J'adore Paris

Did they kill him off? Haven't watched Y&R since last year...

What a waste.

Tyler looks smelly and greasy. Glad they dumped him.

I like how Abby accepted a marriage proposal from one actor and then went on a honeymoon with a different one.

SURPRISE!!!

I still don't understand why Jack didn't make some provision for Theo to receive more than a pen—a pen!—from Dina's estate. It does not correspond to his insistence that Jabottom treat Theo like the Equal Partner in Grandsonness that Jack promoted the last few months before Dina died. Idiot plotting, really.

R4, It's known as a cock swap.

R5 isn't Josh Griffith back as head writer? Expect a few more such "idiot plotlines."

Josh Griffith has been HW the entire time I've been watching again, r7. He's been a little dull, the storytelling a little ho-hum, but up to that point, he hadn't written anything that didn't have logic behind it. Jack's not coughing up something for Theo made no sense at all. It was completely inconsistent with the way he'd been treating Theo. I hope Theo walks away with millions.

Another thing: why is Victoria going after Phyllis this way after years of not really bothering with her? I haven't missed an episode since shortly after Mark Grossman first appeared as Spider, but I don't recall Victoria's hating Phyllis this much. No one likes Phyllis, I get that. I don't like Phyllis. But this seems extreme.

Is Vick losing her mind? Is she going to turn out to be the attempted killer?

Oh I thought he left when the Rosales story line flopped......I just noticed his name there a couple of weeks ago.

Mark Grossman's been there since the spring of 2019, r9, and that is when I began to watch again. Josh Griffith has been HW of every single episode.

Why hasn't busybody Katie blown the whistle on Sally yet to the Abbott family? She clearly has nothing better to do at the moment.

Katie?

[QUOTE] Why hasn't busybody Katie blown the whistle on Sally yet to the Abbott family? She clearly has nothing better to do at the moment.

I was thinking that too. Someone could have made the same comment subbing out Amber for “Sally” and Katherine for “the Abbott family” fourteen years ago.

They should have at least scripted a nice bookend to Theo's story that related back to its beginning, and ...

As the plane to Paris is about to takeoff, bisexual Theo is seen drinking champagne in first class. He smirks a bit, then sends a video from his phone, releasing the secret sextape from New York wherein JaBottom is screaming, "HARDER! FASTER! DEEPER!"

And, of course, this video immediately goes viral.

R9 The creation of The Rosales Family and their subsequent flop was a Mal Young thing. They even tried to bring in another Brit, Daran Little, as a story consultant. But it was already too late. And once they axed Mal, Daran was let go too. As I recall, it didn't take long for Griffith to jettison Arturo and Mia.

Mal Young was a disaster.

J'adore Paris ... Les Feux de l'Amour.

I've always been pretty impressed with the voice actors they use to dub the show.

JT is even sexier in French.

R5, Some of Dina's bath salts would have made a fine bequest.

R12 is creeping me out. BLOCKED!

I've never been a fan of Melissa Ordway as Abby Newman. Thought she was medicore at best, but usually rather dull.

However, in the past week since she's been acting opposite her husband, she seems to have a spark and a vitality I've never seen in her before. Found mysefl actually liking the actress for the first time. Consequently I'm suddenly liking the Abby-Chance pairing.

Show really needs to keep Justin Gaston as Chance and jettison Donny Boaz.

[QUOTE] Show really needs to keep Justin Gaston as Chance and jettison Donny Boaz.

I agree, but apparently, Donny Boaz is already back filming.

Since Boazzz started taping in late September 2019, he should probably have 26-week contract cycle coming up in late March. Play him a minimum till then (with a bag over his head), then give him his six-weeks notice in February. As a parting gift, they can tell him to go home early, and they'll maneuver a guest spot for him on some CBS prime time drama within the next year.

Justin Gaston used to stick his dick into Miley Cyrus.

Nooooo!!! NuChance is so much better!

R23 Right. She was 15 and he was 20. He was also living in her home.

How are people liking this temp chance? He's wooden as hell, and I don't mean that in a good way. I also couldn't tell him and Jordi Vilasuso apart in their scenes yesterday. I think one overly sculpted guy with a perpetual 5 o'clock shadow is enough.

And will Melissa Ordway please. stop. giggling.

[quote] he should probably have 26-week contract cycle coming up in late March.

Would he already be on a 26-week cycle just a year into his first contract?

I'd think he'd still be at 13 weeks at this point.

Gaston is a TERRIBLE actor. He’s nice looking and has a great bod but my god he has no stage presence. He always acts like he’s acting and that is a big NO. He memorized his lines but that’s about it. Bring back Boaz, even if hottie Alan Sarapa has a seizure! lolololololol

Boaz, Gaston and Ordway can all leave.

R27 As I indicated in the post, timewise Boaz has been on Y&R over a year now. (I don't know how the COVID hiatus may or may not have affected time/dates in contracts, though.)

I put forth the 26-week date - presuming that he's in his second year - and believe it's already too late to cut him at the 13-week date.

When Nia Peeples was cut, she said that if they're going to cut a contract actor at one of their cycle dates, then they have to give them six-weeks notice before that date. In her case, they flubbed the notification date, and that's why they had to bring her back (which for her - an experienced actress - was another 26-weeks).

