Coronavirus Freakout 26: Stand Back

Is Donald Dump going to sniffle & lie to us again today? Is anyone going to stand up to him? Is anyone going to get him out of the fucking way?

I see US and Italy going back and forth today for more confirmed cases

US will be #1 by Saturday for sure. I mean we'll never know China's true numbers but we're STILL BEHIND ON TESTING so it's going to keep spreading like crazy here

Is anyone going to throw a shoe at him and call him a fucking liar?

Stock market way up! Crisis over! #MAGA #winning

Panic on the streets of London

Panic on the streets of Birmingham

I wonder to myself

Could life ever be sane again?

Nicole Wallace looks like a lion. Sarah Paulson was a bad casting choice to play her.

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Kellyanne humiliated BY FOX NEWS as her defense of Trump backfires ON AIR

WH briefing scheduled at 5:00 PM today.

My contribution for a thread title: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"

Here in the UK, we all stood on our doorsteps (or leaned out of our windows) and clapped for our NHS workers a few minutes ago. This has been the most surreal week of my life.

r10, Americans aren’t participating in the global Thank Your Medical Professionals evening cheer. Americans don’t comprehend gratitude.

USA is #2 - passed Italy in infections

USA 80,854 (+12,643 so far today)

(BTW - CDC and John Hopkins stats are behind)

r5's post reminds me of the headline on a review of Morrissey's new album: "Old man yells at cloud."

Camus was really a depressing author wasn’t he? Has anyone here read The Stranger?

R6 It’s interesting to see how all these people really look, skyping into these broadcasts without hair, makeup or lighting.

R9 YES!

Also, masks work. Spend your free time making some homemade masks. You can cut up vacuum cleaner bags to line them with for added efficacy.

[quote] A Cambridge University study showed that lots of household materials are nearly as good as surgical masks, and you can use 2 layers of material to make them even better. It doesn't need to be perfect - it just needs to reduce viral load so your immune system can kick in!

Trump needs to be removed from office. People are dying due to his incompetence.

[quote]it just needs to reduce viral load so your immune system can kick in!

um, no. That is a false and ridiculous statement. It makes no difference ‘how many’ viruses get into your system. When you’re infected you’re infected.

R11, Americans get accused by Brits of being sentimental when in fact they’re MUCH more sentimental than we are. All that “I need a cuddle” crap.”

The NHS applause a half hour ago is a lovely idea but I had to switch off a UK radio station when the sentimentalizing of it made me somewhat nauseous. So much of this “we’re all in this together” shit they love is more self-congratulatory than anything else.

Suck it, Italy! We're number one!

Ralph Lauren detonates $10 million for coronavirus relief.

WHERE is MY credit for the title????????

R22, good on him!

An explanation for today's wall street numbers. Countries are spending trillions and trillions of dollars to prop up the markets. Unfortunately it will not be enough to prevent the economic devastation that will follow once the medical crisis is finally over.

NEW DELHI : Leaders of the Group of 20 or G20 major economies on Thursday pledged to infuse over $5 trillion into the global economy, and do “whatever it takes" to minimize the economic and social impact of the Covid-19 pandemic. In a joint statement issued after the G-20’s first ever virtual summit, chaired by Saudi Arabia, members committed themselves to restore global growth, maintaining market stability and strengthening resilience. Prime Minister Narendra Modi was among leaders who participated in the video conference.

A neighbor of mine, a nurse, got into a yelling match with a teen who’d been hanging out on his stoop all day smoking pot, having friends over.

It’s an Affluenza case, where the teen’s mom moved in with a lover in another county a while ago, leaving him to live in the house alone for now. (He’s 19.)

No way restaurant works will be able to survive on unemployment since they rely on tips to make up for the lousy pay.

USA has passed China. We are #1

One of the first coronavirus deaths in Virginia is an evangelical pastor who said the virus was no biggie and was just being used by the media to hurt Trump

The good news is that we won't hit 100k by the weekend. I'm hoping this signals a sloping of the curve.

Sure R29...We will hit 100K by tomorrow

Me, on the fourth day of quarantine:

I didn't think I could love Michael Rappaport more after his Fuck Trump video LOL

"Well, you could be standin' in...

STAND BACK!!!"

Mariska Hargitay tweeted about the coronavirus death of 45 year old Josh Wallwork, who was in the costume department at L&O: SVU. She misspelled “corridor” as “corredor” but that could have been grief.

When do the "NOTHINGBURGER!!"/"IT'S JUST MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING TESTED!!!"/"It's Just THE FLU!!!" guys get here?

They all pounced at once yesterday for a steady stream and then disappeared for the evening.

Sock puppets? Troll farm? MAGAts?

[quote] I'm hoping this signals a sloping of the curve.

We all hope that, but I’m very concerned that people’s attitudes toward the quarantine have simply been too inconsistent to be effective. Read about the extreme measures that China took in Wuhan. Ours are relaxed to say the least by comparison. It is quite clear this virus is all around us and continuing to spread. So, sadly I don’t think we’ve reached anywhere near the peak. Hell, Southern states are not doing anything about the stay at home orders. People from there freely travel to other parts of the country, thus continuing to spread the virus further.

We have a long way to go.

I hope Carroll Baker is okay. She’s 89!

My husband spoke with his sister who now lives in Florida. She's near 60, has always been liberal. But she has drunk the Trump Kool-Aid and was parroting his and Fox's soundbites like it's all going to be over by Easter, that it's not worth tanking the economy, and the classic "more people die from the flu."

Then she praised the work Trump and fucking McCONNELL have done and by that point my husband hung up on her.

Six feet apart is impossible to do when you are in the grocery store. And God's sake the people and their kids. No one wants to hang around your kids in normal times let alone times like this.

Coronavirus can survive on shoes for up to 5 days, experts warn (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The coronavirus is known to make a home on many non-human surfaces, including doorknobs, cardboard boxes and shopping carts. Now, to the surprise of probably no one, experts are calling shoes a “breeding ground” for germs.

Infectious disease specialist Mary E. Schmidt warns that the coronavirus could survive on rubber, leather and PVC-based soles for five days or more, the Huffington Post UK reported — and has even suggested that individuals wear shoes that are machine-washable.

Depending on what materials are used to make a shoe, the pathogen can remain for days on the upper part as well. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases found that COVID-19 can survive on plastic for up to two or three days, meaning shoes featuring plastic components are also risky — though that’s not a primary concern for some doctors.

“The sole of the shoe is the breeding ground of more bacteria and fungi and viruses than the upper part of a shoe,” emergency physician Cwanza Pinckney tells HuffPost.

A 2008 study by microbiologists at the University of Arizona found that the average shoe sole contains some 421,000 bacteria, viruses and parasites. However, Pinckney reminds us that many of these microorganisms “influence and allow us to develop immunity.” So, in many ways, they could be helping us stay healthier.

Nevertheless, public health specialist Carol Winner says taking your shoes off before entering the home is a smart measure for anyone.

“If you can leave them in your garage or in your entryway, that would be ideal, as you don’t necessarily have to leave them outside,” she tells HuffPost. “The idea is to just not track them throughout the house.”

Schmidt adds concern for children especially, and advises parents to be especially mindful of how children handle their shoes.

“You have to hide the shoes from small children to ensure they don’t touch them,” she says. “Teach them not to touch shoes unless they are designated indoor shoes, as shoes are the dirtiest objects we have in our homes, other than the toilets.”

Winner attempts to quell fear, telling individuals to focus more on personal hygiene and hand-washing, rather than what’s living on the bottom of their shoes.

“There is no evidence to say that the coronavirus comes into the house from shoes,” she says. “Pragmatically, they are on the body part furthest from our face, and we do know that the greatest risk of transmission is person to person, not shoe to person.”

So question... is Worldometer entirely reliable? It cites higher numbers from some countries than the national government websites do.

R40 is irresponsible reporting.

Open with a scary headline and at the bottom bury:

“There is no evidence to say that the coronavirus comes into the house from shoes,” she says. “Pragmatically, they are on the body part furthest from our face, and we do know that the greatest risk of transmission is person to person, not shoe to person.”

That’s near fucking criminally irresponsible. Facebook will be burning up with it now.

CDC and JH are a few hours behind. IDK why

De Blasio won’t release key coronavirus stats despite promises of transparency

As the city’s coronavirus case count neared 10,000 on Sunday, Mayor Bill de Blasio promised to provide New Yorkers the truth — even difficult information — about the pandemic.

“I think my job is to tell you the things that we’re going to confront, including some things that are difficult to hear, but to brace New Yorkers for the reality,” Hizzoner said.

Since then, his administration has repeatedly refused to provide basic statistics about the capabilities of the city’s health care system as it strains under the crushing weight of COVID-19 pandemic.

Key stats the city won’t share include the number of intensive care beds that city hospitals have for the sickest patients, how close city morgues are to running out of capacity or even what neighborhoods are hardest hit in the outbreak.

“New Yorkers deserve full transparency from our city government at a time like this,” said Councilman Chaim Deutsch, a Brooklyn Democrat.

“This is a pandemic of epic proportions, and we can’t even get a basic breakdown of cases within NYC,” Deutsch said.

A state database last updated in January says NYC’s public and private hospitals have just 1,442 ICU beds. According to reports FEMA puts the number closer to 1,800 — and even those units will be full by Friday.

City tallies show there are 840 patients in ICUs, but officials refuse to say how many critical care beds remain empty.

When asked to confirm the FEMA report Wednesday de Blasio said, “I am not going to get into details that are ever-changing.”

His public hospitals chief, Dr. Mitchell Katz, has said that regular hospital beds can be converted into ICU beds with staff and ventilators, but has declined to say how many beds have been transformed.

The mayor also refused to discuss a Politico article that said some morgues at city hospitals were already full. “The facts, as I have heard them from folks in my administration, are that we have capacity right now,” de Blasio insisted at a Wednesday briefing.

A mobile morgue has already been rolled out at Bellevue. City Hall only provides a borough-wide breakdown of COVID-19 cases and has resisted giving New Yorkers closer view by neighborhood or zip code even though other places like Nassau County publish detailed maps.

City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot said a more detailed breakdown wouldn’t make sense in the city because “we have hotspots all over the place.”

The mayor’s office routinely provides other coronavirus stats that are constantly in flux, including the death toll, positive cases and hospitalization rate. Other city departments also regularly publish information about ever-changing statistics like school attendance counts and crime figures.

Mayoral Press Secretary Freddi Goldstein defended de Blasio’s approach.

“The mayor, Dr. Katz, Dr. Barbot and the rest of our healthcare professionals are working tirelessly to build out the capacity of our hospitals and morgues. That’s what matters, not how many we have of any given thing at this very hour on this very day,” Goldstein says.

Fuck Facebook..get off of it. It is total frau-fest of BS

"The CURE can't be WORSE than the DISEASE!"

"Thuh ECONOMY!!!!!!!!!!!"

"DL FAGGOT CHICKEN LITTLES!!!!!"

36-year-old British mom dies from coronavirus after paramedics refused her

A 36-year-old British woman died in her apartment after paramedics told her that her possible case of the coronavirus was “not a priority,” according to a report.

Kayla Williams, a mom of three, was suffering from coronavirus symptoms Friday when emergency crews were called to her home in south London, the Guardian reported.

Her husband, Fabian Williams, said he decided to call emergency dispatchers after she started experiencing a cough and high fever, as well as severe chest and stomach pains, the outlet reported.

But when paramedics arrived, they refused to take her to the hospital and told her to nurse herself back to health, the report said.

“She told me the hospital won’t take her, she is not a priority,” Fabian told the outlet.

The next day, her husband said her health continued to deteriorate and he found her slumped over in the home. see also British PM Boris Johnson orders his nation to stay home amid coronavirus

“She was already dead,” he told the Guardian.

He reportedly called emergency dispatchers again but they were unable to revive his wife.

The London Ambulance Service confirmed that they treated a patient at Williams’ home and initially urged them to look after themselves.

“Our clinicians treated a patient and advised them to call back if their condition changed,” the agency said.

The agency continued saying, “Our sympathy is with the family at this time. We are working incredibly hard in these unprecedented times to look after Londoners.”

yesterday my friend's husband was diagnosed he is 72 and had bad lungs. He was acting like he was invincible and continued to socialize as late as this Saturday. We have no idea how many people he encountered. Now my friend woke up feverish and with body aches. Now he has it. He is furious. His husband has lost control of his bowels and bladder. Fortunately I haven't seen them in weeks.

The New York Times @nytimes · 5m Breaking News: The U.S. now has the world’s most reported coronavirus cases with 81,321, according to New York Times data. Over 1,000 deaths in the country have been linked to the virus.

[quote] The good news is that we won't hit 100k by the weekend.

Really? We just hit 80,000 according to NBC News

R48, that's tough...You friend might be single soon...good luck to him and his husband, hope they both pull through...

R50: NBC is behind. See R49 (NY Times) and worldometers

R29, what alternate universe are you living in?

NYT:

The U.S. Now Leads the World in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases

I talked to a friend last night and she told me about the horrible “cold” she had 5 weeks ago, after returning from a conference in San Francisco. All the classic symptoms. When I asked her if she had noticed loss of smell, she said the only thing that stuck out in her mind was that the Vicks VapoRub didn’t smell right. Her boyfriend was also hit with the same bug, but wasn’t nearly as sick as she was. She said it took two weeks to breathe deeply again.

She didn’t tell anyone that she thought it might be COVID-19, out of fear of being called a drama queen, but she’s going to get an antibody test as soon as they’re available.

Anosmia was also reported by a number of health care workers in Milan who did not connect it to the infection until the last few days.

I believe that the virus is far more prevalent than what we are lead to believe, and probably far less deadly to younger, healthy populations.

Has anyone reading this thread lost their sense of smell lately?

Anyone watching the presser? Trump sounds out of breath

I just noticed that too, R56.

He always sounds out of breath at these things. Big breaths at the end of every sentence.

Jake Tapper said during his two hour show, 26 people died.

LA mayor said people should plan to stay in until May. After hearing this, I’m thinking I should stock up on fresh veggies tomorrow. I can freeze them. It’s just getting worse every day, so going later is worse.

