ELECTION 2020 Part 24

The Biggest Trump Financial Mystery? Where He Came Up With the Cash for His Scottish Resorts.

[quote] Scottish lawmakers are pushing to peer into Trump’s finances using an anti-money-­laundering statute typically employed against kleptocrats, oligarchs, and crime kingpins. Their question: Where did the hundreds of millions Trump poured into his Scottish courses actually come from?

[quote] The New Yorker estimated that Trump would have spent half his available cash on the purchase of Turnberry alone, concluding there wasn’t “enough money coming into Trump’s known business to cover the massive outlay he spent” renovating the property.

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[quote] And the mystery deepens. Martyn McLaughlin, a Glasgow-based reporter for the Scotsman newspaper, discovered that in 2008 Trump approached a Scottish bank asking for a $63 million loan to buy and renovate a historic hotel overlooking the final hole of St. Andrews, the most famous golf course in the world. The terms he proposed were so ludicrously favorable to him that bank executives concluded Trump was asking for a “free loan,” and doing business with the developer was “too risky.” Meanwhile, Trump was touting his “very strong” cash position and his representatives were telling the Scottish public that he had more than $1 billion available to spend in their country. (The Trump Organization did not respond to questions from Mother Jones.)

[quote] This February, a group of Scottish Parliament members began making the case that Scotland should use an investigative tool under UK law called an Unexplained Wealth Order (UWO) to scrutinize Trump’s transactions.

[quote]The Milnes now fly a Mexican flag (next to the Saltire, the Scottish flag) outside their home, within view of the Trump clubhouse.

Top quality trolling.

This is the actions of an alpha male? He got his ass kicked and has been crying ever since.

These are the actions of an alpha wuss.

It’s all over but the crying.

That's gonna be my favorite part r5.

Yes, I will be so happy when the entire family is forced into exile.

1. Say publicly that you won the election despite all evidence that Biden won. 2. File a bunch of nuisance lawsuits. 3. As suits are thrown out of court, tell lawyers to keep appealing until one gets to the Supreme Court. 4. ? 5. Trump wins another term!

Even if the USSC took up a case, which is unlikely, it would not lead to Trump winning the electoral college. It would only apply to that one state. And the high court is unlikely to take up any of these cases since they ask for all the votes to be thrown out.

SCOTUSblog said today that there is absolutely no chance that SCOTUS will hear the PA case.

[quote] 2/ Mitchell says he spoke days ago with Norman Shinkle, one of the two GOP members of the Michigan Board of State Canvassers. Shinkle indicated last week he would vote against certifying the election results, Mitchell says, until an investigation is completed...

[quote] 3/ This is being done, Mitchell says, so as to push a delay *even though there is no evidence of fraud or malfeasance that would necessitate such a move.* Depending on how the other GOP member of the board, Aaron Van Langevelde, votes, Mitchell tells CNN...

[quote] 4/ ... either members of the Trump team (1) end up delaying the certification of the election results or (2) they have something that they can point to as evidence of unfairness, even if it isn’t.

[quote] “It’s a win-win” for the Trump team, Mitchell says

Good tv viewing tomorrow.

@GSAEmily Murphy will appear before Congress tomorrow to answer questions about her decision to withhold approval for the transition.

And who will be among those questioning her?

None other than the ever fabulous

@RepKatiePorter

R12 I don’t think that’s true. They asked for written explanations from the pig on why she’s delaying the transition but she isn’t appearing before congress. Yet. That’s the next step of the pig’s answers aren’t good enough, which I’m sure they won’t be. Hope they have the double wide chairs ready.

She's either going to cry or have a nervous breakdown on camera.

[quote] tell lawyers to keep appealing until one gets to the Supreme Court.

R8 Even if that happened, one case from one state wouldn't decrease Biden's 306 electors enough. .. This isn't Florida 2000 where the split was 271-266.

Re Michigan, their sole responsibility under the law is to certify. If they vote not to certify, they will most like be fired and replaced.

[quote]Shinkle indicated last week he would vote against certifying the election results,

Gov. Whitmer has the authority to replace members of the Board without approval of the legislature. Also, the Biden campaign can petition a court for a writ of mandamus ordering the Board to certify the election results.

I never liked Jake Tapper before this election cycle but recently started to watch him more and he can be fabulously bitchy both on camera and on Twitter. There is a gay man trapped in that body somewhere. And insuspect he's a DLer.

Please welcome to the stage: RITA MANDAMUS

I don’t like bitchy males. Tapper is just speaking the Truth

^ look in the mirror Mary

I'd spread it for Jake.

You lost. Won't miss your ugly mug.

Is she DINAH CANCER'S sister, r19?

The Trump campaign just put out a statement saying that Sidney Powell isn't part of their team.

I guess she finally went a little too nuts publicly.

Sounds like Rudy was threatened by her bigger dick.

Please bear in mind, she was at the press conference where the Elite Strike Force announced their plans to Release the Kraken.

Honest to God, if this wasn't so damaging, it would be pathetic.

She is too off the rails even for them.

Rudy is pretty fucking crazy too. What does he get to stick around?

Maybe they looked at her “biblical” lawsuit and realized it was completely nuts.

Worst. Elite Strike Force. Ever.

[quote] The Trump campaign just put out a statement saying that Sidney Powell isn't part of their team. I guess she finally went a little too nuts publicly.

[quote] first they came for Sidney Powell and I did not speak out— because I was laughing so hard I couldn't catch my breath

[quote] Powell lasted 72.7% of a Scaramucci.

first they came for Sidney Powell and I did not speak out— because I was laughing so hard I couldn't catch my breath

This is awesome. Protest outside Kemp's home. Kinda wish Sidney wasn't canned

Well bless her heart in the most Southern sense of the phrase.

[quote]PUT THE KRAKEN BACK IN! SUBMERGE THE KRAKEN!"

Never forget Trump bragged about her being on his team

[quote] The Sidney Powell situation is classic Trump. Coerce people into lying, and then fire them for following his instructions. A death cult where everyone drinks the poison except for him.

Murkowski just gave a pretty unambiguous statement about it being time to pack it in.

Susan Collins is determining her current level of concern.

Mother Jones:

For all the fantastical falsehoods Powell has told, this one may cross a line for McConnell and top Republicans, who seem happy to let Trump’s lawyers chip away at faith in the electoral system as long as their crazy lies are aimed at Dems and don’t hurt in Ga. runoffs.

Jake Tapper:

Since the WH and GOP are currently letting folks from the fever swamps lead the deranged effort to overturn the election results, they should probably be aware of what's coming for them.

To wit, @KLoeffler, they want your election overturned too:

@RonBrownstein · 42m After saying he didn't want to interfere in the process, the MI GOP House Speaker sends a clear signal to the Rs on the state canvassing board voting Monday: block the certification of Biden's 155k vote win & if MI SSC doesn't get in the way, we'll tilt the state for Trump He sends a clear message for the R's on the canvassing board to demand some kind of audit b4 certifying & holds open the prospect that the state legislature can step in unless the MI SSC orders certification. You can't be much more overt. It's not just Trump: lots of Rs bending

So when it's all over, everyone gets to slap this bitch, right? Isn't that in the Constitution?

Or is that the Drag Queen Constitution? You try to steal the crown, everyone gets to smack a bitch.

I am hoping the younger Republican on the Michigan certifying board votes with the two Democrats to certify. The older Republican one is a Trump fanatic and is a lost cause.

[quote]If they vote not to certify, they will most like be fired and replaced.

Which benefits Trump in that he can make it look like the Democrats are firing people and putting their own people in place to effect a cover up.

[quote]I never liked Jake Tapper before this election cycle but recently started to watch him more and he can be fabulously bitchy both on camera and on Twitter

There's an 'oral history' type article about CNN's election week (linked), and in it he talks about how the other networks which failed the American people and CNN is the one who was holding Trump's feet to the fire, which is such deluded bullshit. So he's massively full of himself.

Are they asking for riots in Detroit? That would be a very bad move to disenfranchise 2.8M voters that chose Biden by a large margin.

I think they’d be thrilled with black people rioting.

[quote] NEWS: Biden to name longtime aide Tony Blinken as secretary of state. Jake Sullivan is likely to be named national security adviser. Scoop with @tylerpager and @SalehaMohsin .

I guess Christie would know about "national embarrassments".

Giuliani is starting to look like Colonel Klink.

[quote]NEWS: Biden to name longtime aide Tony Blinken as secretary of state. Jake Sullivan is likely to be named national security adviser. Scoop with @tylerpager and @SalehaMohsin .

Trump has been asking why Biden is choosing Cabinet members when the election results aren't known yet.

[quote]Biden to name longtime aide Tony Blinken as secretary of state.

Mike Winken and Elizabeth Nod as his deputies, no doubt.

Thursday you are the featured speaker at the Trump legal team news conference.

Sunday, "I don't know her."

What a shitshow.

Oh pooh. I was looking forward to the biblical lawsuit.

[quote]Thursday you are the featured speaker at the Trump legal team news conference.

[quote]Sunday, "I don't know her."

Perhaps Sondheim can write some new lyrics for her.

I got through Sydney Powell's crap shpiel

And I'm heeeeeereee!

[quote]Oh pooh. I was looking forward to the biblical lawsuit.

Sounds like she’s still planning to go biblical.

I saw this tweet a few days ago, but I did not know the author's position:

[quote]Having practiced law for almost 2 decades as a member of the State Bar of Texas, I’ve never known fellow TX lawyer @ SidneyPowell1 to be anything but forthright and honest in every case she’s ever taken on. If she says there is rampant voter fraud in # Election2020, I believe her. - Trey Trainor

He's chairman of the FEC.

Trainor is the one who decided churches can endorse political candidates without jeopardizing their tax-exempt status.

Thinks the elections are a spiritual war.

So gain of salt.

[quote]If she says there is rampant voter fraud in # Election2020, I believe her. - Trey Trainor

I'm sure there was rampant fraud, all of it engineered by Republicans.

R38: Those are some bad front teeth, natural OR man-made!

Tomorrow is going to be a shitshow, especially in Michigan. I hope the MI AG already has the court papers ready to go because I do not seeing the board certifying the results, even tho by law they are required to.

R38 I was distracted by the eyebrows, missed the teeth.

Rashia Tlaib already has a problem with Anthony Blinken, who's Jewish.

Brad Heath (Reuters):

President Trump's appeal of a judge's brutal rejection of his efforts to overturn Pennsylvania's election -- the one his lawyers said would get them to the Supreme Court -- is *only* about whether the judge should have given them leave to fix a complaint his lawyers screwed up.

Brad Heath (Reuters):

So the big election-rigging case President Trump wants to tee up for the Supreme Court is actually whether his lawyers should have gotten permission to fix a filing they screwed up.

[quote] Rashia Tlaib already has a problem with Anthony Blinken, who's Jewish.

So is 6% of her own caucus and 2% of her own district. He's the son (grandson?) of a Holocaust survivor.

Does she have an issue with a specific policy position or is she just grandstanding before the official announcement is even out?

It would serve us all well if we stop giving air time to nobodies like Rashia Tlaib.

Democratic congresswoman Rashida Tlaib reacted to the news by tweeting: “So long as he doesn’t suppress my First Amendment right to speak out against Netanyahu’s racist and inhumane policies.” Seems reasonable...

[bold]Scoop: Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman says Trump lost[/bold]

It's over. That's what Blackstone chairman, CEO and co-founder Steve Schwarzman — one of President Trump's most loyal allies — and other top Republicans are signaling to the defeated president, 16 days after Joe Biden clinched the win.

Why it matters: It’s all theatrics now. Even if Trump doesn't move on fast, you can. It is safe to ignore the fearful Republicans who insist the process is legit and plausible, because they tell us privately it is not.

Driving the news: Schwarzman said in a statement to Axios that Biden won and it's time to move on.

"I'm a fan of good process," Schwarzman said. "In my comments three days after the election, I was trying to be a voice of reason and express why it's in the national interest to have all Americans believe the election is being resolved correctly. But the outcome is very certain today, and the country should move on."

"I supported President Trump and the strong economic path he built. Like many in the business community, I am ready to help President-elect Biden and his team as they confront the significant challenges of rebuilding our post-COVID economy."

Schwarzman's signal is more meaningful in Trumpworld than any of the messages so far from corporate America.

Trump's top aides have undisguised contempt for some establishment business groups. But not Schwarzman. He has been a close confidant of Trump's throughout his presidency.

