Cheeto: Delay the Election

Rick Wilson, in response:

Get your absentee ballot.

Do it today.

Vote the moment you can.

This has to be an electoral college wipeout, and it has to hurt.

He has to be crushed, humiliated, and driven from office, public life, and society.

Evil.

HOMOSEXUALS:

He will be unable to do that.

He will need Congress to postpone and the House will never consent.

He knows he is losing and is just flailing.

Associated Press (AP) just not having it

Idiot. Complete idiot.

REALITY:

Barr is drafting the memos. Emergency powers. Suspend election. Supreme Court: will they say OK? Congress cut out from the decision completely.

Fuck this shit.

Isn't tampering with an election a Federal crime?

Evil motherfucker. Evil motherfucking party.

Imagine how desperate the deteriorating despot must be to actually put this forward? The internal polls must show a bloodbath?

That is not happening R7

He's throwing shit up against the wall to see what sticks; watch, he'll back off this by saying he was "joking"

As we head towards election day, he'll be pulling stuff like that out of his ass on almost a daily basis. The next three months are going to be very long

It really does feel like, small step by small step, we're heading to the end of democracy.

Even if he could delay the election (he can’t) his term ends on January 20th at noon. If there’s no election then the speaker of the house will become president. To change any of that would require rewriting the constitution.

already a thread . and why

HOMOSEXUALS:

What short memories you all have.

He was doing the same thing in 2016, claiming fraud and deception. Even after he won, he claimed that Hillary someone has millions of "illegal votes" [SEE LINK]

I put NOTHING past him and his shitty cronies. McConnell probably told him to do it, and is already working the scam behind the scenes.

I think congress can actually override the President and the AG constitutionally. At any rate these people are very short-sighted. Eventually they will pay for this, one way or another. They must be defeated. I just wish Biden was a stronger, younger candidate.

His cult will show up with guns at voting sites "because this vote is illegitimate". Vote by mail, DLers. Vote as soon as you get the fucking ballot.

He loves doing shit like this. Gets everyone riled up. People start talking about the end of democracy. In a few hours he’ll walk this back. He’s just setting the stage for him to cry foul over the results and for the deplorables to back him up. The big money interests that control the GOP don’t want the chaos of American elections being canceled. Trump is a fraud.

It's a stupid tweet. We have the House. We're fine. He's just setting up a narrative in case he loses. That's all this is. It will be a talking point for the next news cycle and then it will be done. Don't panic.

You don't think Barr and his associates aren't trying to figure out a way to stop the election? You're fucking naive.

R22 what the fuck can they do? The power belongs to congress. The president can’t do shit. This is so distract from the disastrous GDP numbers just released.

"It's impossible. We have the House."

Nothing is impossible. The worst can indeed happen. I've lived a long time. I've seen it.

"DRAMA!!! I LOVE DRAMA!!! I don't care if it's a gay stereotype, just give me DRAMA!!!!"

He’s gonna try it.

He may succeed. You don’t think they have wet dreams about a coup?

R18, I do, too, but I'd vote for a rock if it was running against Trump. And if Kamala is Biden's VP and Pete is part of his administration, and hopefully Adam Schiff as AG, then we're in good hands.

The worst has happened only we didn't realize it can get even worse.

I am sorry I just started watching The Handmaid's Tale. Now I am terrified.

The man will try anything. He is a delusional psycho. I'd say it doesn't even matter if he truly tries it - he's put the idea out there, which is enough to fan the flames of his psycho followers who will go apeshit if/when he loses. He loves every second of this. He doesn't give a shit about the actual country - he's just a bored, psycho, racist rich dude who thinks this is all one big game.

You've seen a delayed election, R24? Come on now.

Everyone in the media: "He can't do it. It's impossible. Congress controls. It's impossible."

2016. He won. Anything is possible.

At the very least, Barr is going to issue a memo saying it's legal and within the executive's authority.

Remember this?

R23, Congress has the power? The executive has the guns and the DOJ.

Barr/DOJ: suspend the elections.

Executive: I must use the military to carry out justice, as the DOJ has issued its guidance. Elections delayed at the point of a gun.

A year from now he'll be executing Hillary and Obama on live TV and everybody will be wringing their hands and saying "I never thought he'd actually do it!"

Enough, R34.

We are nowhere NEAR Trump using the Armed Forces to overthrow the government. Cut it the fuck out.

From NYT

"2020 Election Live Updates: Trump Floats Whether to ‘Delay the Election,’ Something He Cannot Legally Do"

The only thing the people can do is vote and maybe show up in DC and protest in the millions.

"It's impossible."

That's what I thought.

You guys need to take a civics class. Barr has no leg to stand on. He will be laughed out of the courtroom. There were elections during the civil war. The power over the election belongs to congress. And even IF they delay it, it doesn’t mean the presidents term gets extended. His term ends on January 20th no matter what.

This is trump trying to sow chaos. Don’t let him.

R37, again, who cares what the media say. All of them are saying the same: impossible impossible impossible.

They don't have the military behind them. Commander-in-chief: the Supreme Court has extreme deference for executive control of the military.

R1 and R30 nailed it...

yes, the dems hold the house, but the repubs hold the senate, so technically couldn't the repubs override the dem house (as they do with the hundreds of bills that the dems create and pass that fail, aren't voting on and doa on arrival when they get to the senate?)....

