Helmut Berger rightfully Trashing "Dynasty"

I lived in the "Chateau Marmont," but I longed for a home. I asked Franco Nero, who was also shooting in Hollywood, asked for his help to search for an apartment. He contacted his friends and I quickly come to an agreement. Off Sunset Boulevard in Chennyway I rented two apartments. One for me and one for my female coach with whom I studied the English texts.

The female Coach lived in an apartment one floor below. I paid from my fee: $ 1,000 per week plus apartment. I later noticed both of the Phones, hers and mine, were running on my card. She happily telephoned around Europe. without informing me. This was our first row.

The second came because she taught me an American accent, but that's exactly what Spelling didn't want. He wanted my perfect European English. I had four episodes therefore synchronize. I kicked out my coach right away. The Americans don't know anything about that. Hired and fired.

I left to Angela Bowie, David's ex-wife, the apartment below me. I knew her from London and so I did her a favor. Well, she messed up the apartment. Systematically destroyed the furniture. Huge burn marks everywhere on the couches and fitted carpets. The kitchen a chaos. Walls were smeared. window shattered.

Angela and her pop friends must have been so intoxicated that they were like a tornado through the apartment. Nothing remained intact. I had to kick her out after that Renovation costs a lot of money.

Each episode was shot under a different Director , a few days later a new one took over directing. In the short time one did not warm to each other. We "actors" became like liquid models from one scene to the next.

The directors were very young assistants. who practiced on the set. A black, a Japanese, a white. The only thing that was important was that Dialog was in the box, the wardrobe was perfect and the Champagne brand was right.

Everything else didn't matter to the directors. For the ambience, the good mood or the togetherness They didn't have time to talk.

Awful. Like a factory, from seven in the morning until 8.30 in the evening. Quickly quickly Quickly!

I found myself in the first four episodes horrible. I was so stiff, but that's how they wanted my role. Fallon's family saw through my awkward calculation, and I had to represent that. A tedious business.

Linda Evans and Joan Collins:

At first everyone was very lovely to me. Linda Evans, Joan Collins, Pamela Sue Martin and John Forsythe. The secretaries of Spelling looked after me superficially. What they said, were empty words. I felt that immediately.

The first four weeks I concentrated all my energy on the role. An actor who does his best. No cocaine. no Alcohol, total devotion to "Dynasty".

We always got our text on the morning of the day of shooting. You needed a clear head for that. But the virus of impersonality was contagious. I did not feel well every day.

Neither Linda Evans nor Joan Collins ever invited me to dinner, Linda had lived with me in Rome, here she didn't care about me at all. I was never invited to her house not even on weekends. Hello and ciao, a couple of stupid words, that was all I heard from her. Her behavior insulted me.

I already knew Joan Collins from London in 1968 when she was married to one Record producer. We often met in Viviane Ventura's house, with which she is also good friends. Now she was playing the star. Polite but cold. she didn't even make a small talk, Polite phrases down to nothing. but really nothing meant.

"Nice to meet you. How do you like your new Flat? How are you? ” “Bye-bye, see you soon.” That's it. Basta!

First I found that funny, then strange. After all, I have friends all over the world, and I've also shot in many countries, but I've never seen anything like this before or after.

"Making business without a Soul" is the right phrase. Joan never asked if I needed anything. Information or maybe even her help. The London times wasn't even mentioned.

On Friday I could feel a bit of joy, but cautiously. It was the anticipation for the weekend.

Just before Christmas, Aaron Spelling gave a huge party. But my anger over the strange behavior of my two colleagues remained. I left.

He spoke to me, of course, and I explained to him how I felt. He must have understood nothing of my explanations. There are worlds between our views.

I became friends with Pamela Sue Martin. We met for Dinner. Pamela Bellwood was also very nice and just lovely.

Otherwise, I liked to meet up on Saturdays and Sundays with old acquaintances in Hollywood. For example Jack Nicholson. He hosted a typical Hollywood party at his home, We smoked a few joints and horsed around a little.

I like Jack, he's one of the funniest men I know. I told him about my problems on the set and Nicholson said: "The role is good for you. Everyone in America sees you. You become famous."

But the producers said that I was not allowed to meet people like Nicholson because everyone in Hollywood knew that those people were sniffing cocaine. I was also not allowed to visit "Studio One" night club" I could not believe it. All those jerks. Puritans. But secretly they all watch porno movies. I did not follow their rules.

I had to come to the office every second day. They told me that my role would slowly disappear, if I would not do what they said. I answered: 'You really believe that I stay at home and don't meet my friends? Really? Heil Hitler.'

Sounds...awkward.

Seems like he doesn’t get that he wasn’t the star of the show.

I haven’t seen Dynasty in ages, but IIRC he was pretty wooden. But of course, the writing was also total shit by season 4.

R7 "Seems like he doesn’t get that he wasn’t the star of the show."

That's not his problem. He felt insulted and hurt by being totally snubbed by old friends like Linda Evans and Joan Collins as if they didn't know him before.

He sounds whiny and bitchy - doesn't seem to realize that the Universe and the show doesn't revolve around him.

If he was playing a cocaine-sniffing playboy, why would the producers care if he hung out with cocaine-sniffing playboys? You'd think it would be great free publicity. The public back then rarely distinguished between characters and the actors who played them, so the idea of Fallon's naughty ex partying with Nicholson would have been perfect.

At Christmas I flew to Rio de Janeiro. To visit my German friend Karin Fiedler, But not before sending Christmas gifts and being generous.

I had fancy briefcases made of mahogany wood have it done with monogram. One for Joan Collins. One for Linda Evans. One for John Forsythe. And five for that Producer team.

I had to shoot again on January 3rd. One huge hangover kept me and I missed that plane.

The next flight wasn't until January 6th. The "Dynasty" - Crew had to do an episode without me. Finally. Give me a break, I just thought.

But when I arrived, Pamela Sue Marlin was the problem child in the Production. Nervous completely at the end.

But when I arrived, Pamela Sue Marlin was the problem child in the Production. Nervous completely at the end.

They wanted her to have another forced abortion because she has been the star of the series and was now pregnant.

Her husband wanted that Child. He pressured her, threatened to break up, It was real drama until she decided on the child.

Aaron Spelling wrote Pamela out of the series and replaced her with another actress. The relationship between me and the production was no less bad.

They didn't know how to get a grip on me despite significant threats of the typical Hollywood Hardness and sweet palaver to make me docile. The Opposite!

So they revealed to me that I too would have my character written off soon.

Two Pamelas? How is that even possible? Pam One and Pam Two?