The legal insanity: For more than 24 hours — until it became too much even for Rudy Giuliani to tolerate — the publicly-stated position of President Trump's legal team was that the reason Trump lost Georgia is because Gov. Brian Kemp (R) has been bribed by a Venezuelan front company in cahoots with the CIA to throw elections to Communists.

More than that, in the telling by now-former Trump legal adviser Sidney Powell (ditched in a statement by the campaign last night), these dastardly Communists have manipulated American voting machines to switch millions of votes from Trump to Joe Biden.

Yes, that's correct. You didn't read that wrong. We are not pranking you.

This is literally what the Trump legal team is arguing. Watch this Newsmax clip and this press conference appearance from Powell.

The dangerous reality is that there is a large audience for this conspiracy theory. Far-right commentators attacked Fox' News' Tucker Carlson for daring to suggest that Powell should provide evidence to support her allegation of what would be the biggest crime in American history.

Longtime Trump ally Chris Christie said on ABC's "This Week": "[T]he conduct of the president's legal team has been a national embarrassment."

Senior people in Trumpworld agree. A source familiar with the situation said the Trump legal team had been arguing vociferously with each other on phone calls with the president.

And Powell hadn’t shown anybody senior in Trumpworld the evidence to support her grand claims of an international communist conspiracy.

Notice that few key campaign and White House officials have been publicly endorsing this legal strategy.

Ask yourself: When is the last time you heard from Jared? Or Ivanka? In private, they have long known it was over.

Forgot the link.

~R72

[quote] Democratic congresswoman Rashida Tlaib reacted to the news by tweeting: “So long as he doesn’t suppress my First Amendment right to speak out against Netanyahu’s racist and inhumane policies.” Seems reasonable...

From what I understand, Biden is pro Israel but views Netanyahu as corrosive to them as 45 has been to America.

I'm also of the opinion that Talib has a First Amendment right to STFU.

[quote]Democratic congresswoman Rashida Tlaib reacted to the news by tweeting: “So long as he doesn’t suppress my First Amendment right to speak out against Netanyahu’s racist and inhumane policies.” Seems reasonable...

She's not wrong, though....

[quote]I'm also of the opinion that Talib has a First Amendment right to STFU.

As do you r74.

@mattmxhn remember when all the hispanic undecideds were gonna break for biden

sigh

Talib is a LOUDMOUTH with very little to show for her first term other than making headlines by saying outrageous things

[quote]“So long as he doesn’t suppress my First Amendment right to speak out against Netanyahu’s racist and inhumane policies.”

Is Mr. Blinken on record advocating for the suspension of First Amendment rights when it comes to criticizing Netanyahu ... or does the Congresswoman assume that this is the default position of all Jews?

The attorney heading up Trump campaign's Wisconsin recount effort is seeking to throw out his own vote.

Jim Troupis voted illegally according to his own legal argument that in-person absentee ballots should be thrown out. So did his wife.

He would not answer questions about why he and his wife voted that way.

[quote] And Powell hadn’t shown anybody senior in Trumpworld the evidence to support her grand claims of an international communist conspiracy.

Oh, so NOW they want evidence...

[quote]Jim Troupis voted illegally according to his own legal argument that in-person absentee ballots should be thrown out. So did his wife.

Whoops! I guess that invalidates Trump's and Melania's votes as well.

[quote] Is Mr. Blinken on record advocating for the suspension of First Amendment rights when it comes to criticizing Netanyahu ... or does the Congresswoman assume that this is the default position of all Jews?

Maybe the Congresswoman should watch more Sesame Street:

For the appeal of the Pennsylvania "Frankenstein Monster" case Trump lawyers appear to be depending on Twitter for legal advice.

Brad Heath@bradheath

[quote]Trump's lawyers say they didn't intend the very narrow nature of their appeal to waive any of many other issues on which they lost in the district court. The filing came several hours after lawyers pointed out to them on Twitter that they had probably done this.

[quote]She's not wrong, though....

How exactly can the SoS can suppress her 1A right to speak out against anyone, especially in Congress?

At least make a statement with a little bit of plausibility.

The shenanigans have begun! 2 republicans voted against certification in a county in PA that trump won by 20k votes. The 3 dems passed to certify. The next 48 hours are going to be chaotic and infuriating. Just remember that biden has won every legal case so far and there’s no standing to delay certification

Trump's plans for after 01/20/2020.

Georgia released its slate of electors.

Stacey Abrams is the first one. In fairness, because the list of alphabetical. But still.

"Which party has become more extreme over the last four years?"

Among Democrats: GOP: 53% Dems: 47%

Among Republicans: Dems: 72% GOP: 28%

Seven Letter Insight / November 19, 2020 / n=1500 / Online

First Cabinet picks. Mostly a bunch of non-politicians, just federal careerists. The DNI would be the first woman.

I think that's actually a good call. Trump has decimated the agencies and it makes sense to put people who know how things work in charge.

John Kerry as Climate Envoy is well deserved, though.

By that photo of Linda Thomas-Greenfield, I'd say Kenan Thompson has a new character to play for the next four years.

Good to see that Climate Czar (?) has a seat at table for natl security

Why not Al Gore for climate czar instead of Kerry.

Kerry helped negotiate the Paris Agreement.

Michigan board meeting at 1. Fully expecting them NOT to certify. The MI speaker of the house basically gave them the go ahead. The coup is progressing.

It would be poetic justice if the Democrat Governor (aka "That Woman") would fire those who said "no" to certification and appointed others.

[quote]By that photo of Linda Thomas-Greenfield, I'd say Kenan Thompson has a new character to play for the next four years.

Right. Because SNL so often does skits about the United Nations.

R97- Takes shits in the guest toilet at parties and doesn't flush.

Live stream of the MI Board of Canvassers meeting

They're taking public comments before voting, so this is going to take forever

It appears possible that certification will happen today after all. The other Republican made a comment about the "duty" to certify.

So, it'll likely be 3-1, but it doesn't have to be a majority.

The new WH Social Secretary has DL written all over him.

The one MI guy is looking for ANY possible reason not to certify. He’s listing right wing talking points. What a mess. What is this person doing on this board?

Sidney Powell has it on good authority that Biden will be conceding today.

You just can't make this shit up.

Mrs. Betty Bowers @BettyBowers

EXCLUSIVE: Plans for the "Donald J. Trump Presidential Library" are revealed.

[quote]EXCLUSIVE: Plans for the "Donald J. Trump Presidential Library" are revealed.

FAKE! There's no way the presidential tanning booth would ONLY be $75.

Two years ago Trump pardoned a turkey "who refused to concede"

In the basement (adult males only): "The Melania Pornologram." (8 minutes).

R104, the comments to that post are hilarious:

Travis Akers @travisakers

Sidney Powell claims she has on "good authority" that Joe Biden will concede today and has already written his concession speech.

She also says she is releasing massive evidence of corruption today.

This even after the Trump campaign has denied she is part of their legal team.

Janet Messer @JZMesser Replying to @travisakers

Is there any chance she is mentally ill? I'm serious. Maybe bipolar or schizophrenic? If so, someone needs to get her help.

Karen Duffey @kduffey33 Replying to @travisakers

I hope she continues to spew nonsense and embarrass them further!

Groucho won by A LOT @GrouchoG Replying to @travisakers

I have it on good authority that I'm about to be appointed prime minister of Freedonia.

[Marx Brothers imaginary country reference]

that taylor girl @pdxwildflowers Replying to @travisakers Her cheese has slid completely off her cracker.

meanieMcB BLUE @LisaLuttrell14

I swear when I read your tweet, it somehow sounded like Vicki Lawrence's character "Momma" on the Carol Burnet show saying it! LOL!

sam @samiamsamh Replying to @travisakers

there must be someone in her life that can get her some help

Barbarian at the Gates @DarenCooper3 Replying to @travisakers

Sidney Powell is completely bonkers. And I mean choo choo for coco puffs.

Ruth Star of david#BLMFlag of United States @chavabell

I think you mean coup coup for Cocoa Puffs.

The Democratic Party is a tent big enough for Rashia Tlaib and Anthony Blinken.

Move on haters.

Agree, investigate what happened in South Carolina. Something went wrong here.

Lindsey Graham trying to change the Georgia vote is beyond unethical. Georgia isn't South Carolina. She needs to keep her petticoat out of Georgia. There are a lot of questions about how votes went down in SC. Graham was not that popular.

That Republican apparatus in SC runs everything in the state. An outside audit would find some interesting activity happened.

It appears Janet Yellen is going to be Treasury Secretary.

Talib clarifies that she is mad at Pompeo and is asserting that she wants better from Biden/Blinken.

[quote] Sec. Pompeo has moved to suppress BDS, a peaceful protest movement protected by the 1st Amendment. I hope that Mr. Blinken and President-Elect Biden’s Administration will change course from Trump’s State Department & not target or suppress support of Palestinian human rights.

Stupid cunt

r114 yes, hooray for Yellen

We are in business (real estate, machine shop etc.) Despite generally being "Republican" etc., we've always been surprised how good business is when a dem gets in. Clintons turned out to be great after all and Obama gave us some good excuses to trim back on some "things". The dems are actually such a bunch of whores that business does alright once you figure out the "grease fittings" (if you know what I mean).

Who is going to be Sec of Education?

I hope Yelen does NOT break the law and DOES release Trump's taxes to Congress.

We shall see.

I can tell you his likely Token Republican pick is going to be Meg Whitman as Secretary of Commerce. She'll run as tight a ship as she did at Quibi,

GA RECOUNT

OX 2 Detroit @FOX2News

A day after Georgia certifies its election results, President Trump's campaign is requesting a recount after the presidential race. This time, the recount would be done by high-speed scanners, not by hand.​

Tlaib keeps friendly relationships with people who support terrorists.

So yes her statement on Blinken who is the grandson of a holocaust survivor is extremely questionable.

[quote] I hope Yelen does NOT break the law and DOES release Trump's taxes to Congress.

Which is a great way to go about prosecution; rather than just the AG alone, by releasing everything to Congress that forces Cruz and Paul and anyone else running for reelection to have to defend him on the record.

Black Detroit voters sue Donald Trump over attempt to nullify their votes

Jonathan Oosting @jonathanoosting

Discrepancies in Detroit likely involve fewer than 500 votes in a state Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden won by more than 154,000.

That means an audit of Michigan results, as Republicans have urged, would only delay the process rather than change the outcome

[quote]A day after Georgia certifies its election results, President Trump's campaign is requesting a recount after the presidential race. This time, the recount would be done by high-speed scanners, not by hand.​

So much losing!

[quote]That means an audit of Michigan results, as Republicans have urged, would only delay the process rather than change the outcome

That's the point.

Biden said from the outset he wanted his cabinet to be half women, but I'm starting to wonder if he'll end up with more than half. He's naming Yellen at Treasury, likely a woman for Defense, former ND Senator Heidi Heidtkamp is basically a lock for Agriculture, and everyone's pushing NM Congresswoman Deb Haaland, who would be the first Native American in the cabinet, for Interior.

For the millionth time, an audit cannot occur in Michigan until the vote is certified. They can’t delay certification to do an audit because that is legally impossible. This state board is simply a formality. The GOP guy holding it up is a liar and is just a dancing monkey for Trump. He should not even be in that room based on his conflicts of interest like his wife being a plaintiff in one of trumps fake lawsuits. If it’s a deadlocked decision (which it’s looking like it will NOT be) then a court will order them to certify. These four members have no standing to contest the results or ask for an audit. By law, they must certify.

David Eggert @DavidEggert00

Derek Dobies, the mayor of Jackson, says he saw Republicans challengers at the TCF Center in Detroit training others to challenge all military ballots automatically.

[quote]an audit cannot occur in Michigan until the vote is certified

That does seem like a stupid rule. What if the audit did uncover something shady? Can the certification be revoked?

The selection of Amb. Linda Thomas-Greenfield demonstrates a welcome re-commitment to the patriots in our diplomatic service who have been demeaned and demoralized the last four years. Her presence at the UN will reflect a new and brighter day for US diplomacy.

Apparently, the latest craze on Parler is a pledge to write in Trump in the GA specials. God, I hope that comes to fruition.

Marc E. Elias@marceelias

[quote]BREAKING: Pennsylvania Supreme Court AFFIRMS our 5 victories in Philadelphia and REVERSES our one loss in Allegheny County.

[quote]Trump and his allies are now 1-35 in post-election litigation.

Another Republican senator (Shelley Moore Capito, WV) says time for Trump to concede

What does the “5 victories” refer to?

Five court cases they've filed (and lost) in PA.

The transition put this out. I just love how they keep plugging away, not paying Trump any attention at all.

