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BREAKING: WOODWARD BOOK REVEALS MULTIPLE TRUMP SCANDALS

Holy Fucking Shit

And Woodward talked directly to Trump, on the record, no unnamed sources.

Biden can breathe easier tonight

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by Anonymousreply 601September 10, 2020 4:08 PM

CNN: The book, using Trump's own words, depicts a President who has betrayed the public trust and the most fundamental responsibilities of his office. In "Rage," Trump says the job of a president is "to keep our country safe." But in early February, Trump told Woodward he knew how deadly the virus was, and in March, admitted he kept that knowledge hidden from the public.

by Anonymousreply 1September 9, 2020 4:32 PM

Let's toggle between both your threads

by Anonymousreply 2September 9, 2020 4:33 PM

Also there’s some secret nuclear weapon system? Holy shit.

by Anonymousreply 3September 9, 2020 4:33 PM

"Rage" also includes brutal assessments of Trump's presidency from many of his former top national security officials, including former Defense Secretary James Mattis, former Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. Mattis is quoted as calling Trump "dangerous" and "unfit" to be commander in chief. Woodward writes that Coats "continued to harbor the secret belief, one that had grown rather than lessened, although unsupported by intelligence proof, that Putin had something on Trump." Woodward continues, writing that Coats felt, "How else to explain the president's behavior? Coats could see no other explanation."

by Anonymousreply 4September 9, 2020 4:33 PM

unlike the dead soldiers, Bob got the tapes!!!!

by Anonymousreply 5September 9, 2020 4:34 PM

The countdown to Fauci's dismissal begins ...

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the administration's top infectious disease expert, is quoted telling others Trump's leadership was "rudderless" and that his "attention span is like a minus number."

"His sole purpose is to get reelected," Fauci told an associate, according to Woodward.

by Anonymousreply 6September 9, 2020 4:34 PM

[Quote]Biden can breathe easier tonight

These things hardly ever cause any long lasting effects on the numbers. The deplorables will support Trump no matter what.

by Anonymousreply 7September 9, 2020 4:35 PM

Wow, there’s audio of him talking about how deadly COVID is, and how much worse it is than the flu. The White House must be on fire right now. Why on EARTH would they let him talk to Woodward multiple times over multiple months.

by Anonymousreply 8September 9, 2020 4:35 PM

Sorry R2-- DL was having one of its periodic breakdowns and it said this one was not posted.

by Anonymousreply 9September 9, 2020 4:36 PM

[bold] [italic] IT'S ON FUCKING TAPE.. RECORDING AT LINK--- TRUMP'S OWN VOICE

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by Anonymousreply 10September 9, 2020 4:36 PM

Trump's son-in-law and senior White House adviser Jared Kushner also weighs in with some unusual literary insights about his father-in-law. Kushner is quoted as saying that four texts are key to understanding Trump, including "Alice in Wonderland." Kushner paraphrased the Cheshire Cat: "If you don't know where you're going, any path will get you there."

by Anonymousreply 11September 9, 2020 4:36 PM

R7, this election is all about covid. Here is in on tape admitting to downplay it and that he knew how deadly it was and he actively took measures to ensure that we had the worst possible outcome. This will matter in the election. All those seniors who are drifting to Biden will now be firm in their support. This is a huge scandal.

by Anonymousreply 12September 9, 2020 4:37 PM

Also this:

[quote] “Not to mention my fucking generals are a bunch of pussies. They care more about their alliances than they do about trade deals,” Trump told White House trade adviser Peter Navarro at one point, according to Woodward.

by Anonymousreply 13September 9, 2020 4:38 PM

I read that R11 and thought that the comparison was far truer than Kushner realized

by Anonymousreply 14September 9, 2020 4:39 PM

[quote]All those seniors who are drifting to Biden will now be firm in their support. This is a huge scandal.

I pray you are right. But Tom Nichols reports:

It's already begun. Friend reports a convo with a Trumper today: "He was trying not to panic us."

by Anonymousreply 15September 9, 2020 4:39 PM

[quote] Woodward writes that Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) suggested former president George W. Bush speak personally with Trump about global vaccine efforts, but that Bush demurred.

[quote] “No. No,” Bush told Graham, according to Woodward. “He’d misconstrue anything I said.”

by Anonymousreply 16September 9, 2020 4:39 PM
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by Anonymousreply 17September 9, 2020 4:40 PM

And on the foreign affairs front

[quote] Trump was taken with Kim’s flattery, Woodward writes, telling the author pridefully that Kim had addressed him as “Excellency.” Trump remarked that he was awestruck meeting Kim for the first time in 2018 in Singapore, thinking to himself, “Holy shit,” and finding Kim to be “far beyond smart.” Trump also boasted to Woodward that Kim “tells me everything,” including a graphic account of Kim having his uncle killed.

by Anonymousreply 18September 9, 2020 4:41 PM

No wonder Kellyanne got the hell out!

by Anonymousreply 19September 9, 2020 4:41 PM

This was mentioned above with other quotes about Trump but posted here alone to highlight the brilliance of The Fauci:

[quote] His attention span is like a minus number.

by Anonymousreply 20September 9, 2020 4:42 PM

Every single person in this administration belongs behind bars for genocide. They all knew and not only did nothing, but made shit worse on purpose. They created a huge culture war/civil unrest and 200k people have already lost their lives.

by Anonymousreply 21September 9, 2020 4:43 PM

Woodward: The NSA and the CIA have evidence that Russia installed malware in voting machines in at least two Florida counties in 2016

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by Anonymousreply 22September 9, 2020 4:43 PM

The thing to remember about Trump too is that he can't let these things go. He is going to spend the next month going on long winded meandering rants about what he did and did not say or know.

Even the archconservatives at the WSJ editorial page ripped him a new one today for basically helping the Biden campaign by allowing the election to be about his despicable personality via his constant tweets and rants.

by Anonymousreply 23September 9, 2020 4:47 PM

OMG, this is so delicious, it's gotta be fattening!!

by Anonymousreply 24September 9, 2020 4:47 PM

Cheerful thought: Think of how terrified the White House staff must be right now because Trump is going to blame one or more of them for agreeing to let him sit down with Woodward, even though I am sure they all tried to talk him out of it.

by Anonymousreply 25September 9, 2020 4:48 PM

This helps the Democrats because it reinforces the messages sent by the Atlantic article and other reports. Certainly doesn't help Trump or hurt the Democrats, even though it just confirms what anyone paying attention already knows (and what his hardcore base doesn't care about). How does it strike that margin of voters he needs in swing states?

by Anonymousreply 26September 9, 2020 4:48 PM

By March 19, when Trump told Woodward he was purposely downplaying the dangers to avoid creating a panic, he also acknowledged the threat to young people. "Just today and yesterday, some startling facts came out. It's not just old, older. Young people too, plenty of young people," Trump said.

Publicly, however, Trump has continued to insist just the opposite, saying as recently as August 5 that children were "almost immune."

by Anonymousreply 27September 9, 2020 4:49 PM

Today's scheduled WH press briefing by Kayleigh Mc. seems to have been delayed for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 28September 9, 2020 4:50 PM

As others have said - his supporters DO NOT CARE. Is this scandalous? Yes. Should rational people be livid? Yes. Do his supporters care? Not one bit. This will not dissuade ANYONE from voting for him still.

by Anonymousreply 29September 9, 2020 4:51 PM

Even more:

[quote] The same day Trump told Bob Woodward that the coronavirus was far more deadly than the flu, he shipped our PPE and other vital medical supplies to China. #TrumpKnew

[links to tweet from Pompeo on that day saying we were shipping PPE to China. So not even a guess]

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by Anonymousreply 30September 9, 2020 4:51 PM

"You guys remembered I had a vacation scheduled, right?"

by Anonymousreply 31September 9, 2020 4:51 PM

The fact that he is on tape saying things that he contradicts speaking publicly at the same day is what makes big difference. It just connects all the dots. The story is consistent and he now must spend several news cycles denying the obvious, something he cant really afford based on the polls.

by Anonymousreply 32September 9, 2020 4:53 PM

R29, it won't dissuade deplorables but it might dissuade moderates and independents

by Anonymousreply 33September 9, 2020 4:53 PM

[quote] Why on EARTH would they let him talk to Woodward multiple times over multiple months.

Listening to the tape you can hear how he doesn’t listen. He just talks [italic]at[/italic] people.

by Anonymousreply 34September 9, 2020 4:53 PM

Trump has said publicly he didn't want to freak everyone out with the severity of the pandemic. He'll try to wiggle out of this claiming he was being the "calm voice in the storm" or some shit. This may be the book I want to get my hands on.

by Anonymousreply 35September 9, 2020 4:54 PM

Republican Amanda Carpenter:

Friends, Trump openly said people who were concerned about coronavirus were perpetuating a “hoax.” Live. On camera. What more do you need to know.

by Anonymousreply 36September 9, 2020 4:54 PM

R29, everyone already moved on from his supporters. This is about independents and undecided voters, the few that are left out there. In addition, it is also about the down ballot fights. This will hurt a lot of incumbent GOP senate and house candidates.

by Anonymousreply 37September 9, 2020 4:55 PM

Ok, so the .008% who were "on the fence" about him might care. His fucking trash deplorables won't. So, why is this so exciting? He's a piece of shit, but his worthless supporters don't care what he does. They forgive everything, time and time again.

by Anonymousreply 38September 9, 2020 4:56 PM

[quote] Friend reports a convo with a Trumper today: "He was trying not to panic us."

Dead people don't panic.

by Anonymousreply 39September 9, 2020 4:56 PM

SODOMITES: It does not matter if this does not change the mind of your Deplorable brother-in-law.

Deplorables alone--the hard core ones--will not win the election for him. Not the electoral vote, not the popular vote.

And this will peel off the less hard core MAGAts

by Anonymousreply 40September 9, 2020 4:56 PM

[quote]Trump has said publicly he didn't want to freak everyone out with the severity of the pandemic. He'll try to wiggle out of this claiming he was being the "calm voice in the storm" or some shit.

He has been/is holding rallies in which he ridicules mask wearing -- in essence, dooming a number of his followers to illness and death so as not to incite panic?

by Anonymousreply 41September 9, 2020 4:57 PM

Because not everyone who told a pollster they were voting for Trump is a hardcore MAGAt R38

And the undecided vote is closer to 10%

by Anonymousreply 42September 9, 2020 4:58 PM

Republican Jennifer Rubin:

It would be nice if an R or two called for him to resign for lies that killed tens of thousands of Americans who could have been saved by swift action.

by Anonymousreply 43September 9, 2020 4:58 PM

Trump can claim he didn't want to panic people, but he can't explain why he didn't ramp up PPE or mask wearing. He said to Woodward this virus is much more deadly than the regular flu, yet he did less than NOTHING.

by Anonymousreply 44September 9, 2020 4:58 PM

[quote]The White House must be on fire right now. Why on EARTH would they let him talk to Woodward multiple times over multiple months.

Trump and his cabal of criminals have gotten away with so much shit over the last three and a half years that they think they're invincible and nothing can touch them. In short, they've become as arrogant as they are corrupt and thank God for that or else we wouldn't have this interview.

by Anonymousreply 45September 9, 2020 4:59 PM

This book won't make a bit of difference.

As if Deplorables can read

by Anonymousreply 46September 9, 2020 4:59 PM

I'm telling you, the only thing that will harm this fucker is the "N word" Apprentice tapes. Please let them be out there.

by Anonymousreply 47September 9, 2020 4:59 PM

[quote]I'm telling you, the only thing that will harm this fucker is the "N word" Apprentice tapes.

And I'm telling you, that wouldn't change the mind of a single voter already intent on voting for Trump.

by Anonymousreply 48September 9, 2020 5:02 PM

I hope the sound can be used in ads.

by Anonymousreply 49September 9, 2020 5:02 PM

If anything R47, his base, the old folks in particular, (ElderMAGAts?) will be more pissed about this than about him using a word they themselves use all the time.

by Anonymousreply 50September 9, 2020 5:02 PM

Oh please. Fauci was telling us in February that, although the situation could change, the virus was nothing to worry about, ‘Risk is low, no need to change lifestyle yet." Today Show Feb 29th.

by Anonymousreply 51September 9, 2020 5:02 PM

We don't need them R48. He can't win with just his base.

by Anonymousreply 52September 9, 2020 5:02 PM

He’s such a moron for talking to Woodward, even after the first book. Probably believed he could charm Woodward.

by Anonymousreply 53September 9, 2020 5:03 PM

[quote] I'm telling you, the only thing that will harm this fucker is the "N word" Apprentice tapes. Please let them be out there.

All of his supporters know Trump uses the N word, and all the white ones use it also, that is why they like him, he is just as racist as they are and like Trump they deny being racist.

by Anonymousreply 54September 9, 2020 5:03 PM

The New Yorker's Isaac Chotiner:

Little understood dynamic:

I spent lots of time reporting in Pennsylvania diners in 2016, & I heard over & over again that if a pandemic struck, average voters wanted a president who’d lie to them about it publicly while *simultaneously* revealing the truth to elite DC journos.

by Anonymousreply 55September 9, 2020 5:05 PM

[quote]This helps the Democrats because it reinforces the messages sent by the Atlantic article and other reports

We can hope but the problem is his deplorables don't read or watch anything that isn't Fox or Breitbart or has the word "patriot" in it.

by Anonymousreply 56September 9, 2020 5:05 PM

Kayleigh McEnany just now: "This president has never lied to the American public."

by Anonymousreply 57September 9, 2020 5:05 PM

Kayleigh McEnany right now to the press, the President has never lied.

I am disappointed the press corp didn't laugh out loud.

by Anonymousreply 58September 9, 2020 5:06 PM

[quote] Oh please. Fauci was telling us in February that, although the situation could change, the virus was nothing to worry about, ‘Risk is low, no need to change lifestyle yet." Today Show Feb 29th.

So dump also had his flunkies like Fauci saying this. What is your point?

by Anonymousreply 59September 9, 2020 5:07 PM

She makes me miss Sarah the Beast Sanders

by Anonymousreply 60September 9, 2020 5:07 PM

[quote]Oh please. Fauci was telling us in February that, although the situation could change, the virus was nothing to worry about, ‘Risk is low, no need to change lifestyle yet." Today Show Feb 29th.

I see you got the WH talking points. McEnany is also throwing Fauci under the bus right now.

by Anonymousreply 61September 9, 2020 5:07 PM

Trump saying the N word may not disrupt his base, but it will sure make the Rethugs squirm and call him out finally.

by Anonymousreply 62September 9, 2020 5:08 PM

Well, Kayleigh has obviously mastered the world of “alternative facts.” Spicer and Kellyanne must be so proud.

by Anonymousreply 63September 9, 2020 5:08 PM

Well, Kayleigh has obviously mastered the world of “alternative facts.” Spicer and Kellyanne must be so proud.

by Anonymousreply 64September 9, 2020 5:08 PM

R47 as if his supporters would bat an eye if he said the N word. They'd be thrilled!

by Anonymousreply 65September 9, 2020 5:08 PM

Fauci isn’t President. He’s just another Repug lackey.

Just because he got a few things right, despite the Repug pressure, doesn’t make him a hero.

by Anonymousreply 66September 9, 2020 5:08 PM

Anybody who thinks Trump getting caught using the "N" word will cost him the election is seriously delusional.

by Anonymousreply 67September 9, 2020 5:09 PM

R59 LOL...oh OK. Fauci the flunkie and the WHO. Right.

by Anonymousreply 68September 9, 2020 5:09 PM

[quote]Trump saying the N word may not disrupt his base, but it will sure make the Rethugs squirm and call him out finally.

"That's just the way he speaks. He loves the coloreds!"

by Anonymousreply 69September 9, 2020 5:09 PM

Oh, they're challenging that bitch. Her pretty little face is taking on wrinkles already.

by Anonymousreply 70September 9, 2020 5:10 PM

The stupid right wing trolls are trying to make this dump vs Fauci when it’s really all Repugs vs real Americans.

by Anonymousreply 71September 9, 2020 5:10 PM

McEnany: "This president has done an unprecedented job dealing with Covid."

This I actually agree with.

by Anonymousreply 72September 9, 2020 5:11 PM

R61 I don't know or care about WH talking points. Fauci said what he said all through Feb. Americans were at low risk. And he advised against masks.

by Anonymousreply 73September 9, 2020 5:12 PM

Chotiner is joking at R55

(Just because DLers aren't always aware of these things)

by Anonymousreply 74September 9, 2020 5:12 PM

#TrumpKnew is going to be Biden's most effective campaign slogan

by Anonymousreply 75September 9, 2020 5:13 PM

McEnany: "The president never downplayed the virus."

by Anonymousreply 76September 9, 2020 5:13 PM

And that changes what dump said, how r73?

All Repugs (including you) are traitors

by Anonymousreply 77September 9, 2020 5:13 PM

[quote]It's already begun. Friend reports a convo with a Trumper today: "He was trying not to panic us."

