ELECTION 2020 part 10

Arizona to Biden? I'm nervous....

1 million votes yet to be counted in Philly.

Link to part 9:

I can’t breathe

Well even though we are suffering through this long wait, remember Trump is suffering the most. His poor ol’ heart may not be able to handle the stress....

Bringing this over from the last thread - from last night, but I guess it's mostly still where we're at this morning:

@Taniel: What we know, 3:00am EST 11/5.

Biden needs 17 EVs out of NV (6), AZ (11), GA (16), PA (20), (NC 15)

—NV: up 6K: more tmrw.

—AZ: up 68K. To offset Pima/Cococino, Trump will need more than he got today in Maricopa.

—GA: down 22K. 10s of 1000s mail left. Tight.

—PA: down 164K. 100s of 1000s mail left.

Most of the PA votes left are urban. Joe's got this. NV is going to Joe too it's just going to be a slog.

Take care of yourself. Turn the damn tv off.

R5 Two years tops till Trump is dead.

R7 Zona will be called for Biden first.

Donny

Wonder if Michelle Obama will show up at Trump's funeral with a wooden stake.

. Dump will contest every mail in ballot in all these states. He wants this to go to HIS Supremes. WTF do you think the last two months were about?

Remembering who to blame:

@PaulBlu · 23m Had Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin been able to count absentee ballots ahead of time this election would have been over at like 11pm on Tuesday. Republicans in those state legislatures made this happen on purpose.

Also, fresh shit coming from the Drumpster:

Political Polls @PpollingNumbers · 12m JUST IN: Trump campaign set to make a “major announcement” in Las Vegas at 11:30 ET/ 8:30 PT

He can contest all he wants, but once Joe hits 270 I expect the Biden campaign will declare victory and start moving toward inauguration day. Trump's going to look even more petty and deranged. If Biden looses GA he can contest there and keep the GOP fuckers busy.

Also, a new administration is more interesting than complex boring recounts and I expect the media will shift coverage toward how the transition is going to work and what Dump will do as a lame duck.

Suspect NV is going to release a batch of votes that favor Trump and they'll declare victory, ignoring the urban votes left to be counted.

Remember Hills won NV by a decent margin.

A look at Nevada.

Stud Ossoff - Perdue is at 50.0%. Anything less and there's going to be a runoff in January.

They will just announce another lawsuit in NV. Nothing to see there. So they will contest all remaining states in court MI, PA, AZ, NV, GA, and WI.

This is incredibly, incredibly nerve-racking.

PLEASE let Biden declare victory by the end of the day.

Going by what the NYT is saying, we should know by tomorrow morning. It's going to be a nail-biter though, and the Rethugs are going to whine and fuss every step of the way. Trump will not go gently into that good night.

Nevada should wait and release all the votes at once. We need definitive answers not more meat for trump to hang onto if the rural counties in NV come first and he takes the lead.

R19 - CNN is reporting that Biden will be making an appearance sometime today.

[quote]PLEASE let Biden declare victory by the end of the day.

I imagine he will wait until his victory is ensured.

Please hurry

Arizona was called two days ago by both the AP and Fox, R9. Arizona is in Biden’s column. AP calls the election and has for nearly two hundred years.

Politico's current overview of PA.

Biden might win GA, which would be wonderful. NC won’t be called until next week. I haven’t heard much out of them.

R27 - Joe could win Pennsylvania too.

Richard Fausset, in Atlanta 7m ago

Gabriel Sterling, Georgia’s statewide voting system implementation manager, said that 61,367 outstanding mail-in absentee ballots remained uncounted. The state aims to finish its count by noon.

Will be interesting to see what happens if NV gets called for Biden later. That would put him at 270 with the AP and Fox but none of the other networks have called AZ so they wouldn’t have Biden at 270. What a mess.

Which way will the "absentee ballots" skew ,Trump or Biden?

I don’t think there’s any “could” about that one, R28. He needs to get as many votes over 270 as possible. I don’t like that it’s this close.

This is getting painful. How can it take so long to count tens of thousands of ballots when they were able to release a few million soon after the polls closed?

Relax about Nevada.

Let’s be grateful for mail in ballots. They couldn’t be hacked by the Russians.

The republicans blocked the ability to count mail in ballots before Election Day in PA, WI, and MI. If they hadn’t then we would have known Tuesday night that Biden won. This chaos was by design.

Biden just took the lead by 1.0% in Bucks Co., PA (Clinton +0.8% in 2016) with plenty of ballots left to count there that should push his lead considerably higher.

Already the walking cadaver is trying to pull shit.

[quote] Biden just took the lead by 1.0% in Bucks Co., PA

The Bucks yard sign troll is probably hanging from a noose in his dining room right now.

Philly is mostly a Democratic city. There's over a million mail in's that need to be counted. From what I gather, mail in's and drop offs came from the majority of older folks.

My only concern with AZ is that there was some kind of major reporting error on the first day, which may have affected AP's call. But it still looks like it's going to go Biden, if only just barely.

[quote]Wonder if Michelle Obama will show up at Trump's funeral with a wooden stake.

If she doesn't, I will.

r22 link? (I don't doubt you, just curious)

AP would have retracted their AZ call if they didn’t feel confident about it.

CNN reporting 450k uncounted voted in Arizona. JFC this will never end.

I hope the second Biden takes the lead in PA they call it and with it the election. We could know today.

I would rather wait for Biden to announce until there is absolute certainty - ideally with PA counted. Or at least PA at 95%+ with mostly urban/suburban mail in votes left.

[quote]He can contest all he wants, but once Joe hits 270 I expect the Biden campaign will declare victory and start moving toward inauguration day.

Then the NY AG indicts the Trump Organization and the Trump family for bank fraud, wire fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, insurance fraud. There is a sword of Damocles currently being held above their heads and they know it.

FiveThirtyEight @FiveThirtyEight 24m Another 20,000 or so votes have come in from Philadelphia, with 92% for Biden. And about 9,000 votes from Montgomery County are in with 73% for Biden.

This has cut Trump’s statewide advantage in Pennsylvania from 2.6 percentage points to 2.3 points.

AP has the percentage for PA at 2.1% currently.

r41 the population of Philadelphia County is around 1,500,000.

How in the world have "1,000,000" mail-in ballots not been counted??

Please, please let it be over. I will deal with who ever wins. I don't even care.

Trump can sue all he wants but he has no legal reason to do so. In order to sue there has to be something wrong. There’s nothing wrong. That’s why his “star attorney” is Rudy Guilianni.

There's 100,000 in Philadelphia

PA margin: 136,000 for Trump.

[quote] 1 million votes yet to be counted in Philly.

F*cking ridiculous! The Republican legislature in PA -- who ruled that counting couldnt start until election day -- should be voted OUT

[quote]How can it take so long to count tens of thousands of ballots when they were able to release a few million soon after the polls closed?

Mail in ballots have to have the signatures verified.

Jesus fucking christ those states still counting two days later, pathetic

Yeah, the Trump argument so far, is stop counting votes so I don't lose. Meanwhile in AZ, it's keep counting so I don't lose. I'm sure these legal arguments will go over well with the courts. Of course, we know they will be gangbuster popular with the Supreme Court.

GEOFFREY SKELLEY

NOV. 5, 9:23 AM

It looks like another 20,000 or so votes have come in from Philadelphia, and they broke 92 percent for Biden. Along with about 9,000 votes from deep-blue Montgomery County that broke 73 percent for Biden, this cut Trump’s statewide advantage from 2.6 percentage points to 2.3 points. It might seem wild that the Philadelphia tranche of votes could be that Democratic, but look at this way: Philadelphia usually votes around 80 percent (or a little higher) for Democratic presidential candidates. Clinton, for example, won 82 percent of the county’s votes in 2016. Right now, Biden is at about 80 percent in Philadelphia. But we also know that voters who used mail-in ballots were more likely to be Democrats, so you’re talking about the most Democratic votes out of a strongly Democratic-leaning pool of voters.

They really need to hurry up. If we have to wait until tomorrow I’m not sure we can take it. Things are starting to fall apart

[quote]Yeah, the Trump argument so far, is stop counting votes so I don't lose. Meanwhile in AZ, it's keep counting so I don't lose. I'm sure these legal arguments will go over well with the courts. Of course, we know they will be gangbuster popular with the Supreme Court.

To use Trump language... Trump is a low IQ individual.

It's excruciating, but they're probably counting with great care & with a lot of supervision, so I guess the delay shouldn't be a surprise.

Though PA should maybe rethink their "start your homework the day it's due" approach to voting

CLARE MALONE

NOV. 5, 9:50 AM

The president has been tweeting more this morning about wanting to “stop” the (legitimate, of course) vote count. Apparently, what Trump means, according to his campaign, is that they want to stop the count until the Trump campaign can monitor it (again, as we’ve said before, there is no proof of fraud.) The specific rules for partisans observing the vote-counting process vary from state to state and the National Council of State Legislatures has a handy guide for those rules. But take for instance, Pennsylvania, which is a pretty big prize today. “Partisan observers are permitted to be present when absentee and mail-in ballot envelopes are opened, and when the ballots are counted and recorded,” the NCSL writes. In Arizona, “Partisan observers are authorized to observe processing at the county recorder’s office.” In Nevada, “Members of the general public may observe the preparation of absentee ballots at central counting boards.” So, it’s unclear why the Trump campaign would argue that these vote counts would need to be stopped so they can observe them; they’re already allowed to observe.

“So, it’s unclear why the Trump campaign would argue that these vote counts would need to be stopped so they can observe them; they’re already allowed to observe.”

And they still play footsie with him. When the fuck are they going to acknowledge that Trump has nothing left but flinging feces? He’s creating confusion so he can complain about the confusion. For fucks sake, JUST SAY IT.