Boaz-Chance rescued Abby for me. His awkwardness and his attractive-but- not-gorgeous-ness are very relatable to to me, and her reactions to it have made her less boring.

Why couldn't they have sent Kyle and Summer to Paris. Or to Syria for all I care. And let them take that skank Sally with them. Theo became a sympathetic character once they revealed his relationship to Dina, and they just pissed it away. He could be a proper antagonist for years, someone for Jack and Kyle to fight about until the day Jack dies, but no...

Kyle and Summer need to go.

Covid kept Dummer around. Recall, right before the virus hit, it had been announced that she'd been cast as the lead in a prime time TV pilot that sounded like a probable go. Then, everything got shut down, and now the daytime soaps are among the few things in production, so she's still with us.

R15 you are right. I'm sorry I forgot Mal Young's name......

Jabottom being the co-CEO of Jabot is one of the most hilarious things ever. Though I guess no less hilarious that Mariah being the head of marketing.

I don't like the actor playing Theo, but they should have kept the character in town to cause problems for Jabottom while Sally goes after Slummer.

My gosh - both Traci and Nine are very fat! Lay off the mac & cheese ladies.

That hottie (LOL) from Twitter Alan Sarapa is upset because Donnie Boaz dissed him. Alan is in love with Donnie but Donnie’s straight. Boo hoo hoo Alan, you fugly mess.

I just realized there hasn't been a Michael Muhney mention in ages.

NuFamily coming to Genoa.

Somehow two characters who's status is recurring doesn't sound like much a NuFamily.

Is one of them for Mariah?

^whose, not who's.

R40 They could possibly be connected to Hillary and Amanda.

Has the booby grabber won an oscar yet? His die hards kept telling him that he was too good for daytime and bigger and better things (including winning an Oscar) were ahead. Now, they are begging every remaining soap to hire him. lololololol

[quote]I just realized there hasn't been a Michael Muhney mention in ages.

Who?

You think? R42

Gaston never learned subtext. He’s terrible! Come back soon, Donnie!

[quote] They could possibly be connected to Hillary and Amanda.

It would be more fun if they were Victor's daughters from his "other family" in Chicago.

Melody Thomas Scott is peeved about her lack of airtime.

Maybe they can make Nicki the shooter. That might make her and that stupid storyline somewhat interesting.

The whole Phyllis vs. Bitchtoria story amounted to a big nothing thanks to Nick just waltzing in and buying out his sister.

Nikki should have another bite of Arturo's huge Cuban chorizo when he comes to town for Rey's wedding.

It was hot when Nikki chowed down on Arturo’s big uncut pinga! I was jealous.

Why don’t they show the lezzys anymore??? Did they get scared when Camryn came out as a big ole dyke?

Oh good Lord! The Billy Abbott - It's A Wonderful Life Episode was awful. We really must have pissed somebody off to make them inflict that on us.

Isn't it enough that we now must suffer with Sally Spectra-itis and Amanda-pox and the Alana virus?

God help us......I am about ready to give up.

7 years since titty grabber left the show.

So Johnny's going to grow up to have a crush on "uncle" Adam?

That could be hot.

I FF through all things Kyle-Summer-Sally.

I don't mind the Adam-Billy story. I wonder if Victoria shot Chance. Alyssa Montalvo seems red herringish, and Victoria could be going through a mental breakdown, given that shit she put Phyllis through all of a sudden.

REAL THEO IS BACK!

There was no reason to bring on Sally, a failed B&B reject. These soaps keep shooting themselves in the foot and making ridiculous decisions. Then they say, where did our audience go? Morons. Gimme my hot daddy Mikey Baldwin.

Who is "REAL THEO"?

OMG......I meant the real CHANCE is back...... Danny Boaz......

Justin Gaston was playing the role while Danny recovered from Covid.......

Theo went to Paris and I hope he stays there.

The Chancellor Mausoleum Christmas decorations looked lush. Too bad droopy Boazz is back.

I'm glad real Chance is back. I like him more with Abby than the other guy. I find Justin Gaston more attractive, but Donny Boaz made Abby watchable.

What are they doing to Victoria? Now she's weirding out over Billy and Lily? She could not have been more clear, and said so in enough episodes, that she and Billy are ovah! And now this? After her attempted destruction of Phyllis?

Don't worry about Cousin Theo.

I've already introduced him to a few of be best hook-up sites in the Paris Metro.

He seems to be enjoying the Algerian men.

[quote] but Donny Boaz made Abby watchable.

I feel just the opposite. Boredway was back to her old boring self today with Borazz.

WHAT? They replaced Justin Gaston??????? The hottie Alan Sarapa is jerking his dick.......

Boaz being back in the role today just served to cement the fact that Justin Gaston was so much better as Chance.

The writers have totally whiffed on some juicy potential stories lately - Theo vs. the Abbots, the Billy shooting, Victoria vs. Phyllis. And now we have...Sally doing something?

Stuff that could have gone on for years if it were still 1989, r67, esp. Theo v. the Abbotts.

How is this Sally character so beloved? You can spot her desperation from a mile away and I'm always wishing she would shut up. She's that person who tries way too hard.

With Kevin uncovering some secret next week, it sounds like they may finally be getting back to whatever Gloria was up to during her last visit. You know ...... TWO MONTHS AGO.

Great pacing. folks!