For the twelve millionth time — this is not about the trump cult. No one ever said it was.

by Anonymousreply 78September 9, 2020 5:14 PM

An N-word tape reveal would make his base MORE likely to vote for him.

by Anonymousreply 79September 9, 2020 5:14 PM

The only defense the trolls have is “Fauci did it too!”

by Anonymousreply 80September 9, 2020 5:15 PM

It must be horrible job. One must be a special kind of person to do what this lady Mcenany must do daily.

by Anonymousreply 81September 9, 2020 5:15 PM

[quote]Fauci said what he said all through Feb. Americans were at low risk. And he advised against masks.

And then he reversed himself, stressing that all Americans were at risk and that masks were essential. Trump never did.

by Anonymousreply 82September 9, 2020 5:15 PM

We also have no idea whether Trump shared any of this with Fauci in February

by Anonymousreply 83September 9, 2020 5:17 PM

The Lincoln Project:

You can't vote twice, but you can impeach twice.

by Anonymousreply 84September 9, 2020 5:18 PM

[quote]It's already begun. Friend reports a convo with a Trumper today: "He was trying not to panic us."

Not when he flat out denied the threat and willfully spread disinformation that the virus is a hoax!, brainwashing the deplorables against reality and gaslighting the rest of us. Not if a 'panic" would in fact have helped people adopt life-saving safety precautions early on.

His lies didn't help people. They helped the virus. If the president can't do this simple math, he's not fit to be president. If he did the math as the tapes show and still told people it's a Democrat hoax, he's a clear and present danger to the people.

Tell that to every Trumpster and deplorable that will parrot the 'panic' excuse.

by Anonymousreply 85September 9, 2020 5:18 PM

Well, I have to say, I didn't think there was anything that could be said of Dump that actually shocked me at this point. I'm not shocked that he knowingly lied - we all knew that - I'm shocked that he's ON TAPE telling Woodward that's playing everyone for a bunch of fucking fools since anyone with two brain cells to rub together would know exactly what Woodward was going to do.

If this isn't the tipping point for the repigs to cut him loose, then I guess he really could shoot someone on 5th Avenue & they'd do nothing....

by Anonymousreply 86September 9, 2020 5:20 PM

Too bad for Trump, you can't downplay 200,000 dead Americans.

by Anonymousreply 87September 9, 2020 5:21 PM

[quote]Why on EARTH would they let him talk to Woodward multiple times over multiple months.

Trump called Woodward numerous times, late at night, from his residence.

The WH staff may have no idea what's on those tapes.

by Anonymousreply 88September 9, 2020 5:24 PM

The deplorables would secretly rejoice if they heard that Dump used the “N” word. It wouldn’t change the mind of a single one of them.

The effect would only be on the sliver of undecided voters who are still unsure if they want four more years of this insanity.

[quote] Trump has said publicly he didn't want to freak everyone out with the severity of the pandemic. He'll try to wiggle out of this claiming he was being the "calm voice in the storm" or some shit.

Yeah, too bad that he didn’t simultaneously calm fears while doing something about the deadly threat that he was hiding from the public. So, that excuse won’t fly.

by Anonymousreply 89September 9, 2020 5:24 PM

I'm sick of the idiots who say there's no difference beteeen Dems and Republicans or between Biden and Trump

Biden didn't downplay a deadly virus. None of the Dem candidates - even Tulsi - would have pulled this. Hillary Clinton wouldn't have.

by Anonymousreply 90September 9, 2020 5:26 PM

Trump on tape: Bob, I downplayed it.

McEnany: The president never downplayed the virus.

Deplorables: It was for our own good!

Herman Cain: Damn right! I could've panicked, put on a mask, socially distanced-- and lived. But I didn't panic, went to a Trump rally, and croaked! MAGA!

by Anonymousreply 91September 9, 2020 5:27 PM

Rep. Ted Lieu:

Having read more of the excerpts in the Woodward book where @realDonaldTrump is on tape, I’ve concluded this is not just dereliction of duty by @POTUS. Trump repeatedly lied to the American people and that resulted in preventable deaths.

This is reckless homicide.

by Anonymousreply 92September 9, 2020 5:28 PM

The last time I watched Bob Woodward being interviewed, he appeared about as coherent as Joe Biden on a bad day.

by Anonymousreply 93September 9, 2020 5:29 PM

I love how Kayleigh says "people have the right to peacefully assemble/protest" (or whatever the fuck she was spewing). The difference between Trump's rallies and peaceful protests? The Trump campaign provides bleachers and seats that aren't socially distanced and a no-mask requirement.

by Anonymousreply 94September 9, 2020 5:30 PM

FDR knew the attack on Pearl Harbor was imminent, but kept it from the American people.

by Anonymousreply 95September 9, 2020 5:31 PM

No proof of that, unlike this, Natalya at r95.

by Anonymousreply 96September 9, 2020 5:33 PM

The other difference, R94, is that Trump is the freaking president of the United States, whose job is to protect American citizens.

by Anonymousreply 97September 9, 2020 5:33 PM

R95 LOL

by Anonymousreply 98September 9, 2020 5:33 PM

R87, 200,000 families received their inheritances sooner than expected

Good for the economy.

by Anonymousreply 99September 9, 2020 5:34 PM

How do you explain this rapier-like book then, Troll at r93?

by Anonymousreply 100September 9, 2020 5:35 PM

[bold] #TrumpKnew [/bold]

That's going to sink him. I hope Biden's team are printing up bumper stickers and signs as we speak.

by Anonymousreply 101September 9, 2020 5:36 PM

R91, this whole situation is a Trump attack ad waiting to happen. Throwing Herman Cain in it would be icing on the cake.

by Anonymousreply 102September 9, 2020 5:37 PM

Biden is speaking shortly. Hope his press team has added remarks about the Woodward tapes.

by Anonymousreply 103September 9, 2020 5:37 PM

Hey, what the fuck! What about me! WHAT ABOUT MY BOOK!!! Damn you, Woodward!

by Anonymousreply 104September 9, 2020 5:38 PM

Lordy, there are tapes!

by Anonymousreply 105September 9, 2020 5:38 PM

R100, Woodward didn't write it, just put his name on it.

by Anonymousreply 106September 9, 2020 5:38 PM

One quick block and at least 3 idiotic posts disappear like magic!

by Anonymousreply 107September 9, 2020 5:38 PM

Recording linked at R10, R105

by Anonymousreply 108September 9, 2020 5:41 PM

[quote] The last time I watched Bob Woodward being interviewed, he appeared about as coherent as Joe Biden on a bad day.

Their moronic attacks on Fauci aren’t working, so now the Repug trolls are attacking Woodward.

If there weren’t so many dead Americans, this might actually be amusing.

by Anonymousreply 109September 9, 2020 5:43 PM

After the first book, why the fucl would Trump talk to Woodward? Jesus fucking Christ, that man is a complete idiot.

by Anonymousreply 110September 9, 2020 5:46 PM

CNN: Many close to Trump campaign are shocked by Trump's remarks; he kept info from his own campaign.

by Anonymousreply 111September 9, 2020 5:46 PM

What is in this book - or Cohen’s book - that wasn’t already known?

That Trump is a sociopath, a liar, a cheat, self centered, unempathetic, misogynist, racist, stupid, ignorant, unfit? That he believes he’s smarter than everyone else? That everybody knows what an asshole he is, but they’re all using him for their own ends? That he has no plan for anything except to enrich himself?

None of this is explosive or revelatory. None of it is new.

Why on earth do you all pee your pants with excitement every time some rich guy releases a book telling you what you already know? What’s been reported a thousand times? What’s been on display since before 1990? Donald Trump is a cheap, grasping asshole. Now give me a half a million dollar advance for my next book about what an asshole Trump is.

by Anonymousreply 112September 9, 2020 5:47 PM

[quote]Oh please. Fauci was telling us in February that, although the situation could change, the virus was nothing to worry about, ‘Risk is low, no need to change lifestyle yet." Today Show Feb 29th.

Actually I just rewatched what Fauci said.

He was assuming the CDC would ramp up testing so we could do better contact tracing nationally.

The fact is they didn't scale it the way he thought they would because Trump wanted to play it down.

Had we had more tests and had we traced the transmission better -- we wouldn't be where we are now.

Also he's not the President who clearly didn't respond to this the way he should have after consulting with multiple experts and intentionally downplaying it.

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by Anonymousreply 113September 9, 2020 5:47 PM

People just don't seem to understand how many people 200,000 is. I wish the media would put it in perspective. It's TWO of these filled to capacity...

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by Anonymousreply 114September 9, 2020 5:48 PM

Woodward is no hero. He’s been sitting on this since February. He should have released them immediately. Who knows the lives it could have saved.

by Anonymousreply 115September 9, 2020 5:48 PM

[BOLD] D E A R

E L D E R G A Y S :

P L E A S E

D O

N O T

R E S P O N D

T O

T R O L L S

[italic] It only encourages them

by Anonymousreply 116September 9, 2020 5:49 PM

R115, even he knows it's the timing of the release that will have the largest impact on getting the shit stain removed.

by Anonymousreply 117September 9, 2020 5:50 PM

And the trolls know they can’t defend dump, so they attack Woodward.

by Anonymousreply 118September 9, 2020 5:54 PM

Biden speaking now: "It's a life and death betrayal of the American people!"

by Anonymousreply 119September 9, 2020 5:55 PM

If you respond to trolls with facts, they go away

If you let them piss you off, and respond with anger, you feed them

There is a difference

by Anonymousreply 120September 9, 2020 5:55 PM

[quote]McEnany: "The president never downplayed the virus."

Jake Tapper in response:

A complete, utter, shameful, bald-faced lie about a matter literally of life and death.

by Anonymousreply 121September 9, 2020 5:55 PM

[quote] If you respond to trolls with facts, they go away

No silly Sodomite.

No they don't.

They don't care how you respond.

They only care that you DO respond.

Thus ignoring them makes them go away

by Anonymousreply 122September 9, 2020 5:58 PM

Looks like you’re the troll now, r122

by Anonymousreply 123September 9, 2020 5:58 PM

Translation of r122:

“Don’t counter my troll posts with facts”

by Anonymousreply 124September 9, 2020 5:59 PM

R116, your ageism shows you to be a cunting troll yourself. Of course this eldergay will respond to your idiocy.

by Anonymousreply 125September 9, 2020 6:03 PM

[quote]All of his supporters know Trump uses the N word, and all the white ones use it also, that is why they like him, he is just as racist as they are and like Trump they deny being racist.

Case in point:

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by Anonymousreply 126September 9, 2020 6:03 PM

Trump cannot touch Fauci. Fauci does not serve as a presidential appointee. All Trump can do is not invite him to the WH any more.

Big fucking deal.

by Anonymousreply 127September 9, 2020 6:04 PM

[quote]We don't need them [R48]. He can't win with just his base.

Trump knows this also, which is why he's counting on Putin to come through for him a second time.

by Anonymousreply 128September 9, 2020 6:05 PM

R10, incredible! Trump must be having a meltdown right now. Maybe another stroke?

by Anonymousreply 129September 9, 2020 6:10 PM

I read Bob Woodward’s first book about Trump. It contained a lot of damning revelations. No one cared.

Everyone is addicted to Donald Trump as an entertaining comic book villain. I think people love to hate him too much to want his presidency to end. I am so sick of hearing him and hearing about him. Every fucking tweet he puts out and every word he says is amplified a million times, and the worse he is, the more attention people give him. This is a monster created by a society that does not understand consequences.

by Anonymousreply 130September 9, 2020 6:10 PM

[quote]"It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu.” - “This is deadly stuff,” the president repeated for emphasis.

[quote]Trump admitted to Woodward on March 19 that he deliberately minimized the danger. “I wanted to always play it down,” the president said.

190,000 dead and counting.

by Anonymousreply 131September 9, 2020 6:10 PM

Biden just now on Twitter

[italic] Donald Trump knew.

He lied to us for months.

And while a deadly disease ripped through our nation, he failed to do his job — on purpose.

It was a life or death betrayal of the American people.

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by Anonymousreply 132September 9, 2020 6:11 PM

[quote] Everyone is addicted to Donald Trump

No they are not. People are fatigued with him. He manufactures more social media drama than a 14-year-old girl on TikTok. In fact, a 14-year-old girl has more emotional maturity than Trump does and probably would have handled coronavirus better.

by Anonymousreply 133September 9, 2020 6:13 PM

Feb. 7: Trump tells Woodward he knows of airborne risks and covid is worse than worst flus.

Feb 10-Mar 2, 2020: Trump holds five MAGA rallies each attracting thousands of people in confined spaces.

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by Anonymousreply 134September 9, 2020 6:15 PM

No matter how tired you may be of dump, he still holds the highest office in the US.

And he’s still murdering Americans with his policies.

by Anonymousreply 135September 9, 2020 6:15 PM

Trump is an accessory to murder.

by Anonymousreply 136September 9, 2020 6:16 PM

Mass murder.

by Anonymousreply 137September 9, 2020 6:16 PM

Trump admitted to Woodward on March 19 that he deliberately minimized the danger. “I wanted to always play it down,” the president said.

I remember someone else posting on a thread that Dump got off by lying to people about the danger of COVID & how they'd listen to him at their own peril (see also, Cain, Herman) or by getting them to do ridiculous things like drink disinfectant. These statements really proved that statement to be true: it wasn't just deception - he got a kick out of the fact that people where dying right & left & stood up and lied. He probably really loved NYers dying in droves....

by Anonymousreply 138September 9, 2020 6:16 PM

CNN's Ali Zaslav:

Several GOP senators react to Woodward book

@tedcruz: "haven't seen the book"

@SenRickScott: “I’ve not read it"

@SenJohnKennedy: “I haven’t read it.

@SenCapito & @senrobportman said haven't read it, despite being read parts

by Anonymousreply 139September 9, 2020 6:17 PM

Trump on Feb 7 to Bob Woodward : “And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu.”

Trump on March 13to the US people: “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!”

by Anonymousreply 140September 9, 2020 6:17 PM

Has Susan Cunt Collins released a statement yet?

by Anonymousreply 141September 9, 2020 6:18 PM

LOL. Perfection?

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by Anonymousreply 142September 9, 2020 6:19 PM

I didn’t say people like or admire him. I said people are addicted to him. I include myself among these people and I hate it. He is always on my mind and coming out of my mouth. Same with everyone I know. I work with a woman who FORBADE anyone around her to bring him up because she was so sick of hearing about him. She unfriended people on Facebook one day for posting about him. And that very same day, she absentmindedly posted about him, and she talks about him as constantly as anyone else. He really has become a national addiction like a drug or alcohol. Neither any or you nor I can go a day without thinking and talking about him. That never was the case with any prior president. It’s sick.

by Anonymousreply 143September 9, 2020 6:20 PM

[quote]People just don't seem to understand how many people 200,000 is. I wish the media would put it in perspective. It's TWO of these filled to capacity...

It's roughly one-third of the entire population of Vermont (623K). Can you imagine a state losing a third of its residents?

by Anonymousreply 144September 9, 2020 6:22 PM

There was a time when all these people would be HANGED for this.

by Anonymousreply 145September 9, 2020 6:23 PM

If Trump had any shame, he would commit seppuku.

by Anonymousreply 146September 9, 2020 6:25 PM

Imagine if this were Obama on tape - immediate impeachment by the Rethug congress.

Now that Trump is on tape - Rethugs don't know, haven't read the book but NANCY PELOSI WENT TO THE HAIR SALON!

by Anonymousreply 147September 9, 2020 6:26 PM

R139, of course. That's what they said about the tweet where Trump posted that the elderly man who was beaten by the cops was a super secret Antifa agent. "I didn't see it" - that's the only thing they can say, because there's no legitimate way to defend something so terrible

by Anonymousreply 148September 9, 2020 6:27 PM

200,000 people is approximately one out of every 1,635 Americans dead.

So, so far, our odds of dying are 1/1,635.

Odds of winning a six-number lottery: 1/13,983,816

by Anonymousreply 149September 9, 2020 6:28 PM

[quote]@senrobportman said haven't read it, despite being read parts

I just sent the pertinent facts to that gutless piece of shit. I'd encourage any and all of you with Republican Senators to do the same. Ask them to react ON THE RECORD.

by Anonymousreply 150September 9, 2020 6:31 PM

And we’re only about a third of the way through this pandemic

There will be many, many more dead bodies by November

by Anonymousreply 151September 9, 2020 6:33 PM

the audio is VERY damning

by Anonymousreply 152September 9, 2020 6:33 PM

I wonder if Fox and Hannity have any liability here. We know he speaks to hannity nightly and I'd find it hard to believe he didn't say the same to hannity and hannity chose to willingly spread lies and misinformation.

by Anonymousreply 153September 9, 2020 6:33 PM

The only way the Deplorables would care is if several recordings surfaced where he called deplorables dumb, etc.

Saying the N word will just make the deplorables tingly inside - they love that shit.

by Anonymousreply 154September 9, 2020 6:34 PM

R152, the Biden campaign just needs to replay that over and over again.

by Anonymousreply 155September 9, 2020 6:34 PM

r149, and it will be 200,000 by next week. possibly twice that by election

by Anonymousreply 156September 9, 2020 6:35 PM

Off topic, but I hope everyone will join me in ff'ing every poster who uses the phrase "silly sodomites" or "silly homosexuals," even if they're making a decent point. The condescension, not to mention the insult, is beyond annoying.

by Anonymousreply 157September 9, 2020 6:36 PM

Of course Trump knew. He has been briefed all along by serious people.

by Anonymousreply 158September 9, 2020 6:37 PM

Can we get some WILD PRAISE for Woodward. At least a serious person who delivers with this book. Unlike that piece of shit Cohen.

by Anonymousreply 159September 9, 2020 6:37 PM

"You just breathe the air and that's how it's passed."

