Are American boys still getting circumcised?

I meant Eastern Europe!

Hopefully, OP.

Ah yes, the uncut troll rears his hooded head. We eagerly await the arrival of the "mutilated " troll, followed by the " dick cheese" troll. it must be a new month.

I hope they're not. Circumcision is a ludicrous, ancient, and unnecessary process. I wish I'd not been circumcised. I find 'uncut' so fucking hot.

Barbaric!

Of course they are. Thankfully.

Circumcision is horrific, and yes I'm circumcised.

Must we have this same thread every fucking day?

New nephew was last week. In the hospital the day after he was born - no questions asked.

[bold] The One Where All The Pro-Smegma Trolls Can Congregate

Now just asked simple question and hoped to get some non-smegma related information. Should have known better. This is Datalounge after all

Well if no one is showering anymore they can convert those gangbang shower rooms into classrooms to help with lower classroom student body count and social distancing.

I didn’t get my son circumcised and he was born last year. I made sure I didn’t tick that box at the hospital.

Good for you. I am really jealous of these guys who were allowed to remain intact. Apparently we lost of lot of pleasure when we were snipped.

R13 Ummm who invited the Frau Cunt on the site? Get OUT!!!!!!!!!

There is a guy on youtube who talks about being circumcised as an adult. He claims there is no difference in the pleasure he gets. I mean considering these many centuries all these circumcised men producing sperm like gushing fire hydrants I seriously doubt circumcision inhibits pleasure.

R16 I think it has to do more with the nerves forming from birth to past puberty.

LOVE MY CUT MEN!!! ❤️

The bullsh*t justification that doctors gave parents to circumcise their sons was “do you want your son to look different from other boys in gym class showers” is no longer valid since nobody showers in gym class anymore. And when they get out of school and join health clubs they never undress in front of other guys. So what’s the point? Just keep it clean and enjoy the feeling.

[quote] There is a guy on youtube who talks about being circumcised as an adult. He claims there is no difference in the pleasure he gets. I mean considering these many centuries all these circumcised men producing sperm like gushing fire hydrants I seriously doubt circumcision inhibits pleasure.

The difference here being he made the decision to be circumcised as an adult. By circumcising an infant, you are depriving them of the choice. It's their body, let them decide what to do when they're of legal age.

Puritanical Americans and backward Muslims have a lot in common, don't they? Body mutilation and mass murder are their specialty, of course.

And this one fucking scary, tight mutilated dong!!!

R21, you forgot to add Jews to your incredibly stupid list.

[quote]There is a guy on youtube who talks about being circumcised as an adult. He claims there is no difference in the pleasure he gets.

One delusional guy's glowing review and you take it as a generalization for some billion people? No wonder medical science is not your forté.

OP is at least 70 years old. I think the last time I heard the term “health club” was when Falcon Crest was still on the air.

We should take a page out of the tribal Africans book and circumcise girls too while you're at it.

Yes, R22, thank you for your correction. Those bloodthirsty Jewish men with their ugly,mutilated dongs too. Circumcision and mass murder go hand in hand!

A 2013 C.D.C. report that analyzed decades of hospital data found that the national rate of newborn circumcision dropped from about 65 percent to about 58 percent between 1979 and 2010.

ALL DICKS MATTER!!!

Apparently we lost of lot of pleasure when we were snipped.

And gained loads of cheese!!!!

I am uncut and I don't like mine. I prefer cut. Guess you prefer what you don't have. NO I am not going to get snipped this late in life.

Everything r4 said. There’s no need for it. I’m also circumcised and wish I weren’t.

There is nothing uglier on the planet than an uncut dick. If I had grown up in an era and society that didn't have circumcision I would have been straight. Seeing that gorgeous head on a dick even flaccid is what it's all about.

R32, no amount of non-circumcised men will ever turn your MARY ass str8 just because you’ve fetishized cut dicks to the point that you think you couldn’t live without them. Actually, you becoming str8 would be a welcome change to the gay community, please remove yourself from DataLounge post haste!

I couldn't care either way as long as you can jerk or suck the guy off fully without any "issues".

I'm cut and I like it. I don't want smelly dick cheese and the maintenance.

Younger men don't shower at school or at the gym.

R32 is a troll. They're so easy to spot.

Right I'm a troll. Ha! Cut dick is probably the only thing the human species ever got right.

Circumcision is really important. It keeps the germs out. Uncircumcised men spread disease to other men and to women. Probably why Evita died so early and why so many women in India have cervical cancer.

R32 i have posted those exact same sentiments myself. And I'm uncut !

I cannot think of a single cock I have sucked that made me think "Gee, I wish this thing had a foreskin." And I have sucked a lot of cocks.

I've been with a lot of European men and things can get stink and gross. I prefer cut.

I asked my neice if my great nephews were circumcised at the Thanksgiving dinner and now I'm uninvited to Christmas!

Most American are still circumcising, because it's the only thing that makes any sense. The only people who are not circumcised are poor people and foolish hippies who vote for Bernie and AOC. No one with any brains would allow their child to go through life with a foreskin.

Uncircumcised has a "poor white trash" stigma in America.

It certainly looks it.

I dunno. Maybe it's just me. I don't ask for details about my nephews and grand nephews cocks.