Sally’s a waste of space. And welcome back to Boaz! He’s so much better than Ordway’s can’t act for shit hubby. Gaston gave the worst performance by an actor this year. Acting isn’t his forte, that’s for sure.

Kevin discovers the secret of Michael's white hair.......

Does Kevin investigate whether or not Mikey is white “down there”?

R72 It's a buy-one, get-one 50% off Holiday sale at WIGYY

Why does someone on the other thread keep calling Faith "Little Miss Dolly Parton"?

What’s up with Theo’s pinky finger in Miss OP’s pix? How utterly nelly. Does he hold a tea cup like that?

Gosh, I always dress in a doofus hat, open cabana shirt and white jeans when at a street fight. So butch.

R75 Because "Faith" was cast as Dolly Parton in Dolly's prime time biio-pic, and "starstruck" Angela McDaniel insisted that Y&R accommodate her comings-and goings at all costs rather than recast this "hot commodity."

r75 Alyvia Alyn Lind, who plays Faith, also played young Dolly Parton on a TV movie.

Little Dolly Parton has always been annoying. They should have sorased the character years ago.

I don't mind Faith. I hate that she's turning into a juvenile delinquent. I guess addiction issues run in the family, though, what with Grandma Nikki being a big ol' drunk. I liked that Phyllis ratted her out.

I don't want her to be SORASed. Abby is already too old for me.

Poor little Faith. All that emotional drinking, just to avoid telling her parents that she's already transitioning.

I don’t mind them giving teen Faith more to do but the basis of the bullying story is stupid. There are far worse things that’s happened in that family than Adam kidnapping her as a baby. Why would her classmates care about that?

For such a smart kid, Faith's acting like a moron. She's gotten busted for drinking twice and now is gonna get dared to steal vodka from a restaurant. If she does that then it's official - she's as stupid as her father.

Breaking: Michael Muhney IN as Nu-Theo

The problem with Faith is that they sorased her cousin Reed over three years ago, yet Faith is still, what 13? .. Meanwhile, Twink Reed is going on 20. .. The two cousins were born less than two years apart and regularly shown growing up together.

I don't mind some soras-ing, but it should be consistent, especially within families where kids have been in the same "soap generation."

[quote] There are far worse things that’s happened in that family than Adam kidnapping her as a baby.

Yeah, and shouldn't that kisnapping story be balanced out with how Adam went on to save Faith's life in the tornado? .. lol!

I think a kid Faith's age would be more concerned about classmates gossiping about how her Mom had sex with and married her 90-year old grandpa. .. Or, how Grandma used to be a stripper and appeared in a porno. .. Anything sex-related would be a far more gossipy topic to classmates Faith's age than something about a kidnapping. .. There'd also be Aunt Vicki's centerfold, as well as Uncle Adam's documented homosex, and there might even be some made-up, animated gifs out there suggesting that The Wartman forced Faith's daddy to present hole in prison.

Calling Justin Gaston an 'actor' is a stretch. I see prior to this he was on DAYS before being let go after only 4 months. Anything interesting there or did they just realize he sucked? For DAYS that would be saying a lot.

R88 There was a rumor claiming that Justin refused to give up his ass to male higher up over there. They got mad. Then had him fired and eventually found someone who would give up their ass.

R89, Wasn't he replaced by a former "The Price is Right" model?

R25, Did Miley regularly rim Justin with that big ole tongue she's so proud of?

Justin Gaston goes naked for PETA . . .

Gaston is good looking but he can’t act for shit! He was terrible on Days and in the 5 or 6 years since then, he hasn’t improved at all. He was beyond terrible at Y&R. The worst thing you can say about an actor is when they act like they’re acting. Gaston is that person. His ‘acting’ is not natural. He acts like he’s acting. Nice to look at, but he’s not believable as an actor.

Yes R90.

At least Robert Scott Wilson can act. Gaston can’t.

Is Donny Boazz's mother is posting here now?

Is Gaston going to put himself up for the Guest Actor Emmy? lolololol Or maybe he should say fuck it and put himself in the Lead Actor category. Even more lololololololololololol

R96 At least Boaz has a job, unlike FUGLY Alan Sarapa, who thinks that he’s an influencer!!!!! The fucking idiot Sarapa thinks that he’s an influencer. lololololololol Oh my sides.

Alyssa shot Chance? Who the FUCK is Alyssa and why should we care?

Nobody, and we shouldn't R99 . This show is a dumpster fire.

Give me Chuck Pratt back. At least stuff happened.

I imagine the sudden appearance of Susan Dansby as story consultant and simultaneous disappearance of James Harmon Brown in the opening credits have something to do with the shutdown of the Theo and Alicia storylines. If so, I hope Susan hates Jabottom, Summer, and Sally as much as I do.

James Harmon Brown - that boob. I can't believe he's still working (or I guess was). That's soaps for you where as long as you have experience you keep getting hired. Doesn't matter that you suck. He and Barbara Esensten put their stamp of destruction on GL for three years under Rauch. Makes sense if he was responsible for Theo, he always excelled at writing sleazy and stupid.

R93 at least he looks like Rhodes and Bierdz and is age appropriate. Y and R isn’t Shakespeare. I don’t care if he’s not Daniel Day Lewis. Bill Bell had a motto. Hire eye candy and they will learn to act better. Boaz looks like Cast and but also looks as old as her.

