Men are disgusting

No.

They're just healthy, normal sexuality.

Get out of here, dyke.

When you have the money to afford any hot piece of ass you want, you tend to date nothing but 20-something year old models. If you give anybody the amount of money to buy boyfriends and girlfriends for the rest of their life, no matter how old they are, they will always go for the hottest because they can afford it. The only reason normal people resign themselves to dating people their own age is because they have to. If you all had the money you'd never date anybody over 30 ever again.

Cliche but true.

Or - young beautiful women throw themselves at older, rich men and it's OK. Nobody is putting a gun to her head. She knows what's up.

Sometimes you want that young 'energy' too - it's not just the sex. And cry me a river for having to fuck Brad Pitt. If she's not willing to do it, I will.

Young women use older men just as much. But we're supposed to just ignore that because women are so virtuous. Bullshit.

OP is just upset that Brad Pitt would rather dick down a hot young model than OP's cavernous, rank, prolapsed wrinkly asshole.

2 consenting adults should date whomever they please.

[quote]Men are disgusting

One of our best features.

OP types Frau.

If you're emotionally healthy and are interested in a mutual *partnership* you date someone in your age range. Give or take ten years. Dating someone 30 years younger? You have issues.

R2's post assumes (wrongly) that desiring much younger (age-inappropriate) partners is some universal male condition. It's not.

Straight culture is constantly reminding us that, despite mild clucking and disapproval, it's some sort of biological imperative for old straight men to seek younger and younger women, whereas intergenerational relationships in gay/lesbian culture are mocked, shamed, or marginalized.

[quote]Dating someone 30 years younger? You have issues.

Or you have great sex with someone 30 years younger.

Not "men," but "rich and powerful" men. As we're increasingly learning from the Jeffrey Epstein revelations, these same men would date children if they could get away with it.

Rich, old men take young girls because they want someone to take care of them when they’re elderly. After they’re dead, the widow and the kids from the first marriage will fight over the money. Just lovely.

Exactly R12 - that is really my point.

R10 It's not a universal male condition, it's a universal everyone condition. It's simple science. People are usually at their hottest in their mid-20's, especially the model types that these actors and famous men are going to meet. If you have the money, power, and fame to get anybody you want then of course you're going to get the hottest possible partner. The hottest possible partner in this case is a 20-something year old model.

There's a bunch of psychological factors in it too (authority, daddy issues, fucking younger people makes them feel young again, etc etc) but at the end of the day it boils down to basic science. Of course you're going to choose the hottest possible partner if you have the money to.

Are younger women suddenly unable to think for themselves? Why not shame them with the equal fervor you are trying to shame the men? Sexist OP.

Also, younger people are more pliable. When you’re old and set in your ways, you don’t want to compromise,

Which would a man rather eat? Tender filet mignon or a dried up slice of rump roast?

It didn't work out so well for Johnny Depp or Paul McCartney, both got screwed by their much younger partners. Meanwhile, Emanuel Macron has been quite happily married for the past 12 years to his much older wife.

r17 so you're suggesting we raise the voting age to 30, since people below that age are easily manipulated?

R19 - that's why you're a fool to marry them. And the women who marry older men like that - it's because of the money. A divorce is always in the future - and a $$$$$$ payout!

Women do it to men all the time.

Give me Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward any day. That was a real couple.

I need to see a couple of pics of the rump roast before I can make an informed decision r18.

"Straight culture is constantly reminding us that, despite mild clucking and disapproval, it's some sort of biological imperative for old straight men to seek younger and younger women."

Men always make up irrational shit that suits and benefits them. Very little discussion on how old sperm shouldnt be used for procreation. Old men are part of the reason why autism rates have jumped.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest if the guy is still super-hot like Brad Pitt. For all we know she could be after him for his body as well as for his money and fame.

When it's Donald Trump, that's another story. Melania's not with him because of his sex appeal.

Brad probably wants to start over with a new family. Why would he date an old lady like the one Keanu is dating? Waste of time.

This is all for show. He ain't fucking her. lol

it's because of low self esteem. Having someone so much younger makes them feel better about themselves and they have someone to show off. It is also about the money (because everything is)

If the person was interested in finding someone to care about, spend their life with, someone they can relate to and can relate back they would find someone within their own age range. feel sorry for them because they are searching for something they will never find.

The woman is still married an allegedly in an open relationship with “FLAMBOYANT” husband.

That’s a quote from the Daily Mail, not me. and we all know what “flamboyant” means, this being DL, after all.

Like I said yesterday, this is probably all bullshit.

He’s dating the HUSBAND, more like it. The old geezer is actually very attractive.

As I'm getting older (just reached 40, charming), I'm less and less interested in dating just for sex. That means, the criteria by which I judge potential partners have less and less to do with "hotness", as the advocate of dating young upyhread puts it, and more with compatibility, mutual interests, honesty and comfort.

It's very difficult to find these dynamics with people much younger than you. Even 10 yrs younger now seems too much to me. And I see the same tendencies in my peers, both gay and straight. Only the most insecure "forever young playboys" who are set in a routine of pulling and bragging, are still chasing the young meat. Everyone else is looking for/settling with people of the same age and life stage.

So yeah, only dating people one or two generations younger is definitely not a normal thing. It's not even about money and power because all rich and accomplished people I know are not cradle robbers even in their affairs. Only absolutely morally/emotionally fucked up people would look only for people who have nothing to do with them re: personal development etc. Dating is not the same as fucking. Dating your daughter/son's classmate is beyond strange.

Here’s the “flamboyant” hubby.

Indeed!

It's a denial of aging and inevitable death.

Hotter than Brad?

Male relationships are based on looks, everyone knows that.

R28 and R30. = sanity and emotionally maturity. Absolutely sexy qualities.

Oh, enough with the tired "all men are..." cliches, okay? Thanks.

Yeah, it’s really fucking offensive to blame gay men for the vile behavior of heterosexual men.

OPs vagina got too old and unwanted.

