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Sting's been stung by sexual assault claim

Sting is being accused of sexually assaulting a minor more than four decades ago, a new lawsuit shows. Through his attorney, he “categorically denies” the allegation.

The civil lawsuit, filed Wednesday in Arizona federal court and obtained by Yahoo Entertainment, alleges that the British singer (real name: Gordon Sumner) committed statutory rape by having sex with a 15-year-old “Jane Doe” after meeting at a Police concert in Scottsdale on May 14, 1979. He was 27 at the time. Sting, as well as his the Police bandmates and the group’s tour bookers, are being sued.

Will it stick?

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by Anonymousreply 291Last Tuesday at 2:59 AM

Well, he’s done.

by Anonymousreply 111/19/2020

Please don't stand so close to me.

by Anonymousreply 211/19/2020

I loathe him and his wife, so i couldn't care less.

by Anonymousreply 311/19/2020

Every rock star was fucking 15 year olds back then. And she waited 41 years??? Good luck with that.

by Anonymousreply 411/19/2020

All rockstars are sick pedos, David bowie would have threesomes with underage boys and girls according to underage groupies.

by Anonymousreply 511/19/2020

isn't the statute of limitations covered in cobwebs on this one by now?

by Anonymousreply 611/19/2020

But the sex was tantric... if he didn’t cum does it count?

by Anonymousreply 711/19/2020

I guess the same personality type that drives one to become a groupie at 15 drives one to seek a #MeToo court case at 56; a rather unfortunate fact for all involved.

by Anonymousreply 811/19/2020

I met a woman who had been a groupie at age 15 and when she told me the names of the men she had been with, I wanted to throw up. I can never listen to their music again. She spoke glowingly of them, though.

by Anonymousreply 911/19/2020

OPs link is the only place this is being reported.

by Anonymousreply 1011/19/2020

Sounds like a "Sting" operation to me

by Anonymousreply 1111/19/2020

Who is this Sting? I've never heard of him.

by Anonymousreply 1211/19/2020

[quote]Will it stick?

More importantly, will it sting?

by Anonymousreply 1311/19/2020

[quote]having sex with a 15-year-old “Jane Doe” after meeting at a Police concert in Scottsdale on May 14, 1979

And they still haven't climaxed yet. Dragging the tantra thing out to its extreme.

by Anonymousreply 1411/19/2020

She got 40 years of bragging rights and NOW she wants a payoff too? Greedy! Every 15 yo of groupie from the 60s to the 80s who tried and succeeded to fuck a rock star got exactly what they wanted. It's very easy not to get statutory raped by rock star in an era when most people were fine with that. And the rock star can just take another from the group if one says no.

by Anonymousreply 1511/19/2020

I believe her. He may not remember her, but I’m sure at the time he was turned on by her being 15.

by Anonymousreply 1611/19/2020

Also, I wonder if Summers and Copeland have photos or film footage of her. I bet they do. Summers published nude photos of some of his groupies and Copeland seems to have been filming all the time during that tour. There’s a documentary about it. I bet this woman knows there is photographic evidence.

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by Anonymousreply 1711/20/2020

She was with her parents but left with Sting?

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by Anonymousreply 1811/20/2020

Sting's 2019 record only reached number 145 on the US charts. This rape story is the most press Sting has had here in ages. Maybe it'll revive interest in his career.

by Anonymousreply 1911/20/2020

I would have had sex with 27yo Sting when I was a 15yo teen. With pleasure.

by Anonymousreply 2011/20/2020

wouldn't you have?

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by Anonymousreply 2111/20/2020

He wasn't drop dead gorgeous but he was a sexy rockstar.

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by Anonymousreply 2211/20/2020

I was 15 in 1979 and would have been delighted if 27 year old Sting fucked me.

by Anonymousreply 2311/20/2020

I've got a cousin who was a groupie. Decades ago, she had Mick Jagger.

His opening line to her was "Hey, what are you looking at?"

"I don't know. It must be your ugly face.", she responded.

And thus started lust at first sight that lasted an hour or so.

True story

by Anonymousreply 2411/20/2020

A groupie is down to fuck. 50 years ago, no one was checking IDs to confirm age of consent.

by Anonymousreply 2511/20/2020

Having a 1979 Sting inside you is not assault. It's a privilege.

by Anonymousreply 2611/20/2020

"Just like the…old man in…that book by Nabokov…"

by Anonymousreply 2711/20/2020

Sting is a sleazy asshole, so I believe the groupie.

by Anonymousreply 2811/20/2020

A teen groupie fucked a rock star, I'm shocked!

But them again, starlets fucking movie producers was just as common, and looked what happened there....

by Anonymousreply 2911/20/2020

[quote] Sting, as well as his the Police bandmates are being sued.

Oh, no.

Couldn't care less if Gordon goes down, but I like the band's music and the other two guys. Stewart in particular has always had a soft spot in my heart, because he looks and acts just like the boy - brash, gangly, big-eyed, long-faced, with floppy blond hair - with whom I thought I was madly eternally in love when we were in high-school together.

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by Anonymousreply 3011/20/2020

I’m not with the woke crowd in cases like this. Even if I believe he had sex with her, I don’t think a 15 year old is a child. It’s also possible he didn’t know how old she was, or that she lied about her age. I also don’t like the idea of filing “anonymous” lawsuits. Supposedly, you have the right to face your accuser.

If I was on a jury, you’d have to show me some pretty compelling evidence that this happened.

by Anonymousreply 3111/20/2020

[quote] Sting, as well as his the Police bandmates are being sued.

Defund The Police!

by Anonymousreply 3211/20/2020

R32 W&W!

R30 any gay locker room vibes from Stewart? Sorry, had to ask!

I’m of two minds about the movie producer cases. I think in some of them there was definitely an exchange implied that these women understood, if they were insulted by it. It doesn’t make any assault right but these were adult women who could make their own decisions about whether to go to Harvey’s hotel room. And he held up his end of the “bargain” for some, resulting in roles and Oscars.

This case is different becasue 15 is really young and (I went to the website and read the both the legal doc and the victim’s statement) and she did tell him twice that she was 15. I don’t know if it was the Police documentary where I saw this , but some rock group documentary or book (maybe John Taylor’s of Duran Duran) said each day management would give the band members an itinerary of the day’s events with a number in the upper corner. That number was the age of consent in that particular US state!

The guy who managed the Police, Miles Copeland, wasn’t a dummy. (Read all about how he manipulated the guys in Squeeze so that even their two songwriters weren’t getting much from their hits, but Copeland was). I think that he should have been aware that holding these “meet and greets” in record stores would result in teenagers showing up. He should have made it very clear to the band not to fuck teens!

Also, STING was an intelligent adult who was a former teacher! So if anyone should have been aware of boundaries, it was him. He even asked her if she was a virgin!

Finally, as I speculated above, Stewart DID film Sting and this kid interacting! Apparently she can be seen in his recent documentary.

I feel for this girl as I did Samantha Geimer. And she may very well be able to prove the effect it had on her via her therapy records.

I’ll be interested to see what happens. I don’t like that he outright lied and said it didn’t happen. He should have been more vague in his denial. I suspect his PR machine is working overtime to bury this story.

by Anonymousreply 3311/20/2020

Isn't this the guy who doesn't believe in bathing?

STINK is more like it.

by Anonymousreply 3411/20/2020

I was molested.

by Anonymousreply 3511/20/2020

My pussy stings!

by Anonymousreply 3611/20/2020

I just hope her name is Roxanne.

by Anonymousreply 3711/20/2020

How could she tell if he put it in her?

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by Anonymousreply 3811/20/2020

These former groupies should get reparations as a matter of course. How many great rock songs wouldn’t have been written were it not for their young pussy and their slavish attendance at concerts? They propped up an entire arts economy.

by Anonymousreply 3911/20/2020

This is just as bad as those claiming they were raped in the Boy Scouts are they broke and in need of money.

by Anonymousreply 4011/20/2020

R38 Hahaha. That’s disappointing.

by Anonymousreply 4111/20/2020

Sorry but if you already aren't a virgin, and you willingly went backstage or onto the tour bus or back to the hotel, then I think you were doing exactly what you wanted to be doing in that moment, and there should not be any "take backs" later in life.

by Anonymousreply 4211/20/2020

R42 She claims she told him twice she was a virgin.

by Anonymousreply 4311/20/2020

R38, wow, he’s tiny.

R39 you make an interesting point.

by Anonymousreply 4411/20/2020

Interesting that there is very little coverage of this story.

by Anonymousreply 4511/20/2020

If others start creeping out of the woodwork there's a story.

by Anonymousreply 4611/20/2020

R43 Why did she go off with him? What did she think was going to happen? I mean, losing your virginity to Sting is kind of amazing in and of itself. Why litigate NOW? Is it cuz he didn't marry you? Like -- what is the endgame?

It's just weird to suddenly be like, "Okay, you know what? I regret that thing I did 41 years ago. I'm embarrassed that I trusted a 27 year old rock star to care about me, a little teenybopper fan, and my ultimate well being. But instead of putting accountability squarely on myself, and instead of seeing the lesson, and instead of counting my blessings of the past 41 years...I am going to punish this now-70 year old guy, because he didn't protect my virginity for me, and we didn't live happily ever after."

by Anonymousreply 4711/20/2020

R47 You’re putting the onus entirely on this 15 year old. Doesn’t a 27 year old man have any accountability? It’s worth reading the complaint. It sounds like the sex was was forced, not consensual. Maybe she’s lying, I don’t know. But I think there is more to this than what’s come out so far. Copeland filmed it; let’s see the footage.

by Anonymousreply 4811/20/2020

I should add that I also believed Christine Ford, the woman who came forward during the Kavanaugh hearing.

