Who will come out in 2020? Part 3

Froy

What we really want to know...........

Lukas Gage

J. August Richards formerly of "Angel". Currently playing a gay man in NBC's "Council of Dads".

jaugustrichards: Why I let the cast and crew of @nbccouncilofdads know that I’m gay...

“I knew that I could not portray this gay man honestly without letting you all know that I am a gay man myself.”

You non-paying whores are the just the worst. We had several hundred replies left in the previous thread, OP. If I saw you at my local bath house, I would crop dust as I passed your room.

Seriously R5. It doesn't help when no one links to the new thread in the other one

R6 How can I if it was paywalled? Can't you link to if you're subscribed?

Can't you pay the $2 a month and not be a cheapskate?

Do we know J. August Richards?

Good for J. August

DL had this information on Richards as far back as 2016.

[Quote] In terms of gay gossip, Seth is bisexual. He prefers bottoming with dudes and I've never heard of him being in a relationship with a dude, just hook ups and fuck buddies. David is a sex addict and therefore is heteroflexible and in his time didn't mind a pretty twink sucking him off no strings attached. I'm guessing Nick was the same while drunk (but thats just speculation on my part). J August Richards (Gunn) is gay but keeps it quiet. Alyson and Eliza have fooled around with girls. Tom Lenk and the guy who played Lorne (RIP) were openly gay.

^ That's cool

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Now if You'll Excuse Me! I have to invite Eugenia Sheppard and Suzie Knickerbocker to a luncheon benefit that I am throwing at the Bellagio where I am to deliver a keynote speech and receive an award from Mr. George Clooney himself.

Richard Madden

R3 Pretty sure he has talked about "sexuality being fluid" or some shit in a youtube video with his friend. Don't remember exactly what was said though.

Gage did say “It’s 2019; cuties are cuties” in a YouTube video with his (girl?)friend Claudia something-or another.

But I thought he was fully outed as a member of the “fully-LGBT“ cast of his Hulu slasher flick.

Every article and interview of that movie refers to every actor (except for the first one who dies) as a gay actor. R17

Froylan Gutierrez

Will he take Madden out of the closet with him?

If Brandon couldn't r20 then I don't think Froy will.

New Madden and Froy thread

Looks like Pedro may be on his way .. he liked this photo that’s his friend posted who also had rumors.

R23, Pedro has liked gay stuff for years, so this doesn’t signal anything new to me. But I hope you’re right.

One of the actors who appeared on the terrible American remake of Spanish tv show Fisica o Quimica. I guess is now out of the closet.

(R23) yea I hope Pedro does. But not sure if he will because he’s the Mandalorian.

Bump

R25 Who? We need a name.

GB Olympic diver Ross Haslam has been on my radar for a few years: never had a gf, seems to be best friends with girls, etc.

He just posted his cock outline for the gram. So maybe he’s a top. Maybe.

Has French ice dancer Guillaume Cizeron ever publicly come out before?

if he's an ice dancer then it wasn't probably much of a shock that he's gay

I don't recognize a single one of these "names."

Another female actress comes out as bi. But of course we'll never see her date a woman.

Whoops. Female actress? Wow, redundant

we need more gay male celebs to come out for Pride Month

R35 Tbh, I really don't see that happening much, if at all, this Pride Month given what's currently going on.

Senator Lindsey "Lady G" Graham is now an even-money bet!

Justice Smith

The Republican Party.

Pres. Dump from his bunker.

R38 Good for him, but of course he comes out as queer and not gay.

(R38) good for him! I remember him in Jurassic World 2. Didn’t know he was gay, also didn’t know he was from Canada lol.

I actually think we may see a few people come out this month. They may be inspired.

X-men twink Ben Hardy follows Best of Grindr on IG.

Welcome to the family, you sexy little fuck.

He's not even following very many accounts, so he's not really hiding it R43

r43 Best_of_Grindr is a popular account followed mostly by gay men but also by other people. Mark Ronson also follows it. Dont think it proves or disproves anything.

That doesn't prove that Mark Ronson is straight

The lovely Corey Fogelmanis, of “Girl Meets World” and “Ma” fame came out. As queer.

Based on my theory last year, I guess angry New England midget Gianni Paolo may actually straight, then. Sigh.

*may actually BE straight

[Quote] Based on my theory last year, I guess angry New England midget Gianni Paolo may actually straight, then. Sigh.

What was your theory? That Corey wasn't family?

R47 Not really a shock. Though another young guy who can't utter the word gay.

[Quote] Not really a shock.

Do you hope for a shock?

R47 The comments on his Instagram post for it are interesting. A few from his former costars and other possible closet cases (like Griffin Gluck). Also a bit of confusion what he means by Q (or queer).

Richard Madden

Thanks for adding that R53. Very valuable input.

One of Ricky Martin's fuck buddies has come out.

Short video with subtitles.

^^He's cute!

I shall not!

Possibly one of the Love Vctor guys.

R43, Ben Hardy doesn’t follow much in the way of gay celebrities or hot guys. He also follows lots of “woke” type accounts like BLM, No White Saviors, etc.

Best of Grindr is more of a comedy account, not an account that shows sexy guys regularly. It’s not much of a sign of gayness if he follows it, but more likely a sign of wokeness.

Pablo is hot. let's here more about him.

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[Quote] Best of Grindr is more of a comedy account, not an account that shows sexy guys regularly. It’s not much of a sign of gayness if he follows it, but more likely a sign of wokeness.

That makes no sense. Woke is about race, not sexuality.

R63, woke is also about feminism and LGBT rights.

Richard Madden will come out on his birthday. He will announce that he got Froy pregnant.

Kevin Aponte is out.

What about Danilo Carrera?

R65 not going to happen. Froy will come out after Madden dumps him.

Froy will come out as transracial.

Miles Heizer? Still technically closeted/not out to the public and still hasn't acknowledged his relationship with Connor Jessup. Strange!

Commenting on the IG post your boyfriend made to you on Valentine's day ISN'T addressing your relationship status? Gurl...

r66/r67 These Latin Men are sexy.

R71 I meant on his platform. You'd never know they were dating from just following Miles, he hasn't acknowledged Connor on his IG as his boyfriend to my knowledge.

Miles has yet to comment on his sexuality and isn't doing any press for his role on 13 Reasons Why where he was given a gay story arc. His on screen boyfriends on the other hand are - lol! And it's even Pride Month on top of it. I wonder what his deal is.

[Quote] Miles has yet to comment on his sexuality and isn't doing any press for his role on 13 Reasons Why where he was given a gay story arc. His on screen boyfriends on the other hand are - lol! And it's even Pride Month on top of it. I wonder what his deal is.

The Valentine's day post was reported around the world in the media. There's nothing to lol about. He's out.

R74 Out as what? He has to claim a label on his own, Connor can't do that for him. Press can't call him gay until he actually comes out - which he hasn't yet.

[Quote] Out as what?

Out as a lampshade, Rose.

[Quote] He has to claim a label

No he doesn't. He has a boyfriend whom he acknowledges publicly. He doesn't need to clarify anything.

[quote]whom he acknowledges publicly

Ah yes, the universal proclamation of love - a green heart emoji as a comment. Has Miles acknowledged Connor as his boyfriend on HIS platform in any way? He's the one with the larger social media following.

[Quote] He's the one with the larger social media following.

I think the various media outlets that covered Miles and Connor's relationship declaration have a rather large following, don't you? Or do you think Connor is Miles dirty little secret?

When did Miles come out? No one can do that for him for fuck's sake. It will never be encyclopedic knowledge (on Wiki and such) until he explicitly comes out. Which is why Connor is listed as a gay actor and Miles isn't. An entry of them dating (sourcing Connor's Valentine's post or New York Times article where he mentioned their relationship) wouldn't be allowed because it falls under "outing" someone who isn't out.

[quote]A living person may be categorized and identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) only if they themselves publicly identify as such.

[Quote] When did Miles come out?

When he consented for his boyfriend to talk about their relationship on his press tour for "Locke & Key." The Valentine's Day post followed around that time.

Are you seriously trying to argue that someone who does such a thing is closeted? Do people consider Connor a liar? Is that what you're arguing?

miles publicly identifies as gay/confirmed his relationship because he left a heart emoji...?

[Quote] confirmed his relationship because he left a heart emoji...?

The same heart emoji in Connor's post:

[Quote] I’m late but I love you, you’re good, you make me better, happy v+1 day 💚

I realize you may be aged in wood but we live in the social media age. Connor made a romantic public post. And Miles responded publicly. There's really nothing more to say.

R67 no he hasn't and I don't think he will.

Nolan Gould

Will Miles come out for Connor's birthday perhaps?

Julian Morris

Hopefully a hot guy.