(STUD OSSOFF ANALYSIS)

AARON BYCOFFE

NOV. 5, 10:12 AM

A handful of votes just trickled in for Georgia’s regularly scheduled Senate election, where the race will go to a runoff if no candidate gets more than 50 percent of the vote. The Republican in the race, incumbent Sen. David Perdue, is clinging to an outright victory by fewer than 2,000 votes, and as more absentee ballots are counted it’s likely he’ll drop below that mark. The special election for Georgia’s other Senate seat is also going to a runoff. If Democrat Mark Kelly hangs on to win in Arizona, and the Republican candidates keep their leads in North Carolina and Alaska, the Senate outlook would be 50-48 going into the two Georgia runoffs, and their outcomes would determine which party would control the chamber — a Republican win in either one would give the GOP control. (If the Senate is ultimately 50-50, the vice president would break ties.)

LOL at PA GOP legislature making Trump wait, wait, and wait . . .

They really are like Wile E. Coyote.

The fact that the Rs will hold the senate (very, very likely) makes me think trump won’t have much support in trying to steal the election. Biden won’t be able to do anything substantial and the Rs could take back the house in 2022. So: who cares if trump loses? In fact I’d bet that a lot of senate republicans are hoping he does. They love being the opposition party.

NATHANIEL RAKICH

NOV. 5, 10:15 AM

The Georgia secretary of state keeps revising the estimate of the number of absentee ballots remaining: The latest word is 61,367. That means Biden has to win at least 65 percent of them in order to take the lead.

Nice hair-do!

The NYtimes estimates there should be at least 500k votes still to count in PA, and acknowledges that is a conservative estimate.

Given what we know, they feel Biden is on track to win the state. Same as what they said yesterday.

I wish a network had the balls to call PA for Biden right now. We all know where it’s going.

These Penn projections are getting my hope too high. Trying to imagine and accept Trump winning now so it isnt so disappointing when it happens.

Upcoming trump campaign press conference in PA. They’re teasing a “legal victory”

It begins....

R74, kind of same here. Because of 2016 PTSD.

I wish he’d just keel over. Surely he’s disgusting and unhealthy enough to be on the edge of death.

R64 Republican state legislatures in these key states determined when the counting of mail-in votes could take place. We’re in this situation by design.

AZ says it processes 6 -8k ballots an hour. They hope to have a final tally tonight 7pm

[quote]I wish he’d just keel over. Surely he’s disgusting and unhealthy enough to be on the edge of death.

Mitch should stroke him with the Awesome and Amazing Rotting Hand of Death.

Biden needs Arizona and Nevada. We all need Arizona and Nevada. I'm getting ready to offer my soul up to the first bidder in exchange for those 2 states...

6-8k a hour in Arizona R79! That's far too slow. Not good enough. They should be working around the clock with numbers so low. Are there 3 counters? In 2020?

I think we have a better shot of winning GA than we do AZ.

Why haven't they called Alaska yet? It'll be red per usual. Did they forget about it? Does no one care about this state? lol

Nevada could be messy for awhile. The rural counties could come in first which could potentially give trump the lead. And then Vegas comes in which will for sure go Biden.

Expect a trump lawsuit there the second votes are released.

Trump just looks deranged. Suing in multiple states for absolutely no reason. This is not Bush v Gore.

Is Arizona really going to be that close?

Are all the MARY!!!!!! Arizona posts justified?

[quote]Why haven't they called Alaska yet? It'll be red per usual. Did they forget about it? Does no one care about this state? lol

Do you see how the answer to your questions is actually embedded within your question itself r83?

[quote] Does no one care about this state?

Hardly anyone lives there and it always votes red, so not really. I don’t know why they don’t just call it, though. It’s weird for it to just be hanging out there.

[quote] I think we have a better shot of winning GA than we do AZ.

Bless your heart.

I'd love to see Biden end up with over 300 electoral votes--a truly decisive victory.

Of course, I'd also like a million dollars. At this point, I'll take 270 gratefully.

Associated Press called Arizona, they aren't clueless.

When all is finished I expect Biden to have won the state, it might narrow but a win is a win.

More importantly, I don't think it matters whether Biden wins Arizona or Nevada. He is still on track to win the Presidency once everything is finally counted in PA.

AP is holding firm on their AZ call. They’ve been doing this for 200 years. They have access to way more data that anyone on twitter does. Biden will win AZ.

R86, AZ and NV. Mary! posts are indeed justified. It's too close.

R91 I’m all in on PA because it gets us to the win even if AZ falls away.

Ossoff hasn’t formally conceded, has he?

They’re taking a DAY OFF? what the ever loving fuck?

Why is everything dramatic in America? Why is it that everything is dragged out and/or catastrophic?

I wish I lived somewhere mellow.

R95, no, he hasn't.

The Republican legislature pushed back counting just so Trump could play his games after the election and delegitimize the process. If they had let the votes be counted in advance, there would have been a decisive clear victory and less room for Trump to play games

CNN is so obviously boosting Biden (as am I so don’t attack) that it’s comical, if not quite Foxian. .

It's another things Dems in state houses need to fight for: preprocessing of mail-in ballots.

R95, why would he? This will very likely go into run off according to Steve Kornacki.

We need AZ and NV as insurance policies against Trump's legal challenges. You never know what the SC will do in regards to PA.

Dumps got a 0.4 lead with 96% counted in GA R82. Or are you joking? I'm so tired I can't tell anymore.

WTF - taking the day off R96? They're just taking the piss now. They must be Datalounge trolls in their spare time.

[quote] 450k uncounted voted in Arizona

I step away for an hour and this happens.

Do they have a team of four drowsy volunteers doing the counting or what?

R103 that's correct re GA.

The Fox News site has called a Senate seat for another Dem -- now 48 to 48. Who? I don't see this tally elsewhere.

2020: the year of the worst case scenario.

[quote] The Fox News site has called a Senate seat for another Dem -- now 48 to 48. Who? I don't see this tally elsewhere.

Maybe Gary Peters in Michigan? There are four remaining seats to be decided. The two in Georgia, Cal vs. Thom in North Carolina and the Alaska seat which will likely go Republican.

The Senate is not as lost for Dems YET

I just want this to end because I can't under-sleep another night. And ostensibly, I'm "working" from home.

But for those who are crapping on how slow these states are counting. First it's the year of the Covid. Second, other states haven't finished counting either. It's just that they were called early so no one gives a crap. You think California has finished counting?

R106, NY Times is the same. Kelly, AZ.

Relax, R101, I was asking, that’s all. Sara Gideon conceded. I didn’t know if Ossoff might have done on election night when the gap was wider. Calm down and give your taint a little wipe.

Just for a bit of a laugh and some light relief check this hilarious Twitter conversation about what to do with a Trumpster who has threatened to leave the US and go and live in Mexico.

It's worth it!

This is election interference at this point. They are blatantly delaying the count because they know Biden won. Other countries are watching in awe as they don’t have this problem.

LOL Robby Mook is the president of the PAC responsible for getting house dems elected. What an incompetent fuck.

NOV. 5, 10:33 AM

One thing to consider when evaluating how the polls did this year is that some states may have a lot of provisional ballots. Those could be especially Democratic in states where the provisionals consist mostly of people who intended to vote by mail but decided to vote in-person instead because of concerns about whether their ballots would be counted on time. Nate Cohn over at The New York Times estimates that provisionals alone could shift the results by 2 points toward Biden in Pennsylvania, for instance, once they’re counted.

R112 LOl Funny hw said Mexico will take care of me. Hmm isn't a country taking care of its citizens what they were voting against. So NOW he wants a country to take him in no doubt an unskilled worker and give him lodging and healthcare and treat him well. You couldn't make it up.

It's Datalounge R109, I can bitch if I want to.

Real tired of people telling Dataloungers they're not being polite enough. This is Datalounge, not Ravelry.

R114, maybe the PAC should begin courting the likes of Stacey Abrams.

I went to bed last night at 11, slept in this morning, and they're STILL with the same numbers?

Go Joe!

We're stuck with McConnell for now but if Joe wins, along with a stellar cabinet of experts, Bill Barr and Mike Pompous will be history.

Ok, R117, fuck yourself with a barbed wire dildo.

R199 Same finally passed out for 12 hours and nothing changed.

Oops, ^ Joe will appoint a stellar cabinet. The current batch of toadies will be gone. R121

Why did Hillary chose that fool Robbie Mook? And why hasn’t he gone away to teach at community college?

R116 love it! The best bit is that no-one on the planet, oceans, galaxy, milky way or multiverse will accept him until the humorless gulag agrees to take him at the end. Hilarious! That was very well done actually.

[quote]Two years tops till Trump is dead.

I doubt it will take long.

R109

That comparison is not fair at all. California has WAY more votes to count.

r112 that was hilarious, thank you

You're welcome R128 and R116 :)

Everybody needs a laugh.

How do any of you have a job? I'm retired early so I have time to waste on Datalounge whilst I drink my coffee.

I took yesterday off work r130. Now I am trying to work while still obsessively checking my phone.

We're working from home is this shit show if a year where everything has gone wrong! Luckily I don't have to do Zooms etc. I'm a factory supervisor so mostly just data entry and some paper work today.

I actually took yesterday and today off r130, just to follow election results and threads like this. It's a little obsessive, but it is the central thing in my life right now. I'm hoping it's resolved today, because I sure as shit won't be thinking about work tomorrow if it isn't.

Love it! Warnock already has an ad out!

I really feel like we could win both senate seats in GA in a runoff. Black voters will turnout for Warnock, which will also help Osoff. Democrats have won most of the special elections over the past 4 years.

