Election Night 2020: Part 4

All that matters

GA needle now sharply swung and tilting Biden!!!!!

Every Vote Counts. Count. Every. Vote!

Fox News calls Arizona for Biden.

R2, link please.

Wow I thought r2 was trolling. The needle favored Trump all night. It is is leaning verrrry slightly Joe's way right now.

I am feeling better after Arizona. An hour ago I thought this was 2016 all over again. But there are so many absentee votes left in the Rust Belt that there's still a chance.

I’m not worried. It looks like Biden has it.

Fox called AZ for Biden half an hour ago. No one else has so far.

Thank you, Muriel, for turning off prime time.

WE ARE IN A FIGHT FOR OUR LIVES!!! FOR OUR FREEDOM!!!

Biden will probably win NE-2

NYT's needle just moved to project Georgia to Biden. Fasten your seatbelts.

Are you insane R7?

AP called HI for Biden. (No surprise.)

Trump has won.

Go to bed.

I know all decent people in the nation were traumatized in 2016 but don’t give up hope so soon.

[quote]Michigan's Secretary of State now predicts all of the state's votes will be counted within the next 24 hours, as opposed to Nov. 6., @JanetShamlian reports. At least 92% of Michigan's requested absentee ballots have been returned.

no, people want Trump to win, but they have no idea.

Why are there no results from Nevada?

Can someone link on GA?!??

Who cares what the NYT says

Nate Silver should be hung in Lafayette square so we can all throw rocks at him. Fuck him and fuck polling. That entire industry is done.

America is a joke.

Trolls fuck off. It looks good for Biden.

[quote]If Biden wins without Ohio, gone are the days where you needed Ohio to win the White House. The campaigns spend way too much time pandering to that bumfuck state. Its time to move on to places like AZ.

Democrats have never needed Ohio to win. It’s Republicans who can’t win without it. Frankly, I think Ohio and Florida are lost causes for Democrats, and they should ignore those. Focus on always winning PA, MI, and WI... the Blue Wall. Hillary ignored those states and look where it got us.

Trump won

I’d rather come on Doug Imhoff.

Looking more favorable for Biden. GA now in his column.

We know R14 and R25.

finally off prime time damn all day today

Atlanta isn’t all counted and I don’t see a major city that’s mostly black voting for turnip

SO, only 5 states left to decide this election now: WI, MI, GA, PA, and NC!!!!!!!

My state's lone Dem. Congresswoman, Kendra Horn, has lost her seat after flipping the district blue in 2018, after 40+ years of being ruby red.

Go back to reddit R28

Biden is 223 according to the guardian

I'm not watching but I can't help but be worried. I think trump will get it because to many americans are total fuckwads.

For the person asking in the other thread, HI is reliably blue and was just called for Biden.

Joe's going to make a speech?

R21 A couple of days ago on another thread, I asked some simple civil questions about the assumptions that pollsters were using for these rosy (blue) scenarios. I was trounced for being absurd. Oh well.

Fox uncalled GA. Oh shit nigh.

James carville went from “well be asleep by midnight” to “I’ll open my celebratory bottle on Friday when we get a call that the courts won’t invalidate”. He’s a DINOSAUR. he knows nothing.

[quote]yes. Florida does that. The southern states do. But the northern states it’s the opposite.

You can't make broad, blanket statements like southern states count polling-place voting first and then absentees.

How states run elections/count votes is governed by state legislatures, and can change frequently. And in some cases, authority is delegated down to the county level.

That's why you had John King saying the early reported Miami-Dade numbers were mail-in ballots and early voting and that was as good as it would get for Biden because things would get better for Trump as they added polling-place voting later in the night.

Biden's on track to win. It's going to take a couple days.

Folks.... you are witnessing the end of Trump. You thought it would be a clean break?

[quote]AP called HI for Biden. (

Alo-ha-HEY!

Fox had called GA already? Last I heard Fox reported that GA had stopped counting for the night and Brit Hume had a hissy fit about it.

And what makes you say that R43

R40 WHAT? You mean AZ?

R43 from your typing to Gods ears.

Apparently, FOX got some angry calls from White House about calling AZ so early!

Oh shit yeah, he meant Fox retracted their Arizona call.

R40 please be more careful in the future, Jesus.

Doug Doucey was whining about AZ on Twitter as well, so I suspect Fox did it to appease their viewers.

[quote]Doug Imhoff

Emhoff

AP calls Minnesota for Biden.

Biden's going to speak in eight minutes.

538 on Georgia:

“ One of the big uncalled states is Georgia, where Trump leads by about 8 percentage points with 79 percent of the expected vote reporting, according to ABC News. On its face, that would seem to be pretty good for Trump. But The New York Times’ needle now gives Biden a slight edge, probably because there are many votes left to be counted in the Atlanta area. Only half of the expected vote is in from deep-blue Fulton County, and only about one-third is in from next-door DeKalb County. Fulton’s count was slowed by a burst pipe at State Farm Arena, and a couple of precincts in DeKalb had their poll-closing times extended by a judge. So it appears a fair number of Democratic-leaning votes are outstanding, but it could take a while before we know what the near-final tallies look like.”

Nate Cohn agrees that it was too soon to call Arizona.

Biden is FAVORED in Arizona, but we have to wait.

Fox has called Joni “Polyester Wig” Ernst as the winner in Iowa.

Fox retracted AZ for Biden?

Trump won.

It's over.

Another Republican re-elected to the Senate. IA will go to Trump.

Senate will only see one seat net gain for Democrats

[quote]Biden's going to speak in eight minutes.

Why? Too early for statements of any kind.

GA looks very interesting. Most remaining votes are from Dem areas. Trump doesn't have any votes left. The question is the the outstanding votes enough for bIDEN TO WIN?

Can someone update me on the EC numbers for Biden? I've turned everything else off.

[quote]Fuck him and fuck polling.

You already knew this. You don't let Nate Silver or polls color your thinking. Why exactly are you upset?

I have no idea, R61. Wait and see.

Biden better say that he will wait till all the ballots are counted if it takes forever. That's all he has to say.

Biden is on track to win.

Both James Carville and Michael Steele just said it on MSNBC. It's going to take some time to count all the mail-in ballots in MI, WI and PA. Biden wins those, and he's got it. And the internal numbers they see look good.

R61, probably because he wants to get a word in before Twitler screams about treason because the uncounted votes aren’t just being put in the trash.

Let's hope so R62 but it does look like Dump will be returned.

Trump won reeelction

I'm crunching the numbers and don't see how biden can win

Biden has 223 EV. There is no path to victory for Trump. You Marys need to calm the fuck down!

r71, which numbers?

Wait until all the votes are counted,,

R59 has been posting that repeatedly for at least an hour.

[quote]Why? Too early for statements of any kind.

To share words of comfort.

To give a little hope.

To remind us of the ideals that got our grandparents through.

Like Presidents do.

Lol, I'd love to see r71's "number crunching"

Amanda Knox putting in her two cents.

It’s clear. Polling is done forever. Nate silver had dems 76% to take the senate now it’s looking likely they’re lucky to gain two seats.

Biden is the favorite to win at this point. Closer than any of us would like, but he is the still the favorite to win.

California results: Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff both easily holding on to their House seats; Devin Nunes in jeopardy.

Fox calling Minnesota for Biden.

Going off the map of the states that are called it looks like Trump has it

Thomas Kaplan from the NYT just said on their live blog:

[quote] A sign of confidence from Biden world: Rufus Gifford, one of his deputy campaign managers, tweeted shortly before midnight, “We’re going to win.”

[quote]Lol, I'd love to see [R71]'s "number crunching"

Is crunch with syringe full of krokodil, yays?

R78 Tell her, too soon. Wait another decade before springing on social media.

Don’t ever listen to Nate Silver. He is ALWAYS wrong.

Have faith in the absentee and mail-in ballots!

Scott Walker was projected to win WI governor, but absentee ballots have Tony Evers the win.

White people rule in America. That’s always been true. If blacks people cant be bothered to vote and Latinos want trump then that’s what they get. It’s hard to sympathize much with them now. They couldn’t bother to show up to vote but they can go burn down a police station. How sick.

[quote]I'm crunching the numbers and don't see how biden can win

You're doing it wrong. Again.

R81 did it say anything about the Smith vs Garcia race?

My uncle is heavily invested in that one because he grew up with that piece of shit Mike Garcia.

Yeah, R59. We heard you the other six times you've said it on this thread (which is your entire posting history).

Just wanted to say thank you for saying that to R602 from the "Election Night 2020: Part 3 thread". I'm R460.

Yes time for bed. We have all earned some sleep. I'm still hoping I'm dead wrong. I'm deeply numb R602.

R89. I think many in rural and urban areas will agree with you.

