The GH Nurse's Ball 2020

Thanks, OP.

Bitte!

You must be psychic, OP. Welcome Mat pulled on snake thread at 234 posts.

Exciting new topical storylines coming soon: Will Mike and nuAudrey be able to consummate their torrid love affair before the virus rips through their nursing care facility?

I will cut that bougie sweater-guard wearin' bitch!

Starting Monday, May 25 through June 12, ABC will be airing select episodes of General Hospital’s wildly popular Nurses Ball from 2014-2015.

For the love of God, STOP THE FUCKING WILLOW FLASHBACKS!!!

I'm sorry, this is breaking me. This is unwatchable.

Someday I envision Willow dying in Chase’s hunky arms and him crying a lot.

Why is the show so obsessed with this boring, bland bitch? Enough!

Thank you so much OP! Very much appreciated.

I actually like Willow. And, her scene earlier this year when she found out Wiley wasn't her son and that her's had died, was extremely good. She showed that she can act, she just needs to be given the right material.

I actually loved Willow until they made her baby crazy. I think the actress is great and IA about the scenes where Willow found out that Wiley wasn’t hers. Baby crazy plus pairing her with Michael means game over though. She’ll probably be dead soon.

So, without doing the Friday flashbacks and stretching one episode into two by inserting all those flashbacks, GH would have run out of new episodes last week.

Well, at l east they will get through May sweeps with new episodes. And typically, GH runs its Nurses Ball epsiodes around Memorial Day weekend. So, Frank airing a Nurses Ball repeat at that same time seems appropriate.

But no one wants to see the NB from 2014 and 2015. At least run the episodes from the 90s. CBS is putting this show to shame with their classic episodes and themed weeks. I’m sure we’ll get the Best of... Sonny/Carson/Jasam collections soon.

what was happening during the 2014 and 2015 nurse's balls? I feel like there was one year when RC was writing that it was kind of good.

Oh, Lord. R15 here. I just googled the 2014 Nurses Ball and a video came up of Kris Alderson as Kiki performing.

Which year did Spencer get Ronn Moss to come on to perform "Baby Come Back?"

Tristan Rogers speaking his mind in this Cameo video to someone named Cassie, says the story lines are "pretty crappy" and there is nothing he can do about it.

He also says in both the Cassie and Skyla videos that Emma Sams was scheduled to return and Robert/Holly were going to be around for a while and then Emma got COVID19 and it all went out the window.

Another big reason they probably won't air old Nurse's Balls or any old Classic episodes is because they played a lot of Top 40 songs on the show. It would cost even more money.

It's something Soaps in general are really missing today.

It's too bad Eddie Alderson got out of acting. He was much more talented than his sister and pretty cute. He's aged well. I'm surprised Frankie V. isn't knocking down his door.

Imagine if there had been a mini #metoo uproar from all of the past young twink actors FV hired over the years. Ford Brothers and their ilk.

Today's Willowfest sucked. With little more than a handful of shows left this is what they give us, an almost all Willow show. What a snoozer and then what wasn't Willow was Brooke Lyn or whatever her name is. I can't stand her. She makes me feel sorry for Julian. Speaking of him, I guess he's going to be Nelle's character witness. How is it that she is always in the right place at the right time. That might happen to someone once in their life but it happens to Nelle every 5 minutes. What shit writing. I don't think I'm even going to miss the show during the time it's off the air with new shows. I'll be damned if I'll watch NB shows from just a couple of years ago. From the 90s I would love it, but not these. They were boring to sit though the first time. GH should stop being so cheap and pay for the older songs if they have to.

GH doesn't go far enough back in it's episodes. I hate them.

When Jill Farren Phelps got hired as EP of GH, she AXED the Nurses Ball (which promotes AIDS awareness)

[quote]Today's Willowfest sucked. With little more than a handful of shows left this is what they give us, an almost all Willow show.

At the time that the episode was written and taped, they didn't know they were going to go on lockdown and be unable to produce new shows.

Similarly, it was padded with flashbacks to help stretch out the remaining new episodes. .

Looks like LC has sprained her wrist after breaking her hip a few years back. At this rate, the show is going to need to pull Anna Lee's old wheelchair out of storage very soon.

I can’t believe DoD is the current leading man on GH. Just unbelievable.

Maybe TPTB had all the male actors use a tape measure to decide who will be lead and the DOD won hand's down, well, maybe not hands...

What's wrong with LC's right eye. Did anyone else notice it?

Maybe she injured it when she sprained her wrist?

Lately, they have been writing Lucy very annoying, when she appears, but I loved her today! Especially, when she told off Nelle.

I hope Michael loses custody. And poor Avery in the previews asking Ava if she’ll forget her. Carly and Sonny need to die.

Brook Lynn did a great job prettying up Willow. It's the best she's ever looked on the show.

Real Andrews tweeted - then deleted - about not wearing face masks because he’s not “brainwashed”.

Is that fucking moron the one who played Trina's father? If so I hope he never gets another job as long as he lives, which if he doesn't wear a mask might happily not be too much longer.

That’s him. I was excited when they brought Taggert back and then upset when they killed him off but he can stay gone. I wonder if he’s aware that Ingo is still selling masks. Idiot.

These actors are all hot messes behind the scenes. I'm just waiting for some idiocy from Chad Duel next.

Still love the rumor I read on DL that CD's girlfriend caught Kris Alderson sucking his Dick of Death at a BBQ at Brandon Barash's house.

R36 Chad proved himself to be an idiot a while ago.

[quote]Still love the rumor I read on DL that CD's girlfriend caught Kris Alderson sucking his Dick of Death at a BBQ at Brandon Barash's house.

