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Do you believe in reincarnation? Have you ever had a NDE?

Do you think we reincarnate randomly or someone chooses the next life for you.

Recently I have been reading about NDE experiences. Can really your brain invent that kind of stories that are so similar all around the world and with different people just because of lack of oxygen?

I found this website, it has some interesenting experiencies, but other sounds like religious nuts.

With the whole Covid thing I have been thinking about death lately, is so sad to think that everything is over once you die.

Experiences, toughts?

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by Anonymousreply 119November 28, 2021 2:48 PM

I absolutely believe in reincarnation.

I don't necessarily prescribe to the Hindu/Buddhist theories i.e. your actions in this life determine whether you progress upwards in your next life (lives).

I'm sure we've all encountered people with whom we hit it off immediately. I always feel that these are souls you've known from a previous lifetime; therefore, the immediate bond. Conversely, we've all met people that just bring out the worst in us or we have great difficulty getting along with them; these are souls with whom we were in conflict.

I actually take great comfort in the belief of reincarnation.

by Anonymousreply 1June 11, 2020 2:48 PM

Back when Katie Couric had her talk show, she had episode that featured people who had "died," had afterlife experiences, but who then "came back to life."

While some of the stories the guests told were interesting, I rolled my eyes when they trotted out a 7-year old girl who had nearly drowned, but then was resuscitated. She came on with her parents who were - surprise - Christian fundamentalists who home schooled their kids.

Apparently, after the little girl "died," Jesus came and talked to her, and when she "came back to life," she suddenly had this new miraculous ability as an artist. They brought out paintings she had made of the Jesus that came and talked to her, and - surprise again - all the paintings were of a white guy with a beard, long hair, and a white robe. Ya know, the kinds of Jesus pictures you see in children's Bibles and on the walls in church.

Needless to say, I wasn't buying the little girl's tale. As far as the other guests, most of them seemed a bit "off" to start with, and while I have no doubt that they experienced something physiological when they "died," I still didn't find any compelling reason to believe they had gone into an afterlife.

by Anonymousreply 2June 11, 2020 2:50 PM

Do I have to live this shitty life AGAIN?

by Anonymousreply 3June 11, 2020 2:55 PM

Yes.

by Anonymousreply 4June 11, 2020 2:58 PM

Ok davida.

by Anonymousreply 5June 11, 2020 3:01 PM

No NDA but vivid memories of a few previous lives. Feels like it’s twenty years ago instead of decades or centuries ago. To me it is very real. I recognised people and places during this life that I’d never met or seen before. I’ve gotten used to it but won’t be defined by past experiences if you understand what I mean. To me it shows me things I can do differently in this life amongst other things. Fell for a love of my previous life and he was still an arrogant jerk, some things never change.

by Anonymousreply 6June 11, 2020 3:06 PM

*NDE autocorrect

by Anonymousreply 7June 11, 2020 3:07 PM

R6 Huh?

by Anonymousreply 8June 11, 2020 3:08 PM

Yes, I believe in reincarnation. Years ago I had vivid dreams in which I saw myself (but not as the person that I am now) in other time periods, in other lives, etc. I also saw myself as a female North American Indian who lived around the time that the settlers from overseas came to our land and it was very frightening to see their invasion and how they treated us.

by Anonymousreply 9June 11, 2020 3:09 PM

R8 you don’t believe you can consciously remember episodes of previous lives? Was I in any way not clear maybe, I am not a native speaker. So my apologies

by Anonymousreply 10June 11, 2020 3:11 PM

I don’t think it’s as cut and dried as we would think. I think Heaven has solved all the problems and quite honestly is probably a little boring. I also think our concepts of the other side can’t really begin to describe it.

I’d like to think that someone who overdosed or drank themselves to death gets up to the pearly gates and offered the chance to do everything over again.

by Anonymousreply 11June 11, 2020 3:11 PM

R9 Did you have these dreams after you watched "Dances with Wolves?"

by Anonymousreply 12June 11, 2020 3:13 PM

I have had a NDE. I believe I spoke to G-d. He didn't speak back but I felt a presence with me and need to speak my piece. I was in a white hospital room and a glaring light from above.

I do think that we are reincarnated but not from that experience. There is a time period that whenever I see a movie set then I'm in complete tears. It's not my culture either. So I think I had a previous life during that past time and feel so connected by anything I read about it.

by Anonymousreply 13June 11, 2020 3:16 PM

R13 Your piece speaks? Wow! That's more impressive than an NDE!

by Anonymousreply 14June 11, 2020 3:17 PM

r14, you know what I mean. That wasn't even funny.

It's bargaining time.

by Anonymousreply 15June 11, 2020 3:29 PM

Judging from just these few responses, it appears the subject hits a nerve with some people.

I find reincarnation a most practical idea; it certainly covers not only a concept of spiritual development, but also the vast numbers of entities having lived here.

As for specific gods governing the process, well, when I finally got sober over 34 years ago, I realized that, as an openly gay man, there isn’t a single religion on this planet that’s going to accept me as I am, but will always require me to change, according to their dogma.

So I have found a better way, one that works for me.

by Anonymousreply 16June 11, 2020 3:32 PM

R16 What's that better way that you found?

by Anonymousreply 17June 11, 2020 3:34 PM

Religion is a disease, there is no "being" in the sky looking down, it is an excuse just to control people. When people hear voices talking to them they put them in the hospital, except when "god" speaks to them. Religion is a mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 18June 11, 2020 3:39 PM

[quote] Experiences, toughts?

Guess who this is.

by Anonymousreply 19June 11, 2020 3:40 PM

I find it hard to believe because almost everyone who discusses a past life seems to have been a famous historical figure like Caesar or Cleopatra.

by Anonymousreply 20June 11, 2020 3:41 PM

Lol R19. Right? Gives her away every time.

by Anonymousreply 21June 11, 2020 3:42 PM

R20, exactly. NO one remembers being a slave or servant

by Anonymousreply 22June 11, 2020 3:44 PM

R19 R20 what?

by Anonymousreply 23June 11, 2020 3:51 PM

R21 *^

by Anonymousreply 24June 11, 2020 3:52 PM

Um no. I'm sort of a nihilist in that respect. In other words you die, that's it. I would of course like for reincarnation to bring me back as a well cared for cat in a house.

by Anonymousreply 25June 11, 2020 3:54 PM

R16 doesn’t everything touch a nerve nowadays?

by Anonymousreply 26June 11, 2020 4:01 PM

I have always been terrified of flying. When I had just turned 3 my father came home and announced he had tickets to go from our home in NYC to San Fransisco. For no reason whatsoever I became hysterical screaming I won't go on a plane. I was told I was so hysterical my parents called my pediatrician to come to our home. It had nothing to do with SF, it was getting on a plane I was carrying on about.

