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Basquiat is overrated and basic

Why does it seem like when people want to seem like they’re in fine art and painting, the person they go to is Basquiat? It’s like saying you like Basquiat, it makes you deep or cool or with it or something.

God rest the man’s soul, but I never found his work to be that inspired. It was actually simplistic. And a tad...under-thought. Just kinda meh.

But he was a Black with a French name. With weird hair. Who lived in NYC pre-Giuliani. Who dated Madonna back when everybody else wanted to. Who came up doing graffiti, which is cool because it mixes art and criminality. Who died of an overdose and is in the 27 Club. So hes considered an icon.

Yeah, no.

by Anonymousreply 42April 12, 2020 9:51 PM

Well, you told us.

by Anonymousreply 1April 12, 2020 4:47 PM

Kind of like Tori Amos.

by Anonymousreply 2April 12, 2020 4:49 PM

Well....SMELL Miss OP.

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by Anonymousreply 3April 12, 2020 4:50 PM

The Kardashians collect him, so it might as well be Thomas Kincaid as far as I’m concerned.

His style is basically categorized as “Give a Junkie an Elementary Art Class & Here You Go!”

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by Anonymousreply 4April 12, 2020 4:53 PM

Basquiat had a floridly creative period from late '81 to early '83. He produced astonishing works at an astonishing rate, fueled by his extreme youth and hunger for fame and by massive amounts of cocaine. After that, he started to burn out and became increasingly repetitive and uninspired.

by Anonymousreply 5April 12, 2020 4:54 PM

Miss OP sounds like a fucking racist.

by Anonymousreply 6April 12, 2020 4:55 PM

OP, you may appreciate this thread.

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by Anonymousreply 7April 12, 2020 4:56 PM

And this one:

by Anonymousreply 8April 12, 2020 4:56 PM

R6 sounds like a hair trigger NiBi

by Anonymousreply 9April 12, 2020 4:56 PM

A pox on your house r2

by Anonymousreply 10April 12, 2020 4:57 PM

Not a fan of his work, but I am curious as to what OP’s motivation is...

by Anonymousreply 11April 12, 2020 5:01 PM

He was terrifically talented. His work has held up very well in the past 30 years. He was inventive and a terrific draughtsman and very very motivated - he made a LOT of art in his short career. People who collect his work are very rich and they not stupid people. Your judgments are based on his personal life, not his actual talent and his work. He died because he was spoiled, and did not have a lot of self-control maybe; it's happened to a lot of talented youngsters. If you don't like his work, nobody cares. You're a windbag.

by Anonymousreply 12April 12, 2020 5:04 PM

[quote] And this one:

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by Anonymousreply 13April 12, 2020 5:08 PM

R6 Took the words right out of my mouth.

by Anonymousreply 14April 12, 2020 5:14 PM

His work is overrated, repetitive junky junk and his fame is due to him being black, looking "cool", having a Frenchesque name and dying young.

R12, the rich people who collect his stuff do so because they see it as an investment and because he churned so much out there's a lot of it still available.

by Anonymousreply 15April 12, 2020 5:15 PM

[quote]Yeah, no.

But... people who use that expression tend to be very, very "basic," no?

by Anonymousreply 16April 12, 2020 5:15 PM

Like any artist, you need to see a wide portfolio of his art to make an assessment. I've only seen a few of his famous works, so I don't have enough experience to make any judgments.

by Anonymousreply 17April 12, 2020 5:20 PM

R15 You could say the same thing about Mimmo Paladino or Bliny Palermo. Except you've never heard of them.

by Anonymousreply 18April 12, 2020 5:20 PM

R11 I’m laying here listening to The Strokes’ new album, and I see the album cover and it looked familiar. I do a quick Google search and see it was inspired by Monsieur Basquiat, and it took me back to one of Intro to Art courses in classes. Do I decided to share my random thoughts about him with the girls.

by Anonymousreply 19April 12, 2020 5:22 PM

*Intro to Art courses in college.

by Anonymousreply 20April 12, 2020 5:22 PM

Basquiat was seriously mentally ill, probably with either schizophrenia or severe bipolar disorder. He inherited the condition from his mother, who spent much of Basquiat's childhood in and out of various institutions. Basquiat was also hit by a car at a young age and spent weeks in the hospital, and he was physically abused by his father throughout this formative years. At 13, he was molested by an older man while on a trip to Puerto Rico, and by 16 he had run away from home and was turning tricks in Times Square to buy drugs.