Trump to Woodward, Feb. 7.

by Anonymousreply 160September 9, 2020 6:37 PM

But Nancy Pelosi's haircut!

by Anonymousreply 161September 9, 2020 6:38 PM

But...Obama wore a tan suit!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 162September 9, 2020 6:39 PM

Manu Raju:

[quote]There was no discussion at Senate GOP lunch about what Trump said to Woodward about downplaying the coronavirus or the other revelations in the book, per GOP sources.

The Republicans, continuing to fiddle while the actual Republic burns.

by Anonymousreply 163September 9, 2020 6:42 PM

Tapes you say? Eh, what could go wrong with a few tapes?

by Anonymousreply 164September 9, 2020 6:45 PM

Has Tucker announced a previously scheduled fishing trip?

by Anonymousreply 165September 9, 2020 6:48 PM

Maggie Haberman:

There is an epic amount of finger-pointing going on at the White House right now about who's to blame for a group of grown adults in serious positions in government - and in one case the president - talking to Woodward.

by Anonymousreply 166September 9, 2020 6:49 PM

Maggie Haberman:

There is an epic amount of finger-pointing going on at the White House right now about who's to blame for a group of grown adults in serious positions in government - and in one case the president - talking to Woodward.

This is awesome - the internal firing squad begins!

by Anonymousreply 167September 9, 2020 6:51 PM

I'm kinda concerned. Kinda sorta.

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by Anonymousreply 168September 9, 2020 6:52 PM

[quote]Trump cannot touch Fauci.

Sure he can. He'll get someone to get rid of him.

by Anonymousreply 169September 9, 2020 6:55 PM

r160, he knew and the CDC was sucking their thumbs about this for months.

by Anonymousreply 170September 9, 2020 6:55 PM

[quote]Trump saying the N word may not disrupt his base, but it will sure make the Rethugs squirm and call him out finally.

No they wouldn't. White America would just say, "Blacks use that word to describe themselves. What's the big deal?"

by Anonymousreply 171September 9, 2020 6:56 PM

[quote]Biden can breathe easier tonight

Cut to Trump still winning in November. lol

by Anonymousreply 172September 9, 2020 6:57 PM

I throw up my hands in despair! There is nothing that can be done about anything! Why even publish this information when we are all doomed?

by Anonymousreply 173September 9, 2020 6:57 PM

Maggie Haberman—sigh. The finger-pointing is beside the point. The question of leaks is secondary to the fact that the president knowingly let hundreds of thousands of Americans get sick and even die of a pandemic virus.

by Anonymousreply 174September 9, 2020 6:57 PM

This is good timing. Right after the "losers" and "suckers" military article in The Atlantic and before people get their mail-in ballots and early voting. An October Surprise in September. Kudos to Woodward.

by Anonymousreply 175September 9, 2020 6:57 PM

DJT: Woodward is a complete liar. I was never trying not to panic people. I was trying not to panic WALL STREET.

(Book preordered.)

by Anonymousreply 176September 9, 2020 6:58 PM

Networks are ignoring the part of the book where James Mattis tells Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats they may need to take "collective action" since Trump is so dangerous and unfit.

by Anonymousreply 177September 9, 2020 6:59 PM

R172 We're all going to laugh harder at Trump trolls losing their jobs. Back to whoring for them.

by Anonymousreply 178September 9, 2020 6:59 PM

R122 Knock off the Sodomite BS.

by Anonymousreply 179September 9, 2020 6:59 PM

Maggie Haberman is one of many cunts at the Times that normalized his behavior and never challenged him in any of the right or necessary ways.

by Anonymousreply 180September 9, 2020 7:02 PM

Big Macs Quarter pounders Fries (lot of ketchup) KFC Chocolate Cake Ice Cream Cookies 12 Diet Cokes

Trump's Menu for the day It's been a tough week

by Anonymousreply 181September 9, 2020 7:02 PM

For most thinking Americans, this new stuff is damning. Beyond outrageous. But we live in a country ruled by an autocrat who has managed to wrap himself in the flag, and in doing so, has made himself the apotheosis of patriotism. To be against Trump, say his followers, is to be un-American. They will dismiss Woodward's revelations as more "libtard" drivel, designed to take down their beloved president. I live in an area where I have to be careful what I say, where people put goddam elephants on their lawns and banners and flags that practically shout "four more years." God help us.

by Anonymousreply 182September 9, 2020 7:05 PM

If Woodward thought that Trump was being reckless with peoples lives, then why did he wait until September to publicize his book?

by Anonymousreply 183September 9, 2020 7:05 PM

Repugs can’t defend this, so they attack Woodward

by Anonymousreply 184September 9, 2020 7:07 PM

Still my president! Until death 🤡

by Anonymousreply 185September 9, 2020 7:07 PM

[quote]Biden can breathe easier tonight / Cut to Trump still winning in November. lol

Hardly anything to lol over, Boris.

by Anonymousreply 186September 9, 2020 7:08 PM

Possible excuses for Trump devotees after hearing Trump admit ON TAPE that he knew how deadly Covid was on February 7, 2020:

"But, but, but Fauci said it was no big deal too..."

"He was just trying to keep us calm..."

"Fake news...it's really Alec Baldwin's voice on the tape..."

"February 7th is the new May 7th doncha know..."

"Biden is senile..."

"Who cares? I'm rich..."

"Who cares? Jesus keeps me safe from Covid..."

"This MUST be the gays fault..."

"Ooh. Yeah. Sorry. My ears are in the shop..."

by Anonymousreply 187September 9, 2020 7:09 PM

The President made those comments months ago. I'm sure he has learned his lesson.

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by Anonymousreply 188September 9, 2020 7:09 PM

R181, don't forget the two scoops of vanilla ice cream!

by Anonymousreply 189September 9, 2020 7:10 PM

Fauci talking about Trump today on Fox News. "I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. In my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had."

Fauci is doing this to keep his role on the White House. We need him on the inside to raise the alarms when the DT tries to pump out a vaccine too early.

by Anonymousreply 190September 9, 2020 7:11 PM

We all know Trump supporters don't care about this, and I think most of us here are beyond giving a fuck what those idiots think about anything. We're happy this proof of Trump's malfeasance has been brought to light for independents and so the truth can be known. Trump supporters can all die of Covid or drown in a boat pareade for all I care. Fuck 'em.

by Anonymousreply 191September 9, 2020 7:13 PM

[quote]Networks are ignoring the part of the book where James Mattis tells Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats they may need to take "collective action" since Trump is so dangerous and unfit.

They'll get to it but by collective action Coats meant them resigning en masse, as the book says. Not like a putch or other radical action.

by Anonymousreply 192September 9, 2020 7:17 PM

[quote]Fuck 'em.

You first. Some of us have standards.

by Anonymousreply 193September 9, 2020 7:19 PM

[quote]Fauci talking about Trump today on Fox News. "I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. In my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had."

And the point isn't what he was talking to with Fauchi behind closed doors.

The point is what they were saying directly to the public. He's still saying kids almost never get the virus, and is ridiculing masks and social distancing, and snarling at reporters to remove their masks.

by Anonymousreply 194September 9, 2020 7:20 PM

[quote]The President made those comments months ago. I'm sure he has learned his lesson.

All that said, I don't think it was very nice of him.

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by Anonymousreply 195September 9, 2020 7:21 PM

The WaPo article says Trump referees to a super powerful nuclear ... weapon that he could use if he wanted to.

Asked about the existence of a top secret weapon, a source with knowledge of such weapons confirmed that the US has a top secret weapon and expresses astonishment that the president spoke on the record about it to an investigative journalist.

As if we need another reason to see Trump as a fire threat to American security. If Trump knows, we all know who else does. The military really should have kept knowledge of it from him. It would have been the responsible thing to do.

by Anonymousreply 196September 9, 2020 7:22 PM

^^ refers

by Anonymousreply 197September 9, 2020 7:23 PM

^^ and “dire”

by Anonymousreply 198September 9, 2020 7:23 PM

I don't know for a fact that this super powerful nuclear weapon is the same one he wanted to dropped into a hurricane. I just know it's true.

by Anonymousreply 199September 9, 2020 7:25 PM

Lol the troll at r93 and r95 apparently was told by its trollfarm supervisor to block me so I could no longer deride its Putin-support on DL.

I wonder what third world country the trollfarm it posts from is located in?

by Anonymousreply 200September 9, 2020 7:30 PM

[quote] Trump boasts to Woodward that Kim Jong-un addressed him as “Excellency.” He brags, falsely, that “I’m the only one he smiles with,” as if this would indicate something positive about Trump’s negotiating style if true. He says he was awestruck at meeting the diminutive, rotund North Korean hermit-dictator, saying he said to himself, “Holy shit,” when he first found himself in Kim’s presence, and assessed his counterpart as “far beyond smart.”

The fuck...

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by Anonymousreply 201September 9, 2020 7:32 PM

I'm so pissed at all of this.

by Anonymousreply 202September 9, 2020 7:33 PM

R95 is Tokyo Rose

by Anonymousreply 203September 9, 2020 7:35 PM

Holy fuck there really are tapes.

by Anonymousreply 204September 9, 2020 7:36 PM

R203, Moscow Mischa.

by Anonymousreply 205September 9, 2020 7:37 PM

Are independents/undecideds absorbing this? Aren't they angry? Or are they "both sides", etc.?

Jesus Christ.

by Anonymousreply 206September 9, 2020 7:38 PM

[quote] It's already begun. Friend reports a convo with a Trumper today: "He was trying not to panic us."

Yeah, because he cares SO much about them. These dumbass Trump cultists literally need a brick to fall on their heads to get it. He doesn't want you to panic because it makes HIM look bad, you stupid fucks! Dump's attitude is "if they die, they die."

by Anonymousreply 207September 9, 2020 7:38 PM

Can we talk about the claim at r22?!

[quote]Woodward: The NSA and the CIA have evidence that Russia installed malware in voting machines in at least two Florida counties in 2016

I hope he lives long enough to face charges of treason

by Anonymousreply 208September 9, 2020 7:39 PM

I don't care what his cult believes, how they rationalize it. I don't care. I care what undecided, independent, and moderate voters in the key states think about this. If they're paying attention in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 209September 9, 2020 7:39 PM

Lincoln Project? I want the audio in the ads!

by Anonymousreply 210September 9, 2020 7:40 PM

Oh I am sure Lincoln will have a FIELD DAY

by Anonymousreply 211September 9, 2020 7:42 PM

This is so FUCKED.

by Anonymousreply 212September 9, 2020 7:42 PM

Trump related to Woodward how Kim explained in detail how he murdered his uncle, and this is the guy Trump admires. Look out Mary!

by Anonymousreply 213September 9, 2020 7:43 PM

#HangHim

by Anonymousreply 214September 9, 2020 7:43 PM

Oh Lincoln was ON IT

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by Anonymousreply 215September 9, 2020 7:44 PM

What's the Times preparing for Biden, to destroy him last-minute? Because both sides.

What's the "but her emails" this October?

by Anonymousreply 216September 9, 2020 7:44 PM

I hear Biden wore a tan suit once!

by Anonymousreply 217September 9, 2020 7:45 PM

I'm so fucking angry. And there's fucking audio.

I'm buying more stuff.

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by Anonymousreply 218September 9, 2020 7:45 PM

How many people would have taken better precaution if he just said "Everyone, we're working on it, but know this: it's five times as deadly as the flu. Take precautions now. Wear a mask. We'll update you with new procedures as soon as we determine what to do, etc."

How many thousands could have been saved.

by Anonymousreply 219September 9, 2020 7:46 PM

[quote]What's the Times preparing for Biden, to destroy him last-minute? Because both sides.

Matt Yglesias:

What’s cool is that despite everything when Barr announces multiple politically motivated prosecutions (some stemming from Durham some from bogus Hunter Biden inquiries) in October, it’s going to get written up totally straight as if we have no relevant context.

by Anonymousreply 220September 9, 2020 7:46 PM

[quote] Trump, who cannot control his impulse to boast about his access to secret information, tried to impress Woodward by referring to a still-secret technology. “I have built a nuclear — a weapons system that nobody’s ever had in this country before,” Trump said. Woodward reports that other sources “confirmed the information, without providing further details, but expressed surprise that Trump disclosed it.”

WTF is this now?

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by Anonymousreply 221September 9, 2020 7:47 PM

[quote]Trump related to Woodward how Kim explained in detail how he murdered his uncle

Just some locker room chitchat between covfefes!

by Anonymousreply 222September 9, 2020 7:49 PM

Dear Lord in Heaven!

by Anonymousreply 223September 9, 2020 7:49 PM

R220, I really fear what the Times is going to do. They're going to make the GOP Senate's bullshit Hunter Biden "investigation" a thing next month.

The Times could pull another "but her emails" and get Trump elected (again) as in 2016.

by Anonymousreply 224September 9, 2020 7:50 PM

[quote]What’s cool is that despite everything when Barr announces multiple politically motivated prosecutions (some stemming from Durham some from bogus Hunter Biden inquiries) in October, it’s going to get written up totally straight as if we have no relevant context.

Operation 'Hunt(er) for Red October" incoming!

by Anonymousreply 225September 9, 2020 7:51 PM

ALL MEDIA SHIT STAINS are going to run 100% with any Biden smears. And voters fall for that shit because they are dumb cunts.

by Anonymousreply 226September 9, 2020 7:55 PM

Comey's letter was a shocking surprise.

But I don't think a Hunter Biden investigation or indictment would be a surprise. Barr and the Senate Rethugs have signaled a number of times they want to go there by hook or by crook. And because the impeachment was basically about these shenanigans, I think it's baked into the cake.

by Anonymousreply 227September 9, 2020 7:58 PM

[quote] I hope he lives long enough to face charges of treason

Or negligent homicide. Very provable.

by Anonymousreply 228September 9, 2020 7:58 PM

Impeach him for 200,000 counts of murder. Now THAT'S a high crime.

by Anonymousreply 229September 9, 2020 8:03 PM

Ah Nicolle's started. Perfect.

by Anonymousreply 230September 9, 2020 8:04 PM

LOL Trump put Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz on the list of potential Supreme Court justices

Now we know why Ted developed amnesia about Trump's libels against his father and his wife.

by Anonymousreply 231September 9, 2020 8:05 PM

R215, god damn that was quick

by Anonymousreply 232September 9, 2020 8:05 PM

Everyone needs to start calling for him to RESIGN. I'm looking at WashingtonPost, NYTIMES, etc.,

by Anonymousreply 233September 9, 2020 8:05 PM

I seem to remember his Oval Office address in March actually did set off panic.

by Anonymousreply 234September 9, 2020 8:07 PM

I hope Woodward releases more. 18 hours of tapes.

by Anonymousreply 235September 9, 2020 8:12 PM

[quote] Impeach him for 200,000 counts of murder. Now THAT'S a high crime.

And everybody who voted for him is an accomplice to those murders

by Anonymousreply 236September 9, 2020 8:12 PM

Yup, panic is his brand.

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by Anonymousreply 237September 9, 2020 8:14 PM

But white people were slaves too!

by Anonymousreply 238September 9, 2020 8:15 PM

[quote]“I’ve done a tremendous amount for the Black community,” Trump told Woodward. “And, honestly, I’m not feeling any love.”

OMG his grease fire can't come fast enough.

by Anonymousreply 239September 9, 2020 8:17 PM

Conservative radio is already excusing the downplaying as not wanting to panic the public

by Anonymousreply 240September 9, 2020 8:17 PM

We have a dictator-values government lying about COVID like China and Russia now.

We're panicking.

by Anonymousreply 241September 9, 2020 8:24 PM

[quote]Kim wrote that he wanted “another historic meeting between myself and Your Excellency reminiscent of a scene from a fantasy film.” And he said his meetings with Trump were a “precious memory” that underscored how the “deep and special friendship between us will work as a magical force.”

[quote]In another letter, Kim wrote to Trump, “I feel pleased to have formed good ties with such a powerful and preeminent statesman as Your Excellency.”

Kim Jong Un's grease fire can't come fast enough. Is he dead yet?

by Anonymousreply 242September 9, 2020 8:25 PM

Actually R240, they have an even dumber counterattack-- they are talking up Pelosi and DeBlasio telling people to go out to eat in Chinatown in February and somehow making it seem that this is the equivalent of what Trump did.

Which of course ignores that (a) Pelosi and certainly DiBlasio had not been given the same intel as Trump, and (b) Trump is the fucking president. Not the mayor of NYC.

To wit, from Little Charlie Kirk "Nancy Pelosi knew the dangers of the virus on February 24th but she still encouraged everyone to visit Chinatown without a mask and gather in large crowds. CNN couldn't care less then. The media's selective outrage over the Woodward book is hypocritical and embarrassing."

