Jessica Yaniv sues to be in beauty contest

Don't be lookist.

“Injury to dignity and FEELINGS? On Mary. This just can’t be an actual legal basis for damages in any jurisdiction.

^^Oh Mary!

Kill it. Kill it with fire.

She was hoping to take the title for Miss Fat Fucking Pig.

Beauty contest!? She looks like Fortune Feimster!

Kiwi Farms is having a field day with this news

Donald Trump Wants his hair back.

I wish this ugly whore would just go away.

He’s not trans. He’s a pedo. He abuses the legal system, he harassed and even shut some women’s salons down and he’s unattractive.

Seriously, Fuck this person.

This is your future, Honey Boo Boo.

Bring on the swimsuit competition!!!

How this thing managed to escape arrest is beyond me... He put out feelers online for underage girls to attend topless pool parties.

[quote]Kiwi Farms is having a field day with this news

Hmm...

Yaniv is a litigious, mentally ill man who self-identifies as a women in order to use the law to force women to touch his male genitalia. He's got a reputation for this in BC and now, it seems, he's pulling the same shit in a different province.

If Jessica says she’s a woman, she IS a woman

Self ID is very important to preserve trans folx sense of dignity

Miss Taken Identity

This person really is a trash bucket human being. Google them to see how much of crap they have done.

Trans Women's Rights Now!

R9, he IS trans. Being trans just means being delusional and identifying as the opposite sex. Actually, I'd say he's the epitome of the entire trans rights movement.

She looked like a man. All the time like a man.

So Brave!

If you have a penis - you're a man.

If you have a vagina - you're a woman.

If you have a penis but feel you are a woman you are in mid transition.

So shit or get off the pot.

What happens if you call Jessica a he on social media?

Does it short circuit and spew white liquid out of it's mouth?

Did she ever find someone who was willing to wax her vulvis?

Vulvis. You’re killing me. V U L V I S ?

So it’s another fat guy in a dress...meh.

Loathe him

Perhaps if they bring back the $1.98 Beauty Show...

He/ She/ It is miserable on the inside, and clearly on the outside. He/ She/ It is in His/ Her/ Its own hell.

Fuck him.

This is the same one who sued because a salon refused to wax his ladycock in Vancouver?

It's a cult full of authoritarian narcissists.

Yes, R30, it is. She sued several of them for not waxing her male bits.

Too bad Donnie boy is no longer owner of Miss USA -- think of the meme possibilities.

I can’t stand this guy.

I asked zir consent, then grabbed zir girldick. It was fabulous.

She should study ballet.

This thing identifies as a beautiful woman, accept it without question!

If she like yng girls, she should just bump uglies with Stefoknee

Do you have any idea how long it took me to repress all memory of Stefonknee, R38? And now you've gone and reminded me.

I'm sure the other women in the pageant would hate having to compete against a piece of ass like Jess.

Couldn't they just explain to her they didn't have a farm animal category in the pageant?

She needs to display her beauty at county fairs. They always have an agriculture exhibit where you can view all sorts of beasts of burden.

It's Canada, so I'm not surprised there have been no criminal charges that stick. What I don't get is what this person lives off of. Even if all the salon extortions had been successful, at most that would have brought in ~$40k. Who can live off of that over several years? And there's no way that Trusted Nerd "company" brings in any money.

Dr Phil cares about your feelings, I don’t care about your feelings.

It's Lorie Daves!

R42, he lives off of disability and other public assistance.

Check out this video where he gets up from his mobility scooter to threaten reporters. Then his mother places a tray of coffees on the scooter's seat (it's a prop anyway). There is another video of him chasing someone while his walker rolls away, which he later dashes after. He's a grifter and a menace.

This is one POS human....

^^^Jesus, that picture. It's like Jim Belushi slapped lipstick on himself.

Well, they do say beauty is in the eye of the beholder; that's far too much to behold.

Well, they do say beauty is in the eye of the beholder; that's far too much to behold.

Chrissy Metz will be great in the Hallmark Channel biopic. This role is her to a T

World's Ugliest Dog 2020

I can’t stand trannies. Always high drama, high maintenance, and a 24/7 need for attention. They should’ve just been gay, so they could live a normal life.

He just want access to those women. If the pageant was full of guys like him, he wouldn't be interested at all. Yes I used the pronouns that match his sex, because they made genders irrelevant jokes.

Jonathan is the Poster Boy of the Predatory Men’s Rights movement known as transgenderism. The silence from the supposedly *good*, *normal* trans-identified men who should be vociferously condemning him, while they harass, stalk, get fired, beat up, threaten to rape real women with their “girl dicks”, and lobby to eliminate sex based legal protections for women and gays, tells everything anyone needs to know about the trans agenda.

She's lovely.

It's interesting that JY switches between male and female identities, depending on what he is doing. Seems he files lawsuits as a "transwoman" though.

The dude has been arrested several times for attacking a reporter, and I believe had weapon charges filed as well. He is constantly calling the police even when he is the attacker.

The clip of the hearing was interesting. I didn't realize that he was now claiming to be trans- intersex as well. Along with his penis and testicles, he has a vulva as well....

It's her lived experience.

Watch the fraudulent shitbag fly into a rage and let his walker go... then sprint across the parking lot to retrieve it—almost like he doesn't even need it to walk.

r23 you get banned.

TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS

Even Helen Keller could get the net that Jessica doesn't belong in a beauty contest.

What's up with that hag cunt mother? She's aching for a beat down if she's gonna keep putting her hands on people.

They both have a long history of assault, R62.

They tried to sue a gynecologist for refusing to take them as a patient.

This is why they hate them.

Is Yaniv her real surname? Is she Russian?

So, who should be Xiss Trans “Woman” 2020? Yaniv? Aspiring serial killer and serial rapist, Barbie Kardashian? That dude who took over a pregnancy forum to LARP a miscarriage “experience”? The Daily Dot trans “woman” columnist who released screeds of himself fantasizing about a future in which all biological women would be imprisoned in rape camps all over every town? The trans “woman” serial killer who was released from prison and immediately began posting, from unknown locations, about his intent to murder “TERFs” with photos of large knives? That fuckwad MtF in NYC who stole TWO council seats that had been reserved for women since the 19th went into effect, in order to ensure balanced representation between the sexes? How about a group award for the thousands of MtFs on Twitter who brigaded JK Rowling with rape and murder threats, when they weren’t busy getting other women banned from the platform and fired from their jobs?

[quote]Beauty contest!? She looks like Fortune Feimster!

He, not she.

Anyone would think that J K Rowling has a very good point!

"I can’t stand trannies. Always high drama, high maintenance, and a 24/7 need for attention. They should’ve just been gay, so they could live a normal life."

It ain't the gay ones who are the problem. In fact, most gay men who transition ARE indeed oppressed and marginalized (as homosexuals and as people of color), and need appropriate legal rights and protections. Sadly, they have been overrun by the much larger number of straight white incels who realized that if they hitched their wagon to this movement, they could become untouchable, unquestionable. And we're right back where we started.

But most of the rad fems hate the gay ones as much as the straight ones.

R15 I know that there are a lot of enemies out there but this self ID nonsense is going to lead to nothing but more crazies like Yaniv that will bring In more trouble and damage trans issues.

All that aside do you really want to take up for someone who has a *very odd* tampon fetish and has been caught talking to underage girls several times? This person also tried to host a pool party for kids starting at 11 years old. Their parents were not encouraged to stay and he made it clear that bathing suits would be optional.

I also suggest you look into what he said and sent to these girls. It wouldn’t hurt to go over how he targeted salons that waxed only women and tried to bring them down and ruin them. Oh, and before you bitch about how that’s unfair many women who cut hair or wax from home only serve women and children during daytime hours. How would you like to be a 125 lbs woman working from home alone only to look up and this thing waddling through your door? It’s not right.

I don’t care if they’re really trans or not at this point (they still aren’t) because this person is obviously a predator that will boldly push issues as far as he can. Whether it’s for a laugh (no swimsuits on kids) or he’s serious he is dangerous and should be treated accordingly.

In fairness, the "Huge Miss Transvestite Cow" pageant has oddly stringent entry requirements.

R58 So not only is Jonathan Yaniv a sexual predator, and a societal nuisance, he's also a complete fucking fraud and living off the backs of Canadian taxpayers. My gods, what a complete and utter fucking waste of life.

One of these days, he's going to fuck with the wrong person, and he'll deserve whatever he gets.

R65 I’m not sure. His mother speaks with a thick accent and going by the name and features I always assumed Eastern European. Could well be Russian.

Remember when he was making the rounds here as Jonathan Yaniv? He harassed women and did reviews on sex toys. Mostly female sex toys.

He is the type that is giving Parker Posey and her lot firm ground to stand on. Run him off.

[quote] It’s not right.

I'm a gay man.

I'm uncomfortable at the idea a business could chose not to serve me.

R73 I’m surprised he hasn’t beat someone up. Have you seen how he acts when someone is just asking him questions outside court?

A menace.

R75 apples and oranges.

This isn’t about gay men btw.

If these women are working home alone they have every right to screen who they let into their home.

I disagree.

No business should be able to reject a gay man.

R73 Here. R76 I did see the reporter video, yes. People here joke about trans (which he isn't) being mentally ill (which he is), but he needs to be locked up. I predict it will eventually happen...and it could happen for any number of reasons. I just hope he starts a fight with the wrong person.

He / She should just accept themselves as being a dog.

Yes, beauty is objective.

R79 I agree. Someone will pull this fat turds card one day and it won’t be pretty. He fucks with people in the most obvious and cruel manner and people are still defending him?

I can only assume they don’t know what they’re taking up fo. They just hear trans and assume injustice.

She does good work.

The businesses she targeted would also like to refuse to serve gay men who wanted a wax.

I don’t care that Blaire White is edited into this.

This is Yaniv. This is how he talks to underage girls.

R52, Yaniv isn't gay, he's a heterosexual pedophile who has wrapped himself with the rainbow flag.

Lol I remember this creep being obsessed with young girls and menstruation. I'm sure Jessica purposefully looks for vontests/businesses who refuse her in order to kick up a stink, sue and get attention.

Manchelle's latest saga: He's whining on Facebook that social services won't deliver his EBT groceries to his motel room, her Majesty is a delicate flower who trembles at the thought of the Corona!

R83 you are why they hate us. You just want people brought down because they don’t want to wax men. Gay or straight.

