Breaking-NYT Has Don's Taxes

Good troll with the non-link, OP.

Here you go:

He’s GOING DOWN.

At the very least this will make him even more of a drug-addled trainwreck on Tuesday night.

[quote]He’s GOING DOWN.

Not for this. Nothing has mattered.

Remember, he said not paying taxes made him smart in 2016.

Oh dang it, the link looked OK when I pasted it in. I'm sorry.

They should take the paywall down for this.

I love that my broke ass pays more in income taxes than he does.

The USA financial system and government in general is rigged by the rich.

His supporters will of course not care less but it may help swing any undecideds out there.

Fuck the Turd, he's fighting like there is no tomorrow. Well, nothing to lose, he might as well just drop dead, the most despised creature in the universe!!!!

He claims to be a billionaire but only paid $750 in taxes???

This is annoyingly written, uncharacteristic of the New York Times. The lead-in is endless. It reminds me of Rachel Maddow’s never-ending supposed tax revelation that turned out to be nothing.

This seems a lot meatier than that but why do they need 10 paragraphs up front that describe how important the info is? Give us the info.

I might be piss-poor, but DL old fat farts are too stupid and unlearned to bypass paywall sites? SAD!!!

“In 2018, for example, Mr. Trump announced in his disclosure that he had made at least $434.9 million. The tax records deliver a very different portrait of his bottom line: $47.4 million in losses.”

The question is, is this 1) tax fraud; 2) a wealthy person exploiting legal loopholes that should not exist; or 3) evidence he is not that wealthy?

I live near Ivanka and Jared, and for a billionaire heiress, her little $4 million abode is kind of embarrassing.

[quote]This seems a lot meatier than that but why do they need 10 paragraphs up front that describe how important the info is? Give us the info.

It's to give Maggie Habermann enough time to craft a both-sides response article.

Now we can see why Trump needs to be President: he desperately needs every dollar he's been stealing from the U.S. taxpayers.

If his complete and total failure in handling COVID didn't cause people to move away, nothing will.

The man could take a stinking shit on the American flag, and his supporters would defend it.

This is going to cause him to stroke out...hopefully, literally.

While you were cleaning your cat's litter box....

Idiotic coverage. They spend paragraphs talking about what the records don't prove, when they should be leading off with the discrepancies between the taxes and the disclosure statements. It's always like this, including the bit where they tried to impeach him on conspiracy theories, and not for withholding documents and witnesses from Congress. 10 bucks says Biden would pardon him, given the chance.

I liked the part that matched the consulting fee deductions to consulting income from Ivanka. Lock them up together!

we

already

knew

R16, the OP of that thread is a Canadian who has been creating anti-Biden threads and sowing seeds of doubt.

Use this thread.

R17, rubbish--Biden has already pledged not to pardon Trump.

He'll say anything, R21, he's under the influence of those presidential campaigb enhancing drugs.

I was SO hopeful somebody would leak these before election day.

October is shaping up to be a stellar month, and it's still September.

Should an impeached president who cheated the USA out of millions of dollars in taxes bej allowed to select yet another SCOTUS justice?

Tune in next month and see!

Please let it finally be happening 🙏

His followers also are now conditioned to dismiss anything reported by the NYT, Washington Post or CNN.

I’ve always said that Donald is telling the truth about having a net worth in the nine- or ten-figure range.

NEGATIVE nine or ten figures.

R17, what conspiracy theory? You sound dumb. He admitted to the shakedown

After he was forced to declare personal bankruptcy, he, once again, stupidly signed personal guarantees for $421 million worth of debt. It's coming due within four years.

Rather, Trump claims he's broke to the I.R.S. so he doesn't have to pay taxes.

What this will do is expose all the lies Trump has been telling the I.R.S. when compared to his properties, spending and lifestyle.

R28, he hasn't declared personal bankruptcy, although he's had numerous business bankruptcies.

I pay more taxes than Trump does!

Donnie's a welfare queen

quote]He’s GOING DOWN.

What? Izz my birseday?

From now on, he shall be known as Deadbeat Don.

It’s time for Michael Bloomberg, a legitimate multi-billionaire, to VISIBLY interpret what the taxes reveal. Bloomberg has called out Trump in the past about inflating his value. He can continue that attack now with specifics. One true billionaire to “another”.

R31, true, my mistake, but he did personally guarantee millions of dollars in debt, bitterly regret that -- and then do it again.

Has MIchael Cohen chimed in yet?

How many of you have had the same level of lifestyle and paid only $750/year in taxes for two years and NO taxes in 10 of the last 15 years? Do we wonder why there is social unrest in this country?

It is not about the tax rate it IS about the tax inequity in this country.

Michael is probably fasting and watching Zoom Yom Kippur services.

No, but Senate Dems have been going all in.

Brian Schatz and Chris Murphy are encouraging $750 donations to candidates should the voter be able to donate.

What do Dennis Quaid and Garth Brooks have to say about this?

The moment Trump starts bellowing about the NYT stories being “fake,” Biden just has to ask him, “OK, so why don’t you release the real ones?”.

[quote] Breaking-NYT Has Don's Taxes

Lois Lerner's IRS had them also in 2016. If there had been anything significantly damaging they would have been charged or at least leaked then.

