No more Boystown Chicago!!

Will the lesbian mayor be stepping in to protect gay men's spaces?

No, of course not.

Please stop signing Change dot org petitions, and please stop donating to them. None of that money goes towards any given cause, it goes to the people running Change dot org. That's their business model.

Transtopo. Funded by Soros.

Fuck this

Trannies are disgusting. They will stop at nothing to erase gay men completely. It’s scary, and it’s real. Everyone needs to stop supporting these “gay” organizations that have become full on tranny crusaders. I’m counting down the days until the Trans bubble bursts.

there will be backlash eventually

“sexism, racism and transphobia!!!“

“Excuse me?”

“sexism, racism and transphobia!!!”

Just rantings of loons.

Can't they find another neighborhood, gentrify it, and call it ViciousCuntsWithCocksville?

Seriously, though, if I lived in Boystown, and it got renamed "Queerville," I would move.

Don't trans want straight men anyway. If they didn't, Alok and Jacob Tobia would be making mad sweet love and posting it on onlyfans (now I have to wash my eyes out with bleach!)

Can't they just pick another neighborhood and declare it Transtown? The Shim?

I always thought the tag "Boystown" was demeaning to gay men. I don't think it was a name chosen by gay men. It's not even inclusive of gay women.

So fucking stupid. The backlash can’t come fast enough.

R10 there would be like 17 people living there, because trans people are such a minuscule portion of the population.

Some people like to compare gay men to trans people, but this illustrates the difference perfectly: we want our own spaces, they want to take over other's. If they didn't, they would just start "Transtown" instead of this shit.

[quote]“I’ve seen lesbian friends told in gay bars, ‘Why are you here, this our neighborhood” by gay men, and this is because we have signs in our street [that say Boystown]” said Camp. “The ‘Boystown’ signs lead people to assume the neighborhood is set up for the boys.”

Uh, yeah. It was.

R8 - Exactly. You want a Transville? START YOUR OWN SHIT. Make your OWN neighborhood.

Boystown is not a formal name by any means -it's a nickname.

And lesbians traditionally had Andersonville as their neighborhood, but we all know that lesbian bars are now only something to be found by archaeologists.

I don't believe that the gays said the things that were claimed in the article. And, even if some drunk, loud-mouthed bitchy queen DID say something, fucking call him a bitch and move along.

They want this cocoon of positivity, attention, and spotlight ALL. THE. FUCKING. TIME.

Hey Trans - Start your own stuff for once. Leave us the fuck alone.

Here's one of the fraus behind it.

Dyke claims it's literal apartheid.

R16 She is such a cliché. The photo of her face at angle to hide how fat she is, bleached hair, Wonder Woman, a PhD in the easiest subject to get a PhD in.

Well at least they’re not trying for ‘Transtown’

R17 “This is all true but changing the name of the area won’t change the ignorance of the bar tenders or the patrons unfortunately. If you aren’t a gay male good luck getting a table or a drink literally anywhere in that area. Even as a lesbian I don’t feel welcome in boystown.“

Fuck off, bitch. That’s such an exaggeration.

Why do non-gays even want to go to Boystown?

I have been in Lesbian bars where I could not get a drink. It's everywhere! My boyfriend and I just left. Who wants to be where we aren't wanted. Everyone is oppressed. So these bitches crying foul can just fuck off.

Madness reigns.

They need to hold their ground and keep the name of Boystown! Stay firm. Also, what R15 said.

This shit is fascinating. I think it’s awful, too, but it’s fascinating.

Has the Wrigleyville Cumdump issued a statement?

R20 - yes, that's such bullshit. Ask the faghags, which are considerable, what their experience is. My female friends have never had any bad experiences.

I've never seen women in Boystown bars not get served just as much as anyone else. Now, you do have to angle for position in busy bars, but that's the same EVERYWHERE where you have to get the bartender's attention.

Sounds like that lesbian is looking for ways to be offended. Or, maybe she doesn't tip. One person's rant does not make it true.

