GDP shrinks over 30%. Trump immediately wants to delay election.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||21 hours ago|
Sorry. Link to story
|by Anonymous||reply 1||Last Thursday at 4:57 AM|
BULLSHIT. Nothing about Trump. No need to make up lies about the spawn of Satan. He is the King of Liars and will "outlie" any opponent.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||Last Thursday at 5:01 AM|
Trump will be unsuccessful in delaying the election. From the NYT: Even the president himself does not have the authority to unilaterally postpone Election Day, which by law takes place the Tuesday after the first Monday in November.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||Last Thursday at 5:01 AM|
Continue to reduce spending. Until after Election Day.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||Last Thursday at 5:02 AM|
1.4 million new unemployment claims this week. Reduced spending should be a breeze.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||Last Thursday at 5:04 AM|
Lol the media were saying -10% yesterday. Stupid Cheeto fucks at CNBC.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||Last Thursday at 5:04 AM|
It's unfortunately true, R2. BBC just now went live with this:
|by Anonymous||reply 7||Last Thursday at 5:05 AM|
It's based on this tweet:
|by Anonymous||reply 8||Last Thursday at 5:06 AM|
AND SO FAR AT 8 A.M. CENTRAL TIME THURSDAY JULY 30... NOT A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THIS ON "FOX AND FRIENDS"...
it's the usual Portland and other protests, and how they are ALL violent...later today evil idiot devos will be interviewed on faux news..
|by Anonymous||reply 9||Last Thursday at 5:08 AM|
Goddamit! I read that as GOP shrinks over 30% and thought miracles really do happen!
|by Anonymous||reply 10||Last Thursday at 5:08 AM|
Trump has no idea of the mechanics of the U.S.government.
He is too stoopid to be king
|by Anonymous||reply 11||Last Thursday at 5:09 AM|
But, but, but, the virus is a hoax.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||Last Thursday at 5:10 AM|
He sent that out right when the horrible economic news hit. He is trying to distract. He is always trying to distract.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||Last Thursday at 5:14 AM|
Joe Biden was right again. This fucking mook is trying to cancel the election and it ain’t even August. It might be 25th Amendment time.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||Last Thursday at 5:15 AM|
R3, I have been having this argument for months. OF COURSE, he doesn't have the authority.
BUT IF HE SAYS IT, it makes it TRUE, for his minions. Republicans control the majority of the states. Just saying it is enough to cause chaos, which is the goal.
They will follow his lead and NOT take action, "The president says the election is delayed, so I didn't send the ballots out" OR take action to sabotage an election,they are poised to lose.
Republicans will not be punished for obeying Trump, they will get bonus checks.
THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO STAY IN POWER.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||Last Thursday at 5:16 AM|
Barr will day it’s ok to “delay” the election. Then the Supreme Court wil say it’s ok.
Millions need to come to DC and protest for Cheeto’s removal.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||Last Thursday at 5:16 AM|
Biden in late April predicted Trump may try and push back the election, a suggestion the president's campaign dismissed at the time as "the incoherent, conspiracy theory ramblings of a lost candidate who is out of touch with reality."
“Mark my words: I think he is gonna try to kick back the election somehow, come up with some rationale why it can’t be held,” Biden told supporters, adding that he felt it was "the only way [Trump] thinks he can possibly win.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||Last Thursday at 5:22 AM|
I've been saying since 2016 that they wouldn't allow the election to take place this year, and everyone thought I was a hysterical MARY.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||Last Thursday at 5:23 AM|
^Me too. He has said it from day one.
Also. His retweet from Cowboys for Trump= " The only good democrat is a dead democrat". He wants us dead. This was a 1 day story, before the Floyd protests broke out. Of course, no republicans, saw the tweet.
He wants us dead, he is trying to kill us. He gets his marching orders from Putin.
More Cowboys for Trump from today:
I'm an idiot, and I know this much is true.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||Last Thursday at 5:29 AM|
Let’s remember that Trump can’t delay the election himself. He would need the entire government behind him, as well as state governments. He may realize this and is only bringing it up as a shiny object to distract the media from focusing on these horrible economic numbers, as some posters earlier suggested. He’s also panicked because Democrats are the only ones really embracing vote by mail while Republicans are eschewing it, and his people might have brought this to his attention recently.
So let’s not lose sight of things here. There will be an election on November 3rd for all intents and purposes, and Joe Biden will win if we go out and vote for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||Last Thursday at 5:29 AM|
pretty much, he knows a bad economy will bring him down.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||Last Thursday at 5:32 AM|
[bold] HOMOSEXUALS: [/bold]
What short memories you all have.