I can't believe that little Starr Manning was such a slut. Damn girl.

Wow, the one who played Starr must have some deep throat and absolutely no gag reflex.

Rumors of a Cyrus led drug epidemic hitting PC after they return with some cast, including vets, being killed off.

Sasha will get addicted and be a fatality and good riddance imo, can't stand her voice.

I can't imagine which vets would get addicted. Who is stressed and would turn to drugs?

Blackmailed Jordan

Newly, unhappily married Julian

Disbarred Alexis

Nik distraught over losing 90% of his fortune

Franco overcome by 10 year anniversary of his crimes

Who are your guesses?

R39 Maybe she's bulimic? I knew a bulimic in college and she had lost her gag reflex. She used to do a "party trick" where she shoved her arm down her throat. Then she recovered and her arm was too fat to do that.

R41 I don’t think they get addicted but some end up casualties while trying to take him on.

Ahhh, ok, makes sense r43.

Laura better NOT be a casualty.

I will keep Jordan on my list and add Harmony although she is a non-entity.

If Peter wants to die trying to redeem himself by taking down Cyrus, I'm good with that just as long as the actor leaves.

Maybe Kristen was dickmatized.

I ff'ed through the recent fake wedding scenes. Did anyone who stayed awake through them notice if they explained why Harmony wasn't at the wedding?

I could see TJ turning to illicit pain killers in the aftermath of his beatdown injuries. These days doctors are loathe to prescribe more than a really short course, if at all.

At the wedding they did at least let Monica get in a dig about Lucy and Alan's past. If I was the wardrobe person I would have had Lucy show up to officiate wearing a big red hat and dress as a nod to her and Alan's wedding at the Quartermaine Estate. I remember that wedding, so vividly, even though I was only 6 or 7 at the time.

No mention of Harmony. They also didn’t explain why Jason wasn’t there. Seems like he would’ve been. The worst part was seeing Monica so damn cordial with Carly and Sonny. It’s a joke at this point.

Drug epidemic should hit Sam. Get her on sleeping pills. It would help with KeMo’s lack of energy in every scene.

[quote] The worst part was seeing Monica so damn cordial with Carly and Sonny. It’s a joke at this point.

It doesn't bother me anymore. I just figure that Monica has resigned herself to the fact that if she wants a relationship with Michael or Jason, she has to be at least cordial with Carly and Sonny. I've known many people who dislike people, but they put up with them to maintain relationships with people they have in common.

Sorry, was hoping one of you had the YT link to the Ladies of Loving chat? I gather major tea was spilt on producer Joe Stuart. And Noelle Beck gave the poop on her nose job.

[quote]The worst part was seeing Monica so damn cordial with Carly and Sonny. It’s a joke at this point.

Even in real life, sometimes people just let shit go. I don't think Monica will ever forget the pat, but she knows that it's easier to keep the peace with them in order to keep Michael in her life. (That's the way I justify it).

Certain grudges should be long-standing. That’s soap. I’m sick of everyone bowing down to Carson and being chummy with them. They want us to watch Mayor Laura and Sonny giggling with one another but then have Carly threaten others by using Sonny’s name in the next scene. He literally killed her son but Monica is all “Make yourself comfortable! Would you like some tea?”

R36

It wasn't Chad's girlfriend that found KA giving him a blow job. It was his wife. All of that got exposed when his wife's sister blew (pardon the pun) it all sky high on social media. His wife divorced him post haste.

R33

Real Andrews did more than tweet he wasn't wearing a mask. He linked his tweet to his FB page with a shit load of dangerous conspiracy bullshit. I know social media is each actor's domain but when they start linking to inflammatory misinformation then it's time ABC steps in. These are dangerous times & sadly there are deluded idiots who will follow through on things.

He's also a part of some sort of mental health Ponzi scheme. That is dangerous.

Good to know r55, thanks.

I read RA is good friends with MB, wonder how Mo feels about the mental health stuff..

Taggert can stay dead.

Tomorrow’s “Flashback Friday” airing is the 55th anniversary episode.

I'll skip that one, it was one of my least favorite anniversary episodes of any soap.

Molly Lansing-Davis is starting to sprout a monobrow.

^^^

All of Alexis' kids are terrible.

I thought they were going to replay Luke's special episode

I believe that episode is next week.

That is one I will watch, it and the 50th Anniversary episode were very good. Today's was horrible.

Why is Alex worried about what to do with her life, she is old enough to retire? Also, I'm getting very tired of Sam's attitude with Brando.

Because I can't stand how Julian's past is constantly brought up against him, I would have made this story his grand redemption. He would have gotten on the stand, admitted his wrongdoings concerning Wiley, and told how Nelle blackmailed him into marriage. He could sink her case, ensuring Michael gets full custody. Then he could be written out for a few months, while in jail. Sonny, Carly, Michael, etc. could then agree to forgive him, since he sacrificed his freedom to screw over Nelle. Then everyone could move on.

So... it’s okay for Michael to get a quickie marriage but not okay for Nelle to do the same thing? It’s also okay for Carly to threaten Martin, a lawyer, using Sonny’s name? Come on, GH.

I hope Nelle wins, takes that kid and leaves town. End this story!

NuAudrey will debut at the end of the week! What a cliffhanger!

R66 Michael got a quickie marriage to little miss perfect, Nelle got one to a convicted felon and former mobster. I can't understand why Nelle thought it was going to help her. I think Julian gets a bad rap, compared to what others on the show gets away with, but there is no way he equals things out when compared to Willow.