All this movement at Fox, but MSNBC is going thru re-treads -- do I need to switch channels?

Right r87 like his crass wrongness in 2018. Right?

Fox already had to retract Arizona, so I'm not going by their calls anymore.

The pollsters are OUT OF A JOB tomorrow I can tell you that. Incompetent fucks.

When it comes to Trump, Silver is batting zero.

[quote]Fox calling Minnesota for Biden.

It will be interesting to see what Biden's final margin is in Minnesota. If Biden wins Minnesota by more than Hillary (which was only 4 points) it could bode well for him in MI, PA & WI. If Biden's victory in Minnesota is narrow, it could point to problems MI, PA & WI.

[quote] Based on margins so far and outstanding votes still to be counted in MI and WI, Biden will win those two states overnight. Every indication he will be declared winner this hour in AZ. That will get him to 270. He won’t need OH or PA. Biden is going to win.

Ossoff narrowed the gap against Perdue and seems like tied his fate with Biden's in GA. I hope he can at least pull off a run off.

Same with Peters in Michigan. If Biden goes down so does Peters.

Wtf are you talking about R90 this is the first time I've said anything about it

Biden has 223.

States he could conceivably pick up:

WI - 10 electoral votes

MI - 16

PA - 20

AZ - 8

GA - 16

NV - 6

Fox did NOT RETRACT their Arizona call. That is an internet rumor.

Yes, but he's not leading in any of those states

I've been flicking between 4 channels R95.

MSNBC, Fox, CNN and ABC Australia. It's been full on but very informative. I've learned a shitload too.

Some of you are so negative. Calm down it’s close but Biden has it.

Pardon me, except for AZ

Have any of you noticed the Question 2 ballot initiative in NV? It states "Recognizes marriage as between couples regardless of gender; states that religious organizations and clergypersons have the right to refuse to solemnize a marriage." Right now it is going down to defeat 55 to 45.

I love how everyone is calling this race with none of the swing states counted yet. Come on .

CNN calls MINNESOTA for BIDEN

David Shuster—there's a blast from the past. Still lookin' good!

Wouldn't that be AMAZING if Biden got all those votes R104.

Even if he gets all those R104, it's not enough. He needs 77

I can hear Nate silver now. “10 percent is not zero!” Fuck that fag

R104, Biden got AZ and NV. And I think he will get WI and MI. But will lose PA.

GA is a big question.

Fox stands by early call for Biden on AZ. The Fox News decision desk chief just said on air: "I'm sorry, the president is not going to be able to take over and win enough votes" to win AZ.

Well for once I hope Fox is right.

Why are all the states that haven't been called yet all leaning red?!?

So at this point what does Biden need?

Why is Biden speaking?

Biden's lead in PA was narrowing in some polls in the final days, like the Monmouth poll.

But Biden had wider polling leads in MI & WI.

R120 most likely because they haven't counted any of the mail in or early votes.

This all but eliminates Democrats chance to take the Senate. Only Sarah Gideon, Cal Cunningham and Al Gross have a chance to join Kelly and Hickenlooper.

[quote] Republican Rep. Roger Marshall defeated Dr. Barbara Bollier in the Kansas Senate race to retain his party’s hold on the seat, according to The Associated Press.

[quote] Democrats had hoped to pull an upset in the traditionally red seat.

Biden needs 47 EV.

Trumps lead in FL, which NBC just called, is insanse. It wasn’t even close. Fuck Cubans.

MSNBC finally put us out of our misery and called Florida for Dump.

[quote]It’s clear. Polling is done forever. Nate silver had dems 76% to take the senate now it’s looking likely they’re lucky to gain two seats.

I can see lying to a pollster about voting Dump, but why lie about voting for senate?

CNN just gave a Dump Fla. which he can have, if you ask me.

Are you a troll or an idiot r120?

They election day votes which we knew were going to be red. We aren't going to know the winner of m Michigan or Pennsylvania (or Georgia because of other issues) tonight.

Trump just got Florida

FL called for Trump. Wow....400K vote difference. Sure, Biden was not projected to win but not to lose by this margin. Dems can write off FL in the future.

CNN called Florida for Trump.

Those lazy fucks R124. It's not like they didn't know this was happening. It's unacceptable to make the whole country wait while they fuck around. They should be working all through the night until it's done.

Trump will claim victory tonight. Biden is a fool for speaking first

Australian commentator just going through the Blue Wall states and explaining why the Trump lead now is illusory, or at best very rubbery. In all of them they are still waiting for the postal votes AND the big city votes, all of which will heavily favour the Dems.

If there is as much as a 5 point error compared with the polls, Pa would go but the other two would remain Dem, and as long as he holds Arizona, Biden wins. That's not counting Georgia, which is edging back to him.

That said, whereas after 2016 we might have thought a lot of Americans made an impulsive decision they regretted as Trump showed his colours, now we know they were, and are, actual shitheads.

[quote]Why are all the states that haven't been called yet all leaning red?!?

They haven’t counted their mail-in votes, which will mostly be Blue.

Michael Steele on the Lincoln Project webcast: "They ain't countin' shit in Pennsylvania till tomorrow, people!"

Florida has Rep Gov and 2 Rep Senators. It’s red not purple.

Biden is speaking!

You're right R126 I miscalculated

Biden is giving a losers speech.

Says he feels good about where they are. Believes Dems are on track to win election.

It was long announced that PA and Michigan would need time to count r134. We knew this would happen.

There's a lot of cheating involved with the help of DeJoy and the Post office in Florida.

Regardless of the the result, the United States needs to break the fuck up. It's ungovernable.

Based on margins so far and outstanding votes still to be counted in MI and WI, Biden will win those two states overnight. Every indication he will be declared winner this hour in AZ. That will get him to 270. He won’t need OH or PA. Biden is going to win. #Election2020

Has any network talked about what's going on in Wisconsin? Have they counted early votes yet?

[quote]If Biden wins Minnesota by more than Hillary (which was only 4 points) it could bode well for him in MI, PA & WI.

He's doing 4-5 points better than Hillary EVERYWHERE. Of course there's no Gary Johnson/Jill Stein either.

You already have your trend.

Safe vote tally to this moment:

Biden 226

Trump 175

Biden should not be speaking

All the pollsters were wrong except the Trafalgar Group. Two elections in the row that the pollsters were wrong and not even close. Nationally, Joe will not win by 7-10 points in popular votes. I think they all should be fired.

[quote]Dems can write off FL in the future.

Agree. Stop wasting money on that swampy shithole.

Hope you are right, and that he wins Penn and Ga too!

Biden is talking like a winner.

Joe Biden: "We're feeling real good about Wisconsin and Michigan. And by the way, it's going to take time to count the votes, but we're going to win Pennsylvania."

NV is in DANGER!

I fucking LOVE this guy!

He gave a short pep talk. It was necessary.

Hope joe #deportsallcubans

Biden didn’t mention NC. So it’s over there.

[Quote]12:38am text from Trump campaign staffer: "Momentum has clearly shifted to Biden... Georgia is..... oof."

[quote] .@JoeBiden: "I am here to tell you tonight we believe we are on track to win this election. We're going to have to be patient. And it ain't over till every vote is counted, every ballot is counted."

[quote] "It's not my place or Donald Trump's place to declare who's won this election. That's the decision of the American people. But I'm optimistic about this outcome."

[quote]NV is in DANGER!'

I'll translate that for DL'ers: Nevada, you in danger, gurl!

Good statement by Joe. Very optimistic.

Jim Acosta just called out Dump for misspelling polls and "poles" in his latest tweet 😁

[quote]Wtf are you talking about [R90] this is the first time I've said anything about it

The last time you said Orange was going to win.

I'm heading to bed. Got to work in the morning. I feel a bit better now than I was a couple of hours ago, but I'm still nervous about how close this is. Hope there's good news in the morning.

Good night all.

This is going exactly the way Trump wants. So sad

[quote] I will be making a statement tonight. A big WIN!

Holy fuck it’s finally looking ok-to-good.

Not the Senate so much, but for Biden yeah.

Night R167 x

Joe needed to do this to counter/preëmpt Donnie from claiming the election.

R152 Jim Rickards polled the same as Trafalgar.

If this pig wins again I’m not spending anymore money visiting the USA

Biden didn’t flip SHIT and the dems aren’t getting the senate. Worst case scenario continues to unfold. Dems will not take the senate

All you Debbie Downers, please STFU. Trump may look like he's leading but that's because they haven't counted the mail-in ballots which leans heavily Dems and also the urban counties have not been counted which is also heavily Dems.

Stand by for more lies...

Nate silver should kill himself tomorrow

[quote]Nate silver should kill himself tomorrow

What's wrong with right this instant?