This mob stooge calling other leaders "wise guys"...

A friend of mine and his husband almost assuredly have contracted covid. Fever, weakness, tightness in chest and as R55 mentions, anosmic. They are in London and being told their symptoms don’t warrant a test or even to be looked at in person by a doctor. The order of the day, apparently, is stay at home and heal by yourself. I worry for them, as both are heavy smokers.

[quote]The good news is that we won't hit 100k by the weekend.

There are GRAPHS that show the pace of infections and idiots STILL cannot grasp this information. We're doomed.

Sorry I'm kind of food incompetent: how do you freeze fresh vegetables, like arugula, so that when you defrost them, they're (pleasantly) edible?

Not arugula r63- it gets bitter the older it gets (much like my soul).

Chelsea Trader Joe’s Also Closes Temporarily After Staffers Test Positive for COVID-19

according to nbc news, 5 workers here tested positive! Don't go to this store fellow DLers!

A third Trader Joe’s store in New York City has temporarily closed after multiple staff members at the store tested positive for COVID-19, according to an announcement on the grocery chain’s website. The Chelsea store, at 675 Sixth Avenue, between West 21st and 22nd Streets, now joins Trader Joe’s locations in Soho and Union Square that have temporarily closed for the same reason.

Exactly which dolls is this goon on?

You can’t freeze anything leafy in any edible fashion. Check out parboiling. You want to take vegetables and boil them 3-5 minutes, then put in icy water 3-5 minutes. Then freeze. This preserves the freshness.

R63

Some vegetables freeze better than others. You definitely should blanch them before freezing. Here is a basic guide:

r67, but you can't do that with anything leafy? What about cucumbers?

Trump just keeps repeating, we have to go back to work. You have to go back to work.

You go to work, asshole.

R69, anything with high water content is pretty much unfreezable. Best bets are things like carrots, onions, bell peppers, potatoes (only if cooked or blanched) sweet potatoes, carrots, zucchini. You have to blanch them first though, some will be ruined if you don’t.

So Trump thinks restaurant owners will declare bankruptcy and just open another restaurant?

How does this fucker keep going? He’s like the energizer bunny.

Thanks, r71. How is blanching different from parboiling?

Because he sucks the air out of everywhere he goes.

r73, Vitamin Cocaine

R74: blanching involves an ice bath at the end to stop the cooking process immediately. Parboil method does not. Blanching is better for vegetables.

It worked for him, r72...

I don't blanch anything anymore. I just cut them up and freeze them. You only want to freeze items that you ar going to cook because once defrosted they are very soft.

I have been freezing whole tomatoes for 40 years. When you defrost them the skin pops right off. They keep their taste much better than canning.

Slice or chop onions, peppers, cut or freeze whole string beans, I freeze spinach and cabbage to use in soups.

R79, Why don’t you buy them fresh?

The only cooked vegetable I like is broccoli. All the other ones, I only like fresh. It's mostly a texture thing. But also they just taste better raw.

QuickTake by Bloomberg @QuickTake U.S. jobless claims jumped to 3.28 million, quadruple the prior record. Insights via @CMEGroup

R80 we are discussing hoarding, oops excuse me, *storing* vegetables in the freezer due to the coronavirus pandemic.

My sister-in-law decided to hop on a plane Tuesday and go visit her parents in DC for a few days. I am so pissed at her. My other sister-in-law was out and about this weekend too, then going to see her parents. Do they want to kill my in-laws? My father in law is a heavy smoker and I am so worried about him. My husband would be devastated if he lost his dad. I feel lime throwing rocks at my sisters in law

R69, you sound like you don’t have a lot of experience with this, so here’s some suggestions.

If you can, get cans of diced tomatoes and tomato paste, or if you can find stewed tomatoes, that will do too. Watch your salt content. Go for no-salt or lower salt canned foods as much as you can, but if you don’t have a choice you don’t. That’s why dried beans and rice are good. No salt added. Other canned foods: corn, peas, mushrooms (pilaf) green beans or anything else you want for soup.

Get dry beans and rice, white rice stores longer. If you want brown rice, plan to eat it all in six months or less. Get more than one kind of beans, not just a bunch of pinto beans. Black beans are versatile, also red beans or as many kinds of beans as you can get. Garbanzos work well in soup.

Get olive oil. More than you think. You can put it on bread when you run out of butter. If you’re cooking from scratch a lot, you need it for cooking and baking. It doesn’t need refrigeration even after you open it. Get bullion cubes or Better than Bullion, it comes in chicken, beef and vegetable. Doesn’t need refrigeration until you open it. Ghee if you go to Costco. It’s shelf stable butter.

Get some kind of pancake mix or Bisquick if you can. Lots of cake recipes and Jiffy cornbread requires an egg. Pancake mix doesn’t and you can use it to make cookies and biscuits. You can use applesauce as an egg substitute in recipes so get that. Get soy milk or almond milk or powdered milk or shelf stable milk for cooking and cereal. Get oatmeal, the big box if you can. You can cook it in a pot or crockpot or Instant Pot. Get dehydrated mashed potatoes, the plain kind. No salt added, easy to make. And they fill you up if you’re craving carbs. Get lentils. You don’t have to soak them, just rinse and throw in the pot.

Fresh vegetables, I would get a bag of onions, a bag of potatoes, carrots, bell peppers and some celery for soup, although it’s hard to freeze. I’m going to try blanching some. This part is work. You have to take the carrots, onion and celery out of the bag, wash and dice the onions and peel and slice the carrots, and blanch the carrots if you want to keep the quality. I’ve just thrown the onions in the freezer diced, they’re ok in soup. But do it within a few days, stores sprinkle the produce section and the plastic bags are wet inside. If you store potatoes and onions dry, don’t put it in a plastic box with a lid, it needs ventilation. It will mold. You could try a milk crate or something with a lot of holes in it. Sweet potatoes are good too. Grains: grits, quinoa if there is such a thing these days, malt o meal or instant oatmeal. Ovaltine is good hot or cold and you can use almond milk with it if you don’t like milk.

Try to get “instant” yeast if it’s available, and flour. You can bake bread or biscuits if we’re locked in for months. Which it looks like we will be.

Dried fruit: raisins, dates, Craisins, or whatever you can get. Spices: salt, pepper, sugar (you need it for the bread to rise), parsley, cumin, chili pepper or similar. Get Mexican hot sauce if you get nothing else. It makes a lot of things better. Also Siracha, soy sauce, Instant gravy. Sams Club sells a big plastic bottle of it in the spice section.

Pesticide. Spray the baseboards in the kitchen and storage areas.

CNN: “At least” 237 deaths in U.S. in one day.

I don’t see how hospitals are dealing with this when there aren’t enough PPEs for the workers. This thing is so contagious that you would have to put on a full set of gown, gloves, mask and goggles for each patient you come into contact with, and a fresh set every time to be safe. Some of these nurses in the ERs probably come into contact with dozens of patients every shift. Same with respiratory therapists. There are stories about nurses who are given one mask at the start of their shift and told that is all they’re getting.

I read that in Spain 10% of their hospitalized CV patients are health care workers. I wonder if we’ll see that here.

Hospital are not using a ventilator between two people. It is called "ventilator splitting."

New York hospitals can now attempt to treat two coronavirus patients with a single ventilator, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced on Thursday, a move that could help the state make better use of its scarce supply of lifesaving breathing machines as the outbreak continues to surge.

New York-Presbyterian Hospital has developed a split-ventilation protocol that has been shared with the New York State Department of Health, which quickly approved the practice.

Calling the technique “not ideal, but workable,” Cuomo said ventilator splitting may be necessary given some projections that suggest the state may need as many as 30,000 ventilators in the coming weeks.

The practice is controversial, and the move drew immediate criticism in a joint statement issued by several medical associations advising clinicians “that sharing mechanical ventilators should not be attempted because it cannot be done safely with current equipment.”

Someone posted this on the Lying POTUS thread...

[quote]Ralph Lauren detonates $10 million

Pics please.

QuickTake by Bloomberg @QuickTake · 3h In hard-hit Bergamo, Italy, dozens of coffins were transferred to churches awaiting cremation as cemeteries run out of room from the high number of coronavirus deaths

R86 Let's at least put things in context. They keep going on about how the US has surpassed Italy in number of cases, forgetting that Italy is 60 million people compared to 330 million in the US. Same with the number of deaths.

I wonder if it's possible for someone to be immune to this virus...

immune to it to never get it in the first place...

Well, that's cheered me right up, R91!

⏳ CORONA TIME 💜 MARCH 26 7:PM EST

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 529,057

DEATHS: 23,967

CRITICAL: 19,506

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 83,144

DEATHS: 1,201

CRITICAL: 2,112

It's going to kill at least 50% of healthcare workers.

Somewhere, someone or two, are immune to The Corona.

God help them when they are discovered.

😵 We all know what their government will do.

Why does there seem to be a left/right political divide when it comes to the coronavirus? It seems to me that right-wingers are likelier to be part of the "it's all scaremongering, this is just like flu!" crowd. I just saw someone on Twitter comment that it's "not PC" to say the USA won't be as badly affected as Italy. Where does political correctness come into it? It's a virus.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Finding someone immune to it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack R97.

Frightening how quickly we’ve become a third-world country.

'Stand Back'? What kind of useless title is that? London Kills Me or New York Horror Story would have been much better.

Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr.: These reports have been overblown

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"And um...you know...he's the CEO, he's treating this...he's running this, uh whole pandemic like you'd hope a CEO would..."

Yes, he is running the pandemic like a CEO would. “You have to get back to work! You have to get back to work. People have to get back to work!”

He actually said that today.

Saw the new anti-Trump "Unite the Country" spot during the commercials on the ABC Nightly News with David Muir.

CDC issued a clarification of previous story about Coronavirus found on surface on the Diamond Princess ship 17 days after those with virus had left the ship. It was NOT a live virus found on the surface after 17 days. It was identifiable RNA remnants of the virus and was not in itself contagious. They repeat that the Coronavirus might survive up to 72 hours on surfaces. Of course, you can sanitize your surfaces easily enough. Coronavirus is contagious for sure, but its structure makes it pretty fragile and easily destroyed by sanitizing products. (Its lipid envelope is easily interrupted by soap, even.)

Only lazy motherfuckers like Trump yammer on about how hard they work.

🐇 What are the possibilities that Churches will even reopen by Easter?

Statistics are increasing at an alarming rate, yet Trump continues to play the "everything's great" storyline.

Even if Churches were reopened, I highly doubt they would be packed. We're in for a long, bumpy ride.

r106, link?

Trump is gambling the red state governors will go with business as usual and the blue states won’t. Then he can run on ‘well, i tried.’

But some of the red states are about to go under the wave of infections.

Contagion is currently airing on ITV2. Just what we need right now.

R98

Preppers are usually classified as Right Wing, so that group definitely doesn’t fit with the “hoax” crowd.

I think the division is pretty anti-partisan. It might be one of the things that has brought together former political opponents in the last 4 years!

R98

Preppers are usually classified as Right Wing, so that group definitely doesn’t fit with the “hoax” crowd.

I think the division is pretty anti-partisan. It might be one of the things that has brought together former political opponents in the last 4 years!

I live in a red state and a lot of people are opting to stay in as long as we need to no matter what Trump or our local government says. I hope the churches aren't packed on Easter. I really hope they aren't.

R92 the population comparison does seem unfair, with US so much more populated, but I think it's fair enough, for now -- if you just take NYS as a comparison though? Not looking too hot. Even with our land mass, we managed to find cases in almost every state at this point (maybe every state by now).

My five children have been out in the backyard for over 8 days now as I social distance. I will be letting them back in on Easter morning.

Atta, you-identify-as, r116. But don’t quit while you’re ahead.

R99

Fantastic examples of spontaneous organization in a society.

No need for government edicts, just understanding needs.

Although I’m not religious, this reminds me of the story of a basket of loaves and fishes that fed a multitude- the miracle was that those who had more to give added to the basket, making it larger by the end of the sermon.

R99

Fantastic examples of spontaneous organization in a society.

No need for government edicts, just understanding needs.

Although I’m not religious, this reminds me of the story of a basket of loaves and fishes that fed a multitude- the miracle was that those who had more to give added to the basket, making it larger by the end of the sermon.

I loved that Morning Joe played that new campaign commercial that Trump hates three times! Shade

Sad day with US having most cases. Yes it’s due to more testing but ii was caused by Trump trivializing it back in January.

Lagging internet connections are the worst part so far. Too many double posts.

Lagging internet connections are the worst part so far. Too many double posts.

R120: LOVED it too! Joe kept asking questions and saying can you play it again so I can see... it was obvious shade!

R109, I’m not R106, but here’s a link. Read down into the article.

Shade

There were 263 CV deaths in the US over the past 24 hours. That’s 16 more than yesterday, an increase of 6.5%. So far it hasn’t hit here like in Europe. Yet.

The political ads right now are having the opposite effect. As we know that people instinctively rally around an appointed leader in times of crisis, it makes people defensive. These will be very effective in a few months - but now is not the time,

I respectfully disagree. Even Fox knows he blew it. First Amendment

[quote]Why does there seem to be a left/right political divide when it comes to the coronavirus? It seems to me that right-wingers are likelier to be part of the "it's all scaremongering, this is just like flu!" crowd.

You might want to go back and see what DeBlasio and other NYC leaders were saying about the virus in February and the early part of March.

Yes, R129

This is apolitical.

Some people understand math better than others.

[quote]The political ads right now are having the opposite effect. As we know that people instinctively rally around an appointed leader in times of crisis, it makes people defensive. These will be very effective in a few months - but now is not the time,

No, you have to do it now before he sets the narrative. If you wait, it will be too late. Trump is just mad because he can't do the same right now.

Dog doing yoga with cute Italian guy

^^“Respire, respire, respire!”

R132

That was hot. And hysterical.

[quote]“Respire, respire, respire!”

No, it's "Respira, respira, respira!"

Anyway, I wouldn't mind being in isolation with him.

Boy, ol’ Jerry Falwell Jr. sure is plumping up like his pig daddy being raped in hell.

