt on why Blahnik and George Malkemus parted ways, but there is likely a story out there no one is telling."

People got wise to the fact that these assholes were charging $500-$1500 for a pair of shoes that cost $5.00 to make, including material and labor.

by Anonymousreply 16202/23/2021

On DL people are always talking mockingly about silly old queens wearing a caftan but Andre Leon Talley is LITERALLY ALWAYS wearing a CAFTTAN.

by Anonymousreply 16302/23/2021

R163 doesn't see the irony.....

by Anonymousreply 16402/23/2021

Kalman Ruttenstein was a big person, but he never stooped to caftans.

Though one could argue trainers, track pants and over sized shirt aren't that much of a better fashion approach.

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by Anonymousreply 16502/23/2021

R164-, What is the irony?

by Anonymousreply 16602/23/2021

ALT is a SPENDER. I'm not a spender I'm an INVESTOR.

NEVER spend the principal. Invest your money and ONLY spend the income from the investment.

by Anonymousreply 16702/23/2021

ALT grew up in the Black Church so he is naturally conflicted by his gayness. When you deny intimacy with people you settle for the refrigerator.

by Anonymousreply 16802/23/2021

Poor guy has burned through all his social capital, down to the last wooden nickels like Bev Smith. He’s had so much good fortune (fully-underwritten health retreats, lavish travel, misplaced adoration for holographic achievements) but he doesn’t have the self-knowledge to even appreciate it. It’s hard to pity a spoiled and cynical pariah when so many are struggling to meet basic needs right now. Poor old ALT had too much of everything EXCEPT what he needed, like modesty, pragmatism and a calculator.

Yes, yes...Anna Wintour is awful, but I have to admire her stoicism. It takes huge balls, the balls of a cannon, to “ghost” someone like ALT. His vague, amateurish claims of identity politics and mistreatment over the arc of his career read false. The opposite was true. I hope he can provide for his basic needs in these desperate last years. He’s a bit like King Lear wandering on the heath, but less interesting.

by Anonymousreply 16902/23/2021

R159 That’s too bad about his experience with Terry Gross, because she’s a damn fine interviewer, really bright and articulate.

by Anonymousreply 17002/23/2021

On looking “slim” in caftans, from r159’s interview:

[quote]But I did select caftans at a certain age. And my suits - my beautiful custom-made suits are put away because the caftans create a stately, tall image. You can look great in them and look slim.

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by Anonymousreply 17102/23/2021

R169 If ALT has sense, he'll lean into the identity politics sob-story and get some young twink to set up a GoFundMe for him. Seriously, there can't be that many obese, elderly, black queens on whom these people on Twitter could lavish their respect, so he could make enough to keep his head above water. Anna Wintour has cut him off, so he may as well lean into the current narrative about her being an evil, anorexia-promoting white supremacist. That being said, he would no doubt run through any money he'd get very fast, as he seems to have poor impulse control.

by Anonymousreply 17202/23/2021

[quote] Yes, yes...Anna Wintour is awful, but I have to admire her stoicism. It takes huge balls, the balls of a cannon, to “ghost” someone like ALT.

I don't think it would be that hard to ghost him. He opens his mouth and buries his own case. Wintour always held the power. $250K or whatever he was making is a small fraction of what she was making. He was silly to live in that style while making $250K. Where does that number ($250K) come from anyway?

by Anonymousreply 17302/23/2021

[quote]You can look great in them and look slim.

So, we've established that he wasn't spending his income at the optometrist.

by Anonymousreply 17402/23/2021

The kimono/caftan of the fashionista lifestyle has been opened. That lifestyle is all about the appearance of wealth - but no writer or magazine person ever made the kind of money required to live it. Wisdom learned form the years - high income, fancy car, expensive clothes do not equal wealth.

The Millionaire Next Door is the most accurate picture I’ve seen of people I know with wealth - it’s about accumulation of money not spending it. Buying lots of stuff is the exact opposite of generating wealth. But marketing has convinced hordes of young people otherwise - hence the massive credit card debt held by so many Americans.

by Anonymousreply 17502/23/2021

He was sexually abused as a child. That’s why he’s never been able to have a truly intimate sexual relationship, and explains his struggle with food. He’s said he’s given up on trying to lose weight in his last book. It’s his one comfort left.

by Anonymousreply 17602/23/2021

The only difference between ALT and other fabulous type gays who live beyond their means is that ALT never exchanged hole or pole to get anything. Had that been the case he'd probably have more to fall back on. So he might be a broke but at least he can say he never hoed to pay bills.

by Anonymousreply 17702/23/2021

IMO, even if he had had a sugar daddy or whatever, he would have blown through that money by now. There's a reason that he apparently has no credit.

by Anonymousreply 17802/23/2021

So r178 do you think Jussie will be in eviction court in 30 years? Caftan and all?

by Anonymousreply 17902/23/2021

only fans is the answer for ALT

by Anonymousreply 18002/23/2021

Who is Jussie?

by Anonymousreply 18102/23/2021

He needs a Netflix deal.

by Anonymousreply 18202/23/2021

Does the dude have any energy left to host a show?

by Anonymousreply 18302/23/2021

its ruff to get used to bein broke after uve had tons of it.....very ruff indeed.

by Anonymousreply 18402/23/2021

I wonder who takes care of the 1.23 acre surrounding the house? I can't see ALT out there on a power mower.

by Anonymousreply 18502/23/2021

In such situations, I am always reminded of a scene in "I, Claudius" where King Herod advises Emperor Claudius "trust no one." I personally cannot think who is more odious, Talley or his boss, Wintour, both are enough to make one retch.

by Anonymousreply 18602/23/2021

From January ... Was the masterclass exchange for Parsons being streamed from the home he's being evicted from? (Third photo looks like the inside of a house.)

He might have to do it from Starbucks.

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by Anonymousreply 18702/23/2021

"This house has 11 rooms, but I only use two of them."

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by Anonymousreply 18802/23/2021

[quote] His income from Conde/Vogue was something like 250k. He wouldn't have qualified for a 900k loan

Yes he would. In fact, $900K is right around the upper limit on what a person could borrow for a home on that income. Assuming his credit is otherwise decent.

by Anonymousreply 18902/23/2021

Anna Wintour isn't really connected to this story. She owes him nothing. They worked together, she fired him. He enjoyed the merry go round, all the perks. Then it stopped. He was very happy to belong to the fashion pack, now he's been cast out he decries it's (undoubted) racism, elitism, nastiness. His health issues, obesity, his loneliness, his financial woes, Wintour is not responsible for any of that. If it's true he has another house in Carolina, that's great! He's doing better than most of us.

by Anonymousreply 19002/23/2021

He got the mowing attachment for his mobility scooter

by Anonymousreply 19102/23/2021

And when Andre sits around the house

She sits AROUND the HOUSE!

by Anonymousreply 19202/23/2021

Does he keep all of those huge designer kaftans, kimonos, capes, etc. that he wears? They could take up a lot of floorspace .. lol. .. And since each is so recognizable, I imagine he wears most of them only once; but unlike a dress, is there a market for pricey, designer, used kaftans?

by Anonymousreply 19302/23/2021

blew his money on ho's???

by Anonymousreply 19402/23/2021

More likely HoHos.

by Anonymousreply 19502/23/2021

R175- Exactly.

If you want to be POOR act RICH.

If you want to be RICH act POOR.

by Anonymousreply 19602/23/2021

[quote]Does he keep all of those huge designer kaftans, kimonos, capes, etc. that he wears?

Maybe that explains why he only lives in two rooms. Three caftans per room in the other nine; maybe four if they’re the “slim” ones.

by Anonymousreply 19702/23/2021

R125 I may not know real estate but I know White Plains, and you couldn’t pay me to live there.

by Anonymousreply 19802/23/2021

I doubt his house is in the center of white plains near all the commercial business. It’s probably on the edge near Scarsdale.

by Anonymousreply 19902/23/2021

Maps shows the house is about 5 miles from Scarsdale. It's over by the I-87 (hamlet of Worthington).

by Anonymousreply 20002/23/2021

Oh my goodness that is a very large colored homowesual man !!!!

by Anonymousreply 20102/23/2021

He told Wendy Williams that he's "sexually fluid."

by Anonymousreply 20202/23/2021

Gurl the only fluidity that sista has is when she retains water .

by Anonymousreply 20302/23/2021

she aint missin no meals.....her health must suck, way too obese.....sad

by Anonymousreply 20402/23/2021

Can't he do a Cass Elliot and move to LA?

by Anonymousreply 20502/23/2021

He has connections with the Savannah College Of Art And Design - move down there and be some sort of grand senior professor. He can't afford LA or NYC.

by Anonymousreply 20602/23/2021

When he quit Vogue to work for a Russian fashion magazine a few years back, it was announced that he had left because Anna had refused to give him a raise. At that time, they said his salary from Vogue was about 250k. He may have been making more on the side as a consultant.