Trump sounds worried about mail in ballots R177

In Dauphin Co., Pa. (Harrisburg), almost all votes are counted and Biden leads, 53-45. In 2016, Clinton won it 49-46.

Fox News just calls Poland for Trump!

Is Nate an aspie? There were many pollsters, not just Nate, predicting a blue landslide.

Joni Ernst wins in Iowa. There goes the senate for dems.

Joe needs to take two-thirds of the votes left to count in Georgia, and those are in Atlanta.

That’s good news, right?

[quote] Keep the faith, guys. We’re gonna win this.

Lol -- the Orange Dumbass just Tweeted/deleted this:

[quote] Wow, Twitter’s watching Trump closely tonight. Less than 6 minutes from tweet to warning notice.

Who stole the keeshka?

R181, that's a positive update from Louis Jacobson about Biden's chances in that PA county.

Yup, MSNBC now saying this is going to end up in the courts. How did we get here, again?

Yes r185. The vote left in Georgia is in the Atlanta area. That is why currently NYtimes thinks it will end up being a slim Biden win.

Regardless, Georgia is still in play, which is pretty incredible.

R187 Trump's outreach in defense of the Polish people is so heartwarming.

Biden at a 7-point lead in ARIZONA with 78% now in.

If Biden takes Georgia, Trump can probably start packing his bags.

So what are the paths to 270 Joe has available right now?

Maybe Trump will or or have a heart attack tonight

David Chalian says on CNN that a lot more early vote is to come in yet in Pennsylvania and Michigan.

What about North Carolina? Who's ahead there right now?

Twitter just put a big misinformation sticker over Twitler’s declaration that he’s being robbed!

Wow, Biden is ahead in Georgia

Twitter needs to delete his account altogether.

In case there is doubt, Biden is going win Nevada

Biden up 14,000 in Washoe. Big numbers for him and that is two-thirds of the vote. Washoe is the swing county.

BIDEN (DEM)111,53452.04 BLANKENSHIP (IAP)5010.23 JORGENSEN (LPN)2,4221.13 TRUMP (REP)97,49445.49 NONE OF THESE CANDIDATES (NP)2,3851.11 Total Voters214,336

Please, if he lose, Donald make me do the babykisses on his beanbag sack of yeti pubes. Keel me now.

Susan Collins is really favored to win. The Russians are involved in this shit

R197 So if that happens, does that mean that Ivanka becomes Queen, or does the dauphin Barron become the King with Melania as regent?

I'm not even mildly concerned, R205.

Minnesota for Biden

Per NYT

Record turnout at trump wins everything? Call me a fool

Ernst retains her seat so that basically means the Rethugs hold on to the Senate, right?

Fucking Florida just reelected that troll Matt Gaetz; I guess trotting out Nestor helped after all.

David Axelrod said on CNN he would rather still be Biden at this point.

r206. none of the above; because this country is NOT a monarchy.

This is like those movies where the villain looks like he's going to win and then the good guy comes from behind.

Jodi Ernst is what my grandfather might have called,"a lady who has carpet for dinner", no?

Oh, fucking Van Jones, always whining. He’s mourning the loss of the moral victory and repudiation. Well that’s the voters, babe.

NBC trump wins Texas

[quote]Those lazy fucks [R124]. It's not like they didn't know this was happening. It's unacceptable to make the whole country wait while they fuck around. They should be working all through the night until it's done.

The Republican legislatures there passed laws preventing that.

Democrats are fools. Trump is now ahead in EC. He’s about to declare victory. It’s over.

I turned the channel when Van started talking.

R214 ...that's what you think. Just give it another year of Trump; you can expect more gilding at the WH.

R219 and they did that beacuse that' s how they cheat and they cheat because it's the only way they can win.

So if Susan "I'm concerned" Collins is on the path to re-election we might have just lost our chance to take back the Senate.

And McTurtle AND Lady G will still be in charge.

Fuck.

So, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin and Maine would take Joe to 270, even without Georgia.

Is there any reason to doubt those 5?

MSNBC just called TX for Trump.

So what do we do now?

Anyone have updated EC numbers for Joe?

Biden issued a warning shot on Twitter:

“It’s not my place or Donald Trump’s place to declare the winner of this election. It's the voters’ place.”

Biden is a pussy. He shouldn’t have spoken. Now Trump is ahead in EC. He will declare victory and throw out all the ballots.

Again, r226, it was expected.

R228 212 > 205, Trump

And to that, R229, Dotard says, I do what I want!

223, R228

Whatever the outcome of the presidential election it's pretty clear that polling companies are pretty useless and belong in the past. In terms of senate races and the presidency they clearly are unable for whatever reason to reach a significant chunk of voters and that is distorting their polling results and predictions.

Joe spoke because Hillary hid like a coward 4 years ago.

223-212

Tonight is tragic. Anyone saying otherwise is a fool. Biden may still win but the senate is gone. The sunbelt is gone. Tonight was BAD. Something is wrong with the Democratic Party

So Joe needs 47 to win.

Joe Biden has WON NE-02, this might be very important.

Van is so damn hot, but I hate it when he gets all weepy.

r229, that was clearly meant for one person and one person only; the current occupant of the White House.

Biden is daring him to declare victory prematurely.

Nate Cohn on Georgia:

“ An important factor in Georgia: a lot of the remaining vote in the Atlanta area is actually early and absentee, which is especially good for Biden. A reversal of what we've been doing most everywhere else”

R240 why is that important?

With a NE-02 win, Biden can win with with Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin.

He could lose PA and still win.

It prevents a 269-269 tie, R244

the remaining PA ballots are favouring Biden by 5:1 margin!!!!

[quote]Joe Biden has WON NE-02, this might be very important.

Dave Wasserman has been saying for weeks that Nebraska's 2nd District would go to Biden, and it looks like he was right.

Thanks, R245.

And if Biden wins GA what does he need?

R244, see below - @Riledhi

Replying to @DecisionDeskHQ no sarcasm, this is big. Helps keep us away from a 269 tie and opens up a AZ-MI-WI path for joe

[quote]the remaining PA ballots are favouring Biden by 5:1 margin!!!!

R247, where is this being reported?

Excellent news,,

Thanks, R250.

With NE-2 win, Biden now only need to win MI and WI and lose PA and GA and still win.

However he MUST win AZ and NV.

How is Joe doing in that other district with one electoral vote in Maine?

Yes, thanks R250

So all this drama about TX and in the end it wasn't really that close. I am way tired of FL and TX. Georgia is trending purple. NC too. But the dream of Tx and the addiction to FL doesn't help the national Dem party.

Are the pollsters in hiding yet? We need public shaming for them. If you see Nate silver on Grindr, harass him

Trump can dispute the PA 3-day deadline all he wants. Won’t matter if Biden wins AZ, MI and WI.

I think it’s ovah for Cheeto.

I agree r257, I think it's past time to just dump Florida and consider it a red state.

Florida will always be on crack. No campaign should ever count on it.

Biden didn’t go TX. That tells you how they felt. They’ve been laser focused on the Midwest.

Warnock needs to win in January’s runoff. Georgia’s second Senate seat.

Could Obama please help?

Yes after 2018 and especially 2020, the Dems should put less resources into Florida.

Georgia and North Carolina are now bluer than Florida

How do we argue the party needs to go left when we can barely win with a Biden, as center as Center gets?

MSNBC said that FL was never in the Biden campaign's game plan, so in actuality it was no loss. If he had won there, it simply would've been a very nice surprise but not necessary to win the presidency.

Trump has won.

Live with it;.

I’m feeling good finally.

Senate — ack. We’ll see. But Biden —feeling good.

R267, not at all—aren’t you keeping up?

Everyone expected the dems to take the senate and they aren’t going to. Somethings wrong with the Democratic Party.

Trump expected to speak soon. He will declare victory. I hope those 4000 Biden lawyers are touching down in PA cause we’re gonna need them.

That poster is a troll that you should have FFed and ignored a few threads ago r267.

r266, well, smell them!

CNN calls Nebraska's 2nd District for BIDEN.

That is good news for Biden PollTroll, thanks!

[quote][R267], not at all—aren’t you keeping up?

It's the same troll repeating the same thing over and over, R269.

Michigan election officials have told Fox News decision desk that they don't expect most of the vote to be counted until noon.

Everyone laughed at the secret Trump vote. You’re seeing it. It’s why democrats are losing

[quote]Folks.... you are witnessing the end of Trump. You thought it would be a clean break?

Are you aren't able to do basic math? Trump has won.

Trump is about to call for a stop of the counting of votes, per NBC. We live in a dictatorship

This is pretty straightforward. Looking at MI & WI right now, based on huge # of outstanding mail ballots in urban cores, you'd much rather be Joe Biden than Donald Trump.

[quote] Are you aren't able to do basic math? Trump has won.