It's called Mother Nature, honey. Women hit their peak fertility and beauty from 18-28. Men hit their peak income and desirability post 30+.

Quit being a bitter bitch, this is how evolution rolls.

If straight men could snap their fingers and instantly 'disappear' every woman over the age of 30, ninety percent of them would.

However, very few women would do the same to men.

Except these aren’t heterosexual men, R37, and no one is even touching that model, other than to get some IVF treatments so she can give them kids.

Whoa, you type ugly, R39!!

OP lost her way to the Lchat...

I love all these armchair psychiatrists trying to say that men are all these things because they like dating younger, hotter people.

I've noticed when I was younger, I liked older men. As I've gotten older, that has reversed for some reason, and I like younger men more. I'm sure there are lots of reasons why, but the simple fact is that it is what I prefer, and it's silly of people to try to shame men (men only, of course, women are totally innocent) for dating someone younger.

Just say it grosses you out personally, and stop trying to project all your hangups on these guys.

It's hilarious when some guys bring up "science" to excuse their sexual nastiness. I remember laughing at one article which earnestly stated that younger women can cure their depression by drinking sperm. Yeah, nice try, science guy! 😂

The best part of the DM article is when it is explained that the model’s husband is OK with BP cuckolding him, because he’s “very philosophical”.

I mean, this shit is comedy GOLD to most Americans, because trust me, this “phrase” only works in Europe, which is precisely why no one gives a shit over there, hence, would never print such drivel, unless huge star power is involved.

Either way, everyone is an adult and can date whomever they want. The model isn’t even a factor here, so I personally don’t find Pitt to be disgusting.

This phrase absolutely does not work in Europe, believe me.

All men aren’t the same. I want to be with someone whose company I enjoy. It’s not just about sex and younger being hotter.

Brad Pitt has always been white trash. Clichéd trash

No, r47! It must be due to psychological hangups and all sorts of undiagnosed conditions that lead you to desiring younger flesh!@

Gold-digging chicks who are dumber than a sack of dead kittens and lazier than a hooker with a needle in her arm seek out and fuck old desperate men with money which makes men in general appear to be disgusting? Is that what you mean, OP?

If it's so gross, why are models almost always young. If it's gross, why are women congratulated when they look younger than their age? Why do animals in the wild seek young healthy mates? Why do movie actresses have expiration dates? Why did people lust over a 20-30 something Brad Pitt but may occasionally give his beauty props now that he's older? This is natural and these women are adults. The 20s are peak sexiness for most people. Everyone is willing to fuck someone youthful and healthy-looking, everyone. But most people don't have their pick of hot young things willing to jump into bed with them.

Op sounds dusty, bitter, and delusional. As a gay man, he really should have received this update when they issued his gay card.

r51 I don't think he's a gay man, she sounds more like a Frau.

Yeah but Newman was screwing around on Joanne supposedly with some journalist. R22

I think it's the fact that these once hot guys look so much older than the models it leaps out like an arrangement, not love or having things in common.

Lol @ R51 listing modelling and Hollywood as examples of "naturalness". You all sound so angry and hateful, don't you need to get laid?

OP is obviously a middle aged woman whose husband left her for a younger version.

R2, I don’t agree. Sure it’s exciting at first and the sex is good but wtf does a 50 year old (or older) talk to a 20 year old about? It wears thin after awhile.

I am 49, and feel really uncomfortable when I’m hit on by younger guys. I would actually prefer to date someone older than I am. A guy in his 20’s would just make me feel old.

[quote]Sure it’s exciting at first and the sex is good but wtf does a 50 year old (or older) talk to a 20 year old about?

Ask me!

Huge age differences are gross and creepy and ONLY and I mean ONLYYYY creepy old guys have anything positive to say about them. Ever. Thread closed.

What a load of crap, OP. Typed like someone who is both a fat and a poor, regardless of whether you're a man or woman.

r59 you sound mature.

You forgot about the tight poosey!!!

Agree with R56/R57, I think it does the opposite of recapturing youth. It would make one feel old.

On another note, I remember someone kept commenting Brad was too old and wouldn't have more kids, maybe OP. LOL No way will he not have another kid or two like all the rest of the grandpas like Michael Douglas and Richard Gere.

Demented frau thread, FF.

Rich people don’t know what to do with themselves and the concept of love doesn’t seem to exist in their world. It’s so superficial give or take a few celebs who have a long and happy marriage.

Rich people don’t know what to do with themselves and the concept of love doesn’t seem to exist in their world. It’s so superficial give or take a few celebs who have a long and happy marriage.

R63 And Bruce Willis and Dennis Quaid (he has twins with the 2nd way younger wife), I agree. Aside from wanting the firm young body to fuck and trophy wife to parade around, I also think these men (especially celebrities with huge egos) honestly believe they are exempt from the reality of getting older. They delude themselves into believing they don't LOOK or act old. When they look in the mirror, they see the same face as when they were young and hot and not the reality of how they've changed and aged. Kind of like the old DL favorite "I'm 50 but look 25." And you better believe the young gold-digging girlfriend corroborates the hell out of that lie in the beginning. Like someone said upthread, there's no fool like an old fool.

Meanwhile senile old Bruce Willis stares blankly at nothing while his 6 and 8 years old daughters play near his rocking chair.

R67 and OP, you're addressing the wrong audience. Don't you know that everyone on DL is 72 but can easily pass for 30? If you don't know, look how angry they got at this thread.

r69 yes, you are the lone exception, of course, to the rest of us geriatrics. It's interesting how obsessed you are with calling the posters on the DL elderly. Definitely some mental issues there you need to work through.

It's understandable that older men (and women) would want sex with people much younger than themselves. Young flesh is very enticing. What I can't understand is why a young person would want to hook up with someone much older than themselves, unless they're in it for the money. The main motivation behind these types of relationships is money and power, which are powerful aphrodisiacs. Of course the rich and famous attract the attention of people decades younger than themselves. Their young lovers want money and status, and they can get that by fucking or marrying a rich, famous person. It really is that simple.

r71 have you never been young?