MEANWHILE THE FACTS OF VOTER FRAUD ARE BEYOND NIL, LITERALLY BEYOND MINUSCULE....

Someone is working overtime to get people really upset about this.

Why? Because you being upset about this and believing that Trump is seconds away from executing Obama means you're not paying attention to the fact that the GDP dropped by 33%, and remembering that the only thing Trump had going for him was the economy.

R40, you're assuming there's rule of law. An axis of the DOJ and the White House: DOJ issues opinion, White House moves to "enforce justice". 5-4 GOP Supreme Court is the only safeguard, and they don't have the guns.

All the military leaders hate trump. Do you really think they’re gonna go along with trump sending them out onto the streets and shooting civilians who are trying to vote? For fucks sake. You guys need a reality check.

No, the Senate cannot "technically override the house" and amend the Constitution.

I don't know if you're too lazy to look shit up, or if you're hoping you can create panic and hysteria on Datalounge (for the lulz, I guess) but no, what you described isn't possible.

He's right about mail being easy to fraud. I've been able to register to vote by mail over multiple addresses, just to see if I could. It's damn easy to do.

R44 you’ve seen too many movies. If a case to delay somehow does make it to the Supreme Court it will not be successful. The constitution could not be anymore clear about election laws.

What is frighteningly scary in this thread is not what Trump tweeted, but the alarming lack of civics education in American schools. Dear God, guys... c'mon some of this is basic stuff. He's setting up his exit plan to save face. And no the Senate cannot Trump the House. Oh my fucking God.

R47, no you haven’t.

R45, the military follows orders from the executive. They're trained to execute commands from the executive. They will execute.

So many are so comfortable, thinking democracy is intact and will stay intact. Because we're America.

"Some things are inviolable. It won't happen here. Laughable."

No.

R48, I'm an attorney. I am very familiar with the Federalist Society (dabbled a bit in law school and early as an associate). I know how these motherfuckers think. They're not playing.

As we saw in recent SCOTUS rulings, they are not so far gone as to throw out the Constitution just to let Trump delay the election and stay in office a little while longer.

[bold]Would-be dictator Trump would be unstoppable in a second term. That must not happen[/bold]

"Everything's great, kids should go back to schools, workers should return to their jobs, the economy is going to bounce back better than ever ... but also, the world has gone to shit and we need to delay the election."

If true, R51, you're a terrible attorney who doesn't have even a basic understanding of Constitutional law.

You read Trump's tweet and immediately came here to convince everyone that he is going to send out the Army to shoot citizens going to the polls to vote.

You're either not right in the head or you're a troll.

It won't (can't?) happen, it is just the usual unhinged rantings of this clown. If he's this desperate, he obviously knows he can't win legitimately, so this is actually a positive sign.

I think it's very plausible that he will challenge the election results, but whether he does so officially or just have a tantrum like he did in 2016, that's anyone's guess.

I would bet the GOP won't back him up if he challenges the results. The GOPers who win in November won't want to rock the boat and be seen backing a loser, and those who lost won't feel any loyalty to Trumpy and won't be willing to help him out.

It's ordinary voters laughing this off - and then not voting - that'll lead to a second term. And then a third. And a fourth. Because "emergency".

The House can't even enforce its own subpoenas.

I doubt even the senate GOP would be on board with this. If you asked McConnell and he was honest I bet he’d say that as long as he could keep his majority he would rather Trump lose. The GOP love to be in the opposition party and they make more money that way anyway.

He's trying to force Democrats to give up on mail-in voting.

RBG needs to hold on for a few more months.

From WaPo

Trump floats idea of delaying the November election, a power granted to Congress, as he ramps up attacks on voting by mail

[quote]The House can't even enforce its own subpoenas.

The House chose not to. Think of that what you will, but they weren't unable to, they simply declined to enforce the subpoenae.

And that fact has nothing whatsoever to do with Trump's sabre-rattling tweet this morning, as you well know.

They don’t have a leg to stand on. They had people voting in the primaries voting during the initial peak on the east coast. The republican Supreme Court of Wisconsin rules AGAINST delaying the election saying that it was perfectly safe to hold it in April. Trump is saying there are hardly any cases and it’s perfectly safe to reopen everything and send kids to school. So he can’t say it’s safe to do everything but vote. Please. This is a distraction from the horrifying economy numbers that came out today.

Why do they report "little evidence" of mail-in voter fraud? There is no evidence, why give him any credence at all?

Reporters on MSNBC smiling and dismissing it. Americans are children. Trump and his sociopathic cabal aren't playing. Barr is the essential brain and can make things happen.

Thank God for the Constitution

This may be the MARY!!!-est thread ever.

THIS IS A FUCKING GIFT TO BIDEN

Think of all the ads about how "Trump is so scared of losing he wants to delay the election"

The press is spinning this as clearly illegal.

In the debates, Biden can mock him for being so scared of losing he wants to delay, tell him "you can move it Donald, but you will lose even worse. No one likes you"

Trump will look weak and like a loser-- two things he hates.

I am sure the Lincoln Project and Meidas Touch guys are jumping up and down with glee right now.

Certainly Barr will draw on decades of think-tank sponsored "unitary executive" theory or some such Federalist Society claptrap to give Trump (no Democratic president, oddly) the power to do this, twisting the Constitution into pretzels and raising eyebrows in the upper strata of the judiciary.