Jesus was uncut and so were the Founding Fathers. You insensitive pricks (all puns intended) are such pussies because I bet for all of your talk you wouldn’t dare cut the skin off of your penis as an adult. Go ahead, take a knife and mutilate your dick right now for no reason and then tell me it makes you a better man—I bet you couldn’t if you tried. But force an infant to do it? So alpha!

[quote]Go ahead, take a knife and mutilate your dick right now for no reason and then tell me it makes you a better man

Not really happy with the dick you ended up with, are you?

R49, on the contrary, I’m so thrilled about my uncut long schlong that I wouldn’t trade it for anything. But at least I’m not mutilating infant boys’ genitals against their will.

Again, I say, “Go ahead, take a knife and mutilate your dick right now for no reason and then tell me it makes you a better man.”

I’m not sure how stating that makes me unhappy with my penis, but I’m sure you were just so pleased to post a comment so I’ll let you have it. “Oh, no! My uncircumcised penis will ever be as sensitive as R49! God have mercy!”

Why are the uncircumcised so angry and irrational? Maybe it's the funk from the lack of proper penis hygiene.

R51 lacks wit and brain power. I hope his ugly penis makes up for the rest of his inadequacies (but somehow I doubt it).

I've been with enough uncut guys to know I prefer being cut. Stank dick cheese is the worst. I would hate to have to maintain that all the time.

I think it would be kinky fun to have a big uncut dick and make lovers who like that sort of thing lick it clean a few times a day.

R54 that sounds fun. In the mean time they can lick my big cut dick.

It's really not the fault of the foreskin that some people amass smegma under it, but rather the person you hook up with as he must be too filthy and lazy to clean it up. And it's kinda telling of your own association too - dirtiness attracts dirtiness.

And I feel sorry for the guys who have had their foreskin removed since they will never be able to grow it back and feel how sensual they can be, unlike us who are intact and we can have the foreskin removed if we want to. RIP American foreskins. boo hoo hoo

You are a loon R56

“And it's kinda telling of your own association too - dirtiness attracts dirtiness.” I couldn’t agree more, R56. (R57 must be a frau who circumcised all of her sons because she thought it made their penises look “pretty”.)

You dirty whores keep hooking with other dirty whores and you seem to think that every other gay guy is a dirty whore like you are. Just because you keep bedding men with unwashed asses and dicks doesn’t mean it’s representative of the rest of us that like to shower and wipe. Raise your standard and then maybe you’ll raise your opinion.

You know who loved raw, uncut dick? All of the women in your ancestry.

Uncut dicks get stanky by the end of the night.

Do we really have to do this again?

I was circumcised at the age of 28, due to an unfortunate trip to Thailand (got a tiny sliver of beach sand glass accidentally embedded in the foreskin which resulted in an infection, and the worst pain of my life)

It isn’t true to say that there is NO difference after circumcision. There is definitely a change in sensitivity and lubrication. But the changes are in type rather than in level and some changes were very positive. My orgasms are more intense now, while before circumcision they were more about the head, if that makes sense. It takes a bit longer to come, which is a good thing, and yes, the level of end-of-day smell goes down and hygiene is a breeze now.

I did miss my foreskin for a while but I don’t give a thought now. My brother got circed as well at the request of his wife and he’s fine with it too.

That’s great, R61. I’m glad it worked out for you. Knowing what you had to go through, would you subject the same operation to helpless infants against their will?

At least you had a choice.

Wow. Some of you are so stupid on both sides of this .

[quote]Jesus was uncut

Uh no he wasn't. He was. Jew, moron.

And to the anti-Uncut people spouting their stupidity, 70%+ of the men on this planet are NOT circumcised and they and their partners are doing just fine.

I'm not going to fuck those guys r63. I prefer cut.

Nothing worse than bringing a guy home at the end of the night and getting confronted with a stinky cheese dick. And many European men are pretty bad at hygiene. American men, of all social classes, tend to keep their shit tight.

I am cuban and there is something about cut cocks that turns me off. it just take the appeal of what a nice pinga should look like.the same goes for men that shave their pubes. besides, I just love the smell of cocks and I have been with plenty of guys latinos and europeans and I have never seen in my whole life smegma,never at all. in fact, my experience with uncut guys is not that exciting at all, I just dont like to see scars or one part darker than the other, and the head is usually dry or "cracked" I dont know how to describe it but I can see the "wrinckles" like what we call in spanish "cuartada". anyway, uncut cuts have a swollen moist look and feel and the smell is so wondetful. i also love when the cock is hard and covered with skin and then I roll back the skin and uncover a nice big mushroom head. most of the time the first thing that i do is to get a whiff of the head, then of the entire shaft, and then i proceed to suck and taste the juicy uncut dicks.

Yuck. r65. Smeg is nasty and makes me want to puke.

Mutilating the penis should be outlawed.

Don't mess with nature.

I am uncut (East European) but would like to get circumcised. But it's really expensive and I'm afraid it will hurt like hell

Don't do it. Uncut is natural.

If you're horny and like dick, does it matter?

Yes it does matter. Sucking cut dick is like sucking your thumb. There's no joy in it. No move. No taste. Good thing I can't suck my own dick even though I'm hung 9 inches like most of you here.

[quote]70%+ of the men on this planet are NOT circumcised

I have never understood what this brings to the justification for "uncut." Who gives a shit? More people eat at McDonald's than at my favorite restaurant. Doesn't mean the food is better.