The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer 2/26/20 | CNN NEWS Today March 26, 2020

the mainstream media needs to make "why won't Trump invoke the Defense Production Act" the 2nd top story after updating the latest numbers

keep putting pressure on him by informing the public HE COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT EQUIPMENT AND TEST SHORTAGES BUT HE'S NOT

It's CNN, so I can't link to it, but here's the headline.

[quote]Hillary and Bill Clinton sent over 400 pizzas to New York hospitals fighting against coronavirus

They spent their own money to send food to every hospital in Westchester County.

Has Trump done...well, anything?

I keep hearing people with coronavirus also have pneumonia. Is pneumonia one of the effects of the coronavirus and would getting the pneumonia vaccine increase your survivability?

Interesting Twitter post from Emmanuel Macron:

"Very good discussion with @realDonaldTrump . In response to the COVID-19 crisis, we are preparing with other countries a new strong initiative in the coming days."

R141 “...it’s a great new plan called New World Order”.

Merde!

I don't like the sound of this.

R139 after #pizzagate ? The NERVE of those deep staters!!!

The pizza was a signal to announce that the Clintons are raping young children!

Trump said on hannity that he doesn’t think hospitals will need 40,000 ventilators. Incredible. Hannity said Cumomo should stop “complaining”

I can’t wait for this thing to ravage the red states.

well on Fox they ALWAYS have to have an enemy

the last few weeks it's been China

I knew they'd turn their ire towards Cuomo who has been stealing Trump's thunder

Yup, he’s completely jealous of Cuomo and knows he won’t win NY anyway so he doesn’t care. What was interesting though is that he insulted the governor of Michigan and said he’d have to think about declaring an emergency there. Michigan is obviously an incredibly important state for him. What a retard.

He’s turning this into an all out war on blue state governors. Luckily they’re the ones taking the most precautions so hopefully the deaths will be higher in Trump states. You know on Sunday those churches in the south are gonna be packed to the brim.

I wonder what Trump would say about repub governors of blue states like Massachusetts, Maryland and Vermont

R146 The pedo calls are coming from inside the pizza!

Yeah, I live in Maryland and thank dog Larry Hogan isn't a brain dead Republican. I'm not sure he's that great but MD is very blue and a numbnut GOPer wouldn't survive.

R140 yes, pneumonia IS the effect of the coronavirus. The virus attacks cells in the lining of the little alveoli deep in the lower lungs. That, in turn, causes edema and inflammation in the lower lungs. I think that IS pneumonia. Ultimately, system failure due to lack of oxygen causes death.

So you want to keep the virus out of your airways, off your mucous membranes, out of your eyes, by any means possible.

However, if your lungs are healthy, and you can avoid getting pneumonia from other causes, then you increase your body's ability to fight the virus.

That's my understanding from binge-watching a ton of vids.

^^^ that is, pneumonia is the effect of critical cases of COVID-19

I don’t think mild cases involve pneumonia.

'I keep hearing people with coronavirus also have pneumonia. Is pneumonia one of the effects of the coronavirus and would getting the pneumonia vaccine increase your survivability?'

Pneumonia has several causes. In the case of corona, the lungs are damaged so pneumonia develops because of that. The vaccine only protects against a pneumonia that's contracted differently.

'I can’t wait for this thing to ravage the red states.'

You can forget it. There's a lot of evidence that sustained heat limits the virus' transmission rate, which is why in countries like the Maldives they've stuck in double figures for weeks. All those blazing 90f in Texas and Florida will blast the virus.

No, R153 what kills coronavirus patients is ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome,) not pneumonia. That’s what attacks the alveolar lining of the lungs and causes them to leak fluid, basically drowning them. It also causes the membranes to scar and the lungs get stiff and impossible to ventilate. Oxygen can’t get across the membranes into the bloodstream no matter how much oxygen they pump into the lungs. Some recover from this but many don’t. ARDS basically nukes their lungs.

Just watched Japanese news. Such a shock - logical, intelligent, pragmatic, logical exploration of issues, causes and responses. American news is all hype and opinion and drama.

Apparently Taiwan is the best at stopping it so far. Test kids temps at school, trace contacts for every person diagnosed. The czar for CV there has daily 2 hour press briefings. The conclusion everyone reached: honest, complete communication of facts is the key - then people comply and will do what’s best. Sooooo - the exact opposite of what we are doing with Trumptards spewing “we are great, things are fine, will be done soon, new drugs”.

most of those bum fuck rural places that are full of Trumptards don’t have an ICU within 100 miles. They’re also generally unhealthy communities. Obesity, diabetes, smoking, drug use, chronic alcoholism. Once this thing reaches them, they’re fucked. They’re too stupid to realise that Sean hannity is telling them it’s all hysteria from his 20,000sq foot mansion where he’s totally isolated and can afford the best healthcare in the country.

Darwin’s Law is coming for Trump country.

I appreciate and am cheered by the donations of private citizens, companies and corporations to pandemic response efforts. However, it is the U.S. Government and its trillions of dollars in tax revenue that should be obligated to protect public health and our economy. It should not fall to Rihanna. I hope the failure of our government is not overlooked due to the generosity of the private sector.

Georgian hospital worker found dead in her home with her child by her side.

R156 uh have you not noticed all the cases the last few days in Texas, Louisiana and Florida? and they don't have the same amount of testing as in NYC or the east coast areas. The red states are going to SOAR over the next couple weeks

R158 That’s how South Korea got it under control so quickly- they tested EVERYONE with symptoms, tracked down all their contacts and tested them too and quarantined everyone who tested positive. And this wasn’t ‘voluntary’ social distancing like Europe and the US is doing. They tracked contacts down like detectives, and used CC receipts, iphone apps, car gps systems and electronic bracelets like prisoners get for monitoring people in quarantine. Seems extreme but they were able to get it under control without shutting down their economy like Europe and the US have done (and still have failed to control it.)

They started ramping up production of test kits very early and churned out enough to test EVERYONE. That’s why Trump is such an asshole for bleating about how “we’re testing MORE than South Korea” at every press conference he does. South Korea was testing everyone while Trump was still calling CV a “hoax” and claiming it would soon disappear like magic.

The Rachel Maddow Show 3/26/20 [FULL] | MSNBC News March 26, 2020

the media needs to hammer Trump. Now is not the time to "rally behind the 'President' ". He's not fucking acting like a President. He's a fucking menace, a danger, a hindrance to improving the situation. He should be completely ignored on stage during the dumb briefings. Press should just ask Fauci and Birx questions

We need more stool testing!

It’s pretty simple. Trump does not feel he owes anything to people that did not vote for him. He does not care about us and never, ever will. He doesn’t care about the people who voted for him either but definitely feels like he “owes” them something.

We need to stop being shocked by what Trump says and does. He isn’t going to change. This is the situation. It’s up to the governors and mayors to protect their people. The federal government might throw them a bone every once in awhile but that’s it.

Ignore everything Trump says. Media needs to stop airing his press briefings. Cut to it when Fauci talks and that’s it.

the media just seems to be afraid to treat him the way they should. They keep giving him the deference a usual President receives. It's time to stop that. He's not deserving of it. He's willfully spewing lies and propaganda.

let the assholes on Fox "News" scream and whine about the "biased leftist liberal mainstream media" who cares. I don't give a fuck what they say

yeah, but those bumfuck red states are spread out, they are not densely packed like NYC, they won't be hit that bad unless they all go to church and get infected or other gatherings.

The senate is taking a fucking break until April 20th?? Seriously??? They need a vacation NOW?

R169 but they do. They pack into churches and bars. All it takes is one person and then the whole town is infected. They go visit grandma in her run down nursing home and bam-everyone in the nursing home is dead. It’s what happened in the smaller towns in Spain.

New York City reported 84 more deaths from the coronavirus Thursday as the number of confirmed cases continues to soar locally and across the country.

The de Blasio administration also confirmed 1,239 new COVID-19 cases, bringing citywide totals to 23,112 infected people and 365 deaths as of Thursday evening.

Medical personnel Thursday described disastrous scenes at hospitals that have become completely overwhelmed by the deadly virus as droves of New Yorkers and the city’s first responders fall ill.

Mitch Katz, the head of the NYC Health + Hospitals system said the pandemic has been “very rough … very challenging” for workers.

“We are holding on,” Katz told the City Council in a telephone briefing. “It is very rough, it is very challenging, but all of the hospitals are working above their capacity to meet the need.

The virus has hospitalized 4,720 patients, 20 percent of all cases, with at least 850 of those being treated in ICUs.

Queens leads the boroughs with the most number of cases at 7,362; followed by Brooklyn with 6,095; the Bronx with 4,243; Manhattan with 4,046 and then Staten Island with 1,330.

Queens also has the most infected residents per capita, with about .32 percent of the borough’s residents having come down with the virus.

New York has served as the epicenter for the United States’s outbreak as the country on Thursday reported the most confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the world, eclipsing both China and Italy.

here's the Trump/Fox "News"/repub plan for the next few weeks:

-keep pushing false hope/unproven cures exist

-bash China

-bash blue states and blue state mayors/governors for how many cases they have

-when the epicenters move to red states, bash blue states for not stopping the outbreak sooner and that it's the blue states' fault it spread to red areas

Trump doesn’t even know what a ventilator is.

Queens has been hit hard, I wonder how many immigrants are positive. these are not roommates situations. They live in cramped environments like 20 people living in a house etc. I feel bad for them. I haven't seen any of them collecting cans in my neighborhood recently.

This from the group behind that ad that has Trump squealing about SUING THE NETWORKS that run it:

[quote]Since Trump made it clear how terrified he was of Americans learning the truth about how his incompetence has put us all in danger, we decided to expand the buy for this ad into Arizona starting tomorrow in addition to FL, MI, WI, & PA.

ahahahahaaa

A Bronx mailman has died from the coronavirus, the first known city letter carrier to succumb to the illness, according to his labor union.

Rakkhon Kim, 50, who worked at a post office in West Farms, died from complications of the disease on Wednesday, the National Association of Letter Carriers said in a news release.

Kim, a New Jersey resident, worked as a postman for 23-years, NALC said.

“On behalf of the NALC, we mourn the loss of Brother Kim,” NALC President Fredric Rolando said in a statement.

“We send our deepest sympathies and heartfelt thoughts and prayers to Rakkhon’s family, loved ones, friends and co-workers.“

The clip of him saying that he has to “think” about declaring an emergency in Michigan is going to be a great ad in the Fall as well.

The ad, if you haven’t seen it

by Priorities USA Action

omg Trump said on Hannity he postponed his phone call with President Xi to talk to him

HE NEVER DOES ANY WORK

I wonder if Trump will use the Defense Production Act once the red states get hit hard so he can then give them all the supplies while blue states keep suffering

that wouldn't shock me

R181> Of course! He will be their *savior* so they will vote for him in November. He knows NY and CA will never vote for him.

Meanwhile in Pennsylvania...

I"m glad the unemployed will be getting money but I'm annoyed that they will be getting more than what my take home pay is even though I still have my job.

They are required to apply for so many jobs during that period and many companies are hiring as the front lines drop dead so chances are they won’t be getting those checks for long.

And he’s on Hannity’s show blowing up his chances of winning Michigan this November. Fucking dumbass.

[quote]Trump says he's having a big problem with "the young, a woman governor, you know who I'm talking about, from Michigan."

OP I don’t know who sings this but she stole this song from Linus Loves. I’m an entitled millennial and I know everything.

it'll never happen but I would love if someone on camera shouted at Trump that he's not doing his job and needs to resign.

DESPICABLE

I can't believe this shit is allowed on air

I love this guy's "Southern Momma" videos

New Jersey man, 25, in coma after misplaced positive coronavirus test

A 25-year-old New Jersey man is fighting for his life after a lab lost a test that showed he was positive for the coronavirus — delaying his treatment, reports say.

Jack Allard, a two-time All American lacrosse player, was placed in a medically induced coma at an Edison hospital after being tested for COVID-19, news station WABC reported.

His mother, Genny Allard, told Pix11 News that her son first got sick on March 13 when he started experiencing a high fever, back pain and started throwing up.

“We thought he had a kidney infection,” she told the station.

His health deteriorated and he was placed on a ventilator in the intensive care unit, where he was tested for the coronavirus, WABC reported.

But the lab lost the test, which delayed his access to special experimental treatment by at least five days, the report said.

“My son is healthy, no pre-existing conditions and he’s 25. This virus is really dangerous and now he is very, very sick,” Genny told WABC.

Jack was eventually airlifted to the University of Pennsylvania on Tuesday for a clinical trial for the Ebola drug Remdesivir.

“Remdesivir is one of the anti-virals that has been shown to limit the viral activity,” Dr. Laila Woc-Colburn, an infectious disease professor at Baylor College, told PIX11 News.

Genny said her otherwise healthy son’s ordeal has revealed that “we’re in uncharted waters in the world” with the pandemic.

“He never vaped, he never smoked,” the mother told WABC. “He took his health very seriously — I mean he’s an athlete.”

NYPD counter-terror chief John Miller hospitalized with coronavirus symptoms

NYPD Deputy Commissioner John Miller is in serious condition at a New York City hospital with coronavirus symptoms, The Post has learned.

The department’s head of counter-terrorism was at Lenox Hill Hospital Thursday awaiting tests for the pandemic COVID-19, according to two high-ranking police sources.

If his tests come back positive, which sources say is more than almost certain, Miller would be the third member of the NYPD’s executive team to have the bug.

Deputy Commissioner for Employee Relations Robert L. Ganley and NYPD Transit Bureau Chief Edward Delatorre tested positive last week.

The news comes as cops calling in sick soared to more than 3,700 and more than 350 members of the NYPD were confirmed to have the virus.

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 27 12:00 MIDNIGHT EST

💊 NATIONAL VIAGRA DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 532,237

DEATHS: 24,089

CRITICAL: 19,357

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 85,594

DEATHS: 1,300

CRITICAL: 2,122

Allegedly nurses at Kaiser are being told they will be fired for wearing their own masks.

A friend's hospital is having to reuse masks, one for an entire shift and were told if they refuse an assignment due to lack of PPE, it will be noted against their license when it comes up for renewal.