[quote]Another Republican senator (Shelley Moore Capito, WV) says time for Trump to concede

Rob Portman said something similar.

I guess Carl Bernstein's tea-spilling about how many Senators hate him kind of opened the floodgates.

Did Emily Murphy show up today in congress?

Capito wasn't on the list - sorry if repeating: 21 Republican Sens–in convos w/ colleagues, staff members, lobbyists, W. House aides–have repeatedly expressed extreme contempt for Trump & his fitness to be POTUS. They are: Portman, Alexander, Sasse, Blunt, Collins, Murkowski, Cornyn, Thune, Romney, Braun, Young, Tim Scott, Rick Scott, Rubio, Grassley, Burr, Toomey, McSally, Moran, Roberts, Shelby.

No, probably because she didn't want to face Katie Porter.

GSA Head Will Go Down As One The 'Great Obstructors' Of Our Time: Columnist | Morning Joe | MSNBC

R134 Unless they're using textspeech aren't most of them illiterate?

R140 No, the fat bitch avoided it, by saying a deputy would brief them next week. Reps have demanded she brief them herself tomorrow, and respond by 5pm today

Apparently, the election in New York's 22 CD is such a shitshow, they may not actually be able to determine a winner. The Republican (who the incumbent Democrat defeated two years ago) was ahead by 106 votes heading into the recount, but now it seems that they can't determine which votes were included in the initial count and which weren't.

Can they order a special election?

The other Republican is voting to certify.

It's over. Trump needs to concede.

[quote] Kristen Holmes@KristenhCNN; GSA responds to Dems on briefing- Dep. Administrator will brief 4 requesting House Chairs & their Ranking Members, Monday 11/30, GSA spox tells CNN. GSA will also do in-person-only briefing for Senate Appropriations, Homeland Sec. & Gov Affairs Committees

Andrea Junker @Strandjunker; Friendly reminder that Republicans made Susan McDougal serve 18 months in prison for ignoring a subpoena to testify against the Clintons. So, what the hell are we waiting for? Subpoena @GSAEmilyMurphy immediately and have the House Sergeant of Arms take her into custody.

Michigan's electors go to Joe Biden on a certification vote of 3-1.

I would love to see that fat cunt go to jail.

R149 Seems it was actually 3-0, with one abstention

I wonder if more GOP senators will crawl out from their caves now to talk more openly about Trump losing. It’s beyond over at this point.

[quote][R149] Seems it was actually 3-0, with one abstention

Even the koo-koo bananas guy couldn't vote "No?"

Someone needs to do a Barry Goldwater and just find a way to appease Trump into stopping. I mean, it's not going to work, but they should at least try.

That pig from the GSA needs to be pulled out of her office by metro police and thrown in front of house democrats. And then afterwards she should be thrown in jail for conspiracy to commit murder. She has absolutely no excuse for not signing off on the transition. People will die because of that beluga whale.

[quote]Even the koo-koo bananas guy couldn't vote "No?"

Ah, I see. A "no" vote is only justified under the law if there's fraud. Absent any proof of fraud, it's a felony.

Guess he didn't love Trump that much.

Dang. Trump even lost the DeVos family

[quote]Michigan's electors go to Joe Biden on a certification vote of 3-1.

So much winning, eh, Donny?

PA will certify at 7. And we can all unclench.

Apparently, Trump hasn't tweeted for close to 24 hours?

How do we read into that?

R158 maybe. I’m seeing on Twitter some counties may not certify. I’m not sure what happens with that

I'm glad Katie Porter is on our side.

President Trump is worried that his campaign’s legal team, which is being led by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is comprised of “fools that are making him look bad,” @NBCNews reports.

Probably the most sentient realization he has ever had r162.

Emily Murphy relented

[quote] NEW: GSA has informed president-elect Joe Biden the administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, according to a letter from administrator Emily Murphy sent Monday afternoon and obtained by CNN.

Ha, Dem Reps didn't take her bullshit over the meeting next week, and the threat of a subpoena worked

Trump must be melting down. He’s totally silent. I expect even more GOP senators to speak up now

Wow, her letter was really cunty.

The behind the scenes pressure is working! Ding dong....

Maybe that cow watched Olbermann and got her udders scared.

Coup is over,

Ha, somebody put the fear of God in the fat bitch!

Yes I think the end of this nightmare is over. Trump’s tweet is the closest to a concession speech that we are gonna get

Walter Shaub calls Fatty's passive-aggressive screed "the most unprofessional thing I've ever seen an agency put on letterhead."

[quote]Yes I think the end of this nightmare is over. Trump’s tweet is the closest to a concession speech that we are gonna get

He just sounds so defeated, and I love it.

The stupid bitch does realise her other potential employers will read that letter and think "fuck no am I hiring someone like that", right?

Wait....is Trump admitting he told the fattie to sign the letter?

[quote]...fight, and I believe we will prevail! Nevertheless, in the best interest of our Country, [bold]I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols[/bold], and have told my team to do the same

So much for that independence, huh Emily?

That FAT, hideous pig bitch didn’t refer to Biden as president elect. What a disgusting pig. She needs to be run out of town by an angry mob with pitchforks on the 20th

"...Guess it's over, the chips are down. Nearly all our bridges tumbled down. Whatever chance we try, let's face it, why deny. It's over. It's all over. It's over..."

Bill Cassidy, one of the senators from LA said unambiguously that Biden won.

The dam has broken.

God I can't wait for his Post-Presidency legal hell.

That tweet was not written by him. But I am sure he approved it and demanded that they include the bit about still winning.

Now onto the corrupt pardons phase of the presidential transition

It was definitely not written by him. Too polished. Read her letter. It was written by the White House. She’s doing exactly what she’s been told to do in exchange for a presidential pardon via Twitter. He’s called off his nasty dogs now that she’s caved. To protect her from the worst of his rabid gang.

I mean, I'm normally not one to add to the DL body shaming, but honestly, shame away.

R182. for sure. But the writing is on the wall now. Chump is surely feeling the knives in his back from many party members who despise him. This is a day to rejoice!

Any pardon considered corrupt needs to absolutely be challenged in court. Those things can not be unchallenged or allowed to stand.

Maggie Haberman said this is trumps concession. The loss in PA made him realize Rudy was lying about their actual chances. His aides urged him to start the transition before thanksgiving.

It’s over everyone!!!!

Biden campaign statement

The turkey pardoning is tomorrow, so Trump is going to have to show his face in public, bwahahaha

Michigan's lesbian AG, Dana Nessel, says it perfectly.

I am hopeful from that last line from the Biden team statement about determining how fucked up Trump made the government.

What happened to all of out "IT's OVER! Trump is getting the Electoral College!" "The COUP succeeded!" Trolls?

They sure are silent today.

The best Thanksgiving ever (except for the poor turkey of course).

Apparently, things are not going over well in QAnon and Trumpland on Reddit.

Which honestly scares me a little.

It holds up.

R195, this phase is a bit unnerving, isn’t it.

I requested the next 4 days off months ago. And NOW I have a reason to truly celebrate!!! Forget about turkey and ham! It's steak and lobster time!

Surf and turf while Trump turfs out at last. But no surf for him. Indictments instead.

I wish the statement at R189 had read something like "The GSA has ascertained President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris as the apparent winners, albeit in an extremely fat and cunty way."

Who’s watching cunt Jenna Ellis on Ari Melber??

What a fucking lying asshole. She should be disbarred.

R201, it doesn’t even sound like lying - it is just full-on delusional public access TV ranting.

[quote]What a fucking lying asshole.

With a propensity for unladlylike language unbecoming a good Christian woman.

Bill Cassidy has acknowledged Biden as president elect. Seems like Michigan was the last hope. The dam has been broken. It’s over

[quote] What happened to all of out "IT's OVER! Trump is getting the Electoral College!" "The COUP succeeded!" Trolls? They sure are silent today.

I blocked most of them, which is probably why they're silent for me.

R204, I would love for this to be over, but I don’t think so. Thankfully, the Biden administration is moving along, but I think we can continue to expect chaos through January.

[quote]Apparently, things are not going over well in QAnon and Trumpland on Reddit. Which honestly scares me a little.

[quote] Emily Murphy relented.

I imagine someone described to her what prison food is like.

[quote] I don't want to seem pushy or ungrateful or anything, but Trump Republicans only have about 6 more weeks to roll out their comprehensive national healthcare plan.

[quote] I'm just saying, getting kinda tight.

Plus they have to release his tax returns AND have Infrastructure Week.

There is NO WAY Trump wrote these tweets

I agree r211. Wonder if he's in a drug-addled haze somewhere and Jared and Ivanka are just saying, it's time. enough of this shit.

Failing up and grifting.

[quote]Ascendent Fox rival Newsmax has attracted attention lately as being a possible takeover target for Trump allies, but Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy has denied he would convert his network to Trump TV. And it’s not out of the question that Trump and Fox could reach détente. According to two sources, Trump’s attacks on Fox News are causing alarm in the Murdoch family. Fox chairman Rupert Murdoch is considering a plan to offer Trump a $100 million package that would include HarperCollins publishing Trump’s post-presidential memoir and Fox News giving Trump a contributor deal or his own show, the sources say. On November 10, the Murdoch-owned New York Post reported Trump could land a $100 million book advance, but made no mention of the Murdochs. “Rupert is going to make a humongous offer,” one of the sources said. “The thinking is, Let’s buy Trump off so he shuts the fuck up.” Fox Corp. did not provide a comment. However, a source close to the publishing company denied it would make an offer for Trump’s memoir.

Will be interesting to see if Moscow Mitch issues a statement. Or is he dead already?

The Independent: Dianne Feinstein to step down as top Democrat on Senate Judiciary Committee following SCOTUS backlash

Senator Dianne Feinstein of California has announced she will not pursue the top position among Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“After serving as the lead Democrat on the Judiciary Committee for four years, I will not seek the chairmanship or ranking member position in the next Congress," the 87-year-old said on Monday.

Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois is next in line to take the top position for the Democratic Party in the Senate Judiciary Committee, followed by Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island.

Good, R216. Her behavior during the ACB confirmation hearings was abhorrent.

What happened, r217? (I didn't follow the proceedings.)

Cenk Uygur said he thinks that certain CEOS went to Trump and said, "Okay, you've had your fun, now get the fuck out of here."

Diane is probably a very nice lady. But she is 87 years old. She does not belong in the senate. She is not up for the fight. I suspect she will not finish her term and will resign in 2021.

I can't spoil this tweet, but you should click on it.

Rick Hasen, Mr. Practicing Attorney @rickhasen

First thing to note about the Trump campaign brief in the 3rd Circuit: it throws Trump's prior counsel under the bus for "incorrectly omitt[ing] numerous allegations and counts"

Key point: the Trump brief says it is not trying to disenfranchise 6.8 million PA voters, "just" throw out about 70,000 votes. BUT it also asks ultimately for court to void election, and let PA legislature choose electors. That IS disenfranchising 6.8 million PA voters.

The brief is procedurally weird, asking casually for a preliminary injunction or temporary restraining order. Trump campaign should be asking for an injunction pending appeal if it wants preliminary relief. But it doesn't. It wants remand to reconsider proposed amended complaint

May have to ask the @nytimes to correct my oped which says there's "nothing funny" about these efforts to steal the election and suppress the vote. Some of the Trump campaign's filings are making me laugh out loud.

This is so surreal...

Trump Campaign’s Actual Argument in Appeals Court: We’re Only Trying to Disenfranchise Up to 1.5 Million Voters, Not 6 Million Pennsylvanians

Maybe the GSA transition was within each and every one of us all along

Is PA still certifying tonight?

Me responding to the GSA letter:

The Independent: Ironically enough, it’s Rudy Giuliani who has ties to Venezuela

In fact, the disgraced former NYC mayor was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to lobby for Chavez in 2007 when the strongman was still alive.

As was widely reported at the time, Giuliani’s law firm, Bracewell and Giuliani, was hired by the Hugo Chavez government to lobby on behalf of Citgo Petroleum Corp., the US subsidiary of Venezuela’s oil company PDVSA (Petroleos de Venezuela) — and Chavez’s biggest cash cow.

And Giuliani’s work with the regime didn’t stop there. In recent years, he has been a go-to lawyer for corrupt Venezuelans linked to chavismo and looking to escape international money-laundering charges or sanctions.

Giuliani has been helping those who defrauded Venezuela out — all while being the lawyer of the US president who has presented himself as “tough” on chavismo and Castro-communism.

