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I'm extremely stuck, extremely depressed and I need help

I went to a really good college on the east coast but didn't make the most of it because I was so so shy, introverted, spacey, and awkward. I was one of those kids who were unhappy and extremely anxious. I also realized I was a lesbian partway through and was isolated and kept resisting being gay. I was medicated during all 4 years and basically just sleepwalked through since it seemed like that's what others were doing. I was also too intimidated to take some classes or felt like I shouldn't take them because I wouldn't be good at them.

My mom developed a seriously debilitating, progressive illness partway through (that she died from 2 years ago) and I used it as an excuse to kind of give up. I ended up moving back home after college and now I'm 30 and still here. I can't think of anything I would be cool with doing w my degree and I have no friends and live in a constant state of anxiety and depression. I wish I took art classes and could become an art therapist but I stupidly didn't take those. I'm theoretically very interested in art and art history but I never took the time to really apply myself. All I do is complain and I"m too anxious to even watch TV or read so I have no hobbies or interests.

My dad is an amazing person and has put up with so much from me but I don't feel attached to life anymore... there's no way forward where I can be happy.

I don't know what to do. I got fat (but lost the weight) so my boobs don't look great. I am considering becoming an escort and moving to nyc or something if I can get a boob job but I'm probably too old. I'm tired of being so isolated and unhappy all the time but if I want an actual job with my english degree, I'm going to have to do volunteer work or internships in the suburbs where there are no people my age. I would do literally anything for the kind of money I could live off of... I'm terrible with people and people think I'm weird and don't want to be around me.

by Anonymousreply 357June 20, 2021 10:01 PM

If you are terrible with people, you won't make any money as a whore. Why don't you stay where you are and get a good therapist. If you are really a miserable misanthrope by character, get a night job involving little contact with people and spare society. Write a novel or take art classes during the day, work at night and for god's sake don't spread your misery to people. You sound like a terrible candidate to become a therapist of any kind. The 30s is going to be your last chance to know yourself and make the best of what you've got.

by Anonymousreply 1February 12, 2021 11:58 PM

Oooh you could be a high-end lesbian escort. Or dom. Do an onlyfans page. Do you like animals? Get a job in a shelter or bet’s office. If you’re an English major, get a WFH job editing/writing.

We’re all weird. What makes you think you’re weirder than the rest of us?

Have you ever been in a solid relationship?

by Anonymousreply 2February 13, 2021 12:02 AM

Chaterbate. Graduate to Only Fans.

by Anonymousreply 3February 13, 2021 12:06 AM

R2 Because it's been made clear to me by many people, over and over again, that I'm weird and awkward

by Anonymousreply 4February 13, 2021 12:17 AM

R2 No, I've never been in a solid relationship. I've been unhappy my whole life. Even as a child, I didn't really smile in photos much.

by Anonymousreply 5February 13, 2021 12:18 AM

If there are any millionaires or billionaires here, I'll literally do anything in the world for $2 million.

Thinking of killing myself soon anyway, probably within the next couple years.

by Anonymousreply 6February 13, 2021 12:21 AM

1) Get into therapy.

2) Get on antidepressants. Your depression needs to be treated.

3) Stay where you are and go back to school for art therapy. If you love it, and it will give your life direction, do it. Start by signing up for an online art history class (or one of those Great Lectures on art history).

4) Look into volunteering with an art therapist.

You are so young. You likely have 40 years of working life ahead of you—it is not too late to go back to school for something you love. Many of us have had to pivot once or twice in our lives, including going back to school.

But you have to make the choice: Keep stewing in your sadness, or get up off the couch and take action. Take the first right action, then the next, and just keep moving.

by Anonymousreply 7February 13, 2021 12:31 AM

I just kind of thought I'd be rescued somehow. I was pretty and attractive guys thought I was pretty & sweet and I thought that I could just marry one of them.

I'm an idiot and I've been truly miserable all my life. I want someone to adopt me

-OP

by Anonymousreply 8February 13, 2021 12:32 AM

I’ll write more later but I just wanted to tell you that I admire your honesty and that you are not alone.

I know my fellow cunts and bitches will provide invaluable feedback, even if some if some of it will be brutal (prepare yourself), and personal experiences of their own you may relate to.

Good for you for opening up and letting it all out.

by Anonymousreply 9February 13, 2021 12:33 AM

R7 In order to do art therapy I'd have to take something like 7 studio art courses. I live in my head and only thought about taking art but I never did it. All my thoughts were consumed with wanting cool friends who accepted and understood me.

by Anonymousreply 10February 13, 2021 12:33 AM

[quote]In order to do art therapy I'd have to take something like 7 studio art courses.

Then do it.

by Anonymousreply 11February 13, 2021 12:34 AM

R9 Thank you so much <3 I'm a suicidal loser but I'm honest, right?

I basically went through college as if I were a trust fund baby. I was definitely out of touch with reality to some degree. Others maybe could bounce back but I'm the type of person that should have gotten into film editing, art history, art therapy... low key and creative careers. Now I don't have many options.

-OP

by Anonymousreply 12February 13, 2021 12:35 AM

[quote]only thought about taking art but I never did it. All my thoughts were consumed with wanting cool friends who accepted and understood me.

[quote]I basically went through college as if I were a trust fund baby. I was definitely out of touch with reality to some degree.

You also seem to be stuck on what happened in the past. Let it go. You're not living in the past now. You're living today, and you have plenty of options to move forward.

by Anonymousreply 13February 13, 2021 12:37 AM

R13 Thanks. It's very difficult though because the loneliness gives me a lot of brainfog and gives me intense anxiety in my upper chest and throat. It makes me not want to do anything.

I'm in the suburbs of NY and there are very few younger people here. And none of them would want to be friends with me anyway because I'm spacey, depressed and I look disgusting now.

by Anonymousreply 14February 13, 2021 12:39 AM

I feel like Fiona Apple and Winona Ryder were bad role models, in retrospect

-OP (also 14 is OP)

by Anonymousreply 15February 13, 2021 12:41 AM

Does anyone know of weird ways to make tons of money? Like being a sex slave for a few years or something? I'm willing to give up more years of my life for $$$ if it means that I can spend the rest of my life reading, playing the piano and chilling.

-OP

by Anonymousreply 16February 13, 2021 12:44 AM

R12 You are not a loser. You are being honest, self-aware, and, quite frankly, brave.

by Anonymousreply 17February 13, 2021 12:46 AM

R17 Thank you but I'm definitely an entitled loser and I have no problem speaking about how crazy I am tbh

by Anonymousreply 18February 13, 2021 12:53 AM

[quote]Stay where you are and go back to school for art therapy. If you love it, and it will give your life direction, do it.

But be prepared to make very little money.

If you’re weird* and uncomfortable around people, you’d fit right in with software engineers.

*All the best people are weird in one way or another.

by Anonymousreply 19February 13, 2021 12:54 AM

R19 I don't care about money, I just want to be surrounded by people I like and who like me & do something creative.

Software engineers are weird in a logical, detached way. I'm weird in an ethereal, sensitive way - think if Bjork had never made any music but just existed as is

by Anonymousreply 20February 13, 2021 12:58 AM

Maybe I could become a librarian and do art stuff on the side.

-OP

by Anonymousreply 21February 13, 2021 1:01 AM

Your problem is you think too damn much . You want to take art therapy classes,then just sign up for one and do it. Dont think it to death . It seems to me like you think everything over so much and end up convincing yourself its stupid or pointless . Just do it ! I was just like you when younger and I finally got so sick of my own head I just shut it off and acted. I wanted to go to the bar ? I just went. I didnt think about how ugly I felt or how weird I was or wether anyone might like me,I just went . And you know what? 9 times out of 10 I had a great time. Just do it honey,whatever it is you want.

by Anonymousreply 22February 13, 2021 1:22 AM

R22 I would have to take studio art classes and then an art therapy masters degree costs about $30k

by Anonymousreply 23February 13, 2021 1:30 AM

Someone please help me, please save me

by Anonymousreply 24February 13, 2021 1:33 AM

The battle cry of every millennial and gen z ever

by Anonymousreply 25February 13, 2021 1:35 AM

R25 They're not as screwed as I am right now

by Anonymousreply 26February 13, 2021 1:36 AM

Damn, you idiots -- can't anyone on DL spot an Extremely Silly Tale anymore?

by Anonymousreply 27February 13, 2021 1:42 AM

R27 I really wish it were an Extremely Silly Tale but this is actually my life, as ridiculous and pathetic as it is. I really am that helpless and stupid.

-OP

by Anonymousreply 28February 13, 2021 1:47 AM

There are a zillion artists on Youtube giving free art lessons--sketching, materials, painting, canvass, murals. all the shit. You can find lessons for everything on youtube. So go get yourself a sketching pad and some pencils and begin.

Go on Facebook and start a page (or meetup.com: call it "Amateur artists of (wherever the fuck you are)" Spend a few dollars running ads so you can get local people interested. In my city, the group that does this gets together on a weekend morning a few times a month, and meets together to sketch an old building.

Also, look on Facebook and meetup for other local groups that would interest you.

The only easy way to make a shitload of money is by doing illegal stuff (ie drugs), and you don't have the mental wherewithal to survive prison. In fact, you need to stop feeding yourself the fantasy that there are easy ways to make huge amounts of money. I mean, if there were, don't you think everyone would be doing it?

Print up R7's list of suggestions and put it on your refrigerator.

by Anonymousreply 29February 13, 2021 1:48 AM

R29 But the people in my area (Westchester County, NY) are pretty much all older and I don't relate to the rest of them. I'm like a quirky hipster-y type and I haven't found anyone like that here. If they are here then they want nothing to do with me.

by Anonymousreply 30February 13, 2021 1:51 AM

Hey I’m sorry for your lost and everything that you are going through. I understand what you’re going through considering I’m dealing with most of the same things. I have anxiety, still living at home in my mid twenties and have some trouble talking to people due to my stutter. You should really talk to a trained professional you help you deal with everything you’re going through. Try blahtherapy.com I think they do sessions for really cheap plus you can search up some free counseling.

by Anonymousreply 31February 13, 2021 1:53 AM

R31 Thanks, I actually already have a therapist who's pretty fed up with me at this point I think

by Anonymousreply 32February 13, 2021 1:54 AM

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by Anonymousreply 33February 13, 2021 1:55 AM

R33 I know... I know how ridiculous I am but it doesn't change the reality of my situation and the fact that I've spent the last 10 years with no social interaction and completely miserable.

by Anonymousreply 34February 13, 2021 1:56 AM

[quote] I am considering becoming an escort and moving to nyc or something if I can get a boob job but I'm probably too old.

That's your best idea. And you're not too old if you take in very old clients, like just specialize in rich guys over 80.

by Anonymousreply 35February 13, 2021 1:57 AM

I wonder if you could have undiagnosed asperger's.

by Anonymousreply 36February 13, 2021 1:57 AM

R34 The tiny seed knew that in order to grow it needed to be dropped in dirt, covered in darkness, and struggle to reach the light.

by Anonymousreply 37February 13, 2021 2:01 AM

R36 I might be somewhat on the spectrum but I'm pretty good at reading and understanding people. I'm definitely sensitive to noise and am pretty self-deprecating and awkward though.

by Anonymousreply 38February 13, 2021 2:01 AM

R38 --OP

by Anonymousreply 39February 13, 2021 2:01 AM

I’m weird and anxious. I’m extremely tall which makes me freakish. I hated myself in my teens and 20s. Then something wonderful happened. I embraced my weirdness and I’ve been happy ever since. I’ll never really fit in anywhere so the few friends I have are weird, too. Love yourself, honey. I’d rather be my weird ass self than those so called perfect people. xo

by Anonymousreply 40February 13, 2021 2:02 AM

Why do you assume the other weirdos of Westchester won't be interested in you?

There's a saying that I've found to be true--"There's an ass for every seat."

I even know a lot of gay/lesbian weirdos in my town. I don't hang out with them, but I discovered them on Facebook--because they have a page and announce meetings and things.

Becoming a prostitute will make you much less mentally stable--it won't fix any of your problems, and no one makes a ton of money on it.

It's kind of wild that you're paying a therapist 200+ an hour to tell him/her that you want to run away and become a prostitute.

by Anonymousreply 41February 13, 2021 2:03 AM

[quote] There's a saying that I've found to be true--"There's an ass for every seat."

“There’s a seat for every ass.”

