Part 3 - Actress Naya Rivera Missing After Swimming In Lake.

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Then out spake brave Santana,

The Mistress of the Gate:

"To every woman upon this earth

Death cometh soon or late.

And how can woman die better

Than facing zero odds,

For the brackish depths of bathers,

And the bottom-dwelling cods?”

She's fine, she sends her love

If she’s found alive, I swear I’ll buckle down and finally watch GLEE!

I think you're safe, R4.

R4 Watching that show that show is almost as bad a fate as drowning.

I still suspect the child.

scary r7.

I still think Chrissy Metz packed the snack purse.

I still think she is wandering around the surrounding mountains confused and cold amd hungry!

Was sending this on the other thread, then it filled up:

Brackish water usually refers to where fresh water riverflow meets the saltwater of a bay/ocean. So usually an estuary or marshland. This lake doesn't mingle with saltwater -- it's just highly sedimented. This lake also recedes when water levels are low, and all forms of trees/plants sprout up on the dry lakebed. That's why there are lots of trees and vines in the lake.

So happy to see Pon posting in Part 2! We have missed you!

Not that I had anything interesting to say or ask, but since I've been on my drank, I didn't realize I posted so late and the thread had closed. So, not to be THAT whore, I'm reposting, as I'm genuinely curious, and genuinely tipsy:

I haven't looked at part 1 but has anyone here actually been on this lake to testify to said "brackishness"? I used to go out to Lake Berryessa when I was but a wee fruit, and hated how dank the water was, but it wasn't THAT bad. It looked very similar to what this lake looks like. To me, (it is all about me) brackish is usually a disgusting color, horrible smell, gooey texture, and you get the no-no feeling (I'm on my 4th G&T **edit, now 5th** allow me my infantile stupidity) in your gut that it is bad to swim in, let alone take a fucking pleasure cruise on it.

Link to Part 2

She probably watched Gone Girl and, being your typical attention starved psycho actress, hopes this will make her relevant again.

Aaaand Link to Part 1

I thought her last words were “Give my regards to foreign Broadway!” And “Don’t let the brackish water get you down.” “Glub glub!”

R12, here's a clip of the search from earlier today.

This is sad. A friend of mine drowned in 8th grade, some 35 years ago. Similar situation- jumped off a boat, never resurfaced.

I’ve been terrified of freshwater lakes / rivers since then.

It has served me well.

This is bigger than Kobe.

And by "this" I mean Chrissy Metz.

[quote] Actress Naya Rivera Missing After Swimming In Lake.

Best thing for her really. Her therapy was going nowhere.

As was mentioned in previous threads, the water in that lake is VERY cold. It could quickly incapacitate someone, even if they knew how to swim.

Watching Glee clips, Naya is giving me young Olivia Hussey.

What a weird way to go out.

[quote]naya rivera is not a "famous celebrity" she is a young woman with friends and family just like you. she deserves every single bit of effort to be found dead OR alive. do not let her 4 year old son and parents without a mother and daughter because she is "presumed" to be dead. the police tried to find naya rivera only for SIX hours and they’re renaming the mission to a “recovery” mission? she could VERY much be alive. we need to check HOSPITALS for jane doe's, contacting all the buildings in the area to see if theyve seen her! EXTEND THE SEARCH OUTSIDE OF THE LAKE. through the BLM movement we all know how much of a difference petitions make. please share this and keep her in your prayers.

We DEMAND you IMMEDIATELY search Joans on Third, Pace, and Salt's Cure; search Golden Bridge Yoga, the Sweat Spot, and Body by Simone; search Sally Hershberger, Rossano Ferretti, and Sonia Dakar; search Agent Provocateur, La Perla, and Luxe; search Fred Segal, Ron Herman, and Planet Blue; search Moon Juice, Erewhon, and Kreation; search Fryman Canyon, Runyon Canyon, and the SM stairs; search Hammer and Spear, deKor, and Rolling Greens; search Remedy Place, Golden Folk Wellness, and Surya Spa. I could go on...

Maya Angelou drowned in a river in Peru? I thought she died years ago?

Hi Larry, R25.

Um, not to be crass, but how much is this search costing?

Twitter freaks:

[quote] she could VERY much be alive. we need to check HOSPITALS for jane doe's, contacting all the buildings in the area to see if theyve seen her!

Knock yourself out. Pick up a phone...

Why on earth would you go swimming in the middle of a dirty lake with a 4 year old with no other adults around? If anything, wouldn’t you swim near the edge near land if you have a little kid and you’re the only adult?

Did anyone figure out why she decided to take herself and her 4-year-old out into the middle of a large, cold, empty lake?

That's the part that fucks me up.

That, and her last Twitter post (her kissing her kid with the caption "Just the two of us") really makes you wonder

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R30 she grew up in the area and had been a regular visitor to the lake

I enjoyed Glee and even planned to finish the series at one point, but the tragic circumstances involving the deaths along with the news about Lea's onset behavior has forever tarnished this series for me. I don't think I could ever revisit it.

R30 Exactly. Top that off with the breakdown she had with her ex a few years ago and I can’t help but to think this may have been suicide.

R33 well the writing sucked after the first 13 episodes

It’ll be interesting to find out what her behavior/state of mind was like around the people close to her the last few weeks of her life.

Here's an image of a receded lake (similar to Lake Piru) taken during a drought year. These are some of the goodies that lurk beneath the water surface. So somebody may think they're swimming in perfectly fine open water and then their leg gets caught in a branch or a vine and they can't disentangle.

I think with Covid maybe the places to go are limited so she went somewhere peaceful and to get away (though to me it looks foreboding and too vast)

Three photos of Lake Piru in 2014, the worst year of the drought.

I assumed this was an accidental drowning but after watching those tourism videos where I see it's relatively safe to go in the water, am now leaning either toward suicide, though it could still be a freak accident.

Don't look at ME.

Maybe her little Stewie shot her...

Anyone believe in reincarnation?

r37, is that Big Foot?

I hope the kid eventually forgets everything that happened on the boat. It's going be hard growing up knowing that your mom drowned but it'll be worse if he remembers waiting for her on the boat.

R47 Big foot in a one piece bathing suit? Looks more like Starr Jones to me.

OK, I have to say that the photos posted look pretty fucking brackish. Maybe she got stuck in the mud? Fucking disgusting.

r48 Yeah. Glad the greedy fuckers who wanted their boat back....I mean the kind souls looking out for her...went out as early as they did when she was past check in time and found the wee lad OK. If they were on some extended smoke break, or just a IDGAF break, and the kid started to freak out (as I would have), and dunked in to find his mom, this would be so much more horrible.

Maybe she dove in from the boat and hit her head on something under the water?

The kid has FAS eyes.

The Child must be put under hypnosis and forced to recount [italic] everything.

Maybe both of them were hypnotised for the entire outing.

R12, I've only seen Berryessa from afar, but they're pretty similar -- didn't get near Berryessa water, so can't say for sure though. Piru's water is not pristine but it's not foul-smelling like a wetlands.

I don’t have time to look through the other threads but I have a theory. This could also be due to all the Dateline episodes I watch. She’s famous and pretty so what if she had a stalker following her? The stalker could have also rented a boat and followed her? And then abduct her? Has anyone ever thought of that scenario?

R47, you made me LOL! I somehow missed that lovely lady in the swimsuit.

R56 and somehow the camera on the parking lot, the dock and the rental area totally missed them! You solved it!

R56, I was just reading Twitter and apparently there’s a video of a Jetski that was going in one direction, and it stopped and then started following her. I haven’t heard anymore about it but it might be a good idea to find that person and talk to them.

[quote]I assumed this was an accidental drowning but after watching those tourism videos where I see it's relatively safe to go in the water, am now leaning either toward suicide, though it could still be a freak accident.

The fact that she had a life vest for the son but she wasn’t wearing one makes me think suicide too.

[quote]R56 She’s famous and pretty so what if she had a stalker following her? The stalker could have also rented a boat and followed her? And then abduct her? Has anyone ever thought of that scenario?

No, that has not been mentioned.

(I believe) Her son says “she went swimming and didn’t come up.” You’d think he’d mention an abduction.

R56 I think that is doubtful but possibly a man that was in the area and saw a woman swimming alone...and the kid would have no clue what was going on in the water since he was probably on his ipad. More than likely she just drowned but with no body it will stay mysterious.

Was the kid wearing a blindfold?

R58 did those cameras show anything helpful?

Have the 15 year old KPop fans from Twitter found DL? Read the press conferences

Has Ryan Murphy said anything yet? Offered to buy the child some Disney stock? Said there’ll be a part waiting for her in his next production if she turns up alive? Otherwise his silence is astronomical.

[quote]R62 the kid would have no clue what was going on in the water since he was probably on his ipad.

At age 4?

Tablets make great babysitters...I mean...toys

I had no idea this Naya Rivera woman was so popular! She's on her way to filling three threads

R69 She is not but mysterious/unsolved deaths are dl catnip.

I hope they find her body to give some closure to the family.

Boat rental operation insisted the 4-year-old wear a life jacket and probably helped to put it on him.

Don't understand why anyone would want to swim in a very cold lake unless it's to go wading by the shore. An actress putting your face into less than clean water? Only natural lakes have constant water flow.

I'd like to know if she kissed and hugged her son before going into the water. Would the boy be able to reveal more under hypnosis?

How long does it take a drowned body take to start floating?

R12, now on your 5th G&T. Careful, tonic water can cause hives and other allergic symptoms. I found out when my over indulgence of G&Ts during lockdown left me befuddled by these welt like marks on my arm. I couldn't figure out what had caused it. Just by accident when googling for fancier tonic waters I came across the fact that some people can be allergic to tonic water.

Now I am more judicious when it comes to indulging.

Apparently it depends on the type of water but it can take a few days to a week R73 or perhaps longer. It’s possible NR’s body snagged on something under the surface and won’t naturally rise by itself, said the police. That said, it seems in all or nearly all reported cases online at this particular lake (Wikipedia has a summary), they have found the body sooner or later.