Of course money and power has an appeal to it for some people, but it can be more than that. I dated older men when I was younger, too. In my case it wasn't because I was trying to steal their checkbook, it was because I admired their experience and knowledge. I learned a lot from them.

"Have you never been young?"

What has that got to do with anything? I myself have never wanted to be in a relationship with someone much older than myself. I've always had relationships with people my own age. I guess you just go for the old guys.

r73 Interesting, so you never learned that other people might think differently from you, and be perfectly valid in their own opinions as well? Sounds like you could have used a wiser mate at some point in your life.

I agree with the above posters that would feel like the proverbial “dirty old man” with a much younger mate. I don’t need to see the contrast between my sagging little pot belly and their nubile young body. It would make me feel more depressed than I already do, but I’ve always been a realist. You have to have capacity for illusion to think you’ve got something in common with a twenty year old.

Delusion

r75 you sound like you have some self-image issues, though. Not everyone is ashamed of their body.

I'll be honest, I dated and fucked a few older guys as well 10-30 years my senior and got off on the faux daddy play. They loved snagging somoene in their 20s. It's not that complicated. Add wealth and fame into the mix and you really get the appeal.

[R77] Yes, that’s true. I’m overly self-critical.

I never watched "Sex and the City" but wasn't there an episode where the very slutty Samantha was about to have sex with an older man but balked when she saw his naked, sagging ass?

R26 I'd say that's one of the unfortunate consequences of constantly wanting someone younger. Brad shard six kids with Jolie so the idea of just starting over (and over and over) leaves a lot of kids behind in broken homes. How happy and secure can anyone really be when they can't see value in dating some where within a decent age gap. When you get to the grandfather age and want to only date people barely out of their teen years it's just creepy. Pitt isn't quite there yet but give him time I'm sure.

I think the hypocrisy of men is so appalling: while they can't seem to disparage older woman for their less attractive looks, they expect young women to magically be attracted to their own less attractive looks.

R67, Is he sucking her youth out?

I've never been an age-ist. Lots of people have no issues with older lovers/partners. They often make fabulous lovers exactly because they ARE older and wiser and can be more loving and secure.

Why would an age difference mean they had nothing in common or to talk about? Seriously? That's just silly. I think some people need to explore outside their comfort zones. There's a whole wide world of fascinating and wonderful people.

Straight men don't see women as people, they see them as almost a person but not quite, a bit like a teenager. So the only value women have to them is sexual, which makes their qualities beyond sexual attraction irrelevant, hence the tendency for men who have achieved high status to target the most sexually attractive women regardless of their compatibility.

All straight men are like this.

The frau stench in here is strong. There's nothing inappropriate about what Brad is doing. He's in a consensual relationship with an adult that's younger than him. If this is the level of entitlement and insecurity you show, it's no wonder why men regardless of their wealth and age don't want you and frau cunts like you.

R86 = Ben Shapiro.

I knew you were a closet case you fucking little psycho midget. Now we know who the right wing trolls on every thread are, and we also know why your doctor wife is fucking the 19 year old pussy. It’s because you think WAP is gross. Come out already you chickenshit.

We can also say that these women are disgusting for whoring themselves to rich and famous men. It takes two.

I don’t understand why anyone believes it’s their job to make dating decisions for 2 consenting adults. If Brad Pitt wants to date a twenty yr old and she wants to date him. That is up to them. If Madonna wants to date twenty yr olds and they want to date her. That is their choice. It doesn’t require our input nor our judgement.

I sincerely hope Madonna botoxes her moo moo.

An eldergay and a young twink?

What's the difference?

The love just radiates from these two.

R46, which is why I wrote the rest of what I wrote.

I should have written: This phrase only works on Americans, which is the only reason a UK publication is scandalizing it, since no one in Europe gives a shit.

Totally stanning Roland “MARY!” 😱

r85, I'm not going to contradict you, however, some, if not most men whatever their sexual orientation, when they reach a certain older age, lose interest in sex.

Some acknowledge that. I've seen posters here at the DL say so, especially those in long-term relationships.

My point is that , while I'm trying to be careful not to generalize, older men want just companionship too, but it's not something that's socially acceptable to admit.

I think on purely visual terms it’s jarring: wrinkled dried up male prune clinging on for life to a much younger woman/man, there is something vampiric about that. As for older men having more “experience”, haha haha, good one. Most people and especially men, are absolute morons.

it's something you see constantly in the media but I've very rarely seen couples like that in my own social circles. Even couples on their second or third marriages seem to be of more or less the same age group.

I’ve always assumed it’s a Hollywood thing too or something for the wealthy

When a middle aged man goes for teenagers, that's a red flag. When he goes for partners in their twenties and thirties, that's just kind of sad.

I think highly narcissistic people thing dating a much younger person makes them look *young and hip* when in practice they look ridiculous.

I remember Pitt and Margot Robbie doing press for the Tarantino film & Pitt mentioned some old film. Robbie stated she hadn't seen it & Pitt said "Ahh, so much to teach you" or something along those lines. She looked like she wanted to crawl out of her skin. Sooo gross.

I'm in my 50s and have no desire to date anyone under 45. And that's pushing it. I prefer age 50+

"I’ve always assumed it’s a Hollywood thing too or something for the wealthy."

It usually is. But some ordinary women marry men much older than themselves who aren't wealthy. You don't see many ordinary men marrying much older women, though, unless they do have some hidden motive for doing it. I knew these twin sisters in their fifties who married men who were 26 YEARS younger than themselves. The men were from the Middle East and not American citizens. The women weren't wealthy, but one of them did come into some money by getting a large disability check. I guess these guys just wanted to get whatever they could get out of these stupid American women. Of course the marriages blew up in the twin's faces. One of them said to me of her husband "I bought him clothes and I bought him jewelry and I helped him get a car and I gave him my wedding ring from my first marriage so his sister could use it and I bought gifts for his nieces and nephews." I asked her why she did all that and she said "I loved him. I thought it would be a long relationship." Just goes to show how totally ridiculous some people can be. Over two decades younger and not an American citizen and he wants to marry you, a fifty-something American woman...now that is a big fat red flag.