I don’t know why girls bury these events and then some confront them later. Maybe some life event triggers this. I can imagine there is shame involved.

There’s an autobiographical movie called The Tale which features a protagonist in her 40s who has buried a similar event until her mother finds a school essay she wrote at the time and forces her to face what happened. The main character keeps trying to brush off the teenage sex with a much older man as consensual. I don’t know. That movie really affected me.

by Anonymousreply 4911/20/2020

I should add that I also believed Christine Ford, the woman who came forward during the Kavanaugh hearing.

I don’t know why girls bury these events and then some confront them later. Maybe some life event triggers this. I can imagine there is shame involved.

There’s an autobiographical movie called The Tale which features a protagonist in her 40s who has buried a similar event until her mother finds a school essay she wrote at the time and forces her to face what happened. The main character keeps trying to brush off the teenage sex with a much older man as consensual. I don’t know. That movie really affected me.

by Anonymousreply 5011/20/2020

Lucky ho.

by Anonymousreply 5111/20/2020

Bon Jovi, you're in danger, gurl.

by Anonymousreply 5211/20/2020

R48 I haven't read the suit. So my yammering is more about how people themselves struggle with taking accountability. If he forced her into sex, that is gross.

But why was she there?I Why was she in a situation where she ended up alone with motherfucking Sting? Answer: She made a choice, a terribly naive choice.

I guess that's what rubs me the wrong way - the lack of accountability for one's own choices. She wasn't 6. At 15 you can be left home alone, and you can babysit other peoples' children. If you can be left alone, or left alone with someone's young kids, then you should be able to make independent, reasoned choices that preserve your well-being and the well-being of others. Period.

And if she was in fact raped, I wish she would have done something about it sooner. Cuz it doesn't seem fair to wait until someone has had a full life, grown, evolved, had grandchildren, found spirituality, etc etc...and THEN punish the person for what they did at age 27.

by Anonymousreply 5311/20/2020

If it looks like the charges are going to stick, I think we'll see 'an out of court settlement'. We can't be upsetting the royalties' cash flow, can we?

by Anonymousreply 5411/20/2020

Ok I just read the article. So again, why did she go to a party with this 27 year old? Why did she go to the hotel with him when it was obvious he was fondling and groping her at the party? Why didn't she refuse to leave the hotel lobby and demand to call her parents then and there? So many moments when she could have stopped the escalation. If she was old enough to be out at night with her parents' consent, she was old enough to understand that she could be preyed upon by older men, and old enough to have a game plan for when that happened.

And in 1979 15 year olds were regularly having sex and going out looking and acting like 20 year olds. I remember, I was there.

I feel bad for the woman. I do believe here that Sting forced himself inside of her and that she didn't enjoy it.

by Anonymousreply 5511/20/2020

R53 Yeah, I know what you mean. But that’s what fascinated me about the film, The Tale. The director (played by Laura Dern) denies what happened until her mother made her face it.

I suspect (with no evidence) that this woman saw the recent documentary by Stewart Copeland and seeing herself in it brought back the rest of what Copeland filmed that night which wasn’t included. This is the event which forced her to confront what actually happened.

Also, I think the loophole law allowing for reporting this now was recently enacted and will end next month, I believe. She may well have wanted to take action when she was 20 but couldn’t. Again, speculation.

What I don’t agree with is the argument that because he is elderly, has grandkids, or loves rainforests means we should shrug this off. What you call “punishment” is to him a drop in the bucket. This is the man whose accountant stole $3M and he never noticed.

The director of The Tale found her abuser and engaged in a dialogue with him. He’s fairly famous in terms of college athletics. She didn’t ask him for money, she just wanted to know why. Maybe this woman attempted to do the same with Sting and he refused.

by Anonymousreply 5611/20/2020

I do think being a groupie and running after rock stars is stupid. I also believe he probably forced himself on her because he was so used to being serviced by eager teens as part of his due. So teens, if you don’t want to put out, stay off the damn tour bus and Far from the green room. The rock guys do not want to read Proust with you or look into your souls. They want pussy and BJ.

by Anonymousreply 5711/20/2020

R55 You ask why she went? This is why there are consent laws. The law holds that she was not able to make this decision for herself. Now where her parents?

But if her parents were negligent in their failure to protect her, it doesn’t mean Sting isn’t also responsible for his actions.

And again, he was a grown ass man! God, I remember myself at 15. I was so impressionable.

by Anonymousreply 5811/20/2020

Part of the enduring trauma is probably that she never saw him or heard from him again. He used her for his own selfish gratification, without a thought. And left town. Rape or no rape, that sort of treatment makes one's self-esteem plummet. I remember only too well as a younger person, the awful feeling of having been picked out of a crowd at the club or the bar, and chatted up, flattered to all hell, only to be used, and dumped. the "I'll call you" that doesn't happen. It's a yucky feeling.

by Anonymousreply 5911/20/2020

What was the age of consent in Arizona in 1979?

by Anonymousreply 6011/20/2020

[quote] and chatted up, flattered to all hell, only to be used, and dumped. the "I'll call you" that doesn't happen. It's a yucky feeling.

yeah...it's called life and she was trying to learn about it a little too early it seems.

by Anonymousreply 6111/20/2020

Even a fifteen year old cant be so deluded that they think a rock star, who probably has sex with a different girl every night, would really care about them. That is so naive. I was fifteen once and maybe I’m cynical by nature, but I was aware of the predation of pussyhounds.

by Anonymousreply 6211/20/2020

It was possible in 1979 that a 15 year old, particularly a virgin, could have been naive enough to think that going backstage with a favorite musician only meant hanging out or maybe making out and petting like you did with high school boys who stopped at a certain point. Kids were simply not exposed to non-stop sexual imagery, porn, or even the level of innuendo that comes from every direction in media. Today I'd expect a 15 year old to know. Back then, not really.

She arrived with her parents and they were OK with letting her go? That's a powerful message. "Don't worry honey. Everything's going to be OK."

Don't be hard on her. Not all teen girls in the 70s hung around large city music scenes hoping to score rock star meat. And the certainly didn't know about a drunk or coked up male's proclivities. For every Connie Hamzy or Lorrie Maddox there were thousands of naive and gullible girls. The musicians knew this and reveled in it.

by Anonymousreply 6311/20/2020

More reports.

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by Anonymousreply 6411/20/2020

Well said R63

by Anonymousreply 6511/20/2020

I read Pamela Des Barres books and she reveled in being a teen groupie, so I think this affected my views. She was very sophisticated compared to probably 99.9 percent of teens of that era though.

by Anonymousreply 6611/20/2020

[Quote]I suspect (with no evidence) that this woman saw the recent documentary by Stewart Copeland and seeing herself in it brought back the rest of what Copeland filmed that night which wasn’t included.

I didn't realize Everyone Stares had been re-released last year with new commentary (Originally came out in '06). This is conjecture, but sounds plausible. Or a friend saw it and called her "Hey. I can't believe I just saw you in... Remember that concert!"

by Anonymousreply 6711/20/2020

She merely wants child support for her 40 year old son Stingeroo..

by Anonymousreply 6811/20/2020

R68 What about me?

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[quote] I don’t know why girls bury these events and then some confront them later. Maybe some life event triggers this. I can imagine there is shame involved.

R48/R49 not being glib, and don't jump down my throat about this, but I really think you do have to be female to understand.

We are heavily socialised to think that our worth is equivalent to our 'honour' and chastity, and that we are damaged goods if we have been touched by anyone other than steady boyfriends and husbands, but at the same we have also been aggressively cast as (this is a key word) objects of desire who should present and offer themselves as such. Since the emergence of an affluent Western middle-class, girls & young women have been the target of marketing, as consumers of sexual iconography and ways of presentation (i.e., clothes). It's a tragic, elaborate, insidious trap meant to serve male lust. No female under age 50 is safe from this, unless they wall up in a convent - not even the lesbians, the Frauen, or the ones you'd call ugly.

Stir in fresh teen girl hormones and the headiness of 70s-80s MTV culture, and something has to give somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 7011/20/2020

part of her statement

"I hope that getting justice and closure for my rape may help in my healing. Obviously, I will never get those years back, but I hope to feel some relief having finally broken my silence. The feeling of violation and loss of innocence is with me constantly and I have to actively seek creative ways of coping every day. [bold]The years and monetary expenses I have committed to maintaining my therapy are staggering.[/bold] My hope is to expose and stop my abuser and other abusers from doing this to anyone else and ruining another innocent young life in the process.”

OK, gurl - got it.

by Anonymousreply 7111/20/2020

I won't weep if there's a payout, Stings a billionaire. But the 70s were a fundamentally different time culturally, as squeamish as it makes people to discuss. Probably all of these rockers slept with underage groupies.

The Tale was an interesting movie because there was something sort of universal to anyone who has experienced trauma, even non sexual. You tend to look back later and wonder " did x cause y? Or would I always have made those choices and developed those problems? "

by Anonymousreply 7211/20/2020

[quote]But the 70s were a fundamentally different time culturally, as squeamish as it makes people to discuss. Probably all of these rockers slept with underage groupies.

She's claiming rape....not "sleeping with".

by Anonymousreply 7311/20/2020

[quote]The years and monetary expenses I have committed to maintaining my therapy are staggering.

Any other problems or just this?

by Anonymousreply 7411/20/2020

R73 My understanding from the article was that the sex was consensual but she was underage at the time.

by Anonymousreply 7511/20/2020

I wonder if he raped others, too. It would help her case if she wasn’t an anomaly.

by Anonymousreply 7611/20/2020

R67 LMAO I can imagine Stewart being secretly a little gleeful if his film is the crucial evidence that lands Gordon (and not himself) in hot water. Those two have had a bitter game of one-upmanship going for decades, and this could be the killing blow. It would also stroke Stewart's enormous ego that his film is culturally important and that a lot more people will bother to watch it, if only for salacious reasons.