Or is it, “Never let them see your ass?”...

by Anonymousreply 42February 13, 2021 2:05 AM

R41 My dad is paying for my therapist. Which makes everything more pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 43February 13, 2021 2:07 AM

Then chances are your dad will pay for school, OP.

That's more than a lot of us can say.

Take advantage of it, do something with your life, and stop feeling sorry for yourself. Living in your head 24-7 is getting you nowhere.

TAKE ACTION.

by Anonymousreply 44February 13, 2021 2:09 AM

R44 Yeah, my dad paid for four years at Vassar. Which is why this is all so insane and embarrassing. It's like I've been influenced by everyone I was close to and just followed what they did and ended up nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 45February 13, 2021 2:11 AM

R4 The only people who aren’t weird are the people you don’t know.

by Anonymousreply 46February 13, 2021 2:11 AM

30k is nothing for a masters. I know lawyers who have 300k in student loan debt.

by Anonymousreply 47February 13, 2021 2:12 AM

R44 You should feel lucky that you weren't coddled. I wish that my parents forced me to be more independent earlier on. Maybe I wouldn't have ended up like this.

I understand that many people are "weird" but people have mentioned that I'm basically remarkably weird and quirky.

by Anonymousreply 48February 13, 2021 2:13 AM

R47 But lawyers make tons of money. Art therapists make $70k a year IF they're lucky.

by Anonymousreply 49February 13, 2021 2:13 AM

R49, are you joking?

I know lawyers that make less than 50k working for non-profits, legal services, etc.

by Anonymousreply 50February 13, 2021 2:14 AM

R50 Oh ok, I thought most lawyers made at least 100k a year and at biglaw made over 200k or so

by Anonymousreply 51February 13, 2021 2:16 AM

I was obsessed with celebrities and would walk around pretending I was one of the Olsen twins or something --ridiculous and stupid. Must have been influenced by the trust fund babies in my school. My stupidity defies comprehension

-OP

by Anonymousreply 52February 13, 2021 2:17 AM

Lawyers salaries have been dropping for years. Also, the number of legal jobs way outpaces the number of graduates--there are tons of lawyers who can't find anything at all.

Lawyers who work for non-profits (like I said) or the state attorney or child advocacy or immigration can make very little: they do it for the love of it.

by Anonymousreply 53February 13, 2021 2:18 AM

Do you have siblings? Maybe your dad will set you up for life (if you live frugally). Leave you the house, some savings. And you could supplement by trying to do house sitting, dog walking, being a companion or something.

If you're really willing to "do anything" what about nursing? Pretty quick to get qualified, at least as LPN or nurse's assistant -- there will always be jobs, and you'd be helping people a lot, all the time.

But if your dad paid for Vassar, surely he'd pay for qualifying in any kind of healthcare field -- physical or occupational therapy, respiratory therapy, etc.

by Anonymousreply 54February 13, 2021 2:19 AM

R54 Yes, I have one other sibling. My dad has made a good salary but has his own life to live so there's no telling how much I'd inherit. It would definitely not be enough to live on forever.

I've considered doing nursing just for a day job. However, I'm pretty spacey and klutzy and have never really been interested in biology. I know lots of people with my personality type (INFP 4w5) hate it and nurses can be pretty mean to each other from what I understand.

It's more like, I can't get over the sadness of not being involved in the arts. Most of my classmates are doing incredible things with photography, art history, working at MoMa. I don't think I can get over what I wasted.

by Anonymousreply 55February 13, 2021 2:27 AM

R54 The only nice thing about me is that I'm frugal. If I suddenly received $2 mil I would easily use that for the rest of my life and just live in a little apartment somewhere. It's more like, I want to be around people I like and who like me. I want people to respect me and I want to be creative with other people.

by Anonymousreply 56February 13, 2021 2:28 AM

But why did you get an english degree if you prefer visual arts?

by Anonymousreply 57February 13, 2021 2:35 AM

Another lesbian here who isn’t buying any of this. It sounds like one of you MARYS trolling.

Repeatedly asking if she can be a sex slave or escort? Wtf? How do you bitter queens viciously attack people over the most ridiculous shit but some troll rolls up here claiming to be a stupid beyond comprehension hopelessly depressed lesbian wanting a boob job and you are all giving advice like fiends.

Am I in the fucking twilight zone?

On the very off chance that this is real - sorry about your mom OP and sending you love - but I’m not believing this.

by Anonymousreply 58February 13, 2021 2:35 AM

[quote] If I suddenly received $2 mil I would easily use that for the rest of my life and just live in a little apartment somewhere.

Repeating this over and over to yourself is one of the things that is holding you back.

by Anonymousreply 59February 13, 2021 2:36 AM

R58 I'm genuinely not trolling. I don't know what else to tell you... like, I'm actually not trolling. I'm just a crazy person.

And yes, I'm stupid beyond comprehension and I know that. I genuinely don't understand why I behaved in the way I did. I guess it was a mix of entitlement, loneliness, and rigidity about how I expected my life to go. I definitely have some degree of dissociation that manifests as spaciness

-OP

by Anonymousreply 60February 13, 2021 2:38 AM

R57 Because I was clueless. I've lived in my head my entire life. I had a lot of difficulty with managing my time and decided not to take certain classes because I felt "oh, I'm not an artist so why take art classes." I wanted to take photography but I would have had to have taken beginners studio art first and it looked incredibly difficult. So yes, lazy and stupid and thought things would just work out. IDK. I worked so hard in high school and was so focused on making friends in college and fitting in. There is definitely something very very wrong with me but.. yeah.

-OP

by Anonymousreply 61February 13, 2021 2:41 AM

You've gotten a lot of good advice, OP. It's up to you how you use it.

BTW, nothing stops you from buying a cheap DSLR camera and doing portraits for free. Nothing stops you from using that camera to make promotional little videos for the non-profits in your area that need free PR videos for their facebook pages. Nothing stops you from starting your own facebook page for artists in your area. Nothing stops you from taking free classes on youtube for sketching, etc.

And I actually am a lesbian with a (small) trust fund. I still have a job.

by Anonymousreply 62February 13, 2021 2:43 AM

Have you experimented with drugs? You should at least get some xanax.

by Anonymousreply 63February 13, 2021 2:50 AM

R62 It's good that you have the personality to work even when you have a trust fund.

I will try to keep pushing on despite extreme loneliness

by Anonymousreply 64February 13, 2021 2:51 AM

R63 Yeah, I've been on different drugs in the past. I've gone to a psychiatrist. That's what makes all of this so pathetic... I really did believe I was some kind of special person idk. I really did all of this to myself

by Anonymousreply 65February 13, 2021 2:52 AM

My neighbor thinks I should just go apply to social work school for an MSW. She's had a good career despite the fact that she only did it for money in the first place. Not sure if I could survive the program though

by Anonymousreply 66February 13, 2021 2:57 AM

OP, so you might be weird and awkward. Many of us are. I'm older and I still struggle with the knowledge that I'm a misfit who also has occasional depression and feelings of worthlessness.

Find things you love to do. Find things to do that are active and can get you out of the house. Walk, exercise, focus on eating healthy foods. Watch birds, tend plants, read books, eat chocolate, drink tea, pick an interesting subject and learn everything you can about it. Be kind to a stranger.

Stop criticizing yourself. It's hard, I know, I still do it. We are harder on ourselves than is anyone else. You are probably lovable in ways you can't imagine.

I also enjoy stories about people who mess up their lives big time. Take a look at the PA murder suicide threads. I think partly why they are so popular is because we can read them and think, "Thank God I'm not that crazy." There will always be someone more miserable and unhappy than us.

by Anonymousreply 67February 13, 2021 2:59 AM

OP, do not go into sex work. Letting yourself by used by people who do not care about you will destroy your soul.

Learn some sort of skill, start at the bottom if you have to, and work hard. Earn an honest earning that will grow your confidence and self respect.

by Anonymousreply 68February 13, 2021 3:02 AM

You are a deeply annoying defeatist and terrible conversationalist.

by Anonymousreply 69February 13, 2021 3:06 AM

R68 Do you have any suggestions for skills?

by Anonymousreply 70February 13, 2021 3:07 AM

R69 I know and I'm sorry.

by Anonymousreply 71February 13, 2021 3:08 AM

I am (sort of) in the same boat as you OP, and we are the same age. I went to grad school and got a Master's degree from an expensive college in New York City, with the intention of going forward into a PhD program after. I had spent very little money getting my B.A. (under $10k) so I figured it would be a beneficial investment in the long run. Long story short, I realized midway through my M.A. (thanks to a number of PhD students, advisors, and professors) that going into a PhD program with the intent of becoming a professor was an utter pipe dream. I knew as an undergrad that it was difficult to land one of those jobs (at least a non-adjunct position), but when I was at a graduate level and hearing it from these people, it really cemented. I was young, naive, and had rose-colored glasses on, I guess. I also had no real guidance in terms of higher education (I am the only person in my family with a college degree). I was bound and determined though to follow through with it, especially because my undergrad studies had been interrupted with a cancer diagnosis when I was 21, which ate up two years of my life before I could re-enroll.

In any case, I did follow through and get my M.A., but I ended up back home, broke and utterly lost. One thing my college advisors (as well as the head of my grad program) had always stressed was that private school teaching was always a viable opportunity to fall back on. I've not found this to be true—those jobs are not exactly abundant (especially now due to COVID) and they are also very competitive because all of the PhDs who can't get tenured professorships are vying for them. Last year, I went through another health crisis and had to have open-heart surgery, which was kind of traumatizing.

I am fortunately in good health now, but I feel guilty because I don't think I am really grateful for it. Like you, I feel very trapped in my circumstances and have been going through bouts of severe depression over the last couple of years. I am working in a field completely outside what I studied, but the upside is the company I work for is great and I like the people there. Still, I am not where I want to be, nor where I expected to be at this point in my life. I suppose this is the case for most people. I feel pathetic a lot of the time, but such is life. It may not be much, but I empathize.

by Anonymousreply 72February 13, 2021 3:15 AM

R69 Then feel lucky you aren't me. How do you think it feels to be me, then?

by Anonymousreply 73February 13, 2021 3:15 AM

Assuming this is not an EST, OP sounds like she's looking for an easy way out. (Wants to live off of $2 million that materializes out of nowhere.) Says she's lazy & entitled. Get a job, OP, just like everybody else.

by Anonymousreply 74February 13, 2021 3:16 AM

"... you could be a high-end lesbian escort."

Sometimes you hit the jackpot.

by Anonymousreply 75February 13, 2021 3:17 AM

R72 Wow, you have gone through some genuinely traumatizing things! I'm so sorry to hear about your diagnoses.

I'm way more self-absorbed and crazy than you are but it's reassuring to know I'm not the only one who feels this way

by Anonymousreply 76February 13, 2021 3:17 AM

R74 Yeah, it's true that I'm looking for the easy way out. I wish I were extroverted and more logical or stable so having a regular job wouldn't be so horrible.

I know I'm entitled and dramatic but some of it is baked into my personality and I've been this way since I was little. I've never had a relationship and I don't have much to live for right now

by Anonymousreply 77February 13, 2021 3:18 AM

Ooooh Westchester. I’m from Pleasantville. No offense OP but you are looking for the easy way out. I went back and got my MSW at 32. But I went to Hunter which is CUNY and cheap. You can do a lot with the degree. I would take some non matric courses maybe volunteer and figure out where you would like to land. You have time but get going!

by Anonymousreply 78February 13, 2021 3:21 AM

[quote] I know I'm entitled and dramatic but some of it is baked into my personality and I've been this way since I was little.

Baked into your personality? Been this way since you were little? Have you been diagnosed with anything in the DSM? If not, then sounds like you're crafting "diagnoses" that relieve personal responsibility.

by Anonymousreply 79February 13, 2021 3:26 AM

R78 Thanks. Yep, I know I'm looking for the easy way out. I want friends and I'm sad. I want to be friends with the people I went to school with that work at MoMa now.

