RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars, Season 5

Mariah and who else, again?

Yay, thanks for the thread.

Mariah is the best looking of all the queens throughout the years. Hope she makes it far

Whattt...r3, Jaida is gorgeous!

"pig in a wig" was said about?

Some background from the Nancy Drews at r/rupaulsdragrace:

Nebraska Thunderfuck, one of Derrick's two boyfriends and Alaska's makeover project in S5, went from ex-Marine to working drag queen and hit it semi-big in Las Vegas. A while back Nebraska beat out India Ferrah for a hosting gig at a gay club called Piranha. India, bitter cunt that she is, got pissed and ranted on FB about Nebraska, claiming she talked shit about the club and embezzled money from another club. Then they did some back-and-forth reading during which India called Nebraska a pig in a wig.

with that nose India should be careful throwing the pig accusation around

isn't the point that it's directed at india - not stated by india?

Come on you cheap bitches, give OP some sweet WW love for starting this thread. Smooches, OP!

I love me some Cracker.

I like most of them. But Jujubee for the win.

I'd also be happy with Alexis Matteo.

Lovely Mariah

What has Blair St. Claire been up to? She is very fishy but seems kind of bitchy and stuck up.

R14, seems like she's going the Miss Fame route, doing FASHION.

r14 umm Blair has been scoring #1's on the charts. I can't see Juju winning since this is her third shot at it.

R16 is posting from two years ago

Blair St. Clair is one of several queens who gives me the creeps. Another one is Kameron Michaels.

Fuck that photo of Mariah at R13 is fierce. She's ready to star in a remake of Dynasty or be the bitch diva of some opera. She doesn't really look like that, especially not now. But I remember when I first saw her walk into the workroom on season 3 - I thought that's the prettiest man I've ever seen. She was wearing a RED dress and the hair was layed back and straight and she had on some ankle straps and legs and high water ass in that simple knit dress. She wasn't contoured for the back row. Just a really pretty man. Perfect skin and smile. I wanted to fuck him/her. Mariah is old school funny too. Talk about not knowing your words? Ha. She'll never excel in acting or dancing but I still might date him. Hey Elijah.

I always thought it was hilarious that Mariah refused to shave her facial hair for her confessionals after season 3 had their break due to the Shangela/Mimi fight... oops I mean, RuPaul's mystery "illness."

r19 Mariah got fat. Also she is a ballroom queen, she doesn't perform or lipsync. It showed when she had to LSFYL.

I'm just not sure I'm ready to go right into an All Star Season tonight......I don't know if I can take the drama.

Seeing some of these losers come back is like donating your old clothes to Goodwill, then going shopping there and seeing them hanging on the rack.

I was hoping I'd never have to see YOU again.

India Ferra??? She was so proud of her $600 dollar titty bib. And Raja and Raven praise her all the time. I guess she's well liked in the clubs. But a terrible dumb contestant with zero skills aside from over accessorized dressing up. I don't like the pig faced queens: India, Morgan and Delta.

But I love Mariah and Jujubee and the somewhat robotic but wonderfully talented Shea Coulee. Miz Cracker has a zing, but a rickety deformed frame for the runway. I know she was poor growing up, but she looks deprived of essential nutriets. What this season of All Stars really NEEDED was Peppermint. She's a human treasure. A great person and entertainer. Those excited about Ongina's return are about to be disappointed. She's not much really. Kinda fake and newly fat.

Don't hate me. This show makes me cringe. I don't know why. I really don't get it. I watched it once. Wasn't interested at all.

Ongina had major eye work done.

I just don't get Miz Cracker. Why doesn't she actually DO something funny, instead of going on about how funny and goofy she is? Enough.

I love Miz Cracker. Such a cutie pie.

yum-ooooooooooo

Best premiere since AS2. I’m very excited about this season.

Mayhem is most handsome as a guy.

If you loved season 12 of Drag Race, watch it again. Instead of All Stars 25. This is canned fuckery. They all were bad to terrible and they look even worse. I won't watch this. The All Star Seasons are complete nonsense. Jujubee was aleady crowned the seaon winner tonight when they allowed her to lip synch in the "talent" competition. The rest is all canned and they're all fat and wear bad showgirl shit. Go watch Jaida and Heidi and Gigi and Jackie and Crystal again. Season 12 was, as many of us said, stellar. Possibly the best ever.

I ain't watching this fuckery. Jujubee wins. Shea comes in second.

India won

Fascinating commentary, guys.

Thx.

Miss Puerto Rico is 40? How old is Ongina?

Well.....I am surprised! I watched it and enjoyed it for the most part!

The right person went home......but I'm not sure the right person won......

There are a lot of cute boys - I would just as soon see them out of drag more often.

Alright now Wow. Jinkx gets the best line, no doubt she insisted to say exactly that. But welcome back to The Vixen, who was done so wrong by the powers that be at Drag Race. Everything she stood for and was criticized for, is what we all accept as necessary truth today. I hope this signifies some chance for Tony to come back to the Drag Race family. He missed out on a lot of opportunity. So many of your other faves are here. It's time.

All Stars 5 is a waste of time.

r37, which is what we exactly want being home for 3 straight months.

Ricky Martin is a crashing bore and his hair looked fake.

Agreed R39. Is there any chance that India Ferra will stay in Reykjavik Iceland? What a bunch of fat talentless OLD COWS. Jujubee can sing with autotune, Blair looks hot in drag and Mariah paints her face like no other. I want to fuck Shea Coulee - stop trying to look like a girl you big sexy hunk. Alexis is a sweet fat old papi now. One episode was enough. I'm not tainting my memories of Season 12 with this "All Star" crew vs the lip synch assassin.

Ricky Martin could take me to the moon and back. One of the sexiest man on the planet.

R40 Tell us how you really feel.

I’m gonna be honest: I actually really liked Derrick’s performance. His Madonna genuinely made me laugh. If it had better written jokes and a more substantial narrative, I think he would have definitely been safe.

It’s also a shame that we’re missing out on another episode of Derrick and India’s feud, which seems genuine and truly hateful, for another episode of Mayhem. I love her “Drama” video and I like that she recreated the look and started off parodying it. If she had a taken breaks in the rap to do more bloop eyeography, it would’ve worked much better. Instead, it was stale. She should’ve gone home. I don’t have high expectations for her run on the show.

I detested Derrick on his season and I’m surprised and relieved he got das boot so early on. I hope he’s wrong about coming back...

Regarding all the complaints about the show being ‘canned’ or pre-determined, etc.: just accept it and watch or don’t watch. I hardly care about the competition aspect of the show. Aside from the prize, which is a lot of money, it doesn’t matter. Just like with American Idol, America’s Next Top Model and every other competition show, being on the show launches some people to career success whether or not they won. In most cases, non-winners make the biggest splash.

If you just watch for entertainment and accept that the competition is just the narrative arc that moves the episodes along without being invested in who is named the winner, it’s a fun show worth watching.

You don’t get anything out of any TV series unless it’s educational. It’s all a big waste of time. If you believe it somehow is not a waste of your time if your favorite wins, then please scan and upload a picture of your Trump University diploma. I’d like to see it.

I can't believe India Ferrah made it past the first episode!

Much less won, r45!

Yeah, it was really hard to pick a winner of that challenge, but India wasn't even in my top 4

It's also painful to watch Evie knowing she has no collagen. She has talent and it's amazing, but she is just destroying her body

Ongina's "reading" in the mini-challenge was sad cringe. Talk about a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent ...

It was refreshing to have a bit of actual "drama" between two contestants, I will say that. You know that Derrick and India actually HATED each other. The only production manipulation needed was to get them in the same room together.

I agree r48. I'm always conflicted watching Yvie perform, she is amazing to watch, but her body can move like that due to a genetic condition and it is not healthy and going to get worse even faster with how she treats it.

And count me surprised that India Ferrah won a challenge, definitely see her as complete filler. But honestly, I don't see it happening again.

Also the 10k just goes back in the pot for next week? Why can't the lip sync assasins get paid.

So the Lip-synch Assassins are not there to be just props. Whatever you think of Yvie, she brought it to that performance. And yeah, not getting why the assassins can't get paid, or at least donate the $10,000 to charity.

I don't care about Derrick and India's feud. Are there any 2 less interesting queens on the planet?

And what am I missing about Mayhem? She blathers on and on like she has all these amazing performance skills that for "reason" she just didn't bring to the table last time. And guess what? She flubbed again. Mayhem Filler indeed.

I'm sure the Assassins are paid something for appearing. Calm down.

And Meh-hem Filler needs to give up those stupid white contact lenses. Or just go away. She's still holding onto the fact that she won the first challenge on her season LOL

I wish Derrick would have stuck around a bit longer, I think he was sent packing too prematurely. From last night's episode, Ongina was more of a weaker link, but he's got the nostalgia factor working in his favor. India Ferrah's drag is really unappealing. I don't know if it's the overdrawn make-up or the garish rubber titties that she always wears on display, but she just ends up looking like Vicki Gunvalson in bad Mariah Carey drag.

It was so nice to see Alexis Mateo. I just love her so much. Like she's a literal day brightener. You can't say that about a lot of people.

Ongina looked frail and feeble, didn't she?

Derrick is the kind of manufactured-drama reality show character who puts me off to reality shows.

I remember that on his season, the show extended one episode for 30 minutes simply to show Derrick having a temper tantrum for that length of time. I’ll always resent him for that. I don’t understand why people enjoy watching brats and bitches pout.

R52 I don't think you're missing anything about Mayhem Miller. There's likely a reason why she was cast so much later than the rest of her WEHO cohort (Raven, Morgan, Detox, etc.). She's a competent performer, but she doesn't have the "it" factor.

“There's likely a reason why she was cast so much later than the rest of her WEHO cohort (Raven, Morgan, Detox, etc.).”

One of these does not look like the others...💃🏾💃🏼💃🏼💃🏼

India Ferrah literally looks like a pig.

It took four sesons before there was even a white winner on this show r59, they have never had a problem casting queens of color.

I enjoyed and agree with all the comments about Miz Cracker's azz.

My pet peeve about this show is when the queens say they were too much "in my head". This is the standard, vague excuse for a poor performance. It feels producer manipulation as it happens nearly every episode.

Mayhem Filler is all talk. Watch her on her IG. All she does is sing horribly while people praise her. It's madding! All those Riverside girls are terrible except Delta. She has talent.

I rewatched all-stars 2 before this. Now that was a season. I missed the part where Phiphi calls out Detox for coming after her on twitter. Detox unapologetically says you came for my sister and we California girls stick together. Shows how she really feels about Willam. DWV was so good together.

Some cynics might say that India winning and Derrick being in the bottom was for drama.

And what happened to the sweet Blair? lol

Blair already told her raped at 21 story. Now she strives to be a whore with an eating disorder. I see porn in her future.

R65 Willam, Vicky, and Detox patched things up and are good friends again. Detox said on some clip that the three of them have been in frequent contact throughout quarantine. Maybe we will get a DWV reunion.

R67 Blair isn't helped by the fact that S12 just aired. If I didn't know any better, I'd think she was Gigi Goode-lite. "Blair St. Clair is all grown up now -- bitches!" So... edgy?

I sincerely hope that Mariah Balenciaga and Alexis Mateo stick around for the majority of the season. Their confessionals are the best. I loved Alexis predicting that Blair St. Clair will crack under the pressure. That's the old school Drag Race bitchery we need. I don't think Mariah Balenciaga (and ballroom queens, in general) really suit the Drag Race competition, but she's a great queen.

Alexis Mateo seems borderline retarded. And now she's a fat retard.

Retarded? She's Puerto Rican! Bam! Sickening, no?

I love Alexis! And I loved seeing her 40-year old fat self shaking it like a LV showgirl on speed. Bam!

I'm watching Darien Lake's season now. I really like her. WHET?

r73 she just did a hey qween - was funny as shit. She is still working turning out on the east coast.

The stupid reaction shots of the judges (always gaping mouths) are so annoying. It really kills the momentum of performances.

R67 Speaking of which, how has Chris Crocker not been cast on Drag Race yet?

Every time I hear her name or see her, my mind swaps out Blair St. Clair with Farrah Moan and my immediate reaction is annoyance. Why does my brain conflate the two? Blair seems much less annoying.

[quote]The stupid reaction shots of the judges (always gaping mouths) are so annoying. It really kills the momentum of performances.

They need to do that to make the performances look better than they really were, and to create the impression that the right queen won.

Though it did appear that Yvie destroyed India. I wondered for a moment if that was strategy on India's part, but I doubt she's smart enough to come up with any strategy.

I was impressed by India's knee slide though. It does look like she does it often though- in the promos, they show her doing it alone.

I also feel kind of freaked out when Yvie contorts because it seems like it has to be bad for her. But it’s her choice to do that with her body, and she even built it into her drag identity. She’s a “freak.” Her ability to walk over backward from the ground is incredible, and she turned her rare disease into a unique talent. I choose to be impressed by her instead of worrying for her. You live once, and she’s living it up.

I would have liked them to not eliminate anyone the first episode so that we can see more of the queens. I'm not sure I like the lip sync assassin thing. Feels like the show is becoming more and more about lip syncing than performance, and by doing so alienates other versions of drag.

I love Willam's new homage to Derrick:

R82 That is both incredibly well done and appropriately annoying for an homage to Drag Race’s big DB.

love r82!

Better than anything Derrick's done her ownself!

I thought India was going to be underwhelming but she knows how to deliver a performance. I don't mind her rubber looking tits after seeing so many dodgy ones since on the show. Whatsherface that won season 12 recently had a shoddy set and she still managed to do well.