In my hospital doctors work hard at talking parents out of circumcising newborns. In fact, many of my colleagues refuse to perform the procedure and cite the fact that is isn't medically necessary.

Which hospital, r74?

Hospital Dickus Intactus Boulder, CO

It's one of those peculiarly American phenomena like not going metric, driving on the wrong side of the road, or having a sexual criminal and his hooker in the White House.

R77 But they don't drive on the wrong side of the road in America. You confused them with Britain

I've only blown cut guys. I'd have to be shown what to do with a foreskin but that could be a fun lesson.

Just put your lips together and blow.

A circumcised penis

R65 it sounds like you also love a scat filled tongue, to say you like the smell is disturbing at the least.

[quote]“Oh, no! My uncircumcised penis will ever be as sensitive as [R49]! God have mercy!”

Who's the sensitive one?

Again, the only problem I have with uncut is when they whine and shriek like a little girl if you stroke 100% of their dick vs the little hand wiggle 30% of the dick that they can handle. Just annoying to deal with. Can't suck the head of their dick half the time which is the enjoyable part to blow because it's "too much for them".

Not all uncut guys are like this but there are some shrieking guys who are prissy about their foreskin who are and it just ruins the sex.

Lots of jews aren't circumcised any more too I seem to recall reading. Correct? It's certainly a weird and barbaric practice. Let's chop off the top of an ear! Why didn't that take off?

[quote]I have never understood what this brings to the justification for "uncut." Who gives a shit? More people eat at McDonald's than at my favorite restaurant. Doesn't mean the food is better.

Wow you really are stupid.

Because people are shrieking about (false) problems of uncut (e.g. hygiene, stds, cheese, blah blah blah). People will even claim studies show Uncut get HIV more (which is a misinterpretation of data about unprotected sex among heterosexuals in AFRICA, and the difference was statistically significant but not really meaningful, i.e it was like comparing 0.10% to 1.3% which technically is different, but 99% of both group did not get hiv).

If any of these "problems" were real, you'd see them being issues in the majority of global population.

But this level of logic apparently is too advanced for you.

Too dangerous. It shouldn't be done.

I've seen some tragic cuts on beautiful african cocks. And these guys were lucky their dicks still functioned.

I like being cut, I don't like putting an uncut dick in my mouth. Nothing's going to change that.

If the tradition had been to cut off the top of your forefinger as an infant to prevent masturbation, people on here would be defending that too

[quote] I like being cut, I don't like putting an uncut dick in my mouth. Nothing's going to change that.

we all do what we're used to and exclaim that's the way it should be.

That's why so many people still believe in God

R89 🙄

[quote]I like being cut, I don't like putting an uncut dick in my mouth. Nothing's going to change that.

Look up sequitur.

[quote]Look up sequitur.

Nope. Don't need to.

The uncut trolls are hilarious. IRL I've never known anyone who is so anti-circumcision. My female friends have told me they prefer cut. Uncut dicks are gross to a lot of American women.

{quote] My female friends have told me they prefer cut. Uncut dicks are gross to a lot of American women.

People get used to what they experience the most. Uncut wouldn't be gross if that was the norm.

Many African men are used to and like women who are circumcised--does that mean an untouched vagina is automatically gross?

Female circumcision is in no way related to male circumcision. It's a barbaric practice that really does mutilate the body.

R95 This victim of female circumcision says it can be worse for the boy

R93 Why should men's bodies permanently altered based on what women like or dislike? Sexist much?

[quote]The uncut trolls are hilarious. IRL I've never known anyone who is so anti-circumcision. My female friends have told me they prefer cut. Uncut dicks are gross to a lot of American women.

^^^ Has never left the country

My sister is very anti-circumcision. She says it's cosmetic surgery on genitals, so her sons were left alone. They have friends who immigrated from Eastern Europe, so my nephews are not alone amongst their peers.

They are still young, so no clue how they'll feel about it down the road.

She has said the trend is moving away from circumcision.

The grandparents were horrified.

r98 I've traveled the world, I was speaking about American women since this is an American-centric board.

I love how the go-to insult on DL is "untraveled." Please.

Circumcision is still the standard in the US. There is a contingent of people who don't circumcise, but they're not anywhere near the majority. The US still has the "poor white trash" opinion of uncircumcised dicks.

A little cheese for the foreskin lovers.

Happily, yes. The benefits outweigh the risks by a factor of at least 100 to 1.

[bold]Circumcision Rates in the United States: Rising or Falling? What Effect Might the New Affirmative Pediatric Policy Statement Have?[/bold]

Brian J. Morris, DSc, PhD; Stefan A. Bailis, PsyD; and Thomas E. Wiswell, MD, from the Mayo Clinic Proceedings