R43 - trollin' trollin' trollin'

His lying and misrepresentation of himself is no surprise to most of us, I gather. The big deal is the enrichment of himself and family members while in office, which is impeachable.

The Russia conspiracy theory, R27.

[quote] Oh dang it, the link looked OK when I pasted it in. I'm sorry.

Apology NOT accepted FF.

Spent 70,000 on his hair and used it as a tax write-off

This opens the door wide for a completely legal impeachment inquiry.

[quote] This opens the door wide for a completely legal impeachment inquiry.

The last one was not legal?

The last one was inept.

r51, no, you only think it was "inept" because you're a troll

Did you genuinely think the Senate would convict, r51?

They could have him on video and audio releasing nuclear secrets to Russia and the senate wouldn’t have done shit.

Stop trying to win points with Svetlana, R53 troll.

You ALREADY have the shitty Datalounge job.

Ivanka received "consulting fees" that helped reduce the family's taxes

Just a quick note that Biden has paid millions in taxes.

Security clearances are often denied because of substantial personal debt....

Uh, r54, I was calling out r51 for claiming the impeachment hearings were inept, as though it would’ve made a difference.

Do you see Russians everywhere? You should get help for that.

In 2016 and 2017, most white Americans paid more Federal income tax than Donald Trump did.

That’s how to frame this for the racist Trump cultists (excuse the redundancy).

R58, maybe now you should vote for Trump just to piss off the evil Libs at Datalounge, right?

He paid more in hush money to Stormy Daniels than he did in taxes

MSNBC having a field day

Only little people pay taxes.

He tipped his doorman more than he paid in taxes.

[quote] Fuck the Turd,

Scat troll thread

And how can Chris Wallace not bring this up in less than 48 hours?

Every month or so the media gets a whiff of chum in the water and goes batshit, thinking, "This is it- we got him!!". Then it unravels and fades and everything goes back to normal.

Ivanka is implicated in Daddy's tax fraud

Pointing out that the GOP Senate wouldn't impeach Don-don if he was documented handing Putin nuclear secrets while shitting on an original of the US Constitution is hardly trolling behavior.

Personally I thought the House made a great impeachment case in December. Too bad the GOP didn't give a fuck.

Maybe Nancy could impeach him again just for old-time's sake, while slowing down the Senate's SC nomination process.

Well R69 that is the idea. An impeachment from The House stops Senate business except for the impeachment issue. Now, The Senate could vote to not take it up, but this is not frivolous.

Waiting for those devious bitches at The Lincoln Project to skewer him again :)

How are things in Vladivostok, R4?

He's using Deplorable's hard-earned contributions on legal fees.

I wish everyone would just shut the fuck up about Russian trolls. It feel likes 1952 around here.

Yeah, r74, it feels like 1952 with you Trumpsters calling everyone a "socialist"

To posters who are (predictably) saying that this won't matter to Trump's base, nobody is expecting it to, NOTHING will make them change their minds at this point so WHO CARES ABOUT THEM?

But this might make a BIG difference to those still reachable; like swing voters and undecideds who may not like the idea of Trump paying so little in taxes while they always have to pay everything they owe.

Yes, R75, well when I'm not doing the cannibal pedo thing I do call everyone socialists.

R60, seek help. Really.

You obviously haven’t a clue about me.

r69 Once again, the Senate has nothing to do with impeachment. Only the House can impeach, and they did. Never forget.

He's calling it "fake news"

Because of course

[quote]Once again, the Senate has nothing to do with impeachment.

R79, It was the Senate's responsibility to act upon the impeachment, to 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑣𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑚 from office, and they failed to act.

Well, they acted. They voted anyway.

There's always a tweet

Let's be Eric!:

Blah blah Hunter Biden blah blah

Plenty of room under the bus; slide over, Ivanka!

LOCK THEM UP

Trump's henchmen at Der Volkischer Beobachter have already been showcasing his bullshit defense.

Regarding the Ivanka consultant angle: don't consultants usually come from outside a business? I don't know much about consulting, but I've usually seen a consultant used from an outside position. Having Ivanka as an employee & also paying her as a consultant seems shady as fuck.

Its also illegal, r88.

[quote] Waiting for those devious bitches at The Lincoln Project to skewer him again :)

They are too busy campaigning to confirm "eminently qualified" Amy Coney Barrett's Supreme Court nomination.

Trump once cashed a check for under $1.00

r89 is correct

Hurry, Mitch- I need her!

Is R93 a Private Banker?

R93 ummm do they need permission to investigate? The taxes are out. They needed the taxes turned over to them.

Oh, look, Franklin Graham is implicated

Team Joe on it fast! and good!

Hillary knew

The focus shouldn't be on the amt of taxes he paid; they will say it's just smart business. The focus should be on the money he owes and how that lecves him wide open for blackmail and corruption.

Any and ALL

r98, Hillary was right AGAIN!!!!!

And I have one thing to say to the Hillary Haters out there....

FUCK YOU!!!!!!

On a brighter note, look at how badly he's aged since the last debates. He's gone from repulsive to monstrous.

[quote] Let's be Eric!:

[quote] Blah blah Hunter Biden blah blah

🤣🤣🤣

Didn't the Republicans offer him a billion to win POTUS? That's why he turned down the President salary- it would have been chump change.

His only job was to go out every day and cause distractions while they raped America.