Do you think someone who's super introverted can be a social worker? I worry that the program would destroy me

by Anonymousreply 80February 13, 2021 3:26 AM

R79 I mean, personalities are a thing. I'm an INFP 4w5 and it fits. I relate with what people who identify with this personality type say about things. Some people are more shy, more sensitive than others

by Anonymousreply 81February 13, 2021 3:28 AM

Vassar should rescind your diploma. You're the laziest "liberally educated" mind I have encountered in years. It's embarrassing. (I am a college prof.) You are extremely scattered and delusional with no stamina to follow through logically about anything. It's appalling.

by Anonymousreply 82February 13, 2021 3:29 AM

R82 And I'm perfectly aware of this and how delusional I am. You don't need to insult me as I spend everyday with intense anxiety, understanding how much I messed up my life.

by Anonymousreply 83February 13, 2021 3:31 AM

R82 I've spent about 8 years in near-isolation so yes, that makes a person even more scattered and delusional.

by Anonymousreply 84February 13, 2021 3:32 AM

[quote] It's good that you have the personality to work even when you have a trust fund.

Not only me, I know lots of people in the non-profit world who work and have small trust funds (or outright inheritances). It's not rare. (I also know people with ENORMOUS trust funds who kind of pretend to work--but that's a different story.)

People in that situation generally don't sit at home all day playing the piano.

by Anonymousreply 85February 13, 2021 3:32 AM

I say that to knock you out of your delusion. What the hell did you learn at Vassar? Is it all gone? Hard to believe you can't follow through a though logically. If you can't then you need mental health treatment. If the mental health treatment doesn't work, it's not going to get better for you. Do therapists deny you treatment? Are you untreatable? It seems like you might be, because of your defeatism.

by Anonymousreply 86February 13, 2021 3:33 AM

Do you really want help, OP, or do you just want to be roasted? Because Reddit's /r/roastme might be more your speed.

People have taken time to give you a lot of good advice on this thread, and you haven't said whether you've absorbed or are considering any of it.

by Anonymousreply 87February 13, 2021 3:34 AM

R85 Yeah, I know someone with a trust fund and she's very hardworking. Her father pushed her very hard to succeed, which obviously was positive on that level but negatively affected her mental health.

I think it all depends on personality too. A super rich person who's very introverted and sensitive may spend their time making art or playing the piano but others need and want that social connection and are ambitious.

by Anonymousreply 88February 13, 2021 3:35 AM

I read half way through this shit

OP desperately tried to pretend she was a "trust fund baby", and is even more desperate to label herself as "quirky"

She wants to be like some character from a tv program or something. And she's lazy. What she really wants is to "get a job" that doesn't require any preparation/schooling, where she doesn't really have to do any work and gets paid a fortune

And one of her bright ideas is to become a prostitute. No matter what you tell OP, she'll have an excuse why she can't do it

I hope this is just a troll and not some pathetic person. either way, she's a waste

by Anonymousreply 89February 13, 2021 3:35 AM

R86 Are you trying to get me to kill myself?

by Anonymousreply 90February 13, 2021 3:35 AM

No I'm not. Have therapist refused to treat you?

by Anonymousreply 91February 13, 2021 3:37 AM

R89 Yep, you're right. And I'm sorry for being a waste.

by Anonymousreply 92February 13, 2021 3:37 AM

I went to a private liberal arts college that gave me a degree with a pot leaf and had their accreditation revoked last year. I know the pain of a worthless, expensive degree.

Get a factory job night shift. You won't have to talk to a lot of people they're always hiring and they'll work you to the bone. Need 4/12s over the weekend? No problem boss. Eventually you'll do anything to leave and you'll have some $ saved up by then. Plus you can usually work up the ladder. Where abouts are you? I bet I can find something in my industry pretty quick

by Anonymousreply 93February 13, 2021 3:37 AM

R91 I've had therapists for most of my life

by Anonymousreply 94February 13, 2021 3:37 AM

And right now you have one? And no drug treatment? No behavioral therapy? Do they know you have suicidal ideation?

by Anonymousreply 95February 13, 2021 3:39 AM

R95 Yes, I have a psychologist now. She mainly just listens and encourages me to put the past in the past. I don't think she feels I should be medicated. I've tried medications in the past though.

by Anonymousreply 96February 13, 2021 3:40 AM

OP, R67 & R68 here. Stop saying you're sorry and stop telling your self you are stupid. Look at all the really stupid people who horribly mess up who never apologize. Some are elected officials even.

Regarding skills, computer programs and software are a good place to start. Word Office Suite, Adobe Creative Suite, stuff like that. Community colleges offer low cost classes in practical skills that can get you a job. Really think hard about stuff you enjoy. What careers might be a good fit?

I'm retired and buy and sell antiques but it's not a big money maker. I love it though. Sometimes I look at part time job listings and think about making some extra money that way. I get emails from Indeed.com. Maybe they're not dream careers but it's paid work and may get you out of your rut.

We talk about volunteering here and careers can be had from dedicated volunteering. A close friend volunteers for a local PBS affiliate. Started helping on pledge nights and has since been trained as a camera person, lighting director, sound tech. She does it all. Ended up getting a job in law enforcement booking crooks. Good money, stressful and interesting.

Look at your local government jobs listings. There are all kinds of jobs in local government. Look at the requirements. What skills are they asking for?

The thing is, you have to start doing the research. Learn about what's out there. I retired from a government job I loved. I started in my 40s, was taking some computer classes and found I could get a government internship even as an adult. The internship was my in. I worked hard, made my self useful, learned the system, and finally got a permanent job. You have to apply yourself, focus, learn what you have to do, and don't be afraid to ask questions. You say you are spacey. Reserve that for your off times. It's time to get serious about focusing on something that will move you forward.

Good luck. I hope that you shared with us is giving you some ideas for action.

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by Anonymousreply 97February 13, 2021 3:41 AM

OP, here's a link to Indeed.com. You can store your resume online, tailor your search to part or full time, and you'll get emails frequently listing jobs.

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by Anonymousreply 98February 13, 2021 3:42 AM

[quote] Damn, you idiots -- can't anyone on DL spot an Extremely Silly Tale anymore?

That’s not what EST stands for, you tedious creature.

by Anonymousreply 99February 13, 2021 3:44 AM

I agree with R97.

by Anonymousreply 100February 13, 2021 3:44 AM

R97 Yeah, I've been thinking about trying to work in a local library.

by Anonymousreply 101February 13, 2021 3:46 AM

I'm also considering UX Design, Publishing, Copywriting, Librarianship and of course art therapy, but I'd need to take 7 credits of studio art and then there'd be a 2 year master program (if I could get into it)

by Anonymousreply 102February 13, 2021 3:51 AM

OP lives in an imaginary world. She's lazy and doesn't want to work

She just wants to know how she can get money ($2 million) by doing absolutely nothing at all. So do not reply about jobs or schooling

by Anonymousreply 103February 13, 2021 3:53 AM

R97 and R98 You are an Angel, do you know that?

by Anonymousreply 104February 13, 2021 3:54 AM

R103 I actually was going to write a comment thanking people for giving me a reality check. I agree that I've been living in an imaginary world and it's embarrassing and stupid and I'm trying to change.

So I do appreciate the input and have been thinking about some things. I'm actually talking to a librarian about librarianship tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 105February 13, 2021 3:55 AM

OP a lot of us send you good vibes. Absorb them, and use that energy to whip yourself into shape.

by Anonymousreply 106February 13, 2021 3:55 AM

R106 Thank you <3

by Anonymousreply 107February 13, 2021 3:56 AM

I think becoming a librarian is the best option out of those you listed.

The thing about being an art therapist is that you haven't been doing art in many years. You will be competing against real artists who are going into the therapy field.

by Anonymousreply 108February 13, 2021 3:58 AM

R103 That’s harsh. OP is being honest about her thresholds and getting great advice. Who are you to say that something won’t click for her and that she won’t follow through on one of the suggestions?

Besides, she’s not the only one feeling the way she is, as some have admitted already, and so, the advice others are sharing isn’t a waste.

by Anonymousreply 109February 13, 2021 3:58 AM

I will post the quote again because it’s so true to life and I love it:

[bold]The tiny seed knew that in order to grow it needed to be dropped in dirt, covered in darkness, and struggle to reach the light.[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 110February 13, 2021 3:59 AM

R108 Art therapists don't need to be great artists, art therapy is kind of its own special blend of art and psychology. The issue is that I'd need to take lots of "post bac" art courses to get into a program. So yeah, it would be a long and expensive process.

Social work is an option too but MSW work is pretty grueling.

I kind of want a fairly relaxed job where I can pursue hobbies outside of work

by Anonymousreply 111February 13, 2021 4:01 AM

OP, another thing to remember, you have a degree, which is amazing. You may not have it in the field you prefer and you may feel you didn’t do your best to earn it but [italic]you earned it[/italic] and no one can take it or that away. It also says something about your ability to complete and accomplish something.

by Anonymousreply 112February 13, 2021 4:04 AM

R112 Thank you <3

by Anonymousreply 113February 13, 2021 4:05 AM

Op, you have lots of dreams, but it only starts with one step. Pick something that will get you on the path and start your journey.

I know people who didn't get their Masters until their 50s. Once your in a field getting further education only makes you all the better. Even once I got my permanent government job I took a work related class each semester for about 7 years. I surprised even myself. I had years of brain fog before focusing but once I found a spot and I kept learning I gained great confidence. After some really challenging struggles I began to fell there wasn't anything I couldn't do.

Don't care about what other people think. It's your one and only life, live it for yourself. Put yourself first. Not that you can't be kind, but take care of yourself, don't cave to the opinions of others. Grow your strength.

by Anonymousreply 114February 13, 2021 4:06 AM

R109 Thanks for being kind <3

by Anonymousreply 115February 13, 2021 4:14 AM

R110 kinda corny but cute!

by Anonymousreply 116February 13, 2021 4:23 AM

[quote]I just kind of thought I'd be rescued somehow. I was pretty and attractive guys thought I was pretty & sweet and I thought that I could just marry one of them.I want someone to adopt me -OP

A lesbian who want to live in the age of chivalry.

So basically you are a lezbo who wants to take advantage of men, not women, while you give them nothing in return. Got it.

by Anonymousreply 117February 13, 2021 4:47 AM

I know a person who has OP’s dream life. For a while, they had been paid rather a lot for sitting around doing next to nothing in a big company that had since been made redundant by recent advancement of technology. This person I know was smart enough to get a (tiny) place to live and has some investments that generate a small income, but their life is a miserable, talking-to-your-TV kind of existence where all they do is reminisce about the perks of being affiliated to their former workplace. Beware of your dreams, OP.

by Anonymousreply 118February 13, 2021 4:52 AM

OP seems very much like every gay man's female friend ever.

Occupies hours and hours crying on your shoulder and soliciting total reinforcement and advice which she never uses.

Then vanishes when she gets some romantic attention. (OP admits she wants someone to basically adopt her, which as a female, she totally can do.)

by Anonymousreply 119February 13, 2021 4:53 AM

R119 but i'm most likely a lesbian so probably wont be adopted

-op

by Anonymousreply 120February 13, 2021 4:59 AM

Oh please, OP/R120.

If you wanted to be part of a lesbian couple, you could be paired off within weeks and you know it.

by Anonymousreply 121February 13, 2021 5:02 AM

Are you sure you're lesbian?

You talk a lot about men--and which men found you attractive or would be your escorting clients--but you have made no mention of ever having a girlfriend or how any women interacted with you.

Do you think you're asexual?

by Anonymousreply 122February 13, 2021 5:20 AM

This must be a Lesbian thing. I have a much older Lesbian friend who was once straight, had kids etc. She got divorced 30 years ago and came out. But even today with a female partner of 20 years, she dreams of the day she could meat a rich 80 year old man who would marry her so he could die off fast and leave her all his money. She's not joking, she literally talks about that dream.

What's up with wanting to use men but still remaining a lesbian?

by Anonymousreply 123February 13, 2021 5:27 AM

Hi OP! I get you. I also floated along and made bad decisions, and one of those was getting a degree in ART THERAPY! I only worked in it for a year because I was living by myself and lonely. Then I moved back in with my mom and got a job at a mall and am currently without a career.

I like the librarian idea. There's a nice dude that works at a nearby library, my husband and I have commented about how funny he is. My husband says that that is a government job so you'd get good benefits and a pension. See, I didn't know anything about things like that when I was younger. I just went through school without really having a plan. I think most people don't understand the kind of shyness you have. I was probably just as shy. I was lucky to make some good friends in college who helped me to become a semi-normal person. And actually, working in retail helped me a lot because I had to look people in the face and talk to them.

So are you a lesbian? Do you want to be rescued by a man or a woman? If either, be skinny (I think you said you lost weight) and wear makeup. You should definitely put yourself in a situation where you are with people your age. You need to fall into a group so you have people to go to bars with so you meet potential love partners. (If covid gets under control).