Grace Coddington at the time was paid like 500 or 600k.

Anna 1 million.

by Anonymousreply 20702/23/2021

Publishing never paid nor does pay well, especially fashion. There are people who don't get out of bed to piss for 1 million USD, much less $250k.

Look up reviews of jobs at various Conde Nast publications, including Vogue. Tons of moaning about compensation along standard for industry; backstabbing, cunty and other similar behavior.

ALT was at the high end of salary range for his position. For fashion directors and editors it is the perks of the job that round out compensation. That and whatever else a particular person is able to wring out of "upstairs" when negotiating taking the job.

If AW is getting one million what did ALT expect for a raise? Up to $350k to $450k? That was never going to happen as he just isn't worth that much to Vogue .

by Anonymousreply 20802/23/2021

I had a farm in Africa, ..

by Anonymousreply 20902/23/2021

r61 nailed it. The couple used the relationship with Talley to promote their brand. It was cheaper to loan him money like this and maintain the friendship and preferential treatment than to spend more on ad space in Vogue.

I wonder how a court would view the situation if Talley indeed has paid over $1 million back to them plus put over $200k into repairs.

by Anonymousreply 21002/23/2021

They wouldn’t need ALT. Manolo Blahnik has been supplying Anna Wintour with variations on the same shoe for almost 30 years.

They send her either two or three shipments every year with different materials, shades of beige, heel heights, and strap widths, but they’re all bespoke and made to fit wooden models of her demonic hooves.

....and her toes STILL hang out the sides.

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Toes look like she needs a pedicure. How the hell do you get custom-made shoes and your toes are still hanging out at the sides?

by Anonymousreply 21202/23/2021

This is the property in question.

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by Anonymousreply 21302/23/2021

For you girls arguing about commute time from ALT's home to NYC... For giggles entered address (75 Worthington Road) as departure and destination GCT, according to Google maps travel times are as follows:

Via I-87 South - 34 minutes (fastest route)

Via Saw Mill River Pkwy S and NY-9A S/Henry Hudson Pkwy - 37 minutes

Via Saw Mill River Pkwy S and I-87 S - 35 minutes

In all cases we're talking about a distance of 25 miles

by Anonymousreply 21402/23/2021

How can he still afford rentboys?

by Anonymousreply 21502/23/2021

Something smells about this whole story.

ALT claims he had to move suddenly from another vacation property he had upstate due to mold. He found the property at 75 Worthington Road but was unable to do purchase property himself due to ”rushed circumstances of the move and credit issues.” So he states "accepted the defendants’ offer to help him obtain the house."

Either all three are the dumbest people on planet, or ALT pulled a quick one and took advantage of kindness offered by friends.

Who in their right mind buys a home for someone else to live in without any sort of written agreement as to how things are going to go?

Unless something earth shattering come out at trial Malkemus and Yurgaitis deserve to lose that house. It will serve as another legal lesson " no good deed goes unpunished".

by Anonymousreply 21602/23/2021

What are the eviction rules in NY state? Isn't it going to be hard to get him out of that house?

by Anonymousreply 21702/23/2021

[quote] Isn't it going to be hard to get him out of that house?

They might need a crane.

by Anonymousreply 21802/23/2021

Has he ever had sex? If so, is he a top or bottom?

by Anonymousreply 21902/23/2021

Why is ALT using an attorney with expertise in bankruptcy and restructuring?

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by Anonymousreply 22002/23/2021

"I wonder how a court would view the situation if Talley indeed has paid over $1 million back to them plus put over $200k into repairs."

R210

Normally repairs don't enter into rentals unless LL has been informed what's needed, then refuses to do required work.

If ALT indeed paid one million dollars long as he has proof then there may be some hope for his side. Otherwise it's just more he said - they said.

Reading NYT interview ALT comes across as a tiresome first class bore. She's very grand and rather affected in a common sort of way, not unlike the trans of color going around screaming "fierce".

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by Anonymousreply 22102/24/2021

"The documents also concede, “Because this promise was not reduced to writing, Talley has no adequate remedy at law,” but he still requested he be allowed to continue living in the home and the title be transferred to him."

That's all courts need to know; unless NYS legal system is prepared to create some sort of legal fiction that creates a basis for ALT to be given that property, I don't see him prevailing.

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by Anonymousreply 22202/24/2021

Sadly, this fellow sounds like a freeloader and a deadbeat. I think the pattern here is an awful sense of entitlement and grandiosity. His demanding “work” as cheerleader for Anna Wintour isn’t really a serviceable explanation for bad credit, but Charvet shirts and Concorde tickets might be. There are historical records of people being denied mortgages, a practice called redlining, but this seems different. His struggles with marginalization and bias should be held separate from those who have experienced these in the real world, not a chiffon trench.

by Anonymousreply 22302/24/2021

[quote]Who is Jussie?

Oh, the unitended shade of it all!

by Anonymousreply 22402/24/2021

No one has told me what his JOB was all those years.

by Anonymousreply 22502/24/2021

The biggest sugar daddy of them all was S.I. Newhouse. He funded all of this excess from a fortune estimated at $13B. His family intervened before his death to cut the losses. ALT was simply collateral damage, as was Graydon Carter at VF.

by Anonymousreply 22602/24/2021

He may not get to stay in the home, but if he paid a cent over that they bought it for in upkeep and repairs he can sue for it. 17-18 years is a long time to live in a home that large without spending a substantial amount on upkeep, if he did indeed pay for that. Hopefully he retained receipts!

I once rented from family member who couldn't really afford repairs. Because you are family they expect you to wait forever until they get money together to fix that pesky AC or that busted pipe, and if you don't feel like living in a slum you pay for it yourself. But when you take it off your rent payment its a problem.

by Anonymousreply 22702/24/2021

ALT should startup a francophone version of DL.

French Dissing

by Anonymousreply 22802/24/2021

[quote] "I wonder how a court would view the situation if Talley indeed has paid over $1 million back to them plus put over $200k into repairs."

One million over 17 years is around $5,000 per month. What would the monthly rent be for a mansion that size in on a 1+ acre estate in that area?

by Anonymousreply 22902/24/2021

I can’t find if ALT was paying the taxes as well... I think he’s f-ed due to nothing being in writing. I assume he can have a fire sale & move to a cheaper southern college to be a paid ‘ambassador of fashion’ teacher. He has immense fashion knowledge but I fear his ego and health will prohibit him from every working again.

by Anonymousreply 23002/24/2021

R230 Interesting option. He is generally admired by the community at Savannah College of Art & Design,SCAD (a really cool organization). That community might be a better place for him if he needs to make a change. By many accounts, though, he is not so easy to be around (finger snapping, impatient, easily affronted “Darling do your homework!!!!” self-aggrandizing). His “genius” could technically be neurobehavioral. His extreme focus on obscure, tedious stylistic details of musty old, anachronistic fashion collections is like an autistic child’s hyperfocus on magic tricks or a collection of tat figurines (“we saw this lapel and those buttons in Schiaparelli’s fabulous bla-bla-blah...feed me now! Put me in the FRONT row!”).

Someone somewhere may step forward with a check, but he doesn’t seem to be that sympathetic as a presence in the community, and that fashion crowd is a notoriously mean one. A lot of people have aged off the mastheads of print fashion media, but few were as obnoxious and self-pitying as ALT. The thirst (and hunger) was real, and insatiable.

He might be fine financially. If so, he should do the dignified thing, pay his bills and simply disappear.

by Anonymousreply 23102/24/2021

[quote] I can’t find if ALT was paying the taxes as well.

And not just the property taxes ... I'm no expert, but I think if this were some kind of lease-to-purchase (rent-to-buy) "agreement", then, even if unwritten, some transactions related to it should have been indicated on both parties' income taxes for the year in which they occurred??

by Anonymousreply 23202/24/2021

The tax considerations should have been outliined in the agreement. But with bad credit, and having to deal in cash, why do you think ALT is current on his taxes? Doubtful

by Anonymousreply 23302/24/2021

Coming March 5:

[quote] Malkemus and Yurgaitis’ attorney Edward David said, “The complaint only tells his [Talley’s] side of the story.