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R70 I don’t think you’re glib at all. That is what I was trying to get at in my posts. I understand what you’re saying. The Tale movie shocked me, but I get it now.

by Anonymousreply 7811/20/2020

R75 The complaint says he forced her.

by Anonymousreply 7911/20/2020

R77 Yeah and though Stewart maybe did the same, he and Andy Summers were the ones constantly filming.

by Anonymousreply 8011/20/2020

Here is the 2019 law.

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by Anonymousreply 8111/20/2020

Here is the Conplaint.

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by Anonymousreply 8211/20/2020

Complaint, sorry.

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by Anonymousreply 8311/20/2020

Here is the victim’s statement.

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by Anonymousreply 8411/20/2020

[quote]This statutory rape caused and continues to cause Plaintiff immense harm. Though Plaintiff has attended therapy and counseling for many years, she continues to feel the vast harmful effects of Defendants’ behavior [bold]and suffers from flashbacks every time she hears a song by The Police or Sting and every time she sees an image of him[/bold]

It's pretty fucking silly.

by Anonymousreply 8511/20/2020

R85 I have the same reaction to Lady Gaga

by Anonymousreply 8611/20/2020

R9. Name some names, please.

by Anonymousreply 8711/20/2020

did she get any STDs from him?

was sting drunk or high?

sorry i didn't read the legal doc

by Anonymousreply 8811/20/2020

R77 - Funny you should say. One of the motives of re-release and new commentary is to dispell any notion of games of one upmanship!

[Quote]Frontman Sting is on board as well, and Copeland is anxious to discredit the "huge myth" he says exists about the Police men being at any odds with each other, then and now.

[Quote]We like each other, and we always have," he explains. "There was creative tension but our relationship with each other was then and has always been strong and we always enjoyed each other's company -- and still do. I think you see that in the film;

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by Anonymousreply 8911/20/2020

15-16 year old girls who went to rock concerts in the 60s and 70s knew exactly what they were doing, It's predatory to go after groupies, but come on. These were not totally innocent shrinking violets.

by Anonymousreply 9011/20/2020

R70 You must have missed the sexual revolution. People are a lot more prudish now than in the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 9111/20/2020

See this is what annoys me. This guy is like, Sting was married! He couldn’t have done this!

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by Anonymousreply 9211/20/2020

R59. If she thought Sting was going to marry her and they were going to live happily ever after then then she's stupid as fuck. Someone not living up to the standards of a relationship is not "abusive". You fraus need to stop painting every little thing as traumatic.

by Anonymousreply 9311/20/2020

I read the victim's statement. Its maudlin and highly editorial. Also rape described is statutory rape. Not forced rape. In the victims own statement, there is no claim that he insisted or force or coerced sex. There is no claim that she resisted the sex or said no. The statement describes a 27 yo rock star having sex with a 15 year old girl, so statutory rape.

Her claims of life long damage and inability to maintain any healthy relationship BECAUSE. of this rap will be very hard to prove and their a extremely scant details on her supposed life long therapy over this event.

So it boils down to the technical fact that she was underage and Sting knew and had sex with her.

All the rest is just a bunch unproveable drama.

It seems like a money grab.

by Anonymousreply 9411/20/2020

R63, I don’t know how old you are but the late 70s and early 80s was the era of teen sex movies. The whole premise of Little Darlings was to see which 15 year old girl could loose her virginity first, and one of the targets was a 30-something year old man.

Trust me, if you were a 15 year old virgin in 1979, male or female, you felt like there was something wrong with you. I know so many people from that time who had sex at the first opportunity just to get it over with. I knew middle school girls who were fucking high schoolers, and high schoolers who were fucking married men.

by Anonymousreply 9511/20/2020

R94 That’s why I said it will interesting to see what she comes up as to medical evidence (therapy).

Again, I’m probably in the minority on here because I believed Christine Ford.

It must be scary and confusing to be female at that age.

by Anonymousreply 9611/20/2020

I was molested by Adlai Stevenson and Dag Hammerskoldt!

Simultaneously!

by Anonymousreply 9711/20/2020

R91 I did miss it, emphatically. My parents were little kids during the sixties. But it doesn't change what I said - this tale is old as time.

R95's statement illustrates my point. This kind of attitude toward young women and their sexuality has only just begun to change or get better.

[quote] Trust me, if you were a 15 year old virgin in 1979, male or female, you felt like there was something wrong with you.

I did not feel this way at age fifteen, but certainly did by seventeen, and I was born almost thirty years after this Jane Doe. Is there a lot of difference in experience in 24 months? I somehow don't believe there is.

by Anonymousreply 9811/20/2020

'De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da', 'Roxanne', 'Don't Stand So Close To Me', & 'Every Breath You Take' are so fucking overcooked and overplayed that I feel like I'm being assaulted every time I hear them yet again on a car radio, in someone's house, or over a tannoy system in a public space. Plus Sting's solo albums were horrible pretentious bloviated rubbish. I might sue, as well.

Shamefully though, I do love some of there other lesser-heard hits, particularly 'Can't Stand Losing You', 'Spirits In The Material World', 'So Lonely', 'Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic', 'King of Pain', and 'Bring On The Night'. I guess 'Message In A Bottle' is a decent one, too, but again it's overplayed on commercial broadcasts these days. It's kind of crazy to think the band didn't break in or hit big with a well-known record until 1979, as they feel and sound like such a 70s band (at least to me, though I wasn't there at the time so I don't know for sure).

Turns out on looking it up that my ultimate favourite songs by The Police are actually written by Stewart - 'Contact', 'Does Everyone Stare?', and 'Darkness'.

by Anonymousreply 9911/20/2020

Don't look at us!

by Anonymousreply 10011/20/2020

R95 But was that a positive thing? I’ve read an account by a woman who claims David Bowie took her virginity at 12 or 13. She’s proud of it, she says. What kind of like did she go to lead? How did that experience influence who she became? Was the effect negative? Is that why it is socially frowned upon today?

When I was a dorky gayling, I recall peers that were so so sophisticated and others really childish still.

by Anonymousreply 10111/20/2020

I graduated HS in 1982 but my sister graduated in ‘79 and there were girls in her class and a few classes above that F-ed teachers and married dads. My class was all about conservatism, Reagan, and return of 50’s preppy dress. I only knew a few classmates that had sex but this was upper middle class in Ohio.

by Anonymousreply 10211/20/2020

So I am to understand that 100% of teen girls in all of America, not just the coasts, were sexually revolutionized and dying to get rid of their virginity regardless of upbringing? Or that they all felt deep shame about not getting their cherry popped? Isn't this black and white thinking or in the very least an over-generalization based on your peer group of the era? Do you think all high school kids were like you and your friends and were allowed so much freedom and access? Were you aware of what the unpopular, geeky kids were like or what they thought or what their sexuality was like? Or kids who came from other cultures?

Or was everyone like you?

by Anonymousreply 10311/20/2020

R95. I remember freshmen girls bragging about dating college men. Any girl that nabbed a guy in college was the envy of the school frauen.

by Anonymousreply 10411/20/2020

R37, you don't have to put out the red light because you've posted the best response.

by Anonymousreply 10511/20/2020

Perhaps in 1979 Sting considered her the young apprentice,

Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes.

by Anonymousreply 10611/20/2020

I was 17 years old in 1979 and I can DEFINITELY vouch for the people in this thread talking about how oversexed the late 1970s was to the extent that teens (like myself) felt seriously stigmatized if they were a virgin. As soon as I got to college, I got rid of my virginity at the first opportunity because I had been conditioned by society and peer pressure to view it as a boil--something to be ashamed of and to be removed as quickly as possible.

That said, I'm very suspicious that this woman waited SOO long to sue Sting for this alleged sexual assault. I'm thinking she's looking for a big payout.

by Anonymousreply 10711/20/2020

Her motives are suspect, but these men should be held accountable. It's funny how me only consider teenagers "adults" when it comes to sex...

by Anonymousreply 10811/20/2020

R108 YES.

by Anonymousreply 10911/20/2020

[quote] … he was a grown ass man…

He liked asses.

by Anonymousreply 11011/20/2020

Be Still My Beating Heart!

by Anonymousreply 11111/20/2020

R94

She may not have made a complaint about the encounter being forcible because '70s-era criminal law in Arizona likely didn't include date rape as an offense. It's only been very recently (in the past 20-30 years) that rape has been defined as any unwanted sexual intercourse. It used to be the case that non-statutory rape had to involve extreme violence or threats of extreme violence.

And while rape now technically includes simple non-consent, in practice, it's extremely difficult to prosecute those cases.

by Anonymousreply 11211/20/2020

Gordon is fey for a ladies' man, not the typical rockstar lothario. Suppose that comes of being English, and a former teacher.

by Anonymousreply 11311/20/2020

WHORES! CAN'T! GET! RAPED!

Trust me. I would know!

by Anonymousreply 11411/20/2020

Different era. Move on. Next!

by Anonymousreply 11511/20/2020

After 41 and she goes anonymous. Sorry but this is ridiculous.

Proving a sexual assault is difficult if it's dennounced at the moment, 41 years later is simply impossible. She wants money, if i was Sting i would sue her ass and ruin her life

by Anonymousreply 11611/20/2020

You can't sue someone for telling the truth

by Anonymousreply 11711/20/2020

But you have to prove "that truth". Good luck with that 40 years after

by Anonymousreply 11811/20/2020

R112 what the fuck is your point. Read her statement which was written now. There is no statement of forceable rape so I deduced that the crime here is based on statutory rape, which nowadays is rape. There is a claim that sex with sting ruined her for life. So - why did losing her cherry, consensually, with a 20 something guy, ruin her for life?

by Anonymousreply 11911/20/2020

R118 It seems likely that much of their encounter was captured by Stewart Copeland on video.

by Anonymousreply 12011/20/2020

Maybe she can prove the statutory rape. Thats about the limit. I guess that's what she wants to prove. The rest, as I said, her legal statement is maudlin editorializing and story telling.

by Anonymousreply 12111/20/2020

With the handy video cameras of 1979?