You are not the only shy fuckup in the world, because I am one too. Please don't hurt yourself.

by Anonymousreply 124February 13, 2021 5:28 AM

[quote]she dreams of the day she could meat a rich 80 year old man

:shudder: Chiiile...

by Anonymousreply 125February 13, 2021 5:30 AM

Women are more prone to being bisexual than men are, R123, and I would venture that the revenge fantasy of using men as men have used women for centuries can be powerful.

However—OP seems to want to be used like those women from antiquity. She doesn't want to do the work necessary to support herself and live on her own.

by Anonymousreply 126February 13, 2021 5:32 AM

Library jobs can be competitive. A good way to find out it's a good fit it to volunteer at a library. Work hard and be reliable and when jobs open up you might have a bit of an edge.

by Anonymousreply 127February 13, 2021 5:32 AM

I have never met a lesbian whose dream was to marry an old man. Or any man, for that matter.

by Anonymousreply 128February 13, 2021 5:34 AM

It's for the money R128. But funny she would never do that to a wealthy woman.

by Anonymousreply 129February 13, 2021 5:39 AM

R122 So I've never felt any kind of sexual or romantic attraction to a guy. I never daydreamed of guys when I was younger or anything like that. I did have really intense sexual chemistry with a high school female friend but we never acted on it lol. It's the only time I felt that shaking attraction feeling

by Anonymousreply 130February 13, 2021 5:39 AM

R129 I guess I feel like a wealthy woman would be more likely to want someone who's independently wealthy or very successful/cool. Guys aren't as picky lmao

by Anonymousreply 131February 13, 2021 5:40 AM

Have you ever had sex, OP? Since you are aspiring to be an escort you might want to start volunteering, that could give you an edge if there is a job opening.

by Anonymousreply 132February 13, 2021 5:50 AM

R124 Thank you for such a kind comment, MeKiki! Still working on losing weight (I had gained a lot tbh). The issue with the library thing is that the only viable volunteer opportunity would be in the suburb I live in, which doesn't have a lot of young people. Library work is super super saturated in NYC.

I guess I could do something like get a paralegal certificate and work in the city. I don't think I'd like that job though but idk.

by Anonymousreply 133February 13, 2021 5:53 AM

I'm not sure becoming an escort is ever the best idea. Keep noodling on that one. Librarian sounds about right. Maybe just go to the library and sit there for a while and see how it feels.

by Anonymousreply 134February 13, 2021 5:59 AM

OP, your life sounds extremely similar to mine, except I'm a good ten years older than you. Last year, I started therapy for the first time, and now I'm able to see how much I ruminated (obsessed) over all my faults, and that decreased my self confidence, leading to more rumination. It was a vicious circle.

See if you can get therapy. If you can't do that right away, check out the book "Feeling Good" by David Burns. If you have Amazon Prime, you can read it free online. Especially read the section about "cognitive distortions". This will help you understand some of the common thinking traps we fall into, without even realizing it.

How about this career path. You can take art classes at a community college. The fees will be low, and the art studio will likely have all the same supplies as the closest university. Because you already have a bachelor's degree, you can earn an associates degree quickly without having to complete the general studies requirements. Because you'll be taking courses you enjoy, you'll could end up with a very high GPA. Also, you could make friends in the art courses. Also, maybe the school has a club for LGBT students. Find a way to volunteer. Make a good impression on your professors because you're going to need them in your next steps.

Apply for a masters degree in counseling or psychology. Note: a lot of people go into that field because they're looking to heal themselves.

by Anonymousreply 135February 13, 2021 6:01 AM

I don't think you'll appreciate my comment but I feel compelled to tell you that wanting easy money and an easy life are recipes for disaster and self-contempt. Think about what motivates you--what gives you energy. Also, think about what you could do to help others--art therapy is about helping others, so that must motivate you on some level. Did you want to work with children? The happiest people I know have done useful work that improves/d the lives of other people.

by Anonymousreply 136February 13, 2021 6:03 AM

R136 I appreciate your comment. So true. Just doing something small for someone in need that appreciates it is so rewarding.

by Anonymousreply 137February 13, 2021 6:06 AM

Good luck, OP. My life changed around at about 28 and got gradually better.

No one is having the great time you might think they are.

by Anonymousreply 138February 13, 2021 6:13 AM

If you've only felt sexual attraction once in your life--I don't think you're a lesbian. You might be asexual.

by Anonymousreply 139February 13, 2021 6:32 AM

R139 Hmm maybe but I've always been so deep in my head that I'm really an odd case

by Anonymousreply 140February 13, 2021 10:26 AM

I would like to make an unorthodox suggestion. - Tony Robbins: I'm not your Guru. Seriously. Not a fan, used to make fun of him actually, thought he was a bit OTT, unhinged, whatever. But I just subscribed to Netflix a few weeks ago and out of sheer curiosity clicked on this bizarre feature and .....um...I just highly recommend you get your hands on this movie feature sooner rather than later.

Tease: Tony goes deep, deep deep into various people's psyche and extracts inner demons or blockages and that person is transformed. Sounds very textbook crank but it is not. Couldn't stop watching...."intervention" after "intervention" just leaves you (the audience) kind of exhausted, yet incredibly amazing and energized. I am going to recommend you watch the entire movie but there's a 20 something year old woman/daughter who appears with this very innocuous, innocent, "problem" of "life issue" and within seconds, Robbins uncovers deep-seated issues affecting her entire life. Must be seen. You won't waste your time, I guarantee.

Again, not a Robbins fan. Not a troll. Not a shill.

by Anonymousreply 141February 13, 2021 11:35 AM

R141 Not op but I’m curious now!

by Anonymousreply 142February 13, 2021 1:33 PM

R141 I watched a bit but Tony Robbins just strikes me as a creepy sociopath tbh

-OP

by Anonymousreply 143February 13, 2021 3:07 PM

Does anyone want to be my friend/confidant? Please?

-OP

by Anonymousreply 144February 13, 2021 4:02 PM

OP you are either a troll or seriously in need of a psychiatrist (zero shame in that BTW). If you are beautiful (which you say you are) then glam it up and enjoy that. Hell, my roommate is depressive but when you are a female and good looking there is power. Just put yourself nicely together and go out. Forget those who say you are weird. We are all a bit kooky.

by Anonymousreply 145February 13, 2021 4:37 PM

[quote] Hmm maybe but I've always been so deep in my head that I'm really an odd case

No, your not. Stop trying to be some imaginary tv character. Stop trying to label yourself as "something". You're just an average, unremarkable person, like the rest of us

Go do some volunteer work and stop thinking all about yourself

by Anonymousreply 146February 13, 2021 5:13 PM

If you can’t yet bring yourself to get out into the world and volunteer, endeavor to fill every waking moment with reading, TV, video games, etc. — anything to keep from thinking only about yourself all damn day.

You would benefit from living an unexamined life for a while.

by Anonymousreply 147February 13, 2021 5:22 PM

R145 Even people who are artists call me an oddball lol

by Anonymousreply 148February 13, 2021 5:39 PM

[quote]Tony goes deep, deep deep into various people's psyche and extracts inner demons or blockages and that person is transformed. Sounds very textbook crank but it is not.

Datalounge is full of big fat dummies these days.

Robbins is a con man and the movie was staged.

by Anonymousreply 149February 13, 2021 5:44 PM

Working with the public is demanding, OP, (the Librarian idea) Even working in an academic library is not without stress. You can't hide away in some office, you have to be out there, front of house, so to speak. Helping people can be feel good but can also be pretty tiring.

Read "The Choice" by Edith Eger.

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by Anonymousreply 150February 13, 2021 6:25 PM

OP I am an INFP too. 38, just moved back in with my mom. I...understand your struggle. This hits close to home. 30 is young but the 30s go by extremely fast so I would go into Art Therapy if I were you but start now. I may have to enter the health field and I am not happy about it but I am 38 and need money sorely. Good Luck, and just know there are some of us out here that intricately know your pain.

by Anonymousreply 151February 13, 2021 6:54 PM

R151 To go into art therapy I'll need to take like, 7 studio art courses unfortunately

by Anonymousreply 152February 13, 2021 7:32 PM

R151 Do you think being a social worker would be that bad?

by Anonymousreply 153February 13, 2021 7:41 PM

OP is a terrible candidate for social work. Social Workers have their feet on the ground and are very brass-tacks.

by Anonymousreply 154February 13, 2021 7:49 PM

I'm not understanding all the suggestions to become a therapist or social worker. You have to get your life together, to some degree, before you hang your shingle to help others.

by Anonymousreply 155February 13, 2021 8:03 PM

R154 Many social workers struggle with issues of their own.

My neighbor is a social worker and she's encouraging me to do a MSW

by Anonymousreply 156February 13, 2021 8:17 PM

I disagree with your neighbor.

by Anonymousreply 157February 13, 2021 8:19 PM

R157 Then what should I do?

by Anonymousreply 158February 13, 2021 8:33 PM

Get a job and keep it. Get a shrink who isn't warehousing you. Tell the shrink your primary objective is to keep a job and make a few social contacts and establish a friend or two. Do this for 2 years and then reevaluate. You are living in dreamland and a very extended adolescence.

by Anonymousreply 159February 13, 2021 8:35 PM

R159 I'd rather kill myself

by Anonymousreply 160February 13, 2021 8:39 PM

oh, brother.

by Anonymousreply 161February 13, 2021 8:39 PM

R161 How am I supposed to move forward with my life in a dead end job?

by Anonymousreply 162February 13, 2021 8:43 PM

I know, keep dreaming about a great job with no skills for holding a job whatsoever. That would sure move you forward in life. Certainly worked miracles in your 20s.

by Anonymousreply 163February 13, 2021 8:48 PM

A secret you seem to be ignorant of is that there are plenty of people who are somewhat content in their lives despite a "deadend" or mundane job. This is because a good life is about attitude, once the basics are taken care of.

by Anonymousreply 164February 13, 2021 8:49 PM

Get Medical Help (pills for depression). Also stop this fucking poor me attitude and grow up. Go work at a store like Safeway or Walmart and stock up groceries or work as a janitor at a high school that should be a wake up call about how shitty life can be. Pretty soon you will not take life for granted and grow a spine.

by Anonymousreply 165February 13, 2021 8:52 PM

I have Ivy and fancy European degrees and have had great jobs but I live in mostly working class buildings in Switzerland and Egypt. Many of my neighbors work "deadend" jobs and some of them manage to be delightful and charming. You can find the good in relationships in any job, usually. There is also the integrity of work, which inherently is a productive contribution to society.

by Anonymousreply 166February 13, 2021 8:52 PM

Let’s focus on what you have going for you: a degree from Vassar. What do you have your degree in; was it English Lit?

How about working with people who can’t read or teaching people English?

by Anonymousreply 167February 13, 2021 8:55 PM

Here’s a good thread for you to read.

“I’m fucking depressed...”

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by Anonymousreply 168February 13, 2021 8:58 PM

I hate getting stuck. Have you tried metamucil?

by Anonymousreply 169February 13, 2021 9:07 PM

How do you become "theoretically" interested in art and art history? What does that mean?

by Anonymousreply 170February 13, 2021 9:15 PM

Poser is what it means.

by Anonymousreply 171February 13, 2021 9:26 PM

R170 It means that I thought I would find a husband or partner in college/get rescued and study those things in my free time without the pressure.

I know, it's completely delusional. That's how I thought about things, sadly. I was kind of living in a blur and surrounded by trust fund kids and fellow students who didn't work that hard. I think it was a combination of being coddled, being spacey/a daydreamer, and not having any fun in high school so I kind of did my version of going crazy basically.

by Anonymousreply 172February 13, 2021 9:34 PM

My very rich friends at fancy schools went on to marry within their strata (overwhelmingly), or they married bootstrappers with dynamite looks and demonstrable careers - e.g. attractive successful meritocrats. Did you not pick up on this dynamic at Vassar and post graduation? You fantasy was extra deluded as it was outdated by half a century.

by Anonymousreply 173February 13, 2021 9:45 PM

That's because OP is a 50-year-old man.

by Anonymousreply 174February 13, 2021 9:46 PM

He would have to be a 70+ year old man to have this tired stereotype of the Ivy and Seven Sisters dynamic.

by Anonymousreply 175February 13, 2021 9:50 PM

Forget art therapy. Social work seems a miserable profession (as a MD I have worked with so many angry. bitter social workers).