Realistically most bodies of water have... well... bodies in them, and inevitably she is dead, but I hope they find her.

Not sure if it’s already been shared, but here is who the KPop stans and other asserted Twitter morons think should be “trying harder”: volunteers searching by touch underwater because visibility is so poor.

How would you like to be one of those scuba diver rescue people that find dead bodies underwater? That’s got to be super scary to find a dead body in murky water! I would have nightmares!

Naya Rivera stans sound like the cult Oprah Winfrey used to push. They're convinced anything you wish will happen if you "manifest" it enough. How many affirmations would you need to repeat to bring back Naya alive and laughing?

I would be terrified too, R77. Those guys are so brave. Firstly to be underwater in those conditions and secondly to sadly be looking for a body.

If the stans want to help, then how about raising some money for those volunteers.

It would be best for her career if the body never turns up.

Something feels very off about this case. Is it normal to carry on big bags full of things for a three hour trip on a little boat on a lake? That water doesn't look inviting to swim in. The lake is out in the middle of nowhere with only a road halfaw around it (Google map). Why just the two of them with no friends or family? She was familiar with the lake so having a accident seems out-of-place. This is such a sad, mysterious case. If she wanted to end it, why in the middle of a lake & putting 4 yr old son in danger? And lastly, in this age of drones and invasive technology, it's amazing nobody saw a thing. Occam's razor - maybe she was drinking and accidentally drowned. Very sad story.

[quote]Would the boy be able to reveal more under hypnosis?

Girl, enough.

I think Top of the Lake has its third season opening plotline.

A three hour tour......

She's probably with that Malaysian airliner.

Yes r67. 4 year olds love iPads. No joke.

[Quote] Girl, enough.

Gurl, plea'.

I feel really sad about this, she was my favourite character on Glee and I absolutely love the version she did of the Taylor Swift song 'Mine'.

I don't think it was suicide, just a horrible swimming accident. I would love her to be found safe and well but it doesn't seem likely, so I think if that's not going to happen I hope they at least find the body and she can have a proper funeral etc. Poor son :-(

[Quote] just a horrible swimming accident.

Why would she go swimming and leave the child alone?

This reminds me of a Kennedy and her son who jumped into a canoe on the Chesapeake Bay to fetch a soccer ball and they drowned (apparently no life jackets were worn). And they had grown up swimming and canoeing.

Drownings are not uncommon. There have been a spate of multiple drownings at Far Rockaway Beach recently.

I can see her wanting to go swimming one last time before they returned the boat, and being overcome by the cold water.

When you hear hooves, don't go looking for zebras. Stick with the horses = accidental drowning.

It’s much more likely that she swam around the boat and left the child in it as a possibly unwise decision, or that they were both swimming and somehow she helped the child back into the boat, but didn’t have the energy to lift herself into it after being injured or pulled underwater somehow, than Rivera engaged in an elaborate suicide or planned murder-suicide plot.

Swimming / drowning accidents are fairly common and that someone has drowned or put themselves in a position to do so may look illogical at first glance, but usually tends to have a mundane explanation. Influence of alcohol, water colder than expected, they get stuck on something underneath the water and can’t free themselves, they experience a health issue in the water and can’t get out, or simply overestimate swimming ability especially in lake conditions.

R90 the Kennedy woman and her kid really died over a soccer ball?? Jeez. And I thought jumping after a dog was dumb (plenty of cases where sheepish and wet-looking dog eventually drags himself or herself to safety whilst caring owner has drowned in the interim trying to save said dog).

I've never been out in a boat but just thinking if those few people on the dock noticed anything off about these two, and don't the owners of the boat rental see fit to go patrol maybe once an hour to check on their boats and monitor for problems?

What was the temperature that day. It can get pretty hot on boats in the sun in mid afternoon. Possibly they got hot and jumped in to cool off and any number of things happened that led to her drowning. It sounds like the child says he was swimming too but got back on the boat.

Why should they, R93? Their service is to provide the boat and lifejackets. They rent these to adults who take the risk of using them, with their children if that’s their choice. Boat rental are not search and rescue experts, and undertaking to actively check on boats could expose them to liability as they have then assumed an extra duty of care and suggested they provide some kind of monitoring service. Best to say “boat rented at your own risk.” That’s life.

They checked on the boat when it didn’t come back after the agreed time and called it in, I think that’s all anyone can expect.

r93, you've never been on boat? In your whole life?

[quote]And the bottom-dwelling cods?

You can call me anything you want, but leave my wife out of this.

R96 well the Queen Mary? But no, not a moving boat. I have wanted to, but have always worked instead.

Def NOT going now.

Has this bitch been found yet?

Where’s Megan? Sending all thoughts and prayers 🙏

[Quote] It’s much more likely that she swam around the boat and left the child in it as a possibly unwise decision, or that they were both swimming and somehow she helped the child back into the boat, but didn’t have the energy to lift herself into it after being injured or pulled underwater somehow, than Rivera engaged in an elaborate suicide or planned murder-suicide plot.

The boat was unanchored. You would anchor the boat before jumping off to go swimming, no?

[Quote] don't the owners of the boat rental see fit to go patrol maybe once an hour to check on their boats and monitor for problems?

Did you see the diagram of Lake Piru?

[Quote] I can see her wanting to go swimming one last time before they returned the boat, and being overcome by the cold water.

The water suddenly became cold?

[Quote] no, not a moving boat. I have wanted to, but have always worked instead.

Are you suggesting that those of us who've been on boats are welfare queens?

I might, R101. My point was simply that a dumb swimming decision is more likely than suicide or murder. People do frequently commit suicide, but not this way.

[quote] The fact that she had a life vest for the son but she wasn’t wearing one makes me think suicide too.

The kid had a life vest on because he was 4. She took hers off because she was an adult and a swimmer who overestimated her abilities/underestimated the dangers of the lake.

And when people jump off a boat to go swimming, they more than likely anchor it.

[Quote] she was an adult and a swimmer who overestimated her abilities/underestimated the dangers of the lake.

But she was no stranger to the lake. Wouldn't the presence of her child and the absence of another adult make her more vigilant?

She jumped in the water to retrieve her phone, panicked, and didn't come back up.

My 2 cents.

[quote] Yes [R67]. 4 year olds love iPads. No joke.

True. But we have no reason to think this kid had an iPad with him on a boat in the middle of a lake, let alone that he found it so absorbing he didn’t even take an interest in whether mom was ever going to get back on the boat. Lord there are some dumb people posting here.

if she grew up going to that lake she would know that there’s no fucking lifeguard. AND you never leave a child on a boat alone even if they’re wearing a life vest. Maybe that familiarity gave her a sense of overconfidence.

[quote] But she was no stranger to the lake.

Yes, r108, which may have contributed to her overconfidence that she could jump in the water and be fine. And 99 times out of 100, she probably could have, but this time an unexpected problem obviously happened.

[Quote] we have no reason to think this kid had an iPad with him on a boat in the middle of a lake

We have seen pictures of the pontoon, one of which shows a white bag and various items, including an electronic device.

R110 Why do you think parents hand their brats iPads in the first place? It keeps them fully occupied and engaged. They don’t give a shit about anything that’s not happening on that screen and they don’t look up until it’s wrested away from them.

[Quote] which may have contributed to her overconfidence that she could jump in the water and be fine.

She was so overconfident that she didn't even think to anchor the boat before jumping in?

[Quote] if she grew up going to that lake she would know that there’s no fucking lifeguard. AND you never leave a child on a boat alone even if they’re wearing a life vest. Maybe that familiarity gave her a sense of overconfidence.

Your second sentence makes no sense in light of your first. Is one of them a quote?

[quote] She was so overconfident that she didn't even think to anchor the boat before jumping in?

Do we know for sure that she didn’t anchor the boat?

R115, not anchoring the boat doesn’t mean there was any nefarious intent here. Plenty of people experienced in boats / on the water make stupid decisions. Here’s a father who killed himself and his daughter and himself (and permanently disabled his wife) because he didn’t think it through. Officially, accidental death. You can ask, by grabbing the controls wasn’t he intent on killing them all?? Probably not, probably just being overconfident.

R117 we think the boat wasn’t anchored because it’s suggested in news reports that the boat rental people found it drifting, but various aspects of this incident are not confirmed yet.

I think you're overconfident about this overconfident narrative.

R120 I think the anchor fan is too attached to the lack of anchor.

She put her child into a life jacket, stuffed bricks into her bathing suit, and jumped off the edge.

can't they just drain the lake?

[quote]the owners of the boat rental see fit to go patrol maybe once an hour to check on their boats and monitor for problems?

What? Are they kindergarten teachers? How on earth is this their responsibility r93?

I agree with R109, she dropped her phone on the deck of the boat and rushed to grab it and hit her head and slid into the water. Something along those lines.

When your number is up, it's up.

[Quote] phone

[Quote] number

I see what you did there.

[Quote] she dropped her phone on the deck of the boat and rushed to grab it and hit her head and slid into the water.

The child said she jumped into the water.

How old are you, R93? Why is it the responsibility of a boat rental company to go check on a grown woman once an hour? They've got other things to do and they're not search and rescue. Do you also expect car rental companies to go driving around to check on their customers?

R128 Plus if they went and checked on a wonan of color and her child, they might get called karens/chads.

Seeing the video of her getting out of the car and how she parked her car over multiple spaces, I’ve lost all sympathy. Drowning in a lake doesn’t excuse you from needing to park within the lines like ordinary people.

[quote] can't they just drain the lake?

She’s not that big of a celebrity.

Instead of draining the lake can’t they just ask Chrissy Metz to jump into the lake? That’ll splash out the lake water real quick.

Child said they were swimming and when he climbed back into the boat she did not. He was found sleeping wearing an adult life jacket.

Why would you take a 4-yr. old out alone in a boat to swim in 30 ft. water?