Jared deleted all his tweets when the tax story broke

[quote] Didn't the Republicans offer him a billion to win POTUS? That's why he turned down the President salary- it would have been chump change.

[quote] His only job was to go out every day and cause distractions while they raped America.

Link please or stop making things up.

Kushner does have zero tweets now. What are the chances they all flee overnight? Nothing would surprise me.

I love this kid. Don Lemon posted this tonight...

Now I really wait til Donny brings up Hunter in the debate.

DON'T LOOK AT ME!!

FFS...CAN’T wait of course.

But Hillary sent some emails!!!!

Nancy Pelosi got her hair done!!!!

Trump Campaign Manager just attempted suicide. Next week is going to be a shit show.

[quote] Jared deleted all his tweets when the tax story broke

What will he be like in prison? How will he be treated in prison?

THIS REVELATION IS HUGE!!!

he did! lol

Jared just clearing the deck for prison. Like Trump like father like son.

don Jr getting checked on twitter

Now let’s see Ivanka, Jr., Eric’s tax returns.

house of cards, indeed.

The deepest irony to all this, as pointed out on Twitter:

Obama has a higher net worth than Trump.

So do I, r121. And my net worth is approximately zero.

This family stole money from a children's cancer charity--they're banned from operating any charity in New York State because of it. Was that income be reported as income on any of their personal or corporate income taxes? Federal or state?

Rick Wilson

[quote]An actual billionaire in New York once told me “Trump isn’t rich. Trump isn’t a billionaire. He’s a clown living on credit.”

[quote] Now I really wait til Donny brings up Hunter in the debate.

He might need a plan B. Its not working out too well for don jr. on twitter right now.

Front page of Monday's New York Times:

And he isn’t doing any debate prep!

"Do the familial name Conway strike a familiar note?

^^ forgot my end quote in r128 above.

Meanwhile, Miss Lindsey threw a hissy fit about his opponent not releasing his tax returns.

[quote] And he isn’t doing any debate prep!

You can't expect him to prepare for a debate AND plan to flee the country.

He’s really fucked. He’s probably blown through his personal funds, the inheritance is gone and Daddy can’t save him. He can’t refinance those properties because he can’t obtain new financing due to insolvent assets and overextension of credit, there is so much heat on Deutsche Bank they can’t even lend to him anymore. The properties will be in foreclosure by 2023. He probably moved his residence to Florida for the homestead protection laws, so if the house of cards fall he can claim Mar-A-Lago as his primary residence and at least retain that property along with protection from the Republican state government. I think you’ll see him flee to MAL first, then when shit gets really bad to Saudi Arabia, like when he & Ivanka are about to be extradited to NY. I don’t think Russia would be the smart move and they know that, because Putin is too quick to get rid of unnecessary liabilities.

sooooo um yah so its real cute that you hippocrate’s are getting all exited over this #FAKE nothingburg cuz you think none of us patriats was here to Re-member that you didnt say nothing when Obama whore a TAN SUITE were was you’re out rage when he did that shit and nail the finnal coffen on the nail of My Country before President Mr Trump god bless him brot it back and #MAGA and you was all silent than but i was here and i do Re-member and i also got recept’s to proof that you didnt say NOTHING about that much WORST scandel. !!! so now what loosers huh. ??? LOLOLOL. !!!!!

There's always a tweet, part 2:

Trump complains that most Americans pay no income tax

All Trump could tweet was fake news. Sad

Ivanka, you in danger, girl

Real Billionaires: Oprah Winfrey- Bill Gates- Mark Zuckerberg- Warren Buffett- Tyler Perry- Jeff Bezos- David Geffen- Vera Wang- Byron Allen- Jack Dorsey- Steven Spielberg- George Lucas- Mark Bronson- Tim Cooke- Jay-z and Beyonce etc.

Fake wannabe Billionaire: Donald J. Trump!

[quote] He will never be apart of the Billionaires Club!

He'll be forever in the Billionaires' Club?

The entire Trump "empire" has always been smoke and mirrors. And the media has been giving Trump the Billionaire title all these decades.

Trump is a real fraud that conned the entire fucking country and system.

I blame the kiss ass media and public officials in NYC for not going after him years ago when they could have for crimes he committed decades ago. If they had done their jobs, Trump wouldn't be president today.

R139 exactly and where the fuck was the IRS in all this?

Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry can both say something Trump never can. They are both literally self made and started out with nothing.

Trump started on third base and had an enormous fortune handed to him, and completely blew it all. And has nothing to show for it today.

Trump is they very definition of affirmative action over privileged, white privilege, white male privilege and getting by because he's white and male.

Trump will never be respected. He is a fucking fraud, and America gave him the keys to the white house because he's white. Only a white man could pull this shit and get away with it without suffering any consequences for his actions.

White privilege is real.

The New Yorker:

reminder that Trump’s personal loan officer at Deutsche Bank was SCOTUS Justice Kennedy’s son

R140 look up 5 times law enforcement could have arrested Trump but didn't.

I don't think I can link it, but that article basically tells the entire story on how Trump has gotten away with crimes and corruption for decades.

Rudy Giuliani also helped to shut investigations into Trump down too. And the IRS just looked the other way. Post it here if you can.

Will this help at the margins? About 10% are still supposedly undecided.

Surely a percentage will be pushed over the edge because of this.

