Coronavirus Freakout 25: The N95 Masque of the Red Death

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Thank you OP

You really hate the poll, don’t you?

[quote]There were buffoons, there were improvisatori, there were ballet-dancers, there were musicians, there was Beauty, there was wine

I'm sorry, but where were the Lesbians?

Vermont is on official "stay at home" order after 5 pm tomorrow. it upsets me that we have been so hard hit because compared to some places, we have been handling it really well as far as plans amd leadership.

Who the fuck does she think she’s impressing with those obscure quotes?

For many reasons, Sylvia reminds me of an old irritant from years ago, Misez Slocombe. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was one and the same.

Good thread title, though.

We're on thread 25, we don't need a poll.

Edgar Allen Poe is obscure?

My mom LOVES Vincent Price - so I’ve seen this movie many times. Never read the book though...I think I will tonight!

No escape from New York.

You got a copy just hanging around R10?

Sylvia flips between her handle and anonymous. That’s why she created this and anonymous announced it.

Head case.

Bravo, Sylvia Fowler!!

I bet the new york public library has a digital edition they (nypl) is all fair use right now.

This whole Trump rush to the Easter parade reminds me of something....

Our Easter miracle...

Mark my words: donald is attempting to setup New York and Governor Cuomo as scapegoats for the imminent Make America Great Depression.

Resign, already.

Sean Spicer "is" the Easter Bunny (and he's baaack).

TaDaaa.....

All Atlanta ICUs are full according to the city's mayor. Also, two nurses working Covid19, became infected and died this week.

Didn’t Donald’s Easter Day go back to work prediction land with a thud? Even Fauci said it’s just an estimate and they have to be flexible. My prediction is that the market will tank again when they realize things are about to get ten times worse. For anyone in New York, my heart goes out to you.

Did you hear his explanation for it? Nothing to do with science or medicine. Nope. Not at all. It’s just that he likes Easter (total BS) and he wants to see the churches filled.

He’s a fucking lunatic.

Not to mention that is complete rubbish. He somehow thinks it’s better to get people back to work than keep them alive. He said that he didn’t see why people couldn’t go to work and abide by social distancing. The reason of course is that people are contagious before they know if they’re infected. And it a very easily transmitted virus. So sending everyone back to work — cooks, waiters, bartenders, admin assistants, hotel workers — simply spreads the virus to more people and causes a new spike.

In the end he’ll wind up killing people and not help the economy.

I don’t think anyone is buying his act. Instinctively, humans know when their existence is being threatened. The red states will suffer the most because, for the most part, they don’t have access to wealth or great medical care.

Someone in another thread said Trump and his family are protected by a cure - what is that about?

Lindsey cussing again!

[quote]Enough already. Pass the damn bill!

That crazy Fundie hussy, Paula White, probably gave him the Easter idea when she was over at the WH riding his toadstool.

Those rural red state hospitals will collapse immediately under the weight of what’s coming.

Isn't China one of our biggest creditors? With this big stimulus package I don't think it is a good idea to piss them off.

Who’s buying his act? Apparently far too many of our fellow citizens — or at least 60 percent of them.

Who are these people and on what planet are they living? Have they watched his his little dog-and-pony shows?

Heaven help us.

Do you have a link to that information, r21?

Maybe they feel sorry for him because he has nothing else to do?

The only thing I can think of R30 is because he is on TV every day.

R30 fills me with its despair. Real despair.

It’s the goddamn media’s fault for live broadcasting his daily rallies, which by the way contain very little news.

Is Dr. Becky Scarf a Republican?

Where the hell are the ventilators?

Too funny R36

Probably too obscure for R7 though.

Fuck off. Uncalled for.

The Masque of the Red Death read by Basil Rathbone

Everything will be fine by Easter!

Anyone seen ElderLez around on the threads anywhere? Checking on the regulars. It's nice to hear from everyone, even if you don't have anything profound to say.

Basil Rathbone! Swoon!

Thank you, R40.

(And for the record, I have no clue who or what Misez Slocombe was.)

If you click on r30's link, the poll was conduct a few ago

Whoops, that should read "a few days ago"

USA had 11,000+ new cases today.

r31, you have to keep in mind that they poll fewer than 1000 people- the first was a little over 500, the second was a little over 800. If that was the second poll, we have nothing to worry about- it's just ass kissing the Tang Orangutan, who needs to look better in the media.

Reassuring, I hope.

r42, pretty sure I saw her at r38 :)

I guess if we’re sacrificing old people the surfing WWII vets, about 380,000 of them yet, will be kinda wondering what the fuck they fought for.

The Lesbians WERE the Red Death, Concerned Lesbian. They held sway over all.

R30 most people who answer polls are old people

I'm in my 30s and never been polled. I don't answer calls from random numbers either

old hetero xitan white people are mostly dumbasses

just like if you check the cable ratings the past week, Fox is getting the highest ratings. Higher than CNN and MSNBC. Why? most of the viewers are dumbass old hetero xtian whities

Stock futures are down - people can smell bullshit

R53 because there's no deal yet. Trump/repubs will blame it on Democrats

just as Trump & right wing media will start blaming NYC and Cuomo/De Blasio for the spread of coronavirus

ANYTHING to shift the real blame at Trump's fat ass

⏳ CORONA TIME 🥪 MARCH 24. 10:30 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 422,614

DEATHS: 18,892

CRITICAL: 13,095

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 54,808

DEATHS: 775

CRITICAL: 1,175

Anyone else worried about coming up with money for rent?

Lots of people on month to month leases in NY and DC.

^^ Data has not been updated since 2:07 GMT

Matthew Yglesias, sort of echoing Larry David, explains the value of wearing a face mask in this tweet

[quote] Whether or not it has any direct health benefit at all, wearing an improvised mask when you leave the house induces other people to stay further away from you by kind of implying that you’re sick.

[quote] I'm in my 30s and never been polled.

I'm 36 and have never been politically polled once in my life. Never.

R58, I don’t know why. People are much more inclined to wear masks to protect themselves than others. Besides, I tried that and people were still up in my space at the market. I guess my latex gloves indicated I was not sick and trying to protect myself.

Cheeto will get rid of Fauci. He likes Birx because she backs up his BS. Quisling.

So today Fatso promised all his MAGAts that they don't have to worry about going to church on Easter Sunday. He just announced that they can.

And then... as we get to that date... he will explode in fits of outrage at the DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS who tell his dear MAGAts that they cannot go to church. That's all this was today. A set up. He just promised something that he can't deliver anyway. But he's not planning on holding the bag, come Easter. He plans on throwing it in the faces of the Democrats.

Democrats and other thinking people going to have to prepare to fuck him up on this. Win the public relations war on this. It must be done.

Check your clock, r57

It has been updated.

2:07 GMT is 10:07 PM EST

hey I say let the right wingers go congregate in church if they want to lol

There’s something I hope happens to the red states, but it’s awful.

Yep - Updated! 👍

I'm wearing medical gloves while out, mainly beause it serves as a constant reminder to not touch anywhere around my face. It works. Maybe the mask does the same for others.

Four friends on Facebook are now sick, one friend of a friend died - all in NYC.

Dont wish bad things on the red states, please! There are people here who vote blue, even if theyre not the majority.

I was concerned.

Not anymore.

I’m the WuFlu Boogaloo from thread number two.

This article changes everything.

The last reaction the United States should have is surprise. The idiotic and greedy conservatives for being readily and repeatedly fleeced by an obvious charlatan, and the rest of us for allowing that charlatan to rise to power in the first place.

[quote]Whether or not it has any direct health benefit at all, wearing an improvised mask when you leave the house induces other people to stay further away from you by kind of implying that you’re sick.

[quote]People are much more inclined to wear masks to protect themselves than others.

Anytime I go out for a walk in my neighborhood here in Harlem, all I see everywhere I turn are people wearing masks. I don't have one but it almost makes me feel as if I should get one.

Thanks r49.

I can't believe Liz Cheney is actually tweeting sensibly today about how we won't have a functioning economy if the health crisis isn't handled first

Went out for the first time since almost 3 weeks ago, had to but the place I'd gone was empty and everyone in masks (was a dispensary, and was also in a mask). I was shocked at the number of people out, and the number of completely non essential businesses open. INSANITY! There was actually a pool and spa place open, tons of remodeling service trucks, just definitely not essential services were operating as usual.

I now know why China resorted to locking people in and fumigating everything! Because getting a Dunkin fix is totally necessary!

We're doomed. Although the ventilator experiment tobruk several patients off of ine machine has been successful!

Trump is so fucking stupid !!!! I thought George W. Bush was an idiot but he makes W looks like a genius. Bush would never put lives ahead of $.

I mean, c'mon! He wants a packed church for easter? what fucking world is he living in?

I want to see a whole lot of people in church on Easter - infecting everyone!

yes, they are also doing that in NYC, hooking up 2 patients to 1 ventilator.

To quote the great Kenneth Mars From Whats Up Doc on the title arguments.

Who cares? We are all going to die!

And is Donald going to be in church on Easter kissing black babies? Oh my sides

Thanks for saying that R69. All of my friends and immediate family in my red state are thinking people, Trump haters, who may have to go down with the ship of deplorables. Smart decent people suffering for the mistakes of the ignorant masses, as has happened throughout time.

New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C

Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-hit China, The Post has learned.

Dr. Andrew G. Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist affiliated with two Northwell Health facilities on Long Island, said his intensive-care patients with the coronavirus immediately receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C.

Identical amounts of the powerful antioxidant are then re-administered three or four times a day, he said.

Each dose is more than 16 times the National Institutes of Health’s daily recommended dietary allowance of vitamin C, which is just 90 milligrams for adult men and 75 milligrams for adult women.

The regimen is based on experimental treatments administered to people with the coronavirus in Shanghai, China, Weber said.

“The patients who received vitamin C did significantly better than those who did not get vitamin C,” he said.

“It helps a tremendous amount, but it is not highlighted because it’s not a sexy drug.”

A spokesman for Northwell — which operates 23 hospitals, including Lenox Hill Hospital on Manhattan’s Upper East Side — said that vitamin C was being “widely used” as a coronavirus treatment throughout the system, but noted that medication protocols varied from patient to patient.

“As the clinician decides,” spokesman Jason Molinet said.

About 700 patients are being treated for coronavirus across the hospital network, Molinet said, but it’s unclear how many are getting the vitamin C treatment.

The vitamin C is administered in addition to such medicines as the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotic azithromycin, various biologics and blood thinners, Weber said.

As of Tuesday, New York hospitals have federal permission to give patients a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to desperately ill patients on a “compassionate care” basis.

Weber, 34, said vitamin C levels in coronavirus patients drop dramatically when they suffer sepsis, an inflammatory response that occurs when their bodies overreact to the infection.

“It makes all the sense in the world to try and maintain this level of vitamin C,” he said.

A clinical trial into the effectiveness of intravenous vitamin C on coronavirus patients began Feb. 14 at Zhongnan Hospital in Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the pandemic.

The randomized, triple-blind study will involve an estimated 140 participants and is expected to be complete by Sept. 30, according to information posted on the US National Library of Medicine’s website.

Prominent Staten Island rabbi, Holocaust survivor dies from coronavirus

A prominent rabbi and Holocaust survivor from Staten Island, A. Romi Cohn, has died after contracting the coronavirus. He was 92.

“He was the epitome of a human being, deprived of a childhood as a teenager, who found himself wanted by Hitler because he was Jewish,” Mendy Mirocznik, president of the Council of Jewish Organizations of Staten Island, said in a statement.

“He never allowed the bitter experience of the Holocaust make him bitter. To the contrary he had positive energy in him.”

The death of Cohn, who also performed thousands of circumcisions in the Jewish community as a mohel, was first reported Tuesday by The Yeshiva World.

Cohn, who was born in Czechoslovakia, fought against the Nazis in World War II as a member of the Jewish partisans, the outlet reported.

He helped 56 families escape Nazi tyranny, according to Staten Island Rep. Max Rose, who invited Cohn to deliver the opening prayer on the House floor two months ago on the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.

Read Masque of the Red Death. It’s basically the last scene of the movie. I knew I had a collection of Poe’s stories (Yes, R12 - just hanging around) BUT, hasn’t Amazon changed the way we read? I was just going to download it. Instant gratification...

NYU offers early graduation to senior med students in bid to fight coronavirus

New York University is reportedly allowing senior medical students to graduate three months early so they can help overworked doctors fight the coronavirus pandemic.

The unprecedented offer was detailed in a Tuesday email to the class of 2020 as an option if the students “voluntarily agree” to begin working immediately as paid interns at NYU Langone Health’s Internal Medicine and Emergency Medicine departments.

“With the growing spread of COVID-19, our hospitals inundated with patients, and our colleagues on the front lines working extra-long hours, we are still short-staffed in emergency and internal medicine,” the reads the email circulated on social media. “Burnout of our doctors has become a growing concern.”

The email was first reported by emergency medicine physicians at Brief19.com.

The early graduation would have students in the field as soon as April, as opposed to July 1 under the typical graduation track, though details around the expedited schedule were still being finalized.

Students would be entering practice as doctors in New York state, the epicenter for the coronavirus outbreak in the United States, where 26,486 COVID-19 cases have been reported along with 271 deaths.

The desperate plea also advises that eligible students don’t even have to have planned to go into an emergency or internal medicine.

R82 That's from the Post, so of course it's false.

They should do a campaign commercial:

Donald Trump is coming to church on Easter!

The Deep South will have record high temperatures in the coming days.

I guess the heat don't affect the community spread?

How can orange turd say America is 'near the END' of the coronavirus battle? THIS CUNT IS TRYING TO KILL US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never wish ill health on others (even him) but it's such a pity he tested negative...

R88 it’s not clear whether heat makes it less contagious. It may, but more people might be outside in better weather, increasing the chance of spreading the virus.

IDK about Covid 19, but every time I start to have cold symptoms, I take 2 Emergen C Super Orange right away and the symptoms go away. I know that for a fact.

R86, they are treating patients with intravenous Vit C. which is absorbed better into the system, unlike the normal vit c we take...

the article didn't say vit c can prevent the virus, just that they are using it along with other meds to treat the patients.

This thing about “opening up the country by Easter” is another one of those things he gets in his head and can’t let go of. Like that hurricane that he got obsessed about on Twitter to the extent that he marked up a map with a sharpie to ‘prove’ he was RIGHT. He has this idea of churches full of grateful worshipers singing his praises on Easter that he’s glommed onto. The “miracle drug” chloroquinone is another one. His tiny lizard brain fixates on something and he can’t let it go.

Go for it, R92.

I've been taking vitamin C and D like a mutherfucker all winter and have not gotten sick, I will continue to do so, even if this doesn't prevent me from getting the corona monster.

I also had stomach/bowel pains from overindulging in foods while at home this week. I made a soup with tumeric and thyme, which are also miracle workers. I feel much better.

I wonder who’s on diaper duty. I od’d on Vitamin C once in university. Took more than the recommended dose because I had a cold, there was a party, and I wanted to go. I didn’t, but not because of the cold.

Jon Lovett had Ronan Farrow on his Youtube show on March 21st. They discussed shopping for emergency supplies for the lock down.

Jon: Pringles & Cheetos & Diet Coke

Ronan: Cottage Cheese & Sardines

The segment was called Love in the Time of Corona.

I always knew Ronan was creepy.

Donald is one sick motherfucker. He has access to interferon, plasma from recovered patients, Plaquenil, and all the other treatments that us poors will not be able to get our hands on (they won't prescribe us Plaquenil without a diagnosis and there is no test unless you must be hospitalized). He knows this, and as long as he and his family survive and profit, he is happy with the rest of us being like lambs for the slaughter.

Sen. Rand Paul in an op-ed on Tuesday urged folks to stop “finger-wagging” at him for not self quarantining while awaiting his coronavirus test results.

“I did not quarantine while awaiting a coronavirus test because I did not meet the criteria for quarantine,” the Kentucky Republican wrote in USA Today. “In fact, I did not meet the current criteria for even being tested, much less quarantined.”

“Instead of hounding people who got tested and then quarantined themselves, perhaps we need to broaden the testing and quit the finger-wagging.”

Paul, who confirmed he tested positive for COVID-19 on Sunday, was blasted by his colleagues for spending a week interacting with them and aides, as well as using Capitol Hill facilities while awaiting his results.

Republican Sens. Mitt Romney and Mike Lee, both of Utah, went into self-quarantine after being in proximity to Paul.

The 57-year-old lawmaker said he took the test because he and his wife “had traveled extensively during the weeks prior to COVID-19 social distancing practices” and out of concern for his damaged lung.

Paul had part of his lung removed in August as a result of injuries he suffered when he was attacked by his neighbor in November 2017 — putting him at higher risk for serious complications.

But he never exhibited symptoms, nor was he in contact “with anyone that health officials recommended quarantining or testing.”

“The current guidelines would not have called for me to get tested nor quarantined. It was my extra precaution, out of concern for my damaged lung, that led me to get tested,” he wrote.

Paul did attend a March 7 charity ball at Louisville’s Speed Art Museum, where two attendees later tested positive.

