Todrick Hall - Sexual Racism

He's exhausting and doesn't pay his staff. End of story.

So I prefer BBC. I suppose that's going to be canceled too now. Fuck!

It’s always the snow queens who cry the hardest about “sexual racism” in white gays.

Doesn't he only fuck white guys and tend to go heavy on white queens for background in his videos?

Link to post Todrick mentioned

What R3 said.

Todrick? That might have something to do with the revulsion men feel.

Who names their son Todrick? Have a talk with your mother, Todrick.

He’s thirsty for Shawn Mendes

Don't want black cock: I am a racist who hates black men.

Do want black cock: I am a racist who objectifies black men.

Based on racial preferences a larger percentage of black guys go after white guys than the opposite. Now two wrongs don't make a right, but black gays have to learn about this as much as white gays, and when I've hooked up with black guys most of them bring racial fetishism up.

Todrick might not be the right messenger, but it’s true that many white gays who use the “preference” card to reject men of color in bed also shun them in their social life.

It goes way beyond “preference”.

I simply don't get this type of racism. For me, there are hot men of every heritage and phenotype. It's just such a weird hang-up for me!

Sure, I have greater preferences for some types of men, but these types don't necessarily match my own phenotype. For instance, genetically, I'm Northern European (live in Central Europe), but appearance-wise I like Mediterranean or Central/South American men... or Asian men... or Northern African men... or Israeli men... and so on (too many to choose from)!

HIs BFF is taylor swift, he told his now ex assistant he dresses to ghetto and he only dates white guys....HI POT, I am Kettle.

Didn't the ex assistant say he was eating Todd out regularly because he ass was getting so fat? Todd gets plenty white dick so he can't complain.

R14

But not his DREAM man Shawn Mendes

Screeching Queens and Trannys who trumpet about sexual prejudice strangely never want to sleep with their own “gender” or race.

Shawn looks like a horse.

Honestly, if you’re hot, most gay men don’t care what race you are. I think that some of the guys think it’s racism, but it’s actually because they are ugly.

I think that when you try to tell others that they should only date members of their own race is when the problems start. If you aren’t attracted to people of another race, hey, your choice. But don’t tell someone else that they should too. Or discriminate against someone and their partner because said partner is another race.

What ever happened to his ex-assistant he was doing only fans and twitter porn - had a nice dick but not as big as he claimed

He's a great performer, but I've heard from multiple people that he doesn't even look at you sexually if you're not white.

That's fine, but then don't cry sexual racism when you're doing it yourself.

That being said, sexual racism definitely does exist.

r21 I agree it looks bad when the ones that complain the most are chasing white exclusively. That being said, everyone should have the experiences white gays usually are seen having universally. That's the point of having a gay community. A black or asian dude should be at these circuit parties, private orgies, and elite sugar daddy trips as well. That's all I'm asking for, just have the chance to be seen like a quintessential Sean Cody, Corbin Fisher, Gayhoopla(2013-2015), helix studios model and to fuck them as well.

It sucks to be put on the sidelines involuntarily because of something out of your control and equally shitty to be coming into a community that presents itself as inclusive and full of differences when it's anything but. Especially for those that don't really have much of anything or anyone due to their gayness in minority groups that are traditionally more conservative compared to the rest, at least in the western world..

This rhetoric is just woke incelism.

Just into white dudes.

Sorry not sorry.

He has a nice body and ass. He needs to just fuck, get fucked at shut up.

I guess on some level it's bigotry to just write an entire group off - but some people in every group and subgroup have sexual preferences based on race, ethnicity, etc. - including black people.

Plus, the result is "denial" of sex - it's not like whatever group is not preferred by a person is being denied housing, jobs, civil rights, the same mortgage rate for the same income and credit profile.

R16, Never. Never. The hypocrisy of it all. Its unnerving. Its akin to straight ppl saying how dare you be gay. These ppl are just narcisists and using the race card to get the dick or attention they crave.

RuPaul dumped him, professionally, right?

He hasn’t been a part of any of the Drag Race seasons since some of the queens accused him of being a grifter.

Pretty soon we will be forced to marry blacks the way we were prohibited from doing so just a few decades ago.

He's migraine inducing!

He probably wrote that because some white guy rejected his sexual advances and he had a meltdown.

Which is odd, because Todrick has had and gets plenty of white dick and ass. But, he seems self-obsessed enough to go off about being rejected by a specific white dude.

r26 read r22. It's centered around sex yes, but not exactly directly.