But this tweet, however hopeful he is, is basically Trump's typical attempt to change the subject from bad economic (and other) news. He has legal conspirators like Barr. He has small armies of private soldiers tear-gassing citizens in Portland. He probably doesn't have the confidence or backing of the military in this matter, as Lafayette Square suggested last month. And beyond his tight base, which will welcome the delay in the election, he won't persuade most people—in fact, as has been happening with his various gambits lately, this may well turn off more people.

So protest, raise your voice, make sure the Republicans see that this route leads to loss.

The Lincoln Project:

The president knows he can’t win from a free and fair election. Because the GDP is tanking, coronavirus is out of control, and Americans are pissed.

His only options? Delay, defraud, distract.

[quote]Barr is the essential brain

Er, what? As opposed to the virtual brain?

[quote] Reporters on MSNBC smiling and dismissing it.

Damn! Vlad and Svetlana promised that delaying the elections would be a great move!

[quote] Americans are children.

This is what we learned in training. They are so unsophisticated.

[quote] Trump and his sociopathic cabal aren't playing. Barr is the essential brain and can make things happen.

We know all about his father and Epstein. He'd better deliver.

R70 would seem to prove the theory at R68

i think this will only hurt him even more. it reeks of desperation. its clearer than ever that he just wants to cling to power more than anything else.

The problem with mail-in voting is that by law in many states these votes can’t be counted until after Election Day. With Republicans taking their cue from Trump & not opting for mail-in voting, we’re looking at the real possibility of Trump “winning” Election Day, only to lose thereafter due to “fraudulent” votes. We’re so screwed.

R72, please block me. Your reading comprehension is terrible.

Not knowing the Constitution is embarrassing, but believing that it will hold sway or Republicans would respect the rule of law at their expense is hopelessly naive. He broke decades long agreements, re-appropriated congressionally directed funding, and meddled In court cases. How did the Emoluments Clause work out for Democrats?

"The Constitution protects us. It'll never happen. We have rights."

I take it you're ... treated well by the police ... and generally comfortable. Nothing bad can happen, right? Sure.

Yeah, calm down everyone. It's not like a hostile foreign country installed an agent into the Oval Office last election. It's not like the Attorney General is sending his private goon army to Portland, throwing protestors into unmarked vans and whisking them away to black site motels. It's not like goons are beating up attorneys who show up to help the arrested.

Calm down. I'm sure Republicans will follow all laws and norms. It's not like they wipe their asses with the Constitution. It's not like the Supreme Court is nothing but a partisan shit-show.

It's not like military leaders hate Trump but follow every order he issues. It's not like the military enjoyed beating the shit out of protestors this summer.

You people screeching calm down are the ones living in fantasy land.

Don't get hysterical, but don't just let this go as Trump being Trump. Push back, and push back hard.

You girls need to calm down and read this

There is NO WAY trump can change the election or extend his term

R3, r16

You are addressing posters as HOMOSEXUALS?

Boris dear, just shut up.

WRONG, R75. There is only one state like that: Maryland.

Every other state counts the absentee ballots either on Election Day or before. Some may not count them until after polls close, but they still count them when they start counting in-person ballots.

Stop lying and trying to scare people, for fuck's sake.

You know who nothing on Trump's tweet?

Fox News

Instead the main headline on the website (you cant make this up) is

POLICE MEET MATCH

Soros-backed DAs join fray in clash with officers as political investment pays off

Per the NYT:

Cheeto is just trying to distract from three things: the dismal economic news, his failure to lead on the Corona virus and John Lewis is being buried today with Obama giving the eulogy.

He wants to be on top of the news cycle.

Okay, thanks for stopping by, sockpuppet at r79. Sorry you got outed as a troll earlier and had to go dig up a second account, but surely it's worth it so you can, er, upset maybe four people on Datalounge? Who will, for an hour or so, worry that they're going to get shot on Election Day by hired goons, since Barr is so obviously going to pay for millions of them to go to every city in the country, apparently.

Plus the other batch of a few million goons to burn all the early ballots in every county seat in the country, right? Sure.

Times: 2020 Election Live Updates: Trump Floats Whether to ‘Delay the Election,’ Something He Cannot Legally Do

Note the use of "LEGALLY". Does Cheeto care about the law? Does Barr?

The law won't protect us from bullets, cosseted "Boris!" motherfuckers.

DRAMA!!

GIVE ME DRAMA!!!

I AM GAY, GODDAMMIT!!

I LIVE FOR DRAMA!!!!

[quote]Cheeto is just trying to distract from three things: the dismal economic news

And once again, he has succeeded. You guys fall for it every fucking time. And now no one is talking about today's economic news. He plays the media and the electorate like a fiddle. Those of you in a panic and who have raised your blood pressure, have done so needlessly.

President Pelosi is trending on Twitter and it's all thanks to Dear Liddle Lider.

[quote]He's throwing shit up against the wall to see what sticks

Oh, his shit sticks alright. Believe me, that shit sticks.

R89, they're covering the economic news right now. MSNBC. The Times. The top story on both.

"Ignore this. Nothing to worry about. It's a smokescreen. The economy is the big story."

Hmm.