But, he said, “I was not considered to be at risk since I never interacted with the two individuals, even from a distance, and was not recommended for testing by health officials.”

He didn’t explain how he got the test, which have been scarce, but issued a message to his critics and called for broader testing.

“For those who want to criticize me for lack of quarantine, realize that if the rules on testing had been followed to a T, I would never have been tested and would still be walking around the halls of the Capitol,” Paul wrote.

“America is strong. We are a resilient people, but we’re stronger when we stand together.”

i'll never look at Ronan again without thinking about what Woody wrote...that his mommy slept in a bed with him up till age 11, sometimes naked (her).

R82 They’re grabbing onto anything they can think of because there is no treatment for this. That blogger David Lat is getting chloroquine and azithromycin. They’re desperate and trying anything.

[quote]Lat, the founder of the legal blog Above the Law and now a widely recognized legal recruiter who still writes columns for Above the Law, has been hospitalized at NYU Langone Hospital since March 16 due to a COVID-19 infection. For more than a week before being admitted to the hospital, Lat, 44, had experienced intermittent fevers, joint aches, chills, fatigue and coughing. Labored breathing set in by March 15, forcing him to go to his nearest emergency room to seek a coronavirus test.

[quote]According to his husband Zachary Shemtob, the doctors at NYU Langone on Saturday or late Friday prescribed Lat a Z-Pak (azithromycin) and the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine.

California child dies of coronavirus — believed to be first kid fatality in US

“A devastating reminder that COVID-19 infects people of all ages,” Barbara Ferrer, head of the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health, said in announcing three new deaths from the virus in the county, along with 128 more confirmed cases.

The department added of the fatalities in a statement, “One individual was a youth under the age of 18, and two other individuals were between 50-70 years old.

“The individual under the age of 18 resided in Lancaster.

“One of the individuals between 50-70 years old had underlying health conditions and resided in West Adams, the other is from a location that is still under investigation.

The CDC said in a report issued last week that fewer than 1 percent of confirmed coronavirus cases in the US have involved people age 19 or younger so far — and that no one in that group had died to date.

A 14-year-old boy in China was previously reported to have died from the virus, as was a victim in Spain between the age of 10 and 19.

LA now has reported 662 cases and 11 deaths from the virus.

Sounds like he's a goner, R102. Terrible.

By Easter Sunday, the US will have the most cases in the world and good odds to have the most deaths. Let's see who has the stomach to carry on as if all is back to normal.

I don’t believe the US will pass Italy with deaths, but Iran, France and Spain - Yes. China (reported cases) - maybe.

Trump will be sure to be there bright and early on Easter, to get a spray of cough droplets in his face,

I sadly don’t agree. It will be worse in the US because we did not prepare.

Trump knows we won't be able to go back after Easter. He's just saying that to pump up the stock market. I think we will be in the hellish part of this pandemic by Easter.

The US has had 782 deaths. It’s logical to think that could go up to 7,820 or higher, which will make us the world leader. MAGA!

Officially we will blow past China's 81K cases. We're already past 50K. In three weeks, we will add more than 30k. Far, far more. And it'll be about the time it will blow up in the Darwinian states that still refuse to close things down.

When will we get to 1000 deaths?

Next week.

[quote]I don’t believe the US will pass Italy with deaths

Boy, are you in for a treat. Idiot.

R104 He’s in the ICU sedated and maxed out on a ventilator. Sounds like he’s progressed to ARDS where his lungs are basically nuked.

We can expect cases to double every three to four days. For people who never finished primary math or who continue to live in a state of heedless delusion thinking that viruses magically stop spreading because we don't "believe" in them, that means:

110,300 cases by 3/28

220,600 cases by 4/1

441,200 cases by 4/5

882,400 cases by 4/9

And so on.

You can extrapolate the deaths from these numbers.

As DL likes to say: This will all end in tears!

Trump is so stupid, he thinks that that the plague will end like closing a door. It will not. When it “ends”, maybe by Easter 2021, it will taper off, slowly. We’re right in the middle of it now, in 2020.

You have to give credit to US doctors and hospitals who are keeping the death rate down in the country. They have far fewer deaths than other hard hit countries. They must be doing something right. I think the US will see less than 5k deaths when this thing is said and done. That would be remarkable.

DJT himself at R119

r116, those numbers are fake. It's just a part of the Democrat hoax! All those people just pretended to get sick.

Thank you R120. I was ready to post how ignorant R119 is.

NYC paramedic hospitalized with coronavirus sedated, breathing with ventilator as condition worsens, family says

FDNY EMS paramedic Christell Cadet ― who shared her coronavirus struggle with the world last week from her hospital bed ― is now unable to breathe comfortably on her own and has been hooked up to a ventilator, her distraught family told the Daily News Tuesday.

Cadet, 34, is sedated and has a breathing tube down her throat, but hasn’t given up the fight, her family and friends said.

On Friday, Cadet was well enough to speak to CNN from her Long Island hospital, where she was admitted last week.

But over the weekend, her condition took a dramatic turn for the worse, said her family and friends, who are unable to visit her due to the highly-contagious nature of the virus.

“She has definitely gotten worse,” said friend and fellow FDNY EMS paramedic Sherry Singleton, who last spoke with Cadet via text on Saturday. Cadet’s condition then showed signs of small signs of deterioration, Singleton said. Her friend was short of breath and getting oxygen round the clock.

By Monday, Cadet was unreachable by either phone or text — and her concerned family soon learned why.

Cadet was transferred to the ICU and sedated, her mother, Jessy Cadet, 61, told The News. The family learned the news early Tuesday.

“Since this morning it’s really, really difficult for me. I can’t think or focus. I try to remind myself I have to remain strong even though she can’t hear me right now,” the anxious mother said.

Cadet was hospitalized a week ago after she collapsed outside her Queens home upon returning from an EMS tour. Her family found her on her hands and knees and struggling to breathe. She later tested positive for coronavirus.

I agree with R119. Many cases but less than 5K deaths. I don’t know why that is making some people on here so upset. It is like you want many deaths.

Your ignorance is really appalling R124.

Nevermore. Nevermore.

Illuminating!

What are we hoping for Rand Paul?

Not much R128.

R124 Way too soon to say. This outbreak hasn't even begun to peak yet. Wait until there are no ICU beds left and the hospital staff get infected because of the lack of protective gear.

Mayor Bill de Blasio @NYCMayor · 3h We heard today that the Defense Protection Act was activated for the first time. We MUST get production increased immediately. I’m pleased the DPA is finally being used, now we have to use it a LOT more.

Mayor Bill de Blasio @NYCMayor · 3h We now have 15,597 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New York City. We are this country’s epicenter, and we need federal help consistent with the challenges we’re facing.

[quote] R124: I agree with [R119]. Many cases but less than 5K deaths. I don’t know why that is making some people on here so upset. It is like you want many deaths.

The medical systems are expected to exceed capacity in a couple weeks, isn’t that what Gov. Coumo said today? Whenever that happens, we should expect death rates to soar.

I don’t think anyone is unhappy with low death rates, but I can imagine people being unhappy that others think that today’s lower death rates will continue after the medical system gets overwhelmed.

It takes 3 weeks to die on average

I sure hope the paramedic at R123 pulls through.

The Doctor My Eyes singer revealed to Rolling Stone: “As soon as I had a small cough and a temperature, I tested [for coronavirus].

“My symptoms are really pretty mild, so I don’t require any kind of medication and certainly not hospitalization or anything like that,” he added.

While the legendary musician could not pinpoint where he contracted the disease, he told the magazine he suspects it was during his March 12 trip to New York for the Love Rocks NYC benefit concert.

The star-filled event also featured Cyndi Lauper, Dave Matthews, Warren Haynes, Susan Tedeschi and Derek Trucks.

He also revealed that he is not the only one from the celebrity charity concert who been diagnosed: "Now it turns out that several people who were at that show have tested positive.

"I’m going to try and get in touch with everybody and keep talking with them."

Jackson admitted he regrets the 3,000 mile trip: "Now I wish I hadn’t gone to New York and done this benefit.

"I think to myself, how much simpler would it have been had I just called in and said, 'No, I’m not going to travel on a cross-country flight and spend two days in New York with all these people that are singing all over the country.'"

The Somebody's Baby crooner has been quarantined at home for 10 days and admitted with a laugh: "It’s not that long, but it feels like forever."

Despite the yearning to go out, Jackson urged his fans to stay at home: “So many people that have it aren’t going to be tested. They don’t have symptoms, but they might have it and might be able to pass it on.

“That’s what younger readers need to understand: they need to take part in the global response to stop the spread.

“That means not going anywhere, not getting into contact with anybody, not seeing anybody."

Loss of smell and taste seems to be one of the signs you have coronavirus.

So she we get no other medical care during this time? Seems like a hospital or doctors office would be the last place in the world one would want to be if sick or vulnerable. How the fuck will our doctors and nurses stay safe without gear? Even the full PPE here seems weak compared to other countries. At first it was oh the elderly only, mild for most, mild symptoms, mild,mild MILD!!!!!!

I have watched along with horror as leaders and organizations flail around and lie! Masks won’t help! Gloves won’t help! Not airborne!

Only DL has been on it. Everyone so stupid and so SLOW in comparison. DL should be running this country!

I do wonder if this was and accidental bioweapon leak after all?

It’s much more like SARS but danger was minimized for many months - why???

Lao Che can now rescue us all with the antidote for the poison we just drank ?

China the good guy now, China donate the PPE..

Chen Quishi tried to show the truth. This keeps me up with worry.

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 25. 1:30 AM EST

🥞 NATIONAL WAFFLE DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 422,959

DEATHS: 18,907

CRITICAL: 13,095

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 54,881

DEATHS: 782

CRITICAL: 1,175

The heat is not stopping the spread in Thailand

Guardian -Thailand has recorded 107 new coronavirus cases, bringing total to 934, a health official said on Wednesday.

Has anyone done a virtual visit with their doctor?

What's it like?

No one wishes for a high number of deaths. The great danger of Trump is that he is distorting reality. The virus is spreading at an alarming rate, the US has become the global epicenter, but he is out there promoting a stupid fantasy of Easter miracle. It’s shameful that the media and administration enables a liar who is a menace to public health.

Looks like Palm Springs has banned vacation rentals. We've been here since January 15 and was going to stay at least thru April. I think they are closing a pools and tennis courts too, so we might as well leave.

Indeed, R142, tRump’s dangerous rhetoric is going to get people killed. Listen to the head of a Louisiana hospital system who was on Rachel tonight. Apparently Mardi Gras revelers are responsible for spreading COVID in New Orleans and taking it back to wherever they were visiting from. Their hospitals are about to be overwhelmed. Same problems as in New York: running low on PPE, and a looming shortage of beds, ventilators, and NURSES!!!

No one is going to be packed into churches on Easter.

First Lady

Eight year old child in California has died from The Corona.

Eight year old child in California has died from The Corona.

In all seriousness, Cuomo should be running this country.

How the fuck do we still have no PPE?

Is it that m hard to make gloves, gowns and make!

FFS, some hospitals are accepting home made masks

Why TF is Turtle and GOP still sucking this psycho’s dick?

R147- link??

The Cuomo-should-be-president troll is the “Biden is senile troll”.

Trump's poll numbers have increased, and right now they're pretty much at the highest point of his presidency. Events like these tend to have a "rally around the leader* effect. But the number is deaths is creeping upwards. Without a drastic change, we will start seeing numbers approaching 1,000 a day within the next two weeks. It's pretty much locked in at this point. The Daily yesterday had a brutal episode that I don't recommend you listen to if you want to hold onto any hope. Even though some people are staying home, we're not doing enough, it can no longer be contained, and we're going to see Wuhans all over the country.

Trump has no hope at all in November. He botched this from the start and now we're all going to pay the price. We probably deserve it for electing an idiot. What other crisis could be so perfectly engineered to expose every single one of his flaws? Mother nature is a cold bitch.

R150, link is at R103.

R151 I'm watching ABC World News Now. It was mentioned at beginning of the show.

They also mentioned an 18 year old who may also have been a Corona victim

The LA Times is reporting:

[quote] A teenager who lived in Lancaster may be the first child to have died from the coronavirus, but confirming that will require additional testing, authorities said.

[quote] Los Angeles County health officials announced Tuesday what they believed to be the first COVID-19 death in the U.S. of someone younger than 18.

[quote] The minor who died was a teenager who lived in Lancaster and did not have any preexisting conditions, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said in a news briefing Tuesday evening.

It really is shocking how different the reactions to coronavirus are. Some people are asymptomatic aka just carriers. Others have mild symptoms but no lung issues. Some have breathing issues that require hospitalization but are stable and can return home. Some have severe lung damage. Others die before making it to the hospital

and this range of reactions happens to people of all ages and backgrounds. It's crazy how there's no pattern to this at all

r156, I think there is a pattern, we just don't yet understand it.

Not surprising given the looming disaster in the US

CNN-South Korea will require passengers arriving from the United States to undergo a 14-day quarantine starting from Friday. Those arriving who have residence in South Korea will be allowed to stay at home, while those without will be required to stay in a government facility, the Central Disaster Relief Headquarters’ Disease Prevention team leader Yoon Tae-ho said on Wednesday. In addition to the quarantine, short-term stay foreigners will be tested for the virus during entry procedures and will be allowed into the country if their test comes back negative.

I hope none of you still continues to watch Dr. Oz' daily chat show

he is now taking part in the Fox "News" propaganda about coronavirus. He's been on Lou Dobbs' show this week as well as the Fox Trump town hall yesterday

pushing the theory that the malaria drug can treat coronavirus despite not being tested yet

I can't believe that like Dr. Drew, hollywood hasn't thrown him out yet. Oz doesn't seem to openly espouse right wing views but he sure does take part in right wing propaganda. Remember in 2016 he was 1 of the ones questioning Hillary's health yet giving Trump a stamp of approval

Remember how the world was saved from the Martian invaders at the end of [italic] War of the Worlds? [/italic] It turned out that the Martians succumbed to novel Earth germs that they had no immunity to. That is the problem with this novel Corona Virus—it’s new to everyone so no one has immunity. It will continue its rampage until we can get vaccinated for it. So prepare for this to go on about another year or so.

In countries where temps are constantly above 27c even at night, it spreads more slowly. The Maldives has this climate and they had their first case 3 weeks ago. Still only 13 cases now, and they all live in crowded and cramped conditions.

Not sure if this was already mentioned but 240 additional deaths were reported in France last night. Biggest daily total so far.

Guardian- The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in France, as reported from the daily update last evening, is 22,300, a rise of 2,444 in a day, 10,176 people are in hospital with the virus, 2,516 of them in intensive care (34% of ICU cases are aged under 60). There have been 1,100 deaths in hospitals, 85% of which are of people over 70 years. The number of deaths rose sharply by 240 in 24 hours. This figure does not include those who have died in retirement homes or outside hospitals.

[QUOTE] I agree with [R119]. Many cases but less than 5K deaths. I don’t know why that is making some people on here so upset. It is like you want many deaths.

There are a few catastrophe queens on here who are relishing every minute of this crisis. They pray for the cases to go up and are delighted by every new death. They scream furiously at anyone who tries to inject reason into the discussion and accuse them of being Trump voters.

These hysterics also spread false info. Cases in Italy Spain etc haven't doubled every few days. China would have had millions had that been the case. It won't happen in the US either.

R161. Not sure how much faith we can put in this information. Maybe the low cases in the Maldives could also be linked to no testing. In any case, the virus is quickly spreading now in Thailand and India has just imposed a 21 day lockdown where people are forbidden to step one foot outside their door which demonstrates the high concern there. Still some much to learn about this virus. Too early to draw any meaningful conclusions.

R164, it's not spreading very quickly in Thailand.

So much schadenfreude on the corona threads.

It's coming from a dozen retired shut ins who are taking a real delight in the rest of the world being locked down like them. Anyone ecstatically screaming 'MILLIONS WILL DIE' falls into this category.

R165. Are you not following the current news?

A big spike in infections and deaths in Belgium since yesterday. 668 new cases and 56 deaths since yesterday

R166 Don't forget MEDICAL HOLOCAUST. They're loving the chance to finally feel listened to, it just keeps getting more absurd. Imagine the riots that would ensue if they started using that language in the media.

Prince Charles has it!

Guardian-Prince Charles has tested positive for coronavirus and is displaying mild symptoms “but otherwise remains in good health”, Clarence House has said

Will you all stop whining and projecting imagined opinions about the people who are, in your opinion, overdramatizing the virus? Like on one hand you want to share your "reasoned, logical opinions" but on the other hand you've decided that those who disagree strongly with you are 1) shut-ins, 2) gleeful at the spread, 3) reveling in schadenfreude, among other things, based on absolutely nothing.

You may think you're making a case, but it's more against yourselves. Why would anyone want to listen to your "reasoned, logical opinions" when you are just inventing things because you got your feelings hurt?

So does Hydroxychloroquine actually work?

BIG jump in Spain.