[quote]Best of Grindr is more of a comedy account, not an account that shows sexy guys regularly. It’s not much of a sign of gayness if he follows it, but more likely a sign of wokeness.

Honestly, how can someone be this stupid?

This Pride month has been disappointing, to say the least. Nobody famous has come out so far in June.

Pablo Alboran is young and sells millions of albums.

R91 You're right, I forgot about him. No famous actors have come out though.

Been catching up on that new DCTV show Stargirl. Is there anything known about Cameron Gellman and/or Hunter Sansone??

I still think Gabriel Mann is gay

Yes, we’ve mentioned him quite a few times over the years, R94.

[quote]This Pride month has been disappointing, to say the least. Nobody famous has come out so far in June.

Nobody very famous ever comes out. Just B- and C-listers; this June hasn't been any worse than most previous Junes.

R93 Not sure, but I guess Gellman just did an interview for Stargirl and listed his celebrity crush as Donald Glove, so take that as you will....

Glover, my bad.

On the /r/bisexual subreddit, some users said they believe Donald Glover is bisexual because of a joke he made. I can't tell very well what the joke was; it seemed to be something about being torn about STDs and pregnancies as sexual risks. Users said this is a typical concern for bisexual men.

At least he didn't name Mel Gibson as his crush.

R7 I get Brandon Flynn type vibes from Cameron Gellman based on his Instagram.

Whoops, should've been R97

I guess both Cameron Gellman and Hunter Sansone liked some homoerotic fan art of their Stargirl characters on Instagram, and now some fans are convinced there is going to be a gay romance between Hourman and Icicle Jr. I doubt it will happen, although there is a gay version of Icicle in the comics so you never know.

Who is Cameron Gellman?

An actor on a new CW show.

If you’re not following celeb twinks, what are you even doing?

[Quote] what are you even doing?

Daddies.

Wait, didn't Gellman play a gay love interest in that Heather's reboot??

Former pro football (soccer) player Thomas Beattie came out

Does Justice Smith coming out not count?

That was a good coming out, except for the fact that it was as queer instead of gay. R110

R110 that was also already discussed up thread

R103 Really? I kind of assumed they were setting up a romance between Icicle and Stargirl. But maybe its a smokescreen for the gay reveal.

Man, I hope they have a gay reveal on that show.

R114 I agree, and I'm thinking it could be Icicle Jr, despite the Stargirl romance hints. I looked up the Icicle comics character and originally, he was the average hetero, but after DC Comics did their New 52 reboot, he was reimagined as a gay supervillain. So could this play out on the show?

I tried looking for anything about that R115 and this was the only thing I could find that made any reference. I guess it really depends on which version of Icicle Jr they go with.

Remember, this is Berlanti and he doesn't exactly like putting gay men in his DC shows.

I wondered why I'd never heard his name. Beattie was a minor footballer, a la Robbie Rogers.

Has Vladimir Burlakov come out yet?

R116: Why people say that all the time? Yes, he is not particularly good at gay storylines, but he hires a lot of gay actors.

And you can be more A list than Pablo Alboran in Spain. He is simply the most popular singer here and he has been for 10 years

R116 Personally, I think DC never did much with the Icicle gay reveal because that was around the time Ice Man was coming out of the closet, and DC didn't want to make it look like they were copying Marvel. You're half right about Berlanti, but I think Johns has more pull on this show. Like you said, it depends on the creative direction.

Pierson Fode

R121 Didn't he date Victoria Justice 5 years ago?

Frankly i don't think people who beard are the perfect candidates for a coming out

[Quote] Frankly i don't think people who beard are the perfect candidates for a coming out

I mean...

R123 If we have to wait as many years maybe we'll not watch that coming out

R120 Johns has a 50/50 record with LGBTQ characters, but a gay character did play a small but crucial role in Johns recent comic series Doomsday Clock, so anything is possible. It would be interesting to see some queer twist on one of the Stargirl characters. Maybe Hourman will turn out to be gay.....

R93 I've been noticing a bunch of "chummy" pics of Gellman and Sansone online. Are they just friends or.....

Connor Jessup posted his beautiful coming out post one year ago today:

NOT ME. I want to be the next Bond.

I already said in my pity party IG rant from Hawaii that 'I'm not a closet-homosexual....but a normal guy'.

Ben Aldridge.

Spencer Brown

Taylor Schilling has come out and Paris Jackson is discussing her sexuality.

Taylor Schilling didn't come out. She's been out for years. She merely announced her new girlfriend - a very odd looking woman, by the way.

Paris Jackson "discussing her sexuality" like she was a kid on the brink of puberty, just proves that she's straight. If she could be anything else, she'd just say it since she's dying to not be seen as just a straight girl.

I wouldn't be so sure. Paris Jackson did a pap walk with that Trevor Donovan guy. It was weird. A mutual lavender pap walk?

R132 Paris says that the public only knows about 3 men she has dated but not about everyone else she has dated or fucked. Paris also says that she didn't think she would end up currently with a man because she thought she would marry a woman because she has dated and fucked more women than men. She says that she calls herself gay and doesn't consider herself bisexual and admits that she once had a relationship with a trans man. Paris says that when she first came out to someone in her family they didn't believe her at first and says she believes that her father picked up on that she was gay.

r134 In sum: "I've been with tons of women, but nobody has ever seen with one though I'm dying to be seen as anything but a straight girl."

Honestly, that sounds like a child's lie. It's also the kind of thing that "bi" teen girls say all the time on TikTok and Reddit when they're desperate to buttress their queer cred but have nothing to show for it: "I'm like 99.999999% lesbian, but I just so happen to be with a guy now, the only guy I think is cute." Sure, Jan.

Well, that's pretty common in bisexual singers. A lesbo chic video but everyone they date are men and in some cases years later (Jessie J, Nicky Minaj) they even retract about being bi

What your Sure, Jan-ning fails to account for is that homophobia also affects women - and in this context, women in the public eye. Celebrities know that being seen with a member of the opposite sex is good for business. It has never been the case that being seen with a same sex partner is good for business. Still, Kristen Stewart, Richard Madden etc. have perservered.

Jessie J had girlfriends as far back as her teens. The re-closeting was nothing to do with being "gay for attention."

R138 I don't care the reason she did what she did but it was quite harmful for bisexual people. She basically skip the lesbian of herself and she said she was missinterpreted when she had years to explain herself

Definitely. What Jessie J has said is harmful but she's not straight.

r138 Uh huh, sure.

Jessie J has a modest career. Paris Jackson has none. They both can afford to be seen with women, as they have little to lose. In fact, Paris has nothing. Miley Cyrus, Kristen Stewart, and Cara DeLevigne have much bigger careers than either of them, and both have been seen with women - the latter, all the time. In addition, if you're going to say something like, "I've been with soooo many women", or "I always thought I'd end up with a girl", or some such exhibitionist things, then I don't buy that you're scared that being seen with another woman is going to hurt your career.

Kristen Stewart's example proves that there's basically no professional risk for A-list young women to be photographed with a girlfriend by papz, so I don't buy that these B- and C-listers are scared of anything.

[Quote] Jessie J has a modest career. Paris Jackson has none. They both can afford to be seen with women, as they have little to lose.

I think the closet is an indignity. But the argument "you have no career, you have nothing to lose" isn't exactly persuasive.

[Quote] Miley Cyrus, Kristen Stewart, and Cara DeLevigne have much bigger careers than either of them, and both have been seen with women - the latter, all the time.

Doesn't Cara identify as bisexual, though?

[Quote] if you're going to say something like, "I've been with soooo many women", or "I always thought I'd end up with a girl", or some such exhibitionist things, then I don't buy that you're scared that being seen with another woman is going to hurt your career.

You've never encountered how gay/bi people edit and/or neuter themselves in straight company? How many pap walks has Richard Madden done with twinks? None of him kissing a twink, though. People in the public eye are acutely aware of the game they are playing.

To be fair Jesse J career started on a very big note. Her first album sold a lot in UK. After that she had some hits (some of them big like Bang bang) but she never became what was supposed to be after such big debut (not that rare case, there's several examples of that).

The truth is she is a great singer (even if her tone is quite standard and not personal)

R143 I think she now considers pansexual.

r142 Ask yourself this: why does no A-list man comes out - at least voluntarily? Like Kevin Spacey, they need to be dragged out of the closet by bigger circumstances, or they don't come out at all. The only men who come out of their own will are B- and C-listers, probably because they're under less pressure from agents or from themselves. Everyone understands that. It's weird that anyone would deny such an obvious pattern.

r143 So what? She dates women all the time and makes no secret about it; they kiss in front of papz and Cara is always posting their pictures on Instagram. What is preventing Paris from being seen with women if she's indeed been with so many of them and and if she really thought she'd end up with another girl?

[Quote] Ask yourself this: why does no A-list man comes out - at least voluntarily?