[bold]Abstract[/bold] The objective of this review was to assess the trend in the US male circumcision rate and the impact that the affirmative 2012 American Academy of Pediatrics policy statement might have on neonatal circumcision practice. We searched PubMed for the term [italic]circumcision[/italic] to retrieve relevant articles. This review was prompted by a recent report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that found a slight increase, from 79% to 81%, in the prevalence of circumcision in males aged 14 to 59 years during the past decade. There were racial and ethnic disparities, with prevalence rising to 91% in white, 76% in black, and 44% in Hispanic males. Because data on neonatal circumcision are equivocal, we undertook a critical analysis of hospital discharge data. After correction for under reporting, we found that the percentage had declined from 83% in the 1960s to 77% by 2010. [bold]A risk-benefit analysis of conditions that neonatal circumcision protects against revealed that benefits exceed risks by at least 100 to 1 and that over their lifetime, half of uncircumcised males will require treatment for a medical condition associated with retention of the foreskin. Other analyses show that neonatal male circumcision is cost-effective for disease prevention. The benefits of circumcision begin in the neonatal period by protection against infections that can damage the pediatric kidney. Given the substantial risk of adverse conditions and disease, some argue that failure to circumcise a baby boy may be unethical because it diminishes his right to good health. There is no long-term adverse effect of neonatal circumcision on sexual function or pleasure.[/bold] The affirmative 2012 American Academy of Pediatrics policy supports parental education about, access to, and insurance and Medicaid coverage for elective infant circumcision. As with vaccination, circumcision of newborn boys should be part of public health policies. Campaigns should prioritize population subgroups with lower circumcision prevalence and a higher burden of diseases that can be ameliorated by circumcision.

[quote] I don't like putting an uncut dick in my mouth.

Get you, Miss Priss! Tell us about yer doilies.

[quote]Female circumcision is in no way related to male circumcision. It's a barbaric practice that really does mutilate the body.

Ditto!

Hate uncut dick in my mouth. The smeg, of course. Then the squishy foreskin. I like a nice clean cut cock.

[quote]Then the squishy foreskin.

This thread is making me horny!

The main anti-circ troll on DL was on a thread awhile ago and said he gave dinner parties where he held forth on the evils of circumcision. It dominates his life. He's fucking crazy.

[Quote] we all do what we're used to and exclaim that's the way it should be. That's why so many people still believe in God

Indeed, indeed. That's why so many people also believe in their god as the one and only and true god.

Mutilated dongs represent upper class??? OMFG!!! Do you walk around showing your mutilated dong? It's all about your face and your body, Murican fattards. With your inbred face and obese body, you have no class nonetheless. hahahahahahahaha FAT FAT FAT!

The "mutilated" trolls are hilarious.

In my posh boarding school the few cut boys kept their undies on when showering lol.

Circumcision is patriarchal hysteria. There is no reason for it.

It's cleaner and low maintenance r113. I like being circumcised.

It's child abuse.

I was uncut my whole life until diabetes created an infection and the only way to prevent its reoccurrence was to get cut. As an eldergay, I even had to ask if it was necessary (even though the infection was so fucking painful) because Uncut was all I knew. I was very apprehensive. Now, a few years later, I don't miss my foreskin and I'm glad I've gotten to experience my dick both ways. As a cut man now, I prefer using No lube and love the raw jack feeling.

R116 the raw jack feeling is to prevent you from abusing yourself, not for you to enjoy. Stop it.

R117, no, I won't stop. It feels awesome. Now You stop it.

I guess the jews and muslims have been keeping their boys from jacking off for several thousand years, who knew! The jacking off thing is so lame and was brainchild of a weirdo, circumcision has been going on since ancient times, get over it.

R116, I’m sorry your diabetes created an incurable yeast infection resulting in your needing to cut off pieces of skin from your penis to help regulate/prevent further infectious side effects. Eating more sugar than your body can handle can do that to you. God forbid you lose your legs or feet to diabetes, but if you do are you going to extol how much using a wheelchair is better and easier than walking?

Again, as it’s been a valid question to those circumcised as adults, would you subject the same pain and mental anguish that you went through onto helpless, unknowing infants? Circumcise all the men you want, as long as they’re men who are capable of making that decision and not helpless newborns.

This is why guys stopped taking communal showers. Fewer and fewer were getting circumcised and the revulsion they felt at seeing a dick with a foreskin sickened them. It's also why they started calling their genitals junk. Because that's what it looks like. The circumcised penis is a work of art and man at his noblest and could even be appreciated in its full glory by other men. Now women in some perverse sense think that their sons would want to remain intact when they don't know what the fuck is going on in their tiny heads. Pussy whipped men go along with it afraid that angering wives will keep them from their precious orchids.

R121 is a MARY! and an Oh, Dear! all rolled into one. Your mom must’ve been one of those women that needed her son to have a “pretty” penis.

Men stopped taking communal showers because “egads, it’s a normal penis!” and the horror is just too much to bear? MARY!

The circumcised penis is a work of art and only other noble men could recognize and appreciate its gloriousness? OH, DEAR.

Should we switch from saying “junk” to “God’s presence on Earth”? Would that help you with your brain damage, R121?

I don’t know anyone (and I’m a gym bunny) that stopped taking showers because “God wasn’t present on the penises in the locker room shower” because that sort of thing doesn’t exist.

And what kind of circumcised dick is seeking to be “appreciated in its fully glory by other men”? That sounds really gay to me.

[quote]This is why guys stopped taking communal showers. Fewer and fewer were getting circumcised and the revulsion they felt at seeing a dick with a foreskin sickened them.

No, it was mostly because of the awareness of homosexuality.

No it's because men have gradually become more sexualized and all guys are expected to be extremely well hung or be ashamed of their bodies.

Well hung guys don't care as much if someone sees them naked. I'm sure there are some unicorns but... no.

