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Trump supporter shot and killed during dueling rallies in Denver

Further escalation of our Troubles.

This time it was "BLM-Antifa Soup Drive" vs. "Patriot Rally." This is an almost identical situation to the dueling rallies that keep happening in Portland.

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by Anonymousreply 17210/17/2020

Am I mad at that?

by Anonymousreply 110/10/2020

Oh well

by Anonymousreply 210/10/2020

The article says that the man who shot the other wasn't part of the BLM-soup drive protest. What they said was "not Antifa," but that's such a stupid word. How can they make that judgment at this point? The relevant point is that this wasn't a duel between opposing sides, at least not according to the article.

by Anonymousreply 310/10/2020

Such garbage people. On both sides.

by Anonymousreply 410/10/2020

[quote] What they said was "not Antifa," but that's such a stupid word.

[quote] How can they make that judgment at this point?

First you say it's a stupid word. Then you wonder how that judgment could be made. Which is it? What are you trying to say? What connection does sentence one have to sentence two?

Get lost, Boris. You have no business here.

by Anonymousreply 510/10/2020

It is what it is.

by Anonymousreply 610/10/2020

The shooter was obviously defending himself...like Kyle. Right, Mr. Trump?

The MAGAt is literally spraying shit at him.

by Anonymousreply 710/10/2020

The shooter was obviously defending himself...like Kyle. Right, Mr. Trump?

The MAGAt is literally spraying shit at him.

by Anonymousreply 810/10/2020

BLM is today's Black Panthers.

by Anonymousreply 910/10/2020

Who organized it?

Ukrainians?

Belorussians?

Like the ones who organized the Portland truck parade?

by Anonymousreply 1010/10/2020

R5,

"Not Antifa" => how would they know? That's my point. I think you're missing some brain cells if what I wrote makes you that angry. You're incoherent.

by Anonymousreply 1110/10/2020

Why doesn't Boris worry about violence in his own country?

by Anonymousreply 1210/10/2020

Womp womp

by Anonymousreply 1310/10/2020

R10, it's all the same shit once you go past Germany

by Anonymousreply 1410/10/2020

R11 you didn't answer any of my questions. As usual, lots of words but you say nothing.

by Anonymousreply 1510/10/2020

The shooter was a private security guard who was there working for a local news station. It is being investigated as a homicide.

by Anonymousreply 1610/10/2020

The security guard was a psycho. ๐‘ฎ๐’ ๐’‚๐’‰๐’†๐’‚๐’…, ๐’Ž๐’‚๐’„๐’† ๐’Ž๐’† ๐’ƒ๐’“๐’. ๐‘ด๐’‚๐’„๐’† ๐’Ž๐’†! ๐‘พ๐’‰๐’‚๐’• ๐’‚๐’“๐’† ๐’š๐’๐’– ๐’ˆ๐’๐’๐’๐’‚ ๐’…๐’? ๐‘พ๐’‰๐’š ๐’…๐’๐’โ€™๐’• ๐’š๐’๐’– ๐’Ž๐’‚๐’„๐’† ๐’Ž๐’†.

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by Anonymousreply 1710/10/2020

R16 Is local news reporting that? The Denver Post article minced words like crazy, I could barely figure out what happened.

by Anonymousreply 1810/10/2020

[quote]Such garbage people. On both sides.

No one on teh Antifa side shot him, shithead. The same can't be said about Trump supporters with guns or cars.

by Anonymousreply 1910/10/2020

the*

by Anonymousreply 2010/10/2020

That security guard was street trash and deserved to die.

by Anonymousreply 2110/10/2020

Here's the flyer for the "BLM-Antifa Soup Drive" which doubled and tripled as a communist book fair and counterprotest to the "Patriot Rally:"

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by Anonymousreply 2210/10/2020

Soup Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 2310/10/2020

So many lies. A counter-protester wearing a "Black Guns Matter" shirt was in a verbal argument with a group of patriot LARPers. There was a bit of a scuffle, and the guy with the mace threatened the local media producer who was filming them off to the side. He started spraying his mace because they wouldn't stop filming him and the security guard shot him in self defense.