Alexis should've won her performance was the most entertaining, and way too open a show, Didn't care for Shea's stripper pole roboticness, the close-up to her face for some reason I found unsettling. I was wondering why they felt the need to insert a BLM message at the beginning of the program, it seemed strangely placed but I guess Mariah's monotone performance explains why it was there.

r79 she did that move on her original season. She has been doing it for at least 10 years.

Whatsherface? There was nothing shoddy about Jaida Essence Hall. She was pure class. She's beloved by every reviewer and most all fans. She was funny with just enough bitchy and loving and a great dancer and good improviser and the most flawless queen on the runway. And none of it was an act. She's an experienced queen with a sweet heart, stable life and fun sense of humor about herself. You won't find one top level Ru girl who didn't want Jaida to win. Look back on twitter posts for the last 2 months. There was nothing "shoddy" about Jaida. Her pageant excellence PLUS all her other surprises were overwhelming talents. Your white robe is showing R86. Shut the fuck up about Mariah too. Jaida's titty bib was right for her hand made, self made, all created by herself gorgeous DRAG. Take a seat. Whatsherface? Jaida Essence Hall is one of the top 3 most deserving winners of drag race, EVAH!!

[quote]Feels like the show is becoming more and more about lip syncing than performance, and by doing so alienates other versions of drag.

I do think about this r81. Bianca Del Rio is the most successful winner to have come out of the show, but if she had to lip sync for the crown she wouldn't have won.

Jaida was an old school style queen who functions - entertainingly and humorously - in the world that exists outside instagram.

That’s becoming rarer and rarer.

r89 I believe Trixie Mattel is more successful than Bianca.

Eh, Bianca has been selling out nice venues on her own for years r91. If we are ranking on who has made the most money, I'd have my money on Bianca.

The fact that either of them are millionaires is all due to Drag Race R91. That said, Bianca would have always made a living, with or without RuPaul. Trixie - no. Never.

R88, If whatsherface name was worth remembering I would remember it. You're really trying to gas her up lol She's bland and dull and her tits were dodgy. Period. And Mariah sucked so DEAL with it.

So is anybody who is critical of black queens automatically racist? Is that how it works? Lol...

Bianca is selling out arenas in Europe. I love Trixie but she's not doing the same. Sorry.

I was disturbed when Derrick couldn't separate himself for Britney Spears. Everything rolls back to whatever Britney would do. Is he Britney in Bed? When he's at a restaurant with friends, are they having dinner with Britney?

Thy want to know who he is. His refusal to see the point is troubling. I fear for the next 40 years of his life. He can't be Britney forever. Can he?

R96 If Britney dies, will Derrick die?

r95, Trixie has a successful makeup line, which apparently puts her $1 million over Bianca's net worth.

Receipts, r98?

“He can't be Britney forever. Can he?”

Chad Michaels has been Cher for 56 years, so why not? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Trixie will eclipse Bianca if she hasn't already, Bianca / Roy has stayed pretty tried and true to who she is. She hosts gigs and does her comedy shows. I think he likes his life as it is, he does his thing, doesn't care if he offends people, and speaks his mind on social media. He is mid 40s, has a successful career, has made millions, and is content doing what he does. Trixie / Bryan is taking a completely different approach. He is performing and doing shows, releasing music, has a Netflix show on Youtube, and a WoW online show with Katya, has a make up line, is doing tons of collabs with influencers (James Charles etc), put out music albums, is all over social media and branching out (does live Twitch shows weekly) and is generally spending a ton of energy on self promotion. And he is only 30.

90% of Trixie's success is underserved IMO. It's a fluke, a weird sign of the times, a sad abomination worse than a shoddy titty bib. Still, I grant her 9% more deserved success than Katya. At least Trixie has a head for business and playing Uncle Fester. Fuck. I'd rather watch Paris Hilton and buy her makeup. And her shoes and T-shirts and perfume. Who the fuck is Trixie Mattel?

R102 = Shangela

None of these queens' paltry careers you're all quibbling over can compare to the supernova success that The Vixen has had post RPDR. I hear she doesn't even have to pay cover charge or bus tables at the clubs she performs at anymore.

R101, I’m a big Trixie fan but I think she should narrow her focus a little more. The makeup line is smart because she worked as a retail makeup artist for years and knows how to sell it. It’s also smart in regards to her young female fanbase.

I personally think her best strength is her comedy. But that singing career...gurl. She did a poll on her Twitter a few weeks back asking people what they wanted to see more of on her YouTube channel. She gots thousands and thousands of responses. The vast majority wanted to see more comedy.

The selection for “Music” barely cracked five percent. I almost felt bad for her.

Watch out, R104. You’ll beetlejuice the Vixen stan into this thread and get called old drunk white f word posting on multiple devices.

R102 I am with you. I don't get how those two happened to sky rocket to fame. I didn't watch when it all happened. Was it from their WoW show? I watched a few episodes of it. The editing effects are good but the actual comedy is lacking. Their over the top laughs at each others' comments aren't that entertaining. What made Trixie and Katya famous?

Trixie has a ton of merch. I agree, the music is well...it is clear why the music career didn't take off pre drag race!

r99 remember I said, "Apparently"

r99 Take it with a grain of salt. Remember the odious Jeffree Star is worth $10 mil with his cosmetics

Please move your discussion regarding Trixie Mattel and Bianca del Rio to the ALL SEASONS RPDR thread!

Ladies, R110 has spoken.

Get Trixie OUT OF HERE!!! And I’m just getting over my PTSD from Shangela getting rigged out for Trixie’s stunningly shitty performance in AS3.

Anyhoooooo... this season is going to be fun! I LOVE all of these bitches except, sadly, Shea who I always found robotic and good but not great.

Alexis still brings the cunt and I am so here for it. I’m honestly shocked she’s been back 3 times because she hates Michelle. BUT I STONED THEM FOR YOU. So fierce. So LARGE AND IN CHARGE!

I want to love my OG Filipiñana Ongina but oh my. Thankfully the wondrous Mariah is back tho. S3 is still the best.

Juju is such a ringer. She’s quick on her feet and fantastic. Nothing more needs to be said.

Cracker is such a great narrator and just has a face to remember. I’m always hooked into her confessionals. Blair looked stunning in her performance. Mayhem bores but is so handsome and has such a good energy.

India winning... what an unexpected legend even if she stole it from my Boricua QUEEN. I’m old enough to remember when she quit drag. What a drama bomb. Hilarious she slayed Derrick. Derrick was an easy first boot but god I laughed so hard at her and bless her heart for actually trying something interesting.

And Yvie was fucking amazing. Love that the moneypot rolls over like the lotto. Bring it home Alexis! I hope the bars open back up so some of these old school bitches can make money.

Ongina was painful to watch. Shea seemed genuinely confused during Ongina's part of the reading challenge.

r93 Love Bianca - but she would not be successful without RPDR - She was working as a dressmaker on broadway to make ends meet before she got cast. Yes she is selling out arenas now but not that is because of Drag Race. Her movies, her tours - all because of her being on DR.

[Quote] Mayhem bores but is so handsome

Is he really? He's fat.

Accent on dress maker. She can only make one dress over and over and over

r116 lol she was read for that. The same could be said for Trixie's make-up. She has the one severe clown look.

Thicker than a Snickers, R115.

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BIG GIRL WALKING DOWN THE STURDY STREET

I suspect that Ongina is basically another Latrice Royale...a queen who is beloved (and I love them both too), but it's mostly due to her persona and the hard luck story. And, in certain limited situations, they both can deliver a stellar performance...but overall, there just isn't much there. I remember seeing Ongina doing standup comedy on TV many years ago, and she was painfully unfunny...not unlike this week's reading challenge.

I'm not even a big fan of drag, outside of watching Drag Race, but I'm constantly amazed every season how the art form is evolving so rapidly. It's like they just keep coming up with new ways to wow us. I suspect that Ongina has pretty much just coasted on her Drag Race association all these years, and hasn't bothered to keep up. It's astonishing to me that such a seasoned veteran managed to turn in such a shoddy, unprepared performance. I hope I'm wrong about her, because I like her a lot.

I'm rooting for Miz Cracker, Alexis, and Jujubee.

I love Jujubee. There's a certain "we're in on the game" with her, and she makes it seem fun. I used to like Miz Cracker, but she's becoming so manufactured with her little pet phrases (much like Jan).

[quote]I suspect that Ongina is basically another Latrice Royale...a queen who is beloved (and I love them both too), but it's mostly due to her persona and the hard luck story. And, in certain limited situations, they both can deliver a stellar performance...but overall, there just isn't much there. I remember seeing Ongina doing standup comedy on TV many years ago, and she was painfully unfunny...not unlike this week's reading challenge.

She was great as a regular on that short-lived spin-off [italic]RuPaul's Drag U,[/italic] where they helped fraus become fabulous à la [italic]Dragnificent[/italic] on TLC.

R121, it’s funny you say that. I watched that same comedy special. The audience was so excited about seeing the breakout star of Drag Race, which was Ongina. I was so unimpressed with her performance, and along with the terrible cinematography of the first season, it took me a while to come around to Drag Race.

I've posted this before, but back when Ongina still had her gorgeous slender boy androgyny going on, this was a great and favorite performance of hers. It's a bit on the nose but powerful nonetheless. It was his 11 o'clock number. In a bar. But Drag Race is not a bar. Ongina isn't much of an actor or dancer or wit. He looks old and chubby now. She still has style though. He's not going to go too far on All Stars. Loveable little bitch. They are low key editing the show. It's between Jujubee and Shea, all the way.

ugh, Shea is so over rated. I preferred Naomi Smalls for that kind of look. The robotic pole dance was terrible.

I thought Shea was going to be in the bottom after she lumbered around that pole.

Shea's already won the season. Her pole dance was terrible, but she wins the crown.

Ongina didn't have a handle on herself back in Season 1, and her insecurities haven't been diminished this many years later. She needs to find a niche she can be comfortable in and make it her own.

I feel like she seemed more confident back in season one.

I have a soft spot for Onjina, not sure why, there is just a sweet vibe there.

Jujubee can do just about anything, and I feel entertained. Jujubee for the win! Uneless as one poster mentioned, something to the effect, some queens don't want to get locked into the "we own you for years" WOW contract. Maybe initially he was just doing this for a bit more exposure. Before That Cunt Rona came around, it wouldn't have been a bad idea, but now with the dearth of gigs, getting that top prize money is a much bigger deal.

Shea’s eyes are so close together, she is almost a cyclops. She does not have stereoscopic vision, it’s monoscopic, and she should not be permitted to drive.

The pole was shaking so I think that affected the performance. There are good YouTube's of her. I don't blame her for not trying her trick on defective equipment.

But didn’t Shea say on the show that she had only been doing poll dancing for a month? If that was the case, it definitely showed.

r133 Agree. That was bullshit. I don't think it was her relative lack of talent, but the fact the pole was not installed well to put it mildly, and she likely played it safe. It was shaking like a motherfucker, and that's going to throw anyone off (literally or figuratively) regardless of how talented. This show really cheaps out at the oddest times.

Shea's pole dancing routine was borderline uncomfortable; it certainly was tacky.

I used to pole dance regularly and nothing she did was beyond a beginner level. Her body wasn't graceful, she looked awkward.

Then when she pracrically humped the floor at the end? Was she trying to be sexy?

Drag Race is FUN and campy, that routine was off brand.

I just saw Hustlers with Jennifer Lopez last week and now THAT was pole dancing. Shows what a good performance can be. Sheas was not.

All of Shea’s fans are about to get a rude awakening now that she has actual competition. I think she deserved to win S9, but that was because the initial front runners (Valentina, Nina, Farrah) fizzled out, and Adjunct Professor Sasha was about as exciting as a tetanus shot.

But Reddit acts like she’s the greatest competitor in the history of the show which she was, uh, not.

R137 Hustlers was also a big-budget feature film that probably paid for J Lo to get three months of pole dancing classes, spent two full days filming her pole dancing scenes, edited together the very best shots from two days of footage, and probably used a professional pole dancer body double for most of the impressive shots.

But OK, fair to compare to a single-take drag queen performance on a rickety $25 rental pole.

R134 Even less, in Untucked she said that she had only taken her first lesson 10 days prior, I believe!!!!!! Which explains a lot!

r139, Hustlers was a low budget movie at $20 mil. JLo probably sank her own money in for pole dancing lessons.

FARRAH WAS NEVER A FRONT RUNNER lolol

Are any of them from NYC - I don't recognize them....

I just watch the first episode. It was good. I wish Britney was still there to fight it out with India.

Top 3: Juju, Shea, Alexis Top 4: Juju, Shea, Alexis, Cracker Top 5: Juju, Shea, Alexis, Cracker, India

I don't think Ongina will make it past one or two more episodes. But the exposure is all she needed, really. The rest I don't care when they leave, but I'm standing by my predictions.

R143 More like the Queen of Maine, bitch.

Cracker will be top 3.

Cracker will be Miss Congeniality

Cracker will be dipped in spinach dip.

R149 Dill dip*

Airline seems to me to be in a whole other league talentwise than all the others. Just utterly beyond them.

Has k.d. lang ever been a guest judge on this show?

Whenever Juju's on screen, it's The Jujubee Show and I forget about everyone else. Love him!

I think R122's analysis of Jujubee is 100% correct. She's so enjoyable because she's "in on the game," so to speak. She's witty and smart in such a natural way. Yeah, her fashion looks like it's from the mall, but her appeal is due to her personality. She doesn't take herself too seriously and it's refreshing.

r154, she stepped up her look in Dragnificent or Dragtastic or whatever the hell it was called. Actually, Bob did too. I don't know why she didn't enter the workroom like this:

Bob is not on Dragnificient - He is on We're Here. With Juju and Alexis, I don't think it is really fair to the other competitors. They both had two chances. I also don't think they should have top threes back (top threes from their seasons). It should be the middle of the pack kids.