Guardian-Death toll in Spain surpasses China Spain now has the worlds second-highest tally of coronavirus deaths, after 738 more were reported Wednesday, the country’s deadliest toll in one day, the Associated Press reports. With 3,434 coronavirus patients dead, Spain surpassed China’s death toll of 3,285. Italy still has the most deaths of any nation in the world with 6,820. Infections in Spain also rose 20% from a day earlier to 47,610.

R173 for some people it seems to when combined with azithromycin, but there has been only anecdotal evidence thus far. Also that combination has its own risk of sudden death due to side effects.

I asked a nurse I know in New York how he was dealing and he said that someone's dying of it in his hospital every hour, and that it was basically the apocalypse in New York.

TRump needs to ramp up production of protective equipment, Ventilators, and hospital facilities NOW.

Health care workers across the country are being taken off the playing field due to lack of protection. And NY, for example, needs twice as many beds as they’ve got, plus thousands more ventilators.

TRump could order ramped up production. Instead, he’s equivocating. By the time Red State governors are begging for help, infection will be so widespread that workers in manufacturing states will either be quarantined or afraid to go to assembly lines.

R176 it’s almost as if trump wants calamity esp in nyc.

Prince Charles has the virus! Let's hope it takes out him and ugly bald William.

I was surprised to learn last night on Rachel Maddow that Nassau County has the the second highest per capita infection rate in the country. I know there are a lot of us Nassau County residents on Datalounge.

R91 I take 2K of Vitamin C and Zinc at the onset of a cold...it is gone in 3 days. I've been taking Zinc twice a day and before I venture out to get groceries or CVS.

[QUOTE] I've been taking Zinc twice a day and before I venture out to get groceries or CVS.

You sound like the kind of person who would have left the house holding a cup of burning herbs to protect yourself from bubonic plague.

Most of you folks sound like the screaming MARY! When Dianna died. Get over yourselves. Grasping to any drama left.

The catastrophe queens came to this topic since Megan Markle went down in flames. I put a couple on ignore and it's much saner.

The catastrophe queens came to this topic since Megan Markle went down in flames. I put a couple on ignore and it's much saner.

Prince Charles has it. Camilla doesn’t.

R180, that’s probably too much zinc. Unlike vitamin C, which you can just piss out if it’s too much, excess zinc can cause harm. You have to be very careful with it.

One thing I read was that seriously ill patients were deficient in vitamin D. Going out in the sun might help, or take the vitamin. But stay away from people.

“Can zinc be harmful?

“Yes, if you get too much. Signs of too much zinc include nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, stomach cramps, diarrhea, and headaches. When people take too much zinc for a long time, they sometimes have problems such as low copper levels, lower immunity, and low levels of HDL cholesterol (the “good” cholesterol).”

To the idiot upthread who posted we’re on 25 we don’t need a poll, you may have heard the phrase a snapshot in time. Get YouTube, you may be too stupid to know how to properly wash your hands.

[quote] No one is going to be packed into churches on Easter.

Except for the funeral services. All day, on the hour and half-hour.

My guess is Deplorables will use the Easter church services as a demonstration of their fealty to Trump. Right wing churches may be full. That will spread the virus among the most loyal Trumpers. A week or two later, people will know they’ve been passing it to their families.

Everyone else will stay away, other than some old people who won’t let anything stop them from going to church. It’s common for certain churches to broadcast Easter services on television, so people can watch it there. Hopefully a lot of people will watch that instead.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pope issues some sort of order not to attend services.

I suppose we will start to get a clearer picture of the situation in Japan now that the Olympics are cancelled

CNN-Tokyo governor Yuriko Koike has urged residents in the city to avoid making "non-essential outings" this weekend as the city reported an increase in its number of novel coronavirus cases.

Speaking at a news conference on Wednesday, Koike said it is now a "critical moment" to stop the infection rate from climbing. Tokyo residents are advised to work from home as much as possible, avoid social contacts and crowded places and refrain from going out at night to reduce the risk.

Event organizers should also refrain from holding large events, she said.

As of Wednesday evening local time, Tokyo reported 41 new cases of novel coronavirus, according to Koike.

The Dow demands a blood sacrifice!

Oh shut up R187. When you take the poll you can't take it again so it is useless. Besides people are telling you what they are feeling in their comments. Get a fucking life. Unlike you I have know all my life how to wash my hands.

It’s known.

Guardian-The new coronavirus is unlikely to disappear in summer, the European Union agency for disease control said on Wednesday, in a stark warning that the epidemic could continue when temperatures rise unless measures to hamper it are applied. The notice leaves little room for hopes that SARS-CoV-2, the name of the new virus, could behave as the other four coronaviruses which are endemic in human populations and are usually not detected in summer months.

The Corona counters are back on CNN and MSNBC after disappearing for a while yesterday.

There are quite a few state idiots here still think this is nothing. They think they're informed and contemporary in their thinking, but the red idiocy still runs deep. The rubes.

R190, I was thinking the same. Maybe they'll actually conduct testing widely. They can buy kits from South Korea, like Trump requested yesterday.

Western countries can't handle this. Such arrogance previously. especially from the Scandinavians, English (cf. Scottish etc.), and Germans.

R192, see, dear, and slowly so you can calm down [italic] and[/italic] comprehend - sorry, that’s a word that means understand, for you - you take a poll each [italic] new[/italic] thread to see how the mood changes, events developing and changes occurring. Like how they kept polling all the way through the Democratic nomination process to see how voters felt as candidates dropped out or did better. And - and wow - on DL you get a new vote with each thread so that will even let you show how your own feelings have changed! So you do get more than one vote. I imagine you have a lot of feelings that change, frustrated as you must be day to day.

I've already decided what I'm going to do with my $1200. I'm going to call my three favorite local restaurants and buy $100 gift cards to give as birthday presents later in the year. Then I'm going order that $600 sofa I've been thinking about. Then I will buy a plane ticket to Chicago.

Get a fucking life R199.

Idiots like r169 forget that a big demographic here is older gay men, a group that has lived through a medical Holocaust of their own.

If you really think it isn't going to be that bad, go listen to The Daily from the NYT from yesterday. We are going to eclipse Italy in deaths, and it won't be that far off. All because this stupid fucking administration failed to act when it should have, back in January.

Idiots like r169 forget that a big demographic here is older gay men, a group that has lived through a medical Holocaust of their own.

If you really think it isn't going to be that bad, go listen to The Daily from the NYT from yesterday. We are going to eclipse Italy in deaths, and it won't be that far off. All because this stupid fucking administration failed to act when it should have, back in January.

LOL R200... I thought that was really decent until the plane ticket....

Italian nurse with coronavirus kills herself over fear of infecting others

A 34-year-old Italian nurse working on the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic took her own life after testing positive for the illness and was terrified that she had infected others, according to a report.

Daniela Trezzi had been suffering “heavy stress” amid fears she was spreading the deadly bug while treating patients at the San Gerardo Hospital in Monza in the hard-hit region of Lombardy, the Daily Mail reported.

She was working in the intensive care unit while under quarantine after being diagnosed with COVID-19, according to the UK news site.

The National Federation of Nurses of Italy expressed its “pain and dismay” over Trezzi’s death, which came as the country’s mounting death toll surged with 743 additional fatalities Tuesday.

“Each of us has chosen this profession for good and, unfortunately, also for bad: we are nurses,” the federation said.

“The condition and stress to which our professionals are subjected is under the eyes of all,” it said, adding that “a similar episode had happened a week ago in Venice, with the same underlying reasons.”

Hospital general manager Mario Alparone said Trezzi had been at home sick since March 10 and that “she was not under surveillance.”

The nurse’s death is under investigation.

About 5,760 health care workers have been infected by the virus, according to figures released Tuesday by an Italian research institute.

Those workers account for about 8 percent of the country’s total cases, which rose to 69,176 on Tuesday.

Medical consultant on pandemic movie ‘Contagion’ has coronavirus

Ian Lipkin, the consultant who also leads Columbia University’s Center for Infection and Immunity, revealed his diagnosis Tuesday along with a grim warning while appearing on Fox Business from his home.

“If it can hit me, it can hit anybody,” Lipkin said, adding that the virus is “miserable.”

Lipkin said he had an idea of where he contracted the virus but wasn’t exactly sure.

“But it doesn’t matter. This virus can be found all over the United States,” he added. “You can get it anywhere.”

The US is home to more than 51,000 confirmed coronavirus cases, with the country trailing just China and Italy for the most COVID-19 patients. More than 670 have died from the virus in the states.

Lipkin said spoke hopefully of new tests being conducted at Columbia University, Johns Hopkins and other research facilities involving blood plasma drawn from patients who recovered from the coronavirus.

Ideally, the tests will help reveal new methods of treatment that “can prevent infection or progression of infection” but that it’s not easy to rapidly scale up the procedure for the entire country.

“But we will be able to use lessons learned to developed other sort of pharmacological treatments based on what we’ve found,” he said.

“We really don’t know when we’re going to get this under control,” Lipkin said. “It’s extraordinarily important that we harmonize whatever restrictions we have across the country because we have porous borders between states, between cities.”

“And unless we’re consistent, we’re not going to get ahead of this thing,” he added.

The Soros set is angry that we're not letting migrants at the southern border in ASAP. Because they're desperate. And we're not.

CNN just said in Washington state the rate of infection continues to rise but the rate of the rise is now half of what it was. Maybe a turn? Hope so, for them. And us.

CNN just said in Washington state the rate of infection continues to rise but the rate of the rise is now half of what it was. Maybe a turn? Hope so, for them. And us.

If Prince Charles can get it, so can Soros.

A source of optimism in dark times.

Karl-Antony Towns’ mother has been diagnosed with the coronavirus and is in a coma, the NBA star revealed in an emotional Instagram video late Tuesday.

The 24-year-old Minnesota Timberwolves center, whose mom is connected to a ventilator, said he was told early last week that she was not feeling well and that her condition began “deteriorating” over the next few days, when she spiked a fever as high as 103 degrees. He added that she had been improving for a bit at one point, but that things went “sideways” again.

Towns said he told this story to warn others how serious the coronavirus is and to take seriously the practice of social distancing. “We can beat this, but this is serious and we need to take every precaution,” Towns wrote in the post. “Sharing my story in the hopes that everyone stays at home! We need more equipment and we need to help those medical personnel on the front lines.

“Thank you to the medical staff who are helping my mom. You are all the true heroes! Praying for all of us at this difficult time.”

I love that CNN and MSNBC cut away from his stupid press conference on Monday and it pissed off Trump and the WH. MCNBC said it did not provide any useful information and CNN said it's their network and they'll do whatever they want. Haha. They should do this all the time. Trump bitches about their low ratings and fake news all the time, but obviously hates not having a platform for his lies even more.

AMLO (President Obrador of Mexico) has a magical amulet that he says will protect him.

Opinion

Mexico, the Coronavirus and the Hugging President

Mr. López Obrador deserves to be strongly criticized, but Mexicans will have to stand together to get through coronavirus.

Ioan Grillo

By Ioan Grillo

Contributing Opinion Writer

March 23, 2020

MEXICO CITY — On March 4, a few days after the first coronavirus case was discovered here, President Andrés Manuel López Obrador was asked about the infection at his daily news conference. “With the coronavirus, this idea that you can’t hug,” the president said. “You have to hug. Nothing happens.” He crossed his arms and hugged himself, a signature gesture that he uses to show him hugging the Mexican people.

As the virus outbreak was declared a pandemic, and nations went into lockdown and shut down flights and borders, critics used the remark as an exhibit of how the silver-haired, 66-year-old president is mishandling the crisis. Videos of it on social media have been shared hundreds of thousands of times. But Mr. López Obrador was unrepentant, and in a seeming retort on March 14, he posted a video of himself hugging and kissing supporters at a large rally in the impoverished state of Guerrero.

Mexico is behind Europe and the United States in its rate of coronavirus infection, but the number of cases is rising steadily. The government has not clamped down on travel or work, citing the enormous economic challenges as the peso tanks and the White House restricts crossings on the southern border. Mr. López Obrador continues to make frivolous comments on the virus. At a news conference, he took out amulets that he says protect him, and he continues to attend rallies.

On the flip side, Mexico has been tracing imported cases and putting those people in quarantine, has been preparing hospitals and stepped up actions in recent days, closing schools and encouraging people to stay at home. On March 20, the government also began a social-distancing campaign, telling people not to greet with hugs and kisses, and supported it with ads featuring a new superhero, Susana Distancia, her name a play on “sana distancia,” or “healthy distance.”

Many parents have taken their children out of school early, some businesses have pressed to get their employees working from home, and some local governments have taken stricter measures. Mayor Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico City has been among the most stringent, shutting cinemas, theaters, museums, gyms and bars.

Hugging is the perfect symbol for Mr. López Obrador’s tropical populism. It portrays him as a warm man of the pueblo in contrast with the cold technocrats of what he calls “the mafia of power.” His slogan for trying to end the country’s drug war is “abrazos, no balazos,” or “hugs, not bullets.”

Giving a hug is also one of the worst things you can do during a pandemic of this nature. It is the opposite of social distancing, a means of unknowingly spreading the infection. It is certainly not what a president should be encouraging here, or anywhere infections are rising.

The broader idea of embracing, of social solidarity, is needed to get through this immense challenge. We have to stand together, metaphorically if not physically, to minimize the infections and economic collapse that could hurt us all. As a newspaper editor from Italy writes, countries need to heed the lessons learned there of abandoning elements of the individualism we are used to and working side by side in the face of the horror.

While the spread of the coronavirus may just be beginning in Mexico, the potential for devastation is huge. There are many great doctors here, but the health system is severely challenged. A lockdown would be especially difficult because for many people, if they don’t work, they cannot eat. Drugs cartels run riot in parts of the country, directly challenging the security forces. If the coronavirus were to spread to rampant levels, the social impacts would be devastating.

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But Mexico also has assets in the fight against the coronavirus. Family networks are strong, making it easier to close schools. During recent natural disasters, I have witnessed great social solidarity. After the earthquake in Mexico City in 2017, neighbors came together to clear rubble, and give food and supplies to the homeless. When the city of Villahermosa was swept underwater in 2007, people amassed to rescue others. If cases of coronavirus infection do shoot up, as is likely, this solidarity could translate to help the distribution of food and support for affected families.

But a surge in infections would also require extraordinary actions from the government. Nations battling the crisis have taken measures such as not requiring rent and utility payments, and using soldiers to police curfews. Mexico needs to consider food distribution and how to offset the loss of income in the coming months, and face up to the reality of lockdowns.

It is unfortunate that the coronavirus has struck during an era of populism. Across the Americas, Presidents López Obrador, Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil have minimized the danger of the virus and blamed enemies for it. However, no government has looked great amid the crisis, and countries without populist presidents, such as France and Germany, have also seen infections shoot up. These are the leaders with whom we have to work in confronting this virus whether we like it or not.

Mr. López Obrador claims his presidency is a historic time in Mexico, what he calls “The Fourth Transformation,” following independence from Spain, the Liberal Reform and the revolution. Indeed, he does seem to be governing in a historic moment, but it is one of immense challenge to public health and the society, perhaps the biggest in a century.

The president clearly does have strengths of leadership that led him to the presidency. He now needs to use that leadership to embrace the crisis. He repeats that he loves his people and wants to hug them, but that hug needs to be one of doing everything to minimize the damage of the pandemic. He faces a test bigger than challenges confronted by recent Mexican presidents, and failure could have much more painful consequences for everyone here.

Ioan Grillo (@ioangrillo), a contributing Opinion writer, is the author of “El Narco: Inside Mexico’s Criminal Insurgency” and, most recently, “Gangster Warlords: Drug Dollars, Killing Fields and the New Politics of Latin America.”

⏳ CORONA TIME 🥞 MARCH 25. 10:15 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 439,163

DEATHS: 19,744

CRITICAL: 13,425

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 55,081

DEATHS: 785

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED @ 1,175

The “open by Easter” Line is benefitting Trump. Even when we don’t re-open then, people think “he’s trying to help us - he understands our pain”. His base has no sympathy for others - so until THEY get it, they will think it’s an over reaction. They only pain they feel is economic and real. Other people dying in NYC is irrelevant to them. They don’t think communally - the Republican mantra is “everyone take care of themselves”. Won’t matter until they start getting it - which may be minimized thanks to the actions of NY and CA.

It's only a matter of time - 2-3 weeks - until the red states are hit hard AF. Their orange god can't save them.

Trump is keeping New York from getting the number of respirators it needs because New York didn't support him in 2016 and it won't support him in 2020. Not a single electoral vote from New York, so fuck 'em all. The higher the body count in New York, the happier he will be. New York never liked him. And now he's going to pay back spectacularly.

The red states will be flooded with respirators. Mark my words. The man is entirely narcissistic and everything he does is transactional.

Forget 'What have you done for me lately?' With Trump it is, "What have you done for me TODAY?"

It seems right now we are in a temporary fix situation. Realistically how long can we keep things closed down?

Respirators won't save all the red state people who are fat, smoke, etc.

Doomed.

Daddy Cuomo will fix it!

Let the red states follow Cheeto's Easter deadline. See what happens.