Having preferences doesn't necessarily lead to exclusions.

Where’s my emotional support peacock? Reading this thread is exhausting.

I'm open minded exceptif you reek of garlic or curry.

"That's all I'm asking for, just have the chance to be seen"

No it's not. Everyone knows what you look like. Everyone has had interactions with Asians, blacks, whites, etc. Some people aren't interested. Deal with it. Why are you so obsessed with being accepted by anyone? Get a fucking life!

R22 ^^^

He should go suck Taylor Swift's clit more and piss off.

r37 Lol I thought it was all about acceptance in the gay community. If it's not r37 then what's the point of the community? It's basically teh same drawn lines in American society but everyone's gay. Ok, then obviously the community failed. TIme to abort.

And r37 if you want to refute American society, and it's race relations then obviously your ass is shown about the type of person you are.

It's always the white gays saying "stop complaining" hilarious. And yes I know one of the white gay replies will lie and say they're black just to add nuance to the conversation and make it look like what they are saying is correct. Nice but I know these internet tricks easy.

First of all this term ‘preference’ is used incorrectly on purpose because it makes what they’re doing sound less nasty. A preference if used correctly would mean someone likes all groups, but maybe has a special preference for one particular group. However what these nasty gays do is exclude whole groups because of their skin colour and to make it sound less nasty say “oh it’s just a preference” (so casual) when that’s not at all what they mean.

If it was a real preference it would be a positive enthusiastic sort of behaviour rather than what it actually is which is a sort of racially exclusive behaviour. Girrrrrrrrrrl?

SLAVE PLAY!!!

R42, I'm black and I tend to agree with many here even if they r slightly racist.. Most of the black queens who cry about this aren't attracted to their own race. They aren't attracted to Asians either, lol. The shit true.

Let's talk about "Racial Incelism".

I don't really complain about this r45 like how they do. I am just pointing out that there are inherent advantages and disadvantages given to white gays in the community. It's maybe sex based, but there's a lot within that realm of sex beyond just fucking people. That being said after dealing with other racist issues outside the bubble of gay, I don't really care. It's one of those things I know sucks, but have to forcefully swallow because it's just a part of the systemic racism ingrained in American society. Thought gay men could rise above that, but nope.

You're never going to get anyone hot to fuck you by playing on white guilt, Todrick.

Too bad--so sad!

[quote] Honestly, if you’re hot, most gay men don’t care what race you are. I think that some of the guys think it’s racism, but it’s actually because they are ugly.

I’ve heard white queens say that Tyson Beckford is ugly.

I think that it’s racism and jealousy.

This reminds me so much of the black E! correspondent who berated all white gays, including his own group of friends. (Post linked below.) Like our dear Todrick, he's as snow queeny as they get. The irony is hysterical. I also work with a black guy who exclusively dates white guys, and then complains that they fetishize him. (My ex was Filipino and admitted to me that he only dated white guys, so was he fetishizing me?)

It can be really reductive & harmful to black people. Example: knew a black guy in our mostly white social circle. He was a successful app developer with his own company, and was also quite attractive. The white gay men in our circle were sometimes pretty lecherous and reductive, often to his face. Like, I don't even think they knew how weird it was. When we were out socializing as a group, no one would ask him about his work (which he was passionate about and had a ton of success with), they just wanted to man-handle him after a few drinks.

Problem is a lot of the no chocolate, no spice, no rice, no curry etc. Fags are huge racist dicks about their preferences. Like we don't want to fuck you either yet we aren't making big racist queeny statements about it.

Let's talk about the homophobia of str8 black men for a change.

What does homophobia of str8 black got to do with out and proud gay/bi black men getting discriminated against? If anything you want to listen to gay black men since they experience both the homophobia from their str8 peers and racism from their gay ones.

The thing is, even if this is true (which I think it is to an extent, but overstated), what are you going to do about it? You can get people to change the way they express things but ultimately, you can’t force someone to have sex with someone they don’t want to have sex with.

I’m not attracted to women.

I guess that makes me a sexual sexist.

Sexual racism doesn't exist because "no means no" and people have the right to date, have a relationship, and engage in sex with whomever they want for any reason they want OR NOT to date, have a relationship, or engage in sex for any reason they want (as always all usual consenting adults caveats).

The ONLY person you harm by excluding people for idiotic reasons is yourself. You do NO harm whatsoever to anyone else by refusing to date or engage in sex with another person, no matter what messed up, racist, or ridiculous reason you may have.