So we can forget about Georgia then. 96 % counted and Dump in the lead. Doesn't look good.

R135, I agree, especially if the insider trading investigations of Loeffler and Perdue move forward and we hear about it.

R136, there are about 61k ballots left and if the ratio remains consistent, Biden will win GA by a few thousand votes. It will be very close and not a done deal.

[quote]Why did Hillary chose that fool Robbie Mook? And why hasn’t he gone away to teach at community college?

Robbie did some things wrong, but was FAR better than Biden's team in reaching out to Latino voters. If Biden had won Latinos by the same margins as Hillary, then he would have already won AZ, GA and NC.

That's a great video R134. I really like Warnock. Is he gay friendly? I notice he's a reverend which is usually not good.

[quote]So we can forget about Georgia then.

Most of the remaining ballots are in Democratic leaning areas. Per MSNBC Fulton County should be releasing more numbers soon.

They know the country and world are watching and they’re like “I’m going to take a day off”, “I’m going to wait until tomorrow/some other time”. WTF?

GA: Trump up by 18,146

Remaining mail-in ballots: 61,367

They need to hurry up

Your current president is demanding they stop counting votes now - America, you're fucking wild. It's worse than a 3rd world dictatorship. Once he's defeated he must surely be jailed, forever, right?

NYT Georgia results.

96% counted and fat fuck Dump is 0.4 in the lead.

...Considering that, on top of that, absentee ballots are likely to be considerably bluer than how the counties vote overall, catching up in Georgia looks achievable for Biden. There are also more outstanding votes reflected here (about 61,000) than earlier estimates, which had been closer to 50,000. One small bit of caution, though, when you’re perusing results: now and then, it will turn out that a group of votes that one source says is still outstanding have actually been counted already, or vice versa. The data on Georgia here would seem to be relatively clear and explicit, but you should always be careful — gathering information about the outstanding number of votes is always complicated in real time.

Stop with the NYT links. Few here subscribe.

They all need slapping R142. Totally unacceptable.

The entire world is watching. Billions of people. I'm not joking. Billions.

Jon Ralston is a drama queen. He’s trying to make his Nevada blog into a horse race. Trump has no chance there. When they finish counting Clark County Biden will be way ahead. It’s overwhelmingly democratic.

Donald certainly is launching a lot of lawsuits to stop the counts

I hope Biden wins GA, AZ, and PA, because any legal challenges the Fuck Fat could launch would be meaningless. No way any of them would go to the SC

If we are lucky and the Nevada vote release in an hour looks good for Biden, I am really curious what happens.

AP and Fox have called Arizona for Biden, so if Nevada is going to be an obvious Biden win are they going to call the race...? That would be 270 by their count.

His so-called legal challenges are meaningless anyway.

I want Fox News to be the first place to officially call the election for Biden.

Trump calling on his army.

What time is the NV dump coming this morning?

Any legal challenges are bullshit regardless. Their “strategy” is a mess and the only people who buy it are the qanon level deplorables.

R148, I think these NYT links are free to access.

Has Melania started packing up her thongs and wigs?

A work colleague had a meeting with a UK client yesterday morning. She was trying to avoid the news, but the first thing the client said was "Hey, we hear you don't have a president settled yet." Yes, people worldwide are paying attention to this.

I'm sure this 11:30 thing will be the same blah blah we've been hearing about how it's all been rigged and they're suing everybody.

[quote] Robbie did some things wrong

SOME?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

FB spiking. Not sure why. Did NV numbers come?

I think PA looks like it's going to come in for Biden. NV too. Not so sure about AZ. So he's comfortably over 270.

I think there's a real possibility Georgia will actually come in. Which will only set up two great runoffs for Senate. If Dems win both those - THEY HOLD THE SENATE. And as was said on some other thread - if this happens folks need to stop and look at what Stacy Abrams accomplished with her laser-like focus on fighting voter suppression and getting Democrats registered. There was a lot sniping about her being too ambitious, not know her place, etc etc. She produced.

No NYT links are not free to non subscribers

The whole world is watching. My uncle is a fire fighter is Ireland. They had a call to a chimney fire at the home of an elderly housebound lady in rural Ireland yesterday and she said 'why are they still voting for that old clown'!

NYT was free for election coverage but you do have to sign up for a free account

[quote]What time is the NV dump coming this morning?

Right after the prune juice kicks in.

A clip of Japanese coverage.....

They're following the Georgia results closely at Sugarbaker's Design Firm in Atlanta.

Julia, Mary Jo, Charlene, Anthony, Carlene, Payne and Vanessa all voted for Biden.

Suzanne, Allison, BJ, Reese, Bill, JD and Ted voted for Trump.

Bernice accidentally hit the Spanish language button in the voting booth and has no idea who she voted for, but she intended to vote for Biden.

r169 that graphic is hilarious.

I was reading a very old DL thread this morning: "Why are the Japanese so weird?" or something

Unclear on this point: Is Trump challenging drop box ballots as well because they have no post mark?

Unbelievable (not really) that Trump and his supporters and pissing and shitting all over the principles of democracy

It seems that even a large number of GOPers realize that this is not a good look

They just need to announce the counts. Then if Biden wins according to the states' counts, anything else looks horribly illegitimate. The courts will be VERY reluctant to overturn anything.

If someone dies at the hands of Trump supporter, in light of his message to "fight back!", I think senators will start to back away from him. I think things will start crumbling around him at an accelerated pace.

I'm not going to lie, I was pushing AZ in the last thread for Trump. What I don't get is even this morning, Fox is holding strong that AZ is going to Biden and haven't wavered from that position since election night. They have counted it towards Biden. NV is basically the do or die state for Trump. If he loses NV, it is game over, which I am not thrilled about, but I accept.

Trump’s legal challenges are bullshit, but if the election comes down to 1 state, that’s enough to give Trump a pretense to get before his SCOTUS stooges.

Much as they’ll want to, 5 of the 9 justices will not be able to pull off giving Trump a win in more than one state when they’re going to need different legal bases to stop the count in one but continue in another, etc.

So to truly end this, Biden needs at least 2 of the remaining 4 at issue

Meanwhile, in Michigan ... court hearing on Trump's lawsuit soon.

r174 I think the federal judge's ruling on drive-thru voting in Texas was a positive harbinger of any Trump lawsuits

R140:

[quote] The fallacy of “religious freedom” as a thinly veiled means to codify anti-LGBTQ+ bigotry demonstrates the need for the Equality Act and lawmakers who'll stand up for it.

[quote] ...for 15 years as senior pastor of Atlanta’s Ebenezer Baptist Church, I have championed the fight for equality in our state, standing firm from my pulpit against so-called religious freedom bills to support the dignity of all people . But to ensure equality for all, we need comprehensive legislation passed in Congress to enshrine equal rights for all against the whims of bad bills or the changing tides of our nation’s highest court. The notion that equal rights are a sacred part of the American promise and who we are is the covenant we have with one another. And the fierce urgency in the voices of LGBTQ people who have waited too long for equal justice under the law demands that we act now.

Didn’t Nevada say 9AM or was that Arizona? It is 8:34AM Pacific right now.

Michigan state court. OK... more likely to back her state's counting methods. I think.

Counting temp suspended in Philly.

PA is do or die for Trump. He can not win without it, and Biden can win without it.

Robbie did some things wrong, like lose overall, but man, where he hit it.... greatest loss ever. A real how to.

R183, did they say why?

Regardless of the winner, I think PA comes off looking really bad. They declared they would stop counting around 9pm PST on election night. They are a democratic state, but the pushback from the governor is not a good look for them in such a tight race. It will always leave a lingering suspicion.

Ay yi yi! Voting is halted in Philly County. Jesus.

Of course the world is watching! Everyone I've met these 2 days in London has been talking about it. Obviously people are amazed that Dump got any votes at all.

Why???

Why???

All of the U.K. seems to be in awe. I live in London and everyone is like what the fuck is going on and how can this happen in the great United States which has always been such a stable leader. It’s horrific. He is a monster like Mussolini. Also... what a joke if they think Biden and Kamala are far left they should come over to Europe to see what far left is. What a joke.

Wtf?? More Trump intimidation??

[quote] They declared they would stop counting around 9pm PST on election night.

I think you're mistaken, R187. Ballot are allowed to arrive up to three days after election day in PA.

Brits were picketing when he came here for that short trip. They had to cancel any plans for a traditional carriage ride as thousands were planning to moon the old fucker.

R150, people in Las Vegas either have a choice of Jon Ralston or Sheldon Adelson’s propaganda rag, so many prefer Ralston.

Everyone in NV knows Trump will lose, if they’re not delusional Repubs, because Vegas is Dem. But it’s really obvious news media talking heads are all from NY, and they know absolutely nothing about how things work here. Neither do Trump’s people.

Trump’s pundits somehow decided “Nevada” is Republican, and Las Vegas must be Republican because of the high Covid related rate of unemployment. In 2009, we had the highest rate of unemployment in the country, and it took years to dig out. So Trump thinks we want everything open no matter what.

Trump is wrong. Making Vegas into Typhoid Mary Town will drive off guests for decades. It would be like a big fuck you to tourists, and people won’t forget. There’s no upside to destroying the tourist industry for decades, for a month or so of being open, then killing off half the local population. People want to live. Many workers here are blue collar union and they need to be healthy to work. Trump himself is always for short term gain, if your city is built on tourism, that doesn’t work.

If he understood anything about Vegas, he’d know Clark County (the Strip) is Democratic. There are no Republicans hiding anywhere. The Republicans in the red counties voted in person and were counted long ago. Democratic mail in ballots are what’s outstanding.