These people that go to work daily in hospitals and other critical services are like firefighters entering a burning building. Unfortunately many of them are now infected with the coronavirus.

🚫 There is no possible way this country will be ready to open for business as usual on Easter Sunday.

Threatening a nurse for taking proper measures to protect herself/ himself is a big, big mistake. These heroes are going to walk out because they can't take the stress. They have spouses, partners, children, and pets. They've already gone above and beyond. They're not ready to give their lives at a place where they're threatened and underappreciated.

I certainly wouldn't.

And they’re calling on retired nurses to come back in to work at these hospitals, with no fucking masks available?

Fuck. China. There need to be consequences for them wrecking life for every person on the planet. They better open their check books.

It looks like Italy is still having around 700 deaths a day and now Spain is up there too. A comparable # of deaths for the US would be around 4,000 deaths a day, for days on end. Will that be us in a couple of weeks? I don’t see why we would escape it.

The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell 3/26/20[FULL] | MSNBC News March 26, 2020

R200 Trumptard

[quote] These heroes are going to walk out because they can't take the stress.

Yes, absolutely, you are correct — at some point they will just walk away. They selected this profession because they obviously feel called to it. But they can’t be forced into it, especially when the conditions become totally unbearable.

It’s why I get so infuriated when tRump and Pence start in on their daily “happy talk,” chattering away about why things are going so swimmingly well. Yeah. How about you talk to some of those doctors, nurses, and health care workers in NYC. Let’s see what they have to say. Fuckers. 😡

They can take that job and shove it.

A series of tweets from Marc Lipsitch, infectious disease epidemiologist at Harvard regarding Dr. Birx’s reassuring statements at Trump’s press conference today:

[quote]Tonight #DeborahBirx stated that models anticipating large-scale transmission of COVID-19 do not match reality on the ground. Our modeling (done by @StephenKissler based on work with @ctedijanto and @yhgrad and me) is one of the models she is talking about.

[quote]We received a request to model dozens of scenarios from the US government at 5pm on Tuesday. We responded to many of these on Wednesday evening, thanks to fast and careful work by @StephenKissler. This was done in good faith in order to help support the USG response.

[quote]Modeling the scenario of intense social distancing for a temporary period, followed by a letup, produces predictions of resurgent transmission and large epidemics, with the exact consequences depending on the degree and duration of reduced transmission during social distancing.

[quote]Dr. Birx's statements today realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/… indicated that "when people start talking about 20% of a population getting infected, it's very scary, but we don't have data that matches that based on our experience."

[quote]True. We are near the beginning of the epidemic, with most people still susceptible. China and Korea have suppressed transmission by massive testing, combined in China with far more intense distancing than here and in Korea with significant distancing

Continued:

[quote]If our social distancing works it is possible we will not just flatten the curve, but get a decline in cases. Under a best-case scenario, we will keep that policy in place long enough to get down to very, very few cases domestically.

[quote]If at the same time we ramp up testing capacity and the ability to trace contacts, in a very best-case scenario, we might conceivably be able to turn to a Korea- or Singapore-style mix of less intense distancing combined with super-intense contact tracing, isolation, quarantine

[quote]That will not be easy with this virus as our @CCDD_HSPH analysis has shown medrxiv.org/content/10.110… but as some (mainly island) countries have shown, it may be just possible. We should do everything we can to reach for this goal, even if it is unattainable.

[quote]But here's why it is a best-case, likely unattainable scenario. 1) We have not proven that US-style social distancing can produce R_effective<1 (declining case numbers). On this I'm hopeful, but it's a hope not a fact.

[quote]2) we remain woefully behind on testing capacity, especially in many parts of the country. Like a forest fire, intense control in one place fails if there are sparks from other places. We must strengthen the weak links. But test reagents, swabs, PPE remain in short supply.

[quote]Solving the testing problems will not be easy, despite heroic local and state efforts to make up for the feckless federal efforts on this front. Supply chains are delicate and it may not be possible to come from behind and establish Korea-level testing capacity.

Continued:

[quote]3) We have never accomplished contact tracing on the scale that will be necessary -- and again, to keep cases low, we will have to accomplish that everywhere, not just some places.

[quote]4) IF we manage all of that, there will still be a world of COVID-19 transmission throwing sparks back at us. Like China today reuters.com/article/us-hea… we will be in a long-term effort to prevent these sparks from starting new chains of transmission.

[quote]So the scenario Dr. Birx is "assuring" us about is one in which we somehow escape Italy's problem of overloaded healthcare system despite the fact that social distancing is not really happening in large parts of the US

[quote]That is unlikely. Then the rosy scenario assumes we get to minimal numbers of cases everywhere, develop and maintain testing and tracing capacity, execute well on it, don't miss imported cases that spark new chains of transmission, and somehow maintain this delicate balance...

[quote]For the 12-18 months (best case under current models) till a vaccine. I desperately hope she is right, because much suffering will be avoided. But reassurance that this is likely, or even plausible, with the disorganized track record of the US response, is false reassurance.

[quote]On a simpler level, saying that "facts on the ground" are not consistent with 20% of the population getting infected is really quite deceptive. Likely, no population has 20% yet infected (though we can't be completely sure until serologic testing is widespread).

[quote]But this virus has shown in countries around the world that it can spread rapidly, and a small problem can become a big problem -- that is how exponential growth works.

So basically Dr. Birx is a Trump sycophant and bullshitting people is what he’s saying.

The woman from R183's link needs to be drawn and quartered. On pay-per-view.

I guess Trump has decided to pick a fight with Governors since he has no plan? Grade A asshole

Yeah R211. Jay Inslee in Washington state and Cuomo in NY are one thing but the idiot needs Michigan. His campaign people must be tearing their hair out.

I want to see this piece of shit and everyone who enabled him tried for mass murder and all of them executed.

We can point the finger at China all we want, but it does little good when we have a catastrophe right here to deal with and a President who seems uninterested in fixing it.

China will have its reckoning later.

China is our biggest creditor R214. You have not power then you owe.

*no

Family says ‘perfectly healthy’ dad is dead days after coronavirus diagnosis

A “perfectly healthy” father of six from Texas died Thursday from the coronavirus — two days after he received his positive diagnosis, a report said.

Adolph Mendez, known as T.J, was 44-years-old.

The New Braunfels, Tx., resident was a beloved Kindergarten teacher at Oakwood Church who had a clean bill of health before catching the coronavirus, his family told the New Braunfels Herald-Zeitung.

“You hear that the people who die are older, or have previous health conditions, but he was neither and the virus took him down hard,” Mendez’s wife, Angela, told the paper.

“It can happen to anyone, it’s not just a story that happens to people across the world. It’s here and it’s real and it can kill anyone, just like it did my husband.”

The couple have three boys and three girls.

One of their daughters, Brenda Johnson, described her father as “perfect healthy.” She also recounted how he was a fixture in his neighborhood.

“He was kind. He was patient. He cared about others,” Brenda told the paper. “He loved his family so much. He was very involved in our community and our church.”

She said her father’s students referred to his as “Mr. Sticker Man” since he would exchange stickers with them every Sunday.

“He was very loved by all,” Brenda added.

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Stevie’s kept me busy the past week. Hopefully this will all — ahem — blow over soon.

Stevie is an embarrassment these days. She's in love with Harry Styles, 45 years her junior. In her quarantine tweet, she told everyone to go and listen to his album Fine Line.

LOL R219. Right now, Stevie needs a little sympathy.

I actually love how Stevie has always been into cozying up to and promoting new talent.

She could have turned into an ossified cat lady of the '70s, but in the early '80s she befriended Prince, and he gave her the keyboard line that made her great solo hit at OP.

She was a mentor on The Voice, and she basically adopted Vanessa Carlton and Harry Styles.

Most legendary divas can't be bothered, but she tries to spotlight up-and-comers, and it makes me love her more.

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[quote]When graveyards filled up, bodies at Avignon were thrown into the Rhône until mass burial pits were dug for dumping the corpses. In London in such pits corpses piled up in layers until they overflowed. Everywhere reports speak of the sick dying too fast for the living to bury. Corpses were dragged out of homes and left in front of doorways. Morning light revealed new piles of bodies. In Florence the dead were gathered up by the Compagnia della Misericordia—founded in 1244 to care for the sick—whose members wore red robes and hoods masking the face except for the eyes. When their efforts failed, the dead lay putrid in the streets for days at a time. When no coffins were to be had, the bodies were laid on boards, two or three at once, to be carried to graveyards or common pits. Families dumped their own relatives into the pits, or buried them so hastily and thinly “that dogs dragged them forth and devoured their bodies.”

Tuchman, Barbara Wertheim . A Distant Mirror . Random House Publishing Group.

A summary of the situation in Africa from CDC Africa .

COVID-19 : UPDATE IN AFRICA, 27 MARCH 2020 - 9:00 am EAT Countries (46) reporting a total #COVID19 3,243 cases, 83 deaths, 254 recoveries by region.#

R214 Can't blame China for American stupidity... I mean exceptionalism. Everyone was warned but the stupid won't listen.

More and more information coming from Russia now

CNN-Russia reported 196 new coronavirus cases Friday, bringing the total number to 1036, the country’s coronavirus headquarters said in a statement. Overall, 58 out of 85 Russia’s regions reported they are treating coronavirus patients, the statement added. The majority of the cases -- 703 -- are in Moscow, another 49 are in the Moscow region.

BBC-Germany has seen a rise of 5,780 coronavirus cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the total to 42,288, according to the Robert Koch Institute for infectious diseases. The number of deaths has climbed by 55 to 253. Chancellor Angela Merkel has appealed for patience in fighting the outbreak, rejecting calls for a relaxation of restrictions that only came in in several states earlier this week.

BBC-With India in the grips of a national 21-day lockdown, only those performing essential services are being allowed to work. But confusion over what counts as an essential service has led to nearly "five million truck drivers being stranded without food and access to sanitation across the country's highways", according to transport expert SP Singh. Many have been forced to sleep in the back of their trucks as they haven't been able to get back home. Some are also stuck outside factories, unable to offload high-value cargo because of prohibitory orders from local authorities.

Scary as fuck!

BBC-The smiling face of a Parisian teenager named Julie A beams from the pages of French websites today. The 16-year-old schoolgirl is the country's youngest victim of the coronavirus. Her sister, Manon, has warned that her death shows that everyone is a risk from Covid-19.

"Julie just had a light cough last week and it got worse with mucus at the weekend. On Monday they went to see the doctor and that's when she was diagnosed with respiratory distress. She's had no particular illnesses before," Manon told Le Parisien newspaper.

69 additional deaths here in Belgium since yesterday. 289 deaths in total. 1049 new cases. 7284 in total. Freaking out!

[quote]Tuchman, Barbara Wertheim . A Distant Mirror

Absolutely one of my favorite books ever.

A big increase in Spain since yesterday despite hopes that they would reach the peak earlier in the week.

BBC-Health officials say the number of deaths in Spain has risen to 4,858, up 769 in the past 24 hours. The previous day saw 655 deaths. Overall Spain has seen an increase of 7,871 cases in the past day to 64,059. The number of people who have recovered is now 9,357.

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Boris Johnson has tested positive!

Sky News @SkyNews BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson has tested positive for #coronavirus.

The PM is reportedly self-isolating in Downing Street but is continuing to lead the government's response to #COVID19.

His girlfriend Carrie Symonds is pregnant- let's hope she doesn't have it too.

He's so genius!

U.S. Navy @USNavy

Meet Hospital Corpsman 3rd Class Alex Berry, a native of #StLouis, proud to serve aboard hospital ship #USNSMercy, which is ready to support the people of #LosAngeles, today. #COVID19 #USNavyAlwaysThere

Boris, leading the way on his "let's let everyone get it and develop her immunity" plan! Pip pip!

Spain’s doctors forced to choose who dies as coronavirus patients flood hospitals

Dr. Daniel Bernabeu, who works at Madrid’s La Paz hospital, said new guidelines encourage doctors to prioritize giving rooms to younger patients instead of older ones, Bloomberg reported.

“That grandpa, in any other situation, would have had a chance,” Bernabeu told the outlet. “But there’s so many of them, all dying at the same time.”

In addition, the requirements for getting access to intensive care are also getting stricter — with rooms also held for younger patients, whose lungs tend to collapse faster, the outlet reported.

“We are completely overwhelmed,” Bernabeu said.

Disturbing footage has already emerged from Spain’s hospitals of coronavirus patients sprawled out over the floor as they wait for rooms.

Spain has reported more than 56,000 confirmed cases as of Thursday morning, making it the second-most infected country in Europe, after Italy.

Doctors at the center of the outbreak in Italy have also described chilling scenes in which they are forced to grapple with who gets to receive a life-saving ventilator.

Worldwide, there have been more than 491,000 cases as the death toll climbs to at least 22,000, according to a tally from Johns Hopkins University.

Sad that none of these motherfuckers will die though. I bet they have access to testing and medication that normal people don't have. Rand Paul will emerge in a week and let everyone know this wasn't so bad and we should go back to work now.

What a shocker! Made-in-China test kits are shit and don't work!

CNN International @cnni A Chinese government regulatory group has launched an investigation into a coronavirus test kit maker that sent supplies to Spain.

Yesterday, the Spanish government said it was recalling 9,000 kits after finding the results to be “unreliable.”

Someone should puncture Rand Paul's other lung.

I still should have been credited for the new title, which I suggested on Wednesday.

Also, the quote should have been by Stevie from "Stand Back," like:

[quote]"In the middle of my room, I did not hear from you..."

(Get it?)

Anyway, "Stand Back" by the legendary Stevie Nicks is on the August 2002 GAP In-Store Playlist!

Is he MAGAt hot?

[quote]Hold onto your Panties America! Elton John & @FoxNews are teaming up to beg (suffering) Americans to donate their money for #WuhanVirus. Why don’t the RICH simply donate and save us all from watching them pander. #ChineseVirus #COVIDー19 #KAG2020 #MAGA

Apparently, Boris will self isolate for 7 days. Please tell me that he has a face to face meeting with Trump on day 8. Pretty please.

