ELECTION 2020 Part 9

A what?

Thanks OP.

Eldergays: were the Gore/GWB election this anxiety ridden? I mean we've going for almost 24 hrs already

Ka-risis!

R1 um, this?

Of course, it sucked, R3, but it was also a novelty at the time. We didn't realize every election was going to be a tedious nightmare forever after.

Please post a link because somebody is all over the last thread making up stuff about Arizona

AZ is looking scary. AP should not have called it.

Georgia is now only about 30k votes... with 4% of the vote still to be counted, largely from Dem-friendly places. I think the NYT will be right and Biden will win Georgia. Also, the amount of votes still out in PA, what it looks like it will be, make PA a likely win.

This is excruciating - but Biden could lose both AZ and NV (unlikely) and if he wins either GA or PA he's President.

I wish I could fast-forward to the weekend and just get this finished.

I was hoping someone would post this - thanks OP!

Bernie Sanders hasn’t gotten enough blame for how poorly Biden did in Florida. Bernie has dragged the dem party down with his crazy ass “free everything for everyone” nonsense. A lot of vulnerable house dems also lost because of him. I’m sure joe Cunningham is making a voodoo doll of Bernie tonight.

Fuck that man and his deranged supporters.

Nevada is so full of shit. At least GA is releasing results.

And this is the way it ends. Not with a bang but with a WI/MI/PA.

Stop being deranged, R11. Nobody with a D next to their name wouldn't have been able to court those rabid right-wing Cubans. Also, why would you compromise the party platform and turn it into a clone of GOP just to appeal to that narrow demographic in that one fucking moronic state.

Holy shit WI is close. Fuck my life.

Yes, the Bush/Gore battle dragged on for a month after Election Day, until the Supreme Court finally said, "The hell with it, let's just hand it to Bush."

[quote]The Justice Department told federal prosecutors today that the law allowed the government to send armed officers to ballot counting locations, the New York Times reports.

Not content with having their supporters intimidate poll workers, they're possibly going to send their federal thugs.

Previous thread

[quote]until the Supreme Court finally said, "The hell with it, let's just hand it to Bush."

Along with saying "this ruling is a total one off and can't be used in the future as precedent". It was such naked corruption and it was accepted so easily

Before everyone jumps to this thread, let me state: you have to EKE (not eek) something out with something else! You can't just eke out meatloaf. You eke out the meat with egg and crackers. This is killing me.

What's going on? Why aren't they releasing any numbers?

Matbe this is what a "charisis" is.

Presidential spiritual adviser Paula White is hell bent on bringing this election in for Trump, by brute force.

Video:

WI (which is called) is close, but not as close as it was in 2016.

R9, GA alone isn't enough at this point. That gets Biden to 269. PA alone is enough. AZ + NV is enough. GA + either AZ or NV is enough.

R22 sa lemena la gotepola se na hacum nee de la!!

Thank you Jesus!!

this is torture waiting like this

Charlie Sykes on MSNBC: They can recount in WI, but it won't change anything

A little while ago, Brian Williams said that while a couple of stations have declared a winner in AZ, they at MSNBC have chosen not to yet because it was so unstable.

Bush v Gore went on for days — it was a grim time.

what's going on with North Carolina?

Even Trump is acknowledging these lawsuits are losers. Hopefully they call Arizona and Nevada soon for Biden and put a fork in it.

If Pennsylvania had been able to start processing ballots before election day this wouldn't even be stressful. It is a ploy by their Republican state legislature that caused this to be drawn out.

MSNBC did a scenario a while ago, where it could be 269-269. When that happens, the House of Representatives is the tie breaker.

I wonder if they have started tapering Trump off the steroid regimen he has been on since his hospitalization. The crash will be monumental.

R20, after two days of this, most of the posters on this thread are bleary eyed, and clutching their blankets and saying “Eek!”

What's going on with NC?

R19 Bush was "appointed" President by the corrupt SCOTUS.

R30, NC is just on hold. They are accepting mail ballots for a few more days and the number expected exceeds Trump's present lead. So we just have to wait.

Biden won WI with only about 20k votes. But no recount is going to magically find 20k votes for Trump.

I’m still masturbating, but it’s just ash at this point.

This is hell.

[Quote]NBC News: The Pennsylvania Department of State office’s unofficial tally of outstanding mail ballots to be counted as of 10PM is 763,311.

[quote] MSNBC did a scenario a while ago, where it could be 269-269. When that happens, the House of Representatives is the tie breaker.

And I did a scenario where the Earth reverses its rotational direction and the sun comes up in the West. Intriguing.

Even if GA doesn't go for Biden, my hope at this point is there's enough of new Dem votes to drag Perdue down under 50%, thereby triggering a runoff for that Senate seat and giving hottie Jon Ossoff a second chance. He is an excellent candidate and we need to increase that Senate control margin!

Woah r41. That is a shit ton of ballots. And if the trend continues, the pundits are right, it won’t be that close for Biden.

[quote]Holy shit WI is close. Fuck my life.

Interesting that on that link to the NYT that someone provided showing which news organizations had called which states, only Reuters has not yet called Wisconsin.

R34, you’ll know if they stopped the steroids, if they wheel Trump out of the White House on a stretcher, in a straitjacket with a hockey mask over his face like Hannibal Lechter.

R22 is great. I love how there is a set school of tongue speaking that always seems to involved lots of rolled Rs and the sound "sharada"....

U love you, R13.

Bush v. Gore was awful, but we didn't have all the blogs, twitter and SM to incessantly check. And 24 hour TV news wasn't quite psychotic yet, though it was getting there. Plus it was one state at issue and the disputes over counting got very technical. So people weren't missing sleep because it's not as though anything was getting decided overnight.

Ok, can someone check Kornacki’s numbers about the 269-269 tie? I don’t think it’s possible. Someone here pointed out that it wouldn’t be possible with Biden’s Wins in Maine and Nebraska.

[quote] Yes, the Bush/Gore battle dragged on for a month after Election Day, until the Supreme Court finally said, "The hell with it, let's just hand it to Bush."

Hold on! The moral of the story was that SCOTUS is partisan. Here is a breakdown of the vote in Bush v. Gore:

[quote] Five justices agreed that December 12 (the date of the decision) was the deadline Florida had established for recounts (Rehnquist, O'Connor, Scalia, Kennedy, and Thomas in support; Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer opposed).

Rehnquist: Nixon O'Connor: Reagan Scalia: Reagan Kennedy: Reagan Thomas: Geo. HW Bush Stevens: Ford (outlier) Souter: Geo. HW Bush Ginsburg: Clinton Breyer: Clinton

Never forget!

R33 And in that case Cheeto would win. The tie break is decided by delegations, not by Representatives.

It's not gonna be a tie, though.

It was just about a month ago that Dotard was "diagnosed" with Covid.

Can you fucking believe it's only been one month?

Someone should talk that Karen in R22 off the ledge. Just tell her there's a barista at the nearest Starbucks who won't serve her if she doesn't wear a mask.

R33 that must have been at least 24 hours ago, since that scenario has been mathematically possible since about 1am.

r3, Gore/Bush went on for 5 straight weeks!

It was just weird. Life went on, but it was very odd not knowing who would be the president until almost mid December, when the Supreme Court stopped the counting of the votes.

R56, but to be fair at that time, it wasn't as though people felt Bush was an insane person who would sell the country off for $200.

Jesus Fucking CHRIST! Enough with the handwringing over WI and AZ. WI has been called by basically everyone, and even Fox called AZ. You fucking Marys are giving me GAS!

[quote] The FAA just closed the airspace over Wilmington. Almost like they know he's the president-elect or something

To add to R268 from the prior thread, the FAA has declared the area over Wilmington "National Defense Airspace". "Pilots who do not adhere to the following procedures may be intercepted, detained, and interviewed by security law enforcement/security personnel".

[quote] [R56], but to be fair at that time, it wasn't as though people felt Bush was an insane person who would sell the country off for $200.

Just a draft-dodging dumbo who pronounced "nuclear" this way: "new-kew-lar."

[quote]Nobody with a D next to their name wouldn't have been able to court those rabid right-wing Cubans.

When Cubans arrive in FL, they should get an ID card with the following text on the back:

Do you like Medicare?

Do you like Social Security?

Do you like guaranteed minimum wage?

Do you like Obamacare?

If you answered 'Yes' at least once- Congratulations! You are a Socialist!

You are being played by trolls who you FF and ignore r58.

Dave Wasserman:

[quote]Another terrific performance for Biden in York Co., PA, where he's losing by 24.9 points w/ 230k ballots counted. In 2016, Clinton lost York by 28.9 points w/ 205k votes cast. At these rates, Biden should finish with a healthy lead in PA.

r12, they won a nasty legal battle giving them time to count votes. So they are in no rush. They are like chill, we'll get it done.

All my Trump dotard loving FB "friends" are surprisingly silent today haha

Joy Reid is so unprofessional, how on earth did she get her own show?

Adding AZ to the southwestern bloc of NV, CO and NM would be formidable going forward for Democrats. That's why it would be so powerful if Biden wins the state.

She hates gays, that's how.

These racist Cuban trash. They are trash. Dont lump them with the rest of the Latinos. Theyre latinos who think they are white and pretend to be european. And yes Camila Cabello, is racist skank.

Does anyone think mail in ballots might have saved us? Machines are easier to manipulate.

Just a thought.

Holy shit. Grain of salt for now but damn

Trump lead in GA down to about 30k. He won it by about 200k in 2016.

and the deplorables have descended upon the Maricopa County election center chanting "Fox News sucks" and praying

R60 yeah not quite the same stakes there.

GA: 49.7 to 49.1 now.

I wondered that on a prior thread R70. Can't wait to see whether mail in ballots more aligned with expectations from the polls than in person machines.

Perdue is now down to 50.1. Almost there.

In another sign of what a bright spot GA has become for Dems, it appears #GA07 in suburban ATL might be the site of their only likely pickup of a GOP House seat so far (outside of two NC seats where lines were redrawn).