Oh yes, you're right r156- I went on an all drag show binge for 2 days, so it kind of blurs together. Bob did look great on We're Here- they employed some great makeup artists for them.

R156, that’s a silly idea. Yeah, there should be middle of the pack girls who have upped their game. But many girls (except Naomi Smalls) got to Top 3 because they were talented. It would be a very boring and embarrassing show if it consisted of people dismissed as not having what it takes relatively early in the season. This is also why I oppose all First Outs season.

R158 I'm going to be honest, I find it DELIGHTFUL to imagine how terrible a First Outs season would be. Furthermore, Shangela was the first boot of season 2 and it could finally be her chance to win the crown! They could also get Vangie to make an appearance!!

Just imagining queens like Venus D-Lite and Jaymes Mansfield competing in Rusicals and acting challenges cracks me up. Can you imagine?

Jaymes Mansfield has actually found her niche doing wig transformations on YouTube. She’s made some very entertaining videos, and it’s interesting to see how the process works. Sometimes Drag Race isn’t the best avenue for a queen’s talent.

Thank you r160. So much fun!

I love Jaymes!

I’m glad Jujubee is there. I’d rather see her brought back often than see Shangela come in with her stupid Game of Thrones strategy.

I’ve said this before and I guess I am the only one who feels this way, but I watch Drag Race for the entertainment. It’s much better and has more lasting watchability than other competition shows because the competition is just a framework for all sorts of different talents, plus campy humor, plus occasional moving moments. I don’t care who wins. And the winners don’t seem to do better necessarily than other standout personalities. So I watch for entertainment generally. Airline is entertaining every moment he’s onscreen, and he also seems like a nice person. So if he’s brought back every other season, so be it. Better than Phi Phi or Acid Betty or Milk or some other asshole.

Jujubee is not on “We’re Here” on HBO. It’s Bob, Shangela, and the giant fat one.

Jujubee is on another drag show with Bebe, Thorgy and Alexis.

r165 r164 yes we sussed that out.

Aww, I feel a bit bad for Ongina, but sending him home was the right choice. :(

I'm looking forward to Miz Cracker vs. Alexis next week.

Whoa. After a pretty decent premiere, we really crashed back down to Earth tonight, didn’t we?

That was hard to get through.

Let’s just rightfully crown Jujubee and get this all-boogers version of “All Stars” over with.

Glad Orangina is gone. Her too precious schtick was grating and she was poor in every challenge given her.

Plus she have the AIDS.

What is Miz Cracker's appeal? Seriously, has she ever been funny?!

Did Alyssa tank that LSFYL? Shea was great, but that was about quarter speed Alyssa.

I never thought Alyssa was a good LSer. She was available so the show booked her. She's sucked!

I’d be more inclined to think Alyssa thew the lip sync if Ongina hadn’t been Shea’s pick, because she was going home either way.

Alyssa was one half of arguably the best lip sync of the best season of All Stars.

Ms. Cracker looks like a miniature pony. What a strange body and head shape he has. This season is terrible and the Rusical number was one of the worst ever. They are not All Stars. The Pointer Sisters were great though.

I felt old when RuPaul said you shouldn’t google “Peter Lupus nude”. He was one of the first celebrities to pose for Playgirl. He didn’t intend to go full-frontal at the photo shoot. His wife went with him and insisted he do it. So, he was the first full-frontal celebrity in the magazine.

I still have the issue, from 1973.

Derrick leaving fucked with the dynamics of the cast. He makes great TV: combative, delusional, and his feud with India seems to stem from genuine hate. It was compelling to watch. I’m not saying he should’ve won, but we could’ve at least had a few more episodes. And all for Meh-ham Miller to be unmemorable for another week.

It really highlighted how weak the cast is this year. It’s interesting to see Cracker become a villain, but even that isn’t that interesting.

As the poster said above, I was surprised at how exciting the premiere was, and how it felt like OG Drag Race, and now we’re back to watered down, modern age Drag Race.

Alexis and Jujubee are the only good things about this season.

Who in the world is "Airline", r163?

Jujube's real name

R180 see R181. It’s the name Jujubee’s parents gave him. Airline. It’s not a foreign name. It’s actually Airline, in English.

There's just something about Cracker I don't like. I don't know what it is.

I don’t get the Cracker storyline. What I seem to remember from her original season was that she came across like a more likable, quirkier and more interesting and rough-around-the-edges counterpart to Aquaria—albeit one with an oddly shaped body.

Now she’s the villain who everyone hates and who has no friends in life? Was that part of the original persona that I somehow erased from memory, or is it newly scripted for All Stars?

Ms Cracker hits the runway.

I was thinking the same thing r172. To me it was clear Alyssa was not actually trying to win that lip sync, though I guess the lip sync assasins don't necessarily have an incentive to give it everything they have.

Is Cracker on the autism spectrum or something. I've heard guys with Aspergers talk like that about friendship.

I noticed that about Cracker, R184. She seemed to be somebody totally different. Or was there just more drama in the last one that she got overshadowed due to the big personalities of Eureka and The Vixen? Who knows. Also, Blair is a new person this season. Monet said on her show that Blair is not the same person that she knew, how she was quiet on S10 and used to talk about her family. Maybe she just came out of her shell and also wants to be more memorable.

I love Jujubee. I thought Shea was amazing this week.

I started out a Cracker superfan but hated her by the end of her season. Now I can’t stand to hear her voice no matter what she says.

Should I pity her? She just seems so clueless and unhappy. Yet she remains so arrogant and mean. I hope she goes next.

Shea did look stunning on the runway, but I wish her afro was bigger.

The "Pink Pussy" comment cracked me up.

Ongina.....gurl....WTF is going on?

And Derrick is probably right, they'll bring the eliminated queens back for a challenge to stay. Why hasn't he done Lady Gaga? That would be a good lateral move, since she has a variety of looks.

Rumor has it that there will be no eliminated queen challenge this season.

So, has Rupaul gained weight? The dress he wore last night looked like a stunning red dress that they then drapped 40 yards of fabric around the middle. He looked big last week too.

Blair seems a little to aggressive with wanting to not be the quiet one this season, but lacks any sharp wit to carry off a shady, bitchy tone without seeming forced,

As opposed to India being the low-end villain who is easy to hate, Cracker is set up to be the villain of the season, but a competitive villain-lite who..... but you don't want spoilers, do you. Jujubee thus can get a free pass on her acidic tongue and play old-and-new-ultra and Shea can remain the putative....

Sorry, I won't go there. It's just obvious that everyone else is filler or on a platter for the moment and then set to be brushed aside. Cracker has paid her dues to WOW, and Jujubee is a nod to the queens from the past who remain current and have gotten even better. Shea is in the nouveau-BLM era and has improved the few rough edges she had. However, don't think that Ru & Company don't play the quota system, and with Monét, Ivy and Jaida sitting with their recent crowns, it just could be the moment for an Asian winner, finally (well, since Raja), and no one could fault Jujubee getting it.

IF she can outperform Shea, which is doubtful.

PS: The All-Stars 4 double win really was an acknowledgement that no one had "it" completely on her own, so they split it. It wasn't a "they're both so great we couldn't possibly let one not win without the other."

Affirmative action race. Now on vh1.

Mayhem Miller is such an unnecessary cunty bitch. Just like Morgen and Detox. What's with the Riverside girls? Why all the tiresome attitude?

Even the production value of this season seems subpar.

They just wheel some couches into the middle of the workroom for the elimination discussions/Untucked. They used to, at the very least, dim the lighting to make it seem a little different and dramatic.

And what’s with that chintzy bathroom set with the sparkly walls? At first, I thought it was a deliberate throwback to the old Interior Illusions days, but I don’t think that’s the case.

It’s like production knows the cast sucks (except for Juju) and just wants to get this over with as easily and as cheaply as possible.

Tessa Thompson has sad eyes. And they're really trying to make that Madison Beer (?) person happen- she was one of the celeb makeovers for the Celeb Drag Race show.

Tessa Thompson is very charismatic. She was pretty honest in her critiques, which surprised me. Usually the celebrity guest judges are much more mild in their feedback.

Ongina was really out of her comfort zone. I wonder if it's partially due to her health? She seems like such a good person.

Shea's runway look was stunning, so was Blair's.

Ru looked so happy, which was nice. He seemed off to me in Season 12. Is he sick?

I think Cracker may be on the ASD spectrum, yes. I've struggled with similar issues, and it isn't easy to change, but one can.

I remember thinking Tessa Thompson was one of the worst professional actresses I’d ever seen when she was on the second season of Veronica Mars. Her recent success is baffling to me.

That's where I recognized her from. Yeah, Veronica Mars pretty much just dropped her storyline, huh? She was a good judge.

Ugh. Miz Cracker is hideous and boring. She just wants camera time, doesn't have any talent.

I like this more confident Blair St. Clair and her voice. I was pleasantly surprised by her.

Poor Ongina. She seems more of Style Queen rather than a Performance Queen.

Would have loved to see Nina Bonina Brown on AS5. Maybe she'll be a Lipsync Assassin? Her round with AJA is one of the best. That titty shake!

A classic! Bring Darienne or Ben in for the kill!

Ben is one of the best!

Milan from season 4 was a great lip syncer when he wasn’t pulling his wig off

R206, hard disagree. Milan was too spastic and desperate during her lip syncs. And the only reason she has so many is because she sucked in the challenges. Milan is the last person they should bring back.

Wouldn't it have been great, that by a freak chance, they brought back Sasha Velour with Shea lip syncing? What the hell is Sasha up to anyway? She doesn't seem to have benefited from winning. Or taken advantage of it at least.

R208 are you kidding? Sasha has been touring the world with her "Smoke and Mirrors" tour, which is in pause due to Corona. I saw it in London and it's honestly one of the best things I've ever seen.

Yes she comes across as a SJW but she puts on a damn good show.

Sasha had a show on Quibi, the paid YouTube app that completely bombed on arrival. She should stick to her tours. She sucked the life out of every scene she was in on Drag Race. Pretentious, boring snob with a Gallagher-like gimmick that turned her into the least deserving winner the show has ever seen.

Tessa was awful on Veronica Mars, and even worse on WestWorld. How does she get work?

I agreed with the winner and the loser last night......but all of the comments here are very on the money about the contestants.

Last week made me excited for the rest of the season.....this week's episode seemed three hours long.....

Blair St. Clair is boring. She's just copying other edger queens from the past. There's nothing original about her. Boring!

Ongina made me feel embarrassed. They never even wanted him on the first 19 seasons of All Stars. When she finally gets on, he's fronting some Warner Brothers plot and is completely talentless, old, short and fat. ONG spent a lot of money on those looks and had a backup look for every runway, according to the other queens. Then this little chubby asian man is C R Y I N G for two weeks that he has so much more to give? Yuk. It felt like months. They're right that Ongina has no neck or calves or anything that connects his tiny fat parts. So all that expensive and heavy fashion went nowhere. Someone will say he's a legend. No, he's not. Lots of people live with HIV. Life is a celebration!

Shea was THE drop dead gorgeous specimen of beauty and strength on the runway this week. Not quite as good in closeup. All these queens are looking busted and fat. Give them some cover and better lighting. Sheesh. Even Jujubee looks old and not pretty in the werkroom. There's something depressing about this season. I love Mariah, but she was SHIT in that girly group challenge. She couldn't write a verse or dance better than that??? Her gown of course was beautiful. And the boy is still pretty.

I still can't believe that some posters here didn't see the supreme all round excellence and gorgeousness in Jaida Essence Hall. That bitch is IT!! Drag Race hasn't had such a deserving, talented, gorgeous, irreverent and dearly beloved personality win in many years.

Shea is gonna get her crown for All Stars. She's by far the most talented AND innovative. Jujubee, like Shangela is cunty and cute - but not destined to ever win.

Miz Cracker is no congeniality. She vomits neurosis and unhappiness all over the place. Alexis Matteo remains sweet and easy fun bitchy as ever. She wins that prize.

I get weird vibes from Blair this season. I feel like she’s gotten a much bigger head this time around...which is a little strange since her first time out wasn’t very impressive. I know things are going well with her music and it’s good that she built up some confidence, but it’s rubbing me the wrong way.

Also, enough with the straight fan girl guest judges. It’s annoying enough that the show has been hijacked without the constant reminders.

Obviously, legends like Chaka etc. don’t apply.

They probably got Tessa because of Thandie.

Blair's face is so full of fillers now she looks like a goddamned freak out of drag. At least before she looked like a boy.

Blair is a boy? Like Peter Pan.

I'm already guessing Shea, Jujubee and Alexis as the final three. I don't have a clear-cut winner, yet.

[quote]I'm already guessing Shea, Jujubee and Alexis as the final three.

I mean, are there any other contestants?

Did Blair get pointy Maleficent cheek implants? What the hell happened to her face?

Miz Cracker reminds me of Ron Regan Jr in the face.

What does Ongina bring to the table. Lord, is she hard to look at. Like my new weight loss trick is thinking of Ongina before I want to eat.

Reagan looks like the TMZ guy

I'm already guessing Shea, Jujubee and Alexis as the final three.

Alexis is not and Craker is.

Isn’t Craker a Danish crime drama?

Shea Coulee wins the season. It was filmed almost a year ago.

If people wanted spoilers they would go find the spoilers themselves r226.

Why is it with this show people are so obsessed with posting spoilers. It never changes, every season is the same.