To be competitive in the library profession, you need a masters in library science. Look into that. If you are in NY, focus your search on SUNY schools.

I originally planned to go into social work. Thank god I love science and went to a top university where I graduated Phi Beta kappa. I work 20 hours/week as a MD and live a somewhat modest and happy life.

And definitely get on some meds. Are you ADHD? Maybe try Provigil/modafinil for motivation. You can get that online from India without a prescription.

by Anonymousreply 176February 13, 2021 9:53 PM

You need to enroll in a counseling or art therapy class, asap. You probably need to have some prerequisites to get into a master's program. So find out what the prerq class is and take that class?

Also, you need to get on medication for your depression, asap.

Talk therapy is fine. Support is fine. Know that these things do not change your life externally at all. It sounds like you like art therapy. So if this is true, taking this class will be helpful.

No body can take away your degree. You already successful received that degree. Focus on the class and MEDICATION right now.

by Anonymousreply 177February 13, 2021 10:06 PM

Social work is a fucking nightmare, do not do that to yourself.

by Anonymousreply 178February 13, 2021 10:11 PM

R175 There was a guy who said he basically would support me. I think that fed into my toxic delusions

by Anonymousreply 179February 13, 2021 10:18 PM

R177 Yeah I would literally need to take like 7 studio art classes. Unfortunately there is no singular art therapy class that I could take

by Anonymousreply 180February 13, 2021 10:19 PM

R178 I think most jobs are probably nightmares honestly lol

by Anonymousreply 181February 13, 2021 10:22 PM

[quote] It means that I thought I would find a husband or partner in college/get rescued and study those things in my free time without the pressure.

Another thing no lesbian has ever said.

You remind me so much of a girl I went to college with--except she was REALLY funny and witty. People overlooked how needy she was because she was fun to be around--and also, didn't want to selfishly talk only about herself 100% of the time. But she had these same sort of issues of asking other people what they thought she should do with her life, and then turning down all good advice.

We've given you the best advice we've got. What more do you want from us?

by Anonymousreply 182February 13, 2021 10:46 PM

Dear OP you Darling Georgia Peach, with your Vassar degree, your ambitious grit to be an art therapist you above all are more than qualified to be an amazing escort. Just act like the depressed frigid sad dry down there loser that you are. Charge top dollar though. A loser lesbian like you sleeping with these men is just hot and in great demand. I would strongly suggest that you start your escorting with a diverse rich clientele............Gary Busey and Randy Quaid would be a great start. Finally the grand prize for you is Donald Trump 👏 👍 I sincerely hope you get your $2 million dollars. People especially straight guys can't wait to spend their hard earned money on a escort who is a depressed wannabe art therapist lazy ass lesbian but in a nutshell 💦💤👎THE BIGGEST LOSER 🥲

by Anonymousreply 183February 13, 2021 10:57 PM

R182 No one's forcing you to continue responding... I already hate myself

by Anonymousreply 184February 13, 2021 11:12 PM

Tbh it sounds like you're not really thinking clearly at all right now. I think you should get medically and mentally evaluated first, because going from "loner lesbian" to "paid escort" screams manic behaviour me.

by Anonymousreply 185February 13, 2021 11:14 PM

Don’t be a social worker. If you think you’re depressed NOW...

I’m sorry about your mom.

Perhaps you can do something with animals.

by Anonymousreply 186February 13, 2021 11:15 PM

You need therapy, hon. On-going, and perhaps anti-depressants.

One sign that you're stuck is asking advice from strangers. You've got to take the risk to get close to one other human being and open up. Intimacy with one other leads to intimacy with self.

People with self-hatred don't want to reveal themselves.

by Anonymousreply 187February 13, 2021 11:15 PM

Can we take a look at your tits? 🤷🏻‍♂️

by Anonymousreply 188February 13, 2021 11:18 PM

R186 I've thought about becoming a vet tech but I feel like I wouldn't be able to support myself.

by Anonymousreply 189February 13, 2021 11:21 PM

R188 Nah, they look bad

-OP

by Anonymousreply 190February 13, 2021 11:21 PM

Medicated and sleepwalking is not what the rest of them were doing. What was your diagnosis at the time? How much do you drink/smoke weed? You sound stoned.

by Anonymousreply 191February 13, 2021 11:25 PM

R191 I think you have the wrong thread

by Anonymousreply 192February 13, 2021 11:27 PM

OP, I can't be your friend because I'm too old now. But you DO need a group to hang out with once the covid gets under control. What do you do that is weird? I've always been weird but after high school where I was completely alone (no friends, no dates) I've always found people who wanted to hang out.

You do kind of have to figure out if you're gay or straight. I don't know, maybe you don't. But keep dieting (I'm dieting now too), because you seem like you want to attract a mate of some sort. Do you want to have children?

Do you have medical insurance? That seems to be the main reason to get a job at this point (and to make friends, or at least semi-friends to go places with). Otherwise you can start making money selling stuff on ebay or Poshmark. That's kind of fun.

by Anonymousreply 193February 13, 2021 11:35 PM

Also, why the heck Art Therapy? Like I said, I know something about it.

by Anonymousreply 194February 13, 2021 11:37 PM

R193 Thanks MeKiki, I do have Medicaid right now.

And with regard to art therapy, I just like the idea of it, I feel like it would be a more relaxing way to help people. Certainly a lot less daunting than a MSW!

by Anonymousreply 195February 13, 2021 11:40 PM

Someone, anyone please help OP. I think she should set up an escort page on LinkedIn.

by Anonymousreply 196February 13, 2021 11:45 PM

Art Therapy might work for you, I don't know. I went to an art school for college so I needed more psychology classes. I took those the summer between college and grad school. I would think you could blow through some art classes in a year. I graduated from art therapy school over 25 years ago. My biggest problem with it was that nobody seemed to take it seriously, and I felt like I'd always have to be proving myself. Then I really messed up and got stuck in retail. Things are probably really different now. A lot of really dippy gals were in my program, in hindsight. I think a Vassar grad would blow everyone away. You're used to studying and writing, but a lot of these gals were not. Also, what everyone is saying here is true. People who go into those professions (anything to do with psychology) are mental messes. I was not prepared for that. I'm a mental mess but I'm not generally mean to other people (someone once described me as the type that takes things out on myself, not those around me). At the end of the two years, very few of us were still speaking to each other.

by Anonymousreply 197February 13, 2021 11:52 PM

Am convinced OP is a troll, not worth the time. All help offered is met with "yes but." Nothing OP has said is true or worth our time.

by Anonymousreply 198February 14, 2021 12:22 AM

Being an art therapist would be a great way to give back to other people. You'd have to work under supervision of another therapist for a couple of years while you're earning your license, but then you could open your own practice, set your own hours, and set your own fees.

Your 30s is a great age to go back to school, and you'll likely meet friends who will be your future peers. I remember an Ann Landers column where a letter writer asked Ann Landers if he was too old to go back to school to get a certain type of degree because he'd be X age when he graduated. And responded, "how old will you be then if you don't go back to school?"

by Anonymousreply 199February 14, 2021 12:27 AM

R198 Definitely not a troll. Wish I was!

by Anonymousreply 200February 14, 2021 12:30 AM

[quote] Definitely not a troll. Wish I was!

But you are, Blanche.

You are.

by Anonymousreply 201February 14, 2021 12:39 AM

OP, you graduated around the age of 22? What did you work since then? Was there never a job you liked a little bit?

by Anonymousreply 202February 14, 2021 12:53 AM

R202 It's a disaster.. I took an extra semester to graduate so I was technically 23 and then I just went home and helped take care of my mom who was very sick with Alzheimers' for a number of years. So I've never really had a real job apart from one year where I did a public health thing. Which is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 203February 14, 2021 12:57 AM

Were you friends with Alex AKA Sasha Velour?

by Anonymousreply 204February 14, 2021 1:18 AM

Eric Liu?

by Anonymousreply 205February 14, 2021 1:21 AM

OP, how did you get into college? You must have been trying for something at that point. Did you have friends in college?

by Anonymousreply 206February 14, 2021 1:26 AM

R206 Yeah, I had a few friends. I worked really really hard in high school.

by Anonymousreply 207February 14, 2021 1:31 AM

OP, are any of your friends nearby? Are they all married or partnered?

Are you feeling any better?

by Anonymousreply 208February 14, 2021 1:34 AM

R208 I don't really have friends. However, I reconnected with one of them and will chat with her tomorrow.

Honestly my feelings change all the time, I can go from suicidal to at-peace and trying to be constructive within the same minute

by Anonymousreply 209February 14, 2021 1:49 AM

R208 Thank you for being so caring.

by Anonymousreply 210February 14, 2021 1:53 AM

R209 Cyclothymia, perhaps?

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by Anonymousreply 211February 14, 2021 1:53 AM

R211 Maybe. Although I think anyone in my situation would be like this, quite frankly.

by Anonymousreply 212February 14, 2021 1:57 AM

OP, do you have nice feet? There are tons of guys into women's feet. You can make money that way.

by Anonymousreply 213February 14, 2021 2:20 AM

[quote] Although I think anyone in my situation would be like this, quite frankly.

No, they wouldn't.

by Anonymousreply 214February 14, 2021 2:23 AM

OP, don't become a sex worker. I'm your age and I just moved back home due to a bad PTSD episode--sex work only worsened my already fragile mental state. If you are hellbent on entering the industry, try OnlyFans, by don't expect to make any money because the market is very saturated.

by Anonymousreply 215February 14, 2021 2:23 AM

R215 Is 30 too old to become a sex worker?

by Anonymousreply 216February 14, 2021 2:41 AM

OP, if your dream job is to be married to some guy who will take care of you, then it follows that you should approach it as a job search. Did you confuse DL with a dating website or do you expect DLers to write your personal ad? With your alleged good looks and Vassar degree you could maybe try to make it as an egg donor and a surrogate for some wealthy gay couple, but you need to tone down the suicide talk and it probably won’t pay as much as you’d like (but that’s the case with any job that was discussed on this thread, so you will need to manage your expectations).

by Anonymousreply 217February 14, 2021 3:48 AM

The only people who imagine they are tv characters and live in imaginary world are schizophrenics

by Anonymousreply 218February 14, 2021 4:10 AM

R218 Yeah, that's a good point but I'm apparently not schizophrenic, just crazy

by Anonymousreply 219February 14, 2021 4:16 AM

Mary! I'm slightly younger, but I related to the OP's story (prestigious college, depression and feeling stuck, realizing that I'm probably a lesbian). I'm still struggling, but I'm in a better place now than I was right out of college. Meds and therapy helped, as did taking concrete steps towards the things that I fantasized about. Stewing in my unhappiness about lost opportunities did absolutely nothing, quelle surprise.

Also, I want to give the benefit of the doubt, but I second the comments about the plausibility of a lesbian considering a boob job and sex work.

by Anonymousreply 220February 14, 2021 5:15 AM

R220 Honestly I'm just lazy af and if I need to get a boob job to make lots of money, I'm fine with that.

by Anonymousreply 221February 14, 2021 4:18 PM

[quote] Honestly I'm just lazy af and if I need to get a boob job to make lots of money, I'm fine with that.

Honestly, I think this is a bullshit thread.

One last post from me, in case this is real--

Get your thyroid, iron, and vitamin levels checked.

by Anonymousreply 222February 14, 2021 5:57 PM

I have been reading DL for years. Two things struck me about this stupid crazy thread. One, you DL'rs are some of the most big-hearted, helpful folks ever - just repeating yourselves over and over to help OP. Two, OP has been wasting your time. She feels great getting all your kind thoughts and suggestions and is the kind of person who wants to play verbal ping-pong with you for years!

You've done enough here. I can't believe I wasted this time reading all these posts. Being a great listener, I have known way way too many people like this.

by Anonymousreply 223February 14, 2021 6:03 PM

Stop finding excuses why you can't do something - anything - & start finding ways around those potential difficulties, OP. If you wall off every possible avenue with "but but but" you'll be looking at nothing except walls & continue spinning in this naval-gazing funk. You have to start moving, kiddo. No deus ex machina is coming to save you.

by Anonymousreply 224February 14, 2021 6:04 PM

[quote] Two, OP has been wasting your time. She feels great getting all your kind thoughts and suggestions and is the kind of person who wants to play verbal ping-pong with you for years!