Thanks for the update R92. I'm watching The Leopard Man on TCM and the news.

[quote]It's not like military leaders hate Trump but follow every order he issues. It's not like the military enjoyed beating the shit out of protestors this summer.

And it's not like he could call in a favor to Putin for reinforcements.

Bone Spurs is reorganizing his campaign staff. Di'mondé & S'ilkie will be the new p-p girls.

Military leadership, Lafayette Square: follow orders, apologize a week later.

Even center-right publications like Politico are being very explicit about how (a) he is lying about mail-in voting and (b) he has no constitutional right to delay the elections

And as per R92, it;s not the main story.

Trump is becoming the things he despises most: boring and predictable

That's where we're at now? Trump is going to import Russian troops to shoot Americans in the streets on Election Day?

I remember someone made a thread a little while ago about the founding fathers coming back to life to beat the living shit out of Trump.

Really wish that would actually happen.

I've blocked the "Never going to happen - stay complacent" Boris and Svetlana trolls.

So a troll is blocking DLers and not the other way around.

Who had that on their bingo card?

He is right that we are hurdling toward disaster with this election, but he’s an idiot to suggest delaying it.

Herman Cain dying from Trump Virus after attending the Trump Rally is going to put Delay on the back burner

And it's only 10:30

DeVos & Prince's mercenary army, Generalissimo Barr decrees of emergency powers, re-installing Flynn, and Putin's special forces. Putin would have a diagram of every U.S. city, block by block.

[quote]Putin would have a diagram of every U.S. city, block by block.

It's called a map, Rose. And yes, most invading forces do have maps.

I'm glad that imagining the US turning into Red Dawn gives you a widdle boner but no one is buying this distraction, not with both the 33% crash of the GDP *and* Trump basically killing Herman Cain at the Tulsa rally.

100 posts on this non-event?

You can’t keep falling for distractions.

The GDP has collapsed and Hermain Cain is dead from Plump’s Tulsa rally.

He’s been fucking with the USPS lately, so keep an eye on that. That’s how your ballots will be delivered and returned.

Don’t put Martial Law past him & Barr. The Repugs were screaming Obama would do it for two terms, no Trump really will do it.

All of you who are saying HE CAN’T! THEY CAN’T! don’t understand the lengths that Bill Barr is willing to go to preserve this presidency. He interrupts the law to his liking and is on holy mission from God in his psychotic mind. THEY WILL DO IT!

HERMAN CAIN DEAD AT 74 ACCORDING TO HIS OFFICIAL WEBSITE

I think many of the complacent people are unaware of what Barr's ideology is. They have no idea how radical he is.

Republicans will be the first to oppose the idea.

GDP IS COLLAPSING!!!

FF OP for being a gullible fool.

And for not linking directly to an article.

R112, fuck you. I linked to the BBC breaking news article. FF for you!

Deflector at r105 calling people Rose. Go back to watching Golden Girls you octogenarian Trumlpter.troll queen with lame utterances..

Dana Bash (CNN) et al are desperate to normalize Cheeto (again), to make it a horserace. "TheRE's BeEn a CHanGE in ToNE!" is the refrain.

Clearly, there's no change in tone. Starting the daily briefings and wearing a mask don't constitute a change in tone, Dana, you pathetic quisling.

*Restarting the daily briefings

My fellow Americans: We were warned back in 2016 that if Trump was elected he'd likely try and find a reason to stop the 2020 election from happening. But yeah, you know....her emails. So now, are you willing to accept the warnings that even if he loses in November (assuming the election happens because part of me believes the GOP will aid him in trying to stop it) he won't go willingly.

The only reason I don’t think Trump will stage a military coup is that he doesn’t have the military in his pocket yet.

Yet.

R36 , FUCK YOU

[quote]octogenarian Trumlpter.troll queen with lame utterances..

A valiant effort.

No chance. He needs the approval of Congress and he does not have control over both.

McConnell declines to answer reporters who asked him for his reaction to Trump's tweet floating an election delay, per WaPo's Erica Werner.

R53, thanks. Good read.

Washington Post columnist Henry Olsen in April: "Biden’s unfounded accusation Thursday that President Trump wants to delay November’s election was not only clearly over the line but also unmasks how low the supposedly moderate Biden will go to win."

Step on the mail-ins Dems. This is no time to back down.

The biggest barrier to him trying to delay or cancel the election is the fact that the states control their own elections, and how many states are going to be okay with delaying elections for governor, senators, state representatives, etc? Not many, not even a lot of red states.

And once you get to the point where several, if not most, states have held the elections as Constitutionally mandated, there's no way SCOTUS would throw out the votes already tallied.

After learning that a staunch ally of his died from a coronavirus infection likely acquired at his Tulsa rally, seeing the stock market drop 500 points and digesting the news of a 9.5 point drop in quarterly GDP, Trump tweets this an hour ago:

Support Patio Pizza and its wonderful owner, Guy Caligiuri, in St. James, Long Island (N.Y.). Great Pizza!!!

"Thank God for the Constitution."

You mean the same Constitution Trump and Barr wipe their asses with every damn day of the week? That Constitution?

Last week: “There’s been a change in tone.”

Gullible media.

"The only reason I don’t think Trump will stage a military coup is that he doesn’t have the military in his pocket yet."