Over a thousand signatures, with people in the comments saying things like “we need to do this to make the neighborhood save for black trans people!!!”

[quote]Sounds like that lesbian is looking for ways to be offended.

What a surprise.

Next up: "All gay bars must have trans nights/weeks/months!"

Gay men had to stake out their own areas for decades. Why can’t trannies do the same? Why do we have to be inclusive of them? Why do we have to share OUR areas? Why do so many people feel the need to bow down to these freaks?

Change is hard. I think we all benefit from diversity and inclusion. But there is a way to go about it that yields better and more positive results. This is not the way.

I actually don't object to a renaming, I just think capitulating on this is likely to lead to a whole new round of new, more unreasonable demands.

I object to a renaming. It WAS the gay boys who made that neighborhood and fought hard to make it a safe area for people of all types.

That area used to be somewhat dangerous, with lots of gang activity. Gays were attacked routinely. There were gay patrols to ensure safety. It also was ground zero for community support during the AIDS crisis.

They worked with local police to educate police officers about gay issues and hate crimes.

The 'boys' made that area through blood, sweat and tears. Literally. What did trans do? And besides, what are trans doing in gay bars? Don't they want to pass as straight?

Political correctness run amuck! Everyone needs to realize that no one will be free from hurt feelings in his or her lifetime.

Navel gazing now trumps everything!

Newtown is what it was called before it was called Boytown. It was newly gentrified. It isn't new anymore.

Straight people go there because the food and shopping are great.

Call it East Lakeview.

Yuck.

Boystown was always a strange and regressive name. Why are gay men “boys?” Why would we consciously brand ourselves that way when there is still so much misinformation that conflates homosexuality and pedophilia?

R36 - say what? When was it ever called Newtown? I'm calling bullshit on that. Gentrification is a slow process. Gays slowly moved up the north side and settled in East Lakeview in very late 70's / early 80's.

So NOW people have a problem with the nickname after 40 years?

Seriously, it's like they sit down and say - ok, what can we change / attack next?

R38 Oh do fuck off you self loathing queer.

[quote] Transtopo. Funded by Soros.

Too bad evil sinister Jewish forces couldn't scrape the money together to have you put down.

Ok - R36 - I looked it up. It was called New Town for a brief time in the early 70's. But it was gays who made that neighborhood what it is today.

Lesbians lived further north and to this day, there is still a lesbian parade in Andersonville usually the day before Gay Pride in Boystown.

This is why we can't have nice gay things.

It needs to be called "Woketown"!

It's always the TQ+ woke freaks. Everything they touch is destroyed.

So happy to have come of age way back when men had penises and knew how to use them with abandon.

Change.org, Really? Have they ever gotten anything of importance changed in the US? I looked at the list of petitions of note at Wikipedia and it was rather unimpressive, they got a dog that killed a duck a reprieved from being put down and got Kevin Spacey replaced in a movie, something that probably would have happened anyway.

It still exists, they just changed the name. Republicans have trouble dealing with change, I guess.

"So happy to have come of age way back when men had penises and knew how to use them with abandon"

Republicans say similar things to trash gays. "In my day, men were men! We fucked women, not guys!"

Something that has occurred to me is that the Trans Movement has been as successful as it is because it feels familiar to people. The generational lessons learned and passed down from gay white men have been redirected and are now being focused in service of a microcosm of the community.

Kind of like The Lincoln Project is successful because it is (fractional) Republicans attacking Republicans.

Trannies are like raisins, they ruin everything

Future name change: Transylvania. You heard it here first.

R39, here's one article referencing when it was called Newtown. If you google, you can probably find 20.

In the 1970s and ’80s, the area was known as New Town, a moniker that reportedly came from the migration of gays and lesbians, young hipsters and counterculture groups from the Old Town neighborhood a couple of miles to the south.

In addition to encompassing the modern Boystown, New Town also extended south to include the area around Diversey Parkway, Clark Street and Broadway, which was itself once the epicenter of Chicago’s gay community and remains on the route of the Gay Pride Parade.