R142 I wouldn't be surprised if Trump promised Kennedy's son a pardon if he would step down from the bench.

Regarding the Ivanka revelations: Bitch better have reported her "consultancy fees." I hope the Times has proof she didn't.

Do you read, r147? That's how they found it. She reported it.

How are all these cunts not in jail already? LOCK THEM UP!

It's not so much that this news will push Undecideds over the edge, it's the very good chance that Trump will be so unnerved by it that he will spend the debate rambling semi-incoherently, sort of the way he rambled about West Point during his Tulsa rally.

It has always been assumed that his empire was smoke and mirrors, but this reveals just how much--he would be flat out broke were it not for residuals from The Apprentice and the amount he makes from that show decreases yearly.

A lot of what he did (pay Ivanka as a consultant, write off haircuts) is aggressive but not necessarily illegal--during an audit the IRS may disallow it but it's worth the risk.

R148 she disclosed it on financial disclosures required by government officials, we don’t have her tax returns.

I think I'm done with his "Press conferences". I get that reporters risk WH clearance by aggressively asking questions but when the NYT story was brought up during the one yesterday, he went on about being audited and fake news and quickly changed the topic by going to a "friendly" reporter. NOBODY challenged his audited excuse that he's been pushing for 4 YEARS. He went on about Biden taking drugs, brought up Hunter and they just let it slide. Very frustrating, so I'm done with those bad boys.

[quote] and where the fuck was the IRS in all this?

Charles Rettig, the Trump-appointed IRS Commissioner who has refused to release President Trump’s tax returns, has made hundreds of thousands of dollars renting out Trump properties while in office, according to documents obtained by CREW. Last year Rettig said it was his decision whether to turn over Trump’s tax returns to Congress, under the supervision of Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin...

Rettig isn’t exactly advertising his Trump-based profits. In fact, there’s no mention of Trump at all in the disclosures. The two properties are referred to only as “Residential Real Estate – Honolulu, Hawaii” and “Residential Real Estate (2) – Honolulu, Hawaii.” This isn’t new. When he was first nominated, he failed to disclose the properties were in a Trump-branded building. At his confirmation hearing, he did not directly answer concerns about the properties, only saying he would serve in an “impartial, unbiased” manner.

reported on the Citizens for Ethics website , Sept 1, 2020

[quote]and where the fuck was the IRS in all this?

The IRS targets the poor, not the rich:

"The five counties with the highest audit rates are all predominantly African American, rural counties in the Deep South. The audit rate is also very high in South Texas’ largely Hispanic counties and in counties with Native American reservations, such as in South Dakota. Primarily poor, white counties, such as those in eastern Kentucky in Appalachia, also have elevated audit rates."

[quote]I don't think I can link it

There's nothing difficult about it, R143. Here ya go:

There is no end to the corruption. If the Biden administration decides to go after Trump after he leaves office (and why not? Bill Barr has gone after Obama), they'll need to prioritize.

5-4-3-2-1... The Republicans march out a slew of bimbos who say Biden molested them. Trump hinted back when Tara Reade oozed onto the scene that there was "more coming". The 'Biden is a pedo' line keeps reappearing- maybe one of them will be underaged.

I'm surprised our right wing trolls are not here, bumping all threads, posting something about black-on-white crime, anti-trans, or what have you... I'm worried, have they been sent to gulags for doing such a shitty job during the 2020 campaign? Has Breitbart talking point generation department closed?

Poor dears, R158.

I blame antifa and Black Lives Matter!

What's funny is that Trump's supporters see him as this Alpha Dawg.....yet he spends more on his hair than the vainest starlets

The counties with the most audits are usually poor places with lots of minorities.

Yet guys like Trump get a free pass

Trump in 2011 said lower-income Americans should have to pay taxes to 'be a part of the game' and said he paid 'a lot'

I hope he is shredded tomorrow on this, COVID, and God knows how many other things.

The day is long, who knows how much more shit will come out before tomorrow's debate. The way it's going at the moment with an avalanche of shit literally pouring out every couple of hours, he may stroke out before then. Didn't NYT say that that the tax documents release was just the beginning?

[quote]And he isn’t doing any debate prep!

How much prep will it take for this?

Will the debate stream live somewhere free?

An undocumented worker who worked for Trump paid more taxes than he did

Trump is now claiming that the tax documents were acquired illegally, but is not claiming that the information is false.

Fatass thinks it's great.

Deplorables have moved on to the "Taxes are evil so it's cool if he didn't pay them!" defense

Funny how this argument never applies to "welfare queens" or undocumented workers or any poor people. Just rich guys who are tax cheats.

Any word or rumors on how the NYT got them? It’s many years worth of returns. Who would even have them?

Did Mary Trump give them the tax info?

I don’t think she would have them from recent years, r173.

Does anyone know if any of the subpoenas for them were quietly followed? If so, they might have been leaked from those investigations.

Has to be Cohen

IRS (this is doubtful)

Trump Organization - past or present employee

Justice Department

Attorney's office - NYS?

Hmmm... maybe, r176. Didn’t he claim in an interview he didn’t see them or have them? Or, maybe they were in the thousands of documents seized by authorities from Cohen.

R172, based on the level of detail it sounds like the documents are from an accounting firm or a law firm.

It vas me. I just want to get over thees hole ting.