Brown's name was removed from the associate writer position, but it looks like they could be throwing scripts his way, since he was still listed as a scriptwriter just last week.

R104 ITA .. And I wouldn't categorize Boaz as some kind of "outstanding" actor either. Competent, I suppose, but after a year, he's done little to impress and is generally quite forgettable, probably why I didn't miss him at all during his recent absence. .. It was the same sense I had when Ordway was gone for several weeks on her maternity leave - didn't miss her didn't, care if she came back.

Looks like "Tessa" (Cait Fairbanks) was back at the studio this week.

Pretty noticeable weight loss. Is she still dating that hot piece Zach Tinker?

Griffith had been ignoring the lezzys. We will not be ignored!

Tessa will announce that they are trans and will be now called TOM.

R107 Oh wow. She looks ill. Same with the Amanda actress.

[quote]James Harmon Brown - that boob. I can't believe he's still working (or I guess was).

He was back, actually, as yesterday's script writer.

Fairbanks and Tinker broke up awhile back. She was lucky to be getting his cock for awhile.

Please tell me that the writers are not going to inflict a Jack/Sally pairing on us.

Bringing Sally on for grampa Jack is a stupid move.

Merry Christmas my beauties! I hope that the holiday brings you good cheer. I will be dreaming of my 2021 Daytime Emmy Award For Outstanding Lead Actress In A Drama Series,

All my love, Scoche Marin, your favorite Katherine Shepherd Reynolds Chancellor Thurston Sterling Murphy

Merry Christmas bitches.

"Oh, what a sweet, lovely thought, Mamie.No."

The actress playing Sally always looks like she hasn't showered or shampooed in days.

After all this time I finally had to do it.....I had to block the Soche Martin troll.......I just couldn't take it.

I guess they've forgotten that Lily has any children. Lol.

Me too r119. Enough already.

R118 I'm thinking the hair crew must have a lot of the product left over that they used to use on Theo.

R120 Lily just mentioned in her gift-exchange scene with Billy that she's traveling to New York to spend Christmas with Maddie & Charlie.

Oh r123.

That tie clip and necklace were laughably hideous.

Does half the fucking town live at the Grand Phoenix?

R125 I was just going to ask that. .. And what's really laughable is that they're not even trying to make that one hotel room set they use look that different for all the residents who now live in it. .. This was really obvious in the two back-and-forth scenes we just got (the one with Lily-Billy vs. the other with Amanda-Devon) where even the same potted plant is sitting in the corner .. lol! .. The Grand Phoenix must be the Grand Holiday Inn.

I suppose they'd blame this on COVID, saying they're minimizing the number of sets they use and have a cleaning routine down pat for the ones they do employ.

Jason Thompson was looking hot as fuck sitting up in bed shirtless with his armpit hair on display.

Thompson must be working out just a little bit now, because he appeared noticeably not as scrawny as he used to be.

But instead of a pair of long boxer briefs, they should have put him in short trunks, so we could better determine, if his ass has some shape to it now as well.

Alan Sarapa, the HOTTIE from twitter, who thinks he’s an influencer (lololololol) thinks that HE is going to be the next Y&R headwriter. Stupid fuck.

I want what Sharon's havin' for Christmas.

Wait, the actress that plays Sharon is romantic with the actor that plays NuAdam? WTF?

R131 Where have you been? .. lol! .. They've been an item for well over a year now. As I recall, there had been some rumors coming via a fan event in Canada, but then they basically confirmed it when Mark posted this video on IG in September 2019.

Grossman is getting the Case snatch. Good for him. Bet her pussy tastes glorious. Mmmmmmm.

When they first started airing post-covid episodes, Sharon was seen being much closer physically to Adam than she was to Rey. It was because Sharon Case and Mark Grossman had been closer physically before covid started.

There was an early scene in which Rey wanted Adam to leave Sharon's house, but he (Rey) stayed over by the door while Sharon and Adam were much closer to each other physically, standing or sitting at one of the couches. It was confusing to look at, Rey not moving in closer to get in Adam's face (as it were) to throw him out.

Whenever I've seen that Christmas tree at R130 at Big Lots, I've always wondered who'd buy it.

Rey with any male gets me going. All that testosterone, oozing out.

That would explain why Sharon and Rey and zero chemistry.

Bring back the lezzys!!!!! Now.

Are we going to see another Birthday Suit campaign this summer?

"Bring back the lezzys!!!!! Now."

Bring back Carmine!!!!! Now.

Carmine Basco and Sheila Carter MIGHT save this shitshow.

Imagine if Lauren's dead lover and mortal enemy showed up together?

Only bring back Sheila if it is a recast and not that crazy avocado farmer who hired illegals and paid them shit. Kunterlin is done. Too many viewers hate the actress after all the shit that has been exposed about her. She can never come back from that. Nor should she.

Most Y&R viewers are wearing adult diapers and getting their chins wiped after lunch. They don't know, or care, anything about Kimberlin Brown.

R142 Sheila can’t be recast. Kimberlin brings her own brand of crazy to the role. I’ll doubt she will ever return anyway. Sheila has been done to the death. But then again I thought Stafford would never return.

No.more. Sheila.EVER.

Carmine. Yes. And he's decided that the best way to get back at Lauren & Michael is to track down FenMo, seduce his ass, and marry him down in Rio at Carnival. .. Carmine keeps his young groom on a short leash (which Fen rather likes); he also supplies Fen with just enough of his favorite substance to keep him happy. .. Meanwhile, they've come up with a plan for new ad exec, Fen, to funnel money from mom's department store accounts, thus keeping them in the lap of luxury. As for district attorney, LaBaldwin - he's totally vexed over how Carmine and his son have become such influential (and seemingly affluent) Instahoes, but can't stop following them. Carmine laughs, "Just wait till we move to Only Fans."

Fans of Tessa and Mariah should be satisfied that they're skyping regularly while using their twin OhMiBods. It's really not that different from if they were in the same room under social distancing guidelines.

Sharon Case looks amazing for 50.

R147 I was noticing how good she looked in last week's scenes.

Stafford looks busted.

Grossman is eating Sharon’s snatch in real life. I want to see a video of it!!!!!

Why move heaven and earth to make Theo Dina's grandson and then kill him off?

What an absolute fucking waste. JG can't write long term story for shit, and absolutely everyone on this show is as exciting as a wet dishrag.

[quote] long boxer briefs

Usually a must if the actor is very well endowed.....

R144 The fans do NOT want Kimberlin to return. Her return to B&B was a DISASTER! No one cared. She served food. Big whoop. I don’t think its a case of whether or not she’d return. It’s a case of no one fucking cares and she’ll never be asked back!!!

Did someone mention the most successful recast in soap opera history?

R147 She really does. I’m happy she hasn’t completely ruined her face.

R144 I think we heard The Stafford's beef was with JFP. .. So once Jill got canned, I figured if things went south for Michelle over at GH, then there might be a possibility that she'd worm her way back to Y&R.

[quote]Why move heaven and earth to make Theo Dina's grandson and then kill him off?

They didn't kill Theo off, they merely wrote him off, sending him to Paris, likely never to be mentioned again.

I starting to have a slight bad feeling Michael Muhney's return will get pushed back again.

Perhaps Theo can connect with Jack's son Keemo, who also is never mentioned anymore.

I wouldn't doubt Theo will get a brief mention or two in passing conversation. Jack well say something about having heard from Theo and how the young man is really turning his life around and determined to make the boutiques a success. .. Ashley will return from Paris sometime and say she stopped in at the main boutique in Paris, adding how impressed she was. .. Meanwhile, JaBottom will be on IG and seethe with jealousy when he sees all the hot young Euro twunks Theo is hiring to be salesmen at the boutiques. "What's he doing? Trying to turn them into Andrew Christian stores?"

Stafford’s such a bitch and JFP didn’t put up with her shit. Love it.

OP what's going on in your pic? Looks like they're both in danger, gurls!

Rumor has it that even Days of our Lives beat Y&R in the women 18-49 demo in the most recent ratings. Showing the lezzys will boost Y&R’s female demos. Duh. Bring me my lezzys!!!!!!! Now!!!!

R163 Here ya go ....

Women 18-49 Viewers:

1. DAYS 243,000 (+23,000/+10,000) *

2. Y&R 238,000 (-1,000/-69,000)

3. GH 233,000 (-32,000/-73,000)

4. B&B 217,000 (-19,000/-58,000)

[*] First time #1, with all the soaps airing, since March 20-24, 2006

If they hadn’t sidelined the lezzys, Y&R would still be #1.

If some dog in a Nielsen Household hadn't sat on the remote control and accidentally changed the channel while its elderly owner lay napping in a BarcaLounger, the factors for multiplication wouldn't be off, and Y&R would still be #1.

The median age of a Y&R viewer is 104, eating rice pudding in the home with Sophia Petrillo.

NONE of the couples have a chemistry which is odd. Billy and Lilly seem to have a little bit-- but I do NOT support that shit at all. I was hoping they wouldn't go there but since nobody on this show can be alone, I guess they had to. Not sure why anyone in their right mind would get involved with him.

R168 the days of fuck up Billy may be over. I think it’s ridiculous he was in jail like two days, but it may have been the JG way of ending it and hopefully the Delia crap which has been dragged on way too long. Billy and Chloe, get a clue! Adam didn’t deliberately run her over it was an accident.

We’re in great hands! Dumb Dylan is monitoring the situation out in CA as to whether or not Y&R will shut down production. He’s offering his stupid insights over at SON. It’s hysterical because he’s so fucking dumb.

May I know what SON is? Soap Opera News?

Speak not to the trolls. Ignore button it and it will put the lotion in the basket.

R171 SON is a website. The acronym stands for "Soap Opera Network," with its URL being soapoperanetwork.com

It's only good for current and archived Nielsen ratings, as well as things like actor episode counts and other stats related to directors and writers, etc. (if one happens to care about that sort of info).

But AVOID the message boards. Quite a few certifiable nutcases.

Vee is in the biz, you know.

This week has really been so dull.

Does ANYONE really care about Amanda and her relatives?

I care as much about Amanda and her family as I do about Chelsea and her brain surgery.

Y&R is so fucking boring. Daytime drama. We need drama. DRAMA. At this point, go back to the JFP and Chuck Pratt playbook of blowing things up. At least there was drama. Now, there is nothing. Snoozeworthy.

when melissa ordway is a lead, one should expect nothing more than a Benadryl of a show

Imagine what Braeden, Bergman and Thomas Scott are thinking right now.

r179

why? what happened?