I laugh at some of the dumbasses think all millennials are hung. They're not all hung, they're just far more likely to show off if they are. A small to average dick is something to be ashamed of and to ridicule. It's something women will never really experience.

Just say no to the stank sleeve.

R122's obsession with a foreskin flapping in the wind has him in the full throes of a hysterical breakdown.

I'm Gen X and we didn't get naked or shower in gym class 30 years ago. It's not a Millennial thing. And NOBODY got naked, even the well hung guys like me.

A cut dick with a skin bridge

Are some uncut dicks actually attached to the foreskin like that? Gross.

Okay, everyone saw the Evita thread, right? She got cervical cancer and died from having sex with uncirced guys.

If the human body is perfect, why do we get our wisdom teeth removed and have braces on our teeth???

Circumcision is very important to the health and safety and comfort of men and women. The guys arguing against it are (knowingly or not) angry about not being circed. They are trying to feel less weird about the whole thing. It's obvious to an outside observer.

Do you think Norman Bates was cut or uncut?

lol at R130. Sure, Jan.

R129 in the pic at R128 the skin is fused to the head because of the circumcision

Yes I've seen gruesome results of circumcision like in r128.

I wrote that Jesus was uncut. I meant, Jesus wasn’t born circumcised. He was born uncut and then Jewish law dictated that he be circumcised. Okay, fine. But if god wanted his chosen flock to be circumcised, then why not just make them that way to begin with? Supposedly, Adam was created already circumcised. But people like Noah and Moses were actually born (not created) already circumcised. And I thought circumcision was based on the Abrahamic Covenant which is based on Abraham and his children being promised the Lord’s blessings, it was used as a visual marker to tell the blessed from the not-so-blessed if I remember correctly. If you’re not a descendent of Abraham then it doesn’t apply to you. And I thought the Bible specifically banned self-mutilation. Is that why infants are circumcised? As opposed to adults who would be militating themselves—their penises—to try and trick God into thinking that they’re also a direct descendant of Abraham? Joseph, Jesus and even Abraham were all Middle Eastern Jews, right? What if you’re Catholic? Do you still perform circumcisions since you’re not necessarily Jewish? What if you know for a fact that you’re not a descendant of Abraham and you’re not Jewish but you still follow the church and its teachings, do you still circumcise your boys?

Then again, if you’re doing this for health-related reasons then religion has nothing to do with it. I just find the arguments on both sides of the cut/uncut discussion to be more about personal taste than anything else.

Leftover bit of ignorance from some ignorant desert tribes. What America is doing with this beats me. But then it also elected Trump as president. So go ahead.

All subjects including the fall of the Sumerians come down to Trump.

R130 If you want "health and safety" use condoms. Circumcision isn't the answer to that.

Tampering with someone else's body part with irreversible surgery without his consent is unethical.

This thread is proof that Americans will eternally remain stupid and uncivilized.

R132, why Sure Jan me? What did I say that wasn't true? That uncircumcised guys spread hpv killing plenty of women in places like India?

That most middle and upper class people in the USA get their teeth fixed (which is also not just cosmetic, it's better for your heart health if you can keep your teeth clean) and have their wisdom teeth removed?

Or was it that uncirced guys are trying to justify why their parents didn't have them fixed up, to protect them from UTIs and HPV, and to make them less disgusting to women and men?

It's a bit of a myth that uncirced guys in the US are from poor whites. I find that white uncut guys tend to come from the West where there is more hippie and liberal association.

The richest guy I have ever been with was uncut.

He retired at 32 and now travels extensively.

Of all the guys I have been with he is the most memorable. He was well endowed enough and limber enough to fuck me and suck my dick at the same time.

Poor Jimmy.

R141/R130, because of this ridiculous and grasping delusion:

[quote]The guys arguing against it are (knowingly or not) angry about not being circed. They are trying to feel less weird about the whole thing. It's obvious to an outside observer.

PS: I'm circumcised, you moron.

[quote]the skin is fused to the head because of the circumcision

No, that looks like it would have been a problem regardless. Now it's just all out in the open rather than being hidden.

[quote]Circumcise all the men you want, as long as they’re men who are capable of making that decision and not helpless newborns.

OTOH, there are those of us who are very, very glad—grateful, really—that our parents chose to have us circumcised in infancy. Life would have been miserable as a smegmatic.

[quote]OTOH, there are those of us who are very, very glad—grateful, really—that our parents chose to have us circumcised in infancy. Life would have been miserable as a smegmatic.

That doesn't do anything for all the others who are NOT happy that their personal agency was taken away as infants.

Just because you're fine with it doesn't justify doing it to others who are not. Moron.

^millions of people get their "agency" taken away as children, like getting vaccinated which is actually not needed, it's called a parents agency to decide what they want for their children. When it hurts the child we can talk, otherwise STFU you hooded viper.

False equivalence. Vaccination is not irreversible surgery without consent.

[quote]millions of people get their "agency" taken away as children, like getting vaccinated which is actually not needed

Ok I am fucking DONE with you.

[quote]When it hurts the child we can talk, otherwise STFU you hooded viper.

Has never witnessed a circumcision. "When it HURTS the child?" Yeah, snpping of a piece of skin that has the most nerve endings in the body probably doesn't "hurt the child".

