Coronavirus Freakout 45: Hot Fun in the Summertime

Previous thread.

Thanks OP!

I hope the next thread can be titled Those Lazy, Hazy Deadly Days of Summer!

Yay! Thanks SylviaFowler👍

Woo hoo! The window ladies of Amsterdam went back to work today.

Back in May, in a fit of optimism, I booked a long weekend at a very small B&B in southern Maryland for the third week in July. It's only a five hour drive, small town, B&B has only seven rooms, ours has its own private entrance, and the only shared space would be the breakfast room. If we go, we'd order take out from the local restaurants to take back to the B&B for the rest of our meals.

Should we go? (Also, technically my country regulations say that we're supposed to self-quarantine after returning from anywhere out of state.)

Right now, Maryland cases are low. Since you're driving, the transportation risk is small. However, my main concern is the breakfast room. If you can grab breakfast from the room and leave or dine outside, that would be optimal. Also, where is the closest hospital and grocery store in the small town - just in case? Will you be able to self-quarantine when you come home? I feel you should go. The weekend trip sounds good as long as you can social distance and wear masks!

R6 As long as it’s not super crowded like Ocean City, I’d go, and bring my own wine/booze for the room to avoid bars. If it’s somewhere like St.Michael’s could be low key fun.

CNN's Kaitlan Collins:

The number of active duty military personnel who have tested positive for coronavirus has more than doubled since June 10, per DOD.

The state of Tennessee reported 1,806 new coronavirus cases on Wednesday, its highest number of reported cases in one day yet.

Students in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 have been attending parties in the city and surrounding area as part of a disturbing contest to see who can catch the virus first, a city council member told ABC News on Wednesday.

Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry said students have been organizing "COVID parties" as a game to intentionally infect each other with the contagion that has killed more than 127,000 people in the United States. She said she recently learned of the behavior and informed the city council of the parties occurring in the city.

She said the organizers of the parties are purposely inviting guests who have COVID-19.

"They put money in a pot and they try to get COVID. Whoever gets COVID first gets the pot. It makes no sense," McKinstry said. "They're intentionally doing it."

Sign of the times, r11.

You can educate the hell out of them, but you can't teach anyone common sense. These "brilliant" hard drinking students will be their own undoing.

When all is said and done, which state do you think will wind up with the most cases per capita?

50K new cases in the last 24 hours.

5 children were hospitalized for Covid in Huntsville, Alabama

Now people will be upset. I won't be though. most people didn't give a shit when the elderly were getting sick. I'm not going to get all upset just because kids are getting sick

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They don't care about kids in cages or kids getting shot up in classrooms, why on earth would they care about kids getting a hoax virus?

Are the kids white?

I'd pay to watch COVID-deniers die on the ground outside of full hospitals.

I want nothing more than to stay locked inside my fabulous home with air condition on full blast for the remainder of the summer. You travel queens can have it.

What r20 said.

[quote]5 children were hospitalized for Covid in Huntsville, Alabama. Now people will be upset.

As long as they were born, no one will care.

R14 Hold me David. I'm scared.

[quote]Hold me David. I'm scared.

You're working on my last nerve bitch.

Get the FUCK over there!

Sylvia dear, should you not be refreshing your resume dear? Your cushy Uni job might be obsolete soon with distance learning.

R25 I'm well aware that my department could be on the chopping block, but probably not until next year. In the meantime, I will take what happiness I can get in this shitstorm, but thanks ever so much for your concern.

R20 Another thing that's been quietly freaking me out -- every year during the height of summer, after the A/C has been running nonstop, I always start to get a tickly/scratchy throat. It's been happening this week and I KNOW it's from the air conditioning, but it's still making me mental.

I, foolishly, bought tickets to The Lion King in February for a performance in March. This was before we knew about COVID-19. I bought them through Stubhub which isn't offering refunds, not even partial. They're offering someSo, I'm out $680+ if and when we decide to go. Sunovabitch!

I'm in NJ so I'm hoping I can request a refund. The $680 includes fees. I don't care about that but I would like the ticket costs refunded.

R26 are you able to change the filter on your HVAC system? Can you get you air vents cleaned? I live in the South, and I'm trying to just keep fans running during the day. So from 7 AM until 11 PM no air conditioning, but I do need it at night.

are staying in motels risky? can you really get infected if the previous guest got them?

You know, here's what I don't get. We have the smart progressive people who KNEW they had to wear masks. We knew we needed to stock up for a quarantine. We started actively taking control of our lives back in early March. Why? Because we know Trump. We know this administration. Either they would do what they ought to do, or they would not.

It because very clear, very fast that they would not. Fine. We also know he has those diehard, lunatic MAGAts who are going to freak out and we saw how he was provoking them. But in between those two extremes, there seems to be a vast middle swath of people who seem to be governed by what they're told by their governments, even if the governors are imbeciles like De Santis or Scott.

I mean, did those people really believe it when they said we didn't need masks? Because I didn't. Did they really believe it when they said we could "re open" back in May? or, Easter Sunday? Really? All we needed to know is the virus was killing people. We knew it was contagious. We knew there was no vaccine. We knew the only chance we had, was containing it. Stay home. Wear a mask. Wash your hands. Social distance.

If most people in this country had shown some basic common sense, we could have saved tens of thousands of lives. And jobs. Did we really need local government to tell us? So when my neighbor looks at me across our driveways and he says, "Hey things must be getting back to normal because they're finally opening the restaurants and the bars..." He is so reliant on "They." How can people be so stupid? Why do we need some authority figure to tell us what to do?

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ JULY 2 ~ 9:55 AM EST

🛸 WORLD UFO DAY

🙊 "I FORGOT" DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 10,847,011

DEATHS: 519,888

CRITICAL: 57,988

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,781,085

DEATHS: 130,813

CRITICAL: 15,898

📊 WORLDOMETER.COM

😷 COVER IT !

DJT : We Are The Ventilator King!

We are producing thousands of ventilators. We have ventilators for America. We have ventilators for other countries. We are the King of Ventilator Production! Anyone who needs them, we have them.

Until we don't . . . . . . . . . . .

R27 I'm sorry to hear that but honey COVID became global news in January. Not that I can point fingers. I knew back in January what was going to unfold just not how. In very early February I purchased 25 tickets for a French Film Festival that was to begin in mid-March. I hope the Festival would be able to run the course but it only lasted a week. The good news is that I got all my money refunded for the screenings after cinemas were shutdown due to the lockdown. The Festival is return again in the middle of this month so I'll able to catch up with the films I missed. Hopefully, COVID won't raise its ugly head again.

R28 The filters have been changed recently, but the air vents, never.

R33, I don't know if the virus was in the US when I purchased the tickets or if it was well-known. If it was then, that's on me. I'm pretty smart and watch the News daily. I don't think I would have spent the money if I'd thought COVID-19 would become the pandemic it has.

All I can say now is that, going forward, I will buy directly from the theaters. Those individuals received refunds.

[italic] "I wore a mask once. People have seen me in a mask. I had on a mask the other day. I thought I looked quite good in it. It was a black mask. I thought I looked like the Lone Ranger."

Trump looked like The Stoned Ranger.

Congratulations on your continued WFH news Sylvia!!!

I am sitting here having my every eight weeks infusion so it is exactly 24 weeks fro when I found out about this monster.

I try to avoid tin-hattery, but there was so much aggressive anti-mask rhetoric here through March. I was embarrassed when I posted that I wore a mask on my vacation flights In February.

ElderLez reminds me. My brother and his girlfriend didn’t wear masks when they flew in February to their Florida vacation. She got sick as a result. Ten days with a fever over 100°f. She’s the type who probably went to work, sick, anyway, too. Not that she’s dedicated, she went for the money, I mean.

My brother is smarter than I am, usually, but not in this case.

R36, I wish the reporter had corrected Trump and reminded him the The Lone Ranger wore a mask across HIS EYES! Stupid fuck!

One way to speed up the development and testing of a vaccine: Inject the coronovirus into vaccinated test subjects instead of sending them out in the world and waiting for them to be exposed to the virus. (This has also been done in the develobpment of other vaccines.)

It's called a human challenge trail, and the ethics of doing it for the coronavirus are being debated. It might be more ethical if there were therapeutics that could help a person recover from the disease in case the vaccine fails to protect them in the test trial, but today's treatment drugs are limited in efficacy.

[quote] In the United States, government researchers say that although their primary focus is on traditional clinical trials, they have already begun preparing for human challenge trials, in case they are needed to test either vaccines or treatments. The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases is developing strains of the virus that could be used to infect participants....

[quote] “Such an approach is not without risks, but every week that vaccine rollout is delayed will be accompanied by many thousands of deaths globally,” a team led by Dr. Nir Eyal, a bioethicist at Rutgers, wrote in March, in an article in The Journal of Infectious Diseases.

[quote] Dr. Eyal’s group suggested choosing an age range of 20 to 45, and even proposed using a control group that would receive a placebo shot rather than the vaccine but would still be exposed to the virus, so at least some would almost certainly fall ill.

Young people are having COVID parties in Alabama. First one to catch it wins a prize. Just heard that on MSNBC. How unbelievably stupid.

45 threads now. I am relatively new here. Is this a record in terms of continuing threads? If not, which topic is number 1? Curious

Yikes! Florida is already reporting +10K cases today and +60 deaths. We already know that reported deaths there are artificially low due to their "conditions" but +60 is a lot for them. Brazil is also reporting +23K cases and +600 deaths already. Another bad day I fear

So much for the hot weather will stop the virus bullshit!

Texas don't need no Fauci.

USAToday 7/1/20

[quote] Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said he will no longer listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top infectious disease experts, as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge in Texas.

[quote] “Fauci said today that he’s concerned about states like Texas that skipped over certain things,” Patrick told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Tuesday. “He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. We haven’t skipped over anything. The only thing I’m skipping over is listening to him.”

[quote] Hours before Patrick’s remarks, state health officials reported unprecedented numbers: more than 6,500 new cases of COVID-19 and more than 6,000 hospitalizations.

Title suggestion for the next thread: "Ain't no stopping me now. I'm on the move. Baby.....Baby"

Title suggestion for next thread: "Cruel Summer".

R48 Thread #43 was Cruel Summer.

708 new cases in Dallas today. I know DL hates us, but there are a lot of normal people paying the price for dumb asses thanks to Governor Hot Wheels, and his tardpublican posse. Thank goodness I stocked up on lip gloss, and Prada back in January.

CNN: A global study has found clear evidence that a new form of the coronavirus has spread from Europe to the US. The new mutation makes the virus more infectious but does not seem to make people any sicker, an international team of researchers reported Thursday.

The mutation affects the spike protein — the structure the virus uses to get into the cells it infects. Now the researchers are checking to see if this affects whether the virus can be controlled by a vaccine. Current vaccines being tested mostly target the spike protein.

The study, published in the journal Cell, confirms earlier work suggesting the mutation had made the new variant of virus more common. The researchers call the new mutation G614, and they show that it has almost completely replaced the first version to spread in Europe and the US, one called D614.

This could be good news, said Lawrence Young, a professor of medical oncology at the UK’s University of Warwick, who was not involved in the study. “The current work suggests that while the G614 variant may be more infectious, it is not more pathogenic. There is a hope that as SARS-CoV-2 infection spreads, the virus might become less pathogenic,” he said in a statement.

[quote]Yikes! Florida is already reporting +10K cases today and +60 deaths.

Miami police announced today that they'll be issuing fines to people who do not wear masks in public. Good, the rest of America needs to follow suit!

Today, DJT: “the crisis is being handled...We’re likewise getting under control some areas that were very hard hit...are now doing very well...we’re putting out the fires..”

Who is this “we”? Trump isn't doing anything to help. He’s actively making things worse.

Broadway actor Nick Cordero has now been in the hospital 90 days. Today, his wife said he would likely need a double-lung transplant to recover from the damage Covid-19 has wrought.

FDA commissioner Stephen Hahn just thanked Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for the "incredible job" he's done for his state in battling Covid-19. Shockingly, Hahn did not burst into flames nor die on the spot from shame.

Finally

New Jersey extends public health emergency for another 30 days

From CNN's Melanie Schuman and Elizabeth Hartfield

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy has signed an executive order extending the public health emergency in the state.

The extension does not impact the state’s reopening, which is continuing to move ahead. The health emergency was first declared in the state on March 9.

“What today’s action means is we will have the authority to remain vigilant and prepared to act should there be another outbreak,” Murphy said during his daily briefing Thursday.

Each extension expires after 30 days unless renewed.

Columbus, Ohio, implements mask mandate

From CNN’s Rebekah Riess

Another US city will be requiring people to wear masks in public.

Beginning July 3, Columbus, Ohio, will require people to wear a face covering when out in public, the city's Health Department announced Thursday.

“We must stay the course of maintaining social distancing, washing hands and wearing facial coverings. So today I am signing an executive order to mandate face coverings in Columbus,” Columbus Mayor Andrew Ginther tweeted.

Ginther said the city has distributed more than 40,000 masks.

Asked if employees at the Ohio State House in Columbus would be required to follow the mayor’s order, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine said, “I certainly hope that everyone will follow those orders, they are not unreasonable."

"I want to congratulate the mayor and all the mayors for doing this. I think it makes eminent sense to do it," he added.

At least 152 Covid-19 cases linked to Michigan bar outbreak

From CNN's Melissa Alonso

There are at least 152 Covid-19 cases currently linked to a bar in East Lansing, Michigan, Amanda Darche, public information officer for the Ingham Health Department, tells CNN.

On Tuesday, 107 cases were linked to the Harper's Restaurant & Brew Pub. Health officials asked anyone who visited the establishment June 12 and June 20 to self-quarantine, CNN has reported.

The 152 current cases include "128 primary cases and 24 secondary cases," Darche says. Secondary cases are people who were infected but did not visit Harper’s Restaurant and Brewpub.

On its website, Harper’s Restaurant and Brewpub says patrons "voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19" when visiting.

Some more context: Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed an executive order Wednesday closing indoor service at bars throughout most of lower Michigan “following recent outbreaks tied to bars," she said.

Median age for new Covid-19 cases in Tampa area is 34, Florida governor says

From CNN’s Angela Barajas

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said the median age for new cases in Tampa's Hillsborough County throughout the pandemic is now down to 34.

"“One of the things that's driven the increase cases has been increasing positivity rates amongst young people," DeSantis said."

Florida's governor made the comments alongside Vice President Mike Pence at the University of South Florida Center for Advanced Medical Learning and Simulation in Tampa. The governor addressed the media before a scheduled briefing with other White House coronavirus task force officials.

Earlier today, Florida marked a new record daily high of infections since the start of the pandemic. The Florida Department of Health reported 10,109 additional coronavirus cases, which broke the previous record of more than 9,500 new cases in a single day reported on Saturday. The state's total cases are more than 160,000, according to data released by the state today.

The governor also warned Floridians to take precautions ahead of the July 4th weekend.

He advised people to stay away from enclosed spaces when retreating from the heat, avoid large crowds and “close contact situations”.

“In Florida when it’s hot, people retreat to the AC. They get close together, they have a party. You’re much better off being in the 95 degree heat than being in that enclosed space with poor ventilation," he said.

R56

Look at that! Nice skid Hot Wheels! That might have been helpful, oh..I dont know, maybe months ago?

Im watching the press conference in Dallas, and they are projecting 1000+ new cases for Dallas tomorrow.

I can't even bear to watch him, R62. This idiot, his lieutenant and all the sociopathic Trumpster right-wingers have caused this to spiral out of control.

R63 Judge Clay Jenkins (D) was addressing the county. He is always throwing shade at the Republicans in Austin for fucking this up.

Pittsburgh area has taken all restaurants back to takeout only for the next week beginning today. Bars already have been shut.

There's an awful lot of loopholes in the Texas mask mandate:

[quote]The executive order provides limited exceptions. Texans under 10 years old or people with a medical condition or disability that prevents them from wearing a face covering are exempt.

[quote]In addition, people are also not required to wear a face mask while seated at a restaurant or eating and drinking, while exercising outside if they can maintain a safe distance from others, while driving alone or with members of their household, while swimming in a pool or lake, while giving a speech or if a person must temporarily remove their face mask, like for security purposes while visiting a bank or while receiving personal care services.

[quote]Face masks or not required but strongly encouraged for people during religious services, when voting and in counties with few COVID-19 cases that opt-out and have filed the necessary forms with the Texas Division of Emergency Management.

[quote]The order also explicitly notes that people must wear masks at protests or demonstrations that will have more than 10 people present and where people can’t remain six feet apart.

So you have to wear a mask at an outdoor protest but not inside a church. And I'm betting we'll see a huge host of people claiming they can't wear a mask due to medical conditions.

[quote] DJT: “I think that we’re going to be very good with the coronavirus...”

The idiot said this today. What does this even mean? How is one “very good” with a virus? He can’t explain anything because he is so stupid.

Asshats in the City of Huntington Beach, California (Orange Cointy) that sued Governor Newsom over the beach shut down back in May now come round and close it themselves.

The Corona probably expands and multiplies in the hot weather.

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ JULY 2 ~ 6:10 PM EST

🛸 WORLD UFO DAY

🙊 "I FORGOT" DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 10,984,732

DEATHS: 522,952

CRITICAL: 58,095

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,828,113

DEATHS: 131,411

CRITICAL: 15,888

📊 WORLDOMETER.COM

😷 LOOKIN' GOOD !

Yikes ..........

CDC : US could see 160,000 deaths by July 4th

And only 90 days till FLU SEASON starts.

i don't think COVID will be any worse in the winter...weather and seasonality don't seem to matter

Covid becomes worse with increased stupidity.

[quote]US could see 160,000 deaths by July 4th

That would mean 30,000 additional deaths in the next two days. Given that there were 636 deaths reported today, I don't think so.

There hasn’t been an increase in nyc, right?

there is a slight increase in NYC

R76: NY is at 1005 new cases today (compared to 769 yesterday)

[quote][R76]: NY is at 1005 new cases today (compared to 769 yesterday)

I knew that was going to happen. They've been doing it too quickly.

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[quote] I knew that was going to happen. They've been doing it too quickly.

Everyone has been reopening too quickly. The current shitshow was totally foreseeable. Many of us said back in May that it was too soon to start reopening everything. We said that we should wait until the number of cases was dropping consistently (rather than just plateauing), and that the reopening should be much more gradual. But we were shouted down by the posters who kept saying "You can't stay locked down forever!" and insisting that people across the country would soon be committing suicide if they were forced to stay indoors for a few more weeks. Even the Democratic governors finally gave in to pressure from the deplorables and started reopening everything. Now, we're up to 50,000 cases per day, the situation is spiraling out of control in several states, a lot of places that reopened are having to shut down again, and the posters who were screaming "You can't stay locked down forever!" have become silent.

there is outdoor dining now in NYC. I've walked past some places and the tables may be 6 feet apart, but once the people sit down they are closer than 6 feet. they aren't placed far apart enough...but space is limited. Also, so many don't have masks while sitting down at the tables. yes I know you can't eat with a mask on but I still think it's too risky. I only order to go.

Are universities going to require students sign a waiver they're not responsible for any COVID-19 contagion if they reopen their campuses? I mean, they can shut down the fraternity houses but they can't shut down student housing and there's no way students aren't going to find a way to gather together and party.

[quote]there is outdoor dining now in NYC. I've walked past some places and the tables may be 6 feet apart, but once the people sit down they are closer than 6 feet. they aren't placed far apart enough...but space is limited. Also, so many don't have masks while sitting down at the tables. yes I know you can't eat with a mask on but I still think it's too risky. I only order to go.

The Chinese restaurant that's around the corner from my apartment (in Queens) has set up a few tables for outside dining. They're in the place which is normally metered parking, but it's an incredibly busy place, and is right next to an entrance to the subway. I know they need to make money, but it seems like a really bad idea.

USA: 57,236 new cases today.

What could happen? 40 South Bay Principals are in quarantine after being exposed to Covid19 during a meeting.

Enjoy Disney World on July 11th!

I can't see how schools can open safely...NYC mayor is already planning to open schools in Sept! Fucking nightmare.

Some New Yorkers had the coronavirus in early February, new research shows

A study published this week, based on more than 5,000 plasma samples collected from patients at Manhattan’s Mount Sinai Hospital, revealed that some patients had antibodies for the contagion as early as the week ending on Feb. 23.