This info is from a source in the Denver PD. Or does that "thin blue line" only matter when they support your narratives, Boris?

by Anonymousreply 2410/10/2020

Link please. Fuck off with your Boris nonsense, please and thanks.

by Anonymousreply 2510/10/2020

Wow just how many Russians are on this thread? Or is it just the same troll?

by Anonymousreply 2610/10/2020

What a coincidence. Right before Trump's Florida rally Monday.

by Anonymousreply 2710/10/2020

It was a private security guard who was not affiliated with Antifa or BLM.

by Anonymousreply 2810/10/2020

R25 The Denver Post, 9NEWS Denver, Denver Westword, Washington Post, KMGH Denver, and a whole metric fuckton of other news sites have the story. Search Denver on twitter. It's not hard to find and I don't need to post a link because you are too afraid to find out that maybe Andy Ngo and Charlie Kirk and every other ghoulish right wing opportunist may have got this one wrong by reflexively tweeting what they wish would happen rather than what actually happened.

by Anonymousreply 2910/10/2020

R29 You do need to post a link.

by Anonymousreply 3010/10/2020

And notice the right-wingers drove up from El Paso County which is Colorado Springs = Christian MAGA central in Colorado, home to Focus on the Family and gay-hating preachers who get busted for sucking cock.

Fuck'em. Colorado will go Biden and both senators will be Dems.

by Anonymousreply 3110/10/2020

The shooter and someone else affiliated with 9news were apparently following some of the conservative protestors around asking to be maced. When one of them did it, the security guard shot him.

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by Anonymousreply 3210/10/2020

[quote] Wow just how many Russians are on this thread? Or is it just the same troll?

The Russia shit has gotten old. Just call them what they are: Jews for Hitler or Gay Conservatards.

by Anonymousreply 3310/10/2020

Yeah for the security guard.

by Anonymousreply 3410/10/2020

Chilling photo of the shot as it happened. There were apparently many people milling around calmly when this took place.

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by Anonymousreply 3510/10/2020

I guess God wanted him to die. It was God's will.

by Anonymousreply 3610/10/2020

The lead up to the shooting:

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by Anonymousreply 3710/10/2020

More pushing and shoving.

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by Anonymousreply 3810/10/2020

WTF?

by Anonymousreply 3910/10/2020

[quote]The shooter was a private security guard who was there working for a local news station.

Why would the news station hire a private security guard? The only people attacking journalists are the police, otherwise protests have been peaceful. A private security guard isn't going to save journalists from police attacks.

by Anonymousreply 4010/10/2020

R40 Maybe you answered your own question there.

by Anonymousreply 4110/10/2020

R40. Are you not aware that MAGAs hate the Press? FAKE NEWS!

by Anonymousreply 4210/10/2020

R8 I'm sure you're going for some kind of knowing irony, but pepper spray is by definition non-lethal and would not justify a shooting in self-defense.

Colorado law also specifies that you cannot be the aggressor and then claim self defense.

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by Anonymousreply 4310/10/2020

The 9news cameraman:

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by Anonymousreply 4410/10/2020

R35, someone should shoot you for using that Fascist dirtbag as a link.

by Anonymousreply 4510/10/2020

R45 Go ride a dildo and calm down.

by Anonymousreply 4610/10/2020

Good.

by Anonymousreply 4710/10/2020

I donโ€™t know why anybody would want to go to these protests as there are too many crazies on both sides..,

by Anonymousreply 4810/11/2020

Here's what happened

a group of racist right wingers were yelling at and trying to intimidate a single black man (in a Black Guns Matter t-shirt). The man who was eventually shot (fat racist) wanted to fight the black guy but some older white racist got between them. In the video you can see a journalist (or maybe another security guard) in a royal blue t-shirt come up a little bit behind the black man. Possibly to see what the argument was about. Standing next to him was the Pinkerton Security Guard. You can barely see him in the beginning of R38's video. About 3 seconds in

On R37's video you can see the fat racist move away from the black man and go toward the Security Guard. 5 seconds later you hear the gunshot

Going by the Getty Images photos, the fat racist came up to the security guard. And in 5 seconds he hit the security guard in the face, then maced the guard and then he advanced towards the security guard (you can tell because the guard had been standing about 1 to 2 feet away from a red strip of concrete. You can see the fat racist standing on the red strip on concrete in some of the photos, which means he advanced towards the guard

then the security guard shoots him and about 20 police officers are literally 15 seconds away and run over and the guard puts the gun down, gets down on his knees with his hands up and drops flat on the ground

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by Anonymousreply 4910/11/2020

[quote] The shooter and someone else affiliated with 9news were apparently following some of the conservative protestors around asking to be maced. When one of them did it, the security guard shot him.