Did Pelosi really know? And does CNN ignoring that in February somehow make what Trump did okay?

by Anonymousreply 243September 9, 2020 8:25 PM

[bold] BUT WAIT FELLOW GODLESS SODOMITES, THERE'S MORE.....[/bold]

[italic] Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf told a former aide to stop providing intelligence assessments on Russia's interference in the U.S. and to begin reporting on Chinese and Iranian interference, a whistleblower complaint says

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by Anonymousreply 244September 9, 2020 8:27 PM

R244 - covering up for Russia's interference in the 2020 election.

Shut the fuck up about Sodomites?

by Anonymousreply 245September 9, 2020 8:32 PM

I loathe Kayleigh almost as much as Trump. Her smug cuntishness is just vile. I hope she goes down in flames.

by Anonymousreply 246September 9, 2020 8:33 PM

Kayleigh called gay marriage an abomination. I hate that twat

by Anonymousreply 247September 9, 2020 8:34 PM

Is there ever a breaking point for Evil?

by Anonymousreply 248September 9, 2020 8:35 PM

Chill R245

It's what the MAGAts call us when they're in their megachurches

Though if you live in Darkest Flyoverstan and are frequently called that, I can feel your pain.

by Anonymousreply 249September 9, 2020 8:35 PM

I want to hear more about the hacking of voting machines by Russia in key precincts in 2016.

by Anonymousreply 250September 9, 2020 8:38 PM

NYT had full story on my link at R244-- there were White Supremacists involved too. (This is starting to sound like a Steffon story...)

[quote] Top officials with the Department of Homeland Security directed agency analysts to downplay the threat of violent white supremacy and of Russian election interference, according to a whistle-blower complaint filed by a top intelligence official with the department.

[quote] Brian Murphy, the former head of the intelligence branch of the Homeland Security Department, said in a whistle-blower complaint filed on Tuesday that he was directed by Chad F. Wolf, the acting secretary of the department, to stop producing assessments on Russian interference. The department’s second highest ranked official, Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, also ordered him to modify intelligence assessments [bold][italic]to make the threat of white supremacy “appear less severe” and include information on violent “left-wing” groups, according to the complaint, which was released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee.

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by Anonymousreply 251September 9, 2020 8:38 PM

Me too r250

by Anonymousreply 252September 9, 2020 8:38 PM

R250, me three.

by Anonymousreply 253September 9, 2020 8:39 PM

R243 There were very few cases in the US at that time so there was no reason to think that visiting Chinatown was dangerous. Anyway, they were just going by what Trump said, weren’t they? Is he saying they should have known more than he did or they shouldn’t have believed him?

by Anonymousreply 254September 9, 2020 8:39 PM

Trump's stated concern for allaying the public's Covid fears somehow didn't apply to the protests he sought to fan.

by Anonymousreply 255September 9, 2020 8:39 PM

There is something about Keighleigh that makes her so much more detestable that Huckawhale, Spicer or even Conway R246

by Anonymousreply 256September 9, 2020 8:40 PM

Yes, let’s get back to that hacking of the voting machines, please.

by Anonymousreply 257September 9, 2020 8:40 PM

Good suggestion, r228.

I'll add it to our list:

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by Anonymousreply 258September 9, 2020 8:41 PM

I actually think he was overstating his knowledge with Woodward. He knew little, didn't care to know more, so his best defense is to say that he knew more but didn't want to panic people.

by Anonymousreply 259September 9, 2020 8:42 PM

Kayleigh makes Elizabeth Hasselback seem like someone I'd want to hang out with.

by Anonymousreply 260September 9, 2020 8:43 PM

[quote] Mr. Trump provided Mr. Woodward with the details of letters between himself and the North Korean dictator, Kim Jong-un, in which the two men are fawning toward one another. Mr. Kim wrote in one letter that their relationship was like a “fantasy film.”

[quote] Describing their chemistry to Mr. Woodward, Mr. Trump said, “You meet a woman. In one second, you know whether or not it’s going to happen. It doesn’t take you 10 minutes and it doesn’t take you six weeks. It’s like, whoa. OK. You know? It takes somewhat less than a second.”

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by Anonymousreply 261September 9, 2020 8:43 PM

On Fox News this afternoon, Harris Faulkner said Biden gets the same intelligence briefings as Trump so he should have warned people too. In February, Biden wasn’t even winning primaries, much less designated as the Democratic candidate.

by Anonymousreply 262September 9, 2020 8:43 PM

News is reporting that The WH didn't even know Trump was speaking with Woodward...Jesus...

by Anonymousreply 263September 9, 2020 8:52 PM

Turd Blossom at R142 video sounds like P-P-P-ork-k-k-y P-P-P-i-g.

by Anonymousreply 264September 9, 2020 8:52 PM

That does not surprise me at all R263 as even an idiot like Jared would have realized that (all together now) This Will End In Tears

by Anonymousreply 265September 9, 2020 8:53 PM

[quote]Harris Faulkner said Biden gets the same intelligence briefings as Trump so he should have warned people too.

Did she say that with a straight face?

by Anonymousreply 266September 9, 2020 8:54 PM

R266 She looked a little sheepish, but her guests did not correct her.

by Anonymousreply 267September 9, 2020 8:55 PM

Someone said on Nicole's show that he said that Barack (who he always liked to use his middle name Hussain) is not that smart and not a good speaker. Even if you don't like Obama, how can you say he is not a good speaker? I suppose if you had Trump's highly evolved oratory skills...

by Anonymousreply 268September 9, 2020 8:56 PM

Apologies in absentia R266

Not knowing who Harris Faulkner was, I saw you had used the pronoun "she" and thought to myself "I hate when DLers do that, use "she" for a man they don't like."

And then I Googled.

by Anonymousreply 269September 9, 2020 8:57 PM

I searched for Woodward and Woodward Book and this thread did not come up. Neither did any other threads posted today. Weird.

by Anonymousreply 270September 9, 2020 8:59 PM

Also on Fox News, Karl Rove said nobody’s perfect!

by Anonymousreply 271September 9, 2020 9:01 PM

Is The WH is uproar right now? Are people leaving, resigning, etc???

by Anonymousreply 272September 9, 2020 9:01 PM

Weird, that description of Kim Jong Un sounds like something from a bad romcom

by Anonymousreply 273September 9, 2020 9:02 PM

Look over there, a new distraction!

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by Anonymousreply 274September 9, 2020 9:02 PM

About a month ago I was wondering what Bob Woodward was up to. I didn't know he was writing this, but I just knew he would have plenty to say about Trump and I wondered why he was quiet.

Once again he has the goods. Hallelujah!!!

by Anonymousreply 275September 9, 2020 9:03 PM

-30,000/10, Boris @ r182.

by Anonymousreply 276September 9, 2020 9:05 PM

And yet we still have morons who think BLM or immigrants are the ones destroying this country. It's white conservative trash and their enablers on the "moderate" left who look at this ignorant, dangerous corrupt clown and thought it was fine to hand him the power to literally kill us.

Parasites. Every last one of you bigots and racists who allowed this cancer to be unleashed on all of us.

by Anonymousreply 277September 9, 2020 9:05 PM

Tom Cotton needs to fuck off

by Anonymousreply 278September 9, 2020 9:05 PM

Look, I didn't want people to panic, okay?!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to warn America about Antifa and scary black people moving into the suburbs!

by Anonymousreply 279September 9, 2020 9:08 PM

I won't link to the Völkischer Beobachter website, but here is Trump's lame defense as reported by the Official State Media Organ. What is fascinating is how the Beobachter writers have buried the real story at the end, while inciting the Trumpsvolk at the beginning.

[italic] [bold] Trump lashes out at Woodward book as a ‘political hit job’ as McEnany defends president over coronavirus comments [/bold]

Pressed on his reported coronavirus comments, the president said: 'You cannot show a sense of panic'

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President Trump on Wednesday ripped into Bob Woodward’s new book as “just another political hit job” after the author claimed Trump said he knew the coronavirus was “deadly” but went to great lengths to downplay the virus in public.

Pressed on his reported coronavirus comments during an afternoon event in the Diplomatic Room of the White House, the president defended himself: "You cannot show a sense of panic."

It follows an earlier defense of Trump from White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, who said Wednesday: “When you are facing insurmountable challenges, it is important to express confidence, it is important to express calm.”

“He makes clear that he doesn’t want to see chaos, by the way, which is the second part of the quote which you failed to read,” she continued, addressing a reporter who had read part of the quote.

“The president just days after having this discussion with Bob Woodward, said this from this podium, on March 30, he said, ‘I do want them to stay calm, we are doing a great job, if you look at the individual statements they are all true, stay calm, it will go away but it's important to stay calm,’” the press secretary said. “So this president does what leaders do -- good leaders -- it’s stay calm and resolute at a time when you face an insurmountable challenge.”

According to Woodward, as recounted in The Washington Post, the president received a warning from national security adviser Robert O’Brien on Jan. 28 that the coronavirus epidemic would be the “biggest national security threat” of his presidency.

“The president reportedly told Woodward in a Feb. 7 call, 'You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed. And so, that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu,’” The Post reported.

“This is deadly stuff,” the president added.

But on Feb. 26, Trump told Americans that coronavirus is "like a flu."

"This is a flu. This is like a flu," the president said in a briefing. "It's a little like a regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."

The quotes came from recordings from Woodward conversations with Trump available on the Post’s website. On why Trump sat down with Woodward, McEnany said Wednesday it was because he has been the “most transparent president in history.”

Trump on March 19 told Woodward, “I wanted to always play it down.” He had declared a national emergency over the virus days earlier, but also said, “I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”

On that day, 14,200 people had tested positive for the virus and 187 had died. Since then, around 6.35 million in the U.S. have tested positive for the virus and over 190,000 have died.

by Anonymousreply 280September 9, 2020 9:09 PM

[quote]Also on Fox News, Karl Rove said nobody’s perfect!

Lol Karl, we'll settle for normal and sane.

by Anonymousreply 281September 9, 2020 9:10 PM

I'm NOT still the worst, right?

by Anonymousreply 282September 9, 2020 9:10 PM

We must remember to refer to Trump's current spokesperson as The Pigeon-Headed Whore, and not by her silly birth name.

by Anonymousreply 283September 9, 2020 9:13 PM

You can always tell when Boris is out of ideas, triggered and humiliated.

That's when he resorts to homophobic slurs.

by Anonymousreply 284September 9, 2020 9:14 PM

#PenceKnew is trending on Twitter now too

by Anonymousreply 285September 9, 2020 9:14 PM

OP would you extra Russian Dressing on your nothing burger??

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by Anonymousreply 286September 9, 2020 9:15 PM

Absolutely a NOTHING BURGER, picture Nancy tearing up Trump's speech when he talked about the threat of the virus.

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by Anonymousreply 287September 9, 2020 9:16 PM

[quote] Conservative radio is already excusing the downplaying as not wanting to panic the public

But weren't they the ones telling us that coronavirus risk is vastly overblown, it's basically a slightly stronger flu, the mortality is low, everything should reopen even if it kills grandma and grandpa who, in their own words contribute nothing to the economy, hence are useless parasites and if they happen to die, it's not a big loss if any?

by Anonymousreply 288September 9, 2020 9:16 PM

R288 No that was Gov Como saying you have to die soemtime

by Anonymousreply 289September 9, 2020 9:18 PM

I would give me life and burn in the sulphur lakes of hell to see this man gone.

by Anonymousreply 290September 9, 2020 9:19 PM

R287, 200,000 dead and no end in sight is your nothing burger?

by Anonymousreply 291September 9, 2020 9:19 PM

Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA): These gotcha books don't really interest me that much.

CNN's Pamela Brown: He's on the record. He's on the record.

Kennedy: These gotcha books don't really interest me that much.

Brown: He did 18 interviews with Bob Woodward ... He's recorded.

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by Anonymousreply 292September 9, 2020 9:19 PM

[quote]No that was Gov Como saying you have to die soemtime

Shift change in Vladivostok!

by Anonymousreply 293September 9, 2020 9:20 PM

Conservative white people will be the ones who destroy this country - along with the enablers who wanted us to coddle these dirtbags. Fuck you, too. You Maggie Haberman-esque shits.

Mentally ill trash keep defending Trump. Sick fucks. Fucking die already.

by Anonymousreply 294September 9, 2020 9:22 PM

[quote] These gotcha books don't really interest me that much.

Then why did he go on TV to talk about one?

by Anonymousreply 295September 9, 2020 9:22 PM

We are in Irkutsk R293!

Vladisvostok is simply ghastly!

by Anonymousreply 296September 9, 2020 9:23 PM

Hopefully, this COVID scandal will have more legs than "the military sucks" scandal from last week, which seems to have already faded into the woodwork.

by Anonymousreply 297September 9, 2020 9:23 PM

What is "to own the libs" R295

by Anonymousreply 298September 9, 2020 9:23 PM

I'm no longer the worst president ever - yaaaaay!

by Anonymousreply 299September 9, 2020 9:28 PM

Betty Bowers is dead on:

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by Anonymousreply 300September 9, 2020 9:29 PM

Yep, this is making Andrew Jackson look like a saint!!

by Anonymousreply 301September 9, 2020 9:29 PM

C U N T

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by Anonymousreply 302September 9, 2020 9:36 PM

[quote]Hopefully, this COVID scandal will have more legs than "the military sucks" scandal from last week, which seems to have already faded into the woodwork.

If the "military sucks" scandal has faded, it's only because this new one has pushed it aside. All the rocks are being turned over now.

by Anonymousreply 303September 9, 2020 9:36 PM

This is another recycled attack, hoping people forget the media and democrats went nuts back in Feb-March over the President trying to calmly handle the crisis. This is NOT NEW. The democrats and their media supporters have nothing but recycled lies and hype to use.

by Anonymousreply 304September 9, 2020 9:37 PM

R304, there is blood on your hands.

by Anonymousreply 305September 9, 2020 9:39 PM

When did he calmly handle the crisis?

When he was pushing bogus cures?

When he called it a hoax?

When he said we'd be able to reopen on Easter?

by Anonymousreply 306September 9, 2020 9:39 PM

When he said the virus would just disappear?

by Anonymousreply 307September 9, 2020 9:40 PM

R304 = Smellyanne

by Anonymousreply 308September 9, 2020 9:42 PM

The Repugs just keep lying, and lying, and lying

by Anonymousreply 309September 9, 2020 9:43 PM

Analysis on Nicolle is good today. Fuck CNN.

by Anonymousreply 310September 9, 2020 9:44 PM

[quote]went nuts back in Feb-March over the President trying to calmly handle the crisis. This is NOT NEW. The democrats and their media supporters have nothing but recycled lies and hype to use.

FUCK OFF, cunty. it's completely new. you're just denying what is fact - he knew the danger, and he suppressed it

by Anonymousreply 311September 9, 2020 9:44 PM

Squeee!!! Our posting at R304 is working Maxim!!! So fierce!!! You go gurll!!! Oldergays is arguing with you!!

by Anonymousreply 312September 9, 2020 9:49 PM

Spilling some teas Ksander!!

What great idea Boris has to have us trolling other homosexually minded mens!!

by Anonymousreply 313September 9, 2020 9:51 PM

Oh, wait! I think Matt Gaetz may be visiting us. Or, is that you, Lady G?

by Anonymousreply 314September 9, 2020 9:51 PM

The Repug trolls are really desperate now

by Anonymousreply 315September 9, 2020 9:52 PM

totally, trump hates the dying soldiers, and he knew covid was a killer, and then spent three months denying it

by Anonymousreply 316September 9, 2020 9:53 PM

Kayleigh seems to have about 20 copies of the same sleeveless dress, but in different colors. That is all she wears.

by Anonymousreply 317September 9, 2020 9:54 PM

I F&F and just put a cockroach like R304 on ignore. Don't respond to it. Don't waste your energy on the trolls/

by Anonymousreply 318September 9, 2020 9:56 PM

Don't look at me, R308, I got out of this shitshow!

by Anonymousreply 319September 9, 2020 9:59 PM

They actually all start out white, R317.

Don't ask.

by Anonymousreply 320September 9, 2020 10:02 PM

Didn't she get her tits cut off to prevent cancer?

by Anonymousreply 321September 9, 2020 10:03 PM

[quote]No that was Gov Como saying you have to die soemtime

I had no idea Perry was ever governor. And isn't he dead?

by Anonymousreply 322September 9, 2020 10:04 PM

32 Times Trump said the virus would just go away

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by Anonymousreply 323September 9, 2020 10:04 PM

[quote]#HangHim

#ItWasGoodEnoughForMussolini

by Anonymousreply 324September 9, 2020 10:05 PM

R321 they jumped off her carcass of their own accord.

by Anonymousreply 325September 9, 2020 10:07 PM

I will read this whole delicious thread, but my first thought, when the story broke was, does Trump KNOW who Woodward is?

by Anonymousreply 326September 9, 2020 10:09 PM

[quote]Don't look at me, [R308], I got out of this shitshow!