Considering the time necessary to produce antibodies, that likely means they were infected about two weeks earlier, Florian Krammer, an immunologist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who led the study, told the New York Times.

“You’re probably talking about very early in February,” Krammer said. “It looks like there was at least low-level circulation.”

The research has yet to be peer-reviewed, but several experts backed its credibility, according to the Times.

Trevor Bedford, an evolutionary biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, said it appears that Feb. 19 was “the arrival that fueled things,” but noted that “it’s cool that we all have similar numbers.”

The first confirmed coronavirus case in the city occurred in a woman in her late 30s who had recently traveled to Iran. Blood plasma samples used in the Mount Sinai study came from two separate groups: patients who visited the hospital’s emergency department, and those who underwent regular screenings as part of obstetric care, regular office and treatment visits, and elective or planned surgeries, among other types of care, according to the Wall Street Journal.

The samples were collected beginning the week of Feb. 9.

Researchers said they saw a “stark increase” in samples positive for antibodies within the emergency department group beginning the week ending March 22.

In the screening group, that increase was spotted a week later.

The researchers also found that, by the week ending April 9, an estimated 1.62 million individuals in the city had been infected with the virus that causes COVID-19, according to the Journal.

However, they said the samples aren’t representative of the entire population.

But similar findings released by state officials in an April study indicated that one in five Big Apple residents screened in the state’s first round of coronavirus antibody testing were exposed to the contagion.

Talent agency CAA keeping LA, NYC and Nashville offices closed until 2021

R88: Same with NJ, but I doubt it will happen. JCBOE are talking about part-time, in-class instruction with 1/2 the kids, twice a week. However, kids are not going to social distance whether there are 1000 or 500. If college kids can't do it. K-12 can't. I believe they will wait until the last minute and have children do remote learning again.

Houston hospitals forced to transfer patients out of city as COVID-19 cases soar

With infections soaring across the state, Harris Health Systems, the operators of Houston’s Ben Taub and LBJ hospitals, have had to transfer 33 of its patients to a network of other care centers over the course of 24 hours Tuesday, ABC News reports.

The transfers include COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients. And at least another 15 patients were slated to be transferred Wednesday, with patients according to the outlet.

[quote]I'd pay to watch COVID-deniers die on the ground outside of full hospitals.

That's gonna be free in about 3 weeks.

San Francisco slaps Catholic Archdiocese with cease and desist order for holding illegal gatherings.

R10

The entire state of Tennessee has 620 deaths total from COVID19 over the 3 months.

Shutting down the entire state to prevent 600 deaths is fucking retarded bullshit

R95 Hi Anders.

The hysteria continues.

Oh, good, Boris is back.

There were obvious cases of COVID-19 in hospitals in New York in February, but the CDC refused to test them. I wonder if the data in R89’s article is completely de-identified or if the ones where CDC refused testing are somehow tagged.

R95 I'm sure Tennessee - which is spiking along with the rest of the country - has more excessive deaths that aren't being reported as CV.

Back in February, my brother-in-law got extremely sick in Arkansas. At the time, he said he couldn’t remember a time he had felt that sick and was out of commission for a whole week. My sister had a newborn at home, so they smartly quarantined him in the guest bedroom. No one else in the house for sick. Everyone assumed he just had a bad case of the flu, but when he was tested he came back negative.

After the coronavirus hit, we all said in jest that he must have already had it. He’s a pediatric dentist and works in a hospital— maybe he had picked whatever it was up there.

In May, the dots finally were connected. It turns out the weekend before he got sick he went to a birthday party. Pretty much everyone at the party got extremely sick except for my sister, who was sort of off in a corner the whole time dealing with her new baby. One of the hosts of the party had a tutor for her children who had also been sick a little before that— and had just returned from a trip to China.

I got chills when they told me this last night. I know it’s not very reliable, but I wish he would get an antibody test.

New cases and deaths over the past week in the world's most affected countries.

R101 He really should get an antibody test. It could have been COVID but it could also have been a very nasty flu - they have been and are still around and without testing one will never know.

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ JULY 3 ~ 10:OO AM EST

🚯 DISOBEDIENCE DAY

🤴 COMPLIMENT YOUR MIRROR DAY

🌎GLOBAL

CASES: 11,031,515

DEATHS: 525,091

CRITICAL: 57,928

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,837,726

DEATHS: 131,504

CRITICAL: 15,907

📊 WORLDOMETER.COM

😷 THIS IS HOW WE DO IT !

Florida leads the Nation!!!!!! Go Florida!!!!! Go, Governor De Santis!!!!!!!!!!!! GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd like to interrupt this thread to point out that the Beautiful Boris Sanchez is broadcasting from Sarasota for CNN, as he has been for several days. He is on the beach. He is wearing a soft pink shirt. He is my forever crush.

I know I keep harping on this, but how can Disney World still be going ahead. I know they want to start bringing in cashflow again, but they're probably not going to be at break-even point with such limited capacity and they're going to get people killed.

I'm hoping to God they've canceled their plans about bringing indoor dining back.

Wait, didn't we hit 10 million cases just last week when we hit 500k deaths? Now we're at 11 million already?

R95, you can’t be that stupid. Or, do you think your audience is that stupid? You seem to be suggesting that you want to wait until it’s completely out of control, and then you’ll consider doing something? Except that then, you’ll say it’s too late to do anything and we’ll “just have to accept” all the deaths. Deaths that can be prevented today, by having some forethought.

Lots of speculation that Vegas will close again sometimes after the 4th. It might take two weeks before the results start coming in but the casinos want at least one last big cash grab. Rumors are that some hotels are already at 100% occupancy. Stay far away from Vegas this weekend.

I know one thing. If Biden gets elected he is going to put a national policy in place to wear masks, and he very well may shut down the entire country for 30 days. MAssive testing and contact tracing. He will not play. And people will be pissed off.

[quote] He will not play. And people will be pissed off.

Tough titties

Bah. I think it was circulating here in December as evidenced by this thread:

R112, we all remember that thread, especially when Covid started taking over.

Our researchers are saying the virus mutated in February and that seemed to accelerate the spread globally.

R110 Will it be too late by then? At this rate, I think so. We need to shut completely down now through Labor Day.

I like the people who counter the case spiking due to more testing being done. What they fail to realize is the number of positives proves the virus is spreading and we are failing at containing it.

New CDC survey: 54% of people who tested positive for Covid-19 can't pinpoint how they contracted the virus.

These findings are “very concerning,” and suggest that people are likely contracting Covid-19 from people in their community who are asymptomatic, Dr. Joshua Barocas, infectious disease physician and assistant professor at Boston University School of Medicine, said in an Infectious Disease Society of America briefing Wednesday.

This also makes contract tracing "incredibly difficult," said Barocas.

The Miami-Dade county mayor today announced an indefinite nightly curfew from 10 pm to 6am and halted the reopenings of venues such as casinos and theaters that had been set for Friday.

What r115 said.

The odds are against me when it comes to gambling in Vegas, or riding the Teacups in Disneyland, but seriously.........You bitches need to stay home.

Breaking the rules of common sense is not how you spread the love. Celebrate safely.

🎂 Happy 224th Birthday To My American Friends 🎉

If Disney opens to X number of people, X number of people will be there. The die hard Dizzknee aficionados won't give a shit about safety- look at the discussion boards of Dizzknee cruises- there are dozens of posters champing at the bit to climb aboard any boat sponsored by Ol' Mickey. Dizzknee ONLY cares about money, and its own publicity, and it knows if they open it, they will come.

R105 your post is one of the reasons I love DL- the soft pink t-shirt is the kind of detailed news content I need~

I know it's been said before but so glad to share this historical moment with all of you. I have been locked up in my home since March. Only 2 family visits and one restaurant outing since then, all within the last 2 weeks. So fortunate to be able to work from home during this crisis and to follow these threads everyday. I can't imagine my life without these freaking threads! They have educated me, allowed me to share my concerns and opinions, scared me too death, pissed me off (blocked bots lol), and have honesty helped me through this unbelievable time. For sure, we still have a long way to go but I look forward to sharing this experience with all of you, for better or worse

Sorry. Meant to write "to death" not "too death". Where is the edit button lol! Love you all!

Ditto, r122/r123!

R110, that's because Joe Biden knows the only way out of this mess, short of a vaccine, is to test, trace, isolate and socially distance. If Dotard hadn't squandered the three months we shut down, we'd be able to go about our business [italic]today[/italic] without masks or fear because everybody would be tested and people who tested positive would be isolated to prevent further spread. Yes, there would have been, and under Biden there will be, spikes of infection, which we will be able to control and stop before they become serious...but not without a testing regime that can reach every American within about 2 weeks time.

Remember, the fastest we have ever produced an effective vaccine was for mumps and that took ~4 years. Look on the bright side: just as things will start to get interesting for the 2024 race (Biden v.Tucker Carlson!), a vaccine will arrive. Yay Joe Biden!

R95 It's not just about how many deaths there are. You've got to also look at how many hospitalizations and potential hospitalizations there are going to be. Medical workers having been dealing with this for months now. It's up to everyone in a community to try to help them out.

Feeling depressed -- turned down a 4th of July invitation from a very good friend of mine. (I'm like an uncle to his kids.) But we're in a corona hot spot, and there's going to be 10-15 other people there, so going didn't seem right.

Yes, R127! I'm feeling the same way. I'm in LA, cancelled plans to meet up with friends on the central coast b/c we all felt it was too risky, weren't sure what was going to happen w/ restaurant closures, etc. Now I have no plans. I looked at Vegas, tons of rooms for relatively dirt cheap, but I know better, ever though I really want to just go somewhere. Palm Springs is going off, all my favorite gay b&b's are booked. I wish I had done that. I guess better safe than sorry and saving money right now is never a bad thing. I live alone, can WFH, don't have anyone to look after who is elderly, and wear a mask when I am out. Part of me thinks I have should be living life and taking a little more risk, but I feel like taking that attitude will contribute to this never ending. Day drinking and Netflix awaits.

Peter Navarro was on MSNC a little while ago pushing Hyroxychloroquine. He's a fucking nut.

[quote]Peter Navarro was on MSNC a little while ago pushing Hyroxychloroquine. He's a fucking nut.

This is likely why: A team at Henry Ford Health System in southeast Michigan said Thursday their study of 2,541 hospitalized patients found that those given hydroxychloroquine were much less likely to die.

"Overall crude mortality rates were 18.1% in the entire cohort, 13.5% in the hydroxychloroquine alone group, 20.1% among those receiving hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin, 22.4% among the azithromycin alone group, and 26.4% for neither drug,."

However, this was strictly an observational study, not a randomized, controlled trial.

Wow, the tweets coming out of Vegas already are pretty scary.

I guess we'll have to take your word for it, R131.

Interesting Q&A with Dr. Fauci and five other health experts on how they're managing risk. Highlights: they're wearing masks everywhere, shopping in grocery stores and not wiping down packages (or mail), staying away from dine-in restaurants, and not getting on planes (or other public transport).

My local bar is packed here in Europe. I can hear the noise from my double paned windows. Although cases are way down, I worry about the future. It is vacation time here and millions of people will travel throughout Europe in planes, cars and trains for the next several months. Are we reaĺly safe? Is now the time? Will cases explode again? So many questions....

Rumors already floating that Vegas shuts down next week after a cash grab 4th, which was something the Governor approved.

It's beastly hot and humid today, with at least another week of increasingly climbing temperatures, well into the mid 90's.

By next Friday at this time, Covid19 should be completely eradicated from my community.

🧚 It will be magical! Like it never was here!

R135: Yep! Other states are doing that also - Esp. Florida!

Costco and the grocery stores were packed with people buying food for the July 4th weekend. I'm guessing lots of parties will take place. Do you think we'll see a spike in cases in 2 weeks like we did after Memorial Day?

Here in Philly, my family and friends are hunkering down again and doing nothing for the holiday.

If forced to pick numbers, I would go with 45M-50M reported cases and 1.25M-1.5M reported deaths by the end of this year based on current trrends and my gut feeling. Time will tell.

R133, that’s interesting that these people don’t wipe-down their groceries. I don’t, for the most part. It just seems like such a chore. I’m glad to read that the experts don’t find it to be a personal high-priority.

^trends

R135, R137, that’s what Florida did for spring break, too. Take the money, and fuck the tourists. It’s obscene.

I’m not wiping down groceries either. Just wash hands after unpacking. I can’t believe people are partying this weekend. What the hell is there to celebrate ? I’m so sick of fireworks going off since 5/31

275 elephants have died in Botswana in the last few months :( our world!! :(

I am hoping it gets better but at the moment it feels grim. No end in sight and no plan for containment. I went for a walk today and many people still walk around with no mask. It’s sad.

[quote] R110: I know one thing. If Biden gets elected he is going to put a national policy in place to wear masks, and he very well may shut down the entire country for 30 days. MAssive testing and contact tracing. He will not play. And people will be pissed off.

One thing for sure, we need a national policy of required minimum action to address the pandemic. Face masks are a bare minimum.

We also need more, honest information about the pandemic. (Little is more damaging than hearing that moron-President say that he wants to bring us good news, meaning that he’ll lie to us about what we’re facing, because he’s too much of a coward to be straight with us. This should cause us to doubt everything we hear.) I really resent that we know so little at this point. We should know if the virus can be caught multiple times; how long it will be to create a vaccine, what the disability rate is, and so much more.

We need a President who leads.

[quote]Fauci: The only person who comes into the house besides (my wife) Christine and me is the woman who cleans the house once every two weeks. She wears a mask and gloves at all times while in the house.

So does mine, and I'm positive that I contracted Covid from her. I even wiped down all doorknobs and handles down after she left, despite surface contamination not being a main source of infection. Yet I still woke up feeling achy 3 days after she was here.

I walked into a room about 10 minutes after she cleaned it, and I wonder if that's how I got it. Could there have been airborne particles still floating around that I then inhaled, either from her mouth, or from her vacuum cleaner? Do air particles hang around after 10-15 minutes?

[quote] R145: I went for a walk today and many people still walk around with no mask. It’s sad.

I would take my mask off if I were outside and in no contact with others.

R122/R123 Me too! As cases spike in my once-safe city, the only thing that helps me fight the terror is the knowledge that many of my fellow DL coronafreaks live in NYC and have managed to avoid catching it. If you guys can do it, so can I. Sometimes I feel like we're the only reasonable people on earth. Thank you all!

(MARY!)

Yes, R147, they hang around.

R144, I was just reading about the elephants... poor things—I’m sure humans had nothing to do with it. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ JULY 3 ~ 6:45 PM EST

🚯 DISOBEDIENCE DAY

🤴 COMPLIMENT YOUR MIRROR DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES:11,168,416

DEATHS: 528,208

CRITICAL: 57,962

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,884,885

DEATHS: 132,068

CRITICAL: 15,919

📊 WORLDOMETER.COM

😷 WEAR THE FREAKING MASK !

R147 Unless you follow your cleaning lady around and watch everything she does while carrying out her assigned duties, you have absolutely no idea what she may be doing when you aren't looking.

Maybe she hates you, despite her sunny smile .............

R147, apparently aerosolized COVID-19 particles can stay in the air for several hours.

I wipe down or spray everything. I unpack my groceries. Non-food items or canned goods pantry items in sealed containers I stand a slight distance away and lightly spray them with lysol disinfectant cleaner. Then I use paper towel to sort of wipe them down and dry them off. I let them sit there. The I take paper toweling dampened slightly with Lysol, and I wipe off milk bottles and plastic containers for refrigerated items. I'm careful not to get it on food. Very careful. With produce I place it in a basin and run cool water laced with vinegar where appropriate. Stuff like broccoli and like that I just put that away. But if it's a zucchini or an eggplant I rinse it in vinegar water and wipe it off. . Same with oranges and avocados. I wash my hands when I come in and I wash them after I finish putting things away. I wipe my counters off with warm soapy water and I spray my canvas shopping cart. Then I wipe the doorknobs and locks. Sue me. I have lung disease, kidney disease, IBD, Diabetes 2.

Woo-hoo! Kimmie Guilfoyle tested positive!

Cleaning lady works 1/2 a day. I leave the house early in the morning two hours before she arrives (to protect her) and return late afternoon two hours after she’s left (to protect me), So far, so good.

getting closer to DJT. tick tock...

Is the MSM coverage highlighting how Trump is happily infecting large groups of people on purpose? He should be arrested as a murderer.

💃 There goes Ms. Guilfoyle's dream of one day becoming The First Whore of the United States.

I like the doctor on CNN who said Covid will be present at the Trump rally and will be spread.

[quote] Woo-hoo! Kimmie Guilfoyle tested positive!

The Hoax is spreading

Houston positivity rate is 25%. Internal hospital email are dire. From a Houston Chronicle.

🤣 I hope Don Jr's dick doesn't fall off.

Not (if he’s hung like his dad) that anyone would notice.

I just read that Trump new strategy is we have to live with it. Hope he gets it

[quote]I just read that Trump new strategy is we have to live with it

Yes, that’s apparently the new strategy the geniuses at the WH have come up with.

Apparently, since senior voters are abandoning Trump in droves, he’s decided to just kill them all.

He's announcing all these ridiculous plans for the future.

Does he really think he's gonna be around for four more years?

I don’t think his let’s go back to the 1850’s strategy is very good

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Rampant speculation that Vegas casinos will be closed next week by the Governor. He issued an angry statement about non-compliance with masks, which is total BS because he should have ordered that as a condition of re-opening. He also allowed the casinos one big weekend before closure and will likely point to some videos of crowded casinos with people not wearing masks as a reason.

Vegas and Nevada's Covid numbers have skyrocketed and there's not much they can do at this point but close.

CNN: England has one of the world's worst Covid death rates. Now many fear it may drink itself into chaos.

The thought of a pint of beer in a proper pub is a dream that has sustained many people in the UK through the tough months of coronavirus lockdown, but as the doors to drinking establishments finally reopen -- in England at least -- on Saturday, a potential nightmare looms.

Just over a week after thousands of British people flouted social-distancing rules to crowd beaches in a heatwave, it's feared the heady mix of alcohol and a sense of liberation from restrictions, at a time when daily infections are still in the hundreds, could prove disastrous.

Extra police have been put on standby, warnings have been issued by the government and numerous guidelines put in place. But concerns still remain that, no matter how committed people are to keeping coronavirus at bay, after a few drinks that will all go out of the window.

Hospitals in at least two Texas counties are at full capacity heading into July 4, according to county judges who are urging residents to shelter-in-place and take precautions.

Judges in both Starr and Hidalgo counties sent out emergency alerts Friday, warning residents that local hospitals in the Rio Grande Valley were at capacity.

In Starr County, Judge Eloy Vera issued a public safety alert announcing a "Level 1 Severe" threat, due to the virus spreading rapidly across the county.

Can someone better-versed in Texas government explain why these judges have so much power?

I love Ivanka getting called out on Twitter for encouraging people to be safe, wear, masks, and keep distancing at literally the same moment her father was in SD flouting all of that.

[quote] just read that Trump new strategy is we have to live with it.

Administration officials are planning to intensify what they hope is a sharper, and less conflicting, message of the pandemic next week. At the crux of the message is a recognition by the White House that the virus is not going away any time soon — and will be around through the November election.

Next week administration officials plan to promote a new study they say shows promising results on therapeutics. They wouldn't describe the study in any further detail because, they said, its disclosure would be "market-moving."

Officials also plan to emphasize high survival rates, particularly for Americans who are within certain age groups and don't have underlying conditions.

[quote]Next week administration officials plan to promote a new study they say shows promising results on therapeutics.

Unless these "therapeutics" are home-based rather than hospital-based, I don't see how they're going to help us "live with it" in any meaningful sense. Hopefully they're more effective than the other treatments Trump has touted, and they actually will reduce suffering and death. But people will still be going into hospitals en masse, straining healthcare resources and costing a lot of money. Non-deplorables are still going to (rightly) avoid engaging with the world as much as possible so they can stay out of the hospital.

If the treatment is not being disclosed because it is "market moving" you can bet Trump & Co are already investing now.