Kid needs to be re-interviewed again with play therapist. Give him some toy figurines and a boat, tell him to play with them without leading him into anything. If he does something odd or interesting then ask him why he’s playing that way. They do that with child abuse or suspected child abuse cases.

[quote]Something feels very off about this case. Is it normal to carry on big bags full of things for a three hour trip on a little boat on a lake?

Implants aren't detachable, Rose.

She'd have been more visible if only she'd mastered the brack stroke.

Kids that age have very limited vocabulary, so who knows what he means when he said “she jumped in”. She may have very well fallen overboard.

Something else that sticks out to me is that the child said they were swimming but she did not get back on, with no mention of how the child got in the water initially and how he got back on the boat.

Could it plausible that she fell over and he went in after her and considers this a swim?

Hmmm...a week after commenting about Lea Michele.

Is she dead yet?

You queens are exhausting. You realize no one outside of TMZ, Perez, and DL are giving this any attention. The way some of you type, it's like Naya was the Pope. No one gave a second thought to this girl for the last five years. Give up the vigil and enjoy your Friday...Saint Naya would've wanted that.

R132 I said that in part 2 lol The poor homes nearby would get wiped out by the tsunami Chrissy would create.... so maybe lets make that plan B.

One thing doesn’t mean anything. The sum of many little things may mean something. We don’t know.

This reminds me of that responsible, educated Kennedy-adjacent who went after a soccer ball with her kid in a canoe on a stormy day. One poor choice after another.

Personally, I think it was self-destruction, but it could have been a series of dumb actions.

I think the anchor person has a good point.

The child could have pulled UP the anchor.

That’s why when they found him he was asleep; he was tired.

Kids that age can’t put right words to describe events. That’s why reputable law enforcement agencies will involve child therapists who do play therapy. Mommy went swimming and didn’t cone back may have completely different meaning when he’s playing with mom and baby dolls on a boat.

I think the child fell in and she went in after him. She probably used her last breath getting the child back on the boat. Bless her.

Sorry, i keep seeing this Foreign Broadway. What's that? Is it about West End?

Maybe she went into the water to pee and couldn't get back into the boat?

But then wouldn't she be in the same vicinity of where the boat was found?

How do you have a swimming accident? Do you all of a sudden have amnesia and forget how to swim? Frankly, it doesn't make any sense.

I still believe that another boater ran over her in the water. This happened to a friend of mine, so I know how common it is.

Glee has a curse. Cory Monwhatever, Mark Salling and now this woman.

R149 swimming accidents happen all the time, plenty of good swimmers drown especially in lakes in summer. There is no evidence anyone else was involved but I am sure the police will look into other boats that were on the water.

Maybe she was snatched from the boat by some predator. Young woman with a child would be an easy target. Why doesn't anyone think of that?

Exactly ow many friends have you had run over by boaters, R149? Just establishing the numerics of commonality.

R152 I guess you’re trolling, naturally the police have looked into that and have the evidence of a child who while he can’t give a perfect account at age 4, will likely be able to say whether they were alone (or indeed whether a boat ran his mother over).

R152 why wouldn't they take the child too?

Maybe a giant condor picked her up and flew her away.

Now you’re talking, R156.

Maybe it was spontaneous human combustion. In a lake.

She's obviously trapped in a bubble under the surface. The racist divers aren't looking hard enough!

Maybe a naval mine punctured a boob and she shot up into the hole in the ozone like a balloon.

[quote]will likely be able to say whether they were alone (or indeed whether a boat ran his mother over).

The child wouldn't necessarily know if a boater ran her over. If she swam some distance from the boat, or he was playing on the boat and not watching, he would have easily missed it.

She's stranded on a remote, undiscovered island in the middle of the lake.

r132 Like a cannonball, like a cannonball!

Perhaps, R160. But the police have suggested they have spoken to the child and that conversation led them to believe Rivera had drowned, so likely he saw her in trouble or saw her go under the water and not come back up.

R90 "a spate of" means multiple.

R161 now we are thinking outside the box. I hope someone has already tweeted the Ventura Sheriff to search for undiscovered islands (I bet they have).

[quote]She's stranded on a remote, undiscovered island in the middle of the lake.

If that bitch blows our cover after all these years.

An example of someone fit and healthy dying in a swimming accident in a lake. Went under the water, didn’t come back up.

Mermaids took her to their undersea cave.

She got turned into a fish by a gypsy witch!

What kind of mermaids dwell in a Ventura County reservoir?

The TMZ article reports that the child says that they both jumped into the water, he swam back to the boat and climbed on. She didn't. So it sounds like they were in the water together and either immediately from jumping or during their swim she went under. The child would be able to tell them if she resurfaced after jumping in or not.

And twitter is nuts. Lots of abduction theories right now. One tweet also said that it has been 24 hours - does anyone know how long someone can live underwater...

Lea sent her Flying Monkees!

Based on R171, I guess we're back to the definitely a shark then theory.

[quote]What kind of mermaids dwell in a Ventura County reservoir?

How does a 3-year-old swim back and get himself back on the boat? Kids this age are also great fantasists so you really need experts to interview the kid to get a semblance to what really happened. Not only will they ask him what occurred on the boat but earlier events in the day leading up to going to that deserted lake.

The lady of the lake took her.

R174, I can't believe Celeste Barber was there and didn't lift a fin to help.

[quote]How does a 3-year-old swim back and get himself back on the boat?

Don't lie about his age. The mother was the actress.

"Do you all of a sudden have amnesia and forget how to swim?"

Even good swimmers can drown in treacherous waters

I just hope when they find her she isn't Emma Samms.

R156, you may be onto something. Lake Piru is only some miles away from the Sespe California Condor Sanctuary. Plot twist!

I have mentioned before that this is the territory where the Zodiac Killer once struck.

AND, he was never found.

R147, the first rule about Foreign Broadway is not to talk about Foreign Broadway. But we're DL, so we beat a dead horse and keep joking about it. See the first Naya thread for the original mention of it.

Wasn't that closer to San Francisco?

r185, yes

It didn’t look like there were many other boaters that day. There was one truck in the lot, with a couple of golf carts, when she showed up. The view of the lake showed one other boat on the water.

In a more crowded body of water, I could see her being run over by another boat who didn’t see her.

Has anyone searched Aunt T’s house?

R152 is busy fingering herself at the thought of an abductor stealing away an adult woman in the middle of a lake.

He was probably there, trolling the lake for days, just waiting for an attractive vulnerable woman with a young child to abduct. I'll bet the poor woman's been sold into sex slavery!!! I'll bet she's being raped AS WE TYPE!

That's the direction R152 wants this thread to take so she can finger herself some more.

[quote]R185 Wasn't that closer to San Francisco?

LAKE Berryessa (Zodiac victims)

LAKE Piru (Naya Rivera)

Don’t tell me you don’t see a pattern - -

R 175. the kid had a lifejacket on and will be 5 in a couple months. Completely realistic that he could swim back to the boat and climb on. Chances are there was a ladder but even without one, kids are pretty good climbers.

Women used to kill themselves by drowning more frequently than they do now partly due to the romanticizing of water deaths in artworks like Ophelia and Lady of Shalott.

Behold citizens of Ventura, now you shall have your very own legend in the Lady of Piru. Legend has it that she is often sighted in the early afternoons with her ghostly mirage rising from the opaque waters. If the wind blows a certain way you can sometimes hear her cuss out a certain Ms. Lea Michelle

While this is of course a tragedy for her family and loved ones, the truth is is that that drowning remains and relatively common, but banal and unremarkable cause of death. All it took was for her to not be as strong a swimmer as she thought she was. It's as simple and and as ordinary as that.

I think in an age of medical miracles where longevity is almost guaranteed and even pathologised at the expense of quality of life, a lot of people have difficulty comprehending that people still simply just drown.

Zodiac Killer was in NorCal not SoCal

r188, as a Twilight Zone fan, I salute you!

Before it was flooded might there have been a well? Maybe she pulled a Baby Jessica?

^ OMG - it was Chy-na!

Was she up for the POC live action remake of the Little Mermaid? Is it all on elaborate Disney viral marketing scheme?

I think you’re on to something, r190. Very few first names have a Y in them and even fewer words start with Z.

Z is the next letter after Y! Are we supposed to believe that’s a coincidence? Seriously?

Now let’s move on to another likely scenario. There’s a very good chance that the thing she was carrying was a drugged lookalike wrapped in a white sheet.

She could tell the boat rental agents it was a cooler with snacks for the kid and they’d be none the wiser.

She gets out into the water; drugs the kid and the lookalike; throws the lookalike overboard to drown; sets the boat adrift; swims to the jet ski she had previously buried on one of the undiscovered islands and — boom! — brand new life in the Midwest.

Mark my words.

She is obviously going to re-emerge on foreign Broadway when it reopens in the Ester Williams biopic musical.

She dove, hit her head or got stuck in some reeds. Maybe drunk or on pills

R200, you've got the spirit!

[quote] Top that off with the breakdown she had with her ex a few years ago and I can’t help but to think this may have been suicide.

What breakdown? She had a few drinks too many, and she has a short fuse. They had a row and she smacked him.

She was troubled. (Aren't we all). Suicide can't be ruled out.

Drunk or high and fell over, or it was intentional.

The plastic surgery (that actually made her look much worse) can't be a good sign, and maybe she felt - in the world SHE lived in - that her career and everything else fell to shit. Who knows.

I don't believe she went swimming.

While all the theories mentioned above are very plausible, I have run them through my online spreadsheet brackish web matrix, and the only explanation for this tragedy is that Chrissie Metz went looking for her snack purse and ate Miss Rivera. It was too easy. She was in the water alone and vulnerable.

Is she related to Chita?

She was kidnapped by Antifa!

She was "troubled"?

She was a feisty lady with a temper. Probably indulged. Had some work done to conform to HW expectations as she understood them.

None of that equals "troubled". This word is closing on "triggered" levels of desemantization.

If she is, has Chita released a statement yet?

[quote]Maybe a giant condor picked her up and flew her away.