Did anyone see that report yesterday about the elections? They were talking about how difficult it would be to convert to mail in ballot only and the whole infrastructure of voting.

Can NY AG file manslaughter charges against Trump?

Ok, I know the answer but they should do anyway.

most of the people in the red states are fat fucks...they will die if they get it.

Paper ballots are too hard for the election!

Americans are truly babies. If anything looks to be difficult, everyone immediately starts giving up.

I was on CNN's website, which we can't link here, and one of the stories stated people won't receive their check until at least May.

Walgreens is hiring...

So is instacart.

Heard that on the news...

This bill seems like a huge gip to the average person.

Nancy did what she could but the rethugs run 2.5 branches of this government.

r224 - There was a woman, some voting expert, or lobbyist on MSNBC last night discussing the voting infrastructure. I wasn't paying too much attention to be honest, but it looks like GOP is not funding the required amount. It sounded pretty bad actually. The interview was on Chris Hayes show and it was aired in the last 10 minutes of the show just before Rachel Maddow. I tried looking for it on the internet but couldn't find it. He was interviewing a woman from MIchigan, some expert on the subject Dark hair, long hair and glasses, pink top, I think.

Argentina reports 86 new cases, two deaths in 24 hours Officials confirmed on Tuesday night that 86 new cases of the novel Covid-19 coronavirus had been diagnosed in Argentina over the last 24 hours – the highest daily figure of the pandemic to date, reports the Buenos Aires Times.

R229, I was thinking about working for Instacart, but I don't want to increase my risk of infection by going to the supermarket several times and delivering food to people who might be infected.

Man reportedly dies from coronavirus after relatives ignored pandemic

A diabetic father in Illinois died from coronavirus after relatives downplayed his risk of contracting the deadly bug, according to a report.

Luis Juarez, 54, of Romeoville, died March 18, just three days after his relatives were told the father of three had been infected with the novel coronavirus, his son told the Chicago Tribune.

“I feel a sense of guilt because we often try to undermine what is happening by ignoring it and thinking that it won’t happen to us,” Juarez’s 29-year-old son who asked not to be identified told the newspaper. “But it did. I still can’t believe it.”

Juarez, a diabetic who previously had pneumonia, died from respiratory failure caused by COVID-19, according to his death certificate.

His health began to deteriorate earlier this month, when he appeared to have a common cold, relatives said.

But his family didn’t believe he had been infected with COVID-19 and didn’t heed public health warnings despite the rapid spread of the virus, his son said.

“Most times, we tend to stay quiet and go along with the jokes and the memes,” Juarez’s son said. “That ignorance and silence is killing many – my dad was one of them.”

Juarez wasn’t admitted to a hospital until March 12. Doctors told him at the time he had pneumonia again and needed urgent care. Three days later, relatives called the hospital and learned he was in critical condition, his son said.

“Up until then, we didn’t know that they considered that he had the virus,” Juarez’s son told the Tribune. “We didn’t know he had been tested.”

Juarez’s three sons were later allowed to visit their father on March 18 as he was connected to ventilators. He died hours later, according to the report.

“It was very sudden,” Juarez’s 29-year-old son said while urging others not to minimize the risk of contracting the illness.

“Realize this is real and very serious,” he said.

Juarez returned from a trip to his native Mexico on Feb. 28 with no symptoms. The next day, he attended a relative’s birthday with nearly 200 family members and friends, his son said.

The family now wants to ensure he is buried in Mexico

“Like any immigrant, that was his dream,” Juarez’s son said.

But travel bans and other emergency measures due to the global pandemic may complicate those plans, the Tribune reports.

Fuck this deploracunt who tweeted this:

[quote]President Trump always looks out for the American worker. Thank god he didn’t let those deep state democrats sneak the rubbish into this stimulus package that they were trying 2 do. That’s why it was held up and their masks were ripped off. They’re always trying 2 screw Americans

I can't believe how fucking brainwashed these idiots are.

People in NYC need some sort of state/local supplement to the pitiable check from the feds.

A 21-year-old woman has reportedly died of coronavirus in the UK – and is believed to be the youngest person in the country with “no underlying health conditions” to succumb to the bug.

The family of Buckinghamshire resident Chloe Middleton posted the grim news Tuesday on Facebook, according to local media.

“To all the people out there that thinks it’s just a virus please think again speaking from a personal experience this so called virus has taken the life of my 21 year old daughter,” Middleton’s mom, Diane Middleton, wrote.

Chloe’s aunt, Emily Mistry, also posted about the young girl’s COVID-19-related death on Facebook and noted that her “beautiful” and “kindhearted” niece had “no underlying health issues,” Metro UK reported.

“My loved ones are going through the most unimaginable pain, we are shattered beyond belief,” Mistry wrote.

“The reality of this virus is only just unfolding before our very eyes. Please, please adhere to government guidelines. DO YOUR BIT. Protect yourselves and protect others!! The virus isn’t spreading, PEOPLE are spreading the virus,” the relative added.

The post went on to say: “Life as we know it has changed dramatically but unless we all act now to protect ourselves and others, the longer this turmoil and anguish will go on …”

The UK’s youngest victim is an 18-year-old with “significant underlying health issues” who died in Coventry, West Midlands after contracting COVID-19. But the virus was not said to be his direct cause of death, Metro UK reported Sunday.

The country currently has more than 8,300 confirmed coronavirus cases and 434 deaths related to the illness, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

Kill yourself, r226

If you recall, a couple of months ago, Trump was pissed off, as usual, about something to do with New York, and submitted legal documents to officially change his residency from New York to Florida. Whatever his vendetta is against New York State, this is not the time to play bully, not when so many lives are at risk.

WHET Rudy Giuliani?

Did he disappear along with the Trump family ?

She was prescient...

"Loss of smell and taste seems to be one of the signs you have coronavirus."

Loss of taste? No biggie, since we never had any to begin with

Lies! Fake news!

Can dogs and cats catch it ?

Anyone making judgements by the reported numbers -- DON'T. My partner was in the same store with a positive case and has been ill since (2 wks now), but he can't get tested. They are telling people too bad if they are sick, unless you are knocking at death's door (just call 911).

I have no doubt people are dying, but it's not being counted correctly. They can't report or track the spread if they won't test anyone. Tests are only given to people with special notes that are difficult to acquire. We're in NYS.

He has almost every symptom and crossed paths with a positive person, with his lungs getting worse. I'm immune compromised as well. Just spoke with the Health department and they fucking laughed at me; saying it's no big deal for 80% and "those are really good odds!" I was told tests results don't matter anyway.

This has become a fucking joke.

I think we have all agreed R245 that the numbers are not to be believed. Weeks ago New York City wasn't reporting any cases, which was highly unlikely.

I’m sorry, r245. You are in my thoughts. It hope you are both well in time. If it’s any help hold on to the fact each passing day suggests getting better, not worse.

The great thing about Cuomo is he’s absolutely put politics aside, except for nailing Trump. He seems indifferent to how she emerges from this personally and is just concentrating on doing the right thing the stuff he’s focusing on and accomplishing is just textbook how it should be done.

Russia’s President Vladimir Putin took no chances this week when he visited coronavirus patients in a Moscow hospital, sporting a full hazmat suit and breathing mask to protect himself from the bug.

The number of recorded coronavirus cases in Russia reached 658 on Wednesday, a day after the mayor of Moscow acknowledged that the actual tally is likely higher than the official count.

POLITICO: New York City’s morgues are nearly FULL and are expected to hit capacity NEXT WEEK.

City officials have briefed the Department of Homeland Security on the situation, sources say.

NYC (not the state) 17856 cases, 2952 new via cuomo's press conference right now.

[quote]Anyone else worried about coming up with money for rent? Lots of people on month to month leases in NY and DC.

Every renter in NYC should call for a rent strike. What are landlords going to do, evict everybody? With whose army?

Those scary letters from landlords are just landlords' efforts to try to make sure they get paid first before other creditors. Have they looked outside the window lately at the empty streets and avenues?

It’s a national and world emergency.

There might be a smart way to do this—make a good faith effort by paying a percentage of the monthly rent, I don’t know.

But any landlord thinking they are going to get all their renters to pay, as if this is business as usual, should be in for a rude awakening.

30811 tested positive in NY State.

3805 (12%) hospitalized

888 ICU patients (8% of positives)

via Cumo press conference

Chris Hayes:

Remember when the president announced to great fanfare (and a stock market rally) that soon we'd have up drive up testing in Wal Mart and Target? Where'd we end up on that?

The wealthy flee to Nantucket, a ‘medical desert,’ during coronavirus lockdown

Despite the area having just one hospital, two dozen beds and three ventilators, the super-rich are still fleeing to their summer palaces on the tiny isle of Nantucket, Mass. — which saw its first case of the COVID-19 infection on Sunday. Officials are now begging them to stay away during the coronavirus pandemic.

Nantucket is a “medical desert,” Nantucket Cottage Hospital CEO Gary Shaw told the Lily, noting a shortage of doctors and the fact that there are no intensive care units on the island. “I have 14 beds and three ventilators. It’s straight math . . . If anyone gets a hangnail, they get shipped off to Boston.”

The historic whaling town has just 17,000 year-round residents but each summer it sees its population balloon to some 50,000. And the island is already beginning to swell, with locals reporting long lines of private jets at the airport and BMWs and Mercedes with New York plates filling the streets.

A local property management company reported being asked to open roughly half the summer homes it manages.

In response, Shaw said he’s turned on the refrigerators at the island morgue.

“We are advising anyone traveling to the island, or anyone who has come here to shelter from other cities or towns, that Nantucket has limited medical resources and a surge of cases could quickly overwhelm our hospital,” the hospital said in a statement. “If you have a choice to be on Nantucket or not, we are requesting that you make the decision to stay off the island to avoid a potentially dire scenario for our community and our hospital.”

Fuck it! I gotta go for a 30 minute drive might as well get a bucket of KFC to go with it and eat my blues away.

There's a limerick wanting to be sprung from that, r255, but I'm not clever enough...

The wealthy fled to Nantucket Because they all thought, "Let's fuck it" We'll beat this disease By fleeing and SNEEZE! And now they're dead fish in a bucket

R247 thank you. Hoping the same thing for all of you here.

I agree with r252 -- if EVERYONE is going through this, there's not going to be extreme consequences with living arrangements. However, if half the population is pushing for business as usual, because money and the economy, it will screw over those with limited resources that can't take that health risk.

We're better off going through this all in.

Arrrgh formatting:

The wealthy fled to Nantucket

Because they all thought, "Let's fuck it"

We'll beat this disease By fleeing and SNEEZE!

And now they're dead fish in a bucket

Cuomo is now giving reasons why NY has more cases than other states, he mentioned California as a comparison saying that California has greater population than NY but Cali has less numbers of cases. Cuomo is not being 100% forthright here in his promotion of his state as deserving more or somehow more special. California has double the population of NY but the state has tested less than a third of suspected cases than NY state has done. California needs more testing kits than they are getting, so stop whining about getting more, kits and supplies. I guarantee you if you do testing in same numbers as NY then you will see the cases in California go up and even surpass NY. Cuomo is saying that NY is so special because it is a hub for foreigners and people of different nationalities and that New Yorkers are unique in accepting everyone from around the world. Well duh the same goes for California, I'd venture to say it's even more diverse than NY because we have more diverse industries and immigration has always been a part of the state, particularly Asian and Latino immigrants.

Reading subtext, Cuomo said bespoke directly to Jared kushner ,who Cuomo called ‘a New Yorker.’ I wonder if Cuomo warned Jared he’d want to move back to NYC some day and would be remembered for what did and didn’t do.

I've noticed the wealthier classes have been the super spreaders. They keep fleeing NYC and spreading it across the US. Go figure they are the ones getting all the tests, because apparently, only us peasants need to pay the consequences for their actions.

I really want to know how many are dying of this, but didn't get to a hospital in time.

[quote]Someone in another thread said Trump and his family are protected by a cure - what is that about?

It's not a cure - it is a type of vaccine. Essentially, blood / plasma from recovered patients contain antibodies to the virus. Healthy are injected with serum of the blood and it provides comprehensive protection. It is not really a vaccine b/c you need boosters every few weeks or months - depending on your immune system, the virus, the antibodies. It is extremely and almost impossible to obtain. It makes complete sense the President would be protected so he could deal with the emergency.

------------- A FEW NOTES THE LAND OF COVID-19

* Don't necessarily believe someone has COVID-19 unless they are in isolation and you have information they are ill. Word of this "serum" is spreading, so it makes sense that some people from that class would claim to have it. (Prince Charles, maybe)

* See who in Trump's or the GOP's inner circle announce they are ill. Those people are expendable or have displeased the Mango Emperor. (Romney, maybe)

* I believe that Trump sells access to the limited serum.

* I would not put it past Trump & Co. to use govt. resources to develop a delivery mechanism to infect enemies. However, there is no evidence so far.

Any realtors here? For those that have lock-down, except for essential services, how is that affecting buying and selling? Lenders are non essential just like title companies, realtors, inspectors and appraisers.

The Tweet at R235 reads like an other-dimensional Titania McGrath. What a clueless piece of shit.

I wish those that said they had they virus in these threads would let us know how you are doing. Once it was announced you disappeared.

NYC is way denser than any city in California. There are denser cities in NJ - metro NY - than California. CV loves density. When we talk about NY generally we are talking about NYC Metro. Upstate is actually very rural and sparsely populated. It's a big state.

I was waiting for the conspiracy nut to arrive R263

R263 A very pissed off Ivanka Trump.

FDA to allow plasma from coronavirus survivors to be used to treat critically ill patients

via thehill.com

844 863 9374, call that if you need mental help. you need to make appointment. This was just on NY1. Not sure if it's open to residents from other states...it's for NY.

DW News @dwnews · 6m JUST IN: German Chancellor Angela Merkel has tested negative for #coronavirus for a second time and will undergo another test at the beginning of next week, a government spokesman said.

can we make an appt. for Trump?

What's the situation in Boston like? Do they have a low number of infections?

[quote]German Chancellor Angela Merkel...will undergo another test at the beginning of next week

Greedy bitch!

60,000 US cases

Not a realtor r264 but my best friend is. He had three offers for houses he was representing back out, so that's probably a sign of things to come.

Thank you R278. I was watching a house I really like that was pending and looks like the deal fell through for whatever reason. I hope it is not a sign that lenders are tightening up.

"A 21-year-old woman has reportedly died of coronavirus in the UK – and is believed to be the youngest person in the country with “no underlying health conditions” to succumb to the bug."

No underlying health conditions she KNEW about.

They need to do exhaustive forensic autopsies on the dead to determine WHY they died while most got sniffles, fever and a scratchy throat.

Just saying "Here comes Corona and you could die" is not correct. As we've seen, healthy kids are almost untouched.

R270 lenders aren't tightening up, from what my friend told me, its the process that is making things impossible. All three of the prospective buyers backed out because the sales were contingent on their own homes selling, and with home showings and inspections "banned" right now, that's very difficult. So you don't need to worry about getting a mortgage per se, but you will have difficulty getting a showing and an inspection, the latter of which is required by banks to approve the mortgage.

Noo Yawkers... Housing Court is CLOSED. There is an official moratorium on pending evictions. Landlords can't bring new eviction actions because, once again, the Housing Courts in the five boroughs are CLOSED.

I know that is only one small part of the problem faced by renters, but take that and let it give you some small amount of comfort.

I'm an ex realtor R281. My original post @R264 mentions how the industry doesn't have essential workers. This is going to affect the real estate market and I'm just trying to figure out how much damage it will be. It wouldn't surprise me if lenders tighten up for obvious reasons.

Just talk to your colleagues about what happened in 1987 and the 10 years it took the market to recover.

R267 That is a given but for Cuomo to deliberately leave out the fact that California has done less than 1/3 of testing that NY has done, especially when he's comparing the 2 states, is a case of overstating his case. I don't blame him for trying to get his state more supplies and promote the state as being unique as a governor. I understand, he's playing politics and doing it quite well. However, since he's been promoted now as a national figure even a potential write-in candidate, then he deserves scrutiny when he spews bullshit as facts or omits facts altogether. He can't have it both ways, trying to hoard supplies for his state while being promoted as a national figure serving all Americans. Californians are being tested at rate that is less than the national average. For Cuomo to then make a direct comparison between Californian and New York in terms of confirmed cases is a fucking joke. He has performed admirably so far but in the past couple of days he has been playing loose with facts, starting with the "30,000 ventilators" needed in New York, a number that no expert will agree with because it has zero basis in projections or reality. He essentially wants to hoard all the available ventilators and supplies for his state. Again I don't blame him since he's looking out for his state but as someone who works and lives in California, I take issue with it.

Oh, come on, R285. It's only California.

They running fewer subway trains in the city and now it's getting packed again...surely this will just increase the spread...

The people using it are the essential workers! Nurses, cashiers, etc...

The listings dropped dramatically near me. But of the few houses that came on the market in the last 3 weeks, 80% are already contingent. It was shaping up to be a white hot market this spring - then listings stopped. I think the demand is still there waiting to be unleashed. White collar neighborhood with mostly doctors and teachers - so don’t see this demographic suffering.