When Chelsea Clinton tweeted about her parents sending pizza to those hospitals, she admitted that Pizzagate crossed her mind.

Hillary responded that the conspiracy theorists need something to do right now too.

r247 link?

⏳ CORONA TIME 💊 MARCH 27 8:45 AM EST

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 550,304

DEATHS: 24,903

CRITICAL: 21,047

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 85,749

DEATHS: 1,304

CRITICAL; 2,122 (NOT UPDATED)

#DumpTrumpNow

#BeforeHeKillsUsAll

Why is Dr. Birx is minimizing the severity of the outbreak and the desperation of doctors and nurses for ventilators?

What's her background? Is she power hungry? Is she a MAGA cult member?

I think journalists need to investigate her more deeply, rather than just praising her and talking about her apparel.

A cat has tested positive in Belgium

Guardian- The Belgian government has advised people to wash their hands before touching their pets after a cat was diagnosed as having contracting the coronavirus from its owner, in an apparent world first, writes Daniel Boffey in Brussels.

During a daily press conference by scientists working with the federal government, virologist Steven Van Gucht, said the infection appeared to be an isolated case and that the animal’s health is now improving.

He said: “A week after the owner developed symptoms, the animal also developed symptoms,” said virologist Steven Van Gucht. “It was diarrhoea, vomiting and breathing difficulties. The researchers found the virus in the cat’s faees. Two dogs were previously reported to have been infected in Hong Kong but neither of those animals had symptoms.

Van Gucht said: “There are no indications that this is common. It is also important to note that it was a transfer from human to animal and not from animal to human. The virus does not normally pass from animal to human. We therefore consider the risk to people to be small. ”

The Federal Food Agency in Belgium has made a number of recommendations to protect pets.

If an owner becomes infected with the coronavirus, they are are requested to keep the animal inside and to keep contact between owner and animal to a minimum.

The National Council for Animal Protection (CNPA) said the development should not be a cause of alarm. “Animals are not vectors of the epidemic, so there is no reason to abandon your animal,” the organisation said in a statement.

How are the smug Scandinavians doing?

R252, the cat's human - not a vet - diagnosed the cat himself? WTF.

r252 link or it didn't happen

[quote]How are the smug Scandinavians doing?

Standing tall and blonde r253.

Here's a link about the infected cat in Belgium

Ten days ago, the US had 5200 confirmed cases of coronavirus and 92 deaths.

Today, the US has 85,000+ cases and 1200+ deaths.

Here's the link.

[quote][R247] link?

Link.

If the virus can be transmitted from human to pets in an exceptional cases, then maybe it could also go the other way around. This is when freaky shit can happen.

Health secretary also has it

Guardian-Following the news that the prime minister, Boris Johnson, has tested positive for coronavirus, the health secretary, Matt Hancock, has also confirmed he has the virus.

Market is down a lot, but CNBC is still sucking off Cheeto.

Not sure if this has already been mentioned here

BBC-A stockpile of 1.5 million N95 masks is sitting in a US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) warehouse as hospitals across the US face critical shortfalls of personal safety equipment. The masks are expired, but still effective against the coronavirus according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. According to the Washington Post, DHS officials decided the masks should be given to the transportation security agents who monitor US airports.

[QUOTE] If the virus can be transmitted from human to pets in an exceptional cases, then maybe it could also go the other way around. This is when freaky shit can happen.

"freaky" = conspirafrau/frausleuth-speak = BLOCKED

Boris Johnson, UK Prime Minister tests positive:

Birx, quisling:

On March 26, 2020, Dr. Birx appeared on stage with President Trump's Coronavirus Task Force and stated "there is no situation in the United States right now that warrants that kind of discussion [that ventilators or ICU hospital beds might be in limited supply]...You can be thinking about it...but to say that to the American people, to make the implication that when they need a hospital bed, it's not going to be there, or when they need that ventilator, it's not going to be there, we don't have evidence of that right now."[13][14]

At the time Dr. Brix said this, New York City hospitals had begun sharing ventilators between multiple patients, and there was ample and well-sourced evidence of the fact that ventilators and ICU beds were in short and diminishing supply.[15] [16] [17] The New York Times, CNN, ABC News, and several other outlets were each reporting that New York City hospitals had begun triage, taking patients off of ventilators, splitting ventilators between multiple patients, and discouraging other patients from admission due to a lack of ICU beds.

I had a really amazing dream last night that Trump died. Actually not of covid but of a heart attack. It was so hard to wake up to reality.

From the cat-got-infected story above:

[quote] Two dogs were previously reported to have been infected in Hong Kong but neither of those animals had symptoms.

There must be more to this than is written in this sentence or it’s poorly drafted (or both). If the two dogs didn’t have any symptoms, then why would they be tested for COVID-19? Maybe they had symptoms that had been resolved.

And now this

BBC-There are fears about the long-term implications of a global condom shortage after the world's largest manufacturer was forced to stop production due to the coronavirus outbreak. Karex Berhad's three factories in Malaysia have been shut for 10 days already, meaning there are already 100 million fewer condoms, the company's chief executive Goh Miah Kiat told news agency Reuters. The company, which produces one in five of the world's condoms, is now appealing to the Malaysian government for a partial exemption from a nationwide lockdown.

I blocked GapPlayListGuy

What a moron who contributes nothing to the conversation

No one uses condoms in 2020 r270

California teen who died of COVID-19 denied treatment because he didn't have insurance

R269 I read somewhere that one of the dogs was held in quarantine and suddenly died after being released

[quote]It was so hard to wake up to reality.

Wait - is it 11/9/2016 again?

Ughhh he's speaking again. He's doing a weird UN roll call.

The pet thing is mostly BS.

I remember when the first dog was “positive” they said it wasn’t showing symptoms - they thought that it had the virus in its nasal passages from its owner (who was infected).

I have a headache imagining Cheeto being reelected. I think America is just that dumb.

From r277 article:

[quote] Unless owners are able to work from home, or their home is their work, their sociable canids must stay captive and alone for the majority of their days.

Though, they ARE asleep more than half the time.

Dr, Becky Scarf is the new Ambassador of Evil.

R273, that's a tragedy. How can a child be without healthcare in the so-called greatest country in history? How can a child not be treated in a pandemic? It's bad enough if he was turned away for health care services at any old time, but during a global pandemic? It's a global pandemic and the clinic went by the book and insisted on insurance coverage.

I can't see how US healthcare isn't morally bankrupt.

Update for the UK:

BBC-The number of coronavirus deaths in the UK has risen from 578 to 759, according to the Department of Health. This is the biggest rise in deaths that the country has seen so far. 14,579 have now tested positive for the disease, including UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

Real life Alan Krumwiede pushing his brand of Forsythia:

[quote]There must be more to this than is written in this sentence or it’s poorly drafted (or both). If the two dogs didn’t have any symptoms, then why would they be tested for COVID-19? Maybe they had symptoms that had been resolved

I can't find the article now, but around the time the HK dog was said to be "positive", it was later determined that virus had been found on the animal's fur—from its human having touched it. The virus is not just infecting every species it comes into contact with.

Interesting how so many public figures who are testing positive only have "mild symptoms"

[quote]I think America is just that dumb.

NO—we're dumber.

Big Data will take a prominent role in the next few months. We thought our privacy was under threat before the pandemic!

[quote]Interesting how so many public figures who are testing positive only have "mild symptoms"

80% of EVERYONE who tests positive have either mild symptoms or NO symptoms.

Interestingly some of the more remote places that have not yet had case are already setting up testing sites and expanding access to test more people. Thanks to the warning NYC is giving and the resultant early shutdowns in less affected states, these places may be able to implement a Germany/Taiwan approach and monitor infections, contacts and isolation/quarantines to avoid widespread infection.

Red states may be saved because Blue states were hit first and forced action from Red states they would not have done otherwise.

Louisiana is a red state and it's a fucking mess

It also has a Democratic governor. That's where they'll go.

Now people understand the dilemma of gay men - the demand for tops is far exceeding the demand for bottoms

USA 92,206

Will be at 100K by this afternoon.

Gov. Cuomo says the peak could be 21 days away. 21 DAYS until the peak! How many people will die before and after? Frightening!

CNN-New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the state is looking at "about 21 days for a possible apex" for the peak number of coronavirus cases.

He continued: "So we want to do everything we can to be ready for that increased capacity that could hit us in 21 days and ramp up the hospital capacity."

He said that, at that time, New York will need 140,000 hospital beds. There are currently 53,000 beds.

CNN/MSNBC hosts and guests pleading with Trump to stop the back to work by Easter claims and use his executive power for more PPE etc...What they don’t get is Trump will NEVER listen to them about CV...It has to impact him personally (i.e. princess Ivanka or him). Only then, he *might* change course because he is affected personally. Otherwise, deaf ears.

Cuomo briefings is must watch TV for me, but the last couple of days, he gone a little long on the "win one for the gipper" speeches. Take a day or two off and then come back with the inspirational spiel.

Our Department of Health Director said that according to the models based on their best data we could have 8,000 cases a day at the epidemic's peak. The reporter asking the question seemed a bit freaked out by her answer.

We have 867 cases and 15 dead in Ohio.

[quote]Red states may be saved because Blue states were hit first and forced action from Red states they would not have done otherwise.

That should be the case, but the US had a lot of lead time in preparing based on what was happening in China and parts of Europe and it didn't help us much. The dumb are following the lead of the dumber.

We might be able to go back to work etc by mid-May earliest.

Loved Cuomo's answer about 140,000 beds and 30,000 ventilators--based on data and projection and not opinion and desires. So clearly delineating his approach from Trump's haphazardly stupid whimsies.

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R300

R300. Yeah. April is absolutely fantastical thinking (so of course, Trump). May at the practically earliest. June-July potentially, depending on how it goes. August-September quite possibly, but then there will be the concern of a next wave. October-November probably, or else we're all in deeper shit (or are already in deeper shit). As well, I expect an autumn workplace, school, and event settings to have all sorts of new protocol to minimize exposure to each other, and local, regional, and even national lockdowns as a smoother matter of course.

Consider a summer of distancing no matter what news you get. If only for your caution.

I think it has to be made more clear that this is about saving millions of lives in USA alone - directly and indirectly, and of all age groups.

What happened to Syria and the hordes of refugees unleashed from Turkey?

David Lat's husband has said he's improved a little.

Trump claimed on Twitter thousands of ventilators were found in NY while Cuomo was still speaking - unused. Like they were hiding them or something. Did anyone ask him about this or did he address this?

Also lol at Trump complaining on Twitter that GM and Ford "promised" him ventilators and now they are not delivering on that promise and even want "top dollars" for them. Did anyone see that coming? Anyone? LOL LOL LOL LOL

⏳ CORONA TIME 💊 MARCH 27 12:30 PM EST

🌎GLOBAL

CASES: 566,064

DEATHS: 25,422

CRITICAL: 21,416

🇺🇸UNITED STATES

CASES: 93,151

DEATHS: 1,382

CRITICAL: 2,432

r296 - It would be nicely Shakespearean. The beautiful Ivanka dying of the plague at the end of this saga. Hopefully her brothers Goneril and Regan come to no good ends as well.

R284 and why is that cocksucker Jim Bakker not in jail?

With regard to Corona, Andrew Cuomo is so well educated he sound like a licensed medical professional.

New Yorkers must be so proud to have him leading the battle in their state.

I would be proud to call him my president.

Time Magazine should name Cuomo as [italic] Person of the Year.

It's amazing to me that some people, including so called experts, think that they know EVERYTHING there is to know about this virus based on less than 6 months of data, a lot of which comes from China. "It can't do this", "It can't do that", etc., etc., At this point there are only a few things that are certain:

(1) This virus is highly contagious (2) Elderly people with underlying health conditions account for a disproportionate number of deaths (3) The mortality rate is higher than the common flu

EVERYTHING else is on the fucking table despite what YOU may have read or heard.

Hoda Kotb breaks down after interviewing New Orleans Saints QB about his $5 million donation to New Orleans.

[quote]Time Magazine should name Cuomo as Person of the Year.

I'm actually thinking that this is the first time they might not award it to the winner of the presidential election.

⚡ Well there's a Bolt Outta' The Blue from r312 !

Stunning news from Italy

Guardian-Italy has recorded its highest daily rise in COVID-19 deaths, with 919 new fatalities. It brings the country’s coronavirus death toll to 9,134.

Trump & Mikey P don't want to release those stockpiled ventilators and other supplies right now......

😂😂😂😂😂 ......."just in case the virus peaks!"

It's confirmed, Birx is a Republican shill like the rest of them.

Aaron Rupar @atrupar

"[Trump is] so attentive to the scientific literature & the details & the data. I think his ability to analyze & integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit” -- this is shocking, hackish stuff from Dr. Birx.

R316 Damn, that’s AWFUL. And there are still 6 more hours before their day ends.

R316, there is going to be so much written/researched about what is happening in Italy. Stunning, horrible.

Wait a minute, R294. The noted epidemiologist and statistician at R29 said we wouldn't hit 100k by the weekend.

Kevin McCarthy, “Our top priority is keeping Americans at work.”

Scum of the Earth!

Why is Hoda Kotb not at home taking care of those two very young children that she wanted do desperately to adopt? One of them is an infant.

She's 55 years, old, that's close to the dangerous age for Corona.

In times like these, most mothers desperately want to be at home with their children. She doesn't have to be there. The show will go on without her presence in the studio.

Ohio is red and they're struggling with this...I just want to affirm that red states, such as Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Ohio, Louisiana are going to be great affected by COVID 19. Only Governor Dewine is taking active measures against it.

I told you guys the scarf lady is a fascist. She is Jill Stein.

Italy's first death from the virus was on 21 February. Italy has suffered the equivalent of more than three 9/11s over the space of about five weeks.

R324: And Mississippi with their shit Gov. He overrode the major’s stay at home order!

Nobody cares about Mississippi. One of the poorest taker states.