He represented Alejandro Betancourt López in a Justice Department investigation into alleged money laundering in Florida. Betancourt Lopez is know as one of Venezuela’s “boli-burgueses,” those who became part of the country’s new bourgeoisie thanks to the “socialist” Bolivarian revolution. He is well-known among Venezuelans as one of the biggest beneficieries of chavista corruption. .... Giuliani already had a relationship with Betancourt, having stayed at his estate in Madrid as Giuliani worked to get dirt on Ukrainian-linked corruption and Joe Biden, per Trump’s request.

Haven't we all figured out that everything they accuse Democrats of doing, the Republicans are actually doing it.

R219 that’s exactly what happened. Not to Trump but business leaders told the GOP they would not be getting any money for the GA runoffs if the transition to Biden did not begin

[quote]President Trump is worried that his campaign’s legal team, which is being led by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is comprised of “fools that are making him look bad,” @NBCNews reports.

Oh, my sides!

Miss Lindsey has been completely and utterly humiliated. She risked her entire career to try to rig this for Trump only to have the argument switch to “Hugo Chavez created this voting scam and the CIA is in on it”. I hope Biden puts her on the “ignore” list because you know January 20th at 12:01pm Miss Lindsey will be calling her “old friend” Biden to suck up to him

La Lady Lindz has humiliated herself throughout. Begging for money, sucking the the fat orange ass and then getting caught being an interloper trying to influence others to cheat. Disgusting cow she showed herself to be. Even through we all already knew.

[quote]Miss Lindsey has been completely and utterly humiliated.

Richly deserved. Miss Lindsey can't be terribly bright to have bet everything on that pathetic old orange nag coming out a winner.

[quote]The thinking is, Let’s buy Trump off so he shuts the fuck up.

Because Trump is so well known for his loyalty and ability to keep his word.

True, r235, and also greedy as he is there is one thing he needs more than money: attention.

Diane Feinstein stepping down as the lead Democrat on the Senate Justice Committee.

Illinois senior Sen. Dick Durbin said Monday he’ll seek the position of top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee — a spot that could become the chairmanship following two Georgia contests early next year that will decide party control of the chamber.

Christina Bobb chairs the Weekly Briefing on OAN. She’s also a lawyer by trade. And in recent days, she’s been spotted by several Trump officials at their office in the conference room with the rest of the president’s team. Her presence has caused a bit of confusion among actual campaign staff, who wondered if she was there to embed with the Trump legal “strike force” as a reporter.

But according to multiple knowledgeable sources, Bobb has actually been assisting the president’s long, long, long-shot legal effort—effectively taking on a secondary role as a pro-Trump lawyer even as she continues her job as a pro-Trump TV host.

Bobb’s cozy relationship with the president’s legal team may be the most brazen example of the cozy relationship Trump and his campaign have maintained with members of conservative media. But it’s hardly the first.

Glenn Kirschner:

Here's Why the Rule of Law Requires Trump Be Prosecuted Upon Leaving Office

[quote] Emily Murphy relented.

[quote]I imagine someone described to her what prison food is like.

I get the impression she'd care more about the quantity of food than the quality.

[quote]They are: Portman, Alexander, Sasse, Blunt, Collins, Murkowski, Cornyn, Thune, Romney, Braun, Young, Tim Scott, Rick Scott, Rubio, Grassley, Burr, Toomey, McSally, Moran, Roberts, Shelby.

So how many of them would actually vote for removal now?

The 2020 election answered the question as to whether the political realignment of the suburbs was situational or permanent. Many educated, well-off suburbanites did not like Trump. But many of them voted Republican downballot. They haven’t rejected the GOP. They rejected Trump.

The 2020 election answered the question as to whether the political realignment of the suburbs was situational or permanent. Many educated, well-off suburbanites did not like Trump. But many of them voted Republican downballot. They haven’t rejected the GOP. They rejected Trump.

this

try that again....

sorry, 3rd time's a charm

The official transition website, BuildBackBetter now has a .gov address. It's real now.

According to Maggie Haberman, it seems like Mark Meadows is the one who is making sure the transition happens. He had a phone call with Trump this morning and told him that he needed to start moving on

[quote]Apparently, Trump hasn't tweeted for close to 24 hours? How do we read into that?

You know what? You don't.

You expend no more mental or emotional energy on this orange clown.

Because it's done. It's over, and he won't hurt you anymore.

We should have a Concession Ball.

[quote]The turkey pardoning is tomorrow, so Trump is going to have to show his face in public, bwahahaha

Sources say the turkey is refusing to pardon him.

Politico:

Biden’s pick for Defense Secretary is still in flux. Biden has wavered on Michèle Flournoy, with whom he is not personally close and has deep ties to the defense industry. Jeh Johnson is now also a leading contender for the job.

[quote]I am hopeful from that last line from the Biden team statement about determining how fucked up Trump made the government.

Yes, read that last line at the r189 link again.

There are multiple reasons it's there.

Morning Consult Poll:

Fox News’ Popularity Slips Among Republicans in Wake of Election

The network’s average favorability rating among Republicans dropped from 67% to 54%

There was absolutely no cause for Rep. Tlaib to comment whatsoever other than to express congratulations. There is nothing to be gained by a Democratic politician by pre-emptively and implicitly criticizing the choices and actions of a Democratic President-Elect.

IOW, hold your anti-Semitic horses (and under the ridiculous pretext of having one's freedom of speech curtailed....by a Democrat!) until they're justified in being let loose.

And please; she's a Muslim. Don't give me that "She's against Zionists, not all Jewish people" falsehood.

Susan rice would never, ever be confirmed by a GOP senate. She is a non starter

R256 She knew exactly what she was doing. Including her follow-up tweet. It was deliberate.

That Murphy cow, who should be told that Trump hates women who look like her, added that condescending penultimate statement TO THE PRESIDENT-ELECT that "I remind you" that there are financial reporting requirements

....as though the Biden Team are the financial cheats there.

Bill Scher:

Biden is the 1st Democratic President since '63 to be separated from the previous Dem by 4 years or less.

And he's the first elected Dem since the Civil War who didn't run as an outsider

Two factors which give him access to a highly experienced talent pool.

The extension of deplorableism is to not have any news at all. Just talking heads that go along with whatever the Republican guests say. I have been watching clips from OANN and NewsMax for entertainment. It’s really flat out parody although they don’t realize it. They literally have still been putting up maps showing that Trump is ahead. We are entering a really unknown period. Thank God for that young Michigan attorney.

William LeGate:

There is a growing movement on Parler of Georgia Trump supporters vowing to write his name in for the Senate run-offs, in protest of the "rigged" vote

R253, "Deep ties to the defense industry" means "war equals profits." Shades of the Bechtel and Halliburton days.

How wonderful is it to see qualified names being tapped to run government again. Finally, sane Americans will be able to get a good night's sleep again.

[quote] And please; she's a Muslim. Don't give me that "She's against Zionists, not all Jewish people" falsehood.

Gaslighting of the lowest order from a confirmed bigot. It’s like saying, “that dirty nigger, he hates all white people.”

Jordan Weissmann (Slate):

My quick take to the coup discourse: We just watched the president spend ~3 weeks trying to overturn an election, with barely a peep from his own party. Unless you think the GOP would have been more vocal if Trump had a real chance of succeeding, it bodes poorly for our future.

Trump unfortunately is laying the groundwork for tyranny. He doesn’t give a shit about anything but himself. I am hoping he croaks because they won’t know what to do. That kind of narcissistic popular reality show freak is hopefully once in a lifetime.

The coup isn’t over yet. We are still waiting on Sidney Powell’s court filings.

Anthony Scaramucci:

Never forget how dangerous and abnormal this all was.

She’s only going to drop a turd.

What is Cuomo's problem. He stresses me out like he just wants to fuck everything.

R266 Are you really calling someone else a bigot when you're unnecessarily using the n word?

R266, STFU. I'm not a bigot, never mind a "confirmed" one. And your ridiculous attempt at an analogy implies that the word "Muslim" is the equivalent of the n-word. Your words, not mine.

Moreover, I have never in my 71 years even once uttered that word, doubt it if you want. I have voted for the Rev. Jesse Jackson, Barack Obama, and, of course, Kamala Harris.

But I will never countenance anti-Semitism. Indeed, I consider myself a Zionist, one who has read extensively on the 20th C. history of the Holocaust, the Balfour Agreement, Trans-Jordan, Israel, Palestine, the expulsion from Trans-Jordan of Palestinians ( the origin of "Black September"), the Arab-Israeli Wars, and Palestinian (and sympathizing foreign groups, such as Baader-Meinhof and the Red Army) terror attacks on civilians ( school's, planes, trains, and automobiles).

To a devout Muslim, Jews are as described in the Surahs: apes and pigs.

It is amazing how fast she made her "assessment" after Biden was awarded over 270 CERTIFIED Electoral Votes.

Today Biden went from candidate, through assessed winner to President Elect.

Next step December 14th and the Electoral college formal vote.

January 6th, Congressional count and certification.

Trump officially lost today, 11.23.2020.

Please don't infest this thread with that shit, r274. Getting into Zionism pissing matches is the fastest way to a FF.

I've been predicting since Nov 4 that Trump would tear the GOP apart. I never imagined that it would happen just a few weeks after the election.

R270

Says the money-grubbing famewhore who would still be working for Trump if he hadn't been fired.

It's appalling that he and Omarosa are being legitimized and given a public voice after they magically decided to 'see the light' after being fired from that grotesque administration.

Michigan certified that Biden won!

Muslim is not a race R266, Islam is a religious ideology and therefore it's absolutely fine criticizing it.

[quote]such as Baader-Meinhof

We were just talking about this!

Is this meeting of Netanyahu, MBS and Pompeo a coincidence on the day the transition starts? Wouldn’t it be something if Trump flees to Saudi Arabia? I don’t think Israel would take him.

[quote]Miss Lindsey has been completely and utterly humiliated.

If the last four years have proved anything, it's that Republican lawmakers are incapable of feeling humiliation or shame.

Laura Ingraham having to let her viewers down gently and acknowledge that Biden is going to be President...*chef's kiss*.

Trump is also retweeting Randy Quaid this morning.

Randy Quaid appears to have, if such a thing is possible, lost even more of his mind.

He seems to be auditioning for Sidney Powell’s role.

I have a hunch that Newsmax has a Twitter movement to lure the Fox weary deplorables to their channel..or website, whatever...a lot of outrageous twitter claims are followed by “read it on Newsmax, real news!”

I hope they eat each other.

Ahh yes. It will soon be filed. The truth will be exposed in the near future. We are going to blow the lid off this next week.

And they still fall for it.

[quote]There is a growing movement on Parler of Georgia Trump supporters vowing to write his name in for the Senate run-offs, in protest of the "rigged" vote

That could be super helpful. It should be encouraged.

R288, that sounds like Russian trolls. Parler is a perfect site for them, they can say anything and have a clueless audience that will agree with anything they say, no matter how ridiculous. Putin just wants to stir up shit. He’s probably tired of Trump by now anyway.

The main thing Trump is accomplishing with all these recounts and lawsuits is to make it appear he’s losing the same state elections over and over, and constantly reminding people of his losses.

[quote]I hope they eat each other.

Pics please.

There is no write in line on the run off ballots in GA, so that effort by Roger Stone is dumb as hell. You have to make a choice

Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them to write "Trump" somewhere else on the ballot and insist that that counts.

Hopefully they will be discouraged from showing up. You gotta figure his hardcore supporters are exhausted and disappointed and very likely to stay home.

I can help thin their ranks!

The transition is not being set up to help Biden. Quite the opposite actually.

A political hack who has been at the DOD for two weeks is heading the transition there. What a sham

Samantha Bee essential fingers herself while talking to Tish James about what's going to happen in January.

The funny thing is, I don't think she's playing it up for the camera. I think she's legitimately relieved.

[quote]The transition is not being set up to help Biden. Quite the opposite actually.

They seem to have been prepped for every roadblock, including setting aside campaign funds to help with their part of the transition on the (correct) assumption that Trump would play games. I'm sure that they have a plan.

"Our big lawsuit, which spells out in great detail all of the ballot fraud and more, will soon be filled."

Filled with what?

KFC.

Adam Klasfeld@KlasfeldReports

[quote]The federal lawsuit in Washington, D.C. against the Trump campaign over its efforts to overturn the results of a free and fair election just was assigned to... U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, the jurist presiding over the Michael Flynn case

A little late there, should've been done when Trumpists started boycotting House invitations and subpoenas. This is on Nancy.

Ted Lieu @tedlieu

Why did @GSAEmily ignore the Democratic request for a briefing today? BECAUSE CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENAS ARE MEANINGLESS. It takes **years** to litigate a subpoena. We can fix this by changing the House Rules to allow Inherent Contempt power to fine witnesses who ignore Congress.