You're a piece of shit liar R32

A group of men wanted to fight one black man. There's video of it

by Anonymousreply 5010/11/2020

No one is covering the protests. Daily Mail leaked this first with a massive headline. I looked at every outlet including Faux News. Nothing was reported after the initial incident. It appeared about 3 hours later after the DM on CNN, etc. The other protests in Wisconsin are not being covered either.

by Anonymousreply 5110/11/2020

R49 Where did you get all that information from? Did you dream it?

by Anonymousreply 5210/11/2020

R50 Post a link to the video.

by Anonymousreply 5310/11/2020

R51 There are Twitter riot reporters in Wauwatosa, I'm not aware of any mainstream outlet covering violence at riots at all this summer. If you only read the NYT you'd think it was the summer of1967 again. A lot of clueless Boomers do.

by Anonymousreply 5410/11/2020

"Asking" to be maced? Come the fuck on.

They were a news team following around a bunch of terrorists because it's newsworthy, in case you haven't noticed. They had security with them and apparently the Trumpster posed a threat, so the Pinkerton guy shot him.

I very much doubt the reporters were threatening these home-grown terrorists. There's nothing to indicate that's the case.

by Anonymousreply 5510/11/2020

These protests and marches are accomplishing nothing--except maybe turning more and more people on to Dump's law and order mantra. They should cease and desist for now.

by Anonymousreply 5610/11/2020

There is no "Anitfa." Otherwise, I'd be on their email list.

by Anonymousreply 5710/11/2020

These protests were started as part of the GOP/KGB's plan for a race war. CV19 and the lack of violence from the BLM protestors foiled that. We were supposed to be in a full on civil war by now, in time to halt the election and allow Barr to institute all kinds of heinous shit. Team Dump's focus on orchestrating all of that is part of the reason they 'dropped the ball' on covid.

by Anonymousreply 5810/11/2020

[quote] Post a link to the video.

Videos are at R37, R38, and pics are at R49, which describes what happened

There's other videos on Twitter

by Anonymousreply 5910/11/2020

This wasn't a BLM protest, Ivan Ivanovich at R56. It was a "Patriot Muster" by the same group who protested in Denver in July and had run-ins with the cops.

Meanwhile a second group started a BLM-Antifa Soup Drive a half an hour later, in protest against the Patriot rally. They're a small group calling themselves "Denver Communists" and they have a few hundred followers on social media and that's about it.

The problem was that people like Andy Ngo and Ian Miles Chong were ranting and raving about the Soup Drive for days before the event. The press got wind of it and local media warned that there might be a confrontation... and there was, because the "Patriots" had gotten riled up about a handful of kids showing up at a "counterprotest soup drive," as if that was some kind of threat to them.

Here's a cached version of a thread where some rightwing scumbags are talking about how these commies are just trying to get people used to soup lines if Biden wins, etc. etc. Stupid stuff, but this is the propaganda that was out there before the shooting.

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by Anonymousreply 6010/11/2020

R59 it's a guy in a Black Guns Matter T-shirt yelling "Mace me nigga!! Mace me!" in some conservative looking people's faces while they mill around and look agitated.

by Anonymousreply 6110/11/2020

Thank you to the people who have started posting links.

by Anonymousreply 6210/11/2020

Auntie apparently thinks this makes her look bad, not knowing that she never looks good.

by Anonymousreply 6310/11/2020

I feel for the poor security guard. Lets not allow him to be a scapegoat when clearly he was being attacked by a substance unknown to him as mace. Could have been any number of caustic poisons. I would have shot the person spraying at me had I been in his shoes.

by Anonymousreply 6410/11/2020

Poor man. So terrible for his family.

by Anonymousreply 6510/11/2020

[quote] "Asking" to be maced? Come the fuck on.