The desirable women of their age are also partnered up, or if not, too jaded, like they are, from previous failed relationships. Just find a young bimbo that can be easily satisfied by buying them clothes and jewelry.

To put a new spin on this thread, I have noticed that people (both men and women) who are in the closet and bearding (unbeknownst to their beard) usually choose beards who are quite a bit younger or older than them.

I think it's because it's easier to fool a spouse/gf/bf who is at a different life stage and takes everything you tell them about yourself at face value because you're so different from them.

R17. We have a winner. The money and fame open up all the possibilities. Young women aren't as likely to challenge him in any meaningful way. Plus the women have fun and have it on their resume. As long as everyone knows the rules, makes perfect sense.

"Men are disgusting"

Yes they are and so are their bathrooms. Putting on a dress and calling yourself a woman will never change that. Stay out of our clean bathrooms.

[quote]Nearly every famous/rich man dates a woman young enough to be his daughter or granddaughter.

The observational, statistical and veracity skills of this crud-brained OP qualifies her to work for Trump's White House.

Fuck you, troll. Did you get a quarter from Mur**l to start each thread?

[quote] "Men are disgusting" Yes they are and so are their bathrooms. Putting on a dress and calling yourself a woman will never change that. Stay out of our clean bathrooms. —Woman: Adult human female

You honestly believe anyone here is interested in your bathrooms (which from what I understand can be pretty filthy) or even women for that matter?

This is a humorous bitchy thread - of course it is - but it has a deeply tragic undercurrent; that the heart (or the loin) wants what it wants, and for the majority of everyday people that desire will probably be the end of peace, happiness and a fulfilled life.

"We covet what we see every day." With instagram and social media, men increasingly see young nubile pussy every day.

Gay men should be the last group on the planet criticizing consenting adults for their relationships

I think part of it is ego and part of it is just plain sexual attraction. I'm a woman in my mid fifties and besides my husband I don't particularly find men my age attractive, I check out guys at least ten years younger. Most of us are basically shallow assholes, and celebrities are rich attractive shallow assholes.

And as my mother would say, there's no fool like an old fool.

R111 I was about to make fun of you for being a Frau, but your comment makes a good point and it’s well-put. I like you.

OP types like she has experienced decades of Lesbian Bed Death.

I'm straight and married to a man six years older. Very good sex life. Thanks for asking R113

Que fea! 🥴🥴

That’s not a good picture of her, I imagine.

a 27 year old who's into dating older rich Daddie-types and is in an open marriage??? She fits in perfectly here at the DL!!!

Welcome, Darling. Drinks are at 5; dinner at 8! Knee pads are complimentary!

Even when I was 20, I couldnt stomach the idea of dating a 20 year old. Theyre like kids mentally

When I see a huge age gap in any couple, I immediately think "gold digger." My dad's wife is 30 years younger than him; when they go out she refuses to hold his hand and walks about 10-15 feet ahead of him.

That is sad, R118

I'll take a manwhore any day.

The fun part is that the average old straight guy - without money or looks - thinks because movie star X get's young women, he can too.

I'm 50 (and in Dad Bod hell) and last year grew a beard. My god! The Millennial men that started hitting on me is insane! It has been so flattering!!! I've never taken the bait, but seriously considered it. I'll help them work through their "Daddy issues"!!! Why not!

I outgrew my “younger guys” thingie, thankfully!

I’m constantly hit on by younger men, and I am not the least bit interested. Now, I am not saying I’d date a 57 and over aged man, however, I ant nothing to do with men in their 30s, either.

I want someone within my age group, who I have stuff in common with and who understands my jokes and references. And I’m really into the idea of being with someone who has grey hair on their chest, where I can lay my head and nuzzle up to. It’s a very comforting and wonderful thought.

I think I’m finally growing up and I really like getting older and aging. I want to be with someone who understands that feeling inherently, not someone who hasn’t a clue of what I mean when I say “I’m getting old”.

I dunno. Lots of people are afraid of aging, but I’m here to tell everyone that while aging offers its unique challenges, it also awesome, because there’s this peacefulness about it. And I also realize that I don’t want to do it alone. I wanna be with someone whom I can care for and love unconditionally and wake up every morning and look into their beautiful, brown, wrinkled eyes and know I’m “home”.

Does any of this make sense? I just don’t see that happening with some 30 year old dude.

Ooops! I meant to say “I’m not saying that I’d only date men who are 57 and older...”

I am outraged!

R105, you trolling tramp.

Every janitor I've spoken to - and I make it a point to talk to service people in office and public buildings, because they know things - has said that women's toilets are the worst. The blood and shit, the trash on the floor and the stinking gobs of clots completely override men and their boogers on urinals walls and exuberant splashings.

Women are all the more disgusting because while they're fouling public property they're acting as if all of humanity is conspiring to give them crabs. As they shit on the toilet-seat covers they squat over. They will stand in their shoes on a toilet seat to keep some imaginary holyhole unaffected by proximity to a plastic seat they've wiped down for 10 minutes with sani-wipes from their snack purses.

"Every janitor I've spoken to - and I make it a point to talk to service people in office and public buildings"

Odd, very odd. That means you're there at 5AM when they're working.

I believe there is medication for your affliction, R126.

I work at a place with mostly men. When we remodeled, the women had to share the men's bathroom for a few days. I don't even want to describe how disgusting it room was. Except that I genuinely worried for their bowel health, because quite a few of them seemed to have violent and uncontrollable explosive diarrhea, barely making it to the toilet. And we have the whole place cleaned twice a week.

Straight men don't eat raw vegetables or fruit. Only manly food like meat and beer.