From the twitterverse:

Hey, so, I got #Covid19 in March. I’ve been sick for over 3 months w/ severe respiratory, cardiovascular & neurological symptoms. I still have a fever. I’ve been incapacitated for nearly a season of my life. It's not enough to not die. You don’t want to live thru this, either.

I am not unique. Support groups have sprung up all over the internet because medical science doesn’t know what to do with the hundreds of thousands of Covid patients who don’t get better in the (utter and complete bullshit, and they know it) CDC guidelines of 2-6 weeks.

The CDC is also refusing to add widely-reported, terrifying symptoms to their lists. So here’s a grab bag of what patients like me are experiencing, so you know: Extreme tachycardia. My heart rate was once 160 while I was sleeping. Chest pain, like someone’s sitting on your sternum. Back and rib pain like someone’s taken a baseball bat to your torso. Fatigue like you’ve never felt before in your life. Fatigue like your body is shutting off. Fatigue so bad that it would often make me cry because I thought it might mean I was dying.

GI problems, diarrhea to severe acid reflux. I had diarrhea every day for two+ months. Unbearable nausea. Also: Inexplicable rashes. For me, little broken blood vessels all over my body. For many of us, a constant shortness of breath that doctors can’t find an explanation for.

Neurological symptoms. I had delirium & hallucinations. Many report tingling all over their body, an internal “buzzing” or “vibrating.” Also, insomnia & chronic hypnic bodily jerks. One symptom so weird that I thought it was just me, but it turns out it’s so many of us was waking up in the middle of the night, gasping for breath. I also experienced tremors while trying to sleep, like someone was shaking the bed. Also: many report a “hot head.” Mine literally radiated heat, despite not hitting a high fever.

Then, there’s the confusion The “brain fog.” I couldn’t read or make sense of text at times. I couldn’t remember words. I’d stare at my partner at a loss for what I needed to communicate, or how to do it. Also: thickening of the blood, clotting.

There's so much we don't know — including if these physical damages are permanent or, for some, will lead to chronic illness. But one thing we do know is this isn’t the fucking flu. Those of you taking risks (yes, you in masks, as well), please, please weigh them against experiences like mine.

R54 "Broadway actor Nick Cordero has now been in the hospital 90 days. Today, his wife said he would likely need a double-lung transplant to recover from the damage Covid-19 has wrought. "

Not much hope if a double lung transplant would be needed.

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ 🎉 JULY 4TH ~ 10:50 AM EST

🎂 HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA !

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 11,231,300

DEATHS: 529,909

CRITICAL: 58,826

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,892,476

DEATHS: 132,129

CRITICAL: 15,928

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😷 LOOKIN' GOOD, AMERICA !

Poor Nick. No legs, and crap lungs. Everything he needed for his career. If Cassandra is around, what pharma companies should we be looking at for all the drugs that will come out to address the post Covid complications?

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CNN: Florida reports 11,400+ new cases today.

CNN-Florida reports more than 11,000 coronavirus cases in one day — a new record

The state of Florida at least 11,445 new coronavirus cases today, the state's largest number of new coronavirus in one day.

The previous Florida record for coronavirus cases was on Thursday, when the state reported 10,109 cases.

The state also reported two new deaths on Saturday.

There have been at least 190,052 total coronavirus cases reported in the state, and more than 3,700 people have died.

cnn-Japan reports more than 200 daily coronavirus cases for the first time in two months

Japan's Health Ministry reported at least 249 new coronavirus infections and one death today, marking the first time the country is reporting more than 200 cases since May 3.

This brought the national total to at least 19,994 — including 19,282 on land and 712 on the Diamond Princess cruise ship — and brought the death toll to at least 990,

Tokyo governor Yuriko Koike urged residents Saturday to refrain from making unnecessarily trips outside of Tokyo in order to contain the spread of the virus.

CNN-Lockdown ordered for 200,000 in northeastern Spain due to Covid-19 outbreaks

Authorities ordered a new lockdown Saturday for some 200,000 people in Lleida province, in Spain's northeastern Catalonia region, due to Covid-19 outbreaks there -- the first confinement order since the nation’s state of emergency was lifted on June 21.

“We’ve decided to implement perimeter controls around Segrià (county) in response to data that confirm significant growth in the number of Covid-19 cases,” Catalan regional president Quim Torra announced at a press conference.

The confinement started at midday Saturday and includes the provincial capital of Lleida. It will be enforced by 24 police checkpoints around the county’s perimeter, preventing movement in and out, except for work or to care for people with special needs, two Catalan government spokesmen told CNN.

For the past few weeks, medical personnel have been trying to control various coronavirus outbreaks in the county, involving seasonal farm workers at agricultural enterprises, and also at a senior care facility and a small hotel that cares for the homeless.

Spain has tallied more than 28,000 deaths and 250,000 cases from the pandemic, making it one of the hardest-hit countries in Europe. But nationwide confinement for three-and-a-half months slowed the pace of the virus' spread. The Spanish government handed back control to Spain’s 17 regional governments when it lifted the state of emergency on June 21.

Since then, officials have reported some 50 outbreaks of new cases nationwide, localized around businesses, care facilities, and even parties. But none has reached the level of the Segrià county situation.

Residents will be able to move around within the county for essential business, but social gatherings in public will be limited to 10 people, the Catalan government said.

Any idea what the exit strategy may be? I live in California and there does not seem to be any articulated plan (beyond stay at home)

The only way we are EVER going to contain this without a vaccine is a national lockdown strategy. Shut everything down for a month, and then reopen slowly on a county level.

Sadly, we missed our chance.

R187, there is no national plan. The plan seems to be, wait until it’s ridiculously bad, then lock down state by state in a futile hope that things will get better between now and September/October, when it will get a whole lot worse.

In reality, the best we can hope for is slowing the skyrocketing rates, which will take at least three weeks after a lockdown. So you’re looking at the third week of July or August, at least, before things begin to slow. Then it starts up again at the beginning of flu season, which I think is October.

Meanwhile, funds to give people an extra $600 in their unemployment check end July 29 and Trump doesn’t want to renew. So expect demonstrations and maybe even some looting as hungry people do what they gotta do. I think that’s when the ban on evicting people ends too.

Now is the time, seriously, to work on improving security for your home. Get that bad window latch fixed, maybe get a metal screen door. And buy whatever you need to buy for a hard lock down this winter. Get your flu vaccination the minute it’s available.

If you’re living with a roommate that refuses to wear masks or social distance, start looking around for another place. Apply to vote by mail. This is basically going to turn into a siege until Biden gets here.

If Trump loses, he won’t do a damn thing after Election Day, unless he can find a way to hurt people, but he might very well just go to Mar-a-Lago and golf until January. You need to understand now, you are on your own. You still have a little bit of time.

If you live in hurricane, tornado or heavy winter storm country, start getting ready for that now. You can’t wait until the last minute like you usually would.

If that scares you, sit down with your housemates and plan what you need to do as a team. Get everyone working together. Assign tasks if you have to. I know people don’t want to hear this, but we need to be better prepared than we were in March and April, when we really didn’t know what to expect. Write down what you’ve learned and apply it. Write a shopping list out now and start working on it. Carry a list every time you go to a store and check it off. Be methodical in your plans.

This is going to be a story to tell the grandkids, nieces and nephews.

[quote] I just read that Trump new strategy is we have to live with it

He’s discarding the old strategy that “it will go away by Easter”, and so forth, as that deadline kept changing.

His new message is probably correct, given that he’s not doing anything to combat the virus. I wonder if it will be too late by Jan 2021, when Biden takes over, to try to contain it then? Or will it be entrenched by then?

For people who are interested, this is a subReddit called “Pandemic Preps.” This is about news, planning and general discussion of what other people are doing. Also, you can sign up and ask questions.

R190, at this point they think in the U.S. 10-24x more cases have happened than we know about. So maybe 20-30 million have already had it? Ninety percent at least haven’t, maybe more.

If there’s no vaccine, and the best they can do is some sort of treatment, the next issue is what do uninsured or underinsured people do? My guess is, they keep working through it as long as they can, until they end up in the hospital, spreading it all the way.

If it’s 10% of the population per year, you do the math. Plus, they think immunity only lasts a few months.

[quote] Then it starts up again at the beginning of flu season, which I think is October.

It will start up again before that. When schools across the country foolishly bring students back into classrooms and onto college campuses in late August and September, expect cases to skyrocket.

I've been working through my supply of apocalypse food that I bought back in March. I'm actually starting to think I should restock instead of using it all.

No, R192, it absoluteiy hasn’t been established what the length of immunity is. It’s too soon to determine that. I believe the theory that critically ill survivors will have far less immunity than others because of the T cell damage.

r193, right, and I wonder about those people who rationalize that children and young adults "hardly ever" die from it. How many deaths are acceptable when it comes to kids?

R196, before he went on Laura Ingraham's show, Dr. Phil said we were closing down because it meant we were protecting our seniors and that's what kind of a nation we are. Clearly, that's not the kind of nation we are anymore.

Florida new cases today: +11,458

R194, just out of curiosity, what did you find you used the most, and what did you not use?

Trump is a dark triad personality. He literally does not have the ability to empathize with anyone else's suffering. Doing what he things is good for himself at any given moment in time is the closest thing to morality or values he has.

R189 What are your thoughts on relocating from a city to a rural area with fewer people/cases? It's very tempting to me, after all it's the time honored historical way to avoid pestilence. On the other hand, in the city one has access to better medical care. On the OTHER other hand, what good is medical care if the city hospitals are overrun?

I just keep going around in circles with this.

One thing that absolutely did not help was the canned chicken breast. I hoped I'd at least be able to dress it up a little, but it was still slimy and gross no matter what i did.

The giant bags of cauliflower rice was a big help.

Buy a new refrigerator if yours is old. Our refrigerator died on a Friday night when New York was at the apex and we had several hundred dollars worth of food In the freezer and that was no fun.

Sylvia, does your university have a medical school? That might influence my decision making if I were you.

[quote] R181: Poor Nick. No legs, and crap lungs. Everything he needed for his career. If Cassandra is around, what pharma companies should we be looking at for all the drugs that will come out to address the post Covid complications?

Sorry, while I do take this virus quite seriously, I am not following individual pharma companies and their drug development, other than knowing to generally ignore anything the President says.

R202, drain the canned chicken in a small colander or strainer. Rinse it if you have to. Then shred it with a fork.

I used it in flour tortillas with no-salt canned black beans, shredded cheese, (which freezes very well), and diced bell peppers and onions with a little Valentina bottled hot sauce. You could use Rosarita refried beans too. If you’re finding the canned chicken texture doesn’t suit you, cook the beans, chicken, bell pepper and onions in a small pot on the stove first.

I have been using my stovetop and oven more than I have for years. It improves the texture of canned or frozen food. And tortillas freeze very well and don’t take up much room.

For me, it was lentils and sardines I used the most. Both easy to fix. And I found myself relying on potatoes a lot more than I thought I would. I ended up buying diced onion bags at Costco Business Center and freezing them. And bought bell peppers and carrots and sliced or diced them and froze them.

I used Better than Bullion all the time. It comes in a lot of flavors, they have large chicken and beef broth jars of it in the spice section at Costco. Smaller jars are at supermarkets.

I didn’t use much pasta, rice or pancake mix. It was too easy to gain weight when you’re at home all day.

I think Trump wants to go down in history with the most deaths of any President. I think he's getting off on it like a Columbine shooter.

R194 i am shoring up supplies that were hard to get like tp, paper towel, disinfectant, flour, rice etc. keeping the freezer full of chicken & fish. I predict by Mid-August we may be re-shut down because people are getting sloppy again.

Saw the eye dr, booked flu shots for early August too.

R203 Yes, a good one. It's a very research-intensive school and they have their own vaccine in development (but I haven't heard much about how that's coming along.) If we bugged out, we'd wouldn't go far. It gets quite rural within an hour's drive from town.

Just in from SCOTUS: Justice Kavanaugh rejects emergency application from Illinois GOP challenging gov’s ban on gatherings of more than 50 people as applied to political activity.

Chris Hayes: “The crisis we now find ourselves in is a human tragedy and an economic calamity. But it is also a singular national humiliation. We’re living through a moment where the U.S. is a laughing stock and a subject of pity around the world."

R201, are you thinking about a rural environment, or more like the suburbs? Also, small towns usually have small medical facilities that are easily overrun.

My dad’s family lived in a small town in the Midwest during the Spanish flu. It was a farm town, very few people traveled very far, but a lot of the neighbors got Spanish flu somehow anyway.

They lived on a farm, wore masks in town and never went anywhere unless they they couldn’t possibly help it and they were okay. Some neighbors died though. That town had 800 people.

Here’s the questions I would ask: where can you stay inside better and not go out? What about deliveries? Can you get grocery deliveries in a small town? Would you be staying with family? Will they mask up and stay home? Or are they careless?

There’s a lot of people on Reddit who moved back in with family because they lost their jobs, and Mom and Dad go out every day and refuse to wear a mask. It’s an impossible situation for them, because you can’t win an argument with stubborn older people.

Financially, can you afford to stay where you are for another year? Or are you going to be forced to move anyway? What will you do if your unemployment runs out, or you get laid off? Can you afford to keep living there?

If you have roommates or a bf, what’s their attitude about wearing masks and cleaning themselves after they go out? Is there a place to keep dirty shoes? Can you do your laundry dry inside your home without going out, including using a makeshift manual washer and hand drying your clothes somewhere?

If you did move, would you want to bring your current housemates with you? Does your family have a property where you’d be comfortable and financially secure elsewhere?

If you think you want to move, do it now.

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[quote] R189: If you’re living with a roommate that refuses to wear masks or social distance, start looking around for another place.

I am 100% in support of what R189 wrote. I wanted to mention my personal experience: My brother-in-law is a deplorable with toxic stupidity. I have no idea what he’s specifically doing about this pandemic, as he and my sister live a couple hours away, but I know him well, and he will risk his family’s health; their loved one’s health (meaning mine, for example); and their relationships, rather than wear a mask or even eliminate unnecessary trips and contacts. I worry about my sister and their son, as a result, but I fully expect my BIL to act deliberately in a way that puts them all at risk. He’s done it before in other ways, and it breaks my heart. I am powerless over it, except that I can eliminate my contact with them to preserve my own health and well-being. They are not roommates, as R189 refers to, but they are people with whom I otherwise would visit. I’m just going to not see them in person, for a good, long while. I’m guessing it will be more than a year.

[quote] Me: I’m guessing it will be more than a year.

I haven’t actually thought this through, in this specificity before just now. Now I want to strangle my BIL.

[quote] R190: If there’s no vaccine, and the best they can do is some sort of treatment, the next issue is what do uninsured or underinsured people do? My guess is, they keep working through it as long as they can, until they end up in the hospital, spreading it all the way.

So now the Deplorables and other sociopaths who were not moved by compassion, will understand why one should support Obamacare for the otherwise uninsured. Of course, we’ve all been put at risk, now.

"We were doing better than any country's every done in history, and then we got hit by this terrible plague from China, and now we're getting close to fighting our way out of it ... we're on our way to a tremendous victory. It's going to happen, and it's going to happen big."

From Trump's Fourth of July message.

[quote] R194: I've been working through my supply of apocalypse food that I bought back in March. I'm actually starting to think I should restock instead of using it all.

Me too, exactly. I’m going to restock this week. My regular supermarket (that delivers) is still having inventory problems, though my local market, (which doesn’t deliver) does not, so I’m going to have to shop, myself, for disinfectant, paper products and such at the local place.

R194, take care to rotate your supplies so that you finish your March purchases before tapping your July purchases. I learned that some of the canned goods I bought in Feb/Mar, while being perfectly fine, are also so much less desirable that I am unlikely to eat them unless forced, essentially, lol.

Getting closer to the truth of this virus! What a nightmare. Stay strong and watchful DL. We will get through this together. Schools are saying they will reopen here mid August. The virus is exploding .. will students and teachers have to sign a waiver? Who will be held liable for the inevitable illness and sadly death? What if someone tests+ .. then 2week closure

The argument is always - kids will be abused at home, they will lose out socially, they won’t get enough to eat.. No wonder why so many kids are barely literate at Graduation- the schools are trying to do too much. Why not address the needs of food, shelter and domestic life separate from School? Get food to families that need it and work on virtual/remote content being as good as it can be. As much as we want it will not be safe to go to school with an uncontrolled deadly/or severely debilitating virus going around

R206-

This hurricane season to Trump: Hold my beer.

R201, I thought of something else that really matters. If you lose your job and have moved to the new place, can you get a job there? How’s your car?

My mom moved to a small town when she lost her job and couldn’t afford rent in the city. She owned a small vacation cabin where she could stay rent free. That was the worst decision she ever made.

There were no jobs at all in the small town. Her car broke down and she couldn’t afford to get it fixed so now she was in a small town with no car and couldn’t commute to a job elsewhere. The nearest jobs were probably an hour away.

Then, she got very ill and had no insurance or car and couldn’t afford to go to the doctor. She ended up having a very serious illness at home alone. She didn’t know herself how sick she was because she was alone and there was no one to help her. We think now she nearly died alone there. The nearest hospital was in the next town too. She eventually did die of complications from that illness many years later.

I’m not saying don’t move to a small town. What I am saying is, what is your support group there? Do you have friends that live there or are willing to visit you there? A lot of people think one hour away is a deal breaker.

Once I was very sick myself, and not thinking right because I was so sick. My bf was out of town at a seminar for a couple weeks. I commuted a long distance and didn’t know anybody nearby. So I was screwed.

I called everybody I could think of and nobody would go to the pharmacy to get my antibiotics. I went three days without my medication because nobody I knew would get off their ass and help me. One person I knew was a couple of hours away and later, they said they would have gone. But they were so far, I didn’t even think of them when I was so sick. So living far from everyone is also a test of how devoted your circle of friends are.

I told myself after that experience I was going to be much more conscious about living someplace with no friends or family near, and I have been. If your family and friends are far away, and your casual acquaintance support group are coworkers, and you live an hour or more away from all of them, that’s a consideration, because casual acquaintances are not going out in the pouring rain, in a pandemic, in the middle of the night, to drive a long distance, to help you if something really bad happens.

If you are moving to an area with friends and family, you’re much better off.

Thanks R191. Interesting to see what people are saying/doing. Most people on there are smart - taking CV seriously and preparing.

R201 Sylvia, I am not R189, but I also live in a big city. I am not planning to move. I think similarly as you do, it seems by your post, but I would only move if you are rich enough to maintain homes both in and out of the city. Also, you may lose a bundle if you sold your city place now. Mostly, because it’s such an effort to move, and we really can’t know what might happen with this virus over time. I saw on TV, Ken Burns, I think, that the flu in 1918 infected otherwise isolated and self sustaining Western towns by traveling in, on the mail. Even if you disinfect the mail, you sometimes never know, until it’s too late.

R199, I am not R194. I am R212. I didn’t use canned mealsM besides tuna fish. Maybe because they tend to be meals I associate with the Winter, like soups; but also because they are a little gross. I know I eat them occasionally, but I over-estimated how often I do, it seems. I did use frozen meals, though. I think the key is to buy foods you naturally eat in any event, and disinfectants you likewise usually use.

As a nation we’ve been living on the razor’s edge in terms of our social infrastructure and this virus is exposing how weak America really is. Expect things to get a whole lot worse in the coming months.

R201, oh, about relocating, you also will need to reestablish relationships with your local everyone, including your your Primary Care Physician, which can be counterproductive in a pandemic.

I’m sorry but all these Doomsday prep posts are rather tedious.

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Love the guys leaning in to hear at the end of the video in R224. How about a little covid with your beer, idiots? Their own Prime Minister got COVID, the idiots.

Thanks R281 and Pierre/R220, you've given me a lot to mull over. We have a couple of different options.

1. Stay put and ride it out. Reserve the right to bug out later if things get truly desperate.

2. My partner just got an out of state job offer (Maine.) While the remoteness is appealing, I don't want to leave our support network. (And a multi-state move is hellish enough without trying to accomplish it in the middle of a pandemic!)

3. Move out of the city, closer to where my family lives. They all live scattered around in the small towns and rural areas north of Pittsburgh. We could hypothetically move to a house with acreage near a small college town that has amenities (curbside pick-up grocery, at least.) Both of our jobs are remote for the foreseeable future, but you're right that if we lost our jobs there's really no where to work without a long commute or hope for another remote job.