AP has already called the race for Arizona. What are the networks waiting for?

Get your shit together, NEVADA!

Georgia still VERY much in play.

31,748 now separate Joe Biden and Donald Trump in Georgia. GA Secretary of State says 90,735 votes left to count.

I’m watching the last hour of MSNBC. Rachel said the DOJ might send armed federal guards to the vote-counting places to “observe”.

CNN still won't call AZ for Biden

I think AP was premature. We don’t know how the outstanding ballots will go

AP says the Democrats have lost five House seats and the Republicans have gained six. How does that make sense?

Deplorables are outside the Maricopa election center trying to get in screaming “Fox news sucks”

A lot of Venezuelans are pretty right wing, too. A friend of mine married a Venezuelan guy from a wealthy family who left Venezuela a number of years ago when things over there started getting iffy. His whole family lives in California and Boston. I'm not terribly fond of him but make nice for the sake of my friend. Last October, when the line-up for Dem primaries started to shape up, he told me that if someone, say, liek Warren is the candidate, he has to vote Trump. It's not like he's someone who'll be heavily taxed or has much to lose whoever is in power, but he was so fucking adamant.

God I hope Biden doesnt lose all the states left.

Trump supporters are shouting Fox News SUCKS.

They were showing ads over Rachel talking with the PA AG.

r86, see r73

Out of the 750,000 remaining mail-ins to be counted, in a state where Democrats mostly sought the mail-ins, AND where Philly is still, what, 250,000 shy in it count, Biden doesn't make up the 100,000 difference?

Biden has won Arizona- the math is not there for Trump to suddenly pull ahead.

r85, some where open seats so they weren't seats to lose. No incumbent.

We live in Nevada, and everything here is always done at such an amateurish level that it doesn't surprise me that there are all these delays. I don't think they were adequately staffed or prepared for this task.

After seeing the orange asshole in action for 4 years, it’s shocking he has this many votes. Happy to see Biden doing well but disheartened that half our fellow Americans are racist, sexist or homophobic.

[quote]Ok, can someone check Kornacki’s numbers about the 269-269 tie? I don’t think it’s possible. Someone here pointed out that it wouldn’t be possible with Biden’s Wins in Maine and Nebraska.

I think it involved Biden winning Georgia, and Trump taking every remaining state. It was some nonsense that Rachel suggested because she has no common sense and is an illogical thinker.

Yes it is r93

Protests outside Maricopa counting offices.

wow when the MSNBC reporter walked up the election center steps you could hear the deplorables screaming until he went inside and the door closed. Good thing there are cops outside keeping them at bay

R67 californians have been moving out to those states + TX in record numbers and if remote working continues to be a thing, it might look good. NC is also becoming a tech hub. VA used to be purple, it looks solid blue now, and Amazon is still getting established there. Go nerds! On the other hand, the midwest though seems to be slipping away, its a lot of resentful meth and opioid addicts there I guess with no future. Here’s hoping that African Americans continue to bail Dems out over there.

This is getting scary, with the Trump mobs.

yeah Ohio has turned into a real fucking shithole

[quote] Further explanation: VIP TFR is determined by USSS in coor with FAA. VIP TFR’s are for: President, Vice President, President-Elect and other heads of state visit. Also occurs during UN General Assembly & special events. It means USSS/FAA are treating Biden as the President-Elect

What the fuck are the protestors protesting? trump wanted them to keep counting in Arizona and they are. So what's the problem?

No, it’s not. Arizona is Biden.

CBS and CNN are the only networks not to have called ME-02 for Biden.

[quote]This is getting scary, with the Trump mobs.

It could get a lot scarier - see my post at R17

People in a cult can’t handle the truth.

Obviously I want Biden to win but if he does these Trumpies are gonna get scary crazy.

The counts have to be completed for the mobs to leave.

The police should shoot them all.

The galvanizing force behind Trump is the pro-life movement. He rewarded them with hundreds of Federalist judges and they are here to see what more they can get.

Same with me R65.

r85 and 1 of those seats was MI-3 which was Justin Amash's seat. Since he officially left the GOP, registered as a libertarian, and didn't run for re-election, it's counted as a Republican flip.

R112 Half of them are probably off duty cops

If only JFK Jr had run as Trump's VP as all QAnon-tards were claiming...

[Quote]Seems like the most likely scenario for a call is that networks call the race if and when Biden overtakes Trump in the vote count in Pennsylvania.

[quote]Perdue is now down to 50.1. Almost there.

My fingers are crossed super tight. Out of two run offs for a GA Senate seat, the Dems are bound to pick up one.

Once all the networks and news agencies call it, that must have some effect on most voters’ minds. Will it protect us from the courts?

In the highly amusing link at r22, with Trumps "spiritual advisor", who the hell is the frat bro with the beach towel who keeps hilariously walking in back of her during her sermon? What's the purpose there, anyone know?

God is not pleased with Cubans and Floridians!

I just got this nauseating email from Trump campaign...

BREAKING: PRESIDENT TRUMP WINS PENNSYLVANIA

We have won Pennsylvania.

As our campaign manager, Bill Stepien, said, “This is not based on gut or a feeling… This is based on math, which showed a clear, distinct pathway for the President and Vice President.”

This is a HISTORIC achievement, but we can’t stop now. The fight isn’t over yet, and we need YOU to help us PROTECT the Election from outside threats.

President Trump is calling on YOU to ensure we have the resources to finish the fight. He needs you to step up and contribute to our critical Election Defense Fund so that we can secure FOUR MORE YEARS.

Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to the Official Election Defense Fund and you’ll increase your impact by 1000%. >>

I was so sad about that, R122... briefly

Dear Atlantic, Please swallow them into the sea

I wish MSNBC would buy some new clothes for Steve Kornacki or at least some new pants that are not baby shit brown.

A better question , R123: why are you on their fucking mailing list??

Could Trump actually be realizing he is going to lose?

[Quote]CNN’s Dana Bash says a source tells her Trump is feeling “down” and “starting to see this slip away”

[quote]Adding AZ to the southwestern bloc of NV, CO and NM would be formidable going forward for Democrats. That's why it would be so powerful if Biden wins the state.

I was looking at the 'Blue Creep' on CNN's map. It's a very symmetrical southern creep from east and west.

AZ blue, next stop TX.

GA blue, next stop NC.

I am on both lists to compare how they show themselves.

Im not 123, but I somehow got on their mail list as well, theyre idiots

For some reason Trumptards are chanting "Stop the Count!" in Maricopa County Arizona, a state where Twitler is behind.

So if they stop the count, Biden wins.

Brains clearly not a strong suit but adds a comedic element to Springtime for Twitler

[quote]CNN’s Dana Bash says a source tells her Trump is feeling “down” and “starting to see this slip away”

I'm pretty sure no one here will volunteer to condole him.

Has Dump conceded yet?

[quote] The police should shoot them all.

r129 IIRC, NC voted blue several times (Obama?)

Trump feeling down? Time to grind up some Adderall and take a snort.

"Daddy's feeling blue, Vanky. Come sit in Daddy's lap."

"Ewwwwww, Daddy!"

So they are trying to stop the count which could give Trump the win not demanding they keep voting? I'm so confused.

These people are so fucking stupid they can't even protest correctly.

*keep counting

R136, Obama narrowly won North Carolina in 2008, but not in 2012.

Biden has this.

r117, without his head? Yeah that would have been unique.

Stop counting in Pennsylvania and Georgia! Add new votes in Arizona and Nevada! Jail for Hillary and Lady GaGa! Kiss me JFK Jr!

R128

Another fun possibility: even with the huge surge in voter turnout, Trump likely won't reach Obama's 2008 popular vote total. Meanwhile, Biden sets a historic record.

Obama always > Trump.

Exactly R139. To wit

It would be reflective of the demographic Trump and QAnon appeal to, R143

The deplorables are stupid, but actually not that stupid. Trump wants nothing more than for people to take to the streets and take up arms for him. He would love a news cycle that goes on about his angry mob demanding justice for him. If it gets violent, even better.

He literally told them to stand back and stand by. They are doing what he asked.

Okay, whoever's doing the Guardian liveblog must be reading this thread. R20 will not be pleased

[quote]Gary Peters, a first-term Democratic senator from Michigan, has eeked out a reelection.

r22 What a strange woman

Biden's lead in Michigan is 2.4 pts now, there is still some vote left.

2008 was the first time a Dem pres candidate won NC since Carter in 76. Obama couldn't hold it in 2012. It is straight up fucking embarrassing that Trump might lose it to Biden, or that it's even this close.

r148, you do have a point.

I posted this earlier but no on answered ... don't you think it's odd that Biden got a lower percentage of the vote in his home state than in six or seven other states?

Trump still has a chance at 270.

He just has to lose 50 lbs.

Why is W.B. Yeats posting in this thread? (R147)

NYPD is rioting because Turd is losing

Not really, r155.

Are we losing Arizona?

You are asking why states that are bluer than Delaware voted bluer than Delaware r155.

It's the make up of the state that is most important. Trump being a New Yorker doesn't help him in New York.

There seems to be some psychosis going on about AZ but nothing I see back it up.

r161 Yes, but NY is not a Republican state; Delaware has been reliably Democratic for a long time.

Pennsylvania looks solid. If Biden gets it, election is over.

Holy shit, that police riot in NYC.

Am I tripping? Is it 1968 again?

Somebody called me and said it, that is why I asked, R162.

R155, the last figures I saw for DE, they'd counted only 2/3 of the votes. Maybe Biden's share will increase once the count is complete.

R163, and DE still is. What exactly is your point?

PA Secretary of the Commonwealth says maybe a big dump tomorrow, finished by Friday. MSNBC with Rachel last hour.

Yes Delaware is blue, but there are states that are bluer r163. I don't get what else to say, it is very straight forward.

So are they done updating for today r169?!

