Klobuchar officially undergoing vetting for VP

Oh dear Lord, please don't let it be her, please don't let it be her ........

Yes, we've already had a thread

Mein Fuhrer!

I wonder what word one could search for to see if there was an existing thread?

She will be a millstone around Biden’s neck...next.

[quote] I wonder what word one could search for to see if there was an existing thread?

Certainly not Klobuchar. Far too common. It would be like searching for "an" or "the".

I don’t I think I’ve ever seen a VP selection this competitive. Well we all know why. If Biden gets elected, the VP will President on January 21, 2021.

R7: Will be President in January 21, 2021.

As a Canadian, I found Klobuchar to be bitchy and vindictive, and certainly homophonic and shrill and ignorant toward Mayor Pete. She's almost like a female version of Donald Trump. Two thumbs down!!

She's OK. She just shakes too much.

She will do.

Since VP Biden has indicated his running mate will be a woman, I have went through a list of prominent woman leaders that could be candidates. Remember, Biden is old there is a higher than average probability that the VP may need to become President. We need someone that can immediately serve as President. Remember, that is the primary role of this person as defined in the Constitution. So I have looked at a number of potential female VP candidates that have been mentioned: Warren-smart, hard working, knows DC, ran a fairly successful candidacy but was ultimately rejected by the populate because she is like having my grade school nun lecture me every day-she has the Hilary complex to defeat and she is 70 yo. Would turn off any chance of capturing white male votes.

Harris-smart, minority, new generation-younger. She failed miserably as a candidate, did not connect with the crowds. She has never faced tough competition as she is from a very blue state where Republicans are ineffective in most state and national offices. She has a lot of skeletons of previous decisions as state AG and SF City Attorney that would be campaign fodder along with some interesting personal history. Only been a Senator for 2 years and not well connected in DC as of yet. Not ready for prime time.

Whitmer - rising star but only 2 years as Gov and before that state representative otherwise no national governance experience. The Republicans have successfully framed her in a negative light with respect to the Covid response-all unfair. Would be a lightening rod for right wingers. Needs more experience for the role of VP.

Abrams-served the state legislature with distinction. Smart, hard working, ran a very successful gov campaign and lost because of voter suppression. However, her child like response to not conceding the election began to taint her image. She has NO major leadership role in government or business. Minority is a plus. She does not have the experience for this role. Her campaigning for the role has turned off many.

Cortez Masto-young, has run a successful tough senate race, AG for 8 years. Previous working relationships with the Biden family. Unknown outside of Nevada. Senator for only two years with little DC knowledge. Is a minority. Unknown of how she would perform in the heat of a national campaign. Rising star but probably too little experience at this time for the role.

Lujan-Gov of a small purple state. Did serve 8 years as a US Rep. Has handled the Covid crisis very well. No national presence. High ratings during the first two years as Gov. Well connected political family. Minority. Has effectively managed right wingers. Risk is unknown ability to campaign at a national level, unknown quantity. Has the skills, background and expertise but will likely not be considered.

Demings-rising star, former police officer, after being police chief, ran for mayor of Orlando and pulled out, won in a new - democratic house district in 2016. No opposition to campaign against in 2016. Has done an excellent job on the House Intel Committee. Well liked in the Dem inner circle. No national presence or experience of national campaigning.

Klobuchur- well known and experienced Senator from a blue/purple state. Well liked in her state and able to work across the aisle. Ran a tough race for President. Moderate which would appeal to much of the cross over voters. Well respected in DC and could easily fill role of President if needed. While her debate style is methodical, she handles pressure well and was effective with zingers against Trump. Not well liked by the left wing of the party. Not a minority. Some rumblings of treating her staff poorly. Probably next to Warren, the most qualified of all these candidates.

After looking at all of these individuals, Klobuchur is probably the best choice.

What about Nancy Pelosi?

Klob is too conservative. Biden needs to lock up the bernie wing and I am guessing he will look elsewhere. Obama has already subtly endorsed Eliz Warren as VP so that is my guess.