I’m a healthcare worker in a major hospital and the hero worship going on, fuelled by the media makes me cringe a little. I don’t feel like a martyr for my chosen profession or deserving of national rounds of applause when so many of my good friends have lost their jobs, incomes, livelihoods etc this past few weeks and some are staring down the barrel of homelessness. I feel grateful to still have a job and way of making rent and the whole parade makes me uncomfortable because the industries I used to work in (former cook) have just collapsed and taken down my friends with them. One of my best friends works for an airline. I’m afraid to ask her how she’s going.

Any other healthcare workers feeling the same kind of vague discomfort? It’s almost like this imposter syndrome in the ability to keep my life afloat because I chose this field by chance when I went to college. It’s hard to articulate.

Well, that mayor is trying to kill them so they stop costing the state and their city money...they probably collect a lot in benefits.

R329, are they treating everyone? or just the younger ones?

Sigh, major = mayor!

Yes, but it is wrong that the MS governor is thwarting that mayor’s attempt to protect his county.

[quote]Stunning news from Italy Guardian-Italy has recorded its highest daily rise in COVID-19 deaths, with 919 new fatalities. It brings the country’s coronavirus death toll to 9,134.

But the number of new cases is going down.

R333, do you know the number of new cases in Italy today? I've Googled but I can only find the death count. (That's a morbid thing to type.)

Don't worry about your friends, R329. They can get unemployment and with the new relief package, some will be getting even more than if they worked.

R331, I’m in Australia and in my state we still haven’t saturated our resources or capacity (yet). Everyone is being treated who needs treatment. Very few have needed admitting to the hospital after positive test in my area. Lack of PPE already but no shortage of ICU beds or ventilators in my hospital currently. That said, there are far more cases out there than have been tested. Strict criteria to be tested here. Have to prove you have been overseas or in contact with someone who has. That will surely be broadened soon.

^^worldometers.info

Fyi, there is a small discrepancy in the deaths for Italy. Guardian is reporting 919 deaths today while others are reporting 969. This is because the Guardian had already included 50 deaths in yesterday's total that were reported after the official figures were released. I have been really impressed with the Guardian's reporting so far. They are really on top of this story and report news much faster than CNN and other channels

"Coronavirus Freakout 27: Essence of Density" My suggestion for the next thread title (I know it's early, MARY!) based on Gov. Cuomo's presser today. The "Essence of Density" is Downstate NY, where he's planning to place the Army Corps/FEMA emergency hospitals: one in each of NYC's five boroughs plus Nassau, Suffolk, and Westchester counties.

See 44:28 in the YouTube vid...

Teen who died from Covid-19 was refused treatment because he didn't have health insurance

R339, oh we're probably not going to hit 600 posts until next weekend. There's no way, we'll pass China in number of posts...

R333 Italy’s new cases/day is NOT going down. They have 5,909 new cases so far today (with 5 hours still to go) and had 6,203 yesterday.

From "IlFatto"

"Coronavirus, in un giorno sono morte 969 persone. Oltre 86mila casi. Ma la curva ricomincia a calare."

In one day 969 dead. More than 86,000 cases. But the curve is beginning to flatten again.

From "IlFatto” does not know how to do math.

I hate all the sports analogies used in politics. Chuck "Nerd" Todd does it all the time on Meet the Press and "Endgame" and stuff.

But finally, here's the best sports analogy ever. Trump had a conference call with all the Governors, and this happened.

[quote] Trump: "My administration is ready to be the “backup” for states in crisis."

[quote] Gov. Inslee: “We don’t need a backup. We need a Tom Brady."

R344 Can you read Italian? Are you reading today's Italian newspapers?

Italy my heart💔

Lord, how can you forsake such a beautiful place and people so.

Pray for us all, with our psycho in chief at the helm. Trying to take us all to hell.

R346: Yes, I am half Italian. Also, I can do Math - which is universal.

Earlier today from Italy

Guardian-In Italy, the frontline of Europe’s battle against Covid-19, disease infections have not yet reached their peak, according to the head of the country’s national health institute, who warned that lockdown measures would have to be extended.

Washington Post:

Republican Rep. Massie ratchets up his obstinance, forces House colleagues back to D.C.

Even other Republicans are saying Massie is a massive cunt.

Italy March 27th:

Silvio Brusaferro, presidente dell'Istituto superiore di sanità (Iss):

"There are signs of a slowdown, which makes us believe that we are close, we could peak in the next few days."

Now that this drama is over, can we please get back to the real story which is how can we prevent this horrible virus from harming us and our loved ones. FUCK wall street

BBC-The US House of Representatives has passed the largest ever fiscal stimulus bill in history to combat the economic effects of the coronavirus. The bill, allowing for $2 trillion (£1.7tr) in funding, has already been approved by the Senate and now goes to President Trump to sign into law.

Headline in todays Corriere Della Sera:

Brusaferro (Iss): «Dal 19-20 marzo la curva dei nuovi casi sembra attenuarsi»

But of course R344 knows better.

R352 That's what they were saying days ago. Time will tell.

Damn!! Now people are dying ON the fucking ships! Just say HELL NO to cruises for now

Guardian-Four people have died on a cruise ship stranded off the coast of Panama amid a Covid-19 outbreak on board, the boat’s owners have confirmed. A boat-to-boat rescue operation is under way near the entrance to the Panama canal to help healthy passengers off the Zaandam cruise liner, where two people have tested positive for the disease and another 138 have influenza-like symptoms.

This is going to flair up in the red states right before Easter

R357. And for many months after. Unfortunately, it is just getting started there

Any info on how older Italian legends -- Sophia Loren, Claudia Cardinale, Giancarlo Giannini, etc. - are doing?

[quote]Even other Republicans are saying Massie is a massive cunt.

Even Cheeto has come out against him, which makes me not know what to think.

Cruise ships 🛳 literal death traps

R360 Takes a grandstanding cunt to know a grandstanding cunt.

Does anyone think the way deaths and even if survive, damage is happening that this virus actually is a bioweapon? Men who recover may be sterile afterwards.

What of reinfection?

Why so many unresolved cases?

Is this virus something like HSV or HIV that we must live with for life?

R297, Daddy Cuomo had to deliver an “inspirational spiel” today because he was addressing the National Guard who’d been constructing a makeshift hospital. And they’ll have a very rough few months ahead.

R363 hysterical old geezer alert

Florida already in 5th place for # of cases and they don't even adequate testing and the governor still won't shut the state down

Florida is going to be an epicenter in 1-2 weeks

Has Washington turned the corner?They don't seem to be having a lot of new cases or new deaths

[quote]Math - which is universal.

Judging by this crisis, most Americans can only count to 20 in open-toed shoes.

When it rains it pours

The UK government's chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty has said he is self-isolating after experiencing symptoms of coronavirus last night. Prof Whitty has led the UK's medical response and appears in the government's public information films. Known symptoms of the virus include a persistent dry cough and a raised temperature.

R356 Washington didn't appear to report any new cases (per Worldometer), so maybe they have. But they've still got a high death percentage: 4.5% .. It would appear that Louisiana will knock them out of that spot, as they just added another 441 new cases, and their death percentage is already at 4.3%

Handsome Dem. Congressman Joe Cunningham has tested positive for the virus. Pray for him.

Handsome Dem. Congressman Joe Cunningham has tested positive for the virus. Pray for him.

"Does anyone think the way deaths and even if survive, damage is happening that this virus actually is a bioweapon? "

Yes created by Mother Nature as a big fuck you to humanity.

One of our local nursing homes is so desperate to hire, they're holding open interview for two days to fill all positions from housekeeping and dietary to CNA's , LPN's , and RN's.

I worked there in my senior year in high school. If they waive the mandatory drug testing for new employees, they'll have those positions filled in a heartbeat ! 😜

Very brave of you to try and answer that question, r372.

The meme that COVID-19 was created by Chinese scientists is pure old-school anti-Asian shit straight out of a Fu Manchu movie. It's contemptible.

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I'm betting we're going to be over 1500 deaths by the end of today.

UK

Friday 27/3/20 = 14,543 cases (up 2,885)

759 deaths total

As long as we’re on this Lockdown Lite, it’s going to get much worse. We need more serious measures.

Co' Vida Rochelle

I think the overall death rate is higher than 1%. There are probably a lot of deaths that did not occur at the hospital.

It just seems like way more that 1%.

R359: Lucia Bose succumbed to the Virus a couple of days ago. In Spain.

On the other side - shouldn't we be hearing about "80% of people" diagnosed in February recovering? It's been nearly three weeks since the announcement of some of the Biogen cluster in MA. If the virus takes 2 weeks or so to pass through most people unless they have underlying issues (then it's 3-6 weeks), shouldn't some of the Biogen people be recovered by now?

Doesn’t anyone else think splitting ventilators seems janky and possibly dangerous?

This is getting extremely nerve-racking. I was handling it all decently but watching the administration manslaughter people for political gain is very upsetting. It’s like they want people to die. As crazy as that sounds they must see some advantage to letting people die by the thousands.

Maybe they plan to deny everything and gaslight their way to reelection. I don’t get it. But the administration could seriously curb this if they wanted too.

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R385 not really sure the benefit to Blue states having die off, because with electoral college he still won’t win them.

I love how Trump and Hannity keep trying to compare Obama & H1N1 with coronavirus now. It's going to come back to bite Trump in his fat orange ass. This is going to get much worse than H1N1

[quote]The meme that COVID-19 was created by Chinese scientists is pure old-school anti-Asian shit straight out of a Fu Manchu movie.

Except for the coincidence of the BSL-4 lab in Wuhan, which exists to study—and even alter—the world's most dangerous pathogens. I'm not saying SARS-CoV-2 was or wasn't created in China's BSL-4 facility, or that it did or didn't leak from there. However, any critical thinker should be aware of the hazards of BSL-3 and -4 labs (and not just the one in China), and there is nothing anti-Asian about pointing out that reality.

If patients are properly assessed and monitored, splitting respirators is an acceptable lifesaving treatment.

[quote]This is going to get much worse than H1N1

It's already worse and it's barely begun. H1N1 killed 12,469 Americans, Covid-19 is over 14,000 today.

[quote]Trump complaining on Twitter that GM and Ford "promised" him ventilators

Would this work? Maybe ol' Don can give 'er a go first?

To bad we never seem to get any real leaks from the administration. It’s always like “the president feels this.. or thinks that...” instead of catching this thug red handed. Where is the audio of him canceling the MI equipment. We need stuff like that.

Omarosa never released her tapes.

But according to the asshole in charge everything is fine and we have everything under control

BBC-Sonja Reinert, a nurse in a maternity ward at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia, made an emotional plea on her Facebook page, calling for people to look around for any masks they may have at home. She also said that people had been stealing hand sanitizers from the hospital and staff were no longer able to leave them around patients' rooms."We need them. We don't have a lot. If you have face masks, any kind of face mask is better than nothing."The hospital is holding a donation drive to collect protective gear for medical workers. At least 56 people have died from coronavirus in Georgia.

H1N1-09 US figures: 60 million "positives", 274K hospitalized; 12.5K fatalities; mortality rate: 0.02%.

Trump, his minions, and Deplorables are going to say the China Flu is nothing compared to this, ignoring the lower mortality rate.

R7 it is impossible to humiliate kellyisacunt. Like the bastard she sold her soul to nothing you say will get through to her. Hopefully there is a hell they can both burn to eternity.

Rush Limbaugh today:

“I think it’s imperative that we have somebody like Donald Trump, who is outside the establishment, expert class, who has a history of solving problems, to actually lead the country through this.

“... the American people did not elect a bunch of health experts that we don’t know. We didn’t elect a president to defer to a bunch of health experts that we don’t know. And how do we know they’re even health experts?

“Well, they wear white lab coats, and they’ve been in the job for a while, and they’re at the CDC and they’re at the NIH, and they’re up, well — yeah, they’ve been there, and they are there. But has there been any job assessment for them?”

⏳ CORONA TIME 💊 MARCH 27 3:25 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 385,343

DEATHS: 26,853

CRITICAL: 22,086

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 96,968

DEATHS: 1,477

CRITICAL: 2,463

[quote] Even Cheeto has come out against him, which makes me not know what to think.

What to think? That even a stopped clock is right twice a day, R360.

Trump and his groupies need to fuck all the way off so that people who actually know what the fuck they're doing can take control. I'm sick of them treating an ongoing global crisis as an opportunity to pimp their fan fictions.

⏳ Correction to my post @ r398:

Global Cases: 585,343

I notice that Trump purposely neglected to mention that Massie is a Republican.

A genius!

Mexican governor sparks outrage after claiming poor are ‘immune’ to coronavirus

A state governor in Mexico sparked outrage Wednesday when he claimed poor people are immune to the coronavirus.

Gov. Luis Miguel Barbosa of the state of Puebla, southeast of Mexico City, said, “The majority are wealthy people,” after the government revealed three-quarters of the country’s 475 confirmed cases are from people returning from international travel.

By Thursday the country had 110 news cases, according to Reuters.

Does anyone have any theories as to why the administration is purposely manslaughtering Americans?

That is clearly what they are doing. But why?

This is like Hunger Games come to life.

they are trying to kill off the old folks so they don't have to pay out social security...just my 2 cents.

However, I read that in NYC over 50 percent of infected are under 50

Trump & Mikey P = Twin Peaks

[quote]As crazy as that sounds they must see some advantage to letting people die by the thousands.

[quote]Maybe they plan to deny everything and gaslight their way to reelection.

Maybe there's an analogy here with Nixon's late Vietnam policy which needlessly led to thousands more American deaths than otherwise might have occurred. Spielberg's excellent 'The Paper' drew a clear analogy between The Pentagon Papers and Trump's approach to transparency, let alone human decency.

Early on in the bad enough early times of Trump's 'Presidency' there were understandable constant allusions to The Third Reich: not least when Trump called the KKK 'very fine people.' Then there was the persistent reference to Trump actually having Hitler's speeches as a bedside book.

The floating of the idea of de facto death panels - elders 'sacrificed', youngers if so afflicted - for the sake of The Economy, to MAGA, hardly dispels any of the above. A cure can never be worse than a problem, by definition. Anyone who gives this glib smug pseudo-insightful slogan respect has been gaslit, and wants to be. They want to drink the Kool-Aid.