Oh for crissakes read the fucking statement. They were ALONE in his hotel room. The camera stuff came earlier at a party, elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 12211/20/2020

I believe he probably did fuck the 15 year old when he was 27. It was what rock stars DID, fuck little underage girls. Jimmy Page was screwing Lori Maddox when she 14 and he was 29. Rick Springfield had a very public affair with Linda Blair when he was 24 and she was 15. Don Johnson was plowing Melanie Griffith when she was 14 and he was 24. Actors, rock stars....they like to fuck little girls.

by Anonymousreply 12311/20/2020

Of course you have to prove that truth. But just because someone can't prove a crime that happened 40 years ago doesn't mean Sting can sue as R116 claims

by Anonymousreply 12411/20/2020

R123 I think we all get that men of all ages love to fuck teen girls. The issues are, how does that affect the teen who becomes a woman? Did Lori Maddox reach her full potential? Did her sexual activity as 13 year old affect that?

The other issue is legal. The AZ law holds that a fifteen year old cannot give consent.

by Anonymousreply 12511/20/2020

Men of all ages like to fuck teenagers. Not necessarily just teenage girls

by Anonymousreply 12611/20/2020

R122 The camera issue is interesting becasue Sting claimed it never happened AT ALL.

Yet, it seems that Copeland may have footage of them at the party, where Jane Doe alleges Sting touched her breasts and genitals.

by Anonymousreply 12711/20/2020

R126 True. Reminds me of Myserious Skin, starring DL fave JGL. Those were younger children, but it was interesting how, as young men, one embraced being gay and the other avoided sex.

by Anonymousreply 12811/20/2020

Rick Springfield, speaking of his affair with LInda Blair, said that if it happened today he'd probably be "lynched" but hey, it was the seventies. In the seventies everybody did everything with anybody and it was considered no big deal.

by Anonymousreply 12911/20/2020

This thread makes me think the 20th century fight for Sexual Freedom is going backwards.

by Anonymousreply 13011/20/2020

The only rape going on here is her and her attorney trying to rape his bank accounts.

by Anonymousreply 13111/20/2020

R119

The point is that she can't sue him for forcible rape if what happened to her wasn't illegal at the time. Since statutory rape was illegal in '79, she can sue him for that. If date rape wasn't illegal then (and it almost definitely wasn't, especially not in Arizona), then there's no point in making that allegation.

by Anonymousreply 13211/20/2020

Then why include the detail that it ruined her for life and she was from a good christian family and was destroyed by the evil rockstar? In your theory, she could say she LOVED HIS DICKING OF HER CHERRY, but it was statutory rape so he must pay.

We agree that statutory rape his her only possible successful pursuit here. I dont get what else you are going on about.

by Anonymousreply 13311/20/2020

well honey, did you see Sting's tiny cock? Of course he jumped at the chance to pop some girl's cherry. super tight pussy. his small cock would feel lost in a groupie whore's loose vag.

by Anonymousreply 13411/20/2020

R93 Funny...cuz I'm also R42, R47 and R53 who ultimately puts the blame square on the girl. I here you loud and clear. I just happen to be able to also empathize with a fifteen year old, who doesn't have the adult skepticism that we have aquired.

by Anonymousreply 13511/20/2020

I literally understand this woman's complaint, as I was date-raped too, and it claimed my virginity. And I still am not okay with her complaint. Because it happened 41 fucking years ago. Sorry, but sometimes you have to just dig deep and figure out how you ended up there in that room. And heal. And get some spirituality going.

by Anonymousreply 13611/20/2020

I was a teenager in the 70s and had sex with a 35-year man shortly after I'd turned 15. I was very curious about sex, wanted to know what it was like, and figured my best bet was to go with someone who had some experience. I actually created a profile of the type of guy I figured would be best to have sex with. At a slumber party, one of my girlfriends was talking about a friend of her dad's. I wasn't paying much attention until she mentioned a few more things about him and I suddenly thought - he could be the one. I asked her more questions and decided he fit my profile. So I arranged to be introduced to him a couple weeks later, and at that meeting at his house, without further ado, we had sex. I thought it was great fun.

We kept in touch and met up for sex regularly since then. He's now 80, I'm 60. We're not up for having sex anymore, but when we run into each other, we grin.

I am so fed up with the idea that any sort of sexual activity under the age of consent is inherently harmful. It is not inherently harmful. It's illegal, yes, it's not a good idea, we should all agree on that, but research has shown that the negative affects are linked to force or coercion. Which is no surprise, because anything that involves force or coercion is going to be harmful.

For the mentally unbalanced who have some need to believe that everyone who's had underage sex has been damaged by the experience, I say: get some help. Do you believe the same thing about kids who drank, smoked, or worked when underage? Were those activities always harmful just because they started too young? Hell, no. So stop fixating on sex and only sex - and be glad that it isn't always harmful.

by Anonymousreply 13711/20/2020

Did Sting take her "Desert Rose"?

by Anonymousreply 13811/20/2020

How can something that is "not a good idea" as you say R137, be okay? Adults having sex with teenagers is harmful because it encourages less experienced humans,with less developed brains into doing something that can have life long consequences. It's not a guarantee it WILL have those consequences but why take the risk with young people? If a kid/teenager is up for doing something risky it is up to adults in these situations to try and stop them, not encourage them to ENGAGE in said risky behavior by actively doing said behavior with those teenagers/kids.

What utter nonsense to use your anecdotal experience with some creep to justify what is, at the end of the day, exploitation.

by Anonymousreply 13911/20/2020

Having sex with underage boys or girls is just wrong. The adult is always taking advantage of the kid, now matter how many times the kid might say he or she "wanted it." That's an excuse Mary Kay LeTourneau, who started riding her 6th grader lover's dick when he was 13, used. She was 34 and he was 12 or 13 but she always said it was HIM who was the dominant one, him who was the one who instigated the sex. Maybe he did makes passes at her but he was just a little twerp, a child, and she was the adult. So the sex thing was ALL her fault. It's always the adult's fault.

by Anonymousreply 14011/20/2020

R137's experience sounds so normative even for the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 14111/20/2020

R140 - Also keep in mind that LeTourneau was diagnosed bipolar. What teen is prepared to understand and deal with all that entails?

by Anonymousreply 14211/20/2020

Being bi-polar is an excuse a lot of these female teachers use when they get caught fucking underage boys. Debra LaFave said the same thing, that she was mentally ill with bi-polar disorder, therefore absolving her of blame for fucking a 14 year old. I hear guys who fuck little girls are now using Asperger's Syndrome as an excuse. I think all the claims of being bi-polar and having Aspergers are horseshit.

by Anonymousreply 14311/20/2020

I didn't say it was an excuse, did I? I was trying to emphasize that a young child (yes, child) without a fully developed brain or much life experience doesn't have the capacity to suss out a teacher who is cycling into a manic phase. He didn't have it in him to figure out that he was an object of her delusional system, not a "true love" or what could compel someone to leave her own children behind for him. Granted, the law only managed a temporary intervention in this case.

by Anonymousreply 14411/20/2020

I think if that girl at that party with Sting grooomg her in front of eveyone, no one there she knows, her trying to act grown up and the other two band members leering at her through their camera lens.

by Anonymousreply 14511/20/2020

And you know this underaged girl was one in a cast of thousands for Sting and his bandmates.

by Anonymousreply 14611/20/2020

R146 I agree. I think others may step forward now.

by Anonymousreply 14711/20/2020

Why do people get involved with people named Jane Doe, it never works out well.

by Anonymousreply 14811/20/2020

Did anyone see the Oprah Winfrey episode with the famous rock star? He bragged how he was the very best thing that had ever happened to so many small-town young teens living in boring parts of the country. Claimed they'd gotten the thrill of their lives and a self-esteem boost, plus endless fantasies when they were with their boyfriends.

Oprah at her best asked the man why he never even talked to the girls when they were walking to his hotel room. He said that he always asked them their names but quickly forgot. He said he took to calling everyone "babe" as they seemed to like that pet name.

by Anonymousreply 14911/20/2020

Why doesn’t anyone ever fractionally deny an accusation?

by Anonymousreply 15011/20/2020

[quote] I’m not with the woke crowd in cases like this. Even if I believe he had sex with her, I don’t think a 15 year old is a child. It’s also possible he didn’t know how old she was, or that she lied about her age.

As r31 was writing that, a large trunk in the far corner of the room was emitting the sounds of struggle and a muffled voice.

by Anonymousreply 15111/20/2020

^ What do you mean?

He only half-raped her after she tempted him 33%.

by Anonymousreply 15211/20/2020

Oh not again Kamala

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by Anonymousreply 15311/20/2020

r38 That must be how he got his name, because getting fucked by him feels like 'just a little sting.'

by Anonymousreply 15411/20/2020

To all who mentioned being with a much older man was a status boost that all the other high school girls envied, I totally disagree. I graduated in 1985, and a girl in my class took her 30 year old BF to the prom. We thought it was gross. Any man 10 years or more older was like imagining your parents having sex..GROSS. HOWEVER, cute actors and rock stars, NOL GROSS, and all of us would have jumped at the chance to hook up with the guy we hung posters of on our virginal bedroom walls. So, yeah, I get it, as long as they were attractive and famous, like Sting was back in the day, it was a major fantasy.

by Anonymousreply 15511/20/2020

Some girls in that era were "wild" but others still very virginal and Conservative. Campus Crusade for Christ was huge in some schools.