Governor Steve Sisolak (D) sent out mail in ballots to everyone due to Covid. Dems will win Nevada because of that. And Repubs attacked him for it and they’re going to try to run him out because they lost the state because of it.

Why do you think Trump has been attacking mail in so hard? It guarantees a high Democratic turnout. It’s pathetic that he thinks Clark County will turn red over lost business. Everyone here knows we’re high risk due to tourism. You can’t make money if you’re dead.

The Trumpers here have been having apoplexy over shutdowns for months. Loud doesn’t mean majority. Trump’s people are either lying to Trump about his chances, to calm him down or to stir up shit, or they really are that stupid. If they are, they shouldn’t be pollsters or campaign “experts.”

Shapiro Pennsylvania is so hot. He’s groovy and mildly annoyed. Like a white Obama. Elect him something. In board shorts.

Dems now in court in Philly to stop the poll watchers from coming into the count room so hence the suspension

Literally the world is watching the US at the moment and we're all so shocked that it is THIS much of a complete shit-show.

We're also extremely shocked at how close it still is - it just shows that half the country is as stupid and evil as Trump.

I can't imagine being an American right now, I would be beyond stressed.

R193, voting is on pause as Trump’s suit is countered.

As an American in Sweden watching everything unfold, I’m alternately embarrassed and fascinated.

How great if it’s Pennsylvania that delivers Biden’s win since Jill grew up in Pennsylvania.

To add to R199 we're all disgusted but not surprised by Dump's lies and petulant reaction. Always someone else to blame.

We are heading to a run off in Purdue and Ossof race. Purdue has now officially dropped below 50%

Approx 10M Americans live abroad. It used to be easy and straight forward to submit an absentee ballot. No more.

Hoping we get NV's votes in 17 minutes or so.

R198, I believe the key is stopping Trump’s own observers. Let’s be clear, there are observers, Democratic and Republican already monitoring the count.

R165, I don't subscribe to the NYT but I'm seeing their election result pages for free.

Nevada and Georgia announcements soon

Americans abroad are overwhelming Dems so absentee ballots should help Biden

Why are Dems against poll watchers r198? Do they fear violence/intimidation?

R198, Trumpers are a cult. They’re immune to all facts. That’s why a lot of Republicans are now calling themselves independents. They don’t want to be associated with it either.

Trump is old and in poor health and he’s not going to live a long time, or if he does he’ll be too sick to be in public life. His father died of Alzheimer’s. Same with McConnell. He is at death’s door. He probably won’t last to the end of Biden’s first term.

These Trump cult members will likely have their leaders die out from under them sooner than later.

PA's highest court said Trump watchers can enter the facility. There was already a GOP watcher, by law, allowed in and he's been there all along. But they want more Trump observers. PA court said OK. Counting in Philadelphia is halted as Dems try to ... appeal?

Coup. "Observers" might mean armed federal forces, which Barr said may enter all counting facilities.

Anyone explain why Nevada is so slow? It doesn't have a huge population like the others still counting

R209 They are against Trump sending in his people. There are already watchers in there both Dem and Republican as there always is

Its possible it won't end up being *that* close when all is said and done r199.

The real issue is how long the process takes. We don't know what the margin is going to be in a lot of states.

It is still conceivable Biden could win Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. If that happens it is actually a pretty nice election for Biden

I swear CNN’s anchors are choosing their words just to troll Trump.

R208, they probably fear that rioters will steal votes from the room or set it on fire.

Thanks r206

R209, by PA law each party may have one watcher in each facility, and they are there now in Philadelphia and have been all along. Counting has been live streamed as well.

THERE HAS BEEN A GOP WATCHER IN THE FACILITY ALL ALONG BUT TRUMP WANTS TONS OF THEM TO INTIMIDATE AND INTERFERE WITH THE COUNT.

[quote]Anyone explain why Nevada is so slow? It doesn't have a huge population like the others still counting

They are 50th in education, they can't count well

This PA thing is a huge deal. Things are going to move fast. Will federal guards show up and take the ballots for "safe" counting?

Pam Bondi can choke.

I'm from the UK too r199 but am not shocked at how close it is. It's almost to be expected given how Democrats allowed themselves to be associated too closely with BLM, trans, Sanders, etc. It's a shame because Trump is a fuck-up for the UK too, but that's what happens when the party lets the issues it stands for get too defined by whoever screams loudest on social media.

Trump is raging against the voting process in the battleground states. But where are Lindsey and Mitch? They're not speaking up for Trump. They got the Senate, so they don't need Trump. They're done with him. And they're already distancing themselves.

AP just closed the gap in PA to under 12K votes

[quote]Ok, R117, fuck yourself with a barbed wire dildo.

You're not even the guy I was talking to, unless you got your sockpuppets confused or something. You're the one whining about CNN "boosting" Biden.

Here in the UK, I was hoping to open my Trump is finally gone bottle of champagne last night and looks like I won't be able to do it tonight either (it's nearly 5pm now). Hurry up! P.S. if Trump wins, the evil government here will go for a no deal brexit which I definitely don't want and is at least part of the reason I'm glued to the news and the DL threads.

Wow live in MSNBC Trumpsters in Nevada now chanting Fox News sucks and CNN sucks.

Is it volunteers who do the count or government employees? Are they searched coming into and out of the station?

Oh no, Democrats didn't shit all over trannies like R222 wanted them to, no wonder Trump Will Win!!!!1!

That was tense on MSNBC. Things are getting hairy. We need a call.

[quote]We are heading to a run off in Purdue and Ossof race. Purdue has now officially dropped below 50%

Please, please, please let our Jon win.

The Trump team is also accusing Clark Co. of accepting “thousands of fraudulent ballots”.

Please scratch what I said. I'm fucking pie eyed at this point. Apologies.

They have to hurry up with the counts in NV and AZ.

They'll say/claim anything.

R225, I love that CNN is boosting Biden. Fuck, you’re stupid. If you can’t keep up just read along, ok, dear?

A MSNBC reporter in Vegas just chased down Richard Grenell asking what proof he has of his allegations of voting fraud. Grenell ran away and got into a van.

R230 We do need this to be wrapped up ASAP. Getting ugly.

They want "access" to the ballots. Jesus.

Why are Trump supporters chanting "Fox News Sucks"? What did they do?

R226, we were hoping to do the same in Sweden! This is madness.

Perdue below 50%, just barely:

Perdue (R): 49.9996% (2,435,319 votes)

Ossoff (D): 47.69% (2,323,128 votes)

R240, The Fox News desk has stood by their AZ call. Hence the chants.

They called AZ for Biden, R240.

Remember Dump saying, with absolutely no evidence, that if all illegal votes were discounted he would have beaten Hillz in the popular vote.

Everyone is nervous, R192. I'm Canadian and since we're right next door to them, the instability is frightening, everything they do directly affects us. Four more years of Cheeto would be a disaster. Americans who think that Biden is "radical left" is hilarious to most people here as well.

We have an independent, apolitical, non-partisan agency here called Elections Canada, and they administer/oversee federal elections. No part of this shitshow would never happen here and most people I talk to are astounded at what is happening south of the border. Videos of Americans lined up for hours and hours to vote, being touted as "democracy in action!" by some Americans are viewed as a horrific voter suppression and nothing to brag about. I work with a few Americans and they either are ashamed of what's happening or they defend the gong show with defensive American exceptionalism - "we're the greatest/biggest democracy in the world," "we have 10 times the population as Canada," "our court system is complicated."

I don't want them to die soon R210 - I want them to be held accountable for their crimes, to be publicly and systematically humiliated and utterly destroyed and then spend the rest of their miserable lives behind bars to show all of the cult exactly what happens when you behave in such evil, corrupt ways.

I want to see them begging and screaming, soiling themselves as they are dragged out of the court in handcuffs. Oh how I will laugh!

Just declare the election over, Electoral College votes Biden 264 - Trump 214.

Biden is six electoral votes away from being the official winner since yesterday. He's won. But everybody's tiptoeing around Old Man Trump trying not to set him off. It's probably a good strategy. Let him concentrate on his lawyers and lawsuits instead of getting on Twitter and calling on his fans to go shoot anyone who had a Biden lawn sign or bumper sticker.

Market starting to dump. They know chaos is coming. Violence. Coup.

It's still 253/214.

UKGuy, you have a beautiful cock, I will give you that. You have enough to worry about with your month long lockdown, Brexit, and your own Trump with BoJo. I love the UK, so I do wish you well.

AP (and Fox News and others) gave AZ to Biden yesterday. 264/214.

Ah, thanks R246! As if we weren't embarrassed enough, now we find out the neighbors are talking about us! Next Mexico will build a wall & insist we pay for it

What does one wear for such a thing, r250?

R250 The market is still blissfully exuberant about everything. All time highs. It's inexplicable.

What do these lawsuits accomplish? Vanity for a fallen king? If he actually cared about the country he would wait for the results and admit defeat. But filing selective lawsuits to stop vote counts is the sign of a loser.

R251, R252

I'm watching SPY and SPX, R256. Opened great but looks like it's going to dump.

R229, the Democrats don't do anything specific for trans, they just say "we love the trans!" You haven't yet got to the point in the US where you are legislating for things that the trans are arguing for, such as gender self-ID or criminalising the idea of "misgendering" trans people on a federal level. Let us know when you do and we'll see how much support the Democrats can get for those kinds of policies.

But, hey, if Biden wins it will be just about - and that's against someone as awful as Trump - while the Democrats didn't manage to get the Senate and did badly in the House elections, so, yeah, maybe the Democrats do need to reflect a bit.

r246

[quote]they defend the gong show with defensive American exceptionalism - "we're the greatest/biggest democracy in the world," "we have 10 times the population as Canada," "our court system is complicated."