Oh, dear!

[quote]MSNBC said that FL was never in the Biden campaign's game plan, so in actuality it was no loss. If he had won there, it simply would've been a very nice surprise but not necessary to win the presidency.

r266 so is that what they are going to say about MI, PA or WI if they go red too? Just say they weren't part of the "game plan"? Democrats really need to get a grip and realize that people who vote Dem don't want to be treated like their votes are disposable. That's why Black and Latino men have turned into Republicans seemingly overnight.

R272, thanks. Blocked him.

With MN win, Biden now at 220 and Trump at 213.

Dems aren’t even close to flipping the senate. What the fuck happened?

What's wrong wat republicans won control with a monopoly of the vote counting process with the Help America Vote Act in 2002 and there has not been an honest election in the United States since. And when you point this out you are shouted down by people who say you're discouraging people from voting. But here's a case where everybody voted and the vote was rigged anyway.

Yay Minnesota

I’m so bored with John King’s magic wall. I’d rather hear the Talking Heads. It’s like ugly Vanna White

So Trump is about to speak and he’s going to say ballots should stop being counted now. It’s looking like a good idea that cities boarded up stores. The coming days are going to be chaos. Thanks Cubans.

Switch to Judy Woodruff.

Cuban-Americans were all fascists when they were in Cuba. Why should anything change here?

There is more than a million ballots left to count in PA.

CNN says still around 1 million votes outstanding in Pennsylvania and most in democratic strongholds.

Biden takes the lead in NEVADA.

Biden ahead in Nevada

Damn, CNN takes a long time to call races don't they?

On the other hand, at times I think Fox calls them too soon.

PollTroll, what's going on with Michigan? 61% of the votes in and Trump ahead? I thought Biden had a comfortable lead there.

Biden closing in in Georgia too!!!!

can he do that? Just say stop counting even though there are states not declared yet, he has less EVs and less PVs?

Can we get refunds from all these senate candidates we donated to? For fucks sake. These people weren’t even close. Jaime Harrison should go into HIDING for spending $100 MILLION to lose. Good lord.

He has no power to stop the counting.

I can win at Connect Four by flipping the tray open when I can only connect two!

He can say anything, but he can't stop the count.

GA is in virtual tie.

Yeah r302, who does he think he is? The Supreme Court?

Biden has 224; these 46 get him to 270:

[bold](16) MI / (11) AZ / (10) WI / (6) NV / (3) Rest of Maine / (1) NE-2[/bold] AZ and NE-2 are Biden flips

Trump has 213; these 5 get him to 218:

[bold](4) Rest of Nebraska / (1) ME-2[/bold] Trump has no flips

These 51 can go to Biden or Trump; they won't get trump past 270, only to 269. All 51 would get Biden to 321.

[bold](20) PA / (16) GA / (15) NC[/bold] Each would be a Biden flip.

The popular vote will be Biden 81,000,000 (54%) to Trump 69,000,000 (46%)

In the immortal words of the Village People, you can't stop the music!

thank you r304 and r302! I had a stuter brain moment of 'wait, can he?'

Nate Cohn says "Biden still a very narrow favorite" with the needle for GEORGIA:

Democrats are suckers. Donating to races in Ky, SC, IA. I agree that Jaime harrison should be ashamed of himself for spending that much. I saw his ads here in nyc. Really?

[quote]the Dems should put less resources into Florida.

I will still hundreds of millions at it!

[quote] Dems aren’t even close to flipping the senate. What the fuck happened?

In spite of the obstreperous protestations that all of the polling must be wrong, the reality is that all of the Democratic chances were small leads, within the margin of error, in red states. I thought we might pick up a net 7 or 8 but now, if Gross and Cunningham manage to win, at best we will have won four for a net three. It is really fucking infuriating, but the reality is IA, TX, SC, MS and of course SC all had the coattails of Thing One to ride on.. We were hoping to flip some of those states altogether and take the electoral vote and Senate seat. Alas, no. People live in fear and cling to their bias, unfortunately.

That seems high r307. From what I've seen Biden is on track to win the popular vote by 5 or 6 points.

Come on, Georgia, please!

R313 but the polls...

I am worried about Peters retaining the Senate seat in MI. John James, the Republican is ahead by almost 300K votes. This could be a loss for the Dems.

I want my money back

If those Atlanta votes make the difference, I swear, I will go there on my next vacation and let every hot gay Democrat fuck my hole.

All that money should have been spent in PA to buy those bitches some poll workers to count those votes faster.

No matter what trump says the election is not called. The world will not report as such. All ballots will be counted. We need UN peace keepers

I hate to say this but South Carolina is still South Carolina, and even a white, gay Republican man is preferable to most voters there than a black, straight, Democratic one.

Prove me wrong.

When Joe wins, how are we going to get anything done in this country without the Senate? The thought of McConnell as majority leader is infuriating. That motherfucker needs to be clubbed to death.

Please don’t, r319. It’ll add insult to injury.

Ron Brownstein on Arizona:

Maricopa still has more early votes than day of votes to go.

MT senate gone. It’s official. Rs will hold the senate. Goodbye to anything happening in America for two years if Biden wins

R319 you're supposed to sacrifice something you're not already begging for.

R323 well at least in that scenario you only have 2 years to wait to vote them all out again.

I want a refund from Theresa greenfield. That bitch wasn’t close. What a waste. I demand my money back

The Senate flip was an 85% odds favorite for Dems. Who the hell made this prediction? They should be fired. But NO. During the next election cycle we will have Iowa give credence to someone that may not even win. Tons of money will be sent there. Then we will have party favorites run for Senate or Congressional seats, even though we all know their odds are zero. We will give them millions of dollars that will go to the same advisers and pollsters as of today. CRIMINAL.

Are they expecting that they'll call any more states int he next few hours?

Calm down r317. There is a lot of democratic Michigan vote left. No need to panic yet.

I hope Latinos get deported en masse. It’s what they voted for!

The Repugs in the Senate are going to be in a major quandry if Joe wins. Trump will be outside, but still rallying, I bet, right until the handcuffs go on. How do they break from him if he has been defeated so narrowly. He’ll still be their insane leader, but on the outside, trying to hold onto the adulation of the masses. It’s all he has.

I knew Greenfield would never win. First, she won the primary by staying in her basement. Then she gives only controlled interviews. She had only one good debate because she knew the break-even price point for corn and beans. The rest of Iowa didn't give a damn and Ernst was a favorite.

We might get an Arizona call r331. Possibly Nevada.

Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia and Pennsylvania aren't getting called tonight.

Has Nate Silver made a statement?

When will the Dems realize that they need new ideas and new candidates? New ideas that will appeal to some of the Trump supporters. It is obvious we cannot win with left or left of center ideas.

[quote] The thought of McConnell as majority leader is infuriating. That motherfucker needs to be clubbed to death.

One can dream, but he'll just retract his head into his shell.

Trump about to declare victory, one minute on msnbc

R333 if they voted they’re legal and won’t be getting deported.

has a candidate ever declared victory and had to retract before?

It’s over. Trumps about to speak. Blood in the streets in the morning. America is over

I can see that WI and AZ will go to Biden. I am not sure about MI. PA...Biden winning is a wet dream. GA goes to Trump.

Trump wins.

It would be a delight if Trump walks to the mic and has a massive stroke.

The newspapers had to retract in 1948.

Before you guys blame the Dems for anything, what about the cheating going on? I heard there are still mail-in ballots waiting to be counted at the Post Office in FLA even though it was declared a victory? And then there are "missing" ballots in PA?

I’m muting Trump. This night has been bad enough. I’m gonna dance instead

Literally every single dem has lost tonight. What country do we live in?

For Republicans...this is the new party. The party of Reagan is gone. For Dems-you are no longer a player and can't win national elections. America-is screwed.

This is crazy. Did anyone watch MSNBC last night? Rachel and Lawarence were practically congratulating each other on a Biden win and Dem Senate. They were damn near teary eye over it.

I am not going to give a S**t about anyone or anybody other than myself. That is the new mantra in the US.

Just a reminder that no modern-day President has ever given an election speech from the fucking White House.

Shit is about to hit the fan!!!!!

How is Susan Collins gonna win? What the fuck?

[quote]Literally every single dem has lost tonight.

Not the ones that control the U.S. House of Representatives.

More than 2 million outstanding mail-in ballots not counted in PA. The polls can't be all wrong.

I believe DeJoy threw them out in FLA. There's a lot of cheating going on. Biden needs to get his lawyers on this.