I know Julian and Willow aren’t equal but to see everyone attack Nelle for doing the same to better her chances which is what Michael did... Listen, I cannot stand Nelle and I’m over the character but I am just so sick of CarSon and Co. always acting so superior to everyone. To hear Carly say things like “Having Michael made me a better person” and “I never used my kids as pawns” is beyond ridiculous.

[quote] I know Julian and Willow aren’t equal but to see everyone attack Nelle for doing the same to better her chances which is what Michael did...

I don't know, to me it is different because while they both did last minute marriages to help their case, Michael actually thought his out and got the best person. Nelle just reacts like a spoiled child. She heard Michael and Willow got married, so she went out and blackmailed one of the worst people she could find to marry. I'm almost surprised they didn't have her marry Cyrus. Though I agree about Carly and Sonny.

My dvr fucked up and I wasn't able to record today's episode. But after reading the comments, I think I'm kind of glad. Curious, though. Did Chase and/or Sasha appear at the trial? (spying from the back, of course).... and did Nina testify? thanks.

No Chase or Sasha at trial.

Nina hasn't testified yet.

Nelle was clutching the half heart necklace in her hand at the trial.

The only way this trial would've been interesting is if Lucas came forward & challenged Michael & Nelle for custody. Nelle's a lunatic ex-con murderer. She quickie marries Julian the ex-mobster. Michael's an ex-con murderer whose family are craven mobtsers.

Lucas would have viewers rooting for him. Bobbie would be torn but support Lucas in the end. Carly would be irate.

Who gives a shit about Sasha, Willow or Nelle?

nuAudrey will be revealed to be the drug mule for Cyrus into her nursing home

Is the reason Jason hasn't taken out Nelle or Cyrus (as they all seem to encounter each other often) because TPTB are still trying to deify Saint Sonny? They've castrated Julian and turned Ava into a drunk. Cyrus makes a veiled offer to help her get Avery away from Sonny and she doesn't bite?

As soon as I saw that fucking half heart necklace all I could think is that insta-twins Willow and Nelle, along with Mama Nina, are going to eat this show.

Willow has a half heart necklace as well??

Of course GH dropped Lucas from this story. They can never give him anything to do. Not even a cameo in court.

In other news, NLG is doing a Santa Barbara reunion soon. I hope she gets Marcy Walker to appear.

Anyone watch “The Story of Soaps”? It turned into one big Andy Cohen special. The first hour started off so strong.

Genie had the best tidbit though:

R78

I really enjoyed the special. I could have lived without Mo. He came off as such an ass. I also wish it had had stars from AW/GL/ATWT speaking.

The commentator lineup was rough. I also wish they’d gotten more stars from those soaps and really went in depth. They could’ve done so much more regarding daytime. Andy had more screen time than Genie, Susan and Erika combined. It was pretty disappointing.

Tomorrow...

The final episode of General Hospital.

Thank god.

Something stupid about this custody hearing, why the fuck would Diane not call Monica as a witness? They are trying to paint Michael's home as the best environment for the child. He lives with his grandmother, who is the highly respected Chief of Staff at General Hospital. She would have been one of the first people I would have called as a witness.

And isn’t Dr. O in on it? Where is she? They couldn’t pay Ryan Carnes for a few days work either?

R84 Yes, she was part of the baby switch. But thanks to Peter she is now awaiting trial in The Hague.

Yes, r83 that would also give me the opportunity to cross examine under oath Dr. Quartermaine about her participation in the recent fraudulent surgery of a young child.

All I say, I say, in a flawless Southern accent

R86 Monica would have no way of knowing the consent form was forged. Doctors don't really handle paperwork. Now, if it was Bobbie, it would be different.

I used to love courtroom drama but I can't do that with the blatant bias on GH.

In a real soap they would've had Martin eviscerate Carly on the stand and called Sonny to the stand as well. Diane asked Carly today if after all the shit Nelle's pulled has Carly ever retaliated or caused Nelle any danger or pain. Carly said no. WTF??

Martin should've brought up that Carly locked Nelle on the roof in the freezing cold. He could've called Liz to back that up since she found her. Martin should've had Sonny on the stand tearing him a new one about his criminal history. But no, GH gives Sonny & his cronies a pass.

So tomorrow is the last episode until they start taping again, which could be months away, not just the last episode of the week?

Correct r89, last new episode until they start taping again.

Odd that Tad only brought up Carly shooting Tony. It’s like they can’t remember character history or even what they had onscreen last year or last week. It’s all so bad.

I think we get Flashback Friday and then 2014-2015 Nurses Ball repeats.

If Nelle really turns out to be Nina's daughter, (which is the laziest storyline idea in some time), it makes no sense for Nina to be so nice to her now. Where's the drama when she discovers the locket?

R92 the only way to make it interesting is to make Nelle and Willow twins. Chase and Michael will have each been with both sisters.

R87

We already saw in flashback that Monica and Bobbie were in cahoots about the forged consent form.

Twitter thinks Liv is pregnant.

R94 We know that. But it would be hard to prove that the chief of staff knew.

Liv as in Olivia is pregnant? Again? Isn't she a little long in the tooth?

Also, who really cares about Olivia? Why give her a big storyline even? Ugh.

It will probably be either Molly, Willow or Sasha. IDGAF about any of them.

Monica’s pregnant.

I guess she could be.The actress is fifty. It isn’t uncommon to have a late in life pregnancy. I just don’t see a story reason for it, just like Carly’s last pregnancy.

It seems like they were going for a special needs baby story re: Carly’s pregnancy but backtracked so now Donna is just another kid in the attic.