R228 is a stupid fucking cunt.

So I do not recognize Blair St. Clair out of drag anymore.

Did he get a lot of work done, or are there just so many queens I don't remember what he looked like anymore.

Every fucking season we have some mental midget posting spoilers in the running thread. Just zero consideration for others.

I think it was in one of the Season 12 threads where someone posted that Derrick would get eliminated first in All Stars. I still enjoyed last week's episode but knowing what was going to happen at the end didn't help.

In Season 9, someone posted about the circumstances of Valentina's elimination weeks before it happened. In All Stars 3, Ben's self-elimination was spoiled early in the season.

I know this board has a high level of misanthropic nutjobs but I guess nothing is sacred....

There are some nutcases who post here r232. R226 is going crazy liking their own spoiler and FFing people who call them out.

Blair looks the same to me, even with the fillers. It looks like her drag has improved quite a bit.

Alexis looks like a janitor out of drag.

Miz Cracker is adorably neurotic. Based on this last episode, she appears to have zero self-awareness.

I went into this season wanting Shea to win, because she was robbed on her season. I hope she nails it.

What's sacred about Shea Coulee being the obvious winner? Jujubee and Miz Cracker make the final three. There are no other possible contenders. Were you expecting Mayhem Miller to win the crown R233? India Ferrah? You must be a very old man if you've don't follow Drag Race on any other forum than Datalounge.

Alexis does win Miss Congeniality if that makes you feel better. Has there ever been a more dude booger queen than Alexis? Jessica Wilde and Acid Betty came close.

R235 Shut the FUCK up about Jessica Wilde. I will NOT TOLERATE any negative things said about her!!!!

Call me when Miz Cracker does anything as memorable as Jessica's Absolut advertisement!!!

R235, stop being an ass.

[183] the lack of a jaw

Who keeps telling these producers that Drag Race needs more musical numbers?

Me!

[R204]: I love Bianca Del Rio's comment.

R240, as soon as the episode got underway, I screamed, “OMG, ANOTHER FUCKING MUSICAL???”

My boyfriend told me to calm down and stop being so grumpy.

He later said, “Ok, yeah. Enough with the musicals.”

I'm disappointed at the weeding-out of earlier-season queens that started with Ongina.

Cracker is repulsive. Overly prepared, lacking in spontaneity, on the spectrum, needily craven, mean-spirited and self-centered. This is the confidence she lost in her original season? Can't blame the edit, girl. And she can't win with the baggage she's setting up.

Ugh. Shea. A generic performer without a persona and with a very typical, if expensively crafted, "look." She's just another blah queen who believes she should win because she's that "total package." But she lacks the uniqueness and charisma almost all the winners have had. Well, Monet and Trinity lack those qualities, too. Monet is just entitled and Trinity is just a pageant queen with a pathetic appearance from abuse who has two comedic tricks to make her seem "multi-talented."

They’ve been riding “Read U Wrote U” until the wheels fall off. I don’t mind the girl group challenge as long as it’s once a season, but yeah, the musical numbers are getting played out. Also choreographed dance is a skill that not everyone has. I understand you need to be decent at it to be in those Werk the World tours, but I think it puts some queens at a disadvantage when there’s ten of these every season. The same thing goes for having the first episode be a sewing challenge, which the show seems to have retired after they lost one of their biggest personalities (Vanjie) right away over it in S10.

Bianca Del Rio likely wouldn't win, or would at least end up in the bottom, in these seasons that focus too heavily on singing and dancing.

Where are the fucked up challenges, like the talk show when Jocelyn Fox asked Cher's mom about her abortion, or the great ones like the DIY pride floats?

This challenge was TERRIBLE. Good god. Tina must have been in the room when the writers thought up this idea.

Chadwick Boseman was your first celebrity crush? Hannibal Lecter? Okay gurl. 🙄 And WHAT were some of these bitches wearing for the bedroom?! Alexis, come on girl.

That said Shea absolutely nailed everything with the ONLY fun verse (Alexis is 2nd) and that runway look was killer. One of the best on all the seasons. Perfecto. Blair looked fantastic in the shitty song but the runway look was dumb.

lol at India having to go up against Yvie and Shea having to go against goony Alyssa. Justice for India!

Alexis and Jujubee are still the best for TV. Cracker’s 3rd. Mariah is getting lost like in her original series. Shea was great on stage but is such a bore in her confessionals. It’s her destiny to be middling TV.

Ongina’s dumpy sparkly shorts and that fucking wig. Horrific. And then the CRYING. My husband and I pulled out our phones in sync when it started. What’s with these emotional wreck Filipina queens? I just got over Rock M. It’s so embarrassing. Waiting 11 years and then that happens. Eesh.

Give Vivienne Pinay another whirl. At least she didn’t cry her eyes out like all the other Filipino queens have.

Cracker is a terrible drag queen, though I did catch his Web show, and he was surprisingly good. I'm almost embarrassed to say it, though, but out of drag, I find him pretty cute.

Cracker’s YouTube show is so cringy. The robotic neck snaps and rehearsed jokes are boring.

Manila Luzon is 1/2 Filipino.

I've seen Cracker's one woman show - she's talented, but similar to Jan there's a "please love me!" vibe to everything she does. She's entertaining, but her demons will always get in the way

Was Ongina even wearing hip pads in the musical number? She looked like a bridge troll

Even though I'm not a Cracker fan, I agree that she's good at what she does but is so unappealing since she's desperate to be all things to all people. If she just stayed in her lane, she'd have a solid fan base and would probably be much happier.

If Mariah gets an early boot.....I will be annoyed. She's hilarious and has cool drag.

I think either Alexis BAM! Mateo or Blair should've won this challenge. Their lyrics were WAY funnier and entertaining. It's clear the show wants Shea to win, or at least to build that narrative, so they gave her the win. I will give her the runway-it was STUNNING. But that's Shea: fierce, but very little substance.

R252, Mariah is funny in confessionals and in web shows, but she just dies during the competition. She would do better to lean into comedy chops. She tries too hard to come across as a serious pageant queen that she blends into the background. And that speech she gave to Shea during deliberations was so scripted and pageant-y.

She’ll be gone sooner rather than later.

looks like Miz Cracker has been eatin' a lot of cheez-whiz on those crackers.... she's huge! Look at those thighs! (and that ain't padding!)

Miz Cracker did state that she gained 35 pounds at the start of the season.

[quote]Give Vivienne Pinay another whirl. At least she didn’t cry her eyes out like all the other Filipino queens have.

I read somewhere that Vivienne DID cry a lot in the confessionals, but production didn't use any of it because they already had a crying queen that season (Jinkx Monsoon).

Peter Lupus nude

In his own words...

Here is the centerfold.

At this point, I feel like we’re biding our time until Mariah, India, and Mayhem are eliminated.

Surely one of those 3 will be next. Probably Mayhem.

I always loved Peter on the front cover of Annette's MUSCLE BEACH PARTY album.

And on the back cover with Annette's BOSS version of "Rebel Rider."

Alexis is really winning me over in a way that she didn't do in season 3. I don't know what it is, maybe there's more of a relaxed/I'm-just-happy-to-be-here vibe?

They famously had little food to eat in the early seasons. But a lot more booze. They had to send out from their rooms or walk down the corner to pick up some Taco Bell or potato chips. Alexis is happier this time due to abundant craft service. He is quite a likeable and sensible and joyful person. Been at it for a long time in the game in Miami. But thick or FAT, Alexis will always look like a man. She, more than any Drag Race contestant is the living definition of a pageant queen. She still lives that life. You don't have to be pretty, just pile on the drag. Those hair loaves - I hate them.

Alexis was so kind to Yara and friendly to Shangela. She saw the decency in Manila but was so wise and careful about Raja and Delta and Carmen in season 3 - what's not to like? He's a great guy. Smart. Visage HAS always been mean to her. She can't stand that presentation or body shape. (too close to home?)

Sorry for the long post, but Alexis was always likable. In the final challenge of Season 3 - the one portraying goddess statues and salsa dancing with a man - she was the very best. Manila should have won that year's crown. But Raja gave Ru all those bitchy tips on how to impersonate Tyra Banks. Over lunch. Ru awarded his old friend the crown. Just like Tyra did with Saleisha.

R264, I liked her enough in season three and ended up hating her in AS1. I think not having Yara there is letting her blossom on her own. It could be nostalgia, but she always seems to make the scenes she’s in much more entertaining.

She’s also an old school queen with a sharp tongue which is so refreshing after these past few seasons of queens acting like politicians to avoid any online backlash.

I hope she lasts a while.

R265, Fucking Tootie Carparts (Saleisha)!

266 I would love to see Yara on an an All Stars season. Can't see her winning, but she would be interesting.

She was already on All Stars 1 R268

All Stars 1 doesn’t really count.

R269 I try not to remember All Stars 1.

What do you mean, TRY not to remember?

I don’t mind queens from AS coming back IF they’re likable.

Tammie Brown for AS6!

I love Alexis. Does he have a boyfriend?

I’m listening to recaps of the earlier seasons on Alaska and Willam’s Race Chaser podcast and I only just learned that Alexis totally made up the story about having closet-case military boyfriend in season 3. It do take nerve... That episode is so good for her too, it was the birth of “I want you to come home, papi!” and “Sickening, no?”

I'm a bottom and I'm not usually attracted to drag performers, but there is something about Blair St. Clair that brings out what little top energy that I have.

Or you're just a pedo R276

Blair looks unhealthy. bulimia, anorexia or drugs?

R278

Yes.

Usually bulimics look healthy and tend to work out. So the other two options. Gigi Goode and Naomi Smalls has a similar build. I know Ru purposely stays thin so he looks better in drag.

Bulimics have lollipop head, swollen cheeks, and burst blood vessels in their forehead. They don’t look healthy. They look worse than anorexics.

Gigi and Naomi were both very young when on Drag Race, and I was as thin as they were at the same age. I was verging on an eating disorder—I counted caloric intake and I counted calories worked off in the gym—but I think it was just barely healthier than it was unhealthy. Teens and people in their early 20s can have very, very slight frames and be perfectly healthy.

As we age, though, we broaden and it’s really easy to tell when someone is starving themselves.

Fuck you R277.

I do like GiGi but she (or her mother) needs to pay better attention to her SM accounts. She only repeats/retweets what is "fashionable" for want of a better word, with no originality, and she doesn't engage with fans. Heidi on the other hand....well, what a fucking sweetheart. I love how she has "Closet Cases" like CoCo Peru has "Coco Puffs"

I randomly watch Nicky Doll on IG Live doing makeup with Rock, and I have to say, they're really entertaining. Nicky has a great sense of humor, and Rock isn't as attention seeking or emotionally needy.

Hopefully Rock got a major wake-up call watching himself on camera. And he seems like the type of attention seeking narcissist who read every single thing that was written about him online. Of course, the mentally disturbed sycophants on Reddit lapped up every indulgent moment of it, but there were a lot of people (particularly on here) who mercilessly mocked him for it. And most people only respond and grow from the negative reactions they receive.

Shea's verse in the song was alright, but there was no way she wasn't winning with that outfit. Probably the best I've ever seen on RPDR.

R287, let’s not go nuts.

Shea Coulee's bejeweled nude body suit runway is being lauded as the best in drag race history. Sorry, but I really don't see how. It was freakish looking (and not in a good way) she looked very manly and the boob contouring was peculiar. Also there was something off with the golden neck rings.

R289 The air brushing on the breast and stomach area was a lil' weird. It's like she found a old costume from a production of Cats in a dumpster and tried to repurpose it to look like a woman's body.

However, I get how it won in comparison to the other outfits on the runway. I liked Blair's runway the most, actually, but it seems like she misunderstood the assignment.

Blair St. Clair looks like a 13 year old boy and a 37 year old lesbian at the same time

R290, disagree. Blair, a girly plastic girl, so choosing pink as her skin makes sense to me.

I still liked Shea’s better. I wouldn’t say it’s high fashion or the best, but I do think for this challenge, she nailed it.

I think if Blair did a milkier shade of pink, it would have worked, as everyone else was a "nude" color.

Shea's bodysuit and BODY were one of the top 25 runways looks in Rupaul history! She wasn't going for pretty. I love a gorgeous gown on someone like Trinity or Mariah or Detox. Did Gigi or Blair or Aquaria ever give us a beautiful gown? ( Violet did) That's not Shea's strong suit and it wasn't the challenge either. The challenge was SKIN. Shea looked naked under the runway lights. It was a great illusion. Blair wore a bubble gum Shiny PINK raincoat. Bitch is skinny and pretty for sure. But dumb as she is tone deaf.

I wish I could like Shea. He just comes off as fake to me.

I was hoping for the girls to “pull a Naomi Smalls” during their vote to shake up this season which is pretty dull so far.

Cracker vs. Alexis is boring.

These supposed all stars are disappointing following the recent regular season. They really should have taken a break because there were more all stars on season 12 than there are in all stars.

Jujubee is miles ahead of the rest for me, Shea is impressive, and I remember Cracker and Alexis fondly. I really have little recognition of the others, even now. Blair surprises me every week by not whining but then I have to remind myself no, she isn’t the same person as Farrah Moan. Lots of generic, unmemorable people this season.

R297, she used to complain like Farrah though...

She’s def overcompensating this time around but it also doesn’t seem fake to me. Since her season, she’s developed her own niche amongst the fanbase that kind of speaks of how much she’s willing to sweat and how marketable she is. I see her making a name for herself this time but that still won’t be enough to beat Shea or Juju.

Farrah had no such redeeming factors.

Blah. Still thoroughly unimpressed with this season.