[quote] “We have not yet filed our answer or counterclaim which will explain the real story."

This should be entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 23402/24/2021

It's been a long time since I took Business Law, but IIRC, a real estate transaction is only enforceable if it's in writing.

by Anonymousreply 23502/24/2021

Good point, R235, I think I remember that as well. No oral contracts for real estate. I mentioned before that he might be able to get a remedy in equity, e.g., unjust enrichment. However, R229 did the math and maybe what ALT spent was about equal to what he would have paid in rent.

by Anonymousreply 23602/24/2021

The New York Times published a pretty long feature article on the case today.

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[quote]"This house has 11 rooms, but I only use two of them."

Obviously, the kitchen and the bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 23802/24/2021

I'm not very interested in or sympathetic to Talley (I think he's pretty much a shiftless parasite), but I hope this tarnishes Wintour's reputation and leads o her retirement or resignation. She's one of the few people whom I think are more despicable than him, and at this point she should retire anyway since she's over 70.

by Anonymousreply 23902/24/2021

I like how the two guys claim the 120K Andre gave them for the down payment was really a "security deposit"--as if anyone gives a landlord a security deposit that is 12% of the value of the property.

by Anonymousreply 24002/24/2021

NYT piece in R237 delves into the nitty-gritty.

Had wondered why two supposedly smart persons like Malkemus and Yurgaitis got themselves into this position, now can understand. It's another case of being too nice for too long to a moocher.

From NYT Since 2004, Mr. Talley, 72, has lived in an 11-room white colonial in White Plains, just north of New York City.

At that time, George Malkemus, the former head of Manolo Blahnik USA, and Anthony Yurgaitis, his business partner and husband, bought the house for about $1 million on the understanding that Mr. Talley would live in it and pay Mr. Malkemus and Mr. Yurgaitis money each month.

Mr. Malkemus and his husband called this “rent,” and the three men signed a two-year lease to that effect, renewable for up to eight more years.

That lease expired in 2014, and was never re-signed, and the amount of money Mr. Talley paid each month varied widely according to his income stream

"In 2004, according to Mr. Talley’s affidavit, Mr. Talley was forced to leave his New York apartment because of mold. In part because Mr. Talley (for whom money was worth thinking about simply as a means to purchase the beautiful things he craved) had run into financial trouble three times before — he filed for bankruptcy in North Carolina in 1997 and 1998, and in New York in 1993, largely because of failure to pay taxes — getting a mortgage would be complicated.

So Mr. Malkemus and Mr. Yurgaitis offered to act as proxies for Mr. Talley: to buy the house and hold the mortgage — or so says Mr. Talley’s lawsuit, which claims he was operating in good faith that he would one day become owner of the property. He had also paid, his affidavit said, to maintain and improve the property, including spending $12,000 on a new boiler and $30,000 to replace the roof.

Given that in 1999 Mr. Talley claims Mr. Malkemus helped him buy a car in much the same way — for reasons not specified in the affidavit Mr. Talley was “unable to do so myself,” so he wired Mr. Malkemus approximately $45,000, the papers say, and Mr. Malkemus “went to a dealership and used those funds to purchase the vehicle on my behalf” — there was precedent."

Having now paid $955,558 according to an accounting exhibit attached to the filing, Mr. Talley’s petition requests the house be placed in a trust so he can prove his right to ownership. Mr. Malkemus contends that he is owed $515,872.96, and that — well, it’s his house.

/quotes So basically two men with good credit and finances got themselves legally and otherwise involved with someone who has suspect financial history, and money that went up and down.

Malkemus and Yurgaitis further went down that rabbit hole by not either forcing ALT to renew whatever agreement that expired, but let him remain in property using as he saw fit and paying little to no "rent" each month. They also accepted those various but infrequent payments even though they were not same as outlined in previous agreement.

In broadest sense ATL became a month to month tenant after that "lease" expired in 2014. For the next almost six years that unofficial relationship continued. The courts are going to have a field day with this one.

by Anonymousreply 24102/24/2021

R234 - If the shoe fits, throw it.

by Anonymousreply 24202/24/2021

I'm sorry but filing BK isn't gonna make your tax troubles go away. he must have owed a lot more than taxes.

by Anonymousreply 24302/24/2021

Well filing bankruptcy will get everyone else off your back so have money to pay taxes.

Would love for this to go to trail and have ALT spell out under oath exactly what was state of his finances and personal situation that he couldn't buy a car himself, but could wire $45k cash to someone else that could.

You can buy an old beater or used car for much less than $45k, so Miss Talley must have wanted something more upscale than a Toyota Corolla.

by Anonymousreply 24402/24/2021

According to tax records.--

In 1994, he owed IRS $363,288.36 (tax lien)

in 2003, he owed IRS $ 29, 805 (tax lien)

He didn't pay them off until Dec 2009!

by Anonymousreply 24502/24/2021

The car must have cost more than $45,000. If the car “only” cost $45,000, he could have bought it himself (paid cash), without help.

by Anonymousreply 24602/24/2021

I think it was a Lincoln Town Car that he was purchasing, so that would have been around 75K.

by Anonymousreply 24702/24/2021

Lincoln Towncars back then cost less than $25k

by Anonymousreply 24802/24/2021

Not with upgrades and customization.

by Anonymousreply 24902/24/2021

R248 He’d have to have it altered to be able to fit behind the wheel. Not sure what that would cost.

by Anonymousreply 25002/24/2021

He didn't want to put the car in his own name if he had creditors.

They would have seized the car and sold it to satisfy some of his debts.

by Anonymousreply 25102/24/2021

Overweight grandiose delusional shvartze makes his own bed and then refuses to lie in it. Film at 11!

by Anonymousreply 25202/24/2021

Having not seen the "accounting exhibit" wonder if figure of $955,558 USD reflects payments made over years, or includes work done on property.

by Anonymousreply 25302/24/2021

Mark my words, this is going to end like that film Rebecca. Miss Talley is going to set fire to her "Manderley" clutching an embroidered pillow and crying hysterically as place burns down around her.....

by Anonymousreply 25402/24/2021

R249

Yes, like a specially reinforced suspension to better carry heavy and wide loads.

by Anonymousreply 25502/24/2021

You laugh, but if Tiger had been driving a reinforced Lincoln Towncar, he wouldn't have rolled off the road.

by Anonymousreply 25602/24/2021

[quote]Having not seen the "accounting exhibit" wonder if figure of $955,558 USD reflects payments made over years, or includes work done on property.

Will be interesting, R253. I was struck by the modest amounts cited in the NYT article (24 Feb.; linked upthread) for landscape expenditures. $1400 annually on landscaping (assuming that includes lawn service) is crazy low, and $10,000 doesn't go far with an arborist, let alone on a large property with mature trees -- over how many years. If only the rest of his expenditures were that modest, his claim might be received more favorably -- and he might never have landed in this unpleasantness.

[quote]According to his affidavit, he pays $1,400 annually for landscaping and “have spent approximately $10,000 to maintain the larger trees.”

Not that ALT wasn't all kinds of stupid, but working in a position whose purpose boils down to luxury and conspicuous consumption ALT was hardly alone is his dangerous game. Where everyone is surrounded by rich and very rich people, where (like NYC itself) no matter how rich you are there is someone nearby whose wealth will make you feel very poor indeed, where the false modesty of "oh, that, that's nothing, really" touches everything from a $12 muffin to a Newport beach cottage, more than a few get in over their heads, or work a sham that gets ever more complicated. When you take a step back and look around the swimmers in the same pool, some are marvelously adept at the strenuous and dangerous game, just barely keeping afloat and pretending they can swim, while for others it's always already way too late.

by Anonymousreply 25702/24/2021

Late as 2001 ALT had a chauffeur driven BMW, though maybe he didn't own the car.

Oh and the "chauffeur" was ALT's personal assistant at time "Teddy".

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by Anonymousreply 25802/24/2021

Now this could be the Lincoln Town Car in question...

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by Anonymousreply 25902/24/2021

Talley with his ride — a black BMW 7 Series Hybrid — outside the Fall 2011 Rodarte show, February 2011

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by Anonymousreply 26002/24/2021

Vogue used to pay for some of its editors to be chauffeured. That might (or might not) have been a fringe benefit.