Actually there was a black man who saying, "go ahead and mace me"

But the context of it was that he was alone and 5 to 7 fascists surrounded him in almost a full circle and the fat guy (who got killed) was trying to physically intimidate the lone black man. The fat guy was saying he was going to beat up the black guy, who replied, "come on". Then fatso pulled his mace out and the black guy said, "come on"

The security guard did not ask to be maced. He didn't enough time to do anything. I'm not sure if the black man knew the security guard or if they were connected in any way

by Anonymousreply 6610/11/2020

Evidently Pinkerton guards have a racist and shady history

They provided security for businesses during the very first labor strikes. They like to rough up labor union members on strike

by Anonymousreply 6710/11/2020

Good. Iโ€™m glad Fatty got popped.

by Anonymousreply 6810/11/2020

Hillary warned you that these incidents would happen with Trump.

by Anonymousreply 6910/11/2020

Not many of you even clicked OPs link before you even posted, huh? Get it together Datalounge. This ainโ€™t TWITTER.

by Anonymousreply 7010/11/2020

People losing their lives for Dump, who doesnโ€™t give a shit about them. Idiots.

by Anonymousreply 7110/11/2020

R66 As you can see in the pic in the OP, the guard already had his gun drawn and pointed while he was being maced.

by Anonymousreply 7210/11/2020

Ooops

by Anonymousreply 7310/11/2020

[quote]Actually there was a black man who saying, "go ahead and mace me" ... Then fatso pulled his mace out and the black guy said, "come on" ... The security guard did not ask to be maced.

Not sure why you pulled an "actually" here when you yourself know no one asked to be maced.

You also know the guy up thread said that the press being there meant they were "asking to get maced," which has nothing to do with any of your "well actually" excuses.

Speaking of mace, you can see the hand of the guy who was killed in the now-famous photo of him being shot, it's covered in bear mace already, I don't think the Pinkerton was the first guy to get maced by him. Maybe the canister just had a leak, I dunno.

by Anonymousreply 7410/11/2020

R74 There's video upthread of one of the 9news guys literally asking to be maced. Verbally.

by Anonymousreply 7510/11/2020

Better video of the "Shoot me," "Mace me" guy. The internet has identified the shooter as Matt Dolloff.

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by Anonymousreply 7610/11/2020

Denver Police press conference this morning:

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by Anonymousreply 7710/11/2020

Isnโ€™t โ€œfat racistโ€ the guy who de-escalated the fight? If so why did he randomly attack the Pinkerton?

(By the way, Iโ€™m frankly amazed I even had the opportunity to write โ€œthe Pinkertonโ€ just now.)

What is โ€œblack guns matter?โ€ Iโ€™m having a hard time following the fast-developing lunacy in this country.

by Anonymousreply 7810/11/2020

I'm Jewish and I find some Jewish news sources to be very balanced b/c there are both liberals and conservatives so something like the Jewish Journal has to tow a very moderate, slightly left leaning stance. The editor was saying that the worst case scenario would be if the right wing started antagonizing the left and then both sides start responding to each other with guns. Support protests, hell if you need to, support riots, but lets not support gun violence on any side. This when things can turn from bad to race war and we don't want that.

by Anonymousreply 7910/11/2020

R78 I follow the protests and riots closely and I've never heard of it either. Some googling tells me it's a 2nd Amendment group aimed at getting young black men gun licences. They appear to be associated with the Libertarians (?)

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by Anonymousreply 8010/11/2020

Why is everyone calling the security guard a "Pinkerton?"

by Anonymousreply 8110/11/2020

R78 Going theory is that the guy who died maced the shooter because the shooter had already drawn his gun.

by Anonymousreply 8210/11/2020

The shooter looks to be very handsome, no? Beautiful hair.