You could feel the air leave the room (in a bad way) when they unveiled Monet as the assassin this week.

They need to let this show breathe for a bit, or give it an overhaul.

R299, true.

But it also sounds like you figured that out a while ago, yet you still stuck around?

Unfortunately I am not finding this season super compelling. Pity.

I’ve had enough of Miz Cracker. I’m going to start skipping her scenes. She’s miserable and not funny.

How in the hell are India and Mayhem both still around? Good Christ.....

Shea being a big Golden Girls fan and basing her team's challenge on Blanche's bedroom made me love her that much more, even if the team wasn't able to deliver.

Mayhem is all talk. Dull.

She's not "right" for the Drag Race competition, but Mariah has become one of my favorite Drag Race queens over the years.

Am I missing something about Cracker? I don't understand the dislike from some of the others.

Right now my top 3 are Blair, Jujubee and I guess Shea.

It’s one of the few shows my boyfriend and I sit and watch together, R299. But it’s become a chore.

Tequila helps.

Oops, meant r300. Maybe less tequila.

Jujubee is one of the rare reality TV finds that should be transferred over to something way bigger. She is made to be in a sitcom, her comedic acting is legit MILES ahead of any contestant on the show, ever. I was so into her character tonight I forgot, for a split second, that I was watching RuPaul's Drag Race. Tonight's episode was... interesting. I think Cracker is almost too uncomfortable to watch. I sort of felt that in her original season. This time is really amplifying that she isn't good TV.

This week's episode and challenge was terrible. Only redeeming feature was Jujubee's confessionals and bitchy asides.

I did love the juxtaposition of everyone agonizing about who to cut, followed by Blair chastising the audience not to make fun of her agonizing over it, followed by Jujubee talking about her concern for her cats and her cat-lady status. If she doesn’t win the season, I’ll be pissed. And so it seems like a given she won’t win the season.

Did anyone else feel like that Lizzo song was not good for the lipsync? It just didn’t give any energy for them to use. I blame the song for both performances. Neither was bad, but neither was good either. And why was Monet in a figure skating outfit from the eighties? She looked awful.

Terrible challenge. The winning suite was a copy of Club 96 with the vapid whispering and trashy opulence. These challenges don't give anyone much chance to shine - I had no idea who the winner would be.

Jujubee's Mrs Claus look was cheap with a shitty wig. India served the best runway look - an actual 3 in 1 outfit, not 3 different looks stacked on top of each other. Crackers was great too.

Also the designer/decorator judge felt like a real blast from the past when the earlier seasons had people nobody had ever heard of who Ru just happened to know.

When Monet showed up, I thought Jujubee had it in the bag, so I was shocked that she didn't win. We thought she let Monet win, though I can't imagine why. And the challenge kind of sucked. I loved though, that they did all this trashy work on the rooms, and then suddenly they were all pristine and perfect. It was so obvious that they didn't do anything themselves.

The winning team was so bad! I was certain they'd be the bottom with Mayhem going home. The other two teams had some humor at least. And yeah, they did not get good energy out of that song. It's not bad, and there's energy in it, but neither of the queens found it. Monet did slightly better

I thought that too r315, to me Mayhem and Blair did the worst as a group. I found their concept boring and it didn't go anywhere, there wasn't more than they could do than "don't you feel rich?"

I have to wonder if Jujubee threw the lipsync.

I'm rooting for India even though she isn't my favorite by far and I don't think she'll make it to the finals. She does an "old school" style of drag and it's admirable that she makes her own costumes and works hard to put on a show. She also isn't part of the Drag Race "family" since most of those bitchy queens bully her or ignore her. The queens of AS5 will continue to gun for her since she's not in the clique but I hope that she lasts a few more weeks so that she can leave the show with some clout for future bookings.

Naomi Smalls was screwed over when Club 96 did not win. It is the only thing I remember from that whole season.

Mayhem/Blair were rewarded for Naomi’s work.

I agree with the person who said the song wasn't a very good song to lip sync to. I'm not sure if it's even possible for the at home audience to know who won a lip sync -- really. I think the fairest way to do lip sync is to stop the battle and each queen do an individual lip sync of the same song. I'm assuming they do the dueling thing to keep it vague.

I posted in another thread that I think (based on nothing but my own craziness) that All Stars, unlike the mothership show, is negotiated. I think the elimination order is negotiated with the producers before the season even begins. And then the judges and the producers have to critique the queens and edit the show to make it all work.

Monet's drag was rough. Has always been rough, and apparently winning All-Stars hasn't improved it. Still, she won that lip-synch (though JuJu was not trying very hard).

Another who was puzzled by Blair and Mayhem having the winning room. It was a copy of Club 96 and nothing they said was funny or clever.

India had the best runway, with Cracker a close second. Loved Blair's disco jumpsuit, but she should have been clocked for the sandal/sock combo for her Twiggy look. Mayhem looked like a beach ball in her last look.

I'm sure it has already been said (didn't have time to read every comment in this thread), but this season of All Stars seems especially low budget and low effort for some reason, almost like things have regressed back to All Stars Season 1 levels of roughness. The challenges seem messy and, even worse, boring. Was this filmed during Season 12's smoke breaks? Even the lighting seems especially unflattering and everything has a cheap feel to it. I like the cast but it seems a bit light on heavy hitters seen on previous All Stars seasons. I can't imagine anyone other than She and Juju in the finale, either.

*Shea, even, or however she spells it.

Stupid challenge.....are we really supposed to believe that those queens completely set up those rooms? Really?

I was surprised by the winner, too, I thought it was the worst.

I still like Cracker although the scared queens are trying to do everything to break her down.

India and Mayhem are such losers. And there was a moment during the credits showing someone making a lipstick elimination choice.....we didn't see the name in the hand, but Mayhem and Blair were the other two names.

Have we seen that elimination yet? I don't even remember......

Even when Jujubee is shady, she's hilarious and there is no malice. I was impressed with Blair's runway, it was really well thought out with the decades.

I liked that they touched on the drug and alcohol abuse that is rampant in the performing drag community on Untucked.

That Lizzo song SUCKED. And why is Alexis being such a cunt this season?

Agree about Lizzo, and yes, Alexis, Blair and Cracker all seem like entirely different reality TV archetypes this season than in their first ones. Is it the effect of selective editing, or did all of them decide to play different characters?

And regarding the downgraded production quality and overall crappiness of this season...maybe that’s why it was going to be hidden away on Showtime. Maybe they knew it was crap and wanted to limit the audience.

This SCRIPTED competition show is getting tired.

Alexis has always had a cunty side. To me it's Cracker who isn't coming off well this time around.

So did Shea bring with her more of that fabric from her entrance look/DragCon booth?

It was the same fabric hanging in their hotel suite, right?

[quote]Alexis, Blair and Cracker all seem like entirely different reality TV archetypes this season than in their first ones. Is it the effect of selective editing, or did all of them decide to play different characters?

I think Blair just has more life experience now. Cracker seems fine to me, but the gurl needs some time on a shrink's couch to work out some self worth issues. Alexis Mateo's issues are age and weight.

I liked during the reading challenge when Ongina (?) said to Alexis, “You just want to win because no Puerto Rican queen or big girl has ever won the crown!”

And Alexis was just like, “Yeah. That’s right.”

That Lizzo song made a bad show even worse. It's such a lifeless & tedious song with zero hooks.

I was disappointed that the volden gals didn't dial the phone with a pencil

Alexis's makeup and hair is beyond cheap and tacky this season. he's never been high fashion but he looks especially dreadful now.

I am impressed with India. I have always thought he was so ugly in drag but I stand corrected, he looks fantastic now.

Mayhem continues to disappoint. he has no snap or pizazz. his timing is off.

I like cracker, I like his personality and I liked his drag. I think he's neurotic and funny.

Mariah, several steps back visually from his original season. he was so glamorous. now he looks like Alexis got stuck in a blender with Raven.

R328 Also, it was filmed RIGHT AFTER Season 12, as most All Star seasons are, and I'm assuming at the exact same time as Celebrity Drag Race (hence Madison Beer's presence). How much do you think her parents paid WOW to get her on the show, btw?

I wish RuPaul/WOW were somehow creative enough to create a non-competitive show for the alumni. Some of them are so great, but it's tedious to see them only competing. And no, I'm not going to subscribe to some half-assed bullshit on WOW Presents, Ru!!

All Stars 5 was filmed before Season 12 r337, they released Season 12 first.

Ooh was it? They seem to film very quickly, regardless.

Did you forget a out Drag U, r337?

That really was a rough spot

Drag U had its moments, like the lady who didn't know what a mangina was.

Don't fake cry all the time - this shit is way too scripted. Even Jujubee is fake as fuck. Yes she was a drug addict and she looks 20 years older than 8 years ago. Bad show.

Blair St Clair has her own line of wigs and they are unclockable. I've never seen such flawlessly natural hairlines. Beyonce doesn't look as good. Take a look at untucked and the backstage workroom footage when the ladytestants are pleading to stay. How is Blair's long blond hair with a completely natural hairline possible? No lace. The show is SO BAD that this is all that interests me.

This goes down as one of the worst episodes ever. Everything. India Ferrah has improved her makeup and teefs, but that houndstooth travelling suit was for off, off broadway. Cracker had a cool three way reveal costume. It's too bad he's 4 feet tall and 160 lbs. Should have won the challenge though.

Shea and Juju. What a contest!? FAKE.

Ru said that Drag U was his favorite. I hope he was joking, but that might explain a few things. It did have its moments like r342 says, but very few and far between.

RuPaul doesn't own the concept of drag (thank god). This show needs some competition. Jerk drag away from kids and their Frau mothers. Bring it back to the dirtier, WITTIER and creative side. Woke culture has become the most humorless, miserable lesbian in the room. I want to laugh again.

I love that Gigi can do a deadpan - but funny - take on a GOOP product and get blasted, but a straight laced boring gold Trump room without laughs wins? Ok then

And how basic do you have to be to be like “oh a golden girls room!” Jfc at least make references and not outright mimicry. They deserved their bottom status. Should have been all 3 of them.

And LARGE AND IN CHARGE CUNTLEXIS IS EVERYTHING She’s bringing it to us old school. And the fact is she isn’t even a hateful cunt with personal attacks. She just doesn’t stand for bullshit. So refreshing.

Naturally I’m sure reddit hates her. I’ll still always love you Alexis and have since the beginning!!!!

And all these bitches are retarded for not voting Shea out. Yeah you’ll beat her Blair St. Clair 🙄

I'm living for Cuntlexis. Someone needs to liven up this woke-fest. It sure as hell isn't going to be Meh-hem Filler.

Cuntlexis is amazing.

I wish the word "woke" could be banned on Datalounge. Only the trolls use it now.

Give Dragula a try, R344. The Boulet Brothers are amazing.

R340 Drag U was cancelled 8 years ago. I mean something CURRENT.

I want to love Dragula, but they need a better editor. The seasons do get incrementally better though. A friend of mine was a guest judge and they don't get to see the performances live- they show the edited recorded performances and she was massively disappointed with that.

r343, it's still a lacefront wig with hair laid over the hairline. I've worked with music celeb hairstylists, and they don't have the concept of cutting the lace back at all, or having the lace match the skin. On, "A Star is Born", LG brought her own hair guy against BC's wishes, and despite the advice of the Department Head hair, he did his own thing. BC showed LG the dailies and pointed out the obvious lace front not cut back or blended and said, "This is why I suggested to use my person, who is used to working in hi-def", and she replied, "Oh, I understand now". They had to digitally erase the hairline for the whole movie.

Dragula was great until they let the ginormous Genderspecial on last season. I didn't mind Landon, I am talking about the fat Oberlin frau, who sounded like a DL parody.

I loved Alexis for reading the Heathers to filth on a weekly basis during her first season. She didn't put up with shit from those dirty smelly cunts but so far AS5 she just being mean to Cracker.

r353, I HATED HER. But she just showed how cool Landon was.

This show needs to die

Derrick and Cracker are the best looking out of drag

R357 seriously?? Cracker looks like a gnome with autism.

If Derrick was interesting or smart or funny, his Britney stuff could be very entertaining. But just being a man who sorta resembles how Britney looked 15 years ago is pretty boring. He seems like a nice enough guy, though.

Alexis is not being “mean” to Cracker (and I like Cracker). She’s just KEEPING IT REAL. There’s a reason she and Shangela were BFFs on Untucked.

- Was Cracker just throwing out bullshit on Ongina and then being like “oops didn’t mean to”? ✅

- Did Cracker say who she “respects” and leave out Alexis from that list? ✅

Alexis is a pageant queen. She doesn’t suffer fools and never has. “Don’t sweetheart me, I’m not sweethearting you.”

That’s not mean. That’s just being a long version of “give me a fucking break bitch”.

R360 = Alexis at home, gaining her second Covid-19.

Act da fool gurl

I don't think that Shea's butterfly look was all that. I get why people like it and I get why it impresses people, but it just didn't do anything for me. It rubbed me the wrong way and I can't put my finger on why.

I love Alexis and she should have won episode 1 and been high in episode 2. I hate this new format because now only one queen wins an episode when in other AS seasons, two win an episode.

However, she does not look good fat.

[quote]Did Cracker say who she “respects” and leave out Alexis from that list?

At least from my view, that's not the way it went down. Alexis jumped to a conclusion and butted into a conversation that didn't involve her.

re: Shea's main stage look. The major problem is looks with a gimmick are either very impressive when they work well or else they look cheap and costumey. The highpoint of the former was Courtney Act's angel with those huge wings which spread out during her reveal. Even Cracker's reveals on the recent show, starting with the egg, was praiseworthy because it was ingenious, well-planned and well crafted. I got that Shea was going for a butterfly motif but it didn't have the same "fluidity".