There’s one good thing for me in the midst of all this. I had set aside an Ambien next to my bed on a book I was reading. When I was ready to fall asleep the Ambien had disappeared, and I only had enough until my prescription is due. I frantically searched and found it on the bathroom about six to nine feet from where I had set it aside. How it got there I don’t know unless I flipped the book in the general direction of the bathroom with the pill on top. Not only had I now secured my sleep, but also found a last dose of Klonopin hiding behind my toothbrush. So my sleep and some anxiety relief are assured tonight. Small comforts make a difference on nights like this.

Wisconsin just dropped a large number of votes. It is closer but Trump still has 51% with 79% counted.

so where is the maggat motherfucker?

Bloomberg News:

Wisconsin says there's no way they are announcing a winner tonight

Michigan needs until Friday

Pennsylvania isn't coming out anytime soon, either

Per officials in those states

I'm hoping the new Georgia vote totals could push the Ossoff race into a run-off instead of a Perdue win. Probably not, but it's something to hope for.

Tonight is a bloodbath for Democrats. What the fuck happened?

Get a blog R358

If I were Trump, I would wait. Based on returns so far, he could actually win WI, MI, and PA by a hair like last time.

Joe Cunningham lost his seat. The sexiest man in congress just lost.

Republicans are doing not so bad in House races too, they flipped several Dm seats now. Still not enough to retake the house, but still.

Damn. Steve kornacki was not kind on Wisconsin. Biden may lose it.

Donald J. Trump

[quote]We are up BIG, but they are trying to STEAL the Election. We will never let them do it. Votes cannot be cast after the Polls are closed!

Adam Kinzinger

[quote]Stop. Full stop. The votes will be counted and you will either win or lose. And America will accept that. Patience is a virtue.

WI is lost I think. Damn it.

So many blue wave freshmen’s lost their seats tonight :( Trump is going to win

r338, I do think new candidates and ideas would help, but most of all it comes down to voter participation. I've said it over and over. Republicans get their people to the polls no matter what. They will turn out of vote for whatever POS candidate is on their ticket, as long as its a Republican. Democrats have got to learn how to get people out of the house to vote, regardless of who is heading the ticket.

The President is scarfing a mixed bucket Adderall and KFC.

OK TV on mute

Dave Wasserman has been saying for weeks that Biden is more likely to finish higher in Arizona than he does in Wisconsin.

That may turn out to be correct.

The Russians screwed with the votes. There’s just no way these results are real compared to 2018. Trump is about to win

Mute

Shithead will be speaking momentarily. His spawn just entered the pressroom.

Lies lies lies

Muted here as well. I might just call it and go to bed at this point. I have the day off tomorrow, so hopefully when I wake up Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona will be called - for Biden

Unbelievable, Trump just walked out to pomp and circumstance and an announcer that sounded like WWE.;

I can’t believe this is real life.

The Russians succeeded

As expected, he says he is winning by tremendous number in PA. This is what everyone was afraid of.

This is why we needed a Florida win and flipping some other state early- to stave off trump pulling this shit about stopping the vote.

I put this at the feet of the Democrats. They are out of touch.

Put it at the feet of deplorables. They are out of their minds.

The Florida margin is disturbing. It wasn’t even close. Trump is America. We are in the minority until blacks people learn to vote.

R386 How do you appeal to people who willingly vote for an insane, racist, catastrophically incompetent conman?

Yes, he just claimed "We did win this election".

JFC, how hard is it for all the networks and newspapers to get on the same fucking page?? Everyone has a different EC count and Senate seat count.

Here we go...

Who cares r385? He can't stop the vote just by demanding it like the big baby he is.

So he wants to count outstanding ballots in Arizona, but nowhere else. I hate this pig. I hate this fucking pig and every piece of shit who voted for him.

How fucking disgusting so much of the rest of the country is. I am so glad I live in California. What a bunch of freaks.

Yup it’s over. Going to the courts.

Georgia has tabulated more votes with 9% left to count. The difference between the two is now 110K. Getting closer.

Very unlikely Biden can pull it off based on those numbers.

MSNBC didn’t have to show Trump speak. Shame on them

Bedside reading tonight

[quote] like the big baby he is.

STOP CALLING HIM A BABY. He's a psychopath. He is dangerous, not just infantile.

"We are going to the U.S. Supreme Court....blah blah blah..."

As if.

DOES NO OME ELSE THINK THIS IS FISHY? Susan Collins winning by when she’s been down a lot in every poll? Who’s tabulating these votes? Nadyia? I wanna see proof

Trump has lived in Florida for a long time. Maybe that’s why the huge margin.

We are listening to the rantings of a dead man.

This is such a fucking mess.

We shouldn’t be here. America has chosen the man who wants us all to die in a pandemic.

Has Trump won or not

Speaking of bullshit, Zepata county in Texas went for Hillary by 33 points, but tonight went Trump. But then went Democratic the rest of the ticket. This is some straight-up bullshit GOP hacking fuckery and I will never believe differently. They're still cheating.

Black participation rates are consistently in the high 50% range in federal elections. usually just behind Whites (occasionally exceeding). I'm not sure why people act like they don't vote. Asians and Hispanics don't vote nearly as much.

Black people want to stop getting killed well then they should have voted.

It’s far more likely that Trump wins than Biden does

No, he has NOT won.

Kornacki was PISSED when he was reviewing the areas that are outstanding in PA, while saying it is too early for ANYONE (Trump) to be declaring victory.

Notice how measured Pence's words were compared to impeached donald's message, e.g. "We are on the road to victory."

Mikey, you in trouble gurl.

NYT still gives Biden a chance in GA. I still don't see a victory in MI or PA.

R369, Adam Kinzinger needs to have my warm tongue embedded in his hole ASAP.

Biden has won Minnesota by a larger margin than Hillary Clinton. The question is, does that help him in Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania?

R413, Kornacki did seem upset, didn't he?

CNN could have used Jeffrey Toobin tonight.

[quote] Asians and Hispanics don't vote nearly as much.

Asians aren’t demanding structural social change. They’re not the ones doing whatever in the streets, asking for white Americans to do X and Y for them.

There are still millions of mail-in ballots to be counted. Something is very fishy and wrong.

[quote] Given the circumstances, those right there might be the most egregious lies Trump has ever told.

Florida's vote was probably electronically manipulated to give a Trump win.

[quote] BREAKING: Joe Biden wins Maine,

Biden lead in ARIZONA narrows a bit -- to 5 points, with 82% of the vote now in.

R409 - “ Speaking of bullshit, Zepata county in Texas went for Hillary by 33 points, but tonight went Trump. But then went Democratic the rest of the ticket. This is some straight-up bullshit GOP hacking fuckery and I will never believe differently. They're still cheating.”

Isn’t this something Biden’s lawyers could investigate?

[quote]CNN could have used Jeffrey Toobin tonight

He has his hands full

Texas fraud. Greg Abbott needs to be arrested and prosecuted.

Jesus, Ari Melber is just perfect in every way.

[quote]Asians aren’t demanding structural social change. They’re not the ones doing whatever in the streets, asking for white Americans to do X and Y for them.

Perhaps you're overestimating how many Black people are actually "demanding structural social change" or for White people to do anything at all for them? Did that ever cross your mind?

AZ for Biden.

Wow, the bigots and the deplorables are here on this thread tonight.

AP calls AZ for Biden.

[quote] AP has called Arizona for both Biden and Mark Kelly.

AZ. That’s great. Need NV. Any word?

Betcha Orange It then phoned justice* Amy Coney Barrett and Nicki Haley, not necessarily in that order.

Meanwhile, Speaker Pelosi should be stepping into her Impeachment stilettos. One for the road.

What does that bring the total Senate number for Dems?

California transplants helped push AZ and NV into blue. Californians turn up every election, every time, and do the heavy lifting out west.

Huge uproar from most Republicans about what just happened. Fox News is NOT happy.

R438, that's what needs to happen. Blue states need to move into red states more.

CNN hottie Phil Mattingly has taken over the Magic Wall.

Who fucks Phil Matty?

Who fucks Phil Matty?

What happened R439?

Wow! Lawrence O'Donnell is questioning donald's pre-speech medication intake.

Joni Ernst Wins in Iowa, Frustrating Democrats’ Push for Senate Majority

I wanna fuck Phil Mattingly hard. And think if Chris fucked him it might be hot

Is that cunt out yet?

We are out of prime time.

no tv pundits are mentioning the cheating repugs do, and the post office fuk ups, thousands of ballots never delivered

i think media wants trump 2 win, he draws more heads to the tv than biden would. follow da $$$

Why are the votes in Arizona taking so long? They’ve stopped for the night? I’m worried even though AP has now also called it.

At least we don't have to see any more of that Mighty Joe Biden bullshit here.

R444, Trump's whining and threats to go to court. I am actually impressed by their coverage it's been pretty balanced tonight.

I’m with you R447

Fox also is ready to call NV for Biden but not doing it because they afraid of Trump.