[quote]Are we losing Arizona?

The race has tightened but Biden is still leading.

Can they stop calling these voting drops “dumps?” There’s something about the power of suggestion.

AP has changed PAs numbers to: Dump: 50.7 and Biden 48.1.

It’s not a police riot. It’s the same bunch of mostly white protestors who marched during the BLM protests. They’re chanting about counting the vote in a city where 90% voted for Biden. I bet Internet money that many even never bothered to vote. The City can’t afford to pay cops overtime to deal with them but they still continue with their nonsense.

If he can keep AZ and win GA, he won't need PA or NV.

R65 - “ All my Trump dotard loving FB "friends" are surprisingly silent today haha”

Same here. I opened up a half a dozen of their deplorable profiles today, and they were covered in cobwebs. Haha... Fuck them with a white-hot poker.

r174 To elaborate, Trump is about 165K ahead right now.

Our nation is too crazy. So much drama. What are they saying in other countries about this?

Yeah Trump's lead in PA is already down to 164k, earlier it was 700k.

Just a massive swing towards Biden as all the votes are being counted.

Here's a site that gives more detailed vote tracking, totals broken down by counties with totals received and percentages tabulated.

JO JORGENSEN WITH 60,011 VOTES IS FUCKING US IN GA? WTF?

r181 You're linking to a newspaper in Singapore for US election results?

[quote]In private lately he has broached the idea of running again in 2024

I can't quite decide if this means he knew he was going to lose, or if he actually thinks he could've run for a third term

R178 I could have sworn earlier they had them both at 49 and change. How did Drumpf gain?

[quote]You're linking to a newspaper in Singapore for US election results?

They're getting their info from the same sources as the US media They appear to be keeping up with the latest totals.

Third term? Who does that bitch think he is, me?

R185, Trump hasn't gained at all in PA. He's been dropping like a stone all day.

This explains it better than I can:

Itadori @VirtualJoey BRING IT HOME LAS VEGAS CALIFORNIA

Wasserman:

[quote]Although the "Whole Foods revolt" against Trump wasn't as dramatic as we might have expected, it comes through for Biden in Chester Co., PA. Biden now ahead in Chester by 16.5 points w/ 305k ballots counted - way more than enough. Clinton won it by 9.4 points w/ 270k cast.

R182, 😂 Trump getting Jill Stein’d

Speaker Pelosi to her Democratic colleagues:

[Quote]"The American people have made their choice clear at the ballot box, and are sending Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to the White House."

The Guardian has corrected their spelling I posted about in R150 - go on, in your next post give us a sign you're reading! "Accidentally" capitalise a D and a L! Or make a reference to a Mary!

Joe Biden is now about 16k away from Trump in Georgia!!

Another big Fulton County vote count update:

27.8K votes just got counted

Trump: 5,683

Biden: 22,118

That's a net gain of 16,435 for Biden

r192, I hope Pelosi doesn't live to regret that statement.

It's still a tad premature in my opinion.

r191, I meant us, Dems/Joe.

Jeff Tiedrich on Twitter:

In summation—

Trump is a genius but you can't see his grades

Trump is healthy but you can't see his medical reports

Trump is rich but you can't see his tax returns

Trump is innocent but you can't have a DNA sample

Trump is a winner but you can't count the votes

r196, Jo Jorgensen is the Libertarian candidate, she wouldn't be taking votes away from Biden, it would be Trump.

Will Pelosi have to go as Speaker? The House results aren't great (nor are they terrible, but still). I'm a Brit, so genuinely asking, is that the kind of stuff Pelosi would be held responsible for? Likewise for Schumer?

[quote]Holy shit, that police riot in NYC. Am I tripping? Is it 1968 again?

R165, there needs to be some form of evidence for that besides a video posted to someone's Twitter account.

I actually am not sure it is r195. Doing the math I don't see how Trump wins PA. I guess Pelosi's office agrees.

[quote]In private lately he has broached the idea of running again in 2024

When he'll be 78 and a whole lot fatter.

R199: read a summary somewhere tonight. Said Pelosi and Schumer aren’t responsible for this campaign. But there is a lot of unhappiness, dissent, unrest after an unexpected showing for the Dems particularly in the house. The sentence that leapt out to me was this doesn’t create a smooth glidepath for Pelosi. But it didn’t seem to suggest she had to step down or would be forced out either. However she’s probably going to have to work for it.

I don't think convicted felons can run for president.

R199 There is always talk of replacing her, but she acquited herself fairly well against Trump more than a few occasions.

R196, athere's no reason to believe Jo Jorgensen is siphoning votes from Biden. Jorgensen is a libertarian nutter who wants to end SS and Medicare and attracts conservatives. Trump GA lead is a sliver compared to his winning margin in 2016 and Biden is way overperforming compared to Clinton.

I'm worried about overnight shenanigans in PA, etc. if the counters (understandably) go home to rest. Someone please tell me I'm crazy, and they have good security measures in place. I guess I did see video cameras. It does seem that PA will go to Biden as long as there's no interference.

r199, keeping in mind I have absolutely NO personal insight into the inner workings of the House or the Senate, I think Pelosi is likely to stay on as speaker for the next two years. She didn't have a good night yesterday, but she still managed to hold on to the House for another cycle. Schumer on the other hand completely bombed out in the Senate, so who knows what will happen to him?

I personally hope Schumer gets replaced by someone younger as minority leader. We need to stop being the party of the Ancients.

r207 Pennsylvania Governor, Secretary of State and Attorney General are all Democrats, thank god. Security should be fine there.

Dave Wasserman:

Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin (and the presidency) by a combined 77,744 votes in 2016.

At this rate, Biden is on track to finish ahead by more than that in each of Michigan and Pennsylvania.

There's no one in the House who can hold the line with as broad a coalition as the Dems have right now as well as Pelosi. Replace her, and you set up the Dem version of John Boehner for failure.

Dave Wasserman:

In my benchmarks, Biden needed to win Montgomery Co. by 23.0% to carry PA. He's currently up by 25.6%.

Biden needed to lose Lebanon Co. by less than 35.0%. He's down there by only 32.1%. Northampton Co. -3.0%, +0.4%.

This is a pretty consistent picture across the state.

The “Las Vegas California” joke — is that a joke about how many former CA people moved to NV?

[quote] In private lately he has broached the idea of running again in 2024

Are you kidding? He absolutely is going to. He will in fact register his campaign as soon as he gives up trying to steal the election, and he will campaign for four years straight. He’s addicted to the power and he loses that if he stops “campaigning.”

Tommorow's NYtimes Front Page. They are leading with Biden builds edge.

Agree r214. Sadly I think Trump will definitely run for Republican nomination in 2024.

Another big Fulton County vote count update: 27.8K votes just got counted Trump: 5,683 Biden: 22,118 That's a net gain of 16,435 for Biden

Georgia so close...c'mon!

R214. Too bad Dump will lead his campaign from prison. Deplorables will still vote for him, barring they don't die from COVID first.

What's the new update for the Perdue/Ossoff split of the vote? Has Perdue dropped below 50%?

Jorgensen got 30,000 votes in Wisconsin. Trump lost the state by 20,000.

Shoe is on the other foot now. How does it feel, mother fucker?

I dread going to bed for fear I wake up tomorrow to a world where Trump has somehow done it. But I dread more than anything watching Don lemon and Chris Cuomo ham it up on CNN. Good night everybody.

R220, not yet.

Here's a suggestion: decide to give Puerto Rico and D.C. statehood. There, Cuban problem fixed for ya!

R224, need the Senate for that. Everyone was talking about exactly that.

R221, I guess Trump is too warm and cuddly for those Jorganson voters.

R224.

was there ever talk in the first 2 years of Obama's presidency of making DC and PR states? That was the most recent chance

Taniel seems confident Ossof will go to runoff.

So what’s the latest difference in GA? I’m seeing different numbers on all different networks.

This is a good way to grow Dem numbers in swing states. And to spread economic growth to hard-up areas.

R240.

R214,R216, you have to factor in what Trump's mental capacity is likely to be in 2024. If he loses, for one thing his mental illness has to deal with having lost. For another, he'll have to face stresses such as possible prosecutions and what to do about his $400m loans, all while losing 95% of the people who have been making day to day life easy for him the last 4 years. If he is already showing signs of dementia, all those things will exacerbate that as well.

While his followers would vote for him if he were starring in Weekend at Bernie's, I'm just saying four years is a long time for an elderly man with serious pre-existing mental issues.

When will PA finally update their voting results? I fear Trump and Barr are going to nuke it and claim that since he was in the lead this should count as him winning the state.

R233 - Joe is cognitively impaired, but we will have Kamal within the next two years. It's all good.

Psycho Deplorables scare Maricopa into stop counting. Which is dumb, they need counting in Arizona...Biden is ahead right now!

The things Trump has done to our country.

[quote]Shoe is on the other foot now. How does it feel, mother fucker?

Thank God there was no Green Party candidate on the ballot in WI or PA.

r221, Somewhere, Hillary is laughing.

Cuomo looks like he wants to hate fuck Phil Mattingly. Why does he always seems so fucking excited.

[quote]Somewhere, Hillary is laughing.

Deplorables, what a bunch of idiots, yes, go ahead stop the counting in Arizona. Just go with what we got, Biden wins.

Biden is likely winning Georgia by a very slim margin. A new bulk of Fulton county votes narrowed the gap to 15k, there’s still about 65k VBM from urban county, he’ll lead with the next update

R241 Trump cultists “supporting” their leader to the inevitable end.

Deplorables strike again. This thing that happened in Maricopa county just now reminds me of the "Brooks Brothers" riot in Florida during the recount in 2000.

R242 I’ve not seen that reported anywhere.

[quote] Eldergays: were the Gore/GWB election this anxiety ridden? I mean we've going for almost 24 hrs already

It was worse, for a number of reasons.

First of all, it was unprecedented in living memory. There had been times when it had gone far into the night before, but it never had remained undecided the next day.