Boystown became the nation’s first official gay community in 1997.

Sorry, R38, not R39 questioned the naming of New Town.

Oh, fer chrissakes! (My standard response to just about everything these days.)

How about Pridetown? It's sort of dumb but it anticipates any contingency and is all-inclusive.

Boystown sound creepy and a new name would be welcome, however not because black trannys are demanding it.

Queerville sounds awful.

So the name is literal violence against POC trannys?

This makes me hope I die soon. I have had enough of this world. Their attacking us this way is more than I can bear. I get the Christians wanting to immolate us, but these people who want to be part of the same initial set with us wanting to destroy us this way is more than I can bear.

I have lived my life. It has been a good life in many ways. But now, I want it to be over.

[quote]Queerville sounds awful.

Using ‘queer’ to describe a person is a swell way to get off to a lousy start.

FUCK YOU GENDERQUEER TRANS CUNTS!

Of course OP got greyed out.

Here's the article again:

[quote]these people who want to be part of the same initial set with us wanting to destroy us this way is more than I can bear.

The only way for trans to exist is for you to cease existing.

At least parasites know not to kill the host.

Front Hole Village

[quote]Can't they find another neighborhood, gentrify it, and call it ViciousCuntsWithCocksville?

They can't afford to gentrify shit.

Randy Rainbowville.

Fine. Cocksucking Shemale Trannytown it is!

[quote]I don't believe that the gays said the things that were claimed in the article. And, even if some drunk, loud-mouthed bitchy queen DID say something, fucking call him a bitch and move along.

Exactly. This is what used to be called "real life." Sometimes when you're out in a public place like a bar you're going to encounter some cunt who gives you attitude. That's just how the world is. Toughen up and don't let it ruin your night. God, these people are such insufferable snowflakes.

The trannys have already erased women so they are on the their next target.

R69 No, you're still here-- loud and tiresome as ever.

Boisterous Town

Sadly, gay men can no longer have spaces of our own.

This is why I understand the straight women who are upset. They're being told that they aren't women or can't have their own spaces!

I live right next to Boystown and liked it because it was easily identifiable, but I agree that the name is rather reductive. Even calling men boys is not a good look.

How about Pride Village, simply Pride for short? I also wouldn't mind just calling it The Town. Acknowledges the old name without going overboard.

Shenistopia

This is out Fort Hood. Maybe Trump will send a Tweet.

Front Hole Hamlet

I love this whiner:

--> As a full-bodied, gender non-binary individual, I have never felt safe in this “safe space.”

Translation: I can't get fucked so screw you all!

If you ever needed proof that gay men need to break off from LBGTQIA+++ and become their own thing, it's in the comments over there.

Disclaimer: I've never been to Boystown and it's probably not my cup of tea from what I've seen, but I appreciate that places like that exist.

But don't they already have Transylvania?

r77 I think you'd like it. It has a lot of different bars. Especially the further north you go, there are some nice calm places to grab a drink or food.

Boystown was nice about 15-20 years ago when it had a mixture of shops and bars.

But it started to be an area where a lot of straight families with strollers moved in, so suddenly, OMG we can't have shirtless men or dildos in the window any longer!

A lot of the bars have seen better days and some of the more fun shops along the way have closed.

Then the community center opened on the north end of Boystown, and all THAT did was bring a few hundred young black kids from the South Side, some trans, all with a huge leap in crimes, because in the neighborhoods they grew up in, everyone steals, everyone mugs and everyone solves a dispute with a fight.

It's unbearably sad what's been done to a once glorious neighborhood.

I was in college from 2005-2010 and Boystown had a vibe that was a mix of the old Wicker Park and Lincoln Park combined. Yuppyish but still gritty and if you weren't wealthy, you could still afford to live there. I had college friends who lived in nice studios at the time. I don't think that would be possible now. Boystown sucks now, probably no different from Chelsea. It's mainly white gay yuppy heaven.