PA has officially certified.

It's over. We did it.

r302, unless there is a Democratically appointed AD who REISSUES those subpoenas and sends people to jail.

That big fat sow Emily Murphy must be held accountable for her obstruction of the Democratic process and the reckless endangerment she put 330 million Americans in by her blocking a covid vaccine program by almost 3 weeks. How many deaths will that delay result in?

Biden-Harris becomes first presidential ticket in history to surpass 80 million votes

Biden-Harris becomes first presidential ticket in history to surpass 80 million votes

I wonder what is going on in Trump’s pea sized brain right now.

This election wasn’t even close

The Dow topping 30,000 for the first time today, in the wake of MI and PA's certification of the Biden win, must be driving Trump crazy ... er, crazier.

Whether or not Trump is doing all of this just out of sheer pettiness & revenge, what someone needs to get through his previously orange skull is that THIS will define his legacy. Same goes for those in his inner circle. For someone who is so hung up on image and optics, this whole thing just seems odd.

He walked into the briefing room, made a weird statement about vaccines and the stock market, and then walked out.

Even for him, this is bizarre.

Nevada has certified.

The Boston Globe put out an editorial saying that no one really wants to see him dragged out of the White House.

Not only do I want that, I want Gritty and Stacey Abrams to be the ones doing the dragging.

[quote]I wonder what is going on in Trump’s pea sized brain right now.

"Mmmmm, doughnuts."

Before the dragging, r316, I want the preliminary slap line.

[quote]The Boston Globe put out an editorial saying that no one really wants to see him dragged out of the White House.

I not only want to see it, I would pay a lot of money to stream it live.

B- b- but his crowds were so big. The enthusiasm was just... [*sobs*]

These people are serious. I am grateful.

^^ What fun!!! ^^

[quote]Nevada has certified.

And Trump is certifiable.

The universe, at last, is unfolding as it should.

Biden is holding a press conference - formally announcing his cabinet picks. Doing pretty good.

How can you say that r324? He hasn't insulted anybody yet!

Biden’s SOS pick has a bit of a daddy thing going on...I’m into it

It is so refreshing to hear these people speak. We will actually have a functioning government again

Man, did the story about his stepfather surviving the Holocaust get me.

IS PETE THERE??????

R314 Bizarre indeed. He looked and sounded defeated. It almost seemed like he went out to concede, but then backed out. Either that or he was trolling, which I wouldn't put past them at this point.

R319 I'll settle for nothing less than the full Mussolini treatment.

[quote]He looked and sounded defeated.

There's actually a very good reason for this. But shouldn't he be feeling upbeat, with all that irrefutable evidence he's about to release proving that the election was rigged?

You aint see nothin' yet

R321 They sure are dumb. Unless Dump were to move to Georgia before the election, he wouldn't meet the residency requirement specified in the U.S. Constitution.

Well, I guess that would be one way to get him out of the White House now.

Glenn Kirschner:

Michigan Certifies Biden, Barr Goes Underground & McConnell Picks Judges Over Suffering Americans

I wonder if he's starting to pack his stuff, just to "put it into storage." Like how he went down into the bunker just to "take a look" around.

Burn her!

[quote]When J.J. Abrams commented about adding gay characters to “Star Wars,” Ellis responded, “Why not also a Christian? Or a Muslim? Or a pedophile? Or every other representation of any subculture, belief and lifestyle?"

Well, at least she admits that christianity is a subculture.

[quote] He looked and sounded defeated

But he IS, Blanche! He IS!

Trump’s one minute speech reminded me when I used to have sex with him many years ago. I still have nightmares.

Carl Bernstein names 21 Republican senators who privately expressed contempt for Trump

They were: Rob Portman (Ohio), Lamar Alexander (Tennessee), Ben Sasse (Nebraska), Roy Blunt (Missouri), Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), John Cornyn (Texas), John Thune (South Dakota), Mitt Romney (Utah), Mike Braun and Todd Young (Indiana), Tim Scott (South Carolina), Rick Scott and Marco Rubio (Florida), Chuck Grassley (Iowa), Richard Burr (North Carolina), Pat Toomey (Pennsylvania), Martha McSally (Arizona), Jerry Moran and Pat Roberts (Kansas) and Richard Shelby (Alabama).

[quote] They were: Rob Portman (Ohio), Lamar Alexander (Tennessee), Ben Sasse (Nebraska), Roy Blunt (Missouri), Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), John Cornyn (Texas), John Thune (South Dakota), Mitt Romney (Utah), Mike Braun and Todd Young (Indiana), Tim Scott (South Carolina), Rick Scott and Marco Rubio (Florida), Chuck Grassley (Iowa), Richard Burr (North Carolina), Pat Toomey (Pennsylvania), Martha McSally (Arizona), Jerry Moran and Pat Roberts (Kansas) and Richard Shelby (Alabama).

Two observations:

McSally has been one of 45's most loyal ass-kissers...and then he oh so publicly dissed her during the AZ rally in the last day before the election.

Tim Scott had a highly publicized, prime speaking slot during the GOP convention. I wonder if he had a hard time cashing the check since it didn't have his name on it and was only made out to "Token".

Julian Zelizer (Historian at Princeton University):

Trump's attempt to overturn the election failed. But things to remember: POTUS tried to overturn the election while most Republicans supported him. It's time to turn to the transition, but not to turn the page. This was unprecedented and dangerous. It was also a partisan thing.

Raphael Warnock delivers a clean, effective political ad.

This may be one of my favorite ads ever!

Wall Street Journal:

President Trump won only 9 of the 100 largest US counties, down from 13 in 2016. That’s the latest sign of how white-collar, metropolitan America is separating from the less-thriving places beyond the big metros.

Marc E. Elias:

BREAKING: Nevada Court REJECTS Republican challenge to the use of mail ballot processing machine and request for new election.

Trump and his allies are now 1-36 in post election litigation.

That is BRILLIANT, r344.

We can not underestimate the revelation from Bernstein. 21 names is significant ! Especially for this highly secretive party which sticks close to the vest publicly. He is hated by the majority in power (dems+repubs). 1+1=2. Time to go

Aaron Rupar:

Making a big deal out of the stock market hitting a record high the day after you concede your reelection contest is a remarkable self-own

Where does the money come from, for all these lawyers filing court challenges to the elections in each state?

Check your pockets r350.

[quote]Where does the money come from

The campaign has been paying for those.

They announced that Biden will be getting the PDBs starting tomorrow.

And I bet he'll not only read them, they won't have to make them primarily pictures.

R352. Not entirely true. Some costs for recounts in close elections are paid by the tax payers (you and me)

Chump right now:

"Oh, ain't it funny how the tables turn. When things aren't goin' your way? But when love runs out and the pain walks in. And settles for a stay, ooh.

(If you think you're lonely now). Lord, help me, I feel like I wanna testify. (Wait until tonight....,"

WSJ: President Trump has publicly vowed to keep up the fight to overturn the election. Privately, advisers say, the president has suggested he knows...”

@jonathanchait The Trump line shifts from "the election was stolen" to "my fans who believe the election was stolen need reassurance"

Oops! Sorry! I meant Melania! SHE is singing these words right now!

Yes, R354. Trump’s challenges to the election are burning up millions of dollars that mostly come from taxpayers. The campaign is not paying for statewide recounts; we are. We are also paying for the court system that has to deal with Trump’s absurd lawsuits.

The only reason why Republicans fell in line behind Trump is because that's what they always do. Absolute party unity is at the heart of the Republican political machine's success. He's not some kind of wizard of political theater. He's a massive fuckup.

The Republicans stood by and enabled this fucking Madman to commit treason and it's unforgivable.

They have to be taught a lesson and I can't think of a better way than for them to lose the two seats in Georgia in January so McTurtle loses all his power. Power has completely corrupted the GOP and they need to be squashed in the runoff.

Trump is like cigarettes. Addicts can’t stop or make excuses even though smoking causes cancer. Once he’s out, the media need to 100% ignore him.

This is interesting.

NYT:

.@nytimes calculates that since Nov. 3, Trump has posted about 400 tweets in which he tried to undermine the integrity of the election results.

This probably won't get to anyone other than me, but I noticed that the little info box on the side of the Wikipedia article for Vice President of the United States has been updated. Where it lists the style of address, it now reads "Mr. or Madam Vice President." And I know it didn't used to.

I bet Trump thinks he can just delete all his tweets on January 20th and post "Moved to Parler" and the evidence will magically disappear. Surprise, asshole. Offical presidential record.

Madam seems so old-fashioned. It just seems archaic. The male equivalent to Madam is Sir, not Mister. Why not Ms. Vice President, which would be the actual equivalent?

Or we could really trigger people and have her demand to be addressed as "Mx VP."

How about no gender based titles?

Vice President Harris

Blast from the past election: Fox News reaches settlement with parents of slain DNC staffer Seth Rich.

[quote]Fox News on Tuesday settled a lawsuit over its promotion of unfounded conspiracy theories about the 2016 murder of Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich. As of September, Fox stars like Hannity and Fox Business host Lou Dobbs were scheduled to be deposed in the case, but the settlement means those depositions won’t be made public. The terms of Fox’s settlement with Rich’s parents—including any potential payment from Fox—weren’t publicly disclosed.

Bummer there won't be depositions of Hannity and Lou Dobbs.

R360. YES! These GA elections are crucial!

DL:Asking/begging you to please donate something, even 5€/$ to this cause.. (PS: I know that all you MF's here have 5€/$ to spare LOL. So let's make this dream a reality ! You want REAL change? Then let's make this happen!!!

R370 - Dear God, truer words were never spoken. We need the Senate to really make things happen!

Go Stacy Abrams! Go Georgia!

Sent $25 to Fair Fight last week. It will be split between the two candidates and a portion to Fair Fight.

You can also donate directly to each candidate through their websites.

Will mail-in voting be used in the runoffs? Do they have time to get ballots out to everyone again? If they only use in-person, they'll cheat. I mean, they'll cheat anyway but they'll be more likely to succeed.

[quote]Will mail-in voting be used in the runoffs?

Yes, and records have been set with ballot requests.

R368, “Madam Vice President” or “Mr President” is sort of a generic address. Most of the time it’s President Biden and Vice President Harris.

There’s been several female Secretaries of State, and they’re usually generically called Madam Secretary, or specifically Secretary Albright, for example.

Back when they were figuring this out, they talked about calling George Washington “your Excellency” and they called the First Lady, “Lady Washington,” at first.

Washington is probably rolling over in his grave to know Melania is called “FLOTITS.”

A House Democratic lawmaker is requesting a federal investigation into Sen. David Perdue’s (R-GA) purchase and sale of stock in a U.S. Navy contractor while he was chairman of a Senate subcommittee with jurisdiction over Navy spending, first reported by The Daily Beast last week.

On Tuesday, Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL), the chairman of the House Oversight Committee’s subpanel on economic policy, sent a letter to Jay Clayton, chairman of the federal Securities and Exchange Commission, requesting he probe Perdue’s investment in BWX Technologies for any evidence of wrongdoing.

[quote]requesting he probe Perdue

Pics please.

It appears that Parler's entire database, including DMs, got hacked.

I think we may be about to learn some stuff.

[quote]I think we may be about to learn some stuff.

I guess John Tesh picked the wrong time to switch from Twitter to Parler.

[quote] ... a federal investigation into Sen. David Perdue’s (R-GA) purchase and sale of stock in a U.S. Navy contractor

I read that and thought ....

The Vice President of the United States just shared her recipe for stuffing on Twitter. I cannot in my wildest dreams imagine Pence or Mother doing something so...normal and human.

Boy, did we get a good one.

Haha if you scroll down in that tweet, someone posted some rando bs and then someone posted the DL classic "sure Jan" gif. Which one of you bitches did that??

r381 Now, now ... didn't you hear about Mother Pence's "Christmas Craft"?

Sidney Powell just announced that tomorrow is the day she blows up Georgia with her big lawsuit aka the kraken. Can’t wait!

Pardons Time!

Trump tells confidants he plans to pardon Michael Flynn

R385 shocking

[quote]Sidney Powell just announced that tomorrow is the day she blows up Georgia with her big lawsuit aka the kraken. Can’t wait!

God, she's Orly Taitz: TNG.

I mean, at least Taitz could fill your cavities.

Do pardons count in military prosecution? It's kind of a separate justice system. Treason.

When will he pardon Ghislane, his family and himself? He will go in and go out as a criminal.