Wonder if they were gearing up for a who killed Julian story line when taping ended, several mentions of his death. Is WdV's contract up for negotiation?

R100 That would be a better storyline than Maxine getting knocked up by Peter.

Daytime Emmy Nominations:

OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE BY A LEAD ACTRESS IN A DRAMA SERIES

Finola Hughes (General Hospital)

Katherine Kelly Lang (The Bold and the Beautiful)

Heather Tom (The Bold and the Beautiful)

Maura West (General Hospital)

Arianne Zucker (Days of Our Lives)

OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE BY A LEAD ACTOR IN A DRAMA SERIES

Steve Burton (General Hospital)

Thorsten Kaye (The Bold and the Beautiful)

Jon Lindstrom (General Hospital)

Thaao Penghlis (Days of Our Lives)

OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE BY A SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A DRAMA SERIES

Tamara Braun (General Hospital)

Rebecca Budig (General Hospital)

Susan Seaforth Hayes (Days of Our Lives)

Christel Khalil (The Young and the Restless)

Annika Noelle (The Bold and the Beautiful)

OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE BY A SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A DRAMA SERIES

Mark Grossman (The Young and the Restless)

Bryton James (The Young and the Restless)

Wally Kurth (Days of Our Lives)

Chandler Massey (Days of Our Lives)

James Patrick Stuart (General Hospital)

Paul Telfer (Days of Our Lives)

OUTSTANDING YOUNG PERFORMER IN A DRAMA SERIES

Sasha Calle (The Young and the Restless)

Olivia Rose Keegan (Days of Our Lives)

Katelyn MacMullen (General Hospital)

Eden McCoy (General Hospital)

Thia Megia (Days of Our Lives)

OUTSTANDING GUEST PERFORMER IN A DRAMA SERIES

Elissa Kapneck (The Young and the Restless)

Michael Knight (General Hospital)

Eva LaRue (The Young and the Restless)

Jeffrey Vincent Parise (The Young and the Restless)

Chrishell Stause (Days of Our Lives)

The 47th Annual Daytime Emmys will air Friday, June 26 at 8 p.m. ET/PT on CBS.

LOL, rooting for Tad to win best guest performer! Who is Katelyn McMullen? One of the boring new girls who I honestly cannot tell apart (Willow and whatshername)?

I wish they would get rid of 90% of the newer characters. Most of them are so dull and unnecessary.

Katelyn MacMullen plays Willow.

I'm presuming that sound you just heard was Laura Wright tearing her La-z-Boy apart.

Katelyn plays Willow. Almost positive the reel she submitted was Willow learning that Wiley wasn’t hers. I think she was pretty good but I think it’ll either be Eden or the girl with the bug eyes from DOOL.

I can’t believe SB scored a lead nod. And Budig in supporting? For what?

William Lipton who plays Cameron should have been nominated. He was better than those nominated in the newly merged younger category and he was also better than most of those nominated in the supporting actor.

R109, I'm shocked he wasn't nominated. I thought he would be.

Just about to say that, r109. It's shocking he was left off when that Haley from Days and screechy Eden are nominated. Suspect that category will come down to Keegan and Katelyn (Keegan is not a good actor overall, but she was strong at the end of her run, when her sudden turn to pyro was revealed).

Jason Thompson was also nominated in Lead Actor, FYI.

William and the kid from B&B we’re both snubbed. But Eden is Frank’s golden girl. I’m shocked Max Gail was also left out.

Steve Burton best actor? There goes the entire credibility out the window.

r112, thanks. I got the list from ew.com, guess they forgot JT.

What did Thaao do to be nominated for lead?

OMG some dumbass intern at the EMMY office fucked up the paperwork. End of story.

r105, we love you for posting it!

I hope James Patrick Stuart wins. I love Valentin!

What is the cutoff for Young Performer? It just seems odd to have Joslyn and Willow, both, in that category. In addition, it seems apparent that young men were the ones hurt by making the category gender neutral.

r120

I think it's under 25

R108 If she submitted the reel where she discovered her baby died, I genuinely think Katelyn MacMullen could win. That was undoubtedly a very good performance.

I can’t remember a single standout performance from Rebecca Budig. I hope Tamara wins just for having to be apart of that horrific Franco/Drew mess.

I thought Steve was great yesterday but Kimberly McCullough brought out the best in him. Best work he’s ever done. No idea how he managed a lead nod.

r123

Robin was on yesterday??

R124 No. lol. Just thinking about when he actually tried in scenes.

Damn, GH lucked out. Nina being sworn-in was naturally a dramatic way to end on a cliffhanger, until they can return.

Least believable plot point ever was Maxie not eating a meal today. Clearly, she’s knocked up.

Anyone understand what this tweet from NLG to TB could mean?

R123

If I had to guess I'd say Budig submitted Hayden's goodbye scenes.. She tweeted that she shared her nom with Easten & the little girl who plays Violet.

Those were strong scenes. I remember crying through them

Yeah, I know....MARY!

R128

I don't know WTF Nancy's talking about. TB didn't "walk away" from GH. She was fired. TB even admitted that.

There are 2 glaring omissions for me.

#1 William Lipton totally deserved a nomination over Thia. She was awful. Did he submit the wrong scenes or what?

#2 Camila Banus screwed herself by submitting in Lead. She's too young to go for Lead. She'd have walked away with a nom & a win if she had submitted in Supporting.

I am ecstatic that Benard & Duel were omitted.

IDK what happened with William. Camila got a big head from Stabi and went for lead. She’s been campaigning all year.

And maybe there’s more to that TB story. Perhaps Frank asked her back and she said no.