The US military that hasn't won a war in 75 years? They're much more concerned about their pensions and shiny weapons programs that they are protection of Democracy, and like Republicans, will do whatever Herr Trump says.

They're paper tigers who don't have the balls to stand up to Trump.

[quote]R112, fuck you. I linked to the BBC breaking news article. FF for you!

The BBC article you cut and pasted from the first thread posted an hour before this one, you mean? Yeah, you're a goddamned hero, starting a second thread because your fearmongering wasn't getting any purchase on the original thread.

Secretary of State Pompeo this morning, in response to Senator Tim Kaine, on whether a President can delay a Presidential election:

"In the end, the Department of Justice and others will make that legal determination."

R129, is that some kind of diss against Cain? He used to own Godfather's Pizza.

[quote]is that some kind of diss against Cain?

No, Trump was apparently watching a FOX News show that had the pizza owner on, and the owner said he supported Trump.

Secretary of State Pompeo this morning, in response to Senator Tim Kaine, on whether a President can delay a Presidential election:

"In the end, the Department of Justice and others will make that legal determination."

In your dreams Pompeo that your fellow fat ass Barr hold this kind of power!

Any Republican who supports this is a traitor.

ENOUGH WITH THE TREASON.

Maybe those fuckers in Portland could stop wasting time and go to the WH right now. All of these protesters need to gather outside of the WH.

Maybe those fuckers in Portland could stop wasting time and go to the WH right now. All of these protesters need to gather outside of the WH.

R124, no one gives a fuck what the Neocunt thinks.

The point, R141, is that Fleischer lambasted Biden for having the temerity to suggest that Trump would try to delay the election -- an "extreme, dangerous conspiracy theory." Then he heaped scorn on the media for not dragging Biden across the coals.

Three months later and Trump does exactly what Biden predicted.

R142, the bigger point: There are tons of assholes like him who say things like that and then are shown for the hypocrites that they are. He's a shit - that's not news.

If we stopped discussing what "shits" say and do, there would no DL.

This is why Dems need to stop being mealy-mouthed and say outright that we don't elect despots. We will not let this happen. Speak up.

Well, R144, we can at least limit the amount of shit discussion to the current crop rather than dig up the dried shits who started us down the road to hell

No need. Make it all by mail. Problem solved.

Besides, they don't have enough poll workers anyway.

R146, that's why the asshole is trying to delay it. They're screaming about mail voter fraud despite the fact that they all vote by mail themselves.

Everything from this day forward will be a reason to delay/cancel the election. Covid (Cain died! We must honor him by not letting his death be in vain), hurricane destruction in FL, the economy, (nonexistent) voter fraud, USPS collapsing, toe fungus, EVERYTHING.

Honestly, I think it's to distract from Clinton, Bush and Obama speaking at the John Lewis tribute. It has to be humiliating that he wasn't asked.

Trump has frontotemporal dementia. He's been showing signs of it since 2015. The only way to get him out of office before he does more damage is to spread knowledge of his degenerative condition. His supporters like his sociopathy and narcissism so you can't with that argument. Tom J. Chicago on Twitter has experience with this disease and has been chronicling Trump's decline.

I haven't read the full thread, so sorry if this has been asked already, but how are other countries who are due general elections this year handling them in light of COVID?

Tom Joseph @TomJChicago Trump's dementia resembles psychosis now. His tone during his speech yesterday, and his tweet output this morning show he's delusional and violent. It's imperative that Pence and the cabinet remove him today. This is serious. The walls are caving in on him.

Caving in on HIM?

r51 is also a massive fool because most military leaders are against Trump, too now.

NICE TRY, BORIS. Putin's collapse will come soon, as well.

R151, that’s a good question.

R154 = another complacency troll = Boris

Think about a little it took for conservative white assholes to go over the edge and turn fascist so easily. And you want to go off about non-white people who watch their countries get destroyed being "savages"?

We have assholes show up to the statehouse with guns and threaten the life of the governor -with the support of this admin- because they couldn't get a haircut.

White conservatives are in fact the most dangerous people on this planet because it takes virtually nothing to set them off and what's more disturbing? They're set off by efforts to HELP save their lives. Sick people.

what* little

"They're set off by efforts to HELP save their lives."

They're set off by efforts to HELP save black/brown/Asian lives. They're set off because these movements threaten their white privilege, which they swear on their mother's graves does not exist and is a liberal fallacy.

Trump not dealing with the Russian bounties situation has really pissed them off.

r156 = Putin-Trump propaganda fool.

F&F

R159, definitely agree with you there

La Sénatrice: "I don't think that's a particularly good idea"

John Cornyn is now trying to claim Trump was "joking"

Shecky Trump is a real laugh riot, after all those years he spent fine-tuning his comedy routines in the Catskills

He'll deligitimize rather than delay.

R161, F&F. Divisiveness is degrading our democracy. Do better.

Trump doesn't need the military to delay the election. He declares a state of emergency due to the pandemic being out of control, and therefore, it is not possible to have an election where everyone can vote safely. The elections are controlled by the states. The majority of state houses are controlled by Republicans. They agree that the election should be postponed. The Attorneys General from the Democratic states sue in court. It quickly goes to the Supreme Court. They agree that the president has broad discretion with emergency powers.