A lot of this has to do with not just infection worries, but everything that we live in the city for is basically dead so why keep paying high mortgage/taxes?

Thanks for letting me think out loud.

R224 The UK is toast. Seriously WTF is so bad about drinking at home?!

Hi Pierre!

Try allrecipes.com. Try the website of the canned food company. They have a lot of recipes using their food as the base for something else.

There’s a cookbook called Apocalypse Chow that was written by a woman who lived in hurricane country and they had annual power failures. She prepped by buying individual ingredients, including spices and sauces, and combined them to make pretty good meals. One thing she bought was baby food because it had no preservatives, no salt, and a lot of it is puréed or diced vegetables that could be used in soups or casseroles. Sometimes you have to think outside the box.

Some pantry staples I use are no-salt added canned black beans, tomato paste, canned fruit with no sugar added, shelf stable soy milk, hot cereals, and canned meats and fish, which last for years. Jiffy cornbread mix and crackers are shelf stable for about a year. Nuts and dried fruit. Green beans don’t hold their quality well when canned, but black and red beans do.

About canned soup, you can add black beans, onions, bell pepper, canned diced chiles, canned or fresh diced tomatoes, bacon bits, summer sausage, zucchini, canned chicken, salsa, or corn, frozen peas, carrots or spinach, or whatever leftovers you have in almost any soup. Vegetable soup is a good base for adding more vegetables. Canned chili is good with diced tomatoes, canned diced chiles and onions. When you’re looking for canned vegetables, always get no salt added if you possibly can. Choose low sodium soups if you can. If you’re eating canned goods often, it’s too much salt. Or just get Better Than Bullion and make your own. Meat, veggies, and pasta, beans or potatoes. Add Italian seasoning, parsley, turmeric (for yellow color) garlic and onions. The salt is in the bullion.

A lot of us have been pushed for years to think everything in a can or jar isn’t as good as fresh and we don’t consider what’s available. With limited freezer space, we’re going to have to figure out how to make what we can store palatable. I’m starting to think of canned food as a small miracle now. It’s cheap, lasts for years and needs no refrigeration.

People in England drink themselves sick in public, throw up in the street and fight. Vomit would be pure Covid if the person was infected. Plus they’re spewing virus out of their mouth as they’re spewing. Right after they were check to jowl in a crowded area. And drunk people are not known for being cautious. The bar owners must have been pitching a fit, because that’s the worst thing they could possibly do.

Things are going to go south there very quickly.

The strain circulating in Texas is more contagious than the original!

Evidence is growing that a mutated coronavirus strain, the main one circulating in the Houston area, is more contagious than the original virus in China.

“A summary of the data thus far suggests that this strain has gained a fitness advantage over the original and is more transmissible as a result,” said Joseph Petrosino, Baylor College of Medicine chair of molecular virology and microbiology. “It is safe to say this version is more infectious.”

Petrosino said that although Baylor hasn’t yet conducted a surveillance study, the area rate of positive tests and increase in hospitalizations point to a significantly higher prevalence of the virus strain now. He said Baylor is finding the mutated strain in as many as 80 percent of viruses it analyzes.

Thanks, R228!

i think Britons believe drinking alcohol will kill tne virus.

Well, R232, that’s one way to put disinfectants in the body!

About doctors, I changed insurance last year and all of my doctors are new.

It’s taken me two weeks to get an urgent telehealth appointment. All these doctors’ offices says they are short staffed and the doctors and staff work from home some days. Having no history with these doctors is making it worse, but several told me the soonest I could get in the office was five-six weeks, for an urgent issue. So it’s telehealth (after a two week wait) or nothing.

Something to think about if you have to change doctors.

[quote]Can someone better-versed in Texas government explain why these judges have so much power?

In Texas, the chief executive of county government is referred to as Judge Soandso.

We are witnessing a mutated/new strain that is more contagious, but less potent (less deaths). Which would be good.🤞

OR it is still same strain that is more contagious, but less potent (less deaths) due to the summer/warm weather. Which means we are fucked this Fall/Winter when it is more potent (a lot more deaths).😣

Go elsewhere, then, R223. These threads are important- the early ones may have saved my life, or at least my mental health. And may continue to do so, so kindly do your scolding in another thread.

Like R237, this thread may have saved mine and my loved ones lives, too. Back in February, it informed me. I went out and bought supplies when hardly any one else was shopping, making it easier and supplies available. And I sold my investments before they sold off. And I advised my siblings to do likewise, at least some of whom did.

United States- Cases have now increased in 39 states.

Again today Trump said if we weren't testing so much we would have fewer cases. He's so stupid I just want to smash his face in.

R238, I remember shopping in early February, and being astounded to go to Costco and see people with one pack of eggs in their basket. By the end of February, I was seeing multiple family members shopping as a group, buying one cart each stacked to the top, sometimes with nothing but toilet paper or water.

A lot of old people and foreigners did that. I guess the foreigners had lived through trouble at home and knew what to look for, and the old people just didn’t want to go out any more.

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ 🎉 JULY 4TH ~ 6:50 PM EST

🎂 HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA !

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 11,365,047

DEATHS: 532,693

CRITICAL: 59,314

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,934,172

DEATHS: 132,302

CRITICAL: 15,953

📊 WORLDOMETER.COM

😷 REAL PATRIOTS WEAR MASKS 🎊

every state increased. the only VT decreased.

[quote] R240: Again today Trump said if we weren't testing so much we would have fewer cases. He's so stupid I just want to smash his face in.

I thought at the time that Hillary didn’t respond effectively to accusations about her emails, because, well, [italic] there was something suspicious about them, [/italic] and she couldn’t understand what the problem with them was, as she underestimated the stupidity of half the population. Maybe Trump is trying to appeal to them again? As in, [/italic] Why, I don’t know xactly why, but thar’s somtin spicious about them thar positive tests! [/italic]

I do think Trump has a face made for throwing a show at.

He’s blaming China again for the virus. Taking no responsibility. Next time, those damn Chinese better contribute to his campaign or he’ll do much worse.

He also referred, inexplicably, to 1492 and Columbus’ trip. I think it was solely to piss off First Peoples and arouse the people who hate them. I mean the ones who hate most everybody. It’s so weird that he just can’t miss an opportunity to annoy people. That is truly a mental illness.

I call the city I live in on the Gulf Coast the Texas doorway for hurricanes. Since we are in hurricane season, I’ve already been stocking up for them, plus extra for virus shutdowns. I also live near Hotspot Houston. I save all my empty plastic gallon bottles from water or Hawaiian Punch that I will fill with water as soon as we have a tropical storm warning. Last hurricane we were out of water for many days.

It took a long time for our stores to restock toilet paper, paper towels, hand sanitizer, liquid soap. Get them while you can as the lockdowns will make them scarce. Because the slaughterhouse employees were getting sick from the virus, supply to the stores has slowed. Prices are up on some. I am buying extra meat and freezing it. Hamburg is essential as it is versatile. Get some hamburger helper for variety as it stays in your pantry for ages. I add onion or green peppers for variety.

My use of potatoes is up, so buy the bigger bags. I keep a lot of frozen vegetables in the freezer. Remember, you can freeze milk. Just make sure it isn’t a full container, as it expands when frozen. I use Starbucks bags of whole beans and grind my coffee fresh each day. I buy a couple extra pounds to be safe. I also buy extra dog food so I don’t have to make special trips to PetSmart. Did you run out of anything with the first lockdown? Better get some extra of it now.

Unfortunately I see no signs that U.S. industry has gotten its act together as far as trying to meet the basic needs of consumers (other than forcing people in meat packing plants to work themselves literally to death), so it seems to me that stocking up on nonperishable essentials in case of shortages seems reasonable to me. Hoarding, on the other hand, especially with an eye to reselling to desperate people at jacked up prices--I hope everybody who tries that gets robbed.

R246, don’t use milk jugs for water storage. No matter how much you clean them, milk enzymes can’t be cleaned out and the water will go bad. 8 drops of bleach per gallon for tap water storage.

Have you bought a water bladder for the bathtub? Water bladder water isn’t usually good for drinking, but works for flushing toilets and washing. You can google around and see if you can use it for drinking water in a pinch.

Pierre, or anyone that needs recipes to alter canned soup, here’s the Campbell’s soup recipes site.

[quote] The previous Florida record for coronavirus cases was on Thursday, when the state reported 10,109 cases.

[quote]The state also reported two new deaths on Saturday.

Sure. Over 10,000 cases and 2 little deaths in America's national nursing home. Florida Repugs can't even lie well.

Here’s the Campbell’s soup recipes for their other products as well. I didn’t know they also made V8, Prego sauces, Swanson, Pace and a bunch of other stuff. There’s lots of Bloody MARY! drink recipes for V8, and some food recipes too.

Big food manufacturers like this hire food scientists to make recipes for them, they’re not just grandma’s recipes. They have the recipes taste tested before they’re published.

Here’s the Progresso soup recipe site. Some of these look pretty good.

Sylvia’s theme song after moving upstate to cow town.

^I do like that single drum beat that ends the song.

R225..... and you just know he’ll let her go down on him 20 minutes later. Men are pigs....oh yes we are...

I just drove from SF to Half Moon Bay and the (closed) beaches were still packed 6 at pm. I also passed a house party where no one on the front lawn was social distancing or wearing a mask.

The closed and blocked-off Linda Mar parking lot was full of police cars and cops standing around talking as groups of people streamed onto the (CLOSED) beach from the Safeway plaza across the street.

Coming out of the tunnel, all hell broke loose. The road was was lined on each side with illegally parked cars as a single cop wrote tickets. The cones that had been set up to block parking on the sandy shoulders bordering the cliffs had been tossed aside and cars filled every inch of space. Lots with “no beach parking” signs were full and one sign had a Trump 2020 sticker covering the “no.”

We are doomed.

In posts about horrible new numbers, hospital closing, unmasked crowds, etc., it would be nice if people put where they are.

I'm in Illinois and I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that our numbers stay okay. I expect an uptick from opening up a little more over the last few weeks but keep watching just trying to keep the hope alive that there are enough responsible people here to keep things controlled.

No worries. Even COVID-19 can’t take the cold beaches in Pacifica. Is the nude beach at devils slide still popular?

I have zero faith in people. I believe the only thing that may save us/buy us more time is that CV19 *seems* to be weaker during the summer/warm weather. So far, a lot of infections, but low deaths (or a lot of people are dying and we don't know about it yet). Either way, time will tell...

R259, I don't think weather has anything to do with it at all. The lower number of deaths is just the red states that are now becoming the hot spots fucking lying their faces off.

I think people under 40 don’t care. They think they are immune and are spreading it around.

Sylvia needs to get a man who grew up in a cow town, but went to the city for finishing, and move back to his hometown. It is the only way I am making it in Trumplandia. Those cowboys do not practice ANY kind of hygiene, as cute as they are.

I think the lower number of deaths is the younger average infection age and better treatment protocols rather than the weather or a weaker virus.

I was reading that due to Covid, the next season of AHS is being pushed back to 2021. I guess that's going to be true for the filming of a lot of series and movies. We might not get a lot of new content for awhile. And yes, this is my biggest concern (because someone is bound to ask).

Who would have guessed? ...

London police determine drunks won't socially distance!

My wife finished her first film in March (one showing before the theaters closed) so I am hoping so I am selfishly hoping that the lack of new content helps her get a distribution deal.

[quote] I think the lower number of deaths is the younger average infection age and better treatment protocols rather than the weather or a weaker virus.

I believe this, and it appears to be the case in my neck of the woods. The initial hot spot was a small inner suburb with a large population of seniors. Many care homes, assisted living centres, and seniors' apartments as well. The death rate was high and I think the average age for fatalities was 80.

As that area stabilized, Covid took a more severe hold in poorer city boroughs where the population was younger. Not surprisingly, these new hot spots where heavily populated by lower level healthcare workers such as orderlies, cleaners, nurses' aides. As observed in other cities, the infection rate is high but the death rate has dropped.

I forgot...

Congratulations to your wife, Elderlez

R266 Wow, congrats to her. If the distribution deal happens, will you let us know so we can all stream it?

239 Experts With 1 Big Claim: The Coronavirus Is Airborne

The coronavirus is finding new victims worldwide, in bars and restaurants, offices, markets and casinos, giving rise to frightening clusters of infection that increasingly confirm what many scientists have been saying for months: The virus lingers in the air indoors, infecting those nearby.

If airborne transmission is a significant factor in the pandemic, especially in crowded spaces with poor ventilation, the consequences for containment will be significant. Masks may be needed indoors, even in socially distant settings. Health care workers may need N95 masks that filter out even the smallest respiratory droplets as they care for coronavirus patients.

Ventilation systems in schools, nursing homes, residences and businesses may need to minimize recirculating air and add powerful new filters. Ultraviolet lights may be needed to kill viral particles floating in tiny droplets indoors.

The World Health Organization has long held that the coronavirus is spread primarily by large respiratory droplets that, once expelled by infected people in coughs and sneezes, fall quickly to the floor.

But in an open letter to the W.H.O., 239 scientists in 32 countries have outlined the evidence showing that smaller particles can infect people, and are calling for the agency to revise its recommendations. The researchers plan to publish their letter in a scientific journal next week.

They were interviewing immunologists and other experts on CNN, and they said the virus mutated in February, and it is more aggressive, more contagious, and it has now spread beyond our ability to contact trace. The Hospitals are overwhelmed. So people can't get treatment in a hospital if they need it. Be very careful about these so-called low numbers. Don't trust them. Even the deaths. A lot of corona related deaths are not being counted.

[quote]it has now spread beyond our ability to contact trace.

One of the benefits of the lockdown was supposed to be that we drove the levels of the virus down far enough that contract tracing would be a) possible and b) effective. States reopened before they should have and contract tracing is now almost impossible -- even if states did have the infrastructure in place. Most don't.

R272 So did most countries. By the end of July the numbers will be much bigger in the US and huge throughout Europe.

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ JULY 5 ~ 10:50 AM EST

👙 NATIONAL BIKINI DAY

🍎 APPLE TURNOVER DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 11,424,843

DEATHS: 534,487

CRITICAL: 58,466

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,936,904

DEATHS: 132,355

CRITICAL: 16,017

📊 WORLDOMETER.COM

😷 LOOKING SMART !

Nowhere is really safe. Europe opened up to salvage some of the tourist season. By October they'll all be on lockdown.

CNN-Florida reports 9,999 new coronavirus cases

The state of Florida reported 9,999 new coronavirus cases on Sunday. That brings the total number of cases in Florida to 200,111.

This news comes one day after state officials announced 11,445 new daily coronavirus cases in Florida — which was an all-time high, according to state officials.

Florida also reported eight new deaths on Sunday. There have been 3,731 total deaths in the state.

RNC spokesperson says Republicans are committed to holding convention in Florida

From CNN's Sarah Westwood

Republican National Committees spokesperson Mike Reed told CNN that the party is committed to holding the convention in Florida but will be conducting temperature checks and have testing available for attendees.

“The RNC is committed to holding a safe convention that fully complies with local health regulations in place at the time. The event is still almost two months away, and we are planning to offer health precautions including but not limited to temperature checks, available PPE, aggressive sanitizing protocols, and available Covid-19 testing. We have a great working relationship with local leadership in Jacksonville and the state of Florida, and we will continue to coordinate with them in the months ahead.”

Why US tick season could be worse in the summer of Covid-19

From CNN's Ethan Harp After more than three months of shutdowns, mandatory quarantines, self-imposed exile from society and working from home, nature-lovers looking for a well-earned breath of fresh air could face a possible collision course between coronavirus and tick-borne illnesses this summer.

A "perfect storm," warns Eva Sapi, a University of New Haven biology professor and group director for the Lyme Disease Research Group.

Noting the mild winter on the US East Coast, Sapi says: "We do have a bad year for the ticks."

Hikers, campers and anyone else eager for an escape could "just explode into the outdoors. And there may not be the same thoughtful approach" to preventing exposure, explains Dr. Sorana Segal-Maurer, director of the Dr. James J. Rahal, Jr. Division of Infectious Diseases at NewYork-Presbyterian Queens health care system.

"I'm a little nervous that their guard may be down just a slight bit," she adds.

India once again records its highest daily rise in cases, as pandemic grows From CNN's Rishabh Pratap in New Delhi

India reported 24,850 new cases of the novel coronavirus on Saturday -- the country's largest single-day jump yet.

The country has now recorded 673,165 cases of the virus, and 19,268 deaths, according to its Ministry of Health and Family Welfare. India has 235,433 active cases, while 394,227 patients have recovered so far.

The western state of Maharashtra remains worst affected with 200,064 cases and 8,671 deaths, followed by the southern state of Tamil Nadu, which has recorded 107,001 cases, and the national capital Delhi, with known 97,200 cases.

India has tested more than 9.7 million samples for Covid-19.

Japan reports 274 new Covid-19 infections, as cases continue to rise From CNN’s Yoko Wakatsuki in Tokyo

Nearly half of those infections were in Tokyo, where the city's metropolitan government said people in their 20s and 30s were driving the spike in infections.

Saturday's figures followed 249 news cases on Friday and 194 on Thursday.

Japan now reported 22,234 confirmed cases, including 990 recorded deaths.

Government minister Yasutoshi Nishimura said on Sunday that the resumption of a state of emergency was not necessary, describing the new cases as “light or asymptomatic” and not a burden to Japan’s healthcare system.

Japan reports 274 new Covid-19 infections, as cases continue to rise From CNN’s Yoko Wakatsuki in Tokyo

Nearly half of those infections were in Tokyo, where the city's metropolitan government said people in their 20s and 30s were driving the spike in infections.

Saturday's figures followed 249 news cases on Friday and 194 on Thursday.

Japan now reported 22,234 confirmed cases, including 990 recorded deaths.

Government minister Yasutoshi Nishimura said on Sunday that the resumption of a state of emergency was not necessary, describing the new cases as “light or asymptomatic” and not a burden to Japan’s healthcare system.

Australian Medical Association calls for pause on easing Covid-19 restrictions as cases rise

From CNN’s Hilary Whiteman in Brisbane

There has been a spike in coronavirus cases in Melbourne, Australia, in recent days, leading to new lockdowns across the city, including over 3,000 people in public housing.

There has been a spike in coronavirus cases in Melbourne, Australia, in recent days, leading to new lockdowns across the city, including over 3,000 people in public housing.

“These new outbreaks send a strong signal that the other states should rethink the pace of easing of their Covid-19 restrictions until community transmission in Melbourne is under control to avoid the risk of a similar situation playing out in their own communities,” Bartone said.

Bartone said the outbreaks were “directly linked to failures to follow established and successful public health guidelines” and that Australia should play it safe before “rushing back to the pub, the footy crowds, or the big weddings and parties.”

Coronavirus cases have been rising sharply across the state of Victoria for nearly three weeks.

I’d like to R269/Sylvia! I am concerned about compromising our anonymity and getting doxxed though. Maybe we can figure out that burner email process thing when the time comes.

Sad for all of us, but the Republican strategy seems to be ignore it and band together in close proximity. They always close ranks but I never imagined they would willingly infect one another as a sign of unity. Even if hospitals collapse, then they can say it’s God’s plan. The rest of the world feels sorry for the United States.

Vegas was apparently VERY strict with no filming inside casinos this weekend so as not to give any more negative publicity. Apparently, the masks rule was being strongly enforced and people were even wearing them outside. Nonetheless, we'll see in a few days whether or not we'll start seeing casino shutdowns again. Since it was a relatively calm 4th weekend, we might have to wait a few more weeks to see if any action will be taken.