If this actually does go to court, we will learn many interesting things.

by Anonymousreply 26102/24/2021

If ALT is so hard up she should hock some of that LV.

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by Anonymousreply 26202/24/2021

No one is going to invite her anywhere anymore, Samsonite will due just fine....

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by Anonymousreply 26302/24/2021

R257

"$1400 annually on landscaping (assuming that includes lawn service) is crazy low,"

Oh I don't know..... Sadly no small number of homes employ illegals directly for landscaping services, or use a contractor who depends upon same. Either way cost is often dirt cheap, hence the attraction. No, the work isn't very good, but they rush through as many customers daylight will permit so make money on volume.

by Anonymousreply 26402/24/2021

There will be some sort of negotiation and he’ll bow out and move south to the house he had bought for his mom. I’m guessing he had hyped the advance and sales of his recent books and the numbers came in much lower than thought and he stopped paying rent.

You KNOW that tub probably has a black ring around it and is going to need to be replaced.

by Anonymousreply 26502/24/2021

Maybe gay friendly Stevie Wonder will invite Andre to stay in his new Ghana mansion in 2021.

by Anonymousreply 26602/24/2021

he will have to file for BK again...the legal fees must be expensive!

by Anonymousreply 26702/24/2021

R257

Perhaps, but then again as the NYT piece linked above fashion long has been a place where "gifts" and compensation (thus illusions of wealth) long have been twisted.

From NYT piece

"It may seem relatively minor — a free bag here, in the hope that an editor may be photographed carrying it to her seat in the front row, hence serving as a quasi-advertisement for a brand, or a free trip to a show in a faraway country, with a first-class ticket and hotel, in return for a review that otherwise wouldn’t happen because of tightening budgets.

But as Mr. Talley’s situation shows, such arrangements, always unspoken, helped carve out a wider slippery slope. And it’s easy to lose your footing and slide all the way to the bottom."

"Indeed, his most formative relationship in fashion, according to his memoir, may have been with Mr. Lagerfeld, a designer whose work he covered, at whose estates he often spent holidays, and whose gifts to Mr. Talley included a Fabergé pin and a giant Louis Vuitton trunk.

“If you were in Karl’s life, he dressed you,” Mr. Talley writes in his book. “Paloma Picasso and Ines de la Fressange were dressed free of charge at Chanel and Fendi. As was Tina Chow.” As was Mr. Talley."

"According to the fashion news website Fashionista, for example, the average assistant market editor at a print title, whose job is to help select which items end up in published roundups and reviews, was $25,000 in 2019. To supplement these low incomes, those editors may sell items they have been given to them as a way to make extra money, a practice fueled in recent years by the booming online resale market."

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You see there is very little wealth in fashion industry at least on side of drones and adjacent persons. Money is with those who buy things, own the fashion houses, and otherwise provide capital to keep things going. M. Bernard Arnault is wealthy, and can back that up any day of the week. Those further down the line may have closets and homes filled with labels and trappings of wealth (courtesy of gifts or whatever), but it's all an illusion.

ALT lived way above his head in part because Vogue allowed it to happen. It was Anna Wintour, his then-boss, asked S.I. Newhouse, the Condé Nast chief executive, to advance ALT an interest free loan so he could purchase that house for his grandmother.

It is also true that when ALT began working at Conde Nast low compensation for key employees was rounded out by expense accounts, wardrobe allowances, those sort of things. Conde Nast could write some or all of those things off their own taxes to lessen the financial pain.

by Anonymousreply 26802/24/2021

Even if ALT somehow obtains that property he'll never be able to maintain the place. Property taxes alone run about $25k per year, and we know ALT cannot even pay "rent" on time due to erratic income issues.

At his age how is ALT going to support keeping up two properties without a steady source of income? He has already admitted his retirement is not very financially secure. My guess is if he does get the White Plains property free and clear it will be on the market before long .

by Anonymousreply 26902/25/2021

Since they used his cash to buy the car so it wouldn't be in his name, I imagine the fake lease agreement was to prove to any creditors that the house was not his asset and couldn't be seized to pay his debts. I would bet that the understanding was that once he paid off the IRS and his credit cards and other private debt had timed out, the house would be transferred to him once he paid it off.

The two guys who did this should know that once can get in trouble (legal trouble) for putting assets that belong to someone else in their name to help that someone shield the assets.

by Anonymousreply 27002/25/2021

This whole thing reeks of stupid, all around. I dislike ALT on almost every level, but something inside me says he's telling the truth, and the two guys are having financial problems now, and are trying to take advantage of ALT's naivete, and his current poor standing in popularity. The smart thing to do would have been to put the house, from the beginning, into an LLC, or a trust.

I still don't understand how ALT's income could have been sporadic. He worked for a huge corporation, and must have received a regular paycheck.

by Anonymousreply 27102/25/2021

r263, ...that pic, like he's ever played a game of tennis in his life!

by Anonymousreply 27202/25/2021

From R263's link

[quote]So overweight fees are paid for by my Air France mileage.”

No one has that many miles.

by Anonymousreply 27302/25/2021

This is all very sad and lurid. I would be so humiliated to have spent my life crowing about pretentious, overpriced ugly things, and then have it publicly disclosed that my own finances were in shambles. This whole story is disturbing, more so in that so many people are broke right now. This conspicuous consumption is vulgar enough, but magnified tenfold by this chapter of his life. It’s really putrid. You wonder about the condition of that home. It is likely squalid and packed with old frausty clothing and trinkets. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 27402/25/2021

Some of those photos upthread are from not that long ago. ALT was svelte enough to not be wearing a tent.

This is a cautionary tale for me. You can't expect to live your life the "same way" you've always lived it. You have to not only adjust, but feel grateful for what you do have. Whether it's money or looks or deceased and loved family members.

If ALT would corral all his assets, liquidate as many as possible, sell his old Louis Vuitton ... He'd have enough for a new start. So what if it's in a town house in Atlanta.

by Anonymousreply 27502/25/2021

When speaking of ALT, I’m shocked no one has mentioned his paint peeling halitosis! Deeply intestinal-based, it could truly knock the flies off a shit wagon.

by Anonymousreply 27602/25/2021

R276, see R148.

by Anonymousreply 27702/25/2021

All this talk about cars reminds me of the not so blind item about him, ca. 2009.

[quote] Which towering, flamboyant Vogue contributor caused amusement on W. 52nd St when he threw a fit because his limo driver stopped all of six feet away from him? He huffily refused to move, and the increasingly rattled driver was unable to back up, forcing him to circle the block again to align the door more directly with His Majesty's Gucci loafers.

by Anonymousreply 27802/25/2021

It was Agatha all along.

by Anonymousreply 27902/25/2021

His breath was mentioned earlier, but I remember hearing somewhere that his breath could usually be equated to someone eating dirty ass for breakfast every morning.

by Anonymousreply 28002/25/2021

What fucking crust!

"“As he rose in the fashion world and found his circumstances frequently changing and demands on his time increasing, Talley often relied on a selection of his close, trusted friends to assist him with various aspects of his personal life, including the Defendants – and Malkemus in particular,” according to his filing. "

ALT's ego is almost big as himself, or possibly larger.

How about poor black man who was broke and suffered from various financial and legal woes used others to continue living a lifestyle he couldn't afford.

Miss Girl makes herself sound like Booker T. Washington or someone of equal importance in the community of color or world for that matter.

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by Anonymousreply 28102/25/2021

r274 = Anna W.

by Anonymousreply 28202/25/2021

R282...I think R276 is Anna W. too.

by Anonymousreply 28302/25/2021

Deep down inside he was always the poor little black child .Hence the overbearing hauteur and deeply pretentious behavior. I disliked him mostly ,but now I feel deeply sorry for him. he needs to have the granddaddy of all estate sales and learn to live within his means on the proceeds. Honey,in the 80s I knew scads of queens who lived just like ALT. $300 shirt,$600 loafers yet couldnt pay the light bill.

by Anonymousreply 28402/25/2021

[quote]Has he ever had sex?