I shouldn't have laughed so hard.

R208 could be Naya typing from the bottom of the lake

She can’t be all that emotionally stable with her multiple plastic surgeries. New face didn’t look like her old face, she looked like a Kardashian clone. In photos her left breast implant looks deformed, possibly rippling. Some women get very depressed over botched or regretful plastic surgeries to the point of feeling suicidal mainly because they don’t have the money to fix bad work or they’re told that further surgeries are contraindicated.

Accidental or suicide but she did not appear to be an emotionally balanced person.

R205, you win.

I'm impressed R2. I bet not many people know Horatius at the Bridge by Thomas Babington.

What surgery did she have on her face?

Don't know if anyone else has commented, but I saw raw video from the security cameras. She pulls up, gets out of her car, then gets the kid out of the car. Both Naya and her son are both wearing backpacks. Fine. But what got my attention is Naya then pulls a large white sack out and slings it over her shoulder. it looked heavy. So did she have some diving gear? She and her son swam for a while, then she put him back in the boat. He has a life jacket on. I guess to make sure if he fell out of the boat he wouldn't drown? She dove in and she didn't come back. That's what he told the cops. So was she diving for some reason ? Got tangled, and drown? IMO she was doing something risky and stupid and paid the price. She should have had some other adult with her.

Twitter really does provide a glimpse into the full curve of the distribution of IQ scores.

I also can't believe more people aren't talking about how she parked her car in a nearly empty lot like she did. My theory is she was wrecked on something and drowned. She also had the Glee curse in her purse.

R218, her parking job was definitely terrible.

Finding Naya is one of my favourite drinks movies.

[quote] How do you have a swimming accident? Do you all of a sudden have amnesia and forget how to swim?

You get caught in a rip current, tangled in debris, or hit your head on something and get knocked unconscious, to list just a few of the possibilities. Is your knowledge of the world really so limited that you couldn't imagine any of these on your own (or by reading the fucking thread which has gone over all of them ad nauseam)?

R219 All that space and she chose that spot and then she couldn't even fit her car into it .

Keep looking for her!!!!!! She could be unconscious somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep looking for her!!!!!! She could be unconscious somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!

I bet whichever entity manages the lake will probably be making some swimming and boating access changes after this..

PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!

Jesus, don’t you people listen? Or do I have to come paddling up on shore and explain it to you? Let me just say she was delicious but I felt a bit sick the next morning.

I frankly am surprised they haven't found her body yet. Taking the bizarre circumstances into account, it does make me wonder if she staged this and went missing intentionally. I'll be eating my words when/if they recover her body, but the whole thing is very strange.

All this thread shows is how old DLers are. It’s scary how old some of you are and it shows through your comments. Wow.

Especially about the 4 year old with an iPad.... I can’t.

Indulging you for a minute, R228, if she did stage it, why would she put her child at risk? A 4 year old in an adult sized life jacket in the sun alone in a boat is a recipe for disaster.

[quote]R199 I think you’re on to something, [R190]. Very few first names have a Y in them and even fewer words start with Z....Z is the next letter after Y! Are we supposed to believe that’s a coincidence? Seriously?

THANK YOU! The police aren’t even [italic]looking into [/italic]the [bold]Lake Piru = Judge Pirro [/bold]similarity I’ve been pointing out to them. Repeatedly.

The case needs fresh eyes, like ours.

I still can’t believe that Unsolved Mysteries isn’t live streaming this whole thing, Netflix is really missing out on some great programming.

R209 You're not so young yourself, Dear

I hope they find her body soon because the amount of stupid pouring into the alternative theories is making me want to drown myself.

She probably got snatched by a gator.

She was probably dragged under by an angry hippopotamus. Not many people realize how deadly those things are.

R233 I’m 32. I’m around her age.

You’re like 60

The ageism on this thread is astronomical!

I think it was the ghost of Shelley Winters. She grabbed that poor girl by her tatted ankle and Mrs. Rosened her in the murky depths til she could breathe no more. And now she's sitting on her lifeless corpse, making everybody wait.

Oh, there's nothing worse than vengeful ghost!

The fact that there's a drain in that lake, absolutely terrifies me.

It's like a swimming pool, where you can be trapped in the suction of the drain at the bottom of the pool.

WTF??

An instagram psychic says Naya is somewhere green!!

Death by Falcon Crest, R240. Poetic.

[quote] An instagram psychic says Naya is somewhere green!!

Yeah, at the bottom of the green lake, covered in green kelp and green tree debris.

Real good, Einstein.

[quote]R199 Now let’s move on to another likely scenario. There’s a very good chance that the thing she was carrying was a drugged lookalike wrapped in a white sheet. She could tell the boat rental agents it was a cooler with snacks for the kid and they’d be none the wiser.

[quote]She gets out into the water; drugs the kid and the lookalike; throws the lookalike overboard to drown; sets the boat adrift; swims to the jet ski she had previously buried on one of the undiscovered islands and — boom! — brand new life in the Midwest.

I like your thinking. And keep in mind that as per legal social distancing guidelines, she very well could have been wearing a mask (rendering her undetectable.)

Perhaps she was trying to pull an Ellen Berent but it went horribly wrong?

R227

Sorry it’s all that fried Puerto Rican food that causes indigestion.

It really sucks for Search and Rescue that they announced her identity. Now they have to search for the body and deal with idiots screaming that "every second counts! Naya needs you!"

They better find her today, or a lot of people’s weekend lake plans are going to be totally fucked!

WE LOVE YOU NAYA!!! WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO FIND YOU! WE KNOW YOURE SCARED AND HUNGRY AND ALONE

BTW, is the lake still open?

No one suspects me! Tee hee!

I wouldn't want to be the one to find her

Has anyone checked the alibi of Mrs. Patsy Ramsey, formerly of Boulder, CO?

She would never have killed herself knowing how fat it would make her look when she's found.

R248

That’s no lake, it’s a nasty man made hole filled with dank stagnant water.

Calling it a lake is an insult to real lakes.

I bet the water is teeming with brain eating amoebas.

She was too much of a narcissist to kill herself.

The search needs to be opened up GLOBALLY! She could have hit her head and forgotten who she is and boarded a plane to Russia and is cold and alone!! Tropical storm FAY could be raining on her as she is curled up in the fetal position rocking back and forth in the Pine Barrens of New Jersey!

COME ON!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE POLICE! WHY AREN'T THEY SEARCHING HARDER????!!!!

R255 so send in the Twitter squad to search, they'll be fine

She could have been sucked into a pipe! She could be in someone's toilet right now. Quick, everybody go look in your toilets!

R190, Naya probably had a better shot at survival in Piru than Berryessa. Berryessa has this monstrous-looking thing ready to suck people down into the abyss!

Lake Como is the deepest lake in Europe, reaching 1,345 feet deep. Kind of creepy as it's not wide.

R253, they found a four year old alive and well. Now what do you think?

I would prefer it if going forward I was dead to you.

The ex husband is probably hoping he can move out of The Valley where that slut Brooke Logan is from since their kid inherits everything.

[quote] The ex husband is probably hoping he can move out of The Valley where that slut Brooke Logan is from since their kid inherits everything.

Did Naya Rivera actually have money?

As far as I could tell, she was pretty broke.

Would the body naturally settle towards the dam end of the reservoir? Especially if you open the flood gates a little and got the stream moving towards there?

R259, yes! Like Veruca Salt! Please! She could be anywhere in the California sewar system!!!!!

R260 That looks terrifying and would make me never step foot in a California "lake" ever

The Google told me bodies usually stay under water for one to two weeks, depending on the temperature of the water, which drives decomposition. So I don't know Lea Michelle's due date but this could get even messier.

I really don't understand why anyone would go swimming in one of those lakes with no life vest. But I also completely don't understand why anyone would commit suicide by drowning when there are so many other ways to do

Omg imagine Naya is found when Lea gives birth?! She will throw another diva racist tantrum.

[quote] The Google told me bodies usually stay under water for one to two weeks, depending on the temperature of the water,

Her body possibly getting stuck under thick vegetation makes things even more complicated. Hope she is found.

When did Cory die again ? That would also be a great day .

Update from the Sheriff. Enjoy the replies.

Today’s search at Lake Piru involves the use of sophisticated sonar equipment in the effort to locate Naya Rivera. We are being assisted by @TulareSheriff

@LASDHQ and @USCGLosAngeles There will be a media update at 3 pm.

I swim off the vineyards between Lausanne and Vevey Switzerland, where soon after leaving shore its over 800 feet deep. Kind of horrifying. I never do this alone. Not that a companion would save you if go under and don't come up, sinking hundreds of feet into a cold dark lake. I prefer the shallow parts of the lake but they warm up and then the duck mites start biting humans.

This woman had a death wish.

There are some surprisingly big fish in lakes, though I don't know about which fish in Lake Piru could bite.

They also have dogs searching the surrounding areas.

Please consider the kidnapping theory!!!!!!!!!!!!! It makes total sense. There was another boat going through the same direction that naya’s boat on the camera video

R273 THAT ISNT ENOUGH!!! NAYA NEEDS YOU!!! FIND HER

FIND NAYA RIVERA @aqronwhat Replying to @VENTURASHERIFF

@TulareSheriff and 2 others SEARCH THE FUCKING CABIN COME ON SHES PROBABLY THERE RIGHT NOW!

[quote]Her body possibly getting stuck under thick vegetation makes things even more complicated. Hope she is found.

So the Google told me about this. Basically, the body bloats and eventually the rot lets it break away from thick vegetation but the Google also said some bodies never come back up which leads me to conclude she won't be in a reboot or reunion either way.

Were there no satellites recording everything from outer space that we can look at?

Derrick, winner of BB16 is following this also.

The Naya Rivera situation is just not adding up for me. So many questions...

Certain parts of her will never decompose.

Tweet at @VENTURASHERIFF to check the surrounding houses and shrubbery near the house. Pls!! @VENTURASHERIFF #nayarivera

Then someone replied...