Are you on lockdown R288?

Ben Bernanke, who chaired the fed through the financial crisis, said his view Is ‘While the country is in for a “sharp, short” recession,” he sees a “fairly quick rebound” ahead.’

R86 as far as Vitamin C, it’s an essential vitamin which is depleted under stress and sickness. Of course organizations funded by pharmaceutical companies are going to deny nutritional supplements as effective. Most disease & sickness on this earth could be solved if we effectively tested for nutritional deficiencies and people ate well. The problem is everyone wants to eat McDonalds, watch TV and have pharmaceuticals save them after the damage is done.

Excessive Vitamin C makes you fart. Just ask any of Matt Lauer's former co-anchors.

If this hasn't been posted before--this COVID-19 statistics site out of Johns Hopkins reports more cases than the CDC or World Health Organization stats pages. I don't know whether it's updated more frequently or it's more accurate but it's an interesting contrast.

BBC- Away from the UK, Italy has reported another 683 deaths in the past 24 hours and a further 5,210 cases. That is a slight fall from Tuesday's 743 deaths, but it brings to 7,503 the number of people who have died in Italy since the outbreak there began

R293: But John Hopkins is far behind worldometers

We are in PA - so non-essential businesses shut and shelter in place (county based). So no active sales including open houses. Everything is virtual.

Vitamin C is not a cure, and overdosing on it means you pee it out because it's a water soluble vitamin.

Green tea has been shown to be an antiviral in multiple studies, and it's not just against one virus but many different types. It's interesting too to see that in Japan and Korea where people do drink green tea regularly, the confirmed cases and deaths from COVID-19 are less than say, Italy. Both Japan and Korea have greater percentage of elderly population and many of the elderly live in extended family home. Anyways, Italians drink mainly coffee which as far as research shows, doesn't have the same antiviral effects as compounds in green tea. Something to consider. I've been drinking green tea, white tea, and matcha for about 20 years now, never have colds and only had the a mild case of the flu once. I'm linking a research article below but there are many other studies on green tea and preventative effects against multiple viruses.

R297, I agree. The second I feel a cold coming on...I put on green tea and I get better.

Green tea has many benefits...

Also taking vitamin C in megadoses can wreak havoc on your digestive system.

[quote]I put on green tea

Pics please.

Chef Floyd Cardoz dead at 59 from coronavirus complications

Floyd Cardoz, the man behind acclaimed NYC restaurants Tabla and Bombay Bread Bar, has reportedly died as a result of the coronavirus, according to Indian news site Scroll.in. The Mumbai-born chef was 59.

Cardoz was admitted to a New York hospital last week, according to a recent post on his Instagram account, following his return from a trip to India on March 8. He told his followers that a fever had prompted him to see a doctor. A statement on social media from his hospitality group, The Hunger Inc., confirmed the news of his hospitalization March 17.

The eclectic chef and Season 3 winner of “Top Chef Masters” made his name with the groundbreaking Tabla, opened in 1998, as one of the few Indian fine-dining establishments in the city. In partnerships with Danny Meyer and Union Square Hospitality Group, the restaurant enjoyed an instant buzz after receiving three stars in the New York Times. Tabla closed in 2010 but remains one of the city’s most groundbreaking restaurants to this day, known especially for its bread.

He also worked with Meyer in opening North End Grill, then went on to open several other eateries in India and New York. His Bombay Canteen as well as Goan-Portuguese fusion restaurant O Pedro remain popular in Mumbai today. Soho’s Paowalla, which was later transformed into Bombay Bread Bar, closed last year.

Cardoz’s friend and former business partner shared his sorrow today on Twitter.

“Love you so much @floydcardoz,” wrote Meyer.

What the fuck? I had to check to make sure this was for real:

@realDonaldTrump

This is really great news! I am so happy I can barely speak. He may have been a terrible presidential candidate and an even worse U.S. Senator, but he is a RINO, and I like him a lot!

@BreitbartNews

Mitt Romney Tests Negative for Coronavirus

A 66-year-old Navy veteran from Milwaukee died “alone” of the coronavirus — as his quarantined family was unable to see him, according to new reports.

Lawrence Riley — who served during the Vietnam War and was a retired firefighter who survived two strokes — appeared able to beat anything, his family told ABC News.

But he died Thursday, two days after he tested positive for the novel coronavirus.

“The way he handled pain, he was a tough guy,” his son, Elvaughn Riley, 28, told the outlet. “For this to take him out, it was a shock.”

Lawrence was feeling tired and drained over the weekend, and by Monday, he was bedridden, his son said.

By Tuesday, his family rushed him to the hospital, where he was placed in a medically induced coma and tested positive for COVID-19, according to the report.

His family did not have the opportunity to see him those last two days — as his wife and youngest son and daughter were required to quarantine inside their home, the outlet reported.

Elvaughn, who lives elsewhere, said he hasn’t been able to see the rest of his family and leaves food and supplies at their front door.

“Family can’t be there,” he told WISN-TV. “We can’t be there to hold their hands. We can’t be there to say things to him. That’s very lonely thinking my dad had to go through that.”

“I couldn’t even say nothing to my dad, you know, tell him I love him before he passed,” he added. “Now I have to live with that, so now I have to live with that for the rest of my life.”

Elvaughn told ABC that he was inspired by his father to join the Navy himself.

Whitney Riley, 20, Lawrence’s only daughter, described her father as the “sweetest man I’ve ever known.” She is grieving the fact that her father won’t be able to see her graduate from Prairie View A&M University next year.

She said she hopes others will take the COVID-19 outbreak more seriously after hearing her dad’s story.

“We need to do everything we can to protect one another,” she told ABC. “Just because someone the same age as me might not feel the symptoms doesn’t mean you can’t pass it along. It took my father just like that. I never thought in a million years my dad would be gone in five days.”

R#95 it's Johns Hopkins

China’s got some splainin’ to do. No way in hell only 3000 died and no way in hell it only became a widespread problem for them in January. Simply not possible.

R303, that is so sad. These stories are becoming so common.

I was at the dog groomers today. His husband works at one of the hospitals in my city. He said they just got test kits this week.

Too much Vitamin C upsets my stomach. I agree about the green tea and white tea.

Elderberry may help as well.

I just added some to my grocery order. Can’t hurt.

R305 China should be made to publicly apologize to the world community for its lack of transparency over this virus. I detest Trump to the utmost degree but on this point I can't believe I'm in absolute agreement with the fucker. The WHO came out recently and praised China for being transparent and many in the press now echoing China's PR that it's a savior to rest of the world, this is disgusting. WHO should lose all credibility in being a health organization when in fact it is a political one, the head of the WHO is a puppet propped up by the Chinese government. The WHO was first warned by Taiwan about the virus and China's lack of transparency in the (then) epidemic way earlier than China even admitted it had a new virus. Then WHO parroted China's reassurance that it wasn't human-human transmitted over the warnings of Taiwan. Taiwan which is kept out of the WHO due to objections from China could've saved the world from this pandemic if only fucking WHO heeded its warning and advice..

This has definitely shifted to a New York crisis in the last 24 hours. Most of the news coverage has shifted to NYC and California where the numbers are big. I would be scared as fuck to leave my house if I lived in NYC or LA.

I just came in after a grocery run. It is absolutely smoldering hot out there for a March day, even for Florida. The sun is just baking everything, the grass is wilted. In my non-scientific opinion, there is very little chance a airborne virus can survive in these conditions.

People are getting it even in countries located in the tropics

Louisiana is getting it bad. Mardi Gras coming home to roost.

R311 Well I guess I'm fucked because I'm working at the clinics now in SF Bay Area, and many of my patients come in with the typical cold and flu symptoms. Usually I prescribe ZPak if I suspect them to have the flu and not a cold, but now they all want to be tested. Three pediatric nurses and there may be more have tested positive at the children's hospital, so the tests should be allotted to healthcare providers first instead of anyone with minor cold symptoms. I've probably been in contact with patients or colleagues with the virus and we can't even be tested because we're not symptomatic or sick or have been in contact with confirmed cases. Could I lie about having symptoms in order to be tested? Sure. Do I think it's conducive to shortages of testing kits in California by doing so? No, so I'm not going to do it unless I become ill. Knock on wood I'm quite well and healthy. I'm taking my usual zinc supplements, vitamin D, lemon juice with hot water, green tea/ matcha.

We are starting to run out of supplies such as masks, we no longer have any N95 masks, and now we are told it's okay to use scarves and even socks if necessary. Why is it that New York gets all the test kits and supplies when their hospitalization numbers are going down? Why is it that California testing rate is under the national average? Why are Californian healthcare staff told to use scarves when necessary? I've had the past 2 days off and have been watching videos on how to sew face masks, I've got an old sewing machine in the closet gathering dust so I thought I might as well make use of it, now waiting for fabric and materials to arrive so I can sew my own fucking masks next week.

I think what's going to happen is the warmer weather here is going to attenuate the spread. Also from speaking to ID specialists, they're mostly in agreement that eventually we'll all get the virus and that next year we'll have a vaccine that would be pretty effective since the virus doesn't appear to be mutating quickly or into multiple strains that differ greatly from the original strain.

Guardian-Jérôme Salomon has announced the latest coronavirus figures. There are now 25,233 confirmed cases in France 1,331 deaths, of which 86% were people aged over 70 years. The death rate rose by 231 in 24 hours. These are hospital deaths only, not those in retirement homes or outside hospitals. There are currently 11,539 people in French hospitals with the coronavirus, 2,827 in intensive care.

[quote]Usually I prescribe ZPak if I suspect them to have the flu and not a cold

Why do you prescribe an antibiotic for a viral infection?

[quote]the warmer weather here is going to attenuate the spread

r314 the experts would disagree with you. They don't think it's going to follow the pattern of the other four coronaviruses.

There is a senior home in New Jersey where they believe all 94 patients have the coronavirus.

R316 typo, I meant the opposite obviously. Good catch though thanks.

Another article on green tea as preventative agent against infectious diseases.

Regarding the numbers in France

BBC-The French death toll is so far only counting those who have died in hospital. But French authorities say they will soon have figures for deaths in care homes, which could result in a large jump in the overall number of fatalities.

BBC-Postal delivery workers in the Republic of Ireland are to check on elderly and vulnerable people as part of their rounds. They will knock on doors to find out if people in those groups need food or medication, and make sure those requests are fulfilled, the Irish postal system An Post has confirmed. They will also deliver parcels and letters from the elderly and vulnerable - about 160,000 homes - for free.

I might add ZPak is great for strep throat and complications from bacterial colds not viral colds and flus, many patients have to be educated on that

Does Lysol deactivate viruses? It's a chemical mix, not alcohol.

ETOH of over 60% concentration will kill almost all infectious microorganisms including viruses. I told a friend to use strongest vodka he could find when all the rubbing alcohol was sold out in the stores.

The economic downturn and job losses caused by the pandemic is likely to be worse than the 2008 recession, according to World Trade Organization projections. Its director general, Roberto Azevedo, has said:

Recent projections predict an economic downturn and job losses that are worse than the global financial crisis a dozen years ago.

He added that concrete forecasts are not yet available but its in-house economists expect “a very sharp decline in trade”.

UK daily numbers not yet released. Fearing a big jump coinciding with the close of the UK markets in a few minutes.

Meant to write US markets

Ben Bernanke claims a deep recession and a quick snap back... I think that sounds optimistic

Tokyo will be locked down after a surge in coronavirus infections threatened a new explosion of the epidemic in a country that had seemed to have avoided the worst.

Bernake has some expertise, r328. Why do you think otherwise?

WH briefing at 5:00 PM.

Seattle's KUOW had a story a few last week about the real estate market continuing to remain hot, despite the coronavirus outbreak and social-distancing measures.

[bold]Seattle realtors ask: 'Can you see yourself being quarantined here?'[/bold]

NYT:

Fine Print of Stimulus Bill Contains Special Deals for Industries

UK numbers lower than yesterday but still in early days

A further 28 people have died in England, bringing the total number of confirmed deaths in the UK to 465. The UK’s Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) said 414 people in England have now died in England, while 22 have died in both Scotland and Wales and seven people have died in Northern Ireland.

NBC:

Man charged with terroristic threats for allegedly coughing on Wegmans worker

Washington Post:

Trump needs governors to reopen the economy. Even Republican ones aren’t on board.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🥞 MARCH 25. 5:30 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 463,418

DEATHS: 20,912

CRITICAL: 14,379

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 64,775

DEATHS: 910

CRITICAL: 1,411

[quote] Can dogs and cats catch it ?

The answer would appear to be no. (Though there may have been two dogs in Hong along with it.).

Steph Curry holding a corona virus q&a with Dr. Fauci.

A bit of good news in a very bad time: New York City's animal shelters are running out of animals.

Of all the shortages created by the coronavirus pandemic -- the toilet paper and the hand sanitizer and the bottled water -- the oddest of them all has to be dogs. Oh, and cats too.

That’s right, in the New York city area, the epicenter of the disease, there is suddenly a run on pets. At least of the adopted or fostered kind. Muddy Paws Rescue and Best Friends Animal Society are reporting shelters they work with are either all out of or almost out of cats and dogs after a surge in applications of as much as 10-fold in the past two weeks.

almost 18,000 cases in NYC (not the state, just the city)

almost 18,000 cases in NYC (not the state, just the city)

The shortage of safety gear at one Manhattan hospital is so dire that desperate nurses have resorted to wearing trash bags — and some blame the situation for the coronavirus death of a beloved colleague.

A stunning photo shared on social media shows three nurses at Mount Sinai West posing in a hallway while clad in large, black plastic bags fashioned into makeshift protective garb.

“NO MORE GOWNS IN THE WHOLE HOSPITAL,” the caption reads.

“NO MORE MASKS AND REUSING THE DISPOSABLE ONES…NURSES FIGURING IT OUT DURING COVID-19 CRISIS.”

Staffers at the hospital near Columbus Circle on Wednesday also tied the lack of basic supplies to the death of assistant nursing manager Kious Kelly, who tested positive for coronavirus about two weeks ago.

Kelly, 48, was admitted to Mount Sinai’s flagship hospital on Manhattan’s Upper East Side on March 17 and died Tuesday night, the workers said.

Another nurse said that “Kious didn’t deserve this,” adding, “The hospital should be held responsible. The hospital killed him.”

A third nurse described Kelly as “a brother to me.”

“He was willing to help others in need, especially in this coronavirus outbreak,” the nurse added.

At least four staffers who worked with Kelly have also tested positive for the coronavirus, and there are nine coronavirus patients being treated in the telemetry monitoring unit where he worked, sources said.

Mount Sinai West has about 40 coronavirus patients scattered throughout the building, sources said.

Mayor Bill de Blasio has repeatedly warned that city hospitals face critical shortages of everything from face masks to high-tech ventilators amid the coronavirus pandemic.

On Tuesday, The Post exclusively revealed that a temporary morgue was built outside the city-run Bellevue Hospital, with sources saying that more are planned elsewhere in preparation for a potential surge of victims of the deadly disease.

Fed briefing just started, I switched to PBS. I'm not watching the clown show any more.

I urge those who come here to spread rumors and propaganda to STFU and go back to 4chan. We are all suffering enough without having to stub our eyes on your ignorance.

A 65-year-old Georgia woman with no underlying health issues has died from the coronavirus after initially being turned away from the hospital, according to a report.

Rushia Johnson Stephens, a former DeKalb County music teacher, started feeling sick around March 2 but was sent home from the hospital, news station WAGA reported.

But over the next few weeks, her health continued to worsen and she collapsed Thursday at her home, the outlet reported.

“My brother-in-law called me, her husband, and said, ‘Hey we are going to rush her to the hospital because she just passed out,'” her brother Kenyatta Johnson told the outlet. “And I was like, ‘Oh my goodness.'”

He said that he was relieved his sister might finally receive the treatment she needed — but two hours later he received another, heartbreaking call.

“I received a call from her daughter saying, ‘My momma is dead,’ and it blew us away,” Johnson told the outlet.

He said that her autopsy confirmed that she had indeed contracted COVID-19.

r314, I have several costume designer friends who are making masks and mailing them....is there a way we can get some to you?

10-year-old British girl with coronavirus did not show usual symptoms, report says

A 10-year-old British girl tested positive for the coronavirus without showing most of the typical symptoms associated with the bug, according to a report.

The girl, who is from Plymouth, was initially suspected to have tonsilitis and complained of ulcers in her throat, Plymouth Live reported.

She also suffered from convulsions, red, blotchy skin and fever, as well as “severe” pain in her legs and body aches, the report said.

Symptoms that are more commonly associated with the virus include a dry cough and other upper respiratory issues, such as trouble breathing.

The girl’s school warned others about her confirmed case in a letter home to parents, according to the report.

“Please monitor your children and yourselves carefully for symptoms, stay at home and stay safe,” the letter said.