I'm now 67 and have never gotten on a plane. When I was 25 I had a partner who came from TX and wanted me to go there with him. His treat, first class seats. I couldn't do it. In those days you could go out right up to a plane and look at it. He took me to JFK just to go near a plane on the ground. As I started to head to the plane I had such a panic attack I had to sit on the ground. They wanted to call an ambulance thinking I was hurt or dying or something.

I never knew anyone who was in a plane crash or died or was even hurt from being on a plane or even had a bad experience. I have no idea why this fear, apparently from birth. My dad used to joke that in another life I had a bad scare with a plane. Who knows.

by Anonymousreply 27June 11, 2020 4:02 PM

R27 Many people have a fear of flying, even those who have never been on a plane. It's a fairly common phobia. I don't think it has anything to do with a past life.

by Anonymousreply 28June 11, 2020 4:05 PM

R20 R22 sorry to break your bubble but I remember being both men and women. I was raped, stabbed and thrown in a canal. I was poor farmer who didn’t, survive because of the crops one winter, I was a nurse when dozens died of somekind of contagious disease, I was a very poor soldier and died poor etc. There’s nothing glorious about it. It’s trauma and I’ve been trying to resolve it. Oh yes and I remember one life where I was a woman, aristocrat somewhere in the 15th century in Europe, guess what: I felt more lonely than ever. Dozens of people surrounding you daily but litterally no one to talk to the clothes preventing you from breathing literally and physically. Nothing nice.

by Anonymousreply 29June 11, 2020 4:05 PM

R28 no but it can be ancestral trauma. There is no reason to be afraid of flying when you have never been on a plane so the math. Same thing goes for stuff like lightning

by Anonymousreply 30June 11, 2020 4:07 PM

Yes. During my NDE my conciousness split in two. One part was trying to fight off the men trying to kill me. The other one was calm and lucid. "Three men are bashing your upper body. You are trying to run away. The grass is wet. Your feet keep slipping on the wet grass as you try to run. This doesn't look good."

I think, though, that this is more associated with trauma than NDE.

by Anonymousreply 31June 11, 2020 4:14 PM

R29 Were you gay when being a man in all of previous lifes you remember? I'm sure that if reincarnation is real, we are both males and females in different lifes, but I guess sexual preferences don't change, that would make a totally different person.

by Anonymousreply 32June 11, 2020 4:15 PM

R32 I have been gay in previous lives yes. Though I have been a woman too. I believe we all walk the path as both males and females. Some of us will only love males . As a soldier in a trench type of war before WW1, could have been the war between Holland and Spain(well feels like). Needed to be a man man if you understand what I mean, my love died. Yes my friend, a guy.

by Anonymousreply 33June 11, 2020 4:23 PM

R31 intense but is it still bothering you or did experiencing it again resolve something? It feels like colonial times. Asia.

by Anonymousreply 34June 11, 2020 4:31 PM

Y'all are just nervous neurotic nellies. Not one post so far of phenomena that could be interpreted as reincarnation.

by Anonymousreply 35June 11, 2020 6:30 PM

God, please don't make me straight in my next life!

by Anonymousreply 36June 11, 2020 6:35 PM

Just a correction--Buddhists believe in rebirth, not reincarnation. Reincarnation implies that there is a soul which isn't a thing in Buddhism.

by Anonymousreply 37June 11, 2020 6:41 PM

R36 or a woman?

by Anonymousreply 38June 11, 2020 6:54 PM

R35 so you want to know details?

by Anonymousreply 39June 11, 2020 6:55 PM

R39 Well, of course!

by Anonymousreply 40June 11, 2020 6:56 PM

I have had dreams of being killed that were incredibly vivid. One dream, I was in the back of a 50's era automobile and I was being attacked. I could remember the smell of the interior, there was a cigarette lit in the ashtray. It was raining and the windows were fogged up.

My attacker grabbed, threw me out of the car and into the rain. He stabbed my breast, I recalled the sound of it, felt my skin and muscle punctured by the knife. I tried to crawl away, he slipped in the mud and as I tried to get away, he sliced at my legs. He got his footing as I did, he grabbed the back of my dress, pulled me back down. He kept stabbing my buttocks and I some point, I stopped feeling it. He stabbed me in the face and I felt the blade go into my cheek and nick my tongue. He pulled the blade out and I could taste the blood. He tossed me in a ditch and began kicking mud into my face and I felt the earth sting the wounds. It was absolutely horrific.

I have no idea where this could have cropped up from my mind. I fell asleep with a cooking show on.Was it a past life experience? No idea. Hope not. I really hope it was just something in my imagination.

by Anonymousreply 41June 11, 2020 7:00 PM

Hindus believe in reincarnation (and, I believe, first came up with the term). They believe that your deeds in this life will define what your next life will be,

With enough good work, you will reach Moksha (In Buddhism, it's Nirvana) or oneness with the universal energy.