I’m sure the SAR knows how and where to search, and highly doubt they are monitoring Twitter do tips on how to do their job 🙄

Speaking of a will, have we looked into who would benefit by her missing and death?

True. If unclaimed artificial fun bags start floating around Lake Peru, that's a clue.

Those certain parts would probably be bitten and punctured by fish, who would take one bite and spit them out.

It's event like these where Twitter demonstrates it's actual worth.

R284, if her kid is lucky, she may have carried a lot of life insurance for him. Even if she was broke, at her young age, payments would be inexpensive.

[quote]An instagram psychic says Naya is somewhere green!!

She's appearing as Audrey in the Moorpark Playhouse production of "Little Shop of Horrors."

R286, those certain parts are made of durable synthetics designed specifically to withstand far greater pressure than that delivered by your average bottom dwelling fish. Please follow the science.

r132=Archimedes

"PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU INVESTIGATE THAT WOODEN HUT!"

Twitter is a gift, not a curse.

What houses do these nutters want to search ?

God the people posting on that sherrif thread are dumb. They should all be sterilized so they don't reproduce.

[Quote] Omg imagine Naya is found when Lea gives birth?! She will throw another diva racist tantrum.

It would probably be best for Lea to simply birth her single, and not say anything at all. However, knowing how bad she needs attention, I wonder if she is capable of that.

One out in the brack woods, R293.

She's somewhere green?

The foreign Broadway secret rehearsals for Shrek 2?

A rescue diver on Twitter just said this is most likely an accident. Most times it’s an accident and asked for people to stop assuming suicide. Most times in water it isn’t suicide.

Why can't we just have a drought so she can be found without draining the lake?

No time to read all the comments - has anyone mentioned the blind item on CDAN? I know, CDAN is full of shit, but in March he wrote about Naya whoring herself out. Maybe it was a suicide, just a totally fucked-up way of doing it, in front of your kid.

I saw a picture of the ex husband smirking yesterday. The pics weee in daily mail. Very alarming.

NR will become part of the thick vegetation by the time she's found R271

[quote] I know, CDAN is full of shit, but in March he wrote about Naya whoring herself out.

So, do you ever listen to yourself?

Everything in the Daily Mail is designed to be very alarming. That's their business model.

Why do people go to these man made lakes? They aren’t natural. Those are more dangerous than anything. There are fucking trees and debris in there.

I look forward to the inevitable tweets when she's found: "if you'd been faster, she'd be ALIVE!"

When in all likelihood, she was dead before anyone knew she was missing.

i'm checking twitter every 5 minutes for some good news, please PRAY FOR NAYA God will hear us and she'll be found 🙏 HER FAMILY NEEDS HER #nayarivera

[Quote] An instagram psychic says Naya is somewhere green!!

...they do say the grass is always greener on the other side...

Nancy Grace is all over this

Matt @xxnumb94 · 32m stated her boundaries: Check the land too. And after this drain that lake and never open it again

R309 Needs a catchy nickname .

I know where Naya is!

While there is still no news on Naya Rivera. There have been so many disappearances and drownings around that lake. With a Budget of about 186 million the local police should have been investing in equipment for moments like this. They lost so much critical time already #Findnaya

“At sea“ is not the same as “on a lake.”

Do these people really think Naya will be found after 66 days in a lake, with no boat, food, phone or water?

Something is wrong with the public school system.

When Nancy Grace wades into something you can rest assured that the simplest answer is, in fact, exactly what happened.

How is Spotify and Goya trending, but not a HUMAN LIFE. Naya Rivera is a singer; actress, mother, daughter, friend, sister, etc. but she is also a PERSON. KEEP NAYA RIVERA TRENDING UNTIL SHE IS FOUND. KEEP NAYA RIVERA TRENDING UNTIL SHE IS FOUND. #nayarivera #PrayForNaya

[Quote] the simplest answer is, in fact, exactly what happened.

You're for the condor story too, huh?

No, R319. It was obviously the ghost of Shelley Winters.

As a tribute to Naya, her family should release her text messages from the day of Lea's takedown.

Thanks in advance

Wow, it’s like some people believe that Twitter is a lifeline to her that can actually sustain life, like it’s an oxygen tube she’s living off of while underwater this whole time?

Will Lea show up to the funeral and pull a Diana Ross at Flo Ballard’s funeral?

Lea at the funeral...

[quote]Will Lea show up to the funeral and pull a Diana Ross at Flo Ballard’s funeral?

Maybe Lea will name her baby after Naya as a “tribute” so she will get some good publicity.

Somewhere that's green? Is the psychic Audrey from "Little Shop of Horrors"?

Wasn’t a scuba diver once scooped up by a water bomber plane when it was gathering water to extinguish a nearby fire?

Where there such planes in the area? Forest fires?

The sheriffs, police, and firefighters should look into this. (In fact, the firefighters will know if there was a reported fire.)

^ LOL.

[quote] if her kid is lucky, she may have carried a lot of life insurance for him

Now we're talking! She's alive in hiding, waiting for the kid to collect on the life insurance. Then off to Mexique and la vida loca!

Cancel all boating! Cancel all lake activities!

R215 Her old face was way prettier and she looked more black than her simulation of Kartrashian new face.

[Quote] she may have carried a lot of life insurance for him

I was wondering what she had in that big white sack.

R331 she is half black.

She’s always been very pretty. Even as a child.

Yikes, R331!

Entering Jocelyn Wildenstein territory.

R333 yes, she's always been pretty but IMO she was prettier before she messed with her face. Definitely a Kardashian wannabe

I think Rivera had a nosejob even before GLEE, so that's at least two rhinoplasty operations in total.

I live near a rather big lake (about 64 kilometres of shoreline and a depth of up to 73 metres), about 70 to 80 drowned corpses are retrieved each year (!), some of them have been in there for more than 25 years (bodies do not decompose from a depth of about 20 metres). Hopefully they find her soon. RIP.

R336 she never had a wide nose. And her hair is hers

r161 would that be in the middle of the lake above the surface or the middle of the lake under water?

Her nose was more bulbous here than on GLEE.

[quote]Maybe Lea will name her baby after Naya as a “tribute” so she will get some good publicity.

Naya del Lago would be nice.

R340 the bridge is the same but the bottom of her nose is def fixed.

Dianna Agron did a little sum'n sum'n with her nose as well.

After.

R343 for sure. Her nose is def different now.

She was another one who was always pretty, also.

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WHEN CARS GO INSIDE THE WATER UPSIDEDOWN THEIRS A AIR BUBBLE ON THE FLOOR!!! MANNIFEST MORE AIR INTO THE AIR BUBBLE ON THE LAKE FLOOR NOW!!!!

NAYA IS HELTHY AND BREATHEING BUBBLE AIR!

NAYA IS HELTHY AND BREATHEING BUBBLE AIR!

NAYA IS HELTHY AND BREATHEING BUBBLE AIR!

NAYA IS HELTHY AND BREATHEING BUBBLE AIR!

NAYA IS HELTHY AND BREATHEING BUBBLE AIR!

R346 is that her mom? She’s beautiful

All natural, bitches.

R337 that’s a lot of bodies! What lake is that you’re talking about?

[quote]Something is wrong with the public school system.

Wasn't the last presidential election enough to make you realize that?

r326 Points off for lack of originality.

What I don’t get is why the “lake” which is really a man made reservoir of dank water surrounded by not much greenery and without lakeshore beaches, is being described as a tourist spot. You want a top tourist spot as well as everyday recreational area that’s worth hanging out? Try Lake Tahoe between NorCal and Nevada which is a natural lake with different beaches and coves for all sorts of activities including swimming. Lake Piru shouldn’t even be called a lake.

I think part of the appeal of Lake Piru is not a lot of people go there.

The poor man made lakes are being ridden hard and put away wet in these threads.

R353, it's definitely not a tourist spot. It's a locals' spot -- mainly people with boats, canoes, kayaks, etc.

[quote] Maybe that familiarity gave her a sense of overconfidence.

I agree with this. People let their guard down in places where they feel comfortable/familiar. She had probably swum in that lake dozens of times -- this was just her unlucky day.

If she was under the influence--and that parking job is suggestive--it would increase the possibility that she misjudged the water.

I though it was strange how she wasn't eagle eyed about the kid after she took him out of the g-wagon or on their journey to the pontoon.

They probably asked the kid or should be asking him what were inside the bag, whatever it was seemed heavy. Were heavy objects found on the pontoon?

Something is wrong with the public school system?

But not the private school system that produced Trump?

There's nothing suspicious about the walking in the parking lot. Driving and parking, I'll give you that. But Why would she eagle eye the kid when they're walking in a practically empty parking lot? She would hear a car if it was coming. No need to hold a 4 year olds hand in that situation.

I said yesterday she was driving like someone who isn’t sober, but the thread’s view overall was bad parking can happen anytime.

But something about the decision-making in the footage suggests “intoxication”, drink or pills, to me. I’m just your regular recovering alcoholic and not an expert of course.

The way she parked her car is a red flag. It suggests that she might have been on something and possibly disoriented.

Have you seen that HBO documentary There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane? It might be a similar situation.

Many people suck at driving and parking

Her parking wasn't AWFUL, just a little off. And she was a few feet away from the kid as they walked. Perfectly reasonable behavior for a vacant lot with nobody around. They weren't walking around Venice Beach.

R365 Sure, but most of them don’t drown in a lake right after and we are here speculating about what went down.

I have never seen anyone try to park the way Rivera did in an empty lot. It’s the decisions she makes in that short clip as much as how badly she executes them (and I suck at driving and parking myself).

[Quote] Why would she eagle eye the kid when they're walking in a practically empty parking lot?

Young kids are apt to bolt. Even on the walk to the pier, he was behind her for much of it.

I agree she is not as physically close to a 4 year old as I would expect a mother to be when out in public, traffic or not they are very close to a large body or water and she should be holding his hand.