Arizona voters pass Prop. 207, legalizing recreational marijuana in Arizona

Trump won PA, WI, MI, NC, and GA.

The networks are dragging out calling it in some vain hope that Democrats can pull litigation out of their asses and salvage a win.

Not possible. You can't get around the voters.

Im sick my cutie pie Ossoff is losin to that chicken shit perdue

Am I the only one who noticed Dump sneer “they can’t catch us!!!” during his rant? Catch them doing what?...I think Biden et al are so calm because they already have indisputable evidence of the vote hacking etc and know exactly what process comes next.

R453 compared to Trump anyone seems balanced.

But PA is basically gone and I’m not optimistic WI and MI can flip once those early votes come in either. At least not by what CNN is saying.

For R442

CNN reporter Phil Mattingly. Hot as a white star. Yum

R400, good for you! You shouldn't waste time, you should act immediately.

I’m not holding my breath for that shithole North Carolina

Well, at least I have legal weed in Arizona. Oh, and no more McSally.

[quote] no tv pundits are mentioning the cheating repugs do, and the post office fuk ups, thousands of ballots never delivered

CNN mentioned it for a few seconds. I think the networks and media want to call it right away when it's impossible to count all the millions of mail-in ballots. Heck, it took California 2 weeks to count their's. The majority of mail-in ballots were Dems. I think the reporting was the Election Day results. The states in questioned said it would take a couple of days to count.

I also don't trust the Post Office.

Dreamed Biden won. Woke up disappointed. Fell back to sleep and had an even more vivid dream about Biden winning. Woke up disappointed again, checked my phone anxiously, and saw that the results aren't all in yet but things look bleak. Damn it.

I think Biden is going to win it. A shame it wasn't a landslide.

But with all the cheating that's been going on, voter suppression, interference, the Dems still turned out in big enough numbers.

Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm says she thinks Biden can still win Michigan when all the votes are counted.

R457

Troll alert. Or is it Donald Trump?

Many votes have not been counted.

I love DL but damn there are a lot of idiots posting here tonight.

PA is NOT gone. There are 2.2 million mail-in ballots that won't even be opened until today (Wednesday), and the advance vote has been breaking heavily for Biden everywhere.

[quote]Zepata county in Texas went for Hillary by 33 points, but tonight went Trump. But then went Democratic the rest of the ticket

Any news on the State House situation in TX?

I hate this. Why is everything so third world? They could process the ballots as they came in? Jesus.

R471

Which is why Trump wants to toss those votes out.

R461, thanks for the hot photo of Phil Mattingly.

I cracked up when I heard that Fox called Arizona for Biden.

Apparently he was enraged!

California rejected Trump 70/30 the largest of any other state including NY. Why couldn't the rest of you country hicks be on board? We have rural areas too, still lost our vote by a landslide.

R471 john king said it can be done but it’s a steep climb. He knows his shit.

Who services Phil?

DL fave Harry Enten now on CNN.

With 69.7% of the vote in, Nevada is currently at 50.1% for Biden and 47.8% for the other one.

In Clark County it's 54.4% to 44%.

When does DeJoy get thrown in jail?

Theme song for the 2020 election

Because, R473, we are a shithole country. There, I said it.

Kornacki said in some Midwest county they halted the count at 10 pm and went to get their beauty sleep. In others, they're counting through the night. In PA and maybe in MI they couldn't count the advance mail in ballot before the polls closed, by law passed by the Repubs there. It's a total mess of laws and rules and shenanigans.

[quote]DL fave Harry Enten now on CNN.

A fave no more after all these bullshit polls he's been feeding us. He can only make up for it by presenting his

FFS John King works for CNN and one of their main concerns is RATINGS. This is major night for them, to help set ad rates. You think he's going to get up and say "well that's it it looks like it's going to X"?, r478?

He's paid to build suspense and keep viewers hanging on. He knows full well that the numbers still show a good lead in WI and PA and probably MI, once all the votes are COUNTED.

Everything is playing out the way it was supposed to, per all the polls the past few weeks. He was never going to get FL, TX, or OH - those were pipe dreams. He came (is still) damn close in GA and NC - those are gains. AZ is a huge pickup. We'll know tomorrow.

Where do we stand in WI currently? How was the Dem voter turnout in Milwaukee? I heard it was very high in Madison. Look to the counts in the cities. What's outstanding there.

The most sickening thing of all. Mitch got his SC seat AND kept his majority. Everything you know and love is lost for a generation. No court reform. Chuck Schumer needs to be primaried and voted the fuck out. He picked LOSERS.

R475 - Your very welcome. Of any reporter, on any network, the one for me is Phil Mattingly. Hands-down. Adorable.

Thanks for your good work, and keeping us informed during this election cycle, Poll Troll!

r461

I’m demanding a refund from Theresa greenfield. That bitch got killed. Where’d my money go?

CNN just showed 83% counted in WI - what's left in terms of what's still out there, where are these votes. I'm still positive it's going to Biden.

I'm also watching the Senate races. CO and AZ are in the bag - what's up with Susan Collins's seat in Maine? Did Gideon pull off the upset. Did Cunningham beat Tillis, has this been called? That was a needed pickup.

Please remember that in the event of a 50-50 tie, the VP votes to break it. A Democratic VP (Kamala) gets the win. We add DC as state early on, we have the majority.

So hate to be Debbie Downer, but people dont realize if Trump wins, it's not just another 4 years, he is going to be unchained with unlimited power and full of vengeance. He will literally start trying to put people in jail who ever opposed him. Every crime he did he will be absolved of. He will fire everyone and anyone who tries to stop him. Breaking a law? Too bad, no one to stop him. The Department of Justice? NOPE. The Congress? NOPE. The Supreme Court? DONE.

Oh, and good by health care, pre-existing conditions protection, environment, LGBT rights...Hello religious fanatics our new overloads.

Susan Collins won and will be back, thanks for your concern.

[quote]The most sickening thing of all. Mitch got his SC seat AND kept his majority. Everything you know and love is lost for a generation. No court reform. Chuck Schumer needs to be primaried and voted the fuck out. He picked LOSERS.

Are you the crazy MARY who's been all over these threads tonight, posting all the hysterical nonsense? Chill I feel like slitting my wrists just from reading all this gunk, then I go to the news sites and get better news.

Mitch does NOT have the majority yet, and it also depends on who wins the presidency. Kamala will be the tiebreaker in the event of a 50-50 Senate split - and ALL it takes is that ONE vote to put the Dems in the driver seat.

Thanks, R489. : )

I only wish the polls had been more accurate tonight. I'm a bit upset with the polling industry. : (

PA governor just tweeted that there's still over 1M mail-in ballots to count.

Biden is currently at 2,807,917

Trump at 2,095,895

Trump would need 800,000 of the 1,000,000 remaining votes to win Pennsylvania. The odds of that are almost nil.

R492 I know — imagining what Trump will be like when he doesn’t have to worry about getting re-elected — it really is frightening.

Also pissed that Dems are paying the price for following the rules and not knocking on doors and having the ground game of the Trump team.

I can’t believe anyone actually believed a shithole like Texas would turn blue. It has AT LEAST another three presidential elections to go.

I can’t believe anyone actually believed a shithole like Texas would turn blue. It has AT LEAST another three presidential elections to go.

Obviously, a lot of people lied when asked who they would vote for. This result already shows that this country is hugely ignorant and overwhelmingly racist.

Maine has only counted 60% of its vote r493, per the NYT just now, and there's only a few points separating Gideon and Collins. No one has called that race. I also don't believe GA is fully done counting, there is one runoff that will happen and a possibility of the other also going that way. RIght now Perdue only has .8% above 50% and I believe if he falls below 50% they have to go back in.

God dam post office is throwing away many ballots, monstrous cheating!!!!

Louisiana voters have decided to amend the state's constitution by adding language that expressly states the document offers no protections for a right to abortion or the funding of abortion, CNN projects

[quote]CNN just showed 83% counted in WI - what's left in terms of what's still out there, where are these votes. I'm still positive it's going to Biden.

Wisconsin is gone. Sorry.

[quote] Obviously, a lot of people lied when asked who they would vote for. This result already shows that this country is hugely ignorant and overwhelmingly racist.

No, what it shows is don’t trust polls.

Roe v Wade May have cost Democrats more votes than the Civil Rights Act

R496 what numbers are those. They don’t look right. Just trying to see where the race in PA is at and why you’re confident.

r496 ffs where are you getting your numbers - from TWITTER? There are currently nearly two million outstanding votes to count, not just a million. The governor was referring to mail in ballots possibly in Philly only, there is a lot more out there statewide.

Biden only needs to capture half of that to win PA, and the mail in vote is heavily skewed Democratic. That's why Herr Fuhrer is trying to effing stop it being counted. Sit tight please, and pls post better numbers and data. Don't panic.