He was doing the same thing in 2016, claiming fraud and deception. Even after he won, he claimed that Hillary had somehow gotten millions of "illegal votes" [SEE LINK]
|by Anonymous||reply 22||Last Thursday at 5:32 AM|
This makes Barr's response to the mail in ballot questions more relevant.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||Last Thursday at 5:33 AM|
[quote]Let’s remember that Trump can’t delay the election himself. He would need the entire government behind him, as well as state governments.
Theoretically, some red state election commissioners could refuse to allow their electors to meet and cast their votes, which would cause chaos.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||Last Thursday at 5:33 AM|
Also remember that in terms of the election optics, in terms of winning the day as a candidate, this looks very bad for Donald Trump. Only a loser would whine about delaying the election. Trump wants to delay it and Joe Biden will be out there saying let’s vote, the sooner the better. It makes Trump look weak, and that’s ON TOP of these terrible economic numbers. So beyond the short term panic of today, this is great news for Joe Biden and will enhance his perception as the winning candidate who has his opponent on the ropes.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Thursday at 5:34 AM|
[quote] Let’s remember that Trump can’t delay the election himself.
Exactly! He couldn't even get close to building his stupid fucking wall in four years! He's just trying to cast doubt about the election results -- his loss -- because he sees the writing on the wall.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||Last Thursday at 5:34 AM|
He is setting it up in case he loses. He will sue claiming voter fraud, and eventually say he lost becaues of the covid and voter fraud. Calling biden a fake president for 8 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Thursday at 5:35 AM|
Seriously-- do you all not remember him claiming he might not abide by the results in 2016 and claiming fraud even after the election was over?
This is just his schtick
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Thursday at 5:36 AM|
R6, they were pretty much correct, if a bit pessimistic. 32% is the annualized number, for the quarter the GDP contraction was 9.5%, roughly.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Thursday at 5:36 AM|
WILL SOMEONE FUCKING SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD ALREADY?
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Thursday at 5:38 AM|
We appear to be headed towards chaos. They floated the "No such thing as separation of church and state" yesterday. He is going to incite his base to riot. It is all he has left.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Thursday at 5:39 AM|
Barr can’t do anything to delay the election. It is written clearly in the constitution that congress controls when the election takes place. It could not be anymore clear. There are no loopholes. If it goes to the Supreme Court Trump will lose. This is just part of Trump’s schtick.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Thursday at 5:39 AM|
R22, stop posting the same thing in multiple threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Thursday at 5:39 AM|
He said it in this thread also
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Thursday at 5:40 AM|
Name Calling is his schtick. This is strategic. Don't minimize it. We're in serious trouble.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Thursday at 5:41 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Thursday at 5:41 AM|
Wouldn't he still have to step down in January and let Pelosi take over until there COULD be an election?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Thursday at 5:45 AM|
Maybe this is what he was talking about with Putty.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Thursday at 5:45 AM|
He is such a disgrace. For the love of God someone drag this traitor out by his ankles
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Thursday at 5:47 AM|
[quote]Wouldn't he still have to step down in January and let Pelosi take over until there COULD be an election?
She should come out today with a statement:
"The president can't do anything to delay the election. But even if he could, I would become the president of the United States on January 20, 2021, until a proper election could be held."
That would have the deplorables shaking in their boots and end talk of a delay.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Thursday at 5:49 AM|
You won't delay an election. Get real, they had an election DURING THE CIVIL WAR.
If they can vote during that, they can vote during this. Just wear a mask and hold a protest sign and you're immune.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Thursday at 5:50 AM|
Did the southern states get to vote in that election?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Thursday at 5:54 AM|
Deplorables will say she's lying, R40. The media will write four thousand "Is Pelosi lying? An investigation" thinkpieces and CNN will have at least a dozen panels on it.
Let's hope she doesn't say anything until this gets serious, which right now it is very much NOT.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Last Thursday at 5:55 AM|
R40, It would go to the Supreme Court. Democracy will die with RGB.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Last Thursday at 5:58 AM|
That will hopefully be a part of Joe Biden’s response, R41. He needs to be out there forcefully condemning the latest rantings of our lunatic President and he should point out that we had an election during the Civil friggin War. I want people to see the contrast between them for days on end: Trump who wants to delay the election because he’s a loser, and Joe Biden who wants to uphold our democratic standards and vote because he’s winning.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Last Thursday at 5:59 AM|
R41 lol it's not about whether a vote can happen. It's about who the president is. Lincoln v. Trump: different planets.