Sure there were teens who hitchhiked from all over LA County and got fake ID's to attend rock concerts and buy beer. Being chosen to go backstage with a rock star would have been a big ego boost for them.

Can't put all teens in the same category. Getting pregnant back then meant dropping out of school or at least going to a special high school.

by Anonymousreply 15611/20/2020

Were Campus Crusade for Christ members going backstage at rock concerts?

by Anonymousreply 15711/20/2020

R157, yes.

by Anonymousreply 15811/20/2020

Are you male or female, r137?

by Anonymousreply 15911/20/2020

R155. The glamor disappeared if the guy was 30 or over. All the girls I knew in highschool wanted to date college boys or guys fresh out of college. It was not uncommon for a 16 year old girl to be dating a 23 year old guy, especially if he was in the Navy.

by Anonymousreply 16011/20/2020

R157, R158, Concerts were way, way too expensive for almost all of my high school. Campus Crusade for Christ members only went to Christian rock concerts or dances at their Baptist churches. Some boycotted the prom.

The "bad" girls who smoked cigarettes across the street from the high school would have seduced a rock star IF they had a chance. As did the drunk preacher's daughters and others from more Conservative backgrounds who got someone to take them to a rock concert.

Hispanic high school girls bragged about their older, more mature boyfriends. Marriage at 16 wasn't uncommon either. For everyone else these ideas were shocking, even taboo. Gossip of which seniors took a college boyfriend to the prom spread rapidly.

by Anonymousreply 16111/20/2020

R160, Parents from some cultures encourage their high school teens to date more economically stable, emotionally mature, settled young men which usually means college age. This is not casual sex, rock star fantasies lived out, frivolous fun.

by Anonymousreply 16211/20/2020

Know at least 2 girls from very Conservative, Christian families, victims of child sexual abuse, alcoholic, coke whores, who slept with rock stars when they were still underage. Rebellious, thrill seekers, they would never have considered suing for statutory rape.

However they did describe extremely kinky, abusive sex parties and orgies, and watching other teens get gang banged and treated like a piece of meat. Both have nightmares about their experiences.

by Anonymousreply 16311/21/2020

Hispanic parents complicit in the rape of their own girls? Except I was denied presence, as they obviously were.

by Anonymousreply 16411/21/2020

According to the legal document, Sting asked the girl how old she was and she told him. She also told him she was a virgin.

I don't see rape here but I find it odd Sting would ask a virgin to give him a blow job. I mean, really? How good could that be? That's like asking someone who has never driven to drive you to the next state. Unless, of course, he was giving her instructions while she was attempting to do it. (My first bf did that because I was so hopeless).

by Anonymousreply 16511/21/2020

Can’t believe I’m having to explain this, but straight men fetishise a woman’s virginity and inexperience as much as youth. They aren’t looking for experience and technique or a partner in their prime who knows they’re doing, like gay men.

by Anonymousreply 16611/21/2020

R164, Traditional Hispanic culture encourages women to get married after their quinceanera, a way to keep girls virgins to their husbands. Suitors know they face a date's father and brothers if they aren't serious about an engagement but push to make out.

by Anonymousreply 16711/21/2020

If you watch the video, the girl is probably the one seen at the 1:17 mark.

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by Anonymousreply 16811/21/2020

She should also sue her parents, who were certainly complicit. They were at the show, too, then let their virginal fifteen year old daughter take off without them and go party with the band after the show. You can't tell me they didn't have any idea of what was going to happen. If they'd had any concerns, they certainly would have prevented it.

In Buck Owens' biography, it was reported that some moms who were too old or unattractive to catch Buck's eye would bring their young daughters to him after the show and offer them to him in their place. And yeah, he then screwed their daughters. So there are parents who fully understand what they're letting their kids get into, or even setting them up for.

by Anonymousreply 16911/21/2020

R166, Agreed. Also some men are reluctant to be with a woman who could compare their sexual performance and size unfavorably to their previous lovers.

Others believe that a girl's 1st will be her most memorable for life. Or they want bragging rights to their band mates and friends re being "chosen" for that special role of 1st to penetrate. Of course it's an extremely over rated misconception.

by Anonymousreply 17011/21/2020

Lol, they're trying to make out that Sting wrote Don't Stand So Close to Me because of this girl.

Why are American legal complaints written in such biased language? I know they're literally full of accusations but in what way is "outrageous" a legal term?

It seems a bit odd to me that the girl's parents would with her to the publicity event and the concert but have no concern about her going to the afterparty and then back to Sting's hotel alone, without them or another adult or even the friend she was with. Also odd is that she and the friend apparently went to the concert separately from her parents and then she also wandered off and left her friend, during which time Sting randomly asked her to sit on his lap.

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by Anonymousreply 17111/21/2020

R171 My guess is that she told her parents she’d be going to her friend’s, not to a house party. When she left the party, she expected Sting to drop her off at the theatre where her friend was supposed to be. Her friend wasn’t there so she went back to the hotel, which was across the street, with the band, possibly expecting them to call a taxi for her from there.

by Anonymousreply 17211/21/2020

If you love someone , set them free.

by Anonymousreply 17311/21/2020

So r172, she was already aware that she was doing something that she "shouldn't" be doing and that her parents would disapprove of.

by Anonymousreply 17411/21/2020

R174 she was 15, not mentally challenged...

by Anonymousreply 17511/21/2020

So even though they were willing R163, it was traumatic and abusive? Imagine that...

by Anonymousreply 17611/21/2020

So even though they were willing R163, it was traumatic and abusive? Imagine that...

by Anonymousreply 17711/21/2020

But did she allow herself to be sodomised?

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by Anonymousreply 17811/21/2020

This is clearly a cash grab.

by Anonymousreply 17911/21/2020

We all did that (teens) back then. What's the f***ing big deal?

by Anonymousreply 18011/21/2020

Sting’s PR people are doing a great job burying this.

by Anonymousreply 18111/21/2020

She had sex with Sting 41 years ago......Lucky Bitch!

by Anonymousreply 18211/21/2020

Exactly. When he was his hottest!

by Anonymousreply 18311/21/2020

What, no love for Simon LeBon?

by Anonymousreply 18411/21/2020

R9- SPILL. PLEASE.

by Anonymousreply 18511/21/2020

R169- Who???

by Anonymousreply 18611/21/2020

As long as his “victim” is female, he should be fine. It’s only a cancellable offense if the accused is gay.

by Anonymousreply 18711/21/2020

Why didn't he just adopt her?

by Anonymousreply 18811/21/2020

If she didn’t get knocked up it’s her word against my denial.

by Anonymousreply 18911/21/2020

R149- Who was the rock star?

by Anonymousreply 19011/21/2020

R164- What do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 19111/21/2020

Did she squirt?

by Anonymousreply 19211/21/2020

Hot for teacher (and student)!

by Anonymousreply 19311/21/2020

[quote] I met a woman who had been a groupie at age 15 and when she told me the names of the men she had been with, I wanted to throw up. I can never listen to their music again. She spoke glowingly of them, though.

This post is pointless without names.

by Anonymousreply 19411/21/2020

R33- The Allman Brothers- Band that had the age of consent circled at the top page of their daily itinerary. Gregg Allman mentioned it in "My Cross to Bear".

by Anonymousreply 19511/21/2020

Thank you, R195. I think the members of the Police were aware that 15 was under consent.

by Anonymousreply 19611/21/2020

I never touched anyone underage!

by Anonymousreply 19711/21/2020

Jesus, look at Sting in R168 shot. He quickly became a bore but he was hot as a whip then.

by Anonymousreply 19811/21/2020

[Quote]Why didn't he just adopt her? —Steven Tyler

I think you mean Ted Nugent who did indeed adopt an underage groupie. Unless, Tyler did, too

by Anonymousreply 19911/21/2020

Ted has been a good role model for me!

by Anonymousreply 20011/21/2020

I actually would have expected such a complaint against Trudie before Sting.

by Anonymousreply 20111/21/2020

Fortress Around My Heart

by Anonymousreply 20211/21/2020

Sting is such an asshole and his wife. I’d love to see him go down. Remember the cook that had a lawsuit against them. For treating her so horrible. Especially his wife.

by Anonymousreply 20311/21/2020

Wasn't Trudi on Will and Grace? Or did I dream that?

by Anonymousreply 20411/21/2020

I'm not [9] but an old roommate of mine had been a groupie when she was 15 years old. The most famous band, by far, that she and her friends groupied with, was Duran Duran. They met the band at a club when the band was getting launched in the U.S.

She slept with the drummer. Said he was very nice and very much into literature (like her).

by Anonymousreply 20511/22/2020

R205 That’s pretty cool. I read John Taylor’s book and the drummer, Roger Taylor (no relation) seemed like a nice guy.

by Anonymousreply 20611/22/2020

There goes another [italic]Simpsons[/italic] episode down the memory hole.

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by Anonymousreply 20711/22/2020

Jimmy Page was having sex with underage girls back in the 60's. Groupie Pamela Des Barres wrote a book about the musicians she had sex with back then and that Jimmy Page was having sex with 14 year old girls.

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by Anonymousreply 20811/22/2020

I’ll remember that the next time somebody trashes Michael Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 20911/22/2020

R208 I mentioned none of those girls, Lori Maddox, in a post above. I wonder how it influenced her self esteem and how her life turned out. All of these girls learn their bodies are the only thing they have to offer. That is sad to me.

by Anonymousreply 21011/22/2020

R209 Yes, MJ was so hot in 1983! It would have been an honor to be molested by him! I’d gladly let my kids stay with him!

by Anonymousreply 21111/22/2020

Liv Tyler's mom was a groupie whore...she wrote a book about it. I read it many years ago...