I don't need to ask myself that as the answer is obvious. But telling someone that they have no career, so there's no excuse is nothing more than a jab. Everyone wants acceptance. Why do you think the "Fleabag" actor came out as a member of the LGBTQIA+ community? He's nowhere near the A-List. I would say he came out as that because he feels it's a safer option. Fewer vaginas will dry up over his coming out.

[Quote] What is preventing Paris from being seen with women

You forget Paris is black.

Well, maybe he is not known in the USA but Pablo Alboran couldn't be more A list in Spain (and several other countries) and he came out all by himself.

For actors there's always the agents advice of "letting people know the less possible of yourself to the public" because it's good for your career which is the most homophobic pile of crap disguised as good advice you'll ever heard, because obviously, that only works if you are gay.

If you are straight (or ready to fake it) you'll parade your relationships (real and fake) for the consume of the masses (who seem to not have a problem knowing everything about your life without detriment of your career)

R140 or she just experimented in her youth You know, a hasbian or a LUG (lesbian until graduation). Many women that were with women when they were young call themselves straight now

Jessie J had no need to walk back her supposed bi-ness. If she was just scared that being seen with a girl would derail her career, she could just be one of those LGB people who, though out, are never seen with a same-sex partner. If she felt the need to walk it all back, then I'm inclined to believe her, because it's not like bi women have it so bad in showbiz today. All that her walk-back accomplished for her, was some negative coverage in papers like The Guardian, and perhaps the permanent animosity from the LGBT community in Britain.

What some people on here are failing to understand, is that this isn't just a Hollywood thing; in the "real world", too, bi women abandon their label, and go back to identifying as straight, in far higher rates than other LGB people. And it's not homophobia that causes that, otherwise nobody would be more likely to go back to the closet after being out than gay men, who are the group that suffers most from homophobia both in and outside of Hollywood. On the contrary, gay men are the LGB group most stable in its self-identification.

[Quote] Well, maybe he is not known in the USA but Pablo Alboran couldn't be more A list in Spain (and several other countries) and he came out all by himself.

We actually don't know the reason behind his coming out. He could have come out ahead of an expose. That does happen.

Pablo is also in his 30s. He probably never has to work again with the amount of money he has in the bank. He took his time to come out, as most people do.

[Quote] Jessie J had no need to walk back her supposed bi-ness

Didn't Jessie J compete on a Chinese talent show? I'd say she had her reasons to walk back her LGBT membership...

[Quote] it's not like bi women have it so bad in showbiz today.

Comments like the above take no account of individual variation.

[Quote] If she felt the need to walk it all back, then I'm inclined to believe her,

I bet you wouldn't if she were a man.

[Quote] And it's not homophobia that causes that, otherwise nobody would be more likely to go back to the closet after being out than gay men,

You fix one sink, you ain't a plumber but you suck one cock...

[Quote] On the contrary, gay men are the LGB group most stable in its self-identification

That's stands to reason. Men have the most to lose by identifying as gay.

I'm done with this conversation. LChatters have talked themselves into believing all women are bi or gay, and that there's NO SUCH THING as bi for attention. If not even these "bi" women admitting they were not actually bi will disabuse them of this idea (and Nicki Minaj and Jessie J are not even the most prominent examples of such walk-backs), then what can?

I'll just say this, Paris will keep being seen with guys, never with girls.

[Quote] Paris will keep being seen with guys, never with girls.

And that will be a good thing for your gay sisters.

R153: I don't know. Pablo is really well liked, he is not only successful he seems to be a really nice guy.

There were bad reactions to his coming out, from the usual everybody knows it to the ridiculous "he came out to gain fans and promote his albums" (which is fairly ridiculous because he never had a problem to sell records, to saying he was coy about his relationships with women implying he had in the past. The truth is he never bearded and most of his songs are gender neutral (which is not that easy in spanish), in fact i remember clearly only listening one time a song that was clearly about a women (which was quite dissapointing even if i was never his fan).

There was some speculation about past relationships, but the truth they only said one name (a dancer, who never said a thing about it, not in the past not now) and the usual Pelayo Díaz and Ricky Martin (which in my opinion it's cheap gossip because there's absolutely no proof about it).

If he came out because he is in a relationship and doesn't want to hide anymore only he knows that. Right now there's absolutely no news that he is dating anyone

r135, what guys was Paris seen with? That gay guy from 90210?

Is Trevor Donovan THAT desperate to make himself look straight?

Here I was thinking Miles would finally come out during pride month. The glass closet is even more pathetic than the closet, Miles!

It's not the glass closet if your relationship is on public record - what was it, The New York Times?

Definition of glass closet:

[quote]The state in which the sexual orientation or gender identity of an LGBTQ individual is known to many but not publicly acknowledged

Miles has never acknowledged being gay or being in a relationship with Connor. Connor can’t come out for him R165. Until he does, he’s still in the glass closet.

Oh come on, let's be serious, it's even in print that he is in a relationship with Connor Jessup.

Of course he had a great opportunity to talk about it in a casual way given that his character was in a relationship with another boy, but he is not doing any press

A person can’t be referred to being gay in print/press unless they’re actually out as gay. Connor is an out, gay man. Miles is not.

So Connor was dating a heterosexual?

[Quote] being in a relationship with Connor.

Did Miles not comment on the Valentine's Day post that went around the world?

Has Miles acknowledged Connor on his Instagram in any way? All I can find is a birthday post from last year, but you’d never guess it was a boyfriend post.

Maybe he doesn’t want everyone that follows him to know.

Didn't Matt Damon a few years ago say that gay actors shouldn't come out and talk about their sexuality.

I can't remember but I think I saw someone bring up Stargirl's Cameron Gellman at one point. He and costar Hunter Sansone have been posting a lot of Insta Stories together recently. Are they just friends or is something else going on???

Was this after quarantine began to ease up?

Has Oliver Jackson Cohen posted anything for Pride this year?

If he is still being considered for the Bond role he won't come out

Jackson Cohen has been making Pride posts for years now, on his Instastories like many "discreet" types.

R173 Wow I just checked Gellman's Instagram and you weren't kidding. They just posted a car lip synching video less then an hour ago.

Can someone post it to Youtube?

(R175) wait did I miss something Oliver Jackson Cohen is allegedly gay?

Was Sacchin Bhatt already out or not?

R181 I don't think he has come out yet.

r182 He did a video for Glaad saying he's gay for pride so that made me think he was already out due to the ease with which he addressed it.

I thought it was obvious Sachin was gay after doing this video with Michael Henry

According to the posts Betty Jackson is tagged in on Instagram, Oliver Jackson-Cohen's father died in January/February, so he hasn't really posted anything this year except a few Invisible Man promos in February and then a Black Lives Matter blackout square and a couple of Insta stories about that, plus one for father's day talking about being sad about his dad passing away. So maybe it's just been a rough year.

One of the daughters of one of former member of one of the Real Housewives franchises has come out.

Nonsense R153. There is no outing/expose practice in Spain media. Besides it was already an open secret for many people. And Pablo Alborán has no intention to ever quit making music. He is currently working on his next album ("a very special one") due the end of the year.

He explained his reasons in his coming out video to his fans. It is a beautiful coming out just as everything is beautiful about him: body, soul, his songs. He is one very lucky guy. It was not a big deal for him, just "to be a little bit happier than I already am". Maybe he doesn't any more want sneaky "why he doesn't have a GF" questions from journalists who very well know why. He may be writing gender specific songs for the next album. For its promotion, he may want to be more free in explaining his songs than before. Little things like these.

[quote] in fact i remember clearly only listening one time a song that was clearly about a women (which was quite dissapointing even if i was never his fan)

R161 Which one?

R186 This doesn't helps us much

R186 This little girl?

[Quote] So maybe it's just been a rough year.

That doesn't explain not making a Pride post. He does it every year.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R187 I think it was the single he released after Recuérdame, i don't remember the name of the song.

It's funny i found an El Mundo article (just days before the coming out) talking about how discreet he was, and talking about "totally unfounded rumours" about his sexual orientation.

I imagine the journalist saying "oh shit" a couple of days later

R187 The song was La escalera (third single from Terral just after Recuérdame) but reading the lyrics it's quite confusing because even it's clearly about an straight relationship part of the song is sang in third person

R190 I mean it kind of does. Dealing with a pandemic and your dad dying in the span of a couple of months might make a person not want to post much happy stuff.

Pride isn't just "happy," it's also about what's gone before and much of that wasn't "happy."

Has one of those twink looking power rangers come out yet?

Nico Greetham was a Power Ranger, wasn't he?

R195 If you are sad or depressed you are not for big declarations on instagram no matter how much you like the cause, it's as simple as that

He made a declaration for BLM, didn't he?