I really hate that โ€œFuck around and find out!โ€ expression. Bernie Bro nutjobs kept saying that (and made it into a meme) back when they were telling Democratic voters that they had to choose Bernie in the primary because if they didnโ€™t, they couldnโ€™t count on Bernie supporters to support the eventual nominee if it wasnโ€™t Bernie. โ€œFuck around and find out!โ€ STFU.

by Anonymousreply 8310/11/2020

R81 The security guard was employed by the Pinkerton company. Pinkerton has been in business since the Civil War. The founder of Pinkerton foiled an assassination plot to kill President Lincoln and his company was hired to provide security for Lincoln. (Well,they failed that night at Ford's Theater).

Their detectives were famous for hunting down outlaws who robbed trains.

Later, they busted the heads of striking union members.

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by Anonymousreply 8410/11/2020

I feel like people who are bringing guns to protests, especially the right wing, are just dying for any excuse to use it. I don't know the real story of the 17 y/o who killed a protestor. If he was being psychically attacked or if someone looked at him the wrong way and he went trigger happy. The open display of guns does not help anyone.

by Anonymousreply 8510/11/2020

The thing about these right wing demonstrations, including the Proud Boys, is you just gotta ignore them. Showing up to counter-protest just leads to confrontations like this. Itโ€™s not worth it.

by Anonymousreply 8610/11/2020

R85 He and other locals were attempting riot control because the National Guard didn't do it. Search "Rittenhouse" in the search bar and there are videos of the whole incident already on Datalounge. There is a good chance he will be found not guilty on the grounds of self defense, because he retreated multiple times and was chased by his attackers.

by Anonymousreply 8710/11/2020

Whatโ€™s really terrifying is that the Twitter bot accounts were attempting to tweet us into a civil war last night. pro Trump bots and supporters were Trying to bait Trump into taking action, sending in the military. It was largely from pro Trump accounts that are probably Russian but that were claiming that Trump wasnโ€™t supporting his own people and that they werenโ€™t going to vote for him.

by Anonymousreply 8810/11/2020

R87 Rittenhouse wasn't a local. He traveled to Kenosha with his assault rifle looking for trouble.

by Anonymousreply 8910/11/2020

What's a soup drive?

by Anonymousreply 9010/11/2020

Right-wing Twitter is going all-in on Matt Doloff being Democrat/Antifa, as if itโ€™s a trend for Democrats to go around shooting Trump supporters, or something.

Anyway, he is FUCKING HOT.

by Anonymousreply 9110/11/2020

damn, I read that as "during a duel"

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by Anonymousreply 9210/11/2020

R89 He lives in Antioch, IL and worked in Kenosha as a lifeguard (it's about a 30 min drive between.)

His legal team says he and friends from the YMCA were approached by a downtown business owner at work the morning of the shooting and asked to guard businesses from arsonists (this is on day three of mass arsons in downtown Kenosha.)

He was interviewed earlier in the night and shown carrying a medic bag (he's a lifeguard,) a fire extinguisher, and an AR-15. There's also video of him running with the fire extinguisher reportedly to put out a dumpster fire.

Again, search bar.

by Anonymousreply 9310/11/2020

The only think I know about Kenosha is that they have a terrible Renaissance Faire, and I imagined this guy was defending this bastion of White Pride.

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by Anonymousreply 9410/11/2020

R93 He's a killer who should not have been allowed to own an assault weapon. The video of him shooting two men who died is more pertinant than earlier footage of him w/ a fire extinguisher.

by Anonymousreply 9510/11/2020

typo: pertinent ^^

by Anonymousreply 9610/11/2020

At least his mommy didn't have to drive him.

by Anonymousreply 9710/11/2020

An anonymous post on social media this morning from someone claiming they were there (I suspect it's the Denver Post photographer or one of the officers on scene) fills in some details.

The victim approached the shooter and the news producer aggressively. The shooter warned the guy to walk away. The victim raised the can of mace and the shooter lunged at him to grab it. Shooter gets slapped while reaching for the mace cannister. Victim backs up, sprays mace, and shooter fires.

Shooter stated he thought the guy was reaching for or had a gun while being arrested. Not proven yet, but word is victim had an illegal concealed weapon.

Most of the people in the group seen in the video fled.