[quote]@NancyLeeGrahn Replying to @TamaraBraun So, You are a cool broad who had the ethics to walk away from what is now accepted to walk away from. I have always had enormous respect for you. Happy to see your nom.

"What is now accepted to walk away from" sounds like either a metoo thing or a gender-based salary inequity. I'm gonna guess the latter.

I'm also guessing it's #MeToo and from her first stint on GH not the recent mess.

Why would she agree to return in a new role then?

New management?

There could be a number of reasons she would agree to return:

Wouldn't be interacting with the person(s).

Person(s) is/are gone now.

Needed the money and hoped #MeToo era would force people to act better.

Would GH bring TB back as yet another character so soon?

They aren't bringing TB back, we are just speculating about NLG's tweet and why TB agreed to return as Kim Nero.

I do wonder what bill of goods FV sold her to get her back and how disappointed she must have been with the rubbish he delivered.

Also wonder what happened with Elisabeth Hendrickson, she did the requisite MB fawning on SM yet got immediately backburnered and then faded into oblivion.

Like TB, EH was brought on to try and keep BM happy in a new couple. He shitcanned his scenes with her as well. Since EH didn't have other strong character connections, she didn't last as long as TB.

They were clearly headed towards Margeaux and Sonny.

If EH came on the show thinking that her character was going to permanently break up Sonny and Carly, she must not have watched the show very long

Tamara Braun may or may not return, but you can bet her character Kim will. With baby Franco in tow.

Does anybody doubt this?

R143

I don't see TB or Kim ever returning.

If the show is still ticking 15 years from now the bastard spawn will suddenly show up on Franco's doorstep, sassy, needy and full of ART! just waiting to be nurtured.

TB’s exit interview basically threw out any notion that she’d ever return. Frank screwed her over. She should’ve been brought back as Carly.

Today's flashback episode reminded me of a few things. In the first place, Anthony Geary could actually still turn in good performances when provided a good script/fascinating story. Second I desperately miss Ron Carlivati. He could be excessive at times, but he comprehended how to mine the history of the show. Without it feeling forced. Thirdly Laura Wright should absolutely wear her hair shorter. She looked better as Lena than she has in years.

^^^

People can criticize Geary for many things but the man could act. He has deserved every Emmy he's won. Yesterday's episode really was fantastic TV and something that was mined from history.

LW had super short hair at one point during GL and it looked chic & fabulous on her. She looks like a dowdy soccer mom now.

Bring TB back as Carly!!! The real Carly.

I think NLG tweet was about the abuse TB dealt with her first round as Carly. With tptb that didn’t value her or other female actresses in contrast to male counterparts. I guess Mo talks about bullying her on GH set in his book.

It annoys me how Franco constantly complains about how expensive being with Elizabeth is because she has kids. Why marry someone with kids if that bothers you?

It annoys me that Liz is broke yet again. She’s a surgical nurse and the one character consistently shown at work. Is this the only thing they can come up with for Becky Herbst?

R151 When it comes to Liz's money problems, I have to ask are Lucky and Jason deadbeat dads? Also, does GH pay well below the norm to their nurses? The average RN with 10-19 years experience can typically expect hourly pay of $33.36, in the US, according to payscale.com. The average salary for an Art Therapist, like Franco, realistically is between 36 and 62,000/year. Between their salaries and child support, it is foolish to depict them as having money problems.

R150

I don't see him "complaining" about how expensive it is. I see him as wanting to provide for her kids which is more than any other man has, He doesn't resent the kids or their cost at all.

This is all a contrived re-write because TIIC either can't remember what they wrote or are creatively bankrupt. We saw on screen that Franco received a shit ton of money after he settled the claims against him and sold the rest of his collection. Scott brought the check to Franco/Liz's home. We saw on screen where Franco paid for Kiki's medical school, where he set up college funds to pay for each of the boys, he personally funded the art therapy department and he set up funding for a women's shelter.

Now they want us to swallow that they have money issues? Bullsjit.

R152

Dialogue on screen had Liz says she gets no child support from Lucky.

R152 Cameron should also be entitled to Social Security survivor's benefits.

R153 I hate how they ruined the character of Lucky. He could be selfish and had a dark side, but I can't believe he would not provide for his son. R154 Yep, I forgot that one.

So Laura raised a piece of shit deadbeat dad. She must be so proud.

Who was Cam's father?

Cam's father was Zander Smith, who committed suicide by cop.

R153 The show is playing it like he and Liz are struggling, but yeah, they shouldn't be.

Also, they did this plotline once when Liz and Lucky were together, but not married. Liz agreed to be a surrogate for Lax and Courtney because her and Lucky were having money problems that made no sense then either.

R152 Once, when Elizabeth went to Diane for legal advice, she [Diane] said that Jason's retainer covered Elizabeth and her kids. You'd think it he would do that, he would also pay child support!

Lucky is supposedly now a deadbeat dad and why doesn't Elizabeth ever ask Jason for child support money?

R159 Exactly, it just doesn't make sense. Not to mention that the grandmothers Monica and Laura, would be sitting her down and saying, "look if my worthless son isn't paying for my grandchild, I have more than enough to chip in." Even if Liz is too stupid to take the money, Monica and Laura, when she was on the board, could and would pull some strings to make sure Elizabeth got a great paycheck from GH, considering that not only is she their grandchild's mother, but she is the grandchild of Steve and Audrey Hardy.