Being a woman who has used the men’s room in a few emergencies, I can tell you right now that women’s bathrooms in places like LA and NYC, are very clean. Once I moved to GA, I noticed that the women here are very careless about their hygiene and personal environments, like restroom stalls, and because most women here are obese, they shit their brains out and clog individual toilets. They truly DNGAF what they put into their bodies, including strange dick.

Here’s another thing I’ve noticed out here: younger men are always scratching their balls or dicks. They do it as if no one’s watching! It’s gross. I remember seeing that and then noticing it over and over again, and I made up my mind then and there to never get intimate with any man out here.

It’s just gross. Everyone cheats on everyone and share lovers, boyfriends, etc. I have NEVER had an STI, and I’m not willing to get one now, either.

I’ve always been picky, though I’ve definitely made genuine errors in judgement, but the south is no place to get “experimental” in.

And these are “straight” men, and I use the quotes, because tons of dudes out here are closeted and honestly, they’ll fuck anything that moves.

Back to LA and NY. It depends on where you are. Dodger Stadium and Venice beach are gonna have gross bathrooms for men and women, as will Madison Square Garden. However, office buildings? Nope. The bathrooms are pristine.

I used to have to replenish the soap and towels in the men's and women's bathrooms in my office. Women went through three containers of soap, while them men's was hardly touched. Men don't like washing their hands for some reason. I assume they were all straight.

Yes, there was someone in my office who also observed that most (straight) guys ne er wash their hands after going to the toilet. Made me completely rethink that whole "handshake" thing.

The diarrhea thing may originate with Southern fat chicks taking laxatives to lose some of their bulk. Never heard of such a thing in NYC.

Most straight men don't wash their hands after urinating. A fact commonly observed even before CV19.

[R130] I have noticed that men from the rural south scratch at and also cradle their balls in public. They act like little boys that haven’t been taught to behave in public. So I was talking about this phenomenon at a party, and was told by good authority that it’s called “hustling your balls” and it’s a macho red neck thing to do. Are there any ball hustlers here on DL? Or is this too much a place of class and refinement for ball hustlers? I think it’s akin to picking your nose or your butt.

r135 It's to get you to notice their genitals. It's non-verbal behavior. It's cavemen displaying. It's purpose is subtle seduction (young straight guys think this way) It's akin to "Man Spreading" when they sit.

Frankly, all the scratching and tugging is probably Jock Itch from sweating, or micro abrasions from jerking off.

[R136] mmm...they do all that and then don’t wash their hands.

Men are hard wired to propagate, spread their seeds and genetically, younger women are better for this.

Women have come a long way, not being a slave to their place nature anymore. Men unfortunately haven't made that transition.

R130 Sounds real attractive where you currently live. Just wanted to give a shout out to you to say I would be as you and not willing to risk getting an STD from these ball scratching men. No shock that there is constant cheating considering this is Bible Belt country. It seems a pattern that the more "religious" folks claim they are the more bed hopping they do. Anyway it's a shame all the way around.

Aren't these creepy and crepey out-of-shape old dudes , usually with small dicks, ashamed to expose their gross revolting bodies to a young firm attractive female?

Honestly, just look at that POS Harvey Weinstein, he literally looks like a deformed weasel. He also looks like he reeks. Do these delusional men think attractive women find them "hot"? It's absolutely pathetic. Please don't start name calling either, I'm not a "dyke" or jealous. I have my own money, I don't need to fuck some wrinkly old fart to 'secure the bag'. I'm a gay man, I think these old men and young women combos are revolting.

Deep down, these delusional old men surely know these women are only with them because they're rich and famous. If they want to be with younger women, they should hire escorts.

Delusion, it's a helluva drug!

I wonder how much of this has to do with giving the finger to his ex Jolie. I bet A LOT!

R140, I agree with you about Weinstein. And yet, he was married to one of the most beautiful women.

These young tramps throw themselves at old rich men and the old rich men fall for it because it makes them feel young and virile again. I call it the "old fool syndrome".

R130, that's so true about the South, that most people there are not very choosy about who they fuck. A relative's horrible ex-husband moved down there from New Jersey. Not sure what he does for a living, the guy could never keep a job, the last job he had, was repairing air conditioning systems. I do know he was thrown out of the military.

In less than a year of living down South, this guy found some desperate woman to marry him. She's not attractive and she's overweight. He's a loser, he cannot be too particular about who he dates or marries. This guy was in jail for about eight years, think it was for drug dealing and a host of other low-rent nonsense. Yet, none of this mattered to his new wife. Some people are so desperate.

I heard he married this Southern woman because she owned a nice house!

I just had a vision of Jon Meacham hustling his balls...ewww.

Typical male-female conversation. The most innocuous things become dirty and offensive in a hetero context.

"So, we both have nougat!"

"'Nougat'?.....oh, you are DISGUSTING!"

I remember an interview with Seth Meyers...I think it was on Marc Maron’s podcast... where he was talking about how much younger than him his wife was, and he made a joke like “Believe me, I could have gone younger.”

It proves just how many men would happily fuck a 13 or 14 year old if it was culturally accepted.

Men really are fucking gross and depraved half the time.

R144 It’s not just the south - it’s the Midwest too. You would be surprised how many women here would rather have a worthless man than no man at all. I know one woman who is supporting a “man” who doesn’t work, has been arrested for drugs on a few different occasions, has had restraining orders against him for stalking and harassing past girlfriends, drinks and smokes weed all day, and cheats on top of that. I’m sadly not joking when I say she doesn’t care. This is why I don’t feel sorry for straight women most of the time because they agree to this shit.

They agree because in more patriarchal places people see women as incomplete and pitiful if they're not attached to a guy. The constant harassment and questioning why? When? What's wrong with you? - result in situations like the one in R149.

[R150] Ha, no. Patriarchy has nothing to do with it. These are a bunch of horndoggy hos that’ll do anything for prime grade A dick marinated in Bud Lite and tobacco juice. We’ve all been there.

The women in the south just do not give a shit, trust me.