Ironically, Hindus also say you don't remember anything of past lives,

by Anonymousreply 42June 11, 2020 7:00 PM

R42 Well, that's convenient, isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 43June 11, 2020 7:11 PM

R39 I remember marrying an older airforce officer in Scotland, he had a daughter from a previous marriage. The girl and I couldn’t get along. I had 3 elder brothers and one younger sister who died of a typhoid like condition. My eldest brother never liked my husband, when I was pregnant with twins my husband did something to the car and I had a fatal accident. Can still feel the right side of my face when I think of this....feels completely numb. It was a very oldfashioned car and a driver was driving it so I suppose it’s early 20th century but not sure.

by Anonymousreply 44June 11, 2020 7:16 PM

R42 our DNA remembers and we also have spiritual ancestors that are our previous lives or feel like that. We are our ancestors. all just a matter bof definition imo

by Anonymousreply 45June 11, 2020 7:19 PM

*of

by Anonymousreply 46June 11, 2020 7:21 PM

R44 How do you remember this? Did you go through regression therapy, is this in your dreams, or does it come to you randomly? And are you man or woman?

by Anonymousreply 47June 11, 2020 7:22 PM

R20 I have a brother and sister cats and their names are Caesar and Cleopatra. In so far as I know they are not the reincarnation of their famous namesakes. But it's always a hoot to tell people that I have Caesar and Cleopatra walking around my house ( and they will end up much safer than their namesakes!).

by Anonymousreply 48June 12, 2020 3:06 AM

I was shown in vivid dreams that I was always a female in all of my past lives. Then for some reason I decided to switch and be a male in this current lifetime. Because of an overload of feminine traits from past lives I am gay in this lifetime, and attracted to other males. I was 'told' that it wasn't a punishment, that I was okay, and that there was nothing wrong with me.

by Anonymousreply 49June 12, 2020 3:41 AM

R49 of course there is nothing wrong with you, there’s plenty wrong with today’s society and people judging everyone and everything though. male or female we all have both male and female energy. Maybe it’s a chance for you to develop your male energy more in this life(physically the right half of your body). Profound dream!

by Anonymousreply 50June 12, 2020 4:12 AM

R2 sometimes dreams seem real but they are not. Same with alien abduction stories.

by Anonymousreply 51June 12, 2020 4:14 AM

R47 Let me start by saying I grew up as an atheist. I was fine with it too. In my early thirties I got injured and because of the severe pain I got all kinds of painkillers, one of them was Tramadol(could have a different name in the US, it’s a type of morphine). I started feeling weird. I got visions, dreams, images in my mind, started “knowing” things etc. I thought it was the medication so I decided I rather wanted to be in pain than experience the stuff I was going through. When I was 3 weeks off the meds nothing had changed. The following months I saw my doctor and a psychologist but according to them nothing was wrong with me. I eventually found an energy healer and that was a huge step to take for me as an atheist I felt I had run out of options and didn’t understand what was happening to me. I was very sceptic. The first time he healed me he told me I had some past life traumas and that I had to let those emotions out. I cried a lot and I even told him I didn’t believe in past lives. Believe it or not after the healing the pain wasn’t gone but it wasn’t nearly as bad as it had been. After the healing I started to dream more, have more visions etc. I panicked and called the healer again(what have you done to me?!), he said I was awakening and that it was nothing to fear. This was 4 years ago and he has helped me make sense of many of the spiritual or energetic stuff I’ve been experiencing. I have been going to teachings from a real shaman who lives an hours drive away and it has helped me to not get flooded by all the spiritual experiences. It’s been a process to accept and embrace it all. Still not there because I suppose one could say I am closeted when it comes to this stuff. My father wouldn’t understand and I am afraid my old friends wouldn’t either but I can’t deny it anymore so I hope to find the courage to tell them this year. I feel I have to and I don’t want to remain a coward. So info comes to me in dreams, visions, images in my mind, automatic writing, shamanic journeying and sometimes it is also simply “knowing” things. I’ve learned a lot from the shaman and I am grateful. The past life I described is just one of the lives I remember. In this life I am a woman. But most often I was a man as far as I remember anyway.

by Anonymousreply 52June 12, 2020 4:40 AM

Haven't experienced any of this personally, but have an interesting story to tell on the subject. An acquaintance of mine, who is into all kinds of alternative therapies, told me she was going to a session led by a " hypnotist" who guided people into past-life regressions. A few weeks later she told me of the experience.

She and about 20 other people in the room were seated in chairs in a large circle while slowly the hypnotist led them through a kind of guided meditation for about 45 minutes. My acqaintance said that besides the voice of the guide, she occasionally she would hear a gasp, sigh, or someone softly crying. Finally, after the session was over, the hypnotist invited anyone who cared to, to share their personal stories. ( My friend was bummed, because she was one of few that had no results). But anyway, this is when all hell broke loose. Although the meditation had in NO WAY been focused on anything violent or scary ( my friend described it as a typical relaxation type of meditation), several people " remembered" they had been murdered. One woman vividly recalled being some type of peasant being chased in the woods by an unknown predator. Her attacker chased her until she was finally beaten to death by her attacker with a large stone. By the end of her recounting, she was in such hysterics someone had to volunteer to take her home. The next tale of homicide was even more alarming- a man in the group insisted that he had been killed in an intricate plot by several people- and who should be one of the people involved in the plot, but the very same woman he was married to in the present day! He remembered everything about the incident as if it happened yesterday and he was so furious he was going home immediately to confront the poor woman who was his spouse, and he wasn't quite sure he could continue staying married to her! My friend said it basically went on and on- one really heart-wrenching story after another with many participants left feeling shaken and traumatized. The only people who didn't have either a negative or null experience she said, was an older married couple in their 80's who had been coming to these sessions for a while since they found out in an earlier one that they actually HAD BEEN married in a previous life. My acquaintance when relating all this stuff to me, didn't bat an eyelash, and in complete seriousness, said she was considering going back again to see if she had different results, and asked of I'd like to come along with her. AS IF! God knows I've f* cked up enough things in THIS lifetime- on the off chance that hypnosis shit would work on me, I don't need to know what kind of crap befell me in the last lifetime! How the f*ck do these * Hypnotist* snake- oil's men get away with this shit??!

(Oh yeah- and my friend said that the Hypnotist admitted to being a retired cop on his Second Career!)

by Anonymousreply 53June 12, 2020 7:13 AM

no NDEs.

I've had two 'apparitions' of past lives though, i wasn't murdered in any of them. I was an old double-amputee Japanese guy. maimed in the Second Sino-Japanese war, expiring in the mid 1960s from an upper respiratory infection, gasping and wheezing my last moments on a floor mat while my daughter peeled potatoes in the kitchen. I remember the orange-print curtains, and the late afternoon sun rays cracking through the blinds.

