Gay Twink Dies At Chemsex Party

Any nude pics of the deceased?

Oh, the humanity!

BDF...sadface...

I cant judge him. This is no different than me being whacked out of my head on cocaine and going to the Tubs and falling off in the orgy room . Its a miracle my dumb ass didnt die a 100 times over .

Has Spider-Man released a statement?

Why no link?

At first I thought this happened during lockdown but it was from 2018.

This is why the blanket term "LGBT" has become redundant.

Lesbians are not having chemsex parties

Trans women and non binary people are not having chemsex parties.

Gay men are having chemsex parties and neglecting each other's sex.

[quote]Gay men are having chemsex parties and neglecting each other's sex.

Ooops that should be neglecting each other's health.

Twink? To me, he looks more of a dweeb or nerd as an identifier. The Spiderman clipart sure doesn't help to distract from his nerd appeal.

R7 MTF transvestites and non binary men certainly ARE having chemsex parties.

Straights are having chemsex parties too.

However, trannies and non binary fug women should be ejected from association with gay men, lesbians and true bisexuals. Ejected straight into the Marianas Trench.

Lesbians have pretty wild parties, too. Michfest's famous nutloaf was laced with PCP frosting.

How careless of him. Unbelivable. 𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼 𝓑.

After watching It's A Sin I re-watched Queer As Folk, the British version from 1999.

One of Vince's friends goes home with a dodgy bloke and they do drugs, the guy collapses and the dodgy bloke does a runner, leaving him there for days until the body is found.

At the guy's funeral the mother asks Vince "Would have a woman have just left him there?"

And this guy was only 18 when he died.

[quote] within the LGBT community GHB is known as one of the three key drugs used in chemsex,

This is specious. Straights have the same chemsex parties. It’s not necessarily a “gay thing.”

R7 Trannies aren’t having sex because lets face it, who wants to fuck a tranny.

[quote] He came down from London, stayed in Brighton with friends, went to a party that evening. We know he was trying to get more drugs. In the early hours — we’ve got his text messages — he was finally given some extra stuff, then went off to [another] party and we’re back to the chemsex scene, because he hooked into that.

OK, so you knew he had a problem.

[quote]Graham pauses, trying to find the right words. “I do know that there are other types of party,” he says, where in chemsex settings young men “might get abused, passed around.

Nobody gets passed around who doesn’t want to be. Don’t make out like the other participants raped him.

[quote]I hope to god Paddy wasn’t in that state. It’s a constant worry to me.”

You’re beating yourself up over something with which you have no control. He died doing something he loved.

[quote]He says Paddy was selling drugs to fund his habit.

And got fucked up on his own supply. That happens.

It's from The Independent so I can't link, but in 2015 they ran an article called "Thanks, straight people, but I don't need your concern about my chemsex and chillout lifestyle"

Have you seen his Instagram page? Every other picture was him drinking and/or doing drugs. Of course this twink was going to meet a bad end. Anyone who was following his social media could see it.

He looks like a guy I had a mad crush on.

And as usual the sad and pathetic anti trans trolls try to derail a thread that has nothing to do with trans. Like that will endear them to anyone.

It’s not a waste. It’s nature’s way of culling the weak, the stupid and the diseased. Darwinism at work.

I hope that many guys used to his hole before he went tits up.

[quote]This is why the blanket term "LGBT" has become redundant.

I don't think "redundant" is what you meant. Look it up.

Darwin wins again.

Not hawt, so not a waste.

As usual, the homophobes don’t think gay people should be able to have anything for ourselves, including sex based rights.

Does anyone here know any guys into the chemsex scene and do you and your other friends have bets on when and how they'll die?

r28, the thing is either you are into chemsex or you are not. Guys into chemsex don't socialize with those who judge them for being into chemsex parties.

Silly r28....99.50% guys into chemsex survive and thrive. It’s only that .50% that get news articles written about them.

You must be at least 75 years old.

He’s right you know.

R19 he looks like a fun guy to party with. But unfortunately, he probably did fulfill the role of pass around party bottom.

Why is that unfortunate?

If that’s what he wanted for himself, I’m ok with that.