An article posted from behind pay wall of the Times

“ In the monsoon season of August 2012 a small team of scientists travelled to southwest China to investigate a new and mysteriously lethal illness. After driving through terraced tea plantations, they reached their destination: an abandoned copper mine where — in white hazmat suits and respirator masks — they ventured into the darkness. Instantly, they were struck by the stench. Overhead, bats roosted. Underfoot, rats and shrews scurried through thick layers of their droppings. It was a breeding ground for mutated micro-organisms and pathogens deadly to human beings. There was a reason to take extra care. Weeks earlier, six men who had entered the mine had been struck down by an illness that caused an uncontrollable pneumonia. Three of them died. Today, as deaths from the Covid-19 pandemic exceed half a million and economies totter, the bats’ repellent lair has taken on global significance. Evidence seen by The Sunday Times suggests that a virus found in its depths — part of a faecal sample that was frozen and sent to a Chinese laboratory for analysis and storage — is the closest known match to the virus that causes Covid-19. It came from one of the last droppings collected in the year-long quest, during which the six researchers sent hundreds of samples back to their home city of Wuhan. There, experts on bat viruses were trying to identify the source of the Sars — severe acute respiratory syndrome — pandemic 10 years earlier. The virus was a huge discovery. It was a “new strain” of a Sars-type coronavirus that, surprisingly, received only a passing mention in an academic paper. The six sick men were not referred to at all. What happened to the virus in the years between its discovery and the eruption of Covid-19? Why was its existence tucked away in obscure records, and its link to three deaths not mentioned”

wow!

ElderLez, I think the chances are very good that she'll get distribution- 2 of the films that I worked on were supposed to be released in August and September, but now they have been pushed to 2021 because we still had reshoots to do on both, which were supposed to have been done by the end of April. The bigger film pushed their reshoots to August (which I think will be pushed again), the smaller is TBD. Both film's budgets and production schedule has doubled because of C19 protocols, and I'll have to do the quarantine thing for the bigger film because it films in Atlanta, and I live in L.A.

Oh MrE that sounds interesting. I hope you will keep us updated on how the new filming protocols go. And how it is to quarantine away from home.

My wife’s film is a low budget documentary so I don’t think anywhere in the same league as what you are involved with, but she is doing well on the festival (all virtual now!) circuit.

Sorry, but It seems that Florida and some other states are pulling a "Russia". Reporting ALL of the cases and SOME of the deaths. Sure, treatments are better and more young people have skewed the numbers, but there is something very fishy about the numbers for Florida in particular. They have already stated that they do no include certain deaths for a variety of reasons, yada yada. But I find it very curious that they already report +10K cases today (nearly half of the total reported cases in the US so far), on a Sunday AFTER July 4th! Something doesn't smell right. Especially as they are only reporting a couple of handfuls of deaths.

We don’t care about your personal life

Very disappointing to read that some posters here seem be taking reported deaths in the US, especially in the red states, at face value.

To the DL member who keeps replying "everybody lies", I respectfully disagree. This is not a lie! It is a crime as people are dying as a result of false information. Please wake the fuck up! Honestly, I expect more from these threads...

We went to dinner last night..total of 6 of us. My friends boyfriend works at a fitness studio instructing classes and also works at a bar, well the bar has re-opened this is in VA - my husband and I were like, he works in a bar and fitness studio - that's the last time we will be seeing them for a while.

[quote] R234: About doctors, I changed insurance last year and all of my doctors are new...It’s taken me two weeks to get an urgent telehealth appointment... Having no history with these doctors is making it worse, but several told me the soonest I could get in the office was five-six weeks, for an urgent issue.

Once when I changed doctors, I made that initial visit appointment as a “well baby” appointment (for myself, I mean). This was 25 years ago and I’m sure wait times haven’t gotten better. After a many-week wait, I got my first appointment with my new doctor. After a brief meet-and-greet, he asked what my medical complaint was. I told him “nothing, I was just meeting you so that I could establish myself as a patient, and not wait forever when I have an actual, future medical need.” He smiled at my naïveté, it seemed to me. It got me what I wanted, at least.

When in my PCP’s office, I have heard him tell his staff to direct patients who needed an immediate visit with him to go to the ER, so in the few times I needed immediate attention in the last 15 years, I just went to the ER. I was admitted for 5 days, one of the times, after initially being sent home untreated. The next time, when the people in the ER triage tried to, again, send me away untreated, I literally said to them, [italic] “No, you tried to do this last time and you almost killed me. You sent me home untreated and I came back a week later with pneumonia. I was admitted and only left AMA after five days. THAT’S FIVE DAYS! My doctor wanted me to stay even longer, but YOU PEOPLE didn’t think I should spend 15 minutes here in the first place. YOU almost killed me, and I not going to let YOU do that to me again. I am not leaving here untreated.” [/italic] I think I probably did some pointing with my index finger as I spoke, lol. She looked pissed, but I got to quickly see a doctor. It also felt good that I got to yell at someone for not treating me before, and not wanting to treat me then, because not only was I literally on the verge of death at age 45 that prior time, but I really suffered between the time they turned me away, and when I went back and they finally admitted and quarantined me.

tl;dr: you need an advocate, even if it’s, of necessity, just yourself, to insist that you get proper treatment. Screw their feelings.

CNN:

FDA commissioner refuses to defend Trump claim

R296, lol, the FDA Commission keeps doing this long pause after each question as if he’s saying to himself “Damn, Lady! Give me a fucking break, that’s my boss you’re asking me about. I can’t call him an idiot on national TV!... oh, shit! Another question, of course he’s an idiot, but I’m not going to say it, common’, ask me a softball....”

Here is an intelligent twitter thread that a little supports what I said earlier (young people and better treatment), but says that those things are small potatoes compared to what is really going on with deaths. It is depressing, but almost certainly true.

Ex-Homeland Security Director Tom Bossert estimates the number of currently infected in hotspots:

• Arizona: 220,000

• California: 427,000

• Georgia: 150,00

• Texas: 416,000

"What are the hundreds of thousands of infectious people in these states doing right now? Isolating? Are their family members quarantining themselves? How many days does it take for them to notify people with whom they have been in close contact? Are they even notifying others?"

Ex-FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb today:

"We're not going to really be able to crush this virus at this point because there's just so much infection around. We really don't seem to have the political will to do it. "

Things going as expected on the college front:

• Penn State University announced 21-year-old student Juan Garcia died of respiratory failure from coronavirus complications last month.

• 121 students at the University of Washington in Seattle have tested positive for Covid-19.

• Kansas has suspended preseason voluntary workouts, effective immediately, after its latest round of testing showed 16 student-athletes have tested positive for COVID-

• 3 Georgia Tech athletes, 3 staff members test positive for Covid-19.

[quote]To the DL member who keeps replying "everybody lies", I respectfully disagree. This is not a lie! It is a crime as people are dying as a result of false information. Please wake the fuck up! Honestly, I expect more from these threads...

I'm not that poster, but my assumption is that he's quoting the oft-used comment from "House, MD." It usually refers to the patient being less than forthcoming about what they've been up to and it makes perfect sense when applied to these scenarios about people who know they have symptoms or exposures, but are out circulating in the community anyway instead of isolating like they know they should be. You just can't always count on people doing the right thing.

So in essence is Gottlieb saying we have to "live with it"? Because I'd like some pointers on how to do that when no one is playing from the same rulebook.

Cosmo in Vegas this weekend with everyone wearing masks. The author got into trouble with his original tweet, posted below in the comments, showing no one wearing a mask after Cosmo reopened. Not a lot of social distancing but Vegas will take whatever compliance they can get.

Gottlieb:

"We face a hard fall. We're going to take all of this infection into the fall and winter. It's not clear it's going to get better. We're going to have epidemics that come and go across the nation in different cities, they'll light up at different times."

He says we're diagnosing only 1 in 12 cases. "That means we have about 700,000 infections a day," so "we’re right back where we were at the peak of the epidemic." But now, instead of just NY, we "have 4 major epicenters of spread": cities in AZ, CA, FL & TX.

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R394, one of the things they could do is turn the sound off for all the gambling machines that are constantly making various noises.

I didn’t hear a lot of the usual manufactured loud noise in that clip, which makes it easier not to have to yell out your conversations. Some of the casinos have constant ringing, bells clanging, electronic noises, etc. That sounded mostly like talking.

r290, of course the red states are going to cook the books to please Trump, especially in terms of fatalities. Given the recent spikes in reported cases in Florida and Texas, you can just imagine what's actually going on down there. Yikes.

R308, no kidding. So what’s the real Florida death toll? 10x? It’s full of old people.

And a lot of them live in retirement communities full of republicans that are using their masks as eye covers like the Lone Ranger, breathing and coughing their congestive heart failure/Coronavirus germs all over the place. People who have congestive heart failure are often very cold, and cough more when it’s cold, so imagine what’s going to happen when it gets cold and they don’t wear a mask.

If r298 is accurate, then all this other talk is wasted text.

Remember Florida had almost 5000 extra "pneumonia" deaths between February and April. And that was before the shit hit the fan. I'd say 10x to 20x (or even more now) the reported numbers of dead would be more accurate.

Per the CDC, there were 918 deaths by pneumonia in 2019. So far in 2020 (as of 5/27) there are 5,185.

Nothing fishy about that!

Fyre Fest fraudster Billy McFarland contracts COVID-19 in prison

Coronavirus cases in New York drop after alarming uptick

New York’s coronavirus cases fell again Sunday, just two days after there were an alarming new 918 infections, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said.

The new cases statewide dropped to 533, closer to the state’s numbers before the spike on Friday, which was the highest since mid-June.

New infections were at 391 on June 29, then jumped to 918 on Friday, before falling again to 726 on July 4.

Eight coronavirus-related deaths were recorded on Sunday, bringing the statewide numbers to 32,157.

The new figures come after Cuomo encouraged New Yorkers on the Fourth of July to continue wearing masks.

“This July 4th remember — real patriots wear masks,” Cuomo wrote on Twitter.

swimming is now allowed in nyc beaches...

numbers will be going up.

What is the containment strategy? Have they just given up?

American couple fined $2,000 in Canada for defying quarantine orders

Brazil tops 1.6 million coronavirus cases, nears 65,000 deaths

From Journalist Marcia Reverdosa in São Paulo

Brazil's health ministry recorded 26,051 new Covid-19 cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the country's total confirmed cases to 1,603,055.

Brazil also reported 602 new deaths from the virus. The death toll is now at 64,867.

The country's new numbers come as its largest city, Sao Paulo, prepares to reopen bars, restaurants, beauty salons, barbershops and aesthetic clinics on Monday, and after Rio de Janeiro opened its bars and restaurants over the weekend.

Street shops and shopping malls in Sao Paulo will also be open for six hours starting Monday, after having operated four hours a day since they reopened on June 11.

r313 - COVID-19 is not the only thing he caught in prison.

We are going to start buying food and supplies to prep for when it gets bad here. Right now in Portland the numbers aren't bad. I've been going to the store too often and will need to cut back. I follow a whole food plant based diet and eat a lot of fresh veggies and fruit. I will have to start buying frozen.

🤗 Thank you, oh smart and savvy poster @r302.

That was my point exactly.

R320, check out this site. They sell freeze dried foods with years long shelf life. If you want a Whole Foods diet, don’t buy the prepared meals because most are high in sodium. But buying single vegetables and fruits will help fill in. They also sell powdered milk, tomato paste, butter, and eggs. Read the nutritional values information carefully and check for added ingredients. Look at the number of servings per can which can vary depending on the food. Read the reviews because some products rehydrate better than others. Whole food products come in 10# cans.

I’ve used the strawberries, they rehydrate and look and taste exactly like regular strawberries. You put most products in water in the fridge for twenty minutes to overnight before using.

Note: they have a four to eight week delay before shipping now, due to demand, so if you want something, buy it and you’ll get it about September.

Great. LDS businesses being advertised on gay sites now.

Don’t give them your money and then cry about how deep their pockets are next time their tentacles reach into your state and influence a vote which has an adverse effect on your life.

Sorry R323, I’ve been through enough shit this year. On top of all this Coronavirus stuff, my health has been terrible this year and I can’t go out.

If something makes it easier to live I’m going to do it. I’ve been through enough.

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Broadway star Nick Cordero passed away today from COVID-19 complications.

Nick Cordero has died. Poor guy.

R326. Oh wow. That is so sad. He was only 41.

R525, that’s Costco, isn’t it? They’ve got a really strict rule about masks. Anybody who goes there knows it’s not optional. Why doesn’t she go to another store where it is optional? I think it’s optional at regular markets for the most part. I’m not sure about Sams.

It is so sad about Nick passing away.

Some questions for scientist and WHO

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👙 NATIONAL BIKINI DAY

🍎 APPLE TURNOVER DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 11,556,640

DEATHS: 536,776

CRITICAL: 58,540

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,982,928

DEATHS: 132,569

CRITICAL: 16,038

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Packed party in the hills last night. LA, we are fucked!

Face recognition software and a good sniper will fix these parties pretty quickly.

Ugh. Young people don’t care.

It’s like they’re deliberately saying, I want to get the virus so when I recover I can laugh at everyone. But there’s no way to know if they would even survive it, let alone recover well.

Looks a bit like a sausage party.

There’s just not enough known about SARS-CoV-2 to be reckless. Who’s to say that in 20 to 30 years there might not be a significant increase in lung cancer rates because of young people being infected today?

Not just L.A. folks are dumb. Look at the gays partying in Fire Island.

[quote]Who’s to say that in 20 to 30 years there might not be a significant increase in lung cancer rates because of young people being infected today?

I suspect even asymptomatic cases may end up with chronic inflammation, which damages healthy cells, tissues and organs over time, leading to such diseases as cancer, heart disease, rheumatoid arthritis, obesity, asthma, Alzheimer's disease and diabetes. There's already indications that even asymptomatic covid-19 infections can trigger diabetes in heretofore healthy people.

CNBC: Results from the final stage of a nationwide antibody study showed some 5.2% of the Spanish population has been exposed to the coronavirus, health officials said on Monday, confirming findings from earlier stages and adding to evidence that so-called “herd immunity” to Covid-19 is not realistic.

R339, for a second I thought Jonah Hill was on Fire Island.

🤕 We're in lots more bigger danger, Gurls !

They didn't expose enough of their people to the virus, that's why! Get out to the Cheesecake Factory, everybody!

NYT: Black and Latino people in the U.S. are 3 times as likely to contract the coronavirus than their white neighbors — and nearly twice as likely to die, according to new data we obtained by suing the CDC.

FDA authorizes coronavirus antigen test that can yield results in 15 minutes

From CNN Health’s Lauren Mascarenhas The US Food and Drug Administration granted emergency use authorization on Monday for an on-site coronavirus antigen test that can yield results in 15 minutes.

Here's how the test works: The diagnostic test uses a device made by medical technology company Becton, Dickinson and Company that is a little larger than a cell phone to analyze samples, it said.

It detects bits of the coronavirus called antigens. It’s not a home test, but can be used by medical professionals in pharmacies, urgent care centers and doctors’ offices.

The test itself uses a standard nose and throat swab to collect samples, which are put into a small cassette for use in the device for analysis.

Because antigen tests are relatively quick and easy, they have been eyed as a potentially valuable screening tool to quickly test large amounts of people for the virus.

What antigen tests do: An antigen test looks for a piece of the Covid-19 virus – often the characteristic spike-like proteins on its surface ­– as opposed to the more common molecular coronavirus test, a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test, which looks for the virus’ genetic material. PCR tests are more accurate, but they are complex and take longer to deliver results – often days.

This is the second antigen test to receive emergency use authorization from the FDA.

Word of caution: Under an EUA, the agency can greenlight a medical product to address a public health emergency on an expedited basis. These products require further evaluation to receive full FDA approval. The FDA has authorized more than 160 tests under EUAs, including 136 molecular tests and 25 antibody tests.

While acknowledging the potential of antigen tests as a triage tool, the World Health Organization cautioned against their use in April, saying they are not terribly accurate. They generally have a 34% to 80% sensitivity range – meaning they correctly detect the virus just 34% to 80% of the time.

The BD antigen test is capable of 84% sensitivity, according to the company, which referenced clinical studies of the test at more than 20 sites across the US.

Antigen tests require a larger viral load than molecular tests to detect the virus. That means the sample must be taken correctly and must include enough of the virus for the test to find it.

While positive results are very reliable, a negative test should be followed up with a PCR test to be sure.

“Similar to all immunoassay tests, FDA recommends that negative test results be confirmed by a molecular method to confirm the result, if necessary, for patient management,” BD said in a statement.

The company already has 25,000 testing devices in use in labs and hospitals across the US to detect flu and strep. BD said it plans to manufacture up to 10 million coronavirus tests for use in the devices by September and 2 million a week by the end of September. Dave Hickey, president of Integrated Diagnostic Solutions for BD, said the company plans to expand internationally as regulatory conditions are met.

FDA authorizes coronavirus antigen test that can yield results in 15 minutes

From CNN Health’s Lauren Mascarenhas The US Food and Drug Administration granted emergency use authorization on Monday for an on-site coronavirus antigen test that can yield results in 15 minutes.

Here's how the test works: The diagnostic test uses a device made by medical technology company Becton, Dickinson and Company that is a little larger than a cell phone to analyze samples, it said.

It detects bits of the coronavirus called antigens. It’s not a home test, but can be used by medical professionals in pharmacies, urgent care centers and doctors’ offices.

The test itself uses a standard nose and throat swab to collect samples, which are put into a small cassette for use in the device for analysis.

Because antigen tests are relatively quick and easy, they have been eyed as a potentially valuable screening tool to quickly test large amounts of people for the virus.

What antigen tests do: An antigen test looks for a piece of the Covid-19 virus – often the characteristic spike-like proteins on its surface ­– as opposed to the more common molecular coronavirus test, a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test, which looks for the virus’ genetic material. PCR tests are more accurate, but they are complex and take longer to deliver results – often days.

This is the second antigen test to receive emergency use authorization from the FDA.

Word of caution: Under an EUA, the agency can greenlight a medical product to address a public health emergency on an expedited basis. These products require further evaluation to receive full FDA approval. The FDA has authorized more than 160 tests under EUAs, including 136 molecular tests and 25 antibody tests.

While acknowledging the potential of antigen tests as a triage tool, the World Health Organization cautioned against their use in April, saying they are not terribly accurate. They generally have a 34% to 80% sensitivity range – meaning they correctly detect the virus just 34% to 80% of the time.

The BD antigen test is capable of 84% sensitivity, according to the company, which referenced clinical studies of the test at more than 20 sites across the US.

Antigen tests require a larger viral load than molecular tests to detect the virus. That means the sample must be taken correctly and must include enough of the virus for the test to find it.

While positive results are very reliable, a negative test should be followed up with a PCR test to be sure.

“Similar to all immunoassay tests, FDA recommends that negative test results be confirmed by a molecular method to confirm the result, if necessary, for patient management,” BD said in a statement.

The company already has 25,000 testing devices in use in labs and hospitals across the US to detect flu and strep. BD said it plans to manufacture up to 10 million coronavirus tests for use in the devices by September and 2 million a week by the end of September. Dave Hickey, president of Integrated Diagnostic Solutions for BD, said the company plans to expand internationally as regulatory conditions are met.

Cross your fingers, folks.

[quote] Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer is developing four coronavirus vaccines — but it may have struck gold on the first try. On July 1, the company released the preliminary results for its first coronavirus vaccine trial, and based on the available data, Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine appears to have triggered a strong immune response in study participants. Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine appears to be both effective and tolerable. "Our first vaccine candidate is eliciting antibody levels to neutralize the virus that is equivalent to or better than what you see in people who have had COVID-19," Phil Dormitzer, a Pfizer vaccine developer, told ABC News.

Further potentially good news.

"After identifying the kinases that SARS-CoV-2 depends on for survival, the scientists compiled a list of existing drugs known to target many of these kinases. If these drugs could successfully interfere with kinase activity in infected cells, they might be able to stop the virus in its tracks.

The scientists tested 68 such compounds and found that those that interfered with the activity of the CK2, p38/MAPK and CDK pathways exhibited potent antiviral activity without being toxic to cells, suggesting that a combination “cocktail” of these drugs could prove to be an effective way to treat COVID-19."

Question - employers who received PPP loans are now paying employees. If those employees are honest, they stopped receiving Unemployment benefits, correct? So the Unemployment numbers reported in May and June are bogus.

Add to that this “temporary” re-opening of restaurants and casinos and the numbers are REALLY fudged.

Does anyone believe that the economy and job numbers aren't all smoke and mirrors right now?

R351, Trump supporters believe the numbers. Then again they believe everything Dipshit J. Turd tells them.

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Bring your kid to a Covid 19 party, give them hydroxyquine, watch them die, beg for money, blame the deep state.

Not, arrested.

Sadly I don’t think she is far off.