Another was in the last half of the 1800s, I was a pregnant teen in a home for unwed mothers-to-be in a newish North American town -- the sidewalks were slats of wood. Everyone, wearing dark, large cloaks that wouldn't show their 'state' so much went out to Sunday church service while i stayed in the home. i was halfway up a staircase when I fell backward and blacked out.

by Anonymousreply 54June 12, 2020 8:16 AM

Five years after my father died my nephew was born. At the age of 3 he developed an insatiable interest in his late grandfather's life and things and would sit in his study, which remained largely as it was, looking at my father's books, whilst wearing his reading glasses. This behavior went on for perhaps 2 years. One day his sister came into the room where he was and he immediately said "shut that door, there's a draught on my back", a line my father often used. There is no way he was told that, and the use of it given his behavior made me curious.

Months later he asked if he could look inside my father's wardrobe-I said ok , took him up to the bedroom, and he asked me to show him the clothes. Suddenly he said, somewhat wistfully "that was my favorite tie/shoes/trousers" thing again which he could not have known about. He then exclaimed "what's that?" pointing to the bottom of the wardrobe.Out of my eye line in the corner was my a travel bag in which my father kept his medicine and pajamas for his frequent hospital trips. The kid asked to see what was in it. It has been placed there after Dad died and was untouched. We looked at various things in it, then came across the medicine whereupon the kid said "Ah! I remember now. I was so sick and I had to take these tablets," picking up a blister pack of anti-nausea medication". That floored me. No way could he have understood the import of various medications.

Not long after this, the preoccupation with his grandfather stopped.

by Anonymousreply 55June 12, 2020 9:42 AM

R55 There are lot of stories like yours. It appears like somehow we are more likely to reincarnate in relatives than non-related babies. That’s awful in my case, I have a strong dislike for my family.

R51 some people seems to be connected trough different lifetimes, I would love to meet new souls. Imagine meeting the same people all over and over, if that’s the case reincarnation doesn’t sound very appealing to me. There are some people in my life that I wish I’d never meet. My parents for example.

by Anonymousreply 56June 12, 2020 10:19 AM

I have a close friend who has psychic abilities he claims we're close because we were friends in a previous life.

by Anonymousreply 57June 12, 2020 10:39 AM

Yes to reincarnation, but not in the way people normally conceive it. I think that there is in everyone a spark of the infinite (or the 'divine') that continues after death. Call it energy or spirit. I believe it is reabsorbed into the infinite and issues forth again, though I doubt that personal identity survives. I believe that death is nothing to fear, that it is, as Blake said, like passing from one room into another. I believe in karma, but I think we experience karma here and now, in this life.

by Anonymousreply 58June 12, 2020 10:47 AM

I've had instances of déjà vu. Back in '95, I visited my grandma in Dunedin, FL and on the way from the airport and at her apartment, I saw things that looked so familiar. That was my first time being there.

NDE related. Sometime in the late '90s, I had overdosed and wound up in the ICU. It was the hottest day of the year so far and my temp was dropping so badly that I apparently was shaking so badly that I had, I think, 5 blankets on me and still couldn't get warm. Before I got up to the floor I had gone to sleep. I heard people telling me how I fucked everything up yet the only person in my room was my mom. When I was "asleep", I remember getting up out of my bed, walking past the nurse's station and toward the door to leave. Next thing I know, I feel someone squeezing my leg to wake me up and I wake up and my doctor is standing there and I'm still in the bed with both rails up, hooked up to every IV, heart monitor, etc. Maybe it was the drugs doing their tricks or maybe something else. Too hard to tell.

by Anonymousreply 59June 12, 2020 12:19 PM

[quote] I realized that, as an openly gay man, there isn’t a single religion on this planet that’s going to accept me as I am, but will always require me to change, according to their dogma.

Paganry, Heathenry, Wicca....

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by Anonymousreply 60June 12, 2020 12:25 PM

Deja vu is all chemical.

The seeing god during NDE- same. This has been duplicated using both chemicals and a "god helmet". Those wearing the "god helmet", to this day insist that it was all real. Again, chemical.

The experiences of kids saying this and that...anecdotal or encouraged by parent.

by Anonymousreply 61June 12, 2020 1:16 PM

R53 I don't understand how someone can do regression like that. First of all a big group is not a good idea and second of all when people "remember"trauma you shouldn't just send them home but offer a chance to heal the trauma. There's a reason why people remember a specific lifetime, it's an opportunity to heal things.

by Anonymousreply 62June 12, 2020 1:35 PM

What is a "god helmet," R61?

by Anonymousreply 63June 12, 2020 1:36 PM

An apparatus created to learn about neurological experiences. asked Dr. Persinger how many people had seen God using the Koren Helmet, and this is what he said in reply:

"The problem is producing an environment in which people will report what they experience without anticipating ridicule on the one hand and not encouraging this type of report (demand characteristics) on the other.

Thus far, about 20 or so people have reported feeling the presence of Christ or even seeing him in the chamber (The acoustic chamber where the experimental sessions took place). Most of these people used Christ and God interchangeably. Most of these individuals were older (30 years or more) and religious (Roman Catholic). One male, age about 35 years old (alleged atheist but early childhood RC (Roman Catholic) training), saw a clear apparition (shoulders and head) of Christ staring him in the face. He was quite "shaken" by the experience. I did not complete a follow-up re: his change in behavior. Of course these are all reports. What we did find with one world-class psychic who experiences Christ as a component of his abilities was we could experimentally increase or decrease his numbers of his reported experiences by applying the LTP pattern (derived from the hippocampus) over the right hemisphere (without his awareness).

The field on-response delay was about 10 to 20 sec. The optimal pattern, at least for this person, looked very right hippocampal. By far most presences are attributed to dead relatives, the Great Forces, a spirit, or something equivalent.

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by Anonymousreply 64June 12, 2020 1:52 PM

Has the Poo Shoes Accuser Troll arrived yet?

by Anonymousreply 65June 12, 2020 1:54 PM

r53 one of the reasons why we Don't remember when we come back.

when you hear a child respond to certain things that they would have no way of knowing such as in r55 post it isn't parents encouraging their kids. It is usually because the parents allow their children to speak without telling them they are wrong. I have witnessed a 2 year old know things they couldn't possibly know. The majority of kids that remember things from past lives usually forget all about them at the age of 7-8, but not all.

by Anonymousreply 66June 12, 2020 2:13 PM

I loosely believe in reincarnation. It does seem to me some people are just more experienced at life from an early age and handle things more wisely, a wisdom not derived from their current life experience or upbringing just innate. While others are clearly newbies on this earth and muddling through everything for the first time.

by Anonymousreply 67June 12, 2020 2:36 PM

For all you know, your experience RIGHT now is being told from your deathbed.