It’s like someone who’s a sub. That’s their choice.

R29 Everyone judges methed out sluts probably even other methed out sluts

Lol ^

sad

Is this a UK thing?

Damn kids..

[quote]Graham pauses, trying to find the right words. “I do know that there are other types of party,” he says, where in chemsex settings young men “might get abused, passed around.

A true Pass-Around Paddy!

He died doing what he loved

Do you think stories like these are a red flag warning to the newly minted young gaylings OR an intro to 'wow, I'm clearly missing out on some wild good shit' and they jump right into it?

Life is shit as my Italian Uncle used to say. Maybe this kid took a clever short cut.

I remember my friends in Brighton telling me about this story. There's loads of drugs on the Brighton scene. It goes back years. I know, because I lived there for 15 years.

[quote] Michfest's famous nutloaf was laced with PCP frosting.

LIAR!!

The PCP frosting was optional.

How many guys fucked him before he died?

What, that night?

27 1/2.

It would’ve been 28, but, well, I mean, you know.

Ahh, chem sex parties. Brings back great memories from about 20 years ago.

[quote]What a waste

Mmm, not so much.

Next to dad

Going to play devil's advocate. I have overdosed on GHB - taken accidentally 10 times as much as i should have. I was out, unconscious, I was snoring like thunder. My partner tried to wake me and could not. He panicked and called 911- they took me to the ICU. I woke up the next day, intubated, on every monitor known to man.

I did not die, my life was not at risk, and trust me when I tell you I took more than this kid could have. He died of something but not GHB. They are only blaming GHB because he took it. I still take GHB nightly to sleep - you only have to take too much once to know what you can take.

R50 He had a drug habit- meth, ketamine and others found in his system.

Ironically he was a biochemistry student.

yep it says right in the article his father had them test for GHB other it would have been ruled Xanax. - You can test anyone for GHB and find it - it is in all of us. It is a naturally occurring carbohydrate. He was on benzos and took a CNS....and probably drinking which is a CNS...no wonder he died.

I know a guy who tried to commit suicide by drinking a whole bottle of GHB. He survived.

As I understand, sometimes minor overdoes are enough to kill, and sometimes one can overdose by a lot and while it’ll make you very ill it won’t kill you. And nobody knows exactly why, other than luck.

Sadly another parent that's going to go on a crusade to restrict something, even though it was several drugs, and the kid had problems. Reminds me of a dad that went on a crusade against opioid pain meds because his kid shot himself. No one asked why they had an accessible gun laying around in their home, or with this kid, no one will ask why parents weren't more concerned he was selling these drugs (who knows, could've been the dealer that killed other parent's children.)

I'm really not trying to be mean, it's just exhausting when that happens. I know the parents mean well and it makes them feel the death wasn't wasted, but usually it has unintended consequences. I question motive of testing him for that in particular, when xanax and alcohol mixed kills people all the damn time. It doesn't need help with that.

It’s possible that he threw up and choked on his own vomit.

I thought GHB breaks down into natural parts of your body chemistry so can’t be tested in the body

r59 no you can test for it - but it does no good because the presence of GHB is in everyone. Real GHB goes right to the stomach, most people take GBL the precursor which is processed in the liver - hence why it is not safe to drink and take it because the liver has too much to process.

Is that what qualifies as a twink nowadays?

He looks like he's pushing 30.

Well looked like. Rip

This story made me really sad. Mainly because I know it could have been me at that age. I “played” with drugs and was excessively decadent. Reading more about his backstory made it seem so relatable - father had depression problems while the kids were growing up, he was bullied as an effeminate gay kid, started drinking and smoking pot young. He would have figured it out - smart and with a parental safety net. But will never have the chance.

Made interesting news because the father was willing to be very open and direct - probably because he is a doctor but also because he dealt with his own mental health issues. I can only imagine the twin brothers. There is a video of the identical one giving a school lecture - looks just like Paddy. Strangely, a very harsh - not very posh - accent. Not sure what Eastbourne is like - but maybe not as upper middle class as it’s made out to be.

He was only 21. Brits/Irish age fast.

You never hear about people using GHB to commit suicide... but you hear about an awful lot of people dying from it.