He made a blackout square with one hashtag. People yelled at him to add a link in his bio. He usually likes and interacts with comments on his posts but this time he just silently added the bio link. It was the first post he'd made in over 3 months. I guess that's a "big post" and he's a huge asshole now!

He's never made a "big post" for Pride, but he has made Pride posts. What's not clicking with you about that?

Yes R197 and he was also SYTYCD but he still hasn't come out yet.

Homos by any other name...

r203 speaking of that pic what's tea on Jared Murrilo?

Red blooded heterosexual, of course.

Keep the bangs, Jar.

R203, just a bunch of hetero dudes hanging out. No homo.

Some actor called Wil Traval came out a few weeks ago. He's so obscure, not even GayTimes, which scrapes the bottom of the barrel to find coming-outs, took note of it. I googled it, though, and his name was mentioned on DL before, including by someone who found him hot and was hoping he was gay.

R208 He came out as bisexual and is married to a woman.

Did Callum Blue ever come out after he was exposed for using gay hookup sites?

Not a huge shock since a few years ago he talked about exploring his sexuality, but WALK THE MOON lead singer Nicholas Petricca came out as bisexual

^^^ he'd look a lot better if he'd shaved

I can't believe with all the hot guys on Power Rangers in recent years none of them were gay.

What is Nico Greetham? Chopped liver?

Openly gay

....

The fuck is a Bad Bunny?

What is a r217?

R216 I read that article and I still have no idea what he's trying to say.

R219 Bad Bunny likes to be seem as a progressive and a feminist and all that jazz.

I suppose now it's turn to be ambigous about sexuality.

Anyway, coming outs are getting more and more complicated. I'm still trying to understand what the hell Lucas Hedges wanted to say in his coming out

When y'all were attending ACT UP meetings back in the day, did you think that public coming outs would become more about dissembling in the decades to come?

Is the guy who plays Buck on 911 gay? He has that gay tattoo and he sorta pings.

r222 Oliver Stark? No as far as I know he has a girlfriend. What tattoo are you talking about?

R222, he has been with his girlfriend since before he was famous. Moved from the U.K. to be with her so I suspect it might be a case of British not gay. But you never know.

R224 Generally having a girlfriend before being famous it's a sign of hetersexuality unless you are Hugh Jackman, for some reason people tend to ignore that on him

[Quote] Generally having a girlfriend before being famous it's a sign of hetersexuality

Teehee.

R226 Well, Richard is already dating boys, and the real rumours started when he dated Brandon (who is openly gay). Not exactly Jackman's case

There are many gay men who had girlfriends in high school or something like that. Nicholas Hamilton used to have a girlfriend, but he came out in June.

In june of what year? because i remember him going to red carpets with his boyfriend.

I think at least half of gay men are not ready to come out (in some cases even to themselves) on high school (and of course there are high schools that are nightmares where bullying is the norm and there are other ones a guy can go to prom with his boyfriend without any problem)

Armie Hammer

47 celebrities who came out as something this year so far

R231 “celebrity” is way too generous for most of those nobodies.

Neither Pride.com nor GayTimes are counting Nicholas Hamilton and Corey Fogelmanis.

Nicholas Hamilton was out at least last year, he went to the It premiere with his boyfriend.

And Fogelmanis had a Lucas Hedges type of coming out, it's difficult to know if they are coming out or not when they are so unclear (and even if you guess they are coming out it's difficult to know as what)

r234 Someone is officially out when he VERBALLY comes out. Just going out with a boyfriend isn't coming-out, otherwise Madden would be considered out, and Hamilton wouldn't have been included in last year's lists, which he wasn't.

And Fogelmanis clearly said he was queer. There was nothing vague about it, you're being tiresome.

R235 Sorry but that's incredibly stupid. Hamilton was to a red carpet holding hands with his boyfriend, not the Madden situation at all.

And queer means a lot of different thing to a lot of different people. You have the 1975 that he says the find some twinks attractive but he will never date or have sex with a guy, sorry but you are straight no matter how you want to call yourself

Fogelmanis might have been skipped because it’s so recent and he’s so minor.

r236 Coming out is a verbal statement, you idiot. Going with a man to a party is not coming out. Ashley Benson kissed Cara Delevigne to the paparazzi also last year, and even so she was still not included in GayTimes' list. And Hamilton was NOT even holding his boyfriend's hand. People were still debating whether he was gay until a video appeared where he was in a room full of people, and talked about his boyfriend.

Fogelmanis has 3 million followers on Instagram. There are much smaller names on those lists.

Hamilton has gone further than showing up with his boyfriend. He used the words "my boyfriend" on a webstream. He also made some social media videos about being turned away from donating blood because of his sexuality. He's nothing like Madden.

Still missing the point...

R235: Madden is in the glass closet

R240 What point? He went with his boyfriend to the big premier of a big budget film. He didn't hide him, he was with him, he held hands with him, and he talked about his boyfriend. And of course there are a lot of pics of both on his instagram. He was not in the closet.

But supposedly he is not openly gay because he didn't say i'm gay, queer or my sexuality is on the spectrum (some of those cases who you never watch with a same sex partner but you have to believe when they say it till they retract some years later like Nicky Minaj).

Nicholas called himself a queer man in an Instagram story when he tried to donate blood earlier this year

[quote]he held hands with him

No, he didn't. I've seen the pictures, and while the way they stood next to each other indicated they could be a couple, there was no hand-holding, as you can see below. So, he could still deny that they were a couple if he wanted to. This is not very different from Madden hanging out with an out gay guy, Brandon Flynn, with a hand placed on his neck in front of the paparazzi. Madden knew full well pictures would be taken and rumors would be spread. He knew that, to many of his and Brandon's fans, they were outing themselves as a couple. But Madden still had plausible deniability. What he did is obvious, but it was not an explicit statement.

[quote]and he talked about his boyfriend.

He talked about his boyfriend on a different occasion, a webstream, as you said before.

The latter arguably counts as a coming-out - but as what? "Having a boyfriend" is not a sexual orientation. "I can't donate blood" isn't a sexual orientation, either. To the public, it is clear what they meant, but these gay media outlets need a clearer statement if they don't want to be accused of outing celebrities.

He only came out properly June this year, when he strangely took it upon himself to speak on behalf of the LGBT community or something to that effect, in order to support the BLM protests. So he should be included on these lists now, which, for some odd reason, has not happened yet.

Having a boyfriend says a lot more than saying you are queer, sexually fluid or your sexuality is on the spectrum.

At least says you date your same sex something the other ways to come out don't say

The visual is certainly more concrete but if a guy says he's queer, that will be taken as he's into guys. The fleabag actor who came out as a member of "the community"... nobody is thinking he likes regular girls and girls with buzzcuts. The mind automatically goes to cock.

R246 We have plenty of examples (specially women) who were never seen with a same sex partner after coming out as queer

And i think we'll see more and more examples of that if you receive criticism if you play a gay role being straight

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He has massive teeth.

R249 he also was in Shazam which starred Zachary Levi.

Not being public about your dating life is not a sign of anything.

I find weird how almost all Disney stars post about their boyfriends and girlfriend when they are not even 16 (and most of those relationships look totally prefabricated).

And Ross character was in fact straight. One can accuse the show of gaybaiting but given that tease served a purpose (making Miles Heizer character to come out in the last season) i don't think that was the case.

Even if he was gay (i have no idea) there are very few chances to come out. He comes from a very successful teen show and everybody knows that it takes time for most of those actors to put their feet on the ground and getting new jobs regularly, he plays jock types and he is asian (people complain about black actors but the truth is there are a lot less roles for latinos and asians).

On the other hand 13RW make him rich so he doesn't have to worry that much about getting new jobs soon

I think he's doing a great job if he is. He comes off really masculine, but the no dating history seems really odd for someone straight.

It makes some weird sense for some super successful actors who keep their relationships private, but when you’re not super famous, I don’t understand why hide a relationship if you really are straight and 30.

I understand why Katherine Langford doesn’t date . She wrote a lesbian song before 13rw, but she’s younger and already in a movie with huge actors so she probably wants to look like she could be romantic with men.

On the other hand, Ross is 30 with relatively new known acting credits, so if he is gay, he’s being smart about it. Say he made $5 mil, he got to keep less than half after taxes and agent and manager fees. It’s a ton of money, but who doesn’t want more money with bigger roles like a main superhero movie? especially when even smaller roles are harder for someone gay and/or asian.

The only girl he’s been speculated to date was Chantel Jeffries last year when they were hanging out in a group at 2019 Coachella she invited her to her Revolve collab. She’s dated Diplo last year and is dating one of the chainsmokers and they both follow Ross and he follows back, so she probably introduced them to him.