Second, the networks had almost all called Florida for Gore on Election Night, and then reversed themselves overnight. So you went to bed thinking Gore had it in the bag, only to discover in the morning you were wrong.

And the recount took weeks, not just a few days.

Does anyone have links to live feeds or boards of humiliated Trump voters reacting/mourning their loss? I'm not interested in them shouting or protesting at poll booths, but more footage of them crying and realizing their world is unraveling.

Last AZ dump (sorry to that poster) of the night delayed by 30 mins to 11pm AZ time. So another 35 mins to go.

Poll workers being escorted to their cars by police because of the Trumptards outside

If that crowd at Maricopa was wearing BLM shirts, the cops would have beat them dead. But they're white, so instead they're allowed to stay and interrupt the counting of votes.

Paul Gosar in the crowd at AZ count, whipping people up. Despicable.

Trumpeters are like Jones Town. I dont mind if they drink the Kool-Aid.

Their flavor of choice was grape.

Trumpetr's flavor is bitter grapes.

Live footage of Nevada working on those ballots

Toddlers scream and shout and eventually get over it.

Kayleigh is telling cult members they still have a path.

They really are psychotic.

I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve who can't sleep. The minutes are like hours! I refuse to miss this historic moment on live TV when Trump loses.

You know it’s over when Rudy is sent to Philadelphia to allege widespread cheating. It’s comical and so desperate.

R254 I’m with you! Luckily for me, I’m on the West Coast so it’s not as late here to wait.

Can someone tell me when the last time we distributed electoral college votes? According to this, Dem states have been undercounted for some years now.

If we're going to keep this fucked up system, shouldn't it at least be distributed properly?

Riot in Portland, National Guard mobilised

Man arrested for throwing a Molotov cocktail at police. Seized a rifle with full ammunition magazine, multiple additional magazines, an improvised explosive device, and wearing a tactical vest with ballistic plates.

Proud Boy?

This Phil Mattingly guy seems like a real prick; the type who thinks he's the smartest person in the room. The way he says something like, "30,000 vote difference", then repeats it with a tone of, "Do you UNDERSTAND? 30,000 VOTES!". I have to go back to obnoxipus Kornacki on MSNBC. I want to punch him.

R246 - and you forget how they threw thousands of people off of voting registration in Florida due to 'errors'. In Dem areas of course.

The 2000 election was the beginning of the end. Everyone knew it didn't feel right - except Republicans.

Perdue up by 50.1%, previously 50.2%. Need 49.9%.

So AP just reported update in GA—98% and Biden is now behind by ~26,000. Who is the person who has reported a net GAIN of 16,000 an hour ago????

Follow up to R258, photos of items seized - Dead Tyrant Society sticker on the rifle, seems to be a militia type group

When the networks announce Biden as the winner by Friday, what are the deportables going to do? Riot?

R213, yes. If you read the twitter feed at the link, a lot of people are talking about how Las Vegas is practically a part of California now. One compared it to the Central Valley of California, which is kind of unfair, because it least it has the strip. The Central Valley is boring as hell.

You can imagine how pissed off calling it “California” makes the old timers that were born here, but it’s true.

R262, is that good news? I don’t get the 16,000 thing.

FFS Arizona

[quote]According to @NicoleValdesTV who is on the ground, Maricopa has pushed back to closer to 11:30PM AZ because of "exporting result delays"

I just took my eyes off the TV for half an hour, what the hell happened to GA and AZ?

"what are the deportables going to do? Riot?"

I look forward to seeing overweight Patti-Ann in her flip-flops and chipped toenail polish waddling down the street for half a block before she gets winded by trying to walk AND demand Trump be named "preznet".

[quote]Kayleigh is telling cult members they still have a path.

Kayleigh also told cult members on Tuesday that Trump would beat Biden in "a landslide." Sure, Kayleigh.

What happened R268?

Kayleigh left the real world for Trump world a long time ago.

I used to watch that bitch on CNN back in 2016.

Someone said there’s been another dump in GA? CNN is not showing it that I can see.

And in AZ, Trumpy nut jobs seem to be wanting to scare people away from counting.

[quote] Second, the networks had almost all called Florida for Gore on Election Night, and then reversed themselves overnight. So you went to bed thinking Gore had it in the bag, only to discover in the morning you were wrong.

Shit, I forgot about that part. Waking up to that like a nightmare or bad joke.

R264, yes but it will be the most idiotic riot ever. They are an unfocused mess just trying to whip up confusion and disorder.

Right now they are in AZ screaming "count the votes!" at people who are... counting the votes.

I would love it if one of the poll workers came out and starting chanting at them "we ARE counting the votes!"

Holy fuck that Chris Cuomo story lmaoooo

Why haven't Fox and AP retracted their calls for AZ for Biden?

Why should they?

CNN just said that Kayleigh was on another network saying that mail in ballots should all be thrown away. Why? What’s your legal argument? Democratic votes should be thrown away, “because”?

Seriously, what attorney thinks that’s a legal argument that’s going to hold up in court? What judge is going to say, sure, throw hundreds of thousands of ballots away because the losing guy says so?

Covid Barbie is not even a real person. That's almost the most insulting thing. Trump allows children like Jared, Hope and Dumb bitch run out country. They thinks is funny. Fuck them all in the cunt.

Yes, Pigeon Headed Whore, throw out Oregon and Washington, who have been doing mail in for over a decade. Brainless Bint!

R276 what story?

r279, the said thing is....Kayleigh IS an attorney.

R279 can you believe she went to Harvard?

Dammit, I meant the sad thing is...she's an attorney.

So does Harvard just let anyone in?

They let in Elle Woods

Is it back to the hoe stroll for Melania if he loses?

R278 Im not saying they should. I'm saying they must know something if they're not bothering to retract it.

Please welcome to the stage: MARICOPA BUCKET

R288, Melania will take her kid and get out. She'll marry whatever the equivalent of Ari Onassis is these days, likely an oligarch.

I bet he’ll divorce Melania. She’s very old for Trump, Howard Stern has said.

It's strange - Kayleigh transferred from the University of Miami law school to Harvard Law. WHAT? How the hell does that happen without some kind of intervention of some kind?

She went from a Tier 3 school to the top law school in the country? Seems fishy - although she has solid undergraduate credentials from Georgetown and some study at Oxford.

She realized she wasn't going to get on air at Fox so she went to law school. ?? Who does that?

Chris Cuomo keeps getting really excited every time he mentions that Trump could still win.

Maybe he’ll marry Ho Hicks

I'm repulsed by Covid Barbie and Covid Hore.

The BBC has an article about Biden and tRump, and Biden was hot!

I wonder if any of the losers who work in his administration will grovel and try to be accepted back into decent society after trump loses. I hope nobody shows any of them mercy.

What will become of Ho Hicks? Seriously.

Why isn’t it bigger news that usps denied a judge order to sweep for 300,000 ballots postmarked nov. 3.? The update is that the hiss fe may depose Louis De Joy and “re-ordered” two sweeps in Texas, but what about the rest of the country?

R299, Ho Hicks will fuck as many billionaires as possible. she will try to land one.

R282 I assumed more people were watching , but he told this crazy ass story of when he was at ABC (19 hrs ago) and he was doing a story about his net worth, and he brought a lawsuit against, him , HIS PARENTS, and in the actually papers said something like “I’m suing him from the womb” (his justification for suing his mother).

No one else saw that??

I saw scumptrump Jr. on tv tonight yelling about Democrats being frauds and cheaters. Considering how much the trump family projects, I'm pretty sure they're the ones committing the fraud in this election. In fact they have with all their voter suppression etc.

Just the fact that those scum are calling names and accusing Democrats of all their sins is so disgusting. It's unbelievable to me that half the electorate voted for those assholes. America has become a sorry place indeed.

[quote] mobilised

R258 FYI, it's spelled as mobilized in the US

This is the AP count. They tend to be ahead of MSNBC, at least.

It's a shame. If Trump had just been semi decent in handling COVID or appearing to take it seriously, he would have won by large margins. That was all the left had to run on and it's on a razor's edge. This would have been an easy win for him. There was no blue wave. The country is literally divided right down the middle.

R302, I'm almost positive I heard Cuomo tell that story before.

I remember when Gore's win was reversed. He would have been an awesome president. Early believer in climate change, smart and measured. George W was more palatable than trump but he made a mess of things in the end. We would be in a much better place now if Gore became president. Democrats are too nice, he didn't even contest the unfair judgement.

[quote]It's a shame. If Trump had just been semi decent in handling COVID or appearing to take it seriously, he would have won by large margins

Yeah, it's a real fucking shame Trump didn't win by large margins. What this country really needed was four more years of that mental case in the White House.

[quote]It's a shame. If Trump had just been semi decent in handling COVID or appearing to take it seriously, he would have won by large margins

LMFAO Trump has never run ANYTHING well.

R282, I wasn’t paying attention so I missed part of it, but it sounded like Cuomo’s parents got sued by Trump because of his negative Trump reporting. Just Trump throwing his weight around, trying to intimate Cuomo and his family. Cuomo said, they were trying to sue me back into the womb.

It would be unbelievable if it wasn’t Trump, but he’s famous for just randomly suing anybody he wants to shut up.

Al Gore? He likes massages so much that his wife divorced him. I think she dumped him, can't remember. He likes happy endings.

I think had djt worn a mask from the beginning, he would have won the election. All because he was afraid of not looking manly enough.

R305 98 percent is reported on that. How can he gain over 25k votes to get ahead at this point?

[quote]He likes happy endings.

Can you blame him? He deserved a happy ending.

[quote] LMFAO Trump has never run ANYTHING well.

Half the country seems disagrees otherwise this wouldn't be such a nail biter.

Oh please, half the country just wants to own the libs

"he was afraid of not looking manly enough".