In other words they dared to not invite you to the party and you’re going to call the fire marshal and have the party shut down because you weren’t allowed to go to it. If you can’t go nobody can go.

And when you say that these women hate gay men what you mean is that they’re foreigners and you suspect that they don’t like gay men. You don’t know that.

This is like those gay people that won’t go to another baker when someone doesn’t want to do their wedding cake. Stop being entitled. No one owes you anything. We get it, you were picked on in school and now we all have to deal with it.

[quote]This is like those gay people that won’t go to another baker when someone doesn’t want to do their wedding cake. Stop being entitled.

Wow.

R89 do you really want to live in a country where you were forced to do something that you don’t want to do?. Whether it’s because you don’t like the people or agree with what they do or are of another religion… Do you really want that?

If I went into the bakery and even suspected that the people there were homophobic the last thing I would do is press the issue. Why make everyone uncomfortable just to prove a point? You aren’t going to change their minds that way. Not by making them do something that they don’t want to do.

R90, there's a big difference between not baking a cake for someone because they're gay and women not wanting to touch men's genitals.

What's the difference? They're fine touching thousands of other genitals everyday.

Isn't that the albino from "The Princess Bride"?

I really think if you're touchy about touching genitals you should find another business.

Nothing a nice oak 2x4 wouldn't take care of.

R19, I don't get why they insist on making a distinction between "real" trans versus fake trans when all of them are claiming to be something they are not? Where's the logic in that??

R96 is completely right

You bitches have a problem with this, and I don't blame you.... BUT, where was/is all this disgust and outrage when any gym, bar or other institution for MEN was forced to close or allow women? Why do men not deserve to have their own private clubs, gyms, private colleges, etc.?

This is all chickens coming home to roost, not just for out of control feminists, but for misandrists who took the fight too far and eviscerated any social lines between the sexes. This is what we have now. There's precedent for it so the tranny will likely win his case. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for these women who want to have their little beauty pageant. Think of all the men who can no longer commune and have their own places who aren't allowed to anymore by some of these same women who now howl and nash their teeth in rage over the problem they've created for themselves and the rest of us.

Good post, R98.

[quote]I really think if you're touchy about touching genitals you should find another business.

I love touching genitals but I wouldn't touch that beast's for all the tea in China.

The cretins defending Yaniv = trannies with a yen for little girls.

She's purty, let her be in the pageant.

Beauty is only skin deep.

I think this is a great idea, let the whole world see what a mentally ill freak he is.

First comes getting into the pageant, then comes insisting on sharing a room with a fellow contestant, because you're both true women.

Then comes the shared bathrooms and dressing rooms, where he can check the other true women for tampon strings!

Oh what fun will be had!

R104, but he isn’t reported on by ostensibly neutral or left wing media and discussions on social media about him (and the hundreds of equally depraved, predatory MtFs like him) are shut down by the tranny brigade, as this thread will be. People need to understand the money and true motives behind the trans agenda.

R82 Tales of Jonathan's asshatery and vile, predatory behavior have spread far and wide online by now. So I agree in that folks defending him either just don't know who he is and grab at the trans aspect of the situation, or are predators themselves.

It's not a matter of "if", but "when", regarding him fucking with the wrong person. In my opinion, he's worse than Paul "Stefonknee" Wolscht (and I'm sure as hell not defending anything he does or has done). Again: not "if", but "when".

One remark someone made somewhere about Stefonknee stood out for me. Apparently the local MCC church ( the progressive gay Protestant denomination) had befriended her but ultimately had to set up a whole committee in the parish to deal with her and then just abandoned the whole deal. Someone wrote "If the nicest people in the world could not deal with her..."

R31 and that smug bitch doesn’t understand why people don’t want this? NB is bullshit anyway.

I can respect them as a human being. We’re all equals. I just think their lifestyle choices are based on some snowflaky, made-up nonsense.

R91. I completely agree. It’s discrimination. I don’t think people should be able to refuse service based on sexual preference.

I just wouldn’t want someone doing something for me, especially a wedding knowing they hate it and don’t respect me.

If a shop owner wants to be hateful and refuse or discourage service to a certain group of people I think the best thing to do is spread the word and use their competitors.

It may very well be the right thing to take them to court but unfortunately the religious right and the reactionaries are going to use the “gay bully” tactic and just use it as more “proof” that we won’t stop until they bend the knee and our “agenda” is being pushed.

I know it’s ridiculous but that’s how these people think. We are the enemy. They make us and then they hate how we turn out.

You also believe this, R110:

[quote]This is like those gay people that won’t go to another baker when someone doesn’t want to do their wedding cake. Stop being entitled.

What a parasite. Like many Trans, Jessica is mentally ill and has a hatred for women.

R111 I do. Why would you want to take an old Christian couple to court to make them bake your wedding cake? If they just out right refuse you service or wouldn’t sell you a cake at all I would get that. But asking them to cater your wedding? If they don’t want to do that they shouldn’t be made to.

You don’t think that’s just going to breed rancor and resentment especially when they tell everyone at their church and it gets spread through the community and makes the news?

Nice try or knocking my dick in though. Maybe next time you’ll get it.

Do you want to substitute Black for Gay in your argument, R113?

R112 Whatever it is, it has a hatred for society in general because whatever it is, it keeps getting turned down.

He should sue the ugly stick for aggravated assault.