Not going to post source because it's an anonymous post so therefore lots of grains of salt should be taken.

by Anonymousreply 9810/11/2020

He is TOO SEXY to be a cold blooded murderer. I believe the anonymous post per R98.

by Anonymousreply 9910/11/2020

It is what it is.

by Anonymousreply 10010/11/2020

Americans randomly killing each other in the streets for stupid reasons! With FIREARMS! Who ever heard of such a thing! Somebody moisten my lips with brandy and massage my wrists with eau de cologne!

by Anonymousreply 10110/11/2020

R95 Two guys he shot chased him down, one had a pistol drawn and the other tried to bash him over the head with a skateboard.

The other bum rushed him and cornered him against a wall while someone in the crowd was firing a handgun.

For the lazy, the videos start at R143 in this thread:

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by Anonymousreply 10210/11/2020

The victim with the skateboard was trying to bash the killer with it because Rittenhouse was aiming/shooting at people! We've seen the videos for ourselves. Rittenhouse committed two murders.

by Anonymousreply 10310/11/2020

R102, please fuck off. Rotten house isnโ€™t even sexy.

by Anonymousreply 10410/11/2020

R103 He shot someone who was attacking him, and then was attacked again. The entire thing was filmed.

You want to keep arguing about this, don't you? You're clueless.

by Anonymousreply 10510/11/2020

I had not heard of Black Guns Matter until this incident.

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by Anonymousreply 10610/11/2020

[quote]Two guys he shot chased him down, one had a pistol drawn and the other tried to bash him over the head with a skateboard.

Because he was carrying a rifle.

[quote]The other bum rushed him and cornered him against a wall while someone in the crowd was firing a handgun.

Because he was carrying a rifle.

by Anonymousreply 10710/11/2020

I blocked the pro-Rotten House cunt, I suggest you do, too.

by Anonymousreply 10810/11/2020

When Rittenhouse is exonerated then R108 will practice self immolation in boiling lard.

by Anonymousreply 10910/11/2020

I must've already blocked that person because the post after yours isn't showing, R108.

by Anonymousreply 11010/11/2020

[quote] the Jewish Journal has to tow a very moderate, slightly left leaning stance

You TOE a LINE. As in you put your feet so that your toes are just touching the line. You don't tow a stance.

by Anonymousreply 11110/11/2020

Different person. Blocking cunt @ R109 now, too.

Cunt at R109: Itโ€™s not going to having any bearing on my life either way. Just donโ€™t want to have to read idiotic defenses of that right wing piece of shit murderer.

by Anonymousreply 11210/11/2020

R112

Please TikTok your meltdown.

by Anonymousreply 11310/11/2020

The protests are peaceful.

by Anonymousreply 11410/11/2020

An armed Pinkerton guard shot the guy because he was attacking the guard.

Donโ€™t fall for disinformation.

by Anonymousreply 11510/11/2020

Victim and killer have both been officially identified.

The shooter is Matt Dolloff, who according to the article works on a ranch and raises sheep and dogs in Eastern Colorado. No mention of Pinkerton.

The victim was Lee Keltner, a professional hatmaker.

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by Anonymousreply 11610/11/2020

Lee Keltner interviewed in his studio. I think it's important for everyone to understand that a human being with a soul was murdered yesterday. He was an artisan.

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by Anonymousreply 11710/11/2020

Also, a quibble about this whole Pinkerton thing- I find no mention on their website of them being in the security guard business.

They appear to be strictly crime analytics and security consulting.

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by Anonymousreply 11810/11/2020

"Because he was carrying a rifle."

Lot of people have shown up at these fucking protests carrying firearms. If some assholes attacked him simply for "carrying a rifle" then THEY should have been arrested.

by Anonymousreply 11910/11/2020

The victim had an agenda. He was looking for a fight and found it. His way of life is in decline and he should have accepted it.

by Anonymousreply 12010/11/2020

[quote]Shooter stated he thought the guy was reaching for or had a gun while being arrested.