It's hilarious that the deplorables aren't understanding that the only "trick" he is using to not have to pay income taxes is losing massive amounts of money! He is getting credits to carryover to subsequent years because of massive business losses in prior years. Yeah, that's definitely a winning business strategy!

At some point in the debate, I definitely need to have Joe insert the aside, "You're the puppet!" while the orange idiot is blathering on and on.

r181, I guess you consider $70,000 for a haircut as part of "the only "trick"'?

I don't think they understand the weight of a 72M dollar audit. He could go to jail for a long time.

And they certainly don't understand the weight of 300M in loans from God-Knows-Where and the political and security jeopardy that puts him in...

And they seem blind to the 100s of millions in personally liable loans that would completely wipe him out.

Brokahontas

They come to me with tears in their eyes. Beautiful tears. Fat pigs. Ugly dogs. Big tears. Disgusting people. The most disgusting, okay? But they say nice things about me. They say nice things about Trump. What are you gonna do? They love me. Beautiful love.

Tears. They say, 'Mr. President, sir. Please, sir, let us live vicori.....vacario... Through you. Live through you, sir. We would be honoured to live through you, sir. Let us pay all the taxes, Mr. President, sir. Sir, we are so poor, sir. We're useless, ugly, disgusting trolls, Mr. President. We deserve to pay more. Sir, why should such a great man pay taxes, sir? Mr. President, sir, we want nothing more than to pay all the taxes and fantasise about living in a gold shithouse in the sky, sir. It's the least we can do for you, sir'.

How much does he own Putin?

Oh, that's so rich that Limpballs is defending Trump's taxes @R170. I'll bet Limpballs is another asshole who has never paid a dime in taxes. After all, he's another pampered, entitled, fat old white guy who has consistently fallen upwards his whole life.

R186.

Does he deduct his adderall. That would help justify all of this.

[quote]Trump's Been Dancing as Fast as He Can

Pics please.

Watching the video at R170, how is it possible that he's still speed-talking up a storm without a hint of shortness of breath?

I never thought I'd see, in real time, before my eyes, a true instance of Poetic Justice.

Trump didn't want to be, nor did he think he would be, elected the POTUS. But his marks, er, excuse me, his moronic voters didn't know a bluff when they saw one.

Now, Trump actually is exposed for the deadbeat loser he is, when, if he hadn't been elected, none of this would have come out.

In short, the marks exposed the Con Man. It's poetic justice indeed that he has his own voters to blame for this, but, he hates them anyway, so, there's that.

yup, agree Della. Sometimes the Gods are just, and funny.

Russia didn't put all that work into fixing the election and giving Trump money JUST for him to not really want to be President.

How naive you are.

Tax fraud and insurance fraud is being credibly raised from this release.

Could die in jail.

I highly doubt that filthy cunt has stage four of anything, except maybe ass-droop.

I slightly fear what the Times is working on to spring against Biden. Both sides etc.

they tried r197. The hunter shit is just shit. Everyone can try to both sides this nonsense, but it's horseshit and for once in this stupid ass miserable country, everyone gets that.

[quote]Russia didn't put all that work into fixing the election and giving Trump money JUST for him to not really want to be President. How naive you are.

R194, it's pretty evident that nobody in the Trump campaign thought he'd win. Melania wept when the race was called, and they weren't tears of joy.

It soon became clear to Trump the kind of obligations he had to Putin, and what kind of trouble he was in, which is why he went through that phase in 2017 where he would only eat fast food, and stuff from sealed packages; it was disclosed that he was afraid of being poisoned.

Who's infamous for poisonings? The Russians. Putin.

R192 It isn't yet poetic justice, because justice hasn't yet been served!

Della, when Trump is sitting in a jail cell, you can call it. I don't know how he can get out of this one. but he has successfully gotten out of everything else so far.

Love you, Della :):)

The latest attempted Biden smear was unveiled just last week: Suddenly, after multiple runs for the White House and 2 terms as VP, Jill Biden's ex-husband is claiming she started dating Joe while still married. He also claims he was coerced by people associated with Joe to agree to a divorce.

It's not quite being a tax cheat or paying off a porn star, but it'll have to do for now.

Smoooches, Doll at r200!

R201 Damn, that IS a hideous scandal. What can we do to deflect?

OMG! look over there, it's Kimberly Guilfoyle's breasts!!!!

Is/was Kimberly Gargoyle supposed to be handling Druggie Jr?

Laugh if you must, but I get paid big bucks to babysit Jr

Bang up job there, Guilfoyle.

Next time spring for some Visine.

I like you too Della. You seem to have a thing about me, but I like you. I think you generally have the right attitude towards things.

How many of the maids who worked at Trump's hotels paid more taxes than he did?

"Is/was Kimberly Gargoyle supposed to be handling Druggie Jr?"

She's his god damned procurer. She spreads her legs for drugs, then shares them with Junior.

Plus, if she get's busted, she takes the rap AND gets blamed for leading that nice young man DJT, Jr. astray.

Before you accuse me of saying there is no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, Democrats are way more concerned about the little guy than Republicans but I am beyond pissed that these sort of tax laws continue under both Democratic and Republican Party control. The Democrats sometimes clean up tax laws around the edges then when the Republicans get back control they even corrupt the tax code even more for the rich guys.