Jason offered Liz money in a trust set in Emily’s name when they broke up but she declined. I refuse to believe he’s never given her any money for Jake though. That would be out of character for Jason. But R153 is correct - they just can’t remember what they wrote. No way should Friz be having money problems. At least show us why onscreen. Have Franco draining their accounts or something. Anything to make him more interesting than Mr. Mom.

Thanks R157. I didn't watch in the Zander days.

The co-HW Dan O'Conner gave an interview to SOD recently. He said he liked writing Franco/Liz as the have nots. He said everyone else in PC is of means and he liked making them to blue collar couple.

IMO it would make more sense to make LuLu the have not. Her husband was a cop who is now unemployed & hospitalized. She has had a very spotty job history who is now trying to live on the salary of a reporter.

Liz/Franco don't have to be wealthy a la the Qs but they definitely should be comfortable.

R164 You forget that Lulu owns The Haunted Star.

Yes but poor Lulu, she doesn't even have Luke's phone number. Robert had to have the Q's call Tracy to get it.

Unless Franco is planning an art robbery , a bank heist or an embezzlement from the hospital, his and Elizabeth's money woes are worthless talking points. Nobody has to turn tricks, sell drugs or strip to pay the rent on soaps anymore.

Anybody remember the shithole Jesse and Jenny lived in when they ran off to NYC on AMC? I think that would've been considered "relatable".

If Sam isn’t sitting around on her ass dreaming of Jason’s dick then she’s going around town barking at people. I’d say let her money problems but she’s been living off Jason since she sat her pregnant ass on that couch in his PH.

Basically Liz is the Nurse Jesse of the show. She never gets a man, pined away after one for years, then when she gets one he's psycho and nuts. She constantly has a cloud of doom over her head. The only thing she's missing is the signature sweater and the Nurse's cap.

Which I don’t understand because both Becky and Liz have a large following but she’s always, always brushed aside with lackluster writing. It’s infuriating to watch as a Liz and Becky fan.

R169 Well, she has played Nurse Jessie in flashbacks.

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Yeah the show had Liz making bad choices with me thru the years. Lucky was an absolute dick after the fire. Ric loved her but couldn't stop his vendetta against Sonny. Jason never loved her enough to put down his gun or be a dad. He always loved Sam way more. Franco may have been coo coo in the past but he's loved her enough to truly be committed to only her & to truly love those kids. That's more than any man has ever done.

It's been nice to see Liz in a committed relationship with a man who adores her but TIIC need to write them something that isn't ludicrous like this money shit & being fodder for Nik/Ava.

R172 I agree, concerning Franco. Yes, he has done horrible things, but when it comes to Liz he has treated her better than any of the other men she has been with.

Jake should absolutely have Quartermaine shares.

Franco is a jealous ass. He was awful to her at the beginning of their relationship.

Are these "have-nots" writers the same ones who had Jordan and Curtis fret over medical bills that were from an accident that was 100% caused by one of the richest men in town?

R176 Not to mention she is the Police Chief. Her medical insurance would be top of the line.

Plus she was injured while working in the line of duty. PC needs a better Police Union

R178 Since Sonny, the mob godfather, doesn't do any of the other things mobsters do to make money, he must be controlling the local police and nursing unions. He is stealing the dues and taking bribes from employers.

[quote]Since Sonny, the mob godfather, doesn't do any of the other things mobsters do to make money, he must be controlling the local police and nursing unions. He is stealing the dues and taking bribes from employers.

But this show won't let Sonny be a mobster. How many times have people asked what does Sonny traffic in? Girls, drugs, guns, counterfeiting, loan sharking or something else or all of it? Having Sonny be tied up in union activities would be an interesting storyline. But for some reason the mobster can't be the bad guy, they have to keep bringing other mobsters who "worse" than Sonny.

And don't get me started on that Jason mess.

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It is impossible to make anything about Sonny about interesting. The character is so played out & it is beyond painful to watch Mo try and act. The stammering. His pitiful attempt at trying to cry.. His tics.

That is what causes Sonny to be such a dull character, he is obviously prosperous, so he must be involved in something. Yet the show has established that he will not traffic drugs or girls, which are primary sources of cash for the real mob. And, they would never let him be a gunrunner. So what exactly is he "importing" and "exporting," counterfeit sneakers?

Conceivably that is why the authorities can never apprehend him, he is just pretending to be a mobster.

He’s a “good bad guy” yet Carly continues to use his name while threatening people.

How did they write off that stuff with Karen from back in the day? He was clearly running girls back then.

R184 I think they just explained it away as he was working for Frank Smith at the time and when he took over the organization he stopped it.

I think they write Sonny as a wimp. WTF kind of mobster wouldn't have had Nelle killed by now or other people that are so dangerous to his family and I mean his real family, not even a mob family. I'd have more respect for Sonny if he had the bitch wacked.

Exactly, if MB is so insistent that his character be written as good and TPTB are insistent that he be kept on the show, have Sonny’s “good” law abiding twin come to town and Sonny go away. It is a soap so the audience would buy that better than a mobster who doesn’t do anything seedy. Right now Sonny’s character is like if Susan Lucci had insisted that Erica Kane be a man eater who never has sex before marriage.

Part of nuAudrey’s storyline aside from the triangle with Monica will be a huge loan to Liz. Shearoun Steigele, the actress who will play Audrey March (Hardy), is elated for the scenes.

Wasn't Sonny shown onscreen giving Karen drugs?

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Yes, Sonny was giving Karen drugs. He also slept with her while she was drugged & unable to give consent. Probably his most heinous act towards her was telling her she enjoyed being sexually molested by her step father. They should've let Scotty kill him & we'd have been spared 2 decades of that SOB.