If you say so, Sm- KellyAnne!

by Anonymousreply 327September 9, 2020 10:12 PM

Again, the goal is not to turn Trumpers, it’s not even to get more votes for Biden. But get Trump voters who took a chance in 2016 to nope out of 2020, and Trump will be toast. He won by the slimmest of margins in 2016, and has done nothing to move his poll numbers. If he looses the take a chance vote, he’s DONE.

by Anonymousreply 328September 9, 2020 10:14 PM

This is wonderful. Lindsey goes under the bus...

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by Anonymousreply 329September 9, 2020 10:14 PM

R299, Dick, darling, that train pulled out of Union Station a long time ago.

by Anonymousreply 330September 9, 2020 10:15 PM

R326, well, he was somebody no one liked, really broken-down and talentless and I gave him a chance, you know, because, chances and now he's bad-mouthing me! NOT GOOD!!!

by Anonymousreply 331September 9, 2020 10:16 PM

Lady G, you in danger, gurl!

(Thumbs twiddling, waiting for Graham kompromat to be revenge leaked.)

by Anonymousreply 332September 9, 2020 10:17 PM

Trump supporters will be on video/record for generations to come. They will be viewed as the "Nazis" and they will have shamed their grandchildren and beyond. This isn't about "Republicans" anymore and frankly, hasn't been from the moment he got nominated. It's basic human decency vs. having none.

by Anonymousreply 333September 9, 2020 10:18 PM

Another day another trump scandal.

by Anonymousreply 334September 9, 2020 10:22 PM

R333, that assumes we are able to vote out the nazis in November.

If we don’t, we are finished as a democracy.

by Anonymousreply 335September 9, 2020 10:26 PM

Ah told Mr. Trump that Mr. Woodward was a fine, upstanding gentleman (for a Yankee)

by Anonymousreply 336September 9, 2020 10:28 PM

Bob had this stuff on tape since last winter and he sat on them to sell his book? Why am I not surprised...

by Anonymousreply 337September 9, 2020 10:29 PM

[quote]@Acosta to @wolfblitzer: "A source is telling me at this hour that @LindseyGrahamSC, close confidant of the president, was urging him to do these interviews with @realBobWoodward. Lots of finger-pointing in #TrumpWorld over whether @realDonaldTrump should have done this."

Sad. Miss Lindsey gives a master class in boot licking and still gets thrown under the bus. ETTD.

by Anonymousreply 338September 9, 2020 10:31 PM

I had forgotten about the previous excuse/s.

[quote]Daniel Goldman @danielsgoldman

[quote]So much for the impeachment-distracted-me defense. We warned you. #TrumpKnew

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by Anonymousreply 339September 9, 2020 10:32 PM
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by Anonymousreply 340September 9, 2020 10:32 PM

This is wonderful. Lindsey goes under the bus...

I'm actually kind of surprised by this; Lady G is a loathsome character, but I didn't think he was a complete fool. Now, I could see that twat Jared encouraging something like this, but I thought Lady G knew that letting Dump talk to Woodward alone was like giving a two year old a loaded gun.

Also, think on this: this is just DAY ONE that Hurricane Woodward makes landfall. Who knows what revelations tomorrow will bring?

by Anonymousreply 341September 9, 2020 10:34 PM

[quote]Bob had this stuff on tape since last winter and he sat on them to sell his book? Why am I not surprised...

A rather well orchestrated strategic release of compromising, scandalous information.

And so many on here thought the Democrats were doing nothing. That was August.

This is September.

by Anonymousreply 342September 9, 2020 10:35 PM

I read Ms. Lindsey encouraged him to do the Woodward interviews. Maybe Lady G has ulterior motives...

by Anonymousreply 343September 9, 2020 10:35 PM

Another dead giveaway that Boris is defeated, out of ideas and triggered is when he starts accusing a Democrat of being the one who committed ____________ Republican malfeasance.

"No, Biden's slogan is Keep America Great!"

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by Anonymousreply 344September 9, 2020 10:38 PM

[quote] Bob had this stuff on tape since last winter and he sat on them to sell his book? Why am I not surprised...

Troll blames the messenger instead of hearing the message. Why am I not surprised...

by Anonymousreply 345September 9, 2020 10:39 PM

Let's not give Miss Lindsey too much credit. She's just stupid, dear.

by Anonymousreply 346September 9, 2020 10:39 PM

I think we'll be seeing a brand new revelation every week from now on. That's smart - it keeps Trump and his enablers on their toes, constantly being on defence, not being able to consolidate their response to any new accusations. Just think: a reveal on the day of a presidential debate, Trump in aggressive hysterics, constantly having to defend himself and losing it in front of TV cameras. Delicious! The people who knew about all this stuff could've shot their proverbial load early on and give Trump and his Russian handlers enough time to come up with something. This way, they are distracted having to be in the constant state of damage control.

by Anonymousreply 347September 9, 2020 10:40 PM

To be honest this so called scandal is another what did trump do this time that it is hard to keep up. To be honest a yawn.

by Anonymousreply 348September 9, 2020 10:42 PM

And yet you feel it necessary to come on here to downplay it.

I wonder why?

by Anonymousreply 349September 9, 2020 10:44 PM

What a rich and thrilling life you must have r348!

by Anonymousreply 350September 9, 2020 10:44 PM

Repug trolls as desperate to try to make this go away

by Anonymousreply 351September 9, 2020 10:45 PM

R348. Nope. I am just over the constant so called trump scandal every week. It is getting a little much and boring at this point. What will be the new sandal next week? I really don't care anymore.

by Anonymousreply 352September 9, 2020 10:47 PM

Thank you Melania.

by Anonymousreply 353September 9, 2020 10:48 PM

And hundreds of thousands of Americans dying is just boring, right asshole?

by Anonymousreply 354September 9, 2020 10:49 PM

New line of defense: I didn't deliberately lie, I'm just incompetent and dumb

[quote]WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump insisted Wednesday that he didn't expect the coronavirus outbreak would spread to the degree it ultimately did, even as a newly released interview showed he was privately worried about how deadly and contagious the virus was in early February.

[quote]“You didn’t really think it was going to be to the point where it was,” Trump told reporters during an unrelated press conference at the White House. “All of a sudden, the world was infected. The entire world was infected.”

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by Anonymousreply 355September 9, 2020 10:50 PM

How come everybody else on the planet knew Donny?

by Anonymousreply 356September 9, 2020 10:51 PM

So, either dump is completely evil, or he is completely incompetent.

Or both

by Anonymousreply 357September 9, 2020 10:53 PM

Legendary journalist Carl Bernstein reacts to Bob Woodward's conversation with Donald Trump.

"We are listening to the President of the United States, on tape, deliberately undermining the... national security of the United States... It is the smoking gun of his negligence."

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by Anonymousreply 358September 9, 2020 10:54 PM

None of the Republicans I know lend any credence to Woodward's book. All day long they've keep shrieking, "Even Fauci denied Woodward's quote about him!" The bottom line is that Trump could do, literally, anything--shoot an infant of live television, for example--and his base would manage to excuse it.

Why?

Because they simply DO. NOT. CARE.

by Anonymousreply 359September 9, 2020 10:54 PM

[quote]Troll blames the messenger instead of hearing the message. Why am I not surprised...

Calm the fuck down, Karen. Had Woodward spoken up about Trump's baldfaced lies back in the winter -- and provided his receipts--, maybe governors and other state legislators would have taken more strenuous actions. Maybe lives could have been saved. But Bob had book sales to think about, so 190k dead people later, here are.

Not everyone with a critique is a fucking troll, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 360September 9, 2020 10:55 PM

This sucks. I was really looking forward to the book and now the media will spend a week spoiling the best parts. I wish Woodward would just fucking release it now so I can buy it.

by Anonymousreply 361September 9, 2020 10:55 PM

[quote]So, either dump is completely evil, or he is completely incompetent.

I do not believe those to be mutually exclusive.

by Anonymousreply 362September 9, 2020 10:56 PM

[quote] Not everyone with a critique is a fucking troll, bitch.

Every post that downplays dumps evil is a troll post

by Anonymousreply 363September 9, 2020 10:56 PM

He's going out of his way to kill us. He's been doing this. You fuckers didn't give him a parade or ratings.

He's going to drop a bomb if he loses. He will take us all out. He doesn't care.

by Anonymousreply 364September 9, 2020 10:57 PM

Still don't care about you r360.

Yeah, yeah I know. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.

It's just that the stench of yours makes it hard to tell the difference.

by Anonymousreply 365September 9, 2020 10:58 PM

[quote]Every post that downplays dumps evil is a troll post

Says the dumb cunt who apparently can't read.

by Anonymousreply 366September 9, 2020 10:58 PM

R354. Did I state people dying is boring asshole. You see I don't constantly live in a state of rage like you. I intend to no longer care about every new scandal about what trump stated or did. It seems trump has gotten the best of you and you are addicted to hating him. I refuse to let him get the best of me and you should do the same.

by Anonymousreply 367September 9, 2020 10:58 PM

NOW a warning???

by Anonymousreply 368September 9, 2020 10:58 PM

I brought up the Woodward stuff to my coworker and he said "Trump got nominated for the Nobel Prize"

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

by Anonymousreply 369September 9, 2020 10:59 PM

[quote]Still don't care about you

We know, Karen. You only care about yourself and other trashy, under-educated whites just like you. Be less predictable.

by Anonymousreply 370September 9, 2020 11:00 PM

Don’t fucking tell me what to do

You are fiddling while America burns

There is blood on your hands

by Anonymousreply 371September 9, 2020 11:00 PM

Trump's new anthem:

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by Anonymousreply 372September 9, 2020 11:01 PM

Anyone who is not outraged by this is complicit

by Anonymousreply 373September 9, 2020 11:02 PM

[quote]None of the Republicans I know lend any credence to Woodward's book

I would ask: So if Woodward had written this exact book about Pres Obama, you would also say "Even Fauci denied Woodward's quote about him!", right??

by Anonymousreply 374September 9, 2020 11:04 PM

Do they lend any credence to dump’s voice saying he knew the virus was dangerous but wanted to downplay it?

by Anonymousreply 375September 9, 2020 11:06 PM

Well, Fauci didn’t deny the things Trump said ON TAPE, did he?

by Anonymousreply 376September 9, 2020 11:06 PM

[quote]I brought up the Woodward stuff to my coworker and he said "Trump got nominated for the Nobel Prize"

Inform them that he was nominated before, and LOST.

He's a proven LOSER.

by Anonymousreply 377September 9, 2020 11:06 PM

You know when the trolls only argument is naming calling, that even they know they’ve lost

by Anonymousreply 378September 9, 2020 11:07 PM

The only way Woodward’s allegations will have a true impact is if the Dem Super PACs run blistering ads about Trump lying as people died. They need to hammer it home or else it will quickly just be another “Trump is a bad man” news cycle lost in the wind.

by Anonymousreply 379September 9, 2020 11:08 PM

That's smart - it keeps Trump and his enablers on their toes, constantly being on defence, not being able to consolidate their response to any new accusations.

Not only that, but because Dump talked to Woodward on his own, they likely have no idea what he said (he probably has no idea what he said at this point), so until the book comes out, they don't know entirely what they're dealing with.

I agree with the comments that this non-stop Dump fuckery is exhausting, but Dump's annihilation not only destroys him, but all his enablers like Lady G, Susan Collins, etc.

by Anonymousreply 380September 9, 2020 11:09 PM

Gotta go watch Netflix while most of you go crazy over a new trump scandal that will get old by next week since there will be a new one.

by Anonymousreply 381September 9, 2020 11:09 PM

[quote]Be less predictable.

Be less present.

by Anonymousreply 382September 9, 2020 11:09 PM

[quote] They need to hammer it home or else it will quickly just be another “Trump is a bad man” news cycle lost in the wind.

Which is exactly why we have trolls like r360 here now

by Anonymousreply 383September 9, 2020 11:11 PM

A lot of people are only now finishing work and taking a closer look at the day's news. Trump's diehard supporters will grasp at whatever Fox is spinning as his exoneration, but most will take away the message that he knew how bad the pandemic was long before it got bad, and kept telling us otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 384September 9, 2020 11:11 PM

The world needs fewer Karens, R382. Be less present, delete your account, you won't be missed!

by Anonymousreply 385September 9, 2020 11:11 PM

Is Fox reporting this or are they still clutching their pearls over Nancy’s hair appt?

by Anonymousreply 386September 9, 2020 11:12 PM

Oh, the desperate spin on “Karens” is very telling.

Trying to downplay dump’s evil and racists’ evil in one post

by Anonymousreply 387September 9, 2020 11:13 PM

Here is my issue: If the fucking media like CNN allows that cunt press sec to be back as a "pundit" after all of this (as if it weren't despicable they did before), then the press are in fact the enemy of the people. Even now, people like Tapper and Blitzer make me vomit and I haven't watched CNN in almost 15 years specifically because they treated Trump and his flying monkeys like normal people rather than hostile enemies of the state - which they are.

by Anonymousreply 388September 9, 2020 11:13 PM

[quote]None of the Republicans I know lend any credence to Woodward's book

Which is like saying none of the crackheads you know believe drugs are addictive. They themselves have no credence, sweetheart.

by Anonymousreply 389September 9, 2020 11:15 PM

There are Trump supporters who will never admit to making a mistake. It's good to know they're outnumbered.

by Anonymousreply 390September 9, 2020 11:15 PM

[quote]Well, Fauci didn’t deny the things Trump said ON TAPE, did he?

He wasn't asked, Idiot. He was only asked about the quote Woodward attributed to Fauci and Fauci denied it AND claimed that he didn't feel as if Trump had downplayed or deliberately misled the public.

by Anonymousreply 391September 9, 2020 11:18 PM

are you people on repeat? both sides are trolls!

by Anonymousreply 392September 9, 2020 11:19 PM

More “bothsiderism” from the Repug trolls

by Anonymousreply 393September 9, 2020 11:21 PM

September 11 is coming up. The press should hammer down this simple math:

9/11 deaths: 2,977

Trump C-19 deaths: 195,157

by Anonymousreply 394September 9, 2020 11:21 PM

Okay, I went to Fox News to see what they were saying and - shocking - it's not even the top story. The headline of the story is" CAN'T SHOW SENSE OF PANIC: Trump addresses Woodward's book claim, insists he had to show calm"

In other breaking news: Oh, & Pence is bitching about John Roberts "he's a disappoint to conservatives! (boo fucking hoo!)

Bitter, embalmed old fuck Britt Hume signs multi year deal to stay at Fox (as if anyone else would want him..)

by Anonymousreply 395September 9, 2020 11:22 PM

Trump has personally given us a new 9/11 every three days

by Anonymousreply 396September 9, 2020 11:22 PM

Having this on tape is pretty damning. The DNC should edit the video of the women saying her father trusted Trump and it killed him into a campaign ad. Very effective.

by Anonymousreply 397September 9, 2020 11:23 PM

We know from Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal that Trump hates condoms. I wish one of the many models he bedded in his Studio 54 days would come forward and say "Screw the NDAs..... Trump made me get an abortion". You know that there had to be at least one of Donny's swimmers that got someone other than a wife pregnant.

That sort of story might get some of the Deplorables to rethink things.

by Anonymousreply 398September 9, 2020 11:24 PM

Scandal #11,604, coming right up.

by Anonymousreply 399September 9, 2020 11:25 PM

Ah yes, r360, let's blame Woodward and NOT Trump.

Fucking Bootlicker.

by Anonymousreply 400September 9, 2020 11:26 PM

Has any leader in the history of the World 🌎 ever called his military a bunch of losers and gotten re-elected?

by Anonymousreply 401September 9, 2020 11:29 PM

Woodward said Mattis regularly went to the Washington Cathedral to pray that Trump comes to his senses (or some such).

It didn't occur to him to just come out on TV and spill to the people every bean he knew when he knew it? Or get him on tape and go to the nearest newspaper?

Yeah, pray to Jesus. That'll fix things.

by Anonymousreply 402September 9, 2020 11:33 PM

So many trolls at NBC news. Sad.

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by Anonymousreply 403September 9, 2020 11:35 PM

In a brief interview with The Associated Press, Woodward said he needed time to ensure that Trump's remarks were accurate. "He tells me this, and I'm thinking, 'Wow, that's interesting, but is it true?'" Woodward said. "Trump says things that don't check out, right?"

It's not clear which part of Trump's remarks about the deadliness of the coronavirus, or his desire to play it down, necessitated six months of fact-checking.

by Anonymousreply 404September 9, 2020 11:36 PM

Who cares? Even if Woodward withheld this just to affect the election, then GOOD!

by Anonymousreply 405September 9, 2020 11:38 PM

What would be wrong with that? If your investigation determines that an elected official is a turd from the ass of a dead dog, wouldn’t you try to make that information clear to voters when it matters most?

by Anonymousreply 406September 9, 2020 11:42 PM

[quote]Who cares? Even if Woodward withheld this just to affect the election, then GOOD!

190k dead. Fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 407September 9, 2020 11:43 PM

[quote] So many trolls at NBC news. Sad.

Bitch, do you even read your own links? NBC wasn’t criticizing Woodward, they were pointing out that internet trolls (like you) were criticizing him.

by Anonymousreply 408September 9, 2020 11:44 PM

Please. Just THIS WEEK, tRump gave a reporter HELL for wearing a mask during a press conference when HE KNEW back in February that COVID-19 was airborne...which masks would help minimize. Hell, he has done this all summer. Blood on this idiot's hands.