Now, of course, such attitudes are never held in isolation. So, if you want to make the argument that this attitude would, of necessity, spill over into employment and other areas where such behavior is abhorrent or impermissible, that's a whole separate matter.

But, if we're limiting the discussion to "sexual racism," then such a phenomenon does NOT exist.

It's much easier to frame this as a function of systemic racism or white privilege because like the above white gays get massively defensive because they feel it's a personal attack on themselves. Which is a predictable reaction. But also because white gays generally will have a better sex life or at least one with more choices because of the "preference" of European beauty standards.

I guess us talking about it can be a victory in itself even though there are three DL above that tried to shut down the discussion.

It’s all possible rape, until a black Trans man wants your Cis male white cock.

R56 for the sake of the argument within this thread I’ll accept your constraint that we’re not discussing how it bleeds over into hiring / housing / healthcare / all other areas of life (Altho it of course does) and keep it limited to hooking up.

First of all nobody is suggesting that any individual person be forced into having sex with someone that they don’t want to.

I generally agree that the main person you’re harming is yourself as long (and this is the most important thing here) as you don’t say it out loud, or in print on dating apps, or on your Twitter account. But of course the white gays will refuse to keep their mouths closed. As a group voice this is a degrading and racist force (in that it’s directed towards racial groups (typically minority racial)). To deny this suggests you have another motive, it’s so self evident.

Next thing, even in isolation, if the reason you don’t want to hookup with a black guy or an Asian guy is because of their race then yes you do hold a certain amount of sexual racism within you. It would be better for people to confront these situations head on rather than to deny them and be duplicitous about it.

We live in a world where racism exists (within us all to a degree I think - and this is a result of the environment within which we are raised) and people should be willing to engage with the issues in order to heal our problems.

I think it is when you tell other people not to date outside of your race is when the problems start. If you don't like to date/hook up with other races, that's fine. But don't tell your friends or relatives not to. As mentioned upthread, your idiocy affects you and you only; you should not inflict it on anyone else.

[quote] What does homophobia of str8 black got to do with out and proud gay/bi black men getting discriminated against?

Who do you think is doing it?

No one is obligated to have sex the way you tell them to.

The Australians are causing all the problems.

This is how Bill Cosby got away with raping lesbians while Michael Jackson was falsely accused of raping little boys.

Is this a discussion that goes both ways? Or are white gays going to be gaslight into accepting that it is okay for people not to want to sleep with them?

Who I'm attracted to is different in any given situation. I HAVE been with multiple black men, multiple white men, an Asian guy, and a guy fifteen years older, and a foot shorter than me (I'm 5'4", and he is white, but I'm throwing it in for the sake of inclusion). I won't be ever shamed or guilted for my attractions to particular men, or for the fact that I'm more attracted to some types over others.

Who I'm attracted to is also nobody's goddamned business but my own.

I have a brown preference. I prefer Middle Eastern, South American/Mexican, Indian subcontinent, North African guys. Am I a racist?

[quote] Or are white gays going to be gaslight into accepting that it is okay for people not to want to sleep with them?

Wait. What?

I haff orange preference.

r69 I think the last six posts have all been from the same "offended" white gay. He even dog whistled black men as a monolith or at least was implying.

I am ashamed to admit how much I loved GOOD TIMES when I was a kid. Walker is a disgusting pig. I wonder why the obviously gay Ralph Carter, who played his brother Michael, never spoke up about Walker's homophobia. They have showed up at events together; they must pay Ralph not to say anything. What bugs me more than anything in my community is the pass we give our prominent celebs to make such statements. Especially if they are in the "Business" of religion. Walker is an ugly pig. I couldn't believe all of the stories I heard about women throwing themselves at his feet, with his skinny, gross body and a face that could stop Big Ben. He also is an arch-conservative who ragged on Obama every chance he got on that stupid website of his. Fuck his ugly ass.

So many people like Yolanda Adams, the Winans and too many men and women of the cloth have condemned us in the press and on the pulpit. Despite the fact that the gospel choirs in the black churches are overflowing with gays almost. Once I realized that it was impossible to live up to the biblical standards, especially amongst so many fucking hypocrites in the black church, I discovered atheism and I haven't looked back since.

Like the late Butterfly McQueen said, "As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion.”.

"A Guide For White People."

Who the fuck does he think he is? He (along with the original writer) is presuming that he knows how white people think, as if we're a monolith, all with the same thoughts. I wonder how he'd react if I came out with "A Guide For Black People"? I doubt it would go over very well.

[quote]I thought it was all about acceptance in the gay community.

What gay community? There is no gay community.

Why are black gay men so obsessed with what whites think about them?

They don't seem to care about what Asians think of them.

Why is that?

The overwhelming majority of Gay Asian men that I know of date white men exclusively. Very few date other men of color, especially blacks. Which is fine, it's their right; I don't date Asians. I don't hate Asian people and respect them in lots of different ways, but overall, they don't turn me on.

Most gay black men are not obsessing about white men or white people in general r75. Where do you get off making generalizations like that?

[quote]Most gay black men are not obsessing about white men or white people in general [R75]. Where do you get off making generalizations like that?

See the article at the top of the thread.

There have been a number of threads here about articles covering the same issue.

[quote]Very few date other men of color, especially blacks. Which is fine

Exactly R77. I agree.

It is perfectly fine to reject dating another race if that is your preference.

The above post is intended for R76

Sooner or later they'll start accusing everyone of sexual sexism.

Don't want vagina: Sexist who hates women

Do want vagina: Sexist who only views women as objects

There's already lecturing going on as of late about gay men not wanting to date/fuck FTMs.

Much like the academy award nominees, I will only fuck black dudes not because they perform the best in bed but only because society demands me to be more inclusive.

R77 these articles are placed here on purpose repetitively to encourage race arguments on here. It doesn’t occur like this irl but the trolls post them so frequently that it would seem that way.

R78 that’s not what a ‘preference’ means tho. It doesn’t cover excluding groups of people. Why don’t you call it ‘race exclusion’ instead and see if that feels more racist because that’s what it is.

r83 I honestly think there are trolls on here only for disruption and bad faith discussions rather than actually engaging in the topic at hand.

Fuck that. I know what I am attracted to and it is nobody's business. I could care less who you fuck/date etc. Leave me be.

who is this bozo?????

Are we really worrying about what some loud drag queen thinks? He's not someone you'll take home to momma, whether you're black or white or asian.

[quote]Much like the academy award nominees, I will only fuck black dudes not because they perform the best in bed but only because society demands me to be more inclusive.

R82, the only guys you fuck are those attracted to racist morons.

[quote]that’s not what a ‘preference’ means tho. It doesn’t cover excluding groups of people. Why don’t you call it ‘race exclusion’ instead and see if that feels more racist because that’s what it is.

Then talk to R76 who wrote this about Asians: "Very few date other men of color, especially blacks. Which is fine"

Note the words "which is fine"

[quote]that’s not what a ‘preference’ means tho. It doesn’t cover excluding groups of people. Why don’t you call it ‘race exclusion’ instead and see if that feels more racist because that’s what it is.

You are making a mockery of what real racism is.

Not being attracted sexually to a particular race is hardly racism. Who I'm attracted to or not attracted to sexually should be none of your business. It should make absolutely no difference to your life

If it does, you've got deep esteem problems, deep self loathing.

This wouldn't be an issue if Grindr had kept the race filter.

R89 I didn’t realize R76 was the authority on the subject.

R90 ‘real’ racism is another technique white people use to avoid confronting their own racism. If the reason you’re not attracted to someone is because of their race that is racist. It’s extremely simple. Why are you arguing it? (I think I can guess lol).

R92 LOL. Being denied my white dick is just not a breech of Civil Rights.

You sound obsessed.

Unfortunately, when people are choosing partners for sex, marriage, whatever, they don't automatically take into consideration America's (or the world's for that matter) unfortunate history with race, mainly the black vs. white continuum. Most races mingle exclusively amongst their own; for the most part, this is a natural thing. But when the majority chooses partners of another race in the US especially, black people are the last choices. The first? Hmmm, anecdotally I'll say Asians and Latinx, because they tend to come closest in standards of physical attractiveness to white people. YMMV. A number was done on the reputations of Africans and African-Americans by lies, ignorance and pure hatred; we still struggle with this viewpoint. The exploitation and maltreatment of our people has been so thorough, so brutal (only the native Americans have suffered worse because they were murdered off) that even something that seems benign, like someone telling some black people that they aren't attracted to them can be taken by some as a personal affront. And this has been said here and elsewhere - when some white people are "into" blacks, in some ways, that can be as negative as not being "into" them. I know of a couple of gay white acquaintances who liked black men that way, but only if they were "tops" and really ultra masculine. I never heard them say this, but other drinking buddies claimed that one of them was thrown out of a club for using the N word to a couple of black gay men. I was shocked because I thought that we were cool. We were, so as long as I wasn't going after black dick. I did end up not speaking to him anymore after I heard that about him. He was a bottom with no respect for other bottoms, i.e., black men seeking other black men. My point? LOL, I forgot LOL. No, I guess what I am trying to say is that we are all wired differently somehow. He totally believed the myth about black men's penis sizes. He wasn't the only one. The subject has come up many times with some of my old drinking buddies from my pub crawling days. As for myself, unless a white man can turn into Christopher Meloni or an Arthur Lynch, I have no fucks to give. Props to Dave Pocock too.

But I also dig James McDaniel from NYPD BLUE - something about him conveys strength and dignity, which is sexy to me. And Tyson Beckford and Darryl Stephens are two of the most gorgeous men I've ever laid eyes on. When NOAH'S ARK was on, Stephens was major fap material for me - and he still looks good. Tyson has too many tattoos now, but in his day, I found him exquisite. Oh, and Willie Gault that foxy football player who proudly proclaimed that he practiced ballet to help him with his game. Wow. I miss him. What is he doing these days?

[quote]Is this a discussion that goes both ways? Or are white gays going to be gaslight into accepting that it is okay for people not to want to sleep with them?

Of course "woke" people have no issue with "Brothers only" (i.e. blacks only wanting to fuck other blacks).

Just more hypocrisy.

R93 it’s ‘breach’ first of all. I didn’t say anything about ‘civil rights’ (?) whatever that has to do with it. If you’re white and North American I’m guessing your dick is cut and dehydrated so nobody wants that anyway.

yasssssssss

[quote] Pretty soon we will be forced to marry blacks…

Speak softly, R29, don't give Kamala ideas.

Well, because she said it is her house, it must be true.

I'm white and Todrick Hall is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Exhausting? Sure. But he's cute and eminently fuckable.

I don't. Not about him. And that first name is unfortunate.

R86, He was once on "American Idol."

Let's face it, white guys are universally the hottest. I get why everyone wants a piece and shame white people for having preferences. Yu should try to respect every, but you are no way obligated to find them attractive or fuck them.

R16 is spot on.

Btw of he is getting fat and fugly and is probably not getting any. Rejections will increase for him and next thing he will say is everyone hates him.

I am non white and have a type. I have white Best friends who have a type. That's not racism. Btw who the fuck are these guys to lecture the rest. Be happy with yourself and stfu.

Your dick controls you, fuck the rest of it.

I bet he's an athletic fuck.

Not that I use hook up sites anymore but I've seen plenty of "No blacks, no Asians, no offence" straplines on bios of men. More often than not found alongside "No fats, no femmes" and "work hard, play hard" and "Top/vers" when they mean bottom.

The most bizarre thing is I used see it living in a predominantly white part of the UK. It's not like there were huge numbers of non white men thinking about messaging these generally ugly white guys for a fuck. As if these skanks would turn down Denzel Washington in his prime.

And I had conversations with other white gay men along the lines of "Would you ever have sex with a black man?" My answer was always "Are they attractive or not?".

And in the UK, black is seen as far more desirable than Indian/Pakistani.

I’m just too tired to read about this.

These guys all need to listen to a little Bonnie Raitt song that goes, “I can’t make you love me...if you don’t.”

Every black guy I’ve ever slept with has always called me “Masser”. Now what’s that about?

[quote] Would you ever have sex with a black man?" My answer was always "Are they attractive or not?'"

I asked a similar question when a friend set me up with certain prince. I asked, "Is he nice? Because it wouldn't work otherwise".

Not funny r110. Go back under the bridge.

Todrick sounds exhausting. I’ve seen snow queens like him before. Vicious towards other black men if he thinks that they are into white boys too. Because his ego is so large that he thinks that he’s the only one that they should hook up with. He’s free to date whom ever he chooses, but good luck with that. He comes across as a smug bastard.

Why doesn’t he hold his BFF Taylor Swift to these standards? The closest to diversity she’s ever shown in her boyfriends was the gay werewolf from Twilight.

I thought Todrick Hall was a stately home available for tours and corporate events.

If you're not harming anyone, who you fuck, or who you want to fuck is no-one's goddam business but yours.