R113 ahh, I knew it wouldn’t take us long to get here! Do you really think that gay people are oppressed the way Black people were during Jim Crowe?

Do you think if one owner of a diner told them that they wouldn’t serve them they could just go across the street and get equal service?

Nah... they couldn’t. I can’t stand when people act like it’s still 1959 out there. I live in the deep South and you would never see behavior like this anymore. They just couldn’t get away with it.

[quote]Do you really think that gay people are oppressed the way Black people were during Jim Crowe?

Yes.

[quote]Do you think if one owner of a diner told them that they wouldn’t serve them they could just go across the street and get equal service?

No. And the same if true for gay men in the same places today.

[quote]Nah... they couldn’t. I can’t stand when people act like it’s still 1959 out there. I live in the deep South and you would never see behavior like this anymore. They just couldn’t get away with it.

Because there are laws in place.

R105, yes I think you've got it. Very astute. I didn't even think of those things but yes this grifter is such a trail blazer.

At some point there really needs to be a reckoning of what mental illnesses are driving the trans movement. Why are people so scared to speak up? I get that the twitter crowd etc can muster condemnation and that they have quite effectively brainwashed many but if enough people did then they couldn't get people fired or imperiled for standing up to the extremists. The gay community stood up to the pedos in the earlier days of the movement and despite not having a lot of political power it made up for it in principle and courage.

r82 I completely agree. Some 12-year-old’s dad is going to tune him up one day and he will act like the complete victim who did nothing at all wrong.

Do you remember when he took really sweet still from Lady and The Tramp and made it a tampon meme and sent it to an underage girl? The one with the spaghetti noodles? I tried to link in a picture but it won’t let me. I’m sure you know it everyone does.

Stefonknee looks mild in comparison and Barbie Kardasian is worse. Very violet. It seems like trans people are either completely normal and just claim to have gender dysphoria or are the most screwed up people you’ll ever meet on the planet. Not a lot of middle ground in that community

I’m sure it posts on here.

Well, this thread is revealing.

Should there be laws preventing business from refusing to serve gay men?

R18 if you really think that gay people are as discriminated against now as they were 50 years ago or to even compare it to what Black people went through during Jim Crowe is making me think we don’t have a lot to say to each other. I don’t like getting into Internet fights. They’re just stupid and at the end of the day pointless.

People do not have the right to treat you badly because of how you were born but respect is earned. No one owes you anything in this life. The last time I checked the bill of rights were still being upheld. It’s not a perfect system but Thomas Jefferson was a lot smarter than any of us here. We actually have made “all men created equal“ a much truer statement then when it was written. And yes I know he was a slave owner. I guess that means we should all just throw over the constitution and become communist.

^than. Now that you view me as a an enemy I look for you to start policing my grammar.

You strike me as very petty. Stay where you are brother. You wouldn’t make it down here.

It's revealing that you usually pretend your anti-trans stuff is borne out of concern for gay men.

Then you just take the mask of completely.

[quote]Stay where you are brother. You wouldn’t make it down here.

I know. I'm a gay man. I'd be killed if I went down there. And really to most swathes of the globe.

I think she's posting now! She's trying to deflect the thread to a discussion of discrimination against gays.

Isn't that why we're supposed to care about her?

She and trans are bad for gays?

R127. ’ll be glad to link in my Instagram for 10 minutes and prove that if Yaniv is in the thread it’s not me

My mother would’ve said she really fills out that dress!

Looks like the resident trans troll is back!

R126 You’re out of touch. I’ve lived down here for 30 years and I’ve never gotten a death threat or been beaten up.

I came out at 15 and a handful of people at school had something to say about it. That’s the good thing about the south, they mostly save the nasty things they say about you for behind your back.

I’m sorry but MARY. Its Tennessee. Not Medina. 🤣

That's great!

So about only those of us who have experienced homophobia discuss, okay?

R75 R126 You are not a gay man. You are a psychotic troll in digital gayface who spends every waking moment of his pathetic life on this website hunting down trans-related threads and flooding them with spam.

Checking this troll's posting history will show you that he is nothing but a deranged homophobic tranny troll with extreme mommy issues that lead to a seething hatred towards women. He shows up in every single thread that is even remotely related to trans and does everything he can to either derail the discussion or shut down criticism.

Some gems from his posting history:

- Says that Bruce Jenner looks better than actual women

- Derailed a thread about a Moroccan tranny responsible for the suicides of multiple gay men

- Thinks little gay boys should be introduced to cross-dressing and drag

- Spends his entire time screeching about women (specially lesbians) and calling them "TERFs", "fish", "dykes", "cis", etc

- Believes all women are narcissists

- Claims that he came here "for Lucille Ball discussions", yet his posting history shows that he's just a miserable troll

This is what crippling mental illness looks like, kids.

No, I'm a gay man.

So beautiful!

She looks like Rosie O'Donnell in a ten dollar wig.

Jackie Gleason in a dress. Child predator wearing a costume.

"And away we gew....."

That mother is an aggressive, enabling old bitch!

Wasn't there a story last year about a man, I think he was Dutch, who petitioned the court to change his legal age to 25 (he was about 60?) because he "identified" as youthful?

Was he successful in that bid?

(Asking for a friend)

R141 Danny Thomas spit-take with that post. I'm 57 and I look 57 and I feel 75....Not really, but I'm not gonna be anything but what I am.