May I say I’m not judging her and not all parents are on top of their game 24/7, but if we want to see things that are “off”, they’re right there in the video.

Large body *of water yikes at that typo

Shouldn’t they be holding a vigil for her? Perhaps at the lake everyone six feet apart surrounding it holding candles? It can be part of the search and recovery as well.

One can only take "Valerie" for so long.

You all are old. I see young parents who walk and leave their small kids walking behind them and hardly look back

The worst part about her parking job, more than being outside of the lines, was that she had it right the first time if she'd have just stopped her car. Instead, she pulled out of the spot and backed up to where her car had literally just been. That's something a drunk would do. Made no sense, but maybe she's just not that bright.

Suicide.

[quote]r306 They probably should be asking the kid what was inside the bag. Whatever it was seemed heavy.

Kilos of cocaine and heroin are heavy.

This may well have been a drug deal gone wrong.

[quote] Something is wrong with the public school system? But not the private school system that produced Trump?

The public school system created the vast majority of idiots who voted for him.

R377, I do a lot of bad shit but I have nothing to do with her disappearance

DJT would never admit to doing bad shit

Was she drunk or on drugs? The way she parked her car doesn't look like the way a sober person would park. And then she leaves her 4-year old son about 20 feet behind her, even when she's walking down the borderless dock.

Sumpthin' ain't right.

Yeah usually you have your kid walking next to or just right behind you. It appears that she was distracted judging by the driving and walking to the pontoon.

I just want to know what the hell was in that huge bag she was carrying after leaving her purse and phone in the car.

It was like a beach bag r382. A towel, suntan oil, water, snacks, cigarettes, hairspray....

I know that if I had a 4-year old with me, especially near water, I'd be holding their hand.

And it's odd that she parked as far away as she did from the dock, when there were plenty of spaces closer to the dock. Looking at this, I'm thinking she was drunk or drugged out. She probably got high in the morning, then said to her kid, "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to go out on a boat today," then threw a bunch of shit into a white duffle bag and grabbed her car keys.

What was in the bag is the least interesting about this case, R382 and I'm sure R383 is right regarding its contents. Haven't you ever gone to the beach or spent the day around a body of water?

R377, why is the school system to blame for the fact that some people are just idiots? You can lead a camel to water...

[quote]Wasn’t a scuba diver once scooped up by a water bomber plane when it was gathering water to extinguish a nearby fire?

No.

She was abducted.

And there’s even photographic evidence!!!

R389 Damn! You just beat me to it!

It was a nearly empty parking lot so her parking is not that much of an issue. I see a lot of people parking weirdly because they don't want anyone near their car. I do wonder why she parked so far from where the boats were.

R392, my sister does that. But she straddles the line, doesn’t park diagonally. She’s paranoid about dings.

When we are going to a populated place, sometimes we will park near the entrance/exit, even though it’s far from the destination. When it’s time to leave, you don’t have to wait forever to exit. Of course, no one was even at the lake that day.

any body language expert here? i would think the way she parked her car, her mannerism around it and then walking away with her son could yield some clues.

I’m wondering why the comments about kids and iPads are “old”. Or why old people supposedly walk with their kids but young people don’t.

I’m “old” and parents let us do a lot more things and left us alone a LOT more. Parents now hover and helicopter.

These comments R373, R237, R229 are so rich coming from the fat tik tok troll a who claims to be 32 and looks 50!!

The way she parked the car indicates that she was meeting her drug dealer in the middle of the lake. She didn't have any money so she had sex with him on the boat, but she got too into his BBC and when she came, she lost her footing, hit her head on his boat, and fell into the water.

The drug dealer was pissed because he hadn't cum yet so be took the bricks of heroin, made the boy swear not to tell anyone, and sailed away into the darkness.

Give it a rest, r396; we aren’t interested in a.

We have morphed into a Websleuths forum here.

[quote]We have morphed into a Websleuths forum here.

Happens all the time on DL.

R398 her comments are vile and people need to know who is making them!

I look older because I am bald and partied too hard in my 20s. It caught up to me.

Yes, I am in my early 30s. But I don’t like 50s 🙄🙄🙄 calm down. The guy is obsessed with me. It’s weird.

As a parent, this case just interests me. Who would intentionally off themself on a boat with their vulnerable 4 yr old? I wasn't a fan but this feels tragic, even though stuff like this happens everyday. As always, DL sleuths will jabber on about what might have happened until we get more bad or good news. Then on to the next mystery.

Why can't psychics help more? This IS L.A. ya know..

Even people who work in the murder field etc. say this was not a suicide most likely. Yet DL is obsessed with it being a suicide.

No, r491, we really don’t.

From today's press conference. This guy has the patience of a saint to deal with the Twitter teens

^r401

[quote]Why can't psychics help more? This IS L.A. ya know.

If only he were still alive.

Find her!!!! Look in the huts!!! I'm helping!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Twitter teens are beyond belief! Love the idiot Kane who is earnestly collecting everyone’s insane ideas about where Naya might be, as though the search and rescue team is really going to go check these places out.

There is not enough coffee and donuts for the cops running the social media and the phones.

I don’t think she killed herself, but she was doing something self-destructive. If that makes sense.

Today a family member did something foolhardy that seriously endangered themselves and a child, and I kept thinking about Naya. A series of bad choices - not just one! - that could have killed them. They were just very lucky.

Has anyone asked Lana Wood for her thoughts?

"the disappearance of naya rivera is reminding me of natalie woods disappearance they both was on boats"

And our hard earn tax dollars are paying for this...

DId they recover her body yet?

The lake is plagued by whirlpools and columns of ice cold water hundreds of feet deep. Only very experienced swimmers should swim outside designated areas. She got swept away, end of story. No mother commits suicide and leaves their kid on a boat to die.

[Quote] Today a family member did something foolhardy that seriously endangered themselves and a child

Sitting either side of Chrissie Metz on a turbulent flight?

No, R416. I'll break water when your water breaks.

When you read the Twitter morons' comments, keep in mind that they can vote, have children, drive, and own guns.

When her body is inevitably found dead in the lake, the Twitter dopes are going think it’s the search team’s fault for not looking for her alive in some random cabin.

R414 And their first names both start with the letter "N." Do we know the current whereabouts of Robert Wagner? 🔍

Where was Judd Nelson?

Some of these twitter accounts are just eldergays having fun, no?

Seems to be teenagers, and a lot from abroad.

How are these teenagers learning about Natalie Woods (sic)?

LOCATE THE AIR BUBBLE [bold]NOW[/bold]!!!! THAT’S WHERE SHE IS BUT TIME IS RUNNING OUT!!!! IF SHE WERE WHITE THEY WOULD HAVE FLOWN BUBBLE-SNIFFING DOGS IN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD!!!! YOU KNOW IT’S TRUE!!!!!!

I don’t remember about the outcome of season one of Top of the Lake, is it possible that it’s a copycat murder and we can blame Elizabeth Moss and the Scientologist?

Murder conspiracy thread

R428, it’s so weird that I thought the show was excellent but I can’t remember the outcome. And I couldn’t stand the second season, and only watched one episode or so.

And the man-made lake reminds me of “The Returned” (the French original) which is creepy as fuck. (A valley town is flooded to create a dam and the dead return to the living and some other creepy shit). So I’m imagining the dam slowly receding and seeing treetops and a steeple and Naya being amongst it.

Have any shitwigs washed up?

r429, every generation has their wackoo conspiracy nuts, remember Paul is Dead?

For heaven's sake - there are more conspiracy theories about the death of this C lister than there were for JFK.

R433 Imagine if they'd had the internet then...

Clearly this “C” lister was beloved by many

Did she have a habit of boating out into the middle of nowhere and jumping into the very deep lake water with her 4-yr. old strapped into an adult life jacket for a dip?

She has been going to that lake since she was her sons age

Will DL Icon Melissa Beth Miller make her big debut in the Naya biopic?

R435 she seems to be a standard issue Instaho with her boob and ass posts and vague pop psychology Frau motivational comments.

R435 I doubt it is "love" driving the conspiracy theorists...

I'm guessing she was taking photos for her social media and fell into Charybidis.

R433 They were lucky and had the Zapruder film, all we get is bad parking and the stroll to the rental office and boat launch to work with.

Do we know if there was a box of day wine found on the boat?

[quote]Did she have a habit of boating out into the middle of nowhere and jumping into the very deep lake water with her 4-yr. old strapped into an adult life jacket for a dip?

According to many press reports I've been seeing, most of what you've asked is true. She grew up nearby and had been going there regularly for years.

R442 don't forget the JET SKI!!!!

Ugh. I love Marilyn

Sensible Teen Shaylee calling out the idiots

Everyone is going nuts about this Jet Ski now

A jet ski kidnapping “makes more sense” than jumping into a lake and drowning.

Sign the petition!!!!!!! (More than 8,000 people have). Etc.

WE’RE NOT DOPES, R421!!!!! SHE IS LITERALLY ALIVE IN THE CABIN RIGHT NOW!!!! BUT SHE’S WEAK!!!! AND CONFUSED!!!! AND LIKE DOORDASH LITERALLY DOESN’T HAVE “RANDOM CABIN” IN THEIR GPS TO LIKE DELIVER AVOCADO TOAST!!!!! OMG!!!! YOU WHITE PEOPLE (MYSELF EXCLUDED) ARE SO F***ING ANNOYING!!!!! OMG!!!!!

TIME IS RUNNING OUT!!!!! THE CABIN IS STARTING TO SLIDE INTO THE WATER AND WHEN IT DOES YOU PEOPLE WILL LIKE LITERALLY SAY SHE DROWNDED THE OTHER DAY!!!! GET HER OUT OF THAT CABIN [bold]NOW[/BOLD]!!!!!!!

[quote]Will DL Icon Melissa Beth Miller make her big debut in the Naya biopic?

She'd be perfect!

[quote] I wouldn’t think you could drown in a lake, but here’s an article about why it happens - and actually more than you’d think.

Holy fuck, we as a species are doomed.