But maybe Roberts sides with the liberal justices, and the election proceed -- unless of course, RBG doesn't make it to November. Then, even if Roberts wants to side with the liberals, it will not matter since McConnell will have installed another conservative justice by then.

Never think anything is impossible.

[quote]He declares a state of emergency due to the pandemic being out of control

After spending almost a year NOT taking it seriously? I don't think so. He's worse than corona. People would rather deal with a pandemic than him as president for another four years.

R163 I declare, Miss Lindsey! Such strong words!

[quote] He's right about mail being easy to fraud. I've been able to register to vote by mail over multiple addresses, just to see if I could. It's damn easy to do.

R47, you keep stupidly posting this crap, and as far as I know it isn't illegal to register to vote, someone could move a lot and register, however I challenge you to actually try and vote multiple times since you think it is so damn easy. Unfortunately you won't be able to post on DL from prison, which is where you ass will be sitting. Trump is right about nothing.

R170, they truly are stupid. It's like saying "I could easily rob a bank because I've been able to enter multiple banks."

Try to *actually* rob the bank, then we'll talk.

DL has some of the smartest and most informed posters on the internet. We also have some real dumb ones.

Unfortunately, the dumbest ones are running amok in this thread.

When Miss Linsey speaks, menz listen and news bimbos repeat.

Trump says something utterly nonsensical.

America just brushes it off because it just doesn't happen that way.

The DOJ and Executive Branch and all the GOP work hard to make sure it actually happens.

The GOP is just fine with the military voting by mail.

Declaring a national emergency does not give Trump the authority to change the election date. Even in a national emergency, the President does not have any federal powers that are not granted to him, and changing an election date is a power not granted to the President.

The OP is a divisive troll.

Trump is just trying to distract from the news that economy is in the absolute toilet, according to news released today

[quote]2016. He won. Anything is possible.

But he won through the process. The process remains.

He's just setting up a narrative for his loss. It was stolen, I was robbed... let the crazy old man rant.

While I do think distracting everyone from the dismal economic numbers is one aspect, it's interesting time that Dump floated this little idea *after* Big Bill Barr appears before Congress, as they undoubtedly would've ripped him a new one over it.

Can someone get through to these cultist evangelicals?

^ LOL ,,, OMG

Oh, hi Fascism! Come on in!

NC Gov. Cooper said we are voting Nov. 3rd.

This thread is absolutely overrun with trolls trying to foment panic and hysteria. The people you are so afraid of will be gone eventually, if not sooner. Many of those in power will be in disgrace, and will spend the rest of their miserable lives fighting off probate and paying off legal bills. Nothing is to be gained from fearmongering or hysteria-trolling if you refuse to give in to fear and hysteria. Some of the comments I’ve seen are reprehensible and clearly wrong on many levels. I was finishing high school during the assassination of MLK and Bobby Kennedy. The police riots at the Chicago Democratic Convention, 1968. The depths of our involvement in Vietnam, with revelations re bombing in Cambodia and incursions into Laos yet forthcoming. Nixon was elected over an incredibly lame Hubert Humphrey. Chances were that someone you knew, that you had played football with, had gotten drafted, or had just been shipped home in a box. Yet 4 years later There was a Watergate. There was withdrawal from Vietnam. Nixon resigned, and Agnew had already quit when his financial details didn’t add up. You hafta stand up to these bullies, bastards, cowards. They have always been around, throughout history. They do not represent a majority of ordinary people, they represent no one but their own villainous make. They’ll be gone. Soon.

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You’ve got to hand it to Trump — he never stops striving. Already the worst president in US history by a country mile, he’s not content to rest on those laurels, but keeps working hard at it.

What’s that you say? Delay the election so you can remain in power? Check and mate, my friend ... check and mate.

The evil orange sucker is GOING DOWN! Lot's of trolls will be restless and fomenting division. They'll need to form a Wallow in Hate club to keep each other company. Poor sad loser souls.

This will be on my iPod when he is escorted out of OUR White House.

I would never dream of hurting anyone but if he continues on like this someone is going to not give a shit enough to kill him.

I'm guilty of being a hysterical Mary, but at the same time I don't want to be complacent. I do appreciate reassuring comments like R188's, though.

This tweet was just a distraction because the economy has shrink by 30%

"You hafta stand up to these bullies, bastards, cowards."

Those bullies, bastards and cowards of 1974 can't even begin to compare to the bullies, bastards and cowards of The Republican Party of 2020. They've been emboldened and empowered by a cooperative media, a corrupt judiciary, and the concentration of power and money, money and mo' money in far too few hands.

You are a truly delusional old man if you think 1974 can even be remotely compared to 2020. This is not only a political struggle, it's a fight to the finish to preserve white privilege and the status quo once and for all. And if you think the Trump and the Republicans are going to roll over and play dead just because they lose an election, well again you are a delusional old man.

Sorry, Pollyanna Prisspot, but you are wrong on all counts.

It's probably that, R195, yes.

I am not paying any Republicans any compliments when I observe I am surprised at the number of them disagreeing on this and the clarity of the disagreement. They fall short of attacking him as we'd like but they aren't doing their usual trick of staying silent and a lot of them of actually saying no, business as usual. That's major these days. Again, no credit to those cretins but I'll cop to surprise and relief.

Can you imagine what it would do the world economies and the markets if that foolishness from him was allowed to stand unchallenged?