Have they heard of India?

R252 Where can I see UKGuy's dick?

Republican Judge Christine Fizzano Cannon (law degree from the illustrious Widener University) is allowing Trump goons in to "watch" the count in Philly. From 6-feet away. Right.

Biden needs to get his people in there too.

Trump says ‘STOP THE COUNT’ as Ariz., Nev., Pa., N.C. and Ga. continue tallies

How did UK guy’s dick come into evidence?

Trump's lawsuit in Georgia has been thrown out!

I tried links to news stories but DL rejected them all, will try again in a sec.

Oh, God, Wolf is back. This just got twice as painful.

[quote]They are 50th in education, they can't count well

Nevada is the gambling capital of the USA. If anyone should be able to count, it should be Nevadans.

Here's a tweet from Greg Bluestein about the lawsuit in GA being thrown out:

....

Republican Judge Christine Fizzano Cannon (law degree from the illustrious Widener University) is allowing Trump goons in to "watch" the count in Philly. From 6-feet away. Right.

I'm guessing the goal is for someone to emerge from this watch with horror stories (they pick their noses & wipe it on the Trump ballots!) they'll spout to Hannity to try & further undermine the vote count.

For his entire life Trump has always used lawsuits against anything he didn’t like. Even if the lawsuits had no basis. He has always, always used the courts. This is nothing new from him. He’s looking for something to blame his loss on. Anyone with a brain knows nothing will come of these lawsuits to invalidate legally cast ballots.

[quote]Wow live in MSNBC Trumpsters in Nevada now chanting Fox News sucks and CNN sucks.

Fox and CNN are shaking in their boots - NOT.

R263 That's what I was afraid of. Tables are about to be turned over. Fires set. Six feet is nothing. What kind of judge makes such a ruling? Oh, that's right a cheating Republican one.

Is Nevada already reporting the tally?

[quote]Republican Judge Christine Fizzano Cannon (law degree from the illustrious Widener University) is allowing Trump goons in to "watch" the count in Philly. From 6-feet away. Right.

Biden should send equivalent number of watchers then.

Trump lead in GA goes lower - 14,765

Boo.

Jon Ralston is cautioning don't expect too much about Nevada vote release. Still a lot more to go. ---

Few minutes to votes being released.

Remember: Not all Clark votes are going to pop up. Only a fraction coming. And rurals, too.

No way Biden campaign can actually think Nevada will be called today.

Not enough votes scheduled to be counted.

253/214

[quote]Republican Judge Christine Fizzano Cannon (law degree from the illustrious Widener University) is allowing Trump goons in to "watch" the count in Philly. From 6-feet away. Right

Dems should appeal pronto.

R280, they are. That's why it's halted.

264/214

[quote]Have they heard of India?

Nobody cares about India, R261.

And curry is not a deodorant.

Good watch while you wait

Deplorables don't need Fox News anymore, so it's easy for them to drop it. Facebook is their go-to source for their satanic QAnon conspiracy theories.

It does beg the question: where does Fox News go from here if their ratings start to slip?

~60K votes left in GA.

Fuck the NYT Troll right in the ass.

Thanks, R281. I'm running a bit behind.

In other news, Palm Beach County local election results, Sheriff Bradshaw (D) wins fifth term

Georgia is only 14k+ vote difference

Biden gained in NV, 1 point up now

Buckle up. Might be taking holiday road trips to Athens and Atlanta. Georgia could be the center of the political universe in a few weeks.

Biden's lead has gone up 5000 in NV!

[quote]Only about 14K votes or so updated from Clark and Biden lead goes up by almost 5K.

Guardian has Biden up 12k votes in NV

CNN-- Biden just increased his lead in NV

PA SCOTUS OVERTURNED LOWER COURT DECISION AND GOP WATCHERS ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED IN.

Nevada 2/3s of new vote went to Biden.

Biden was 7k+ ahead now he is 12k+ ahead.

Call it!!!

Hold on. Trump was 80K behind Biden in NV, now he's only 12K behind.

R296. Excellent.

Maybe India is the one worse liberal democracy when it comes to electoral integrity (US is next to last and I've been wondering who was last).

Would Russia even count?

Maybe countries reach a certain size and become so unwieldy and disorganized and wild, with varied regions, and what-not -- like Russia which busted into pieces, and China who mistreats Uighers and Tibetans etc and is authoritarian, and India which is sorta becoming a theocracy under Modi...

The USA is too fucking big to behave in a civilized manner, I guess I'm trying to say (and I'm American)

R296 Great news

[quote]Deplorables don't need Fox News anymore, so it's easy for them to drop it. Facebook is their go-to source for their satanic QAnon conspiracy theories.

And soon-to-come Trump TV!

[quote]We have an independent, apolitical, non-partisan agency here called Elections Canada, and they administer/oversee federal elections.

But we don't have federal elections. We have 51 individual elections. Thank the Electoral College for that.

R299, you're mistaken. Biden's lead was 7600, and now it's 12K.

Call NV, Fox News. You know you want to.

r299 he was never behind that much. You are thinking of AZ.

He was behind 8k at the most from election day.

Yes there is no federal election system in America, every state runs their own election system by their rules.

watch the live stream of the Philly mail in ballot count!

I went to school with Judge Fizzano Cannon. Family owns a concrete company. Enough said.

Trump TV will be another financial disaster. Very hard to start a cable channel these days. He'll prob do an internet show and hawk muscle gainers and testosterone boosters like Alex Jones.

Hmmm, I guess you're right. I think the numbers are starting to run together.

[quote]Anyone with a brain knows nothing will come of these lawsuits to invalidate legally cast ballots.

Plenty of unpaid legal bill will come of these lawsuits.

That I can promise!

Arizona had Biden up over 80k, he has slipped down to 60k+ He just needs to hold on in AZ. Trump needs to collect 56% of the remaining ballots to over take him.

Andrea Mitchell: Biden's margin in Philly better than both Obama and HRC

Link to PA Supreme Court ruling reversing the intimidators court order? I need confirmation!!!!

Biden has more than an edge in the remaining PA ballots. If that happens, nothing else matters constitutionally. It would all be padding.

If PA doesn't go for Biden, there has been some kind of cheating. It's over, Biden will be President - we just need to formal call.

GA, NV will likely go.

AZ, still unsure.

NZ to Trump.

If AZ stays with Biden, Biden could beat Trumps 2016 EC total of 304. Wouldn't that be fun?

Perdue has slipped down to 50.0. One more tenth of a point and it's a run-off.

I think that someone keeps confusing Arizona and Nevada.

The count is back on now and MSNBC confirming overturned but they expect he won't stop and will keep on filing lawsuits

Perdue already slipped below in the most updated numbers r319, some sources are slow to update.

Senator Casey says he thinks Biden will win PA by 100K. Andrea just now.

Perdue is actually at 49.9+ it WILL be a runoff. And it is expected to go lower.

R316, Andrea Mitchell confirmed PA Supreme Court overturned and the PA count now continues

Huge admiration to all these ballot counting essential workers, who are most likely low paying temps, but have to contend with pressure from state administrators to expedite counting, but also from crazy Trumpists @ workplace

What about Maine? Did Collins get 50%?

New Zealand hates Trump, r318 :)

But if Joe gets to 304, it will silence Trump and his ilk more. He will be embarrassed a skunk away. Closer he will be in our face for longer than we want him to be.

Speaking of slow sources on counts -- NY Times is as conservative as they come!

Republicans are just being Karens now.

PA SCOTUS decision is a rebuke to some of America's finest people: Corey Lewandowski, Pam Bondi, and the Concrete Family Judge.

We’re not getting a call today are we

Looks like workers are headed back into the Philly counting room.

NC has been all but forgotten in all this...

Though, since they have until 11/12 to receive and count ballots that is to be expected.

GA election official expects counting to conclude this afternoon.

PA could continue waaaaay into the day.

yes, R334, NC is on holding pattern because they're waiting for votes. I think they allow 3 days for mail-in ballots to arrive post-election day.

I would love to see Van Jones have an epic meltdown.

r327, she his at 51.1 with 99% in. Looks like she won. Unless that 1% to come in hates her.

They do have a weird ranking system whereas the other 3rd parties get to go to their 2nd place vote. Fingers crossed but a long shot.

Biden campaign call - "Victory is imminent" - Kristen Walker just now MSNBC.

R228, in at least some states they’re volunteers. They have to be trained how to do it. That’s why Republicans throw a fit and demand to be let in. The trained people are probably told if they steal votes they’re going to prison. The random rabble rousers are just hysterics.

r337, NC will wait for overseas and military if the vote is close enough to be changed by the expected votes. They said look to Nov. 12th.

It will be campaign mayhem in Georgia until after the January runoff.

If Dems pull 2 senate wins there, Stacey Abrams will be the hero of this election.

[quote]PA SCOTUS

Do you know what "SCOTUS" stands for?

Oh, dear.

They are just waiting for PA and NV. I wonder if Biden will claim victory before he receives a concession call?

I met Stacey Abrams and she is great.

R345, there will be no concession call. Trump won't be involved in the transition either, or the inauguration.

Trump won't concede in any way, he'll slink out of the WH in the middle of the night.

Agreed R347

[quote] I would love to see Van Jones have an epic meltdown.

Nude

Not looking good right now. Scared.

The Biden campaign will signal victory the second he takes the lead in PA. They know no concession call is coming.

NV assholes now giving presser about FRAUD.

R232, Trump calls ALL mail in ballots “fraudulent.”

The bottom line is, did the voter vote according to the law on the day they voted? If so, Trump has no standing. He can’t proclaim legal votes are illegal because he says so. No judge is going to go for that.