She's a fucking whore folks!

by Anonymousreply 21211/22/2020

I remember groupies in the eighties and they didn’t seem too conflicted about it. I also remember we all took it for granted that men in their twenties and thirties openly lusted after young tweens and that girls were not considered as desirable once they entered their twenties. Actually the grunge age and Courtney Love and the other riot girl bands helped dismantle this slimy mentality and ushered in some more enlightened times. Before, it was a man’s mans world in the rock world.

by Anonymousreply 21311/22/2020

[quote] I’ll remember that the next time somebody trashes Michael Jackson.

There is no comparison. Michael abused children. These teenagers knew very well what they were doing and wanted these guys. I don't think teenage girls are all that much different these days but it's incredibly naive to think teenage girls don't seek out and enjoy sex.

It was certainly unseemly and illegal for these guys but it wasn't any form of child abuse.

by Anonymousreply 21411/22/2020

R213 How do you think a girl feels being told she has nothing to offer in terms of desirability after she’s out of her teens? I don’t think that makes for a healthy woman. But, women should weigh in, of course.

by Anonymousreply 21511/22/2020

[R215] I think it really messes some women up who latch onto that and then it’s gone so quickly. It’s most likely a contributing factor to the choice to get plastic surgery and leads to the saddest cases, such as Madonna. It’s important to raise girls to not center their identities on looks, which is getter even harder in insta ho culture, but I know parents who have succeeded. Being forever young and gorgeous is a hard standard for gay men, too.

by Anonymousreply 21611/22/2020

Weren't there any guy groupies who slept with (male) rockers???!

by Anonymousreply 21711/22/2020

@R208 Back then Jimmy Page was prettier than most of his groupies.

by Anonymousreply 21811/22/2020

Sting is so loaded. Doesn’t he have a house in like every country? Trudie has been showing pictures of their massive Italian country estate during the quarantine. Drinking wine or having their butler serve them food.

by Anonymousreply 21911/22/2020

I wonder if he'll get the Kevin Spacey treatment and gett labeled a pedophile by the media?

Actually of course he won't. That only happens to gay men. Just look at all the comments defending him here on DL of alll places.

by Anonymousreply 22011/22/2020

This sexual assault claim is old enough to have grandchildren.

by Anonymousreply 22111/22/2020

Just think of the reaction if Elton John suddenly got sued for having sex with a minor in 1975. His public image woild be destroyed forever. Heteros can get away with it.

by Anonymousreply 22211/22/2020

R222, heteros can even get away with sleeping with children apparently. Just ask Michael Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 22311/22/2020

R223, While Jackson wasn't hetero, he was able to fool a lot of gullible people into thinking he was which helped him to dispel the allegations for lots and lots of people. Thats true.

If he had taken up with a man instead of Lisa Marie, people would have believed he was a child molester even more.

by Anonymousreply 22411/22/2020

R220 The media has dropped the story for the most part. Agree that had he been gay, it wouldn’t be ignored.

by Anonymousreply 22511/22/2020

R224, absolutely. I hate that man. And I can't stand his psychotic fans.

by Anonymousreply 22611/22/2020

Sting's THE MAN!!!

by Anonymousreply 22711/22/2020

This is not the exact same thing, but I watched a video interview with actor James McAvoy and the host said, "You were a virgin at 16." And James replied, "Was I?" So with some prompting the host got McAvoy to say that he lost his virginity at 13. The host was really floored by this and McAvoy got a bit defensive and explained it away that where he was from had a high teen pregnancy rate. He was happy to brag about losing his virginity at 13, but when he felt criticized he changed direction. I think this happens with some of these teens who have sex with older men. While not legal, it's consensual and at the time they're all for it, but over the years they see the a certain brand of feminism try to portray women as people who can't make up their own minds, just people who are being "groomed" and these women suddenly feel victimized.

by Anonymousreply 22811/22/2020

I’ve really heard anything good about Sting or his wife. Stuck up snooty ass rich people.

by Anonymousreply 22911/22/2020

Iirc, Trudi Styler was a BBF of Sting's 1st wife. Sting wrecked his first family, leaving 1st wife for Styler.

by Anonymousreply 23011/23/2020

Sting is a douche.

by Anonymousreply 23111/23/2020

Sting is a HOT AF douche.

by Anonymousreply 23211/23/2020

She is seeking only $75K???? Whaaaa? Oh honey, if you're going to do a cash grab, you've got to aim for a higher figure!

by Anonymousreply 23311/23/2020

R233 I think it says she is seeking an amount above $75,000.00 but doesn’t specify the amount. I guess they’re negotiating now.

by Anonymousreply 23411/23/2020

I bet she has exactly $75,000 in credit card debt. The low ball number is because she wants to settle out of court and get her bills paid off ASAP.

by Anonymousreply 23511/23/2020

235, I bet you're right. She probably has exactly $75,000 in debt and was brainstorming ways to pay it off.

by Anonymousreply 23611/23/2020

$75K is nothing. You must be poor gays.

by Anonymousreply 23711/23/2020

Again, the amount is NOT $75,000.00. It says it’s an unspecified amount ABOVE $75,000.00.

They are asking for a jury trial. It’s Sting’s lawyers who will want to settle.

by Anonymousreply 23811/23/2020

R181 I don't think it's that difficult to bury this. It was 41 years ago, she was not forced, it's a really hard sell

by Anonymousreply 23911/23/2020

Up until her recent financial difficulties, you all know this was her claim to fame among her friends and acquaintances. It's probably what she always talked about even years later. "Hey, did I ever tell you about the time, that Sting fucked me when I was a virgin....?"

by Anonymousreply 24011/23/2020

If every virgin who bleeds after a deflowering pursued the man responsible, for rape. Well. Well, that would be something.

by Anonymousreply 24111/24/2020

Lawsuits always seems to come the Sumner's way. His insane wife Trudie Styler was sued by their pregnant cook because Trudie had a major meltdown, about the cook calling in sick and her brats needed their SOUP! This happened at their UK home. Trudie also lectured their cook, a married woman who wanted a baby and got pregnant,. Trudie went on that the cook had no business getting pregnant while working for her and Sting! The cook was fired, yet she won her lawsuit against Trudie.

I was a huge Police fan, I saw them when they weren't even known, at CBGBs, The Diplomat Hotel, The Bottom Line and then at larger venues. I must have seen them about 50 times all over the world. My motto is, never worship any celebrity, you will always be setting yourself to be disappointment. I still enjoy their music and Sting's solo work, but I think Sting is a disingenuous asshole, basically a huge fake.

by Anonymousreply 24211/25/2020

Why are no major news sites talking about this? Only Yahoo! ? The dailymail has not mentioned it either...

by Anonymousreply 24311/25/2020

I was surprised the Daily Mail and the NYP haven’t picked it up. It must really be ALL about PR influence. What else could account for the endless Daily Mail stories on non-celebrities Bella Thorne and Emily Ratajowski.

by Anonymousreply 24411/26/2020

" I still enjoy their music and Sting's solo work, but I think Sting is a disingenuous asshole, basically a huge fake."

Of course, he is (and I'm a fan of his work both with The Police and solo). Didn't he once call his family losers (because they were simple people from Newcastle--his father had been a milkman) in "Rolling Stone" after he hit it big? He's always been a tool.

by Anonymousreply 24511/26/2020

R245 I like a lot of the Police’s work but Sting and Andy Summers always kind of...I don’t know. Not a good feeling about either.

I don’t like much Sting’s solo work and I was surprised that I didn’t, since he wrote all The Police stuff. His first two solo albums are OK. The one song of his I really like is All This Time.

by Anonymousreply 24611/26/2020

[quote]Of course, he is (and I'm a fan of his work both with The Police and solo). Didn't he once call his family losers (because they were simple people from Newcastle--his father had been a milkman) in "Rolling Stone" after he hit it big? He's always been a tool.

IIRC, when either one, or both, of his parents died, Sting didn't attend their funerals. He was either on tour, in the middle of recording an album or 'too busy". Both parents died fairly young, think they both died of cance. The mom was in her 50s when she died. His mom was hairdresser who became a nurse. Yes, his dad was a milkman, who ended up owning the small milk distribution company, he wasn't exactly a loser.

Sting talked about not getting along with his father. The father was obviously quite jealous that one of his four children made it out of Newcastle, had talent and became very famous. Most parents would be extremely proud of their child who accomplished so much, especially while still in their 20s, but Sting's father remained bitter and jealous until he died. He told Sting, what Sting was doing wasn't "real work", that Sting had the "hands of a laborer not a musician."

Sting's mother cheated on the father. Sting heard the mother having sex with some other man. The dad sounded like a real piece of work. Sting has a brother and two sisters, I don't remember what they do for living.

Sting met his ex wife, Irish actress, Frances Tomelty, while she was in a touring company, he was playing in the house band of a Newcastle theater. Pretty sure he saw Frances as a way out of Newcastle. I don't remember the time frame when Stewart Copeland discovered Sting. Sting needs to thank Frances and Stewart for getting him out of Newcastle.

Frances is three years older than Sting, he's 69. Trudie Styler and Frances were best friends, they were both in The Royal Shakespeare Company together. Trudie set her eyes on Sting and went in for the kill. Trudie even went as far as moving next door to Sting and Frances when they lived in London! I've never heard one good thing about Trudie, she's rude and thinks she from royalty, meanwhile she grew up in home with an outhouse! A close friend's friend was a publicist for The Police and Sting when he went solo, I've got lots of stories!

by Anonymousreply 24711/26/2020

More info about Frances and Sting:

"On 1 May 1976, Tomelty married musician Gordon "Sting" Sumner – best known as the lead singer and bassist for the rock band The Police – after knowing him for two years. They met on the set of a rock-musical called Rock Nativity. She played the Virgin Mary; he played in the band.