And there were sex shops at the time, not sure if they are still there.

[quote]Translation: I can't get fucked so screw you all!

That's pretty much it. They're obsessed with cis men, but 99% of cis men don't want anything to do with them and they're totally bitter about that.

[quote] I've never been to Boystown and it's probably not my cup of tea from what I've seen, but I appreciate that places like that exist.

I've never lived in Chicago but I've visited a bunch of times and always had a good time in Boystown. It's very laid back and the guys are friendly, for the most part. It's not like WeHo or Chelsea.

[quote]Will the lesbian mayor be stepping in to protect gay men's spaces? No, of course not.

This lesbian mayor is worthless just like all the previous mayors.

[quote]But it started to be an area where a lot of straight families with strollers moved in, so suddenly, OMG we can't have shirtless men or dildos in the window any longer!

Just like with West Hollywood. They move into OUR spaces, then have the nerve to bitch about our culture. Then don’t fucking move to our spaces!

Yup. The fraus and their strollers are fine coming to the neighborhood when they're drunken young sluts at a bachelorette party, but as soon as a kid gnaws its way out of their vag they all clutch their pearls.

r80 I'm there all the time and haven't experienced this crime. A few times there are groups that look like they could throw hands, but anywhere in Chicago can feel less than safe after sundown. Boystown is still a white haven with enough segregation to satisfy your rose-colored vision of the demographics in a good gayborhood.

That reminds me r81, I missed out on the old Wrigleyville drunk (possibly hot) fratboy era. I got to see the madness at the old Taco Bell, but by the time I arrived even Wrigleyville was sanitized compared to the stories I had heard. I guess Boystown was also cleaned up in a similar fashion.

R89, Boystown has changed so much. I can't even believe all that stuff that's being built by Wrigley Field! That Taco Bell was legendary for drunk nights. I still love Southport street though. Julius Meinl is one of my favorite spots there.

Chicago is so fucking annoying with all its diagonal streets.

Boystown hasn't been a gayborhood for a long time. YuppyTown or BreederNexus for new name would be more appropriate. But don't tell that the anti trans loon who prepares herself for her "Gay Erasure by Trannies!" temper tantrum performance. They are always a hoot.

r92 I have noticed that a lot of straight people live around Boystown. Unless you're renting above one of the bars, it ain't cheap. But the gays still congregate there every day and night so too me it's maintained it gayborhood feel. When I'm out, especially at the Side Track/Roscoe/Progress intersection, it always seems like 80% gays and lesbians with a few straight friends.

I simply love the fact that straight people are cool with visiting Boystown and we aren't freaks or some hidden tabu. That said, it appears that Trans are the ones leading the March to change the name.

Anyone else that wasn't to share their anecdotes about Boystown are more than welcome welcome. I hate that I'm 10-15 years late to the party.

There have already been several threads on this OP. Would it have killed you to have done a search before you posted this? Would it? What’s wrong with having a little consideration for others and doing a search first? Would it really have been that hard? Would it? Are you going to be able to give us an honest answer to this? Are you?

Couldn't you have eaten a huge pile of shit before posting, R94? Couldn't you?

R92 - it is still the center of gay night life. Huge Pride Center. And Halsted Days. And where the Pride parade goes through. Just because straights moved in and some gays can't afford to live there anymore doesn't make it less of a gay neighborhood or the center of gay life.

Gay men are the customers and lifeblood of the bars, nightlife and many of the restaurants in that area. Trans are not pumping in the dollars to support these businesses. Neither are lesbians.

Lesbian bars died because of lesbians not going there enough to keep the revenue up. It's not gay men's fault.

While it may suck to not be the majority, that's just the way it is. Gay men and lesbians had to start their own organizations and have their own spaces.

Trans want to invade gay spaces and use the gay community's money and resources to elevate themselves. They label gay men (particularly white gay men) as these oppressors because they are the majority of customers and faces that they see.

