Man Recounts Getting Raped After Overdose At Chemsex Party

When will Theresa May deport him back to Poland?

Rape is never acceptable, of course, but we shouldn't be normalizing chemsex parties!

What. The. Fuck. I'd never suggest that anyone deserves to be assaulted, but some people are really fucking stupid.

“He knew I was negative, and that everyone else was positive,” Gray recounts. “He said: ‘Don’t let anyone here f*ck you’.”

After passing out from what he believes was an overdose of ‘G’ or ketamine, Gray woke up to find three men taking turns having bareback sex with him. A fourth was in the room watching, and crying.

Gray says the men were “very inconsiderate” as they handled him, leaving him “bleeding from both ends” and with a sore throat. At one point, he got sick. They dragged him into the shower, where one man proceeded to urinate in his mouth.

No, not Kayden, he's so sweet!

Although that couldn't have been the party where he got HIV because he said that particular one was great in his other video where he opened up about being positive.

I'm not so foolish as to think that PnP sex is going away anytime soon, but what do you expect? Tea and biscuits and polite conversation?!

I can't believe people are so fucking stupid as to go to wild sex parties fueled by crack and meth and expect everyone to be gentle and "considerate" and health minded. That's like going to a prison and expecting it to be an all-inclusive resort. Is he intellectually disabled?

R3 That part was the worst. Did they think he was enjoying all of it and was just momentarily passed out due to ecstasy?

But it is tricky in a way. How can you possibly ensure someone's consent lasts for the duration of the sex party when that person willingly uses drugs? However, fucking an unconscious person is never okay; that much should be obvious to anyone.

I agree R7 Its YOUR responsibility not to make yourself a victim, and its EVERYONE'S responsibility not to be a victimizer.

My first boyfriend died from chemsex. He told me to take my finger out of his ass. But it wasn't my finger. It was my fist *sob*

Oh Jesus wept!

I'm an adult male prostitute, who went to a group 'sex party' where I knew there would be lots and lots of drugs - which I happily took. Then I profess shock and dismay that people had sex with me...

Oh - and I'm 'clean' (negative) - whereas all the others were evil, dirty, poz guys...

Can I please have my moment of fame and symaprthy and whatever compensation I can?

And do you think these pics are flattering? Will they get me some new clients? Can I use them on my rentboy profie?

The whole thing is so wrong on so many levels. Just a mess.

I have never taken drugs like this and so I guess I know nothing about the culture, but that said, this story is ***exactly*** how I have always imagined all cracked out gay sex parties to go down.

My bf really did die from this...he got hooked on drugs from it, and eventually got HIV and suicidal. He died from HIV complications.

[quote]Gray went to party knowing he was going to do drugs and have sex. Before showing up, his friend warned him to be careful.

He went there with the full intention to get high and have sex. The problem was that the other party members took advantage of him while, most likely, high on drugs themselves. I don't think when you are high on drugs you still stay true to some sort of rules or honor code set up by the host or party's organizer (if that sort of thing exists on chemsex parties which I presume are very private and due to the drug use very likely illegal).

Does chemsex have anything to do with chemtrails? Or does it have to do with test tubes, Bunson burners and white coats?

Well you are flying high R14

Sex on meth is a gift from demons.

Paging Olivia Benson....(oh wait, the vic isn't appealing to the SJWs, so she doesn't care).

I know someone who used to work for Queerty, and his descriptions of the staff explain why this rag reported this story as a surprising and unexpected assault. No one deserves to be raped, period. At the same time, a person should't traipse into a viper den with dead rats hanging from his naked body.

Chemsex parties, aren't those the Dancing With the Stars bottom of the barell level of casual hook-ups?

How do some gay men get to the point of just annihilating themselves as whores and junkies?....obviously HIV is the result. It saddens me. They must have lots of issues and death of course is the final destination....usually before they hit 50. Why? Are they just messed up people who don't care anymore?

It took me a while until I noticed that the link led to a Queerty article. I haven't visited Queerty in ages and didn't recognize the layout.

I suspect because dating and intimacy is so difficult in modern society.

This is nothing new. I knew a guy back in the 1990s who would go to sex parties (not drug oriented parties). He was a top and would wear leather hot pants with a codpiece so his ass was not available. However, he would get blind drunk and pass out. He would wake up later with his pants around his ankles getting fucked. He never quite got the fact that if he didn't get blind drunk, he wouldn't be in that position- literally in that position.

What I don’t understand are the raw loads bottoms that are on PReP.

How can they possibly be medication compliant if they’re away from home for days at a stretch, passing out at sex parties?

I think they’re all full of shit.

[quote]I think they’re all full of shit.

Among other things.

[quote]Gray says the men were “very inconsiderate” as they handled him, leaving him “bleeding from both ends” and with a sore throat. At one point, he got sick. They dragged him into the shower, where one man proceeded to urinate in his mouth.

How inconsiderate!

I watched the video and it appears he is just telling a story as sort of a warning. His narrative states what happened is sick (the way he was treated) but now that he is sober he knows it was sick. It seems he is telling his story so that there's can make better choices.