It's like pointing out hypocrisy or citing precedent: neither matter to people determined to seize/retain power. Keep pointing it out. Keep mocking from home. Keep parroting the media's dismissals. Meanwhile they have the guns on November 3.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||Last Thursday at 6:01 AM|
If RGB dies before the election, the Senate will approve **Barr's** selection within weeks.
6-3 GOP court. Guess what happens after that. Even with Roberts not voting with the cult.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Last Thursday at 6:02 AM|
The Lincoln Project knows this is a gift to Team Biden
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Last Thursday at 6:03 AM|
[quote]Meanwhile they have the guns on November 3.
Yeah, you're a troll, and not even a very good one.
No one is running around like a chicken with their head cut off just because you have posted 27 times that "the GOP will come after us with guns on Election Day." You can stop wasting everyone's time now.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Thursday at 6:04 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 50||Last Thursday at 6:04 AM|
Lincoln did not delay elections during the Civil War.
FDR did not delay elections during World War II.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||Last Thursday at 6:04 AM|
The president knows he can’t win from a free and fair election. Because the GDP is tanking, coronavirus is out of control, and Americans are pissed.
His only options? Delay, defraud, distract.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||Last Thursday at 6:05 AM|
Republicans in office, if you can’t stand up to this president now, why are you even in office?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||Last Thursday at 6:06 AM|
The guy claiming he's a lawyer who knows the Army will be out shooting people on Election Day is talking about "Americans" on the other "Cheeto: Delay the Election" thread as though he isn't one.
Very weird for someone who has posted about 100 times each in a whole slew of political threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||Last Thursday at 6:07 AM|
R54, yeah -- sounds like a fear tactic from trolls to keep people from going out and voting. Good catch.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||Last Thursday at 6:08 AM|
R54, you're a baby.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||Last Thursday at 6:10 AM|
Trump is in an odd, hypocritical position of saying that everything is normal, kids should go back to school, workers should return to their jobs, but there's such chaos, the election has to be postponed.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||Last Thursday at 6:15 AM|
SHOOT THE BASTARD
|by Anonymous||reply 58||Last Thursday at 6:16 AM|
Politico, which is somewhere between center and right:
"President Donald Trump suggested Thursday that November’s general election should be postponed due to the coronavirus pandemic and his [bold] unsubstantiated assertions [/bold] of widespread mail-in voter fraud."
The media is not getting fooled and neither are the people.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||Last Thursday at 6:17 AM|
"Ignore this. Nothing to worry about. It's a smokescreen. The economy is the big story. Alarmists talk about a coup are actually just Boris."
Hmm. THAT sounds like Boris, actually. Which side is urging vigilance? Which side is dismissing alarm as silly?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||Last Thursday at 6:27 AM|
WE ARE ALL BORIS!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 61||Last Thursday at 6:42 AM|
Now that Herman Cain died of COVID after attending a Trump rally, the "delay the election" story goes on the back burner
Fun while it lasted.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||Last Thursday at 6:43 AM|
Too bad Trump couldn't delay Herman Cain's death with the God-like powers some attribute to him, lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||Last Thursday at 6:46 AM|
[quote] (Pelosi) should come out today with a statement: "The president can't do anything to delay the election. But even if he could, I would become the president of the United States on January 20, 2021, until a proper election could be held."
Not a good idea. She would immediately become the story, instead of leaving it where it belongs, on Crazy Donald tRump.
Second, her becoming president is not the first option under the Constitution. She would assume the office only if a number of events fell into place. R24 alludes to what could be the nightmare scenario: red state election officials and legislators refusing to certify the election results because of “fraud,” and thus refusing to allow their presidential electors to vote when the Electoral College members cast ballots — in an attempt to throw the election to the Congress, where states are each accorded one vote. Unless things change dramatically on November 3, the Repukes would have the slightest edge. This article from the Atlantic goes into great detail about how Cheatolini, with the aid of Repukes in the states, can attempt to steal the election.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||Last Thursday at 6:48 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 65||Last Thursday at 6:52 AM|
Everybody overseas seems to be giving this prominent coverage but American media seems to have noted it, but largely shrugged. He can't do it. It's for Congress to do. That's not going to happen.
In addition to the date of the election, there's a date when the term ends. So presumably if there is no President and President at noon on the first day of the new term, it's President Pelosi.