That's fucking life. If you don't have the numbers or resources to create spaces of your own, stop bullying your way into other people's places.

[quote] I simply love the fact that straight people are cool with visiting Boystown and we aren't freaks or some hidden tabu. That said, it appears that Trans are the ones leading the March to change the name.

So, the straights who pushed the gays out of their own neighborhood get a free pass, because they generously allow us to have a few drinks there, but the Trannies are the real baddies for apparently trying to make it official that it's no longer an actual gayborhood? For real?

The straights didn't change the name, dumbass r97.

R98 - Amen.

R97 sounds like he doesn't have any reasoning ability. You need to either go back to school or ask for a refund R97.

The straights moved in after we made it nice - but they don't own the bars or the pride events or anything else. They only liked the atmosphere and priced a lot of gays out.

Trans - well, have done what exactly for the gay community? And they want to shame people for naming an area for gay men just because they are gay men.

Start your own neighborhood, Ts. You were successful enough starting your own movement. Stop parasiting.

r97, people that don't own shit (lifetime renters) will rarely have a leg to stand on when it comes to the outcomes of their residence. If you own a property then the likely hood of being "pushed out" is drastically reduced. I know many gay men that can easily afford to live in Boystown, but chose some of the other great neighborhoods in Chicago. You will still see them in Boystown at least once a week. Chicago has become more gay friendly since the Bush-era so the idea of confining gays to one neighborhood seems rather foolish unless people want to live there. Boystown is still unmistakably gay.

Different generations have different expectations for their gay communities. The acceptance of gays by Millennials and now Gen-Z can not be ignored as gay ghettos transition from safe harbors to simply social gathering spots. I find it funny that the older generations that fought for equality are shocked when their successful campaign ended up breaking down some of the segregation between gays and straights. Isn't that what you wanted?

On the flip side, gay couples can openly attend straight bars and clubs with minimal issues in trendy parts of the city. We've blended into each other's spaces and it's a better more honest way to live.

Women will stop at nothing to erase gay men.

They’ll never change me!

[quote] On the flip side, gay couples can openly attend straight bars and clubs with minimal issues in trendy parts of the city. We've blended into each other's spaces and it's a better more honest way to live.

So, why is the re-naming of Boystown an issue again? Let's just call it MingleTown where everybody can mingle. Yay!

Mingleberry ^^

can we change it to Boistown?

Fuck. We're next.

[quote]I don't believe that the gays said the things that were claimed in the article.

Oh lord, someone on Datalounge said they didn't believe gays would say such awful, rude things.

Unbelievable. Bitch, are you new here?

The name is very misleading. I was disappointed after visiting.

gogo DLers! We cannot let these queers delete our history.

I used to go to Boystown in the 1990s. I don't want to see what those boys then look like now.

The entire movement to change the name is coming from folks external to the community. Leave us alone and go about your business.

No one will be left alone among those who are not sufficiently revolutionary.

At the heart of gay and lesbian movement is the idea that there is nothing wrong with us and that we do not need to change to be complete and healthy individuals.

At the heart of the trans movement is the idea that there is something wrong with them and that they need to change to be complete and healthy.

In the process of changing themselves, they want everyone else to change along with them. Being something you are not never ends well. Trying to force people to change (e.g. trans women are full women despite biology) also does not work.

Polar opposite belief sets.

Why do people like her claim to want to end hate and division, and then immediately proceed to ignite more?

It's a great business model I have to admit.

Just rename it to Mortville and have Queen Carlotta rule!

[quote] At the heart of gay and lesbian movement is the idea that there is nothing wrong with us and that we do not need to change to be complete and healthy individuals.

That's at the heart of the gay movement, but not the lesbian one,, which advocated for a radical restructuring or society.

R114 I wish I could give multiple WW’s. You properly explained the core differences.

Gays don’t need to change themselves or others to live their lives. They only want peace and acceptance.

Trannys don’t like themselves and want to change their physical appearance in an effort to calm the severe mental illness ravaging them. This also means that they must attempt to change and control others as well.