Not sure if the Pinkerton guy said this, but in photos it does look as though the guy who was shot was reaching for something inside his vest with his left hand. It's hard to tell with just still photos, but it's very plausible that the Pinkerton truly did think the guy had a gun.

by Anonymousreply 12110/11/2020

During the Presser today cops said they recovered TWO guns from the scene.

by Anonymousreply 12210/11/2020

NY Times picking it up.

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by Anonymousreply 12310/11/2020

Getty has more pics up

Fatty sees the security guard and his "friend" off to the side and the friend is filming it. Fatty gets upset and goes over to them trying to grab his phone. Security guard tries to keep fatty from attacking his friend

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by Anonymousreply 12410/11/2020

R123 Only took them a day and a half. Some editor probably saw it here. Pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 12510/11/2020

Fatty slaps security guard and knocks off his sunglasses and hat

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by Anonymousreply 12610/11/2020

R124 I can't believe, after we know his name and little about who he was, you're calling him fatty. That's evil.

by Anonymousreply 12710/11/2020

This Pinkerton shit is some sort of jargony Antifa thing that isn't based in reality. Pinkerton no longer provides security guards, and according to the Denver Post Dolloff wasn't a licensed security guard anyway.

The Pinkertons were last relevant Pre-WWI- also the last time anarchists were relevant. I think it figures into some sort of internal mythology to associate the Pinkertons with this guy. It sure as hell isn't factually accurate.

by Anonymousreply 12810/11/2020

"Trump supporter shot and killed?" He's wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt, isn't he? Isn't that what his t-shirt says? I'm confused about this.

by Anonymousreply 12910/11/2020

It looks to be a riff on BLM, R129. Not sure what it actually says. Something snarky, no doubt.

by Anonymousreply 13010/11/2020

R116, did you even read that article? It mentions Pinkerton right there ๐Ÿ˜‚

by Anonymousreply 13110/11/2020

Fine people on both sides. We'll see what happens.

by Anonymousreply 13210/11/2020

I'd never attend a rally in this day and age.

by Anonymousreply 13310/11/2020

That's what the Trmpsters want. Be afraid. Very afraid.

by Anonymousreply 13410/11/2020

Can't wait til Nov. 4th when the Republicans stop busing these guys to states that are 'in play'.

by Anonymousreply 13510/11/2020

NO, R129.

He's wearing a "BLM: You're fucking right biker's lives matter" t-shirt.

There are a bunch of different versions but his is this one.

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by Anonymousreply 13610/12/2020

Kenosha is a north Chicago suburb. Great Lakes Naval Station nearby. Fancy Lake Forest just south. It isn't a slum area.

by Anonymousreply 13710/12/2020

[quote] This Pinkerton shit is some sort of jargony Antifa thing that isn't based in reality. Pinkerton no longer provides security guards, and according to the Denver Post Dolloff wasn't a licensed security guard anyway.

Yes, Pinkerton does provide security guards.

This guy owns a farm where they sell honey and breed puppies. He was working security to help pay the bills. He had a few posts about Occupy Wall St (when gwb was president) and one anti-trump post from 2016. But his social media is really just posts about his farm

by Anonymousreply 13810/12/2020

Civil war.

It's very clear that's what's needed here. America is a cesspool of hatred. Nothing is ever going to fix it. There will be no concession or compromise.

Everybody hates everybody else. Even president dump is encouraging it. So just go for it! Once and for all sort it out.

by Anonymousreply 13910/12/2020

Denver Post states that armed Pinkerton guard was hired by local news channel for protection.

by Anonymousreply 14010/12/2020

Someone is still trying to claim Pinkerton is Antifa? Good lord, give it up.

by Anonymousreply 14110/12/2020

Fuck off, R139.

by Anonymousreply 14210/12/2020

R90 Apparently a canned food drive that focuses specifically on soup (and sometimes fruit snacks.)

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by Anonymousreply 14310/12/2020

It is very strange and awkward that some of you insist on referring to this guy as "The Pinkerton." It sticks out. If he worked for Garda you would not be calling him "The Garda."