I’m getting really scared, and now we can’t even go anywhere.

In the liberal area of SF and the Peninsula, Latinos make up the overwhelming majority of cases. They have also begun hiding hospitalizations for San Mateo county - they are not including San Quentin transfers .. I guess they don’t count as people :(

Meanwhile in China....

On top of everything, r354, she named her daughter Carsyn???

3M reported cases now in the US according to Worldometer

Miami-Dade County recloses restaurants (remain open for delivery and pick-up), gyms, party venues and short-term rentals effective Wednesday.

Princeton will welcome some undergraduate students back to campus this fall

From CNN's Elizabeth Hartfield

Princeton University will welcome undergraduate students back to campus in the fall with a reduced capacity, the school announced on Monday.

First-year and juniors will be allowed to return to campus for the fall semester, while sophomores and seniors will be welcomed back in the spring semester.

Most academic instruction will remain online, however. Princeton will discount tuition for all students by 10% for the school year.

Here are some safety guidelines the school will implement:

Every person on campus, including visitors, will be required to wear a face covering when inside at all times, except for when they’re in their dormitory or apartment.

Everyone will also be required to be tested for Covid-19 before returning to campus and regularly throughout the semester.

Additionally, undergraduate students returning to campus must sign what the university is calling a “social contract” which outlines their commitment to following the health and safety protocols designed by the school.

Holy crap @ r354. That “mother” should be arrested and tried for murder.

Harvard's fall classes will all be delivered online

From CNN's Elizabeth Hartfield

Harvard University is planning to bring up to 40% of undergraduates back to campus for the fall semester, including all first-year students, the school announced today.

In addition to first year students, Harvard will allow students who need to be on campus “to progress academically” to return as well.

All course instruction however, will be delivered online, including students who are living on campus.

Those returning to campus will be required to be tested when they arrive and then regularly throughout the semester, among other safety protocols including social distancing and dedicated quarantine space in dorms.

If the school maintains their 40% capacity for the spring semester, first-years would return home and the priority is to allow the senior class to return to campus.

The school anticipates making a final decision about that matter in December.

Harvard's fall classes will all be delivered online

From CNN's Elizabeth Hartfield

Harvard University is planning to bring up to 40% of undergraduates back to campus for the fall semester, including all first-year students, the school announced today.

In addition to first year students, Harvard will allow students who need to be on campus “to progress academically” to return as well.

All course instruction however, will be delivered online, including students who are living on campus.

Those returning to campus will be required to be tested when they arrive and then regularly throughout the semester, among other safety protocols including social distancing and dedicated quarantine space in dorms.

If the school maintains their 40% capacity for the spring semester, first-years would return home and the priority is to allow the senior class to return to campus.

The school anticipates making a final decision about that matter in December.

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ JULY 6 ~ 1:20 PM EST

🍗 INTERNATIONAL FRIED CHICKEN DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 11,652,385

DEATHS: 538,513

CRITICAL: 58,703

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 3,005,724

DEATHS: 132,684

CRITICAL: 15,990

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Coronavirus cases are rising in Texas child care facilities From CNN's Alta Spells and Kay Jones

Texas Department of Health and Human Services reported at least 1,335 positive Covid-19 cases throughout the state's open child care facilities.

Of those cases, 894 are among staff and 441 are children, a spokesperson for the state department said.

The positive cases are reported in 883 of the state's child care facilities. The department said that there are 12,220 open child care operations throughout the state.

How these numbers compare: On May 15, the state reported a total of 59 cases in 53 child care facilities — 36 staff and 23 children. And on June 15, there were 210 reported cases in 177 facilities, 141 staff and 69 children.

He’s better off, surviving with shot lungs and no legs was going go be a horrible existence. I feel for his wife, she tried to stay so optimistic.

Americans want to escape to New Zealand during coronavirus

More Americans are looking to flock to New Zealand amid the coronavirus pandemic — with the kiwis effectively “eliminating” the deadly disease, according to a report.

The South Pacific nation said 80,000 Americans sought out information in May on how to emigrate there — a 65 percent jump compared to the same time last year, the Guardian reported.

New Zealand has reported fewer than 1,500 coronavirus cases and only 22 deaths after a stringent lockdown.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced in early June that they were “confident we have eliminated transmission of the virus in New Zealand for now.”

“While the job is not done, there is no denying this is a milestone,” Ardern said at the time.

But despite the pandemic under control, the borders remain closed to foreign nationals, with only a few exceptions granted to essential workers, the outlet reported.

The US has continued to lead the world in coronavirus cases with more than 2.8 million infections, according to the latest figures from Johns Hopkins University.

Child care/Day care centers are prime breeding grounds for young children.

To keep a watchful eye on everything they do, you'd need a ratio of one adult per each child. Kids don't understand the seriousness of what's going on. Many don't understand it at all. And those tiny little hands are everywhere, touching, tasting, eating whatever falls on the floor, grabbing, pulling ........... Not exactly the safest of places.

[quote]And those tiny little hands are everywhere, touching, tasting, eating whatever falls on the floor, grabbing, pulling

Ya fuckin pedo!

I've always called children walking flesh bags of infection.

[quote]Child care/Day care centers are prime breeding grounds for young children.

There's mounting evidence that young children don't transmit the virus very efficiently. It appears that youngsters are most commonly affected by adults. I'm not sure what the cut-off age for "young child" is, though.

[quote] Americans want to escape to New Zealand during coronavirus

The Other Gay Pete (Peter Thiel) has a residence in New Zealand to ride out the Apocalypse. Which Apocalypse? Take your pick.

[quote] Billionaire venture capitalist Peter Thiel led Silicon Valley's elite to buy doomsday bunkers in New Zealand

[quote] The Silicon Valley tech elite, perhaps out of mere wealth and circumstance, have begun investing in apocalypse preparations in recent years.

[quote] Buying up real estate to serve as hideaway bunkers is one such step taken — and New Zealand has become a popular place to do so.

[quote] The Valley's enthusiasm for New Zealand as an apocalyptic refuge could be traced back to a book cited as most influential to Peter Thiel, and whose ideology was then dispersed to other big players in the tech arena.

This is what happens when your life is in the hands of a man who can’t even manage his own face, R355.

His last directive amounted to, “I didn’t intend to apply for a variance and it wasn’t actually my intention to align with the redneck parts of the state but — oops! — here we are. Everything’s opening tomorrow. You’re on your own now, guys. Be best! Did I mention I reallllly want my kids back in school?”

Our only saving grace thus far has been a large Chinese population that wears masks, but even they can’t balance the people pouring in to our open bars, gyms, hair salons, and indoor dining.

Peter T. financially supported the Trump for President campaign. But he always had a Plan B. (as billionaires do) in case Trump blew up the world, or say, catastrophically mishandled a pandemic: Retreat to a New Zealand Bunker and let the peasants burn.

Welcoming Arizona to the 100K Club!

Coming Soon: Georiga

CNBC: The number of people hospitalized with Covid-19 grew by 5% or more Sunday in 23 states, based on a seven-day moving average, according to data compiled by the Covid Tracking Project,

California is now asking Colusa, Madera, Marin, Merced, Monterey & San Diego counties to close indoor operations for:

-Restaurants

-Wineries

-Movie theaters

-Zoos, museums

-Cardrooms

Bars must close ALL operations.

What good is closing one county when everything is allowed to stay open in a neighboring one?

There’s no indoor dining in Santa Clara County and San Francisco but right between the two, in San Mateo County, the restaurants that have chosen to reopen their dining rooms are packed. And as for maintaining six feet of space between tables; don’t count on it.

Nomiki Konst recently said on the Damage Report that NOBODY in AZ is social distancing or wearing a mask. I know a family there with young kids that recently came down with COVID, all at the same time. That's a pretty damn dangerous situation to be in.

I’m receiving several packages that have passed through Arizona and Texas on the truck. I’ve been tracking them. I’m assuming they must open the doors and add more stuff as they go.

I’m afraid to even put them in the garage.

Just leave them outside for a porch pirate and make a big bowl of popcorn.

My aunt (aged 74) lives in Tucson and she and her friends are TERRIFIED. drs in the area have told citizens to assume anyone they encounter on the street, in stores etc has Covid. She hasn’t been able to visit her husband in assisted living since April because it’s too risky. It’s really really sad and still a bunch of deplorablesall over the area who won’t wear masks.

Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms announces she has the coronavirus:

Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro has Covid-19 symptoms and has taken a test; results are due by noon tomorrow, says CNN.

If Bolsonaro dies can we list his cause of death as irony in his obituary.

[quote]Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro has Covid-19 symptoms and has taken a test; results are due by noon tomorrow, says CNN.

*fingers crossed*

Oh no. Keisha Lance Bottoms is one of my favorite drag queens

Has Trump sent Bolsonaro his very own a state-of-the-art ventilator?

[quote] If Bolsonaro dies can we list his cause of death as irony in his obituary.

And yeah, I really do think.

A group of scientists have said that the virus is airborne and not just spread by an infected person breathing directly into your space.

If that's true, what do they want us to do to protect ourselves? (Short answer appears to be "masks for all".)

Recommendations start at 1:45

R390 googles or safety glasses would probably be a good idea. Go on the online eyeglass sites, they sell googles that fit with or without eyeglasses. I’ve been thinking about buying some.

Every time I think it’s too much, it just gets worse.

🤓 Googles ?

^ you know Google is taking over the world when they spell-correct goggles.

So if you're asymptomatic, test positive, but never manifest symptoms, then you're a carrier. Will you always have it in your system, like Herpes, or does it go away, like other CVs? Because if it's always in your system, then that is kinda fucked, since everywhere will be testing for it, and will deny entry to whatever you're trying to get into: airport, work, schools, etc..

Nobody knows what long-term complications might bedevil an asymptomatic carrier but asymptomatics won’t test positive for long.

Are we just watching and waiting with no plan?

R396 Pretty much.

R396, Trump has no plan, so you can either go with the local governor or mayor’s plan, or form your own plan. And honestly, when have you ever blindly believed the government? They whitewash everything.

Even now they’re underestimating the number of future deaths. The last number they gave out as total deaths will probably be passed by the end of the Month, if not earlier. Then what? Everybody just quits dying right before the winter? No.

The government can only give vague recommendations. The in-depth plan is on you.

I really recommend to people who feel like they’re sort of flailing around, please go on some prepper websites. Those people are pretty good at brainstorming possible issues. The ones who have lived through a disaster talk about what they learned.

I’m kind of sensing a lot of people here who are at a loss. They don’t know what’s next. If you take the time to read up, you will have a better idea what could be next and you’ll be able to plan for it. It helps make your thoughts more orderly. Plenty of military on prepper sites, they’ve seen all sorts of disasters in foreign countries. It’s helpful to hear their experiences. There’s a lot of, “if I had only known then what I know now.” Might as well benefit from somebody else’s experience.

Another good resource is Mormon prepper sites. No, I am not Mormon, but a lot of preppers listen to Mormons because they’ve been doing it for hundreds of years, and it’s a large pool of practical knowledge. Also, they’re not overly political on their sites so that’s nice.

Another good resource is Mennonites and Amish. Lehman’s caters to homesteaders, people living off grid and Amish. Just roaming around their site might give you some ideas.

I don’t have a crystal ball. But research is always worth doing.

R396, let me put it to you another way. Sit down with your partner or friends and brainstorm what could happen. What usually happens in fall and winter where I live? Winter snowstorms, power failures, broken trees, frozen pipes. Okay, imagine that happens and you have to already have the stuff to deal with that in your house with you. Now what?

This is where reading comes in. How did others deal with this? What did they say was the most efficient or comfortable solution? Because chances are pretty good you’re not going out in December to fetch what you need.

Think over the most likely scenarios where you are. What if I get sick? What if I get a migraine, a cold or flu, what if my allergies act up? What if I can’t get my meds? Is there some over the counter stuff I could use for a week or two until until I can get a delivery? If the power goes off for a week, is it warm enough in my house? Do I need firewood, battery lights, a generator, chargers, more blankets? You have time now to caulk and weatherstrip drafty spots.

Look at worst case scenarios for your area. What’s happened before? Okay, what do I do if that happens? Can I handle it myself and not need to go out? Clogged toilets, flu meds, Claritin, extra lightbulbs. Whatever happens where you live. It’s just a methodical way of thinking. Make a list of probable issues and look for the solutions for each.

Thank you R399. Thank you DL you have kept me going through this time.

More bad Covid-19 news. Kids can suffer brain damage from the virus.

Oh well, schools gotta open!

cnn-EU forecasts deeper recession than previously expected

The European Union's economy will experience an even deeper recession than previously anticipated in 2020 due to the pandemic, according to the European Commission’s latest economic forecast.

Its economy is now expected to contract by 8.3% this year, compared to the previous forecast of a 7.4% contraction. The Commission anticipates the economy to grow 5.8% in 2021 -- a weaker rate than its previous forecast.

“The economic impact of the lockdown is more severe than we initially expected. We continue to navigate in stormy waters and face many risks, including another major wave of infections," Valdis Dombrovskis, EU Commission Vice President, said in a press release on Tuesday.

cnn-EU forecasts deeper recession than previously expected

The European Union's economy will experience an even deeper recession than previously anticipated in 2020 due to the pandemic, according to the European Commission’s latest economic forecast.

Its economy is now expected to contract by 8.3% this year, compared to the previous forecast of a 7.4% contraction. The Commission anticipates the economy to grow 5.8% in 2021 -- a weaker rate than its previous forecast.

“The economic impact of the lockdown is more severe than we initially expected. We continue to navigate in stormy waters and face many risks, including another major wave of infections," Valdis Dombrovskis, EU Commission Vice President, said in a press release on Tuesday.

cnn-I got Covid-19 two months ago. I'm still discovering new areas of damage From CNN's Richard Quest

The cough has come back, without warning and seemingly for no reason; so has the fatigue. True, neither are as debilitating as when I had the actual virus, but they are back.

Like many others, I am now coming to realize that I am living and suffering from the long tail of Covid-19.

I got infected back in mid-April. The onset of symptoms came quickly. I suddenly noticed I was feeling very tired and I had a new cough. I got tested and the morning after I received a phone call from the medical center, I had tested positive for coronavirus.

The virus is like a tornado. When it lands, it swirls through the body, causing chaos, confusion, coughs, wreaking damage to each organ it touches. Some won't survive its visit. For those that do, when it has gone, one surveys the damage to the human landscape and realizes it's much greater than first thought. My symptoms were on the milder side: I never had breathing difficulties, or loss of sense or smell. I was wiped-out tired and I always had "the cough," which has now returned.

I have tested negative for the virus and positive for the antibodies, and my doctor says it won't return. But there are days when I feel that it has.

I am also discovering new areas of damage: I have now become incredibly clumsy. I was never the most lissome person, no one ever called me graceful, but my clumsiness is off the chart. If I reach for a glass, or take something out of a cupboard, I will knock it, or drop it on the floor. I have tripped over the curb and gone flying. I fall over furniture. It is as if that part of my brain, which subconsciously adjusts hand and movement to obstacles it sees, isn't working.

At times there's a sense of mild confusion. The micro delay in a thought, the hesitation with a word. Nobody would notice but me.

For those who have not had Covid, or witnessed the mess it leaves behind, again, I urge you, do whatever you can to avoid this tornado.

It will roar through the body -- kill some on the way -- injure all in its path -- and then when you think "well, thank God that's gone," look around, the damage is strewn everywhere and will be with you long after the crisis has passed.

cnn-I got Covid-19 two months ago. I'm still discovering new areas of damage From CNN's Richard Quest

The cough has come back, without warning and seemingly for no reason; so has the fatigue. True, neither are as debilitating as when I had the actual virus, but they are back.

Like many others, I am now coming to realize that I am living and suffering from the long tail of Covid-19.

I got infected back in mid-April. The onset of symptoms came quickly. I suddenly noticed I was feeling very tired and I had a new cough. I got tested and the morning after I received a phone call from the medical center, I had tested positive for coronavirus.

The virus is like a tornado. When it lands, it swirls through the body, causing chaos, confusion, coughs, wreaking damage to each organ it touches. Some won't survive its visit. For those that do, when it has gone, one surveys the damage to the human landscape and realizes it's much greater than first thought. My symptoms were on the milder side: I never had breathing difficulties, or loss of sense or smell. I was wiped-out tired and I always had "the cough," which has now returned.

I have tested negative for the virus and positive for the antibodies, and my doctor says it won't return. But there are days when I feel that it has.

I am also discovering new areas of damage: I have now become incredibly clumsy. I was never the most lissome person, no one ever called me graceful, but my clumsiness is off the chart. If I reach for a glass, or take something out of a cupboard, I will knock it, or drop it on the floor. I have tripped over the curb and gone flying. I fall over furniture. It is as if that part of my brain, which subconsciously adjusts hand and movement to obstacles it sees, isn't working.

At times there's a sense of mild confusion. The micro delay in a thought, the hesitation with a word. Nobody would notice but me.

For those who have not had Covid, or witnessed the mess it leaves behind, again, I urge you, do whatever you can to avoid this tornado.

It will roar through the body -- kill some on the way -- injure all in its path -- and then when you think "well, thank God that's gone," look around, the damage is strewn everywhere and will be with you long after the crisis has passed.

R394 you aren’t stupid at all. Even if the virus doesn’t come back like herpes, people have viral fragments in their systems and can test positive for those after they are no longer infectious to others. Some entities that are screening are choosing not to test people who have had documented infection in the past for that reason.

Orlando Sentinel: ICU units at five hospitals in Central Florida were at full capacity on Monday, as the state reported more than 6,000 new cases of coronavirus and 47 deaths.

Reuters: Hospitalizations jump by 50% as new coronavirus cases soared in California over the July Fourth weekend.

Arizona Central: Hospitalizations in inpatient and ICU beds and ventilators in use by COVID-19 patients rose on Sunday to their highest reported levels since hospital data reporting began in early April.

[quote] Orlando Sentinel: ICU units at five hospitals in Central Florida were at full capacity on Monday, as the state reported more than 6,000 new cases of coronavirus and 47 deaths.

Welcome back!

R402, “oh well” is Trump’s entire policy about Coronavirus in a nutshell.

R398 Those are good suggestions, but I don't believe we'll see anything like power outages or lack of basic utilities no matter how bad the infection numbers get. We've had the example of the meat processing plants to show us that no matter what, people WILL be forced to work critical jobs.

What we will see, I think, are: Positive percentages so high that potentially anyone you encounter could be an infectious carrier, and the inability to get medical attention. I don't think we'll see any further blanket shutdowns, despite that being what is desperately needed.

We need to be locking ourselves down and planning accordingly, so I definitely echo everything you said in R399. Stock up on your meds, pets' meds, foods, make sure your pets are up to date on their vaccines, if you haven't got a thermometer yet, get one, and a pulse oximeter too if you can find one that isn't being price gouged.

R411, I wasn’t referring to grid down situations that are Coronavirus related, necessarily, just some parts of the country are down every year for weeks. Rachel Maddow lives out in the country in Massachusetts or somewhere, and every year there’s power failures because the wires are above ground and not buried. Storms bring them down. And then there’s hurricane season as usual if you live in the Southeast.

As we’ve all observed here, every time there’s a heavy winter storm in the northeast, everyone goes out and gets eggs, bread and milk, and the shelves are stripped bare. Oh no you don’t, not this year. And this would not be the year I’d wait until the last minute to get plywood to board my windows if I was in hurricane country. Buy the plywood now. You do not want to be driving all over looking for plywood. Or paying some ridiculous amount for it.

Here’s some stuff I’d prep for: Imodium for diarrhea, get a plumber’s snake and make sure you have a good plunger, check the hoses under the sinks and toilets for leaks right now and get your toilet hoses replaced now if they need it, find out where you turn off the main water to the house if something breaks, if you need the handyman, get him out now. Later is even worse. YouTube is a good resource for videos on household repairs.

Also, think about getting an Instant Pot or crockpot. You’re going to be cooking a lot more than you’re used to.

Melbourne is in lockdown. Still smug, Australia?

R413 Yes.

At least we are shutting down before we are in the tens of thousands. And we are NOT in denial of the disease and its threat.

Protective gear for medical workers begins to run low again.