1974 had Russians hacking vote totals with computers?

The OP is all over this thread like stink on shit. He literally has dozens and dozens of posts on this thread. He's the hysteric at r51 who posted:

[quote] [R48], I'm an attorney. I am very familiar with the Federalist Society (dabbled a bit in law school and early as an associate). I know how these motherfuckers think. They're not playing.

He is purposefully trying to foment hysteria. I STRONGLY encourage blocking him, and voting him for F&F.

R188 You are my age and I lived exactly what you described (with edit that, although I canvassed for McCarthy - went "clean for Gene" - I think it's unfair to describe Humphrey as an absolute loser. HH had really progressive proposals - like universal income, a lifetime before Yang...)

.....AND your conclusion, while comfortingly comforting as befits an Elder, is shaky. That period of time led to a Nixonian Era distrust of government which led to Reagan when the whole trendlines to economic and social justice got blocked by the late Capitalism forces of Greed and corruption. If the right things had happened in 1968... we'd never have had Reagan. All data show the American Project began to die with Reagan.

[quote]That period of time led to a Nixonian Era distrust of government which led to Reagan when the whole trendlines to economic and social justice got blocked by the late Capitalism forces of Greed and corruption.

This isn't a new phase, it's the tail end of that. There was the capitalism you described, Clintonian capitalism, unassailable capitalism thereafter because, oh, my dear, the markets! This is the tail end of it. Under Biden you will see reform this country, as it is at present, can handle. And, hopefully with a taste of it, further progress from there.

Is Trump privately collecting funds for matches to burn The Reichstag?

He's already been told by the GOP, "nuh uh fat boy, ain't gonna happen".

He really fucked up on this one. Strategic distraction or not, half the damn Republicans came out against it, albeit without much fire in their bellies. Still, he's alone except for the basket of deplorables he arrived with.

I’m so sick of this fat treasonous fuck. donated $20 to Biden today.

GET OUT, QUEENS TRASH!!!

R192 Amen! This song just leapt into my head last night and I realized it’s the revolution, all around the world, music playing, and people singing, dancin in the streets!

Liar at r47 wants us to believe he committed felonies "just to see."

Stop with 'calm down, the constitution makes it clear he can't do this' crap. How many times do he and his admin need to make it clear: They don't a give a fuck about the US constitution! And no, it doesn't matter if what he's planning is legal; Bar has made it clear Trump is above the law.

Our atty general gave almost $1M to Republican candidates before he became AG.

There is nothing these demons have done that isn't despicable.

Barr is part of that network to Putin.

I'm cautiously optimistic that Biden will win. It's by no means a certainty, though, so Dems mustn't be complacent.

I'm actually surprised Trump hasn't announced that he's not running for re-election, a la Lyndon Johnson. Not only would that spare him the humiliation of losing the election, but it would also allow him to return to his pre-presidential life, which I suspect he strongly preferred. Maybe he feels that stepping down would be a sign of weakness.

I vaguely remember being called a "libtard fearmonger" or some such for saying Trump would try to stop the election back in 2017.

Bill Maher has been saying this since 2016

[quote]Bill Maher has been saying this since 2016

Not to quote that orange dickhead, but "a lot of people have been saying it," but fucking assholes like Maher then decided to spend more time whining about the left and acting like it's the bigger threat.

He seems to be other posters as well, R199.

Florida is Trump Central and even THEY have made it clear they're going to have the election on time, regardless of what Trump says. Most states aren't going to delay the election, and neither Barr nor Trump can force them to. The Federal Gov't doesn't tally the votes, individual states do.

How Trump's tweet turned into "the Russian Army is going to shoot us for voting" on this thread is beyond me, but the scaremongering all over the board today has been pretty bad.

[quote]R161, F&F. Divisiveness is degrading our democracy. Do better.

You've been calling people Boris and Svetlana on here for days, anyone who disagrees with you is "the REAL Boris" or whatever. Someone else does it and you demand everyone FF them? Go away.

I’m feeling much better after watching Lawrence O’Donnell tonight. Apologies for the alarmism. I was duped into distraction.

R217, I did that in reply to someone who called me Boris.

R218, what did he say?

Can you imagine all fake ballots Boris will be sending out trying to confuse people!?

R212 He can’t. As soon as he leaves office, he’ll be engulfed in litigation and lawsuits that will engulf him the rest of his life. Whatever hold Russia (money) has over him will come out and god knows what else. Re-election is his only chance at holding the wolves at bay.

Trump needs to be taken out. End of story.

[quote]I’m feeling much better after watching Lawrence O’Donnell tonight. Apologies for the alarmism. I was duped into distraction.

You called a dozen people "Boris" and told several people to "fuck off," and you said repeatedly that you didn't care what the media said, they were all lying. You also called all Americans "children" for not believing your claim that Trump and Barr were going to put the entire military in the streets to kill people trying to vote. You did this on several threads for hours on end.

Now suddenly the media isn't lying and you were just a little distracted?

This isn’t the only thread the OP here is in, spreading fear and worry, all with the same nasty, violent tone as he does here.

Trump is not emotionally or mentally capable of playing the long game. The media will be soaked with all of the crap he's come up with in the past few months. Those attack ads will be a thing of beauty.