Everyone is on auto pilot. The over 60 actors just go in and collect the paycheck once or twice a week until CBS Sony cancels it. Probably after the current renewal for the show is done.

At least the February Sweeps spoilers sound somewhat different:

-- Try as hard as he can, it seems Chance just can't forget that night he bottomed for Adam in Vegas. Thoughts about their session continue to gnaw away at Chance until he actually becomes the one to make the first move to renew their 'curious' friendship. .. Phyllis is on the case.

-- SORASed 16-year olds, Connor and Johnny, end up in the same boarding school. Will anyone inform our lovesick teens that they have the same mother before they get to third base and have their first JO session? .. The bigger question might be, will that knowledge stop them?

-- Reed Hellstrom returns letting his family know that she now goes by the name "Reese" and that he and Charlie Ashby are a couple.

-- Gloria's big problem involves the gay pornographer she was doing secretarial work for. I guess GloHo shouldn't have skimmed all that cash out of the producer's bank accounts. He's a reasonable guy, though, and says he'll erase Gloria's debt if her son, Kevin, does five scenes for his "Men Over 40" studio. Kevin begrudgingly agrees, but then gets the shock of his life when his first screen partner shows up and it's Detective Mark Harding's twin brother, "Matt." Could this spell the end of Kevin & Chloe? .. Meanwhile, when Michael learns about the predicament Gloria's gotten Kevin into, he arrives and suggests that he at least share some of the 'load' by doing a couple of scenes for the porn guy's companion studio, "Hawt Silver Daddy."

-- The bigger surprise is that, some time later, an unseen person in Genoa City is shown to be a subscriber to those websites and discovers their videos online.

I have to repeat: Advertisers on soaps do NOT care about gay men. #Truth

Oh settle down, R183 ... It's just a little farcical fiction as we wait for Griffith's actual "stories" on The Old & the Listless to continue to bore more and more viewers silly.

The lezzys did not impress me. Tessa looked like Mortisa Adams.

Has Tessa's wedding song flown to the top of the charts yet?

Who the fuck is the set designer? I thought the Abbott house was over Christmased. Until I saw Sharon's shack. And then they pulled out the wedding at Society. FFS, if the sets get smaller, so should the garish accoutrements.

They've been recycling those Abbot decorations for centuries.

You just know Abby wanted a session with Arturo's huge, uncut pinga for old time's sake.

Maybe SC and JV will finally have chemistry in 2021

Who the fuck wants to have their wedding in an restaurant? Albeit it’s supposed to be upscale for GC but still. Did they get rid of the chapel set? Even Sharon’s shack would’ve made more sense.

The shot of Sharon coming out of what I presume was the bathroom, was fucking hilarious.

And when the hell did Arturo become a minister?

The sets are terrible and no one would want to eat or hang out at Society as much as they do. The GC Hyatt is the cheapest looking hotel on soaps, possibly ever

[quote]And when the hell did Arturo become a minister?

Wasn't Devon supposed to perform the ceremony?

I think it's pretty obvious they've reduced the number of sets employed due to COVID.

It's pretty easy to become a marriage officiant in Wisconsin, and actually a couple doesn't even need one in there, as state law allows two people to "marry themselves," as long as they they have two witnesses.

That was obviously the back of Grossman's head in today's final scene when Sharon and Rey kissed.

Chrissy is liking Marco's new photo set.

Devon performed Chance and Abby's ceremony.

What I want to know is - who doesn't already have a minister set for the day of their wedding? So if Arturo hadn't guilt-volunteered to make amends for his prior horn dog ways, who would have officiated their wedding?

And who closes their restaurant on New Year's Eve to throw a wedding for 2 people and their 3 closest friends? Between budget cuts and COVID it's getting ridiculous. The same sets just redressed a little for everything and these supposedly lavish affairs with all of 5 people on set.

Is Chrissy in love with Mr. Dapper?

[quote] And who closes their restaurant on New Year's Eve to throw a wedding for 2 people and their 3 closest friends.

Well, Lola is Rey's sister, so I suppose she might close her restaurant down even on New Year's Eve in order to host and cater his wedding reception party.

And none of these folks seem like church-goers; so having friends or family officiate almost seems more appropriate than having some priest or minister do it. And in a church? Posters might be questioning how these two could even get married in a church.

Chrissy wants to sniff Marco's pits.

R201 there has been like a million YR weddings on their church set. It was really just idiotic to have it at Society. But then the whole show is an exercise in being idiotic and boring anymore.

And what was with that cake? It was enough to feed a hundred people.

Soooo Tessa wrote and sang a song for the wedding but wasn't there? But Faith's drunko friend ,who looks 10 years older than Faith, by the way, was there? I will say that Rey and Sharon looked amazing, but the best part was shirtless Chance. Oh, and Amanda's birth mom calling and yelling at her. LOL

[quote] There has been like a million YR weddings on their church set

Yet one more wrong for these non-religious folks wouldn't make it right.

And while Society may have seemed like an idiotic place for the ceremony, concessions due to COVID are probably being made, so they're not going to unpack the church set. Plus, it made sense for the restaurant to be the venue for the reception due to Rey and Lola's relationship.