R356 A boat crammed full of old people passing the virus all over the place sounds like a recipe for disaster. WHY did these idiots get on a fucking cruise ship in the first place?

Well if someone could figure out the true reason the republicans are letting everybody die ON PURPOSE then maybe it can be stopped.

Republicans must see some advantage to mass deaths that are completely unnecessary. They could stop this today if they quit blocking states access to life saving supplies.

It has became crystal clear that republicans want these people to die. They question is why?

It’s not racist to question why the fuck we were lied to Oe misled repeatedly about, the circumstances regarding it, from how it evolved, who it affects, how it transmits and how dangerous it ! Not to mention all the lying about masks and gloves not being helpful or necessary !

Why did the WHO and CDC down play for so long ?!?! God love Italy, only reason why people started to really pay attention

[quote]It has became crystal clear that republicans want these people to die. They question is why?

Well, it gets a lot of old people off the Social Security rolls.

[quote]45 doctors who tested positive for coronavirus have died in Italy, the Italian Association of Doctors said Friday. The death toll comes after there was an urgent call for medical protective equipment from the President of the association, Filippo Anelli, on Thursday.

I read that 10% of hospitalized covid-19 patients in Spain are health workers.

[quote]I think it’s imperative that we have somebody like Donald Trump, who is outside the...expert class

Never a truer word spoken, Rush.

[quote]who has a history of solving problems

Going to need a link for that history, Rush. We'll wait.

I'm waiting for the first death from DOVID-19 in that Deplorable stronghold, The Villages. Then we'll see some wailing and gnashing of teeth from Red States and action by their governors.

Pope Francis praying alone in the middle of an empty St. Peter’s Square.

These people are being decimated and they can’t even go to church.

When will we get to 100,000 cases?

R404 Because Trump is the antichrist willing to sacrifice thousands of Americans for the sake of the economy. IT is the only thing that he cares about! He has made this perfectly clear via his tweets and his press conferences. So far, he has only expressed empathy once when the first person died in the US. A "wonderful woman" he said. Turned out to be a man. Since then, hundreds have died and not a fucking word. He is pure evil.

The good news is that we didn't make it to 100k cases by the weekend, which I thought was a given a few days ago. Let's be thankful for that at least.

[quote]The good news is that we didn't make it to 100k cases by the weekend, which I thought was a given a few days ago. Let's be thankful for that at least.

O RLY?

Inside the Javits Center where the National Guard is building a field hospital. Looks like every ‘room’ has a potted plant for some reason.

USA 100K

USA 100,037

[quote]So far, he has only expressed empathy once when the first person died in the US. A "wonderful woman" he said.

That wasn't empathy, it was lip service. The one and only thing Donald cares about is Donald. Everyone else is either a tool to be used or an enemy.

R421 Where are the bathrooms though? Looks like one gigantic space has been sectioned off into ‘rooms.’

For R419:

USA 100,037

It would make a lot of sense to convert gay bathhouses into makeshift hospital wards to treat patients with CV. They're perfectly laid out to do it.

Has anyone considered the possibility that this is all just an unusually elaborate fever dream?

[quote]The meme that COVID-19 was created by Chinese scientists is pure old-school anti-Asian shit straight out of a Fu Manchu movie.

Oh please. Yeah, right it's racism. How ignorant can you be?

r427: I wish. I wake up each and look outside at the sunny day with a smile, then I remember and dash to MSNBC and my computer with anxiety. I can’t even enjoy disaster movies anymore. Too close to home :(

[quote]Does anyone have any theories as to why the administration is purposely manslaughtering Americans?

We already know the answer, out of his own mouth: re-election.

R425 The US has done next to nothing in stopping the spread of the virus, or provide the medical workers with enough protective gears. This is a trainwreck in the making. There will many deaths coming our way over the next few weeks. Buckle up... it will be a bumpy ride.

CNN: Trump invokes defense production act, ordering GM to make ventilators.

China closed their movie theatres again. So much for them having no new cases.

Oh? I thought they were reopening the movie theaters in shanghai? FUCKING CUNTS! I HATE THE CHINESE! only those from china...

Took him long enough. 500 people have died just in the last two days.

[quote] Has anyone considered the possibility that this is all just an unusually elaborate fever dream?

Not exactly. But I do think back on the thread about the probability that our world is a simulation and not "real," so this would be the part of the SIM where those in control introduce a virus into the model to compare/contrast it with the reaction 100 years ago.

CNBC:

Trump orders General Motors to make ventilators under Defense Production Act

R433 The businesses got ahead of themselves without consulting with the government. Almost all cases are now linked to the arrival of infected people from Europe, the US and elsewhere. They can't safely open the theaters or schools until they can deal with the imported cases. Foreigners are already no longer allowed in but the best way to close the borders entirely to all travelers. Then China can evacuate Chinese nationals using special charter planes from those countries that won't do anything to contain the virus.

Trump is going to have a signing ceremony for the CV relief act in the oval office later today. Only Republicans will be there. Democrats are NOT invited. Guest list is below.

He is such a petty little bitch.

Hope one of them is a super spreader r439

Bad day for Dow (-915 points) after several days of gains thanks to various global stimulus plans. Next week is going to be a disaster for the markets as the crisis continues to expand. Rough times ahead.

Washington Post:

House passes $2 trillion coronavirus bill as problems for households and businesses continue to mount

SF Chronicle: California Governor Gavin Newsom bans evictions through May 31 against tenants who have previously paid their rent and now cannot because they were laid off, lost hours or had to miss work to care for a child or a sick family member during the pandemic.

“Nothing to see here”

Trump signs $2 trillion coronavirus bill into law as companies and households brace for more economic pain

Its obvious that rethug scumbags don’t care about getting re-elected, they just cashed in their stocks and told the rest of us that ‘it sucks to be you!’

NYT: A Heart Attack? No, It Was the Coronavirus.

Cardiologists are seeing infected patients whose worst symptoms are not respiratory, but cardiac.

The 64-year-old patient arrived at a hospital in Brooklyn with symptoms looking like those seen in patients having a serious heart attack.

An electrocardiogram revealed an ominous heart rhythm. The patient had high blood levels of a protein called troponin, a sign of damaged heart muscle. Doctors rushed to open the patient’s blocked arteries — but found that no arteries were blocked.

The patient was not having a heart attack. The culprit was the coronavirus.

[Quote] Trump is going to have a signing ceremony for the CV relief act in the oval office later today

I bet it will be a beautiful, beautiful thing.

Why did China shut up the doctors in the first place who were raising the alarm? What of the Huigers (sp?) What of CCP assertion, that SARS-Cov2 was brought over by US military in November?

What about how vaping also create ground glass particulates in the lungs and also causing fibrosis

r427, tell that to people who are drowning in their own lung fluid, friend.

I'm waiting for the reports of yachts found floating around and private billionaire hideaways filled with nothing but rotten corpses.

Now 322 positive cases in my state, eight deaths. We were at 106 on Tuesday. COVID-19 is now present (officially) in 38 of the 77 counties.

I was reading an article about why Italy is being hit so hard, and most reasons by now are understood. But here's one that is interesting-

[quote]Dense population

[quote]There isn’t a lot of space in Italy for people to spread out in. Italy is a densely populated country, with an average density of 533 people per square mile. In comparison, Germany has a population density of 235 people per square mile while the U.S. has 94.

[quote] Two-thirds of Italians live in urban areas that are even more dense. Rome has 5,800 people per square mile, and Milan packs more than 19,000 people into every square mile. That’s almost twice the density of Berlin and Washington, D.C.

I looked up New York City and found

[quote] New York City: 27,000 people per square mile

Yikes, r453.

Agent Orange "Press Conference" coming on shortly (CNN)

[quote] So far, he has only expressed empathy once when the first person died in the US. A "wonderful woman" he said. Turned out to be a man. Since then, hundreds have died and not a fucking word. He is pure evil.

That's what's so shocking ... as thousands die, Trump isn't even willing to fake empathy. You would think he would make some statement about how he understands Americans' pain and fear, if for no other reason than to be able to use it a sound bite in his campaign ads. But he doesn't even pretend to care. Has he ever said a word about the victims, the people who are hospitalized, and their families? Has he ever praised any of the doctors and nurses who are literally working themselves to death to care for the sick? Even the most evil and corrupt people usually have a point where they break down and show some emotion. But not Trump.

⏳ CORONA TIME 💊 MARCH 27. 6:00 PM EST

🌍GLOBAL

CASES: 590,628

DEATHS: 26,966

CRITICAL: 22,086

🇺🇸UNITED STATES

CASES: 100,514

DEATHS: 1,546

CRITICAL: 2,463

[quote]they are trying to kill off the old folks so they don't have to pay out social security...just my 2 cents.

In the early days during the outbreak in Asia, it was being reported that it was primarily the elderly who were dying from COVID-19, and younger people recovered. I am certain that the Trump regime downplayed the disease so that it would affect the elderly and reduce the number of SSI/Medicare recipients. Also, they figured that the disease would hit the poor hard, dropping the number of welfare and Medicaid recipients.

It might take years, but this will all come out. The House should start investigating soon.

Current speaker just made a joke. Trump didn't get it. lol lol

🖥️ The only thing that will be open for business on Easter Sunday is DataLounge.

Betsy Devos is there.

[italic] Beautiful

Incredible

Millions

Respirators

Vaccines

Hotline

Bread

Awed & Inspired

Heroic

War!

More than any other country in the world!

Hot Spots

Mitigation

Battling

Cutting Edge

Win the war soon!

When is the last time Trump checked U.S. stats?

[quote]Betsy Devos is there.

I [italic]loathe[/italic] that woman.

😂😂😂😂😂 We're millions and millions of ventilator for everyone around the world!

We hope. Dear God we hope.

Now itsGeneral motors fault.

Trump to Boris Johnson - Trump: How are you feeling? Boris: We need ventilators!

[bold] BIG 🍟 FAT - BIG 🍔 MAC FUCKING LIAR!

[quote] Betsy Devos is there.

What for?

R469 school closures and lunch programs

Betsy is there because she makes rump look like less than a sociopath.

Is it me Rumps behavior is better today?

He's backing off on Easter.

Trump is first and foremost a salesman. Not statesman. Salesman.

"An Explosion Upward"

Would a photo of a cute dog cheer you up?

Dogs being trained to smell coronavirus to help in battle against disease

Man’s best friend could be about to become humanity’s best friend after a charity said it believes dogs can smell coronavirus.

Medical Detection Dogs, which already does pioneering work in cancer research and diabetes detection, hope they will soon play a vital role in halting the spread.

The charity, based outside Milton Keynes, is working with the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and Durham University. They believe dogs could be trained to sniff out the disease within six weeks to provide a rapid, non-invasive diagnosis.

The charity said: ‘Dogs searching for Covid-19 would be trained in the same way as those dogs the charity has already trained to detect diseases like cancer, Parkinson’s and bacterial infections – by sniffing samples in the charity’s training room and indicating when they have found it. They are also able to detect subtle changes in temperature of the skin, so could potentially tell if someone has a fever.

‘Once trained, dogs could also be used to identify travellers entering the country infected with the virus or be deployed in other public spaces.’

Dr Claire Guest, CEO and co-founder of the charity, said: ‘In principle, we’re sure that dogs could detect Covid-19. We are now looking into how we can safely catch the odour of the virus from patients and present it to the dogs.

‘The aim is that dogs will be able to screen anyone, including those who are asymptomatic, and tell us whether they need to be tested. This would be fast, effective and non-invasive and make sure the limited NHS testing resources are only used where they are really needed.’

Professor James Logan, from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, said: ‘Our previous work demonstrated that dogs can detect odours from humans with a malaria infection with extremely high accuracy – above the World Health Organisation standards for a diagnostic.

‘We know that other respiratory diseases like Covid-19, change our body odour so there is a very high chance that dogs will be able to detect it. This new diagnostic tool could revolutionise our response to Covid-19 in the short term, but particularly in the months to come, and could be profoundly impactful.’

Professor Steve Lindsay at Durham University added: ‘If the research is successful, we could use Covid-19 detection dogs at airports at the end of the epidemic to rapidly identify people carrying the virus. This would help prevent the re-emergence of the disease after we have brought the present epidemic under control.

He is a plant! This is fake!

I read that Prince Charles’ doctor said he wasn’t at any risk and would only have a mild case. WTF? How would he know? He thinks the virus doesn’t hurt rich people, it’s just so dazzled by wealth it tips its hat and passes them by?

[quote]@NYCMayor says enforcement officers will shut down religious gatherings if they occur this weekend

NYC getting hard core.

People are still going to church in NYC? I live in a red state, with a repub governor, and even we have canceled church services.

Pence every day on TV: “We’re doing GREAT. Sending out MILLIONS of masks/test kits/ventilators etc. etc.”

Health care workers every day: “We have NO masks! We can’t get a test! Help!”

R580 It’s Trump’s motto: Repeat something often enough and people will believe it.

[quote]NEW: 512 members of the NYPD have tested positive for COVID-19. That includes 442 uniformed members of the Department, according to the evening summary. A total of 4,111 uniformed employees were out sick today or 11.4% of the NYPD's uniformed workforce.

There’s gonna be fighting in the streets in NYC.

Was that woman cut off cNN betsy?

"Has anyone considered the possibility that this is all just an unusually elaborate fever dream?"

I had that thought just before all of this, like what if I'm on my deathbed (at a ripe old age) and this is just memories?

Donnie and Mikey need to change the 15 day plan to a 365 day plan.

[quote]”We thought we had a deal with General Motors and I guess they thought otherwise...now they agree," Trump says. Unclear what he's referring to - deal was in place and then WH pulled back.

The sexy playoffs seem so, so long ago now...

Would anyone be interested in a support group thread for people (like myself) who aren't handling the anxiety of all this very well? Or should we use these threads?

Why not, Sylvia?

I was a respiratory therapist until 1990, so I know nothing about the ventilators out today, other than they are much more sophisticated. But it occurs to me that building cars and building ventilators are nothing alike. Ventilators need sterilization and exacting assembly and testing. Also, ventilators need all kinds of sterile tubing and filters and water reservoirs that have to be changed out daily. Where are all the supplies coming from? Each type of ventilator may need supplies specially for that brand and type. I just can't see new venilators being built in new factories within a year. And how old are the models in storage that they are bringing out now? Are the supplies available now going to work for these ventilators? And where the hell are they going to find the staff to manage the ventilators and the patients?