Truth.

by Anonymousreply 225February 14, 2021 6:08 PM

Jesus Christ. If real, OP is a total sink of despair, down wh anyone helpful and misled enuff to respond will throw buckets of counsel, just to hear her say, no i dont wanna do that, no i cant do that...we had a few passthru AA around here, it's useless, they want your attention but give back nothing but despair and more depression. These need meds, reality therapy., a job. Then the bored overgrown kind who plays people. cant tell from this end which this is, but its ALL USELESS. FUCK YOU OP, stepping off a chair is quick and relatively painless. mind how you anchor the rope.

by Anonymousreply 226February 14, 2021 6:09 PM

OP, have you thought of nude modelling? Most art therapists get started as nude models for art classes. A good way to get started and you don't even have to talk to anyone.

by Anonymousreply 227February 14, 2021 6:10 PM

Thanimus ain't playin'.

by Anonymousreply 228February 14, 2021 6:11 PM

Sorry you're in such a painful quandry, OP.

I didn't read the entire thread but you are only 30. You have tons of time to make it happen for you in a satisfying way. Don't beat yourself up because you aren't there yet.

Have you thought about any possibilities of working at or volunteering at art related places like a museum or gallery or historical society? That gets you in the area and interacting with people in the arts. Obviously Covid may delay such activities but maybe not - maybe they need young people now to replace those older more vulnerables. All those places may have or could develop art therapy programs either in house or as an outreach program. Think outside the box. Explore online. If this is down time for you use this time to make this topic your rabbit hole.

Good luck, OP.

PS Stop the ridiculous sex work/prostitution talk. That's just larping.

by Anonymousreply 229February 14, 2021 6:14 PM

I miss the days where one can just move to Hollywood and become a street whore.

by Anonymousreply 230February 14, 2021 6:15 PM

OP is useless and my aquarium fish have more value in life. To think all this nice useful feedback and here is this cunt not taking any. She stinks of playing the victimhood with a narcist bend. I hope you rot in hell you fucking Bitch. OP You are not worthy to lick dogshit.

by Anonymousreply 231February 14, 2021 7:30 PM

R224 Thank you, I agree

-OP

by Anonymousreply 232February 14, 2021 7:42 PM

Blah blah blah.

Me me me me me.

You oughta. You oughta. You oughta.

Poor puppy. Poor puppy. Poor puppy.

Me too. Me too. Me too.

Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo.

More! More! More! More!

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME.

Repeat.

by Anonymousreply 233February 14, 2021 7:53 PM

R233 I already have professional help but thanks

by Anonymousreply 234February 14, 2021 7:56 PM

In case OP is not a troll. Get over the whole "I am too weird even for weirdos" whine. I have met ALL kinds of people and since you are capable of graduating college, signing onto DL and writing coherent sentences you are not "too weird". Lazy absolutely, but there is a peer group for you. You can find a compatible group by searching online. Even if you join a sex workers group for how to's that is enough. No one is going take care of you unless you offer them something in return. I suspect you revel in being stuck so maybe that is all you get in life.

by Anonymousreply 235February 14, 2021 8:06 PM

Hello

This is a message for OP. I am Blair Swinton, Deputy Director of Development and Alumni Relations at Vassar College. Please contact me at your earliest convenience. The good news is that we have refunded to your father the 340K of his hard earned money that you wasted, with nothing to show for the excellent and esteemed liberal education that has been at the core of Vassar College's mission for over 150 years. The bad news its that we have reminded your Bachelor Degree, effective immediately.

We wish you every success in your future endeavors. We hear that Walmart in Wappinger's Falls is hiring.

Sincerely,

BBSwinton

CC: Chief Counsel, Vassar Office of Legal Affairs

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by Anonymousreply 236February 14, 2021 8:35 PM

rescinded! RESCINDED.

OK just kidding OP, dear, but go do something and get out of your mind, which seems like a dreary place to hang out. Worse than Poughkeepsie!

by Anonymousreply 237February 14, 2021 8:40 PM

R237 lol thanks blair

by Anonymousreply 238February 14, 2021 8:55 PM

Some of you bitches are brutal and may have more severe mental health issues than op.

by Anonymousreply 239February 14, 2021 9:11 PM

R239 Thanks but I doubt it.

-OP

by Anonymousreply 240February 14, 2021 10:54 PM

If you don't like the road you're on, pave another one.

by Anonymousreply 241February 15, 2021 4:20 AM

Op, I am mentally ill myself, and think of killing myself every day. I do not project my ‘woe is me’ bullshit upon the world. You have been given good advice. I have had similar advice given to me in the past. There is nothing left for anyone to say. You have to decide what path you are going to take. Your neediness is annoying. Choose to fight, or don’t. It is your decision. Random Internet strangers aren’t going to make that decision for you. We can’t make you want to fight to save yourself. No one can do that but you.

by Anonymousreply 242February 15, 2021 4:28 AM

You should join a cult, become a Mormon have a man you rarely have to fuck take care of you while you teach art therapy to his brood and fuck the other wives.

Have you ever taken Ehrhardt Seminar Training?

by Anonymousreply 243February 15, 2021 4:38 AM

R243 has a point. It would be so easy (assuming you are Caucasian) to move to Utah and get picked up as a 5th wife. This could really work well if you are into women. Maybe you can have a relationship with wife 4. If you don’t click, you can go out and meet wife 6. Recruit her into your little cult, make her your secret wife, and you are all golden! You live for free, and get to have a hot secret wife.

by Anonymousreply 244February 15, 2021 4:45 AM

OP, how are you holding up? Also, has any of the advice you’ve been offered resonated with you?

by Anonymousreply 245February 15, 2021 6:54 AM

R245 I am doing ok, lots of ups and downs though and beating myself up still.

If anyone wants to talk to me, I made an email address: singingforbirds@mail.com

by Anonymousreply 246February 15, 2021 12:31 PM

R246 Was OP (me)

by Anonymousreply 247February 15, 2021 12:44 PM

Stop ruminating over your life and actually do something. You’re wasting years asking for advice and approval like a needy, coddled child. Lose weight, get plastic surgery, and get a job.

by Anonymousreply 248February 15, 2021 12:47 PM

Actually if people want to email me they can do so at wembleton739@gmail.com

-OP

by Anonymousreply 249February 15, 2021 12:52 PM

R246 Make a list of 3-10 things that you admire about yourself or that make you proud.

Also, make a list of 3-10 things you want to change about yourself or that you would like to learn to do/be.

Sometimes it helps getting some of these personal goals out of your head and down on paper, where you can see, review, and even modify them if need be.

Start going for brisk walks for both physical fitness and to clear your mind. Also, for the endorphins, I.e., natural antidepressants.

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by Anonymousreply 250February 15, 2021 1:27 PM

[quote]You have tons of time to make it happen for you in a satisfying way.

Not really, r229. As another poster pointed out, the 30s go by in a flash. I can vouch for that. One minute I was 33, then the next minute, horrified to be turning 40. That aside, I was the one who recommended Tony Robbins. Regardless of his own 'sociopathic' tendencies, forget the marketing, he at least explores the concept of what holds people back. That was my point. Sometimes, people need to be jolted into taking action. You are essentially selling yourself on line under the guise of seeking advice - talk about a defeatist attitude.

by Anonymousreply 251February 15, 2021 1:45 PM

R250 Thank you for your kind, concrete suggestions <3 <3 <3

by Anonymousreply 252February 15, 2021 6:18 PM

R250. Yes, well done.

by Anonymousreply 253February 15, 2021 8:48 PM

R227 ?????

by Anonymousreply 254February 16, 2021 6:57 PM

Got a suggestion for you--thinking outside the box here.

Do you know that you can hire a virtual assistant in India for $5 an hour. For 150 per month, which is nothing, you could talk to someone about your day (or whatever) for one hour every day who is being paid to listen to you (but not at therapists' rates). You clearly need an ear, but you're going to have trouble finding friends because you're so needy, selfish, and annoying.

by Anonymousreply 255February 16, 2021 7:59 PM

Good news, I may have snagged a full time job at my local library. However, I'm concerned about being stuck in my home town forever so still considering other options.

by Anonymousreply 256February 16, 2021 9:16 PM

R256 Chiiile....

by Anonymousreply 257February 17, 2021 12:43 AM

Agree with 257. Take the job, for god's sake.

by Anonymousreply 258February 17, 2021 1:05 AM

R256 P.S. Remind yourself that it may very well be a stepping stone, i.e., you won’t be stuck there forever if you don’t want to be. You do, however, have to start somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 259February 17, 2021 1:09 AM

R256 Thanks. I'm also considering potentially going into PR

by Anonymousreply 260February 17, 2021 1:14 AM

Jesus Fucking Christ, take the library job. Tomorrow. Pick up the phone and accept the job. Don't think it over any more, because you'll be stuck in imaginary land.

Taking the job will hopefully wake you up and bring you to reality. You'll meet people, and you'll have something to say at the end of the day other than "I hung out in my room."

I've had jobs where almost everyone there was 20-30 years older than me, and they were wonderful people.

Please, I am begging you, take this fucking job. Do it for your father, so he can have hope.

Here's the thing-you don't have one perfect way forward. You just have to start moving. Don't worry annoy what others will think. Hell, you're too quirky and unique to care about opinions.

Also, look into maladaptive daydreaming. You may be suffering from it.

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by Anonymousreply 261February 17, 2021 2:21 AM

So help me God if one of you emails this person and offers money, I will lose my shit.

OP, how did you find DL?

As others have said upthread, not working is not actually a dream life. Humans are not built that way, otherwise you'd be on cloud nine right now, prancing through years of not working.

Humans need accomplishment, even minor ones, to feel satisfied and maintain good mental health. A life spent avoiding work is asking for trouble mentally.

Also, you are not unique in your inability to launch. There are many online groups for peer support for NEETs.

No one is fixing this for you, because you aren't in a fairy tale. You are extremely fortunate to have a kind father willing to support you while you make your initial efforts. There are thousands in your position without the benefits you have at your disposal.

Please, think of your parents. What did they do to pay for Vassar, and you want to repay those efforts by becoming a sex worker because you're too good to do traditional jobs?

I do wish you'd give us your therapist's email, because I'd like to send then some wine. I have a piercing headache from listening to you talk in circles and deny reality. I can only imagine how they've suffered.

Please. Take the advice here. We want to see you do better. Or if you are fictional, make up an ending that will let us feel relief.

by Anonymousreply 262February 17, 2021 2:36 AM

Consider prayer and/or meditation. I don’t give a fuck if you consider either to be “woo woo” or “a belief in magic.” They [italic]will[/italic] work.

by Anonymousreply 263February 17, 2021 2:56 AM

Gonna make a million dollars.

I wanna live on by the sea.

Have a husband and some children.

Yeah, I guess I want a family.

I'm your private dancer,

dancer for money,

do what you want me to do.

by Anonymousreply 264February 17, 2021 3:10 AM

Your life is over

by Anonymousreply 265February 17, 2021 3:41 AM

R292 Thank you, I actually haven't been offered the job yet, it's just tentative. The librarian has a connection to my dad.

And yes, I agree that I suffer from maladaptive daydreaming

by Anonymousreply 266February 17, 2021 4:07 AM

R292 Honestly I feel like not working is the dream life for some. It really depends on one's personality

-OP

by Anonymousreply 267February 17, 2021 4:08 AM

I'm looking into that "personal blessing" Prince Charles had done on PEI,for you. Besides ECT & chemical castration, really don't know what the hell is gonna FIX you. Lord knows and so do you, gave it my all. Almost 6 years ago, gave up. Self preservation.

by Anonymousreply 268February 17, 2021 4:18 AM

R262 No one has emailed me, let alone offered me money :(

by Anonymousreply 269February 17, 2021 4:22 AM

OP, please take the library job. You will meet lots of people and you will get asked out.

by Anonymousreply 270February 17, 2021 4:35 AM

R270 I'm not sure if I'll get officially hired... I'm being considered first for it but my resume was kind of a wreck. Also I'm a bit fat, But thanks for the encouragement <3

by Anonymousreply 271February 17, 2021 4:59 AM

With all due respect, Ma'am, I've got problems of my own.

by Anonymousreply 272February 17, 2021 5:17 AM

R56 - we all are, at this point, stuck and want to get out more. Take a job going out somewhere honey. I am ready to quit believe me.