Ya just don't know.

by Anonymousreply 68June 12, 2020 3:32 PM

Don’t you basically have to believe in magic in order to believe in reincarnation?

by Anonymousreply 69June 12, 2020 3:37 PM

R69 or you can feel/believe that everything is energy

by Anonymousreply 70June 12, 2020 3:40 PM

R65, several people have identified her. There is no such thing as one accuser.

by Anonymousreply 71June 12, 2020 3:52 PM

R70- everything IS energy. But, that does not mean we come back. What it means is, that energy that we had goes elsewhere. So, basically- the heat that we had is now returned to nature, transformed where needed.

by Anonymousreply 72June 12, 2020 4:01 PM

Ok- now for the BIG QUESTION. What happens to total Sh-thead turds like Trump, B. Barr, Cheney, etc. Do we believe they come back as a cockroach only to be squashed painfully under somebody's heel, or are they just annhilated for all eternity as "punishment" for their transgressions?

by Anonymousreply 73June 13, 2020 2:41 AM

A lot of DLers seem to be alcoholics and on many prescription drugs, so I’m not surprised that you have crazy ass dreams.

by Anonymousreply 74June 13, 2020 3:01 AM

R73 somewhere upthread someone mentioned that we all are a spark of the divine. So when you die the soul returns to the big ocean of all souls. Returns to unity. Drops from the ocean reincarnate again but it’s not one on one if you understand what I mean. Imagine being a raindrop falling into the sea. You can’t distinguish between the drops anymore. No soul will ever be trump again, not like exactly the same soul anyway, only partly.(unlucky soul). That’s why it feels like a previous life. It’s partly you. To me that is real anyway. Sorry maybe others are better at explaining this.... My personal believe is we incarnate to learn.

by Anonymousreply 75June 13, 2020 10:27 AM

R73 somewhere upthread someone mentioned that we all are a spark of the divine. So when you die the soul returns to the big ocean of all souls. Returns to unity. Drops from the ocean reincarnate again but it’s not one on one if you understand what I mean. Imagine being a raindrop falling into the sea. You can’t distinguish between the drops anymore. No soul will ever be trump again, not like exactly the same soul anyway, only partly.(unlucky soul). That’s why it feels like a previous life. It’s partly you. To me that is real anyway. Sorry maybe others are better at explaining this.... My personal believe is we incarnate to learn.

by Anonymousreply 76June 13, 2020 10:27 AM

I definitely believe in reincarnation. I have since I was a small child and have no idea why. It makes sense when you view us as energy and our bodies as a vehicle. Great thread and thanks for a break from the chaos of our current world. Puts things in perspective if subconsciously I know that I’ve been through a lot of this before in various manifestations. Ultimately it seems that life is about unconditional love of self and other beings in all forms and pain and trauma are our tools for the growth to attain this.

by Anonymousreply 77June 13, 2020 11:16 AM

Great post R77

by Anonymousreply 78June 13, 2020 11:27 AM

I've written this before on DL, so here it comes again -

When I knew that it was time for my 10.5 year old female Boxer to "cross the bridge," I started training her to walk into the light by turning out all the lights in the house at night, placing a lit flash light between the cushions on the couch, and walking her from across the room and right up to the light telling her "go to the light" during the process. I did this on several nights, repeatedly each time. Of course, she died a short while later. During her lifetime, she killed just once - a mouse in the house, and she'd broken it's back. Just a few months after her death, I noticed one night while watching television in my second floor bedroom the tiniest little face peaking out from behind the TV stand just staring at me. It was a mouse, and that's all it did is peak from behind that TV stand. I put a conventional trap down next to the TV stand, and it wouldn't go near it. I tried cheese, peanut butter, and something else. That mouse made it's appearance in the exact same spot each night for about five more nights - just staring at me. And then I never saw it again. Not long after, I'd gotten my new puppy - a boxer Male.

He didn't live long - 7.5 years, dying of CHF. He was already well into treatment by the time he caused the death of a cat, and he only had a few months more to live. I was putting him on his chain at the back porch when he broke free from my grasp after spotting a cat on the cat walk along the rear of my home. He chased the cat around the front of the house and into the street right into the path of an oncoming car - still remember that it was a Chevy Malibu. Cat was run over and died on the spot. My dog's health deteriorates so completely that I have to have him put down. Fast forward about three months later, and I've gotten a new puppy again - another Boxer male. All of the sudden, this kitten shows up on my front porch and it stays for days - just hanging out for about an entire week. It wasn't a small kitten - it had good size to it, but you could tell that it still had some good growing to do. Right away, I noticed that this kitten had a small dime sized white patch on it's neck in the exact same spot my recently deceased dog had the same dime sized white patch. It hangs out for the next week until I don't see it again. I had done the same training procedure with this dog as I did with the one before it - the flash light between couch cushions. The Vet assistant joined me in telling him "go to the light, Bing" as the Vet readied the injection.

I will do the same for my current male Boxer, Jackpot, who is 10.5 at this writing and nearing the end. The interesting thing is that years after the fact with my first two, I stumbled upon some online material which insisted that walking into the light at the moment of physical death was the essential spiritual act for all things, and it was precisely walking into the light which caused all living things to reincarnate. Makes for interesting reading if you're interested. Probably do a search for "the light and reincarnation."

by Anonymousreply 79June 13, 2020 11:42 AM

Oh yes, before this life I was a mosquito, didn't live long, then I came back as a cockroach but I got stepped on and finally as crab lice, total orgy, time of my life until the evil comb appeared.

by Anonymousreply 80June 13, 2020 11:54 AM

The problem is that the issue gets muddled up thanks to the ones who try to validate their current existence by insisting they've been someone important in the past.