One is not like the other.

What’s next? Steamworks allowing in fraus??? There goes the neighborhood!

R117=trans loon.

R115 Boystown IS about hate and division just like Chelsea in Manhattan was. If you’re not a cisgender white male you are not welcome. Chelsea fell when the rest of the LGBT community boycotted it and rich straights moved in. Boyztown willl/should disappear for the same reason.

Still not gonna fuck you, R121. The ugly is inside and out.

R121, this is not the "fantasy fuck thread"--you are just making things up. Go back to your asylum.

Tampon Town is the best name for it. You can have special menstruation stations on the streets where you can donate menstrual blood.

That was certainly called for, r124.

[quote] there will be backlash eventually

Too late. The time for action was five years ago. All we can do now is watch everything we’ve built just crumble and fall to these deranged activists.

R124=Jessica Yaniv.

r115 the same thing can be said about people trying to remove statues and rename bases. Boystown is really rather dated. Changing the name won't erase history any more than changing the name of a military base changes history. Come on, folks!

Would I prefer that the name remains Boystown? Yes, but sensibilities evolve with time. This is small potatoes.

We call it Goystown.

r121 what are you talking about? I'm black and have been welcomed in Boystown. This isn't Phillidelpbia's "no-blacks" gayborhood. Boystown literately has bars to cater to white, black or Latino tastes. Then there are bars with a more even mix, but white people are the majority so you may see more of them. But everyone is welcome in every Boystown venue, based on y friends' group experiences.

Only people that have issues are those looking to cause trouble, but with SO many cops posted outside of the bars and managing door security, I've never felt in danger. Even if I had a problem there is typically a cop a block or two away. Boystown is awesome! The cops are very gay friendly and you would get to know them by face and name if you frequent the big venues.

[quote] Too late. The time for action was five years ago. All we can do now is watch everything we’ve built just crumble and fall to these deranged activists.

Accurate. Oh, there are a few people here and there who have begun to recognize this lunacy for what it is. But, it is too little and much too late. Plus, there are too many gay men who will want to prove to everyone — themselves included — that they are the wokest of the woke and they will be happy to give away everything to demonstrate that.

Gay men have already been erased from our own history by those who happily abandoned facts and evidence to declare that Johnson and Rivera were trans and they singlehandedly started the Stonewall Riots. The revisionist history crowd repeats this falsehood constantly, and as a result it has become accepted by anyone who doesn’t critically question if it is even remotely accurate, which it is not.

So yes, any references — even oblique ones — that are not thoroughly, completely, and undeniably inclusive of every segment of the community will be slowly erased. Well, unless they reference the trans/queer crowd. Those, though hardly inclusive, will be permitted, welcomed, and even celebrated.

Welcome to the new overpersons.

[quote] As a full-bodied, gender non-binary individual, I have never felt safe in this “safe space.”

I think that feeling safe is supposed to mean you don't feel like you're going to get mugged or beaten half to death; it doesn't have anything to do with feeling rejected.

[quote]Gay men have already been erased from our own history by those who happily abandoned facts and evidence to declare that Johnson and Rivera were trans and they singlehandedly started the Stonewall Riots. The revisionist history crowd repeats this falsehood constantly, and as a result it has become accepted by anyone who doesn’t critically question if it is even remotely accurate, which it is not.

I've said this on another thread but if trans women of color had really been in charge of the gay rights movement, homosexuality would still be illegal.

Yes, the name Boistown is the equivalent of honoring Stonewall Jackson and others who fought to keep some people enslaved!

R91. Do you like the diagonal streets in Barcelona and Washintonn?

LGB needs to break with the T internationally and *now*, while there's still time to undo some of the damage they've forced into law. They are a small group of crazy people with the financial backing of autogynephilic billionaire bio-medicalists and lawyers. They have been putting their dream vision of the future, which has no gay people or real women in it, into place in the late 70s. They have overtaken all the major and many minor gay rights organisations and are undoing every single advancement we have made since the 1950s. This is not a joke.