R57 - don't assume that she is not a lesbian if she says she is. I have exactly two openly lesbian women at work. One is exactly like OP - hides in the house, hates everything and everyone, always HUGE drama and blames it all on being openly gay in Romania. The other is the polar opposite in that she's totally extroverted, great conversationalist, is well regarded for her good nature, sick of being in the house because she is great with people and charming and just an overall lovely person. Sexuality doesn't determine personality.

by Anonymousreply 273February 17, 2021 8:05 AM

Romania guy, you should write a book about your ex-patriot experiences when you get back. Your stories, when they pop up in threads, are hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 274February 17, 2021 9:18 AM

R264 😂🤣😂🤣

by Anonymousreply 275February 17, 2021 12:15 PM

R272 🤣

by Anonymousreply 276February 17, 2021 12:15 PM

R274 Suggest a story/thread. I’m curious now.

by Anonymousreply 277February 17, 2021 12:17 PM

Listen to this on repeat.

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by Anonymousreply 278February 17, 2021 12:57 PM

R278 Ok I"ll try

-OP

by Anonymousreply 279February 17, 2021 2:57 PM

You're doing remarkably well on your own but this seminar will change your life.

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by Anonymousreply 280February 17, 2021 4:25 PM

Does anyone have a recommendation for a teletherapy therapist?

-OP

by Anonymousreply 281February 17, 2021 11:13 PM

Can someone google chat with me please? wembleton739@gmail.com

-OP

by Anonymousreply 282February 18, 2021 12:33 AM

OP, you are needier than a chihuahua (and not nearly as cute).

by Anonymousreply 283February 18, 2021 11:51 AM

R283 I know... :/

by Anonymousreply 284February 18, 2021 5:24 PM

Did you do the exercise suggested 100 posts ago? I thought not. Done anything for others, I thought not. You'll never make a choice about anything because that would mean eliminating other choices and you like to have all your options open because you're daddies little girl and you're special.

Lazy and entitled waiting for your inheritance, why not make a plan to off your father. Or, you could combine all your previously mentioned career choices into one. ONLYFANS. Make a room with all your art supplies and books and beanie bags and shit and tell your fans, you'll stick anything they see in the room up your fat ass. WWW. Illstickanythingupmyass.com

You'll have men give you money and tell you what to do but you wont have to touch them. It's very similar to public relations which you've really thought about considering strongly both the positives AND the negatives before deciding to do nothing.

by Anonymousreply 285February 18, 2021 5:36 PM

R285 Thanks for the suggestion

by Anonymousreply 286February 18, 2021 6:53 PM

R285, hon, don't make me come over there

by Anonymousreply 287February 18, 2021 7:05 PM

Someone please adopt me.

-OP

by Anonymousreply 288February 18, 2021 7:09 PM

Bitch, you're 30. You still have time.

Let go of the hem of your dress and get up and LIVE. Do something, anything, that YOU want to do.

by Anonymousreply 289February 18, 2021 7:10 PM

R289 Easier to just kill myself.

by Anonymousreply 290February 18, 2021 7:15 PM

Killing yourself will emotionally destroy your father. He'll spend the rest of his life wrestling with what he could have done differently.

Trying is better than plunging your father into a living nightmare.

Try something, anything.

If you are looking for people to private message you, you'll have better luck on reddit.

by Anonymousreply 291February 18, 2021 8:02 PM

R291 I know that it will. I'm extremely self-absorbed though right now, and I basically have no motivation whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 292February 18, 2021 8:17 PM

R292, butyouwere always this way. Nothing has changed except for the fact that you're aging out. Aging is a gift for a select few. You're not in that pool

No potential. That's the core of your matter.

Never wanna have to think about you but you're obsessed w/me & hacking my devices/accounts

One of many of your victims

Tidy up the place cause I'm gonna be showing up w/police for a welfare check. And RUDY! is waiting right outside your door

RUDY!!!

by Anonymousreply 293February 18, 2021 9:15 PM

r292. On the contrary, you are extremely motivated to complain and take from others. R250 gave good advice which you agreed with. Did you follow it?

by Anonymousreply 294February 18, 2021 9:26 PM

R294 I did. The problem is that I don't like anything about myself and the things that I'd change are partly things I can't change

by Anonymousreply 295February 19, 2021 1:02 AM

Maybe you can get one of the lightbulbs for seasonal affective disorder?

by Anonymousreply 296February 19, 2021 2:50 AM

OP = You lost me when you used the word LESBIAN........Can gay men have NOTHING to ourselves?

by Anonymousreply 297February 19, 2021 2:53 AM

Depression lies to you.

Here's some wisdom from the "Feeling Good" book, which I highly recommend-no one ever said you have to feel like doing something in order to do it.

Some small steps can help break you out of this mindset you're stuck in.

I promise you, no one would be doing well sitting inside all day, dependent on their father for support and without a social life. Your circumstances ARE changeable, no matter what how your brain lies to you.

Get the Feeling Good book and workbook. Follow up on the library gig.

You are a physically healthy 30 year old with a degree from Vassar. This is hardly starting over from square one. Fuck where your peers are and what they're doing. Comparison is the thief of joy. Your life isn't turning out the way you wanted, well join the massive club.

You have the capability to change your life. Don't waste it.

by Anonymousreply 298February 19, 2021 2:59 AM

OP, I still don't understand what's so bad about you that makes you not like yourself. Tell us the bad stuff. I know a lot of the guys here are mad about your lack of motivation and not taking advice, but you still might end up taking someone's advice. But now I want to hear the bad stuff.

by Anonymousreply 299February 19, 2021 3:41 AM

op you only have one life so do whatever makes you happy, even if it is nothing. Don't worry about other people's judgements, they're probably just jealous anyway because they're up at the crack of dawn everyday to schlepp off to some job they hate while you get to do nothing all day.

by Anonymousreply 300February 19, 2021 9:34 AM

I posted this in the thread about depression I linked to upthread and it applies to you:

I, too, know from experience and from battling the transfixing allure and pernicious tentacles of the dark lovers known as self-pity and blame, and of their devouring offspring, dejection, that in order to transcend all three, we must be willing to identify and admit when and where in our lives we willingly collude with them in futile attempts to avoid the pain and strain requisite for all true growth, strength, and healing. At the risk of sounding too esoteric, blame, self-pity, and dejection are extremely shrewd demons, but we aren’t dimwitted angels either. We invite them in.

We collude with them all of the time in order to feel better about ourselves, and when they bite back – bite the hand that feeds them – we shrink and demure as if held prisoner by them. We deny that we engage and utilize their putrid qualities for our own comfort and self-assurance. We pity ourselves when we do not get what we want or think we deserve, failing to mention or even notice that these attitudes, in and of themselves, reek of greed and envy, the progenitors of self-pity and the cause of much pain and harm to ourselves and to others.

We blame – the child of pride and wrath – others for our problems, and even have the audacity to blame others for not meeting our standards, for not being “good enough,” i.e., we judge, criticize, and size people up by their looks, intelligence, behavior, possessions, or lack thereof, and so on. We even turn blame, like a rabid animal, on ourselves. When dejection weighs down on us like a big black pile of messy id, we claim innocence and stupidity, hide in its shadow, and deny that we oversaw the fornication of its parents, self-pity and blame, and of its birth and emergence within ourselves. Sometimes, once born, we revel in dejection too, making use of it for pity from others, and as an excuse to remain slothful and unchanged and at worst, downright malignant.

It is said, rightfully so, that getting anywhere in this life - earning a higher education, acquiring a good job, amassing money in the bank, and securing all of the perks and prerequisites of life – requires hard work; well, so does becoming a fully integrated, conscious, and conscientious human being. Becoming whole, healthy, and secure with oneself, and building up the muscles of faith (in oneself and if you choose, something greater), humility, empathy, charity, and love (for oneself, those closest to us, and strangers alike) – the muscles that help us break through the chains of self-pity, blame, and dejection – requires strain, pain, and diligence.

Again, at the risk of sounding too esoteric or, God forbid, religious, this was the point of Christ’s life and crucifixion; to provide a template for transcendent love, charity, sacrifice, and forgiveness. What the Catholics and Protestants get wrong is that they hope and assume that “Christ did it for us.” Ha! He didn’t ask to be worshipped; he asked to be imitated. (He was clear in his distinction between himself and the Ineffable.) When He quoted Torah (Leviticus 19:18), Christ made it clear that we are to treat others as we want to be treated. He also made it clear that we are to take up our own crosses and crucify the basest parts of ourselves, and that doing so requires journeying, often arduously and rigorously, on the “narrow path” that leads to transcendence. But enough about religion, as I know it incites anger in many of you. You get the point, which is also promulgated by all of the great world religions – Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and yes, even Islam - especially their mystics. (Note: This is one thing that I deeply admire about Buddhism: you are not so much instructed to “believe in” Buddha as much as you are counseled to do as Buddha instructed and to refine your view of the world as being comprised of illusions, both beautiful and deadly.)

by Anonymousreply 301February 19, 2021 4:14 PM

cont’d.

Humility is about accepting Truth, with a capital T. Here’s a simple truth(s) for you: There will ALWAYS be someone “better” than you; better looking, better off physically, intellectually, emotionally, financially, circumstantially, and the list goes on. You can either accept that fact or spend your life trying to deny and outrun it. Denial and escapism, however, will only lead you back to self-pity, blame, dejection, and even addiction, though not always to drugs or alcohol. (We can become just as addicted to anger, depression, judgement, materialism, and myriad other attitudes, mindsets, and things.)

Another Truth: You desire to be loved, accepted, comforted, and forgiven for intentional and unintentional slights and trespasses. Knowing this, you should be willing to do the same no matter how challenging, uncomfortable, or painful doing so proves to be.

A final truth: You will never know why things happen as they do, nor the reason for every single person’s behavior, either toward you or toward others, so stop wondering and asking why. Focus on yourself, on becoming the best person you can be.

Faith starts with and in yourself. There is no religion that will provide you with the faith that you cannot give to and have in yourself. (“The kingdom of God is within.”) Faith is a choice and at times even a skill; it is not something you are born with nor something you acquire from someone or something else. Faith the “size of a mustard seed,” however, is worth more than a pound of gold.

by Anonymousreply 302February 19, 2021 4:15 PM

R299 I've honestly become so selfish that I don't really care about anyone but myself. I want to measure up to the people I went to school with. I want to be perceived as a success. I tried reaching out on linkedin to a couple of people I used to know and they didn't respond.

by Anonymousreply 303February 19, 2021 5:12 PM

R303 I love you, op, so I hope you take this in the right spirit: [bold]WAKE THE FUCK UP[/bold].

It is time to put the fire under your own ass. I was listening to this song off my favorite album and thought of you as I belted out the lyrics and played air piano (I play, too) while driving down I-95 like an emancipated bullet.

Listen to it and to the entire album, if you can. It’s about facing your own darkness and self-destructiveness and doing something about it. Nobody else is going to save and get you out of this but you, love.

Sending you good vibes and sincerely praying for you.

[quote] Muhammad my friend / It's time to tell the world / We both know it was a girl / Back in Bethlehem / And on that fateful day / When she was crucified / She wore Shiseido Red / And we drank tea by her side

[quote]Sweet sweet / Used to be so sweet to me

[quote]Muhammad my friend / I'm getting very scared / Teach me how to love / My brothers who don't know the law / And what about the deal / On the flying trapeze / Got a peanut butter hand / But honey do drop in / At the Dew Drop Inn

[quote]Sweet sweet / Between the boys and the bees

[quote]Moses I know / I know you've seen the fire / But you've never seen fire / Until you've seen Pele blow / And I've never seen light / But I sure have seen gold / And Gladys save a place for me on your grapevine / Till I get my own TV show / Ashre ashre ashre ashre / And if I lose my Cracker Jacks at the tidal wave / I got a place in the Pope's rubber robe

[quote]Muhammad my friend / It's time to tell the world / We both know it was a girl / Back in Bethlehem

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by Anonymousreply 304February 19, 2021 6:35 PM

Do you get out of the house everyday? Do you go for at least a one hour walk everyday for your health and to get some D (natural anti-depressant) on your skin?

by Anonymousreply 305February 19, 2021 7:04 PM

[quote] I want to measure up to the people I went to school with.

You will never, ever, ever be happy with this approach.

You are not them, you are YOU. Stop letting others define your success.

by Anonymousreply 306February 19, 2021 7:05 PM

R305 Yeah, I walk my dog everyday. I live in NY so it's been snowy and cloudy lately :(

by Anonymousreply 307February 19, 2021 9:34 PM

You walk for an hour everyday?

(Or just a quick outside for a poop-pee from the dog?)

by Anonymousreply 308February 19, 2021 9:45 PM

OP,

If I were to tell you right now that you had one year to live--that on Feb 19, 2022, you'd be a goner, what would you spend the year doing? What would be the thing that you would do to make this time on earth meaningful for you?

by Anonymousreply 309February 19, 2021 10:16 PM

R308 No, I just do a 20 min walk around the block with my dog

by Anonymousreply 310February 19, 2021 10:16 PM

R309 Probably daydreaming, reading and painting... I don't really do reading and painting out of anxiety though because I always feel ike I should be doing somehting else

by Anonymousreply 311February 19, 2021 10:17 PM

Do you speak any other languages? Do you know enough about art history to be a professional in that field--regardless of credentials?

Are you well-written? (You were an english major.) Do you enjoy writing?

by Anonymousreply 312February 19, 2021 10:29 PM

R312 No, I don't speak any other languages. And no, unfortunately art history is mainly a daydream

I don't write a lot but I like it, I guess

by Anonymousreply 313February 19, 2021 10:41 PM

I don't know if you'll understand this, but what you want and what you're willing to do to get what you want are totally out of sync.

People with no credentials can get into the art world if they work hard and are obsessed. (I know a few people who work in art galleries because the art market is big business here because of Art Basel--but they know art, and they speak a few languages. When I lived abroad, I knew two art historians--PhDs--that worked in museums.)

My advice to you is to pick a job that matches your commitment level. Being a librarian may sound like a dead-end or unspectacular to you, but your drive is unspectacular. That might change with time--but this is where you are right now.

You can only start where you are. This obsession you have with MOMA and some people you knew a decade ago isn't helping with anything. In fact, it seems to make you miserable. Try to find habits that don't make you miserable.

by Anonymousreply 314February 19, 2021 10:56 PM

R314 Yep, I understand it. When I was at school I was so isolated all the time that the anxiety made it hard to even finish my papers. I just totally self-sabotaged.

I guess I like to live in a dream world and the dissonance of the dream world and reality is very painful and disconcerting. The dream world is pleasant but it's having to acknowledge that it's not based on reality that is very difficult.

Basically I flick through people's instagrams and linkedins all day and live vicariously through them

by Anonymousreply 315February 19, 2021 11:05 PM

R315, I kid you not, the woman I know that you most remind me of just accepted a full-time position as a librarian. (She had worked there part-time for a few years. I thought it was a community college, but it's a real college.) She has a BA, not a masters, and she's 42.

Also sort of in her own world--reads and posts about (crappy) historical fiction, dresses up in Renaissance clothes and goes to fairs and re-enactments. She's happy being in a library and doing her weird stuff in her own time.

That's another thing--the art world is not a world for people who need a lot of free time. The work, especially when shows, exhibitions, potential buyers, etc are coming, is high-stress, 16 hours per day.

Find something--like I said--that suits your personality and your commitment to working (and overworking).

by Anonymousreply 316February 19, 2021 11:11 PM

R316 Thank you although in my mind I have much more of a hipster aesthetic TBH. I'm very interested in contemporary art although I haven't pursued it at all.

I want to be around likeminded people who are creative and thoughtful and have highbrow taste. So that's the issue I'm having here.

by Anonymousreply 317February 19, 2021 11:15 PM

[quote] I want to be around likeminded people who are creative and thoughtful and have highbrow taste.

You are not creative, thoughtful, or a person of highbrow taste.

You want to be around people who would not recognize you as a peer.

So to answer your 'issue": either become one of those people (through hard work) OR change you expectations because you're not going to fulfill them.

I gave it my best shot.

Good luck

by Anonymousreply 318February 19, 2021 11:18 PM

R318 One of the coolest girls said I was her "dream girl" back in college because I was chic.

Thanks, I get what you're saying and my unwillingness to choose is what has me so stuck.

by Anonymousreply 319February 19, 2021 11:28 PM

Her name is Lola, she was a showgirl

But that was thirty years ago, when they used to have a show

Now it's a disco, but not for Lola

Still in dress she used to wear

Faded feathers in her hair

She sits there so refined, and drinks herself half-blind

She lost her youth and she lost her Tony

Now she's lost her mind

by Anonymousreply 320February 19, 2021 11:39 PM

R320 Probably true. I have great cheekbones too

-OP

by Anonymousreply 321February 19, 2021 11:46 PM

R316 Is your renaissance friend married?

by Anonymousreply 322February 20, 2021 1:10 AM

R322, single. I actually met her on a dating site--very much NOT my type.

But for a particular type of gal, would be a good fit.

by Anonymousreply 323February 20, 2021 1:54 AM

R323 is she in westchester, ny? lol

by Anonymousreply 324February 20, 2021 2:28 PM

I talked to an old high school friend. It was nice but she was honest about how she doesn't really want a friendship with someone who's floundering so much... she only wants friends that have full lives

-OP

by Anonymousreply 325February 20, 2021 7:09 PM

R154

You are correct, OP should not become a social worker. You need a lot of emotional strength and compassion to support fragile clients.

OP, I feel you need to accept yourself where you are. Get a job as a receptionist for a non-profit whose cause you believe in. I bet you'll meet lots of nice people.

As far as your artistic dreams, keep them, but it takes a lot of effort to become an artist who is successful. You seem like the sort of person who needs to take baby steps, so you could succeed, but it may be later in life.

by Anonymousreply 326February 20, 2021 8:54 PM

Or, OP, you could be a scammer. You could go to art openings at galleries and PRETEND that you're cool and in the know. Sleep with some people and live a glamorous life. And tell us about it, because my life is kind of boring now.

I used to have a friend who was a dreamer, even more than I am. She was too much of a dreamer though, so her writing wasn't good (she could never get to the point and would add in details that didn't mean anything).

by Anonymousreply 327February 20, 2021 10:24 PM

OP, you want to be involved in the arts.

A question: Do you want to create art, or do you genuinely love art and want to spend your life around it, or do you want people to think of you as arty because you think that's cool, or do you just want to avoid the kind of soul-crushing job that most people get stuck with?

The thing is, I doubt you were meant to be a creative artist, because if you were you'd be disappointing your dad by painting or writing whatever or improvising on the piano for hours and hours a day, instead of looking for a job. Being a creative artist isn't really a matter of training, artists in many fields can be self-taught, it seems to require a strong need to make music/art/poetry/whatever... plus the drive to hustle and sell whatever it is you create. You have to start with that, and use your education in the arts to refine your visions and skills, rather than hoping art class will make something happen. That, or you need to be born with a trust fun, and be free to potter around and call yourself an "artist" instead of doing anything useful.

The thing is, I tried to be an artist, I'm a good painter, and I used to work all day at a crap job I hated, and come home and paint and paint and paint. I got offers from some local galleries, but I realized that I just didn't have enough hustle to push sales at galleries or spend my weekends manning a booth at the outdoor art shows, and when you came right down to it I really didn't want to be a commercial artist and paint what dickheads told me to paint... I really just wanted to please myself. So I eventually went to nursing school and it's given my life a whole other level of meaning, but that's another story.

by Anonymousreply 328February 21, 2021 4:10 AM

R328 I honestly thought that no one was interested in anything and they just got to a certain place where someone could take care of them. I clearly had some type of depersonalization going on.

by Anonymousreply 329February 22, 2021 3:58 AM

R329, that makes no sense.

Day drinking, are you?

by Anonymousreply 330February 22, 2021 1:34 PM

R330 I know that makes no sense. I don't know why I was so crazy. No, never drank and never smoked weed or anything

by Anonymousreply 331February 22, 2021 4:07 PM

You don't have a disassociative disorder, you just don't know how to cope with a situation in which there are no good options. And no, today's job market isn't offering any good options, all a person can do is pick the bad option that's most likely to lead to a good option in the future.

This isn't the horrific mental illness you hope it is, because having a mental illness would allow you to put off the question of your future and just be taken care of. No, this is just real life.

by Anonymousreply 332February 23, 2021 1:30 AM

R332 That's true

-OP

by Anonymousreply 333February 23, 2021 4:39 PM

You sound like you came from a privileged background (East coast college, great Dad) and are now feeling guilty that you're not living up to it.

Most dreams in life take a lot of hard work and sacrifice and that means daily pain.

OTOH, if you relax your standards you might enjoy life more. It's up to you.

by Anonymousreply 334February 23, 2021 11:00 PM

R334 Yeah, to some degree that's correct.

Thanks for your insight. I agree, I shouldn't have to suffer all the time just to go nowhere

by Anonymousreply 335February 23, 2021 11:39 PM

R335

You would SO benefit from studying intuition and your internal voice. You DO have an internal guidance system. Find out why you're here.

Then listen to your inner voice step by step. You are overthinking things, and replaying the past. What would you LOVE to do in life? Just do that and see what happens and to hell with everyone else's opinion.

by Anonymousreply 336February 23, 2021 11:47 PM

R336 I'd like to play music, make art and sing

-OP

by Anonymousreply 337February 24, 2021 12:11 AM

Have you considered volunteering? Your privileged background has wrapped you in a cocoon of self importance. Look for creative ways to help others.

by Anonymousreply 338February 24, 2021 12:15 AM

[quote][R336] I'd like to play music, make art and sing

Then DO that. Don't keep giving reasons why you can't.

Or go. The fuck. Away.

by Anonymousreply 339February 24, 2021 2:49 AM

R339 no one forced you to comment

by Anonymousreply 340February 24, 2021 3:58 AM

For that matter, no one invited OP to deluge us with her personal problems.

by Anonymousreply 341February 24, 2021 4:31 AM

You're a lost cause.better people know better to off themselves, ya load

Even Bjork's stalker

by Anonymousreply 342February 24, 2021 5:06 AM

Any advice on how to find an engineer to marry?

by Anonymousreply 343February 24, 2021 4:17 PM

Why are you depressed? Is it because you’re gay? Why don’t you transition? Is that what gays and lesbians do today? Transition?

by Anonymousreply 344February 24, 2021 4:28 PM

I can't believe this thread is up to 344 replies.

by Anonymousreply 345February 24, 2021 4:33 PM

OP, there is plenty of advise here. Please take some of it and stop whining. Only you can help yourself.

by Anonymousreply 346February 24, 2021 4:34 PM

To find an engineer to marry you have to lose weight and probably wear makeup. You need coronavirus to end so you can go out. You need a piddly job with people your own age so you can go out to bars and not seem like a weirdo by yourself. You could try the dating sites, I would do that if I were single now. But do your best to look pretty, that's the thing.

Focus on the losing weight and wearing makeup, and then finding a mate at age 30 will not be that difficult.

by Anonymousreply 347February 24, 2021 5:42 PM

R347 I think I'm actually just going to be genuine and try to date women. It looks like I got the job at the library but I don't know anyone in the area so it will be lonely.

-OP

by Anonymousreply 348February 27, 2021 9:46 PM

Help me please

by Anonymousreply 349March 1, 2021 10:31 PM

R349, what's going on? Are you OP?

by Anonymousreply 350March 2, 2021 3:14 AM

We've already given as much "help" as anonymous online strangers can give. We can't make you happy or give self-confidence from this distance, only time and changes can do that. It's up to you, OP, to read what has been said to you, and act on it, and no. We can't act for you, at some point you just have to take a leap into the unknown on your own initiative, and adapt to whatever you find when you land.

However, congrats if you took a library job! It's a great brave positive step if it happens! And yes, everyone starting a new career in a new area is lonely, but do your best to (safely) meet people, and if you find yourself with time on your hands use to be "creative". take some art or music classes, when you can. See who you meet there.

by Anonymousreply 351March 2, 2021 3:23 AM

This sounds corny, but if you try serving/helping other people less fortunate than yourself, a lot of your depression may go away.

Just try it. And some medication.

by Anonymousreply 352March 2, 2021 1:38 PM

R352 that may be true.

by Anonymousreply 353March 2, 2021 10:18 PM

Don't mean to be intrusive, but how are you doing OP?

by Anonymousreply 354April 10, 2021 3:35 PM

R354 Thank you for asking and caring. I'm doing ok with ups and downs. Still working at the library and unsure about my future.

by Anonymousreply 355June 20, 2021 9:23 PM

OMG! You're only 30! From your introduction, it seems like you already know yourself pretty well. Start working with that knowledge.

by Anonymousreply 356June 20, 2021 9:54 PM

Have you thought about just moving to a cult like commune in India or something?

by Anonymousreply 357June 20, 2021 10:01 PM
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