We have to find a way to get money out of politics probably only through a constitutional amendment but the problem with that is the rich always seem to find some new loophole and a constitutional amendment is so permanent and hard to change. I am not sure an amendment can be written so broadly to anticipate newly found loopholes, but we better find a way to fix this. Anything short of a constitutional amendment can be ruled unconstitutional by this conservative Supreme Court.

I am wondering how pissed Don Jr and Eric are to find out that daddy has been paying Ivanka under the table for consulting fees and they haven't.

My question about the payments to Ivanka: Have she and Jarod been claiming these payments as income?

If not, they're both going to prison.

At least Don Jr knows how to chase it away r211.

He's the suicidal type though. Or so we will soon be told.

"So sorry I fucked up your finances Dad"

The biggest threat to the US isn't Trump....it's that MONSTER, Seth Rogen!

Oops, sorry, I was so pissed that I forgot to post the link

Tucker Carlson is a boil on the ass of humanity.

Abraham Lincoln paid higher taxes 150 years ago!

I don't know if any of you tecall the article by Pro-publica that was published last fall. It went pretty in-depth into the HUGE discrepancies at Trump corporate regarding financial disclosures on Real Estate holdings. What was extremely evident is that Trump co. was reporting one set of valuations for property to the lenders on said property ( values inflated) viz a viz those claimed in tax documents to the IRS, which were * Surprise*- much lower. I honestly thought they had him dead-to-rights on ( at least) corporate tax fraud right there. I wonder if that's where the authorities picked up one end of Trump's financial thread, and kept on pulling till all this came out as well. Perhaps even his own accountants turned him in

Given Herr Trump's awful machinations throughout most of his marriages (open affairs, bitter financial fights, children out of wedlock, more cheating, etc) I don't see how JILL'S prior marital issues from 40 years ago can hold up here. It's not like Biden cheated on either of his wives or has had issues.

I wonder if the IRS was closing in on Dump and the. Backed off when he was elected president. It wouldn’t surprise me at all. His tax returns are under “audit” until he’s no longer president.

No wonder Jr’s been huffing pink spray paint lately

How did they get ivankas taxes?

How did the NYT her the records? When?

^get

I miss “No drama, Obama”.

R222.hey Karen Valentine. None of your fucking business.

[quote] [R222].hey Karen Valentine

GURL!

LOL

A pug, a cat, and a baby have paid more taxes than Donald Trump

The Biden campaign must link Trump's personal debt to his refusal to confront Putin on the bounty on soldiers.

R228, yup, that’s the bottom line. Dump is in hock, and that makes him very vulnerable to pressure. People don’t get security clearances for that very reason.

Anthony Scaramucci:

Deep, dark secrets weigh heavy on people. I hate it for the innocent family members caught up in this fiasco. But the whole house is about to come crashing down. The greatest scandal in the history of western civilization.

R228 There's a litany of bullshit that Biden could go to during this debate that it's almost dizzying, BUT this is crunch time. If Biden doesn't capitalize on this, I agree with Trump--he can't do this job. What do you folks think Dump's attacking points will be....

--OF COURSE, Hunter Biden--which could easily be squashed with an evaluation of the Trump kids. --Alleged drug enhancement of his performance --Kamala going off on him and then him choosing her as a running mate

I suspect that Trump has something up his untailored sleeves that he'll spring on us

"But the whole house is about to come crashing down."

If I had a god damned nickel every time some clown has said this since January of 2017, I'd be a billionaire.

R232 I agree. The needle ain't moving between tonight and11/3. It's just not.

The needle just needs to move enough so that he's not president anymore.

THEN the whole damn thing comes crashing down. Every court in the country will be after his broke ass.

The Daily has a great take on it today, interview with the reporters.

TL;DR:

* Trump has never made money from his businesses.

* Money from The Apprentice and the endorsement deals that stemmed from it (Trump Steaks) gave him a temporary lifeline

* That money is mostly all gone and Trump has personally guaranteed $420MM in debt because banks don't believe his businesses are worth refinancing.

* The "audit" Trump refers to is due to his receiving at $75MM refund from the IRS because he claimed he made no money in the mid-00s, money the IRS wants back, and they have been trying to get it back ever since

^^Also, The Apprentice is the only thing he's actually ever made money from. His hotels and golf courses are bleeding money and it would be safe to say that the pandemic hit them very hard as it has every other business in that industry, and that the damage to their reputation from his time in office will also hit them hard.

* Whoever holds the debt (banks, foreign and domestic) has a huge amount of leverage over him

* Amazon may not pay much in taxes ,but Jeff Bezos does.

"His hotels and golf courses are bleeding money."

Operated by anyone else, these facilities would probably break even or make a profit during these Covid times. But when you're constantly withdrawing millions and millions in "management fees" to keep the House of Trump and all the grifting kids, their spouses and ex-spouses and whores afloat, no entity could make enough money.

Junior and Kimberly Guilfoyle's weekly coke bill is probably higher than the GNP of Darfur.

[quote]Junior and Kimberly Guilfoyle's weekly coke bill is probably higher than the GNP of Darfur.

😭

Kids of rich parents often don't know how to manage money. They are usually into show and live beyond their means. They live for the moment. Attention is their oxygen.

I know. I have close relatives like him.