To be brutally honest I don't think worrying about past lives or the afterlife are really important. However, the past can be used to appreciate the present more, as in: "Look how much you / me / they / we accomplished so far!" and can make us look more hopeful and exited towards the future. Can that really be accomplished when you supposedly were some big shot in the past and now you see yourself as a nobody? Just gives people another excuse to get, or stay, depressed.

by Anonymousreply 81June 13, 2020 12:17 PM

Yeah, there must be thousands of woman who think they were once Cleopatra in a past life. How come no one clams to have been Jack the Ripper? or Hitler? or Nixon?

by Anonymousreply 82June 13, 2020 12:46 PM

R81 and R82 No one on this thread has claimed to remember a past life as someone “important” as far as I have read.

by Anonymousreply 83June 13, 2020 2:11 PM

Remember where you were in 1800? That is where you will be after you die.

by Anonymousreply 84June 15, 2020 3:44 PM

The fear of flying thing gets me. I've been up in everything from a single engine Cesna to a Boeing 777 and AirBus A320. Love flying. Maybe it;s because I understand aircraft these days are HIGHLY automated. They can take off, cruise and land by themselves. The only reason we still have a flight captain and pilot is in case the system goes wrong.

by Anonymousreply 85July 1, 2020 8:05 AM

[quote]No one on this thread has claimed to remember a past life as someone “important” as far as I have read.

This thread? My comment was about people in general who believe in reincarnation. Many, many, many think at one point they were someone famous. Oh and as to sound humble they will tell you they were once someone very poor too. Cleopatra syndrome.

by Anonymousreply 86July 2, 2020 5:06 AM

Reincarnation is really a narcissistic idea. "Im so important that when I die I will come back as someone else or was already here" Cant be possible at all that in the bigger picture of things you were born, you lived you died the universe moved on. Just like that fly you swatted, cockroach you squashed, termites you poisoned or chicken you ate.

That concept throws narcissists into a tizzy that maybe, just maybe they don't really matter to anyone but themselves and will eventually be forgotten. Oh no, that cant be true for them.

by Anonymousreply 87July 2, 2020 5:12 AM

R86 megalomania, the belief of those people in reincarnation is just an outing of their self importance.

by Anonymousreply 88July 2, 2020 10:38 AM

No. Only people who believe in it are the ones that want it to be true. Same as with those that believe in God etc. They interpret every random thing as some kind of a sign that assures them they are right. As for seeing things for previous lives...well human mind is a miraculous thing. It can do wonders. Would I like to be some kind of an afterlife? Absolutely. I would also like to have a million dollars on my bank account. But wanting something to be true won't make it so

by Anonymousreply 89July 2, 2020 11:01 AM

My brother died suddenly of epilepsy at 24. The night after he died, I slept in my childhood bedroom at my parents house. My mom had removed the bed and replaced with a couch that folded into a futon, so I was sleeping on the futon on the floor. At around 3 a.m., the time at which he had died the night before, a decorative bird cage, which had been firmly planted on one of the shelves since I was a kid, fell off the shelf and woke me up by hitting me on the head. I woke up and felt a strong presence in the room. The next day, I replaced the birdcage and we tried to get it to fall off the shelf again--jumping up and down/knocking into the wall, etc., and it didn't budge.

The next morning at around 3 a.m., the alarm clock in my parents' bedroom went off. It had never been programmed for that time. My mom woke and felt the strong presence sensation.

The next morning at around 3 a.m., my older brother's watch alarm went off, again not programmed to do so.

We were all certain that it was my younger brother giving us a sign. It was weirdly comforting. Like he was telling us he was OK wherever he was.

I was working as a journalist at the time. I had never given much thought to death or NDE (I was in my 20s), but now I became interested. So I did a few stories on people who had NDEs. None of them were lunatics. All regular, reasonable people. What amazed me was the consistency of both their experience and the peace they found in the experience. All said they were no longer afraid to die and were much happier/fulfilled in life as a result. Like they had been told the big secret to happiness.

I'm not particularly religious or spiritual. But I do think it's arrogant for humans to insist there is nothing beyond what we can see/touch/explain. Lately, I've been reading about studies by physicists into multi-universes, which jibe a bit with NDEs.

I'm not counting on something amazing waiting for me at the end of my life. But I also believe that our energy goes somewhere after death.

by Anonymousreply 90July 2, 2020 11:26 AM

I’ve blabbered about this in other threads and so I will limit my commentary about this here, but in short yes. However, I don’t believe we live this life, die and then get recycled into a new life that we start, live through, and recycle. That model is dependent on linear time, and I now think that linear time is only way by which our processors organize our lives into stories.

In short, I had an experience with ayahuasca that sent me to many different ‘elsewheres,’ and I thought I had lost this life. I came back to it. The following description isn’t exactly literal but it’s the best way I can describe what happened: I was “out there,” far away from this life. I came back to it by falling back into it. As I fell back to the position I am in now, I had the sensation of crashing through events of my life, past and future. If you can imagine a lifetime written out like an encyclopedia set, stacked high, and all the pages are thin glass sheets, it was something like that. I fell through them, they shattered along the way, and I saw these refractory glimpses of different vignettes of life. Except that as with happens with ayahuasca, I didn’t only see them but I was there and then for a time in every instance.

The whole thing felt more real than this reality, which is something I felt during every breakthrough ayahuasca experience. Anyway, this one left me with a feeling that life really is like a book. It is written. It exists “from beginning to end.” The pages of it, so to speak, the events of it, all exist intermixed in a sea or a sky of all events. Our minds organize these events into a beginning, middle and end because it gives life moments of meaning and it organizes the chaos. But like a book, it’s all always written. So we move from page to page, but we remember what we have read and sometimes we flash back to those moments. Some of us have skipped ahead in various ways to future scenes (which exist now as much as now does and as much as the past does), and we have memories of having read those scenes, and the explanation that we give those viewings is that they are premonitions.

This relates to reincarnation because I believe that while we only have the capacity to be aware of progressing through one life in a linear way, we are doing this simultaneously in countless different stories that all coexist simultaneously. It’s not live, die, live, die. It’s more like changing the channel at any given time, understanding that “time” is like the binding of a book: the stories exist whether bound or unbound, but we can only make sense of them if the pages are in order.