I've been reading a few of the litigation cases with the election. The case below doesn't pass the smell test because Jimmie Wilson (Democratic Party) was a former state legislator but his 40 year old misdemeanor wasn't a problem until he won election to the Arkansas House of Representatives for District 12. He received a presidential pardon by Bill Clinton in 2001. What stands out is the judges opinion regarding the pardon.

Andrew Fleischman@ASFleischman

[quote]The Supreme Court of Arkansas ruled today that, although the winning Democratic candidate had been pardoned for the 40-year-old misdemeanor offense of selling mortgaged crops, he was still ineligible to hold office. His opponent wins by default.

[bold]Opinion[/bold]

[quote][w]hile a pardon has generally been regarded as blotting out the existence of guilt, so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offense, it does not so operate for all purposes, and, as the very essence of a pardon is forgiveness or remission of penalty, a pardon implies guilt; it does not obliterate the fact of commission of the crime and the conviction thereof; it does not wash out the moral stain; as has been tersely said it involves forgiveness and not forgetfulness.

[quote]Sidney Powell just announced that tomorrow is the day she blows up Georgia with her big lawsuit aka the kraken. Can’t wait!

Does she know she's not working for Trump anymore?

The Inside Story of Michigan’s Fake Voter Fraud Scandal

11/24/2020

How a state that was never in doubt became a ‘national embarrassment’ and a symbol of the Republican Party’s fealty to Donald Trump.

The Hill:

Republican John James concedes in Michigan Senate race

Bad, Miss Thang. Bad, bad, Miss Thang.

Perez is leaving in February.

Will there be any elbow grease from him to try and win those two Georgia Senate races?

[quote]Bad, Miss Thang. Bad, bad, Miss Thang.

Lindsey Graham is the embodiment of "nasty-closeted-queen-resting-bitch-face".

I'd just laugh at him, but for some reason this little turd is allowed to have power.

[quote]Will there be any elbow grease from him to try and win those two Georgia Senate races?

The next DNC Chair is already on the scene.

She's got this.

I have to give Trump one thing: He may have been the only person in this entire country who knew from the beginning that Biden was going to win. He got himself impeached trying to prevent having to run against him.

[quote]I have to give Trump one thing

Could it please be a debilitating, ultimately fatal disease r398?

AMEN R398. Funny that his ignorant followers wailing and screaming that Joe is too old and too feeble to have soundly beaten their King(!!) seem to forget this. Hillary was a gift to Trump in 2016 - of course the rigged votes in his favor were more of gift in the end. GOP miscalculated their own rigging/cheating this time around and....curtains for Trumpy Bear.

Apparently, people are agitating that Julian Assange and Edward Snowden get added to Pardon-palooza. Probably as one last favor to Putin.

Despite expectations of Democratic gains, Republicans were dominant in North Carolina on election night.

@decunningham2

explains how Republicans held the federal races while sweeping the judicial races and expanding their state house majority. #ncpol

After a disappointing 2016 performance, North Carolina Democrats seemed poised to win the Tar Heel State for the first time since 2008. Optimism again turned to disappointment, however, as the votes came in throughout the night. An early Biden lead whittled away and then was completely overtaken after the GOP bastions of Union County and Johnston County reported. By the night’s end, Trump held a clear lead.

Despite the relatively limited change in vote share, a lot of change happened under the surface. Only three counties changed hands from 2016. Biden performed better than Clinton in much of the state. He gained quite a bit in the mountains, especially in the area surrounding Asheville. Biden also gained in almost every county in the Charlotte metro area (especially Cabarrus County, which saw a double-digit swing) and surpassed 60% of the vote in Wake County. He even won New Hanover County, which is a traditional sign of a Republican loss.

However, Biden’s gains were stunted by declines in traditional Democratic bastions. Trump made major gains in southeastern North Carolina – especially Robeson County. Trump’s strong nationwide performance with rural minorities also made an appearance here. He flipped Scotland County red for the first time since 1984 and made substantial inroads in the majority-black counties of the northeast. Like I mentioned in a previous article, voting patterns in NC aren’t quite as racially polarized as in some other states. This election proved this pattern as Trump gained with rural white and black voters.

Like in the Presidential race, Democrats were marginally favored to win the Senate race. Thom Tillis had struggled in polling all year and had low favorability ratings. However, the turning point of this race proved to be the October surprise: that Cal Cunningham had engaged in an extramarital affair with the wife of a disabled combat veteran. While polls never quite shifted to favor Tillis, they did narrow, and Cunningham’s favorables took a major hit. By the closing week, the race looked like a real dead heat.

Both candidates ran behind their respective presidential candidates. However, Tillis’s margin of victory was higher than Trump’s. As shown in this map from J. Miles Coleman of Sabato’s Crystal Ball, Tillis outperformed Trump in almost every urban county. His margins were most pronounced in the Charlotte area as well as in urban Raleigh. He also bested Trump in the Elizabeth City area, home to the largest Coast Guard base in the country. He even managed to win Pasquotank County, which Trump failed to do. For his part, Cunningham, a native of Lexington, was able to make solid inroads into rural counties in western North Carolina like Wilkes, Yadkin, and Davidson. However, this wasn’t enough to overcome his poor urban showings. While both candidates ran behind the top of the ticket, Tillis defeated Cunningham by a larger margin than Trump defeated Biden by

In addition to the two new safe House seats (NC02 and NC06), Democrats were optimistic they could claim the new NC08, as well as possibly NC09 and NC11. However, they fell short in all of them, and incumbent G.K. Butterfield only won the redrawn NC01 by around eight percentage points. This was a closer margin than NC09 and NC11 and leaves Democrats worried about their long-term odds in the rural seat.

In NC11, some Democrats expected a close race. However, the Republican, Madison Cawthorn, managed to win it by 12.6% – a larger margin than Trump did. In NC09, Republican Dan Bishop won by an 11-point margin, also higher than Trump. in NC08, Democrat Patricia Timmons-Goodson narrowly outran Biden but still lost by over six points.

All ten Council of State offices were up in 2020, leaving major opportunities for both sides. Following a slew of close calls on both sides in 2016 and four retirements, the entire Council seemed due for a shakeup. However, ultimately the offices will have the exact same partisan balance as before: a 6-4 Republican majority.

As expected, Governor Roy Cooper defeated Republican Dan Forest in his bid for a second-term. However, the margin was far smaller than expected. If he hadn’t won an astonishing 72% of the over 1 million absentee-by-mail votes, this might have turned out differently. The only other Democratic winners were Attorney General Josh Stein, Auditor Beth Wood, and Secretary of State Elaine Marshall.

Republicans also held all of their seats. In the Agriculture Commissioner race, Republican Steve Troxler easily defeated progressive Democrat Jenna Wadwsorth by around 8% – the largest statewide margin this cycle. Dale Folwell also easily dispatched Democrat Ronnie Chatterji in the Treasurer race. In a rematch for the Commissioner of Insurance race, Republican Mike Causey defeated NC Democratic Party chairman Wayne Goodwin. Mark Robinson handily won the closely-watched Lt. Governor race and will become North Carolina’s first African-American statewide officeholder.

In the Superintendent of Public Education race, Republican Catherine Truitt defeated Democrat Jen Mangrum. Finally, Republicans held the Commissioner of Labor’s office as Josh Dobson beat Jessica Holmes. These losses were particularly painful for Democrats, who sought more influence over labor laws and education. Despite the lack of any flipping offices, these races did show one thing: that North Carolina voters are increasingly polarized. No candidates won by double-digits, and only Troxler and Folwell won by more than 5%.

Three Supreme Court races and five Court of Appeals races were up in North Carolina this cycle. Prior to the election, Democrats held a 6-1 advantage in the Supreme Court and an 8-7 advantage on the Court of Appeals. However, pending final results in the Supreme Court Chief Justice race, Republicans appear poised for a clean sweep of all eight races.

At the time of writing, Paul Newby has a lead of over 400 votes in the Chief Justice race over incumbent Cheri Beasley, which would cut the Democratic advantage to 4-3. A recount is currently underway. Republicans also surpassed 51% in every Court of Appeals race. This will leave Republicans with a majority of at least 10-4; previously, Democrats held a 8-7 majority.

General Assembly

Most disappointing of all for Democrats were the General Assembly races. The races were held under new lines that reduced the Republican gerrymander and gave Democrats an advantage in urban areas. Democrats hoped to claim one or both chambers. Instead, they lost ground.

In the House, Republicans flipped six districts. In addition to an expected flip in Republican-trending HD66, they gained two Republican-leaning seats in western North Carolina (HD93 and HD119). On top of this, they made three flips in Democratic-trending urban areas. HD98 (north Mecklenburg) and HD37 (southern Wake) had seemingly strong incumbents, but both narrowly flipped. And in Democratic-leaning HD43 (Cumberland County), Republican Diane Wheatly upset Democrat Kimberly Hardy, a progressive who had herself unseated conservative Democrat Elmer Floyd in a primary.

Democrats did gain two House districts. Ricky Hurtado beat incumbent Stephen Ross in HD63 (Alamance) while Brian Farkas beat incumbent Perrin Jones in HD09 (Pitt). Both seats had become more Democratic in redistricting. They also gained two Senate districts based in urban Wake (SD39) and Mecklenburg (SD18) counties but lost a seat in urban New Hanover (SD9).

The end result will be a 69-51 majority for Republicans (+4) in the House and a 28-22 majority in the Senate (-1). With their victory in the Lt. Governor race, Republicans also maintain a crucial tiebreaker in the event of a tied Senate. By having a majority in both houses, Republicans maintain a check on Cooper’s power as well as full authority in redistricting.

Texas has certified its 2020 election results:

Trump 5,890,347 (52.1%) Biden 5,259,126 (46.5%)

That's a 3.4 point margin swing against Trump vs. 2016 and a 26.2% increase in votes cast.

MAGA Haberman is reporting that trump is attending the PA GOP “hearing” with Rudy today. It’s not taking place in a court of law or a state house of course, but at the Wyndham hotel in Gettysburg. PA certified it’s results yesterday so there is nothing they can do about it

Despite Trump’s defeat, Democrats really have some intense soul-searching to do. Election 2020 indicates that Americans slant Republican. They affirmed rightwing court packing, restrictions on abortion, tax cuts for the rich, denial of science, and heartless immigration policy down ballot in much of the nation. Many voters who fired Trump also voted Republican down ballot. Much of America wants Trump policies without the savageness of Trump himself.

Trump is attending a hearing in Gettysburg with rudy giuliani

It will be COMEDY GOLD

It's at the Wyndham Hotel in Gettysburg

I was never a fan of Wyndham hotels. Is this the same company that sells timeshares in Vegas?

How clueless & delusional is he: “I don’t get it,” the president said, venting confusion and frustration. “All these other Republicans, all over the country, they all win their races. And I’m the only guy that loses?”

Yes

The Trump participation in the event has been canceled.

I’m betting Rudy has it. Boris Epshteyn has also tested positive.

I've posted this on here before I think. But I can't remember, so I'll do it again. Most people have a different relationship with their congressional representatives and senators then they do with the President. It's a more intimate relationship. A lot of people focused in on Susan Collins, but if she is bringing the goods back home to Maine, then most voters can overlook her constant state of being concerned.

Seniority matters in DC, and in politics in general. I would have hard time getting rid of a senior member of congress for agreeing with an unpopular president, IF AND ONLY IF they were delivering on their promises back home. Collins is #12 in seniority, that is important for Maine.

Susan needs to be beaten with a large and heavy stick.

Not on her face, though...the damage has already been done...by Mother Nature.

R406 Well, it was meant to be the Wyndham hotel, it's actually going to be Wyndham Absolute Gardening Solutions

Not surprised Trump canceled. I am sure real lawyers told him that would be a very bad idea. And using the word hearing implies official. This seems like a joke in a hotel conference room.

Many parliamentary proceeding take place on hotel ballrooms.

What is their gameplay? Keep talking about fraud in PA even though the vote has already been certified? I really don’t understand their strategy. It’s not working with the courts to simply promulgate lies and unfounded speculation.

Wake me up when they explain why over 80K votes in PA should be thrown out.

[quote]What is their gameplay? Keep talking about fraud in PA even though the vote has already been certified? I really don’t understand their strategy. It’s not working with the courts to simply promulgate lies and unfounded speculation.

Gameplay? Strategy? You give them way too much credit. Their gameplay is to throw a lot of outrageous lies against the wall, with zero evidence for any of it, and hope that something sticks. Oh, and to promise to reveal damning evidence at a later date not yet determined. And ultimately to have the Supreme Court make the decision.