She reported the income of at least one on a “financial statement” r212. That was how the reporters were able to link Trump’s deductions for “business consultants” with her report of consultant income from a Trump entity. It was the same amount.

Anthony’s a little bit of a Mediterranean hysteric.

He & Steve Schmidt love the purple prose of doom

But did she report it to the IRS on Form 1040, R212. That's the million dollar question here. If she didn't, she (and Jarod) are both toast.

[quote] There's a litany of bullshit that Biden could go to during this debate that it's almost dizzying, BUT this is crunch time. If Biden doesn't capitalize on this, I agree with Trump--he can't do this job. What do you folks think Dump's attacking points will be....

[quote]--OF COURSE, Hunter Biden--which could easily be squashed with an evaluation of the Trump kids. --Alleged drug enhancement of his performance --Kamala going off on him and then him choosing her as a running mate

[quote]I suspect that Trump has something up his untailored sleeves that he'll spring on us

LOL, sure R231. Go fuck yourself.

He does everything for money, including running for President. Follow the money.

Golf courses are EXCELLENT for money laundering.

First you gut & renovate the building.

Then you hire your wife to be the “architect” & to “redecorate” the place. She overcharges for services after she orders supplies from Acme Design Corporation.

Then you hire heavy equipment to tear down trees in one area, chop them up into wood chips, then you have the same heavy equipment plant trees all around the golf course so nobody outside of it has a view of it. Then you put in sand traps & hills, using lots of very expensive heavy rental equipment

You hire illegal workers to maintain & groom the place inside & outside & pay them cash.

Hire your daughter to be a “consultant.”

Take tons of money off every year on your golf course for “maintenance & grooming” - hundreds of thousands, maybe millions - in pesticides, herbicides, mowing, trimming, animal removal (squirrels, raccoons, possums, alligators), floral displays indoors & outdoors. Hold fundraisers there & charge an exorbitant amount of money if you agree to show up, shake a few hands & pose for open-lipped, teeth gritting, thumbs-up photos.

The point R245 seems to be that Trump bought the wrong golf courses, assumed that putting his name on them would somehow make them successful and then proceeded to run them into the ground.

None of them have made money, they are all serious money pits and worse, there's no one particularly interested in taking them off of Trump's orange hands because they are bad investments, tainted by association or both.

Money laundering?

Part of me thinks Dump really, really doesn’t care, specifically because he’s thinking about spending as much as he can and golfing as much as he can, not caring what debts he leaves after he’s gone, or that his kids might even be destitute.

He’s been inside of a trap for 4 years.

Trump may think it’s cool being president, but he’s trapped like a gnat in amber. He can’t hire porn stars to service him at the WH. He’s always surrounded by secret service. He has to attend meetings where he is made to listen to other people besides himself. He can’t have sex with Ivanka. He can’t call his sons assholes either to their faces or behind their backs. He’s being recorded. His taxes are out there. He knows NY state is looking into tax fraud for the whole of the Trump Org going back decades.

Every week, another bombshell about his taxes will drop. His son Eric is being called to testify about the family “nature reserve.” Something is bugging Junior - he’s been sniffing and weeping despite his big words. He’s a walking poster boy for “You scared, bro? You look scared.”

Bitch Melania is PISSED - “Now everyone know i marry only millionaire, not beeg shot billionaire. And I going to be 50 year old soon. What kind of billionaire will want me now? I weel heff custody of giant boy Barron 24/7. Hees goink to be hard to handle now at these size. How weel I afford giant bodyguard?”

Have we discussed "Donald J Trump State Park" the land he so generously donated so he could get a tax write-off?

[quote]He’s been inside of a trap for 4 years.

Yes, but he knows the alternative is worse -- potential criminal liability, creditors pounding at his door, Melania taking his ass to the cleaners. He only thinks in the short term, so for now he's desperate for another four years.

CNN: Joe Biden on Tuesday released his 2019 tax returns, which show he and his wife, Jill, paid nearly $300,000 in federal income tax last year and had an adjusted gross income of about $985,000.

Last year, the Bidens released tax returns that showed they paid a total of $3.7 million in 2017 and $1.5 million in 2018.

President Donald Trump paid no federal income taxes whatsoever in 10 out of 15 years beginning in 2000.

Part 2 of the NY Times investigation came out last night and they're starting to reveal the Russia ties, including Bayrock. This isn't gonna end well for Trump.

Bayrock, Felix Sater. That’s the guy with the Trump business card whom Trump claimed not to know back in 2016.

Bayrock? Don't know him. Never met him.

I want Mark Burnett taken down. He’s the one responsible for resurrecting Trump. Someone needs to take that sonofabitch DOWN. If he so much as jaywalked I want him busted for it.

Trump instead is tweeting about election fraud at the polls. He's not touching the tax issue

He is in legit legal jeopardy with his taxes and insurance, and in financial jeopardy with his loans and business. Not just Insolvency, but tax and insurance fraud. He could go to jail for decades. He probably has been advised to stay completely silent about it. Not a good place to be 30 days before an election when he is going to be drilled about it from the media and The Dems.

If any of us filed our taxes like Trump files his, we'd be in prison.

I don't know. Isn't he stealing funds per usual and hiding them off shore? He and his family must have these types of accounts.