He was never stable, and he never would have made old bones. He was quite talented, but his mental health and addiction issues kept him from achieving everything he could have. After that early, brief period of true innovation and artistic vision, he quickly descended into self-parody and bratty rock star behavior.

by Anonymousreply 21April 12, 2020 5:25 PM

Oh and I didn’t mean to him “a Black” in the OP. I meant “a Black man”. At some point I’ll stop speed-typing on my phone to avoid really bad typos.

R16 It sure is. Be sure to pass that along when they auction off my post at Christie’s with a starting bit of $20M. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 22April 12, 2020 5:26 PM

[quote] He was never stable, and he never would have made old bones.

Of course not. He would have painted them.

by Anonymousreply 23April 12, 2020 5:28 PM

I actually have to agree with main point here Basquiat's stuff was similar to any number of downtown-y artists who came out of the graffiti art scene. With the right supporters, who were fascinated by his persona (and his hotness) , he was able to get the attention of the mainstream art world at just the right cultural moment. I'm not saying his work wasn't good because it obviously was. I'm just saying he wasn't a genius.

by Anonymousreply 24April 12, 2020 5:50 PM

Nudes?

by Anonymousreply 25April 12, 2020 5:55 PM

[quote] He was never stable, and he never would have made old bones. He was quite talented, but his mental health and addiction issues kept him from achieving everything he could have. After that early, brief period of true innovation and artistic vision, he quickly descended into self-parody and bratty rock star behavior.

Wow an unstable tortured artist with a tragic back story and substance abuse problems! Imagine that! He was certainly an anomaly in the art world.

by Anonymousreply 26April 12, 2020 6:49 PM

R22 No you most certainly meant to type that as "A Black."

We all know your a white supremacist, there's no sense in trying to clean it up. You exposed yourself the first time.

by Anonymousreply 27April 12, 2020 6:55 PM

If I had a 5 year-old, who was a junkie who looked at a lot of graffiti, and a POC who was considered "sexy" by the Art Establishment, he could do this stuff.

by Anonymousreply 28April 12, 2020 6:58 PM

It is crystal clear that Black Excellence is a threat to white people.

To white people, Black Success will always be looked at as a fluke that should have never happened.

by Anonymousreply 29April 12, 2020 6:58 PM

R29 snooze

by Anonymousreply 30April 12, 2020 6:59 PM

Better him than that horrible K Haring.

by Anonymousreply 31April 12, 2020 7:01 PM

I agree with R31 ! I loathe Haring . I do enjoy some of Basqiat's work ,but not all of them by any means . So much of the art world now is nothing but bullshit hype and no real talent . Lets be honest,that really started in the 80s with people like Basquiat .

by Anonymousreply 32April 12, 2020 7:11 PM

R32 No, it started with Andy Warhol decades earlier.

Never mind, he's White!

by Anonymousreply 33April 12, 2020 7:15 PM

His work has an electricity that still resonates 40 years later which certainly isn't true of many

by Anonymousreply 34April 12, 2020 7:22 PM

Theres a lot of resentment on this thread. So many failed assholes, mad they didn't make it.

by Anonymousreply 35April 12, 2020 7:27 PM

But the movie was marvalus. I fell in love with Wright.

by Anonymousreply 36April 12, 2020 7:29 PM

It’s all in the story.

by Anonymousreply 37April 12, 2020 7:32 PM

I love him.

by Anonymousreply 38April 12, 2020 7:38 PM

Touche R33 . I agree wholeheartedly .

by Anonymousreply 39April 12, 2020 7:57 PM

OP, sorry to put it this way, but nothing succeeds like success. If you're so jealous of Basquiat's success, you might wish him dead. Oh wait ... he's already dead. And yet, you are still alive! So, moving along ... to prove your point, why don't you share some photos of your artwork so we can be the judge of how superior you are to Basquiat. Maybe this thread on Datalounge will be the moment that elevates your status so your artistic talent can receive the recognition it so richly deserves.

by Anonymousreply 40April 12, 2020 9:26 PM

Reading this thread full of pompous and argumentative twats made me want to kill myself.

by Anonymousreply 41April 12, 2020 9:38 PM

I'm an artist and love Basquiat's work, but the OP does have a point. I know many people who know nothing about art and have no appreciation for it, yet they love Basquiat because of his story. It has nothing to do with the art itself, and all to do with glamorizing who he was as a person. Some of his pieces are exceptional, and some are dashed-off mediocrities. He was too prolific to have been consistent, but some of his art is very good indeed.

by Anonymousreply 42April 12, 2020 9:51 PM
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