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R310 You morons who kept discrediting China and the WHO are the ones who need to apologize. Everyone had more than a month of warning and did nothing because of racist western media kept politicizing a damn virus. Remember WSJ's racist "Sickman of Asia" headline? Well, it's because of the sick media of the west making it seem like a "Chinese virus" that no one even bothered to test traveling back from Italy or Iran after separate outbreaks happened in those places. And we still have morons who think this is about some fictitious "bat soup". The virus is not smart. It's just a piece of RNA and some proteins, but Americans are proving dumber than a virus.

[italic] The Biggest Ever Ever!

The Hidden Enemy!

9.4 Million Respirators!

It's Amazing .... Face Shields! Gloves! Gowns! FacecMasks!

Calls From All Over The World!

R350 The entire world knows where the virus originated. The entire world knows China's responsibility in this.

The Chinese virus, originated in China.

Donald Trump has psychotic meltdown after stimulus bill excludes his failing real estate properties

The coronavirus stimulus package hasn’t quite been passed into law yet, but it’s been agreed upon in principle by all sides. The Democrats got much of what they wanted – including a provision that prohibits any stimulus money from going to any business that’s owned by Donald Trump or his family. Suffice it to say, Trump isn’t a happy camper right now.

Thus far today Donald Trump has used his Twitter account to attack Mitt Romney, Robert Mueller, Joe Biden, NPR, Adam Schiff, Michael Avenatti, and the New York Times. During his rampage, he retweeted white supremacist propaganda site Breitbart half a dozen times.

Donald Trump didn’t directly address the fact that none of the stimulus money is going into his own pocket, but he didn’t have to. His behavior today, which bordered on psychotic, gives away how upset he is. Considering that six out of Trump’s highest revenue generating properties are currently closed for business, and how deeply in debt his properties are to begin with, Trump has got to be on the verge of running out of cash on hand entirely. No wonder he’s going bonkers.

Uhhh, R340, the reason a high amount of dogs are being adopted In NYC is because they’ll be used as props to justify being able to get out of residences for walks in the weeks to come. After this ordeal is over they’ll be abandoned and taken back to animal shelters.

Trump in his currently ongoing press conference:

“You’re lucky that this group is here right now to deal with this problem or you wouldn’t even have a country left.”

Oh, bullshit, R355.

Deadline White House with Nicolle Wallace 3/25/20[FULL] | MSNBC News March 25, 2020

Trump: Washington’s biggest problem is in one nursing home.

I'm going to assume that people are adopting/fostering dogs and cats in such record numbers because they don't want to be home alone.

i just went out for a 90 minute walk. I haven't been out of my apartment for 8 days. It felt AMAZING! I went to a residential neighborhood, and walked around, took a detour by the reservoir and then up and back around. Saw maybe 15 people tops, no more than 2 at a time with the exception of three boys playing basketball. Didn't get close to any of them. I cannot tell you how much it lifted my spirits. If you've been potatoing it like I have, glued to this shitshow, please go out and get some safe sun.

Volunteer with rescue cat adoptions--it's true, this week, we had 1 cat left and the remaining cat condos empty. He was adopted the next day so he wasn't left behind for long.

Bracing for a record number of returnee cats in a few weeks/months.

R353, coronaviruses have existed in animals for a very long time; a few have evolved and become transmissible to humans. The first time a coronavirus transmitted itself to humans (and caused a pandemic) may have been in Belgium in 1890s. This is the way of viruses; they are always seeking new hosts, and they are hard to stop.

LOL!!!

I had to run in to work today to get bills to process. when I was waiting for the bus to return home I saw a very elderly couple and asked if they were getting on the bus and if they would like me to disinfect where they would sit.

the woman said no, they were just taking what may be one of their last walks together because they are in the most vulnerable category for the virus and their country thinks they are disposable. she said they're not ready to die.

nice times we live in. thanks people in charge for making elderly people feel disposable.

A reminder.....please wear gloves and/or sanitize hands after pumping gas

R366 Eww

What? My ass was itchy?

R340 those dogs and cats were delicious!

The idiot doesn’t even know that the Olympic games are held in years with even numbers. I’m satisfied knowing he’ll be denied the opportunity of attending one as a sitting president.

R347 That's so nice of you and your friends to do that, do they have a Facebook page or website? Seriously my colleagues and I would pay for them at this point. We are frankly exacerbated and trying to find humor at the same time. We've been passing around texts and photos of creative ways to make masks out of everyday materials like doggy training pad and disposable diapers. Reusing disposable masks is not okay and it puts healthcare providers at risk, people are going to see more providers getting infected. Even if we're not sick we have to self-quarantine and that contributes to staff shortages.

[quote]Uhhh, [R340], the reason a high amount of dogs are being adopted In NYC is because they’ll be used as props to justify being able to get out of residences for walks in the weeks to come.

Talk about elaborate scenarios.

Because Texas has 254 counties, perhaps rightly so Gov. Greg Abbott feels that "stay at home" decisions should be left to the counties to make. Loving County, on the New Mexico order, has a population of 134. I think they can sort things out. The largest counties have already issued stay at home orders: Harris (Houston), Dallas (Dallas), Tarrant (Ft. Worth), and Travis (Austin). The county I live in, Jefferson, has joined with 4 surrounding counties to decide what's best for the area, which hasn't been severe yet, even though all 5 have Covid19 cases. We have 7, the highest of all 5. It's apparent (being a Red state) that the majority is opting for open businesses, like Collin County, on the north side of Dallas County. And this is the way Texas will roll, large populated areas (Blue cities) will do their best to hold down the spread, where the lesser populated areas will never let the rodeos, or the bars, close.

I heard next week my state is probably going to close down everything except the essentials.

Brevard County Fl expected to close all beaches to everyone on friday.

r371 I'm checking out how you can contact them, in the meantime, are you part of the DL FB group? If not, join and post "SF Doctor/Nurse" there and I'll get a hold of you.

Statewide stay at home order for Colorado starts tomorrow morning at 6am. Governor asks PPG to declare Colorado a major disaster area.

There are a lot of people that have no desire to use FB R376. Set up a dummy email account for them to contact you. Once you communicate with one another delete the dummy email account.

Fauci sounded horrible on Cuomo tonight. Hopefully he's just losing his voice because he doing so much press.

r371, there is an FB page *yeah yeah I know* called "Hollywood Helps Hospitals" that you can join. However I have 3 separate costume people's emails that you can contact. I will set up a dummy email account for you to contact me so I can give you those emails.

We are adopting a rescue pup Saturday because we are home so much now

Fuck the WHO! They are saying many countries waited too long to act, should have done it last month, they took their own sweet time declaring it a pandemic!!! The nerve!

Okay r371, the email is m a s k h e l p @ hotmail.com

Looking forward to hearing from you!

The number of cases in the Big Apple also soared over the course of eight hours on Wednesday, from 17,856 to 20,011, City Hall said.

Queens recorded the most cases, as of 6 p.m., with at least 6,420. In Brooklyn, there are 5,232; Manhattan reported 3,616, The Bronx has 3,542 and in Staten Island, there are 1,166.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🥞 MARCH 25. 10:15 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 468,905

DEATHS: 21,200

CRITICAL: 14,379

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 66,048

DEATHS: 944

CRITICAL: 1,452

Oh btw r371, that email address shouldn't have any spaces- I didn't know if DL would reject it if it were properly typed in .

Ohio: 704 cases +140 since yesterday. 10 death +2, with 3 cases in my county.

Fauci is sounding a little rough?

One of the Trump boys probably tried to choke him because he didn't agree with Daddy Dearest's Easter relaunch.

We have five cases in my Pennsylvania county.

We've been on stay at home orders for the past several days, and all but essential service businesses are on lockdown. I really think this has helped to keep our stats low.

Or else we're just plan damned lucky.

r381, congratulations!

I have an idea for the next thread: Freakout 26: Orange Is the New Black Death.

R308 Do NOT take Elderberry during the coronavius pandemic. It fuels the cytokine storm!

The king of nuisance lawsuits is back to his old routine. The ad is quite mild really.

Could they use Amish bonnets for face masks?

Give those gals something to do. They all know how to see, and their work is meticulous.

^^^ .....know how to sew.

R314 NYC Hospitalization numbers are not going down! There aren't enough beds, respirators or masks. Our healthcare professionals have been tod told reuse masks or use scarves, just lie what you have been told. People are sewing masks for them. So, it's not just you!

Nyc hospital numbers aren’t going down but the rate is slowing down. Yesterday they expected it to double every two days, but that’s down to doubling every five days. Still horrible but a little bit of “good” news.

The President of Brazil does NOT believe the coronavirus is a real threat, so he's planning to do something about it.

[quote] There's been a furious reaction in Brazil after President Jair Bolsonaro demanded an end to lockdowns imposed in his country's biggest cities in an effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

[quote] Having played down the virus for days as "exaggerated," the president doubled down Wednesday, labeling governors and mayors who have imposed restrictions as "criminals" who are "destroying Brazil."

[quote] Bolsonaro also told the TV audience that the majority of people with the virus show no symptoms and that those at risk are over 60. Himself 65, the retired army captain declared he would have no reason to worry if he became infected because of his "history as an athlete." "I would feel nothing," Bolsonaro said. "For me, it would be at most just a little flu."

Moral: This is what you get when you elect big personality, little brain assholes as head of government. It's all funny and cute and edgy until the bodies start piling up in the makeshift morgue ice rink.

Dr. Fauci said today that we're going to get a second wave in the Fall coming from the southern hemisphere as they enter into their winter season. He said that unless we cut off all travel to this area of the world, it will make its way into the US again. Ugh!

We really have to come up with a vaccine, or effective treatments like now!

Bolsonaro sounds exactly like Trump.

Gonna learn the hard way !

R392, I understand that elderberry may be effective in prevention of a Coronavirus Infection, but should be discontinued if you have the infection.

[quote] Sambucus nigra (Elderberry): There is preclinical evidence that elderberry inhibits replication and viral attachment of Human coronavirus NL63 (HCoV-NL63) , different than COVID-19, but a member of the coronavirus family. Sambucus appears most effective in the prevention or early stage of corona virus infections. [bold] Of note, Sambucus significantly increases inflammatory cytokines, including IL-B124 so should be discontinued with symptoms of infection (or positive test). [/bold] An evidence-based systematic review of elderberry conducted by the Natural Standard Research Collaboration concluded that there is level B evidence to support the use of elderberry for influenza25 which may or may not be applicable to COVID-19 prevention. Typical dosing of 2:1 elderberry extract is 10mL -60mL daily for adults and 5mL-30mL daily for children.

Of course it's looking better. When the government officials deny testing and people are being sent away from hospitals, it looks very good on paper. They can just keep telling the sick there's nothing they can do and writing their deaths off as "pneumonia".

R392- is reinfection the reason why?

Is there consensus on relapse vs reinfection?

Why are health care workers so vulnerable besides the obvious working a lot and high stress?

What about echinacea?

[quote] Dr. Fauci said today that we're going to get a second wave in the Fall coming from the southern hemisphere

But isnt it Australia and Brazil already got it?

This is a great time to adopt a kitten or a puppy, especially if you live alone. We're on Stay @ Home, and I'd be lost without mine.

meow meow

R403 Health care workers are constantly exposed to something that they have no natural immunity to, no antibodies to fight this as it's new. That's causing their immune systems to collapse, really effecting the lungs then tertiary damage.

Hopefully that will change as antibody testing is now possible!

Here’s why liquor stores are considered “essential businesses:”

[quote]Harris County left liquor stores open for a sobering reason: to prevent a surge in alcohol withdrawal cases to hospitals when they are already at risk of being overwhelmed with #coronavirus patients.

in Houston, TX anyway.

If liquor stores closed down they’d be robbed of their entire stock in less than a day. Alcoholics will do anything for a drink. And yes the last thing hospitals need to deal with is a bunch of unhealthy addicts taking up valuable resources because they couldn’t take a swig from their Smirnoff bottle.

Our elderly neighbor needed water so we made a Costco run an hour before closing. I've never seen a Costco so empty. No line for the gas pump either. We are in Palm Springs.

If you adopt a dog, be sure to give it some alone time so that it doesn't get separation anxiety if life ever returns to normal.

In PA liquor stores closed and no riots. I’m shocked. We have actually handled this pretty well thanks to a Dem governor closing things down early before cases erupted - even before NYC for most counties around the city. We have stayed somewhat low relatively - fingers crossed.

The Rachel Maddow Show 3/25/20[NEW] | Rachel Maddow MSNBC News March 25, 2020

The shortage of safety gear at one Manhattan hospital is so dire that desperate nurses have resorted to wearing trash bags — and some blame the situation for the coronavirus death of a beloved colleague.

A stunning photo shared on social media shows three nurses at Mount Sinai West posing in a hallway while clad in large, black plastic trash bags fashioned into makeshift protective garb.

One of them is even holding the open box of 20 Hefty “Strong” 33-gallon garbage bags they used to cloak themselves.

“NO MORE GOWNS IN THE WHOLE HOSPITAL,” the caption reads.

Meanwhile, staffers at the hospital near Columbus Circle on Wednesday tied the lack of basic supplies there to the death of assistant nursing manager Kious Kelly, who tested positive for coronavirus about two weeks ago.

Kelly, 48, was admitted to Mount Sinai’s flagship hospital on the Upper East Side on March 17 and died Tuesday night, the workers said.

r412 Can you buy liquor in grocery stores there?

Walked past a CVS today in midtown and they had the virus test available. They are now running less buses and subways, I saw that the buses have more people on them.

Good one, R391.

[quote]Walked past a CVS today in midtown and they had the virus test available.

What does that mean?

They were advertising it in their window?

ooh McConnell getting testy with the press right now

"do you work here?" lol

turtle is snapping!

Mardi Gras comes back to bite New Orleans.

[quote]Health experts say it's no surprise that New Orleans is the center of the coronavirus crisis in hard-hit Louisiana after over a million people flocked to the city to celebrate Carnival for more than a month, culminating in Mardi Gras at the end of February.

The Four Seasons Hotel on 57th Street will provide FREE lodging to doctors, nurses & medical personnel currently working to respond to the #COVID19 pandemic.

OMG please watch this, it's only 2 minutes. Actor Michael Rappaport (remember him?) goes OFF on Trump.

Make sure you're cooking everything thoroughly, because they've cut back on routine food inspections amid coronavirus pandemic.

I wonder if its even safe to eat lettuces right now, especially after the mess with romaine lettuce last year?

Thank you, R422. That was fucking awesome.

Apparently Kathy Griffin has it. She is cursing Trump. She is in the hospital.

R418, not all CVS has the tests. They had them at that location, it was raining today and I didn't take too much notice but just saw that it was available there. I do not know if you have to meet criteria in order to take it or not...also heard it's available at City MD.

Did she say how she was infected? Would not be surprised if she got it for the publicity. She's so desperate.

I find Rappaport annoying but he said everything most of us wish we could say to Trump's face.

R423, yeah, I had ingredients to make a salad for dinner but opted to saute them for a quick pasta dish instead.

I'm planning to make a quinoa salad tomorrow but all the fresh vegetables I'll use can be washed with soap. I'm washing produce with a light soapy mix and then thoroughly rinsing.

The only thing Kathy has is a pathological need for attention. In that way, she and Trump are a lot alike.

R425 She claims to be in the ER with “UNBEARABLY PAINFUL symptoms” (in all caps.) As far as I know Covid-19 symptoms (fever, cough, shortness of breath) are not “UNBEARABLY PAINFUL.”

Kathy Griffin is UNBEARABLY INSUFFERABLE.

R431: IDK, extremely painful headaches and joint pain are associated with CV also. But yes, KG is unbearably insufferable!

Number of CV deaths in the most recent 24 hours (3/25) is 247, a 10% increase over the previous day (225.) That doesn’t match some of the more hysterical predictions we’ve been seeing. (Or maybe it’s still too early to tell.)

R415 In p'burgh PA a while back, you could only buy bottled liquor in package stores, which closed on Sundays. Therefore, the real alcoholics would know to lay in a supply to get themselves from Sat over to Monday.

No alcohol in grocery stores or drugstores like at Walgreens or CVS, in California.

Can we back up a minute here. Are you saying that CVS had a sign out advertising the Corona test?

Was it test to see if you have it or the antibody test?

Well?

Sen. John Thune (Republican) is sick and was flown home to South Dakota. Nothing yet about it being coronavirus, but you have to wonder.

[quote] not all CVS has the tests. They had them at that location, it was raining today and I didn't take too much notice but just saw that it was available there.

This makes no sense, R426. Not all the hospitals in NYC can administer the test to people who want it — never mind CVS in one location.

Let's not keep stressing about that abstract thing called the 'World Economy'.

Unless aliens have come along and taken a whole heap of the world's essential resources, what has really changed?

Things just get re-organised = less need for BS jobs, and more need for critical jobs that help get the essential resources to the people of the world.

Isn't it weird that Iran has no peak at all in terms of the number of daily death from Covid-19? The number has relatively stayed the same (~140/day) for more than 10 days.

I'm fine - I'm currently using a pumpkin in lieu of a face mask.

RT: Moscow bans all regular, charter flights starting March 27, except those repatriating Russians.

R425 Are we surprised?