Manly enough? With his pancake makeup, bouffant, and cha-cha heels. 👠

Oh FOR FUCKS SAKE ARIZONA 2: Electric Boogaloo

[quote]OH NOES! Just got a text that they are still reviewing the audit logs. It could be another 30 minutes!!!!!

[quote]MARICOPA NOT INCOMING

[quote]This is not a joke. They are not ready over there yet.

[quote]Half the country seems disagrees otherwise this wouldn't be such a nail biter.

Apparently you aren't aware of how the popular vote went.

R291, FLOTITS has so trashed the reputation of the First Lady that she can’t get the kind of high dollar second husband Jackie got. She’s nothing special.

She’d probably end up as a sheik’s concubine or a third world dictator’s fourth wife or something. Maybe Kim Jung Un has a vacancy.

TIME TO STATE THE UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTH:

With the Repubs controlling the Senate, Biden will be an utter lame duck president. There will just be four more years of complete gridlock.

If you think you're frustrated now, wait till 2024! If you don't already have one, best find a hobby or project to keep yourself occupied, so you can live in a bubble and forget reality.

[quote] Apparently you aren't aware of how the popular vote went.

Apparently you aren't aware that the popular vote means absolutely nothing and it looks like there is potential for fraud regardless

r257 Electoral votes aren't "distributed." They're based on the number of congressional representatives and senators for each state. Redistricting of the states and increasing or decreasing the size of their delegation in the House happens every 10 years when the census is completed.

Perdue at 50.07.

Biden just 28,000 behind in Georgia.

This is the one I've been watching the most, and Trump's numbers have barely budged while Biden keeps inching up and up. On MSNBC last hour they had an interview with somebody at the Fulton county voting center, and she said they were still about 100,000 ballots outstanding in the state.

[quote]Apparently you aren't aware that the popular vote means absolutely nothing and it looks like there is potential for fraud regardless

You missed the point, Svetlana. "Half the country" doesn't support Trump. Neither do half the voters.

If Melania wouldn't charge so much for anal she might have more suiters.

I take it back, Trump is good at some things. He's good at losing. Losing 450 million of his father's money. Losing a Billion in the casino business, losing at his 1st and 2nd marriage probably the 3rd. Losing to a dancer/hooker over 150,000 dollars and she still went public. Losing with a fake college to the tune of 24 million dollars, Losing an election after only 4 years, losing, losing, losing. Yeah he's good at that.

R322 that's what Midterms are for.

You know what, r322? After these last four years, I will gladly take grid lock instead of hearing "last night, President Trump tweeted..." Every time I turn on the news.

[quote]For four years Donald Trump has proven himself a corrupt, mendacious ignoramus utterly unfit for the position he holds...And yet, the current tally shows him beating his showing from 2016 by 3.7 million votes. So please, Democrats...You are not destined to prevail anywhere. You share a country with a large group of people who hate your guts, and who aren't going to submit to your rule or go along with your giddy plans to remake the nation in your image. It's time to start acting like you understand this implacable fact and all it implies about the limits of your power and the parameters of the possible.

Did we just lose Arizona?

I think that is the wrong attitude to take R322. Mitch isn't going to just roll over and allow Biden to do whatever he wants, but at the same time I think people underestimate the clubby nature of the Senate and Biden's ability to work the Senate. He's not VP anymore, he will, hopefully, be the head dude and he will have the ability to cut deals that he couldn't make as VP.

I just think it's a mistake to go into this thing with a defeatist attitude.

I'm tired of seeing Democrats upset because it was not a blow out. A win is a win, no matter how you get it and no matter big it is. If you assume the worst, you're gonna get the worst. And maybe that is a little Pollyanna on my part. But there is nothing wrong with a little hope.

Yes, Arizona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just want to say - you're all wonderful. Day to day on DL we get SUPER bitchy and have disagreements, flame wars, cat fights and on and on.

But, this site is massively more good than bad. I take all that with a grain of salt.

R331 The dems don't fucking understand that playing nice will never fucking work. Rethugs hate us and don't give a shit about trying to be nice with them play dirty just like rethugs, grow a fucking pair of balls.

R331 The dems don't fucking understand that playing nice will never fucking work. Rethugs hate us and don't give a shit about trying to be nice with them play dirty just like rethugs, grow a fucking pair of balls.

[quote]I think that is the wrong attitude to take [R322]

Sorry, but you have to have a short memory if you don't remember the years of gridlock under Clinton due to the same problem.

R322, I disagree. While it is preferable that we won the Senate, there are midterms in two years. We need to make up ground then. Also, Biden will appoint a superior cabinet, filled with experts, scientists, and smart people who will right the wrongs made by trump toadies. We will rejoin the Climate Accord, science will be respected, and relations with allies will be rebuilt. Also, Biden has always worked across the aisle. It's possible he can get votes from repukes that trump would not because everyone is afraid of him.

I don't care how much a challenge it will be, I will sleep at night with Biden in office. trump is a never ending nightmare.

r332 r334 What the hell are you talking about?

Can't Biden use his veto power to stop some of the more egregious McConnell plans?

Why would he have to, r341? The House is democratic.

F11 Fuck you, Hillary! Stop blaming Bernie for everything. He had 2 primaries stolen from him. He should be president not Joe Biden who has dementia. Joe just called his granddaughter "Beau" and then tried to correct himself by calling her by his other granddaughter's name and not her name. But Joe is a million times better than Trump w/ dementia.

I've warmed up to Kamala. I prefer her to Joe since she supports a fracking ban and Medicare for All.

You're being naive R337. I presume you're very young. Unless you intend to trash democracy, and burn down the Capital building, at the end of the day, playing nice or nasty has little to do with it. If the opposition controls the Senate, you need to work with them on THEIR terms.

So, what do you recommend, rlR338? That we hop in our time machine and change our votes to allow Trump's unchecked Fascism destroy our future?

Getting right on it. Thanks!

@SethAbramson · 7m NOTE: There are 70,000+ votes left to count in Georgia, with Biden down by 23,000. Biden is performing *above* the level he needs to perform at—in these last tranches of ballots—to win Georgia. Both the NYT and FiveThirtyEight have framed Biden as the *favorite* to win the state.

Nice!

Can anybody make out what this woman is screeching about? (think she's a furious Trumpster having a breakdown)

If Biden gets NV, AZ, PA, and GA, he'll be at 306.

And, R304? What’s your point? There are many words in the English language which the USA spells differently to the rest of the English speaking world.

Are you saying that we shouldn’t contribute to this thread? That’s rather parochial of you.

Or are you saying that we should adopt USA standard spelling on the DL in order to avoid offending your delicate sensibilities? Sorry precious - not doing that!

Bernie Sanders is a useless asshole who didn't have shit stolen from him.... the fucker can't win shit.

To give you an idea of what's going on in Pennsylvania: the Vote PA website for some reason is a little bit behind the AP website.

In that gap, Joe Biden gained 20,000 votes, while Trump gained 9,000. That's a 69% margin.

Joe is now down 173,000. Assuming 600,000 outstanding ballots, that would give Joe roughly 400,000 to Trump's 200,000 (if the margin holds). He will win PA.

R322, I would consider it a massive win if Joe Biden sat at his desk and sharpened pencils for four years.

No Trump, no Ivanka, no Melania, no Kushner, no entourage of evil geniuses (Barr) and evil dolts (everyone else in his inner circle) would be enough for me at this point.

LOL r353. And no more endless TWEETING 24/7. Praise Jesus.

[quote]Daddy's feeling blue, Vanky. Come sit in Daddy's lap.

Oh daddy, are you happy to see me or is that a match in your pocket?

R331 the Left?

We've never had a real Left like other first world countries and never will.

"There is only one party in the United States , the Property Party and it has two Right wings - The Republicans and the Democrats."

- Gore Vidal

The next asshole who insists we still have to win AZ is going to get my foot up his ass.

We really need AZ.

Joe down 164,000 in PA

WE HAVE IT

Read the room, r357. That's not such a big threat in these parts. 😁

Omg Phil Mattingly is straight?? What the fuck is wrong with my gaydar?

Omg Phil Mattingly is straight?? What the fuck is wrong with my gaydar?

There is zero way that Dump can pick up what he needs to get to 270. Throwing a little baby temper tantrum, threatening lawsuits and spewing lies don't work for multiple states who don't want you (despite the massive amounts of cheating that he has pulled with the USPS, foreign help and generalized voter intimidation and ballot purging). He is and always was a LOSER.

Be careful, r357. With the whores on Datalounge, your might find yourself right up to the knee.

R362 well just about everyone else on CNN is at this point, it’s not such a leap.

He kind of has an attitude though. And he’s no John King.

10,000 more votes in Trumps favor tightening the race in AZ. Biden 50.5/48.1. He's meeting the threshold per batch to keep or exceed Biden.

There will be no more reporting from AZ tonight per CNN. So, clench your cheeks for AZ like you've just taken a load and need to go to the bathroom. Grab them by the pussy, Trump!

Mattingly says he’s not expecting Trump to keep up the pace with future batches, though, R367. Because vote by mail voters are more Democratic than last minute drop off votes.

Several different organizations seem to agree with Phil. I wonder if they were just being optimistic because they’re going by past history. Nobody knows what the hell this year, people could be changing their vote for the opposite party for all we know.

*Not Expecting* is the key term. I watched and he said they do not know what is next but that the remaining ballots *could* track primarily republican as they are counting the ballot drop boxes with favor R. It could go either way, but it's still in play.

Phil Mattingly is wee folk.

Phil is used to be on a reporter on Capitol Hill and maybe he's intimidated by being half a foot smaller than Cuomo

Latinos have been organizing incredibly in the Southwest. They aren't dumass Cubans. They are the reason Biden is going to win AZ and NV.

I want to watch Tucker Carlson drunkenly grudge fuck the faux earnestness out of Chris Cuomo. doggy style

wasn't there supposed to be some big announcement at 3am EST?

I am glad Arizona is a battleground state because we get to see a lot more of our favorite twink, Vaughan Hillyard, who is from Arizona.