Butt the fuck out of THIS conversation, cunt!!!

Shea's face looked hideous and was the stuff nightmares are made of.....in the runway.....and in her confessions....

I don't understand the fillers and injections R368. They're young, they should have to blow their lips up and freeze their faces. WTF.

Uh, Shea looks normal compared to the surgical nightmares of Trinity and Detox.

And Chad Michaels.

R365 for the win. Alexis just jumped in because whythefucknot?

Cracker is tedious but still makes it to finals. You know. I can't stand him. He's not entertaining. He's processed, mean and doesn't come from a place of fun.

I completely disagree with you, R373, and think your description better fits Alexis. Who do YOU actually enjoy?

Apparently they've been lighting up Alexis on social media.

None of the queens have the full range of charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent, + current marketability. Of all of them, Jujubee has the first four but isn't current in the way that even Chad was at the time of her win. It may seem funny now, but Chad stayed connected to more contemporary music.

I do hope Jujubee wins, though. He has a persona, intelligence, humor, great wit, silliness, fine looks and a place in drag.

Shea has no persona. She's good, has grown, but is just another typical drag performer. There's nothing more there. In her own way she's clueless because she doesn't see that what she lacks is a stand, a stance, a personality that is about anything but WINNING in an old-school drag way. She's Trinity minus the pageant sense.

Cracker has a persona but it's a rotten one. No spontaneity. She's over-thought-through, mean in a way that doesn't connect, and so self-referential it comes across as selfishness.

Did the others who are gone have more to show? Maybe not for what the show wants, although I prefer all of them - even Derrick - over Mayhem (another "stands for nothing and delivers only drag," which isn't what the show is built on) and Blair (who has NOTHING but a great look and is a creep underneath it). But you can bet that Alexis, India and Mayhem are targeted before the others still left. They're all fun for a retro-drag do but it's like watching the past.

Shea is OWED (people think), they can't deny Jujubee's talent, and Cracker is the dry surface they can smear things on. No way they're not the final three, and if Ru wants to maintain her independent flair, she'd pick Juju but probably will pick Shea.

r360, Sure.....

Shea's butterfly look was frightening. The face paint, the big black eye contacts and the twitching she took it too literal it became scary.

r378, she was trying to do a pop version of IssheHungry's look, but it failed:

That's quite a queen @R378! I am not much into the "look" queens, but that's art.

She is a true artist, r380:

Jujubee was a fake mess talking about how her "inner saboteur" led her do so many drugs and drink and shit. Well, it's catchy. Blair was more honest. "I work in bars for a living. I was partying too much. I want a long successful career. I had to stop the self destruction." Juju's trying to win honey. She's quick and charming and a great performer on stage - no one gets booked for more weddings. conventions and corporate gigs than Jujubee. He's taken an interesting path - not wanting to travel far from Boston for too long. He was part of a pretty happy couple for a long time. Seemingly. But I don't think Juju is contracted to win. Same as Bendela. Jujubee is not going to travel the world being a Ru Girl. His long term relationship ended, he got sober and lost a bit of his fun. He WAS pretty into drugs. I still like him a lot and he was amazing the couple times we hired him - but he looks older than his age now and his use of RuPlatitudes are a bit disappointing. Still the same guy - funny, fast, smart. Charming performer. But they're all so look so old this time around. Except for Miss Blair and her out of this world WIGS.

Alexis is a cool dude but a COW on stage. India Ferrah. And Ru wanted to change HeidiNCloset's name?

Miz Cracker NEEDS to win. But she can't. He's nuts. I saw him on the late show in a film called Freaks.

Shea is great at being Shea. Fantastic dancer, nice new teeth, a bit of a glow up and a sexy ass man. One of only a few queens to win 4 challenges in his season. Yet he's so easy to forget.

I want Manila Luzon to win. That's a Drag Race Superstar.

LOVE Manila, that needs to happen someday. I didn't know JuJu broke up. They had been together quite a long time. Hey, throw out some of Ru's platitudes if it might help you win. She seems to enjoy a little bit of sucking up. Also, I think JuJu does it with a wink, she's been around long enough to know how to play all of the sides while maintaining her "JuJuness". I agree I can't see her wanting to be trapped in a WoW contract. But maybe now that she's older, the security of *some* form of income and facetime isn't half bad to her.

Trixie and Katya aside (and I think Trixie got out of said contract, Katya not being a winner or placer would not have been been obliged to it) who else is really raking it in on those WoW shows? Most of them are dull as fuck. They have a Netflix gig too, though only on the Netflix YouTube channel. Better than a kick in the head, I'm sure.

OT, but speaking of Netflix, I rather liked Dancing Queens, and watching Alyssa Edwards out in the wild, and I hate watching kids usually. Either they didn't renew it or by the time they did Cuntvid showed up and it was too late to film. Sidenote: I know...inner beauty is what matters (eyeroll), blah, blah, but why doesn't that bitch get just a very subtle chin impant? It would really do wonders. I know outer beauty fades, blah, blah, but still, GET ONE.

Manila is a look queen and nothing more. She's very good at it but she's repeating looks from Drag history. Not necessarily RPDR history.

R383 I think Alyssa DID have some sort of chin implant, but could it just be the makeup?

r385, it's hard to say, because I've never noticed the chin until he was out of makeup. Then it was really apparent. Here's the most recent IG photo of him sans fard:

This was last September, and the chinlessness is apparent:

I watched Dancing Queen last month on Netflix. I liked Alyssa before seeing the series, but I absolutely love her now. Such an interesting personality, and she works hard. I couldn't balance two careers at once, no way.

what did you think about the "date" episode, R388?

Disappointing most recent episode but still enjoying the season overall. I want Jujubee to win, but I think it's anyone's game - apart from India or Mayhem, can't see them winning or top 3 even.

I'm assuming they are going to do some sort of eliminated queens returning soon, since they only started with 10 in total which would make for a really short season (assuming a final 3 or 4 which would mean 7-8 episodes).

More of the delicious Bruno pit crew member please, he's so fucking hot I could watch him all day.

[quote]Was this filmed during Season 12's smoke breaks?

Hilarious but sadly apt. There's no zing to this season, and there's a real feeling of going through the motions with this laborious attempt to create a storyline around Cracker.

I don't understand why they push these things out so quickly. They over-saturate the market and then dilute the brand. All Stars should be something special and something that happens rarely. And to be quite frank, I'm not sure they should have Drag Race every season until they have 12 amazing queens to compete. Sometimes I think the quality suffers when they rush the show into production. The last season was the best the show has been in awhile.

I agree, R392. And after All Stars there is Drag race Canada. I agree, it is better when they are not churning them out, regular drag race included. It's all about money at this point.

Of course they shouldn't do an All Stars season every year, it's utterly absurd.

But money is all that matters, so they will do it anyway.

When will they do Drag Race Juniors with kids in grade school?

Shut your whore mouth, r395.

After All Stars Two - which was a correction to the flaws in the original All Stars AND a first class competition - they didn't need to have another All Stars Season for 5 years. This pitiful All Stars 5 wouldn't even pass grade for a weak season of regular Drag Race. Not in the challenges, the runway or the performances. Not to mention the tired old showgirls. People do notice. VH1 don't care. And RuPaul - he's fracking fat.

Another thing that is stupid is how they portray Drag Race as being the "Olympics of Drag" yet half of the queens that have come on the show have been at a substandard level.

Agree r398. They should camp it up and make fun of it, maybe then it wouldn't be so fucking uptight and dull. We might even have some *gasp* fun. "Here before you are the biggest losers in Drag Race Herstory". Select among the lowest scoring queens, being sure to snag the ones that at least showed some humor. They had to get through the audition process with *some* talent (eh, maybe not).

Just to make it easy, and to see if this works, the first iteration could be the very first (or second) queens chopped. Take as MUCH of this out of Ru's hands as possible. New judges, mix up the challenges, etc. I'd actually like to take Ru out of it completely. The ones who sashay away early aren't beholden to her or WoW. Put it on HBO so they can swear and show skin. They'd need some kind of "name" to attach to this I guess, so maybe Bianca could be the main host, and a rotating panel of drag queens that aren't in Ru's circle (so get zero attention) could be the judges.

R396 I can host!!

R398 When I re-watch the previous seasons, I feel a lot of pity for the first 5 boots (MARY!). None of those early outs ever had a chance of winning, but obviously they themselves don't think they're filler queens... when that's what they were cast to be. Like, did anyone really ever believe that someone like Monica Beverly Hillz could make it past the first 5 episodes? Forget about the final 4, or even WINNING.

The first one has my pity. First five? No. I mean you can have ONE bad day, and Murphy's Law...it just happens to be on elimination day. That's why I like it when they keep all of them until the second episode. One shitty performace could be due to many factors, not just talent, but two in a row? Don't waste my time. By round 4 or 5 I would actually like to see more double eliminations, because shit is only going to get worse from there.

R402 True. I feel like the competition doesn't get going until the mid-point in the season, anyway. I just mean pity for the contestants because they probably thought they could win, but were just cast as filler.

I've been re-watching season 5 lately and I was so relieved at the Honey Mahogany/Vivienne Pinay double elimination. I totally forgot about it (because they're such forgettable contestants). That was so welcome

I get what you are saying r403. Glad I might not be the only one who "enjoys" a good double elimination.

Oh god that sounds like I'm talking about crapping.

Maybe it’s the editing but the campaign against Cracker this episode felt very OTT. They all kept whispering about Cracker’s lack of apology, despite the fact that Cracker DID go out of her way to offer a sincere apology directly to Ongina the previous episode.

I condole Cracker ...

Cracker seems tiresome. And fat.

R407 is Alexis, looking in a mirror

I love both Alexis and Cracker. And India. Y'all are tedious.

R409 thanks for that fascinating hot take. Riveting.

R384 Manila is way more than a look queen. She's campy, funny, and her lip syncs are great, without the need for acrobatics. She's more of an all-rounder.

R411 Please welcome to the stage Anall Rounder

Gia Gunn: smarter and kinder than ever!! Are all successfully transitioned wo-men Trump supporters?

R413 bless her heart. She’s never been the sharpest knife in the drawer.

My oats. Give me my oats.

They’re just now getting around to making fun of TMZ. Next year they’ll make fun of Blackberries and Britney’s meltdown.

[Quote] Manila is way more than a look queen.

I've yet to see it and I've been watching since day 1.

[Quote] She's campy

YES her LOOKS are. She's very good at that.

[Quote] funny,

Funny? Really? Is she really that funny?

[Quote] and her lip syncs

She's good. Sometimes she's over-baked but in general she's good.

Manila is one of the all time greats. She's the best of the best. Doesn't matter what teen girls and ugly old fags think. They curiously have the same taste for oddball ugly queens who are "funny" or young skinny white boys. It's been established. Manila Luzon is one of the top 5 Drag Race contestants of all time. She's a Superstar.

Why is Miz Cracker's body so stumpy? Seriously. It's been bothering me since season 10. Why is she so malformed???

R419 Dwarf

R419 But Cracker is too tall to be a dwarf!!!

Gott im Himmel. Diese idiotischen Hündinnen, die über idiotische Hündinnen streiten.

Habe Spaß. Es ist eine Unterhaltung!

I think Morgan McMichaels looks a bit dwarfish out of makeup, at least in the face. My aunt is a dwarf, though in high heels she could *almost* pass. She doesn't have the severe foreshortening of her limbs like many dwarfs do (there are so many forms of dwarfism though). Just a little bit in her forearms. Sorry, talk about OT....

Cracker looks like she has a terminal case of pear shape.

You know things are bad when the season peaked at episode 1. They should've kept Derrick. This was honestly one of the most forgettable episodes of the whole franchise.

r424 = Derrick. No one misses that one note cunt

Ugh, the machinations in these last few episodes. Blatantly putting people in the top or bottom solely for the “drama” with no regard at all whatsoever for how they performed. It’s just insulting to the viewer now. I’ve watched every episode since this first one and this is the point where I’m starting to think if I missed an episode I don’t really care.

My top three: Blair (cause runways) Jujubee (cause good Juju) Alexis (cause naturally funny and charming)

Sorry, Shea stans: she's boring.

T is Cracker got a restart of her lipsync with Morgan due to her being low energy the first time around. That she got this and Alyssa didn't makes me think that the competitions being rigged to put Shea and Cracker in the top 3.

My new top three would be Blair, Jujubee, and Cracker

But now I think we know why they originally wanted to put this season on Showtime, to make it harder for people to see it.

There is zero chance that Shea won't make the Top 3 if not win. The producers are doing everything they can to quiet the protests that the show only awards white queens.

Jujubee is queen of color.

Did you not see who just won Season 12, R430?

I don't understand these stupid challenges......it's not possible for them to rehearse and tape these in one day.....the situations are so contrived it seems impossible to make anything out of them.

It's so hard to look at Shea's face.....and as posted above....this is the first time I've noticed what a weird body shape Cracker has....

I wish it was over......not sure that I will watch any more of this season....we shall see what else is on next Friday night.

[quote]it's not possible for them to rehearse and tape these in one day

Please. We'd come up with, rehearse and put a new show number on within twelve hours at the drag bar I worked at. At least once a weekend.

Of the 12 main seasons, only 5 of the winners have been white. They still haven't had a big girl win though.

Cracker looks like she was assembled from spare parts.

Nobody cares about fat people. The fans care about black people and trans people.

Why do most of these queens looks so busted? When you put them up against some of the others, who could pass for woman when walking down the street in drag, half of these look like they wear stockings made of burlap. I really thought drag had evolved, but some of these "all stars" have set it back 100 years.