And his 13rw character could have at least been bi, in season 2 his character Zach was hiding the fact that he was helping Miles’ character Alex heal after he shot himself in the head from his friends. His friends teased him about falling for his patient and teased him about Alex being his boyfriend in the hallway. He lied and told them his mom made him help Alex and that he didn’t even like him. And then lies about hanging out with him to his mom. Not to mention he’s wanted to pick up and carry Alex after taking talking about handys. The subtext was there. Season 3 comes around, Alex literally kills Bryce after he threatens to hurt Zach. Season 4 there’s more flirting and Zach says he killed bryce and gets beat up until he’s bleeding because of it. Not to mention that he hesitated when asked if he loved alex (romantically) by another character but said he loved him because he was a good person who never judged him (in an ambiguously platonicish way)

In the end, I don’t think he wanted to gay kisses on his smaller acting reel, so he let Brian Yorkey know that. He knew that could add even more speculation and make people put two and two together when he's never publicly dated anyone

Before coming out, Wentworth Miller said he did not date because he was shy.

Having no dating history in your late 20s is incriminating, especially when vague excuses are given, like this actor's.

Maybe it's the Asian thing.

R253 He was on one of the Netflix biggest hits, he is way more famous on that target that most actors Hollywood promote as the next big thing. And we are talking about a fanbase that knew Brandon Flynn and Miles Heizer were dating from the very beginning.

So or he is really not dating or he is great at hiding it

[Quote] And we are talking about a fanbase that knew Brandon Flynn and Miles Heizer were dating from the very beginning.

They made it pretty obvious via social media.

R257 They were two actors on the same show. A lot of actors post pics like that and the fanbase don't go crazy thinking they are dating

They posted matching pics of each other holding a bible to camera while kissing. They made a point of taking turns.

R259 I've seem way more explicit pics from some of the Elite guys without fueling gay rumours

r260 Which ones?

Come on, Miguel Bernardeau and Alvaro Rico had tons of pics hugging and kissing and even a couple of videos dancing sexy for each other

Oh yeah, I missed that you meant Elite. They always look like they're joking in those pictures; there's no sign of close intimacy. There is between Brandon and Miles.

Spanish guys just seem to be more affectionate in general. R260 R262

Oooh now we're putting on our Detective hats. I never thought of Ross possibly being closeted.

Evan Ross, now...

Miguel has a girlfriend.

R266 Isn't he married with Ashley Simpson and was father a couple of months ago?

I doubt someone on that situation will come out anytime soon

R267 All R&B singers have one even if not all of them are straight (not saying Miguel is gay because frankly i have no idea about his life)

Ross does seem straight otherwise, but at this point I don't even think he's bi; he's either gay, asexual, or trying to fall back on a career in priesthood. In the article he says he's going to be open to dating now, but that was 2 years ago when he was 28. If you look at the pics he takes with the 13rw cast, he's always tries to align himself with the straights. I think he lived with them as opposed to the gay squad Miles & Brandon and Bf Alisha. I mean even the straight actors who seem gay on the show are straight. The actors for Clay, Tony, and Tyler all seem effortlessly straight outside of the show.

When is Manolo Gonzalez Vergara going to make it official and finally come out because anyone with eyes can tell that's he gay.

Perhaps BooBoo Stewart will come out this year. I also get a feeling that he was romantically involved with the late Cameron Boyce.

Taylor Lautner

Does Ross follow Connor? Most of Miles' co-stars seem to have met Connor last fall and follow him on social media.

Brandon is extra eager, always liking Connor's posts.

R273 Brandon flirts with everyone, he is just that way, flirty

R272 Not going to happen. The truth he is the best place possible to come out, his career is not going anywhere and he is filthy rich but he seems to like bearding (even if he is mocked everytime)

I think Ross is straight or he was at one point. Keep in mind, once he got on Riverdale/13RW he probably went through a tweet cleanup, but this hints at something with Courtney Love's reply.

I need help interpreting this tweet.

Sorry but people give too much importance to sm interactions. Brandon Flynn and Aron Piper flirted on instagram and i'm pretty sure they never see each other in person

After it was known about Brandon and Richard supposedly there was stoppage between Brandon and Aron liking each other's post. Once it was over with Richard. Brandon and Aron went back to liking each other's posts.

Hasn't there been rumors claiming that Eugenio Derbez son Vadhir is secretly gay and can't come out and what about Abraham Rodriguez?

I don't think that will happen r272.

Why would you be pretty sure?

Keke Palmer came out again. Or something.

Fai Khadra. Kendall Jenner's BFF. He suits up and is her date in a pinch for various events. Also, Kendall Jenner has an arsenal of beards at her own disposal.

Another bearding pair seems to be Zendaya and Jacob Elordi. If he is, then he must have had a bearding arrangement with Joey King to promote that one Netflix movie.

What makes you think that Fai is gay? He looks like Kourtney ex bf.

r277 Which Abraham Rodriguez?

This one r282.

R278 Well, because both are quite famous and i don't think they were in the same country at the same time

R280 I don't know if it's bearding (frankly i don't know who is Jacob Elordi and i only heard his name recently linked to a girl who i don't know either) but Zendaya relationship with Tom Holland was a classical pr stunt

Naya Rivera

[Quote] i don't think they were in the same country at the same time

If Brandon and Aron liked each other's posts either side of Richard Madden, I'd say it's pretty likely that they've met in person. Otherwise, why stop liking each other's posts when either was in a relationship?

R277 and R287, I think is was a case of Brandon stopped liking Aron’s post but not the other way around. Aron just carried on liking whatever he wanted to. He was probably oblivious to Brandon’s lack of of reciprocity for that period of time.

Actor Liam Aiken seems to have never been in a relationship. He’s beautiful and I hope he’s family.

r283 Oh the actor. you were replying to a couple of posts so i wasn't sure.

R287 Brandon flirts with everyone and he liked Elite. Aron seems to be the same kind of person (i don't even know if he is gay).

While Brandon dated Richard he did some things he probable regrest now (like that interview) like changing some behaviours to adjust to his boyfriend.

He is friendly, i doubt flirting with other actor (who plays a gay character) means he is really interested in him.

R289 He was famous as a child actor. He kept working but he was not in any hit tv show or film so his life was not subject to scrutiny. Of course some actors put everything on instagram, but if that's not the case it's difficult to know their dating life when they fly under the radar

[quote][R287] Brandon flirts with everyone and he liked Elite. Aron seems to be the same kind of person (i don't even know if he is gay).

Here we go, it sure took long enough for the "they weren't flirting, they're just straight friends!" contrarianism to appear here.

Brandon did not come on to other guys like he did to Aron. You're an idiot and can't think for shit, r291.

R293 What a ridiculous overreaction.

First i didn't say they were straight friends, Brandon is openly gay, i don't have idea of Aron's sexual orientation (this week he was linked to a model or instagramer, right now he is the second most popular actor of Elite, behind Ester, and every week appears a new girlfriend, he never said a work about it), and second because i doubt they are even friends.

The flirting came after Brandon watched Elite, both work in Netflix shows, one is gay the other plays a gay character and that was basically all. There's no single proof they knew each other in person

KJ Apa was awhile back was seen with one of the guys from Elite.

r295 Sexy Miguel Lopez

R296 Who is Miguel López?

This guy I think R297

[quote]The flirting came after Brandon watched Elite, both work in Netflix shows, one is gay the other plays a gay character and that was basically all.

Basically "all", what? You're saying they were roleplaying? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? They're both adults, they wouldn't waste time with that shit.

[quote]There's no single proof they knew each other in person

So. What?

People don't flirt with those they only know online? They don't try get to know someone on the internet before meeting in person? They do. Gay men, in particular, are prone to that. The fact that Brandon stopped coming on to Aron after he got on with Richard, proves he meant business. Your attempt to explain that away was moronic.

R299 Why are y ou so angry about that?

Sorry but it's ridiculous to think that someone who is not even out of the closet (in case he is gay) is going to have a serious flirt with an openly gay actor in front of everybody.

Do you want to believe they were more than friends? Nobody stops you to believe that

[quote]Sorry but it's ridiculous to think that someone who is not even out of the closet (in case he is gay) is going to have a serious flirt with an openly gay actor in front of everybody.

Have you never witnessed, or even heard, of someone fooling around with the same sex in public despite not being out as anything?

Golly, you're a sheltered kid.

No, gay people (sometimes even non-gay people) do sometimes do exactly that, despite not previously announcing their gayness to the whole world. It's not that rare, I can assure you of that.

R301 Sorry but you are really deluded if you think an actor who is not out of the closet is going to seriously flirt with an openly gay actor. Joking, as much as you care, but a closeted actor (and till now nobody knows if that's the case with Aron) will never flirt in public as long as he will be ready to come out.

And frankly i read the tweets back in the day and they were not that much given how flirty the Elite cast is with each other (even the straight ones)

I think they meant Jorge Lopez

Perhaps the Brandon Flynn/Arón Piper topic deserves its own thread. It sounds like a couple of posters are very passionate about it for some reason.