A national nursing union is concerned that gear has to be reused. A doctors association warns that physicians’ offices are closed because they cannot get masks and other supplies. And Democratic members of Congress are pushing the Trump administration to devise a national strategy to acquire and distribute gear in anticipation of the crisis worsening into the fall.

“We’re five months into this and there are still shortages of gowns, hair covers, shoe covers, masks, N95 masks,” said Deborah Burger, president of National Nurses United. "They’re being doled out, and we’re still being told to reuse them.”

I can't believe N95 masks are still in shortage! I thought 3M was making them round the clock 24/7?

Florida's Tuesday report

7347 residents and 14 non residents test positive

16.27 percent positive from 48,538 tests

63 deaths

Probably still selling them to China.

Climate scientists a few years back predicted that when the earth began warming, and ice began to melt, it would release viruses we had never experienced, some of them extremely lethal. Is this the beginning of what’s to come?

Brazil’s Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

[quote]Is this the beginning of what’s to come?

Yes.

You don’t say!

[quote]Probably still selling them to China.

Or giving them to Russia.

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ JULY 7 ~ 12:20 PM EST

🍫 CHOCOLATE DAY

🍧 STRAWBERRY SUNDAE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 11,818,089

DEATHS: 542,798

CRITICAL: 57,941

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 3,056,589

DEATHS: 133,268

CRITICAL: 15,198

📊 WORLDOMETER.COM

😷 PUT IT ON ~ KEEP IT ON !

R420, Serves him right!

"If you can't wear a mask and wash your hands and social distance, I've got no respect for you"

Hollywood actor Tom Hanks speaks out on his thoughts about preventing the spread of coronavirus

The good news is: My doctor signed off on getting me a MMR booster, in the off chance it will help combat coronavirus. Worst case, I'm extra-safe from MMR this winter.

The bad news: I have to venture into a hospital annex building to get it. Yikes.

Wonder if Trump is glad he moved to FL from NY. Someone at Mar-a-Lago has probably tested positive by now. He’s gone from living in a state with a smart Governor to a dipshit like himself.

R399, great advice. Sadly, here in California, the most predictable disaster is wildfire season, which starts in Aug/Sept and lasts a few months. The recommended protection? N95 or P99 masks, which are almost impossible to come by unless you want to play counterfeit roulette. A regular face covering does nothing against

Lots of us had extra masks from past seasons, most of which were donated to health care workers when local facilities ran out in the spring. Once again, those with the luxury of sheltering in place--with sealed windows and air purifiers--will be protected, while those who have to venture outside will risk lung damage, further compounding their COVID vulnerability.

Not even mentioning earthquakes, which would be a disaster of biblical proportions.

No surprise. US deaths are significantly higher today after the weekend/holiday reporting lags. +117 deaths in Arizona compared to 1 death yesterday.

Let's hear it for Georgia, now part of the 100K Club!

But who will be No. 10? Pennsylvania's not that far away, but slowing down. North Carolina is well behind the Keystone State, but has a much higher dailies.

Unfortunately, the situation is beginning to spiral out of control. 9 countries are reporting more than 100 deaths today. Although the numbers are definitely better (for now) in Europe and in the US relative to the previous peak, a true disaster is unfolding around the world. Meanwhile, here in Europe, the roads are beginning to swell with holiday travellers. I have the same fears that I had in February and March watching the cars and campers return after winter break. What horrors will they bring back?

The reopening of indoor dining restaurants and outdoor bars, originally scheduled for July 13, will be delayed, San Francisco Mayor London Breed announced at a press conference Tuesday.

Ohio Gov. Mike Dewine institutes a mask mandate for 7 counties and advises residents not to travel to Covid-19 "hotspots" around the nation.

Tucson Mayor Regina Romero says Arizona coronavirus patients may have to be sent to other states for ICU care.

I fully expect Europe's numbers to increase

New modeling projects that the coronavirus death toll in the U.S. will exceed 200,000 by November, but more than 45,000 lives could be saved if the vast majority of people wore masks in public.

The U.S. will see roughly 78,000 more coronavirus deaths from now until Nov. 1, bringing the death toll to 208,000, according to projections based on a respected model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

New deaths would be reduced by nearly 60% and the overall death toll would be slashed to 163,000 if 95% of people wore masks while in public, the model projects. Mask use at that level would likely only occur through state or local mask mandates.

Germany expresses support for WHO as US declares plans to leave

From CNN’s Lauren Mascarenhas

A top diplomat from Germany expressed support for the World Health Organization Tuesday, calling for global solidarity as the US announced plans to withdraw from the organization.

“This virus doesn't stop at any borders. It doesn't stop at any sort of form of government. It doesn't care about ideologies,” Ricklef Beutin, Germany’s Deputy Chief of Mission, said at an Atlantic Council roundtable on Covid-19.

“We can only tackle it and overcome it together. This means solidarity between countries and solidarity, frankly, in our societies.”

Beutin added that Germany supports WHO.

“While criticism is welcome – It's not only allowed, it is welcome. It may be justified – we feel that it is not a good idea to hamper the organization, while in the full thrust and brunt of this pandemic,” Beutin said.

Coronavirus positivity rate jumps by more than 2% in Los Angeles

From CNN's Cheri Mossburg

The coronavirus positivity rate in Los Angeles has jumped more than 2% to 11.6%, according to the L.A. County Department of Public Health.

On Monday, the county reported the rate, which is a seven-day rolling average, as 9.5%. More than 1.2 million tests have been conducted in the county to date.

Los Angeles reported 4,015 confirmed cases, about 2,000 of which are attributed to three-day backlog from one lab. This brings the county’s total number of confirmed cases to at least 120,539.

Nearly 2,000 people are hospitalized in Los Angeles County, with 27% of those in intensive care units, according to a statement from the department.

More than 3,500 people have died from Covid-19 in the county, and about 93% of those have had underlying health conditions.

🤓 [bold] Brazil's President Tests Positive For The Corona !

[quote] The U.S. will see roughly 78,000 more coronavirus deaths from now until Nov. 1, bringing the death toll to 208,000, according to projections based on a respected model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

I don't trust any of these projections anymore. Back in March and April, the IHME was projecting a total of 60,000 deaths, and they predicted that cases would drop to near zero by July. Then they raised the number to about 70,000. Then they doubled it to 140,000. Now they've raised it to 208,000. In a few weeks, they'll undoubtedly raise the number again. They're just guessing, and their projections have proven worthless.

I suspect you're right r439.

But we have to celebrate small victories when we get them. Even when those small victories include more accurate statistics on how bad things really are.

Who am I kidding?

USA: 971 deaths today

The media keeps blaming the spikes on re-openings, parties, etc... Nobody seems to think it's because of the protests.

That's because George Soros paid all the protesters to lie about where they were exposed, r442. Then he paid them to go to red states and infect everyone. Hillary and Obama are trafficking children to for their plasma so they can cure all members of BLM and Antifa. Pizzagate! Benghazi! Emails! Lock Them Up!

The ‘Covid Cocktail’: Inside a Pa. nursing home that gave some veterans hydroxychloroquine even without covid-19 testing

. . .

But what worried some nurses most was what they called the “covid cocktail,” the widespread, off-label use of one of the antimalarial drugs touted by President Trump in March as a potentially game-changing treatment for covid-19.

. . .

“I am absolutely gobsmacked about the events that have occurred there,” said William C. Hunter, a Johns Hopkins-trained internist who served as the center’s medical director until he retired in December. “It was an untried cocktail. The risks and potential benefits were completely unknown — no real scientific studies were conducted.”

Hunter, who said he has been talking to staff at the home for weeks, called the treatment “reckless.”

. . .

Nurses who had spent years caring for veterans and their spouses at Southeastern said they raised concerns. Without covid-19 testing, they said, potentially virus-free patients in their 80s and 90s were at risk of being dosed with an unproven drug they didn’t need or, worse yet, could hurt them.

more at link

“Plus, it would be really nice to have pills that can be given early on to make people get better faster.”

Yes, it really fucking would. Hurry up!

Someone I follow on insta went to 2 or 3 protests in nyc weeks ago. She didn't get it. She wore a mask and face shield.

There were massive protests every day in NYC for weeks, starting on May 28. Almost everyone was wearing masks.

Six weeks after those protests began, the number of corona cases in NYC has not spiked and has remained flat.

It is not the protests. It's the parties.

R446: My friend and his partner went to large protests in Philly. They both tested negative last week. They wore masks.

R439, if you follow the projections' frameworks, data scientists are clear that cases are a moving target, based on factors that don't always unfold as expected. Factors like localities using case metrics to determine the pace of reopening. Assumptions like testing availability, and contract tracing. Assumptions like people wearing masks until their local curves are flattened. Assumptions like workplaces implementing science-based protections in high-contact environments, like meat processing plants.

Don't blame the scientists for shifting projections upward when politicians decide to ignore the measures that would keep the numbers lower.

I think had she not done GYPSY, she would have been the first Dolly.

If it was the protests, Minneapolis would be crawling with it.

In late June, Popular Science reported on a study that showed no spike due to the BLM protests.

The summers is magic! You have to imagine, imagine! Oh oh oh

It's not really appropriate to say that someone died of Corona when they had multiple co-mobidities and were at death's door anyway.

Stop the hysteria people.

In LA & SF Bay protests for sure have had something to do with the spike in cases. Not acknowledging this continues to politicize and create more of a public health issue.

The same way somehow k-12 school is safe to reopen! Bullshit. They want worker bee mum and dad back out at thr mines. If family gatherings, movie theaters, call centers and religious spaces high risk. Then why the f wouldn’t school be? Kids don’t transmit readily ?? Sure, Jan. In the beginning of all this it was kids are super spreaders. So many flip flops and lies. Biological warfare is happening

R454. Excess deaths. Have a nice day

Guardian (1 hour ago)-Doctors may be missing signs of serious and potentially fatal brain disorders triggered by coronavirus, as they emerge in mildly affected or recovering patients, UK scientists have warned. Neurologists are on Wednesday publishing details of more than 40 UK Covid-19 patients whose complications ranged from brain inflammation and delirium to nerve damage and stroke. In some cases, the neurological problem was the patient’s first and main symptom.

Are people using hand sanitizers that have methanol in it? It is toxic. It can cause neurological symptoms that can even mimic MS. Are there things going on concurrent with the virus that are not caused by the virus? Remember, correlation does not equate to cause and effect.

[quote]In LA & SF Bay protests for sure have had something to do with the spike in cases. Not acknowledging this continues to politicize and create more of a public health issue.

I don't think so. The protests took place in a lot of places that haven't seen a spike in cases. The correlation is between opening up too soon (or never closing down in the first place) and a spike in cases. Illinois, New York, Michigan, etc. have not had the spikes but they did have a ton of protests.

I agree, r459, the areas we are seeing spikes are the ones that opened early—Florida is a perfect example. And r454, please read up on this. The US is experiencing excess mortality in total—by a lot—since COVID “started” in March. We are way above where we’ve been in previous years during the same months.

Well that settles it, R446. If that 1 person didn't get, then no one did.

[quote]Neurologists are on Wednesday publishing details of more than 40 UK Covid-19 patients

One coronavirus patient, a 55-year-old woman with no history of psychiatric illness, began to behave oddly the day after she was discharged from hospital. She repeatedly put her coat on and took it off again and began to hallucinate, reporting that she saw monkeys and lions in her house. She was readmitted to hospital and gradually improved on antipsychotic medication.

Another woman, aged 47, was admitted to hospital with a headache and numbness in her right hand a week after a cough and fever came on. She later became drowsy and unresponsive and required an emergency operation to remove part of her skull to relieve pressure on her swollen brain.

One concern is that the virus could leave a minority of the population with subtle brain damage that only becomes apparent in years to come. This may have happened in the wake of the 1918 flu pandemic, when up to a million people appeared to develop brain disease.

R458 That report mentions a lot of people ingesting the hand sanitizer. If you're drinking hand sanitizer, corona is the least of your problems.

CNN’s Richard Quest had a “mild case” of CV weeks ago but he’s still dealing with aftereffects. He says he has recurrent episodes of fatigue and coughing, and what sound like neurological symptoms—he drops things, trips over furniture and other random objects and falls down a lot.

I read about neurological damage from Covid including brain inflammation, delirium and stroke and it scares me.

US sets single-day record for new coronavirus cases with over 60,000.

“There’s nothing to stop this train, there’s nothing to stop this steep acceleration in the number of cases,” said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine. “This is a public health crisis, this is a public health disaster.”

cuomo is giving a press conference. He looks so tanned!

⏳ CORONA TIME ~ JULY 8 ~ 12:00 NOON EST

🎮 VIDEO GAMES DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 12,026,425

DEATHS: 548,212

CRITICAL: 58,284

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 3,114,576

DEATHS: 134,141

CRITICAL: 15,380

📊 WORLDOMETER.COM

😷 NOT KIDDING - WEAR IT !

from what I'm reading, it's less likely to get infected outdoors and practicing social distancing - you're pretty much safe.

Andrew looks great with a tan

And we now now that droplets can linger in the air for longer than originally though.

Stay home!

Pence holding a briefing, thanking the public for their cooperation in keeping complete strangers safe during this crisis.

I guess Pence hasn't seen any recent pictures of the open bars and beaches.

Birks is using slides and a pile of papers that she's holding in her hand, as she throws useless "facts and figures" at us. It might be meaningful is WE could actually see the slides.

Mother Pence demanding the schools open! Why doesn't she spend a fun filled afternoon with FWOTUS and leave us alone.

The Coronavirus team is lying through their teeth right now. Pence says all is improving and hospital visits are leveling off. Pushing school school school. How bout getting testing testing testing available everywhere first. I’m so angry I muted the broadcast. Birx should be jailed, Azar is whining that they have done SO MUCH, why are people being so mean to them about their response. (Paraphrasing but that’s the gist)

We were just shy of 1K deaths yesterday..I wonder if this trend will continue?

If you compare the footage of BLM protests with those of the anti-shutdown protests, you'll see significantly more masks and social distancing. If you look at footage of people in bars, restaurants, beaches, and Trump rallies, there's just no comparison: a BLM protest is much safer. Also the BLM protesters tend to be younger, fitter, and not stoned out of their minds.

Do they want more people to die? I don't understand. why open schools? so the kids can go home and infect family members?

I understand when they push businesses to reopen for the economy...but why the fucking schools?

Also many people are having large family gatherings at home, parties indoors...we've all read the reports for example one person infects over 20 family members at birthday party etc...and they go on to infect others etc etc

Not enough "tests kits for everyone."

Hospitals filled to capacity.

PPE supplies running low or running out.

I thought we fixed this problem a few months ago when we corraled in the virus and obliterated it?

Is Don Jr. self quarantining by himself or is he shacked up at Mar A Lago with his infected whore?

r475, there's considerable evidence that both Donald Trump and his English cousin Boris Johnson are under the thumb of Vladimir Putin, and their chaotic, seemingly genocidal COVID strategies have been very similar. Just sayin.

Birks was contradicting many of Pence's so called facts. When she finished speaking, you could hear someone saying something to her. Next thing you know, she comes back to the podium to say that Pence is doing a "Good Job!"

What a posterior smoocher!

Pence: "We don't want the guidance (from the CDC) to be too tough."

Because God forbid we'd actually save some lives.

[quote] why open schools?

i would assume i'ts all about the $? students are consumers of many businesses.

Also, schools = daycare for many parents. It allows them to go to work without making other child care arrangements.

[quote]why open schools?

Either a) the Trump campaign has internal polling that shows it's a winning issue, or b) some of Trump's rich cronies have told him it has to be done, likely because it's key to getting their employees back to work. I'm inclined to go with the latter.

I have a relative with custody of her grandchild. She’s been able to work from home, but now that he’s kindergarten age she can’t take the time he needs for more learning the coming year. She’s been nearly in tears since the school district already announced no in school learning this Fall.

An increase in people dying at home suggests coronavirus deaths in Houston may be higher than reported.

An uptick in the number of people dying before they can even reach a hospital in Houston draws parallels to what happened in New York City in March and April, when there was a spike in the number of times firefighters responded to medical calls, only to discover that the person in need of help had already died. These increases also echo those reported during outbreaks in Detroit and Boston, when the number of people dying at home jumped as coronavirus cases surged.

While far more people died of COVID-19 in those cities than have died so far in Houston, researchers and paramedics say that the trend of sudden at-home deaths in Texas’ largest city is concerning because it shows that the virus's toll may be deeper than what appears in official death tallies and daily hospitalization reports.

Data from the Houston Fire Department shows a 45% jump since February in the number of cardiac arrest calls that ended with paramedics declaring people dead upon their arrival at the scene.

Spain's outbreaks present "a worrying situation," health minister says

From CNN's Laura Pérez Maestro

Spanish Health Minister, Salvador Illa, told a Catalan Radio on Wednesday, that the outbreaks in the country present "a worrying situation."

"We know there are outbreaks, all countries that have managed to control the pandemic have them, as it is the situation in Spain. We monitor them with concern and daily," he said.

Spain registered 257 new cases on Wednesday, over half of them linked to outbreaks in Catalonia, Aragon, Galicia and Andalusia.

The total number of cases in the country is at least 252,513. The government's data also shows that four people died from coronavirus in Spain in the last 24 hours, bringing the total number of coronavirus-related deaths to 28,396.

Why not R454?

When it happens, we correctly report that people die of cancer even though they also may have severe hypertension and/or COPD.

Why not R454?

When it happens, we correctly report that people die of cancer even though they also may have severe hypertension and/or COPD.

CNN:

▪︎ Within 99 days from the first reported case in the US, 1 million Americans became infected.

▪︎ It took just 43 days after that to reach 2 million cases.

▪︎ Now, 28 days later, the US has reached 3 million cases.

Even though I take the import of CNN’s report, in this case testing has increased dramatically over the past 171 days.

Hospitalizations (or deaths) would be a more accurate gauge

R490, it will be in a textbook someday to explain uncontrolled, exponential epidemiological growth rates.

I hope Trump dies painfully.

Trump will do whatever he thinks will get him reelected.

As Mary Trump’s Book makes clear, TRump is not very smart. But he grasps simple things.

His advisors have told him that every President who stood for reelection, in the year the economy went into the toilet, was voted out of office.

If one parent voluntarily stays home from work to watch after kids, in hopes that neither they nor the kids become sick, the economy will be less robust than it was last year.

TRump figures that if he can force schools to open, many parents will assume they are safe, re-enroll their children and go back to work.

As a result, without a vaccine, hundreds of thousands more people will die, but before they do, the economy may develop just enough of a boost to get him re-elected.

After that, he doesn’t care.

That will never happen R494

I agree, r495. I think it’s going to be a long, cold, winter.

All the religious nut jobs who have been screaming for homeschooling for years have had the laws changed so basically there is no such things as truancy any more. All the parents have to do is say I’m homeschooling Johnny at home.

That means most parents who have money and can afford to have a stay at home parent, will probably keep their kids at home, unless they’re nuts. Only poor parents have to put their kids back in the meat grinder.

The end result will be, methheads’ kids will be illiterate and years behind when this is over, and probably never catch up. Lazy parents may keep their kids at home but not teach them. There will be some supermoms whose kids may leap ahead.

When this is over, they should test all the kids to find out what grade level they’re at, and adjust them accordingly for at least a year.

I saw some “expert” this morning talking about how teachers “just couldn’t go to school without precautions being made, school will be totally different.”

In real life, a teacher on my Nextdoor is asking where she can buy N95 masks because the schools are not supplying any PPE at all. People had to tell her, there are none for you. Maybe if you were a nurse, you could get one a day handed out.

Where do they find these “experts”? Does he think you can just place an order for 100 N95s, and they’re just going to be sent to you? Where is that?

[quote]Maybe if you were a nurse, you could get one a day handed out.

What Narnia are you posting from? Those not working directly with COVID patients get one per week. The staff on the COVID floor gets one twice a week.

I’d like to know who Trump sold them to. We all know he sold them. Probably sent Ivanka with a empty suitcase to pick up the money.

Covid-19 hospitalizations in California are up 44%, governor says

From CNN's Cheri Mossburg

Coronavirus hospitalizations in California are up 44% over the past two weeks, Gov. Gavin Newsom said today in a news conference. That translates to about 6,100 patients.