R142 - Alas., he was unsuccessful.

I was thinking of submitting a petition to England's High Court to change my last name to HRH Prince Peter Mountbatten-Windsor because I identify as a British royal.

But after the Dutch court ruled as it did, I thought better of it.

Then I considered a petition to change my name to Peter Death Bredon Wimsey. But I knew no one under 70 would get it.

And then to Peter Pan.

In the end, I settled for Tinker Bell.

You sound very British, R144.

But I guess nothing is as crazy as someone identifying as being chosen by God to rule over people in the 21st century. I wonder if even Miss Yaniv rolls her eyes at the thought of Liz Gotha.

The middle-aged women who make up TERFery would be the first ones to take up age self-ID if it became the law.

R145 - And you sound very American - as in, humourless, thick, and totally devoid of appreciation for irony.

R144

R146 - Only it won't become law, ever, and those "TERFs" know it. Any more than being able to "self-identify" as another race won't, even though the same people who will never allow it are the same luvvies who won't admit that race is anything but a "social construct".

Only certain elite entities are allowed such privileges. Middle-aged women never have been and never will be one of those, hmmm?

Are you a middle-aged British woman? You have started a Royal thread, I see.

All I need is time, a moment that is mine, while I’m in between!

Ms. Trans Fats

What's the point in becoming a woman only to look like a butch lesbian.

Reminds me of this gal:

R102, would you like me to recommend a good optometrist?

This piece of shit and those like him make life much harder for the genuine trans people that just want to transition and then quietly live as women the best they can. And that's sad

I know a few trans people like this, They act (and dress) with quiet dignity and grace. Two things that are foreign concepts to the likes of Yaniv

Oh, I MUST be a middle-aged British woman! After all, who else would be benighted enough to point out how cavalierly society feels toward middle-aged women generally, eh?

You fucking bellend.

Is that British enough for you?

Oh, and as far as starting royal threads goes, I appear to be in quite good company on DL. Why, I'm a piker, I can barely keep up!

"...quietly live as women the best they can."

R154: What does "living as a woman" mean? I know lots of women, and they all live in very different ways.

I’m entering the little miss competition!

You'd think it be to run in the Kentucky Derby.

I have no idea what this is about but she looks very sweet in that OP picture.

R160 Your ass is prettier than her face.

So brave. So stunning.

#TransRights

R123, Homophobia has been around a lot longer than racism. There are countries that still put gay people to death. 🙄

They don't care, R163.

They only pretend to care about gay men when they think it helps their anti-trans arguments.

Less Oppression Olympics and more Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv hilarity.

Gay men objecting to this on Datalounge:

[quote]This is like those gay people that won’t go to another baker when someone doesn’t want to do their wedding cake. Stop being entitled.

Is 'oppression Olympics'.

SO brave! Threatening poor, immigrant women for not having the training nor interest to wax his dick and balls!

Gay men are under attack politically and socially right now. There is now a socially acceptable way of silencing our voice. Until we defeat the newly rebranded homophobia of radical feminism, you'll have to excuse me for not being in a joking mood and objecting to the discussion of our treatment as 'oppression Olympics'.

R125, Many of the "TERFS" and so called "gender critical" crowd are actually homophobic, they pull in a lot of right wing homophobes, and not once have I ever seen them call out any of those homophobes. They're opportunist just looking for a way to take down "LGBT", they don't care if it effects L/G people.

True. I used to think that their defenders here actually were just trying to get rid of the T, then I realized they just want to get rid of the whole thing altogether. In fact, most of them are as homophobic and obsessed with gay men as they are with trans.

I have never seen any of the anti-trans posters here who claim their trans views are borne out of concern for gay men condemn them who confronted with evidence of their homophobia.

If you want to joke about trans people, fine. But there's been zero condemnation of this post from upthread:

[quote]This is like those gay people that won’t go to another baker when someone doesn’t want to do their wedding cake. Stop being entitled.

In fact, it's been upvoted.

Give me a ballsack ultrasound or you're a transphobic bigot who needs to die!

She doesn't hurt me. I don't hate her.

R169. And many are not. I know a number of lesbians, including women who fought for LGBT rights and who were on the frontlines of AIDS activism and caregiving, who simply want some distinctions made between women who were born into and grew up in girlhood, and all that entails socially, politically, and culturally, and those whose inner sense of self leads them to identify as women. A number of them were involved with MichFest for decades and do have legitimate complaints (IMO) about sharing that space with “women with penises.” It’s not entirely generational—I know a talented black lesbian (former student) who sided with the older women who wanted MichFest to remain s space for biologically-female bodies. Since public nudity was an important part of the liberators experience of that space, I don’t think it was unreasonable for them to want not to have to deal with penises for a week ;I mean, who hasn’t needed a break from them?). They usually had fewer or no issues with FTMs as it was much rarer for them to have had bottom surgery (more difficult and expensive). Why FTMs would want to attend a Womyn’s Music Festival is harder for me to diss our, but they no doubt had reasons and my understanding is that they were usually permitted to attend and treated with respect. As politically incorrect as this is to say ;and I am a cis white gay man—I don’t use “cis” much, but here yo clarify), my experience is that most men (myself included) were raised with some degree of gender privilege (and I am hardly a model of high masculinity), which, combined with the aggressiveness testosterone (even if adjusted through hormone therapy) leads many MTFs as entitled as any cis-makes. (And no, I don’t hate my own sex).