Kathy is known to go around handling bloody decapitated heads, you know?

Interesting. Russia has been completely out of the conversation on this. Not that they would tell us if they have any cases.

It’s sad that the US has over 1,000 deaths and it’s just starting. People are freaking out, like a silent scream.

R439 Iran is lying

Close the liquor stores.

Let the alki's drink nail polish remover.

R443 Apparently, Russia's got help to spare and is sending aid to Italy.

[quote] The Russian Defense Ministry said four military planes carrying virologists, epidemiologists, medical equipment and supply of pharmaceuticals were expected to land at the Pratica di Mare Air Base some 30 kilometers southwest of the capital Rome.

When liquor stores in my Pennsylvania town closed, the shelves were bare except for a small quantity of boxed wine.

Nothing left to break in and steal!

264 members of New York City PD infected with The Corona.

I have no doubt that Russia has a lot of cases they either haven't tested yet or simply aren't admitting. They want to be seen as the new international power play now that Trump has vacated the US' role as everyone's big brother. It wouldn't shock me at all if Putin is diverting aid from his own Russian people to help the far right wing Italian government

meanwhile the rest of the world sees how badly Trump is fucking things up in the US so Putin wins AGAIN pathetic

So statistically speaking at least 211 of them will have no or minor symptoms.

🤕 Can't Pochantas send us a Medicine Man ?

Rwanda is shooting people who defy their lockdown. Not surprisingly, it was two 20-something men. The US should give it a try if these assholes can't figure out what stay the fuck home means.

Here in Norway young healthy people are in respirators. I'm scared now. I always thought I was "safe" as in if I get it I will live. But hearing this makes me terrified. I practice semi-isolation already. I go to work, we don't work from home where I am, but we keep our distance to each other and all meetings are cancelled. Other than work I stay at home. I only go grocery shopping once a week. I have mostly isolated myself due to others, elderly people and those with weak immune systems. But now I do it for both myself and those people.

[QUOTE] Rwanda is shooting people who defy their lockdown. Not surprisingly, it was two 20-something

Slightest excuse and they use violence there.

Michael Rappaport has won my heart. I declare him a Datalounge Fave our highest honor.

BIG jump in cases in Belgium. 1298 since yesterday. Nearly twice the amount from the previous day. Also, 42 additional deaths since yesterday

The latest data from Spain shows the death toll has risen by 655 in the last 24 hours, bringing the total to 4,089 - slightly lower than Wednesday's rise of 738. Confirmed cases rose to 56,188.

BBC-Madrid remains the worst affected area, with close to a third of cases. But Catalonia has also seen a steep rise, reporting 11,592 confirmed infections. Late last night Spain extended its national state of emergency until 12 April in a bid to halt the spread of the virus.

R453 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We care more for the weather updates.

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 26 8:00 AM EST

💜 NATIONAL PURPLE DAY .... EPILEPSY AWARENESS

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 487,452

DEATHS: 22,028

CRITICAL: 27,709

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 68,594

DEATHS: 1,036

CRITICAL: 1,455

Well, this is scary. Hospitals are considering blanket DNRs for COVID patients.

[quote]That doesn’t match some of the more hysterical predictions we’ve been seeing. (Or maybe it’s still too early to tell.)

when I see good news on the stat side of things I am grateful for the good fortune but personally I fear the worst thing that could happen to us is to start getting confident. This the the kind of thing you want to be Certain the tide has turned. Otherwise we fall into Trump’s trap, back to business and the second wave is May not November.

First time weekly a jobless claims: 3.2 million.

Just released.

I love Michael Rappaport...he shit talks like nobody else!

I don't get Fauci's claim about Brazil? They'll be in winter by June and can expect to be entering a more advanced flu and CV season before. We should definitely start banning Brazilians from coming to the US now!

I believe DL Icon is the highest honor, r455.

r453, the idea that a virus that DESTROYS LUNG TISSUE is perfectly safe as long as you're under 60 doesn't turn out to be so valid after all.

Lots of death in Italy, but not yet the death of hope.

[quote] Italy’s death toll rises above 7,000 — but the number of new cases declines for the 4th day in a row

[quote] 57,521 people are currently infected with COVID-19 in Italy, 3,491 more than Tuesday. The daily rise on Tuesday had been 3,612 while on Monday it had been 3,780 and on Sunday 3,957.

Politico:

Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook

"Sen. John Thune (Republican) is sick and was flown home to South Dakota."

Due to his gaunt appearance, we've long suspected his health was... 'fragile'.

AP:

US jobless claims soar to record 3.3 million as layoffs jump

Washington Post:

Senate passes $2 trillion bill to blunt coronavirus pandemic’s economic impact, as households and businesses gasp for relief

r449 the Russians have been saying openly that it's much worse than their numbers reflect for a while now.

Also -- I mean, really -- would people please just stop with the Russia meme. They're not trying to take over the world. You know who is? The Chinese. But it's uncomfortable to say so, isn't it? On account of them not being white.

All you stupid old Russia conspiracists need to grow up and start paying attention.

Supply chain experts see a new problem with toilet paper products, this time for the stores and producers:

[quote] Stuck rationing toilet paper because you didn’t stockpile during the coronavirus panic over the last few days? Don’t worry, according to supply chain experts.

[quote] “All the grocery stores are going to have pallets of toilet paper sitting in the aisles, and nobody is going to buy it, because who needs to buy toilet paper when you’ve got a year’s worth sitting in your garage?” Daniel Stanton, a supply chain expert and author of “Supply Chain Management for Dummies,” tells CNBC .

All you assholes ragging on Kathy Griffin are aware her mother died last week, right? She’s having a bad month, give her a fucking break.

Deaths In United States Linked To Coronavirus Surpass 1,000 | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Trump Campaign Threatens Legal Action Of Coronavirus Ad | Morning Joe | MSNBC

R473 Her mother was 90-something years old and had end-stage dementia. Her death was not a tragedy and Kathy wailing about it all over SM is just more attention-mongering.

Oh and did you know the Kardashians (ALL of them!) and Gabrielle Union all sent her flowers? Kathy wants EVERYONE to know this.

Billionaires Want People Back At Work, Even If It Kills Them

Nancy is on CNN now.

R475 That ad is FIRE. I can see why Trump’s little feelings are hurt.

The internet is about to be broken.

[quote]BBC will stop streaming shows in ultra high definition as part of efforts to reduce strain on the internet, the British public service broadcaster said Thursday.

[quote]“As a precautionary measure, we will no longer make programmes on BBC iPlayer available in Ultra High-Definition. We will keep the situation under review and are in contact with the relevant organisations to determine if and when further action might be required," a spokesperson told CNN. Other streaming services — like Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and YouTube — have also reduced the quality of their streams in Europe after requests by EU officials as part of measures to make sure everyone can get online during the coronavirus pandemic.

And many Unemployment offices too. They’re overloaded.

They should save the political ads for when this dies down and before the election. Now is not the time.

[quote] You know who is? The Chinese. But it's uncomfortable to say so, isn't it? On account of them not being white.

R471, all we hear on the news is about how China is trying to take over the world: stealing trade secrets, lending to poor countries to take over ports, leases of massive land holdings in Africa, Huawei, Xinjiang, etc.

What positive coverage have you heard about China lately, unrelated to the pandemic?

Russia is trying to fuck up the world order. That's worse than taking over the world - that's making chaos a permanent state of affairs.

I have a lot of respect for Nancy but what the fuck is she talking about today? This seems like some kind of babbling acceptance speech.

Where’s cuomo?

I have a lot of respect for Nancy but what the fuck is she talking about today? This seems like some kind of babbling acceptance speech.

Where’s cuomo?

[quote]They should save the political ads for when this dies down and before the election. Now is not the time.

What nonsense.

R484, her sentences are very long. That may be why you think she's babbling. Cuomo's sentences are choppy and easy to understand.

Mayor Bill de Blasio has picked one street to be converted to pedestrian-only corridors in Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx, for a pilot running from Friday, March 27, to Monday, March 30.

Each of the following streets will be closed to cars from 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. for the four-day test.

The closures in total make up roughly 1.6 miles of the city’s 6,000 miles of roads:

Manhattan: Park Avenue, between 28th Street and 34th Street

Brooklyn: Bushwick Avenue, between Johnson Avenue and Flushing Avenue

Queens: 34th Avenue, from 73rd Street to 80th Street

The Bronx: Grand Concourse, between East Burnside Avenue and 184th Street

Staten Island was not included in the original pilot, but a spokeswoman said more closures could be coming. De Blasio had previously pledged to close up to two streets per borough to give pedestrians more space during the state-ordered lockdown.

“Additional sites are being considered for this initial pilot and will be announced when details are finalized,” mayoral spokeswoman Jane Meyer said in an email. “These current locations will be re-evaluated for continued public access.”

Police will be stationed at the four streets to monitor the closures and ensure social distancing protocols are followed. Parked cars can remain in place during the closures, according to the mayor’s office.

Yeah, like I said I respect her a lot, but I wanted to punch her in the face during this ramble. CNN just cut here off for John king. So they either thought she was really bad and pointless or Cuomo is close.

Coronavirus in NY: Long Island infant becomes youngest in US to test positive

A 3-week-old infant from Long Island has been identified as the youngest coronavirus patient in the US, according to a report.

The baby is recovering at home after being treated for several days at NYU Winthrop Hospital in Mineola, Fox News reported.

The case is a stark reminder that the very young also are susceptible to the illness amid reports of patients in the US ranging in age from 7 months to teens, some of whom initially displayed cold and flu-like symptoms.

Last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that less than 1 percent of confirmed cases in the US have involved people age 19 or younger so far — and that no one in that group had died to date.

But on Tuesday, Los Angeles County health officials said a child had died of the coronavirus – the first apparent fatality of someone younger than 18 in the US.

Cuomo in about half an hour.

Crocs giving away free shoes to healthcare workers fighting coronavirus crisis

The “A Free Pair for Healthcare” campaign invites doctors, nurses and other hospital staffers to choose a free pair of Crocs Classic Clogs and Crocs At Work styles. The offer, available while supplies last, can be redeemed through their website.

“Over the past week, we have spoken to healthcare workers, their facilities and even their family and friends, and they have specifically asked for our shoes in an effort to provide ease on their feet, as well as ease of mind as they need the ability to easily clean up before they go home to their families,” said Crocs president and CEO Andrew Rees in a statement.

Rees added that the company is ready to ship up to 10,000 pairs of clogs per day to assist those on the frontlines of the pandemic.

“These workers have our deepest respect, and we are humbled to be able to answer their call and provide whatever we can to help during this unprecedented time,” said Rees.

Crocs is one of several fashion brands who have committed their resources to outfitting hospitals workers and clinicians with more personal protective equipment, such as face masks and gowns.

Meanwhile, manufacturers across the country are converting their operations to produce more supplies for treating victims of COVID-19 and coronavirus illness prevention.

Ford, General Motors and Tesla have said they will focus efforts on producing more ventilators for respiratory patients, while alcohol brands including Anheuser-Busch and many regional distilleries are putting sanitizer products back into hands and hospitals.

Actress Laura Bell Bundy tests positive for coronavirus

The Broadway star, 38, announced on Instagram that she has contracted the virus. She also told followers that she’ll be going on Instagram Live today to answer any questions about symptoms and how she’s looking after herself.

Bundy is a Broadway favorite who originated the roles of Amber Van Tussle in “Hairspray” and Elle Woods in “Legally Blonde.” She also had a recurring role on “How I Met Your Mother” and has released a country album.

The Kentucky-born performer shares 10-month-old son Huck, with husband, TV exec Thom Hinkle.

Yashar Ali 🐘 @yashar · 20m News: In an email sent to NBC employees, the CEO of NBC Universal, Jeff Shell, says he’s tested positive for the coronavirus.

Doctor Recommends Strict Measures To Curb Coronavirus In U.S. | Morning Joe | MSNBC

CNN @CNN · 11h Two different Boston hospitals tell CNN that they now each have more than 40 employees who have tested positive for the coronavirus

If Jeff Shell didn't come out publicly about his positive test I find it reprehensible someone would share that email R493.

Jeff Shell, NBCUniversal’s recently appointed CEO, has tested positive for the novel coronavirus, according to an email sent to staff. He said he had tested positive despite not showing symptoms and would self-quarantine at home. Last week, NBC News said a longtime staffer Larry Edgeworth had died after testing positive for the coronavirus. He was an audio technician for the network and had suffered from other health issues that led him to succumb to the illness, Chairman Andy Lack said in an email to staff.

Why did Laura Bell Bundy get a test? Is she in a risk group?

Why did Laura Bell Bundy get a test? Is she in a risk group?

These rich assholes get these tests so easily. He wasn't even showing symptoms. I began running a fever this morning and it would be nice to know what I am dealing with.

These rich assholes get these tests so easily. He wasn't even showing symptoms. I began running a fever this morning and it would be nice to know what I am dealing with.

North Korean authorities have “secretly” appealed for international help with coronavirus testing even as officials have publicly insisted there are no confirmed cases of the virus inside the country, the Financial Times reports. Citing a relevant document and several people familiar with the matter, the FT reports that officials in Pyongyang have privately pleaded with their international contacts to help ramp up testing in recent weeks.

“The government has testing kits for Covid-19 and they know how to use them, but [the number of kits are] not sufficient, hence, [officials are] requesting all organisations . . . to support them in this regard,” the FT quoted one source as saying. Another source said at least 590 people who returned to North Korea from overseas in January had been tested, and all had been negative. Experts say the country’s weak health-care system, food shortages, and international sanctions make it especially vulnerable to the pandemic.

lol

[quote]The sudden, enormous spike in layoffs has swamped the Illinois Department of Employment Security

Daddy Cuomo is back....

Hollywood Hub Chateau Marmont Fires Nearly Entire Workforce, Employees Report

WEST HOLLYWOOD (CBSLA) — West Hollywood hot spot Chateau Marmont has reportedly terminated nearly all staff amid coronavirus shutdowns.

According to Local 11, the labor union that represents Southern California hospitality workers, hotel management notified employees on March 19 that they were being terminated due to the effects of the coronavirus pandemic, effective the following day

The union reported that the hotel fired nearly its entire workforce.

Workers told the union they were not offered severance money or continuing health insurance coverage, nor were they told they would return when the crisis subsides.

“In the middle of this pandemic, I’m now unemployed and will soon lose health insurance for my entire family,” Walter Almendarez, one of the employees fired, told the union. “I’ve worked for the Chateau Marmont for nearly 23 years. It’s completely unjust for the hotel to fire me and my coworkers without anything to keep us on our feet.”

According to worker reports, on March 17, hotel management emailed hourly employees saying while they would temporarily not be scheduled for any hours, they were still active employees of the hotel and could continue to receive health insurance coverage by paying their share of the premium.

“It was incredibly devastating to have gone from full time, to temporarily losing my hours but still being eligible for health insurance, to terminated with no health insurance in the midst of a pandemic,” said former employee Michael Racanelli to the union. “It’s absolutely shameful to do this to employees who have given so much of their lives to make a profit for the owner of the hotel, who is already worth hundreds of millions of dollars.”

Chateau Marmont has long been associated with the fame and glamour of the many Hollywood stars who frequent the hotel.

I think they're actually sort of exploiting the rich here -- they pay exorbitant amounts for a test, and that money then funds free tests for others. So it may not be quite what it looks like, though the optics are terrible.

cuomo said some patients are on ventilators for 20-30 days...

cuomo said :

37258 tested positive

5327 hospitalized

1290 icu patients

1517 patients discharged

Seth Meyers:

Trump Wants to Reopen America as Coronavirus Pandemic Accelerates: A Closer Look

WTF!!!

USA. 73,670 (approx 1000 behind Italy]

That's just what they're testing.

The media is starting to acknowledge that the actual numbers are most likely a lot higher.

Where's the poster again who said we wouldn't pass China's *official* cases by Easter Sunday? Try this weekend.

of course we will pass China, China's numbers are as real as the easter bunny.

Anyone else glad they live in flyover country now? I live in a small town in Norway with few infected (so far at least). Oslo is hit hard by the pandemic, so are other big cities.

R515, hence the asterisks in my post. But a poster actually doubted if the US would pass 80K cases by Easter Sunday and it was so clearly obvious we will.

The news keeps posting footage of large cities - NYC, San Francisco, Los Angeles - with completely deserted streets. Where did all the homeless people go? Are cities quarantining them somewhere? I have heard of no such measure where I am.

The news keeps posting footage of large cities - NYC, San Francisco, Los Angeles - with completely deserted streets. Where did all the homeless people go? Are cities quarantining them somewhere? I have heard of no such measure where I am.

r512

That logarithmic scale for deaths looks bad.

The homeless are in the subway. Everything is closed so they can't go to starbucks or their usual places to "hang out".

R471 Russia is only trying to disrupt the world order..that's all

[QUOTE]Dr. Fauci said today that we're going to get a second wave in the Fall coming from the southern hemisphere as they enter into their winter season. He said that unless we cut off all travel to this area of the world, it will make its way into the US again. Ugh!