Sorry - GHB is up there with heroin in the “don’t ever try” category. With heroin it’s addiction, with GHB it’s mistaken OD. Meth I kinda get - GHB seems just stupid. All those drugs are a tragedy before 21.

Meh, no sympathy for the daft cunt. Feel sorry for the parents though

R61, yeah, but if you're looking for a way to end it all, seems like GHB is easier to get than heroin or anything else, and not a bad way to go. Just sorta pass out and die.

There is so much pain in this world. And most of it is self-inflicted. And then people have nothing better to do than to self-medicate and use alcohol and / or drugs to manage their own self-inflicted pain.

R58 Eastbourne = God's Waiting Room

Poorer relation to Brighton. Nice, but definitely not as lively as Brighton. More genteel.

I've taken tonnes of GHB in my time, in Brighton too. The one rule I was always taught with it, was never to drink Alcohol with it. Always to measure out your dose carefully. Often, measure out many doses for yourself first, so that you can actually see the measurement on the syringe.

Sex parties in Brighton are two a penny. On any weekend night, you'll find many going on and people on Grindr advertising for new attendees. I have been to many and never have I exceeded a sensible level or have I seen other people get totally out of it. In fact, you're somewhat safer with a group of people, because if something does go wrong, then you have many more people to look after you.

Something else was at play to cause this young man's death.

Never heard of it.

A few years ago there was a porn star who said that was raped at a chillout party/drug fuelled orgy, which garnered a lot of sympathy and then became HIV positive after another chillout session/drug fuelled orgy.

One whore I know in London sent me a text on Christmas Day to ask me if I knew what pins meant. He was by himself for Christmas for the first time rather than travelling back to his family, and had been chatting to a guy about going to a sex party that evening, and the guy arranging it asked if he could bring pins with him. He clarified it meant needles, and the guy hosting the party offered to pay his taxi fare if he could get needles on the way. He stayed home that night.

I really don't get the whole injection/slamming thing. Sounds no fun at all. I know meth use has been discussed sensitively elsewhere, but it's just not for me.

Chemsex has gotten more hardcore over the years. It started out by going to a guy's who had a few mates around smoking a few joints. Then we had ecstasy and coke. Ketamine and Mkat has come and gone. GHB is cheap an available, but on the wane. Nowadays it seems to be Chrystal meth is king of the party scene.

No thank you. Not for me.

[QUOTE] No thank you. Not for me.

More for us then

Fill your boots R69 haha

I can't help but wonder whether Jozsef Szajer, the Polish lawmaker that wrote in the Polish Constitution that marriage was only between man and woman was at that party: you know he loves them all over Europe.

[quote] A few years ago there was a porn star who said that was raped at a chillout party/drug fuelled orgy, which garnered a lot of sympathy and then became HIV positive after another chillout session/drug fuelled orgy.

So he was “raped” at one, yet went back to another.

Forever grateful my chemsex parties were fueled by Guinness.

It is neraly impossible to die from GHB - Your body will force it out by puking which , there is a chance if you are unconscious you can choke on it. But no one swallows a bottle and dies. Every time you see a case like this - it is a combinaton of drugs. Read the article the kid was on benzos - mix Xanax with alcohol and you can die, let alone GHB which is pretty much just like alcohol. a CNS>

[quote] Forever grateful my chemsex parties were fueled by Guinness.

Boy, those must have been pretty boring with just books to read.

GBL is the most disgusting stuff to drink. To this day, I cannot drink Cherry Cola without thinking GBL because there's something reminiscent of it in the flavor. GHB on the other hand just tastes salty and is easy to consume and unfortunately to hide in a high octane drink. I Oded so many times on GBL because even if it's a prodrug of GHB, it is taken up much faster by the stomach and it's hard to control. Opposite to alcohol the therapeutic range is very close to the did-too-much range. It really is a nasty drug but on the plus side you get bored quickly. Cocaine on the other hand, it's like my brain got rewired to never forget it the second it hit my synapses.

I used to mix my GBL with blackcurrant cordial.

To this day I can't drink Ribena.

Sad proof that often there's no saving a junkie because they'll always choose the drug(s) in the end, especially in the gay community because the drugs are harder and are far more addictive.