[quote]Biden needs to lock up the bernie wing and I am guessing he will look elsewhere

The Bernie Wing doesn’t vote.

Good analysis R12. The only thing I would argue is that Demings DOES have somewhat of a national presence after her well-televised role as an impeachment manager against Trump last year.

Fucking salad comb.

What about Dianne Feinstein? Kirsten Gillibrand? Hillary Clinton?

This is not the way.

[quote] What about Nancy Pelosi?

Christ, she’s older than Biden. You’re moving in the wrong direction, chief.

Disaster. She practically had a nervous breakdown during a debate because she thought she was better than Pete. She displayed much of the same craziness that Trump has. That’s all we need.

I'm really not impressed with her.

So far, I'd have to go with Kamala over Warren or her.

R13, you think of Klobuchur, that “she handles pressure well”? Watch that debate again. She was melting down, in hysterics. And I didn’t like her superiority complex. She treated Pete rudely, and I’ve seen enough of that with Trump. She’d also be easy for Putin to manipulate with flattery.

There were two things she spoke of as great accomplishments:

1. Declaring her candidacy in a snow storm. Seriously, she mentioned this many times. A real profile in courage.

2. Her questioning of SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh. She asked him if he had a drinking problem, and he then asked her the same. Then she cowered. Her response was to beg for an answer from him to her question. How was this an accomplishment? She should have told him that he was there to answer questions, not ask them. Or that she answered to the voters, not to him. There were many things she could have said, but there was nothing in her behavior that evidenced. Courage or leadership or thoughtfulness.

I’m also tired of the orange one declaring great success over likewise inconsequential actions, and I’d hate to see this idiot doing more of the same.

[quote]She practically had a nervous breakdown during a debate because she thought she was better than Pete.

She is better than that rat-faced millennial mayor. He had no business running for President.

R24, that’s not the point. I’m not a Pete promoter, but I saw nothing that justified her rudeness. If he baited her, to make her look petulant, well, that’s part of the process, isn’t it? I’ll be happy if neither is VP. Let her run again for President in 4 years if she wants. But let her prove she can control her temper, because she showed evidence that she could not. And I’ve had it with all this drama over the P and VP’s emotions.

[quote] What about Dianne Feinstein? Kirsten Gillibrand? Hillary Clinton?

What about them?

Please let it be Michelle Obama. 🤞

On Netflix tonight I watched the documentary Becoming. I believe Michelle Obama would rather chew off her arm than run for office. She’s making a diffference but free from that circus.

Well, she is a staple genius.

These threads are being use for opposition research to find the easiest lines of attack against whomever becomes the VP pick. Don’t make the enemy’s job easier for them. Smarten up.

Klob is a bore.

r31, yeah because having someone "exciting" like Trump is exactly how you want government to be run.

Michelle Obama wants nothing to do with that circus known as DC. Washington doesn't work and Michelle knows that. She's been first lady and had a front row seat to 8 years of bullshit. I wouldn't want to run for office either. Nothing gets done in Washington anyway.

I'm glad she's raking in hundreds of millions of dollars with these book advances, book sales and Netflix documentaries. She and Barack deserve it after 8 years of bullshit. If my life was like that I'd stay right where I'm at.

Fuck running for president.

I like Amy. Better than that whiny screeching Pocahontas.

Ohh.

We ARE F#&$@%!!

So why was my post taken down (R12). It was a thoughtful, in depth analysis without any demeaning comments. There are comments that followed that complimented my response. If this is the "free press" defined by DL, then we are screwed.

So I will try again. My post (R12) has been removed. It was a thoughful and insightful analysis of several individuals for VP. It was not demeaning or rude. In fact, I have been notified that others like the analysis. Is this the free press from DL? If so, we are all screwed.

R38 Don't worry, sometimes replies cancel each other out. It's happened to me lots of times, although entire threads do get deleted if they devolve into primitive lizard brain responses. Speech is basically free here actually, probably more so than most message boards.