But they have not filed any case that the US Supreme Court would be willing to take. Nor would the Supreme Court disenfranchise voters in multiple states. I think it’s purely for PR and to lay the groundwork for more Republicans to be elected and to steal future elections.

[quote] Seniority matters in DC, and in politics in general. I would have hard time getting rid of a senior member of congress for agreeing with an unpopular president, IF AND ONLY IF they were delivering on their promises back home. Collins is #12 in seniority, that is important for Maine.

Agree, R414. That's called "pork." If your state has someone very senior, esp. in the Senate, who is bringing home pork, you're loathe to get rid of them.

"Thank you, Supreme Court!" -- Donald J. Trump

SCOTUSblog has said a few times that there is absolutely no chance of the SC hearing the case in PA and there’s zero chance of them overturning the election. It is over.

The continuing charade is for fundraising, fear of Trump, house races for 2022, and justification for when these state legislators absolute guy voting rights in their respective states. They will try to completely abolish mail in voting unless you’re on your deathbed.

Wait! Rudy does have a plan! An idiotic one, but a plan.

"IS PETE THERE??????"

Pete will be a Men's Room Attndant at the White House, and I got a job washing dishes. It's a start..

R427.

So their plan is to try and get the US Supreme Court to intervene and allow Republican legislators to invalidate the results of several state elections and choose Trump, thereby destroying democracy. Morons.

[quote]Their gameplay is to throw a lot of outrageous lies against the wall, with zero evidence for any of it, and hope that something sticks.

They should include a pair of DJT's dirty briefs.

[quote]So their plan is to try and get the US Supreme Court to intervene and allow Republican legislators to invalidate the results of several state elections and choose Trump, thereby destroying democracy.

Yeah, that'll work.

The Trump’s campaign is asking to have Rudy Giuliani deliver the argument before the U.S. Court of Appeals in its attempt to block Pennsylvania’s certification of the election

PA already certified tho...I think that’s pretty iron clad, no?

Rudy is also saying that he believes Trump actually won Virginia. FACT: Biden beat trump by 10 points, 450k votes, in VA

“Trump and his allies have normalized the kind of post-election assault on institutions typically seen in less-developed democracies, according to historians, former administration officials, and lawmakers & diplomats from across the political spectrum.”

I wonder if you can just not even invite him to the inauguration, although I'd guess he wouldn't go anyway. Plus I don't think anyone should try to overdo it with the graciousness in the Inaugural Address. He sucked, he's a criminal, he tried to steal the election, he would break every institution if it left him in charge. I really don't want to hear any praise, even faint praise, of this asshole from anyone on inauguration day.

“my family voted for him, donated to him and are now being thrown under the bus by him,” writes the Georgia secretary of state

Why is the court of appeals even entertaining oral argument? Can’t they just issue an order saying appeal denied? Waste of time to gone Rudy a mike. Ugly hot mess.

eek!

Rudy requested oral argument but hopefully the court will say NO PIGS ALLOWED.

[quote]“my family voted for him, donated to him and are now being thrown under the bus by him,”

So, do you see where your problem is?

r428 Thank you so much for your valuable contribution to this thread.

They may have straightened out the NY22 election after all.

It appears that the incumbent Democrat has beaten his Republican challenger (who held the seat previously) by 12 votes.

R435 Speaking of, I wonder what the inauguration will look like next year. I assume it'll be indoors. You just know Trump will bring up crowd size.

[quote]They may have straightened out the NY22 election after all.

[bold]1776 New York[/bold]

[quote]"Have you ever been present at a meeting of the New York legislature? They speak very fast and very loud and nobody listens to anybody else, with the result that nothing ever gets done."

Trump is used to moving in circles where everything he wants can be fixed by handing out envelopes full of money or calling in favors. This may be a feature of American government, in some places, some of the time, but not an entire national election. He's out of his depth and so is Giuliani, besides the cognitive decline, mental illness and substance abuse issues of course.

I hate to link to Fox News, but this looks scary.

It's on fucking fox news r446. Of course it looks scary.

Glenn Kirschner:

Biden's Pick for Secretary Of State, Tony Blinken, Is About to See What Pompeo Has Been Hiding

I will be happy to be reassured that it's nothing to worry about, R447.

Pennsylvania was certified yesterday and the electors already appointed, R446.

Yes, and the Fox news article notes that, though they buried it halfway through the article.

It will be interesting to see how long the conservative media keeps spinning the possibility that the election will be overturned. What fresh tactics will they come up with after the Electoral College votes on Dec. 14th?

The Pennsylvania case orders whatever remains of the certification process for the elections to be halted. If the certification for the Presidential and Vice-Presidential races is completed, this wouldn't affect it. This is geared more toward the lower ticket races.

McCullough: 60ish bottle-blonde, Catholic, Republican. In office until 2030.

No doubt enjoying her 15 minutes of notoriety, stopping the PA certification.

R446 I don't think it sounds that scary. Read the last five paragraphs of this article.

Desperate, party of one? Desperate? Your table is ready if you are here. No Desperate? Okay

Trump views the election like a zoning board ruling.

If it doesn't go his way, he just throws lots of lawsuits against it, some intimidation and plenty on non-cooperation in the hope that they'll just give in and he'll get his way.

He does not seem to realize the presidency is different than a local zoning board.

The article has the PA AG saying they are appealing momentarily anyway

Dump just gave full pardon to Flynn on twitter.

[quote]It is my Great Honor to announce that General Michael T. Flynn has been granted a Full Pardon. Congratulations to @GenFlynn and his wonderful family, I know you will now have a truly fantastic Thanksgiving!

And so it begins....

This is how you know HE knows he's leaving office. The flurry of pardons for his cronies.

Well, Judge Sullivan shouldn't have delayed so much. At least we would've gotten the satisfaction of the judge smacked Flynn down.

R459 - Both "men" are traitors and pieces of shit.

Trump called into the phony “hearing” in the hotel and said he won the election.

Speaking Wednesday as a witness via speakerphone during the event, Trump once again falsely claimed that he won the 2020 presidential election. He made unproven, unspecified allegations of voter fraud, ballot dumping and voter suppression against his supporters.

Fucking TROLL at R446 STILL Trying to foment fear and worry.

Give it up, Boris!

Drink some more vodka, Svetlana!

Not happy about him getting to pardon ppl, but, YES, it looks like he is going to GTFO.

Will the Flynn pardon be challenged?

The PA AG has said that ruling does not effect the electors. It’s for downballot races not certified yet.

I mean, it comes with an admission of guilt and an inability to plead the Fifth at any future hearings....

Judge Sullivan, your move . . .

The last cries of a dying cult

R446 you probably won’t believe this, but I am as blue a Democrat as they come. That Fox article made me nervous because I was afraid that tRump and his cronies had found a Repug PA judge that could cause a problem with the certification. I was very happy to be reassured that it’s just another one of their crazy schemes.

The PA Supreme Court is 5-2 dem majority. They’ll toss this nonsense.

R473, Let me guess: you're a "Lifelong Liberal Democrat who voted for Obama twice AND Hillary, but..." right?

As pointed out, you didn't even READ the article. You just sit on Fox News all day and look for stories to scare the gays on Datalounge.

What a sick fucker you are, Svetlana.

Ah yes, one of those blue Democrats who reads and links to Fox News, and who ignores the reassurance given later in the article by the tweet from the PA AG

Ooops ... I guess that wall isn't high enough.

[quote] In the waning days of the Trump Administration, the US isn’t just continuing the border wall, it’s charging forward: now it’s erecting razor wire along the border wall in El Paso.

Glenn Kirschner:

Trump Corruptly Pardons Mike Flynn. Does Judge Sullivan Have Any Options Left in Flynn's Case?

r436, his family is getting death threats and so is the governor, brian kemp and his family because trump's crazy lawyer sidney whatever, announced that "brian kemp and Bernie Sanders are/were working together to rig the elections in the democrats favor" and they also worked with Hugo Chavez (who died in 2013) and Hugo helped them get the voting machines. She basically said, brian kemp is a socialist's socialist.

Didn’t Brian Kemp have a campaign commercial where he was riding around in a trailer truck implying that he would be rounding up Mexicans?

He (and his complicit family) can burn in hell.

[quote]Pete will be a Men's Room Attndant at the White House, and I got a job washing dishes. It's a start..

Pete would look so cute in that little uniform.

Flynn, 2016: If you plead the Fifth, it means you're guilty.

Flynn, 2017: I plead the Fifth.

Lady Justice, 2021: OK, tell everyone what you did.

It’s been pointed out many times but Trump can never admit defeat. He always will say “I won” even when he lost. In business, whatever. In an election, it’s very dangerous. It makes me think all over again that he is a Russian asset. This is exactly what they do to undermine democracy and instill authoritarian rule. It’s taking on comical levels like the “hearing” today which was made to look official but really was just an impromptu meeting in a hotel. What happened to the Kraken lawsuit from demented Sidney?

Hillary explained it all.

Garrett M. Graff:

The Flynn pardon is a corrupt abuse of power, a move even Richard Nixon knew he couldn’t get away with for his co-conspirators. This is one of the most corrupt actions ever by a US president. Full stop.

tHE HILL: House Democrats seek list of Trump appointees "burrowing in" to Biden administration

House Democrats are asking the Trump administration to turn over a list of employees who will be slotted into a new category of federal employment that critics fear will be used to retain Trump political appointees. The request, made to 61 government agencies, comes as agencies have begun implementing an October executive order from President Trump that creates a new employment category, Schedule F, for policy-focused positions within the federal government.

Early signs show the Trump administration may seek to place a significant number of its employees into the new Schedule F category. A memo obtained by Real Clear Politics found the Office of Management and Budget planned to place 88 percent of its employees, 425 people, into this category. Trump’s order gives agencies 90 days to determine which policy-related positions should attain the new status, a deadline that will end just as President-elect Joe Biden takes office.

“We are seeking a full accounting of political appointees who have already been hired into career positions or are being considered for such conversion,” lawmakers wrote in the letter and signed by each House committee chair.

Richard W. Painter:

He's been dangling this pardon for a long time. Now he gives the pardon to Michael Flynn, probably in return for Flynn keeping his mouth shut. This sure looks like obstruction of justice by @realDonaldTrump.

The question of why did Flynn lie when he didn’t even have to is still out there.

Biden should spend late January revoking Trump executive orders nonstop

Jon Favreau on Twitter:

"What it’s come to: Trump phones in to cry about fake fraud to a fake hearing in a state that’s already certified a win and a slate of electors for Joe Biden. New levels of sad and pathetic."

R489 I think they've already said that that is exactly what he plans on doing, but I could be wrong.

[quote]He's been dangling this pardon for a long time. Now he gives the pardon to Michael Flynn, probably in return for Flynn keeping his mouth shut. This sure looks like obstruction of justice by @realDonaldTrump.

But if he accepts a pardon, he CAN'T keep his mouth shut unless he wants to be convicted of perjury or contempt, for which he won't be pardoned.

116 votes in Ohio.

I'm surprised Dump is pardoning people. I imagined he'd be the guy who says 'Fuck you, I didn't get what I wanted and neither do you'.

R493.

2020 US Presidential Election in King County, Washington State, home to the liberal city of Seattle. It's the 12th most populous county in the US.

Joe Biden won the county with 75% of the vote, which is the best performance for a presidential candidate in the county, *EVER*.

Sidney Powell has released her kraken. It’s 104 pages of gibberish and there’s two typos in the headline alone. Also no evidence it was actually filed in any court. More gritting. Brian Kemp is one of the people being “sued” by her. I’m sure Mitch is thrilled. This could kill the senate races in GA if republicans decide to stay home

This story brings me so much joy.

A Trump supporter donated $2.5 million to a group promising to prove voter fraud. Now the supporter is suing the group because they’ve given up.

There really is a sucker born every minute, R498. What a great story!

Sidney Powell is mentally ill.

And the Trump cult is ready to follow her over the cliff.

There’s no indication that the GA kraken was even filed in a court. Doubt it ever will be. According to lawyers on Twitter, if she did file it would be the type of nonsense that the bar association would look in to.

It’s a giant money making scheme and sadly she’s probably raising tons of money. Those Q people actually believe she’s going to swoop in, go to the Supreme Court, and get the election overturned.

See:

I think the revocations are done and simply need to be signed and dated 1.20.2021

Frightening r486.

A time bomb that needs to be defused immediately.

[quote]Well At Least The Trumps Have One Last WH Christmas To Look Forward To... Oh

Thanks for sharing r496. This is my home county. I’m happy to see we more than did our part in voting dump’s ass out.