Imagine being the poor guy on a jet ski who had no idea a washed-up (pardon the expression) actress was going to manage to drown in the same lake he was on that day.

He probably already gave a statement to the police saying he didn’t see much, and now he can’t look at Twitter without 16-year-old kpop fans calling him “sketchy”, accusing him of kidnapping and demanding to know what he did with Naya’s tote bag.

Here's another thing. I noticed on the video of them walking to the dock, there were several people walking from her boat to the center, maybe where people check in. I wonder if any of those people noticed anything notable about Naya and Josey before leaving on that boat. I'll bet they were each interviewed. I have a feeling all was pretty normal. On the video they looked relatively ordinary - it's not like she tripped or dropped things, etc. Each parent is different. Some parents let their children take the lead and others do the leading. This video looked like two people headed to a routine, fun outing. Then, maybe she just made a mistake and drowned. It would be great though if this story has a happy ending, but probably not.

It’s sad because someone died, but these threads are cracking me up.

Maybe the child had poo shoes.

I remember when I had an ear infection as a kid and I was crying screaming and then I fell asleep. Poor kid was probably scared sick crying and waiting for his mom that he fell asleep out of exhaustion. I remember that ear infection, of course the poor kid will remember this.

R447 I like the cut of the jib of that sensible teen Shaylee, I’m #teamShaylee all the way for this investigation keeping her fellow digital Nancy Drews in place.

Benoit Blanc! This is a job for him.

I called @VENTURASHERIFF Office about 3 hours ago and relayed the information about the little house @ 34.491815, -118.757692. The Sheriff's department informed me that they have personnel not only on the water but searching beyond the lake. #FindNayaRivera

She's dead Jim.

With all this craziness I’m wondering what this would have been like if this was happening at the height of the show’s popularity. At least we know if Lili Reinhart is feeling a bit invisible all she needs to do is go white water rafting and disappear for a day or two and the twitterverse will explode with #findLili radical fans questioning professional law enforcers on their search and rescue tactics and declaring #saintLili and #saveOurLili.

Beverly Cureton @tawanda8489 · @VENTURASHERIFF Look for Naya Rivera near trees and houses near off the lake. Bushes and wooden shack houses. You're probably find her out of Lake and somewhere nearby.

AND ONE MORE THING!!!! IF A BODY WEARING NAYA’S CLOTHING FLOATS UP TO THE SURFACE DON’T YOU [bold]DARE[/bold] EVEN THINK ABOUT SUSPECTING IT’S HER. YOU ARE LIKE LITERALLY DEVALUING HER LIFE AS A BLACK WOMAN IF YOU DO!!!!! DO NOT DO IT!!!!! WE ALL KNOW THAT IF SHE WERE A MISSING WHITE WOMAN LITERALLY NO ONE WOULD SUSPECT A THING UNTIL LIKE THE DNA RESULTS CAME BACK!!!!

AND ONE MORE OTHER THING!!!!!! IF THE BODY HAS A PENIS DO [bold]NOT[/bold] SAY IT COULDN'T BE NAYA!!!!!!! YOU LIKE ALREADY INTENTIONALLY MISGENDERED HER CHILD!!!!!!!! I SWEAR, I AM ABOUT TO LIKE F***ING LOSE IT WITH LITERALLY EVERY D*MN WHITE PERSON WHO ISN’T ME!!!!!!!

HANG ON, GIRL!!!!!!! WE’RE FORCING THEM TO FIND THE CABIN!!!!!!

Cureton? Cure a ton (of mysteries)?

R464 shes a woman of color but I wouldn’t call her a black woman.

I still think her getting run over by a boat or jetski is the most likely scenario.

wow, some crazy cunts in this thread.

[quote] Poor kid was probably scared sick crying and waiting for his mom that he fell asleep out of exhaustion.

But r457, wasn’t the kid so involved with his iPad that he didn’t even notice she was gone??

R466 her mom is black. She is of African-American, German, and Puerto Rican descent.[3] Her parents are Yolanda, a former model, and George Rivera.

[quote] I still think her getting run over by a boat or jetski is the most likely scenario.

Of course. And no one noticed this collision, the driver didn’t confess, and the vehicle was returned undamaged.

So she's now a striped bass?

So she’s half Black. Not just black. If most people saw her walking down the street they wouldn’t think “black”.

I still think Naya might have been chasing waterfalls and that the song might hold vital clues. Perhaps she was trying to recreate that dancing on top of the water stunt when she went under. There are references to a “mother and son” and “to the lakes that you’re used to.” In the video people vanish and can’t be seen. And the rap part has platitudes that could come straight out of her Instagram with phrases like “Believe in yourself, the rest is up to me and you.”

Her son is almost 5. He knows the basics of what happened. There is a witness to her drowning.

[Quote] So she’s half Black. Not just black. If most people saw her walking down the street they wouldn’t think “black”.

After this thread, they'd think "brack."

[quote] No, [R491], we really don’t.

Can I borrow your time machine?

Only if you report back as to when/where the body was found, r477.

WHITE PRIVILEGE IS:

—diving into the water and then coming back up again.

Poor kid is gonna be fucked up for life. mommy issues forever...

[quote] Only if you report back as to when/where the body was found, [R477].

Why don’t you use it for that, and then post an angry reply to r563?

"I don’t want to sound disrespectful, but y’all watch this video on Naya Rivera. The psychic predicts that her body will be found 6-9 miles away from the boat, she suspects foul play (maybe accidental) and she confirms there is in fact a Glee Curse."

Savage but true: "so if you haven't been keeping up with the naya rivera story there are currently hundreds of people on twitter flooding the police department emergency hotline to tell them to search a shack on the opposite end of the lake because an instagram psychic saw it in a vision"

She took some Xanax and Oxy and fainted in the cold water.

This is all kind of scary

“The psychic predicts”

Are there three more pathetic words in the English language?

Naya was on Family Matters back in the day. I always assumed she was black when she was little. When she appeared o Glee, she looked fully hispanic.

Has psychic Latoya Jackson seen any visions of Naya?

She always had beautiful long hair

After watching the video of poor parking skills I worry that the insane DL parking between the lines troll may have killed her. I hope he has an alibi.

Miss Warwick is setting up a 900 line as we speak.

[quote]Sensible Teen Shaylee calling out the idiots

If she were that sensible, she'd change her name to something other than Shaylee.

I really think her very talented former cast mates should organize and be at the lake to do renditions of their popular songs to entertain and keep up the spirits of the search and recovery team during their rest breaks.

R493 Hi Lea. Planning to give birth on the shore?

How many castmates do I have to curse before any talk of a reboot is dead??

SEARCH THE BRACK SHACK!

They haven’t defunded their police there yet, have they?

Also, can someone please explain the iPad thing to me? I asked and haven’t received the answer. Is it ridiculous because no one would bring an iPad on a boat? Children don’t like them? Only old people have them?

R496 Not sure if you're serious but tablets are the new stuffed animals. Small children love to play games and watch videos and parents love the free babysitter.

The Brack Shack is a little old place,

where we can get together,

Brack Shack, baby, Brack Shack

Excluding Lea as just being way too obvious, if one of the former cast mates is really a serial killer and doing away with the cast one by one, who do you think it might be? My money is on Brad the piano player, he was always way to quiet and off by himself.

How hot was it on the lake the day Naya disappeared? Had she brought enough water in her over sized bag? Very easy to dehydrate and then to feel dizzy, especially if you've been taking pain killers or any other meds.

[Quote] Brack Shack, baby, Brack Shack

Silver fillings! Rusted!

Are we sure the psychic meant “shack” and not “Shaq?”

This shit better be over by the time I have my baby.

R499 the Black guy they wrote off in Season 1. He was denied fame and fortune and he will have his revenge, goddamnit!

R504 is he the one offing all the original cast?

This can be made into a season of American Crime Story

[quote] Is it ridiculous because no one would bring an iPad on a boat?

No, not at all, but it is a little ridiculous to think (as someone up thread suggested) that a preschooler alone on a boat would not be watching and waiting for mommy to come out of the water and wouldn’t notice her getting kidnapped or run over by a boat, all because he was THAT into his iPad. I mean, sure, little kids love them, but I think most are just slightly more attached to their mothers.

Poor black guy was written out to introduce new character Sam.

And he got dropped for a... white man.

He’s really pissed.

[quote]Excluding Lea as just being way too obvious, if one of the former cast mates is really a serial killer and doing away with the cast one by one, who do you think it might be?

The retard, Becky Jackson.

[quote]she suspects foul play (maybe accidental)

Accidental foul play? That's a contradiction in terms.

Don’t they have cadaver dolphins or seals they can release in the lake to find her?

[Quote] Excluding Lea as just being way too obvious, if one of the former cast mates is really a serial killer and doing away with the cast one by one, who do you think it might be?

DL's sweetheart, Jonantha roff, of course.

Whirlpool. Weeds. She was sucked down into the abyss that was tangled with weeds and branches.

Don’t they have cadaver dolphins or seals they can put in the lake to find her?

How much sage is Lea burning around her house to ward off vengeful spirits?

Hollywood truly is devoid of creativity these days. Natalie Wood did this thirty-nine years ago, in 1981.

I want to volunteer to personally condole Jacob Artist.

R516 I found him way hotter than both Puck and stupid Blake Jenner, who seems to be loved around here for some reason.

Can we get #neverbefoundisnotanoption trending on twitter?

Or #lakePiruisadeathtrap

R503 when do you think I plan to resurface?

What an ugly lake!

R521 Don’t lake shame Naya!

r520 the minute Lea Michele gives birth!

As we get close to part 4, I hope who ever creates it adds a picture this time. May I suggest this wonder, hopeful image of Naya as a mermaid?

Killed herself. It’s obvious. Sad but she probably wanted privacy in her last hours

[quote]Of course. And no one noticed this collision, the driver didn’t confess, and the vehicle was returned undamaged.

It was a hit & run accident and that's why nobody confessed. This happens more than you think.