And I love the 911 / Covid-19 comparison death numbers, R394...although incredibly sad that either happened in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 409September 9, 2020 11:44 PM

[quote] 190k dead. Fuck off.

And how many more will die if dump gets re-elected?

You fuck off, troll

by Anonymousreply 410September 9, 2020 11:45 PM

On one hand I'm upset with him for withholding this.

On the other hand I doubt it would have done anything to change anyone in power's minds about anything.

The Republicans, his admins, his followers -- will never turn on him. We saw that with the impeachment hearing. They'll cover for his lies. They'll support them. Some members of the public are even stupid enough to believe them. It's a sad state we're in. The Susan Collins and the Rand Pauls will always back him even if they pretend as if they themselves have a soul.

At least this might affect the undecideds.

It's like Woodward could have said something and really should have but the Democrats would be the only ones who cared. Trump would have just responded, lied and kept on doing what he was doing.

I wish we could charge him for every single death.

by Anonymousreply 411September 9, 2020 11:45 PM

Woodward is a journalist.

He is not the President

Please try to understand the difference

by Anonymousreply 412September 9, 2020 11:48 PM

Let's all remember how bad it was March - April in NY. Medical personnel in desperate need of equipment, people parked up in hallways due to lack of space, bodies piling up in refrigerated trucks, people of all ages dying before their time, dead people found alone in their homes, folks saying goodbye to dying loved ones via cell phones.

All this was in our faces for months while trump denied it, refused to wear a face mask, lied on TV during his ridiculous daily briefings, lied about how Covid would magically go away, he had it under control yada yada yada lie lie lie.

trump is a LIAR and CON MAN, always was, always will be. Not fit to hold office, deserves to be marched out of their and tried, found guilty, and tossed into prison.

Anyone who supports him is a stupid fool. End of story.

by Anonymousreply 413September 9, 2020 11:50 PM

Our current generation of journalists can’t hold a candle to the journalists of yore.

by Anonymousreply 414September 9, 2020 11:50 PM

Good thing Woodward is old school

by Anonymousreply 415September 9, 2020 11:52 PM

Trump needs to be tried for treason

by Anonymousreply 416September 9, 2020 11:55 PM

As do all his apologists

by Anonymousreply 417September 9, 2020 11:57 PM

I'm not concerned Woodward was holding on tho this. Experts were telling the truth as soon as they learned it. My area shut down mid-March, we knew what was going on.

To expect any caring and humanity from trump is fruitless, you can't rely on him for accurate info anyway. It's all lies. His fool base wouldn't have believed, they turn away from the truth so they can wallow in their hate, ignorance, or whatever it is they think trumps does for them. They are willfully ignorant, suckers, or cons themselves.

trump stood there and contradicted the experts during his briefings, he stacked the CDC, and all other agencies, with toadies, donors, and loyalists. We've known all along not to believe his lies.

I'm sorry for all those who lost their lives and their health but I doubt Woodward speaking up sooner would have made much difference. The repuke senate would not impeach him in January, the racket around him is strong.

Maybe now with all this coming out we can finally rid ourselves of him in January. Far too long from now, but we can't take four more years.

by Anonymousreply 418September 9, 2020 11:59 PM

Could someone provide a synopsis? I can’t handle 400 posts of Trump.

by Anonymousreply 419September 10, 2020 12:04 AM

There's blood on the hands of his minions, too. If McEnany is ever found mutilated in a ditch somewhere, I'm throwing a fucking party.

by Anonymousreply 420September 10, 2020 12:05 AM

r414, nonsense. I know the elderly posters here want to believe everything was better in their day, but there are tons of great younger journalists

And they wouldn't sit on info like this just to sell books like Woodward did

by Anonymousreply 421September 10, 2020 12:06 AM

[quote]The repuke senate would not impeach him in January, the racket around him is strong.

Trump WAS impeached. The Senate does not impeach, it convicts/removes.

by Anonymousreply 422September 10, 2020 12:19 AM

If puzzled as to what you all think would have happened had Woodward released this the minute he hung up with phone with Trump.

That Trump would have magically turned into a good person and made everyone wear masks and gotten money for PPE and hospitals to the states that needed them, blue and red?

by Anonymousreply 423September 10, 2020 12:22 AM

Fox report at R280 for whoever asked.

The GOP line of attack is that Pelosi urged everyone to go to Chinatown at some point and they are claiming she knew the same details as Trump, which seems unlikely.

by Anonymousreply 424September 10, 2020 12:23 AM

The only panic Trump wanted to avoid was a stock market crash.

Remember the senators who were confidentially briefed, and instead of rushing to inform the public rushed to sell stock holdings.

Bob Woodward is way down the line of people who should be blamed for not having the truth told to the people.

by Anonymousreply 425September 10, 2020 12:25 AM

This will not dent his base in the least bit. Right now, over 40% of this country will be voting for him. Fucking madness but there you have it.

If the latin and black vote don't turn out on the level they did for Obama then we're totally fucked.

So insane - I just can't believe we are living in such a warped, psychotic reality.

by Anonymousreply 426September 10, 2020 12:25 AM

Young and old, journalists obviously sit on a LOT of dirt. How much they sit on is hard to know. The fact of the matter is that no one else got Trump on tape with these kind of statements. I seriously doubt anyone younger could have. There's less risk involved for an old respected guy like Woodward. The younger generation worries about damaging their future career prospects.

by Anonymousreply 427September 10, 2020 12:26 AM

It wasn't on Woodward to reveal anything. If he had, they would have found some way to spin it as not Trump's fault the way they're trying to do now.

I realize that nothing sticks to this man, but if this Covid information isn't the final straw for independents, fence sitters, and swing staters then we are truly over as a nation and as human beings.

by Anonymousreply 428September 10, 2020 12:27 AM

Judge John Sirica was more responsible for blowing the lid off Watergate than Woodstein.

by Anonymousreply 429September 10, 2020 12:27 AM

[quote]Woodstein.

Bitch, they weren't some celeb couple

by Anonymousreply 430September 10, 2020 12:29 AM

Jim Acosta says it was Jared's idea, not Lady G's -

[quote] WH officials warned Trump that talking to Bob Woodward was a bad idea, we are told. But Trump went forward with the hours of interviews anyway. A source, who has direct knowledge of discussions, said Trump and Kushner thought Woodward interviews were a good idea.

This makes sense in that Jared and Trump think that the way they view the world is completely legit and normal and everyone else is an idiot for getting in their way. So they would not see the danger in talking to Woodward, whom they both likely regarded as a "status" journo who would burnish Trump's presidency

by Anonymousreply 431September 10, 2020 12:31 AM

If Woodward released it then it would have been lost in the mix of the insanity and nothing would have changed, from a cold journalistic POV it’s better now after he’s done all the damage.

by Anonymousreply 432September 10, 2020 12:32 AM

R427, if they worry about their "prospects" maybe it's because they're not rich like Woodward

by Anonymousreply 433September 10, 2020 12:32 AM

I don't really care, do u?

We all knew that Trump was lying to the American public, so why do we need Woodward to confirm it for us? We already know that Trump supporters don't care about the actual words that come out of his mouth, so what does it matter? Even if Woodward had revealed this in February, it wouldn't have changed the trajectory. At different points, Trump has tried to take on a responsible tone, then quickly reverted to the shit show.

The only Revelation in all of this that made me angry was that there is proof that Russia hacked into two counties in Florida.

by Anonymousreply 434September 10, 2020 12:32 AM

Well, yeah. I am not blaming them. The fact of the matter is that Woodward has access and stature that younger journalists don't.

by Anonymousreply 435September 10, 2020 12:33 AM

The 'panic' defense is a big turd.

Trump sicced his deplorables on Blue State governors and State Houses, and ranted against "radical Dem virus hoax" at his MAGA superspreader rallies.

He got FOX propaganda to attack everybody who said we should be fighting the virus.

by Anonymousreply 436September 10, 2020 12:35 AM

I'd love to see Kayleigh punched in the face with a big hairy fist. I'd watch the video of it all day giggling.

Don't bother shaming me, I'm completely fine with it. I've seen enough and I really don't give a fuck.

by Anonymousreply 437September 10, 2020 12:39 AM

It's a known fact that if Trump is reelected Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid will end, not just be cut, but end, forever. If that doesn't get seniors to vote for Biden and all the Democrats, Trump knowing about Covid won't even take one vote away from him. The only thing that would make a difference is if every average person lost every dime they have, their jobs if they still have one and their homes. In less than 60 days that's not going to happen. If Covid had killed thousands of children, it might have made a difference but it didn't . It will be a miracle if Trump, McConnell and the rest of the evil demons lose. Don't forget, in addition to the stupidity and evilness of so many Americans these days, the Republicans also have cheating on their side, not just a little, but massive cheating that they're not even trying to hide anymore and no one GAS.

by Anonymousreply 438September 10, 2020 12:40 AM

Well. I guess the Trump October Surprise came early.

by Anonymousreply 439September 10, 2020 12:40 AM

I think people care R434 because they are tired of being gaslighted. For 4 years we've been walking around in this fog like Ingrid Bergman while Charles Boyer gets away with one thing after another. Now, finally, here comes Joseph Cotten with proof, on tape, to try and help us.

by Anonymousreply 440September 10, 2020 12:41 AM

And yes, I realize that is the gayest thing I've written all day.

by Anonymousreply 441September 10, 2020 12:42 AM

R360, you know the "Karen" meme is not organic, and is likely a Russian op? To tear apart the people who are activists and actually care about people they don't know personally.

by Anonymousreply 442September 10, 2020 12:44 AM

Any word on the pee tape?

by Anonymousreply 443September 10, 2020 12:45 AM

[quote]I want to hear more about the hacking of voting machines by Russia in key precincts in 2016.

I recall HIllary's campaign being completely dumbfounded at losing Florida, as they'd banked millions of early votes. Trump would have to win something over 70% of the election day votes to overcome their lead, but according to the official results, he did. It all seemed highly improbable bordering on mathematically impossible, but the Hillary bashing began so quickly and earnestly, no one ever questioned the sketchy results!

If the two counties were Miami Dade County and Broward County, there were easily enough stolen votes in those two counties to steal the state. I sincerely doubt Trump actually won florida without Putin altering vote totals!

by Anonymousreply 444September 10, 2020 12:45 AM

[quote] The only panic Trump wanted to avoid was a stock market crash.

This.

by Anonymousreply 445September 10, 2020 12:46 AM

I hope the day comes that this entire administration and every complicit Republican in power is publicly executed.

by Anonymousreply 446September 10, 2020 12:47 AM

[quote] The countdown to Fauci's dismissal begins ...Dr. Anthony Fauci, the administration's top infectious disease expert, is quoted telling others Trump's leadership was "rudderless" and that his "attention span is like a minus number." "His sole purpose is to get reelected," Fauci told an associate, according to Woodward.

Now that piece of shit Fauci is singing a different tune. He's saying, he "doesn't recall" trump doing anything wrong regarding the virus

And he went on fox news to say it

Fauci, birx and trump should all be locked up

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by Anonymousreply 447September 10, 2020 12:48 AM

I completely understand now why the French guillotined their leaders

by Anonymousreply 448September 10, 2020 12:49 AM

The FL counties were St Lucie & Washington, not Broward or Dade.

by Anonymousreply 449September 10, 2020 12:50 AM

"He’s such a moron for talking to Woodward, even after the first book."

The Republicans are paying him a lot of money to write these books. Or he wouldn't have such intimate access. They're designed to portray Trump as kinda 'out there' but who cares about making America great again. Between shocking passages will be lots of, "The President was deeply concerned..." and "The President looked gravely out the window and whispered..." and "The President prayed all night for guidance".

by Anonymousreply 450September 10, 2020 12:55 AM

R449, St. Lucie and Washington are just the ones the CIA confirmed. The Russians likely hit others as well

by Anonymousreply 451September 10, 2020 12:59 AM

Holy shit! He actively let people die.

by Anonymousreply 452September 10, 2020 1:01 AM

I'm willing to bet at least 25% of people who lost a close friend or relative to COVID will still vote for the asshole.

by Anonymousreply 453September 10, 2020 1:01 AM

Why is Fauci giving Trump cover — and on Fox News!

by Anonymousreply 454September 10, 2020 1:02 AM

"I want to hear more about the hacking of voting machines by Russia in key precincts in 2016."

Hillary was polling 10 points ahead of Trump near election day in Pennsylvania, with like 95% of responders having already decided who they were going to vote for. Then election night and Trump wins the state.

The Comey thing was to create a fake reason that would explain why she was suddenly unpopular. When actually no one gave a shit because... they'd already decided who they were going to vote for.

by Anonymousreply 455September 10, 2020 1:03 AM

[quote] Trump also boasted to Woodward that Kim “tells me everything,” including a graphic account of Kim having his uncle killed.

That's it. Satire is officially redundant.

by Anonymousreply 456September 10, 2020 1:07 AM

[quote]Trump also boasted to Woodward that Kim “tells me everything,” including a graphic account of Kim having his uncle killed.

"Then we made some crank calls and had 5,000 pizzas delivered to that nasty Angela Merkel!" the president giggled.

by Anonymousreply 457September 10, 2020 1:13 AM

The avoid a panic rationale is of course complete horseshit. He felt that he’d look bad if there were a pandemic during his administration so he tried to shape the narrative, and 200k people died, in no small measure because of his openly insidious response.

by Anonymousreply 458September 10, 2020 1:15 AM

[quote]For 4 years we've been walking around in this fog like Ingrid Bergman while Charles Boyer gets away with one thing after another. Now, finally, here comes Joseph Cotten with proof, on tape, to try and help us.

Who knew that movie [italic]Gas Stove[/italic] could be just like real life?

by Anonymousreply 459September 10, 2020 1:16 AM

Oh that Fauci! Fauci speaking in March: "Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't Imagine Anybody Could Be Doing More"

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by Anonymousreply 460September 10, 2020 1:21 AM

YourMillennialCunt won’t believe the Russia hacking Florida report because it doesn’t fit his rabid Hillary Derangement Syndrome insane world view.

He’s as big a troll as any of the other obvious ones here.

by Anonymousreply 461September 10, 2020 1:36 AM

Donald Trump’s convention bounce disappeared faster than a coke booger out of the president’s nose!

by Anonymousreply 462September 10, 2020 1:59 AM

I bet the recordings were done just recently, to convince the world that Trump was well aware of the gravity of everything- instead of the clueless tard we know him to be. He just didn't want chaos!

Woodward is a paid operative.

by Anonymousreply 463September 10, 2020 2:02 AM

Right, r463...

by Anonymousreply 464September 10, 2020 2:08 AM

This is again, old news.

Here’s a clue: let’s get a new “Axis of Evil” going.

Coordinates: Anywhere Trump has a money laundering property set up, especially parts of Turkey, and the Middle East.

Other coordinates: any person who participated in the newly brokered “peace sea” between the UAE and Israel.

Other coordinates: Any oligarchs who happen to be Russian, and either paying trump off handsomely in “Biden” future opportunities, and/or, have real dirt on Trump, that they themselves set up MANY, MANY eons ago.

Blurred but vital coordinate: Israel, who have “leaders who are just as smart and Russian Oligarchs who were in USSR intelligence, and are not to be outdone, nor directly recognized and identified: Israel, the people who along with who knows who, including inside silent coups within the FBI led by Guilani and his 9/11 pals, put this entire operation together.

If you think I’m talking out of my ass, then you have not been paying attention, and you must believe all of the bullshit spewed on FOX, and on NBC’s morning Joe.

These fuckers ALL k or that the reL story, and BOTH do everything possible to inform us who is actually behind this, or why it’s happening.

And unless Woodward reviews this shit in his book, then he’s also responsible for what he’s allowing to go on here, while turning the other cheek and pointing fingers at the fucking Dummy, completely ignoring the ventriloquist disguised as the Elephant I’m the room, who always gets blamed for everything, just as planned.

Sorry, but I’m fucking sick of this bullshit and I wish one person could justify to me why this is being justified by the MSM, too.

by Anonymousreply 465September 10, 2020 2:12 AM

Bumperoo

by Anonymousreply 466September 10, 2020 2:14 AM

What else is there to say? He lied. People died.

by Anonymousreply 467September 10, 2020 2:24 AM

Apologies for my MANY typos.

Israel uses Russia, NZ, and Australia os proxies for advancing propaganda.

I know you won’t believe because you’re a Christian who lives “God’s Chosen People”, and that’s OK. Because I also know that you would never believe me if I told you that this is not the way they see us, as warm and fuzzy Christians.

That’s OK, though. Let them rule American from Jerusalem while you pledge allegiance to your American flags and fight for your freedumb, that the New Middle East “Peace Keepers”, have in store for you while simultaneously deploying vaccine developments via private funding to the USSR,, Australia, Israel, and other “emerging markets” to all falsely give the impression of multiple companies working against each other in a free market offering free competition, while actually fixing prices and controlling patents lack of measures that seal launches after a patent, and controlling a fat tracking race to a cure, which is actually a race to see which one of our bets hit first, so that we can split the pot.