We are so screwed. That's all I have to say.

Dear God Trump is a pathetic petty baby. If you are not nice to me I'm not going to help you out. What a fucking loser he is.

r488 - I'm pretty sure someone started a thread along those lines like "How are you coping or how high is your level of anxiety. You should try to find that thread.

Reuters:

Almost one in four Americans lost job or furloughed because of coronavirus, poll finds

New Yorker singing out window told to “shut the fuck up.”

I was thinking the same thing today, r490. The U.K. has Dyson, converting to ventilator production from ....fans, vacuum cleaners, etc. I can see that but I can't see a car factory getting in the field of producing such a specialized medical product.

[quote]And where the hell are they going to find the staff to manage the ventilators and the patients?

Especially when hospitals don’t have MASKS or gowns for them to wear as they get in the faces of COVID-19 patients spewing viruses all over them.

Brian Tyler Cohen:

MUST-SEE: Reporter ENDS fiery interview with Trump official as it goes off the rails

[quote]I can't see a car factory getting in the field of producing such a specialized medical product.

Autos today are very sophisticated products.

With their huge design and engineering capabilities my bet is they'll be in a better position to make these things than a company like Dyson.

Dyson has already made the ventilator R498.

Do we not have a ventilator making company in the US? Is that why GM has been roped in?

Trump wa$n't happy with the propo$ed amount of the kickback from GM. $aid it wa$n't enough.

[quote]Dyson has already made the ventilator

The article does not say that.

It says this: "James Dyson told staff in an email that a team of engineers had been working on a design for 10 days since receiving a request for help from Prime Minister Boris Johnson."

Might I offer my services, Sylvia ?

Amy Klobuchar's husband was released.

"Amy Klobuchar's husband was released."

From Amy Klobuchar?

[quote] The only cooked vegetable I like is broccoli. All the other ones, I only like fresh. It's mostly a texture thing. But also they just taste better raw.

Good luck with the artichoke.

Would the Mexican Governor like to explain the death of the homeless Corona victims?

"It might choke Artie, but it ain't gonna choke Stymie!"

Church?

I live in reddest part of a cherry red state and almost all church services were canceled 2 weeks ago.

Giving up church for Lent was a meme.

R505

Thank you so much. Brilliant. I laughed.

R502 For some reason DL doesn't allow a link to CNN. If you google Dyson made a ventilator you will see the CNN story in the search results.

Dyson said the company had designed and built an entirely new ventilator, called the "CoVent," since he received a call 10 days ago from UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

"This new device can be manufactured quickly, efficiently and at volume," Dyson added, saying that the new ventilator has been designed to "address the specific needs" of coronavirus patients.

If I’m not fussy about what I eat, I’m stocked-up until August 15th or so. I shopped in February but only just counted now. The thing that sucks is that I’ve eaten the good stuff, leaving the crap for daily eating towards the end. But at least I’ll clean out the fridge. The freezer really needs it,

R473 Trump is first and foremost a Con Man. Not statesman. Con Man.

I chuckled at R494's clip. It was like a Family Guy cutaway.

Another thing about testing, I could stop worrying about what I eat. My Cousin with her poz husband could figure out how to live, and visit him in the hospital.

The scarf woman, again today, focused on the people who are neg. “Oh what a waste if you test neg, because you could just turn poz the next day.” That’s not the point! I want to know if I’m poz so I can stop taking precautions that neg people need to take.

This really pisses me off,

R513

It was very NYC.

R513

It was very NYC.

Wonder how long Trump supporters start hating doctors and nurses cause they’re talking shit about Trump’s response to the virus

[quote]Good luck with the artichoke.

Artichokes are great raw. Thinly slice with shaved parmesan. Very Italian.

It would be easier to get through this quarantine if we knew life would return to normal afterwards. But it won't. I can't see any way the global economy won't be damaged. Loads of business will go bust.

Are flights still active?

The Trump supports are around 30%. They are hopeless but they are a minority.

Guys, here is thread 27. It has a decent title which is also the name of a film, a long quote from Camus' The Plague and a poll!

Please use this and don't go with someone who can't keep with the film title theme, has no clue about relevant quotations and refuses to add a poll (i.e the OP of this one)

Why the fuck are you making thread 27 when we still have over 75 comments left R522? I swear to God you people are anal.

R519

That’s my big fear. Reuters had an article today about the predicted rise in crime in Italy and Spain (and the US) as the bottom 20% become more marginalized while necessary goods and services are scarce or overwhelmed.

It’s like pouring gasoline on dry leaves in the forest and then smoking a cigarette. You are stupid if you can’t picture the potential for disaster.

I would NOT want to be anywhere near the Tri-State area right now.

Greater New York needs to quarantined. If not, it will burn the country to the ground.

R523

The asshole who started the new thread is blocked as a troll.

Biden was just on CNN talking about Coronavirus. He may not be perfect, but he is a compassionate guy. He was so empathetic towards the people that called in, and of course said he would rely on scientists. What a different place we would be in if he was President.

Biden was just on CNN talking about Coronavirus. He may not be perfect, but he is a compassionate guy. He was so empathetic towards the people that called in, and of course said he would rely on scientists. What a different place we would be in if he was President.

The threads move at the speed of light and we want a decent thread with a poll and a quotation, not one made by whoever is around when it reaches 600.

The world would be a different place if just about anyone else was president.

Get a fucking life R528.

F&F R528

Suggesting that the pregnant partner of someone you dislike should die from Coronavirus is the epitome of an evil, sick, narcissistic TROLL.

F&F R528

Suggesting that the pregnant partner of someone you dislike should die from Coronavirus is the epitome of an evil, sick, narcissistic TROLL.

F&F R528

Suggesting that the pregnant partner of someone you dislike should die from Coronavirus is the epitome of an evil, sick, narcissistic TROLL.

Good thing I take melatonin.

If anyone is interested, here's a 10 minute video from the head of the office of extramural research at the National Institutes of Health giving a recap of FAQs for grantees from what looks like his kitchen table.

It is always lawful to save a life, Donate that PPE.

Sending good thoughts your way Sylvia.

R534 Maybe it's a good time to be an insomniac

Our Commander in Chief, focused on the big issues that really matter:

[quote]I love Michigan, one of the reasons we are doing such a GREAT job for them during this horrible Pandemic. Yet your Governor, Gretchen “Half” Whitmer is way in over her ahead, she doesn’t have a clue. Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude! #MAGA

Trump is a cunt

USA Update -104,142

Deaths - 1,695

Death rate is much less than 5% in the US.

Holy shit.

Rhode Island police will hunt down New Yorkers seeking refuge.

Rhode Island police began stopping cars with New York plates Friday. On Saturday, the National Guard will help them conduct house-to-house searches to find people who traveled from New York and demand 14 days of self-quarantine.

“Right now we have a pinpointed risk,” Governor Gina Raimondo said. “That risk is called New York City.”

New York is the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., on Friday reporting a total of 44,000 cases. Rhode Island has just over 200, and it has begun an aggressive campaign to keep the virus out and New Yorkers contained, over objections from civil liberties advocates.

Raimondo, a Democrat, said she had consulted lawyers and said while she couldn’t close the border, she felt confident she could enforce a quarantine.

Many New Yorkers have summer houses in Rhode Island, especially in tony Newport, and the governor said the authorities would be checking there.

“Yesterday I announced and today I reiterated: Anyone coming to Rhode Island in any way from New York must be quarantined,” the governor said. “By order. Will be enforced. Enforceable by law.”

Raimondo signed an executive order Thursday that applies to anyone who has been in New York during the past two weeks and through at least April 25. It doesn’t apply to public health, public safety, or health-care workers.

National Guard members will be stationed at the T.F. Green airport, Amtrak train stations and at bus stops. The citizen-soldiers will be following up with people at local residences. The maximum penalty for not complying: a fine of $500 and 90 days in prison.

^^Marshall law!

R540 House to house searches??

Roind of applause to the RI Governor! Finally someone with some balls!

*Round

R495, Dyson products get terrible ratings for efficiency vs price from what I hear.

Go to 18:45 and watch the doctor...

CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 3/27/20 | CNN NEWS Today March 27, 2020

LOVE the drama! Nantucket should do the same or it will become a plague island.

[quote] Any other healthcare workers feeling the same kind of vague discomfort?

Yes. And I have family in Italy, so I feel double-whammied. For various reasons, I never like special attention or talking about work outside of work, period. Moreso, now. At the end of the day, we're just people doing our jobs. This place makes for a nice escape though.

Thread 27, with a date stamped poll (as so many OPs stubbornly refuse to include one).

I know to always expect the worse from our POS president but it's still jaw-dropping to see someone holding that office writing shit like that. Not least against a sitting governor dealing with a pandemic. What a fucking cunt. If Michigan votes for him again, they may as well be Alabama. Hope GM pays Trump back in kind this fall.

Where's Michael Rappaport?

Quisling Birx.

R540 Reread that as if it's a 1950s sci-fi movie.

R318, here's to an Isadora Duncan ending for Dr. Scarf.

Do you understand what psychopathy is, R456? Don't express disbelief when you can't get blood from a stone.

And R551...

The Wrap: Trish Regan Out at Fox Business After Coronavirus Comments

*

Fox Business Network has parted ways with Trish Regan days after her comments that the coronavirus was "another attempt to impeach the president."

"Fox Business has parted ways with Trish Regan – we thank her for her contributions to the network over the years and wish her continued success in her future endeavors. We will continue our reduced live primetime schedule for the foreseeable future in an effort to allocate staff resources to continuous breaking news coverage on the coronavirus crisis," the network said in a statement.

Regan added in her own statement, "I have enjoyed my time at Fox and now intend to focus on my family during these troubled times. I am grateful to my incredible team at Fox Business and for the many opportunities the network has provided me. I'm looking forward to this next chapter in my career."

Can we just use this thread a little longer?

R552 It’s so bizarre how this is all playing out. National Guard troops doing door-to-door searches looking for quarantine dodgers is like something right out of Wuhan China. (On the other hand, that is how they finally brought the epidemic under control..)

No paywall:

For Dr. Deborah Birx, Urging Calm Has Come With Heavy Criticism

From the NY Times article linked by R551

[quote]Among Mr. Trump’s frustrations with Dr. Fauci has been his unwillingness to embrace the malaria drugs that Mr. Trump has celebrated, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Dr. Fauci has been much more vocal about their risks, and dismissed potential evidence of their success in treating the coronavirus as anecdotal.

Trump must have bought stock.

R559 He sucks the soul out of anyone who works for him for any amount of time, leaving behind an empty husk (like Pence or Pompeo.) Either that or they quit (or get fired.)

[quote]Gretchen “Half” Whitmer is way in over her ahead, she doesn’t have a clue. Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude!

Hello Kettle, this is Pot. You're black!

The #AntiChrist.

Someone had to say it.

The #AntiChrist.

Someone had to say it.

What does ‘Gretchen “Half” Whitmer’ even mean?

Why are there so many double posts?

R565, "Halfwit" dummy!

Hahaha.

I would think a scarf is very unprofessional and inappropriate to wear durning a viral outbreak. Especially for a doctor. It carries around all kinds of microscopic pathogens around and spreads them.

Crematoriums will be doing a bang up business by Easter

It's not just Rhode Island. The Texas governor has also issued an order for a 14-day self-quarantine for anyone arriving by airplane from New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and New Orleans. It will be enforced by state troopers who will make surprise visits to make sure the quarantine is being followed.

R568, her neck is really wrinkled. I think that’s what’s behind the reason for all the scarfs.

But I thought all elderly Texans were happy to rapture for the economy and kids. Surely visitors from the northeast would be welcomed with open arms.

Nah. Just our retarded Lt. Governor. He's one senior I would be willing to sacrifice for the economy.

R569 Crematoriums full of bodies on Easter! It’ll be a beautiful thing!

400 coronavirus deaths in the last 24 hours, 140 of them in NY.

People have gone to 27 already, sick of how slowly these 600 threads move on a phone.

Stop the Madness!

Neck meet scarf R568. There is a fucking reason she wears scarfs and today showed you why.

Bajour!

Hastening back to my lodgings, I bathed my hands with much vigour to three verses of To Be A Pilgrim, to rinse well away the memory as well as the damn’d pox. What woeful times are these!

Remdesivir is being used in compassionate use trials in Boston starting this week. We'll see what the results are from that.

R578, did she show her neck today? I missed it.

I tried to find a pic of her scarfless and stumbled upon a QVC "DEBBIE" Birx Appreciation Society.

Hold on R582. Don't know if this link will post correctly

Photo at the far right R582.

Oh Christ.

People got tired and moved onto 27 already.

Lol Brian Williams just played a clip of Dr. Debbie praising Trump and after it said “that was translated from the original North Korean.”

That is because of the fucking idiot that started 27 R586.

Who cares, the thread moves so slowly on mobile once it passes about 500. DL just isn't fit for purpose. I don't blame people for decamping to 27 already.

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Prince Charles has the PLAGUE

Boris Johnson has the plague

I've been to two different hospitals in the past two weeks, one with my partner and one with my mother. One in London and one in Manchester. Both had sectioned off areas for corona patients that were completely separate from the other departments - including A & E.

I've been to two different hospitals in the past two weeks, one with my partner and one with my mother. One in London and one in Manchester. Both had sectioned off areas for corona patients that were completely separate from the other departments - including A & E.

But it hurts so bad the way you bend the rules

Corona Triangle

Makes people disappear

Come a little closer, huh, ah, will ya, huh?

Close enough to look in my eyes, Corona

Keeping it a mystery gets to me

Running down the length of my thighs, Corona

yassssssssss

yasssssssss queeeeeeeeeen

Sylvia I like these threads, informative, funny. Support, outrage, some dark humor and compassion as well.

So much smarter. wittier than any place else.

You all have helped me so much. More than you know or I could thank you for