They have two children together, Joseph (born 23 November 1976) and Fuchsia Katherine ("Kate") (born 17 April 1982). Sumner left Tomelty for his current wife Trudie Styler, and the couple divorced in 1984.

The split was controversial; as The Independent reported in 2006, "The problem was, he was already married – to actress Frances Tomelty, who just happened to be Trudie's best friend (Sting and Frances lived next door to Trudie in Bayswater, west London, for several years before the two of them became lovers). The affair was widely condemned – not least because it coincided with the break-up of the Police."

The publicist told my friend, Trudie was the person who made sure to find an apartment next door to Sting and Trudie. I found this out years before there was any mention of Sting cheating on Frances with Trudie. That has to be the ultimate betrayal, a partner cheating on you with your best friend.

Despite her face being mauled due to truck running her over as toddler, or as a small child, Trudie used to be cute. As a child, Trudie had many facial surgeries to correct her deformed face, which makes it all the more odd that as an adult she's had some incredibly bad plastic surgery! There was no need for a nose job, her nose looked fine.

Here's young Trudie and Sting, with his original nose. Sting had two nose jobs.

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by Anonymousreply 24811/26/2020

[quote] Frances Tomelty

Her father, Joseph, appeared in lots of movies specialising as Irish drunkards.

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by Anonymousreply 24911/26/2020

R248 Neither Styler nor Sting looked better after their nose jobs. If you look at pictures of their daughters, you can see their parents’ old noses: Mickey Sumner has her mother’s nose and Eliot Sumner her father’s. Eliot has the worst case of resting bitch face I’ve ever seen. Trudie Styler was lovely when young, but the all the plastic surgery gives her that “burn victim” look, as someone described the Goo Goo Dolls singer in another thread.

I knew someone who knew someone (lol) who also did some kind of work for Sting and he reported that Sting cheated on her all the time, and got angry at all the money she spends on expensive clothes (and her taste is pretty hideous). He said Sting just wanted to sit around stoned, playing his guitar all day.

by Anonymousreply 25011/26/2020

I think his name is adolescent

John Cougar shed his childish name when he grew up.

by Anonymousreply 25111/26/2020

I’m surprised Sting has not left her. I heard for years that they had screaming matches at their homes. I think that’s probably why he is always on the road. Also he has a thing about not wearing deodorant. Howard Stern once said that they had to air out the office after they had an interview with him.

by Anonymousreply 25211/26/2020

So wife #1's BFF pursued Sting and married him. It happens.

by Anonymousreply 25311/26/2020

[quote]I knew someone who knew someone (lol) who also did some kind of work for Sting and he reported that Sting cheated on her all the time, and got angry at all the money she spends on expensive clothes (and her taste is pretty hideous). He said Sting just wanted to sit around stoned, playing his guitar all day.

The tea is Trudie is actually bisexual, but she prefers women. She's hit on many of Sting's touring band members wives and GFs! Years ago, one of Sting's band was staying at their Central Park West apartment with his fiancee. Trudie was relentless, rubbing up against the musician's fiancee, the woman was very adamant she wasn't interested in having sex with Trudie or Sting. The musician and his GF ended up leaving to stay at the Plaza Hotel.

The late Ian Copeland was a very decent man. Years ago, I called him for photo passes for a friend who was a brilliant music photographer but needed a foot in the door to get their photos seen. I explained the friend already had great seats to a Police show, but needed a photo pass in case the hired security asked him to to stop taking photos. Ian was very accommodating, he gave me four press passes for both Police concerts, for me and my friend. The photos turned out great.

by Anonymousreply 25411/26/2020

Eliot Sumner is a lesbian. She looks exactly like Sting.

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by Anonymousreply 25511/26/2020

Eliot is gender fluid. "They" is the pronoun used for them, on wiki. They is a progressive musician of some kind and they looks intolerable.

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by Anonymousreply 25611/26/2020

R256 They have a good voice but they ape Sting when singing by scowling, looking up at ceiling, and using a Jamaican accent just as he used to do, so they come off looking like a Sting impersonator. They should develop their own style of performing.

by Anonymousreply 257Last Friday at 3:21 AM

Why did Sting even get a nose job to begin with? In that pic with his original nose, there's nothing wrong with it!

Didn't Sting have a penchant for strip clubs? I think he might even have admitted to a strong affinity for them once in an interview, saying he loved looking at nude women.

Well, he and all the other straight men in the world!

Trudie looks disfigured from all of her plastic surgery. She was very cute in that old shot with Sting (with his original nose).

What became of Frances Tomelty? Did she remarry?

by Anonymousreply 258Last Friday at 3:31 AM

Didn't Ian Copeland date his cousin Courtney Cox?

by Anonymousreply 259Last Friday at 3:32 AM

I always wondered what Styler’s acting career never took off. She was pretty, blonde and had the best connections possible. I’ve seen Sting is a couple of movies but never her.

by Anonymousreply 260Last Friday at 3:40 AM

yes, there were rumors that they were swingers for a phase...they both went to strip clubs together in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 261Last Friday at 4:09 AM

I remember reading an old blind item about a recurring threesome involving Sting, Trudie and Rachel Weisz.

by Anonymousreply 262Last Friday at 4:19 AM

My sister was really wild in her youth, she was flat out boy crazy. Years later a friend of hers said "Well I let boys do stuff because I felt unloved and had low self esteem". My sister crowed "I just liked fuckng hot guys" and her goody two shoes friend admitted that she did too.

It's like girls don't have a sex drive, they're shame filled little victims which is true in some cases but not all. I had two friends in junior high who were absolutely predatory about certain older guys. One finally fucked our hot art teacher, of course his wife and my friend were victims. She told me how she worked on him for months before she nailed him. Someone asked her if she loved him and she said I loved his body. She was 15.

by Anonymousreply 263Last Friday at 4:43 AM

R263 Teen girls aren’t all the same, just as boys aren’t. Some are more sophisticated and worldly than others. Even boys could tell which teen girls in our class were sexually actively or just comfortable with their sexuality.

The woman accusing Sting was a virgin so probably not very sexually active. If you watch the clip of her above, she seems very awkward. I can see her going along with something she wasn’t really comfortable with just to avoid saying no, and feeling lousy about it later. Sting as a 27 year old experienced man who had taught teenagers previously should have recognized this reticence. I suggest he did, but didn’t care.

by Anonymousreply 264Last Friday at 5:23 AM

[quote]Eliot is gender fluid. They have a good voice but they ape Sting when singing by scowling, looking up at ceiling, and using a Jamaican accent just as he used to do, so they come off looking like a Sting impersonator. They should develop their own style of performing.

Gender fluid, huh? So why is Eliot, formerly Coco, Sumner always hanging off some woman? A few years ago, she was involved with two famous models. I reckon she's gay not bi.

She plays bass like her father and sings, she has a pretty good voice. I have some of her music. The music I have by Eliot, she's not singing in a Jamaican accent. Besides, looking like her father, to me she looks like Sting's bass idol, the late jazz bassist, Jaco Pastorious. Actually, when Sting was young, and pre-nose jobs, he looked a lot like Jaco.

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by Anonymousreply 265Last Friday at 10:49 AM

Both Trudie and Frances Tomelty get small roles here and there. The last series I saw Trudie in was "The Night Of", she played a rich Manhattan woman who had been married to the step-father of the murdered woman. Her character did some heavy flirting with John Turturro's lawyer character. In her brief appearance, she was pretty good, she was very funny.

Frances still works as an actress, she's been on many UK mystery and cop series, the types shown on PBS and Ovation. I recently saw her on "Death in Paradise" and "Unforgotten".

I heard Frances didn't get such a great divorce settlement from Sting. Typically, the second wife reaps the rewards of marrying a rich man. Frances and Sting were fairly poor, I heard they slept on the floor when they were first married!

Their eldest son Joe is also a musician. He's 44 and married with a few kids.

His sister Fuschia is an actress, she looks like Frances.

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by Anonymousreply 266Last Friday at 12:01 PM

Fucshia? That's the daughter's name?

Was Frances a hippie? She named her daughter after a color?

by Anonymousreply 267Last Saturday at 8:27 AM

never liked him .. smarmy fuk

by Anonymousreply 268Last Saturday at 9:43 AM

[quote]Fucshia? That's the daughter's name? Was Frances a hippie? She named her daughter after a color?

No, Sting named his daughter Fuchsia, she was named after a character in one of Sting's favorite trilogies, Mervyn Peake's "Gormenghast", which Sting hoped to star in as Steerpike, the kitchen boy who schemes to control the household of his wealthy employees. In 1984, BBC Radio 4 broadcast two 90-minute plays based on Titus Groan and Gormenghast, two novels in the trilogy. The broadcast starred Sting as Steerpike, Jill Lidstone as Fuchsia, Elenor Bron as Gertrude and Freddie Jones as The Artist.