The other boat wouldn't be damaged from hitting her body. And there's nothing to return if the boat is owned by someone.

As seen in the surveillance footage, the lake was mostly deserted, so there was no one around to witness the accident.

And they did all this and got away without being caught on camera or leaving any physical evidence on the shore!

Well, R526, when her bloated body finally floats to the surface, we'll see if it's sustained damage from an impact or propeller.

Personally, I suspect a foreign faction.

R529 From foreign Broadway?

It’s a man-made lake. Either developers mowed the flora/fauna down, and the water wouldn’t perc anymore, or they did it on purpose to hide the ugly they left behind.

Either way, the tree stumps and tree roots likely impaled her below the surface. It’s not even an attractive man made lake, why would anyone want to swim in sludge?

Jesus......DL has been totally infected with "NAYA!" fans....and people TROLLING the Naya! fans.

If they had only defunded the police this would never have happened!

Rest in POWER, girl!

Bwahahaha R260.

They actually call it the "Lake Berryessa Glory Hole!"

I wonder what queen came up with that name?

R517 it helps that Jacob isn't an abusive piece of shit like Blake is.

[quote]And they did all this and got away without being caught on camera or leaving any physical evidence on the shore!

How would they be caught on camera? If the whole lake was watched by surveillance cameras, then we would already know what happened to her.

What makes you think there would be any physical evidence to be left onshore?

On a low-traffic day, many boaters don't pay close attention because they think nobody else is out there.

Wasn't she the only one to out-cunt Lea Michele? I don't really know much about her, but I admire her for that much, if true.

Naya's been in the biz since she was four or five; too many commercials to mention. And she wrote a self-help book shortly after Glee wrapped. So there's that.

I hope I’m counted in the former, R532, because I AM LITERALLY LIKE MANIFESTING SOOOOOO HARD FOR NAYA THAT I’VE [bold]ONLY[/bold] TAKEN LIKE 32 BREAKS FROM CRACKING THIS CASE TODAY, AND THEY WERE LITERALLY [bold]ONLY[/bold] TO MAKE BLACKPINK DANCE-CHALLENGE VIDEOS!!!!!!! NOT FOR LIKE FRIVOLOUS SH*T!!!!!!!

This is making me nostalgic for DL’s field trips, but Lake Twitter is too big for us.

#OneMilionNayanauts

Her death is suspicious.

Gee I wonder if anyone has looked outside the lake as well.

I'm going out to Lake Piru tomorrow to have a good look around. I'll report back tomorrow night.

Make sure you check the Brack Shack, baby, R542.

Go rent a Pontoon, R542!

SHE’S STILL OUT THERE, R542.

Check these coordinates PLEEEEEEASE R542

Naya Part 4

Do you think they've searched the Bellagio fountain yet? It's highly likely that there's a human-trafficking tunnel connecting it to Lake Piru, playground of Hollywood's devilish elite.

Remember the big tube Augustus Gloop got sucked into? I think it's exactly like that. Plus, the occasional fat victim backing things up would explain all of their plumbing problems.

YouTube Tarot Queen is ON THE CASE

Ryan Murphy and Lea Michele reportedly were so terrible to Naya. I wonder if raciism played a part. She seemed like a nice person and didnt deserve that.

...............

Doesn't look like they found this dude. His name is a bitch so I'm not google'ing him.

I'm hoping nothing happens to Harry. He's so handsome.

[quote]R406 From today's press conference. This guy has the patience of a saint to deal with the Twitter teens

The comments really are funny:

————— Emma: Have they figured anything out yet about the person and the jet ski? The person was in the water the same time as her.

Lys Hibiscus: They said they interviewed everyone who was out on the lake at that time.

Lana del rey stan: they said in boats, didn’t mention people on jet skis.

Lys Hibiscus: [italic]Yeah probably because they didn’t realize they need to spell out every f-in baby detail of their protocol. What, you thought they looked at the people on the lake and said “oh that person not on a “boat” just a jet ski, won’t interview them”!?

Not only was he found, R552, he was found using a method the Sheriff's Department hasn't even bothered to try. It's an outrage!

BAKE NAYA'S ZECHUS NOW!

[quote]Sources told YWN that approximately 5:00AM on Monday morning, a group of 10 Rabbonim gathered on a boat on the lake, and performed a Segula in the hope of finding the body of Naftali Z”L. Apparently, a flat bread was baked in his Zechus, and the bread was set afloat on the lake with a lit candle on it.

[quote]Certain Tehillim and other Tefillos were then said until the bread stopped moving. At that precise location a stone was dropped into the water, and shortly later the body rose to the surface!

The Naya-stans on Twitter are truly fucking unhinged. ....

R542, If you’re serious, and I hope you are – please report back to us!

This is very sweet, what a nice thing to remember her for doing.

The Twitter stans have it figured out

Bye bye Naya and thread 3

Has it been revealed who she last spoke to?

Did friend and family know she was planning to go to the world famous and hit of all Cannes. THE Lake Piru?

How big is the lake, and why can't they find her, if it's an enclosed body of water?

What has the child said?

Word for word I want to hear it

^to whom she last spoke

I was typing like a vulgarian

This is actually creepy how at least two adults drowned in Lake Piru whilst the children were fine. No wonder why nobody goes there.

What? Who else drowned?

Were they more or less famous than Rivera

it matters

don't say Chita

I did some digging and a lot of the looney stans seem to be Brazilian. I don't know what it is about Brazil, but if you look at any celebrity's social media, you're almost guaranteed to see a flood of Brazilian stan comments. What's in the water there?

R564 see R552

From Naya's memoir, about Mark Salling:

“Similar to how I feel about the whore years, I think everyone should have that one relationship where you look back and ask yourself, “What the hell was I thinking?” You’ll learn something and you won’t regret it. Unless, of course, that relationship was with someone who had a sizable stash of child porn on his computer. Then, by all means, regret everything."

HA!

Thank you R566 , chivalry is not dead - I shall read it toot suite.

EEEEEK! Not Naftoli!

Oh, you cruel lagoon so blue!

Naffy's body was never found, which makes you ponder what lies beneath all that placid sea.

So, she's a mermaid?

Did they find her body yet?

Who will think of the children, R563?

I will think of the children.

R568, it was found a week later using the standard method of bread and candles. See R555.

She’s fine, she sends her regards.

I haven’t seen online a missing person case at Lake Piru where the body wasn’t eventually found. I mean, I only spent a LITTLE time on it...

For some time Wikipedia did not record that Naftoli Smolyansky’s body had been found (perhaps because of the odd nature of some of the reports of how it was located, which may or may not be true), meaning it looked like it perhaps hadn’t been, but they found him. In all the cases listed on the Wiki entry for the lake, they have found the body sooner or later.

I believe the likelihood is the body will turn up, but unlike other cases, they seemingly don’t have accurate witness testimony as to where in the lake she might be. Rivera’s son is old enough to have seen his mother in trouble in the water and get a sense of that but possibly not to say whereabouts on the lake they were at the time.

Put Detective Courtney Love on the case...

I love the comments on Twitter that “something is off about this case” as if it’s the mystery of the year.

I know drowning is a pretty basic way to go, but mother and child go out on boat on lake, child tells police they were both in the water and mommy didn’t make it back into the boat — that means only one place mommy is. It’s very sad, but she has drowned, and no doubt it’s one of the simpler missing person cases the police will get this year.

The lake is a big body of water and not easy to search, but we know where Naya is, roughly-speaking. I do hope they find her so she can be laid to rest.

Not that any of that would stop me posting in these threads, obviously, or continuing to judge people on Twitter.

R576 but did you look at the jet ski???

I did a social media dive and both parents seem to spend a lot of time on water with the kid. That's probably ruined now.

I wonder if Corey and Mark were waiting for her in the 'limbo/before heaven and mass judgement/ethereal waiting room realm' - mighty awkward at least with Mark.

No life jacket, cold water with debris = accidental drowning. Maybe the Rabbonim who found Naftoli Smolyansky can be hired to say some Psalms ( Tehillim) and then perform the bread and candle miracle to find Naya. They have are at least likely to find her as are the search and rescue team.

I would think a team made up of Naftoli's body prayer group plus the psychics would get results . Even it it just annoys the spirit of Lake Piru enough to spit her out .

Tahj Mowry

Most of those people on Twitter are American.

others have drowned in that lake, were their bodies recovered?

Yes, R583. In all the cases at this lake listed on Wikipedia, the bodies were recovered.

Almost three full threads!

How many threads did Cory Monteith and Mark Salling get when they died?

Well?

Neither of them were carried off by a condor.

Has Lord Tubbington commented yet?

[quote]r498 if one of the former cast mates is really a serial killer and doing away with the cast one by one, who do you think it might be? My money is on Brad the piano player, he was always way too quiet and off by himself.

Also, there must have been a seething inner rage that he was never center stage??

And the autotune for all the singers must have irked him.

R577 no way! I loooove the water!!!

Women and children love the water! You can't keep them away. Trust me, I know.

Still laughing over that Tweet: I didn't know you could drown in a lake.

yum-oooooooooooo

Still no mention of the large white sack Naya tossed over her shoulder walking to the boat with her kid? The raw video shows them pulling up into the nearly empty parking lot. (OK, maybe 6 cars?) and they both are wearing back packs. Then she pulls this large sack out of the car, slings it over her shoulder and they walk to the boats

Why are people so fixated on the white bag. Who cares what was in it. What would have been strange is an absence of things associated with your typical outdoor activity.

People put supplies and things in bags the end.

R581 Tahj was Naya's first boyfriend, on and off sweetheart, and dumped her for good because her family was poor. They never had sex.

her body won't be found because she's faked her death!

She knows the place well having visiting since she was a kid.

Check her bank and credit cards. Deep in debt I bet.

R594 Towels need big bags duh.

So there were three bags of stuff?

r595 and because he's gay

Sorry, but Tahj's words mean nothing. He never would have dared speak them as long as she was alive to answer back.