If I understand this right - we either need Pennsylvania.

OR any two of: Arizona, Georgia, Nevada.

So if AZ craps out - there's still hope. And 50.5 to 48.1 still sounds pretty strong at this late hour.

Is the AP seeing something different in Arizona? They have had it as a Biden win since yesterday. Funny how Trump starts whining and suddenly counting slows down and, what's this, he's gaining now? Hi Russia. They know where they need to flip the switches to flip votes now.

I'm very worried about Arizona. I have no idea why there's suddenly talk about Trump clinching Arizona when AP called the state for Biden yesterday. I'm hoping on Arizona and Nevada updates today and that we can declare Biden as the winner.

CNN has rolled out FINE ASS Boris Sanchez! 🔥

Come on Joe!!! Only 6 more

R368 Fuck off and die, shitler is going down.

Somebody digging deep in the detail weeds of Nevada - and feeling hopeful?

If below is right: Even if Trump wins what's left in Maricopa (340K-62K just in) by +18% as today, & if he somehow wins Yuma by 50% (a big stretch), that nets him LESS than Biden's lead. With blue Pima/Coconino left. So he'd need: more in Maricopa, &/or more ballots than this.

In all honesty, I don't know R379. Fox called AZ for Biden very early last evening, before anyone else did. As they were getting slammed they continually had their analysts staunchly defending their decision. I don't understand it and I want it to go to Trump.

Why would the deciding states also be the ones that take the longest to count? I mean, every fucking one of them? WTH? Arizona and Nevada should have been done by now. It's like they are slowing it down on purpose. They want Pennsylvania to go first so they don't get the wrath of the Trumptards? Something seems really off about it.

Some big time cheating going on again. Did OrangeAss wire a few millions to his friends?

WOW! I thought I'd never see the USA so fucked up. I no longer have any faith in our system or its proclaimed sacred Constitution. We are worse than any third world banana republic.

Pennsylvania is trying to cheat. They changed laws in terms of when votes are due. Why change the law from 8pm the day of until Friday. It's shady.

Preach. R387. It's not the Russians. Both sides are totally fucked up and will do what it takes. Neither party gives a fuck which is why I don't the blind alliances.

Them holding off the final states for so long makes no fucking sense, why? Like why tf Nevada taking two days off to fucking count them. Why the fuck are they dragging this so fucking long? Just makes no sense.

WHY you ask? Here>Money!MONEY, more Money$$$$$$$$$$$. The USA goes to the highest bidder.. The level of GREED is beyond the stratosphere. The USA is a high priced whore. You see...right now cash/cryptocurrency is changing hands.

Go look at the Absentee Votes for President section on this page for Nevada. Trump has 900 and Biden has 92. They must have only counted one little area of the absentee vote so far, like a trailer park or something.

Or maybe like...it's taking a long time because it takes time to count 65 million absentee ballots. This year is slower because it's different, people don't usually vote by mail at this rate.

Also, good old media whores need to run more commercials - so just you wait another two days glued to your choice of profit-generating "news" channel.

The other states all had huge numbers of absentee/mail-in ballots, too. They were able to count them up in a manner that got to a result that didn't make it look as suspicious as shit.

Jesus, you guys. This is too fucking much for me. Yet ANOTHER night going to bed at 12:30am worried about the date of the country/world.

The AZ thing has me feeling sick. The hope for GA seems to be fading. God only knows what will happen in PA at this rate, with the Simpleton in the White House taking it to court. I wish I was just dumb, and didn't give a shit.

Believe me, I'm not a concern troll. I HATE Trump and his idiot supporters with every fiber of my being.

This just sucks.

@Taniel What we know, 3:00am EST 11/5.

Biden needs 17 EVs out of NV (6), AZ (11), GA (16), PA (2), (NC 15)

—NV: up 6K: more tmrw.

—AZ: up 68K. To offset Pima/Cococino, Trump will need more than he got today in Maricopa.

—GA: down 22K. 10s of 1000s mail left. Tight.

—PA: down 164K. 100s of 1000s mail left.

PA has 20 EVs, not 2 duh

I believe Joe will manage to get some Republicans on his side and that will diminish McConnell's power in the Senate. After the Trump defeat, Republicans will be more eager to do the bipartisan thing again.

Gosh...Putin must be creaming his pants. Look at all the stupid American sheeple act like animals. Good thing it's a spectator sport!

[quote]Putin must be creaming his pants.

Pics please.

R395 Some of the states had an order to not start counting votes until election day, including Pennsylvania. Blame the rethugs.

I understand the volume is unprecedented, but there has to be some improvements on this process. Days and days of counting and counting is unacceptable. Pennsylvania in particular is egregious; and having lived there, I know how backward they are about everything.

But kudos to all those volunteers plowing through this.

Shut the fuck up, R396. God. I bet you have zero friends because you’re constantly whining about shit.

Mail in ballots should have been counted as they came in. They would have been close to caught up by election night.

I think the media should ignore protests. It will only spread if they keep focusing on it. We know FOX will keep a live streaming cam on it all- and Trump will tweet the on- but please don't walk into the trap of covering a bunch of paid Republican operatives bused-in to cause chaos.

Whose decision was it in PA not to count the mail-in ballots until Election Day?

R405 - the Trump cult GOP fought that in states where they could because he wanted to look victorious the night of and claim that any votes that were counted after were fraudulent (even though they were as valid as any others). Tons of attorneys and court filings (if you were keeping up during the days leading to the election). Again, states have their own voting laws and many were not amended in time to properly prepare for a mass pandemic. The states that normally handle a large volume of mail-in and absentee obviously were better prepared this year.

[quote]Whose decision was it in PA not to count the mail-in ballots until Election Day?

R407, that was the Republican state legislature.

Ugh. This is nerve wracking.

I wonder what will happen to the hundreds of thusands "missing" mail-in ballots in Texas and Florida? Maybe if they were counted Biden would win those states too.

If we're the next to worst among democracies, I wonder who's even worse?

@DiEM_25 · Nov 3 "With the US second-to-last for electoral integrity amongst liberal democracies, we need to turn our attention to the democratic deficit within the EU." -- @DiEM_25 group Peace and International Policy #USAElections2020

Joe only needs 6 more electoral votes to win and that is the amount in Nevada where he is leading. By my tally, even if Trump takes all of the other hanging states he won't reach 270. Is this correct?

Is that assuming Arizona holds, R413, or has there been another "dump" that proves Biden won AZ?

Correct. There is no way for Trump to win.

But to your question, YES - he needs 17 (including Arizona) -- or he needs 17 some other way (like Pennsylvania, which by itself is 20, etc.)

Don't you love how Trump is confused and thinks "dump" means somebody is dumping his votes in the trashcan?

R414, because the majority of uncounted ballots in AZ are absentee from Maricopa and Pima counties, they are not expected to break for Trump in the manner the set counted earlier did. Hence Fox nor AP changing their call. While Trump will get close, there appear to be not enough votes for him to win AZ.

Biden will lose NV and AZ. Fox News will look so stupid after this.

Does anyone have a link to the electoral college?

Nice that the first post of the day I've read is from a troll (r419)

Yes, #420. It's called Google.

Trump hasn't been seen since his bogus victory speech last night. Hunkering down with the lawyers? Binge-eating? Begging Putin to help and promising him the world?

I believe the Republicans forcing the absentee and mail-in ballots to count last will blow up in their faces, because if they had been counted first Putin's hackers would've known how to mess with the voting results to give PA to Trump. Same goes for other states with their the mail-in, absentee, and drop-off boxes votes.

Mr Trump make big shit in Oval Office bathroom. He shitty pants.

Yup, I believe the sole reason they are so pissed is because they CANNOT hack mailed in ballots. To halt or attempt to halt those votes is a travesty and treasonous. He needs to be impeached, AGAIN, if he keeps this up.

I just woke up and realized GA, NV, PA, and NC have still not been called.

Will we know about PA today? When Biden wins PA, it's game over, right? (Sorry if this was discussed upthread.)

[quote]I think the media should ignore protests. It will only spread if they keep focusing on it.

Are you under some delusion that the Democratic party supports the censorship of the media?

When the outstanding ballots for Allegheny and Philadelphia counties are counted, I would expect Biden to be in the lead by 80,000 - 100,000 votes....

If only there was a magical machine that would tell R427 when the polls will be counted. Try Google.

R427 Yes, with 20 electoral votes, PA would put Biden over...

That's brilliant, #424. Putin absolutely wanted his American dictator to "win" again.

I wish Biden would appoint a Hacking Czar to head a dept. that would constantly monitor foreign interference. Hacking is the warfare of the future. The right hack could turn off our electricity and plunge the country into months of crime, death and starvation.

And Putin did pick our President in 2016.

Thanks r431

Brilliant, r13!

[quote]“In a democracy, someone who fails to get elected to office can always console himself with the thought that there was something not quite fair about it.”

For Pennsyltucky (whose population keeps shrinking, for some reason) the earliest is... Friday.

40,000 ballots were rejected in Dekalb County. You can still fix your ballot by Friday!! Call 888-730-5816 for the GA protection hotline! Pls retweet to get the word out.

40,000? WTF?

2016 result( (originally): Trump 306 vs. Hillary 232

2020 result (likely, once it is done): Trump 232 vs. Biden 306

The map (solid shades are party holds; light shades are pickups):

Fucking vile trash.

The old lady with the face shield. I wonder at the mind that would adopt such a measure and then be shoulder to shoulder in a protest looking for what, exactly? Unsigned ballots to jump out of the box screaming?

Vile, STUPID trash.

The irony of these protesters in AZ is that ... Trump is BEHIND in the state. The only way for him to win there is for election officials to count MORE ballots, not less.

Which results/reports can we expect today? I guess Pennsylvania is not likely, they would probably need the weeked too. But what about Georgia? Nevada? Arizona? Could we expect any of them today? Is Georgia even likely at this point? Last I read Trump was ahead by some thousand votes and there aren't many left to count.