I was genuinely shocked when I moved here and started to get to know people, and started to see the shit women out here put up with in order to get laid. People love to talk shit about how women in LA are whores, but I’ve never seen anything like women in the south.

These chicks will fuck ANYTHING. I mean, ANYTHING. I’ve had guys hit on me out here who don’t stand a chance at all whatsoever with me, yet they think they do because they assume I’m southern. As soon as they hear me talk, they “suddenly” back off because they’re hip enough to know that I’m not buying what they’re selling.

The women out here are constantly running to the doctor’s office because their BF or husband infected them with something. One girl I know had an affair with some guy for 4 years. He finally left his wife and moved in with her, only to cheat on her with this lady trucker that people call “Road Dog”. She showed me a Facebook photo of the women, and she looks like the ugliest dyke whoever dyked.

My friend told me she won’t leave him because him cheating on her was “karma” because she took him away from his wife. I’m mature enough to understand that when it comes to sexual and emotional self esteem, there’s not much anyone can say to a woman to encourage her to recognize her value as a human being, and to refuse to be treated like dirt. When she told me that I made a quick comment about how that’s not actually the case, and that the case actually is that the guy’s a good for nothing cheater who will always cheat, regardless of his partner. But then I abandoned all efforts to sway her immediately, because every woman Ive met who allows this, rarely ever changes, and always puts a man before themselves.

I understand not wanting to be lonely, but one must draw the line somewhere.

My girlfriends in LA were always amazed about how I could walk away from a relationship if necessary. They always told me I’d end up alone because I’m so picky, and at one point, I started to believe that BS, and allowed myself to be disrespected by a total LOSER.

Never again. I learned my lesson. This is why I completely believe that BP had his equal share of bullshit that he brought to his partnership with AJ. I cannot claim to know the premise of their relationship, but I do believe that he started treating her poorly, and I also believe that she has issues that she brought with her.

Personally, I’d never hook up with a married guy, because his honesty is in question immediately, so why do it? Women who have fucked up self esteem do it, and they’re no different from me: if you hook up with a cheater, he’s gonna cheat or treat you poorly, eventually, 9 times out of 10.

Men can be disgusting, but women also coddle creeps and need to take responsibility for doing so.

Men say that they want the young ones because they're 'fertile', but then after the chick gets knocked up, they dump her because her pussy is no longer tight enough.

To put it crudely, but yes, that's the mentality.

That’s not the case any longer, R153. A doctor can zap one’s nether-regions to virginal, in minutes with a laser. Women who have had this procedure say it’s highly effective.

I think that what happens with some men, is that they start recognizing their own mortality when they become fathers, coupled with the fact that infants need attention 24/7, making them a non-priority to their wives.

After a few kids, sexual boredom starts setting in, and both men and women start looking elsewhere. For the guys, it’s usually just physical, but when women start cheating, it’s usually emotional and the end of a marriage.

That’s why I’ve never fully understood open marriages. It’s like a couple who engages in this is just asking for a divorce.

I don’t understand why this girl’s husband is OK with his wife and mother of his child, getting together with Pitt. And I cannot understand why Pitt went public with this. The girl’s reputation is going to be trashed here in the states, just like Jolie’s.

If Brad is straight, or bi, it appears that he likes to indulge himself in drama and unnecessary bullshit.

Also, if you love someone, why would you want to fuck another man? Maybe I’m weird, but when I fall in love, I don’t fuck around. The last thing I would want is to hook up with another guy, while my husband’s at his restaurant, running “things”.

I call bullshit on the entire story.

R154 and others; your understanding of relationships are full of tropes, stereotypes and romance novel fodder. It doesn't seem that any of you understand the logistics of relationships, what makes them work, or in this event--why some are bound to fail miserably.

The only thing that an old fogey and an opportunistic Instagram dunderhead have in common is their collective lack of substance. They are united by their void. One void must be filled by girls younger than his daughter and the other, hers, can only be filled with cash. You know damn well the girl is not in it for the sex. If anything, she probably doesn't want to be seen with him in public. She doesn't want her friends, family and followers knowing she stays bankrolled by sucking father time's dusty old dick.

The more desperate and vulnerable the woman is, the more the man benefits from the situation. For instance, if she must choose between relying on her looks to stay with her free meal ticket in the U.S., or be deported back to Bratislava where she'll have to become a sex worker to make ends, it'll seem like she cherishes her elder boyfriend even if she's a kept woman and they don't speak the same language.

He is sexually unappealing and once her beauty fades, she has no future. That's usually the catch in these relationships.

[quote]I remember an interview with Seth Meyers...I think it was on Marc Maron’s podcast... where he was talking about how much younger than him his wife was, and he made a joke like “Believe me, I could have gone younger.” It proves just how many men would happily fuck a 13 or 14 year old if it was culturally accepted.

Seth's wife is 9 years younger, that's not an extreme age difference. How ridiculous. Most of these old fart creeper actors are with much younger women, 20-25+ years younger. Now that's an extreme age difference. Plus, she's not some younger bimbo bubblehead, she's a human rights lawyer and an Assistant District Attorney in Brooklyn.

R155, you paint a dire and hopeless picture, and while I understand precisely what you’ve explained, I’m just not there yet. And I don’t know that I want to become so cynical, frankly.

I know I’m sort of a “goober”, R155, but I still believe in true love.

I don’t believe that “forever” is possible for most. I don’t believe in fairytales or perfect marriages, but I believe in sincerely and authentically wanting the best for my beloved, whomever he may be. I believe in being honest, and not taking advantage of someone, or fucking them over.

I believe in genuine trust within a partnership. What’s the fucking point of even doing it if these things aren’t on offer?

I’m kinda a romantic, even though I realize that most men are absolute assholes, especially in “town” (LA).

I dunno. I’d rather be alone than to become highly cynical or to be in a pragmatic yet loveless “arrangement”, where I’m being used as someone’s ornament because I look good, all the while knowing that the clock is ticking, for both of us and for that time has approximate yet very distinct outcomes for us both.