I don't think that the lad was a junkie.

I just think he was unfortunate. The other party goers wouldn't have known if he was on prescription medication.

It was just bad luck.

He was a junkie of some kind R79, or he wouldn't have slipped deeper and deeper into that scene.

We haven't established that he was an habitual orgy goer yet R80

It could have been his first time.

Bad luck. What a party pooper that must have been.

The article says he was into the scene R82, not a first timer.

Tragic to die at age 21. Like many others I'm sure he did not know how lethal the drug he was using could be. I learned as far back in high school not to partake in recreational drugs. Over the years several friends and acquaintances have overdosed from drugs.

Sad mistake. So many have come close but survived - then straightened out by late 20s.

Odd that Eastbourne is seen as less “nice” than Brighton. I thought Brighton was kinda trashy. I find it odd how it is a “hot spot” and so expensive. Must be a British “seaside” thing - their beach towns are generally ugly.

Somebody PLEASE bring back the magnificent Quaalude. Effective and safe.

Good fucking riddance. seriously. This is why they hate us. Fucking worthless trash.

R87 faux morality makes him feel the tiniest bit better than this dead guy, for a short while, until he realizes that his life is a piece oh shit.

Morality is what powerless people, who have no options or agency, rely on to delude themselves and to survive another day.

R85 It's sheer size too. Brighton is much bigger. Has the Royal Pavilion and a direct and quicker link to London, making it ideal for visitors from the capital. The Lines are charming as is the Georgian architecture along the front. It has a Bohemian feel, given the alternative lifestyle, due to the relaxed nature of the place and it's two universities.

Isn’t Brighton basically the Miami Beach of GB? The southernmost Gay party point in the country.

Well, this explains why the other chemsex thread from 2017 was bumped.

R79, did you even read what his own father said about him?

It's sad and unfortunate that people need drugs to allow themselves to have their idea of fun. I mean, If I want to get gang banged I would rather be aware and enjoy every minute than be on the verge of passing out in a dizzy state of mind.

His father's comments were reasonable, caring, informed and heartbreaking.

The young man was such a mess.

R90 That sounds too glamorous, but we'll take that.

I'd of said it's our much smaller equivalent of San Fran.

[quote] I'd of said

Oh fucking dear!

You missed a comma R96, dear.

As did you, r97, dear.

Dueling elder gay grammar trolls ^

This is the definition of tedium

Stupid is often fatal.

Why would someone want to live in Brighton? Is it gay retirees? Is it just a weekend place from the city? Strikes me as similar to Asbury Park, NJ - old, not particularly nice, beach town that was semi-gentrified by gays. But not a place that appeals at all as a a place to live. If you’re stuck in that area, it’s where you would go to a gay club I guess.

It's probably sad old fags providing the drugs R101 so the location fits.

R101 Brighton has two universities and the largest Pride celebrations outside of London. It's hip, swinging and trendy. Great beach, nice gay bars and mix of ages.

I'll never understand the appeal of Brighton beach...just a pile of rocks that are uncomfortable to sit on. The town is ugly.

Brighton and Hove is a beautiful city. Architecturally, it's Georgian facades are among the most important in the world. The Royal Pavilion is globally iconic.

The city is beautiful. It's citizens are a hotchpotch of respectable city workers commuting by day, Bohemian artisans and university scholars.

I miss living there like hell and would move back at the drop of a hat.

Wtf trends

[quote]Nobody gets passed around who doesn’t want to be. Don’t make out like the other participants raped him.

You're a gem.

If there's no consent, it's rape.

Common sense 101

You’re right, r107, in that if there’s no consent, it is rape.

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I wrote. You think him being a pass around bottom is equal to rape? Why would you assume he didn’t give consent? Do you think the guys fucked him after he died or something?

Gem, indeed, except it’s you.

People get high and have sex. They just gotta be careful.

They rarely are R109 and why would anyone want to date a junkie even a "careful" one?

You need to loosen some of those stays on your corset R110. None of us are perfect.

I'd much prefer to date a careful junkie to a reckless one.

Really R111, I need to loosen up my corset because I don't want to date a JUNKIE?! I agree none of us are perfect, but I'm pretty sure most of us can enjoy sex without being blasted to the point of brainlessness and have no desire to date someone who does.

[quote] I'm pretty sure most of us can enjoy sex without being blasted to the point of brainlessness

Well....

Even if you're indifferent to whether other individual is "under the influence", you don't really know where his dick has been or what has been in his ass. Don't think personal hygiene is a priority in his state.

He was from England. Do they call them states there?

[quote] This is why the blanket term "LGBT" has become redundant.

Lesbians are not having chemsex parties Trans women and non binary people are not having chemsex parties. Gay men are having chemsex parties and neglecting each other's health

Many of us would be more than happy to longer be associated with trans. Feel free to go your own way

[quote] And as usual the sad and pathetic anti trans trolls try to derail a thread that has nothing to do with trans. Like that will endear them to anyone.

Reread the thread. R7 started attacking gay men, telling us how exalted trannies and NB are, which is a laugh.

[quote] Nobody gets passed around who doesn’t want to be. Don’t make out like the other participants raped him.

I agree. No one’s blocking the door. If he was a pass-around bottom, it’s because that’s what he wanted, for whatever reason. I feel for his parents. It can’t be easy, facing uncomfortable truths about your adult child, but he made his choices.

[quote] I learned as far back in high school not to partake in recreational drugs.

Drugs are great; amusement parks for adults, but you have to treat them wi the respect for the power they possess, and know what not to mix with what. GHB is a killer with alcohol or other downers; I wish someone had taught him that.

[quote] Chemsex has gotten more hardcore over the years. It started out by going to a guy's who had a few mates around smoking a few joints. Then we had ecstasy and coke. Ketamine and Mkat has come and gone. GHB is cheap an available, but on the wane. Nowadays it seems to be Chrystal meth is king of the party scene.

Which is why i stick with ecstasy. It’s a relatively safe, forgiving drug, in that overdose is unlikely and it can be safely mixed with many other drugs.

Crystal Meth is absolute poison, and I hope anyone reading stays far, far from it. It devastated NYC’s club scene for a time some years back.

I've not seen Ecstasy for ages. Used to love doing Es and fucking on them. It's all Tina parties nowadays in the UK. Particularly in Brighton. Mkat seems to have come and gone. ODing on GHB has been a problem for years. Kids mixing it with alcohol consumption.

This should have been titled "A Cautionary Tale: Junkie Dies of Overdose!"

It has nothing to do with him being a twink or gay or chemsex or even a "party."

He was just another drug addict who's addiction got the best of him.

Daddy feels guilty for not getting his son help and not doing more to get his son to stop sucking cock for drugs. There was no pass around. His son was not a victim. Daddy knows exactly what happened.

Ass is not like pussy. It's hard to fuck a man if he is not alert and "cooperating." Also if he's wasted he'd probably shit himself and nobody wants that!

Everything that happened was this junkie's fault and his alone. It was inevitable.

I don't understand the whole desire for chemsex. If you can't have a good time straight up sober then maybe you shouldn't be doing GHB.

Those filthy sluts don't deserve to die that way.

[quote] I don't understand the whole desire for chemsex. If you can't have a good time straight up sober then maybe you shouldn't be doing GHB.

Six in ecstasy is amazing. All feeling is heightened. The only downside: I have trouble ejaculating. .

R121 That is a pretty big downside. Anything fucking up the pee pee can't be a good thing.

Agree on X/molly "elevating" 1:1 sex. However, it can be abused as a predatory drug as well (obviously, especially w/meth). I thought I had read a few years back about someone accusing the perpetrator of inserting tabs into him without his knowing, to lower inhibitions, and so that top could invite others to gang bang alleged sexual assault victim.

R123 You are correct, the GHB can act as a Roofie, but I think what many people here are saying is that nobody believes he was sexually assaulted.

Reading between the lines in the article, he was addicted to drugs and going to these parties without money to pay for them. He tried selling drugs, but as an addict he was getting high off his own supply. He had no way to pay his suppliers. His father pretty much admits that his son was sucking cock to pay for his drug habit. That's not exactly rape.