It’s a shame no one wants to talk about this “story”, ain’t it???

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by Anonymousreply 468September 10, 2020 2:30 AM

Palestinians, terrorists or annexed live guinea pigs??? You decide!

Step right up, and get your CoVid vaccine, folks!

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by Anonymousreply 469September 10, 2020 2:54 AM

Has Dump gone on a Twitter meltdown yet?

by Anonymousreply 470September 10, 2020 2:56 AM

r470, Don't know, but he showed up on Hannity tonight.

No, I didn't watch it.

by Anonymousreply 471September 10, 2020 2:59 AM

How is Miss Lindz coping with being thrown under the bus?

by Anonymousreply 472September 10, 2020 3:10 AM

About these posts (because he loves DL), or about yapping his usual.bullshit distraction shit to Woodward?

Ask yourselves, how is it that this President can promise you an effective vaccine, ready for use and launch, by November 1st?

Maybe by testing it on people trapped by military forces? Or perhaps on Russians?

Who knows, right.

But things aren’t done like we do them here in the USA, when you don’t have pesky agencies like the FCC, regulating capitalism and scientific break throughs & progress, in places where you’re holding an entire country hostage, with no way out because you have destroyed their airports, and will not allow them to leave their, “occupied” territories, I’d reckon’.

But our stable genius has found a way to broker Middle East peace, and that’s why he had these two guys kiss and make up, in the middle of a pandemic!

And look, they’re honest because they won’t allow Putin to play, while he waves his troll farms at us, and yells. “Americans! Look over here! The Russians are coming to Facebook, no matter what Zuckerberg says!”

by Anonymousreply 473September 10, 2020 3:10 AM

Lou Dobbs just continues to ignore reality

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by Anonymousreply 474September 10, 2020 3:11 AM

r466=moron

by Anonymousreply 475September 10, 2020 3:14 AM

Dobbs is another one that needs to die the most painful death soon.

by Anonymousreply 476September 10, 2020 3:15 AM

Dobbs has been pro-fascist since his days on CNN.

by Anonymousreply 477September 10, 2020 3:18 AM

Woodward's not saying anything most people didn't already believe about him, he's only confirming it for us.

by Anonymousreply 478September 10, 2020 3:21 AM

And that's a good thing r478.

Besides, the point is not to try to persuade those of us who already knew Trump was a POS, it will hopefully make people still thinking of supporting Trump think twice about it.

by Anonymousreply 479September 10, 2020 3:25 AM

R479 Of course those who oppose Trump aren't surprised. The relentlessly depressing truth is those who support him simply don't care. Already lying Republicans are spinning defenses (these are not recognizable Republicans, in any historic sense - ironically "we're all RINOs now").

by Anonymousreply 480September 10, 2020 3:44 AM

I watched about 40 seconds of Hannity tonight and heard him spew a string of lying filth about "evil Democrat" before I turned him off in disgust.

My career was in advertising and we religiously stuck to the truth, however clever the writing. There are laws that prohibit lying in ads. You can't tell people that if they don't buy your product that their life and country will be forever ruined, or any other such made up nonsense.

That's what trump is doing, instilling fear and chaos to sell you four more years of his loathsome self.

There should be laws about what a politician can promise. Spouting lies should be against the law in political speeches and advertising just as lying in traditional marketing is illegal.

US citizens should file a class action suit against trump for his egregious lies and falsehoods that endangered the health of all of us.

by Anonymousreply 481September 10, 2020 4:10 AM

Apparently, it's a "hit job" when a writer accurately reports things you said on tape

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by Anonymousreply 482September 10, 2020 4:11 AM

We're talking about someone who survived "grab 'em by the pussy." Do you think honestly think the Woodward tapes will damage him that badly?

Despite polls, despite scandals, despite what you may think or feel, if we don't manage an exceptionally good turn out come election day Trump will win.

by Anonymousreply 483September 10, 2020 4:19 AM

[quote]Even now, people like Tapper and Blitzer make me vomit

Blitzer is very critical of Trump every day.

by Anonymousreply 484September 10, 2020 4:20 AM

r483, you realize he lost the popular vote, right?

And he won PA by like 40,000 votes

by Anonymousreply 485September 10, 2020 4:21 AM

R485, you’re no political guru. Maybe you can offer something that’s not completely fucking obvious.

by Anonymousreply 486September 10, 2020 4:33 AM

R483, I think the difference with the pussy tape is that it didn't really affect anyone's life -- it was just Trump saying filthy things about women.

But the Woodward tape may be more damaging because 200,000 Americans have died of coronavirus and millions more have been infected or have lost jobs/income because of it.

by Anonymousreply 487September 10, 2020 4:49 AM

R484, Jake Tapper is also critical of Trump. Trump was attacking Tapper this week claiming he was interfering with elections. He doesn’t make claims like that that if the person isn’t a threat to him. I think Tapper recently wrote a book. That’s why he’s being trashed.

by Anonymousreply 488September 10, 2020 4:55 AM

r486, well, apparently it's not obvious to the "He's going to win" crowd, so fuck off

by Anonymousreply 489September 10, 2020 4:56 AM

R484, and that's supposed to make up for the years that CNN spent giving a platform to spread Trump and his birther bullshit even before he ran for president along with other birthers and the fact that they've spent years giving a platform to known liars who spread right-wing bullshit including the current scumbag Kayleigh Mcunty?

You'll forgive me if I want to vomit thinking about those like Blitzer and Tapper who spent years buying matches for pyromaniacs now suddenly grabbing a bottle of water to put out all of the fires they helped to start.

by Anonymousreply 490September 10, 2020 4:56 AM

Trump's own Deplorables gasped in horror as he told them he was purposely shutting down COVID testing the hide the numbers this summer in Tulsa.

by Anonymousreply 491September 10, 2020 4:59 AM

[quote]The avoid a panic rationale is of course complete horseshit.

Of course, R458, not least because he doesn't have a problem panicking the public if it's some bullshit he wants to spread. He cultivates panic about the supposed socialism, open borders, and crime the Dems are supposedly going to bring. He's spread panic about BLM and "antifa," about migrant caravans, and about 'MS-13.' He 𝑙𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑠 panic, provided it's something he wants to panic the public about.

No, the reason he lied about the real dangers of Covid-19 is far darker than that, far more petty and vindictive, like the motivation behind the Repugs' maneuver to prevent any postponement of the Wisconsin Democratic primary vote. Their gamble was twofold: first, that many would be too afraid to go out and vote in person. Secondly, they wanted to expose those vulnerable Dems brave enough to go vote to Covid. It will probably emerge that that was Trump's motive as well, in hopes that it would carry off the likes of Biden, Chuck and Nancy, and many others. He would regard the many thousands of his own supporters carried off in that effort as 'money well-spent.'

by Anonymousreply 492September 10, 2020 5:24 AM

R430, you should know that Woodward & Bernstein have been widely & popularly known as "Woodstein" since the early days of their successful collaboration.

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by Anonymousreply 493September 10, 2020 5:29 AM

And beyond.

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by Anonymousreply 494September 10, 2020 5:30 AM

[quote]Apparently, it's a "hit job" when a writer accurately reports things you said on tape

There's a self-own tweet for everything.

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by Anonymousreply 495September 10, 2020 5:32 AM

How monumentally stupid can you be to blab to a star reporter that you 'developed a secret new nuke" that China and Russia don't know about.

First, newsflash, now everybody and their cat knows about it.

Second, do we really think you did't blab about it to Vlad and Xi when no adult was around?

by Anonymousreply 496September 10, 2020 5:42 AM

[quote]If the latin and black vote don't turn out on the level they did for Obama then we're totally fucked.

Here's a strange idea R426 ....

Why not look towards the 54% of white people that voted for him last time as part of the issue?

by Anonymousreply 497September 10, 2020 6:02 AM

Appealing to white people might be a lost cause, R497. In fact, just as republicans have tried to disenfranchise people of color, I propose that, once in power, democrats try to suppress the votes of white people, as it is this group, by giving us & sustaining this monstrous clown, that has shown that the franchise is not in good hands with them.

by Anonymousreply 498September 10, 2020 6:11 AM

Oh eat shit, R498.

by Anonymousreply 499September 10, 2020 6:24 AM

Has anyone asked Herman Cain's family who they're voting for?

by Anonymousreply 500September 10, 2020 6:34 AM

Kids, we're churning out the October surprise as we speak! Stay tuned!

The Hill: Senate panel to vote next week on authorizing subpoenas for Biden, Obama-era probes

[quote]Ron Johnson previously told The Hill that he wanted to release an interim report on the Biden-Ukraine investigation by mid-September. But he indicated this week that the timeline had slipped slightly, and that the interim report would now likely be released in late September.

[quote]"We've been doing quite a few interviews. I think the last interview on this aspect of the investigation I think is scheduled for Sept. 17," he said. "They're already writing the report."

by Anonymousreply 501September 10, 2020 6:38 AM

What new Woodward suprises lie in store?

by Anonymousreply 502September 10, 2020 6:49 AM

^ I truly hope he has more bombshells to drop. Let’s pray!

by Anonymousreply 503September 10, 2020 7:25 AM

This wouldn’t be the first president brought down by this guy.

by Anonymousreply 504September 10, 2020 7:28 AM

R504, Woodward brought down Nixon.

Trump yelled "Look what I can do!" and jumped off a bridge in front of him.

by Anonymousreply 505September 10, 2020 7:30 AM

There were a couple of states that never made sense in 2016, but the most obvious one was Florida. Was there ever a deep deep dive into the numbers?

My guess is the way they would do it is add more to red precincts in majority blue districts and because they wouldn’t be questioned. There is also the monkeying around with mail in ballots like the got busted for NC.

Who knows.

by Anonymousreply 506September 10, 2020 7:34 AM

Wisconsin is another fishy one. And look at their dirty republican leaders. Some of the worst in the country.

by Anonymousreply 507September 10, 2020 7:35 AM

How the fuck did the OP get whitelined?

by Anonymousreply 508September 10, 2020 7:43 AM

This article says it better but I can’t link the hill:

"You can have 10 counties that make up 1 percent of the vote that overwhelm a big county that makes up 8 percent of the vote, and that seems to be what happened in a lot of these swing states."

by Anonymousreply 509September 10, 2020 7:47 AM

“In Michigan, Clinton won 517,000 votes in Wayne County, home of Detroit. Four years ago, Obama won 595,000 votes there. Clinton also suffered serious drop-offs in Macomb County, a Detroit suburb, and in Genessee, home of Flint.“

“In total, Trump won Michigan by about 12,000 votes.“

“The results, strategists and observers said, illustrate a dramatic shift in political power toward rural areas, at least this year. “

by Anonymousreply 510September 10, 2020 7:48 AM

When you look back in 2016 in hindsight, it’s spooky. Going to pull up the missing Clinton votes in Florida if I can find the link.

Supposedly huge groups of ballots left the president space blank while voting for all the other local candidates.

by Anonymousreply 511September 10, 2020 7:49 AM

[quote]Woodward & Bernstein have been widely & popularly known as "Woodstein" since the early days of their successful collaboration.

As bellowed by Jason Robards in 'All The President's Men' when Woodstein had incurred his wrath, and they had to make the walk of shame to the editor's office.

[quote]How monumentally stupid can you be to blab to a star reporter that you 'developed a secret new nuke' that China and Russia don't know about.

Monumentally stupid of course, but also surely evidence of deepening widening mental illness, in its megalomania and disinhibition.

by Anonymousreply 512September 10, 2020 7:55 AM

[quote]How the fuck did the OP get whitelined?

Paid troll efforts, R508. If they can game their own posts to have up to 80 WWs, they can certainly white out an OP they dislike.

by Anonymousreply 513September 10, 2020 8:54 AM

Republicans have no shame. Even confirmation of Trump's evil actions will not make them admit they are / were wrong to stick with Trump.

Woodward's book with all the confirmation is to make the rest of the nation look with disgust at Trump, his administration, Fox News, and the conservative supporters. And then vote for Biden.

Honestly, if at least 70% of the votes are not in favor of Biden and the Democratic Party it's because of Putin and the GOP's dirty tricks.

by Anonymousreply 514September 10, 2020 9:41 AM

Hillary’s E-M-A-I-L-S

by Anonymousreply 515September 10, 2020 10:16 AM

WW OP, please! The trolls have FF OP!

by Anonymousreply 516September 10, 2020 11:03 AM

Check your settings R516, et al. OP is not whitelined to my asbestos eyeballs.

by Anonymousreply 517September 10, 2020 11:10 AM

On FUCKS NEWS, they’re trying to tie it to OBAMA!

by Anonymousreply 518September 10, 2020 11:13 AM

Thanks, R517. I didn't realize that setting affected that.

by Anonymousreply 519September 10, 2020 11:19 AM

r431 I relish when Trump attacks Jared. Tucker Carlson is pushing that Lindsey Graham encouraged Trump to speak to Woodward.

by Anonymousreply 520September 10, 2020 11:25 AM

I’m amazed that more people aren’t calling bullshit on tRump’s lame “didn’t want to panic the public” defense. What he shouLd have done is WARN the public about the threat. But, of course, that might have hurt the stock market, so he downplayed the danger.

by Anonymousreply 521September 10, 2020 11:25 AM

If Trump is responsible for the deaths of people in his base, maybe he really *does* deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.

by Anonymousreply 522September 10, 2020 11:28 AM

[quote]On FUCKS NEWS, they’re trying to tie it to OBAMA!

R518, how are they trying to blame it on Obama?

by Anonymousreply 523September 10, 2020 11:33 AM

He also said to stay calm, ➡️BUT⬅️ F-O-L-L-O-W T-H-E

S—C—I—E—N—C—E !!!

by Anonymousreply 524September 10, 2020 11:39 AM

Hate to break it to Tucker et al, but Trump will never turn on Jared. He expresses his forbidden love for his daughter by living vicariously through his idiot son-in-law, trusting his counsel and ignoring all others even if it spells his doom. Eros and thanatos.

by Anonymousreply 525September 10, 2020 11:43 AM

Nothing to defend. He deliberately lied, downplayed, and cost over a hundred thousand lives minimum. Will it make a difference to his base? Very little. They’re a cult. A death cult. If he would have done his job, he’d be in great shape for re-election. Yet, he shot 100,000 people on 5th Ave and his cult base is good with that.

Finally, we have proof Russia hacked votes. The election was stolen full stop.

by Anonymousreply 526September 10, 2020 11:48 AM

Fauci, inexplicably, is on Fox muddying the waters about what Dump did or didn't know; I wonder if Woodward's got something on him too.

Knowing Dump's propensity for bragging, I wonder what else Woodward has on tape (aside from what we've already heard) about how he's playing his followers for suckers about the severity of the virus. I have to think there is more...

by Anonymousreply 527September 10, 2020 12:02 PM

I really pisses me off that this "Trump downplayed the pandemic" meme is taking root. Dump didn't just downplay COVID, he mocked it, blocked Democratic governors from getting essential PPE, fucked up testing, and derided people for wearing masks. He and his ass-ministration and their enablers are STILL actively sowing confusion and disinformation while the virus spreads and people die.

Line all these fuckers against a wall and start shooting!

by Anonymousreply 528September 10, 2020 12:18 PM

Thank you R497

Stop hoping that black people are going to save you. If Trump wins again, you lay the blame where it really belongs. And then do what you always do, go back and sit down and break bread and make nice with these people (because they're family) who don't give two fucks about you or the country.

by Anonymousreply 529September 10, 2020 12:19 PM

R528, I agree. total treasonous behavior

by Anonymousreply 530September 10, 2020 12:23 PM

[quote]But the Woodward tape may be more damaging because 200,000 Americans have died of coronavirus

Or, as Republicans frame it, "[italic]only[/italic] 200,000 Americans have died ... most of whom only had a year or two left, anyway."

by Anonymousreply 531September 10, 2020 12:58 PM

[quote]Fauci, inexplicably, is on Fox muddying the waters about what Dump did or didn't know; I wonder if Woodward's got something on him too.

I think Fauci (and Birx) honestly believe that placating Trump is the trade-off for getting at least some reality-based info out to the public and states, and that without their involvement, our current state of disaster would have been worse by a matter of magnitude. But they should have read Rick Wilson's Everything Trump Touches Dies -- they're not going to come out unscathed from this. Fauci's also denying the quotes Woodward attributes to him ("I don't remember that"), which is a problem if Woodward has tapes on him, too.

by Anonymousreply 532September 10, 2020 1:07 PM

I think so too, fauci has played the long game his entire life. it's not going to stab someone in the back, no matter who, at this point

by Anonymousreply 533September 10, 2020 1:16 PM

Not saying I don't believe it, because it's all too easy to believe anything bad our orange idiot-in-chief might say or do. That said, it would be nice if these things came out from sources other than people trying to sell books.

by Anonymousreply 534September 10, 2020 1:19 PM

Did you hear the tapes, r534?

This isn’t hearsay.

by Anonymousreply 535September 10, 2020 1:21 PM

[quote]Her pretty little face is taking on wrinkles already.