What is the point of all of this bullshit, when it’s inauthentic?

That’s why I stay single. Everyone’s playing a game that has rules I refuse to follow. It’s confusing because while I’m really progressive and open minded, I have traditional values when it comes to relationships.

Hey, I’m not in the entertainment biz and have never even wanted a sliver of it for myself, so perhaps that’s what has me out of alignment with my peers. I really don’t think ANYTHING is worth wanting so much as to live a scripted life behind the scenes.

In the end, family is what really matters. And I missed out on that too, because I have nothing close to normal there, either.

Maybe that’s why I’m a dreamer. I’d actually cherish what a lot of people either take for granted, or see as a burden. Not saying that’s the case with this couple, bu the way, just to be clear.

R157: I could have written that too. I really understand where you're coming from. I've kinda lost hope though. People have become so aggressive and hard. Warm companionship seems completely impossible in this world.

[Quote] And yet, he was married to one of the most beautiful women.

🤣🤣🤣

It goes with the A list territory. Just look at how everyone was bagging at Keanu for having an age appropriate companion (I won't say 'girlfriend' as we all know that's BS).

Unless they want to appear "kind" by sticking by an old or overweight wife, no A lister will be around anybody who doesn't reflect how they want to be seen themselves: young and hot.

R140 and R142 Regarding men with old, wrinkly, saggy, fat and pock-marked from head to toe bodies (like Harvey W.) being embarrassed to be naked in front of nubile young women. They get off on it, it's part of the power trip IMO. Remember the countless stories of Harvey wanting women to watch him shower and/or masturbate? He knows how disgusting he is/looks but had the power to make women do what he wanted anyway. All the more to degrade you with, my dear.

R26, that woman may have an older look to her, but she is still 9-10 years younger than Keanu. Seems ironic you're calling her an old woman.

Good call R162. I was thinking the exact same thing.

I'm sure all of that is true, R152.

[quote]Personally, I’d never hook up with a married guy, because his honesty is in question immediately, so why do it? Women who have fucked up self esteem do it

Yes. It still means he finds me way hotter than whatever bitch he's married to.

[R165] Sounds like my mother! She’s even competitive with the daughters of the men she’s sleeping with.

A lot of women that've done it with married guys don't know it until it's too late. I haven't gotten involved with married men intentionally, but it still wound up happening even without prior knowledge or intent.

My track record:

1 guy was estranged from his bisexual(I strongly suspected lesbian, so did he)and physically abusive wife. She wasn't sure she wanted a divorce yet due to financial reasons but they fought about it constantly. Eventually they divorced. He's one of my soulmates and we still talk. She wasn't mad that he and I hooked up because she had plenty of side chicks herself. No harm done, really.

Another married guy had me steered to fuck him. His sister was the one steering. He was married to a coprophile lesbian that was turned on by poopy feet, but not really interested in him. He wore physical magic and youthful veneers to make himself seem way more attractive than he really is. When I took off his physical embellishments, he was 4 foot 5, not 6 foot 1, wore a full blonde wig and had the fattest, lumpiest and shortest stump legs I had ever seen. Before you start feeling sorry for him, he shares his wife's poop fetish in addition to golden showers, engages in incest, is attracted to babies and children and fists animals for sexual gratification. He is bisexual and doesn't have any bars that prevent most people from fucking rotting corpses, their aunt, or the tailpipe of a car. Some of you probably know this narcissistic piece of trash. He's been stalking me for years, despite that he couldn't get me to do anything sexual with him unless I was steered by an idiot.

The last guy married young, got separated from his wife and was in the process of a divorce at the time we were involved. They did not end up getting back together. No regrets.

I truly wish I could un-read R167. You could have at least warned us.

r167 How high ARE you, right now? WTF? "Poopy feet"?

R169, you can't make this shit up.

Yes, poop feet. Gillian described it as her "fusion-fetish" because she's a coprophile that also has a foot fetish and enjoys even more when the two are combined.

Puke.

[R167] That person should be in jail. I hope you made that up.

I blocked 167. Not interested in anything else she/he has to say ever.

When I first discovered Chaturbate I was watching this tweeked out redneck babble non-stop, while running to the window, in and out of the room, back to his chair-- clearly high on meth. He was good looking, and his behavior was fascinating because I'd never seen someone behave like him. I was appalled as he talked about how he regularly has sex with his adult brother, and they both grew up having sex with their mother and each other!!! The final straw, for me, was when he stated that he was getting ready to start sexualizing his son, who he felt was the perfect age, being age 6!!! Fortunately, he was reported, and his room was banned, but that probably didn't stop him with following through with the sexual abuse. Disgusting and sad.

R172, it's not because my comment was too outrageous or that it offended your delicate sensibilities. It's because you have one or more of those disgusting, horrid fetishes described.

You actually managed to fool two people, though, that being the two who gave you W&W votes. LMAO.

What in the ever loving fuck are you people doing here and sharing this shit? Why not call the authorities?

And who else thinks this is being done purposefully?

Take your beef elsewhere, ya sick fucks. Tell it to the therapist or the judge.

R171, this guy is *constantly* in and out of prison for things like stealing, sexual assault, physical battery, stalking and trespassing on private property to molest people's pets.

R175, don't assume that I haven't reported him to the authorities. No need to fan yourself for dramatic effect.

[R176] Where?! Is this someplace like West Virginia?

Don't feed the troll and don't buy into his bullshit.

R177, no fanning over here, trust. I’ve heard shit you wouldn’t believe, so I totally believe every word you wrote. People are sick fucks, no question.

So why didn’t this asshole get locked up for a long stay? Where did this shit happen? Because America, while filled with goat fuckers, don’t tolerate goat fuckers when goat fuckers decide the goat’s no longer as interesting as their own children.