With a chemical load like he had you would have no inhibitions...alcohol by itself will rid inhibitions add in chemicals and your inhibitions would be stripped away...let the good times roll. He is giving a warning to others, not asking for the guys to be charged or apprehended. An ethics issue is of course involved but one could argue if anyone can be blamed due to the drugs and that being there at all was a consent implied.

He says the men who raped him were "very inconsiderate"? What was he expecting them to tidy up the room and leave a thank you note?

Lol, that surprised me too. "Inconsiderate" is not the word I'd have used if I was violently raped from both sides and pissed on.

He's so polite. He must be Canadian.

The worst part was when he wiped his dick on the drapes! My aunt made those drapes!!

I don't remember the name of the episode but this is literally (and I mean word for word almost) the plot of a QAF (American) episode with Ted. Either this is scary common or he is making this shit up.

[quote]I am being vilified by feminists for merely having a common-sense attitude about rape. I loathe this thing about date rape. Have twelve tequilas at a fraternity party and a guy asks you to go up to his room, and then you're surprised when he assaults you? Most women want to be seduced or lured. The more you study literature and art, the more you see it. Listen to Don Giovanni. Read The Faerie Queene. Pursuit and seduction are the essence of sexuality. It’s part of the sizzle. Girls hurl themselves at guitarists, right down to the lowest bar band here. The guys are strutting. If you live in rock and roll, as I do, you see the reality of sex, of male lust and women being aroused by male lust. It attracts women. It doesn't repel them. Women have the right to freely choose and to say yes or no. Everyone should be personally responsible for what happens in life.

That quote is from Camille Paglia, who was ripped to shreds for it. But she has a basic point. When you're an adult, and you go out into the world of sex, you have to be your own best friend, to look out for yourself and your best interests. You don't put yourself in the hands of strangers, unless you can face the consequences. I'm honestly sorry he's had this experience, but I don't think it's all that rare. I put myself in harm's way, a couple of times, when I was younger (alcohol, not drugs) and learned my lesson pretty quickly. Thankfully, no rape (although an attempted rape, and I wasn't drunk that time).

If he's admitting to take illegal drugs I hope the police pay him a visit.

Grown adults who have such non-existent notions of risk assessment that they would use unregulated street drugs are pitiable.

Here we have KAYDEN, who is a PROSTITUTE who loves DRUGS, all butt hurt that he had a shitty violent experience with a bunch of other out-of-their-minds gays while high on an alphabet soup of drugs he took from strangers while naked, and now might have sero-converted.

Kayden dear, this is why people tell you not to do drugs. They really aren't "judgmental", or "sex negative", they just didn't want you to get raped, sero-convert, or die. Get it now?

R35 I don't think he has specified where this sex party took place so the police have nothing to act on.

R31 I always thought he was from Montreal. The accent kinda fits, doesn't it?

Nice touch: the sympathy background music.

R18: Yes, Queerty does have a strange history of presenting men who make horrible choices and who have little self control as "victims" deserving of sympathy and support.

The sad thing about this story is what little regard some POZ guys have for others. Why would you have bareback sex with someone, when you have HIV, and the person can't consent to having baresex with you. I personally think this is a violation worse than rape. I'm friends with several POZ guys who don't disclose their status. It makes zero sense to me.

R40 They are all on meth. Meth literally burns holes in the brain. What I can't fathom is why anyone takes meth in the first place, or how a gay subculture grew around it. Honestly, methamphetamine use today for most people would be far more life altering and threatening than contracting HIV. These people are extraordinarily unwise and self-destructive.

Assuming this is true, which isn't a given by a long shot, it could very easily be a case of blacking out rather than passing out, considering the amount of drugs he was using as well as the type.

morning after regret =/= retroactive rape

It's like running with the bulls in Pamplona. Or, the thrill of riding a Harley with the wind in your hair.

If he was explicitly told that everyone was HIV-positive, he entered seeking a combination of adrenaline and self-destruction.

And by the way, at drug-fueled parties, EVERYONE is under the influence and has a potential alibi. Guys get wasted and do all kinds of things with their dicks. Straight guys have been known to wake up next to women they don't remember thinking "who is she?"

Side note: Where is the outrage that he is now HIV positive and continuing to travel the world as a prostitute? Even in the most liberal countries there are restrictions for prostitutes with STDs.

He has diseased whore face. I'm not buying this story.

Sounds like manic behavior.

Just re-watched the video. I missed the on-screen text where it said he took PEP (post-exposure) within 24 hours after the party and tested negative.

So, he didn't sero-convert at the party, and he also didn't learn his lesson. He continued to get fucked bareback until he ultimately, surprise surprise, became HIV positive.

What a fucking dumbass.

The whole thing is fucking weird. Did anyone notice the camera lingered on his crotch when he was describing being raped? Did anyone notice the bizarre reenactment at the beginning of the video? Queerty is fucked up.

Where has the honor gone these days among drug addled whores???

[quote]Meth literally burns holes in the brain.

Sorry, but that's patent nonsense.

R50 ...

But they were all undetectable, right?

Gurl... Just dont go on the View and talk about it.

People are weird and irrational creatures.