R13 I think they made Pamela character had an accident and her face disfigured? and operated in a Swiss clinic, so they could get another actress for the role.

Pretty uppity attitude for such a mediocre actor barely known in the US.

Hmm a forced abortion. Interesting gossip.

At the time, Ali Khan's best horse was stolen in London. A worldwide sensational topic. The scriptwriters decided look for a similar pattern to say goodbye to.

I became the horse thief who secretly stole Fallon's favorite horse and moved to Brazil. I can use the money from the Escape horses to Mexico in a private jet.

Unfortunately, there is a mountain in the way where my Plane crashes. And me with - van Vilbis had burst like one Soap bubble.

Until the last day of shooting, in mid-February 1984, my words were limited, a few private words like "Good morning. good evening, Ihank you, bye-bye «.

By the way: Neither of the two Graces ever thanked me for my generous Christmas gift.

Bad upbringing, one can only say.

"Pretty uppity attitude for such a mediocre actor barely known in the US"

Lies. Viewers knew me from "Empire Of The Ants" (1977).

By the way: Neither of the two Graces ever thanked me for my generous Christmas gift. Bad upbringing, one can only say.

I extended my lease in Los Angeles for one month. Only now, freed from all the "Dynasty" nuisance, I began enjoy myself .

I did a lot of shopping, was invited by Warren Beatty, and Barbra Streisand gave a dinner party for me. I met Grace Jones, Linda Blair, Sally Kellerman, Richard Dreyfuss, Michael Douglas and Michelle Philips. And, of course, Marisa Berenson.

I was totally high when I left Hollywood, this magical place of false illusions.

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R15 = bitter Alain Delon

R18 hahaaaa Thank you!

I like New York directors but I hate Hollywood, this plastic world, this whole system that I have known during my many travels, and to which I have been particularly faced when I worked for Dynasty.

The Americans are Puritans flanked by ambiguous morals. They even smile when they are informed of a death.

How horrible these T-shirts with the Fuck you inscription, Shit, Fuck and Fuck up yours! They have the best jeans, burgers and fried chickens, they have business acumen, but they have no culture.

Few have impressed me like Liz Taylor, Barbra Streisand, Faye Dunaway, Jack Nicholson or Al Pacino.

Either way, the options are limited for German actors in Hollywood. The cinema mafia will only give them the roles of the Nazi officer or the ninny with blond hair.

R16, even worse: "ANOTHER forced abortion"

And how did he know that the producers secretly watched porno movies?

I think he's full of shit regarding Pamela Sue Martin. She didn't leave the show until the end of the fifth season. He was in season four. And when she left in 1985, she wasn't married (she'd divorced her second husband the year before and didn't marry again until 1990), so she wasn't torn between a husband and the producers as he describes. Finally, I can't find any evidence that she ever had children.

Did it ever occur to him that two middle-aged women who were working long hours starring in the #1 TV show wanted to spend their free time with friends and family rather than babysitting a hard drinking, coke-sniffing, aging roue?

He complains that Joan and Lynda were always polite, but didn't invite him to their homes or take him under their wings. Boo-hoo. This guy expects a lot from co-workers.

R23 is full of shit.

"She didn't leave the show until the end of the fifth season"

No, Pamela Sue Martin left after the 4th season, Emma Samms played Fallon Carrington in the fifth season. (the link below)

"she wasn't married (she'd divorced her second husband the year before and didn't marry again until 1990)"

Wrong, in 1984, she was married

From IMDB, Spouse (4)

Bruce Allen (May 1990 - 1998) ( divorced)

Manuel Rojas (22 August 1982 - 1987) ( divorced)

Jorge Brusch (14 February 1979 - 1980) ( divorced)

Charles Gates (? - ?) ( divorced)

"I can't find any evidence that she ever had children."

Wrong again, she has one child.

R22 "And how did he know that the producers secretly watched porno movies?"

He's talking about the hypocrisy of Hollywood producers in general (though he may have known this about the show producers, Hollywood is a small town). Helmut Berger spent some time in Hollywood in the 1970s and attended their parties and have many friends there like Jack Nicholson. He knows very well about their activities, how they always want to project a fake clean image and pretend to be wholesome, but have orgies, watch porno, take drugs and do other shit in their private lives/parties.

An example of Helmut Berger witnessing Hollywood's perverted private parties:

From Marie Helvin, David Bailey ex-wife, book:

"We'd met up with Alana Hamilton - by then divorced from actor George Hamilton and dating the singer Rod Stewart - and Helmut Berger, an Austrian actor known as "the most beautiful man in the world".

That night, we headed for the house of that old Rat Packer, Sammy Davis Jr - which was behind huge security gates and patrolled by armed guards.

Inside, there was quite a party going on: I could see 15 members of the American Football team Oakland Raiders all surrounded by sexy women. There was something unsettling about the way the men were evidently guests, and the women had clearly been "laid on" for them.

As background entertainment, a huge TV screen set in a sunken area in the living room was playing Sam Peckinpah's most violent movie, The Wild Bunch.

Sammy Davis Jr welcomed us.

"I must show you my collection," he said.

This turned out to be pornography through all the ages...When we returned to the living room, the atmosphere was rowdier. In the sunken area, some of the girls were on their knees in front of a few reclining Oakland Raiders, clearly performing oral sex."

R24 "This guy expects a lot from co-workers."

Not just coworkers, He expected more warmth from them because they knew each before, As he said, He dated Linda Evans and she even lived with him for a time in Rome and he was friend with Joan Collins in late 1960s. He was disappointed by their cold treatment (even if it was polite).

Sending them an especially made Christmas gifts for them and not even a simple thank you is super rude.

"I had fancy briefcases made of mahogany wood have it done with monogram. One for Joan Collins. One for Linda Evans. One for John Forsythe. And five for that Producer team...... By the way: Neither of the two Graces ever thanked me for my generous Christmas gift. Bad upbringing, one can only say."

R25 The link you provided supports my contention that she left at the end of season five, more than a year after Helmut was fired. And your dates for her second marriage are wrong: it was 1982-1984. And you provided no citation for the assertion that she has a child at all, much less one that was born shortly after she left Dynasty.

So basically, you're just a bitch with poor reading comprehension.

Pamela Sue Martin was perfect as Fallon. Why couldn't they just have shot her from above her pregnant belly?

He sounds like most European actors of the period. They loathed Hollywood and yearned to return to Europe. And most of them talk about the peculiar American state of being highly prudish but at the same time lacking morals (ie honesty, loyalty, concern for others, etc). Its remarkable how many have recounted the very same impressions

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Was Pamela fired or did she quit? I thought she got tired of it and asked to leave.