R169. And many are not. I know a number of lesbians, including women who fought for LGBT rights and who were on the frontlines of AIDS activism and caregiving, who simply want some distinctions made between women who were born into and grew up in girlhood, and all that entails socially, politically, and culturally, and those whose inner sense of self leads them to identify as women. A number of them were involved with MichFest for decades and do have legitimate complaints (IMO) about sharing that space with “women with penises.” It’s not entirely generational—I know a talented black lesbian (former student) who sided with the older women who wanted MichFest to remain s space for biologically-female bodies. Since public nudity was an important part of the liberators experience of that space, I don’t think it was unreasonable for them to want not to have to deal with penises for a week ;I mean, who hasn’t needed a break from them?). They usually had fewer or no issues with FTMs as it was much rarer for them to have had bottom surgery (more difficult and expensive). Why FTMs would want to attend a Womyn’s Music Festival is harder for me to diss our, but they no doubt had reasons and my understanding is that they were usually permitted to attend and treated with respect. As politically incorrect as this is to say ;and I am a cis white gay man—I don’t use “cis” much, but here yo clarify), my experience is that most men (myself included) were raised with some degree of gender privilege (and I am hardly a model of high masculinity), which, combined with the aggressiveness testosterone (even if adjusted through hormone therapy) leads many MTFs as entitled as any cis-makes. (And no, I don’t hate my own sex).

I'm a cis gay man.

I have zero privilege.

[quote]And many are not.

A small number are not. Homophobia is endemic to the movement and whenever someone points that out you dismiss it.

[quote]I know a number of lesbians, including women who fought for LGBT rights and who were on the frontlines of AIDS activism and caregiving

The only people on the frontlines of AIDS activism were gay men.

R170, I think they were expecting us to just ignore right wing homophobia in favour of trans homophobia because, according to them, apparently "we're all in it together" 🙄

[quote] I am a cis white gay man—I don’t use “cis” much, but here yo clarify), my experience is that most men (myself included) were raised with some degree of gender privilege

There's the problem: you don't fundamentally believe gay men are oppressed.

[quote][R170], I think they were expecting us to just ignore right wing homophobia in favour of trans homophobia because, according to them, apparently "we're all in it together" 🙄

They will sometimes select and call out homophobia from a trans person -- which we all should and do -- but then when confronted by a hundred more instances of it by rad fems they just chose to ignore it.

There is no male privilege held by gay men. That you think there is why we don't really believe you get or care about homophobia.

Radical feminists are not homophobic. But you, misogynist troll at R180, R178, R177, R169 and on and on and on, are a woman hating pig once again spreading your lies and hate for women all over this forum. Get lost.

Sane, informed gay men and women see Yaniv and the trans extremists for what they are . . . almost all STRAIGHT autogynephilic males, i.e. MEN.

[quote] Radical feminists are not homophobic.

Of course they are.

Do you want receipts?

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I see the Trans brigade has arrived pretending to care about gay rights. Please. There is no LGBT. There is a Gay Rights Movement which the homophobic Trans want to see erased.

Jessica Yaniv is not an individual you should be defending. He displays the worst qualities of someone born a male.

R173, imagine being a woman or girl alone in a rest room or changing room with the likes of Yaniv. Read R162's link, Yaniv doesn't even bother to conceal the fact that he has a fetish for young girls, menstruation & voyeurism. It's just a matter of time before Yaniv attacks a female.

R175, Lesbians who were part of the radfem/gender critical crowd have said the same thing and have been dismissed for speaking out. Excuse me if I'm wary of those who claim they are concerned for the well-being of young gays and lesbians only to turn around and accuse us of being pedos/ groomers, bad parents, and indoctrinating kids into LGBT.

It is true to say there are obvious conflicts between gay rights, trans and women's rights BUT this isn't going to be resolved by opportunists looking to fan the flames of bigotry.

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[quote] [R173], imagine being a woman or girl alone in a rest room or changing room with the likes of Yaniv.

I’m not trans. I have no desire to imagine being a woman.

Johnny's period (read: explosive diarrhea) has started. Quick, somebody get him an XL tampon!

R185 R186 It's not a "brigade" - it's literally just a single troll (mentioned at R134). This nutcase has posted over 40 times in this thread already. Block him and a quarter of the thread disappears.

[quote] I see the Trans brigade has arrived pretending to care about gay rights. Please. There is no LGBT. There is a Gay Rights Movement which the homophobic Trans want to see erased.

Rad fems want it erased too.

[quote]Jessica Yaniv is not an individual you should be defending. He displays the worst qualities of someone born a male.

But nor should we consider criticism is gay rights. Her work in going after businesses that won’t serve gay men is good.

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R190 Why are we all supposed to go along with his fetish role playing?

The more MTFs I see twittering away about their growing breasts and very real periods, the more I roll my eyes.

It's too much mind twisting away from reality.

R182, You know what I'm really over radfems calling me a misogynist every time I point out their homophobia lol. It didn't work the first time and it's not going to work now. Sane gay men can see right through this charade.

Haven't said anything here about Yaniv.

R189: "I'm not trans".

You are, however, a complete retard who's posting obsessively on this thread.