R178, the DC metropolitan area. He and his wife aren't hicks, they're actually entitled unemployed adult-babies that use bank loans and credit to pose as suburban aristocrats to impress their betters. He tells almost everybody he meets that he's a multi-billionaire when he and his wife have no family inheritance or trust funds and certainly no jobs, ever. They're low-functioning, infantile schizophrenics.

Creditors hate this guy and his sadistic troll of a wife. They ruin property with their smelly fetishes, too. Paint peeling off the walls, doodoo on the floor, roof caving in; homes purchased on credit that go from luxury dwellings to condemned, squalid biohazards.

If Seth's wife is only 9 years younger then I agree that is of really no significance. I think a ten year age difference isn't anything outrageous. It sounds like she is a woman who is very capable of surviving on her own with an interesting career.

It's not the age difference, it's the age of the younger partner that is the issue for me. An 18 year old dating a 38 year old is more concerning to me than 28 year old dating 48 year old. A woman of 28 is much more worldly and less likely to be manipulated by an older man. (Same if the genders are reversed or same sex).

I saw Calvin Klein with a young hot dark haired BUILT stud at the Grove; they both had identical shopping bags and were enjoying a nice day out together.

the younger guy looked like a caring grandson or nephew and had his arm around him at times in almost or a protective way; maybe his arm wasn't around him but that's what I remember.

What if that's all it is? And what if it's not? Who's business is it anyway if both people are doing what they want for whatever reason.

I wonder if the little boy is Brad’s.

I remember reading on DL, several years back, that Brad and Angie were forever done when she found out he fathered a child with a model, whom he took care of, in France.

Allegedly she was very young and she was allegedly, also black.

He’s probably been with this girl forever, and she’s probably his favorite “escort” or something, who also happened to have his kid.

I can see him knocking her up accidentally and getting her over to the old German dude in order to get her married and squared away, whilst hiding her and his illegitimate child’s existence that he fathered out of wedlock while in a committed relationship with Jolie.

These people are all so scandalous and messy, nothing would surprise me.

Lol!

In defense of Brad Pitt, I think he just floated a "relationship" with this woman to mess with Jolie who is once again trying to drag out their divorce proceedings. People at that level know how to keep things undercover so that fact that this woman hit the gossip sites described as the "younger version of Angelina" was probably a very pointed barb at his bat-shit insane wife and her glass-thin ego. Apparently the model was shipped back within a couple of days so this was probably all just a PR arrangement. Not saying he doesn't hang out with 20-yr-olds - just saying this story is these two swatting at each other in the press.

Eh, who knows? It’s fun to “escape” with the gossip and the fodder, but the truth is that people who hit a certain level of fame, live very lonely lives and oftentimes just say “fuck it”, and pay for sex and/or company.

The truth is likely somewhere in the middle. Brad probably did love his ex-wife and she probably loved him. They went for it and attempted to create a world for themselves with kids and meaning, but shit went south.

The problem I could see arising is that Angie May have eventually started to take herself way too seriously with her UN work, and Brad’s probably a go with the flow dude.

Angelina is freakin gorgeous and I believe her to be very ambitious as well as smart. They were going on different directions and that’s why they split.

He strikes me as a person who wants to have fun a joke around with his pals and she strikes me as a person that wanted to make him happy, but eventually it became about just making her happy, and he bounced... away with escorts and models for actual company and some drunk shagging.

These two are evil. They’re only human and signed up for a gig they couldn’t handle, despite their hopes and best intentions.

I’m not sure what Angelina wants from this divorce, but I suspect it’s financial, which is understandable because they were together longer than most married couples and had six kids together. Obviously, he doesn’t agree with whatever it is that she’s demanding, and is basically telling her to get fucked.

The losers here are the kids. Coming from a household where similar shit went on, I can tell you right now that I sincerely wish my mother hadn’t poisoned my little kid brain with bullshit about my father.

My father was a drunken mess who fucked up royally, but I remember him as a man who ADORED me when I was a kid, and did his best to be there for me financially and always met his obligations to me, in that respect.

Unfortunately, my mom was also a very pretty gal, who felt that her ass needed to be worshiped just for that alone. She treated my father like shit, drove him away, and made my life hell, as a result.

I’m obviously projecting, but I can see this scenario playing out here.

* aren’t evil 👆🏽

R187 I totally agree it's the kids who suffer. As I recall Brad admitted to having alcohol issues while married to Jolie. I think there was some sort of altercation on a plane between Jolie's oldest son, Maddax, and Pitt which is what led to the end of the marriage. I don't even know if Brad sees any of his kids both biological and adopted since the divorce.

I posted earlier that this constant changing partners looking for someone new and younger than the last is part of why there are so many broken homes and messed up kids. Look at Michael Douglas' son from his first marriage and Farrah Fawcett's son Redmond who are both in jail. There is a lot to be said for providing a stable home life for kids.

Douglas' son finally got released from prison after Michael heavily lobbied the Justice Department for years. Michael also slaughtered the reputation of his first wife and Cameron's mother, Diandra, by introducing multiple negative character references about her negligence and lack of parenting skills.

R190 What Douglas claims about his first wife's lack of parenting skills may be true, but it doesn't excuse him for his own negligence. He admitted he had affairs while married so that's not great parenting either. He should have been home with his son if he felt Diandra wasn't up to the task of care taking. People who don't intend to put their children's welfare first should not have them in the first place. It's what I did and am glad I made that decision. I didn't think I'd be a great parent so I didn't have kids.

[R181] Oh no! I live in the DC area too. I don’t think I know them. ( insert Mariah meme) We have a rental house in Arlington and all the tenants have been nice and neat, no pooping or bestiality thank God!

Hopefully you'll be safe in that region, r192. Last I heard, they're busy destroying a charming two-story home in Burke, Virginia.

Always keep in mind what you’re touching when you touch the faucet to wash your hands in the restroom, especially in the men’s room......

I can't imagine having financial perks that Cameron Douglas had and landing in jail.

Dear God, why didn't he just let Bert Bauer and Viki Buchanan raise him like the rest of us did?

They're good for nothin'.