In this article Pamela Sue Martin states she has a 16 year old son (in2007) which means he would have been born in 1991 - well after she left Dynasty in 1984.

Does this guy just have a terrible memory? He thought he was friends with Collins and Evans, but they clearly just looked on him as a work colleague. Sometimes it just works out that way. You think of someone as a friend, and they don't think of you at all.

He comes off as kind of pissy, and to make such a big deal out of briefcases is laughable. A good bottle of wine would have probably been more welcome.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[Quote]to make such a big deal out of briefcases is laughable. A good bottle of wine would have probably been more welcome.

A monogrammed custom briefcase is far more thoughtful than a bottle of wine. I'm sure they were lovely as Helmut knew fine leather goods from living in Italy

[quote]I'm sure they were lovely as Helmut knew fine leather goods from living in Italy

And as the condition of his skin ultimately illustrated.

What I dont understand is his misconception that he is the first European actor to be asked to be on the show.

“He sounds like most European actors of the period. They loathed Hollywood and yearned to return to Europe. And most of them talk about the peculiar American state of being highly prudish but at the same time lacking morals (ie honesty, loyalty, concern for others, etc). Its remarkable how many have recounted the very same impressions”

That description is about 99% of Americans in a nut shell.

What does an actress need with a briefcase?

A wooden briefcase, at that. And monogrammed so you can't even regift.

With all the stress between work pressuring her to abort and her bad marriage she probably miscarried. Hunter Tylo sued Spelling and won for similar treatment a few years later on Melrose. I’m sure it was common practice.

OT the coat on the that black guy at r19 is fabulous. Such style. Awesome look.

"That black guy" is Director Georg Sanford Brown, Tyne Daly's ex.

R28, I wonder if John Forsythe expressed the proper amount of gratitude for the briefcase that he received.

Pamela Sue Martin definitely left at the end of the fourth season.

Helmut Burger as Peter de Vilbis was dreadful, but this is juicy stuff. Given most of his life was in a powdery haze, it deserves a gram of caution, but I suspect he is being truthful; it's just that that truth is from his perspective, a perspective clouded and unreliable (and not taking into consideration that others may not have wanted to be around his behavior).

R29 "And your dates for her second marriage are wrong: it was 1982-1984"

As I mentioned in my post. I provided the dates of her marriages from IMDB, but even if her 2nd (or 3rd) marriage ended in 1984, What Helmut said is still true. She left the show in early 1984 among personal problems, and separated from her husband in the same year. I'm inclined to believe a man who was there, knew her and dealt with her instead of an online clueless bitch who doesn't know what he/she is talking about.

"A good bottle of wine would have probably been more welcome."

Ha, this only indicates your classless and trashy cheap taste.

R42 "With all the stress between work pressuring her to abort and her bad marriage she probably miscarried"

Agree, She probably miscarried the baby after all the stress she went through. Helmut said she was a nervous wreck at her end.

R46 "Pamela Sue Martin definitely left at the end of the fourth season."

100% true. The link in R25 confirms that Fallon was played by Emma Samms in episode 5. Pamela left after the 4th season.

"Given most of his life was in a powdery haze, it deserves a gram of caution, but I suspect he is being truthful"

I don't find anything Helmut Berger said to be far fetched or unbelievable to doubt his account. Joan Collins is well known to be a major bitch, and Hollywood producers controlling the private lives of the actors and pressuring their golden actress to abort her kid is not new and has been happening since the beginning of Hollywood.

"a perspective clouded and unreliable"

On the contrary, Helmut is known for his brutal honesty and sincerity with a good memory (despite his sharp bitchy tongue and his drug use).

For the clueless bitch who insists on arguing about Pamela Sue Martin date of leaving the show and the date of her divorce:

As the article says, Pamela left Dynasty in 1984 (as Helmut said in February 1984) and she was married to her 2nd husband until 1987. Also the article mentions her messy private life.

"Pamela Sue Martin rose to fame when she played the role of "Fallon Carrington Colby" on Dynasty from 1981 until 1984. Her successful career in the entertainment industry made for a relatively messy personal life..."

Pamela Sue Martin and Manuel Rojas : Martin's second husband was Manuel Rojas. They married on August 22, 1982 and divorced five years later in 1987. "

I'm done replying the stupid nut at R23 R29 R34.

R45 "if John Forsythe expressed the proper amount of gratitude"

A simple thank you would have been enough, instead of being total rude cunts like Joan Collins and Linda Evans.

R36 "A monogrammed custom briefcase is far more thoughtful than a bottle of wine. I'm sure they were lovely as Helmut knew fine leather goods from living in Italy"

Totally Agree,

Also, Helmut Berger has a good taste so I'm sure the gifts were real classy. Too bad, he gave them to such undeserving bitches and wannabe divas.

"He sounds like most European actors of the period. They loathed Hollywood and yearned to return to Europe. And most of them talk about the peculiar American state of being highly prudish but at the same time lacking morals (ie honesty, loyalty, concern for others, etc). Its remarkable how many have recounted the very same impressions"

R31 Because it's true. A long-time Hollywood resident myself, I've witnesses exactly what he recounts. Hollywood, by which I mean the entertainment industry, is a slaughterhouse with all the cliches firmly in place.

R52 Thank you!

I don't know why some posters here act as if what Helmut Berger said is unbelievable or far fetched!!

"Too bad, he gave them to such undeserving bitches and wannabe divas."

They weren't wannabe's, darling, they were the reigning queens of the most watched primetime show on Earth at the time. They didn't have to say thank you.

Omar Sharif who lived and worked in Hollywood during the 1960s also HATED Americans and America, He said it was the least favorite place for him, He loved France and Italy the most.

R54 "they were the reigning queens...They didn't have to say thank you."

"Bad upbringing, one can only say." is the perfect description as Helmut said.

Also, only weak sycophants will allow cunts and wannabe divas to walk all over them or be rude to them.

Film and TV production in Hollywood is corporate and all about time-is-money. I’m not surprised that Helmut Burger had trouble adapting. And as with any big corporation, who you align with becomes highly political.

Production in Europe is far more relaxed... not just because of the cultural differences there but because it’s farther away from the NY and LA “suits” both distance-wise and telephone time zone-wise.

Bronx-born director Stanley Kubrick left U.S.-based production as soon as he could, moving his family permanently to England. He said that in the States, he always felt the executives were looking over his shoulder and questioning every decision based on money. Working in Europe allowed Kubrick to focus on the art form of film.

Film and TV production in Hollywood is corporate and all about time-is-money. I’m not surprised that Helmut Burger had trouble adapting. And as with any big corporation, who you align with becomes highly political.