By the time Sting was able to get around playing the title character on film, he was too old. In 2000, there was a series starring Jonathan Rhys Meyers, in the US, the series was shown on PBS. Currently, Neil Gaiman is supposedly working on yet another adaptation. Gormenghast should appeal to GOT fans.

by Anonymousreply 269Last Saturday at 12:33 PM

I was a teenager in the 60's. Trying to bag a rock star was normal behavior for 15 year olds and above. I had a friend who looked 20 at 14 and was already having sex. She was a teen model very pretty. She looked like a young Barbi Benton. We went to a club that Mick Jagger was at. He hit on my 14 year old friend and she turned him down (she didn't like Jagger) but I offered and he said your too young. I was and looked 15. I always wished even to this day that I could have had Mick Jagger. The bragging rights alone would have been worth it. I was old for my age and also already having sex. At 17 I had an affair with a 40 year old because the boys my age were immature and didn't know what they were doing. everyone I dated was older than me although most of them were not more than 5 years older. I grew up in LA and came from an non-religious family.

by Anonymousreply 270Last Saturday at 12:59 PM

^^^You're

by Anonymousreply 271Last Saturday at 1:01 PM

[quote]I was a teenager in the 60's. Trying to bag a rock star was normal behavior for 15 year olds and above. I had a friend who looked 20 at 14 and was already having sex. She was a teen model very pretty. She looked like a young Barbi Benton. We went to a club that Mick Jagger was at. He hit on my 14 year old friend and she turned him down (she didn't like Jagger) but I offered and he said your too young. I was and looked 15. I always wished even to this day that I could have had Mick Jagger. The bragging rights alone would have been worth it. I was old for my age and also already having sex. At 17 I had an affair with a 40 year old because the boys my age were immature and didn't know what they were doing. everyone I dated was older than me although most of them were not more than 5 years older. I grew up in LA and came from an non-religious family.

This is 100% true, young teen females were randomly fucking back them.

A friend's older sister was around 15-16 during the Max's Kansas City heyday in the early to mid-1970s in Manhattan. She was never asked for her ID at this and other clubs. She looked older.

This young woman started dating at 14 and had long lost her virginity by the time she was hanging at Max's. As a teen, she was meeting people like Lou Reed, the Warhol crowd, Mapplethorpe, Patti Smith and lots of local NYC bands who were starting out at the time. She dated a guy whose band included the original Ramones drummer, Tommy E. This woman always talks about writing a book about her NYC escapes, so far, nothing. She claims she was never actually a groupie, because she dated these musicians "long term". I didn't know her well enough to argue, but her sister thought she was completely nuts. She's lucky to be alive. Back then no one used condoms and AIDs was on the horizon. She was on the Pill, that was it. She claimed to have never gotten pregnant.

I also knew a few groupies who fucked Led Zeppelin, then again, who didn't fuck those guys?!! They'd fuck any slag who moved. I'm surprised the three remaining Zep members are still alive, besides the unprotected sex, Jimmy Page was a hardcore junkie for many years. One of their groupies died of AIDs! She was a tall sophisticated looking woman, she could have been a model. This groupie didn't look trashy like Sable Starr and Lori Maddox, they were disgusting. They both looked like little girls playing dress up. Maddox actually looked like a drag queen, like a teenage boy in drag. Sable Starr in particular looked homeless. No class or style whatsover. At least super groupie Pamela des Barres was always attractive, she never looked trashy.

by Anonymousreply 272Last Saturday at 1:51 PM

Lori Maddox in her groupie heyday was Heidi Klum next to that hideous troll in Arkansas who I think STILL groupies (or tries to) and she's in her 60s. I forgot her name. Howard Stern interviewed her and asked her how she felt about being used. She was fine with it.

by Anonymousreply 273Last Saturday at 2:14 PM

R273, are you talking bout Sweet Connie, the BJ Queen, the one immortalized in that Grand Funk Railroad song? I recall a VH-1 interview with her years ago, it's wonder she's still alive. I guess she's on welfare? She has no discernible skills, just sex.

Her name was Connie Hamzy. She looks completely awful now, she's in her 60s, but looks like a sickly 80 year old.

Connie was actually cute when she was young. Lori Maddox always looked like a clown. Those silly 'Glitter Rock' get ups, her flat shapeless boyish body and that stupid 'duh' expression on her face, with those huge teeth. Her teeth were so big, she couldn't close her mouth.

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by Anonymousreply 274Last Saturday at 2:40 PM

Yes, that's who I was referring to. Connie Hamzy.

OMG. Is that photo her? Wow. Aging is clearly not her best friend.

by Anonymousreply 275Last Saturday at 2:46 PM

R272 I wasn't a groupie. I had a massive crush on Mick Jagger and that would have been like bagging the elephant. I lived in Laurel Canyon from 1967 until 1970 with some hippies and I rubbed shoulders with all the local talent at the country store during those years and never had an inclination to have sex with any of them. The doors and several Southern california groups were living there at the time.

by Anonymousreply 276Last Saturday at 2:50 PM

Lori wasn't cute at all, when the male rocker is 100% prettier than the groupie...well...

Years down the line, Lori got a nose job. Not sure what her ethnic background was. I know she's American, think she was of Hispanic or Italian descent. In this photo with Page, she looks like a young Hispanic boy with long hair. I've always wondered if Page was bisexual, because I never understood why most of his groupies didn't look like women, they resembled young teen boys in drag, especially Lori. Lori also had rep of being incurably stupid. I don't even think she finished high school. In an interview she mentioned being too distracted by her "relationship" with Page to go to school!

Not sure if Maddox was even her real last name. All those young LA groupies were totally uninteresting, how can a 14-16 old be interesting?

Sable Starr came from a rich family, she was ignored by her rich parents, they basically threw money at her and allowed her to be a groupie. Sable died of brain cancer.

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by Anonymousreply 277Last Saturday at 2:52 PM

[quote][R272] I wasn't a groupie.

I never said you were a groupie, I agreed that very young teen girls were having sex back then. Whether it be with musicians or with their BFs, lots of young teen girls were having sex back then. There didn't seem to be a stigma about having sex while in their early teens.

by Anonymousreply 278Last Saturday at 2:54 PM

Connie Hamzy a few years ago. Sad.

She might have actually been in her 50s when this photo was taken.

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by Anonymousreply 279Last Saturday at 2:58 PM

R279. Wow, that is revolting.

by Anonymousreply 280Last Saturday at 3:21 PM

R278 I didn't think you were accusing me of being a groupie. I'm sorry for not making myself clearer. You're right though. Young women were having a lot of sex. Especially in the 60's with our motto being sex, drugs and rock and roll. But I also think the early boomers were less thin skinned and less anxious and less emotional about sex. Our WW2 parents were always kicking us out of the house and imploring us to go outside and play. We had to fight our own battles and work things out ourselves. I think by the time we were teenagers we were more mature than our counterparts today who are much more sheltered.

by Anonymousreply 281Last Saturday at 6:44 PM

R279 Connie Hamzy was born in 1955 so she is mostly likely in her mid 60's in that pic if it is recent. She looks old for being in mid 60's though. I am almost exactly 5 years older and am 70 and still don't look that old.

by Anonymousreply 282Last Saturday at 7:06 PM

I just double-checked, that 'current' photo of Connie Hamzy I linked was from a 2016 Daily Mail article. Connie in now 65.

Not sure what's going on with her lower legs. Is she a junkie? Those odd bumps look like sores from shooting up or she's a crack or meth head.

Whatever she is, she's disgusting. What a sad pathetic life this woman has led, she's as bad as a washed-up drug addicted porn actress. On the VH-1 interview I saw years ago, she looked homeless and her filthy house looked like a crack den.

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by Anonymousreply 283Last Saturday at 8:08 PM

"Her ‘conquests’ include big names like John Bonham, Keith Moon, Richard Carpenter, Mick Fleetwood, Alice Cooper, Huey Lewis, Doc Severinsen, Waylon Jennings, Rick Springfield, Glenn Frey, and Don Henley."

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by Anonymousreply 284Last Saturday at 10:54 PM

My mother is 81 and looks a hundred times better than Connie. Honestly, I know many people around Connie's age (I'm in my late 50s) and NONE of us look as bad as Connie. Has she battled an illness? Does she have an addiction (other than groupie sex)? Yes, I know the aging process takes a toll on all of us but NOBODY should look like that in your mid-60s unless there are extenuating circumstances.

by Anonymousreply 285Last Sunday at 4:21 AM

Those do look like track marks on her legs. The legs are the worst place to shoot up in, it's basically the location of last resort.

I think if she ate properly and stayed out of the sun she'd look 100% better. She really was a stunner when she was young.

by Anonymousreply 286Last Sunday at 11:26 AM

Did Connie fuck all these rockers or was she the Blow Job Queen as many claim?

by Anonymousreply 287Last Sunday at 11:33 AM

All those men raped girls unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 288Last Sunday at 11:36 AM

"She was very sophisticated compared to probably 99.9 percent of teens of that era though."

I wouldn't call Pamela Des Barres "sophisticated." Dimwitted, definitely. Easy, certainly. But I don't see the silly, goony Pamela Des Barres as a sophisticate.

In her book she claimed that she lost her virginity at the seemingly late age of 19, but said that was still "too early. " She was giving blowjobs to musicians long before that. In fact, she said she became "very popular indeed" due to her fondness for fellatio. She said that "free, peace loving" girls like her were called "loose" but all she wanted to do was show her appreciation for their musical gifts. I always wanted to ask her; "couldn't you think of some other way to express your admiration for their talent besides sucking their penises?"

by Anonymousreply 289Last Sunday at 11:42 AM

[quote]I wouldn't call Pamela Des Barres "sophisticated." Dimwitted, definitely. Easy, certainly. But I don't see the silly, goony Pamela Des Barres as a sophisticate.

Pamela might have not been sophisticated, but she was was 100% better looking than those Rodney's English Disco underage groupie slags, Sable Starr and Lori Maddox.

Here's a photo taken during the years Pam was married to actor Michael Des Barres.

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by Anonymousreply 290Last Tuesday at 2:34 AM

I'm 27 now, and I would be mortified and disgusted to find out I was in bed with someone that young. Even17-18 is too young imo.

And my parents would have lost their damn minds if they even suspected I was having sex at age 15 or younger. Must be a generational thing. The sixties and seventies sound like a scary time of lost innocence, in a way. But then, my generation could download and view porn at age ten, so it's snakes and roundabouts.

by Anonymousreply 291Last Tuesday at 2:59 AM
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