I'm not "hooded" btw.

Your stupidity apparently knows no bounds.

^^Bitter foreskinned cunt, tell it to your cheap ass parents.

^^^^^ Illiterate moron who can't read. I already said I'm not foreskinned.

I'm an American, and my quasi-hippie parents had me have a partial circumcision at birth—I'm actually not sure why they decided on this, but they did. I have a little bit of extra foreskin that covers just over the corona of the glans when I'm flaccid, but not enough that the whole head is covered. It's a happy medium I suppose and it's never bothered me. The bonus was that it was always easy for me to masturbate as an adolescent/teenager—I didn't understand at first why most guys needed lotion to jerk off.

The pro circ people are on a political agenda, going against reason and rights. Go figure.

I hate having a cheesy stank sleeve in my mouth. I wish uncut guys would wash it out if they're looking to get laid. It's fucking nasty.

Circumcision just makes for a more pleasant looking cock. It just looks more natural and friendly and more importantly clean. I'm fine with Europeans being uncut, but Americans should be cut. If they're not they're poor or their parents didn't love them enough to care.

Me too, r177. I guess the doctor just had his way. No hippie parents here.

r155...opps

Let me get my Ritz R10, I like a little schmear on my crackers.

[R84] Wrong. “Lots of Jews” aren’t uncircumcised. Even the most irreligious of Jews have their sons circumcised.

[quote] Americans should be cut. If they're not they're poor or their parents didn't love them enough to care.

R158: another relict of the 1950s.

Some of the posts sound like 19th century Chinese high society ladies bickering about nasty and dirty peasant girls with "un-bound" feet.

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[quote] ALL DICKS MATTER!!!

You fuck’n better believe they do. Cocks Rock!!

R51 that’s a good one, that’s funny.

[quote] Do we really have to do this again?

Seriously

I just can't with most uncircumcised penii, especially the ones with the excessive foreskins. They look like lizards.

That's a shame R169 that you have an issue with a normal penis, having a term like "uncut" is quite pointless when compared to a victim of male genital mutilation. I do of course appreciate that people are conditioned by what they see as normal by what surrounds them, blame that on religion or odd cultural practises, such as earlobe stretching.

R165 who the fuck cares what that POS has to say. He would be the last person on the planet that I would take advice from.

Some relevant statistics.

And some more, a little more current:

Nothing worse than a big helping of cheese when you're down there. Gross!

^^^ You guys are so immature and ignorant. It's quite embarrassing actually.

I've lived in Europe and have been with many many many uncut guys and have encountered cheese a total of once. and it was little specs that looked like dried skin.

I've also been with many uncut guys and have experience many dirty cocks.

I guess the caliber of man you fuck must be an issue.

I think the apparent loss of sensation, over time, is enough of a reason not to circumcise. But give a male a chance to decide for himself, please.

A man who is going to be lax on hygiene is going to be that way regardless of the state of his penis. He's not going to have a clean crotch and ass and a dirty dick, with or without foreskin.

Nope r177 they were all otherwise "clean." I just don't like fucking with uncut dicks. They also feel weird in my mouth, with the extra skin.

I think circumcision is a good thing, glad that Americans do it.

Circumcision is barbaric and should be outlawed. All guys must wash their dicks, intact and cut. Don't think just because you're cut that you're clean. You're not. The issue of smegma is overblown. If it occurs, it's mostly a young issue and very limited because it is mostly made up of skin cells shedding. And this happens more when the body is growing. By the time you're in your late teens/early 20s, your body has for the most part stopped growing and you shed much less skin cells. This is utter nonsense to think smegma just simply appears with normal regular hygiene. You would have to not shower for a considerable period of time for anything to accumulate. And if that were to happen, it is a case of bad hygiene all around. And if a cut guy didn't clean himself for days on end, his hygiene wouldn't be appealing just the same as anyone. Women also can get smegma in the folds of their genitals. We get earwax from time to time. We get dirt under our fingernails sometimes. The solution to hygiene is to was--not cut off a healthy body part from the penis.

[quote]Circumcision is barbaric and should be outlawed

No it's not and no it shouldn't. JFC why are you so obsessed with this issue? Nobody really thinks about it that much.

R181. Why are you so obsessed? If no one really thinks about it all that much, then it shouldn't be done because it is cruel and unnecessary. No one has a right to cut off a perfectly healthy body part as a routine practice to please your fragile sensibility. If there is a problem with an individual's foreskin (tightness, etc.), then that person should be treated individually--and circumcision is not the only alternative. Women don't pre-emptively cut off their breasts because there is a chance of breast cancer. And by the way, cancer of the penis as an older males is so rare that routine circumcision is never the answer for an infant. Some argue that a circumcision prevents urinary tract infections. Again, this is false. The rate of UTIs between males cut or intact is miniscule in the first year of life, and after that, there is no difference between any groups of infants, young boys or men. An average amount of hygiene for any human is all that is necessary to maintain bodily integrity and avoid diseases without slicing off the foreskin.

By and large, the rest of the world does not cut its males except for religious reasons--which is ridiculously insane and barbaric. And males in Europe and Asia, for example, are not sick or dying because of their intact penises. In fact, their genital well-being is healthier than males in the United States. Also, Europe and most of the rest of the world have lowers rates of STDs and HIV than the United States, and the overwhelming majority of the world's males, notably Europe and elsewhere, males are intact.