@AdamSerwer Trump is the third president to ever be impeached and we seem to have forgotten it ever happened in less than a year

A Thanksgiving message from Joe and Jill.

Both of the Release the Kraken cases filed by Powell were riddled with typographical issues.

The case in Michigan had a number of formatting problems that removed spacing between words, Bloomberg reports. In the Georgia suit, the word district was misspelled twice on the first page of the document. There was an extra c for "DISTRICCT," and then it was spelled "DISTRCOICT."

R436 "I never thought leopards would eat MY face!"

There’s no evidence that Sidney even filed the court case. In Georgia at least. My guess is it will never see a court room and she’s using it to fundraise off all the Q people who are desperate for her to overturn the election.

It truly is nonsense. It’s all conspiracy theories and it’s incoherent. I don’t think she’d dare bring that to a judge.

Her Michigan court case hinges on testimony from someone who claims they infiltrated an ANTIFA conference call where they discussed rigging the election.

Sidney Powell needs to be sanctioned, fined, and the Bar association needs to give her a good looking over.

Republicans in GA need to listen to Sidney and boycott the Senate runoffs!

[quote]Sidney Powell needs to be sanctioned, fined, and the Bar association needs to give her a good looking over.

Along with a psychic evaluation.

[QUOTE] Along with a psychic evaluation.

Oh, dear.

*psychological evaluation

If Trump wasn't such a massive fuckup he should have won the election. He had the incumbency, he had courts and state and local governments full of obliging dupes willing to fiddle the numbers for him, and raving fans happy to play to the news cameras and make it look as though he had a massive fanatical following. First mistake: spending the last four years playing the nonstop alt-right troll, alienating and offending people who otherwise might have supported him or at least remained neutral. Second, telling Republicans not to take advantage of absentee ballots or early voting. Third and most important, catching COVID and going into the hospital, which made him look weak and reminded his fans that he's not really the superhuman he plays on TV. Losing both the popular vote and electoral college and by such substantial margins just proves he has no business being in politics and should take his ego back to the dirty world of small-time real estate grifting.

[quote]Along with a psychic evaluation

I'll take over then...

[quote]the Bar association needs to give her a good looking over.

Oh, I'm looking her over alright. The woman is HOT!

I've done a psychic evaluation on all of them. Walk on by, baby. Walk on by...

[quote]Along with a psychic evaluation

I'm available!

Unfortunately, Sylvia Browne is no longer available.

What about Chip Coffey?

Yes I am, r521.

And by the way, all your missing kids are dead and here. Abandon all hope everyone!

A psychic evaluation would probably yield the same results.

Maybe this pro is available:

From r504...

Is Linda Georgian available for a free psychic consultation?

The Vairst Lady gonna go out like she came in.

Glenn Kirschner is not having it on Trump's corrupt pardons.

I see white people going to jail !

[quote] The Flynn pardon is a corrupt abuse of power, a move even Richard Nixon knew he couldn’t get away with for his co-conspirators. This is one of the most corrupt actions ever by a US president. Full stop

It is. And if people were smart they would troll conservatives on Twitter with, "this is so great, Joe Biden will be able to do the same thing for any and everyone "

Daily Beast argues that Ghouliani should lose his license for lying to the court.

The article also notes that he claimed to be licensed in the District of Columbia, where in fact he’s currently suspended for not paying his dues.

ees the MOST fuck time of year

Well Ghouliani should certainly lose his right to appear on television, except maybe late night with a trigger warning.

Happy New Year . . . in jail!

Can the court order a mental health evaluation for Sidney Powell? She’s a very sick woman. Her “kraken” is 104 pages of total nonsense. The writings of a severely mentally ill woman. The Qanon people are crazy but I actually kind of feel bad for them that they’re sending that woman buckets and buckets of money. She’s playing on their fears of a Biden presidency.

[quote]Daily Beast argues that Ghouliani should lose his license for lying to the court.

Ghouliani should lose his license just for being a despicable human being.

R 534 You see when grifters and bottom-feeders turn on each other, as they did when Powell was unceremoniously let go by the Trump Team, the crazy both dilutes and doubles over.

But the internecine and intraparty savageness will consume them to their own detriment.

Will Wilkinson: “Democrats, struggling to make sense of it all, are locked in yet another round of mutual recrimination: They were either too progressive for swing voters — too socialist or aggressive with ambitious policies like the Green New Deal — or not progressive enough to inspire potential Democratic voters to show up or cross over.”

“But they should understand that there was really no way to avoid disappointment. Three factors — the logic of partisan polarization, which inaccurate polling obscured; the strength of the juiced pre-Covid-19 economy; and the success of Mr. Trump’s denialist, open-everything-up nonresponse to the pandemic — mostly explain why Democrats didn’t fare better.”

“This shocking strategy worked for Republicans, even if it didn’t pan out for the president himself. Moreover, it laid a trap that Democrats walked into — something they should understand and adjust for, as best they can, as they look ahead.”

“ They were either too progressive for swing voters — too socialist or aggressive with ambitious policies like the Green New Deal — or not progressive enough to inspire potential Democratic voters to show up or cross over.”

Democrats need to stop Believing that there is some mythical large number of progressive voters that don’t vote that would vote if only Democrats would be more progressive. Democrats would lose even more if they went any further left.

Democrats also need to realize that the fear of black and urban people largely worked, even if Trump Lost.

I can't believe that over 70 million fools voted for that creature, but the power of incumbency is no joke. I can't expect Democrats to take responsibility for every foolish thing and bad messaging that is created by activists, but at the same time they don't need to embrace it either. Bottom line, the American people don't want the truth. They want a lie. So democrats need to start lying and pretending and they need to stop following the rules, because apparently the rules no longer matter.

R539 - LBJ’s quote on the matter has yet to be inaccurate.

LBJ underestimated how long the backlash would last

"Defund the Police" lost the Democrats millions of votes.

I still think that several of these black murder victims post-George Floyd were specifically killed in order to keep up the protests and “Defund the Police” messaging.

I'm the furthest thing from a conspiracy theorist, but keeping black people riled up to scare white people has worked for republicans in the past.

I am still amazed there was no "caravan" this year.

Well, we'll always have...

What are the big things coming out in the next two weeks? More failed lawsuits or weird hotel meetings with Republicans?

Iran's top nuclear scientist was assassinated and Iran blames Israel. Does anyone think the Trump administration could have had something to do with it?

Democrats were in a Catch 22. Denounce elements of the protests, and they risked depressing black and young support. But the movement became politically toxic and out of control, and Democrats needed to distance themselves from it

Trump today:

[quote]Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!

Gee, I wonder why he singled out those cities? (See R539).

R551 - He's so confused - Biden is the winner and he is the loser therefore TRUMP has to prove voter fraud. Duh.

[quote]What are the big things coming out in the next two weeks?

Whatever bullshit lies Trump happens to pull out of his big fat ass at any given moment.

"Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous '80,000,000 votes' were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. "

*

And *I* don't have to prove that they were!

[quote] I'm the furthest thing from a conspiracy theorist, but keeping black people riled up to scare white people has worked for republicans in the past.

It's not paranoia when they're truly out to get you. It was clear that Trump administration wanted to keep the proverbial fires burning as long as possible for a couple of reasons

1. Republicans and centrists who are "law and order" type were turned off by rioting and looting. A good number of people respond to that viscerally without trying to understand the reasons for such protests, how much of that was staged etc. (I am far from being one of those but...)

2. The more people talked about that, the less they did about COVID-19, which is still a much bigger threat to public safety than a broken window or damage to a cake shop owned by a suburban frau.

Can someone please refute all these claims?

This won’t be over until Inauguration Day. Once the EC certifies Biden’s win, the next stop will be trying to get members of congress to try to block congress from certifying the results. That is going to be a crazy day. Expect a LOT of theater from congressional GOP “protesting” the vote. Miss Pence, who resides over the certification, will cause some trouble too IMO.

This is far from over. The coup is far from defeated.

The Federalist...no...

The Federalist piece is for bitchy Republicans who need validation that something just doesn’t feel right to them about losing, so therefore there must have been massive fraud by black voters in big cities (but only in swing states that Trump needed of course).

[quote]This is far from over. The coup is far from defeated.

STFU.

Another Trump case gets thrown out. This is an appeal case in Pennsylvania.

Brad Heath@bradheath

[quote]The Third Cir. has rejected Trump's appeal. Decisively.

[quote]"Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

[quote]The court rejects Trump's arguments pretty categorically. He loses on everything. And there's no point in letting him file a new complaint, because he'd lose on that too.

That’s the case they want to get to SCOTUS

[quote]That’s the case they want to get to SCOTUS

That should work out well for them.

SCOTUS would never hear this case. If they did that would be the end of the court and they all know it.

That's what I'm reading, R562 and Bibas is Trump appointed judge.

Oh, so once again Democrats pick a safe, centrist ticket and are rewarded with a million shrieks and howls about how they have to stop embracing the radical left and get off twitter and stop telling everyone how much they want to kill whitey.

Maybe Dems should just stick to a few principles and not worry too much about what neurotic fools and media grifters are going to say about them.

[quote]Another Trump case gets thrown out. This is an appeal case in Pennsylvania.

They don't need to worry about it now. The Kraken has been released.

Another day, another loss for Rudy

Yeah, I don’t see Alito entertaining this. The lower courts opinion will stand.

[quote]Another day, another loss for Rudy

Trump might have done better with one of those mesothelioma law firms that advertise late at night on basic cable.

Staffers Hiding From Trump To Avoid Working On His Election Lawsuits

Diaper Don again trending on twitter

R572 That is great! Lol

Last one

Good news ar r568.

Do we think SCOTUS will take the case?

[quote]Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!

He should know better than anyone (except possibly Al Gore) that those 80 million votes have nothing to do with winning the election.

No R575. Every Supreme Court lawyer on Twitter says this is the final nail in the coffin. SCOTUSblog has said a few times that there is absolutely zero chance the court would hear this case.

Here's the link for ELECTION 2020, Part 25, for when we need it.

Thanks OP!

R568 Hilarious how Team Ghouliani says the loss in Pennsylvania is due to "the activitst judge machinery" when the three judges on the panel were all Republican nominees, and the guy who wrote the opinion was a Trump nominee.

R556, there's nothing to refute in the The Federalist's five "points", which are nothing more than data rehashed to inadvertently point out that Trump lost by cutting off his nose to spite his face.

Whomp-whomp.

Why isn't this OVER? GAHHHH

Don’t worry. The lawsuits will not change the results. At this point, I am sure all the defense attorneys across the states are sharing the motion to dismiss papers since the lawsuits all make similar claims that are easily rejected, especially if the vote has already been certified.

SCOTUS had better not touch this shit with a fifty foot pole.

Ron Brownstein:

As always, under pressure, Trump turns to racial division: here a racist conspiracy theory that cities w/large Black populations conspired to steal the election from him-the distant bookend to the racist birtherism conspiracy theory that launched his national career.

Milwaukee County completed its recount.

Biden's lead there increased by 132 votes.

Here is the unanimous, 21-page opinion by the Third Circuit rejecting the Trump campaign's appeal in the Pennsylvania case, written by (Trump appointee) Judge Bibas:

R588 "The Campaign's claims have no merit."

He could have saved himself 20 pages.

That’s not how it works in the courts but thanks for playing.

Trump now promoting Rudy on Newsmax. Yes, that’s how low the bar is now.

R546, And no mention of all those mythical new factories Trump used to tout.

Plus, when was the last time he mentioned The Wall and Mexico's paying for same?

Poor QAnon loons. They are still waiting for him to bust that mythical gang of super-elite pedophiles. Maybe JFK Jr is on the task?

Raffi Melkonian@RMFifthCircuit

[quote]Re-reading the Trump PA case just now, I’m struck that perhaps never has a man lost so many cases so quickly. It’s not just the volume of losses, but how fast and total they are. I’m a little impressed.

(Appellate lawyer in Houston, TX with a Fifth Circuit)

[quote] Milwaukee County completed its recount. Biden's lead there increased by 132 votes.

To add to R587's post this is the recount where Trump paid $3 million or $22,727.27 per new Biden vote.

We The People, Who Are We?

Chris Krebs will be on 60 Minutes Sunday Night.

Rudy now openly saying they are trying to get legislators to intervene and choose their own electors.

Marc E. Elias:

NEW: We have filed our opposition to a petition filed by Republicans seeking to block the certification of the presidential election results in Wisconsin.

Diapers Don and the Republican Poopers lost again in PA Supreme Court

Bajour, dammit!