Instead, he’ll run the hysterical conspiracy theory circuit until he dies, Alex Jones, Q-Anon etc. ironically, Fox may have no choice but to repudiate him further because he will become more and more unhinged and they don’t want to run their business down the tubes over a hysterical loser that’s over.

R240 Fox says Biden got AZ.

Why do you say that, R351?

Begone troll at r351

[quote]Trump calls ALL mail in ballots “fraudulent.”

Even the ones FOR him?

More from NV lead extends

Why is Trump going nuts over the uncounted votes? The votes could also be for Trump.

I can’t believe Trump hasn’t been on camera again.

John King. Hundreds of thousands yet to come in Pa., Gap is 115.

I think JB is gonna do this.

Trump is going to go full Roy Cohn. Hissssssssssss!

The second this election is called for Biden, the GOP will take an "I don't know her" stance on Trump. He and his legal theatrics will be ignored.

Well, except from the media who are ratings whores.

FULTON COUNTY IS ABOUT TO MAKE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT! TURN ON YOUR TVS!!!! Mikes are out and press is in. This might be why Biden campaign claiming IMMINENT WIN.

[quote]Fox may have no choice but to repudiate him further because he will become more and more unhinged and they don’t want to run their business down the tubes over a hysterical loser that’s over.

Fox will play it both ways. Have Trump on to bloviate but also side with Mitch /Senate GOP.

If democrats stole the election don’t you think they would have stolen a senate seat or two? Trumpers are just so dumb. There is serious brain rot in this country and we’re stuck with it for decades to come.

Yeah, I'm leaning toward PA for Joe as well. Looks good.

Hm, I think Murdoch has had it with Trump, actually. Their little dance is over.

R365, what network are you watching?

[quote] I wonder if Biden will claim victory before he receives a concession call?

Then he will never claim victory

Hell will freeze over before Trump would do that.

Undoubtedly we all have donated alot this cycle but in addition to Warnock's & hopely Ossoff's runoffs, here's a new ask

That's what Q-Anon is all about in the first place. It's to legitimize Trump's outlandish claims and insist they have some credibility, because they come from / are backed up by Q-Anon. And for the Deplorables that's enough. Just like when a priest quoting a random passage in the Bible is enough for Christian nutjobs to legitimize hating others and being allowed to discriminate against them.

But a lot of their audience is Trumpsters, R369. They can't lose them.

AP just updated GA. Biden behind by 13.5K votes

[QUOTE]If Dems pull 2 senate wins there, Stacey Abrams will be the hero of this election.

She is a MAJOR hero of this election.

She is an incredibly hard worker, and from all descriptions, a joyous person.

r370, fox news

Trump has flouted democratic norms and conventions every step of the way. There's no reason to assume he will display any grace or dignity on his way out the door, so there's no point in Biden waiting for formal concession from Trump. I'm sure Biden isn't heartbroken about not having to share any of those transition of power rituals with Trump.

r327, 50 percent is MORE than enough

If anyone had told me a year and a half ago that I'd be dancing, I'd say who me?

Updated data: Biden lead over Trump in Nevada expands from 7,647 to 12,042

Ric Grenfell at the Nevada press conference perfectly illustrating the elitism and arrogance of the Trump administration telling a reporter who asked a question regarding evidence of voter fraud said you are here to receive information. Apparently asking for proof backing up serious allegations is a moral outrage!! Have these people no dignity??

They’re putting on a show. They know there’s no basis to any of their claims. That’s not the point.

Trump has voted by mail for years - this year! to Florida. How can he claim mail-in ballots are fraud?

r382 It still shows an incredible lack of dignity on behalf of Trump's enablers. Such little self respect.

Pretty much ignoring this Zoom meeting that I’m on.

Trump is the biggest fraud of all.

Pundit on MSNBC says Trump legal strategy with the lawsuits is also so that Trump doesn't face pressure to concede.

Reno Gazette says Biden extends lead.

[quote] 9:15 a.m. update: Democrat Joe Biden has expanded his lead over President Donald Trump to about 12,000 votes in Nevada.

[quote] A fresh batch of returns released by state elections officials on Thursday added roughly 4,000 ballots to the lead Biden enjoyed on Wednesday. All of the new results came from heavily Democratic Clark County, where Biden built up a roughly 89,000-voter lead in early turnout.

For R255. They’re selling them on Etsy. Search for “Phrygian cap.” If this keeps up, I’m buying one.

I still can’t believe cunt Susan Collins will end up winning by 7 points. What the fuck happened there?

[quote]Pretty much ignoring this Zoom meeting that I’m on.

I assumed that was the purpose of Zoom meetings.

It’s over in NV, they need to call it there.

Will the Deplorables who yell election fraud ever address why there are so many ballots missing? Why did Trump even come close to winning? Were all the polls wrong? Seriously, it was obviously election fraud... done by the rethugs. Not the dems. How can they claim the dems are guilty of fraud with all the mail-in ballots missing? Fuckikg idiots.

[quote]Trump has voted by mail for years - this year! to Florida. How can he claim mail-in ballots are fraud?

When has he ever made sense? And his goons in AZ were protesting the count - while he wants the count there to go on.

Dumb and dumber.

Trump is more afraid of prison than losing the election.

[quote] Trump has voted by mail for years - this year! to Florida. How can he claim mail-in ballots are fraud?

When has logical consistency ever been part of tRump’s MO?

The hillbilly ME opioid addicts really showed up for Collins

R385, I'm on an 'extended lunch break' while working from home.

R395 Exactly. He knows what’s next.

[quote]Biden will be President - we just need to formal call.

Aw shit. Can I attend in my bathrobe?

Bingo, r395. This is a literal fight for his life.

Dammit Georgia. Come ooooon.

Trump has one name running through his mind right now, not Biden....Letitia James!

What bulge would Jon Ossoff need to get in Georgia to win outright, with no runoff?

I was on a call and couldn't hear the news. Did PA say that they wouldn't have results today? I heard the tail end that Allegany (sp?) County was about to move the provisional ballets from the warehouse to the counting locations.

The Georgia Secretary of State press conference is scheduled for 3pm EST. They must be confident that all votes will be tallied by that time.

Michael Cohen thinks Trump will resign so Pence can pardon him.

R404, asking the important questions.

Had Trump been seen in public since his "victory" speech?

Outstanding votes are in MANY blue counties in GA.

R407 - Pence can only pardon FEDERAL crimes NOT state crimes.

Does Trump have any federal crimes outstanding?

R405 court order in that county to open them tomorrow

This election will be called at 3PM today by Georgia election officials.

Pants can’t pardon anyone that hasn’t been charged with a crime. That’s why the SDNY and others are holding back until the whiny bitch is out of office.

[quote]Trump is more afraid of prison than losing the election.

This will the the upside of Dems probably losing the Senate.

No more Agent Orange in the WH, no Barr DOJ dirty tricks. NY AG putting Trump's ass in jail.

R407 A presidential pardon won't stop Letitia James. Pardons only apply to federal crimes.

Pence

I don't expect PA to finish today, though the writing could be on the wall regardless...

BOO! Andrea Mitchell screwed the pooch. Clarifying now that the PA Supreme Court hasn't actually taken action yet.

[quote]Does Trump have any federal crimes outstanding?

2a: UNPAID left several bills outstanding

What's frustrating is Trump won 2016 with similar slim margins and we could have done all this suing and protesting too instead of conceding and having the class to participate in the transition and inauguration.

anyone from Maine here? I've heard the Democratic Party there is just really fucked up, divided between the pure and the impure, and they do nothing but fight with each other. It's why there was Governor Le Page for so many years, an incompetent doofus but they just couldn't unite against him. That's what I've read, but is that true?

Biden obviously won. This is ridiculous.

Do you think they will demand a GA recount -- either party?

I like that you called Pence "Pants," r414.

Atlanta press conference. Washington Post has it.

r365 what's been Faux News' spin on these lawsuits from 45 and protests @ counting sites?

Ohhh to be a fly on the wall in that WH

Perdue at 49.96 in Georgia. Runoff if this holds!

Biden -13500 in GA -114,000 in PA.

R425 and Pants is a Pence is a Putz.

nxthompson @nxthompson 18m If Nevada is decisively Biden, as now seems likely, and everyone calls it, Fox is going to have a crazy tense decision about uncalling Arizona. Because, if they don't, they got to call the whole thing.

Nate Silver Nov. 5, 12:41 pm A little inside baseball, but this dynamic may affect how different networks are handling Nevada. If you’ve called Arizona (which I don’t think you should have!), then a Nevada call would give Biden the election. But Nevada is probably callable at this point!

WHY is that guy in Atlanta dragging it out?!

[quote]What's frustrating is Trump won 2016 with similar slim margins and we could have done all this suing and protesting too instead of conceding and having the class to participate in the transition and inauguration.

It was a simpler time. With an outgoing President that had honor and integrity.

The more Trump goes on with this, I think some of his supporters are going to start to see the Emperor has no clothes and he is full of it, while some still believe him but I have to believe 1/2 of them are sane.

OMG I think BIden won GA.

He said sopething like "What I never thought would happen is what seems to have happened in histyory in ga today"

R431, NV is callable at <90%?

[quote] (Pence) can’t pardon anyone (who) hasn’t been charged with a crime.

Absolutely wrong. Gerald Ford gave Nixon a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes that he might have committed against the United States as president.

There were no indictments against Nixon.

I`m guessing that Trump is silent because his doctors are taking this opportunity to finally taper him off the steroids he has been on since his Covid hospitalization. He`s crashed hard no doubt.

I wonder if those close to the Trump campaign are encouraging him to concede

R435 - if Joe Baby wins Georgia, he should give a cabinet position to Stacey Abrams who helped with the black turnout.