Just because you are presently reading one novel, and you read it to the end and move onto a novel, that does not mean that the first novel now ceases to exist. You’ll retain a vague memory of it, and it remains in existence even as you’re experiencing one or more different stories now.

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by Anonymousreply 91July 2, 2020 11:29 AM

R90 Very interesting. I had a similar experience when my mother died. She was living in a retirement community, and my siblings and I were with her in her home when she passed away after being ill. Minutes after she died, there was a knock on her door. I answered, and it was someone from the front desk of the retirement community who said they had received an emergency alarm from my mother's apartment.

Each apartment had an alarm button in the bathroom that residents could push if they had an emergency. Well, at the time my mother died, we had all been by her bedside. No one had been in that bathroom for hours.

I almost felt like my mom, who in life was very diligent and responsible, felt like she needed to let the people at the front desk know that she had passed away. You know, just taking care of details before she went on to the next plane of existence.

Now, as far as the NDE thing, when I was 16, I was pushed into a swimming pool. I wasn't a strong swimmer, and I started to panic. After a few seconds, when I thought I was going to die, I remember a sense of calm came over me and I could feel myself letting go. Then I bobbed up to the surface. As soon as I was out of the water, the adrenaline started flowing again and I was shaking and my heart was racing. But for those few seconds, I felt a strong sense of peace.

I'm not saying I believe that I was going to "heaven" or that a higher power was pulling me in. I'm more inclined to think that when we're in near death situations, something physiological happens that calms our bodies - something that attempts to counter the trauma of life coming to an end. Maybe that's why so many people report the same type of feeling when they have an NDE.

Still not sure I believe in reincarnation. It would be fun to think I could come back as someone else, but I think it's more wishful thinking on the part of people who don't like to accept that we're on this earth for only a short time.

by Anonymousreply 92July 2, 2020 11:47 AM

R91 I believe you nailed it, this life doesn’t feel real. It doesn’t to me anyway. The Aboriginals don’t call it the dreamtime for nothing. What we perceive as matter is only a level of consciousness. When you “journey” to the level of totality there’s only unity, everything, no individuality.

by Anonymousreply 93July 2, 2020 12:30 PM

R93 Yeah, although it’s paradoxical.

Breakthrough psychedelic experiences *and* documented mystical religious experiences of the divine share a common trait of “ego dissolution.” You can read and hear people’s experiences of this in many different sources. I have experienced it—the absolute, undeniably “more real than reality” experience of knowing and sensing unity with all things, and consciousness of all things and being integrated and not separate from all things.

And yet every experience of it must be perceived and told in first person, as “I.”

“I experienced ego dissolution. I was no more. I wasn’t seeing, feeling, tasting—I WAS all of these things, and all things were alive and all things were me. There was no separation.”

Yet that pesky “I” never goes away.

Again, there’s a lot I could write again to explain some of the intricacies, some of which imparted terror, but the ultimate reality that *I* perceived amounted to being one with all things, which are SO much greater than the limitations of this charming little life experience, and this connectivity to all things and this acknowledgment that all things are conscious imparts the greatest ecstasy and joy—AND at the same time, all this comes with the knowing that all things are nothing more than we, just one single solitary being, and these epic life experiences are our dreaming of worlds in which we are not alone. So we fragment ourself into oppositional beings to love and to antagonize one another because otherwise, we’re truly alone forever. So this dreamy fantasy, as messy and painful as it is, is a blissful delusion.

by Anonymousreply 94July 2, 2020 1:01 PM

Does anybody not believe in reincarnation, these days? Fifty years ago, most people thought you died and were buried. You didn't come back till Judgement Day when you, literally, rise from the grave to be judged by God. Does anybody still believe in the Santa Claus God?

by Anonymousreply 95June 17, 2021 4:25 PM

I can't imagine believing that after you die, if you didn't do ONE SINGLE THING WRONG in this lifetime, that you just hang around on a cloud for eternity, worshiping God.

I mean, think about it - an eternity is a pretty long time. Also, not a lot of opportunity for growth when you're just cloud surfing.

What a narrow viewpoint of the hereafter that is. It actually sounds like hell to me. Much more plausible to believe we continue to live different lives and evolve over these lifetimes.

by Anonymousreply 96June 17, 2021 4:37 PM

Total atheist here. Quite a few years ago I went to a therapist who used regression as part of his treatment. We talked about past-life regression and he said he had done it, with mixed results. We tried it, and I "recalled" three past experiences. The most recent being a Greek fisherman, drowning when my boat sank. Very eerie and real to me -right down to the temperature and salinity of the water. Before that it was dying in a fire in my cottage with a mob yelling at me, accusing me of witchcraft. I think I was a man, and it definitely wasn't Old Salem. Somewhere in Europe, maybe. Finally, I had snatches of a large stone wall falling on my in what might have been ancient Babylonia. I never saw myself as an important/glamorous/famous person, and the "memories" were less distinct the further back they went. Surprisingly, no connection with any present-day issues. I love the ocean, have no specific fear of fires or crowds, etc.

Was any of it real? I don't know. Reincarnation? Again, I don't know. But it was an interesting experience. If it was all my imagination, I'm not sure what it says about me...

by Anonymousreply 97June 17, 2021 4:39 PM

R97 Very interesting. Do you feel you have any talents or wisdom that you can draw upon from those past incarnations? Many people say that we continue to acquire knowledge and have a common skill set which seems a common denominator in past lives. It seems that prodigies, of any sort, must feel this, I would imagine.

by Anonymousreply 98June 17, 2021 5:28 PM

Afraid not, R98. I couldn't discover any connections between what came out under hypnosis and my real life.

by Anonymousreply 99June 17, 2021 5:50 PM

R97 I don’t say this to concern you but it seems like your fate is to die horribly in every life, or at strange circumstances. Maybe it’s your karma, you don’t remember dying, I don’t know, from cancer surrounded by loving ones or something?