Sonny was involved with the dockworkers' union back in the 1990s. There was some storyline where Carly accidentally called a strike. When Sonny ran his first club, there were prostitutes, but he was never their pimp. Mike's old girlfriend - the blonde ex-prostitute (Tammy?) - said that Sonny never made them do anything, he just turned a blind eye. And after Karen's addiction, Sonny vowed to never have anything to do with drugs again.

Putting aside Sonny's legal investments, Sonny's primary business appears to have been illegal gambling - which is funny, because thanks to the Supreme Court's ruling on sports betting, most of Sonny's business would be legitimate now, as long as he took out the appropriate licenses. At one point, Sonny described his business to Zander, I forget how he phrased it but it included money laundering. Since we know that Sonny was involved with the Five Families, presumably he was money laundering with his partners. As for the illegal products that Sonny ran, we don't know what they were, but it could have been stuff like Cuban cigars, cigarettes, that kind of thing. For my own amusement, I always presumed that what Sonny ran was unpasteurized milk - apparently there's an underground market for that kind of thing.

The PCPD investigated Sonny's treatment of Karen and he was charged with something like Corruption of a Minor, which had no jail time. Years later he cut some deal with the FBI, and Alexis said that he had immunity for all crimes prior to that date. She made a point of telling Roy that he didn't have the same deal.

GH could never do a Karen storyline these days. That was good stuff.

We should do a thread about soap stories from the past that you couldn't do today.

Maxie being pregnant is so ridiculous. Everything about Peter should be exposed leading to his imprisonment. Then Maxie should opt for an abortion.

She would have many reasons: Peter being the dad, just landing her dream job that is going to take up much more time, already being a distant mom to Georgie.

The last abortion was 16 y/o LuLu. This would be a grown ass woman choosing because of her personal/professional life.

[quote] already being a distant mom to Georgie.

That is why she wouldn't. She wants to make up for her past mistakes by being a good mother to James and any other children she might have.

The pregnancy plot was rumored to be changed. Supposedly KStorms was called in last minute to film those scenes.

If Maxie is pregnant, the soapy thing is for Peter's crimes to be exposed and the revelation would cause her to miscarry.

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It's 2020. Having a miscarriage is so anachronistic. Maxie should & would opt for an abortion.

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Having an abortion doesn't make you a bad mother.

R199 People still have miscarriages all the time. They have not disappeared. Around 1 million miscarriages are reported in the US every year. That isn't counting the women who miscarry without medical care.

No one SHOULD opt for an abortion. Women can choose to have one, but there is no one who should. Should indicates obligation, duty, or correctness. No woman is obligated by duty or correctness to chose to terminate a pregnancy. That is a problem with so many activists today, many are no longer "pro-choice" they are pro-abortion. They want to control people as much as the anti-abortion ones do. One wants everyone to have an abortion and the other one wants no one to have one.

Also, I didn't say that an abortion would make her a bad mother, only that a woman with her history would be less likely to make that choice because she would want more children to make up for her previous mistakes.

I did not know, until surfing Wikipedia today, that in real life Nurse Jessie was married to Jesus! Well almost, Emily McLaughlin married Jeffrey Hunter three months before his death.

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Climb down off the cross, SJW. We are discussing soap story for fuck's sake.

The topic was stories the soaps no longer do. Case in point: abortion. There hasn't been one since LuLu was 16. Maxie having an abortion would make perfect sense if GH had any balls left. Shit, they never should have even made her pregnant with the grossly received Peter. They need to be crafting a Who Killed Peter story (huge number of suspects) instead of another pregnancy for Maxie.

R202 What upset me was erroneously calling miscarriages anachronistic. I know people who have suffered from them, they are not anachronistic, they still happen every day. What is really anachronistic is an adult educated well-off women like Maxie having an unwanted/unplanned pregnancy, in the first place. She is not the sort of person for whom birth control is out of reach.

It's almost a relief to get a break from this show. No more having to force yourself to get through an episode.

Really hope they come back from this break inspired, but who am I kidding?

I want to believe they were building up to a Who Killed Peter story and don't even mind if they repeated the Maxie's husband dies while she's pregnant story again BUT I think it's wishful thinking. More likely they once again tried to write Parking Lot Peter off and once again LW snarled about it and they backed off and had to turn it into a Peter is a changed man and redeemed due to being a father story. Ugh.

If the show wants to write for poor people, let Sonny and Carly's lose all their assets when the government seizes everything from the gruesome twosome due to the mob war with Cyrus . At least that would be a somewhat interesting and unexpected story line.

R203

You must be a frau. Jesus, why are you even here?

Calling miscarriages "anachronistic" was in terms of soap opera tropes. Of course people have miscarriages.

Slide off to a frau soap board.

R207 If they still happen, they are not anachronistic. By your logic abortion stories would be anachronistic because they have been done for decades.

I'm not a "frau" I just happen to know couples that have suffered from miscarriages, including one couple who suffered multiple ones while trying to have a child. It is a sad and heart wrenching experience for them and people who care about them.

R206 Mo and LW would likely never go for that.

People are always calling for Frank's head, but if the talent has sway about storylines (R209), that's even worse. They should just report to work and try their best to act.

Soaps will have a character consider abortion, but it has been very rare for characters to actually go through with it. The drama of an unwanted pregnancy can fuel a show for quite some time. It's just the soapier option.

If you read the soap history books, there was a point in the 70s when several shows had abortion stories, but this was post Roe and the country wasn't as uptight about certain things as we are now. From the 80s on, in the rare instances when abortion was chosen, there was always major consequences for the act afterwards.