Fulton County announcement live.

R431 Nate, go back to playing with your baseball cards. You and all poll experts are OVAH.

Would someone kindly remind Andrea Mitchell that "a lady always knows when to leave." The time is nigh for her women colleagues to stage an intervention.

Tax fraud

[quote] I wonder if those close to the Trump campaign are encouraging him to concede

Not if they want to live.

R444 tell that to all the oldies like Wolf Blitzer too

Why does Andrea Mitchell always say, "Thank you for joining us fir this special edition of :Andrea Mitchell Reports"? She's on every weekday at the same time. What's so fuckibg special, Andrea? What?!?

Pissberg wants the day off. Please respect their privacy.

With the Repugs outperforming in every fucking way all across the country, my new thoughts are that the Russian hacking this year was to just add a line of code somewhere that added 5% to every name with an R after it on the ballot because, with having to deal with Covid in Russia and the switch to mail-in this year, they couldn't go with the original cheating game plan. They overcorrected and made it too large because of all the talk about the early vote being so Democratic. Now, it looks really, really suspicious.

He keeps posting random demands on Twitter

"Stop The Fraud!"

"Stop the count!"

What's left in GA I see Chatham, Tailifero, Cobb..all Dem counties. Are there still enough ballots for him to pull it off?

Yawn

there really needs to be a more efficient way to count votes. Of course that would require repubs not being in control of state legislatures

R452 Very possible with the slim margin that currently exists.

[quote]There were no indictments against Nixon.

He was an "unindicted co-conspirator," memorably.

I want Sarah Cooper to host the first White House Correspondents' Dinner under the Biden Administration.

Is anyone getting ... exhausted by all this?

R454 Florida is a heavily vote by mail state but they get counting done fast. Why? They start processing ballots super early, as soon as they get them. After 2000 fiasco they made that the rule.

Every state could do the same.

Nah, R458, we're all just dandy! What a stupid question on DL.

R458 we all are this is beyond obnoxious

but that's because it's so damn close

It's infuriating how many millions more voted for Trump this year compared to 2016

Guys- Do we really have a shot at this? I don't know, man.. I am going for a run. Cannot sit here anymore..

Guys, Georgia might actually happen.

[Quote]BREAKING: In Georgia, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said that as of 12:45 p.m. today there are approximately 50,401 ballots still outstanding

[quote] we could have done all this suing and protesting too

That was outsourced to Jill Stein, remember?

OMG, pundit on TV just said Arizona still has to count '450,000 more votes'! Are there even that many people IN Arizona? And they won't finish til tomorrow..

Let's wish their 2 vote counters- Consuela and LaShonda- well!

At the Presidency r462? Calmn down, Biden's got this.

[quote] today there are approximately 50,401 ballots still outstanding

"approximately"? Why such a specific number with "approximately?" Just say "approximately 50,000."

Steve Kornacki is a non-sleeping national treasure...

[quote]It's infuriating how many millions more voted for Trump this year compared to 2016

I do not believe this for a second. It's blatant cheating.

Just want to thank you all-- these threads have been my go-to news source on the election!

R465 Tone it down with the deplorable-adjacent Facebook "jokes".

Do you feel like all these states are just attention whores competing to be “the one” that clinches it for Biden?

The Fulton County, GA guy said something funny, about "being surprised that GA might play the role it's going to play in this election" (paraphrased). This was streamed on the WaPo site about 10 minutes ago.

"Perdue at 49.96 in Georgia. Runoff if this holds!"

When people see that their votes mattered, they will be energized. Ossoff could win.

[quote]Do you feel like all these states are just attention whores competing to be “the one” that clinches it for Biden?

Opposite, I think. No one wants to be the brunt of the wrath of the Trumptards by being the one to put Biden over the top.

Nevada could drag on for another week if there are a lot of ballots with mismatched signatures

he said bulk of mail in by Saturday/Sunday

Michigan lawsuit is being DENIED. Judge is stating reasons. I'll post the news link when it comes out.

omg this is gonna drag on WTF

R459 Colorado is entirely vote by mail-in ballot. We had the largest voter turnout in the country, and our results were all counted on Election Day. Pennsylvania could have easily done the same, but their Republican legislature didn't wish it to be so. They wanted this to happen because they knew the result would be pro-Biden.

Nevada not used to mail in ballots so their process is slower lol

this is fucking torture. Nevada and Arizona are taking forever

if Biden doesn't get Georgia we're gonna have to wait unless Philadelphia decides Pennsylvania today

I would think Nevada would have a lot of mail ins already. Why are they so incompetent?

Friend who works in politics (Dem) just texted a bunch of us that Trump did not get the votes in Reno he needed and Biden is still crushing Las Vegas so should be a matter of time before they call Nevada, but that networks may be waiting for Georgia so they can be doubly sure.

This fat ass Nevada voter registrar is giving WAY too much attitude. Bitch you better get in there and count those votes, pronto! Some of these people who work for local government think they are demigods. Asshole, you are a public servant and an inefficient one at that!

"Trump has voted by mail for years - this year!"

He made a point of NOT mailing a ballot this year (and not wearing a mask).

Your friend has bogus intel, R484. Clark County is on TV as I type claiming that it will be at least Saturday or Sunday before they have the majority of ballots counted.

[quote]Friend who works in politics (Dem) just texted a bunch of us that Trump did not get the votes in Reno he needed and Biden is still crushing Las Vegas so should be a matter of time before they call Nevada, but that networks may be waiting for Georgia so they can be doubly sure.

As mentioned above, if Fox and/or AP call NV, then they have to call the election. Which might be a problem.

Jon Ralston is no longer mincing words.

He sees no path for Trump to win Nevada. Its over there.

Michigan lawsuit denied.

Can we please call it tonight!

Are all the abacuses working properly in Nevada? WTF? Taking WAY too long and this chubby dude does have some major 'tude.

"Biden is still crushing Las Vegas so should be a matter of time before they call Nevada"

Trump has people in AZ and NV who are deliberately dragging this out for him. If Biden gets both, he gets to walk out to the microphone and declare victory.

NV is talking about 'Saturday' now. Uh-uh, I smell a rat.

That would be hilarious if Fox calls the election soon. Do it Fox.

The delorable rage would a sight to behold.

[quote] As mentioned above, if Fox and/or AP call NV, then they have to call the election. Which might be a problem.

For whom?

The guy who owns half of Los Vegas...who also happens to be one of 45s best friends...

Sheldon Adelson?

A friend of my mothers (a former MP in Canada) who went to the Ukraine to observe their election just joked that we should have sent observers to the US.

Musical interlude

R495, I think he means for Fox and AP. They'll have to call the election when no one else will/has.

R474 It's huge. In a runoff (two runoffs!) if Trump has lost, an election without Trump at the top of the ballot should help Dems.

Here is part 11, we'll need it soon:

Come on, GA

I would enjoy Cher's interlude a bit more if her face actually moved r497.

I'm sure Ms. Clark County Registrar is not only a Datalounger but has personally attacked my recipe for Pancakes Barbara.

Jimmy Carter has proposed UN observers for USA elections over 20 years. He's right.

People will jump at anything

Ugh these 500+ post threads get so slow near the end

are we winning the congress? Im worry that they will control it and biden wont be able to carry out anything

Anyone got a link to the chubby Nevada dude?

We keep the house but the senate is very unlikely but doable, technically

[quote] If Biden looses GA

Oh, fucking dear.

Maybe he can “tighten” GA?

Where did Cher buy those new lips? I want some.

Doesn’t seem to be much R support for the trump campaigns degranged lawsuit strategy.

[quote]Ugh these 500+ post threads get so slow near the end

Here is part 11, R506

Looks like this will be over today!!!

Pennsylvania announces they will finishing counting the 550k ballots they have left TODAY.

Thanks r513!

R514, that's great, but I'm so anxious now that I dictionary-definition-literally feel like throwing up. Ughhh.

Video of bitchy polling Station dude?

Waaay back at r438. I always felt that the blanket pardon by Ford could have been challenged in court, but no one had the stomach to do it, so they let it go.

Cool GTO on MSNBC!

What do people think of Nixon? Was he right to resign?

GTO, R520?

I posted this in another thread, and it was suggested I post it here too:

Just in case anyone is curious as to why Fox/AP called and the others haven't, it's because Fox and AP are using the same data:

[quote]ABC, CBS, CNN and NBC are part of the National Election Pool, which delivers exit polls conducted by Edison Research to those organizations. Exit pollsters use written questionnaires at voting sites to find out which candidates voters selected. During the 2016 general election, Edison polled 85,000 people at 1,000 locations nationwide and conducted phone surveys with 16,000 advance voters.

[quote]The AP and Fox News left the National Election Pool after 2016. To replace traditional exit polling, those outlets partnered to develop a proprietary survey along with NORC, formerly known as the National Opinion Research Center, at the University of Chicago. The method surveys thousands of randomly selected voters in the days leading up to an election and combines that information with poll results from online panels to get a sense of who voters are and which candidates they’re leaning toward. During the 2018 elections, for example, the AP conducted 139,000 interviews with registered voters in every state.

GA finished counting ballots now. This election will be called at 3PM in Georgia!!!!!

PA, please give Biden the lead and put us out of our misery!

A super cool vintage Pontiac GTO pulled up and parked behind the reporter. Mint.

Didn't know that, thanks r522.

Whoever wins GA I fear a recount will be called.

IDK why but I’m still worried for Biden.

[quote]What do people think of Nixon? Was he right to resign?

He saw the writing on the wall. In those days, things weren't as partisan and he knew that a sufficient number of Republican senators would have voted for removal if he had been impeached. Those days are long gone. Which is why no president will ever be removed unless one party has a 2/3 majority in the Senate or the President does something far more egregious than Trump has done.