The pigeon-headed whore has been looking terrible lately. Earlier this summer she looked relatively fresh but lately she's been going the desiccated corpse route, hair crunchy like straw and face dry as sandpaper, eyes starting to sink into her head. It's fantastic.

by Anonymousreply 536September 10, 2020 1:25 PM

[quote]Woodward: The NSA and the CIA have evidence that Russia installed malware in voting machines in at least two Florida counties in 2016

So many of us have been saying this was plausible for years, and everyone, especially the media, shrugged the idea off as laughable.

I'm telling you guys, they changed some votes. They messed with voter registrations and they screwed with some machines.

by Anonymousreply 537September 10, 2020 1:27 PM

200K people died so that Trump could get into a dick-measuring standoff with Cuomo.

by Anonymousreply 538September 10, 2020 1:28 PM

[quote]it would be nice if these things came out from sources other than people trying to sell books

It comes from Trump himself, you dingus. Trump said these things and they're on tape. My goodness, read a news article once in a while, dang.

by Anonymousreply 539September 10, 2020 1:28 PM

Another tempest in a teapot.

Let's see, in the last few weeks we've had the soldiers for bounty scandal, the "military are idiots" scandal, and now Covid scandal. Hell, even Ari Melber only devoted 10 minutes to this last night.

Trump's approval ratings and the polls remain basically unchanged. Doesn't seem as if these revelations have much impact, so why do the Democrats keep placing so much hope in them?

by Anonymousreply 540September 10, 2020 1:29 PM

R388, while Fox might be immoral, CNN is still amoral. Watch MSNBC. CNN is run by a sociopath, aims for "fireworks" (i.e., screaming conflict on air), and uses exclamation points on its YouTube clips' titles. That should tell you enough about what CNN is.

by Anonymousreply 541September 10, 2020 1:37 PM

R540, it's about winning at the margins. You might think it's "just another thing," but there may be voters at the margins for whom this is the last straw: maybe the previous scandals weren't for these particular voters, but this could be it for them.

You're clearly not at the margin. This isn't about you.

by Anonymousreply 542September 10, 2020 1:38 PM

[quote]This isn't about you.

Shhhh! You can't say that about r540!

by Anonymousreply 543September 10, 2020 1:40 PM

R354, you need to stop watching Fox. There are tapes. The other networks have been playing audio from the tapes, wherein Trump says everything himself.

by Anonymousreply 544September 10, 2020 1:40 PM

Fauci and Birx are done. Birx is delighting in her White House office, swinging her arms about in the hallway, thrilled at her own fame. It's been covered in the times. Fauci covers for Trump all the time, thinking he's saving lives that way. Both are discredited, spineless quislings.

by Anonymousreply 545September 10, 2020 1:42 PM

R542/R543: Donald Trump has been president for over 3 1/2 years. People made up their minds about Trump a long time ago, pro or con.

That the two of you clowns seem to think there are millions and millions of "undecideds" waiting to be persuaded to vote for Biden shows what idiots and political neophytes you two really are.

by Anonymousreply 546September 10, 2020 1:46 PM

The Times is kind of playing this whole thing down: it's not the top story on the site. I think they feel scooped by the Post.

I also think they're busy working on a both-sides takedown of Biden. With GOP senators.

by Anonymousreply 547September 10, 2020 1:49 PM

The pigeon-headed whore has been looking terrible lately.

I thought that too - that she looked particularly drained & tired. Sarah, on the other hand, might have a shovel face, but that bitch could lie with gusto. She was a true believer. PHW is a true believer too, but just doesn't seem to have the stomach (pun intended!) for it that Sarah did

by Anonymousreply 548September 10, 2020 1:51 PM

[quote] People made up their minds about Trump a long time ago, pro or con.

R546, you underestimate the IQ of the public. There are at least 5% of voters who are currently undecided.

The margins matter.

by Anonymousreply 549September 10, 2020 1:54 PM

I think this thread is overlooking the importance of two of the disclosures:

"Trump also boasted to Woodward that Kim “tells me everything,” including a graphic account of Kim having his uncle killed."

"How monumentally stupid can you be to blab to a star reporter that you 'developed a secret new nuke" that China and Russia don't know about."

Did it not occur to him that either of these claims might incite considerable ire, in their respective countries, in the Bureau of Unfortunate Accidents R Us?

by Anonymousreply 550September 10, 2020 1:54 PM

R546, 5% of likely voters are currently undecided, according to Reuters/Ipsos, 9/3-9/8.

Likely voters, undecided. 5%. There's a margin to be won.

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by Anonymousreply 551September 10, 2020 1:55 PM

WW since the Russians greyed this out

by Anonymousreply 552September 10, 2020 1:59 PM

Something else that bothers me about CNN, r541, are those little cartoon commercials they have with the donkey and the elephant. In one of them, they're playing tug-of-war. They're portrayed with equal stubbornness to budge an inch. Another one had them seated on a bench with one insisting on a 6' social distance...the elephant.

by Anonymousreply 553September 10, 2020 2:01 PM

R553, yeah, CNN is all about both-sides. Having Anderson and other liberal hosts means nothing if 1/2 of guest are GOP shills. It's awful. I stopped watching regularly two years ago. They helped Trump get elected.

by Anonymousreply 554September 10, 2020 2:06 PM

[quote]So many of us have been saying this was plausible for years, and everyone, especially the media, shrugged the idea off as laughable.

what media?

I might dwell in a bubble but no media I'm aware of shrugged this off

by Anonymousreply 555September 10, 2020 2:06 PM

[quote]Did it not occur to him that either of these claims might incite considerable ire, in their respective countries, in the Bureau of Unfortunate Accidents R Us?

No, it didn't. The same way it didn't occur to him that revealing it to a reporter who will publish is an open invitation to any and all hostile foreign intelligence to 'Please infiltrate us and steal our natsec secrets! I'm begging you!".

It's basically aiding and abetting the enemy aka treason by the popular understanding of the word.

by Anonymousreply 556September 10, 2020 2:13 PM

I don't think "the popular understanding" is a thing in the USA, R556.

by Anonymousreply 557September 10, 2020 2:15 PM

"Downplaying" is Trump's word for it. The media, as usual, not only quotes him saying this but has adopted it as the description of what he did.

When what he did was not downplay. He actively lied, gaslighted and sabotaged.

by Anonymousreply 558September 10, 2020 2:17 PM

Why are there lines through the first post?

by Anonymousreply 559September 10, 2020 2:19 PM

R534 "the tapes are fake" "just trying to sell books" "no proof"

by Anonymousreply 560September 10, 2020 2:19 PM

If you haven't seen the years of "Russians couldn't have/didn't change votes" from the media, both administrations, and alleged experts, r555, that's not my responsibility. Go look it up.

by Anonymousreply 561September 10, 2020 2:23 PM

Calling it a hoax goes far beyond downplaying it

by Anonymousreply 562September 10, 2020 2:24 PM

People impossibly undecided at this juncture may very well not vote.

by Anonymousreply 563September 10, 2020 2:24 PM

He could have (and inarguably should have) both warned us AND kept us calm. These are the things Presidents are required to do. But no, he was more concerned with his own popularity and the stock market. He was willing to lead his idiot followers into deathtraps just because it looked good on camera.

by Anonymousreply 564September 10, 2020 2:25 PM

Reporter: "Was the President lying to the American people who then died because their President was downplaying a threat to them?"

Sen. Mitch McConnell: "Look, I didn't look at the Woodward book."

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by Anonymousreply 565September 10, 2020 2:27 PM

[quote]Woodward: The NSA and the CIA have evidence that Russia installed malware in voting machines in at least two Florida counties in 2016

[quote]So many of us have been saying this was plausible for years, and everyone, especially the media, shrugged the idea off as laughable.

"The media" reported it over a year ago.

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by Anonymousreply 566September 10, 2020 2:28 PM

I'm sure you will look at it Mitch.

by Anonymousreply 567September 10, 2020 2:28 PM

A bit OT but what does Mitch do all fucking day? It certainly isn't "examine the 400+ bills the house has waiting on his desk".

It can't all be slowly retracting his head into his neck and out again. Can it?

by Anonymousreply 568September 10, 2020 2:34 PM

[quote]Sen. Mitch McConnell: "Look, I didn't look at the Woodward book."

Let's have an easy bet, Mitch.

$26T of national debt says if this same book with same tapes was about Obama, you'd be gavelling in an impeachment trial as we speak.

by Anonymousreply 569September 10, 2020 2:35 PM

Thread 2

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by Anonymousreply 570September 10, 2020 2:35 PM

[quote]A bit OT but what does Mitch do all fucking day? It certainly isn't "examine the 400+ bills the house has waiting on his desk".

All Senators and Reps spend the majority of their days begging for money.

by Anonymousreply 571September 10, 2020 2:36 PM

Trying again - Thread 2 - All The President's Lies

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by Anonymousreply 572September 10, 2020 2:37 PM

Neckbeard troll interlopers have greyed out the OP. No matter, the thread is what it is!

by Anonymousreply 573September 10, 2020 2:39 PM

Not that I feel sorry for them, but working in the Dump administration must be exhausting cleaning up after Cheetolini's daily fuck-ups.

by Anonymousreply 574September 10, 2020 2:44 PM

[quote]Sen. Mitch McConnell: "Look, I didn't look at the Woodward book."

The are all such cowards (and liars). They always say -- I did not see the tweet or did not read the quote - so they cannot comment on it. Then they go scurry on the rock they came from huffing in self-righteous indignation.

by Anonymousreply 575September 10, 2020 2:48 PM

I know, R575. And it's a fucking Tweet! We're not asking their opinion on Last Year at Marienbad.

by Anonymousreply 576September 10, 2020 2:53 PM

The Deadzone really was prophetic, huh?

In all seriousness, I'm surprised nobody has taken him out. He's literally a danger to the world, but the CIA just keeps sitting there with a thumb up their ass. 0

by Anonymousreply 577September 10, 2020 2:55 PM

That's because the CIA and the entire American military is afraid of Trump and the Deplorables, R577.

Can you imagine? The US spends hundreds of billions of dollars annually to "protect" the United States, and yet everyone is deathly afraid of Cadet Bone Spurs and his rag tag band of fat, old, paunchy white guys with guns. They're the proverbial third rail that no one wants to touch.

by Anonymousreply 578September 10, 2020 3:00 PM

Trump has repeatedly claimed that Fauci was against closing the border to China: “When I closed the border to China, [Dr. Anthony Fauci] disagreed with that and then ultimately he agreed and said I saved hundreds of thousands of lives.” The president went on to repeat the claim, saying that due to his decision to restrict travel with China he was “criticized by everybody, including Dr. Fauci.”

Woodward's book tells a different tale.

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by Anonymousreply 579September 10, 2020 3:02 PM

R566, I'm sorry you missed the 2018 senate report that said the Russians didn't change a single vote, or Politico's article just last December about how Russia came close but didn't actually change any votes, or HuffPo's "Russians Had Ability To Change Voter Data But Didn't" article in 2017, or the July 2019 senate intelligence report that said Russia could have changed votes but they had no evidence of it.

Even the article you linked said they didn't change any votes.

Did you even read it? Or are you just some baby who wants to fight on the internet?

This is the first time we've heard that there was malware placed on machines which erased votes.

I'm sorry you don't like that, but it's the truth. For years we've been told Russia hacked but didn't do anything. That's very obviously not true, and the media wouldn't listen to anyone who suggested otherwise. And now they're largely trying to shrug this off as just a repeat of what DeSantis told us last year, but it's not, it's new information.

Russia didn't just look around and hack into things for lulz. They changed votes.

by Anonymousreply 580September 10, 2020 3:09 PM

[quote]Even the article you linked said they didn't change any votes. This is the first time we've heard that there was malware placed on machines which erased votes.

Woodward does not claim that any votes were changed. "While there was no evidence the malware had been activated, it was sophisticated and [italic]could[/italic] erase voters in specific districts. (Emphasis mine.) That's no different than the previous reporting.

by Anonymousreply 581September 10, 2020 3:14 PM

R534 R535 This is part of the problem, isn't it? Not partisan propaganda, but a tape of his own voice saying things that would force any President before 2016 to resign immediately... and the response is, "yah, it's just somebody who wants to sell books...."

The country and its citizens are irrational:

1) I wanted to be a cheerleader, and not cause panic. I kept information quiet in order not to panic Americans!

2) If Joe Biden is elected the suburbs will be overrun by anarchists, criminals, violent socialists and housing projects (you know who lives there!!) who will destroy the suburbs and your way of life forever!!!

This said literally the same day. And Trumpists think there is no problem, no contradiction. It's a cult.

by Anonymousreply 582September 10, 2020 3:19 PM

Sorry, these revelations mean nothing to the election outcome.

I'm waiting for the pee tapes.

by Anonymousreply 583September 10, 2020 3:21 PM

THE CUNT CANNOT BE TRUSTED!!! HE TOLD HIM ABOUT THE NUKE SECRETS!!!

I BET JARED HAS GIVEN ALL THE NUKE SECRETS TO ISRAEL ALREADY!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 584September 10, 2020 3:22 PM

R583 The hooker tapes would make no difference either. If you've stuck with Trump this long nothing... nothing... will make you change your mind.

We're sick.

by Anonymousreply 585September 10, 2020 3:33 PM

I see the right wing trolls have greyed out this thread.

by Anonymousreply 586September 10, 2020 3:35 PM

Gee, I'm not sure, those comments about the military and now giving a journo nuke secrets? I think many will have a problem with this.

by Anonymousreply 587September 10, 2020 3:35 PM

What are you arguing with me about then, R581?

I said the media and government have been repeatedly downplaying the idea that votes were changed, to the point of consistently saying there were no changed votes.

At R537, I said that votes being changed was "plausible" but the media won't say so, and in fact has NEVER admitted it was plausible.

You wanted to argue with me, and said the media had already reported it a year ago, but the article you linked to did NOT acknowledge that it was possible votes were changed. It said the opposite. It proved my point: that even with evidence to the contrary, the press keeps saying it's not possible any vote changed.

Now you're saying that's the exact point you were always trying to make. Okay. Great. But that's what I've been saying all along.

We've just learned that machines had malware designed to erase votes installed on them by the Russians. The media's official line is still that no votes were changed, because DeSantis said so, I guess. It's getting ridiculous at this point.

I stand by what I said: we're going to find out votes were changed. The media may have gone from outright hostility to the idea of hacking to simply failing to mention that it's likely specific votes were hacked, but they still won't admit it's plausible that it happened.

by Anonymousreply 588September 10, 2020 3:40 PM

R584 = the NSA.

by Anonymousreply 589September 10, 2020 3:43 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong. He said he didn't want to create a panic. He didn't say panic Americans. He was talking about the stock market.

by Anonymousreply 590September 10, 2020 3:46 PM

Pence says that Trump shut down the economy to save the American people from Covid. Wasn't the shutdown based on each state Governors decision? Didn't Trump want everything to stay open and encouraged his brain dead followers to "liberate" states who did?

Pence is a liar too! Pass it on.

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by Anonymousreply 591September 10, 2020 3:47 PM

[quote] Pence is a liar too!

Tell me about it!

by Anonymousreply 592September 10, 2020 3:50 PM

When I hear Trump say he's concerned about "creating a panic," I also hear him talking about the stock market. Biden nailed it when he said that was Trump's main concern.

by Anonymousreply 593September 10, 2020 3:51 PM

If the Russians had indeed hacked those voting machines it Florida it was likely a test run for a larger project, and will be even worse if it turns out they were somehow able to fuck with the results.

And if the fact that this thread was greyed out isn't proof that people other than the usual collection of gays and lesbians are all over DL these days, I'm not sure what is.

by Anonymousreply 594September 10, 2020 3:53 PM

Trump can scream FAKE NEWS all day long, but nobody except his Deplorable base will be convinced.

Not only Trump but also guys like McConnell should immediately resign. And that dismissive line "I didn't read the tweet or the book" should get McConnell bitch slapped viciously. It's your fucking job to be informed and make informed decisions.

by Anonymousreply 595September 10, 2020 3:57 PM

r577 if we were taking out our own President we wouldn't be a democracy would we?

by Anonymousreply 596September 10, 2020 3:57 PM

When I hear Trump say he's concerned about "creating a panic," I also hear him talking about the stock market. Biden nailed it when he said that was Trump's main concern.

And even that is specific to: "I wanted to give Repig senators, big money donors & of course my idiot offspring the opportunity to bail on the hospitality industry, invest in pharmaceutical companies, etc. and leave the chumps holding the bag!" #SUCKERS!!

by Anonymousreply 597September 10, 2020 3:57 PM

The story is buried deep below the fold on the Völkischer Beobachter website, while a story about Portland's ban on facial recognition software and the privileged backgrounds of some BLM protesters arrested in NYC are the top stories.

In other words "Deflect and Ignore!"

by Anonymousreply 598September 10, 2020 4:00 PM

^^Reference explained

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by Anonymousreply 599September 10, 2020 4:00 PM

Let's post on Part Two.

by Anonymousreply 600September 10, 2020 4:01 PM

Thank you and Bajour, Mr. Woodward!

by Anonymousreply 601September 10, 2020 4:08 PM
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