I'm just catching up on this thread, but in response to R399, please note that Fall in the Southern Hemisphere started last week (when Spring started here) and their winter begins in late June. That means we will likely be getting the second wave of this thing in July, August and September.

No need to stock up on sunblock!

Florida reports more than 2,000 coronavirus cases

From CNN's Tina Burnside

The Florida Department of Health has recorded 2,229 positive cases of novel coronavirus and 27 deaths as of Thursday.

That is a significant increase from Wednesday's report of 1,921 cases and 22 deaths.

Broward, Dade and Palm Beach counties make up the vast majority of cases in the state.

Is it possible for Cuomo to just break in to the White House, pull Donny fat ass out of bed, throw him out the door and lock it behind him?

New York has done 25% of all coronavirus testing in the US

About 25% of all coronavirus testing nationwide has been performed by New York state, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in a news conference Thursday.

"We're testing more than any state in the country," and more per capita when compared to China and South Korea, he said.

40,000 retired medical workers have volunteered to help New Yorkers

From CNN's Adrienne Vogt

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the number of volunteers during the coronavirus crisis has been “inspiring.”

Cuomo said 40,000 retired medical staff volunteered, with 12,000 more people in one day volunteering to help work at health care facilities.

There have also been 8,600 mental health professionals volunteering.

R523 that's why we should block travel from Brazil and any other irresponsible countries now!

r516, that's what all the Europeans in little country villages thought when the Black Death started. Wherever you are, follow the guidelines, keep 6 feet away from other people and wash your goddamned hands!

How are all of the celebs and NBC execs getting tested without major symptoms? Here in California if you are a healthcare provider and you exhibit minor symptoms of a cold, not more serious ones like fever/ SOB/ body aches, you're told to still report to work as long as you wear a mask. A mask that's likely disposable and not for reuse but are being reused anyways.

R519 Gavin Newsom is putting them up in hotels.

[quote]California is currently working to lease hotels and motels for homeless people during the crisis. If that works out, it could also mean purchasing the properties from owners, who may be under economic duress after the state emerges from its efforts to mitigate the spread of coronavirus. The state may do the same with apartment buildings.

Can you imagine how trashed those hotel rooms are going to be?

"The Four Seasons Hotel on 57th Street will provide FREE lodging to doctors, nurses & medical personnel currently working to respond to the #COVID19 pandemic."

If only Trump would do this with his hotels....

nothing posted for 4 hours. What is going on?

"Can you imagine how trashed those hotel rooms are going to be?"

Bedbug infestations and complete renovation of properties needed after this is over.

Also nice of the Four Seasons to let health care workers use their rooms. BUT a lot of them are probably already infected with COVID-19. Remember people saying they would never book a cruise on those ships that had all those infections? They probably also have to disinfect the whole hotel and renovate after this is over.

Gavin Newsom has been AWOL, he's not fighting for California to get the test kits and supplies that we need. Californians are getting tested at rates below national average. New York network execs can get tested even without serious symptoms while healthcare providers in California have to meet strict criteria in order to be tested. It's putting staff and patients in danger, but that's okay it's only happening in California. WTF, Gavin should be getting his mug out there like Cuomo is doing with his exaggerations. 30,000-40,000 ventilators you say NY needs, Gov. Cuomo? Where did you get that number from, out of your ass? BTW for those who don't know, Cuomo's dire numbers of beds and supplies needed for his state are based upon a trajectory of "do-nothing" scenario. Do-nothing meaning no stay-in-place or self-quarantine and such.

I just texted my friend who's an adult ICU nurse and she said she was told her minor cold symptoms would still allow her to be at work so long as she wears a mask during her shift. She was told by occupational health that she does not meet the criteria for testing because her symptoms are mild fever, nasal congestion, and headache. They advise her to report for work or if she wants to she can call in sick, but that would mean using her own sick time. If occupational health advises her to stay home then the UC healthcare system would have to pay her from the COVID-19 funds set aside by Janet Napolitano for this purpose. But even then it's clear they're really trying to dissuade staff from being allowed to use that fund as sick pay. I guess we'll never know (for now) if my friend is positive for COVID-19 because she doesn't meet the criteria as a California resident. Meanwhile every network exec idiot can get tested. It's time for a national guideline pertaining to testing criteria.

^^^ T and P

R537, I think he's negotiating with Korean biotech companies for tests. LA just purchased millions from Seegene in Korea (20,000 first week, 120,000 each week after that).

R536 I'm at the clinic having some time for myself before getting updates as I start my day seeing patients. What are you doing?

R538, hey, you can go online and get free crocs shoes (on their website), i posted the article earlier...

R535 Calm down. It's a hoax. You can join your President for Easter services.

Canada and US in discussions about placing American troops along border, Trudeau says

From CNN’s Paula Newton in Ottawa

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau confirmed that the US is requesting American troops be placed within 20 miles of the US-Canada border to help with border surveillance, especially at irregular crossings.

Trudeau indicated his government did not believe that was necessary at this time, but that talks were ongoing.

“Canada and the United States have the longest un-militarized border in the world and it is very much in both of our interests for it to remain that way. We have been in discussions with the United States on this,” Trudeau said during a news conference outside his Ottawa home where he remains in quarantine.

Employee at FEMA headquarters in DC tests positive for coronavirus

From CNN's Priscilla Alvarez

A federal employee working at the Federal Emergency Management Agency headquarters in Washington, DC, tested positive for Covid-19 ahead of a visit by Vice President Mike Pence and other members of his task force, according to a statement from the agency.

FEMA said the person who tested positive Tuesday did not "come within six feet of the Vice President or any other Task Force principal for any period of time."

The statement said the agency conducted contact tracing to determine the areas of the FEMA headquarters building and the National Response Coordination Center (NRCC) and compared it to the movements of task force principals in recent days.

"All areas visited by the Vice President and other Task Force members were disinfected prior to their visits," the statement said.

FEMA said it will clean to make sure the “potentially affected workspace meets federal health and safety standards.”

"Number of CV deaths in the most recent 24 hours (3/25) is 247, a 10% increase over the previous day (225.) That doesn’t match some of the more hysterical predictions we’ve been seeing. (Or maybe it’s still too early to tell.)"

The hysterical ones are the ones saying it's a hoax or that it's "contained"

So we turned down WHO test kits weeks ago and now negotiating to buy from S. Korea?

Hmmm...sounds ingenious.

The sex worker industry has gone bust. Even street walkers are getting fined for being outside. Nobody wants a hoe in times of plague.

R544, yup. Trump call President Moon yesterday to plead for assistance and test kits.

And Cheeto in the meantime calls the freeloaders b/c of the US military presence there.

Respected theatre/film/TV actor Mark Blum has died due to complications from coronavirus:

I wonder some religious leader like the son of Billy Graham is giving him religious advice and that is he the reason he picked Easter as the date we should go back to work and die

Yeah and his bragging that we’re testing SO MUCH MORE than South Korea is vile. He’s probably heard the stories about how South Korea was able to control the epidemic due to widespread EARLY testing, and that the US is trailing far, far behind. Still today people are unable to get tests.

He’s a wretched fucking liar.

Coronavirus Freakout 26: Orange is the New Black Death

Things that are smarter than the POTUS

Trader Joe’s Temporarily Closes Two NYC Stores After Staffers Test Positive for COVID-19

Another Trader Joe’s store has temporarily closed in New York City after a worker tested positive for the novel coronavirus — the latest closure in a series of East Coast shutdowns of the popular grocery chain’s locations.

The company’s Soho location at at 233 Spring Street, at Sixth Avenue, closed earlier this week, following closures in Plainview, New York; Millburn, New Jersey; and both the grocery and wine store located at Union Square.

The employee who tested positive for COVID-19 was last in the Soho store on Tuesday, March 17, according to a company spokesperson. It’s still up-in-the-air when the Soho Trader Joe’s will reopen, but standard protocol is to close at least three days for cleaning.

Other sanitation procedures include notifying the public and staffers, as well as counseling any staffers who may potentially be impacted on CDC-recommended self-monitoring protocols. If employees cannot work due to temporary store closures, they will continue to be paid for their scheduled shifts.

I wonder where Trump will go with this. War in the fall?

⏳CORONA TIME 💜 MARCH26 1:30 PM EST

🌎GLOBAL

CASES: 510,542

DEATHS:23,028

CRITICAL: 18,533

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 75,655

DEATHS: 1,100

CRITICAL: 2,096

I need some hard liquor.

None of that grocery store wine or beer.

I'm in the middle of a pandamonial crisis of epic proportions.

Rick Wiles says that God is spreading the coronavirus in synagogues because he is "dealing with those who oppose his son, Jesus Christ."

[quote]DEATHS: 1,100

Why is the death rate so low compared to the EU? Are the US numbers being covered up?

Forget Italy, Spain has over 4,000 deaths. France over 1,300. Taken all together, deaths in the EU are many, many times higher than the US.

(so far at least...)

Rick Wiles is probably passing off beet juice as the Blood of Christ, with the promise that a cup per day will remove that dreaded Corona forever from your life.

But you must believe. And you must place $1,000 in the collection basket.

US's death numbers are low because they are saving everyone. Also in NY, over 50 percent are young people, so they don't die so easily...

I meant to say over 50% hospitalized are young and middle aged. not the elderly.

or they won't die for another week or two yet.

This thread is pretty interesting. Lots of maps of when the authors assume each state will peak.

[quote]The new @IHME_UW COVID projects morbidity under the assumption that every state does social distancing by next week. They project 81,000 deaths over the next 4 months based, in part, on the strain on local health systems. They have some maps (1/5)

I'm sure the number of deaths is higher, but without adequate testing it would only be a presumption.

r553 oil play, yes some kind of engagement is fairly likely, now that fracked oil is no longer viable anywhere (that destroys most of the US output as well as Canada) and likely won't recover. Oil remains *the* key strategic asset and Venezuela has tons of it. That's what this is about -- regime change.

R563, I was thinking an election move. Like with Noriega, but more violent because Venezuela has a substantial military.

r511, I also spotted The Ascent of Man.

We recently had 7 deaths in Kentucky. Our governor believes it was started by a fucking spring breaker.

Everyone should boycott businesses that treat their employees like shit during this crisis.

for example Virgin Atlantic. asked employees to take unpaid leave for 8 weeks.

Conservative MP Richard Fuller laid into the billionaire for the eight weeks off work without salary that has been foisted on the entire Virgin Atlantic workforce this week. Fuller had done his homework too. In his speech today, he noted that Branson, thought to be worth $3.8bn, could earn £9.9m ($11.44m) from just 2% interest on his fortune; more than enough, he believes, to cover the wages of his employees. As reported in the Metro, the MP explained,

“…the owner, or partial owner of Virgin Airlines has suggested that they should take eight weeks of unpaid leave. And I decided to look and see how much would that cost.

“Well eight weeks at the £94 statutory sick pay would cost £754 per employee. There are 8,571 employees in Virgin Airlines.

“So, if all of them took eight weeks’ unpaid leave that would be a cost of £6.4 million. Sir Richard Branson’s net worth is 3.8 billion dollars. ‘If he’s able to get 2% interest on that money for eight weeks, he will earn the equivalent of £9.9 million.

“So I say, Sir Richard Branson, give up your interest on your wealth for eight weeks and pay your employees yourself their unpaid leave. ‘Big or small – in a small village, a leader of a church or a leader of a large business – when it comes to looking at the protection of your workers, the time is now, and we will judge you all by your actions.”

[quote]that's why we should block travel from Brazil and any other [bold]irresponsible countries[/bold] now!

Oh, in that case, the US should "block" itself, huh?

Guardian-The number of people who have died from coronavirus in UK hospitals has risen by 115 in a single day to 578, as of 5pm on Thursday. It is the biggest daily rise in deaths across the country since the outbreak began. As of 9am on Thursday, 11,658 out of 104,866 people who have been tested for the virus were confirmed as positive cases.

R529 I'm following all the guidelines and I have for weeks. Nothing has changed as far as my self isolation goes. I'm just pointing out that so far we haven't been hit as hard as other places in Norway. Maybe it's luck though, who knows. I mean it will probably get worse here too as the number of infected nationwide keeps rising every day. So far though it's not as bad as for example Oslo.

AP:

Trump say feds developing new guidelines for virus risk

R516 / R570: Give it time.

Yeah ... let's all go to church on Easter!

Today's numbers from Italy worse than initially reported

Guardian-Italy’s northern Piedmont region said on Thursday that 50 people had died there from coronavirus in the last 24 hours, numbers which were omitted from the national tally released by the Civil Protection Agency because they arrived too late. The omission means that daily deaths amounted to 712 on Thursday rather than the 662 officially reported, and marked an increase from the 683 registered the previous day. Total deaths since the start of the outbreak are therefore 8,215, rather than the 8,165 reported.

Big increase in numbers of deaths in France compared to yesterday's report

Guardian-The number of deaths from coronavirus in France has risen by 365 in 24 hours, from 1,331 to 1,696, according to health officials. Jérome Salomon, director general of the French health service, said on Thursday there are now 29,155 confirmed cases in the country. A 16-year-old in the Ile de France region is one of those to have died.

[quote]Yeah ... let's all go to church on Easter!

I was born a snake-handler, and I'll die a snake-handler.

Surely the new guidelines will be stricter.

Did anyone else notice there was a huge influx of nay-sayers/deniers all at the same time yesterday? Then they got quiet for many hours. But there seemed to be several of them all at once attacking everyone here.

Sock-puppeting?

R578, block Boris.

Dog doing yoga in Italian

Sure, Jan..

Country Struggles To Catch Up As It Reaches Grim Milestone | Morning Joe | MSNBC

People who test negative, often test positive when their stool is tested. The small but growing body of clinical evidence indicates the digestive system may serve as an alternative route of SARS-CoV-2 infection in addition to the respiratory tract, they stressed, adding that clinicians should be careful to promptly identify the patients with initial gastrointestinal symptoms.

Warning to you nothing burger posters. The sky IS falling. Hoards of people will die in the US unless major changes occur. Perhaps it is already too late! THIS sunami is heading our way whether we like it or not! Prepare yourselves! Peace.

Tsunami! Spell check!!

R584 ^^HORDES

This ad is amazing.

Spell check!!!

Where's the NuThread??????

We're fucked. China closed down Wuhan at *400* cases. Cases, not deaths. We're over 1,000 deaths today and half the country hasn't even closed down yet. And even for the states who have gone to shelter, we are nowhere as strict as they were in Wuhan. So other than the fact large patches of the country may well be saved somewhat by distance, why will the virus spare Americans?

R590. We are fucked indeed

I'd like to know if American doctors and nurses are just that much better than European ones, or if there is there something they are doing, treatment-wise, that is more effective in treating patients with the virus. Because the US death rate is incredibly low for the number of infected people. I realize that would change as hospitals become overrun with patients, but so far they are doing everything right.

PSA about cleaning groceries after you buy them. Leave them in your car for 3 days, and clean the ones you need right away.

The real content starts a 2:35

I went to the post office today and saw a sign that read - PLACE YOUR PACKAGE ON THE COUNTER AND STEP BACK SIX FEET.

R593: Same applies to mail

I'm only going to check mail on Monday mornings. That will mean anything delivered will have sat there from 7 to 1 1/2 days since there is no delivery on Sundays. Most of my mail is junk anywhere.

[quote]I'd like to know if American doctors and nurses are just that much better than European ones, or if there is there something they are doing, treatment-wise, that is more effective in treating patients with the virus. Because the US death rate is incredibly low for the number of infected people. I realize that would change as hospitals become overrun with patients, but so far they are doing everything right.

Wait until we get swamped and start having to make choices. The tide is still rising.

I juts went shopping and started to do Clorox wiping. It seems like a hopeless task. What if the section of package I missed is the one with the germs? The bag, the plastic, the outside of the banana, the crease in the bag. I just gave up after 20 minutes.

There is going to be a large surge in mental illness soon. It's already underway.

R599 Trump is the leader of the pack.

R592 The worst hasn’t hit here yet. We’re a couple of weeks behind Europe just like they were a few weeks behind China. Italy and Spain are our future.

We are fucked, but no way did China shut down Wuhan at 400 cases. Or 400 deaths. Or 4000 deaths. We probably will never truly know the number of people who died over there because the CCP is not known for transparency and there is a reason why the WHO was blocked from entering.

For that matter, this has probably been in the U.S. for longer than we know. How many elderly or compromised people died this winter and it was just chalked up to standard pneumonia or old age? Apparently elderly people progress very quickly without intervention. Do you think coroners or ME's looked very closely at over-80 deaths?

R598 for bananas and like produce, I wash them the same way I wash my hands. I reuse a dish soap bottle with just a bit of soap in it so there isn't much lather, but very slippery water. Squirt on produce, rub and rinse well. For things like greens, I'm cooking them and washing my hands after handling.

Link to new thread?

yes, I had to go to the US post office yesterday and they are now only open til 4pm. They stand far away when you approach. They were all wearing masks. I stood far from the counter after putting my mail on the weighing machine etc. they stepped away when I had to approach to touch the screen keypad. I was wearing gloves of course.