I think this is just a distraction stunt with a probable goal of giving him cover in private life: I was robbed... the people who are actually going to believe him were always going to believe him... everyone else knows he's a loser.
And that's the point: I think he's accepted it's likely he will lose, too. So he's trying to find a way to cover his ass and soothe his feelings. This foolishness is probably good news. Though it hit the markets, so he can be proud of that... he's a loser.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||Last Thursday at 7:42 AM|
Ellen Weintraub, FEC chair, would like a word
|by Anonymous||reply 67||Last Thursday at 7:49 AM|
Wow... awesome slap.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||Last Thursday at 8:12 AM|
[quote] American media seems to have noted it, but largely shrugged
Because as pointed out earlier in the thread, this is just a variation on his 2016 theme where he threatened not to accept the election results and claimed they were fraudulent even after he won
|by Anonymous||reply 69||Last Thursday at 8:15 AM|
Et tu, Fox?
Nothing on the website about the tweet except for this clip, where the analyst basically shakes his head in amazement at what a massive blunder this is for Trump
|by Anonymous||reply 70||Last Thursday at 8:33 AM|
Trump knew the historically awful GDP news was coming(He gets the numbers the night before), so he had this tweet ready to go to distract from the economic news. Just ignore it.
Haven't y'all learned by now that whenever there is bad news for Trump, he tweets something controversial to distract everyone?
|by Anonymous||reply 71||Last Thursday at 8:44 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 72||Last Thursday at 9:13 AM|
Oh I love it. Trump tries to delay the election, Red States don't hold the election, only Blue States vote, only Blue States send electors to the Electoral College. Biden wins.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||Last Thursday at 10:20 AM|
Even McConnell has come out against him.
Apparently there is a limit. I'm amazed he said anything. Even modestly.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||Last Thursday at 10:31 AM|
I think, for once, the distraction didn’t work.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||Last Thursday at 10:35 AM|
Putin recently had himself made president for life. Why wouldn't Trump take a shot at it?
|by Anonymous||reply 76||Last Thursday at 10:40 AM|
I'm sure the two events are completely unconnected and it is merely an extremely large coincidence!😁😉
|by Anonymous||reply 77||Last Thursday at 11:05 AM|
[quote] Putin recently had himself made president for life. Why wouldn't Trump take a shot at it?
Trump doesn't even enjoy being president for a day. He'd rather eat McDonalds at Mar-a-Lago and just tweet all day to his idiot base.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||Last Thursday at 11:14 AM|
Trump NEEDS the presidency to keep him out of jail. Once he's out of office he gets charged with all kinds of crimes. Plus it's a great grift where Parscale goes around and collects money (aka bribes) for the election campaign and then hands it over to Ivanka and Jared.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||Last Thursday at 2:22 PM|
[bold] This guy is the founder of the Federalist Society: [/bold]
I have voted Republican in every presidential election since 1980, including voting for Donald Trump in 2016. I wrote op-eds and a law review article protesting what I believe was an unconstitutional investigation by Robert Mueller. I also wrote an op-ed opposing President Trump’s impeachment.
But I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.
The nation has faced grave challenges before, just as it does today with the spread of the coronavirus. But it has never canceled or delayed a presidential election. Not in 1864, when President Abraham Lincoln was expected to lose and the South looked as if it might defeat the North. Not in 1932 in the depths of the Great Depression. Not in 1944 during World War II.
So we certainly should not even consider canceling this fall’s election because of the president’s concern about mail-in voting, which is likely to increase because of fears about Covid-19. It is up to each of the 50 states whether to allow universal mail-in voting and Article II of the Constitution explicitly gives the states total power over the selection of presidential electors.
Election Day was fixed by a federal law passed in 1845, and the Constitution itself in the 20th Amendment specifies that the newly elected Congress meet at noon on Jan. 3, 2021, and that the terms of the president and vice president end at noon on Jan. 20, 2021. If no newly elected president is available, the speaker of the House of Representatives becomes acting president.
President Trump needs to be told by every Republican in Congress that he cannot postpone the federal election. Doing so would be illegal, unconstitutional and without precedent in American history. Anyone who says otherwise should never be elected to Congress again.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||Last Thursday at 2:28 PM|
Well, holy fuck. Bad day for tweety. Although as noted upthread several times we're not talking as much about the smoking crater where his greatest economy ever used to be.