R206 well they could’ve used another existing set too. Maybe even the Abbott home? And of course we are not going to see the characters attend church unless it’s a wedding. We don’t know if the characters are religious or not, and frankly I don’t care.

Do they realize what a sex bomb they have in Jordi? Why not take his pants off more, or at least his shirt? How about more restlessness on this show?

R203 Do a venue search at Wedding Wire and one of the categories is "Restaurant Weddings." .. TPTB are in L.A. .. someone probably went to a wedding and reception at Lisa Vanderpump's SUR in WeHo.. lol!

Tony Morina is the least competent EP that Y&R has ever had. He aucks.

I want MORE LEZZYS in 2021!!!!!!!!

My brother's wedding and I have to make 10 dozen fucking tortillas.......I hate my life.

The Rosales family was a disaster. Fat fuk McDaniel wanted that family and she got fired soon after. Thankfully.

Jason Canela appears to have improved - his line delivery wasn't as stilted this appearance.

The only thing worth mentioning is Aruturo’s uncut pinga.

Suddenly, I'm hungry for Chorizo Cubano.

Mamie gets a memory card at the end of this coming Monday's episode.

Crossover news from TV Insider:

[quote] The crossover action begins the week of January 11 when Y&R's Summer Newman (Hunter King) takes a trip from Genoa City to Los Angeles to dig up dirt on Sally, who moved from B&B to Y&R in November. While in Los Angeles, where B&B is set, Summer meets, among others, Bill Spencer (Don Diamont). On the flip side, B&B's Wyatt Spencer (Darin Brooks) and Flo Fulton (Katrina Bowden) make appearances in Y&R's Genoa City this week. And you can expect the crossover fun to continue beyond next week so keep an eye peeled on more unexpected appearances.

I could see Wyatt visiting Genoa City and getting on Grindr to look for an out-of-town hook-up. .. But when Wyatt meets up with Kyle, laughter ensues when it soon dawns on the pair that they're both bottoms. .. Don't despair! Kyle goes to his closet and pulls out the very special, double-headed dildo that Dina bequeathed to him and suggests they use that.

A couple weeks later, when Kyle heads to Los Angeles to meet up with Wyatt and the two tops that Wyatt's found for some tag team action, Mariah accompanies her buddy and ends up buying a Tessa-lookalike doll at a Hollywood Blvd. sex shoppe. .. Once back in Genoa City, Mariah soon discovers that the mannequin has more personality than real Tessa.

This made-up B.S. about some embezzler at Newman whom Gloria just happened to know and Kevin is now telling Phyllis about in order to fuel the Victoria-Phyllis "feud" is another perfect of example of Griffith's ineptitude as a writer. You don't just make shit up that happened off-camera. Viewers should see it happening.

How does ChanceComm make any money? Running "stories" about Adam or Billy?

It's not even a magazine like "Restless Style" was. This "company" sounds like someone's personal blog.

I don't think this is what Jill had in mind.

Can someone please post the link to the current Days thread.

I had it marked in the thread watcher but it's dropped off for some reason.

DOOL, r221.

DOOL.

Will Dummer's and Jabottom's excellent espionage adventure to LA turn into a very special episode of Y & R?

r223 Maybe they can go to the roof of CBS Television City and film scenes as part of their LA adventure.

Dummer & JaBottom will probably stay in a hotel room that looks strangely like The Grand Phoenix, but with a different headboard and bedspread.

I'll bet Y&R will do a location shoot and have JaBottom and Summer go to the Grove!

Maybe even the Farmers Market too!

Masks on at The Grove and Farmers Market.

Maybe later on they could head over to Cedars Sinai and get tested for COVID!

Jabottom will no doubt make a very special detour into WeHo

That's probably where he learned to arch his back.

R226, Will they be stealing John Wayne's footprints from Grauman's Chinese Theatre?

R230 The B&B characters will probably take them to a local sex shoppe where life-size sex dolls are sold and ... hilarity will ensue!

(JaBottom will secretly order the 'rough trade' Gabriel M1 with happy trail and uncut penis.)

The only thing interesting on Monday's show is Chelsea imagining what Adam and Sharon want to do with one another. .. Though, it should have gone further with her imagining them ripping their clothes off each other and doing it on the couch right in front of her.

This show is hopeless. No one cares about Chelsea's stroke or Amanda's birth mom, or any scene with the human Ambien known as Devon. And what was the point of having the Jabot plane grounded for a few hours? STUPID. They've even neutered Phyllis with her whole "I could blackmail you but I'm not" conversation with Snatchtoria. And yes, it seems they are going for an Aunt Jack/Sally pairing so that Nick and Phyllis will not longer be the ickiest couple on the show.

Kevin's snug shirt looks like something from the JaBottom Collection.

No doubt, after his meeting with the town hag, he was off to present hole in Chancellor Park.

The JaBottom Collection, available at select Fenmore's locations.

Hadn't watched this in a month or so. Tuned in yesterday and fucking Chelsea is grunting in a wicker chair.

AHAHAHAHA

Since Devon mentioned that Moses might be coming to town to study at Walnut Grove, they need to cast a hot chocolate twink!

And instead of our high school senior wanting his non-bio-related 'step-cousin' Nate to mentor him in the study of medicine, Gay Boi Moz wants Doctor Daddy to probe him anally.