The USPS should be investigated for all the tossed mail-in ballots.

And that judge should hold DeJoy in contempt for refusing to follow his ruling, and LOCK HIM UP!

Wisconsin has Biden down by 95,000 BUT absentee ballots are not yet counted in Milwaukee, Kenosha, and Green Bay.

No, Wisconsin is not "gone."

People, go look stuff up for yourself, there are a lot of posters on at this hour of the night who just want to argue or make you feel bad.

[quote]Roe v Wade May have cost Democrats more votes than the Civil Rights Act

FFS quit posting this NONSENSE. It's gibberish. Go to bed and come back tomorrow a bit more refreshed.

“ Democrats have got to learn how to get people out of the house to vote, regardless of who is heading the ticket.”

The problem is much of The Democratic base is fraying with black men, Latin men, Black evangelicals, defecting, or believing Democrats are just as bad as Republicans. Additionally, a huge percentage of the Democratic is lethargic or uninterested in politics, unreliable voters.

[quote][R496] ffs where are you getting your numbers - from TWITTER? There are currently nearly two million outstanding votes to count, not just a million. The governor was referring to mail in ballots possibly in Philly only, there is a lot more out there statewide.

From the governor himself, you fuckwit shitstain troll-ass piece of crap.

He didn't say "in Philadelphia only," go fucking look it up yourself you absolute waste of carbon.

r512 you're a bitch and you're dealing with a bigger one. the NEW YORK TIMES is showing PA still very much in play, with 1.9 million votes still outstanding. That is is total line with what CNN and the mainstream outlets are also reporting.

Stop with your negative nancy nonsense and don't troll here. And post your links, or shut up. LINK please as we say.

R496 were your numbers in your post the current mail-in ballot numbers that have been counted for pa?

The Latinos in the Rio Grande Valley pushed Trump's margin there. Local people on twitter were saying he'll get get more of their vote than 2016, and they were right.

Polling is accurate the vast majority of the time, and politicians and campaigns pay a lot of money for their own polling.

But pollsters underestimated the Trump vote tonight. Pollsters did take extra precautions to weight for education and non-college white voters after 2016.

But the National polls look more off in 2020 than in 2016. The National polls were pretty close in predicting Hillary would win the Popular Vote by about 2-3 points. However it looks like Biden's popular vote lead is going to be much less than what was projected. I'm disappointed int he National vote polls tonight.

r512 your Twitter link has no link to a tweet from the PA Gov (Wolf?) with those numbers? Post a direct link to the tweet please, not a full LA Times thread.

President Trump is still outperforming his 2016 margins in counties where the COVID-19 death rate was highest.

Why is polling so bad?

Just joining in. Please back up. So, Trump has won??

No idiot.

R496's numbers are backwards.

[quote]Just joining in. Please back up. So, Trump has won??

NO HE HAS NOT.

Thought I'd yell that to make the point clear. We won't know until tomorrow or maybe even Thursday, the way the count is going.

R496 has the numbers from Decision Desk HQ, nothing has been updated since then as far as I can tell.

They're posting about both PA and WI which I think is confusing.

Cuomo needs to bareback film while we wait.

Joining in.

MSNBC is stuck at Biden=220 Dump=213 Electoral votes

PollTroll I hear you, but how much outstanding urban vote is still out there on the table?

I know the late polls showed a 10+ lead for Biden toward the end of the campaign, but that was always really high. If he wins by a solid 4 to 5% in the popular vote, that was always more reasonable a prediction.

I'm Norwegian. Can someone please give me an update on Biden's EVs, how many he's lacking and how to get them. Which states does he need to win? Is it even possible?

R519 - Because people lie. They do one thing and say another. Shy voter syndrome, or, just to be pricks in order to confuse outcomes.

Wisconsin has reportedly 169,000 mail-in ballots left, not 1M. There's not much chance Trump will get enough of the 169K ballots to win but we'll see.

PA has 1M absentee ballots per the governor but I see others saying it's up to 2.2M. I'd think the governor would know, so maybe he means half of the absentee ballots have been counted?

MN=Biden

I posted in one of the many earlier threads over the last month that I thought the cheating from Russia this time around would focus on the Senate seats. Look what happened. Are the Democrats, oh, I don't know, going to say or do anything about it this time? Or, are we just going to say 'well, shucks' and let the 20+ years of Repug cheating continue forever?

[quote] People, go look stuff up for yourself, there are a lot of posters on at this hour of the night who just want to argue or make you feel bad.

Or you could just log off if this is making you feel bad. Probably best you do that than make yourself depressed.

PollTroll, it’s not so much polling itself but the way polling is now used in the media that has frustrated a lot of people. Too much emphasis on forecasting rather than analyzing— at least, that’s my impression.

Have we really not had any update on PA's numbers since 10PM last night?

The most recent I can find is Trump 1,717,648 and Biden 1,357,851.

If there's 1M to 2M votes left then the state is completely up in the air.

Trump got his buddy DeJoy to dump thousands of ballots in FLA. That's why he was so cocky about it.

Replying to @destaanieee 300,000 ballots are missing in Florida. The post office defied a judge’s order

R529 or ballots are being tossed out.

@Taniel @MegJonesJS One of the underreported stories at this point is if you look at the turnout map of the red counties in Michigan with not a lot of voters, most of them at are about 110-120% of expected turnout.

[quote]Wisconsin has reportedly 169,000 mail-in ballots left, not 1M. There's not much chance Trump will get enough of the 169K ballots to win but we'll see.

Christ on a Cracker CNN and Chris Cuomo just reported that there are 169,000 mail-in ballots for Milwaukee alone, NOT the entire state. There is only 60% of the overall vote left to count in Green Bay and environs also, and that includes their mail in and absentee votes. It's tight but going down to the wire, there's still stuff left on the table.

With the cheating, R537, I wouldn't be surprised if they had turnout 110-120% their entire fucking populations.

I worked the polls in Las Vegas. We had a lot of mail ballots dropped off. Almost to overflow of the boxes. Also, the voting was very heavy Democratic Tuesday. We had long lines of mostly black and Hispanic younger voters. A steady stream of voters until we closed at 8PM. When we opened in the morning at 7 AM we had a glitch of the kiosk computers for an hour. So we made up the difference by staying open an extra hour because we were supposed to close at 7 PM.

[quote]Maine has only counted 60%

NOPE 85% reporting as of now. GOOGLE

Collins 50.0%

Gideon and Collins 42.5

It looks like Ms. Concern is going to win and not even in a run off.

[quote] Nate Silver should be hung in Lafayette square so we can all throw rocks at him.

See. I toldja. This is why we need to keep those statues standing.

[quote]President Trump is still outperforming his 2016 margins in counties where the COVID-19 death rate was highest.

I'm glad hundreds of Trumpsters are going to keep dying every single day. I'm so sick of their shit.

If I get COVID, I'm going to go to the next red county over and cough in old people's faces. Fuck it.

Speaking of cheating, I didn't expect Biden to win Florida because it's always GOP corruption central around there, but I feel like all the talk of Hispanics voting for Trump in droves was perhaps a cover to explain the massive turnout for Trump by FL Latinos.

I get that there are evangelicals in the Latino community who would love Trump but the exit poll numbers seem way, way off.

So then I guess it will be Biden to contest the results? MSNBC is not acknowledging any cheating/tossed ballots.

R521 thank you, sorry. No need to shout r523 but thanks. I'm relieved he hasn't won yet.

Maybe Democrats should not have blown their wad on Black Lives Matter and focused on white rural voters. Do you want to win or lose over and over by keep doing what you did.

Why would Biden contest the results when all the accounting has not been completed yet.

Which states are left to count? How are the dems doing there?

I wonder if these ballots ever got mailed? This is in Florida. They were mostly from a heavily Democratic area.

I wonder if these ballots ever got mailed? This is in Florida. They were mostly from a heavily Democratic area.

I just woke up ... I have no words.

The Russian disinformation machine is running on heavy overload on this thread.

Even the daily mail in UK is sayin the us post office played a big part in fukin up this election. wtf with our media ignoring it largely?

From MSNBC a couple of minutes ago:

Milwaukee election officials just arrived at the courthouse with their absentee data. It could take roughly half an hour to upload and announce it.

[quote]NOPE 85% reporting as of now. GOOGLE

Google isn't a media or new source, it's a search engine. POST the link to the source or note it or get out of here.

CNN just reporting that Wayne and Kent counties in MI still have much vote outstanding, to be counted, much of it mail in and heavily Democratic leaning. Wayne county of course is Detroit and Kent is Grand Rapids. We need to WAIT.

[quote]Maybe Democrats should not have blown their wad on Black Lives Matter and focused on white rural voters.