Look at this cunt. (Owen Jones)

Like his god Corbyn did so well in the UK.

If you do the math, Trump is leading by 114k. The secretary of state said there are about 550k votes to count.

Biden needs to win 60% of that vote to win Pennsylvania. He has been averaging MUCH higher than that in the absentee votes already counted.

Trump only has shitty lawyers who file lame lawsuits to line their pockets.

For and in appreciation of r532:

All I know at this point is that Biden's paths to 270 are higher than Trump's.

R519: I saw that beauty and thought I was dreaming! Thanks for being with me in that bitchin moment in time/flashback.

[quote] Why did Hillary chose that fool Robbie Mook? And why hasn’t he gone away to teach at community college?

He probably gave up teaching when he realized some students choose not to listen or pay attention.

Republicans visited Nixon in the White House when impeachment became probable. They told him how it was. Nixon was a paranoid frreak by that point, but he was also an experienced politician. I assume a deal was made trading a pardon for his resignation.

Trump is not reachable. Republicans are tired of being screamed at. Who was it who compared disagreeing with Trump to being kissed by a chainsaw? They've edged away from him and are now turning their backs. Trump will melt down and humiliate himself without any Republican politicians in attendance.

I really hope Biden flips GA and PA - the Republicans will jump up and down with explosive diarrhea

r534 "Higher?" What does that mean? How is a path "higher?"

Seriously, R538...MAGA, meet GAPA!

[quote] is this shit show if a year....

[quote]I'm a factory supervisor so mostly just data entry

Uh oh.

[quote]Who was it who compared disagreeing with Trump to being kissed by a chainsaw?

It may have been me, but I thought I compared being kissed by Trump to being kissed by a chainsaw.

R539 When they go low.... we go HIGH!!

NATE SILVER

NOV. 5, 1:45 PM

The large number of votes that Pennsylvania says are still left to count, 550,000, is very bad news for Trump in the state, although Biden could likely have closed the gap even with a smaller number.

Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kelly Boockvar tells @CNN that the state will have the “overwhelming majority” of ballots counted today. We may know today whether Biden or Trump won the state.

*550,000 ballots are left to count.

*“It’s looking like we’re ahead of schedule."

— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) November 5, 2020

[quote]President Donald Trump has lost Lynchburg City, Virginia, home to Liberty University—a private evangelical Christian university whose former president was a staunch Trump supporter—making him the first Republican to do so since 1948.

Didn't get the poolboy vote.

Am wondering if Rudy Giulani is in frantic contact with his Russian sources begging them to do whatever they can to alter the trajectory?

Rudy, like Trump, gets away with every nefarious activity.

NATHANIEL RAKICH, ANNA WIEDERKEHR

NOV. 5, 2:03 PM

Biden would need to win about 63 percent of what’s left to count in Georgia in order to win it. Based on how well he’s done in late-counted ballots so far, that’s eminently doable, especially its many blue counties where the vote is still outstanding.

R544 Why can PA count half a million votes in a day but NV and AZ are moving at a snail's pace?

Gotta love the Daily Mirror .. today at least.

R549 Their 2004 front page was the best

[quote]Am wondering if Rudy Giulani is in frantic contact with his Russian sources begging them to do whatever they can to alter the trajectory?

I would have thought that Giuliani would have grown tired of debasing himself by this point, but, nope, he just keeps on going. I guess he truly believes there's no such thing as bad publicity. "America's Mayor" is as corrupt as Trump. Nice legacy you'll be leaving, Rudy.

r550 I guess they're going to have to update that ... now almost 70 million people have voted for someone who is FAR worse than GWB.

"Just deserts," R545; Orange It went all out to fuck [with] our liberty, and Liberty U returned the favor.

To answer the question at R550...

Fox News.

MSNBC Reporter Confronts Trump Campaign's Ric Grenell On Allegations Of Nevada Voter Fraud

R548. I get the impression Nevada & Arizona are dragging it out for the attention and drama. Nevada clerks don't work overtime and appear to be approaching this casually while the whole country is on edge.

No, R546, he does not.

I'm beginning to wonder if this slow count is some agreement between PA, AZ, NV, & GA's secretaries of state to let Biden's birth state to be the one to put him over the top. I think they know that Trump doesn't have the votes to win the EC and just aren't telling us. It doesn't make sense for NV and AZ to take several hours to process these votes with over 85% of the votes counted

[quote]To answer the question at [R550]...

There was a question at r550?

If GA gets called for Biden before NV and PA, then Fox and AP are going to have the same problem. He would only get to 269 with GA but not AZ, but he'd be over with both. So they'd have to call the election.

r559 Did you bother to READ the headline that was posted in the photo?

They might hold off calling GA in that case—unless GA releases final counts.

[quote]Pants can’t pardon anyone that hasn’t been charged with a crime.

Not true.

"Just deserts," R545; Orange It fucked over our liberty and namesake Liberty U. returned the favor by flipping him the bird.

R559... try it again... s l o w l y.

[quote]Pants can’t pardon anyone that hasn’t been charged with a crime.

I think pants can't pardon anyone, period.

"It doesn't make sense for NV and AZ to take several hours to process these votes with over 85% of the votes counted."

I've already told you that we are going as fast as we can! We want to be accurate, don't we? Yes! And my people need to go home at 5pm, right? We will have all votes counted by November 12th. Aside from any votes that arrived Monday because Sherilyn-Mae put those in the wrong warehouse and we won't be able to drive over there until the 13th. So we'll have all the votes counted by the 14th. Or the 15th. Stop asking! I've already told you!

[quote]I'm beginning to wonder if this slow count is some agreement between PA, AZ, NV, & GA's secretaries of state to let Biden's birth state to be the one to put him over the top

Gurl I think the media is in cahoots with these states to hold up the counts so they can get blockbuster ratings for days. Don Lemon needs another palatial home, hunty!

PA is moving fast to avoid any challenge with merit

No one seriously believes Trump can win Arizona

Nevada is just incompetent and slow

[quote] I've already told you that we are going as fast as we can! We want to be accurate, don't we? Yes! And my people need to go home at 5pm, right? We will have all votes counted by November 12th. Aside from any votes that arrived Monday because Sherilyn-Mae put those in the wrong warehouse and we won't be able to drive over there until the 13th. So we'll have all the votes counted by the 14th. Or the 15th. Stop asking! I've already told you!

I can believe that is what's happening. Something like that happened in my jursidiction (local elections). Human foibles were the problem. The person in charge got fired, etc.

GA now 49.5 to 49.3. Only around 13K votes.

R555 is a delightful thing.

Trump leading in PA by 109K now, down from 111K

CNN would be happy for this to go on for months until the next airliner crash or until the next incident that causes arson and looting.

R567 Vera forgot to order more mimeo paper.

R567 Vera forgot to order more mimeo paper!

Oh, God. The one thing worse than Wolf Blitzer anchoring.

Sorry for the double post. DL must be on the same server as the NV Election Commission.

Are the Electoral College delegates being "courted" behind the scenes?

R568 -- Oh, I absolutely think the news networks are in on this! No decision until Friday at 8pm Eastern, 5 Pacific? Bullshit.

And AP is standing by their projected Biden call for AZ, saying Trump doesn't have the votes to catch up, no matter how suspenseful MSNBC is trying to make it.

Trump has sent son Eric to Dixville Notch to personally do a recount.

He’s expected to complete the job in two weeks. That is, if he doesn’t leave his calculator at home.

[quote]And AP is standing by their projected Biden call for AZ, saying Trump doesn't have the votes to catch up, no matter how suspenseful MSNBC is trying to make it.

So is Fox.

If we didn't have "faithless electors" in 2016 when we needed them, we are FUCKING NOT going to have them now.

R579 the whole plan to convince EC voters to give their votes to Rethugs a few weeks back just disappeared from the conversation.

Don't put anything past those fuckers.

Did Trump just go ahead of Biden in Georgia?

Can't Nevada use the same counting machines for the ballots that they use to count all those casino dollar bills?

[quote] And AP is standing by their projected Biden call for AZ, saying Trump doesn't have the votes to catch up, no matter how suspenseful MSNBC is trying to make it.

Wasn't Chris Cuomo also trying to create "suspense"? I think these so-called "poll" results are also created for suspense and advertiser dollars.

R581 you can bet Eric will show up with a shredder too.

Can people please provide context to what you're posting?

R585, what did you see and where?

According to AP they've had Biden behind in GA by a little more than 13, 500 votes for awhile.

Give these vote counters some Geritol and get a move on it!

Why can’t Nevada treat me like I would be treated by any stranger on the street?

[quote]Vera forgot to order more mimeo paper.

Love the smell of a nice, fresh mimeo!

r585 Trump has ALWAYS been ahead of Biden in GA.

R584: Coupled with the curious "disappearance" of Bill Barr, how soon we forget.

[quote]R97 Why is everything dramatic in America? Why is it that everything is dragged out and/or catastrophic?

Why must everything be a [italic] con-test[/italic] ??

[quote] Give these vote counters some Geritol and get a move on it!

Geritol? You've gotta be kidding. Cocaine has its time and place!

Other states:

California had over 10 million mail in ballots returned by election day.

California started counting ballots October 5th as they came in

California was called for Biden seconds after the polls closed.

Be like California.

Secretary of State for Georgia to hold press conference in ten minutes, CNN.

Even conservative judges don't want to be seen as intefering with vote counting.

r497 Yeah, but CA only has about 72% counted now. I'm waiting to find out the results of some of the uncalled proposition races.

America =

Link to PT. 11 in case you missed it above.