It's more clean for a writer to go the miscarriage route than the abortion route. It's just a drawback of network television and the conservative soap opera audience.

For the last 2 pregnancies, there were scenes where Maxie was warned that she's at high risk due to her heart transplant. Will they even bother mentioning this to her again this time and have her ignore medical advice again?

She's already raising one grandchild of Faison. Guess raising 2 won't bother her. Looks like she'll be single handedly resurrecting the Faison legacy herself.

IDGAF about fat Maxie or over exposed Peter. Both need to go.

R212 It will either be a scare or she will miscarry. I don't think they will have her actually have another baby. Especially, since I'm almost certain that Molly will end up pregnant and not know who the father is. Now, she is a character who would most certainly choose an abortion, but it will cause a rift between her and TJ, especially if he thinks it is his baby.

R210 Frank is worse because he allows it to happen.

I think it is wrong that they let the actors have so much control over their storylines, but the network probably figures it is a cheaper alternative to paying them more.

Actors dictating the show is the reason why it’s in its current state. And it’s only CERTAIN actors. MB literally got the Michael Q story dropped. KeMo makes demands and brings absolutely nothing to the show. LW refuses to be in a pairing with WR but throws a fit when they try to drop him. But let Rebecca Herbst go in and demand a story or pairing and Frank would laugh in her face or get another pink slip ready.

Didn't NLG request the Cassadine/Watch story be dropped? That would have been far more interesting than her relationship misadventures.

I bet LW also dictates who WR can be paired with, doubt she wants him with anyone young, attractive, slim and who he has chemistry with. KSt is safe.

Frank is a coward for continuing to allow actors to dictate storyline and who remains on cast.

But lets not forget it was JFP and Brian Frons who allowed that to start in the first place.

It's not just on GH that this happens. Kristen Alfonso who plays Hope on Days is said to have demanded that her character not be called or directly referred to as Grandmother on Days even with her grandchild onscreen. Eric Braeden over on Y&R is said to have demanded that his character Victor almost always be given the last word in any conversation he has. It's also been rumored that Mo has had a certain level of control over the stories GH does for the Michael character and that he helps tanks ones that he doesn't like.

R209 I don't get that. As actors, you think that they'd want a juicy storyline!

Some soap actors have story approval written into their contracts. Tony Geary, in later years, chose story approval over pay raises. GH is more guilty of this than any other soap. I wouldn't consider not wanting to be called Grandma because of out of control SORASing the same as killing a storyline. Even though KA has a history of getting actors she didn't like fired.

R218 NLG famously doesn't like playing Cassadine related stuff.

R223 Then why did she accept a role as a Cassadine?

Was she always supposed to a Cassadine? Wasn't that a retcon?

She was brought to Port Charles by Stefan Cassadine, with whom she had a close bond. And, Luke then helps her discover that she is in fact Natasha Cassadine. So no, I don't think it was a retcon. It was pretty clear from the beginning she would be in Cassadine stories.

Being a Cassadine is the only thing interesting about Alexis these days. She hasn’t had good writing in years.

Thanks R226.

R226 She thought she was his cousin and they grew up together. Luke later found out that they were related. The plotline was obvious - I knew when she was introduced she would end up being Stefan's sister.

R224 No idea. She gave an interview to one of the soap mags years ago where she said that "nobody's interested in the Cassadine's."

Wrong, Nancy!

There is a good reason they are actors and not writers. They need to stay in their lane.

Exactly how far did Frank manage to stretch the new episodes once the lockdown started? I know we got two extra weeks thanks to the Flashback Fridays and another week or so thanks to padding them with flashbacks.

But on the new episode that aired on Wednesday, May 20, Ava presented Franco with a $15,000 check for her portrait. That check was dated April 23.

If these conceited assholes don't like their story lines then someone should tell them to hit the road. Does anyone believe Laura Wright is bringing in viewers? Bet there are plenty of actresses willing to step into a role like that. Hell, if Maurice Benard can't get along with the writers, inform him he will be part of a new story called... Who Killed Sonny! At this point what does GH have to lose?

[quote] if Maurice Benard can't get along with the writers, inform him he will be part of a new story called... Who Killed Sonny! At this point what does GH have to lose?

Thousands and thousands of viewers. Maurice is hugely popular with middle aged women. Especially those in the New York area. They would picket the studio and make protest calls for weeks. Might boycot the show. With rating so low, GH can't afford to alienate any viewers.

That's been the problem for the past 20 years for all the shows. They're scared of alienating any viewers, afraid of ratings going down.

It must be New York women, because I never see anyone near me that likes him anymore. I know a woman who used to like him, and she still says he is cute but boring.

This thread is about to come to an end, so here's the next one up:

R232 The checked was dated April 23, 2019! A few months ago there was a close up of some paperwork with “Quartermaine“ was spelled wrong. LOL.

If you are missing new episodes, I just discovered soaps.com is publishing fan fiction to tide us over. They posted one today, that would never happen on the actual show, Monica finally confronts Carly over AJ and Nelle.

Watching this week's Nurse's Ball has left me with a few questions

#1 Who did Sonny cheat on Olivia with?

#2 How the hell did we get so lucky to not have any Carly during this week?

#3 Where's Ava? Did KiKi come to PC before Ava? I don't remember that.

Anyone else hear that Tyler Christopher was arrested today?

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Details!

Soaps.com posted another new fan fiction for those missing new content. Julian and Lucas have a confrontation over Nelle.

Ingo showed his ass yet again regarding race in America.

I can not believe I ever wanted him back on GH.

He’s awful.

Chemistry-free CarSon week is up next.