Can someone PLEASE explain the appeal of Miz Cracker? I am about to become the Anti-Miz Cracker troll at this rate.

She scores so well... yet... she's not funny? What the fuck?!?!

I think you're right, R328. It's obvious why they wanted to dump this on Showtime now.

Cracker gained 35 pounds and it all went to her ass and thighs. She's tiny (5'5"!) so it made her disproportionate looking.

r438, it's not about "passing". Although Blair can.

But is it about lookjng like you cant even afford a nice pair of L'eggs?

I think the heavy-looking opaque hosiery helps hide the padding underneath. Unfortunately, the lighting can make it look like Thelma Harper support hose.

Cracker has no idea how to dress for her proportions. At this point, aside from the totally arbitrary placements, is waiting to see who the lip-synch assassin is going to be.

The other problem with Cracker is his really thick neck. He rarely wears a wig that hides it. I thought the wig he wore for the lipsync actually made him look better than he usually does, only to find out in Untucked that it was Blair's.

Cracker is a fucking ugly unfunny troll doll.

If you constantly have to tell people how funny you are, you're not a good comedy queen.

[quote]Can someone PLEASE explain the appeal of Miz Cracker? I am about to become the Anti-Miz Cracker troll at this rate.

Hating Cracker became a fad on the RPDR subreddit during S10. For a while there you barely saw her name uttered without "white mediocrity" attached.

Cracker is fine.

[quote]Who keeps telling these producers that Drag Race needs more musical numbers?

People who saw the "comedy" skits.

I wonder why they don't bring back photography challenges. What is Mike Ruiz up to these days?

I wonder if Cracker sticking around is because Bob carries a lot of weight in the drag community, especially right now? But I fortot this was filmed quite a while a go so...nevermind

Cracker's malformation was obvious even when she was thin. I never understood the comparison to Aquaria, who has long legs and a normal body and a neck and is 15 years younger?

I remember Miz Cracker in her original season spoke of her unusual, "artistic" mother and how they lived with nothing - including food for periods of time. I'm not being mean to say I believe her growth is stunted. I really think she is a case of ricketey boo boo with a not bad ass. He looks great in tight jeans.

Cracker has incredible wigs - DRAG QUEEN WIGS. They're big, they're worked on and they're perfect. She knows how to make herself look like a show pony. But with the extra weight - she gets too close to a miniature horse. I liked her plaid outfit - showed off her tiny waist and the big puffy peplum distracted from her big ass. But nothing can correct the body proportions. I'm sure she is well aware of them. I put Miz Cracker in the realm of 'sad' drag queens. She's not funny, it's a type of desperation. Poor kid. Lots of guys who are 5'5 are cute and sexy as hell. Cracker looks like a circus performer or a ride on the merry-go-round.

This season is terrible. So far the worst ever. I think Shea Coulee looks hot. But only as a guy. He hasn't had T H A T much work done. Blair's lips are bigger. Don't be surprise when Blair transitions. He never looks like a guy. He made a cute Bieber though. Case closed.

Oh, how I was hoping for a double elimination this week. Dammit, Miz Cracker!

Cracker's platinum blonde ponytail wig she wore down the runway was just so unflattering it reminded me of the wig she wore in her entrance look for S10. This shade of blonde doesn't work for her it only seems to highlight her abnormalities and also makes her look more like a man.

I noticed Indiah and Blaire had similar make-up styles and wigs; Blaire looked flawless, Indiah was severe but it's definitely an improvement from her makeup in the last few runways. Both had the best runways of the week.

Mayhem's GI Joe/Barbie could have done with a prop, maybe a fake rifle gun and dog tags? I think that would've completed it and really sold the look. Cracker was looking pretty basic as well. Nobody bothered to use any themed props?

I thought I was the only one that thought Cracker looked "odd". At first I thought it was the weight gain, but it's the way he's put together. I guess you can't fight genetics. And why did Shea and Blair do that to their lips?

r454, I would have have Mayhem's outfit bedazzled or sequined, and added the same material to a bomber jacket that could be removed. Maybe added some metallic fringed epaulets underneath.

I watched Bob the Drag Queen's recap, and he talked about props- wasting valuable space for a giant prop like that sometimes isn't feasible for queens with less money.

I think a lot of Queens get lip fillers so they don't have to overdraw their lips all the time and disturb their lipstick when drinking or eating.

Hayley Dunphy lookin’ a mess. Those poor kids.

Another terrible unfunny challenge. Alexis shoving food in her bra was the only chuckle, along with India dropping a vase from her puss. Reminded me of Minnie Driver dropping Karen Walker’s jewels on Will and Grace.

The boy bits was worth like a 1 second side gag chuckle but seeing these nelly bitches in snap backs going “OHHHH YO DAWGGGG” 5,000,000 times was the real loser of the week.

Say what you will about Mayhem, but he has a great smile and warm energy.

Cracker winning a tie with Morgan 🙄

Again, Juju and Alexis are the only fun parts of this show. BIG HONGRY CUNTLEXIS is a new facet I didn’t know I needed. It just shows the talents of the old queens who didn’t grow up on RPDR are miles above these new bitches.

Shea is a fucking bore and I don’t care who knows it. Inauthentic and robotic. India is more interesting.

Alexis remains annoying. She is ugly, fat, and her fashions are laughable. Remember when she tragically tried to make "Bam!" happen on S3? It was already Emeril's played out thing at that point. Also, how has her accent gotten even stronger?

What accent?

[quote]Cracker winning a tie with Morgan 🙄

I loved it when Morgan skipped over Cracker like she was a jump rope.

*****

Mayhem just showed how uncompromising she can be. You don't get an attitude with the people who are putting you on a stage. I know some club owners. They're put up with shit from a queen one time. It won't happen again. They'll tell their peers, too.

[quote]Dragula was great until they let the ginormous Genderspecial on last season. I didn't mind Landon, I am talking about the fat Oberlin frau, who sounded like a DL parody.

Please welcome to the stage: GINORMOUS GENDERSPECIAL

[quote] Cracker looks like a circus performer or a ride on the merry-go-round.

This is the cuntiness I come here for!

I'm really enjoying India Ferrah this season - she's an old school queen, and her runways are great. I get it's a reality show but why the fuck does a drag queen need to know how to make a fucking hotel room? Put in more sewing challenges, bring back stuff like designing a pride float and the Death Becomes Her challenge, and a spoken word lipsync

Spot on R457.

I'm updating my top three to: India

Jujubee

Alexis Mateyo

India is the Roxxy Andrews of this All Stars season; a mediocre performer who would have been gone if Ru was selecting the eliminated queens, but is kept around because the other queens know she increases their odds of winning if they keep her to the end.

You could tell Ru was annoyed when Mariah, a favorite of hers, was eliminated and India remained.

India has shown far more charisma, uniqueness, old school charm and has been far more entertaining than the supposed frontrunners Mizz Cracker and Shea.

If you think Ru still cares about who gets eliminated (or crowned) you are very naive.

So far the Lip Sync Assassins = Any queen who answered her cell first and more importantly lives in LA.

My top 3 still is Cracker, Shea & Juju.

Are you a producer, R470?

No. Are you r471?

R469 = Venus D'Lite

[quote] the protests that the show only awards white queens.

I truly don’t understand this argument.

Season 1= Bebe Zahara Benet

Season 2= Tyra Sanchez

Season 3= Raja

Season 6= Bianca Del Rio

Season 8= Bob the Drag Queen

Season 11= Yvie Oddly

Season 12= Jada Essence Hall

Over half the winners have been POC.

India isn't one of the "cool girls" so I'm rooting for her. I'm glad that she has a win under her belt and has remained on the show for this long. Since all of the other girls can't wait to get rid of her, I'm sure she'll sashay away soon. But hopefully she's gotten some new fans out of this experience.

The fact that India designs and makes all of those costumes is barely acknowledged on the show. If Shea or one of the other Cool Girls made all of her own costumes, we would hear about it constantly.

India isn't one of the "cool girls" so I'm rooting for her. I'm glad that she has a win under her belt and has remained on the show for this long. Since all of the other girls can't wait to get rid of her, I'm sure she'll sashay away soon. But hopefully she's gotten some new fans out of this experience.

The fact that India designs and makes all of those costumes is barely acknowledged on the show. If Shea or one of the other Cool Girls made all of her own costumes, we would hear about it constantly.

R474 that really started after Trixie won AS3, because all the "Hall of Famers" were "white". By the end of AS5 the Hall of Fame will have 6 people, that's half the amount of queens who have been crowned by the regular show. It's all so stupid.

[Quote] Since all of the other girls can't wait to get rid of her

Really? Why do you say that?

[quote]I truly don’t understand this argument.

I'm not sure that I do either. Other than this thread, I really don't follow the fandom but I get the impression (from these threads) that the white queens are more popular and make more money and get more bookings compared to the queens of color and that the fandom is split between two sides. One side is really woke and the other side is really racist. Maybe having more minority queens win the crown helps them make more money or something. I don't know.

The fandom collectively think if you don't like a black queen, you're a racist. It doesn't matter if it's someone with a constant sourpuss on her face (Shea) or someone who is universally likable (Mayhem).

R464 - there are probably no design challenges because all these bitches are going to roll in with expensive, “All Stars”-level shit. Idk what the Gigi Goode haters are going to complain about when she re-emerges to win someday.

So instead they do performance challenges and really there are only so many ideas in the world. Hence, these low budget, godawful affairs.

India seems to be the most hated queen of the season and they really want her gone. Not sure why that is nothing much has happened with her since episode one.

[Quote] India seems to be the most hated queen of the season and they really want her gone.

Why do they hate her?

All Stars should only be every 3 or 4 seasons, and a queen from the 2 prior seasons shouldn't be on it.

Who is even left who would be entertaining on All Stars? Willam would never be asked to do it. Nina West, Ivy Winters, Max (does he still do drag?), and Kim Chi are the only ones I can think of that I would like to see again.

Maybe Pearl, since she's let her humor shine through with her Roxanne and other sundry characters.

Ru likely wouldn't have Pearl back. Peppermint could be fun - she delivers great lip-syncs, but is now trans so WOW maybe doesn't want to touch the controversy.

I know many won't agree but I adore Mrs Kasha Davis and her old almost pre-Stonewall camp

Kasha Davis was Top 3 material in S7. Enjoyed her way more than Minj. She also gave a great, very candid interview about her alcohol problem.

Love her.

There's dozens of queens who could be on future All Stars seasons.

[quote]but is now trans so WOW maybe doesn't want to touch the controversy

Peppermint was out as trans during her original (boring) run

R488 There's room for everybody, let's just say that

There are plenty who COULD be on All Stars numbers wise, but how many would make good tv and in the right combination? Sure you could get Madame LaQueer and Jade Jolie but who wants to watch that?

Letting Derrick go early was a mistake - he's good TV

[quote]The fact that India designs and makes all of those costumes is barely acknowledged on the show. If Shea or one of the other Cool Girls made all of her own costumes, we would hear about it constantly.

Jaida Essence Hall made every outfit and gown that she wore on Season 12. She is the only winner who matters of the last 5 years. Perfection contestant. She slayed and bodied every aspect of what RPDR set out to be.

India is doing well. She's on par with Morgan McMichaels. Busted up but popular and can still dance a bit. These theme outfits look like something BOB would pay money for someone to make for her. Horses and Hounds. India's tastes is terrible. He's basic and very dumb. Like Ginger, Morgan and Mayhem, he's popular in the local bars. But an All Star? Nah.

It's the worst season of Drag Race ever. No debate.

Hi Jaida!

Jaida was ok but hardly revolutionary. Not even evolutionary. She's polished, charismatic and sometimes fun (the look over there meme doesn't count, that wasn't funny); but she brings nothing new to the game.

And what, Gigi and her mommy's costumes did R494? Please.

YAY!!!! We can argue about Gigi's mom making her costumes again!!!!!!!

I won't add anything because this thread is about AS5.

Where's the DL Hall Monitor to tell everyone to post in the All Seasons thread?!?!

The thread is about anything we want it to be. Sit down and shut up R497.

R499 has stated her boundaries! I want the thread to be about what the title fucking says it is.

Take a seat R500.

R501 is that best you can do? Tell people to sit? I vote for you to die in a grease fire for the crime of being dull.

I vote to evict 501

[quote]R474 that really started after Trixie won AS3, because all the "Hall of Famers" were "white".

Ru did the best she could after the queens who should’ve won AS 3 and 4 were eliminated. Everyone knows that Shangela and Manila were robbed.

Nah, Trixie's victory was decided long before the show. Her ties with WOW are huge.

I don't think so r505. Trixie's "huge" ties with WOW are only because of Uhnhhh (however you spell it). It could be argued that Katya's ties are just as "huge". Saying you are "huge" with WOW is saying like you are huge in Liechtenstein.

Trixie can make me laugh - especially on The Hater's roasts, but I don't know a single person who likes her as a Drag Queen. Something very needy and calculating and not much fun about her. And she looks like THAT.

Of course it was decided in advance R506. Kennedy even called her out and read her for “her little show.”

It was decided in advance, like Chad as an honorary title since Sharon usurped it in S4, and Alaska was a ringer and also probably predetermined (and why S5 was so overrepresented in AS2).

Why would the producers feel like they owed it to some queen to make her win the show?