Does chemsex have anything to do with chemtrails?

well both have white stuff spewing out the rear

Good catch R46.

Im not trying to be an asshole but what did he think was going to happen? A bunch of horny junkies and a passed out youngin. Gurl bye.

Dumb sluts do dumb things, big surprise!

What I find a bit frustrating is that while it's a warning tale for others out there that in the year 2017 we still need cautionary tales like this one to learn that you shouldn't take drugs and / or take drugs while being around strangers who very well might take advantage of your current drugged or intoxicated state.

What's next, people having to re-learn that plates on a turned on kitchen stove are hot? Water is wet? You get electrocuted when licking a socket or when you are sticking a knitting needle into the socket? How about don't drink and drive?

To quote Nancy Reagan: Just Say No.

Have some self respect and be more selective about who you hang around with and who you have sex with. And stay safe. You're most definitely worth it.

So wait ... All that drama and he didn't even get infected at the party?

I recently heard a saying ... "Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes."

He's still doing porn and escorting. And the moral of the story is ... ?

What an ill-conceived article.

R60 I think the moral of the story is.... "Everything in moderation."

R61 I don't know, I think doing illegal drugs and having bareback sex with strangers even in "moderation" isn't going to end well.

Getting fucked up out of your mind in a situation where everyone else is fucked out of their minds then holding everyone else responsible DESPITE their impairment but absolving yourself BECAUSE of yours is the height of third wave feminist victim narratives...and I was wondering when I would start hearing gay men use it. Such bullshit.

When and where is the next party?

How can one 'rape' the willing?!

The reality is that no one would ever be convicted of raping this guy. The victim is almost always put on trial and given the raunchy circumstances, there's no way that they'd convince a jury to convict unless they could draw on a broader moral repugnance where the what is on trial is the sex party itself, not rape.

But it does pose an interesting legal question.

If you go somewhere explicitly to do drugs and have sex, haven't you given consent. Yes, by most definitions he was too messed up to give consent, but wasn't that the express purpose of the event - to take drugs, get messed up, and have sex? EVERYONE there was taking drugs and having sex. How could it even be remotely possible to determine rape.

[quote] the height of third wave feminist victim narratives...and I was wondering when I would start hearing gay men use it

If you read the comments, it's just more and more nonsense about "slut shaming" and "blaming the victim."

Yes, R66, the legal argument falls apart when you determine that everyone was too inebriated to either consent or be held accountable. Also, consider that all of this depravity is something the Kayden had done before the encounter, and continued to after. Even the piss play.

Why don't we take care of each other? A man is strung out on meth and passed out and that's an invitation to fuck him? What pleasure do you get from fucking a comatose guy? It's like we're wolves. There is plenty of awake and willing hole to fuck, you don't need to jump on some passed out dude for sex.

[quote]He would wake up later with his pants around his ankles getting fucked. He never quite got the fact that if he didn't get blind drunk, he wouldn't be in that position- literally in that position.

Somehow I suspect he got that fact really, really well.

[quote] A man is strung out on meth and passed out and that's an invitation to fuck him?

Yes. Yes it is.

In the twisted subculture of PnP, it's an open invitation. Men get naked, get high, and get fucked. They seek out these parties specifically for this experience.

The morning after, you can't look back on it like he was some unsuspecting co-ed who had her drink spiked.

I [italic]kinda[/italic] get the appeal of being used like a drugged out cum rag at a chemsex party, but it can't be fun waking up from on overdose, bleeding from both ends. That has to come as a shock to any normal person.

Btw, didn't Kayden make a piss play video with Damian Crosse?

It's all very extreme, but that's his scene.

What is the weepy (yet dry-eyed) performance all about?

Everyone at the party was there to take the same drugs. It could not have been long before NO ONE at the party had the capacity to make a proper informed decision. EVERYONE was operating with extremely diminished inhibition and cognitive capacity. When you participate in an event of that nature, you consent to whatever happens. All the normal controls go out the window in such circumstances. Which is why you went there in the first place.

He has a nice big uncut cock. I wouldn't mind being topped by him non-stop. No drugs. Maybe some poppers.

[quote]A man is strung out on meth and passed out and that's an invitation to fuck him?

[quote]Yes. Yes it is.

[quote]In the twisted subculture of PnP, it's an open invitation. Men get naked, get high, and get fucked. They seek out these parties specifically for this experience.

If he were out at a bar having a good time, then I'd say no, it's not an invitation to fuck him. If you're at a sex party where everyone is doing drugs and having sex, then it may not be an invitation, but it is an inevitable and foreseeable outcome - irrespective of the morality of it.

Kayden Gray spoke about this in MUCH vaguer terms a few months ago when he revealed his HIV+ status.

This is gruesomely graphic and horrible, what he recounts now. I wonder why he is coming back to the media now with the new and graphic details?

This story happened to my ex-boyfriend, in a sauna. He OD'd on chems and woke up getting fucked with multiple loads. And yes, got HIV.

Out of compassion, I never questioned the story. I think the story happens. Rape happened. Sloppy chem sex that ranges in and out of rape and in and out of conciseness about what the fuck is going on happens.

I have heard this story a dozen times now as peoples "seroconversion" story and its sad, and horrible.

I warned my bf many times he started to show signs of getting sloppy but he couldn't control the longing to get his chemsex fix.

He was about this guy Kayden's age, when it happened.

They become VERY experienced with party drugs, and VERY experienced with wonton sex, but doing sex with their friends at party is quite different than doing it at an orgy or sex club.

(As an aside, I saw a recent video of Gray and by god, he is improving with his maturity, his body is SO solid. I have always had the hots for him.)

in and out of consciousness - that should read.

People shouldn't be fucking passing out unconscious sluts.

One shady area though is that people extremely high on drugs sometimes don't remember what they did and prefer to say they were "passed out" but that is not always the case.

Seems like in his story, it was the case though.

Even though I know it's rare on DL, I really don't spend a whole lot of time judging consenting for their choices bad or otherwise. I have no issues with consenting adults wanting to get drugged up and having reckless sex. I didn't even have issues with those breeding parties back in the 90s. That's on them. But once they've passed out and you're still fucking them, that is basically gay on gay crime. I guess I just don't understand why our first instinct is to abuse and destroy and not to protect -- and yes, I know that makes me a Mary!.

[quote]They become VERY experienced with party drugs, and VERY experienced with wonton sex

What kind of drug makes you shove Chinese food up your ass?

[quote]What kind of drug makes you shove Chinese food up your ass?

You need drugs for that?

I get that this was apparently extremely rough sex. I also get that he was passed out. But WTF was he expecting? He's a prostitute. He was totally fucked up. It was a sex party. It seems to me that all of those things constitute at least some degree of implied consent.

Oh my god, the strangers at the sex-n-drugs party were rough and inconsiderate? Your drink was spiked at a party promoted as "chemsex?" My goodness, how very not even a teeny bit shocking to a normal person!

Seriously, WTF? I am normally not one to "blame the victim," but this isn't a victim. This is an idiot who went to a "chemsex" party and expected people to be kind and considerate to him.

The fact is: You don't have the legal or moral right of protection and victimhood when you put yourself in danger willingly.

When you jump into a snake pit it's very likely that you get bitten by a snake. Don't complain that you got bitten after you fully intended to jump into a snake pit. Cause and effect. Actions have consequences.

This isn't about slutshaming or sex shaming. Own your own actions. Take responsibility for them. Learn from your experiences in order to become a better, more wiser, person.

If getting fucked raw by uggos gets you the best orgasms you ever get, then just do it and be happy. Don't put on some play (I don't like it, I was raped, I don't like this!) for other people. If getting fucked raw by uggos doesn't give you the thrill you want, then don't fucking do it after you realized that it's not satisfactory.

That's why I have respect for guys like Ray Dalton, because he's unapologetic about being a raw sex pig. He doesn't go around and blames others for his own actions or outcomes.

Who keeps troving the net for articles that make gays look bad? Any why are you posting them on a gay site?

That article is from Queerty, my dear.

R84 Where better to discuss gay issues than on a gay site? Kayden's cautionary tale just might save someone from experiencing the same. And not talking about chemsex parties because it makes gays look bad would be more damaging to actual gay men who think about trying them out and aren't aware of the possible dangers associated with them.

I was on his team until I saw his job title. I’m sorry it happened to him, but you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

This absolutely deserves to be discussed on a gay site. It's a public service, not a smear.

Is it just me? He's not that good looking, his cock is strangely shaped and he's a hooker. Not an attractive package now. After all the drugs and HIV and abuse, ten years from now he will be a total mess. 10 goes quickly.

Blood in your shit happens.

At chem parties, anything goes. So these apparent rapists were just following the rules. They were likely so drugged out themselves that they didn't know what they were doing.

I'm confused as to what he's warning us about: Don't do drugs? don't go to chemsex parties? Don't pass out at these parties? Don't do this without being on PrEP? People aren't going to be considerate at these parties? Don't be a whore?

What about the "Mary" who sat in the corner crying while watching Kayden be ravaged?

Such a flair for the dramatic.

Wrong, r10, being a sex worker doesn't entitle his Johns to have sex with him, or any other behavior, let alone rape.

And most people who take drugs do not also rape.

Yeah, being a prostitute or a hustler doesn't give others permission to do with you whatever they want with you by default.

People who go to Chemsex Parties go there for a reason and are willing to take risks in order to get what they want. It's the same with barebacking. Every action we take is a deliberate choice.

Hope he doesn't get pregnant

He left out the most important detail of is he cut or uncut.

[quote]They dragged him into the shower, where one man proceeded to urinate in his mouth.

They must be in sales.

R83 = Pure evil

It wasn't a "snake pit" and even most methed-out gay people do not gang-rape the unconscious or unwilling.

You're acting like an orgy with drugs always = HIV bottoming for poz guys and it DOESN'T.

But you wouldn't know, you're a square and 62-year-old virgin.

Like most social conservatives, you don't know SHIT about the subject, but you'll fabricate what you think it is out of hate, hysteria and chauvinism.

You're a Prisspot hater, just looking to boast about your own, prudish glory.

I wonder, how much did he get paid for this ?

Also, stay off of the Pinball Machines!!

R99 = Jeff Palmer

> What pleasure do you get from fucking a comatose guy?

He wasn't necessarily comatose. He might have been awake & enthusiastically telling them to wreck his hole... then developed anteretrograde amnesia. The short-term memory of the event doesn't become a long-term memory, and gets forgotten completely the next time he falls asleep or passes out "for real". From HIS later perspective, "he blacked out", even though he might have been quite lucid during the event itself.

No stranger to piss and bottoming.

R104 Fuck, that's such a great ass. I'd instinctively zero in on it as well if I were drugged out of my mind.

From what I've seen of him in porn, he mostly tops, so it's nice to see him taking it as well now and then.

He wasn't raped. By entering a sex party and abusing drugs, he CONSENTED to allowing anyone there to do to him whatever they wanted.

It may not be PC, but if you want to control who fucks you, don't get inebriated in public. Not everyone is nice and someone may put his penis inside of you if give up your ability to think clearly and defend yourself by abusing substances.

This is why I have little sympathy for anyone who says (s)he was raped if (s)he was drinking or doing drugs. Perhaps the "abuser" was also intoxicated, in which case the "abused" should possibly be held responsible for seducing the intoxicated individual.

The article picture of him - he's so cute.

R106 I don't think he is looking for sympathy, it's more of a warning for others who think that it can't happen to them. He is a sex worker but also does something in London related to GLBT issues.

R107,

He may not be looking for sympathy, but many so-called victims are.

If it's queerty it's about making gay men look like whores, like the Advocate.

Articles about anyone but gay men : achievements, news, or whatever (for what it's worth)

Articles about gay men : Here are pictures of mostly naked gay men for you to objectify and not take seriously. Or "how I was able to clear my debt by being a raw sex pig bdsm dominator master person." Or "my life as a hooker because I'm too lazy to get a real job and even if I did it would never generate enough income to cover my drug and/or alcohol habit hence the reason that I do not do so."

I could give a fuck what some lazy hooker has to say. What about gay professionals?

What's your opinion on Towleroad, r109, with its hard-hitting newz and Buzzfeed-style headlines! [VIDEO]

Very high levels of chemsex and ‘slamsex’ seen in HIV-positive men attending English/Welsh HIV clinics:

Chemsex was associated with a threefold increase in the odds of having serodiscordant condomless sex and a 7.4-fold increase in the risk of sex with a risk of HIV transmission. Chemsex was associated with having a lot more partners – on average 30 in the last year versus 9.5 in men who did not have chemsex. Not surprisingly, there was a high rate of other sexually transmitted infections (STIs) among the gay men: STI incidence was estimated at 50% a year, i.e. half of the men would be diagnosed with an STI by the year’s end; 9.4% had ever had hepatitis C.

[quote] What about gay professionals?

Booooring.

Let's hear more about sex workers!

Related thread about him coming out as HIV positive.

Interesting R113, it seems he has nothing to lose at this point then.

He strikes me as pretty impressed with himself all the way through that interview - almost like a humble-brag - I have no pity for him.

He's a porn performer and a literal whore, it's not like he has a history of making good life choices.

The way he talks, it sounds like he’s still playing out some fetish scenario in his mind about seroconverting.

He’s a freak.

I mentioned in the thread at R113 already that he sounds kind and articulate so it does make me wonder why he went into porn in the first place. Is it just because it's an easy way to make money? What interests does he have beyond porn and prostitution and what will he do once he's too old for it? Because he's obviously not a dumb meathead.

I see on his Twitter account that he's the director of Impulse London, but their website is dead.

Sex is dirty!

[quote]It wasn't a "snake pit" and even most methed-out gay people do not gang-rape the unconscious or unwilling.

Shit happens in an unsafe enviroment. And yes, a chemsex party is an unsafe enviroment. You know what else is an unsafe enviroment? A snake pit.

I prefer to have fun and live and experience my fun while I'm not under the influence of drugs or alcohol. If that makes me a prude or a loser, then so be it. I do not judge people for taking drugs or going to chemsex parties. I judge them for whining about having to face the consequences of their own actions. Responsibility. Have some.

Having met Kayden in London recently, I can say he is a genuinely nice guy. He is putting himself out there to discuss what can happen when you partake in the chemsex lifestyle.

He knows that gay men partake and enjoy PNP and that isn't going to change. He's just trying to bring awareness of what could happen.

I never got the impression he was whining and looking for sympathy. I viewed him as being a stand-up guy who has accepted the consequences of his own actions and wants to pass along his own experience so that maybe someone may think twice about engaging in that behavior so recklessly.

r121 = Debbie Downer

[quote]Sex is dirty!

Only if you're doing it right.

r121, it's unfortunate that awareness needs to be raised about the dangers of chemsex parties. Nice gesture of Kayden though.

Doesn't "partaking in the chemsex lifestyle" mean "Being a drugged up slut?" I mean, come on. You're doing a ton of drugs and fucking strangers.

Kayden, doll, if you need a stable 50-something to shack up with and reground yourself, call.

"Kayden" never seems to know what do with his hair. Sad!

Is he from a middle class or working class polish family?

@R118: he's a hot, young guy who clearly enjoys sex. He probably makes 10x as much per hour escorting as he could possibly make in any "normal" job... and has better work hours and fewer rules. For escorts, porn is just free advertising.

Fuck, if PrEP existed when I was 25 & I could have made $2,000/week getting to sleep late & fuck a guy or two per day, there's no way in HELL I would have endured crawling out of bed at 6:30am and an hour commute for a shit job paying $50k/year for a company that laid us all off 2 years later when the economy crashed in 2002, masters degree be damned.

Certainly he's no Radziwiłl!

R129 Escorting has an expiration date, though, and doesn't come with pension or any other perks. I hope he's investing the cash he's making right now.

Kayden is a dumb whore name, male or female.

R131: yeah, with sex work, you definitely need to have an exit plan. Ideally, you'd save half the money & use it to start a more normal business once you age out of sex work in your early 40s. In Fort Lauderdale, we have literally dozens of former porn stars & escorts who now work as realtors (lots of freedom to set working hours, huge existing social networks of former clients and fans to build upon, plenty of ongoing ego-stroking). Gay men have an advantage in this regard... a 55 year old woman who was in dozens of major-studio porn videos isn't going to even TRY doing business under her porn name... a 55 year old former male porn star will get wealthy clients and enjoy years of social perks BECAUSE of his porn past.

I predict depression, further self-destructive behavior, followed by suicide within 10 years.

Sorry. This was obviously someone marching into the furnace and then complaining about being burned. Of course people taking advantage of someone unconscious are criminals, but this guy got the offensive shit into him after going to the venue. When I'm in a dicey situation - and I have been - I don't ingest anything I didn't open or bring myself. But this is not a situation anyone planning to stay healthy would attend. Just not that sort of party.

R129 I turned tricks while I was an Ivy undergrad and during grad school as well. The smart move is to severely limit it to a few clients, and find regulars. I didnt make huge dough but 1000 for a 3-day weekend was a lot more than I'd make in a month with a campus job. Then you get the fuck out of the racket and you do you career. Out before 30, at the latest.

Oh, by the way (R135 here - I know, blah blah blah), I'm a guy and I've been raped, although not in a spot like this. The experience let me know how you have to take care of yourself if you can, and certainly don't go to situations where trouble is part of the "fun."

Nothing more depressing than a whore who stays in the business too long.

R138 I'll tell you something even more depressing right now: whores jacking up rates during natural disasters.

R89. I think Kayden has a gorgeous, thick, bullet shaped cock. His cock is similar to Esteban Oribe's but Kayden is hunkier and better-looking

I guess when a cock is inside your ass, what matters most is not how it looks but how it feels.

R140 You sure know your cocks but Esteban's doesn't vary in girth as much.

He's definitely prettier than Esteban in all other regards.

[quote] “I thought chemsex was the best sex ever, and I thought that for a couple of years,” Grey says

Sympathy ZERO

This thread has made me think about this on a deeper level and now I am wondering 2 things...

1) was he paid to be at the party and to have sex? His narrative sounded like he went to a party...was he paid?

2) is he going with this interview to show the down side of chemsex parties, or to generate pity for his diagnosis, or as a warning to his brethren to avoid chemsex parties?

He is the only man who could answer these questions.

R141. Oh my goodness! Who needs a fist when you can have Esteban Oribe's massive cock.

I would respect his narrative if he had learned his lesson. He had the sense to seek PEP, but still ended up risking his life later? I'll never understand people.

R143 I'm pretty sure he got paid. Big name pornstars try to monetize their every sexual encounter.

And as has been mentioned upthread, he's the Advocacy Director at Impulse London so he's paid to... well, advocate, and share stories and such.

So he's a dumb junkie whore and something bad came of it, who could have seen that coming?

What chemicals are ingested at these so-called "Chemsex" parties?

I have zero sympathy. Even AOC has zero sympathy.

A person who is passed out cannot give consent.

The rapists should be held responsible.

Whateves. The lil bish loved it.

[quote] Gray is speaking out about the incident in hopes of raising awareness not just to sexual assault against men, but to warm people about the dangers of chemsex.

If he didn’t listen to his friend who warned him about the party, why does he think anyone will listen to him?

Druggies gonna drug.

Camille Paglia is a vile and wretched attention whore who will say anything provocative to get press.

He's on my Grindr favourites.

Kay XL 📹

Is his username. He's usually looking for Chemsex or 💵

[quote]R83 Own your own actions. Take responsibility for them. Learn from your experiences in order to become a better, more wiser, person.

R34 Paglia is right.

It's a dog-eat-dog world.

Can't remember who posted it upthread, but yes, absolutely, blackouts can be about memory formation being interrupted, and not always about just being comatose. He could have been wide awake and into it, but not remembered that part. Blackouts are creepy as hell.

Also, Camille Paglia lives the rock and roll life? WTF?

Kayden Gray is a prostitute druggie who is/is not taking medication supplied by taxpayers.

R157 is right

Ari Gold in the comments:

Prax07

If everyone participating at the sex party was drugged up, horned up, and judgement impaired, then how are they rapists? He went to the party to participate, in the drugs and the sex, and it’s sad and terrible that he passed out and that they continued to have sex with him, but it really seems like a case of getting what you asked for, and buyers remorse. He knew the risks of doing drugs in a risky situation like that, and sorry, but to me it seems he got treated like he should have expected and been prepared for. No one should be sexually assaulted but then he shouldn’t have put himself in a situation where he could’ve been.

...

Ari Gold

Please go shoot yourself because with that kind of mindset, you deserve to be dead.

Is there documentation of the Semen-in-the-Anus?

Chem Catrall was right about not going back to Sex and the City.

This breaks my heart.

I hope he remembers as little as possible and that by not recounting every second of it helps him in healing a bit quicker than not.

I can’t even count how many rape stories have been told to me in confidence, and while most were all women, I sponsored a few twins in AA as well, and even with consent, the Chem-Sex parties sound wild. Once the GHB starts flowing, I’m sure the line between consent and non consent blur.

2 guys, two women, that’s the only one is go for if o ever were curious enough to venture down that road. And no chem. I can fuck for hours without assistance.

Lol.

But seriously, I hope he remains negative.

No one should ever be the victim of rape, and I hope they prosecute the perpetrator to the fullest extent of the law.

That being said: what a dipshit this guy is.

This story is three years old but I wonder what the point of even attending was? What's with his "friend" waiting until he arrived to tell him everyone was HIV positive. Then to stick around at a sex party with poz guys says it all. He wanted to play with fire.

The mystery here is, how did he find 3 tops in the same room?

Was the observers crying on the sidelines upset this Kayden was hogging them all?

I can only feel a small level of sympathy for a clearly deeply insecure man who uses sex as a crutch for his deep internalised shame. This 'gay' guy is now doing only fans with women/FTMs now.

Awful and very sad.

r167 he literally says that he went back for more of this type of sex. So, was it really that awful if he goes back for more?

r162 "2 guys, two women, that’s the only one is go for if o ever were curious enough to venture down that road" What are you saying? You want a bi 5 some? huh?

"But seriously, I hope he remains negative." if you mean stays HIV negative, then im afraid that ship has long sailed.

"don't let anyone fuck you" he knew everyone was poz and I was neg - and yet you took drugs at a chem sex party and are suprised you got barebacked and pissed on? Why exactly did you go?

He hit me up on grindr in London, that guy knew what he was doing going into that party.

For the buffet R170

R171 He's hit me up on Grindr too.

At least he's able to push through the trauma of it by releasing so many porn films.

I would do meth every day if I could! That party be like any other day.

This man is just ungrateful. I'd be heavily disappointed if I went to a chemsex party and didn't get raped and pissed on.

Perhaps the host didn't post a list of dos and don'ts at the door.

The truth is he was completely complaisant, they just neglected to pay him and he's pissed!

Ahhh yes. I bet it was a pay to play situation.

R178 Bingo. He's pissed he never got paid, told them he would say he was raped and is now getting some attention out of it. With a face like his, he should be grateful for any sex he gets.

[quote]With a face like his, he should be grateful for any sex he gets.

Really? He's one of the few pornisti I have found attractive in this century.

Oh, hunny. There’s no personal accountability here. No talk about balance, prudence or sobriety either. What is the true motive of this account? I think it has more to do with the lingering camera view of his crotch rather than watching out for others. Would anyone care if he was 50, living on the street and had a dog face? ‘Cause that’s where meth will take him.

If your going to fling mud, al least cinch your caftan, dearie.

No, just no.

If you’re going to

Breaking News: Sexual Predators at Chemsex Party ... You won't guess what happens next!

YAWN and a FART.

A long juicy FART.

🤢🤢🤮

Sounds like what happened to Corey Haim when he was a very young man. The reported stories of him getting drugged up and passed out at Hollywood parties. Then he would be stripped, placed face down on the bed, and fucked by the powerful men at the party who lined up to get their turn at his ass.

This is just so sad & hope he's seeking help. I suspect an ex's heading down the chemsex assailant route because of his personal choice to not get help like CMA, coupled w/far too many folks who are willing participants.

I liked him in porn, very hot guy.

If you go to a chemsex party though, isn’t that basically why you’re doing it? I mean what do you expect, a nice pot of tea and a muffin and a civilised chat about issues of the day?

Is there a reason this thread was bumped by r147 after three-and-a-half years without any comments?

OMG you sad cases having grand mal seizures over a 4 year old story about an even many years older than that.

If you need to kvetch why not take on Kayden Gray new productions of today. He's made a big fan fare about going bareback (le snore). Somehow Bianca Del Rio is involved. Very complicated back story, he takes his "work" so seriously.

He also was in some treacly Pan-woodland-creature porn that might suit a freshman art school student 15 years his junior. I had to laugh.

2017 Bump Troll, yo!

Isn't he dead of COVID by now?

R193 No one dies because of COVID, they just die with COVID. Easier to pump up the statistics that way.