Yes, but it's a time consuming process. First you have to roll him in flour and then start the search for the wet spot....

by Anonymousreply 28502/25/2021

I had to be blunt, but wasn’t he kept around as the “House Negro” at Vogue/Condé Nast?

by Anonymousreply 28602/25/2021

Ugh, I don’t want to see this hideous outfit, but no matter how many times I block this thread it pops back up like a Whack-A-Mole??

by Anonymousreply 28702/25/2021

I think we need a jacket here.

by Anonymousreply 28802/25/2021

Maybe he could arrange a celebrity auction through Julien's in LA. His Vuitton luggage would sell, but would there be any interest in the oversized and garish clothing.

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Who?

by Anonymousreply 29002/25/2021

R289 “A Gentleman’s Arcade of Luxury Treasures” looks like a lot of expensive, impractical impulse purchases. That particular type of materialism seems very empty. I wonder how many lonely old guys are swallowed up in tattered finery like this. I would rather have freedom, security, simplicity, and not get trapped in all that ornate but useless crap. Maybe the owner of these items truly enjoyed gathering them. I hope so.

by Anonymousreply 291Last Friday at 3:12 AM

[quote]"I have four empty bedrooms in my house. One is for guests, and the other three are closets." -Andre Leon Talley.

Doesn't sound like the stuff of on of 'The Gentleman's Sale' catalogues for Christie's or Sotheby's or Bonham's: £1500+ cufflinks, Hemingway's desk blotter made of bull hide in Pamplona in 1923, a box of marble phalluses snapped off classical Greek and Roman sculptures and smuggled out of the Vatican collections and sold to an English bachelor duke in the early 18thC... Instead it sounds more like the the contents of hundreds of SWAG bags emptied out onto the floor of each guest room until the doors could no longer be closed.

by Anonymousreply 292Last Friday at 3:30 AM

So what of the outcome, is he on the street.

by Anonymousreply 293Last Friday at 4:04 AM

[quote]but would there be any interest in the oversized and garish clothing.

It could set off a post-pandemic “Ghost ALT” craze.

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by Anonymousreply 294Last Friday at 5:35 AM

I feel for him. But he needs to move into a condo.

by Anonymousreply 295Last Friday at 7:52 AM

The NYT article says his lawsuit includes a statement that he pays "$1,400 annually for landscaping" and “has spent approximately $10,000 to maintain the larger trees."

I'm laughing, because that sounds like NOTHING for a 1.23 acre lot. .. We pay a gardener $1200 a year to maintain a 7500 sq ft. lot, and the house itself takes up at least 1/3 of the lot. Anything extra like new plants, supplies, sprinkler repair, etc. is charged separately. .. And a recent quote to remove just one large pine tree was $5000.

by Anonymousreply 296Last Friday at 11:38 AM

[quote] I feel for him. But he needs to move into a condo.

He could get this mobile home in Bohemia on Long Island for $135K. .. Perhaps they'd even throw in the medical equipment in one of the bedrooms.

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by Anonymousreply 297Last Friday at 11:46 AM

[quote]Maybe he could arrange a celebrity auction through Julien's in LA.

Having dealt with D. Julien on a personal level during a sale, I came to the opinion he is a closeted, money-grubbing, fame-whore and not to be trusted. I could be wrong...

by Anonymousreply 298Last Friday at 11:49 AM

[quote]And a recent quote to remove just one large pine tree was $5000.

Sounds like you aren't anyone special. ALT's arborist can use him as a reference and client list which trades out in publicity.

by Anonymousreply 299Last Friday at 11:51 AM

Did the give him the Talley Ho?

by Anonymousreply 300Last Friday at 12:22 PM

[quote] In his memoir, he revealed how he thought the love of his fashionista friends would last for ever, but that they cruelly dropped him when he was no longer useful to them.

Hasn't he ever watched Project Runway?

Rule No. 1: "As you know in fashion, one day you're in. And the next day, you're out."

by Anonymousreply 301Last Friday at 1:12 PM

R293

ALT still has that house he bought for late grandmother down south IIRC. There might be an apartment somewhere in NYC as well.

Miss. Ghurl won't be homeless, she just wants to hang onto that house like Scarlett O'Hara wanted Tara

by Anonymousreply 302Last Friday at 1:50 PM

It is telling that people ALT thought were his friends or even tight haven't offered much if any support.

Tom Ford could buy that house in Greenberg many times over or just gift ALT one million and not suffer any harm to his estates. But guess ALT and Mr. Ford weren't that close after all.

by Anonymousreply 303Last Friday at 1:59 PM

I wouldn't give money to someone who is bad with money. If anything, I would pay, directly, for something that that person needed.

by Anonymousreply 304Last Friday at 2:02 PM

Characters like Jack McFarland (Will and Grace) and Carrie (SATC) are far too common in real life.

While both handled their finances very badly, Jack compounded things by being a supreme moocher. Grace was a bit of a mooch as well, but at least she did work and thus could be forced when situation called for to pull her socks up.

You end up with a mooch as a friend basically same as Will ended up with Jack. Maybe friends since grade or high school, perhaps college, but what not a big deal back then becomes annoying in a grown ass man.

Gang goes out for a meal, the mooch cannot pay his end, so you cover. Every other week or month there is some sort of financial drama (can't pay rent or whatever), so is looking for a touch. Wants to tag along on a trip to Paris, France or whatever, but can barely afford air fare, then spends balance of trip broke so always asking for money. In the end you've lent "Jack" so much money over the years it becomes some sort of nasty co-dependency. You want and should cut him off, but then feel guilty about what surely will likely happen (penury).

You want to say away from people with complicated and nasty financial lives. Like a drowning man they will take you down with them if you get too involved.

by Anonymousreply 305Last Friday at 2:16 PM

Even if Tom Ford is good friends with ALT, I don’t see any reason why he should gift him $1M.

by Anonymousreply 306Last Friday at 2:20 PM

The elephant in the room is how can this elephant in the room be such a pretentious phony when his own finances are straight mess? I can’t kick him while he’s down for overspending, over-eating and overstating his stature as a pioneer of diversity in fashion, not because of sympathy, but only because I might lose my shoe in layers of velvet and gristle, or trenches of chiffon, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 307Last Friday at 2:21 PM

And his follow up book: The Taffeta RV

by Anonymousreply 308Last Friday at 2:25 PM

R297, I love the fact that the monthly maintenance includes a “cesspool”. Of course, who wouldn’t have a cesspool on their property ?

by Anonymousreply 309Last Friday at 2:32 PM

R309

Actually septic tanks and cesspools are still rather common in many areas of NY, NJ, Conn....

Properties were developed before municipal sewer lines were installed, and or there simply aren't any so everyone is on septic or has a cesspool.

City of New York is only now finally installing sewer systems in parts of Staten Island that were long developed but city never put in sewers. Super Storm Sandy exposed how badly things flood, so that lit a fire under city as well.

There are parts of Queens (IIRC) that also lack municipal sewer system/storm drains, that are gradually getting as well.

IIRC house ALT is living in was built around 1850, so yes, it isn't odd at all property still has a cesspool.

Quick Google search turns up many, many companies that service cesspools or septic tanks in NY, with a good number that call on homes in Greenberg and surrounding area.

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by Anonymousreply 310Last Friday at 2:42 PM

[quote] You want to say away from people with complicated and nasty financial lives. Like a drowning man they will take you down with them if you get too involved.

Except that the "mooch" is one of the editors of the most powerful fashion magazine in the world, and you sell fashion shit.

It's cheaper to do little favors for the mooch (if you personally are worth $250 million, like Tom Ford is, and personally own a large portion of your company) and get free coverage in the most powerful fashion magazine with the highest per page advertising.

by Anonymousreply 311Last Friday at 6:18 PM

Interview with The Guardian (UK) last May.

[quote] He couldn’t afford more stuff now anyway; instead of being chauffeured everywhere as he was in his pomp, a friend called "Chad" gives him lifts to the supermarket.

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by Anonymousreply 312Last Friday at 7:52 PM

I never thought the one friend who would see anyone through their last sad years would be named Chad.

by Anonymousreply 313Last Friday at 8:26 PM

Is the house named Talley’s Folly?

by Anonymousreply 314Last Friday at 8:39 PM

I read the Guardian article, this is why they hate us.

by Anonymousreply 315Last Friday at 8:47 PM

I read the article, too. Nice of Anna to get him the interest free loan on his grandmother's house.

by Anonymousreply 316Last Friday at 8:48 PM

I worked for a Property Management Company. Deadbeat renters are the worst. We had a tenant being evicted and he had a fixtures sale the weekend before his court date. He was selling everything out of the house : chandeliers, Koi from the pond, doors,---you name it. We called the police and they said it was a "civil matter". I was actually the guy who served him his eviction notice weeks before and he ripped it up and threw it in my face. Deadbeat renters who know you cannot recover damages just do not care about anything.

by Anonymousreply 317Last Friday at 9:02 PM

Perhaps this is karma for dressing a shoe-in Oscar winner in this beyond ugly ensemble. No wonder my family started killing each other. Would YOU want to be known as the sister to the girl who wore THAT to pick up her Academy Award????