The number of patients in intensive care has climbed by 34% in the past 14 days.

California has added 11,694 additional cases, but Newsom cautions that approximately 2,000 of those are from a backlog in Los Angeles County. This brings the total number of cases to nearly 290,000.

California’s seven-day positivity rate is about 8%, Newsom said, and the 14-day rate stands at 7.1%. The state is averaging more than 100,000 tests each day.

Covid-19 hospitalizations up 70% in Miami-Dade County

From CNN's Rosa Flores and Sara Weisfeldt

In the past 13 days, Florida's Miami-Dade County has seen a 70% increase in the number of Covid-19 patients being hospitalized.

The number of intensive care unit beds being used has risen to 84% and the use of ventilators is at 116%, according to the latest data released by Miami-Dade County government.

Something something increased testing.

Unfortunately, we have lost this war. The peak holiday season is fast approaching and many countries and citizens are still in denial despite what has already occurred. The virus will continue to spread out of control in the weeks and months to come. Not sure what the solution is but there is definitely no stopping it now short of a vaccine which even in the best circumstances would take many years to show any benefit. The world is fucked! Many millions will die!

CNN: For months, Israel appeared to be an international model of coronavirus success.

With early travel restrictions and sweeping closures, the country had largely contained the spread of Covid-19, recording a mortality rate that was far better than many countries in the Western world. As coronavirus tore across the United States and Europe, Israel was comfortably moving towards reopening.

Bt just weeks after reopening restaurants, malls and beaches, Israel is now seeing a 50-fold surge in new coronavirus cases. From approximately 20 new cases a day in mid-May to more than 1,000 new cases a day less than two months later, Israel is rushing to once again close venues it so recently rushed to open.

As Thomas Andrew's said: "The pumps will buy you time, but minutes only. From this moment, no matter what we do, Titanic will founder."

I predict that we will have over 100 threads before this is "over"

There is no future!!!

[quote] Japan’s theme parks have banned screaming on roller coasters because it spreads coronavirus. “Please scream inside your heart.”

That should be the theme for all of 2020. Scream inside your heart.

I have been screaming inside my heart for 3.5 years.

Because this graph of the contours of failure can never be posted enough.

In terms of masks: I work in health care (psychiatry) and have had to go in everyday since this started. We get one mask every 3-4 weeks and they stink after a week. Not sure how effective they even are. And patients come in and lie about having been exposed, until they are with the nurse and being triaged. Nightmare!

Well I never in all my life!

[quote]OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — President Donald Trump's campaign rally in Tulsa in late June that drew thousands of participants and large protests "likely contributed" to a dramatic surge in new coronavirus cases, Tulsa City-County Health Department Director Dr. Bruce Dart said Wednesday.

[quote]Tulsa County reported 261 confirmed new cases on Monday, a one-day record high, and another 206 cases on Tuesday. By comparison, during the week before the June 20 Trump rally, there were 76 cases on Monday and 96 on Tuesday.

[quote]Although the health department’s policy is to not publicly identify individual settings where people may have contracted the virus, Dart said those large gatherings “more than likely" contributed to the spike.

[quote]“In the past few days, we’ve seen almost 500 new cases, and we had several large events just over two weeks ago, so I guess we just connect the dots," Dart said.

R506 Please, 100 threads will only get us into Nov or Dec at this rate. On the other hand, once we're all dead or disabled, the threads will dry up pretty quickly.

USA +61,848 new cases today. At this rate, we will be at 100K+ daily by the end of July.

How much is BIG Pharma (+grifting Trumps/red govs) making off of sick people? There MUST be a $$$ angle to letting CV run rampant like this and to continue to encourage it. CV kills more black + latinas = less democrats. That was a clear + to the POS, but now he is enouraging killing his own base with abandon. That does not make any sense. Maybe, Trump/Desantis (and the stupid folks that follow them) are truly insane!

Florida Keys reports 11th case of mosquito borne dengue fever

Forget the coronavirus, say hello to dengue fever. An 11th case of the mosquito-borne illness has been confirmed in the Florida Keys, officials from the Florida Department of Health announced Tuesday.

All of the cases have been found in Key Largo, the northernmost key about 60 miles south of Miami, including eight cases that were found there during the last week of June, officials said.

The viral disease is contracted through the bite of a female Aedes aegypti mosquito, a species that’s considered invasive and also spreads illnesses like yellow fever, Zika and chikungunya.

Symptoms of dengue typically appear within two weeks of a bite and include fever, severe muscle aches and pains, and at times a rash, the health department said.

Health officials are in the process of “conducting epidemiological studies to determine the origin and extent of these infections” and believe all cases were acquired locally, according to Alison Kerr, a Florida Keys spokeswoman who spoke to the Miami Herald.

The most recent patient is receiving treatment and is expected to make a complete recovery, Kerr said.

Workers from the Florida Keys Mosquito Control District are targeting adult mosquitoes and larvae using helicopters and trucks, according to spokesperson Chad Huff.

That work includes door-to-door inspections of homes and businesses in the Key Largo area.

To help tamp down the spread, officials are asking locals to remove possible Aedes aegypti breeding grounds such as gutters, tarps, trash cans and pet bowls that contain standing water.

Jesus Christ. Bubonic Plague in Inner Mongolia, Dengue in Florida....Mother Nature is PISSED.

[quote]Jesus Christ. Bubonic Plague in Inner Mongolia, Dengue in Florida....Mother Nature is PISSED.

I told you I wasn’t playing.

It's time for leprosy to make a comeback. Where shall we open the first leper colony?

R463 it also discussed absorption through the skin as well as inhalation of fumes as routes of entry into the body. If you're rubbing methanol on your skin because it's in your hand sanitizer, over time there may be toxic effects which can include neurological issues.

I would think DL would be hysterical over this issue, but apparently I was wrong!

Regards, R458

I don't remember, didn't they say the hospital gets 13k per coronavirus patient from the fed govt? Or was that fake news?

This seems very relevant.

R519 Isn't Moloka‘i still available?

how Haole of you R523

[quote]On the other hand, once we're all dead or disabled, the threads will dry up pretty quickly.

Not everyone posting here is American.

🦗 The Locusts!

Don't forget the Plague of Locusts.

“We get one mask every 3-4 weeks and they stink after a week.”

Why would you go along with that? You are the problem.

It they told you to swallow a razor blade, what would you do then?

Looking forward to your response.

And West Nile virus in Texas, Illinois and Florida

Not everyone has the luxury to just quit their job over policies they don’t agree with, R527. In the hospital I work at the policy was about the same and your name and date was written down in a log whenever you needed a new mask.

Carry on, R525. Carry on.

🤔 No one is asking you to leave you job r529.

Go on eBay, for God's sake, and by some masks. They're not expensive.

Are you that stupid to put the same filthy mask on day after day?

Or are you just a cheapskate?

Wow, R527. Maybe you'll get your response when you turn up in the ER but the front line workers have all left because they aren't getting proper PPE.

The N95s on ebay are mostly counterfeit, R531. The legit masks are all going to health care facilities, but there aren't enough to meet need. There might have been if Trump had used the Defense Production Act to manufacture them, but he's been too busy sticking his fingers in his ears singing "la la la la I can't hear you"

🤣R527 Only if it's a single edge, Teflon coated blade with lubricant.

Buy some fucking bandanas at Walmart.

Almost all masks are made in China.

You're telling a doctor to buy a bandana at Walmart, R535? All that would do is get soggy and increase his chance of being infected.

R535 is why we can’t flatten the curve.

R519, how about Antonio Bay?

It's not my fault if a "real doctor" isn't smart enough to by a real mask.

I do, and I know I'm not making as much money as a real doctor.

But someday, I hope to play one on TV.

R460 We did not open early in LA or SF. Protests played a part in this. Fair enough. Gov Gavin Dipshit and his patchwork “localism” approach and bowing to pressure of business is also an issue. BuzzWords won’t save us Gavin! Shut our state down! We need a hard lockdown.

🙉 Nobody knows nothin 'bout The Corona.

R427, I recently got the MMR shot (at Sam’s Club). It was $86 with no insurance. I had to order it because they were out. I got it the next day.

I went to the doctor about a week later for an unrelated issue, and he decided he wanted to put me on Prednisone. I went to the pharmacy to get it filled. The pharmacist said I shouldn’t take the prednisone unless at least 2 weeks to ideally a month went by, because the prednisone would interact with the MMR and lower my immune system. She was extremely alarmed.

The next day I went to a different doctor and asked about it. He said that that effect is more if you are taking a much bigger dose than mine, for longer than me. I’m going to take it about two weeks at the smallest dose. But that pharmacist knew the dose I was taking and she was freaking out, so who knows.

If you’re thinking about taking the MMR and you have a pre-existing condition, maybe not. See if you can look up MMR interactions before you take it.

Stinkymask never said they were a doctor, just that they worked in health care. Maybe they are a clerk on the ward and that's why they don't get the good stuff. I agree that they should buy their own. I've seen pleated procedure masks being sold in all kinds of places now: Target, Ace Hardware, Sam's, Sally Beauty, Staples, etc. They usually run from around $25-35 for a box of 50 or $10-15 for a bag of 10. If you're too cheap to BYO, then at least try putting a fresh Kleenex or paper towel (preferably shop towel) liner between your mouth and mask each day to act as a stinkguard and add extra protection.

Some people are going to learn the hard way

Guardian-At least 26 legislators and 10 others who work at Mississippi’s Capitol have tested positive for the coronavirus, a public health official said Wednesday, as the governor implored residents to take precautions amid a rapid rise in confirmed cases statewide, AP reports. The 174-member Legislature ended its annual session 1 July, and many people in the Capitol did not wear masks or maintain distance between themselves and others during the last few weeks. Lieutenant-governor Delbert Hosemann and House Speaker Philip Gunn are among those who publicly acknowledge testing positive for Covid-19. They are now quarantined at home.

I can’t believe you doormat employees put up with such mistreatment and “cutbacks” while the admin makes millions at “non profits”. Even the for profit ones are treating employees like slaves.

Don’t make it so easy for them to treat patients and employees like crap. You are enabling them by WEARING THE SAME MASK FOR 4 WEEKS ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????

Why would you risk your health for a company that treats you like a slave? I’d rather eat out of a trash can and take my chances with a tent in the woods. Try and have a little self respect, would ya?

Forgive me, I assumed that you meant this was in America? Because if you’re wearing the same mask for a month at a hospital in Haiti then I understand.

Please god tell me you didn’t mean America?

I would have got on the hospital intercom and pulled a Norma Rae.

I have never taken even the slightest bit of shit from any employer or boss or any organization in my life. And it has worked out extremely well for me. I will work my ass off but NOT put up with the slightest abuse or mistreatment.

“I agree that they should buy their own. I've seen pleated procedure masks being sold in all kinds of places now”

Well of they are that easy to get, then tell your worthless admin team to take their greedy asses over to target and buy some for the employees.

They shouldn’t have to buy them themselves unless their are at a field hospital in Syria.

You only get what you fight for in this world.

R535. Bandanas are the worst choice to use as a mask according to scientific studies.

The totes that stores give away with their logo on it are made of non-woven polypropylene. It is the same fabric used for N95 masks.

Just wash one of those totes and cut it up to make filters that you put inside your 2-side cotton masks (or the ones that your hospital gives you). Wash the mask and filter swatch every night.

You probably already have some of these free totes at home. They look like the totes in the link below.

Tell my boss to cut that shit up, I don’t get paid for that. That’s their problem.

Am I supposed to start smelting my own stethoscope and weaving my scrubs from wild cotton too?

This is so pathetic.

Tell my boss to cut that shit up, I don’t get paid for that. That’s their problem.

Am I supposed to start smelting my own stethoscope and weaving my scrubs from wild cotton too?

This is so pathetic.

R554 Stop being an entitled baby. Do it or die. It's your choice.

R554 Stop complaining and buy handmade masks with filters and face shields on Etsy.com

Who the fuck is the "tell your job to go fuck themselves" troll? Bet it's a cubicle queen who's getting up extra early tomorrow to get his boss's extra special coffee and donut.

There were medical professionals reduced to fashioning isolation gowns out of trash bags in NYC because there wasn’t an adequate supply of PPE. I could have bitched and moaned till I was blue back in April but would that have made N95s magically start raining down from the sky? This was a total failure of the American healthcare system to be prepared for a major health crisis such as this and the same situation is going to happen again in TX, AZ, FL, etc. in the coming weeks.

By the way, I don’t know of a single nurse that got hazard pay through this whole mess. But thanks for the all the heart signs and thank yous...

The Trump administration had months now to ramp up production of masks and PPE. That we still don't have enough masks and PPE to protect our hospital staff is a total disgrace and total failure of the federal government.

Dump was just praising himself and his failed task force at his latest presser that they provided millions of masks and thousands of ventilators and the states now have all the necessary supplies and did not ask for any additional help from the federal government. And then you read that nurses only get ONE mask a week and some even have to wear them for more than a week. Every single word that is coming out of his mouth is a lie. Just resign already.

Jesusfuckinggoddamchrist, he's trying to kill as many democrats as possible. He is not telling PRIVATE schools they have to open.

I feel threatened by anyone NOT wearing a mask. We should be screaming in the faces of the maskless, "I feel threatened, before standing our ground and shooting them". THEY WANT US TO DIE.

Just FYI, R546, R547, R548, R549, R550, R551, R553 and R554 are all the same (idiotic) poster.

JGDMFC- The Republicans will not hold an election they will lose. EVERY SINGLE THING they are doing today, is to cause chaos, death, violence in November. By October millions will be dead, broke, hungry, tired, angry and violent. We need to act now. We should be gathering en mass in front of Republican Senators/Cabinet homes until they demand that he resign or 25th Amendment.

I would even support FULL pardons for ALL the fucking criminals, if he would just fucking GO.

BTW= Where the fuck are the grieving military families from the ONGOING murders for hire program? Where are the photos of the young men? Why are we not seeing their stories on GMA? Nope, no goddamn follow up at all from the media.

Confront and Stand your ground against the anti-mask wearers, they are the enemy.

Chris Hayes:

Every single problem we’re dealing with now stems from the fact that we never actually suppressed the virus and then put the infrastructure in place to keep it suppressed. It’s like we’re trying to figure out a way to live in a burning building. It doesn’t work.

Six months ago today, from Politico's Dan Diamond:

Stinkymask should buy some Altoids Curiously Strong Mints.

We should scream, "I FEEL THREATENED!" at flagrant abusers, then everyone should spray them in the face with lysol.

Also, heard on DL. Call them "Germspreaders". FUCK this "Please put on a mask" bullshit. We need to play offence . Fucking democrats always worried about feelings. Germspreaders need to be neutralized.

I keep telling you guys to go out and buy a package of cone shaped coffee filters for you masks.

Buy cotton masks with a filter pocket, and you can have a fresh mask with a clean filter every day. Just cut the filter to fit the mask, and, like me, you'll be fresh, healthy and stylish every day.

✌️ Peace Out, Loungers !

Unlike you Darfur Orphan, my face is not cone-shaped.

R568 ..... I guess you missed the part about cutting the filter to fit your mask pocket.

It's not really rocket science.

Maybe for you it is.

😷 Watch my YouTube video "Darfur O Explains It All."

I love love love the Darfur Orphan. Is he into the homo sex?

Miss Qui'Annah Mugambe has my full attention right now r570.

But I love chatting with my special friends at the Lounge !

If your company told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?

Record Spikes in Hong Kong, Tokyo Feed Fears of Asia Second Wave

The virus is flaring again in parts of Asia, with Hong Kong and Tokyo reporting record spikes in new infections just days after Melbourne locked down again, reflecting the challenge of containing the pathogen even in places that seemed beyond the worst of the pandemic.

The resurgences in the Asian hubs come after weeks of normalized activity as people returned to work and restaurants filled up again, raising the specter of a reversion to social distancing. Both cities marked single-day highs on Thursday: Tokyo detected 224 cases while Hong Kong found 34 local infections, taking its tally for the week to 65 after a three-month stretch of being mostly virus-free.

The flareups are sobering reminders that the pandemic is far from over. Without an effective and widely-distributed vaccine, cities are likely to continue in a state of limbo in which easing of social distancing will lead to a spike of infection. The virus’s ability to spread silently for weeks is still not fully understood by scientists, some of whom suspect that it can linger in the air for hours.

Florida's Thursday report

8,935 positive cases

18.39 percent test positive from 51,700 tests (All time high in Florida)

120 deaths (All time high in Florida)

*sigh*

Next thread...

Since the US went into lockdown, its death toll has grown 45-fold. You may think that toll is, while tragic, what a pandemic means—deaths multiply. But among all the world’s wealthy countries they have only multiplied like this in America.

In part, that is because, along with everything else the pandemic has highlighted about this country — its racial inequities, its yawning class divides, its toxic partisanship, its hobbled state capacity — is that it is maddeningly ineducable.

None of these new outbreaks, defining America’s summer experience of the disease, had really gotten going before New York, the worst-hit place in the country this spring, had gotten a handle on its terrible outbreak. [bold]And yet none of them managed to learn from New York’s example.[/bold]

Link for above:

I think everything they are making now is going into the federal stockpile...That was according to the report I saw on TV.

3M is making N95 masks, there is a plant in the south somewhere...

The Asian numbers pale in comparison to ours. It is almost laughable

Arizona leads nation with highest average of new cases per capita

From CNN's Amanda Watts

Arizona has led the nation with the highest seven-day average of new coronavirus cases per 100,000 people for more than a month, according to a CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University.

On June 7, Arizona overtook the top spot with a per capita rate of 13.84 per 100,000 people. Today, the state is averaging 48.10 per 100,000 people — that’s more than triple the rate from a month ago.

Florida has held onto the second spot every day since June 26, according to Johns Hopkins data. Their current rate is 43.08 per 100,000 people.

The United States currently has a seven-day average of new cases per 100,000 people of 16.00.

Florida reports 120 new coronavirus deaths, a single-day record for the state

From CNN's Melissa Alonso, Rosa Flores and Sara Weisfeldt

Florida health officials on Thursday reported 8,935 new Covid-19 cases, according to data posted on the Florida Department of Health website.

The state is also reporting at least 120 Covid-19-related deaths — a new single-day record for the state. The previous high was on April 28, when 83 new deaths were reported, according to CNN's tally.

This brings the current total cases to more than 232,000, according the health department. There are now more than 4,000 Covid-19-related deaths in Florida.

Despite the clickbait headline, there's some good information in here about the NIH's thinking on vaccine and treatment development.

R580, this is punishment for John McCain and for turning purple ( the state, not John McCain).

The only good democrat is a dead democrat. It's not a joke, he wants us dead.

***BURNED ON THE FOURTH OF JULY**

On a lighter, brighter note, a full size statue of Melania Trump was set on fire in her native Slovenian village.

***BURNED ON THE FOURTH OF JULY**

On a lighter, brighter note, a full size statue of Melania Trump was set on fire in her native Slovenian village.

Why such a difference between Arizona and New Mexico?

Republican areas are being smited.

Well, I figured, R587, but you'd think there'd be more crossover of the smiting with that shared border and similar population!

Dump really doesn't want to win doing that shit...his base is shrinking and he underperforms his approval rating consistently.

Did you guys know there's a comet visible at the moment?

[quote] “...stars with flames like hair. They are born suddenly, portending a change of royal power or plague or wars or winds or heat”.

-- The Venerable Bede, 'On the Nature of Things,' AD 703

Bye...

bye...

bye...

bye, there.

Them summer days

those

summer

days....

Hot fun in the summertime

Hot fun in the summertime

BYE

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner announced Wednesday the city has canceled the in-person Texas GOP state convention scheduled to be held at the city-owned George R. Brown Convention Center.

The official notification to the party came in the form of a letter from Houston First, which runs the convention center. The contract between the two parties included what is known as a force majeure clause that allows for cancelation due to an epidemic.

Houston First relied on a letter from Dr. David Persse, Houston’s health authority, in exercising the cancelation clause.

“I write to confirm that Houston is confronting an unparalleled and frightening escalation in the spread of the COVID-19 virus,” wrote Persse. “Our metropolitan area in general — and Houston in particular — are now among the national epicenters of current COVID-19 outbreaks.”

Texas GOP Party Chair James Dickey said the party is exploring its legal options.