He used to be hot but he's soured like all Polish boys do.

Big cock though.

Polish whores have such sad lives.

Short ones too.

Who's buying his stuff now?

He looks like he smells of cabbage and beetroot.

Sauerkraut

'Kayden Gray' is a name that sounds like it came out of a Random Whore Name Generator.

Especially as he's Polish!

The stupid must roll off of him like fog...or it could just be meth smoke.

and I believe this porn star who went public with his rape (and got HIV)

Just produced a video where he fucks a guy (unprotected) and off PREP to prove U equals U

Was Blue Bailey listed as the director R203?

R204 no, Kayden directed himself

So he's a man of many...talents.

Kayden isn't stupid, he seems average in IQ, and pretentious. I think he is still handsome and hot but I have catholic tastes.

Speaking of catholic (catholic small C means broad-minded) there used to be tons of HOT & horny Polish priests in the Western capitals - Paris, Vienna, Rome. I'm talking 80s, early 90s. Yummers!

Yes there are R207

Poland is one of the underfetishised lands of size meat.

So pretty, so stupid.

And now so poz R211.

R210 I've never had good sex with a Pole.

“Kayden?”

Poor lad never had a chance.

That's just his porn name.

His real name is probably Stanislav

Isn’t the whole point of a Che section party to get raped?

^ Chem sex party

Apparently autocorrect dislikes that combo

I was gonna ask what a Che party was?

Sounds fun. Sounds like everyone gets naked, sits around humming Kumbaha My Lord with a herbal tea in their hands.

Kayden

sex worker

chemsex party

Good lord....

R219, even he has boundaries! ...somewhere

I want to know who passed out on meth?

If he’s looking for Sympathy, he can find it in the dictionary, between Shit and Syphilis.

He didn't deserve what happened (assuming it actually did), but really had to know better than to go to that party, and he did it anyway.

I wonder if he signed a disclaimer on entry.

Is this like when a college girl sluts it up for a gangbang, regrets it when the rumors start to spread and cries rape?

After passing out from what he believes was an overdose of ‘G’ or ketamine, Gray woke up to find three men taking turns having bareback sex with him. A fourth was in the room watching, and crying. < I'm more interested in why the guy was crying.

R226 Wasted his load on a well used hole.

This is the problem with unregulated sex parties. Antics like this happen.

We need to see much more regulation in this area. Pre-play Covid screening. St John's Ambulance crew in attendance. Those two spring to mind.

My sexual life seems much better compared to his!

R226, that sounds like a very successful chemsex party to me

Did the participants go back I wonder?

WTF is with all of these Chemsex threads? Why is this a thing?

Because, like it or not, chemsex is a thing R232

In case anyone wants some of that.

Ooh, I’m so horny after a year a lock down that getting raped at a chemsex party actually sounds good

Why would anyone pay for sex with a dumb junkie, just get him high and he'll throw it at you for free?

Who's contacted him and made him freeze his Rentman account?

I’d love to be a juror in the trial so I can jerk off about it each night

I stopped reading after the first line "Kayden Gray is a sex worker from London" If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen !!!!

He does have a very nice cock

I'd really advise just looking at it R240.

[...]

Incidents, such as these, would be an excellent “Law and Order - SVU” episode. The show needs more gay content.

Who's bumping all these old threads??

This makes me mindful of men and women who sero convert and have no idea how it happened. It's probable they fell asleep/passed out at a social gathering and some cretin injected them with a dirty needle. If it's done correctly you wouldn't even notice. It also happens that somebody who's passed out gets fucked bareback by somebody who's HIV+ and not on meds. I've heard about it.

This is one of the reasons I've stopped hookups, online and otherwise. I'm not soapboxing, I'm stating what I've decided after years of doing it. If you're in your twenties of course it's a different story. In any case you must accept the risks of socializing and having intimate relations with strangers. Another reason I quit hookups is that I felt the law of averages would catch up to me.

The end of 'Looking for Mr. Goodbar' is not how I envisage my departure from this mortal coil of fuckery.

R244: “ Who's bumping all these old threads??”

By DataLounge standards, the only reason that an old thread is bumped is to distract from bad news about the current president.

This can't happen anymore since Brexit.

Stop being sex negative. It would have been great if this hadn't happened. Thousands of gay men have chem sex regularly and it's cause for celebration, not prisspot fear.

He's always cruising Grindr for fresh meat in London.

He's a bit doughy now, since his early porn days.

Please don't make me read something from 2017 thinking it's new content.

He's aged since his early porn days, but I still think he's escorting if you're interested R250

I think he's stopped escorting now.

I think he may be just doing onlyfans content.

You can have high standards at a chemsex party?

'Kay.

[quote] Well you are flying high [R14]

God only knows how many chemsex parties those three flirty stews took advantage of!

[quote] Stop being sex negative.

Nothing is more sex positive than a chemsex party where someone was raped and left bleeding at both ends!

“chemsex parties near me”

Maybe he learned a lesson.

I think he still goes to sex parties.

The stupid never learn, they just hurt others.

This just in, Stupid people are stupid.

Is he still escorting?