R130 then PLEASE start a petition so that they realize the 1100 assholes trying to change Boystown do NOT represent the majority!

r137, change.org takes down 'transphobic' petitions

How exactly is the name "BOYStown" Transphobic?? Sexist, perhaps, but since "Transmen are men", they should fit right in.

Trans 'men' are women.

r139 statements of basic biology have gotten thousands of women banned from Twitter for 'hateful conduct'

The new dogma:

r142 that's madness!

r143, it's all over Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, your new laws, children's school approved educational materials, medical guidance, and especially what the former LGB now T orgs are promoting.

r143, if you don't believe this, you're 'a transphobic bigot':

..........

........

I know all abourt the insanity on Twitter etc. and stating you believe in biological sex.

But just the WORD "BOY" is transphobic how? And "racist" how?

r148, re: the claims of racism - the trans cult believes that biological sex was imposed upon indigenous peoples by colonisers, that non-white people were just pro-creating by dumb luck until whitey showed up and forced them to believe in biological facts, facts which Big Trans deny exist or, if those facts exist, they're transphobic.

R149 I think I need to throw up now.

r150, congratulations, you just hit Peak Trans! Welcome to the club!

It's all goobledygook. Always ends with "Think about it". Sheesh.

I vote for "Gaysville".

Homosexlandio

I want to know how many of the 1100 signatures are from people actually in Chicago. Sounds like the trans brigade from everywhere came to sign.

I also want to know what exactly a 'safe space' is supposed to be and how everyone is supposed to act.

It's all word soup and non-specific criticisms and objections designed to make people feel guilty and the accusers to be the oppressed.

They can't say what it is - it's just a feeling. We need specifics. And no, you can not force businesses to have trans nights or divide up venues according to your identities. These aren't shared resources like college classrooms. Businesses are in business to make money and support themselves. That's it. You don't like it? Start your own.

Everybody has a say in gay mens' spaces and neighborhoods except actual gay men these days. Crazy!

If I have to listen or read another lecture from a straight woman who calls herself "Queer"I'm going to go mental.

Just for clarification, can someone briefly rehash what the issue is with the name "Boystown" and who exactly has the problem with the name? There's some petition that's been signed by a bunch of trannies to change the name because they don't like the use of the word "boy"? Or is it lesbians who feel the name excludes females? I am legitimately confused.

And correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the area actually kind of started by gay men, or at least in large part by them? So doesn't the name fit? It'd be like non-Christians demanding the names San Francisco, San Diego or St. Paul changed because they inherently exclude non-Christian religions. Or wanting Charlottesville changed because it's female.

To those claiming the use of the term boy is weird or off-putting, I'd assert that its primarily a colloquialism, like when a group of men or woman describe their evening together without spouses as a boys' night out or girls' night out. People are reading way to much into this freaking name.

Hey fuck you r156 you lazy bastard. Do your own research or read the fucking article yourself.

R157 I would but I don't want to, you dumpy fat whore.

This person doesn't look healthy at all.

The name Boystown is LITERAL VIOLENCE! It must be renamed and the whole neighborhood turned into a safe space!

R159 - that woman doesn't provide very compelling arguments in that interview.

[quote] Everybody has a say in gay mens' spaces and neighborhoods except actual gay men these days.

What R155 said — because it bears repeating.

That lesbian at R159 looks like a cross between Cynthia Nixon and her husband.

𝐁𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐂𝐡𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐠𝐨’𝐬 𝐥𝐚𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐋𝐆𝐁𝐓𝐐 𝐧𝐞𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐛𝐨𝐫𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐝 𝐖𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐩 𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐤𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐚 𝐚𝐬 𝐁𝐨𝐲𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐰𝐧,

The announcement follows an online survey by the Northalsted Business Alliance, answered by 7,900 people.

Of those survey-takers, 58% favored keeping the Boystown moniker and 20% said they felt unwelcomed by the Boystown name, according to Northalsted Business Alliance spokesperson Jen Gordon.