All he had to do to be re- elected was to give a shit about Coronavirus and he couldn't even do that to save himself.

Agree 194. I hate the hysteria and fear-mothering, but wed be foolish to think nothing bad can happen.

R227.

Why is there strong [italic] bipartisan [/italic] pushback against Trump on this?

Because even most Republican politicians know he’s nuts.

The difference is that the primaries are over. Republicans are now more fearful of what the electorate will do than they afraid of a negative swipe from Orange Julius. They know he’s not going to tweet [italic] in favor [/italic] of their Democratic opponent.

Sooo, you have Moscow Mitch disagreeing with him on pushing back the election and admitting he doesn’t want to spend a billion renovating the decrepit FBI building on Pennsylvania Ave to prevent a competitive hotel being built across from Trump’s.

They need to separate themselves from his declining popularity to reduce their chances of straight ticket defeats.

But, should he somehow win, they will bury their newly found backbones and revert to toady behavior until June 2022.

So are we all blocking the OP?

Since yesterday, yes, R230.

No one is for this because by 1.20.2020, Trump and Pence are no longer president and vp. Term is done. If there is no election then we have

Madam President Pelosi.

Bring it.

Trump's not trying to kill democracy at all.

He just wants his vote to outweigh everyone else's and he has the weight to back it up.

All that R229, plus they are deathly afraid that they will be voted out themselves.

Even McTurtle and Lady G are starting to see their races get competitive.

Was good fodder for The Lincoln Project

[quote] So are we all blocking the OP?

No but only because I enjoy seeing what the idiots and nutbags are saying. Amusingly, the OP also started both the “VP Tammy Duckworth: I think she’s the one” and “VP Kamala Harris: Looks like it’s going go be her (sic)” threads, so I guess he is prone to thinking whatever half-baked info crossed his screen five minutes ago is set in stone.

[quote]They don't a give a fuck about the US constitution! And no, it doesn't matter if what he's planning is legal; Bar has made it clear Trump is above the law.

Republicans starting breaking from him at even the suggestion.

There is a court system packed with judges they appointed... who are Constitutionalists.

There are armed forces whose oath is the protect and defend the Constitution.

There's also a nation full of people at least half of which don't support these criminals.

They can try, but I don't believe for a minute they can sustain anything.

If he loses will he start singing "And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going"?

OMG, these shady bitches at the Lincoln Project:

Great ad at R235.

1,000 likes for R239.

R239: YES!!! Shady as Hell and I am HERE for it!👍👍❤️LP!

R188, I'm high school Class of '67. First ever vote on my 19th birthday in 1968. Know all of every moment you mention, including campus unrest/cancelled classes, neighbor boy killed in Vietnam, etc.

But I take slight issue with your description of the late, and yes, great Hubert Humphrey. By many accounts he was in position to defeat heretofore Presidential-election loser Nixon had there been one more month before Election Day. HHH was not McGovern.

R243, you are correct, the 1968 election was actually close. Nixon’s notorious and evil interference in peace negotiations swayed the country against then-VP Humphrey. Trump can only aspire to be the evil that Nixon was.

Trump is FAR worse than Nixon.

Especially when you consider what Trump would do given absolute power.

R245, So far Trump hasn't illegally invaded a sovereign nation (Cambodia, or if you prefer Dubya, Iraq, take your pick); had his AG illegally arrest thousands of protesters (who were each awarded $10K in judgment); continued a war by claiming that peace was nigh (it wasn't); covered up a "3rd-rate burglary," aka, condoned felonies committed against political opponents; had an Administration of convicted felons (campaign staff and lawyers so far with the exception of Gen. Flynn, NSA advisor, but not as many members of the Administration as with Haldeman, Erlichman, Mitchell, Dean, Colson, Magruder, Kleindienst, Chapin, plus Liddy, Hunt, McCord, etc.); and more.

But given a second term......

No, but Trump's actions led to the deaths of many Kurds, many Ukrainians died while he was withholding aid, many thousands of Americans died because of his shitty handling of the coronavirus. And then there's the American soldiers who had bounties put on them, which he knew about and didn't give a shit about

R248, while Dump has done incredible damage, we should be grateful he’s so incompetent. Nixon was highly complement, and was able to do damage 50 years ago that reverberates to this day. Dump, however, is the worst president in terms of capability. COVID alone seals that judgment.

Points taken, r248. Yeah, the Corona dead would be three Vietnam Memorial Walls.

Scary

The Hill today:

August 02, 2020 - 02:07 PM EDT

Clyburn: Trump doesn't plan to leave the White House

House Majority Whip James Cyburn (D-S.C.) said Sunday that he doesn't think President Trump plans to peacefully leave the White House and instead wants to attempt to use emergency powers to extend his term.

Clyburn told CNN's "State of the Union" that he does not think Trump ever planned to "peacefully transfer power."

"I don't think he plans to leave the White House," he said. "He doesn't plan to have fair and unfettered elections. I believe that he plans to install himself in some kind of emergency way to continue to hold onto office."

"And that is why the American people had better wake up," he added.

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These Portland protesters along with millions of others better get their asses to DC and drag him out.

First they better get their asses to the polls.

The military has already said they will not continue to protect him if he loses the election. Trump is a coward and would be crying in a corner if protesters showed up to the WH with no one to protect him. He will have no choice but to waddle away like a baby.