Well done, Kellyanne. I always attribute evil genius to Kellyanne. She'll probably the do anything to make the screaming stop.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||Last Thursday at 2:34 PM|
Can this be real?!?
|by Anonymous||reply 82||Last Thursday at 4:33 PM|
Sorry... bad link... this one... a Twitter feed of Trump dissing deplorables... you would think that would have been everywhere. Is it fake?
|by Anonymous||reply 83||Last Thursday at 4:34 PM|
Waaaay too witty to actually be dump
|by Anonymous||reply 84||Last Thursday at 4:39 PM|
Yeah I can’t imagine Trump has ever heard of The Hills Have Eyes
|by Anonymous||reply 85||Last Thursday at 4:43 PM|
Regarding r80's post. They have accomplished their mission by stacking the courts with Federalist judges. They know trump won't get a second term So only now do they see he is a fascist. Bullshit.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||Last Thursday at 4:46 PM|
Lesbian Friend -- the point of R80 is not to congratulate the man for bravely writing such a well thought out riposte, it's to show that Trump is losing his strongest supporters and they're being vocal about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||Last Thursday at 4:50 PM|
r87, yes thank you. I can see through their bullshit, as can you I'm sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||Last Thursday at 4:55 PM|
Someone just needs to tell Trump that if the election is postponed Nancy Pelosi becomes President, he would shit such a huge dump there isn't a diaper in the world big enough to hold it all.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||Last Thursday at 4:58 PM|
All good R88 - hopefully somewhere an on the fence Republican is thinking "If that Federalist Society guy can abandon Trump, then gosh darn it, I can too!"
|by Anonymous||reply 90||Last Thursday at 4:59 PM|
I agree with R30. Wholeheartedly.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||Last Thursday at 5:31 PM|
[quote]Which side is dismissing alarm as silly?
That's barely a sentence. Why do all the people "concerned about alarm" sound so odd?
|by Anonymous||reply 92||Last Thursday at 7:20 PM|
Funny. No, Trump can't postpone the election.
What's funny is that elections decide on the state of the nation and the performance of the incumbent. You can't wait till things turn around for you and hold the election then.
This is typical thinking of people who cheat at golf, the ones who always ask for a do over. 😂😂
|by Anonymous||reply 93||Last Thursday at 7:35 PM|
This is just another desperate distraction from not only the horrid GDP numbers but also Herman Cain dying from the plague after attending the "Tusla" rally without a mask.
I haven't heard anyone outside if DL even bring up his death OR talk about Obama's eulogy at John Lewis's funeral.
He can rage and bloviate all he wants. THE STATES control the elections. Not orange blobfish. Not bloated corpse Barr. Not ammosexuals. The states.
Even the rethug Ohio secretary of state wants mail in ballots. You think rethugs are going to want to sit home instead of trying to win that Alabama Senate seat? Or trying to save Joni Ernst's seat? Or "owning the libs" by voting for their cult leader? Please.
While this may come as a surprise, there are several rethugs in the Senate and elsewhere who ALSO want a shot a the big chair. You think they will just roll over and let that drooling fool install himself and his demons semen brats as dictators when it could be them?
As if. They'll eat their own. They always do.
Also bear in mind that a lot of states have early voting or are mailing ballots out starting mid September. That is what this is all about. He sees the writing on the wall and come labor day (about 35 days away), he will be living on borrowed time and HE KNOWS IT!
This reeks of desperation and distraction. Do not take the bait! Make a plan to vote early if it's available or by absentee if it's available. Make a plan to vote!
Once the early voting and absentee voting starts, he will be on borrowed time and will be even MORE DESPERATE. DO NOT believe a word out of his lie hole. Do not believe bloated Billy. Just vote. Eyes on the prize.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||Last Thursday at 8:35 PM|
Add in the horrible GDP numbers R94 -- that was this was originally meant to be a distraction for. Cain didn't die till later that day.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||Last Friday at 2:12 AM|
I read this as "GOP shrinks over 30%". The answer to my prayers!!
|by Anonymous||reply 96||Last Saturday at 12:45 PM|
The economic pain is going to sadly be way beyond what most people realise or conceptualize.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||a day ago|
Fed's Kashkari suggests 4-6 week shutdown; says U.S. Congress can spend big on coronavirus relief
|by Anonymous||reply 98||21 hours ago|
R97 I’ve noticed a weirdly calm, even celebratory atmosphere among my furloughed peers as doom approaches. In the old days they called this “whistling past the graveyard.”
|by Anonymous||reply 99||21 hours ago|