Also, he was not employed by Pinkerton.

by Anonymousreply 14410/12/2020

The Press coverage of this event is appalling. Can they not get to the bottom of this story? Lazy fat whores.

by Anonymousreply 14510/12/2020

[quote] This guy owns a farm where they sell honey and breed puppies. He was working security to help pay the bills. He had a few posts about Occupy Wall St (when gwb was president) and one anti-trump post from 2016. But his social media is really just posts about his farm

Wow, so heโ€™s really just a total sweetie-pie. I like him more and more.

A Bernie Bro, though, no doubt.

by Anonymousreply 14610/12/2020

R138, which social media platforms? I canโ€™t find him on IG or FB.

by Anonymousreply 14710/12/2020

He's not really political at all. He did have one or two Bernie posts. He didn't have any Obama posts and only one trump thing from 2016. From when everyone thought trump was just a jackoff, now we know he's evil

Out of 60 posts (between 2 accounts), 3 were semi-political. The rest were about his farm

by Anonymousreply 14810/12/2020

Where are you seeing those?

by Anonymousreply 14910/12/2020

They took down his personal FB page. He has a farm FB page, Lavender Moon Farms, but DataLounge won't accept the link (even though I just posted R148

by Anonymousreply 15010/12/2020

b/c Pinkerton is famous, R144.

by Anonymousreply 15110/12/2020

R151 I think there are other, more plausible reasons. Call him "The Lavender Moon" since he that's who he actually worked for.

by Anonymousreply 15210/12/2020

R152

I never worked for #Academii because it doesnโ€™t fucking exist!

by Anonymousreply 15310/13/2020

The Antifa killer and his wife

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by Anonymousreply 15410/14/2020

Yikes

by Anonymousreply 15510/14/2020

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by Anonymousreply 15610/14/2020

R154 Well I never, in all my meth!

by Anonymousreply 15710/14/2020

New video from the News9 guy who was being protected by the security guard

The fat fucking fascist was really trying to start something with a black man, he then saw the News9 guy recording them, he went over with his arm up (with mace in it) and was trying to go after the News9 guy and steal his phone, but the security guard stepped in, that's when fatty smacked the guard in the face (knocking off his hat and sunglasses) then fatty started macing him. That's when fatty got what he asked for

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by Anonymousreply 15810/14/2020

Here's the 9news guy's page on 9news' website

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by Anonymousreply 15910/14/2020

R158 You're repulsive.

by Anonymousreply 16010/14/2020

R158 The events you described aren't shown in that video, the camera is pointed at the sky the entire time. Also, you're a demonic cunt.

No one should be dying at rallies or protests for any reason, these situations should not be developing where people are brawling in the streets over politics or political affiliation.

by Anonymousreply 16110/14/2020

I like people who donโ€™t get shot.

by Anonymousreply 16210/14/2020

R154: I bet he canโ€™t wait to get out of jail knowing that heโ€™s got such a hot piece of ass waiting for him back at the ranch.

by Anonymousreply 16310/15/2020

Dolloff will be charged with second-degree murder:

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by Anonymousreply 16410/15/2020

I saw some pictures of the wife on his social media, but none of them were as clear or as straight-on as that one. Sheโ€™s tremendous.

by Anonymousreply 16510/15/2020

I feel sorry for the guy but he still took a human life. We will have to see what evidence comes out in the following months in order to gauge whether he was justified in using deadly force.

by Anonymousreply 16610/16/2020

[quote] We will have to see what evidence comes out in the following months

You must be new to Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 16710/16/2020

The News Channel will pay out big for hiring an unlicensed "security guard.". This will be the bigger story over time.

by Anonymousreply 16810/16/2020

[quote] The events you described aren't shown in that video, the camera is pointed at the sky the entire time. Also, you're a demonic cunt. No one should be dying at rallies or protests for any reason, these situations should not be developing where people are brawling in the streets over politics or political affiliation

Go tell that to fatty's family. They were the ones who were harassing a black man. They were surrounding him and screaming at him

There are other videos and photos showing every single thing I said. You're just too stupid to be able to scroll up and look at them

by Anonymousreply 16910/16/2020

R169 Go daydream somewhere else.

by Anonymousreply 17010/16/2020

Agree, R168.

by Anonymousreply 17110/17/2020

Who cares if a Trumpie was shot and killed? No one. Go concern yourself elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 17210/17/2020
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