[quote]Sorry but you are really deluded if you think an actor who is not out of the closet is going to seriously flirt with an openly gay actor.

You truly are an idiot.

Two things: First, just because an actor hasn't come out in public, it doesn't mean he's in the closet, scared that other people might think he's gay.

And second, it's incredible that someone who knows about Brandon should be making that point. If you know about Brandon, then you know about Richard, too. Richard is not out of the closet. But everyone knows about his affair with Brandon, and while this relationship lasted, Richard never denied it, despite having had the opportunity to do so (in an interview with NYTimes, for example).

And now, Froy is following in his footsteps, quarantining with Richard. Basically everyone, with the exception of the most desperate fangirls, interpreted the closeness between the two as proof that they are dating. And that, despite the fact that Froy, like Richard, has not yet come out to the public.

Froy and Richard have clearly done what you say never happens: they have had or are having affairs with other men, in a very public way, despite the fact that neither has publicly come out of the closet.

Richard knew very well that being roommates with Brandon, and taking him on his travels abroad, would be interpreted as evidence of an affair and, therefore, of his own homosexuality. And Froy also knows very well how his quarantining with Richard is being read by the public.

Why, then, don't you think that Aron can also flirt with guys over the internet despite not being out? Why is it so important to you to believe that there was never anything serious between him and Brandon, despite all the evidence to the contrary?

Are you a homophobic fangirl, or just a random a dumb person? Or both?

KJ is a bit Richard in that he could play ten years older.

r306 I'd watch their porn

I've always gotten a vibe from Chris RIggi, and I thought he would come out eventually, but I guess he's dating a woman now?

They've been together for quite a while. She's Brian Jordan Alvarez' go to gal.

AJ Pritchard

Is AJ Pritchard in the closet?

What about his brother Curtis?

AJ Pritchard made a Pride post last year, with his mother, no less. Not a peep this year. I wonder why...

Both those Pritchard boys are closeted they claim to be straight

AJ has definitely made comments suggesting otherwise.

5:30 onwards

R305 Calling other people names don't prove your point.

People know about Brandon and Richard because they lived together and there are pics of them together not because they flirted online from different countries. And the same with Froy.

And no, closeted actors don't flirt with other actors on instagram if they are serious about it. They send the other guy a private just like Connor did with Miles.

Who the hell is AJ Pritchard?

He is a dancer (i know because i had the search his name last time he was mentioned in one of these threads)

Jake Picking

[Quote] Who the hell is AJ Pritchard?

One of the pro dancers from the UK Dancing With the Stars (Strictly Come Dancing). His brother became a celebrity through Love Island, and the pair hope to become Ryan and Bryan Seacrest in Britain.

Doesn't he have a girlfriend?

Yes. He got his first girlfriend at the age of 24. He's been working so hard, you see, that he didn't have the time or opportunity to meet girls as a Latin dance champion.

Marcus Scribner

Cody Saintgnue

Cody seems a little off.

Teen wolf cast was pretty gay

Jeff Davis saved on a casting director by doing the job himself at the club.

I don't think Cody is gay. Pretty sure he is/was just an actual hooker and that's how he landed the role from JD.

He pings in interviews.

Because actual hookers can't be gay? R328

I don't think you have to say I'm gay to be out. I don't think Ben Platt ever said I'm gay, he casually talked about his boyfriends in interviews prior to his debut album. If you talk about your boyfriends you're out, maybe people won't print what you are, because you didn't say you are gay, you could be bi or whatever, but I think it's enough to be considered out.

Miles Heizer turned out to have the gayest character on 13RW, he dated like 3 different guys in one season, he had more exposure than Tony who was a series regular and yet he won't talk about being gay. I think he has issues to deal with. It's not normal to ditch the subject when you're boyfriend is open about your relationship. If you think this behavior is normal, you're deluding yourself and spare me the 'hes a private person crap'.

Ben's said he's gay and/or queer.

[quote]“Being a gay man was only a piece of my puzzle and a piece of my tapestry. It didn’t need to be the headline, I got to be strange and anxious and Jewish and sing and act and be a brother and a son and a friend, and then also be gay… I didn’t have to have that be the only thing worth knowing about me.

Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla.

R330 Sorry, shoulda specified "gay4pay hooker." Maybe bi.

When is the other Scott Evans going to come out?

Does it count when a tiktoker comes out? I guess not but this guy is hot af and has 8 million followers. So I'll mention him anyway😂

Looks like some of you are witnessing the insanity of the Flynnbots, for the first time . What did Brandon Flynn do to have such preposterously deluded nutbags up his bum?

r336

Wow, 8 million? If there are that many people who actively follow this guy, he must be known to much more people than many "legitimate" celebrities. Maybe it's time to update our concept of what a "celebrity" is.

R338 his hideous femmy boyfriend has nearly 12 million. They have to be fake right? Nothing about this queen is interesting.

R339 He's not his boyfriend, they're just friends.

R331 Miles Heizer isn't out, he hasn't acknowledged his sexuality or boyfriend publicly in any way. If you look through his comments on IG, most of his fans seem oblivious to the fact that he's dating a man IRL. Miles will be considered [italic]out[/italic] when he actually [italic]comes out[/italic] or acknowledges his relationship - only Connor doing it isn't enough. Leaving a heart emoji isn't coming out.

[quote] If you look through his comments on IG, most of his fans seem oblivious to the fact that he's dating a man IRL

In what way?

R339 He likes this guy though.

R331 Ben Platt came out as gay. Only people with no bearding past come out as gay right now. Queer or sexually fluid or being on the spectrum are comodities to not acknoledge that you lied in the past and used your supposed heterosexuality to promote your career. It's very commfy and in most cases very hypocrite.

Miles' character didn't have three relationship, he had two (he kissed three guys). He didn't promote the show this year (even Devin Druid did promote Miles storyline) but i think he did exactly the same.

Saying that Miles is not out is absurd. Everybody who follows him knows who he is dating, it's not a secret. But of course people said exactly the same of Nicholas Hamilton when the guy was with his boyfriend at the It premiere (by the way he didn't have a problem to get an straight lead in a romantic drama).

An yes, i don't doubt some fans don't know he is gay, but that's because some fans are plain stupid. I remember Ben Platt kissing his female costar in one of the pics and some people going crazy because they thought they were dating, all that after the big coming out (which was only several pics before that). If you don't know how to read you are free to beleive whatever you want.

Of course some of the 13 RW fans don't know, because they simply don't care about the private lives of the actors

R338 He is popular on tiktok because he's hot and good at dancing. He's gaining 100k followers daily. He's mostly known in Latin America and Spain as he's from Spain. He's located in LA though. I wonder if someone here has hooked up with him? He wasn't really hiding his sexuality as he's been thirsting over guys on tiktok for a while now. Glad he finally came out.

Singer Avery Wilson comes out as bisexual.

Haha not surprised about Avery and his bright ass teeth.

I guess this counts. Malaysian singer named Alextbh is queer/gay and probably one of the few openly gay Malaysians in entertainment.

Isn't homosexuality still illegal in Malaysia?

It is. I think it's legal to say you like men, just be sure you don't get caught fucking one.

Wouldn't publically saying you're gay draw the attention of the police on you, who would then try to catch you "in the act"? Or is the law not that strictly enforced ?

I guess police have better stuff to do. Lebanon only legalized gay sex in 2018 but Lebanese band Mashrou' Leila has had an out lead singer for way longer than that.

I guess it's similar to American celebrities like Snoop Dogg or Willie Nelson talking about how much weed they smoke even when it was still illegal.

david muir’s boyfriend

R351 I guess he doesn't stay in Malaysia full time anymore. He does says that he has supportive people in his life but knows that not everyone does especially in Malaysia. He also knows about Only Fans.

.....

Call me crazy but I find it hard to believe Alextbh is his given name. /s

I'm still waiting for Bill Kaulitz to make it official. He's been posting pics of himself asleep, so it appears he's sharing a bed with someone. His IG stories are all pride flags & rainbows, but he still won't say it. He's also started following Zac Efron & Brandon Flynn - I mean, c'mon!!!

R358 his coming out would have been relevant in about 2003, not so much these days.

I don't even know who he is

R360 Tokio Hotel? His twin brother is married to Heidi Klum.

Fifteen year old me would’ve given my undescended testicle for Bill to come out.

R358 I didn't know who he was, but after googling him I'd be more surprised if he were straight.

It's absolutely bizarre that he still isn't out. But then again, there are few out celebrities in Germany for some reason, even though it's not a particularly homophobic country.

R364 Germany is not gay friendly either, at least not for a western country

R365 I'd consider Spain more gay friendly than Germany.