R441 - Trumptards are hardly known to be the sharpest knives in the drawer... LOL

R440 She wants Trump to know that she also wears "Bronx" orange foundation. I'm not sure what's going on with the woman next to her. She has brown circles on her face.

R437 is spreading disinformation; Snopes investigated the claim and reports that 3k ballots were rejected in the entire state of Georgia

And DeKalb County had only 200 uncountable ballots, and the county reports that is directly contacting those voters by phone or overnight mail.

Trump could win by a hair. It’s going to get ugly.

Dave Wasserman said late last night that he is still confident that Biden will win PA.

Wasserman said "This isn't a nail-biter, imo."

They look like my dogs staring at me through the patio door when I have to put them outside so I can mop or something.

The corrupt trash of a GOP party will try to steel anything that we let them get away with - even in multiple states. I hope that Biden's legal team is ready. That said, if Biden takes as many states as I think he can and will (if they haven't already been able to tamper with the ballots), we should be good. How many states can you try to steal? Still, they will likely try.

steel = steal

I think he wins PA and AZ and game over r450

Georgia is extremely close ...that would be Florida again in 2000. So Biden needs Pennsylvania to win it.

How Arizona poll workers verify signatures featuring cute reporter. For Trumptards, you are counting too slow and checking properly = fraud, you are counting too fast = fraud.

We’re gonna end up with a second Trump term.

Just checking in for the first time today, looks like Biden is ahead by enough in AZ that he'll probably take it:

Arizona election results (Estimated >99% in)

Biden 1,469,341 50.5% (+2.4)

Trump 1,400,951 48.1%

Biden leads with 69k

And with Biden taking Arizona, what is he up to?

Nate Silver Says Fox News and AP Projections For Biden in Arizona ‘Should Be Retracted Now’

I'm no longer interested in what Nate Silver says about anything.

If Trump wins AZ then they can retract their projection then.

Nate Silver can go spend the money he earned by pissing all over the election on rent boys and never darken our doorstep again, the fat, bald loser.

I cannot block trolls on these threads fast enough. It's like Whac-a-Troll. Block one and then five more pop up.

The key word in the stories about those protests is "dozens"

As in probably no more than 50-100 people

The craziest of the crazies.

If they didn't project properly to get enough workers to get it done by the end of Wednesday- why didn't they bring more in? FAIL.

They're trying to prevent Biden from declaring victory.

Tomorrow morning we'll still be typing, "97% counted in Nevada!".

R442, I think PA will be called (for Biden) on 11/06, but not 100% finalized until 11/11, after the overseas ballots are received and counted (there won't be enough to offset a Biden lead).

Dim Son Eric and Ghouliani can bleat all they want, but PA will count all the ballots, it isn't "fraud," and Biden/Harris will prevail.

As will Democracy.

And the voting is over. Trump can dementedly rant about China, Hunter, laptops, Hillary, emails, dishwashers and toilets, and anything else the voices in his head tell him, but on January 20, 2021, he, the First Escort, Beavis, Butthead, and Vanky are outta there, and his drug-cartel wall around the White House is coming down.

Let the fumigation begin!

Nate Silver is not a pollster, he doesn't control what the polls say. He is easy to attack but blame all the polling companies who again failed the capture Trump's level of support.

I didn't say Nate Silver was a pollster, R465, nor did I say anything about pollsters. Nate Silver is a commentator along with everything else he does, and I'm no longer interested in his commentary about this or any election. If that hurts your feelings, I don't care.

Dave Catanese of McClatchey DC says a "well-wired" Democrat in Georgia is expecting the remaining votes to give Biden a very small lead, and it'll probably go to recount because of the tiny margin.

Will we know today?

When even Fox News anchors are done with your bullshit...

"the polling companies who again failed the capture Trump's level of support" = Dejoy's unaccounted for missing mail-in ballots and the conveniently hacked tallies in just the right counties

Ugh, Biden is down 18540 votes in Georgia with fewer than 25000 votes left to count.

GA has no automatic recounts but if the margin is less than 0.5% a recount can be requested.

Nevada is announcing at noon EST r468.

If you believe Arizona is a done deal, that would cinch it. I would think Fox and AP would have no choice but to call the race.

I don't know the PA schedule, their updating really slowed overnight so we will see how fast they can count enough absentee ballots. I think once Biden takes the lead there people will be ready to call it.

Update to R471: apparently there's something like 60,000 votes counted but not yet reported in GA plus 25,000 to be counted, so that means more like 85,000 votes that need to be reported.

That's better news.

fingers crossed r472

Isn’t what is left to count from Nevada mail in ballots from Clark county? Wouldn’t that be almost all Democratic?

Jon Ralston said that there's about 100K votes left to count in Nevada, some rurals but more urban votes.

Jesus Christ, I'm completely shorted out at this point. I can't take any more waiting.

GIVE MY DAUGHTER THE SHOT!

I don’t understand trolls here- lying about things we can easily check is stupid. Being a downer isn’t working because facts are easily checked.

Biden has this.

Georgia to give new numbers at 11. Nevada at noon? Are they Pacific time?

Georgia to give new numbers at 11. Nevada at noon? Are they Pacific time?

Even if Biden doesn't have AZ and GA, he's almost certainly got NV, and that's all he needs.

The media isn't talking at all about the growing and alarming Covid numbers. Expecting them to multi-task is too much apparently.

Except the New York Times r482, which is positively SCREAMING about it?

R481 He needs NV and AZ to get to 270 without PA or GA

[quote] Even if Biden doesn't have AZ and GA, he's almost certainly got NV, and that's all he needs.

Nope. The number you're seeing for his EV is including AZ. If you take that away, he needs 17.

"[R437] is spreading disinformation; Snopes investigated the claim and reports that 3k ballots were rejected in the entire state of Georgia"

I copied a tweet and brought it here - sorry! And thank you for clearing that up!!

Isn’t PA still going to go for Biden and “not even be particularly close?” Did that suddenly change overnight?

Ossoff is on the verge of pulling off a re-count and with other Democrat out, he could pull off a win in January.

Well, if they're gonna go for him, they'd better hurry the fuck up, because he's 150K votes behind. I think Biden's best chance is AZ/NV (since everyone is now saying AZ is not a done deal, which pisses me off).

Everything I've read indicates Biden will win PA and that it won't be particularly close, r489, although I don't know the details RE the math.

There's a reason Rudy and Eric showed up there yesterday. They see the writing on the wall.

Sorry R484, you're right, I forgot the 264 was including those two states.

[quote]Trump could win by a hair. It’s going to get ugly.

If it involve Trump's "hair", OF COURSE it's going to get ugly.

R481 I think he needs Pennsylvania too, but he's likely to win it.

I needed this laugh so badly.

^ Sorry, meant to just post the video:

I'm chuckling at how dead this thread is as opposed to last night. It was super hopping. I mean, clearly there's nothing happening overnight, but I'm still anxious and appreciate the company!

I'm kicking myself for taking a break from all this for several hours, because I'm having a hell of a time piecing all this together.

Trump is demanding some states stop counting, while other states keep counting, right?

Biden is down about 150K in PA but there's 600K left to count, most mail-in and urban ballots?

" I think he needs Pennsylvania too, but he's likely to win it."

No, even without Pennsylvania, he just needs 17 ev's. Arizona plus Nevada = 17.

(Georgia is 16 and could substitute for either one -- and if Biden did win Pennsylvania, that's all he would need because it has 20 ev's)

The states who are still counting votes should call in more people.

This really is like waiting for medical test results or if you're getting a check up and the doctor makes some kind of weird comment that sends your mind racing. I just want this to be over. 2020 has been such a shit stain of a year, why are the gods making us scrape for little crumbs of positivity?

Forgot the link - this site has already given Biden Arizona but you can see the map and how many votes each state has (and who has them so far, except he - and others - may have jumped the gun on AZ)

R496, maybe they decided to get a few hours of sleep or they are getting ready for work.

R498 I know, but Arizona is not won yet. It can get unbearably close there. Trump might even pull off a win.

Oh I see R503. When you said he needed Pennsylvania "too" I thought you meant in addition to AZ/NV.

This is so crazy. All because some Republican legislatures wouldn't let their states count the absentee ballots as they came in.

We need those UN observers, like they send to 3rd world countries to oversee elections.

That page is shit, R501. They basically have Trump already at 268 as though GA, NC and PA are already decided, with Nevada tied (which is also bullshit).

Let’s seal the deal today, baby!!

MSNBC and CNN are reporting that Joe has 253 electoral votes while the AP reports 264. WTF?

Yeah it's so fucked up. I think he's trying to predict the end-result - the date he has, like on PA, which he's given to Trump, is November 10.

Oh well, used to be a good resource. Now it's useless (other than telling you how many ev's each state has and I'm sure there's better maps)

R507 AP has given Biden Arizona (so did Fox News).

MSNBC and CNN have never called it for Biden.

So that explains the 11 point difference.

R507, MSNBC Has not called Arizona for Biden yet like everyone else has.

Does anyone feel like AZ, NV and GA are being a bit attention-whorish? Could they not have already released the numbers already? Oh, but no, they have to have some grand press conference so they get to be the state that calls the election.

[quote] [R496], maybe they decided to get a few hours of sleep or they are getting ready for work.

Oh for sure. I just meant that compared to last night when there was so much more, I don't know, universal urgency to everything, people were still up and glued to their screens. That's definitely dissipated tonight. But I'm wide awake because I slept most of the day. I'm not usually up and on here at this hour. : )

The AP call for Arizona is controversial. Many election analysts think it was premature. But they aren’t backing down and the AP is never wrong. So we’ll see.

But none of them can on their own, R511, so if that's what they're waiting for, it's the worst game of chicken ever.

I decided to Google if AP has ever made a call wrong, R513 and of course here was the answer.