I think the whole point of reincarnation is to learn and keep repeating the same things if you don’t. So be safe this time.

by Anonymousreply 100June 17, 2021 7:41 PM

I had a weird dream about 25 years ago where I saw a man in a fedora and overcoat - like what men looked like in the 1940s/50s - he creeped up to one of the front windows of a small cottage and saw his woman with another man, caught in the act. That's where the dream ended, yet I knew that something very bad happened and I somehow felt as though the man was ME! I never forgot the dream, but around the same time I had the dream, I had my then girl-friend's car for the day and I drove to her home much earlier than we had both anticipated - I was done earlier than forecast so I just drove to her place. I peaked through the one inch gap between her front room window pane and window blind. What did I see?

Also, over thirty years ago when I was 18 years old, I had a dream which I have never forgotten. I had had a really difficult time coming up - people. Still difficult and always has been, but I won't digress any further. In this dream all those years ago, I saw myself sitting alone at a desk in a class room when a man walked over to me and said very simply "Don't worry, Doug. Don't worry about anything. It's okay. It's okay......" The dream didn't make sense to me then, but makes perfect sense to me now. I'm young, in a classroom, fretting about life, and this man in the dream says those things to me in such an understanding, reassuring, nonchalant way - he may even have shrugged his shoulders. That man was THE Richard Burton. Weird, right?

Just about a year ago, I had another dream which I immediately associated with the RB dream. All I saw was this: I was sitting on a cliff and a woman was standing closely right next to me. We were watching the sunrise over the hillside? or maybe it was a mountain ridge? Anyway, she takes her left hand, and pulls my head right next to her hip as she stretches out her right hand before her and makes a sweeping gesture at the sunrise over that hillside or ridge, and that was it. The woman was Elizabeth Taylor.

by Anonymousreply 101June 17, 2021 8:30 PM

Thanks, R100 -As much as an asshole as I am in this life, I figure I have a lot of karmic debt to pay off over the next few thousand years. ;)

by Anonymousreply 102June 17, 2021 8:51 PM

R27: Wow - me I've been flying in all sorts of aircraft from single engine aircraft to jumbo jets. Since my early 20's I was maybe 21 the first time I flew. Been to the Orlando/Dayton region a lot. Also to the Chicago metro area and then Dallas. No NDEs there but turbulence galore.

by Anonymousreply 103June 19, 2021 11:54 PM

That's not true, R22, which you would know if you bothered to read any case studies of reincarnation.

by Anonymousreply 104August 18, 2021 1:04 PM

Why is this being bumped?

by Anonymousreply 105August 18, 2021 1:08 PM

I've read Ian Stevenson's book on Reincarnation. He says it's easier to find people in places like India, maybe because religion isn't so restrictive there in its dogma. There have been a few here in the States that have been quite convincing. I'm thinking of the fighter pilot who reincarnated as a young boy. He eventually ends up meeting the sister of the dead pilot and the looks on their faces are heartwarming. Another kid who lived as an actor and successful Hollywood agent was also interesting. Cameras followed these two as they met up with family members of the deceased who were turned into believers by information they couldn't have known. I find the whole subject absolutely fascinating even though I have no personal memories of reincarnation myself. I've spent hours on Youtube watching videos, some very convincing ones, of people who claim to be reincarnated. It sounds like the past life memories are prevalent in children before the age of seven or eight.

by Anonymousreply 106August 18, 2021 1:14 PM

[quote]Why is this being bumped?

Because someone started a new thread on the topic and was directed here.

by Anonymousreply 107August 18, 2021 1:15 PM

Im terrified at the possibilty of reincarnation, I've had enough with this life and I WILL throw a massive bitchfit at whatever cosmic entity in charge.

by Anonymousreply 108August 18, 2021 1:21 PM

Because of this, R105.

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by Anonymousreply 109August 18, 2021 1:39 PM

I remember all the dicks I've sucked or sat on in my previous lives, including this one, obviously .

by Anonymousreply 110August 18, 2021 1:44 PM

I wouldn't call it heaven or reincarnation but I do believe that we go somewhere. Our bodies will remain on Earth but the collective energy of our souls will carry on.

by Anonymousreply 111August 25, 2021 2:00 AM

OP = Shoe Poos

by Anonymousreply 112August 25, 2021 2:15 AM

i believe in reincarnation. I don't think we come back as different life forms, but i believe each life on earth is a learning experience

by Anonymousreply 113August 25, 2021 2:42 AM

Was just about to start a "do you believe in reincarnation?" thread when I found this one.

For those of you who DO believe in it, do you think time is linear, and that you can only be reincarnated into a future time?

Or do think time is non-linear, and your "next" life could actually be in the past? For example, you die today, and you're reincarnated in the 1920s or some such?

I guess the above combines questions about reincarnation and multiverses/parallel dimensions.

But I'd be curious what people think.

by Anonymousreply 114November 28, 2021 1:44 PM

How awful would that be to come back?

by Anonymousreply 115November 28, 2021 1:45 PM

^^ I should add that I do believe in reincarnation and, given the current state of the planet, I sometimes find myself worrying about what kind of world I'll return to if, indeed, we're only reincarnated into a future time of our current existence.

by Anonymousreply 116November 28, 2021 1:47 PM

How about speaking in tongues? That interests me. If say so toddler started speaking perfect Latin or its babbling turned out to be Swahili we might have something there to consider.

Is speaking in tongues actually a thing?

by Anonymousreply 117November 28, 2021 2:21 PM

I wouldn't call it Heaven necessarily but I do think we go somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 118November 28, 2021 2:22 PM

I don’t have solid views on what happens after we die, but I do believe that it’s highly arrogant—and typical—of humans to believe that everything can be explained away with logic and with a human perspective on life/death.

Just the fact that it’s commonly accepted that other animals have no understanding that they’ll die one day is ludicrous—how the hell do we know what a dolphin knows about its existence?

Before he died, Stephen Hawkins was exploring the multiverse theory and most physicists believe that time is non-linear. Scientists know that existence doesn’t adhere to the concrete parameters humans have constructed to understand it.

I’m not religious and have no issues with those who are—unless they use it to persecute/oppress. I love Christmas music and Easter and thank the baby Jesus for giving us those. Apart from that, I’m open to whatever happens (if anything happens) post-life—whether it’s eternal repeat of this one or I come back as a sea horse or if I’m some weirdo plant on a distant planet—bring it on!

by Anonymousreply 119November 28, 2021 2:48 PM
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