R366 In that case you are wrong. Spain, Portugal, France, Netherlands, Belgium all are way more gay friendly than germany.

And all had gay marriage way before Germany

Of course i'm talkinga about the countries not about their soccer leagues

R368 Sorry i mixed the threads

R366 Anyway, there were polls about that, and not, Germany is not as gay friendly as Spain. Not even close

Nobody said Spain was less gay friendly than Germany

R371: God, you are right. I know my english was bad, but it seems my reading comprehension is even worse

Tyler Hoechlin

^^^ What makes you think Tyler Hoecchlin is gay?

I thought Tyler Hoechlin was an undercover southern evangelical. If he was gay, he'd never come out.

....

What makes you think Tyler Hoechlin is religious?

R339 His "hideous femmy" boyfriend is successful. You're not. Now you're even labeled a troll lmao.

r376 who is that?

R379 Jack Quaid. Dennis Quaid's son.

R376, what makes you think he’s gay? Because Meg Ryan is his mom? She seems like the type of woman who would produce a gay son.

r381 He has a gay smile

Matarazzo isn’t coming out per se, but he is showing off his goods. One of the shots reminds me of his Grindr leaks.

Will Matthew Gray Gubler ever come out?

Probably not r384.

Adrian Griener should. A couple months ago, Azealia Banks said he knew her lyrics when she met him in 2013 and that was a clue, but she still hooked up with him. She says she sucked and sucked and he just wasn't into it.

It happens. Sometimes straight men just don't get it up when they're with a woman, and gay men don't get it up when they're with a man. That's not this dude's first anecdote about getting a blowjob from a woman, though, so I'm skeptical that he's gay. Bi, maybe.

Yet another year where no famous gay or bi men have come out, yet a ton of bisexual women have.

[quote]yet a ton of bisexual women have.

Like... who? The only bi women who came out were B-listers, the same as the men.

That Lili chick from Riverdale is famous. No famous men have come out this year.

r390 She's one person; you said "a ton". And I've never heard of her, and I doubt most people over 25 have.

I can't remember the rest as I don't give a shit about dykes. I know a ton of dykes have come out this year though as I'm bombarded with it on tumblr every time it happens.

r392 Confirmation bias. You have stuck in your head that only women come out, so when you see a female coming-out being announced, you remind yourself of that belief. Check the coming-out lists at GayTimes and Pridecom. It's just B-listers and nobodies, and they're somewhat more male than female. If there were more famous coming-outs, they wouldn't be omitted from the lists.

The only woman I could identify from either list, is Cara Delevigne. And she wasn't even coming out per se, she was just changing labels, from bi to pan.

Matthew Gray-Gubler has a longtime reputation for being into very young women - as in teenagers, some as young as 16 while he was in his 30s - and an absolute creep. The straights can keep that one.

R394 I’ve never heard or seen anything suggesting that, and he seems pretty beloved by his cast mates, especially the women (on top of pinging as some kind of queer at least). Any sources/more info?

He quite publicly dated model Kemp Muhl starting in 2004 making public appearances with her when she was 16 and he was 24. A lot of his public relationships have been with him in his 30s and women who were 19-20 - legal adults, but it still makes for a shitty pattern to constantly date women who are teenagers or barely out of their teens. Google his name and Stanford Sierra Camp where he's volunteered and you'll find a string of allegations about him hitting on older teenage girls there too. He's not gay and he sounds like a sleazeball.

Noah Centineo

R364 The German mainstream is hypocritical beyond belief. They love to pretend they are open and progressive, “it’s 2020, why would anyone still need to be in the closet? “ But the truth is that there are almost no openly gay celebrities that do not get pidgeonholed immediately. That’s why most (obviously) gay actors (Florian, David Fitz, Yannik Schümann etc.) don‘t come out and their homosexuality just gets ignored. Seems to me like most of the gays in the public eye are ugly politicians.

R397 Still surprised nothing ever came of this

R397 Not going to happen. I don't know if the guy is gay (i don't know a thing about him) but he is getting his roles playing the lead guy in teen rom coms, so it doesn't seem a smart decision to come out before you prove you can play a lot more roles

Prince

Noah's a tease.

I don't see what's so attractive about Noah

R398 are there any decent looking gay German actors? I can only think of Clemens Schick. He was so hot in the Point Break remake!

I don't get this obsession with A-listers. They're less than 100 people. The Entertainment industry is made of more people than the 1% on the top, who are, by the way, all over 40.

There has been many coming outs from actors, musicians, etc. you're just too old to know them or care, but they're the ones who are heading the industry for the next 30 years. As for actors, B-listers or C-listers are the ones making most of the shows and content people watch. This obsession with a small group of people makes no sense.

R404 Frank Christian Marx. Not great looking but not too ugly

R404 Jo Weil[man in the striped shirt] who finally came out this year.

R405 Are you serious? It has nothing to do with obsession. We talk about A-listers like Jessica Chastain or Beyonce because information gets leaked out and there is something to discuss. I'd love to talk about great B/C-list actors like Matthias Schoenaerts and Sam Riley, but there is no information available about their personal lives.

[quote]love to talk about great B/C-list actors like Matthias Schoenaerts and Sam Riley, but there is no information available about their personal lives.

Sam Riley from Pride, Prejudice and Zombies and Maleficient? He's been married to his "Control" costar for years and they have a kid.

[quote]are there any decent looking gay German actors?

I'm waiting for Tom Wlaschiha (Game of Thrones, Jack Ryan, Das Boots) to come out. He has to be gay.

R409 I used Sam Riley as an example. Pretty sure he's 150% straight and boring. What I mean is that B-D listers are often not well-known enough to generate any rumors and they themselves don't talk about their personal lives. I'm not talking about celebs like Luke Evans who flaunts a new boyfriend every six months.

Are there any interesting B-list actors over the age of 25 who should be discussed more? Sorry, not interested in barely legal Disney twinks.

Yeah, r394, there was a poster here about 10 years ago who said CBS covered up a statutory rape charge. It's believable with what's come out about CBS since. I think Ali Michael was also "young" when they hooked up.

Another athlete comes out as bisexual

Many people discussed here on the many Who Will Come out threads are well known, I can't help it if you're too old to know them or are too self absorbed to give them credit. Again, A-listers are less than 100 people, they're all over 40, most people, specially the young couldn't care less about them. Instead of obsessing over whether P daddy will ever come out or if Tupac's boyfriend will ever address their sex life again, let's focus on Lil Nas X who came out while breaking Billboard records or the many actors and actress making content most people under 40 are watching.

Some of you are just tirelessly irritating. You're like that old guy on the Billie Eilish thread saying she'll disappear in two years while she has 60 million followers on Instagram. You probably think that doesn't mean shit, because you're so out of touch, that you're still living in the pre Internet era, the world is something else and you're left behind.

Yeah R411 Ali Michael was a teenager when they started dating and they waited until just after her 20th birthday to make it public.

I did write this post about German actors in a thread two years ago.

There is much less gossip about celebs in Germany than in the US, and people are much more careful and reserved in gossiping on the internet; but of course German celebs can't always not be much part of gossip and Germany has to try to become a bit more independent from American entertainment industry; German celebs have never sued a poster on the internet, and it would be unwise to do so for them, but generally people are much more careful in what they write on the internet in Germany, and German media pretends everyone famous &co is straight. I read some gay rumors about Florian David Fitz and about Simon Verhoeven, his mother is Senta Berger who had a short Hollywood career and a big career in Germany and internationally, his father is a successful director, whose father was a director, legend, as well. Rosa von Praunheim is an openly gay director, modern legend, and he outed Götz George, a famous German macho actor, don't know if he said mostly gay or gay, George sued, his father was a legend. A film critic who worked for respectable regional papers told a friend of mine 20 years ago, that if you want to make it in German movies, you just have to offer your behind, he named director Detlev Buck as someone quite into the gay casting couch, he was e.g. important for the careers of David Kross, who had Hollywood movies with Kate Winslet and Spielberg, and Till Schweiger, who looked like a rent boy, when starting out. I guess his attraction to women is real, but I read some gossip on German gay site meindbna.de, that he was with his boyfriend at a party with the poster. Christoph Maria Herbst played the German 'Office' lead, he sounded kinda out at the beginning of his career, does have girlfriends since then, but I guess they aren't real relationships, his present one is very dykey, and before that he was with an actress who has a child with the guy from E.T. An actor said in a late night show he was on a cruise and actor Gedeon Burkhard was there with a lady boy, is I think also friends with Roland Emmerich, as is actor Hannes Jaenicke, environmentalist and childless; Ralf Bauer, childless as well, relationships with women seemed a bit fake. Sascha Hehn, pretty sure at least bi, childless, does have relationships with women though of course. Important producer Nico Hofmann no relationships with women public, Oliver Berben, had his first producing job, or one of his first in the gay sitcom Bewegte Männer, after a comic of the gay author Ralf König, artists tend to be more real at the beginning of their career, his mother is successful actress Iris Berben, he looks semitic and she was in Israel for a a pretty long time before he was born, she never disclosed the father of her son, there are rumors it is Israel singer Abi Ofarim; Oliver Berben presents himself as a womanizer, and the media does, and I guess it's true, he might have used and use the gay casting couch quite a bit with his actors though, famous producer Bernd Eichinger half-jewish (as well), probably also gay casting-couch type, Helmut Dietl presented himself as straight, they all do, guess he used gay casting couch quite a bit as well. Thomas Fritsch, was German voice of Russell Crowe, Jeremy Irons, William Hurt, and had many other voice roles, but also a big career in German acting, is openly bi; Clemens Schick, was in Casino Royale, Bond #1 with Craig, came out as gay after his main success was over. A friend of mine interned in a main theatre in Bonn 20 years ago and she said the male actors were all gay or had another problem. Marc Waschke, guess gay or bi, Oliver Hasenfratz, I guess died of AIDS, I guess gay; Benno Fürmann, in an interview I saw, he kinda admitted to being attracted to men, I guess bi, maybe gay, Matthieu Carriere admitted in a talkshow to being attracted to men, presents himself as bi and straight, Hape Kerkeling openly gay, had some movies with former lover, who is a writer; Sebastian Koch, guess gay or bi. And then there was and is the pervy problem I won't answer to questions, I never do that on dl and similar sites