Moses is for Drunk Faith.

That's okay too. When Faith spies Moses in bed with Nate, that can send her to the booze, but not before she snaps several photos with her phone

What happened to Lilly's twin brats? I HATED those kids.

Maybe drunk Faith can drive Nicki to start drinking again.

R240 I think they’re in college.

Who will carry Abby and Chance's fertilized egg to term?

I vote Mariah.

R240 Whatever the twins are doing, Lily just went to New York to visit them at Christmas.

R243 Maybe Aunt Traci ...

for one of those sexagenarian surrogacy stories for the fraus.

Theo's back from Paris sometime the week of Feb. 8th.

JaBottom will be sooooo jealous when he learns Theo is fucking instaho, Tristan Mergeron, Marc's hot grandson.

Soaps are still on tv? And you people still watch them? What sad pathetic losers.

Donny Boaz seems to be putting more effort into his performances since returning from COVID quarantine. I'm liking the character more.

Perhaps he got scared when Justin Gaston stepped in for him and decided he wanted to keep his job.

Danny Boaz is out. He just posted a farewell.

SOD reporting

Glad Boredazz is out.

Not my idea of PC4 at all.

TPTB seem to share our view that Justin Gaston was better as Chance.

Glad they made the right decision.

I liked Boaz a lot more, even though Gaston is more my type. He worked well with Abby. I'll probably FF them now, too.

According to DB, they’re not recasting.

Well, they're not recasting until they figure out who they actually want, which could be sooner rather than later.

So he's OUT on Feb 1 ... and Mama Nina (Tricia Cast) returns Feb. 4. .. lol!

[quote]So he's OUT on Feb 1 ... and Mama Nina (Tricia Cast) returns Feb. 4.

He's going to die and she's there for the funeral?

If so, will Abby extract his sperm to implant it in Mariah?

R257 According to the actor formerly known as Chance, as far as he knows, the character does not get killed off.

btw - It would be pretty insane to kill off the Chancellor legacy character.

Agreed, r258. But then why get rid of Donny Boaz?

Rather generous of them to let him have the whole year, before they finally reasoned he's just wrong for the role. (Perhaps the hiatus due to COVID may have delayed this move.)

Maybe the backlash over him finally got to them.

Boaz was just one of those generic actors no one will remember. They need to infuse the show with some dynamic, sexy actors. But probably much won’t change until after Covid. The show is a complete coma fest right now. I understand budgets and sets are limited, but shit, no one really cares about little Dolly Parton and her drinking story. Or Jack and Sally potentially fucking.

[quote] Boaz was just one of those generic actors no one will remember.

Totally.

I have to think what his name is even now.

Abby curse strikes again!

r264

I have always found it weird that they keep the actress playing Abby yet get rid of her much more interesting male interests

I've always found Melissa Ordway to be a bland actress. Have not cared at all about the Abbey character since she took over the part seven years ago.

Her Abbey bears so little resemblance to Marcy/Emme Rylan's Abbey. It's almost like they were playing two different characters.

Abbey's best pairing was with Stitch. But as said above, Stitch was the interesting one in that pairing.

Melissa Ordway did have spark opposite her husband Justin Gaston. I actually cared more about Abbey during Justin's two weeks as Chance than I ever have before.

R265 Griffith was HW when he and and then-EP JFP brought Melissa Boredway to Y&R from their "Hollywood Heights" telenovela project, so now that he's both HW and co-EP, I wouldn't expect him to axe her.

btw - I literally LOL! at Boaz praising her as "one of the greatest actresses he's ever worked with."

No longer a regular viewer, but happened to catch a few minutes of today's show.

Is Melissa Ordway's face always that greasy looking now?

Boaz is smoking hot. I hope he lands on some CBS crime drama.

Each to his own. I don't think Boaz is hot at all. The first thing I see is Paramedic #3.

Oh good grief .. another made-up *scandal* from NYC as Theo tells Sally that JaBottom fathered a kid there with some married woman.

Griffith sure does love relying on manufactured, unseen events for his dull drama.

LOL!!! So the writers sent Chance off on some mystery assignment for the GCPD (uh... ok) and left a letter for his wife telling her to go ahead and have a baby...somehow? Did they dream that up in 20 seconds?

[quote] So the writers sent Chance off on some mystery assignment for the GCPD

I think Christine indicated that The Feds re-enlisted Chance for one of their operations.

I guess they'll need a sperm donor. If they had a NuPhillip around, they could tell his story from New Zealand .. then, PC3 could also be the father of PC5. .. lol! .. At least that would be different. Lesbian womb and gay sperm.

Who wants cake?

I'm loving this new storyline of virile he-man Jabottom impregnating some women while he was in NY.

They're trying to make us believe that "Kyle" is still being played by Blake Hood... lol!

Funny promo from the mid-80s.

What's up with JaBottom's mouth?

Sharon's Valentine's message.

More fun than the show.

R279, She's obviously enjoying every inch of Mark Grossman.

Should we wonder if they do it in her dressing room? Queen Sharon probably has a nice one.

Jabottom had to unhinge his jaw to suck Sally's cock.

Chrissy likes Marco's new photo.

So do I.

Someone save this show.

Richard Burgi is one hot daddy.