R193 They are REAL periods. How dare you, transphobe!

WARNING: Graphic.

He could always win first prize at the county fair pig show.

R196 Jesus H. Christ that is something else. I thought I was pretty unshockable but that is a new level of derangement on display.

Overheard at my work canteen (pre_COVID):

Woman, jokingly: 'My tits just get in the way when I'm doing xx' New transgender FTM: 'But you are lucky - I've always been so flat-chested' Beat as everyone within hearing thinks: 'Yes, because a few months ago you were a skinny bloke in jeans and t-shirt'.

Wasn't she "Svim Vare"?

[quote]Her work in going after businesses that won’t serve gay men is good.

Yeah, Yaniv is SUCH an ally to gay men. 🙄

Here, JYS is threatening to kill a gay man who dares to get too close to all that femininity:

Yes, let’s call that out. I do.

And let’s call out the homophobia from rad fems too. You don’t.

[quote]Yes, let’s call that out. I do.

Like fuck you do. You're JYS's biggest cheerleader on Datalounge.

[quote]And let’s call out the homophobia from rad fems too. You don’t.

Why would I? You seem to be OK with spearheading that campaign here on DL, and this is a thread about JYS, not homophobic rad fems.

No, I always condemn homophobia -- whoever it's from.

And why would you call out homophobia from rad fems? Because it's homophobia. But I see you're not pretending to care about that anymore.

There was a thread specifically about homophobic from rad fems and you FFd it.

JFC. Even that GameStop creature has more of a chance of First Runner up.

If the winner, for any reason, cannot fulfill her duties 1st runner-up takes over.

[quote]I always condemn homophobia

Yeah right. Except when it's from the Stunning and Brave™, since they're such amazing people and exponentially better than us. Transphobia caused their homophobia, I guess.

[quote]There was a thread specifically about homophobic from rad fems and you FFd it.

I don't even know what thread you're referring to. Link? I'm not of the habit of F&Fing threads, and I don't block people.

[quote] Yeah right. Except when it's from the Stunning and Brave™, since they're such amazing people and exponentially better than us. Transphobia caused their homophobia, I guess.

I always condemn homophobia from trans. And I don't think they're better than gay men. I believe gay men should rule the world and the rest of humanity should serve us.

[quote]I don't even know what thread you're referring to. Link? I'm not of the habit of F&Fing threads, and I don't block people.

This one. There were two others expressing similar sentiment I can think of that have been Muriel'd. That's because women outnumber gay men on DL now.

I'm totally willing to be anti-trans actually.

But I've never encountered a good argument as to why that would help gay men.

Every time I ask how trans women affect me I get some answer about 'womyn's sports!!!' or some BS.

Oh, a thread that hasn't been posted on in 15 days. Got it. I think I read the thread but definitely didn't post in it. I'll read it again now.

At least that one hasn't been nuked. R205 mentions Macho Ma'am Tranny Savage. When that video went viral, every single thread created about it was Muriel'd in record time. It was pretty hilarious actually. As was Ma'am's declaration right after knocking over the display stand that the entire LGBT community would descend on GameStop. I hope you did your part in your support of this marginalized and oppressed person.

So the pigs have managed to walk on just 2 legs?

[quote]Anything else that I've allegedly done?

Do you want to state that you're opposed to homophobic from rad fems? I see you still haven't done so.

Do you want to engage with any of the points raised in that thread or at the link at R192

I OPPOSE HOMOPHOBIA FROM RAD FEMS.

Are you happy now? Happy happy happy?

Cool. Now do you want to acknowledge the prevalence and inherent nature of homophobia within radical feminism?

Sure, I guess. Now what else about feminism do I, as a gay man, need to acknowledge or denounce in order to be a Good Gay Person?

You actually kind of remind me of a gay male version of Chanty 'Big Red' Binx, now that I think of it.

Not all feminism, just Radical Feminist.

Read up on it, as I hope you’ve done on Trans Rights.

Feminism was historically hostile to gay rights.

Aren't there like, Ugly Olympics somewhere?

Block it r214, as someone mentioned up thread it’s the trans troll that says the same thing over and over again. You will see all of its insane responses disappear.

I am starting to wonder if it really is McKinnon/ivy posting.

He's here!

She doesn't have mirrors at home, that's for sure

r220, HE.

This bitch is missing the concept. It’s a BEAUTY contest. Hence beauty you need to have it. Why isn’t anyone telling her she’s NOT beautiful. She looks like mama June and the kid from Bad Santa had a baby.

This will now be the new normal.

R223 NO, it's not and will never be.

There were transgender women on beauty pageant contest before but they look like the standard contestant on a beauty pageant. You can't expect the world change just to adjust to what you want.

It's like body positive messages, when you say this is my body and i love it, that's perfectly fine, when you say this is my body and if you don't find it attractive you are a bigot, you should be ready to a big dissapointment

R224, if we don’t remain vigilant and outspoken on this topic, it will be the new normal. Yaniv successfully sued poor immigrant women in Canada, under hate crimes laws, who refused to wax his balls. The homophobic, misogynist, predatory dogma at the heart of the trans movement needs to be loudly denounced and exposed.

Finally figured out who he reminded me off....

[quote] Yaniv successfully sued poor immigrant women in Canada, under hate crimes laws, who refused to wax his balls.