'Cause it's being a contrarian to rile you up. r182.

r182 you are WAY too obsessed with this, such an odd thing to die on the cross for.

Now that the election has passed I will only use FF when I see the word “stank“

Would you like some whine with that cheesy dick?

Circumcision has no purpose in the modern world. Even stats about preventing HIV are ridiculously overblown.

It's tradition in the US and was started by a guy who specifically pushed it to stop masturbation.

People are defending tradition, not science.

I love my cut dick! Europeans are obsessed with cut dicks, btw. I've hooked up with many and they can't stop fondling it.

I'm uncut and am not that intrested in dicks that are uncut as well. I'm an oddity in America and prefer circumcized dicks. As i get older my foreskinined dick causes problems with cleanliness and such. I take extra care

Yet ANOTHER thread about cut dicks?

Don't you guys ever get TIRED of this subject?

This thread is useless without pics of youthful uncut sizemeat.

Your knob has a problem with cleanliness because your older?! How OLD are are you R190 that you can't take a fucking shower?!

Any time I visit friends and discover that their baby boys are "intact," I go ahead and quickly take care of the oversight for them. It only takes a minute and I'm sure I'll get many thanks in the years to come.

If I find that a friend has an infant with an uncut dick that person is cut out of my life immediately with no looking back. I figure they have the mentality of the troll on this thread whose favorite word is barbaric. They should just move to Africa to convert the heathens.

B U M P.

Penile mutilation leads to all sorts of mental problems. And filthy people are filthy no matter what; some mutilation won't make them any nano-millimeter cleaner.

You're nuts r196.

Stop mutilating penises. It's barbaric and unnecessary. Foreskin forever.

[Quote] How OLD are are you [R190] that you can't take a fucking shower?!

No surprise there old people skip showers. Fact.

[quote]R193: Your knob has a problem with cleanliness because your older?!

Oh, dear.

Less time with clever names, more time with remedial English, Miss DolomiteSprint.

Oh, dear yourself. If you want perfect grammar, stay off the fucking Internet.

People are infuriatingly stupid. There are two separate issues. I personally do prefer sucking a circumcised dick, but I still think it’s barbaric to mutilate babies.

Calling it mutilation is way over the top. Geez, calm down. Some of you are just dramatic for the sake of being dramatic. It is a perfectly legitimate and valid practice and one that parents can and should be able to make, if they wish, for their infant sons.

Hooded vipers are dangerous and hiss and bite, eliminate them immediately..

Bless R201, finally had the grandkids around to show you how to turn the computer on again? Be a love Miss Take, ask them to explain to you the annoyance of predictive text.

[quote]I personally do prefer sucking a circumcised dick

Because they're cleaner?

An uncircumcised dick fills me with revulsion, to the point of wanting to vomit. I can't put something so repulsive in my mouth. It's not just the extra skin. It's also the different texture of the penis head.

Tsk Tsk  Here we go again with all the uncuts whining and wishing they had a proper penis like the rest of us. Sour grapes and all. It does get tiresome.

Go sandpaper your dick R209, because let's face it, you can't feel anything anyway due the nerve damage! 👍

A cut dick can feel plenty r210.

In the US circumcision is rooted in sexism

[quote]A cut dick can feel plenty [R210].

But you will never know what you are missing (i.e .the thousands of nerve endings you don't have anymore).

It's like "I can feel too! I really can!" but you have no context to know what you are NOT feeling

BTW I'm cut too but I understand biology and science.

BTW the difference in sensation isn't all that different between cut and uncut.

The pleasurable feelings come from the glans (head) of the penis, not the skin. The difference in sensation without a foreskin isn't very much.

[quote](i.e .the thousands of nerve endings you don't have anymore

We have nerve endings throughout our body. They don't all cause pleasurable feelings. The foreskin does not produce those feelings, it's the glans.

Looks like you actually flunked biology and science lol!

Wrong R216, you need to brush up on human anatomy. An adult foreskin has a similar surface area to that of a credit card, it contains sebaceous glands that lubricate and protect the glans and specialist nerve endings that specifically respond to tactile stimulation. So saying that by removing a section of the penis it does not reduce sensitivity is quite frankly illogical, you might as well say that removing a finger from your hand does not reduce sensitivity in your hand.

How can you say that R214? Do you have more than one penis?!

The USA is the only country that practiced routine non religious male genital mutilation, though not happy with female genital mutilation, not sure why, apparently that is also done for 'hygiene' and so the same reasons cited for male genital mutilation.

[quote]The pleasurable feelings come from the glans (head) of the penis, not the skin. The difference in sensation without a foreskin isn't very much.

unless you were circumcized as a sexually active adult male who had no medical problems with his foreskin, you have no way of knowing that. Moron.

As R217 points out, R216 may win the hard to achieve aware for most stupidity on this thread with his lack of knowledge of basic biology and the gall to then attempt to insult someone else who actually knows something about human anatomy.

[quote]The USA is the only country that practiced routine non religious male genital mutilation, though not happy with female genital mutilation, not sure why, apparently that is also done for 'hygiene' and so the same reasons cited for male genital mutilation.

Female circumcision is indeed mutilation, it cannot be compared to snipping a foreskin.