There is much less gossip about celebs in Germany than in the US, and people are much more careful and reserved in gossiping on the internet; but of course German celebs can't always not be much part of gossip and Germany has to try to become a bit more independent from American entertainment industry; German celebs have never sued a poster on the internet, and it would be unwise to do so for them, but generally people are much more careful in what they write on the internet in Germany, and German media pretends everyone famous &co is straight.

I read some gay rumors about Florian David Fitz and about Simon Verhoeven, his mother is Senta Berger who had a short Hollywood career and a big career in Germany and internationally, his father is a successful director, whose father was a director, legend, as well. Rosa von Praunheim is an openly gay director, modern legend, and he outed Götz George, a famous German macho actor, don't know if he said mostly gay or gay, George sued, his father was a legend. A film critic who worked for respectable regional papers told a friend of mine 20 years ago, that if you want to make it in German movies, you just have to offer your behind, he named director Detlev Buck as someone quite into the gay casting couch, he was e.g. important for the careers of David Kross, who had Hollywood movies with Kate Winslet and Spielberg, and Till Schweiger, who looked like a rent boy, when starting out. I guess his attraction to women is real, but I read some gossip on German gay site meindbna.de, that he was with his boyfriend at a party with the poster. Christoph Maria Herbst played the German 'Office' lead, he sounded kinda out at the beginning of his career, does have girlfriends since then, but I guess they aren't real relationships, his present one is very dykey, and before that he was with an actress who has a child with the guy from E.T. An actor said in a late night show he was on a cruise and actor Gedeon Burkhard was there with a lady boy, is I think also friends with Roland Emmerich, as is actor Hannes Jaenicke, environmentalist and childless; Ralf Bauer, childless as well, relationships with women seemed a bit fake.

Sascha Hehn, pretty sure at least bi, childless, does have relationships with women though of course. Important producer Nico Hofmann no relationships with women public, Oliver Berben, had his first producing job, or one of his first in the gay sitcom Bewegte Männer, after a comic of the gay author Ralf König, artists tend to be more real at the beginning of their career, his mother is successful actress Iris Berben, he looks semitic and she was in Israel for a a pretty long time before he was born, she never disclosed the father of her son, there are rumors it is Israel singer Abi Ofarim; Oliver Berben presents himself as a womanizer, and the media does, and I guess it's true, he might have used and use the gay casting couch quite a bit with his actors though, famous producer Bernd Eichinger half-jewish (as well), probably also gay casting-couch type, Helmut Dietl presented himself as straight, they all do, guess he used gay casting couch quite a bit as well. Thomas Fritsch, was German voice of Russell Crowe, Jeremy Irons, William Hurt, and had many other voice roles, but also a big career in German acting, is openly bi; Clemens Schick, was in Casino Royale, Bond #1 with Craig, came out as gay after his main success was over. A friend of mine interned in a main theatre in Bonn 20 years ago and she said the male actors were all gay or had another problem. Marc Waschke, guess gay or bi, Oliver Hasenfratz, I guess died of AIDS, I guess gay; Benno Fürmann, in an interview I saw, he kinda admitted to being attracted to men, I guess bi, maybe gay, Matthieu Carriere admitted in a talkshow to being attracted to men, presents himself as bi and straight, Hape Kerkeling openly gay, had some movies with former lover, who is a writer; Sebastian Koch, guess gay or bi. And then there was and is the pervy problem

I won't answer to questions, I never do that on dl and similar sites

Shame our German expert didn’t mention the cuties Louis Hoffman and Jannik Schümann from “Center of My World”. After following them both for a year, I’m not convinced they are straight.

Max Riemelt is German and probably fucked Brian Smith.

Hanno Kollfer

R405 And of course it depends of what we are talking about, because the number of global A list celebrities is even lower.

As i said, Pablo Alborán is probably the most important spanish singer of the last decade and he came out this year, but of course he sings in spanish so he is not known in the USA.

R407 I didn't know Jo came out, it was more or less known, but the number of openly gay german actors is quite low

R413 WTF are you talking about? I AM a young person. And unlike many here I’m not interested in gossip about some ancient celebrities like Golden Girls and Tom Selleck (I actually had to google who they were when I first stumbled on DL). But I just couldn’t care less about Billie Eilish or Lil Nas or some trashy youtubers. Where is the gossip about INTERESTING young celebs? You know, indie rock bands? Cannes winners? Athletes? If you can’t provide any, pipe down.

r421 Pablo Alboran is more prominent than Maluma ?

[quote]A-listers are less than 100 people, they're all over 40

Technically a lot of A listers turned 40 this year like Ryan Gosling, Chris Evans - or are in their early 40s, but many in their early 40s have been stars for 5 or 10 years. Wonder why stars are so old, lately, though?

R423 They are totally different kind of singers, but in Spain yes, by far (and in Portugal too). In Spain he is simply the best selling artist for a decade, he is huge. And he was able to stay on top for a decade without a scandal and with all his colleagues talking good things about him

R424, wut? This isn't Logan's Run.

[quote] WTF are you talking about? I AM a young person. And unlike many here I’m not interested in gossip about some ancient celebrities like Golden Girls and Tom Selleck (I actually had to google who they were when I first stumbled on DL). But I just couldn’t care less about Billie Eilish or Lil Nas or some trashy youtubers. Where is the gossip about INTERESTING young celebs? You know, indie rock bands? Cannes winners? Athletes? If you can’t provide any, pipe down.

If you aren't interested about the celebrities that are popular today, maybe you should create your own planet and then you can gossip about the imaginary people living there. Pipe down yourself grandpa, with your moronic self entitlement, the world isn't design to satisfy you. Fuck off.

R426 I don't get it. (R424)

I mean weren't there once A-listers who were young? Like, in the 80s - Molly Ringwald, Tom Cruise, Rob Lowe, Michael J Fox, Sean Penn. For instance.

*or in the 40s, 50s, and 60s there were many A list stars in their 20s. Why are they all so old now?

Ross Butler has been discriminated for being over 30 and single with no kids. Some comments suggest he's being discriminated by a rental site user because they think he's gay along with his friends, so the rental owner is using that as an excuse to weed out gays. Maybe the rental woman sees something we don't.

It supposedly seems that porn whore Roman Todd now considers himself "Pansexual".

Ross Haslam

r431 All the g4p actors are now saying they're bi, pan, or fluid.

Hope so, R432. Also, I didn’t know anybody else followed the slutty UK divers anymore. Most people jumped off the train after Tom got hitched and Chris Mears retired/started dating a woman.

Ginger pocket twink James Heatley is my current replacement for Jack Laugher’s thick little self.

dodod

TL;DR —- ok DL soothsayers, did any of your predictions come true? I’m talking recognizable names, not some obscure college athlete in bumfuck New Zealand. Real names!

Someone said that Ross Butler recently posted a clip from James Baldwin. Is he trying to hint at something?

James Baldwin is part of the canon of the XX century. I doubt it means nothing more than he has good literary taste

r437

There are loads of reasons why people would be interested in James Baldwin apart from his sexuality.

For white and white adjacent Gen-Z celebs, becoming educated on James Baldwin was a requisite part of the George Floyd movement. His publicist probably told him to keep it up until the end of the summer.

david muir

If Dah-veed does any more pelvic thrusting, his dick is going to come out this year, at least.