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by Anonymousreply 318Last Friday at 9:25 PM

Reading that exhausting Guardian article several things become clear.

First in many ways ALT is sort of fashion dinosaur. He keeps living in the past era of "the Swans" and great ladies who loved and bought couture that are now all mostly dead. So much about fashion world from couture on down has changed in past few decades. She may not be the most warm and cuddly woman on earth, but Anna Wintour has kept her job because she understands this, and moves with the times.

As stated previously in this thread publishing does not pay well at all, especially at lower rungs. There is a reason why mags like Vogue have legions of assistants, junior editors and whatever who are sons and daughters of well off to wealthy and connected families. You can't live in Manhattan or anywhere else in NYC on a salary of less than $39k per year. ALT was told off the bat when he first started at Vogue that most of his peers had "other sources of income".

You'd think coming from a poor background Miss. Ghurl would sock away as much of her pay as possible. But no, she went out and bought tons of LV cases and other shit that now clutters up his "homes", that is where money went and is tied up in.

Karl Largerfeld was 85 when he died but still was relevant and in demand because he worked damn hard at being so.

Those twenty something influencers ALT seems to despise are racking in more money per year than himself because they've got something to offer, and people are buying.

by Anonymousreply 319Last Friday at 9:55 PM

Lagerfeld had money because he was a designer, not a glorified reporter.

by Anonymousreply 320Last Saturday at 2:52 AM

^. Have they ever published the content of Lagerfeld’s will? Besides the cat of course.

by Anonymousreply 321Last Saturday at 2:57 AM

I guess he never understood that he was just the eunuch of the harem, a living lawn jockey trotted out by lily white Conde Nast to seem edgy. That Anna and others actually staged an intervention to help him lose weight suggests he curried more empathy than most who weren't actual talent. For all his belly aching about what other people owe him, from jobs to money to houses, he has yet to explain what he has ever given anybody else.

In the words of future poet laureate/rapper Trina, "Don't grow to be a dumb ho, that's a no-no / See if you off the chains / Stay ahead of the game, save up buy a condo"

by Anonymousreply 322Last Saturday at 4:30 AM

Bad comparisons, R322. He has a degree in French and is knowledgeable about fashion; working with Diana Vreeland in young years gave him (almost) lifelong relevance in high fashion. He wasn't just some court jester; he was qualified for his job (such as the job of a contributing editor or editor-at-large at Vogue is).

He should accept that high fashion, or at least Vogue, no longer needs someone with his skill set and profile; American Vogue is full of Kardashians/Jenners/Hadids and fat women. Strange that someone so attuned to style would be going out in such a poor fashion.

by Anonymousreply 323Last Saturday at 4:54 AM

Reading through this thread, it sounds like he is a massive asshole overall.

by Anonymousreply 324Last Saturday at 5:10 AM

If he were smart instead of whining he'd be writing, teaching, giving lectures, involved in some kind of fashion TV thing as a judge etc. All kinds of possibilities to make a good living and keep some fame going.

He should have kept his mouth shut, lost some weight and moved on.

by Anonymousreply 325Last Saturday at 6:08 AM

R325

ALT is in his early 70's and does not have sort of secure finances that would allow him to just teach. Well not at rates he would likely be offered, we're not talking Obama speaking fees here, but likely standard scale rates.

His books have pretty much said everything he is going to say on certain matters. Don't think people are going to pay insane sums to hear him do so again in person. Yes, his knowledge of fashion, couture etc.... is good to great. But there are dozens if not scores of professors or teachers at places like FIT that know exactly same thing.

Fashion is all about reinventing oneself to keep relevant with the times. Designer, director or editor at a fashion mag, it doesn't make a difference. You've got to keep your fingers on that pulse, and quite honestly try to keep ahead of trends.

Tom Ford knows how to handle his shit, but you don't see him finding a place for his good "friend" ALT in his empire. ALT is stuck living in the past, and won't let it go.

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by Anonymousreply 326Last Saturday at 6:23 AM

R326 Agreed

by Anonymousreply 327Last Saturday at 6:32 AM

R321

No, things are still being sorted. I mean a will of sorts has been found but Karl Largerfeld's estate still hasn't been settled.

However Sébastian Jondeau KL's personal assistant, bodyguard, chauffeur and perhaps more is first out of the gate with a new book.

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by Anonymousreply 328Last Monday at 2:22 AM

Was KL even that close to ALT in a real way?

When ALT's documentary came out, I remember Andre being miffed that Karl had refused to be interviewed for it.

by Anonymousreply 329Last Monday at 2:44 AM

R329

Take it for what you will.....

"Karl Lagerfeld is an incredibly generous friend: Talley's beloved grandmother and his mentor Diana Vreeland passed away just months apart, making the following holiday season incredibly difficult. Lagerfeld, who had also experienced a profound personal loss when his lover Jacques de Bascher died of AIDS that same year, sent Talley a ticket for the Concorde on Christmas Eve. Lagerfeld's driver picked Talley up in Paris and drove him to his country house, where the two spent the holiday keeping each other's spirits up.

Of course, that's not all the designer did for Talley: He presented the editor with a Faberge pen, detailed with his initials in diamonds.

"It's wonderful to have friends like Karl," Talley told Mallis. "When I turned 50, he gave me $50,000." ("And I NEVER slept with him!" he added laughing.)"

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by Anonymousreply 330Last Monday at 3:49 AM

Also from above link:

"I read his new memoir, The Chiffon Trenches, in one hot weekend, barely able to put it down. The writing is deliciously good, and, as a narrator, Talley is both incisive and dizzyingly unreliable, which adds to the fun. A previous memoir, ALT, published in 2003, often felt hamstrung by professional loyalties: “I had to bite my tongue about certain people, for fear of reprisals,” he writes. There is no tongue-biting here. “This is not a bitchy tell-all,” he says, although some may disagree. Karl Lagerfeld, who died last year, was Talley’s close friend for 40 years and showered him with gifts, including $50,000 for his 50th birthday, because that’s how dandies roll. But in the book he is depicted as brilliant yet monstrous, capriciously dropping close friends for no reason (including, you won’t be surprised to learn, Talley)."

KL was a queer fish, you had to watch yourself closely and even then for no reason one day simply found yourself dropped. That cat, those few boys, and some others managed to have life long friendships with KL, others like ALT did not.

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by Anonymousreply 331Last Monday at 3:56 AM

I was watching a video on youtube from CATS, angelicalcats- one of the cats was played by a HUGE black man who looked just like ALT.

by Anonymousreply 332Last Monday at 4:13 AM

i wonder if ALT EVER got laid.

I bet he liked the pretty white boys, but he had THREE strikes against him.

1) He was FAT 2) He was EFFEMINATE 3) He was BLACK

by Anonymousreply 333Last Monday at 4:32 AM

Of course he did, probably one of the reasons why he is broke now.

by Anonymousreply 334Last Monday at 4:58 AM

L'embarras de richesses

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by Anonymousreply 335Last Monday at 9:04 AM

How did the relationship with ALT and Anna W. work? Did they ever meet in person and Anna endured ALT's awful halitosis, or did he have to pop in a mint right before he entered Anna's inner sanctum? Meaning that he was aware that his breath was atrocious, and he got a cheap thrill out of making underlings retch.

The basic problem is that you should always be kind to the people you meet while you rise to the top, because you'll meet them again on your way down. Oh, and stay within your budget.

by Anonymousreply 336Last Monday at 10:00 AM

I’m the one who spent the worst, most cringe-worthy, evening at a dinner party where ALT, grunted and galumphed in, a good 45 minutes late, waving his hands all about as if he was fanning away a putrid smell....He plopped himself down at his place (directly across from me) and was served his plate (by the hostess, this was NOT a super fancy party)....he promptly picked the entire plate up and SMELLED IT, wrinkling his large nose, and rolling his “expressive” eyes.....he then began talking to this poor woman (An Hermés executive, who looked TRAPPED) in FRENCH, ignoring everyone else at the table. It was horrifying. He ate ALL the food, chewing loudly with his mouth open, despite the haughty theatrics when he sat down. The hostess was visibly upset, and a famous jewelry designer, (known for their own odd career....whats’s fact?? what’s fabrication??????) smirked in a corner....this was SO awkward. I know I have told this story here before, but I do believe NOW it deserves to be FLESHED OUT...😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 337Last Monday at 11:18 AM

Not always in a mumu.