He wasn't successful. Google it.

R227, he bankrupted several women out of business, women who were working out of their homes to try to feed their children. Google it.

[quote] he bankrupted several women out of business, women who were working out of their homes to try to feed their children.

That's true, he did. But he didn't win his case which is something at least. There should be a GoFundMe page for the victims of Yaniv the Predator

Meanwhile, poor Manchelle seems to be getting crazier by the second, does he really think this is a flattering photo?

r230, he also thinks he's female; all of his perceptions are skewed 180° from reality. When other people experience those symptoms, they get diagnosed with a delusional disorder, not encouraged to see how far they can take their delusions.

She has a strong chance of winning the World's Ugliest Dog contest.

She has a strong chance of winning the World's Ugliest Dog contest.

Hey, let's reboot [italic]the Ugliest Girl in the World[/italic]!

She wouldn't even be considered a looker if she were in that Twilight Zone episode with the pig faced people being the norm.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[quote][R227], he bankrupted several women out of business, women who were working out of their homes to try to feed their children.

But she didn't win. So it's fair, right?

Can’t wait to see the camel toe!

Trans ‘women’ are men.

She's not Beauty, she's the Beast.

R240 why not both?

He is a sexual predator, a pedophile and the posterboy for everything wrong with gender ideology being made law.

Can I sue to be a major heir to past, present, and future Rockefellers of any financial consequence?

Common in Thailand.

I don't see why she shouldn't be allowed to enter. She won't win unless Helen Keller and Stevie Wonder are on the judging panel, so why not?

R243, Trans Winner, Donald Trump, is suing for legal recognition of his delusion that he’s a winner.

Lookism and fatphobia need to be banned from beauty contests.

I'm sorry, but unfuckable people don't belong in beauty contests, no matter what they are or who they are.

She doesn't actually give a shit about competing, she wants to lumber around backstage with the other women while they get ready, asking them for tampons and being just gross in general.

God. She makes Poo Shoes look almost attractive

Fat, ugly, and a bigot. What's to like.

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He. Jonathan Yaniv is a man with a dick, balls and XY DNA.

[quote]I don't see why she shouldn't be allowed to enter. She won't win unless Helen Keller and Stevie Wonder are on the judging panel, so why not?

The rules for that particular contest Yaniv submitted for states that any transgender entrant would have had to have undergone gender reassignment surgery. Yaniv has not.

He looks like he smells like ass.

But rad fems would also like to ban trans women who HAVE undergone surgery from the contest. So what's the point?

Anyway, a beauty pageant just seems dated to me now. I remember when dykes would be fervently opposed to the existence of such a thing, now they've just turned towards trying to ban trans women from them.

If you were male and genuinely thought you were a woman and lived in a country where you could get the most male part of your body amputated for free, why would you not go ahead and chop off your cock and balls to relieve all that *gender dysphoria*? Why is it that only 5% of trans identified men have any kind of genital surgery? Wouldn’t your dick constantly remind you that you’re a man? If they don’t have gender dysphoria, why are lobbying to undermine sex-based legal rights that women and gay people died to attain? It’s almost like they’re all predatory homophobic misogynist straight guys with cross dressing fetishes who, like nearly every man, would rather die than lose his dick.

The surgery is incredibly damaging, R256. In my opinion it should be outlawed, or only allowed in limited cases.

Notices like these are going around the city where JYS lives, especially in women's public washrooms and on the store shelves containing feminine hygiene products. Hilarious.

Targeted harassment -- a common feminist tactic.

Boo fucking hoo.

Is this the person who wanted to have a sleepover with underage girls?

A pool party, R261. With their parents not permitted to attend.

“Lady boy? I ordered a Laz-E-Boy! What kind of gentleman do you think I am?”

R256 In college (2001-05) multiple straight girls confessed to me that they dated/fucked guys who had a fetish for dressing in women's clothing and doing things like going to lesbian clubs. I think they thought I'd understand because I have an "alternative" sexuality, but it weirded me out.

"Jessica" is one of those men. He just found a way to use social justice language to live out his fetish 24/7 and force others to participate.

I think that's why I sympathize: we're both 'other'.

Public Safety Alert. Kudos!!!

We're not taking this shit.

Any update?

Wasnt this creature cancelled for being a pedo?

MY EYES!

She has a point.

COVID, People losing jobs and loved ones, Real struggles.

THEN we have this Fucking Ugly Morally Bankrupt POS.

All the orgs that once fought to allow us to get married, not lose our jobs for being gay, hell even helped decriminalize gay sex, now fight for this. How sad.

You get suspended from Twitter for saying a A Transwoman is a man but not for being a p'ophile.

Many trans proudly proclaim themselves as MAP - a minor attracted person - in other words a P'ophile. Pure and simple. They actually put it in their Twitter profile with no repercussions.

Fuck Twitter.

This.

R274, that's about work place discrimination. The Court made it clear that sex related distinctions in other areas was not being decided and that there may be areas where distinctions would be reasonable and rational and therefore allowed.

The ACLU and others are spreading misinformation about Bostock to make the public believe the issue of ans has been resolved in all areas. It hasn't. Once again the trans community and its extremist advocates lie. Reality is not their strong point and they need to be called out as the liars they are.

Why do so many trans "women" look the same?

Grifters gonna grift.

bump... what is jessica up to these days?