Production in Europe is far more relaxed... not just because of the cultural differences there but because it’s farther away from the NY and LA “suits” both distance-wise and telephone time zone-wise.

Bronx-born director Stanley Kubrick left U.S.-based production as soon as he could, moving his family permanently to England. He said that in the States, he always felt the executives were looking over his shoulder and questioning every decision based on money. Working in Europe allowed Kubrick to focus on the art form of film.

Great post R57

This whole business about not being thanked for the briefcases is ridiculous. Helmut no doubt used his briefcase to cart around his drugs. I'm sure everyone knew it and laughed behind his back at him for having provided them with such a useful and thoughtful gift.

R60 Ridiculous unfunny post coming from a retard.

Well if someone gave me a gift, even just a Snickers bar, I’d say thank you. It doesn’t surprise me that Joan would say nothing in return. But I thought John and Linda were bigger than that. Interesting information about Pamela. It’s little wonder she never returned to the show. Cystitis, hair loss, bad marriage AND being pressured into an abortion. Jesus. I can imagine the stress she was under. Even though Dynasty was much less without her.

Hey, who cares. As long as it kept the ribbons and bows coming to my wrapping rooms, that’s all that’s important here.

R62 "Well if someone gave me a gift, even just a Snickers bar, I’d say thank you"

Absolutely. It's just the basic human decency/behavior that people are taught growing up.

It's disgusting how some people here want to justify Joan and Linda rude actions.

R62 "Interesting information about Pamela. It’s little wonder she never returned to the show. Cystitis, hair loss, bad marriage AND being pressured into an abortion. Jesus. I can imagine the stress she was under. Even though Dynasty was much less without her."

There was a thread on DL about Pamela Sue Martin and people were wondering why she left Dynasty and that it was her biggest mistake. After reading what Helmut Berger said in his book, Pamela's actions is totally understandable, No one can blame her for leaving that toxic show even if it gave her biggest fame and success.

Too bad, Helmut Berger book is only in German and French. It contains many hidden interesting treasures about show business.

Maybe Joan and Linda didn't realize they had even received a gift from Helmut. They must have received hundreds of gifts, including from the network, the show's producers, fans, and colleagues.

R65 I seem to recall that thread a little. I never knew about the pregnancy though. Joan called her stupid for leaving the show in the Dynasty E True Hollywood Story. But PSM wasn’t on the fame trip Joan was. I always hoped Pamela would come back, but I respect her for getting out too. Emma Samms, even on her best day, never held a candle to her.

But that is why you have an assistant, R66. To sort through the gifts and make sure that everyone gets a thank-you card.

He sounds obnoxious.

R67 Yes, Joan Collins called Pamela Sue Martin "Stupid" for leaving Dynasty.

I'm sure Joan Collins (as everyone else on Dynasty knew what was going on behind the scenes), But it's predictable from someone like Joan Collins (who would sell her soul for fame and success) to say that.

In this picture, Pamela looks sad and worn out.

R70 Joan Collins has already said that she aborted the child that she conceived with Warren Beatty, I'd imagine that she probably had more.

There isn't really a stigma about it in the UK, but to admit to more than one 'mistake' would either sound foolish or callous.

R53, because they are not true veteran DLers. They are newcomers. They were not here many years ago when the DL was a veritable treasure trove of the juiciest gossip anywhere. Unfortunately, it's now a shadow of its former self. This thread seems to be an exception though.

R72 Voluntarily having an abortion is one thing and is totally different from being forced and pressured to have an abortion by the producers or anyone else.

I think a lot of actresses still are, they definitely were in the past.

R73 Yes, lots of good threads on DL with interesting topics/gossip and firsthand accounts are killed and derailed by obnoxious cynics who claim everything is a lie.

R33 "Was Pamela fired or did she quit? I thought she got tired of it and asked to leave."

Read R12 "But when I arrived, Pamela Sue Marlin was the problem child in the Production. Nervous completely at the end. They wanted her to have another forced abortion because she has been the star of the series and was now pregnant. Her husband wanted that Child. He pressured her, threatened to break up, It was real drama until she decided on the child. Aaron Spelling wrote Pamela out of the series and replaced her with another actress."

[quote]It's disgusting how some people here want to justify Joan and Linda rude actions.

Berger is from a different culture (Austria). I would appreciate some input on this from German and Austrian DataLoungers, but from my experience with people from that part of the world, Joan and Linda’s behavior throughout— not just failing to acknowledge the gifts that Berger had given them but their perfunctory politeness scarcely concealing utter indifference— would be viewed as offensive. Berger is absolutely right when he says they weren’t brought up properly. ([italic]Mal élevé,[/italic] as the French say, which is a very bad thing.)

I'd imagine that Joan Collins would have sent a 'Thank You letter' that he didn't read. She's English, that would be the correct way to respond to a gift.

Despite his protestations about them being 'friends' she obviously didn't feel the same way.

[quote] She's English, that would be the correct way to respond to a gift.

Regarding the English, that's a myth. Maybe in a distant past, in some time immemorial, not anymore.

And then again, how do you justify Linda's behaviour — she's American

R79 "I'd imagine that Joan Collins would have sent a 'Thank You letter' that he didn't read"

Imagining excuses for her?!!! For God's sake, the man himself said she didn't thank him (or send a Thank you note), Period.

The great length people go in this thread to justify Joan Collins (or Linda Evans) ungraceful actions is laughable and tiring.

R81 = Helmut, still pissed about those missing thank you notes.

I think it's possible that Linda and Joan both saw Helmut as a druggie import whose friendship they had no interest in cultivating, mostly because there wasn't much he could do for them. Remember, they were the uncontested stars of the biggest show on television and in Hollywood, "if you can't do something for me then you don't exist." You couldn't open a magazine or watch TV without Joan and Linda being mentioned, and Helmut was... "just one of those European actors" who get 5 seconds in Hollywood and are sent back to do horror pictures in Italy, as he ultimately was. Hollywood sucks.

I’ve known a few actors who are introverts. They don’t like socializing; they just do their work and go home. Working on a television series sounds fairly exhausting with little time or energy left over for a social life. None of this is an excuse for being rude, though.

R79 "Despite his protestations about them being 'friends' she obviously didn't feel the same way."

Even if she didn't consider him a friend, There is still the basic decency of acknowledging and thanking someone for his gift.

Linda Evans dated him for a while in Rome (Ursulla Andress introduced them), they were certainly more than just acquaintances or friends in the past. Of course He would find Linda's actions insulting.

R83 I totally agree with your opinion.

"Making business without a soul" as Helmut Berger described them.

R83 Also, notice how they were friends with Helmut Berger (and Linda dating him) when his star was shining and bright, Joan and Linda were no bodies at the time. But when they became big shots, and they certainly had no use for Helmut anymore , they treat him coldly and act like they didn't know him one day,( let alone dating).

Old queens arguing over a celebrity thank you note from 40 years ago. Gota love it. Don’t ever change Datalounge.

I'm sure that Joan Collins focus at that point in her life was to make as much money as possible. She'd been a jobbing (pretty poor) Actress for 50 years and Dynasty was her last shot.

Didn't he say that they hadn't been friendly before he sent the gifts? I'm not sure why he'd send them in that scenario? Some people can't take a hint.

R89 Still, Not justifying Joan and Linda cunty rude behavior.

R89 "Didn't he say that they hadn't been friendly before he sent the gifts? I'm not sure why he'd send them in that scenario? Some people can't take a hint."

It's called making an effort to be nice and friendly to people around you, especially if you knew each other before.

I don't know if what Berger said about PSM is true but I've always thought there was more to the story than her just wanting to leave. The show was on its way to #1 when she left. Maybe she wasn't a fame-seeker but it was an odd time to leave. It sounds like there was a lot of shit going on behind the scenes.

It's too bad she didn't stay because she was the best thing about the show. Although she did look terrible in season four and completely over it (plus, the horrible writing).

I've ghosted and fallen out with more friends than I currently have, so have most people as they get older.

Life is too short to be nice to people that you don't have anything in common with any longer or figure out that you never really liked.

My God, I feel like I'm talking to people from another planet. Are most people rude and cunt like Joan Collins and Linda Evans to consider their behavior normal?!

Pretty normal here in the UK.

Sounds like an insufferable, diva bitch. No wonder no one wanted to hang around with him.

R96 The only insufferable, diva bitches in this story are Joan Collins and Linda Evans.

'My God, I feel like I'm talking to people from another planet. Are most people rude and cunt like Joan Collins and Linda Evans to consider their behavior normal?!"

People? I ain't "people". I'm a shimmering, glowing star in the Hollywood firmament.

R96 "No wonder no one wanted to hang around with him."

No one wanted to hang around him??? He had no problems and was good friend with Pamela Sue Martin and Pamela Bellwood (not to mention his other Hollywood friends outside Dynasty like Warren Beaty, Jack Nicholson and Barbra Streisand giving a dinner party for him).

Linda Evans and Joan Collins with their inflated ego acted like total arrogant cunts. That's what he was talking about.

Yes, no matter if Berger was a needy cokehead or not, if someone gets you a nice Christmas present you say thank you. That is the most basic of manners. Doesn't matter if you are a big star or a street bum, you fucking say thanks.

Joan has a new movie opening.

R100 Thank you!

Few are speaking sense in this thread.

R100 " if someone gets you a nice Christmas present you say thank you. That is the most basic of manners."

These cunts were Not brought up properly.

You are talking about people from three different cultures, one of whom is quite enthusiastic about opiates.

Who'd guess that it would end badly?

R100 Calm down, girl, it's Hollywood.

The drama behind the scenes of Dynasty was more juicy than on. Corley leaving because Steven wasn’t gay enough, Pamela leaving for her multitude of reasons, Joan and her Alexis character hi jacking the show at the expense of other characters, the Joan camp vs. the John Linda camp, the show coming crashing down due to the shit writing post Moldavia, Catherine Oxenberg being shown the door for requesting a small raise due to tightwad Spelling. I wish an actor from the show would write a tell all.

Joan would have never been a Dame of the British Empire hadn't it been for Dynasty. She was an all-but-forgotten second rate starlet doing no-dignity horror shows for American International and nudies like The Bitch and The Stud to make a living. I doubt very much that Her Majesty would have considered giving her the honour hadn't it been for the fame she earned on Dynasty.

R106 "I wish an actor from the show would write a tell all."

Shhh, No one will believe him if he talked about the cunty behavior of their Majesties Joan Collins and Linda Evans. He will be accused of being a liar and whiny bitch who didn't deserve to be acknowledged by their highness and his other firsthand accounts from behind the scenes will be disbelieved and taken with a grain of salt.

R107 "Joan would have never been a Dame of the British Empire hadn't it been for Dynasty. She was an all-but-forgotten second rate starlet doing no-dignity horror shows for American International and nudies like The Bitch and The Stud to make a living...."

100% true, I've never understood Joan Collins's so called stardom and her huge ego, What did she really do?? Only Dynasty!

The hilarious thing is that Joan Collins completely rewrote her past history after she got famous with Dynasty, She claims to have been a proper young girl in Hollywood, difficult to get even with Frank Sinatra and NEVER did the casting couch (her words)...Hahhha Please, she was known as" Open Joan" in Hollywood, who Eddie Fisher randomly fucked her in the pool.

Shirley Jones wrote in her book that she along with her husband Jack Cassidy had an orgy and drug party with Joan Collins and her husband at the time in Joan's house (with Joan and her husband suggesting the idea). Joan Collins got angry with this story and demanded Shirley to take out that part from the book.

I'm also sure that Helmut Berger knows a thing or two about what kind of meetings/parties they used to attend together in 1968. Joan acting as if she was above Helmut or never known or met him before, completely snubbing him because he is not at same level of her now is the Ultimate hypocrisy and fakeness (who was the star back then when Helmut knew Linda and Joan back in the 1970s?).

R104 "You are talking about people from three different cultures, one of whom is quite enthusiastic about opiates."

This has nothing to do with the different cultures or drug addiction , read R100 post.

I don't know... When I am sending someone a Christmas gift I expect a Thank you. If it doesn't happen, I feel insulted. If I am sending two Christmas gifts, and both ladies don't respond, my first reaction wouldn't be insult. I would wonder if they didn't receive it. A logistical error sounds more likely than a double-insult. Maybe the gifts weren't even sent.

The other thing... from what I remember he only stayed for 6 episodes, and I'm not even sure he was in one scene with Collins. He was a coke head, poorly prepared to a point that he held up production. That's the story as I remember it. Everybody probably just tried to stay away from him as far as possible.

Also, he was not written off the show because PSM had quit. His run was over way before she left. He was just the temporary distraction to keep Fallon away from Jeff. Fallon found back to Jeff after DeVilbis was revealed as a cheat, remember? He was contracted for six episodes, and he didn't add enough to want him for more. Most guest stars stay for just six episodes.

I think time and coke fooled his memory.

R111 "he was not written off the show because PSM had quit."

Huh, He Never said this. That's what he said: "They didn't know how to get a grip on me despite significant threats of the typical Hollywood Hardness and sweet palaver to make me docile. The Opposite! So they revealed to me that I too would have my character written off soon."

Also "I had to come to the office every second day. They told me that my role would slowly disappear, if I would not do what they said. I answered: 'You really believe that I stay at home and don't meet my friends? Really? Heil Hitler.'

"He was contracted for six episodes"

No, they wrote his character off because he didn't obey their orders. There was No definitive storyline beforehand to know how long his character will remain, The actors received their script every morning on the day of the shooting.

"If I am sending two Christmas gifts, and both ladies don't respond, my first reaction wouldn't be insult. I would wonder if they didn't receive it. Maybe the gifts weren't even sent."

Others had responded to his Christmas gifts so apparently Joan and Linda were just being rude cunts.

"I think time and coke fooled his memory."

I think time had clouded and fooled your comprehension skills.

The mental gymnastic in this thread is unbelievable.

I'm curious what he thinks about Heather Locklear. Did he give her a gift? If so, did she express the appropriate amount of thankfulness?

R113 Heather might not have been on at the time. Remember, she was alternating between Dynasty and TJ Hooker. Heather did show up later in the season. I remember the tiff between her and Fallon at La Mirage before Pamela left.

He was horrible on the show. Season four is wretched. It's hard to believe now that this was the season that was leading the show to #1 in the ratings because the show was absolute shit at this point.

Helmut Berger was in nine episodes of Dynasty.

".... before he went to America to work in television in the role of Peter De Vilbis in nine episodes (1983–1984) of the American prime time soap opera Dynasty, which he said he did only for money. He would later say he was "crying on the way to the set but laughing on the way to the bank"

R115 Compared to the back end of the show post Moldavia (even though it had a creative renaissance its last season) season 4 is Shakespeare. Dynasty was always junk food entertainment, like all of Spellings show. As they lost more of the actors, who made the show fun, and the writing further deteriorated, it became just junk. Season 1-5 and 9 at least were in the believability realm. I never took Dynasty too seriously. It was more about a lifestyle than anything else.

He should be grateful his autobiography found a publisher. I mean, who was waiting for this book? Hope he received a healthy advance.

I’d like to hear Linda and Joan’s side of the story. Maybe he was a cunt to them.

R118 He is famous in Europe.

Of course, it was not difficult to find a publisher in Germany (released in 1999) or France (released in 2015).

R119 I've read what Joan Collins had to say about Helmut Berger and his time in Dynasty in one of her books, Sorry to disappoint you, she didn't say anything about Helmut being a "cunt" to her.

Does he talk about Capucine OP.? They spent a lot of time running in the same crowd in Rome.

R122 Yes, He mentioned her, they ran in the same circle.

Only mentioned? Does he talk about her depression and suicide?

R124 From what I remember I don't think he talked about her in detail or there was anything significant about her in the book but she was mentioned as a part of the social circle he ran into. I don't think they were close friends.

Merci

[quote] He is famous in Europe.

I think people age 50 and up know his name, and a handful probably saw his work. But he is not a household name. I don't think he was ever considered A-list, maybe B at the most. For Americans, imagine an actor who is solely famous for being in Woody Allen movies. You are respected, but not that well known. Berger was most famous in the 70s, at the time he did Dynasty he was already a has been. What got him the book deal was all the dirt he knows from the parties.

The only movie I've seen him in is "Ash Wednesday" with Elizabeth Taylor.

R127 He's not a household name, but he's well known in Europe. and Yes, there is still interest in him in Europe, whether you liked it or not, to have his biography published in 1999 in Germany, and then translated in French and reissued in France in 2015.

In America, He's only known to those who love and watch old European/foreign films.

It's not a statistic though, Those who don't know him and are not interested in him can simply get out of the thread and fuck off. It's simple.

R126 Avec plaisir!

Joan Collins Talks about Helmut Berger in "Second act" book:

Another star brought into Dynasty to add more heat was the German actor Helmut Berger, whom I'd known for many years: he was beautiful, sensitive, mad as a hatter and enormous fun.

He'd had a varied career since being discovered in 1969 by Luchino Visconti, who had cast him in The Damned, when he'd become a cult icon because of his wickedly dazzling looks.

Helmut made no secret of his penchant for night-clubs and carousing, and back in the seventies we'd done our fair share together in Paris and Rome. Always surrounded by a laughing group. I used to dance the night away with him at Régine's.

Helmut was great company and I was delighted that he was going to be in Dynasty playing Peter de Villes, Fallon’s latest boyfriend.

‘Hello, darling,’ a vaguely familiar voice rasped one morning. It was 6 a.m., and, clutching a cup of coffee, I was em route to my dressing room to begin the tweaking process. A skinny, pale, tired-looking creature stood in the doorway of his trailer.

“Hi.” I wasn’t inclined to chat to someone I didn’t know and before my morning caffeine fix. I continued walking.

‘It’s Helmut!” He bounded down the steps to give me a European bear hug. ‘Don’t you recognize me, darling?’

We greeted each other, both secretly analyzing each other's washed-out morning faces.

R131, so Joan thought he was okay...., which makes me suspect that maybe it was a misunderstanding

Did he send a present to Karen Cellini when she joined the cast as the new Amanda? Did she send him a properly appreciative thank you letter?

[quote] the German actor Helmut Berger, whom I'd known for many years

Except... he is Austrian

He hugged me, and off we went to make ourselves beautiful.

After few weeks, word filtered back from the set that Helmut was having problems with the producers. Helmut didn't want to curtail his partying and he couldn't keep up with the fast pace of American television production.

It was like a factory here and we're the product. We’ve got to get ten minutes of film in the can each day and if we don’t manage it by six or seven o’clock, we'll go on shooting until we do.

One day he confronted me. He looked fabulous, the excesses to which he openly admitted didn't show.

“Why are they doing this to me, daarling? he asked. ‘Tell me the truth—please.’

It wasn’t my business to tell him the truth, but I asked him, ‘Were you out on the tiles again last night, darling?”

He smiled endearingly, the consummate little-boy-lost.

‘Of course, daarling. Camilla had a wonderful party.'

"We can only party in this town on Friday and Saturday nights.”

‘Boring, daarling—too, too boring.’ He jumped into his red convert- ible. “There's more to life than acting.”

Off Topic but this part is about Ali MacGraw from Joan Collin's book:

Ali was a fabulous girl—warm, witty and down-to- earth, but overly modest about her own talent. She gave up movies when she met and married Steve McQueen. Since their divorce she had seldom worked. As I keep saying, our business is unbelievably precarious, and Ali was a prime example of the fickleness of both the public and the producers.

Ali was understandably nervous on her first day. Our great mutual friend, Sue Mengers, had told me to ‘be nice to Ali’.

Ali had been brought in as a potential love-interest for Blake. Ever since Krystle had had a fling with Rock Hudson's character, ABC wanted to show the other side of the coin.

When John Forsythe saw the script in which he begins a romantic flirtation with Ali, he threw a wobbly and demanded script changes. He still believed that Blake would never, ever look at another woman, so Ali’s scenes were soon sliced to ribbons and the romance was nipped in the bud. Ali was kept around for decoration.

... During the lavish wedding, in which all the Dynasty cast are present, a group of terrorists bursts in through the windows, machine-gunning the entire congregation. The final shot is of everyone lying on top of each other, completely motionless, playing dead. none of us knew whether we had survived or been killed in the massacre. I was off to France, but in the middle of renegotiating my Dynasty contract, I still didn’t have a clue as to Alexis’s fate.

The end-of-season Dynasty party was held at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. At the end of the evening, Aaron Spelling went to the dais to bring on John Forsythe, who then introduced all the other actors. One by one we all went up to take a bow.

Then John said, ‘And now a lovely lady who, unfortunately, will not be back with us next sea- son—Miss Ali McGraw.’

An ashen-faced Ali walked slowly up to the dais. Everyone stood up to applaud her but Ali looked shattered. Her huge brown eyes were wide as a child’s and she seemed on the point of tears.

I was no longer in the mood for carousing. I was the biggest star on the planet, dammit.

....

R137 No one asked you to carouse, you old hag. A simple Thank you for my Christmas gift would have been enough, Bitch.

Joan is such a trip.

Most shows are notoriously unwelcoming to guest stars, but it does seem odd that he wasn't welcomed as an old friend by a couple of exs, even if he seemed haggard.

It would have been funny if the queen had given her honors specifically for that film with the giant fiberglass ants. You'd hope that Elizabeth was able to have some fun with her job and perhaps was a fan of "drive-in" movies.

Off Topic: Joan Collins Talks about Rock Hudson in Dynasty:

Rock Hudson was a promiscuous closet queen. Over the years, his wild homosexual parties became the stuff of legend in Hollywood for the battalions of gorgeous young studs he'd always invite. I went to one of his famous costume parties in the late fifties. it was there I first met the devastatingly gorgeous young Elvis Presley. Elvis, a well brought-up boy, seemed almost stunned as I was by the excesses at Rock’s party.

In 1985, though, pushing sixty, Rock’s stunning looks had long since gone. I sat beside him in the make-up room on his first day of Dynasty, watching out of the corner of my eye as he stared gloomily into the mirror at his ravaged features.

Jack Freeman, the make-up man, was attempting to Polyfill that once beautiful face for a love scene with Linda. I thought that he had his work cut out as Rock looked terrible: gaunt, hollow-eyed and much too thin. He looked exhausted, like a man who'd been on a severe bender for a month.

He chain-smoked during his make-over, and we chatted politely about our own forthcoming scence. The entire time he sat there, he scratched himself continuously and rubbed his back up and down against the leather chair. This was unusual, to say the least, and I wondered what the problem could be.

After he had left, Gerald Solomon, my hairdresser, whispered, ‘I’ve heard he's gor AIDS.’

‘I'm not quite sure what that is,’ I said.

‘Neither am I, but I hear it’s deadly,’ responded Gerald.

In the early eighties, few people knew anything about AIDS. how it was contracted or how contagious it was.

‘Don't touch any of those brushes,” Gerald warned, as he and Jack disinfected their professional equipment more thoroughly than usual.

‘But how can one catch it?’ I asked.

Gerald, who was openly gay, shrugged. ‘No one really knows—but they say you may be able to get it by touching someone who has it, or drinking from the same glass, or even using cutlery an infected person has used.’

Linda came in and we both listened solemnly to Gerald's theories. A highly infectious disease for which there was no known cure was pretty scary.

Linda was uncharacteristically silent as she prepared for her love scene with Rock, which was to be shot after my next sequence.

After we wrapped our scene, I went over to Rock and Linda's set. where the tension was palpable.

They rehearsed up to the embrace, But when they finally kissed, Rock pulled out every stop. He embraced Linda fiercely, kissing her with aggressive passion.

As the saintly Krystle, who has never been unfaithful to Blake, Linda was supposed to struggle to escape from him, but Rock was almost savage in his love-making.

"She could catch it! I hissed,

Gerald nodded and said. ‘I only hope he doesn’t bite her.’

As soon as Irving called, ‘Cut. OK, kids, that’s a print,’ Linda dashed to the bathroom where she spent fifteen minutes brushing her teeth, gar- gling with antiseptic and scrubbing her face.

On the Dynasty set, we watched Rock's disintegration, Each week he seemed weaker, more vulnerable, his face horribly drawn, but he still wouldn’t admit he had the disease; he carried on smoking forty cigarettes a day and slugging back neat vodka like a sailor on shore leave.

Two weeks later I had to shoot another scene with him. By now he was so frail that he had to sit down between each shot, and so emaciated that his clothes hung on him as if he were no more than a wire coat- hanger—.A few weeks later he went for more treatment to the American Hospital in Paris but returned to the US because there was still no cure.

When Andy Cohen once asked Joan Collins during a Plead the 5th segment which actor she ever worked with had the worst breath, she responded John Forsythe.

Helmut Berger with Pamela Bellwood

Sad Helmut Berger holding his Dynasty script.

R133 they weren’t on the show at the same time. Helmet even predated Catherine Oxenberg on the set.

Helmut ^

I prefer his brother, Ham.

That's how they have written off Pamela Sue Martin as Fallon from Dynasty at the end of 4th season (replacing her reduced role by Emma Samms in the 5th season):

End of 4th season: Claudia tries to warn Fallon about Peter's wandering eye, but her pleas fall on deaf ears. As Peter abruptly flees from Denver, an inconsolable Fallon gets hit by a car.

While the family rushes to the hospital to be with Fallon, Blake goes on a mission to catch Peter. Fallon continues to experience aftershocks from her accident.

Fallon suffers another blinding headache, runs out of the house and has a tragic car accident.

5th season (Fallon is now played by Emma Samms and only appears at the end), ridiculous plot hahhaaaa

Jeff goes after Fallon and finds her car wrecked by the side of a road after a collision with a truck but Fallon is gone......Blake and Jeff continue to search for Fallon.

Blake tells Alexis and the rest of the family that Fallon has died in a plane crash with Peter De Vilbis. Fallon's funeral is held.

Jeff meets Nicole Simpson, who is secretly Peter De Vilbis's estranged widow. When Nicole tells Jeff that Peter was with one of his mistresses in Seattle before the plane crash, he wonders if it's possible it was she who died on the plane and that Fallon could still be alive.

An amnesiac Fallon (now played by Emma Samms) begs the LAPD for help...... Meanwhile back in Los Angeles, a woman stops by the Los Angeles Police Department needing help identifying herself: Fallon Carrington.

J'adore the Helmut Berger Troll.

Fallon? I thought the bitch's name was Randall!

R141 "Most shows are notoriously unwelcoming to guest stars, but it does seem odd that he wasn't welcomed as an old friend by a couple of exs, even if he seemed haggard."

John Forsythe, Pamela Sue Martin and Pamela Bellwood were nice and friendly to Helmut Berger. Only, the so called queens of the show Linda Evans and Joan Collins (who were old friends to Helmut) with their super-inflated ego, lacking loyalty and consideration to some old friend, felt they were above his level now, he was no longer of any use to them. So they gave him the rude "I don't know you" treatment even to the extent of not thanking him for a thoughtful gift.

Making business without a soul like Helmut said.

I remember an interview with Joan Collins in the 1980s (I think Johnny Carson show?), Joan was telling excitedly this story about attending a party hosted by a Hollywood friend but then she and every guest in the party quickly left when they heard that Michael Jackson (yes) was in another party and they were all excited and wanted to see him.

In Hollywood, They are all whores who are only after the hot big star of the moment. Friendship and loyalty be damned.

Was he named Helmut because he was circumcised?

R157, Yes, Rose.

Helmut is is a common given name in the German. It means Protector of the spirit.

Would you still do him, Helmut Berger Troll?

Don't do him Berger Troll! He will just claim having given you a gift and not being thanked for.

Peter DeVilbis Makes a Pass at Claudia

Dynasty CatFight

Why on earth was DeVilbis ever trying to hit on dreary Claudia in provincial Denver?

[quote] Joan never asked if I needed anything. Information or maybe even her help.

And how insulted would he have been if she had so denigrated his natural talent He's a star.

R154 Coin.

Joan avoided Helmut because she feared he'd steal her man. She was dating (and the following year married) Peter Holm.

R167 Hahaaa

BTW, Brigitte Bardot said in her book that Helmut Berger stole one of her boyfriends!

Blake Tells Alexis Fallon Is Dead (They thought Fallon has died with Peter DeVilbis in the plan crash).

Fallon's Funeral (The acting is so ridiculous and hilarious!)

R170, As over the top as La Lucci's acting when Mona Kane died.

At 2:21

Jeff to Fallon at the funeral: "Why Fallon, why did you leave me? you never loved me, If you loved me, you wouldn't have left me for that bum, you Bitch" LMAO

I've never seen a full episode of Dynasty, just clips on YouTube. Was John Forsythe always a block of wood onscreen, or are they just picking bad scenes for him?

R173 Looking back now, All their acting was ridiculous.

" But when they finally kissed, Rock pulled out every stop. He embraced Linda fiercely, kissing her with aggressive passion......but Rock was almost savage in his love-making."

Savage love making?? Joan Collins is a big LIAR, Rock kissed Linda very lightly, just barely touching lips, because he was afraid he will infect her. The kiss scene is below in the link.

Linda Evans Talks about this in an interview with Larry King:

EVANS: I did a guest shot with Rock Hudson years and years before, and a kind of interesting thing with Rock that I felt was he's a prankster, and when the director was coming in to do the scene, we were in a box car. We were in a train.

And he said, "Let's play a joke on him. When he comes in, let's be in a passionate kiss."

I said, "OK."

So the director walked in, and he threw me down on the couch and he gave me this passionate kiss. And the director laughed, and everybody was laughing about -- about the joke.

And so when we did "Dynasty" and they asked him to have this big romantic moment with me and be passionate, and he kissed me, he just kissed me like this. And I thought, "That's funny. I mean, last time I kissed him, he was just this passionate kind of Rock Hudson guy." And I thought, "OK."

They saw the dailies, and they came back a couple weeks later, and they said, "We'd like to do that scene over, and we'd like you to be more passionate."

I said, "I can't be more passionate, because I'm the one who's just laying there on the ground. He has to be."

They explained it to him. We do it again. He does the same thing. He did it because he knew he had AIDS. And because over the years we were such good friends. And I'd -- you know, whenever I'd be at a party or anything, I'd sit and we'd talk together and everything. He was trying to protect me in his own way.

And people were just so upset, they said, "Why? Aren't you mad at him for doing that to you?" And I knew he was trying to protect me.

KING: What a story. Did the scene run?

EVANS: Yes, the scene ran. But they never felt it was what they wanted from it.

Ali McGraw was dreadful in Dynasty. I know she's a nice decent woman but she can't act.

R176, LOL! What memories...

R176, I laughed out loud when Ali received an Oscar nomination for Best Actress for "Love Story".

Online comments on Helmut Berger's character in Dynasty:

"Helmut Berger was miserably underused, Peter should have euro-trashed Fallon, I wanted him in the Carrington mansion, spending Fallon's money, barking orders at the staff, snorting coke, walking around in his underwear - everything the worst of the worst. But I think Peter could have upset those clean, 80s Carringtons a little bit more. Who cares about that horse anyway."

" I agree that Peter should have introduced Fallon to cocaine (and not how to fly a plane) and also seduce Krystle rather than Claudia (in order to revive - even briefly - the animosity between those two)"

"I love Peter de Vilbis, especially the name. It sounded like what he turned out to be: a big piece of sleaze and euro-trash, and a nasty viper. The problem with him is that he was too realistic, so much more for such a kitsch show like "Dynasty". The things he did, everybody did (and still does) in Hollywood...If he had been revealed as a psycho, Knots-style, or an alien who did the first "encounter" with Fallon that season, we all would be loving him to death. But we don´t, because he was just a "meh" nasty little beech who messed up with our fav Dy-lady (Fallon)."

I'm just shocked when he stated that they got their scripts in the mornings. How the hell can you expect quality work if the actors aren't given their lines until they are about to get on stage?

I can't decide which character was worse on the show, Peter DeVilbis or Dominique Devereux! Pure caca!

I loved both Peter DeVilbis and Dominique Devereux. The character I couldn't stand was Claudia.

Has anyone seen the Helmut B. documentary where he jerks off on camera?