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by Anonymousreply 338Last Monday at 1:12 PM

The muumuus didn't come along until about 100 years after that pic was taken.

by Anonymousreply 339Last Monday at 1:26 PM

Is he on the street yet, like an impossibly lumpy carpet?

by Anonymousreply 340Last Monday at 1:35 PM

R333, take out "black" (you obviously have no experience with models) and replace it with "cheap/no money."

by Anonymousreply 341Last Monday at 1:37 PM

Pity George Plimpton isn't around to tape his autobiography like he did for Diana Vreeland.

by Anonymousreply 342Last Monday at 1:37 PM

Andre will rather kill himself than go through the humiliation of having to move even to some place where he's still wanted (if such a place exists).

by Anonymousreply 343Last Monday at 1:38 PM

The inevitable Go Fund Me

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by Anonymousreply 344Last Tuesday at 5:22 PM

Watch this segment from Wendy Williams show. This is from 4 years ago. Here he's fun, engaging, quick. He's interesting to listen to. Totally game. The silly pompous thing works. If he had gotten his act together I could imagine him with a steady TV gig. No?

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by Anonymousreply 345Last Tuesday at 5:38 PM

Half a mil is a very steep crowdfunding goal for someone who doesn’t need urgent medical treatment or who hasn’t had some other life-threatening disaster befall him.

André was on Sandra Bernhard’s short-lived talk show years ago and he was weirdly imperious and humorless. It made me wonder if he’s on the autism spectrum. He would not engage in an actual back-and-forth conversation or banter with Sandra. Instead he just talked about what he wanted to talk about (18th century France if I remember correctly). Sandra kept trying to steer him towards other topics but he was impervious.

by Anonymousreply 346Last Tuesday at 5:41 PM

uhhh ... If ALT still owns the house he secured for grandma down in Durham, NC, then instead of a GoFundMe money beg, how 'bout he sell that house? .. From what I can tell, various real estate websites, put the value of that house somewhere between $500,000 -$600,000.

(Unless, he's already been using that property as collateral for loans or something?)

by Anonymousreply 347Last Tuesday at 6:20 PM

Yeah, this is ridiculous, there are people actually living on the street who are more deserving and in need of something like a Go Fund Me over this man.

by Anonymousreply 348Last Tuesday at 6:23 PM

Why does this lard ass need $500k when his lawyers say they can prove he paid the money, and has a claim to the house? Even if he had a chance of raising that much money, he's essentially admitting that he shorted the landlords a half million dollars. The guy is a pretentious renter who stopped paying rent months or years ago, and the owners were trying to maintain a friendship by giving him a chance. Total grifter. He probably mortgaged the house down south to finance LV caftans.

by Anonymousreply 349Last Tuesday at 6:37 PM

GURL the GoFundMe page says Anna Wintour donated $5 😂🤣💀

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by Anonymousreply 350Last Tuesday at 6:55 PM

R350 I saw that too. Hilarious.

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by Anonymousreply 351Last Tuesday at 6:58 PM

Im not judging him for the GoFundMe page, you either donate or you don't. People start them all the time for all kinds of shit.

Like I said before some wealthy and generous person the industry will probably find out what's going on and give him the money NSA. Tyler Perry has done it for tons of people. I just dont think a lot people know about this because Andre is so specific to the gay and fashion communities.

by Anonymousreply 352Last Tuesday at 7:01 PM

R334

I knew it, just knew a GFM page was going to be started for ALT's fat behind.

What a joke that guy is, and the idiots who are backing this mooch.

by Anonymousreply 353Last Tuesday at 7:39 PM

Akeem Smith...

One wonders if ALT got to him or if idea was totally his own.

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by Anonymousreply 354Last Tuesday at 7:56 PM

They're both fond of caftans, so there's a common bond.

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by Anonymousreply 355Last Tuesday at 7:58 PM

[quote]... If ALT still owns the house he secured for grandma down in Durham, NC, then instead of a GoFundMe money beg, how 'bout he sell that house?

R347, I think your speculation about the NC house --secured through an interest free mortgage courtesy of some Wintour connection, no?-- is probably dead on.

Never having fully owned it, it could be beyond recovery if his finances are as big a disaster as they would appear.

by Anonymousreply 356Last Tuesday at 10:36 PM

ALT wants or rather *needs* that house in Greenberg, NY as a base for his brand. More to the point as a grand place Miss. Ghurl can operate out of and prove to world she's something. No one is going down to North Carolina, and that includes those who inhabit world that matters most to ALT. Maybe if she had something along lines of Biltmore estate down there (fully staffed of course), that might be different.

That GFM scheme is telling. If ALT already paid for that house over years in rent and other payments, why does she need another $500k to fund purchase? If courts out of some bizarre reasoning decide house does indeed belong to ALT, does money raised by GFM have to be returned?

Makelmus and spouse (should they prove successful in court) should turn around and tell ALT if he wants the property their price is now $2.5 million USD. One and half million for house, another million to get back legal fees and other expenses, oh and yes, because he pissed them off.

by Anonymousreply 357Last Tuesday at 11:33 PM

It's difficult to feel too very sympathetic to any of the parties. ALT was a moocher, but so were Makelmus & Co. For how many years did ALT punctuate every third sentence with "Manolo Blahnik"? ALT Lost his mouthpiece and Makelmus lost his deal with Blahnik and there was no need (nor venue) for a giant gas bag to carry on with his "brought to you by Manolo Blahnik" show.

Unless someone turns up some credible paperwork, they're all users and watching them get mutually burned doesn't pain me too terribly much, not enough to scramble to either side's defense fund.

by Anonymousreply 358Last Tuesday at 11:46 PM

So let's say ALT scrounges up the money and pays his "fweinds" what they want. What happens when the property taxes are due? How is he going to be able to afford the day to day upkeep of a house when bitch doesn't even have a job? The utility bill alone must be a beast, especially in the winter and summer.

by Anonymousreply 359Yesterday at 1:43 AM

Conde Nast has a pension plan.

by Anonymousreply 360Yesterday at 2:18 AM

R358 that's this rat fuck in sum. Nice job.

by Anonymousreply 361Yesterday at 5:24 AM

Like fuck would I give money to this asshole. He needs to lose weight pronto, in the Wendy Williams clip, he can barely walk.

by Anonymousreply 362Yesterday at 5:50 AM

Ok so you KNOW the house probably has old man smell in it, one of my friends had cleaned and painted and still couldn’t get the stench out. I shudder to think what the bathroom looks like.

by Anonymousreply 363Yesterday at 5:53 AM

He said that out of the 11 rooms in the home, he only used two of them (probably all he could afford to heat) so the smell factor may ok, except the closed-up rooms probably have black mold now. Tear down!

by Anonymousreply 364Yesterday at 5:58 AM

There's the financial factor, R364, yes, but it's the physical mobility factor reigns supreme. He hasn't seen the upstairs of that house since he last saw his dick. The rest is it is so packed with shit that I'm sure he just tosses arms full of things into the other downstairs rooms, those for which he can still open the door without being buried in a mountain of SWAG debris.

Note that when interviewers arrive he calls out "Come in. I'm back here," because it's an afternoon's work to get off a sofa.

by Anonymousreply 365Yesterday at 6:18 AM

I don't think an obese 70yo whale can lose weight. The skin would never recover and soon rot in all the dark dank layers.

by Anonymousreply 366Yesterday at 6:24 AM

I anticipate him being on a Hoarders episode in 3-2-1.

by Anonymousreply 367Yesterday at 6:29 AM

Can’t he have Kevin Sessums move in to spilt the costs and they can do a dailey podcast of two old bitter queens chatting for some income?

by Anonymousreply 368Yesterday at 6:31 AM

Maybe he’ll find a solution

by Anonymousreply 369Yesterday at 9:58 AM

He better not try to wear a kaftan to court. Only the judge gets to wear one of those.

by Anonymousreply 370Yesterday at 10:27 AM

Nice to see Anna donating two of three times to the Gofundme--$5 each.

by Anonymousreply 371Yesterday at 11:16 AM

When he enters the courtroom, I'd sugget a big hat with a veil and some sunglasses, designer, of course.