[quote]may win the hard to achieve aware for most stupidity on this thread with his lack of knowledge of basic biology and the gall to then attempt to insult someone else who actually knows something about human anatomy.

The nerve endings on the foreskin are not particularly sensitive, they are not the same as the glans. I've known three men who got circumcised as adults and they've all said the difference is negligible.

I have no idea why you are all choosing circumcision, of all things, as the hill to die on. It's not going to go away in the US. Americans prefer circumcised dicks.

R220 I refer you to R217.

Here, have a source as the first google hit I got on foreskin sensitivity, rather than your "opinion" on the matter.

Yes, mutilated Americans seem to prefer mutilated penis' which is completely understandable because they perceive it as being normal because it is consistent with what they see around them. If the practice was stopped, in a few years time it would seem equally as normal and be a preference. If every baby had their little toe chopped off at birth, tiny bit of skin that it is, everyone would eventually see it as normal thing to have no little toe and look in amazement at someone that had one. I'm just saying that it's illogical, historical and whilst I'm at it, hysterical.

Your right, no idea why I'm watching this thread, shall remedy.

Thanks R221.

R220's idea of "scientific data" is:

[quote]The nerve endings on the foreskin are not particularly sensitive, they are not the same as the glans. I've known three men who got circumcised as adults and they've all said the difference is negligible.

I.e. sample size of 3, anecdotal evidence. Moreover, I would bet money his 3 friends got cut as adults due to having a problem with their foreskin (which is an abnormality); if so they would not be very good judges of normal foreskin function/sensitivity even on an anecdotal basis.

I think only Jews should be circumcised. The goyim should remain unmarked.

[quote]The goyim should remain unmarked.

We are not marked. We are perfected.

sebaceous glands

And there's that stanksleeve that causes all the problems, the one that EVERY uncut guy says he cleans but really doesn't. In reality it gets stunk up and cheesy in an hour. Maybe you just get used to it after a while and go nose blind.

People on here like R225 really do sound like 11 year olds who just discovered the genitals section in the encyclopedia.

^^^^Wow that was so profound I don't know what to think. Never mind it doesn't make sense.

^^^ you're too stupid to understand it, obviously.

R4 No circumcised man wishes he weren't. This is more of your inferior self-loathing projection. You're not fooling anyone and go clean up down there.

R229 There are some who complain.

R229 speaking for all circumcised men on the planet. Moron.

R231 just the proud owner of a big beautiful circumcised penis, little anteater bitch boy

R230 nonsense propaganda by uncircumcised men who wish their parents had them circumcised so they would get more head

R231 how do you combat the overwhelmingly horrid stench emanating from your penis?

Many straight men are dumped by American women when they find out they are uncircumcised

Anti-circumcision crazies are as bad as anti-abortion crazies. Don't fucking worry about what a mother/parents choose(s) to do to her/their son's penis. It's none of your concern. The mother and/or father have agency over him & his body relating to medical care, procedures & surgeries until he is 18. It's her/their choice, so shut the fuck up about it.

If someone presents in the ED with suspected appendicitis, but the on-call general surgeon cannot ascertain with certainty that the appendix is inflamed/infected from a CT with contrast, so s/he recommends an exploratory laparotomy or exploratory laparoscopy, often the surgeon will still perform (with prior consent, of course) an appendectomy, even if the appendix is not inflamed and completely normal. The reason they do this even if it's not appendicitis is because the resulting scar tissue & adhesions at the laparotomy/laparoscopy incision site would make the surgery more difficult & risky in the future if the patient actually ends up with appendicitis. What, that can't happen either, because it's normal, healthy tissue and you said so? I realize you'll say it's different because the appendix doesn't have the same amount of nerve endings as the foreskin and doesn't serve any real purpose or function, but it's still normal, healthy issue you were born with and, more importantly, it's nobody's concern what a parent chooses to do.

A lot of bitchy and bitter uncuts on here whining about their cottage cheesy stanksleeves.

A circumcised penis is to an uncircumcised penis as a Lamborghini is to a Subaru

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R236 Pro-choice supports "my body my choice" and anti-circumcision supports "his body his choice". They have more in common than what you describe.

R48..........Jesus was a Jew, and most certainly would have been circumcised moments after birth.............

by a donkey?

It was by a dog

R241

[quote] Jesus was a Jew, and most certainly would have been circumcised moments after birth.............

No. Jewish babies are circumcised on the 8th day of life.

That's the thing, R240: It's NOT his choice until he turns 18. That's the law. If a man who is circumcised is "traumatized" that he doesn't have a foreskin, he needs a psychiatrist. The vast majority of circumcised men don't even think about it and are more than likely glad they're circumcised, because it's what they know. And just so we're clear: people who compare male circumcision to female genital mutilation are fucking morons and have already lost their argument from the jump.

[quote] No circumcised man wishes he weren't.

I am and I wish I weren't

Wow. When I started this thread, I never knew it would inspire such a passion. Love my Datalounge!

So if your wisdom teeth are coming in and cracking your other teeth, you should just let it happen? It's natural.

Someone posted a picture of Johnny Carson with his legs spread showing VPL (Visible Penis Line) and the question posted was he cut or uncut. Being a farmboy born in 1925, he was probably born at home so uncut. Apparently he had a big tool although unfortunately not a nice person.

His dong is mutilated, obviously.

This one too.