They didn't focus on BLM and Biden very much DID focus on rural white voters and white working class, as is obvious in the voting results.

The Trump team outreach to FL Hispanic voters was completely on point, sad though I am to admit it R544. Those numbers are genuine. That’s a lesson both sides should pick up.

How many votes would that be, R555, do you know? Would we be close to getting a result for the whole state once those are announced?

R548. Just saying this is what MSNBC is reported it now.

[quote] They didn't focus on BLM and Biden very much DID focus on rural white voters and white working class, as is obvious in the voting results.

This is laughable. No, he didn’t,

*National Vote*

BIDEN 67,078,845 votes (49.8%)

TRUMP 65,271,627 votes (48.5%)

Lord knows how many ballots are still in post offices across the country.

Even when the polls are far off, DLers in the bubble at least could find out what’s happening outside the bubble if they were willing to listen. As we all know over the last several months, any attempt to inject truth about what was happening was batted down by those who explicitly indicated that they only wanted the type of rose-tinted news that polling companies dished up to satisfy their consumers.

[quote]The Trump team outreach to FL Hispanic voters was completely on point, sad though I am to admit it [R544]. Those numbers are genuine. That’s a lesson both sides should pick up.

The autopsy on Miami-Dade results will be extensive, on how the Biden campaign did so poorly compared to Hilary in 2016. This is where FL was lost, not the "red counties" or the I-40 corridor. I'd be interested in this analysis. Did Trump do well with younger black males and male Latinos as was rumored?

Hell, going back to Kerry and Gore bein robbed of a win, the Dems never protest a damn thing, they do jus go shucks and twaddle off...pathteic.

R559, 170k according to this:

[quote]Though Trump carried a lead of more than 100,000 votes into the early hours, almost 170,000 absentee votes from very Democratic Milwaukee were yet to be counted, along with votes from the city of Kenosha, Green Bay and from other communities.

Biden seems like he's lawyered up and ready to fight. I hope so.

The media now on every channel, and their dipshit analysis of what went wrong, nary a word about CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING being the root cause.....i dont get it.

Wow, so WI has 170K from Milwaukee alone, plus Green Bay (which hasn't reported anything yet) and Kenosha.

Republicans in Wisconsin mailed in 43% of ballots compared to 36% of Democrats. 94% of the count is in here and Trump is still up 4% as he has been all night. I've stated numerous times Biden wouldn't win Wisconsin but was insulted and mocked.

Do we know anything about Nevada and Georgia?

Meant to type "I-4 corridor" in r565.

FUCK! Did Dems just lose Michigan? These f-ing stations are NOT updating with new results.

The lines were ridiculously long with ethnics/Dems voting....how could Biden not have swept the states better??? Cause thousands of ballots were tossed thats why,

Don’t worry about Nevada, it’s blue.

Yeah, WI is not happening based on the recent data. Shame.

Can't wait for 4 more years of Trump shit show and Dems "virtue signaling" to 8 years of Ivanka Trump's presidency starting 2024.

[quote] Obviously, a lot of people lied when asked who they would vote for.

That’s possible that some people responded with a false answer, but other possibilities are that pollsters are not reaching or including some part of the Trump electorate, and the pollsters are overly manipulating the raw numbers to get a result that seems more accurate to them.

[quote] 've stated numerous times Biden wouldn't win Wisconsin but was insulted and mocked.

R571, oh your poor little snowflake. Insulted and mocked on a site known for mocking everything? The horror of it all!

Where is the 8% of the GA vote outstanding? Is that in Fulton and the ATL area? That is potentially a lot of Democratic tally right there, but it's hard to say without knowing what's outstanding and where.

Same with WI and MI - it all matters where that outstanding vote is from. We knew the mail-in ballots would be counted last in many cases, and those are heavily Dem.

CNN finally calls HAWAII for BIDEN.

The rightwingers are always whining about being insulted on Datalounge. It's because they don't know what Datalounge really IS, they're just clueless trolls with thin skins.

[quote]I get that there are evangelicals in the Latino community who would love Trump but the exit poll numbers seem way, way off.

That's not it. The problem is everyone keeps lumping Cubans in Florida into a global definition of Hispanics. They are almost opposite on the spectrum of politics. AKA Marco Rubio. The reason is not religion, it's the fact that most of them are imagrants from a dictatorship country that used socialism to control them. Trump's team knows that and blanketed the radio down there with adds in spanish calling Biden a socialist.

The other reason which is more fucked up is their right to citizenship. If you leave Cuba for the US, once you set foot on land, you have the right to stay indefinably. Basically become a citizen. No boarder, no papers, no background checks nothing. They have this fucked up sense of entitlement and free ride other immigrants like say those from Mexico don't have. In fact they look down at them as they are "illegals" but they are the righteous citizens. They do not identify with them at all.

The media needs to stop calling them Hispanics, they really need to be called Cubans.

r571, thank you for trying to get the word out ahead of time.

DAMN IT! CNN shows Dump ahead in popular votes.

Biden takes lead in Wisconsin by about 2000 votes.

Republicans are excellent at messaging. They threw out the word socialist which is untrue about the Democrats. But the Democrats don’t say anything to counter that charge. Republicans are corporate welfare socialists.

The WI results for Biden reflect some of the Milwaukee ballots, I don't think we know yet if it's ALL of their absentee ballots.

Remember other blue areas in WI aren't in yet and will probably add to Biden's lead.

Wisconsin is NOT lost, folks.

Well there you go r586! It's very thin but we'll take it. There's still about 5% left to count.

Again, let's WAIT until making crazy declarations.

CNN reporting Biden=224 Electric Dump=213

Not a snowflake dear, that all you whiny bitches r582. I know exactly where I am, so you can fuck right off. Here, I TOLD YOU SO! You like that better? SEVERAL of us called a Trump victory but no, you knew better! Now you're eating shit, how does it taste?

R580, Karl Rove thinks that GA could spoil Trump party. That's because almost all outstanding votes are in Atlanta and Fulton.

[quote]it's the fact that most of them are imagrants from a dictatorship country that used socialism to control them. Trump's team knows that and blanketed the radio down there with adds in spanish calling Biden a socialist.

Someone in the previous threads described how when they set foot in FL, they immediately start asking about welfare and benefits. Why doesn't anyone tell them that they're literally asking for socialism?

Well, this just proves to me that pollsters are worthless and full of shit. They' re not worth the money.

Also, Democrats have a problem. I don't know what it is but it's a problem. Were I a Republican, I'd actually feel pretty good. Republicans are holding the Senate, Judges, Supreme Court... life is good!

R574 Source?

What states must Biden win to get 270?

Did Trump get NC? I’ve been keeping up with Reddit but they are giving me anxiety. Praying Michigan turns blue!

That's what I thought r592, if it's all in Fulton and ATL then Biden has a VERY REAL SHOT there in GA still.

Everyone needs to read the board and sit tight, it ain't over until it's over and I'm going to keep repeating that.

Nevada leaning Biden.

Go ahead, stone me, but Biden was a piss poor candidate for us Dems....

Where's the next thread guys? We need a Part 5 - thanks to anyone who's done it or will do it.

Any news on Georgia?

In actuality, the ballot counting has really just started in the battleground states.

R585, Biden currently leads Trump in the National Vote by almost 2 million votes.

BIDEN 67,461,710 votes (49.9%)

TRUMP 65,483,486 votes (48.4%)

[quote]Republicans are holding the Senate, Judges, Supreme Court...

If Biden wins, Mitch won't be able to confirm any more judges starting Jan 20.

[quote]SEVERAL of us called a Trump victory but no, you knew better! Now you're eating shit, how does it taste?

If you're rooting for Trump what the fuck are you doing on this thread? No one is eating shit here Rethug moron, because nothing is done yet and Biden is UP in the electoral count right not, inching close to 270.

BREAKING Biden takes the lead in Wisconsin:

Biden 1,551,268 49.29% Trump 1,549,127 49.22%

3,147,142 votes counted. Estimated >95% in

Part 5

PollTroll at r604 that's more like it! I don't think all the CA and west coast precincts have reported raw vote totals, so that count is sure to rise a lot over the coming hours.

I wouldn't be shocked if Biden ends up a solid 3 to 4% up in the popular vote when all is said and done.

Thanks r608 see you there....

[quote]Someone in the previous threads described how when they set foot in FL, they immediately start asking about welfare and benefits. Why doesn't anyone tell them that they're literally asking for socialism?

Exactly. Because the Cuban population down there dose not really care about actual ethics or philosophical consistency. It's all about whatever I can get and fuck everyone else. Sort of like low level criminal behavior. There's a reason the remake of Scarface went from being about Italians to Cubans.

It's simpler than that R450. Conservatives own all the t.v. channels. This is one area they do not delegate.