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by Anonymousreply 372Yesterday at 11:22 AM

but you can put a fake name and donate right?

by Anonymousreply 373Yesterday at 11:30 AM

What's with these people? I certainly wouldn't donate anything to anyone until hearing some more details about the case.

And could he even afford to pay the property taxes on this place? According to property shark they run about $24,000 a year now.

by Anonymousreply 374Yesterday at 11:46 AM

I kind of want to donate $5 in the name of Karl Lagerfeld's Nightgown.

by Anonymousreply 375Yesterday at 12:30 PM

We've donated!

Hamish Bowles, Grace Coddington, Carine Roitfeld

by Anonymousreply 376Yesterday at 12:35 PM

I'd rather donate in the name of Lagerfeld's cat, who is worth millions. Poor ALT.

by Anonymousreply 377Yesterday at 12:57 PM

a podcast with andre and our lady of small town hudson would be an unmitigated nightmare. Two bloviating gasbags

by Anonymousreply 378Yesterday at 1:12 PM

Apparently he's not as beloved as he thinks he is, if this wee trickle of donations are any indication.

Earlier in the thread I brought up the question of how he would maintain that place should by some miracle he was able to pay for it and buy it in his name. Property taxes, utilities, general upkeep, not to mention his food bill.

Someone said Conde Nast has a pension. How much of a one? It would have to be pretty hefty, and do we even know he's eligible for it? Perhaps it wasn't offered to everyone. He's got social security income, but how much do you want to bet he didn't wait until he could take the max. amount? He probably snagged what he could at 62 and now he's a not so Starvin Marvin. Even if he did wait until 70 to start drawing it, it still only makes up approx 40 percent of what your income had been prior.

He is an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 379Yesterday at 1:15 PM

He was supposed to get a radio show on SiriusXM back in 2017. Whatever happened to that?

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by Anonymousreply 380Yesterday at 1:39 PM

R344

You ain't getting eighty-eight cents outta me Rose!

by Anonymousreply 381Yesterday at 2:50 PM

R380 Makes sense it didn’t happen, fashion just does work well on the radio.

by Anonymousreply 382Yesterday at 3:36 PM

You fools! When will you ever learn?

"On Wednesday, the page had raised $9,335. Talley also thanked Smith and “those who have contributed, I appreciate the thoughtful gesture and generosity, but it is completely unnecessary,” he said."

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by Anonymousreply 383Yesterday at 3:47 PM

Yet he didn't request that it be taken down. But at least he's made sure to go on record for having everything in hand and well managed. *eyeroll*

by Anonymousreply 384Yesterday at 4:06 PM

Except for the one anonymous donation of 2k, the donations are embarrassingly small.

by Anonymousreply 385Yesterday at 4:06 PM

^ Maybe I should have given more than the 2K..

by Anonymousreply 386Yesterday at 4:19 PM

The guy who started it may have put the 2K in to try to get the ball rolling.

by Anonymousreply 387Yesterday at 4:23 PM

Would someone please explain to me what ALT's job was when he was working.

by Anonymousreply 388Yesterday at 4:45 PM

r388 = Vogue Magazine

by Anonymousreply 389Yesterday at 4:50 PM

What was his job at Vogue?

by Anonymousreply 390Yesterday at 4:52 PM

ALT was first hired at Vogue as "Fashion News Director"

You can glean a bit of that job description from bit about new holder of job at link below.

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by Anonymousreply 391a day ago

ALT last two positions are Vogue were first creative director, then finally editor-at-large.

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by Anonymousreply 392a day ago

The litany of editors in publishing....

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by Anonymousreply 393a day ago

Creative director....

Keep in mind many of these titles are just that, actual job description and or duties can vary.

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by Anonymousreply 394a day ago

[quote]ALT last two positions are Vogue were first creative director, then finally editor-at-large.

Large being the operative word.

by Anonymousreply 395a day ago

Whenever you’re something “at large”....they are getting ready to dump you.... Ask Simon Doonan ....😂

by Anonymousreply 396a day ago

Just knew that comment was coming......

by Anonymousreply 397a day ago

If you read his Vogue articles you quickly realised he was not especially talented. IMHO they were stodgy to read, and he didn't bring any blinding insights: all he brought to the game was a retentative fashion memory. Well, whoopy do. Every second fashionista has a parrot-like memory for dredging up recollections of the third gown in the summer collection of YSL in 1882 etc. etc.

He was certainly no Grace Coddington or Hamish Bowles. The only surprise to my mind is that he was tolerated as long as he was. I presume because at the time Vogue didn't have much diversity, and he was seen as a necessary counter.

by Anonymousreply 398a day ago

R379 et al

Again ATL does not have a very secure retirement. This was stated by himself numerous times and even mentioned in links posted above.

One of main reasons he and AW had a falling out (which lead to his departure from Vogue) was ALT asking for a raise. The man did so after looking around and realized he was not where the thought should be for a man his age and near "retirement".

by Anonymousreply 399a day ago

R385

Even if one donated only $10 USD would be asking for a refund after ALT basically told his supporters to fuck off. Such wicked ingratitude......

by Anonymousreply 400a day ago

I’ll be curious to see their response to his complaint. It’s really hard for a renter to say I own the building.

by Anonymousreply 401a day ago

What crust!

"Weinick also noted that Talley had posted a statement about the GoFundMe page on his Instagram. Beneath a black-and-white photo of a relaxed-looking Talley seated in a tuxedo, he posted thanks for the “outpouring of love and concern. I am healthy in mind and spirit and am quite grateful for the many messages from dear friends and extended community.”

After plugging his memoir “The Chiffon Trenches” to his 319,000 followers, Talley wrote, “The matter we are dealing with is unfortunate, but will be handled by my very capable legal team at this time.”

Talley also told Smith, the people who put up the GoFundMe and those who have contributed, “I appreciate the thoughtful gesture and generosity, but it is completely unnecessary.” The image had 20,939 likes as of Wednesday night."

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by Anonymousreply 402a day ago

I think he is lying that they ever said he would own the house.

by Anonymousreply 403a day ago

He must have some money...he sold a bunch of his books, maybe not many, but I'm sure he received several hundred thousand dollars for that. It was on the NYT Bestsellers list, and it wasn't a vanity press.

by Anonymousreply 404a day ago

Yes! He should have made some money from his tell-all (about Anna Wintour, at least) book. What the hell?

by Anonymousreply 405a day ago

r403, why would he lie? that makes no sense. What would he have to gain?

by Anonymousreply 406a day ago

Buy another one you rich motherfucker

by Anonymousreply 407a day ago

Someone must have gotten in his ear about what a bad--and at the snail pace of the dough coming in, EMBARRASSING--look this is because....

Updates (1) TODAY by Akeem Smith, Organizer Hi Donors,

Thank you soo much for working so swiftly on spreading the word, donating your time and money. I spoke to Andre's manager and we have concluded the best thing to do right now is return the donated funds.

So right now I'm in the process of getting the funds donated. The link still has to be up, until the refund process is complete. So please don't donate anymore funds.

Please be safe during this pandemic and your well wishes have not gone unnoticed

Love & Respect, Akeem

by Anonymousreply 408a day ago

Money from GFM is taxable, and if he's on Social Security, showing that much income will reduce whatever amount he's getting. And if he's in trouble with the IRS, they're going to snatch the cash before he can get his plump little fingers around it, AND tax the income.

by Anonymousreply 409a day ago

R408

Just goes to show no good deed goes unpunished. Madame Talley has said "how kind, but no thank you" which put Akeem Smith in a tight spot. What do you say to people after a well meaning effort is publicly dismissed by intended recipient of said charity?

Mr. Smith just got his fingers burned, but all in all had a very lucky escape.

by Anonymousreply 410a day ago

I thought he was besties with Tina Turner, maybe she has a guest room in Zurich.

by Anonymousreply 411a day ago

Yes, but why would he have started a GFE me for someone for that amount of money, and for that reason, without talking with the person first? Maybe wannabe artist tried to jump on the coat tails of wannabee fashion whatever.

by Anonymousreply 412a day ago

GFM...sorry can't type.

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