R260, maybe, but that isn't consistent with the Trump we know. No, Trump acts exactly like a man who has wasted two--now probably three--fortunes. (Plus, if you needed further confirmation, just look at the man Ivanka married. He also burned through about half a billion dollars by making stupid decisions).

Just because daddy's broke, doesn't mean I can't go shopping

..........

Watch him try to claim a write-off on his 2020 taxes for all free medical care he’s getting.

Tax cheat gets free medical care! This should be the news. A running total of what this type of care would cost the average American on top of the taxes they pay.

Yeah R256, a fucking Brit is responsible for America having Trump in the fucking white house.

Fucked up isn't it? The Brits gave been trying to derail America ever since the American Revolutionary War.

Fuck Them!!

I want to see the entire Trump organization completely dismantled and destroyed. It's nothing but a crime syndicate anyway. The whole Trump system needs to be irreparably damaged and dissolved. RICO the fuck out of the Trump family, and lock them all up.

Some might find fault with Hillary Clinton's political skills, R266.

I work in a tax office, and I have no clue how a tax return reveals one's net worth.

You don't have to report how much cash you have in the bank, or report any assets unless you are selling them. All you know is what the taxpayer is reporting, and what their bank is reporting for interest, or capital gains/losses. It is not a complete picture of net worth is all.

R269, the NYTimes's article explains that it did not rely sole on Trump's tax returns, but additional financial documents, which is why I think that the information came from either an accounting firm or a law firm.

I guess his corona diagnosis made everyone forget about his shady tax returns.

Nobody has forgotten. Certainly the |Manhattan DA's office hasn't.

I’m betting it came from Michael Cohen

I just read the article and the authors say a reimbursement to Cohen for the Stormy Daniels hu$h-up was not found in the records. So they think Trump claimed it under "legal fees"- since those don't need to be itemized. He wrote it off!

Felix speaks.

He engineered a sudden windfall in 2016

Trump got a $21 million tax break for preserving the forest outside his N.Y. mansion. Now the deal is under investigation.

I found it interesting that he has sold almost $300 million worth of stocks and bonds in the past 5 years. Does he know something we don't?

He lied about donating $20 million to St. Jude's. Because of course.

POSTUS

(Piece of Shit of The United States)

Donald Trump gave his beloved friend and mentor Roy Cohn a set of diamond cuff links.

Before Cohn’s death the I.R.S. took pretty much everything he had of value except for his cherished gift from his close friend.

After Cohn died it was found that the cuff links were fake. - Tom Joad

The details on that tax break at r277 are so sleazy. Has Trump ever made an honest deal in his life?

[quote]The Seven Springs appraisal, obtained by The Washington Post, appears to have relied on unsupported assertions and misleading conclusions that boosted the value of Trump’s charitable gift — and his tax break, according to two independent appraisers who reviewed the document at The Post’s request.

[quote]The appraisal was written by Cushman & Wakefield, a commercial real estate firm that has worked with Trump over many years and whose New York City headquarters are in a building co-owned by Trump.

[quote]The firm established the value of the 212-acre estate by assuming a future buyer could build and sell 24 mansions on the land, without providing evidence that such a subdivision would meet local regulations. Over two decades, Trump himself tried to build on Seven Springs — first a golf course and later various housing developments — but the projects were stymied amid local opposition and environmental disputes.

The article has more details. I hope that Cushman & Wakefield is indicted along with any other companies that abetted Trump's sleazy tax evasions.

Well this story died in record time.

NYT: Trump is poor and the deed to our country is probably now owned by Russian oligarchs.

Trump: Cough.

All Journalists: We wish you a full and speedy recovery, sir!!!

Trump: Watch my new movie Triumph of the Will!

All Journalists: This behavior is scary!

Trump: Hillary’s emails!

All Journalists: Why does he keep talking about Hillary’s emails? How odd.

NYT: TRUMP TALKS ABOUT HILLARY’S EMAILS!!

CNN: Let’s talk about Trump talking about Hillary’s emails. Why do you think he does it?

MSNBC: I’m Rachel Maddow, and this week I’m doing a deep dive into every time Trump ever mentioned Hillary’s emails.

NYT Reporter: Hey guys, we didn’t finish with the dirt on his taxes that everyone waited for years for...

NYT Editor: SHUSH! Anderson Cooper is talking about Trump talking about Hillary’s emails.

Preach R283. It is SO frustrating. We’ve been waiting for years for this story about his taxes. I am pissed with the journalists who act like dogs with a new squirrel sighting. Not impressed.

This IS an important story

He’s a chest and a terrible businessman

r281, and they were probably regifted.

R278 That the DJIA and the S&P 500 would rise by more than 40% and NASDAQ almost tripled over the last five years?

The stable genius would also seem to be a stock-market genius. Not.

BREAKING: According to @JewishNewsUSA @realDonaldTrump held a meeting this morning with senior campaign staff, legal advisors and his children to discuss his possible resignation. Resignation would be contingent on a pardon by Pence, and the dismissal of SDNY criminal charges.

JewishNewsUSA's Twitter got suspended. Likely for posting bullshit.

I suspect the super secret resignation meeting is a trolling effort to discourage people from voting. Because that is basically all the trolls have.

More shadiness:

[quote]held a meeting this morning with senior campaign staff, legal advisors and his children

ees problem because my Barrun scare Uday, Qusay, and Plastic Poosay.