The Northalsted Business Alliance began the survey in the wake of a Change.org petition calling for a name change that now has 1,500 signatures.

The petition says that “systemic transphobia, racism, and sexism have plagued our neighborhood for decades, and it begins at the top, with the all-male board of the Northalsted Business Alliance. It begins with the BOYSTOWN signs down our street announcing that this neighborhood is ‘for the boys.’”

The petition came at a time when Boystown’s power structure was increasingly under fire from transgender people of color: Speakers at the Drag March for Change, which drew thousands of Black Lives Matter protesters in June, complained that they were denied jobs or steady work at nightclubs and bars because they were Black.

[quote] Of those survey-takers, 58% favored keeping the Boystown moniker

Why did they even bother to put out the survey when they already knew what they were planning on doing?

Whatever the call Lakeview, trannies will still be shunned, because they are repulsive

We still have steamworks for now!

so they did the survey and are ignoring the results. the MAJORITY want to keep it as is.

Change it to Funkytown.

who's starting to hate the world "systemic" ?

"I'm going to the Whole Foods in Northalsted." "Don't you mean the Whole Foods on North Halsted?" "Who's on first?"

Stupid (wishIhada)cunts.

Morons: trans are NOT attacking gay culture and homosexuality itself! Only right wing racists think that, you bigots!

Also morons: OMG where are these changes coming from?!

Trans loon or Svutlana at r173

You decide

I would suggest rebranding the neighborhood as the Swish Alps.

Chicago does NOT have that many diagonal streets.

So Devlyn Camp has got what he wanted with a minority of votes. What's next on the list? Because there will be something else he's going to find.

20% felt 'unwelcomed' by the name. Ok - what the fuck does that mean?

So a name change to "The Proudest Neighborhood" - whatever the fuck that means - is going to make you feel more welcomed in a neighborhood where you're going to see 85% gay men out at night?

Guess what - it's a gay male neighborhood and it is the majority - by far. If you think it's going to become trans-oriented or a hug-fest for non-binary, then you're dreaming. Start your own stuff - but no, they want the attention and spotlight on them because, y'know, so special and brave.

Northalsted is such a vanilla name, you know realtors just want to change it so they can market to the wrigleyville frat boy chad crowd

R178 - well, Wrigleyville was a realtor moniker as well. I don't know many realtors who market Boystown - just East Lakeview or even Wrigleyville. I never really saw Boystown used as it can turn some straights off.

[quote]Guess what - it's a gay male neighborhood and it is the majority - by far. If you think it's going to become trans-oriented or a hug-fest for non-binary, then you're dreaming. Start your own stuff - but no, they want the attention and spotlight on them because, y'know, so special and brave.

And they're broke-ass bitches who want to muscle in and take over everything that GAY MEN built.

R180 - that's the problem with the umbrella of pride - now everybody wants in and wants shelter. The umbrella is only so big - sometimes you got to go buy your own umbrella.

[quote]Can't they just pick another neighborhood and declare it Transtown? The Shim?

That would require money and effort. And a business plan. It's much easier just to take over what others have built.

The only thing change.org is good at is the collection and sale of petition signers’ data.

I hate that they make out the Northalsted Business Alliance as this enclosed boys group. You know what a qualifying factor is? You have to own a BUSINESS on North Halstead.

But no - it's some conspiracy against trans and women.

[quote]that's the problem with the umbrella of pride

No, the problem is, did anyone ask us what we thought before you went full-steam ahead with that bit of imagery?

They could remove all neighborhood names and refer to each area as a numbered ward or district, and Ts would still find an issue with it.

I know women who have "Girls' Night" in Boystown. It's a fun night. Are they supposed to stop coming around, too?

Yes r187

Straight women ruin everything

Though the trannies are giving them a run for their money

Trannies are

Trannies are disgusting mentally retarded individuals and hates gay people.

These people need to go back to TRANSylvania!