I really really really really really hope we see a Biden victory speech today

My nerves are shot

Same r516

What shit is Trump gonna pull today? It looks good for Biden but I still feel uneasy. We may see violence tonight. Those deplorables were scary in AZ last night.

Yikes, Georgia is close. Trump only has 18,000 more votes than Biden.

Well, R 515, they could have been correct in the first place. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump supporters storm one or more of the ballot counting centers and destroy ballots, so no result can be determined. That's why it's so important that some states change their election counting procedures. There's no reason that early ballots could not be counted before election day.

I must also get on my soap box about voting once again. Democrats if you vote in every election, things like the PA State Legislature would not happen and they would have started counting much earlier.

[Quote] Trump only has 18,000 more votes than Biden.

BYE Georgia!

I went to bed and woke up and we are at the same totals? I thought Arizona was gonna be in.

All Biden needs now is Nevada. That will get him to 270.

There is drama and confusion about how many absentee ballots are actually left in PA. Which I don't like, that number is important.

However so far generally the number has been higher than we realized, so I am going to wait before believing the low estimate some are saying.

The Rev said it would be fitting if George was the state to send Biden to the WH. I agree, the African Americans would gain justice.

Hopefully Arizona and Nevada can be called today. That is all Biden needs.

Georgia not George.

Cut The Rev shit. No one cares what that antisemetic low IQ pos has to say.

Hi George!

r529 who/what is "the Rev"?

Can we just call Nevada for Biden, run the Trumps out, and get on with life? Please?

It would be wonderful if Biden could get ABOVE 270 just to stick the knife in a little further.

Pennsylvania I'm looking at you! Joe is your native son so work your magic!

The two most reliable callers Fox and AP have called Arizona days ago. It’s not controversial except for the networks still trying make this a horse race. Biden has Arizona. Nevada needs to be called today. Frankly, ALL the fucking remaining states need to get their shit together. This is fucking ridiculous. FINISH THIS.

R526 Not as fittng as Arizona and the Mccains doing it today! They will end future Trump presidency movie/tv shows with that.

They need to hurry up

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What a shit show.

Jon Ralston @RalstonReports · 19s Good morning from the #WeMatter state.

T-minus three and a half hours until new numbers released in Nevada, where Joe Biden has a 7,500-vote lead.

About to go on "Morning Joe."

Caffeine drip inserted, but coherence level is questionable.

We knew deplorables would think it was rigged if Trump lost. The good thing is that it doesn’t fucking matter what they feel. I remember deplorables making fun of liberals for crying when Hillary lost. Turns out they’re the bigger babies.

You know it rankles Trump that this supporters are trash like r537

R525 In my county alone (Allegheny, which contains the Biden-voting city of Pittsburgh), there were 30,000 misprinted mail-in ballots sent out to people. Recipients were asked to discard them and wait to receive corrected ballots. Those 30,000 people have until Friday to return their ballots.

So yeah, third world, banana republic shitshow all around.

[quote]We knew deplorables would think it was rigged if Trump lost. The good thing is that it doesn’t fucking matter what they feel.

Deplorables do not "feel".

Or think.

My understanding is that they do, however, defecate.

Gorgeous bitch slap this morning from Allison Cammarata interviewing Adam Kinzinger. She read tweets from Trump yesterday which had a bunch of hereby and forthwith. She asked does 17th century language make something true? Kinzinger are actually busted up laughing.

So the AJC is saying there are 55k ballots to be counted in Georgia.

@FiveThirtyEight · 1m Philadelphia City Commissioners will give an update on the mail-in ballot count at around 9 a.m.

But was anything being counted last night in GA that hasn't been released?

I saw that, R545, and apparently Democrats are saying there's more like 70K with the majority in metro Atlanta and Savanna.

Ralston from last night, warning that rural votes may drop first, so don't panic ??

Jon Ralston: T-minus 12 hours until NV decides fate of free world (forget it, he's rolling). More than 100K ballots will start being counted, one county at a time. If rurals are loaded first, Biden's lead will shrink. (Cue freak out if so.) Many more votes in urbans, though. See you there!

Jon Ralston Retweeted

Riley Snyder @RileySnyder For the record, Nevada has not stopped counting ballots; county officials are still continuing to process ballots into the night, just results won't be reported until tomorrow morning. Washoe County has a livestream & it looks rather busy at 8:30 p.m.

GA's Secretary of State has just updated, saying there's 50K to be counted and that does NOT include provisionals, military, overseas, or recently "cured" (i.e. with errors fixed) ballots.

This why I won't believe low estimates of ballots left. We are still getting votes out of Michigan. Biden lead is now 2.9pts!

This why I won't believe low estimates of ballots left. We are still getting votes out of Michigan. Biden lead is now 2.9pts!

MSNBC is saying Nevada is close now. I’m getting really nervous.

My stomach is churning. The stress is mounting. I need a laugh.

There has been no update on the Nevada vote count in a long time r553. It is not new information that Nevada is currently a very slim Biden lead.

I've done nothing today except toggle between news sites and the DL, pick over the results with my friends, and down copious amounts of coffee. I'm a wreck and I'm not even American. I can't even imagine how you guys are feeling.

I need to get on with my life. Cmon Arizona and Nevada

We'll soon need a Part 10 -- are mobile-users having trouble loading this thread?

Jesus, it's really just hit me that without some luck in Nevada, we may actually have 4 more nightmarish years.

Maybe I'm misreading this but it looks like Reuters is "predicting" that Trump will win PA, GA, NC -- and Biden will get AZ and NV, barely cinching it. But are they just playing around and guessing?

Joe is going to win PA. Game over. Have patience. Turn off the news, go for a walk. Take care of yourself.

Do we have a Part 10 thread already? Can't find it

Do we have a Part 10 thread already? Can't find it

oh you have to scroll down to middle of page, far right, for the Reuters map

I don’t see trump getting PA it’s Pittsburgh and Philadelphia left to count.

Okay, here's part 10:

I can understand PA, GA, and NC taking added time.

But Nevada is not heavily populated, comparatively, and the bulk of their population is in the Las Vegas area. If it was money and chips, they would breeze through the numbers.

Their methodology is unique and is legal. They are just taking their own, sweet and casual time. The clock strikes 5pm PDT, they shut down for the day and head home.

The count is going into next week, obviously. But if PA is credibly called before a finished count, things will die down in relation to waiting for the counts to finish. The focus will turn to the courts.

Thank God. The Jon King is a hot daddy/has massive sizemeat troll must be sleeping.

R469 Isn't Kayleigh McEnany still the so-called Press Secretary. Why is she speaking as if she is spokesperson for the Trump Campaign? Isn't that a(other Hatch Act violation?

They cost Biden Texas and Florida.

I can’t believe people still watch CNN. Toxic crap.

I don’t think Biden can take Georgia. Wish I could but I’m really skeptical. It’s definitely going to come down to the absolute wire.

CNN stated that the road is clearer for Biden to get to 306 than for Trump to get to 270.

I really wish someone would take on election reform. We're never getting rid of the electoral college, but just uniform ballot counting and voting procedures for all 50 states as it relates to federal elections would be so nice.

Bringing back the Fairness Doctrine would be a good start.

R573, HR 1 is a good start. Senate of course didn't do anything with it.

R265, they also count votes post marked on Election Day. So why rush and not have all the votes together. Once they have most of the mail in ballots requested they can get in with it.

Trump is an impulsive, loudmouth prisspot that covers his lying, con man head with gobs of orange makeup and fake yellow/orange hair. Excessive paternalistic culture idiots believe that is machismo.

Welp, the only possibility silver lining in all this is that Dump and Repugs are distracted from screwing up more stuff during the lame duck season.

Welp, the only possibility silver lining in all this is that Dump and Repugs are distracted from screwing up more stuff during the lame duck season.

I wake up this morning, and nothing is much more clearer than when I went to bed at 3:00 a.m. Arizona a wee bit better, Biden down 18,000 now in Georgia, but absolutely no movement in Pennsylvania.

Let us ponder...

Sorry for dp r579,

R458 my goodness, at this rate Nate Silver is going to look like a Vogon by 2024

Joe will win Pennsylvania, and BucksYST will be crying in his Sam Adams.

That Pam Bondi & Ginni Thomas need to be held to account.

[quote]R511 Does anyone feel like AZ, NV and GA are being a bit attention-whorish?

It is shocking that politics would rear its ugly head during this time ! !

Take out the garbage

They're being meticulous with vote counting at this point in anticipation of the potential legal ramifications to result. Proactive measures being undertaken. Patience - just let it all play out.

On the other hand, I personally don't believe that TPTB - the fuckers who really run things - are going to allow Trump another term.

"We cannot sanction Trump's buffoonery any longer!" - TPTB

Will Trump get big contracts if he loses? A memoir deal, for example.

Praised AZ too soon. Looks like we may have to go back to shit talking the state. How the hell did Kelly win so easily but it's so close for the presidential race? Did deplorables make the decision to go with the American hero astronaut over the woman senator? We hate Democrats but we hate women in power even more?

R590 Or maybe Biden is a shitty uninspiring candidate who ran a crappy halfhearted campaign?

SO FUCKING TRUE R591!

Except he isn't and he didn't.

R590 How do you know Biden lost Arizona? Do you know something I don't?

r591, it seems even your friends (assuming you have any) won't tell you. You have really bad b.o. ....

R593, I don't, but heard his lead narrowed to 10K.

The last time I found waiting this painful I believed in Santa Claus

Cite your sources, fuckers!

R595 Source?

The online front page from a conservative newspaper in the UK.

Kind of embarrassing.

R597, I'm watching CNN. I misheard it because right now their screen is showing Biden has a 68K lead.

Sorry.

Those people are Making America Great Again! NOT.

Kudos for owning it, r600.

No one's mentioned the most important story of the election? Gay porn stor Antonio Biaggi came in fifth in a six-way race for Wilton Manors City Commissioner.

R590, no, that's not true.

Sorry, that was for R591.