I enjoy Trixie a lot, I think she's very funny paired with Katya and her music is 10x better than the majority of drag queen music. Of course, she in no way deserved to win AS3, but once Ben self-eliminated, the crown for that season was meaningless anyways so they may as well have given it to the queen with the biggest fanbase. I also personally find Shangela insufferable and neither Bebe (who I love) or Kennedy were particularly great that season so it's not like there was that much competition.Ru and the show will always want to be seen as launching the Queens into stardom and Trixie is one of the best examples of that so of course they'd further tie her to the brand/Ru.

UHHHHHH

Do you *WATCH* reality TV, R509?! There are plenty of times thumbs are pressed on the scales by producers.

Returning seasons on shows, bigger names get bigger money JUST to return. You really think the producers WANT cutthroat Survivor-esque All Stars with all the front runners going home first and a finale of Milk and Chi Chi DeVayne?

They can’t 100% control the outcome but by god they sure can weight the roulette wheel to increase the odds.

A finale with Milk and Chi Chi-now that's something lol

R474 Trixie is half Native American and grew up with that side of the family> violet is half Ecuadorean.

R510 Trixie has good music? There are tons of queens with far better voices than she has granted few of them try and sing well. I liked Trixie for about ten minutes then after about a half dozen of those Uhhhh shows, her and Katya's schtick was just grating.

Jujubee is my pick. I am sure though that Shea will win.

Nah, you're overthinking it, R511.

[quote]Ru did the best she could after the queens who should’ve won AS 3 and 4 were eliminated. Everyone knows that Shangela and Manila were robbed.

Could Ru not have vetoed the twist in S3 where the "bitter jury" of eliminated queens voted Shangela out? Surely she knew they would be cunts about it.

R513 "10x better than the majority of drag queen music" still isn't a very high bar to clear. But I thought her record was good and it was something different from what every other queen does.

RuPaul has deleted all her social media....what drama awaits?

^Instagram and Twitter authenticated profiles are still up.

But hundreds of posts were deleted from Instagram and they were deleting tweets too working backwards.

Trixie is great .

I can't wait for Michelle Visage to be "cancelled" by the drag race fans. You just KNOW there's a ton of "problematic" shit she's done, just waiting to be discovered!!

Trixie Mattel is as ugly as snot. And not funny. And is irritating.

R522 But how do you really feel about her?

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of Trixie she's the Beatles to teenage girls and her grotesque make up is a license for WOW to print money.

[quote]I can't wait for Michelle Visage to be "cancelled" by the drag race fans. You just KNOW there's a ton of "problematic" shit she's done, just waiting to be discovered!!

On [italic]Celebrity Big Brother[/italic] she sucked up to far-right cunt Katie Hopkins.

The consensus on the RPDR subreddit is that Ru got hacked—Kameron Michaels's social media posts have disappeared as well.

So someone is cancelling drag queens now? Kids these days.

Choosing "best music from a drag queen" is like picking a favorite STD.

Well I have to admit that Ru's is great for working out.

I think it's easy to predict who the lip sync assassin will be - it would always be someone from either Celebrity Drag Race and S12, because they all filmed at or around the same time.

Yvie and Morgan weren't on Celebrity Drag Race

R531, good point.

[quote]Trixie is half Native American

So she gets a tribal monthly check?

As half Ojibwe, how has your Native American identity shaped you? There’s something to be said that I grew up in a Native American family and poor, and I portray a character who is full-on white, Valley Girl and rich. Native Americans have so many social issues. They’re disenfranchised. Alcoholism is huge in the community. A lot of people experience the loss of a parent. Drag for me is all about taking something negative and making it something positive. If I was allowed to have girl’s toys when I was little and nothing bad ever happened to me, I wouldn’t look like a kid’s toy now and have dark comedy. Dressing up as a different person for a living makes you fall more in love with yourself. A little vacation from who you are makes you appreciate what you are.

I don't think he grew up on the reserve

I just finished watching Canada's Drag Race. I also just canceled my WOW Presents Plus subscription.

And that's after just the first episode. It's not even worth $3.99 a month.

Trixie is probably the most successful RPDR queen. Yeah, sure she sucks.

She's fantastic! That's what talent does.

R537. I mean Jeffree Star is the most famous beauty guru. Not sure I would say he is fantastic or that talent is always what takes you to the top!

Star is doing something fantastic to make that kind of money. There's talent somewhere, r538.

Let’s not derail this thread with Jeffree fucking Star, please.

Let’s just keep shitting all over this truly awful season of All Stars.

Yes let's get back to talking about Shea's fucked up face. And what the fuck was Blair yakking about last week that she was getting dragged on social media about .... what?

I couldn't understand a word he said through his veneers.....

Wasn't Blair dragged for having a DUI, and then another queen revealed she's had about 7? Messy bitches

7 DUIs??!! How is that possible? Don't you lose your license after 2? And your insurance goes through the roof.

I don't think there is any queen who has 7.

Raven has 2 duis, and a few other queens have one that I know of like Phi Phi and Laganja.

Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars Season 5 Queens Faceapp results.

WTF is that, R545? HIDEOUS

r545! They look good! Except May. Yikes!

Alexis looks like a cool stoner chick. Blair and Derrick look like vicious high school girls.

Blair looks exactly the same.

I love Miz Cracker, I think she is beautiful and talented - I have no issues with her at all.

What's not to love

I love India Ferrah and her red hair drag

Maybe Blair had 7 Dicks Up In.....those are DUI's - right?

Anyone else watched Drag Race Canada? The queens have a cheaper aesthetic but it's already more fun that this season of All Stars. Went right back to basics with a photoshoot challenge

Yes, r554. They seem fun. But Brooklyn has a personality of a potato.

Also a lot of the Canadian queens have tragic hairlines on their wigs. Too low on the forehead and too full/doll looking.

Yes, R554 - I enjoyed it more than I thought I would!

Elisha Cuthbert was a fantastic guest judge. I think I like that the guest judge will be the one doing the main stage runway walk and pose in Ru's absence.

Plus, I love that "The Realness" is the runway song, one of my favorites from any season.

r554 see r535 and r536

The judges are lacking in the Canadian show. And who is that annoying Asian queen with the shitty baggy bodysuits and shittier attitude.

I just saw Brooke's actual name realized that I know Brooke's family. They were family friends when I was younger. I am older than Brooke and haven't been to his house or around him since he was 8 or 9 but what a small world!

I enjoyed the Canadian debut but two things bugged me.

1) Having the guest judge do the hosting felt odd.

2) I don't know what the judges saw, I thought the other queen definitely won the lip sync.

I wasn’t going to watch the Canadian one but I LOVE Elisha Cuthbert so I might do the first ep.

So what R558? Jeffrey Bowyer- Chapstick is delicious and Stacey Mackenzie and Traci Melchor - I'm in. There's a few great looking dolls in that Canadian group too. Loved the photo challenge. Brooke-Lynne Hites is really hard to figure out. So fucking boring. Nice ballet legs for a DUDE. Herses was a bad season amongst many bad seasons of Drag Race. Who won again. Oh yeah, Yvie Oddley.

So tonight is the Dating Snatch Game. Not a bitch there can be funny or impersonate ANY woman. Blair is a woman. Alexis can be funny but in an overly cutesy way for a big fat truck driver.

Check out the Canadians. So fresh and still learning. Broke. The CBC must have granted them a heritage clothing allowance. I love Canada. Just not Brook - Lynne or that Iranian mess from Drag Race Season 37. The Canadian iteration is promising. Traci is a friend of mine and a cooler woman you'll never meet. Stacey is ANTM Drag Queen realness and a freakazoid of nature. JBC's hip are too wide to be my BF but I'll fuck him as The Bitchelor.

Oh yeah, Alexis and Juju and Blair and Shea. So exciting. I'm beginning to hope that Miss India takes the crown!

Why Vanjie? She's always been terrible at lip syncing.

Shea is so goddamn boring. Self righteous queens are a BORE. I expect it from the haggish frauen that are carried to the end of Survivor. It’s EXHAUSTING here.

Alexis deserved the win. Or Juju. Yes, the great gay icon Flava Flav. 🙄

India is a dumb cunt for breaking up the early season queen alliance that COULD HAVE BEEN.

r563 just watched DRCAN - omg it was fun. OMFG Jimbo - the best entrance ever "now i am going to spin in a circle" The getup, the act and sooo fucking funny. All the queens were good.

The lipsync "assassins" are chosen because they're all queens who were planned for the Werk the World tour that should have been happening right now. It's advertising.

I know next weeks assassin and she's the first legit assassin so far. She's not on the Werk the World tour or LV. It's a great one!

Alyssa Edwards is a legit Drag Queen Assassin and Monet ain't bad either. Who's more legit? Morgan was fine and Vanjie, hell no. I bet it's boring ole Latrice Royale. The lip queen assassins seldom won drag Race. Coco Montrese saved more LSFYL's than any other contestant. Manila and Kennedy are fantastic too. Can't really think of who you're referring to R568. Is it Tatianna? Shangela? There are no others that I remember who really stand out as ASSASSINS.

[Quote] Alyssa Edwards is a legit Drag Queen Assassin

She didn't show it.

Shea annoys to fuck out of me. I really wish I could see what the rest of you see.

Shea is a great LSer. I think she's good but not great.

I could swear heard Vanjie say something during her behind the scenes filming to the effect that she knew she wasn't the greatest pick for "assasin" status. Having her on was most certainly for the drama of being Alexis' drag daughter and the simple fact a lot of people get a kick out of her. I REALLY wish she had not gotten those fucking veneers. I miss her old look. Still has a lot of heart though.

Tonight was one of the messiest Drag Race episodes ever. It totally made up for the lackluster previous episodes.

Cracker, Blair, and India should have been eliminated on the spot for their wretched Snatch Game performances.

Did Cracker attempt a joke even once? Blair wasn't too bad but the other two in her group overshadowed her. Love her or hate her Alexis continues to make great TV

Cracker's performance - Lazy Gaga

No effort to really even change her look.

Eartha Kitt needs retired now if all people can do is cat jokes. Valentina's was at least absurd.

Shocked that nobody has ever done Goop or Dolly Parton

Why does Miss Cracker keep saying she is a comedy queen? Show us!

Man that was the worst Snatch Game ever! It was even worse than last weeks awkward to watch unfunny performances.

Cracker was appalling as Gaga. Blair was wooden and unfunny as Ellen. India was just the worst. What a mess.

Then, India knew she was going and decided to go out with maximum cuntforce. Pretty low.

r578 her picks for snatch game are .....interesting. First she picked a reference not many people would get except maybe her grandma. Then to do Lady Gaga - this kiss of death in snatch game.

Meanwhile RuPaul deleted her instagram and twitter accounts - too much Fracking joking??

R580 I’ve never understood the hype about her and this series is just reinforcing that. Doing Lady Gaga is a choice. However... the latest episode was pretty entertaining.

And she didn't even bother with a costume R580. It was just the same old Cracker wig and a boring dress that Gaga would never wear.

And she wasn't funny at all. Painful to watch.

All Stars is really scraping the bottom of the barrel this time. There have been too many of them now.

RU-VEAL YOURSELF !

Lipsynch Assassin

I'm starting to hate Blair

Blair

Don't hate Blair

Cracker is awful. Does he think he looks like Lady Gaga? lmao

If I was in snatch game I would be Nicocado Avocado

When India did Jeffree he should have made references to makeup pallettes, and also imitated or mocked how Jeffree talks during his videos. He goes, welcome to my channel , today, we will premiere the whatever palette, etc. There are alot of Jeffree videos on youtube and alot to riducule about his personality and demeanor and talking style.

I would love Snatch Game to be limited to impressions of stars who have stood the test of time: Judy, Marilyn, Liz, Liza, Cher, Dolly, Ethel, etc. I’m tired of seeing impressions of current nobodies.

Blair's plastic surgery freaked me out during this episode. It hadn't bothered me too much before, but he looks like a fucking freak out of drag.

I have no idea who the two guest judges were or why I should I care about them. The blond one annoyed me for some reason. I know the Canadian one has been on before, but who is he and what is he known for?

Ms. Cracker, I don't know if it's editing or what, but she just comes across as a bundle of nerves and insecurities. I don't get. I think I'm the only one who likes Blair. His runways are stunning. Jujube is the best by far.

Cracker is prettier than Gaga. Looks like Cracker was copying GaGa's Golden Globes gown. Not sure why she wasn't clutching a mock award and talking up her "craft" to at least create some kind of character.

Shea came off as very unlikeable with her whole "I still haven't gotten over losing the crown that I deserved" schtick. Clearly she has not idea why she lost -still.

That was some high-level shit stirring India pulled. But seems if Alexeis and Mayhem did try to swing the vote, it would have been on film. And what was with the bf's eyes??

Not sure what the judges were drinking in the green room, but all were having a great time, ever from Ru's walk out. I was having fun with them...and the snatch game was about extremes! 3 terribly unfunny queens, and three who knocked it out of the park. Juju and Shea were just having fun and Alexis decided to simple play off the other terrible two so that helped her. Overall, I like this episode for cringe, laughs and drama!

I believe India. I just wonder why they didn't show the footage of it happening, unless they are saving it for the reunion. My biggest ugh with this season is that everyone seems to have already decided the Shea is the anointed one. She is not that great.

[quote]Don't hate Blair.

Hate the dress. And the stuffed deer head. And the art director for this shoot. Bamboo?

I agree that Eartha Kitt should be retired as a Snatch Game character, but Juju nailed it.

I'd love to see someone do Bette Davis or Tallulah Bankhead as well as Jinkx did Little Edie. RuGirls struggle with camp icons, as witnessed by Robbie Turner's Diana Vreeland, Cracker's Dorothy Parker, and Sasha Velour's Marlene Dietrich (which is the best of the three but still not very good).

Scratching post for part 2 is up: